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Open Thread #503

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Hi everyone, I just started Kill me heal me and in just 2 episodes I am so hooked lol and the fact that I have all of the episodes and I don’t have to experience the torture of waiting weekly(looking at you Circle, Fight my way and suspicious partner)makes me feel so good. I have only seen Shin Se Gi and he is so awesome and he just became Perry Park in episode 2 lol I can't wait to see all of the personalities.
I always get jealous when someone starts watching a drama that I was super hooked with but I am done watching, so on a scale of 1-10 how jealous of me are you kill me heal me fans????I haven't felt this feeling of marathoning a drama in a long time, Thanks kill me heal me for curing my slump.

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A great series -I'd argue that Shin Se Gi's guyliner was the 11th personality. Have tissues close by, you'll need then. The OST is superb. Enjoy

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lol??? at the Shin Se Gi's guyliner,the OST really is great and tissues?!?i didnt sign up for that??

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Don't worry, tears will be of the sentimental kind, rather than the unbearable-painnnn kind :-)

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Dayamn, your comment triggered a desire to listen to the OST, and I foolishly watched the video clips... and now it is a foregone conclusion that I will re-watch the entire series... and I have a sermon to write... and all I can think of is Ann Yo Na's "oppa" scenes.

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???????am sorry for mentioning the drama and happy rewatching lol

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Ji Sung does an AMAZING job in that show. Amazing.

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indeed Ji Sung is great as always ..the way he transforms from one of his personalities to another is so good.

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I still keep the most cutest name for sibling from KMHM

Oh Ri Jin and Oh Ra On

They feels and looks like Rijin and RaOn

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Kill Me, Heal Me was a great drama! Ji Sung did a fabulous job. ..... All the personalities were interesting and some of them were a real hoot. You'll see!

Glad you're enjoying it!

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Good luck for marathoning! Ji Sung was the best thing in KMHM and he really deserved that Daesang award, he earned it.

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On a scale of 1 to 10? Probably 11. I LOVE Kill me Heal me ❤ and Ji Sung.

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hahahah....am enjoying it so much.

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I recently finished Hyde, Jekyll and Me and I have to say I appreciate KMHM even more now lol. Have fun binge-watching, see you tomorrow after you've had no sleep and have finished the whole thing haha! ;)

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I was planning to watch Hyde,Jekyll and me after this because am so hooked with the multiple personalities concept but i guess i will have to pass.

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It's so awful. I even had to read a couple of recaps instead of watching the eps in order to even be able to finish, because by the end it had just become so awful that I couldn't sit through it. The ending was seriously messed up.

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Enjoy the show! it was one of the best I have ever watched. Perry Park is so funny. you can not do anything just love him!

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KMHM is one of my top 10 dramas. I absolutely love it and Ji Sung absolutely kills it (harhar) in the roll.

Even my brother (who is straight) had a crush on Shin Se Gi.

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Can we blame your brother? of course we can't ?

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I've been thinking about this one a lot recently. It's one of my favorites. So funny and sweet and it had one of the best twists I've ever seen in a show, kdrama or otherwise. I'm so jealous you get to watch it for the first time!

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i cant wait for the twist,thank you for telling me that.

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KMHM and Ji Sung is amazing. You will love all his personalities! I love JiSung in this drama. Enjoy watching!

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thank you and yeah i am enjoying it so much.

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I love the excellent cast in this show. If I have twinges of jealousy over someone watching a fav drama of mine, I just marathon it again - happens all the time. Needless to say, I don't get much sleep. Marathoning really is the cure for drama slump and is so satisfying to watch as many eps as you want and can fit in (usually in my pjs eating dry cereal out of the box). Enjoy!

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Well Well are you in for a treat or what? lemme assure you that the last 2 eps will make you look like a DID patient. BTW don't feel guilty if you fall in love with Shin Se Gi.

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too late lol i am already in love with him,he is just so awesome.

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I'm not jealous at all! On the contrary, when I marathon a drama that has finished airing for a long time, I'm always super jealous of the people who watched it live and could squee together in the recaps! Like right now, I just finished Signal but I can only read the comments.

KMHM was so good, it's on my re-watch list!

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Live watching is like torture sometimes and i am actually glad i also didnt watch signal live because waiting for episodes would have been so hard.

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Heeeeey beanies! It's been a month since I last visited this site (and watched dramas!). I'm so out of touch I can't even believe it... I spent the last month in Japan, and since our apartment had limited internet, all drama related activities were put on hold in favor of work and keeping in touch with family.
Now I'm in Taipei... and after Japan I feel like I can finally breathe again. Everyone's so chill, happy, energetic, people aren't shy to say hello on the street, I'm enjoying the controlled chaos that I've been missing after Korea.
Anyway, since I can once again watch anything I want... what should I watch, beanies? I'm currently catching up on Perfect Match (Taiwanese) and... that's it! What is the bestest of the best of recent dramas?

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Welcome back to drama watching!

If it's the currently airing dramas, I would recommend Seven Day Queen for saeguk, Circle for sci-fi/thriller and Lookout for crime/thriller.

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Thanks for the suggestions! I finally feel excited about dramas again!

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@mjusikurd @capt_blackdog , I was going through quite a slump myself, but I have just been saved by Chicago Typewriter; it feels great to have a drama to look forward to every evening, rather than one you are just in the middle of... :-)

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I actually watched ep 1 of Typewriter while still in Korea... but then Japan happened and I kinda left it hanging. Might try catching up. Thanks!

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Like you I am so out of sync with the current airing ones. So exciting to hear what suggestions people give you ;)

a month in Japan sounds so fun though! I was there only for a week a couple of years back but so want to go back. Missing both being there and being in China

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Japan was fun, especially Kansai area. Such fun people! And the nature... OMG!

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Yeah I spent a week in Kyoto with a Japanese friend and it was so nice and beautiful. So wanting to g back and see all the things I missed.

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Welcome back to dramaland!

Lots of dramas to choose from right now, such as the ones mentioned here and they all seem pretty good! Enjoy!

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Thanks! I'm already writing up a list. So fun!

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I love love love Taiwan. Have much fun!!!

For currently airing ones- Circle is awesome, and I've only heard good things about 7 Day Queen which I'm going to start this weekend.

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Thanks! So far Taiwan is awesome! 7 Day Queen is also on my list now, since many have mentioned it.

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I am completely enthralled by Seven Day Queen so far. In addition, Suspicious Partner and Circle are the other two I make sue I can watch without interruptions and anticipate the most each week.

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Thanks for the suggestions! 7 Day Queen gets mentioned a lot! I'm intruiged!

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It's pretty underrated right now, so a lot of us are reppin' it pretty hard! It really deserves more attention. The 4th and most recent episode was fantastic and now I'm desperate for more!

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For recent-ish (finished) dramas, I would recommend Tunnel and Chicago Typewriter. For currently airing dramas, I really like 7 Day Queen, Suspicious Partner, and Circle. There are also some good rom coms like Fight My Way.

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Those 3 are definitely my current crack of the bunch, followed closely by FMW. The Best Hit and Lookout are also pretty enjoyable so far.

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There are a lot of great shows. Not sure what you have seen but my current crack dramas are Seven Day Queen, Circle and Fight My Way. ManxMan is also good.

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I vote for Mystery Queen, which is finished, so you can binge it. :)

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Okay, so the only excuse for missing kdramas is traveling - to Japan and Taipei no less. You lucky blackdog, you. controlled chaos - the best of both worlds! Try Man to Man, I'm liking it.

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Hey! I'm curious, did you watch any Japanese Dramas/movies whike in Japan?

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So you are watching The Perfect Match. Chris Wu and Ivy Shao pair works pretty well.
Why not try Love, Timeless - another ongoing Taiwanese Drama and Boku, Unmei no Hito Desu Japanese romance drama.

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I thought your username was captain backlog for a second. Appropriate. Suspicious Partner is the best right now. It's great. Have you seen strong woman? Has it been a month yet? That too if you haven't.

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See you in a week goinh to Germany anyone in Bremen or Magdeburg?

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Have a great trip! See you in a week!

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have a greay trip!

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Oops I meant Dresden not Bremen. On ship now. Terrible beat

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have A LOT of fun, superfox!

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I just watched the newest teaser of Ha Baek's Bride. Been a fan of the manhwa, it's just the last teaser give me a little bit of Goblin Feeling. With the superpower God (but in Ha Baek's case, he only can control Water) that will be showing off his skills to his lady.

But I'm still eager to watch the remake and how the writer going to go with the story. Since it's a total remake to bring it to the modern era. But hey! From the teaser we also know that they will have a scene in the old era too?

And Nam Joo-Hyuk's voice.. dear your deep voice is just, sweet to my ears!

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Heol. Me too. Gave me Goblin feels too but more youthful? Must be the bright colors.

I don't read the manhwa (lovely costumes thoughhhhh) but I trust the Misaeng writer to do her thing. Woooot woot!

All I'm hoping for is for NJH's acting to be as good as it was when he played Joon-hyung. And I agree, his voice is <3 ! Love love love his voice color.

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I will dedicate my (sorry) long rant for u.

TOP news is frustrating & cut me deep in many levels.
They reach an amazing unbeatable history in kpop history, bigbang is super A A A lister name, Sunbaes you want to please in this industry, they reach that kind of level already tbh, for a 10 years hard ass working. They made bigbang & vip a living legend for the only 2nd kpop generation that still stick together & very very respected in this industry nowadays. Seriously, damn it.

Sorry for my stupid rant as VIP, but I wear Lies, Tonight, & Knock Out right on my sleeves. They're all my jams with all my gfriend back in college, we're dancing screaming jumping & crying over their music video on MTV. 2011 when MTV is playing, yeah. Is none of vevo business back then :(

Our fashion master degree was a trainwrack of torture. Tons of fashshow are killing us slowly & BB's songs are our only escape. I hope this time, us as VIP, are gonna be the ones that save u TOP, save BB, we are faithfully support BB, no matter how long & how tired the journey for u to get back to the stage again

I know maybe I sound ridiculous but I downright know how directioner & belieber feel back in those days.

In happy page, 2D1N keeps me entertain as long as I know. haha.
I watch friendship trip with MGY & PBY as guest, and they're surprising me especially with MGY strong will & competition blood. And she aint aging! how can MGY looks same age with PBY & Girl's Day Minah.

Recommendation me for :
Defendant, suspicious partner, SWDBS, Rebel or anything?
I am in slump again after Tunnel is over and Ruler makes me stop at eps 2 , shet.

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Yeah the TOP news was a shock. Both the initial scandal and the hospitalisation. Hope he will recover.

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yes, i read in fancafe he is in awake now, but still clueless about the brain damage issue since his brain are in short supply of the oxygen for long time

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At least he is awake. That is a good thing.

While I don't condone the use of illegal substances, weed being a part of that, I still don't think that TOP deserved all the hate that came his way leading to the current situation.
Bigbang has a lot of songs that are meaningful for me. And I just hope he pulls through and that all can come to a fair and peceful settlement.

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I don't really listen to Big Bang, but it's just so sad to see yet another artist succumb to the pressure of stardom and I was really shocked to hear about the hospitalization. He obviously shouldn't have been doing something illegal, but instead of getting down on him for it, people should've been worried at what it might indicate regarding his mental state, since he's even got a diagnosis. He shouldn't be exempted from the law, obviously, but I wish the general public would show more mercy when celebrities turn out not to be the perfect, saintly beings they want them to be. Obviously no human being will ever be perfect, it's crazy to demand it from someone just because they're in the spotlight.

My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family and I hope they make sure to get him the help he needs. And that no one will figure out where he's staying now, so that he can rest comfortably.

Sidenote: I was thinking how it's weird that so many YG artists seem to be suffering from mental health issues, but then I realized that it's probably just because YG doesn't stop them from going public with it. I'm pretty sure lots of idols suffer depressions and anxiety, with all that pressure and all the malicious online comments, but most agencies probably won't let them speak up about it.

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I totally agree - the whole situation is so sad, and I found the whole witch hunt against him a bit bizarre. I saw today where he was being released to another hospital (and luckily they don't seem to be telling the press). The pics and videos of him being wheeled out were heartbreaking, he looked so sad and pitiful and the reporters were hounding him almost to the point of assaulting him.

Some of this is probably me being from a different culture (and a country where weed is legal in some areas), but the public reaction seems a bit extreme. He smoked months ago in his home. Meanwhile, binge drinking is seen as ok - not to mention there are other celebrities who have done/been accused of FAR worse things that endangered or hurt other people (or were just slimy), and they aren't getting nearly the backlash.

I hope that he is able to recover, quietly finish his military service, and rest away from the crazy public and their pitchforks.

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I think part of it is the level of fame, since they're even internationally well-known. The more successful people are, the more the media etc will revel in taking them down.

Marijuana addiction is a very real thing and it definitely doesn't look pretty, so I get why it's not legal in Korea, especially since it's not uncommon for it to lead to use of heavier drugs as well as there actually being a lot of hippies from the 60s/70s who ONLY smoked weed and yet still feel the after-effects to this day, despite it being many years since they quit. But yes, the level of backlash seems really out of proportion. If he'd been smoking it WHILE on duty after enlisting, it would make a little bit more sense (especially if I'm correct and it was police he worked at since police workers breaking the law seems extra bad), but this is just ridiculous. He clearly isn't okay, which is most likely the reason why he smoked it in the first place and hounding him like this is just really dangerous and irresponsible :(

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From my exp watching korean news & been there, drugs in all forms is biggest crime in South Korea. Apparently, there is "no status limitation" for drug case. Yup. Crazy right? Even serial killer in SK has their status limitation year.

Second big crime is gambling. Fortunately, some artist caught in this case can make it through like Kim Jun Ho (2D1N)

Rape (or any sexual assault) are not that big deal in SK in the other hand. Funny yea?
Tony Ahn (HOT), Park Shi Hoo, Young Wook (Roora) are involved in sexual case related, do u see them now? Yes. Exception for KimHyunJoong perhaps.

Kangin SJ (DUI) , Ga In BEG (bullying), Kang Ho Dong (Tax evasion), Song Hye Gyo (tax evasion), and all slave exploited contract for kpop member's cases like EXO-M versus SM, are actually a big crime in different country that could turn media upside down, but in SK, people will forget it in second after the blown up.

like this body shaming :
http://www.koreaboo.com/news/chloe-moretz-attacks-korean-production-company-for-body-shaming-girls/

in South Korea, body shaming is ain't a shame act, they dont even realise it is a shaming until Chloe Moretz points it out! Lol.
Is a big deal in USA & Europe for that!

So perhaps, thats their cake to take as korean citizen. :(

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There's no status of limitation for drug use? That seems rather harsh. So if you were an addict but now clean, you could still be punished despite it being like a decade ago? Wow O.O

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Top. Bummer. So sad, pulling for him.
Defendant, Suspicious Partner - both good.

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Open Thread, week 18. Reality hit hard this week, coming back to work, but because I am inherently lazy, I only saw patients three days this week. However, because I’m also embedded with a Type A personality, drama-watching took a back seat to chart completions; however, I did manage to see both recent episodes of Circle last PM. I actually saw the 15 minutes of Circle a couple nights ago, but because the streaming site I was using was buffering every 2 seconds, frustration with interrupting the seamless acting that is Yoo Jin-Goo made me delay that gratification for another night. I read the episode 5 recap in the meantime, which is the original reason I love Dramabeans so much—amazing recaps!

Can I just gush a little about Circle, namely Yoo Jin-Goo? This show just solidifies to me that I will likely watch Yoo Jin-Goo in anything, good or bad. He is just enthralling. I believe him in everything he’s in; he’s not forced, he has great timing, his eyes tell the story, and his voice inflections make me want to reach through the screen and just hold him. I still think that he will be one of the most prolific actors Korea has ever had.

Keeping hubby in the loop with Circle, but slowly realizing that although he likes Western sci-fi, he turns to Korean dramas for the rom-com and melodrama.

Which brings up another conversation:

Me: I want you to watch this interview with Gong Yoo with me, I’ve seen half of it. We’ll play “what if” after we’re done.

*Both watching the CNN Asia interview with Gong Yoo, found here: https://youtu.be/ungTrlhrJa8 *

Me: Doesn’t this make you sad? He sounds lonely and depressed.

Hubby: He probably is lonely and depressed. It sounds like he needs to go to middle of nowhere Italy, where we were, and hike the mountains and drink from the springs.

Me: Or he could come here. Our life would be perfect for him.

Hubby: Oh, that’s a great idea, having your TV boyfriend visit us. Are you crazy!?!

Me: I’m serious! We went on a long (5 mile) walk/hike this morning before work, without anyone around. Absolutely NO ONE would recognize him in our 1% minority, all Caucasian hick town. He could go grocery shopping without being bothered. He could go to the lake and ski, hiking in the National Forest; you could cook, it would be an amazing respite. And who wouldn’t want to hang with us?

Hubby: True. He would just need a private jet to get here to avoid the mobs in Korea and Asia.

Me: But we would look like deranged fans if we wrote him inviting him to stay in our house—he might be afraid we’d murder him in his sleep. Maybe we should just tell him the spots in Italy where we saw no Asians or Koreans, staying away from Rome and Venice. Belluna in the mountains and Bibione Beach were both amazing and I doubt anyone would know him there.

*Later that night *

Me: *Barely awake, but hearing “Beautiful” by Crush emanating from my husband’s side of the bed. Am I dreaming?...

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Me: What are you doing?

Hubby: Nothing. * Smothering phone with his pillow *

Me: Are you listening to the Goblin soundtrack??? I have to sleep, it’s 11 pm and I have a ton of charts to do tomorrow before we leave for Texas.

Hubby: I’ll go to the other room then. *Gets out of bed *

Me: *Calling after him * I still hear Ailee’s “I will go to you like the First Snow.” Seriously, if you don’t turn it off, I’m going to write Gong Yoo’s managing company and invite him over!

Hubby: Fine, I’m turning it off…after this song.

Me: *An hour later, tossing and turning with Ailee’s song still running through my head *
Dear Gong Yoo…

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If Gong Yoo won't spend his holidays with you, I'm sure you'll find plenty of candidates around here. You both sound like a lot of fun :-))

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I agree with this! I've been bad at commenting but your stories from you and your husband are a joy to read every time.

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Oh, I just have fun writing them, and hope it brings some joy to someone who needs it.

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Moral of the Story: Seriously, Gong Yoo, get some rest and there are plenty of places in the world you could go to find some peace from the madness that is your life.

2nd Moral: My house is always open for amazingly talented, impressive people to crash and we cook and are really non-intrusive.

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Ah, if you need to be amazingly talented and impressive, never mind... :-p

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I'm sure we're all amazing on Dramabeans!

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Im so jealous! I wish my husband would be addicted to kdramas too! Haha.

You guys sound like a riot, if I'm ever in your side of the world I will unabashedly self invite myself over. ?

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He's not addicted, it's just me, but while he watches the same drama a million times over and immerses himself, I watch several.

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He watches without complaint and enjoys it which is more than I can ever hope for. My husband is like the evil critic from hell when he sits next to me as I watch kdramas. (Why do they all look so girly? That doesnt make sense! Why is there a *insert random plot point* suddenly now?)

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Mine watches occasionally. He loved Let's Eat, Misaeng, and Two Weeks. He goes to the back room to watch his stuff when I'm watching my other shows.

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Lol at least he gets you!

Men in my life are not as understanding with my k-drama addiction :(.
Me: can you make me a header for my wall?
Him: Sure, send me the pictures.
Me: Yay thank you! ( sent pictures of Yeo Jin-goo, Song Joong-ki and Lee Jun-ki).
Him: What the ..? Sorry I accidently deleted it.
Me: That's ok accident happens. It might happen to the things you love too.
(Goes to his account and transfer all his game money to my character then change my password lol).

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My conversation with hubby who only catches glimpses of shows I am watching:

Me: The whereabouts of Woo-jin is still a mystery in 2037.

Hubby: Is he going to tell his future daughter that he is the father?

Me: That's Tunnel.

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Love this!!! ? x100

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Love this! ???

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Another fun story, Ally!

Always fun to read!

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Hello beanies!
how are you all? The past couple of weeks hve been intersting for real life.. Some good things: my sisters confirmation went well. Got a new bike (which I tested to and from work for the first time today). The weather has been nice this week (we are ignoring last week when it snowd heavily) And people at work are mostly back to being civil!

In the bad news I broke up with a guy I've been seeing, but hey not everything can go well. Guess I can go back to dreaming about getting sweapt off my feet kdrama style ;)

Kdrama toddlers style!
4 year old kneeling down in front of one of the girls and held out flowers "these are for you, but you are the pretties flower forever!"

3 year old *building a huose*: "I am building a prison! So bad cops have a place to live"
girl N *yelling for boy A and running to hug him*
Boy A: *gives her a kiss* then says prowdly " we will get married because she learned to say my name!" (girl N is almost deaf but slowly learning how to speak).

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Hi! Glad to hear things with the co-workers have settled down a bit. I can imagine that things during the past weeks have been difficult and/or uncomfortable. ..... Sorry to hear about the breakup. Sometimes, things just don't work out, right?

The toddlers! "So bad cops have a place to live." *laughing* ..... They definitely say the most unexpected things! :)

Have a great weekend!

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Yeah, the break up was for the best in the long run. We had just reached a point where we were just slipping more and more appart. Difference places in our lives to so things weren't working out. It was a mutual agreement, but still feels a bit bitter sweet.

They do right? ^^ I miss going around with a notepad so I could record them all like I did in china. There are so many things see during the week and then it's time for the OT and I can only remember a handfull of them xD

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I love these Kdrama-toddlers haha, kids are the cutest! :D

I'm sorry you broke up, time to go find someone even better! ^^

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And agree with @korfan, it's good to hear that your colleagues are getting nicer again!

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Haha yeah they make my days with all the random and sometimes really philosophical things then can say :)

haha yeah now I can wait around for that perfect drama hero ;) but yeah it's a bittesweet feelng but probably for the better.

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"The prettiest Flower Forever" - perfect title for a kdrama!

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Haha I can imagine it! One of those revversed harem/make-over ones with a bunch of flower boys an a "plane" girl

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4 year old kneeling down in front of one of the girls and held out flowers "these are for you, but you are the pretties flower forever!"

Dang, son. That boy is gonna be smoooooth when he gets to courting age.

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He is up there with "the player" from my old stories indeed ^^

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Hi beanies! Been a long week... Circle and Suspicious Partner and Fight my way are my current favorite. I don't know what I'll do without Chicago typewriter in my life. It completely sucked me in and I don't want back out.
In other news, a friend and I have decided that we need to treat ourselves and are blowing away our raises on a fancy dinner tonight. Big holes in our pockets tonight! But "treat yourself!" - that's the mantra right?

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Well if you're gonna spend a lot of money it might as well be on food~~~ XD

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And cause I forgot in my first comment:
Dramas I am watching:
1) Tunnel: currently on ep 7. I am liking the drama. Though such a deux ex mahina to have the father walk in just then to confirm the identity. There are a few other examples of this tool being used, but they are a much more descrete than in sleepy hallow so all good.
2) Started a chinese drama called "My girlfriend's boyfriend" such a wacky thing. The main lead is a bit too much for me, but am enjoying the episodes anyway.
feel generally lost for where to start with all the new dramas (I am Lagging way behind). My recent and long lasting drama slump hasn't quite let go, and now I feel unsure about where to start. Might start on some of the ones that have finished their run. :p

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Ah, those picture.. Surpluss princess ! That drama was pure comedy for me, I laughed so hard at almost every episode, I only have to forget the existence of their last episode..

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I have loved many dramas with low ratings but I just can't help asking this one - Why aren't the Koreans watching Seven Day Queen?

I know I can't expect everyone to have the same taste as I do in dramas. Usually, I can even see the reasons why those dramas I liked are not everyone's cup of tea. This time, I can't.

Aside from Suspicious Partner which is a wholly different genre, when I compare SDQ to Ruler of the Mask, the former beats the latter hands down in terms of writing, directing and even acting! Before YSH or KSH's fans throw stones at me, I would like to qualify that we can't really appreciate good acting in a vacuum. It must be accompanied by good writing.

Last week, it was brought up it was perhaps the timing(SDQ started when SP and Ruler already built their stable viewership) or the star power of YSH-KSH that made it hard for SDQ to pull in decent numbers. Is it really so?

I'm not sure if I should have brought this up in OT but it is bugging me more than I like. I guess if I hadn't watched Ruler, I would not be so frustrated.

Watching a show like Ruler makes me wonder if there exist a somewhat independent person in drama production whose job is to check the story, vet the script and point out all the plot holes, logic fails and bad script? It's not just Ruler of course but many shows suffer from these problems. It happens so often and sometimes too many times in one show that I wonder why doesn't anyone check?

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"makes me wonder if there exist a somewhat independent person in drama production whose job is to check the story, vet the script and point out all the plot holes, logic fails and bad script?"

I think the PD has to approve of the script and while there may be others who need to approve of the first few scripts, I think that's about it for most the show. So really it also comes down to the PD. If the PD is good, he'll take on scripts by good writers or point out stuff that needs to be rewritten. Mediocre or bad PDs might not catch all those things. Plus, a really good one can even sometimes make a bad script work.

I think one of the flaws behind TV show writing is that it's not written with a specific end in sight, when it's a Western, multiple season show. You'd think the more closed Asian format would mean improvement, but they still write scripts on a more weekly basis too, so they're under time pressure and sometimes loose sight of the end or just don't know how to get from A to Z.

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Yes, I think the time constraints may certainly contribute to this situation. When you find yourself constantly racing to beat the clock, as they say, you'll often run the risk of missing things, unfortunately.

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In the case of Ruler, the PD is just as bad. So, the drama suffers from the fatal combination with no checks. I have no experience in writing but I'd imagine as a writer, wouldn't you need to keep track of all your story lines, characters' motives and development etc? There must be some sort of planning even if you are improvising the script weekly.

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I'd say yes, you would need to keep track of those. Unfortunately there are a million writers who don't take those things very seriously and just churn out stuff to make money. Sad, but true. That's why there are so many predictable makjang family dramas and why American TV shows have a gazillion seasons and go on until nothing even makes sense anymore.

Planning is something you put a lot of care into if you have a lot of writer's pride or take yourself seriously as an artist. But even writers like Charles Dickens wrote getting paid per word and sometimes forgot things like sideplots when they wrote serials for magazines.

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That's the benefit of start early. I don't think the hype has so much to with consistency of the rating, at least for me it doesn't apply to all drama - drama like Saimdang & UF as the proofs. Ruler is kind of sageuk that audiences watch, regardless how slow paced and its weak writing.

Not watching SDQ but see Lookout, its rating keeps increasing, and now has reached 7% ++. They started lower than SDQ (if my memory serves me right) so if Lookout can do it, I don't see why SDQ cannot do it especially with positive reviews that I read at least in this site. Probably the rating would be higher once the adult appear. No drama in this time slot (same goes to Mon-Tues) that actually is a giant competitor - so the probability to get higher is there. Maybe KBS should promote more? Like how they promoting FMW.

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Sera, I wish you are watching SDQ too so that I can hear your opinion. I don't mind if a fan of Ruler tells me why they prefer the show to SDQ, LOL!

When you say Ruler is the kind of saeguk that viewers watch regardless of the weak writing, why doesn't it apply to SDQ? I would think that SDQ is actually a more traditional saeguk than Ruler, am I wrong? Ruler may be set in saeguk but I don't find the plots or politics on par with most saeguks.

You are right that no drama is a giant competitor. I'd thought that SP and FMW would get better ratings because there's always an audience for rom com. Just look at SWDBS. But SP can't even break 10% and FMW just broke it this week.

I don't keep track of promotions. It's a shame if KBS isn't promoting SDQ enough.

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"When you say Ruler is the kind of saeguk that viewers watch regardless of the weak writing, why doesn't it apply to SDQ? I would think that SDQ is actually a more traditional saeguk than Ruler, am I wrong? Ruler may be set in saeguk but I don't find the plots or politics on par with most saeguks."

My answer is like I said - that's the benefit of start early. People already on Ruler's track that it will be hard to change to other channel. To be honest, if I am Korean and I already started & connected with Ruler's plot it won't be easy for me to change to other drama except if Ruler is really boring, which for me is not. As long as there is something I can look forward to, I will keep watching.

I can't comment for SDQ as I watched some parts in first two epi, and not really drawn with the child actors' part. Maybe will check later when I have time as I have read many postive reviews here. Probably if SDQ started on the same day with Ruler & SP, the rating will be different than now.

Of course if the rating can reflect the quality, it will great, but I have already accepted on the fact that high rating doesn't mean it is quality product too. If my fav shows get high rating, I will be happy, if not, I will just appreciate whatever my drama got it. Maybe having many fav shows which are underrated made me more positive lol.

About the promotion, I don't really follow either. But I don't think I have seen many buzz for first four epi.

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I think capturing the audience from the start is very important. This is why dramas like Ruler start with a bang. The pace is fast, things escalate quickly and move at a breakneck speed. By the time, they start to falter and the flaws get bigger, the audience is already hooked. Some will switch or drop but most will stay regardless of the quality.

Interesting that you brought up about the child actors' parts. On the contrary, I love them so much that I am already missing them. However I also realized there are some viewers(comments I garner from streaming sites) who dislike the girl very much.

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Yes, for some productions they want to start with a bang at least in the first 4-6 epi, in order to secure audiences. We have many examples for that. That's why I don't really trust when any drama started really well. I already expected the slowness of Ruler after first four epi - because everything went so fast, and we also questioned, will the writer has enough material for 16 more epi and I think we have the answer already.

I don't dislike the girl in SDQ btw. I think she is cute.

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I concur with Seven Day Queen. It does seem the kind of saeguk that the Korean audience would gravitate toward, so I am confounded by the low rating. The show deserves to be appreciated!

I often hope that there is a dedicated "plot hole reaper" or "logic fail police" on the editing team. These flaws are fun to make fun of for a bad show, but they drives me bananas when I see the promise of greatness and then a facepalm moment takes me out of the story.

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Hahaha! I like the idea of "Plot Hole Reaper" and "Logic Fail Police"! Banish all these evils of bad drama writing for good ?

Some shows are so bad that I find them funny. Ruler unfortunately isn't one of them. Perhaps it's because I thought the show would be an entertaining ride even though there were signs of weak writing from the start.

I think I tend to be very hard on shows which take themselves seriously but fall far short. It explains why I can stomach all the nonsense in My Sassy Girl but I just cannot stand the no sense in Ruler.

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It is also difficult for me to tolerate logic fails for shows which take themselves very seriously. This is the reason why I have not yet been able to fully embrace Korean legal thrillers, police procedurals, and medical dramas.

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I am waiting for the child actors to grow up into the adult actors before watching 7DQ. I am more interested in watching the adult actors than child actors.

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After several of my favourite shows received less than impressive ratings (case in point, Hello Monster), I have told myself to come to terms with it. I'd be happy if 7DQ could manage to pull at least 8% further into the show. Ruler is saved by the veteran cast and YSH and KSH, but I must say this is the weakest work of KSH that I have seen so far, no matter how much I adore the girl. I like YSH as he is, but among the male actors of the 9x generations none has beaten Yeo Jin Goo in sageuk yet, at least for me.

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Yeo Jin Goo is my new found love! I haven't seen anyone in among his peers as good as he is. Besides TMETS, what other saeguk would you recommend to watch for YJG?

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@kiara would be able to make better recommendations than I ever can :D. I've fallen in love with YJG in TMETS, then back-watching Iljimae and was surprised to find both him and Kim Yoo Jung there, but they were so tiny. Looks like he's in Warrior Baek Dong Soo and Tree With Deep Roots too, but I haven't got time to check any of those out myself. I sat through the horrible writing of Jackpot just for him, but at a certain point the story became too much to bear so I rage quit it. If you just want a short watching experience then seeing him in the first few episodes of Jackpot would still do. I personally like his performance much better than Jang Geun-Suk's, though I don't disregard the latter's amazing effort and sacrifice for the role he played.

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Btw, Choi Min-Soo is the real star of Jackpot!! With him exiting the show, there was little reason left for me to stay (Yeo Jin Goo alone couldn't save the writing for me sadly). The man reeks of charisma in literally every scene he is in. :O

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I miss the tiny Jin Goo and Yoo Jung lol.

@outofthisworld he has so many drama when he played as young part. But among my favorite were in Giant ( as young Lee Beom Soo) & in Tree with Deep Roots (as young Jang Hyuk).

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@maskros, Choi Min Soo was da bomb in The Liar and His Lover. If only Jackpot had good writing, sigh.

@seralovestteobokki I think I'll have to pick up TWDR on of these days. I've been wanting to start it.

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Dang he's in TLAHL too? Now I've got to resume the show.

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I was fangirling hard on Choi Min-soo in "Jackpot." He has that majestic aura in sageuk that makes his presence commanding.
If there is something that I hope for Yeo Jin-goo to learn from him is "less is more."

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You're right. When I saw him I thought that the real Sukjong could have looked only as much formidable in real life. There was so much going underneath the surface even when he didn't show that much emotion at all. When he left the show I was left puzzled why they could manage to secure such an actor and let the whole show go to waste.

As much as I agree with you that Choi Min-Soo's style is less is more, I wonder if that is YJG's acting style at all. Not that I doubt he can ever master it; just that I feel boy can do well during emotionally heavy scenes and playing those types of emotions is his forte. I have not seen Circle so I don't know how he has matured in that drama. :D

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@HyeMi
Yeo Jin-goo fangirl party going here?
As a fellow fangirl I'd say that he left his mark in every single sageuks that he was in.

Yeo Jin-goo, Kim Yoo-jung, Shim Eun-kyung, Jin Ji-hee,Park Eun-bin, Nam Ji-Hyun, Lee David, Noh Young-hak, Park Bo-young, Yoo Seung-ho, Lee Hyun-woo... were pretty much the stand out child actors towards the end of the "Sageuk's golden era." The real long traditional epic sageuks that we don't get to see these days. My kind of sageuk /cry.

Fortunately these former fantastic child actors who were well trained in traditional sageuks are transitioning to adulthood and some into their first lead roles YAY.

Imo Yeo Jin-goo is the very best in sageuks. His female counterpart would be the sageuk fairy herself Kim Yoo-jung although Shim Eun-kyung is ridiculous talented and could wipe the floor with them.

I watched a couple episodes of Yeo Jin-goo's first sageuk (Yeon Gaesomun 2006 with 100 eps no sub) and he played Kim Yushin's bratty little brother. He stood out back then even though his fellow child actor Lee David was the main focus.
In short, he is good in everything so watch them all. http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Yeo_Jin_Goo
Sageuks: Yeon Gaesomun (is missing from the list), Iljimae,Ja Myung Go,The Reputable Family, Giant (Period 1970), Warrior Baek Dong Soo,Tree With Deep Roots ....
By the time you are done with Ja Myung Go you could tell that he'd have great chemistry with his future leading ladies. The way he was teasing Jin Ji-hee makes me go aw(coconuts) lol.

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I feel as if just bringing YJG's name up almost always guarantees a fangirl party of some sort haha. Doesn't help that he's knocking it out of the park now in Circles according to the reviews :P

I'm so glad that Circles is a solid project that is making the most of and bringing the best out of YJG's acting capability. As much as I've been excited to see TJG, KJY and KSH transition to adult roles none of the sageuks they've been starring in has been doing them justice. Either the dramas short-changed their characters or fell short in the writing department, or worse, both. I'd love nothing more than to see him headline a good sageuk in the future, with KJY, KSH or Kim Sae Ron when she comes of age.

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I'm always late to the party :(.
You know, I won't be surprise if Yeo Jin-goo will end up as a lead in "Pachunhwang" or play a major character in it.
The writers/producers of "Circle" are known more for their fusion sageuks than modern dramas.

Kim Sae-ron and Kim So-hyun definitely belong to this group of child actors.
I watched "Ja Myung Go" and "The Duo" but I honestly don't remember Kim So-hyun's part. It was probably really short. I hope she won't give up on the genre after "Ruler." She did well in "The Last Princess." Best childhood version of the amazing Son Ye-jin.

I've never seen Kim Sae-ron in a sageuk until "Mirror of the Witch." I wish it wasn't so awkward with the romance because she could've done much better without it.

Unfortunately sageuk these days aren't what it used to be. Historical consciousness is pretty much lacking and the young actors have no proper training. The 2nd lead girl in "Ruler" is the most obvious.

Oh well, I guess things changes and sometimes it's not always for the best.

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I wonder if it has something to do with what the mass consider appealing. plus the production cost too. Sometimes there would be a rather solid one popping up, probably not in the league of the older and more classic ones, but still solid for today's standard; however I think those are rare and even if they're good it's still hard to attract enough viewers compared to other genres.

I just did a quick search for Pachunhwang and on AsianWiki it says the show has changed its title to Six Flying Dragons instead? Are we still getting a new Pachunhwang?

The second lead in Ruler is weak in general. I've watched a couple more projects where she stars and it seems that she's more comfortable playing a certain type of personality and in modern dramas. She brought much of it into Ruler tbh, and that's what caused the inconsistency in her portrayal of the character, besides bad sageuk intonation ofc.

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Yes it's out with the old and in with the new. Fusion sageuk rom.com is cheaper and more appealing to our generation.
The last epic conventional sageuk was "Jeong Do-jeon" in 2014 (8 million budget). Highest rating was 19.7% which was pretty good but I think KBS was expecting more.

You are actually right about Pachunhwang. It's a place holder for their next sageuk which they that it might be based on King Sejo's (Princess Man) era.

That's too bad about Ruler. Kim So-hyun is basically wasted there :(.

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The number one must watch list is Giant! Although is not sageuk..His young Gangmo is so delightful to watch. Until now, whenever i hear the ost (edelweiss) i can imagining his gangly gangmo walking in old street of seoul with his shoe-shinning box looking as defiant as ever. (While the instrumental ver of edelweiss reminds me of lee bumsoo's grouwn up gangmo)
The first time i watch yjg in drama is iljimae. I still remember the scene when i fall in love with this boy: his character watching his father executed with pulling apart by ox (scary!!!) He trembled, fell down and peed his pants.the traumatized look in his face i can not forget.
I must be the only person who dislike moon/sun. Sure, he was great in there. But moon/sun i can see the traces of his moonsun character in several of his perf after that. His seja-crying-over-yeonwoo also has been milked again n again n again ultil i fed up. I almost believe that yjg already fell down with disease similar to lee jun ki = tendency to lost control, and felt so dissapointed.
Until circle came, that is. Now i completely on rebound!!

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I get the frustration about Ruler, I mean I still tried watching Ruler this week in hopes, it has gotten better or found its mojo back. Because the earlier episode at the premier week, it might not have been perfect but was watchable and intriguing. Things moved fast, the characters were on track, leads were charming....but then the time jump happened and everything regressed. I like Yoo Seung Ho and kim So Hyun more than anybody else but even their combined effort which I see is not enough to salvage the story for me. Right now, Its just a confused mess and I have too many shows that are good to waste time on it to be frank. I much prefer watching select portions on instagram or youtube instead of the whole show. Because, some portions are damn great but all of that combined makes me angry at the writer and the PD.
As for Seven Days Queen, it has found a solid number of core audience this week, I hope the work off mouth can pull in more viewers. I don't know exactly what makes people watch a show and reject one but I guess star power, timing, content, all of that works in combination. Still, I hope it can slowly rise and get double digits because people are missing out. They really are missing out on the child actors, the wonderful script, the music and Lee Dong Gun's perfect acting prowess here. I want to write an open letter to Korean audience and beg them to tune in next week if I could to be honest. But sometimes, it takes time to get the audience but it isn't unnatural to find more viewers later on a show so I hope it rises, 7DQ, fighting!

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Well, "Rebel" was based on the same timeline so watching a back to back sageuk about the same tyrant and now his incompetent brother may be tiring.
There are 3 sageuks on every week. Hello sageuk fatigue...

"Ruler" is kind of like "Flower in Prison." It's old school enough to rope in the older generation. Difference is, one has way too many flaws than the other.
The sageuk viewers are familiar with the leads especially Yoo Seung-ho. He grew up playing the younger version of almost every Joseon kings out there.
I think "Ruler" would have been in the high teens close to 20% right now if the writing and directing weren't a complete mess.

I'm waiting for the main leads of SDQ to show before I start watching.

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I haven't tried SDQ because I'm not in the current mood for a sad ending/tragedy (I may be wrong about expecting this but I feel like I read it somewhere?)...but I know that means nothing in terms of what people like, and I'm not even sure if Ruler is supposed to end well or tragically. I couldn't get past episode 1 or 2 of that one though.

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I have my very first job interview as a *librarian* on Monday, y'all! I'm terrified! I know how to answer all of the interview questions as library assistant--but, this is the dream job, or rather, an important step to the dream job. And, its half the country away. I'm so nervous! I've never moved across the country before and I don't really know how to go about it, but like Maroon 5 said once upon a time, "This place has made [me] crazy and I must get out. Wooooah Wooooah." Good luck with your weeks, Beanies, and thanks for being so welcoming to me as I cautiously move from lurker status. I do enjoy having a place to come when I have kdrama theories coming out of my ears. :)

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Good luck, fellow librarian :).

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Moving across the country is fun! At least it was for me :) No need to worry, change is good and can create many opportunities for you to do new things.

I hope the interview will go well, being a librarian sounds amazing (even if it's not like the movie haha) :D Hwaiting!!

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Good luck! Moving is always a big step. But keeping an open mind and it will be fine. Sometimes you just have to take that lead of faith and enjoy the ride (it might be bumpy or straight but can be just as enjoyable anyway it turns out).

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Wishing you all the best of luck on your interview and all the best on your move!

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y'all are so nice! If it doesn't go as well as hoped...I'll just listen to Vromances I'm fine on repeat. It'll be *sniff* Fine!

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Good luck :). You will be fine !

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Go, go! You can do it! :aja!:

All the library beanies here believe in you!

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Good luck, Don't worry.....I know moving across country is a bit stressful for the first time but it is also fun to explore new possibilities and a new city. I am sure it will be fine. Fighting @isthatacorner

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very cool about your interview and potential move, fighting\o/

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Good Luck!!!. If I can recommend you something, please go to slee early, wake up early but after a full sleep, arrive early and if possible between these two events, give yourself a treat (your favorite coffee, for example) in order to go to your interview with your best mood.

If you are already prepared, then relax and everything will take care of itself ;) .

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Happy Friday Beanies! ^^

So I didn't get around to as much drama-watching as I'd planned, dunno how time slipped away or what I did, but somehow I spent most week doing... nothing... lol :b

Caught up on Suspicious Partner. I still like it, but also still just like it, not love it.

Almost caught up on Lookout and I love it! Only missing this week's eps. It's definitely not flawless and I'm almost as annoyed with the female lead as in Wild Romance, but Kim Young Kwan... Wow... I didn't think I'd ever like his acting, but he's doing so good! I love how all the characters are morally ambigious. She's out doing stuff a cop just shouldn't (or any person for that matter, like, don't go to a school and wave guns around woman!), he's being stealthily and egotistically out for justice hiding behind a mask of sleaziness, the hacker's been to jail and I'm pretty sure what both he and Seulgi's character is doing is illegal lol. They also both seem to have a more selfish motive of revenge somewhere, but they have much more heart than the other two imo. Or they're just more sane.

The Best Hit was such a surprisingly good premiere! I'd been looking forward to it, but did not expect it to be this funny, which is odd, because my most fave PD is behind it, but I just wasn't sure how his variety skills would translate to drama. Basically I loved EVERYTHING about it, except the accidental kisses which is a trope I just loathe. On the plus-side, it was funnier, because it happened three times in a row, which is definitely on the more unusual side. I just hope Idol-Daddy won't fall for the same woman as Idol-Kiddo, because that's just creepy and weird and NO.

Watched Let's Eat. Tis fine. Not a "foodie" so it felt a bit lacking to me, but it wasn't bad. I do know get the Doojoon love though heh.

Seen ep 1-6 of Chicago Typewriter. I LOVED LOVED LOVED the first two eps. But then all the book-stuff started to become background for all the ghost hijinks (which have been seen a million times before) and the reincarnation stuff and both just bore me. So now I'm not sure when I'll manage to finish.

Still trying to finish Mystery Queen. Up next is ep 8. Gotten slightly better, but it just doesn't work for me.

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Variety-wise I've been busy catching up with all the Winner-promotions and all the FT Island appearances that have been rolling out lately due to their 10th anniversary. They were all on ICSY yesterday apparently, so impatiently waiting for subs now! :D

Also loved Hongki on KB, him and Heechul roasting each other is hilarious haha! And HK + Jonghoon on My Little Television was so pathetically funny, with all the cats hiding from the cameras lol :b

Also all caught up on 1N2D. YSY seems to be doing better these days! He's loosened up a bit in his body language and he even makes jokes now and then, yay! I hope he keeps it up and improves even further, I really like the synergy between him and JJY with their almost-reverse hyung-dongsaeng relationship haha ^^

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I just watched 1N2D's Hwarang episode because FMW made me so smitten again by Park Seo Joon (his SWP's character was an ass) - now I wonder how would he be like in variety shows. I remember liking his appearance in Running Man but this 1N2D's episode highlighted his “potential“ as a variety show member, if you can call such bad luck as potential LOL.

I am seriously considering watching Hwarang just to see PSJ while waiting on FMW's new episode, but the reviews scared me. I don't want to fall out of love yet.

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I remember watching that trip and thinking "If only he'd been the one to join instead of YSY" lol. I think it would've been amazing :)

I planned on watching Hwarang (cause all the pretty!), but honestly sageuks aren't my thing and on top of that a bad one? I probably shouldn't put myself through that lol.

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Saeguk also isn't my thing, the only ones I've finished are light ones like Moonlight and Sungkyunkwan Scandal, which is wny I still haven't touched Hwarang.

Now, should we dive in or not?

On other notes, few more days to FMW yay! Waiting for Mondays is def easier because the weekend makes the days passed quickly.

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I've only ever finished fusion sageuks too. Even though I think SFD is fantastic, I'm still just halfway lol.

I think I'll take a pass on Hwarang until one day when I'm too bored and my curiousity too great haha!

I'm not watching FMW, tried the first 10 mins, but then decided I'm already watching too many live shows and it's too stressful. So I'm waiting until it's finished or at least until ManxMan is done lol :b

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If only he'd been the one to join insted of YSY"

I completely agree with you on this. PSJ is just so funny in variety with all his bad luck. However, YSY is slowly improving and learning to be less aggressive when it comes to winning like he was in the first couple of episodes (which made me cringe so much). He hasn't made me laugh yet so there is still a long way to go.

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Agree. He really is improving, like I said above too, but yeah, he still hasn't made me laugh either, so there's definitely room left for improvement.

Park Seo Joon just fit in so naturally with the group and it's been a while since they've had a bad-luck guy haha. I wish he'd become a regular guest or something :P It could be The Flower Boy Trio against The Ahjussis lol.

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Hi Everyone! ....... I hope you are all doing well today!

Watched this week:

Whisper - The fact that Secretary Song can actually find all ways to be funny even as he faces major jail time, is quite amusing.

Fight My Way - Hye-ran ..... Ugh! Can we pleeeeeze do something about her! ..... On a positive note, the actress playing her is certainly doing the job well because we all can't stand her character! Heh!

Suspicious Partner - Up to episode 7-8 and yeah, I'm totally loving this.

Seven Day Queen - Ok, so I really didn't expect to be as impressed by Lee Dong-gun as I have been, but there you have it, I am.

That's all for now. ....... Everyone take care and have a great Friday!

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Totally agree re: Hye-Ran, LOL! She's the perfect character you love to hate! Watching Dong-Man tell her to get lost was insanely satisfying, but I have a feeling he's not going to get rid of her that easily. Oh well...it'll make for more epic battles in future episodes! Just as long as she doesn't kiss Dong-Man again, because imma hafta cut her if that happens. XD

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I just want to come here and drop my wish that everyone will have a good weekend this weekend. It is raining a lot here and I think I'm catching a cold, so stay healthy beanies.

Fight My Way is my absolute treat nowadays. I used to like heavy dramas but now I think I'm falling more for the slice-of-life ones like Misaeng, Oh Hae-Young Again and Fight My Way. I like it when everything seems like ordinary things in life but the script and the execution make it really worthy of watching. They are touching and very relatable.

I bid my good night here. I'm now having some trouble transfering the data in the application LINE in my old IPhone to the new one I just got today. I happened to close the application LINE in my new IPhone when my backep up data was being transfered and then everything was gone. Gone for good, gone forever. I wanted to scream and then I thought of the lead actor's father's saying in Pinochio "When you realize that everything is transient, you won't be sad anymore". Gone. But OK.

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I'm writing this because I saw bb Joohyuk up there, lol.

1. I rarely obsess over personal lives of kdrama celebs, so I'm surprised at myself when after an hour of stalking around I ended up the FB profile of a WFKBJ crew member with less-pixelated pictures during the wrap-up party. Color me crazy.

2. Fight My Way is the only current drama I'm watching...and while I enjoyed their chemistry, Park Seojoon, Geewonie, and the latest episode, I'm not compleeeeetely sold yet. Sometimes I find myself thinking, oh the writer should have added this line, oh they lingered on that shot five seconds too long, etc. Doesn't help that I hate characters like the ex girlfriend and the wannabe boyfriend (although Moobin can be cute).

3. I'm gonna start Liar and His Lover because how can I not, after seeing the 2,000+ comments on the finale...and after reading JB's really good impression of it <3

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Just a iny warning: the start of TLAHL was kind of shaky, but if you keep watching you'll definitely be rewarded hehe ^^

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I actually tried to watch the first episode weeks before and it felt so fresh. Had to stop just when Joy's guitar string snapped because the second hand humiliation hit me so hard that time XD

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LOL I know that feeling! Secondhand embarrassment gets me every time :b
It does indeed feel fresh right from the start! I was a bit "meh" on it first, because it had some slight editing issues, but it found its feet pretty quickly :D

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I am so thankful for 7DQ to be in my life because the story is so touching and beautifully presented for the past 4 episodes. I really don't want to be ahead of myself and sing praises just to be disappointed later on, but I must say I'm impressed by the course the story has taken and how it's been told. LDG and the child actors made their way into my heart without me even realising it. The first four episodes were solid in laying the foundation for the story and the romance that is going to be at the centre of the show. To say I'm convinced by the romance is an understatement. The two kids' acting feels so sincere and genuine that I wouldn't have any trouble believing that they might like each other in real life, if somebody told me so. I also absolutely love the fact that the writing made them completely equal in their relationship: the girl would link arms, hold hand, give the ring to the prince and even wipe his tears. Yet it doesn't make the prince any confused or passive - I love his teasing her and telling her in a brotherly, friendly, but no less romantic way that he likes her too and would marry her for his feeling. Absolutely no cheese. These two cutie pies' lines are that genuine and transparent; they're like soft breezes: refreshing and heart-fluttering at the same time.

Now that I type these out I've got to watch ep 3 & 4 again to immerse myself in their sweet moments. *sobs*

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Let me be the foolhardy one! After Ruler, I told myself not to get too excited over SDQ. But but....I just can't help myself! I don't care if I have to eat my words later.

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I can't help myself either. I'm having serious trouble keeping my expectation in check, and I feel both alarmed and relieved that the show keeps chipping away at my guard with every minute. Do I even make sense XD?

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Haha, you make total sense. I'm so glad I'm not the only one feeling this way.

I've decided to just surrender to the love and excitement this show is inspiring. There's nothing more satisfying than trusting in a drama and being right!

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I went into this one with so much fear and trepidation because (like all of us) I've been burnt by too many saeguks in the past, but I'm so happy to have been so wrong in my expectations. This one is beautiful, beautifully acted, and full of heart. I'm so looking forward to new episodes, but I'm happy to revel in these past few for now!

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I hold the first 4 eps of this series dear. Let's pray together that the rest of the show would be just as good (or even better, in which case I won't have the slightest protest haha).

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I'm trying to keep the faith and believe it's just going to keep getting better and better! *crossing fingers and toes and saying a prayer*

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I am deeply, irreversibly, unrepentantly down the Yoo Ah In rabbit hole.

I inhaled 5 episodes of Secret Love Affair yesterday and slept at 2am. And I don't regret it one bit. If not for having adult responsibilities I would have gladly carried on till daylight. Haha.

At least I have lots to keep me busy till Circle airs on Monday.

Also planning to watch the first 4 episodes of Seven Day Queen this weekend.

Sleep what sleep? ?

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Heh! The things we do for dramas, right? ;)

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I've been down that rabbit hole for a while :-) I just find that I like everything he is in, not (only :-p ) because of him, but because he seems to have a good eye for projects. I just trust that whatever he is in will probably be good :-) . His acting does a lot, of course, but sometimes not even good acting can salvage a trainwreck...

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So true! I've definitely experienced some dramas that went off the rails thanks to poor writing.

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Does anyone have some recommendations for a daily drama to watch? I'm almost finished with All is Well and KBS's YouTube page has more but I'm not sure what to watch. I've previously watched One Well-Raised Daughter and Ugly Alert.

I find dailies fun because they are just filler for me and I don't feel bad about putting them on hold for a bit when they get really makjang.

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I watched few epi of Lovers In Bloom, it is easy watch but I haven't watched this week's epi yet ? All Kinds of Daughter In Law look interesting, so maybe will check it out this weekend. Also tempting to watch Waiting For You (C-drama) because some said it is kind of korean makjang drama lol.

I never really finished all my dailies, except few revenge drama. Sometimes I forgot to pick up from where I left and with many other drama it will be totally forgotten.

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The lead actor in Lovers in Bloom looks very familiar :D I haven't formed the habit of checking the actors' names and past works in a drama yet unless I'm very impressed by their performance, so I've let my laziness get the better of me :D. I'm just happy to see the princess in Moon-Sun making her appearance in the show as the female chef. Haven't seen her in a while.

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He was in Hwarang - Do Ji Han. I did watched some of his parts in Hwarang. But I started this for Bora Bora (her name is Nam Bo Ra and in this drama , her name is also Bo Ra ?). Excited to see her back. She is so cute that it's hard to believe she is 28 y.o this year.

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Dang the girl looks too young I can't believe she's in her late twenties!
And yes Do Ji Han comes to mind now, thanks for reminding me; I did watch Hwarang up until he got his butt grabbed by the female lead's friend, haha XD.

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They are few others who looks young and hard to believe will reach 30 in few years. Hopefully these girls will have breakout role soon.

Yes I watched some of their parts lol.

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Bo Ra is also one year older than the lead girl in this drama, Im Soo Hyang ? Sometimes having mature look give more chances to do more variety of roles.

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You should watch Father is strange. I usually can't get past 4 episodes of most daily dramas but this show is well written with lots of interesting subplots. It is currently on episode 28 and the story has not been draggy.The acting is also very good too.

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I think Lookout is the only one I love at the moment, after CT ended last week.. The others like The Best Hit & My Sassy Girl gave me good laugh so far, and for MSG, I started to love this drama little by little.

Thinking either to start Duel now or wait few more epi. But I am excited for Secret Forest. Hopefully subs will come out early.

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I have too many dramas on my plate....do I sound like I am complaining?

Watching SDQ, MSG, Circle, Lookout, just started Chicago Typewriter. Contemplating Best Hit. Putting on hold but definitely will resume Strong Family 2017.

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Strong Family - I still haven't watched latest epi yet. I think this drama will be perfect if I will be in drama slump later. No worries, I have a lot more than you, as I'm watching some daily / weekend drama as a filler lol. Not to forget I am surveying some taiwanese /chinese drama too ?
Sigh now suddenly I wish there will be daily sageuk again.

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I'm also drowning in dramas, which is quite unusual. Not that I'm complaining.

Super Family continue to be really good. There are many expected but also unexpected development on the romance front. Some cute, some heart wrenching. And Dir Choi is still my fave dream boss ever

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I opened my old harddisk where all my old dramas is saved (it is from 2004) and all my memory youth came bak to me. So I'm living my past these days. 12 years since I watched Nobuta wa produce!. See Kame and Pi ( we are from same generation) and KONKON makes me feel happy. I'm glad and thankful that I had great youth.

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Bye-bicycle! :D

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@mary Awww, and many things like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMgUmL72vpU

I laughed loundly when I saw this scence.

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I lost my old hard disk which contained a lot of drama from 2000 onwards which I collected them with difficulties ? and I am still grieving for it. ?

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Oh dear! I hope I can send a copy of mine to you. I had as well very old drama from 1998 but the majority of them are japanese as I fall to japanese drama before switch to korean.

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I love Nobuta wa Produce! I love the Kame and Yamapi pair so much that I gobbled down their latest offering Boku Unmei no Hito. Yamapi as God is gold! He is just as quirky and hilarious as I last remembered him. Haha.

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I saw her music video PV but not drama. Both grow handsomely up well :). I might watched later.

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I love Quiz!

In some fan-sites they're only provided for K-POP Quiz and sometimes K-Drama.. I just wonder if DB can provide K-Drama Quiz. I mean, no need to offer us some gifts, just provide the Quiz for fun, no pressure..

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They published the kdrama quiz they did for the 10th year anniversary party :D

http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/02/dramabeans-pub-trivia-test-your-k-drama-trivia-knowledge/

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Oh, that's cool! Can we *cough* have the Quiz *cough* every month? Okay, now I become a greedy lol

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Has anyone's ramyun consumption spiked after starting to watch Kdramas?

Sometimes I wonder if the Association of Ramyun Manufacturers is the most powerful backer of drama production companies. It is the most successful PPL in Dramaland. Subway just takes the blame for being the most outwardly visible. Ramyun works much more seamlessly in the cultural context.

Soju Brewers and the Pojangmacha Union are possibly next on the most influential list.

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For sure! Not too good for pregnant ladies but I admit to losing and had probably 1 ramen a month. Hardest one to resist is watching people eat ramen in variety show, they make it look so darn good!

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Me! Me!

I am still hunting for that ramyun which is as delicious as it looks in kdramas. We have lots of Korean ramyun here but I haven't found one that is awesome. I think good kimchi is what is lacking. I've only tasted good kimchi in a few Korean restaurants. Those sold in supermarkets can't really make the cut.

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Make your own kimchi! :) A lot of the Korean markets sell spice packets for those of us who are timid about mixing our own. My hubby made pineapple kimchi this past week, and it was pretty tasty.

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My hubby makes his own as well! Super good! Yay for husband's who cook!

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My hubby worked in a restaurant throughout his youth; he loves to cook. Lucky me! :)

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I entertained that idea before but I chickened out from the challenge. I'm not sure if the Korean marts here sell ready mix but I shall ask.

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Ramen sometimes become part of the story:

1) Tomorrow With You: how the future ramen serves as a flashing sign that our hero might be a time traveller

2) Let's Eat 2: the adorable bickering between the main leads on how to cook ramen, i.e. breaking the noodles in halves or not, when to add the seasoning packs, etc.

Not mentioning that so many dramas where the characters fighting over the pot lids displaying the power dynamic in their relationships

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Definitely, but the biggest influence Kdrama has had on me is my kimchi consumption. I eat kimchi with everything, and by itself half the time. Kimchi is love.

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My husband & son have become huge ramen eaters because of kdramas. I've developed a thing for Korean food in general (I always have red pepper paste in my cupboard now.) My youngest is now a dedicated follower of banana milk (directly from a kdrama).

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Don't forget those powerful kdrama backers, the Society of Korean Coat Sellers!

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@bbstl how can I! I roll my eyes seeing how small the closets the heroines (especially the poor ones) have for especially how many coats she has been wearing (ex. WLFKBJ and Tomorrow With You.)

Glam rooms must have started in Korean dramas.

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Lol.. yes i knowwww. While Bok Joo seemed to come from quite a poor or a middle class family (at best), i noticed that she possessed so many elegant coats. And i said Whoaaaa.

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Hello beanies.
For the past few weeks I've been reading the recaps of suspicious partner, Master, man to man, lagging behind on circle, best hit & fight my way.
Suspicious partner is good till now, but Master was not up to my expectations & Man to man is somewhere in the middle. Anyway, I learned not to judge a book by its cover because I had favorited Master & man to man because I was hyped by the trailers but they didn't turn out that appealing. SP on the other hand is good which I started reading out of curiosity, not even favorited.
Next time I'll complete a drama before giving it my heart lol.

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Yeah, master looked so promising though....oh well.

Do you also watch the dramas along with reading the recaps?

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Actually I do the complete opposite, I read the recaps first, then watch the good parts online. Then I binge watch all the episodes lol.
(sorry for replying SO late, I didn't expect any reply to my comments because they are boring lol. So today when I sat down & opened the comments section and I saw so many replies and I was like woah!...)

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Over the past 3 days I have binge watched Chief Kim and I am absolutely loving it. I have watched 14 episodes in 3 days, something I've not done in a long time. I can't stop watching! Namgung Min's humor can be a bit much and over-the-top for me at times but I've gotten used to it as the drama has progressed. But I love the characters, their interactions with each other, the story is very well written, you are genuinely rooting for the characters and are invested in their lives. The drama is both funny yet impactful. I even find the bad guy (Seo Yul) to be adorable and pitiful despite being an ass, and I am weirdly rooting for him. Stop making me like you Seo Yul! Overall I am loving this drama and even though I went into it not expecting much (I'm not that into office dramas) it has completely won me over and I can't stop watching or thinking of it.

I'm happy to know it did very well ratings wise! Now back to watching Chief Kim!

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Yeay, another Chief Kim's lover!

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Hahaha! I think we all felt a little thing for our gluttonous prosecutor.

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Chief Kim is hilarious! I like it more because it developed the relationship of the business support group, and also the frenemy bromance of Chief Kim and Yul. ?? the bromance is the best part!

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Too true! My sister described them as bronemies.

If anyone watches this thinking there is no romance they obviously weren't paying attention to the Chief Kim x Yul romance. They are the only ones who have kissed in the drama so far.

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Glad you're enjoying Chief Kim! It's a good one!

And yes, Seo Yul is one interesting character.

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Ahem. Deep Breath.

Hello Beanies! Nanabot here! 안녕하세요! 만나서 반갑습니다!

How's the weather like where you are? It's been so hot here rn (Ukraine---though I'm Nigerian mind you, I'm here for school ㅋㅋㅋ) and we're still having classes too! (but at least we'll soon be done).

This season seems to be drama season- theres so many things to watch and some air on the same day its just crazy!
Sometimes I don't even watch the dramas themselves and I just rely on the recaps for updates haha.

- I think a bunch of us would agree that Ruler is falling short somewhat idk how exactly but it is. I was hyped up because of YSH but rn....(sigh no.2)

- 7 day queen shocked me and I am probably gonna look up those young actors soon! The story seems solid, and Yeeosangun! I ACTUALLY FEEL BAD FOR HIM! I'm not condoning his actions at all but at a point I was like : cant someone just give the guy some love?

But now even typing this I realise that ppl probably stopped seing him as a human who still needed affection and only saw the king. His brother definitely loved him but was (sadly) a source of immense stress for him.

I changed the jewellery for my industrial piercing a few weeks ago and I put in two normal studs. I've an admiration for certain piercings and so i've been noticing the cartilage piercings in female actresses these days (3 actresses as of rn, 2 in suspicious partner and one on circle) and i really just cant help but admire teehee.

Aahh, does anyone here enjoy Japanese drama/movies? I'm currently watching one and i think I've started liking certain japanese actors too. Anyone here that could fangirl with me on those?

Aaahhh and What are your thoughts on this thought- "Majority of us here on the DB community are Introverts/Ambiverts" Would this statement apply to you? Do you think personality matters when one judiciously follows and binges drama like we do?

Last note- for the first time ever im indulging in weekend drama (2 actually) - All Kinds of Daughters in Law and Lovers Bloom (Or - The Rose of Sharon Has Bloomed). The first I simply just stumbled upon and gave it a try (and I'm actually liking it!) and the second was because of Do Ji Han (sighs). They're pretty short and day to day so its really easy to keep up with them.

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I just started Lovers Bloom, and it's my first drama of this kind, too! I normally avoid these like the plague, but so far it's worth it for Do Ji Han. I just have to get used to the pacing being sooo very different from the intense cable dramas I'm used to watching. I'll admit, though, they got me interested pretty quickly with that scene in the plane at the beginning. I do love a man who can take down a jerk... XD

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Hahaha! Ikr! And I like how all the families are being interwoven - Bora x Moo Goong Hwa's brother, MGH x Chief Cha, that ajumma taking care of Chief Cha's grandma x Chief Cha's father (apperently being her first love), MGH brother's assistant/business partner/friend being the son of said ajumma who happened to have duped MGH mother haha.

Truly the pacing is different...it gives me the feels of late '90's family sitcoms somehow. The likes of Family Matters etc... Though its not as funny...

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Hello nanadot! One Japanese actor I love is Masaki Okada I think his name is. I think I love him with Gakki in Okitegami. Other than him, I have no other favourite. Who is yours?

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Gakki? As in Yui Aragaki? I think the only thing I've watched of her's is Nige-Hagi (we got married as a job) which I really adored tbh!

Somehow I always have a soft spot for high-school-ish jdramas and movies so right now im patiently waiting to see subbed versions of Kyo no Kira kun and ReLife online (well i did read both their source manga haha).

Actors/actresses I like - Nakagawa Taishi, Yuriko Ishida, Tatsuya Fujiwara (He stars in the Japanese remake of Confessions of Murder), Matsuoka Mayu too...

Aahh did you read on here about how there's supposed to be a remake of the Japanese drama - a million stars falling from the sky? Did you ever watch that drama?

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Yes Yui Aragaki! If you like quirky mysteries, I love her in Okitegami Kyoko No Biboroku. She has great chemistry with her co-star.

Yes I heard of that remake! Should I watch it?

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Ah, the remake's not out yet, but the talk about it got me interested in the original...I Was Shocked! Im curious as to how The korean portrayal would be really.

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I like J-dramas too, they're more my speed. Recently finished BORDER, superb stuff. Which Japanese actors and dramas do you like?

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Hi!
Im currently watching Reverse. I tend to gear towards younger actors and actresses I guess because I like to see what they can do.

I really enjoy good Japanese mysteries and psychological dramas and movies - like Reverse, Ferris wheel at night, Confessions etc (the darker the tbh) but I still enjoy light hearted stuff too (eg. Nige-Hagi, Almost-Every-High-school-Manga-Adaptation/Live Action.

As for actors - the names mentioned in my reply above ?and Yamada Ryosuke....and the lady who plays Daimon Michiko in Doctor X (I really just if her as Michiko tbh haha... Cant remember name)

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Ah, you mean Yonekura Ryoko. She's pretty good, but I wish she'd stop doing Doctor X, it's gone beyond silly. I've only seen Yamada Ryosuke in Cain and Abel, where he was decent (the drama is sadly forgettable). Fujiwara Tatsuya was great in Death Note, how's he doing in Reverse?

I like Tamaki Hiroshi - still adore his chemistry with Ueno Juri in Nodame Cantabile. Oguri Shun is also pretty solid. Abe Hiroshi is just in another class of his own. Japan does pretty good procedurals, you should check out the WOWOW ones if you haven't. Recent favourites include Kageri Yuku Natsu and Yami no Bansosha, both excellent.

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Arigato Gozaimasu!
Ah i was wondering if you ever watched Hirugao? Or I'm Home?

Ah and dyou hv any actual movie recommendations also?
Did you ever watch Roommate, My Dear Friends, The world of Kanoko, Confessions? What Jmovie dyou like best?

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@nanabot
I've watched both Hirugao and I'm Home. Both are okay, but not outstanding. Hirugao is now getting a movie and side story, which I think is unnecessary and milking it as the drama wrapped things up fairly well. I'm Home had Kimutaku in a rare father role, so that was a highlight of sorts.

Mmm not as well-versed about J-films, I think the last one I watched was Rurouni Kenshin? I do want to watch more and I'm sure there are many excellent ones out there. Do you have any recommendations?

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I'm watching Reverse – it has me totally on the edge. Just watched eps 7 + 8 in a one go, and, oh, I wish I could watch ep 9 right now! Or marathon it all right to the end (not sure how many episodes it's supposed to have).

@junny, you're reminding me I should watch Border... For some reason I never got round to it. Fujiwara Tatsuya is brilliant in Reverse by the way. Though really, the whole cast is solid (the sort of thing I tend to miss in kdramaland, where they'll always throw in weak links).

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You should totally watch BORDER! It's awesome and I love it. Oguri Shun was fantastic in it and I love how the story built up. I'll give Reverse a look soon, it sounds pretty good. I have to agree about the weak links.

Btw, are you still blogging? And do you intend to register on here?

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Aaahh finally someone I could discuss Reverse with! As expected of Kanae Minato the. Plot is solid. I was really surprised that Miho-chan had anything to do with this. From epi 1 i kept on suspecting Asami, Tanihara and Murai had something to do with Hirosawas actual death only to be thrown off about 5 mins to the end of the episode repeatedly!

And Murai Kuns wife...sigh...i hv no words for that womann. I just feel bad for Fukase...hes so awkward already and then this happened.

Is there any other Jdrama youre watching? Dyou hv any particular Jmovie you like?

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I follow Reverse too lol. I also think that Fujiwara Tatsuya plays his character (Fukase) very well. I like the others as well. It's just the plot's a bit slow, probably because the show wants to explore the characters involved in the incident.

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I had my eye on Do Ji Han since Real School. It's a sitcom by MBC in 2011. He is the main lead in there. He acts as a serious, handsome character who has no sense of direction. The romance is cute too. He also sang "I Have Dream"
My favorite Japanese actors (and their dramas/movies) are Yamapi (Nobuta wo Produce, Operation Proposal, 5 to 9[with Satomi]), Okada Masaki (Otomen, Okitegami Kyoko no Biboroku [with Gakky], I Give My First Love To You [with Mao]), Ryunosuke Kamiki and Yamada Ryosuke (my OT3 with Shida Mirai from Detective School Q), Shota Matsuda (Liar Game) [with Erika], Kento Yamazaki (Heroine Disqualified and A Girl and 3 Sweethearts [with Mirei], Orange [with Tao], Death Note 2015. Recently I also like Ryota Katayose from Ani ni Aisaresugite Komattemasu.

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Aaajhhh. I recently noticed Ryota Katayose as well! Maybe it was due to the production quality but Ani-Koma looks really good and he seemed....hhmmm not charismatic per say...shall we say (in japanese) Kakoii(?)

Aaahhh and I cant believe I forgot to mention that I like Kitagawa Keiko haha!!

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@brulee Really? I find the pacing cery okay actually (though maybe its my bias to the actual author of the book which it's based off). Have you watched episode 8?

@Junny naah I cant give any recommendations either really, these days a lot of movies that I've seen promotions for are all live action adaptation of manga anyway (mostly High school too - which i dont really mind though)

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I don't mind about a little slower pacing though. I have and I have watched ep 9 (still RAW though) and I can't wait to watch the next ep lol

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I miss the "name that drama". Is where I pick what to watch from the past... With a marathon. Where is it?

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It's been years since I regularly commented on an Open Thread! But lately there have been so many dramas to love that I'm practically living with the Dramabeans window open on my computer permanently. It's nice to be back! *waves excitedly to everyone*
I'm adoring Fight My Way; can't say enough wonderful things about it. It's hilarious, sweet, sincere when it needs to be, all the best things about rom coms done right. Looking forward to see what happens when Dong Man gets back to that hospital room next week! And the developing strain in our secondary couple's relationship makes for such realistic, touching moments. It's refreshing to watch a Kdrama and actually recognize yourself not just in the characters but situationally as well!

I'm also watching Seven Day Queen and Lee Dong Gun is just putting in such a mindblowing performance that it's staggering. The show as a whole has really impressed me, but he in particular is really doing something special with this role!

And then we have Suspicious Partner. Every time I think they're going to go the cliche route, they turn around and whip something out like that AMAZING confession by Ji Wook. I never knew how much I wanted to see a Kdrama hero who truly and deeply respects his love interest not simply as a woman but as his equal. It's blowing my mind. (Also blowing my mind: That. Kiss. Thank ALL the drama gods and JCW for that piece of Kdrama glory!!!!)

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So nice of you to come back here! *waves excitedly back!*

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This is pretty much an OMO week.

Our FBI director flat-out called our President a liar, a criminal, and a tool. President replied "I'm not a poopyhead, YOU ARE."

British hung Parliament! Nobody's in charge!

My husband says TOP is in the hospital from an overdose?!?

It's mass hysteria out there, people!

My distractions:

Fight My Way: Ok, I'm starting to get annoyed with the weird avoidance thing going on between Ae-ra & Dong-man. Shows my age, I guess, cause I'm just like, look, kiss him/her or don't, but stop dithering. Also, Moo-bin is a creep, Dong-man is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and Seol-hee needs to put her foot down for a decision from Joo-Man. Seriously, you're dating six years & you're still shying away from marriage talk? Dude, grow up. /old-lady-impatience

The Best Hit (or is it 'Biggest' hit?): I really like the female lead in this, and I like the manager who is just doggedly trying to make a living & trying to improve his son's life. I just want to push the rest of the characters in the mud. Especially the 'hip-hop' roommate (lawd have mercy, he makes me cringe every time he's onscreen.) I laughed hysterically when I saw that the two little kids had more swag than the rest of the adults in the practice room. But I'm a sucker for time-travel stuff, so count me in for the duration.

I'd love to be watching Duel, if I could find it. :(

This week I was sick with a stomach virus, and so I watched three movies:

Ghost Sweepers: Cute, and I always enjoy seeing how other cultures do ghost movies. Took me a while to figure out that one of the ghost hunters was the young cop from "Signal".

Hello, Murderer: This is a really fun movie - creepy, and yet still funny as heck. The young detective lead is also easy on the eyes (he was the flirty employee in Coffee Prince).

Frozen Flower: Oh, my. Jo In-sung is bare-ass nekkid in this, having sex with a man AND a woman (played by Song Ji-hyo). :fans self: Of course, at the end, they all have to die tragically for love, but still, Jo In-sung's bare butt. (Thank you, Jo In-sung-si, for allowing us to ogle your lithe form.) :fans self:

Library news:

In the last week, I've added Billy Go's Korean Made Simple Vol. 1 (for which there were 2 holds), A Hard Day, and Chief Kim (which had six holds!) Aw, yisssss. I am slowly but surely turning on all the patrons to the wonders of international cinema and television.

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Your old-lady-impatience really made me laugh haha, that sounds like me! I'm still young, but even so get really annoyed with the tug-war/immaturity of a lot of romcom relationships. Seems like I did right in not starting FMW yet, because I'd probably just be yelling at the screen in frustration, or more likely, just start doing something else while watching lol.

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Oh, and I wish my library had someone like you deciding what to buy! Korean movies, sure, but anything above that doesn't really become available here.

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Go talk to one of the librarians about it! Most libraries will buy patron requests (at least one or two) - if you pick a super-good one, the circulations numbers may cause them to order more. :)

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Oh good idea, thanks! :)

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dithering - heh
The female lead in The Biggest Bestest Hit was in Vampire Detective and I loved her in that. She is refreshing, spunky, and outta my way. Love her.

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Love Lee Se Young! I hope she will be more famous after this drama. She has been acting for 20 years already. ?

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Ohh, Sassy Girl is that you? I like your thoughts about the dramas you're watching. Subtlety out. Frankness in.

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I am too old to beat around the bush. :laugh:

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You can watch duel on dramalike.tv or you can download the raw + subs

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Also, I have dreamed twice more about Lee Joon-gi. Night before last, I dreamed that a friend was working on a movie set & asked me to bring over some orange hair dye because he had run out. I got enough for me, too, and did this complicated dye job with orange, pink, and purple shades in my hair. When I got there the next day, Lee Joon-gi was in the chair waiting to have his hair done because he was a co-star in the film. I sat in the next chair over and chatted amiably with him about my hair. :throws up hands: Really, subconscious? Is this what we've come to?

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I never dreamt about actors until I got pregnant. They say pregnancy hormones make you dream weird things - last week I dreamt about Kim Jae Wook and last month about Sung Hoon. Nothing kinky I swear but it does make me look up their dramas to see if there's anything good I missed out on watching LOL.

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You'd think if I had three dreams about him, at least one would be a hubba-hubba kind of dream, but nooooooo. Two of them were about work.

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So lucky! I NEVER dream about my celebrity crushes. Lol. No matter how hard I try! Hee

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Now I'm totally curious ..... did you guys chat in Korean, English, or another language?

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In the first work dream, bit of both. The second work dream, in English, and in English in the third dream, as well.

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Suspicious Partner: “That was so uncivilized.”
My Father is Strange – “I see celebrities these days go in the jungle and eat insects.” So eat your birthday seaweed soup, Joong Hee. I’m recapping away at http://www.cimiart.wordpress.com
*Why do the pizzas in kdramas all look like they have pineapple on them? I agree with the President of Iceland who wants to ban pineapple on pizza! http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/europe/iceland-president-pineapple-pizza-ban-trnd/index.html
Radio Star: loved DJs rocker Kim Chul Soo and Shin Young (she isn’t on many variety shows these days and I miss her, but apparently she has a radio show that has fun for five years).
Oppa Thinking – 3 eps of this new variety show are subbed so far. Totally chaotic and I found it uncomfortable somehow.
Speaking of celebrities in the jungle, LoJ New Zealand – whipping wind, pelting rain, and fishing underwater in a freezing cold lake – it can’t be worth it.
Also watching Ruler Master of the Mask, The Best Hit, Man to Man, Fight For My Way. There are so many good kdramas now that I find myself gasping when episodes are up and subbed and I’ve missed them by a day or two. It makes me feel so behind. In a good way, because then I stay up into the wee hours of the morning and marathon. But then I’m pooped at work, but thinking about kdramas in the evening recharges my battery. Happy weekend everyone!

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I liked the first ep of Oppa Thinking, but that's mainly because Winner's a funny group and Seunghoon's zombie dance was awesome lol. I tried the one with Henry and Sleepy but found it rather dull, despite Henry and the fact that he's usually pretty unpredictable and fun.

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Me, too. That's why I stuck with it, but the Twice episode was odd and Henry and Sleepy were kinda zero - nothing new.

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Just having this random thought that in Suspicious Partner, it's a good thing that Ji-wook chooses law as his professional field because of his chronic insomnia. I mean, putting aside the fact that his father used to be a prosecutor himself, it's somewhat appropriate because of the looooong hours.

It's either that or being a medic or a designer, LoL

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Well, law can be a pretty sexy profession ;)

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Absolutely, with all of the sleek suits (esp the three-piece ones... RAWR) and ties and sharp wits and persuasive arguments.

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Well, now that Rebel: The Thief Who Stole The People has been over for a while, I'm going through withdrawls. I'm not really thrilled about any of the new shows. (I did finally watch 6 Flying Dragons, because the women breast feeding pigs in the first episode grossed me out so completely I avoided that show. However. I skipped the first episode--watched the recap--and really was impressed with that Sageuk.) But back to now. It could be me. (Maybe all the shows currently playing are WONDERFUL, but I'm just in a funk.) But I can't think of a current show that has been able to keep my attention through the first episode. Maybe I just need to take a break?

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Edit to add: I read the 6 flying dragon recap. READ THE RECAP. (Dramabeans recaps aren't on video yet. . .maybe someday though.)

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@37 Wag_a_Muffin June 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM:

After REBEL, which I loved to bits, I've been watching SEVEN DAY QUEEN because I wanted to see what happens after Yeonsangun's overthrow. I also watched SAIMDANG, LIGHT'S DIARY, which includes King Joongjong, but it only mentions his wife's dethronement in passing.

So far I'm enjoying it, although I've been ready to tear my hair out at the "Let's protect our daughter from the bad oracle by making her live in the boondocks so she'll never develop street sense in Hanyang" strategy. So much pain and suffering could have been averted if Chief Royal Secretary Daddy Shin had explained the realities of court life to his daughter. Lady Shin Chae-kyung's headstrong nature combined with her ignorance of politics makes her a bull in a china shop. While her naïveté and honesty are a refreshing switch from the duplicity of the adults, they still land her and Prince Lee Yeok in deep kimchi. Mercifully, by the end of this week's episodes, we'll be jumping ahead to her older (and hopefully wiser) self. I'm not sure why, but there's something about her rapid-fire delivery of her lines that irritates me. It may be completely irrational on my part, but it rubs me the wrong way. It's very possible that I've been sensitized by a certain princess's outrageous speech and behavior in MY SASSY GIRL. YMMV. ;-)

The young actors have been doing a great job. I'd seen Baek Seung-hwan in BEAUTIFUL MIND, but didn't realize he and Park Si-eun were also in SIX FLYING DRAGONS when I marathoned it right before REBEL. Interestingly, he was in QUEEN INSOO (who seems to be missing from this production -- or has granny already been bumped off?) and JANG OK JUNG, LIVING FOR LOVE.

I've really been enjoying Lee Dong-gun's interpretation of Yeonsangun. He's giving his own spin on the tyrant, just as Kim Ji-suk did so beautifully in REBEL. Yay for realistic antagonists!

For the record, I'm also watching RULER: MASTER OF THE MASK, which alas, is not in the same league with REBEL as far as the writing goes.

The titular character of MY SASSY GIRL was irritating as hell in the first couple of episodes, but I've been having fun watching Joo Won.

I've been anticipating LOOKOUT since it was announced, and have been enjoying it a lot. It's so good to see Shin Dong-wook back in action. DUEL likewise blasted out of the starting gate. I've been looking forward to Yang Se-jong in another dual role after SAIMDANG, and he's knocking it out of the ballpark.

I like sci-fi, and CIRCLE got off to a ripsnorting start. However, it has been difficult for me to get my head around it. Maybe I'm live-watching too many shows at once. This one takes a lot of bandwidth to process with the multiple timelines and the unreliability of memories. It makes me feel like I'm losing my grip.

THE BEST HIT is a blast. I love it. Yoon Shi-yoon is such fun to watch, and the music is great.

MAN TO MAN is wrapping up this...

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cont'd:

MAN TO MAN is wrapping up this weekend, and I'll be sad to see it go. It really grew on me. I was in a bit of a slump myself when I started it, but I warmed up to it.

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Thanks. I was excited for My Sassy Girl, but couldn't watch the sassy girl (who I liked in other dramas). Maybe I'll give it another try. I think there is too much real sad stuff happening in my life to even try 7 day queen yet. (Maybe in a little while.) I appreciate you seeing that I'm not denigrating fans who love current shows, or their choices to watch them. And I do have to admit, (after the first couple of episodes) I like "the best hit." It is fun to see all the people from 2 Days 1 Night show up.

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I just watched the first two episodes of MY ONLY LOVE SONG on Netflix, and laughed my head off. Great fun. See reply to #38.

Sorry to hear that your real-life plate has its share of sadness. Putting off SEVEN DAY QUEEN sounds like a good idea. Kdramas are supposed to be a treat, not a treatment, as my dear grandma used to say. FWIW, I had the film 71: INTO THE FIRE on my watch list for more than a year before I was in the right place to watch it.

There are many shows currently airing that appeal to me. I may drive myself up around the bend attempting to watch them all. I'm just glad that I was able to see REBEL through to the end. It was magnificent. I was getting fatigued towards the end of its 30-episode run, and felt a bit down afterwards. I watched some drama specials and movies along with older dramas I've wanted to see (such as DAMO and THE SPRING DAY OF MY LIFE -- both of which you would likely want to avoid at this time). The Taiwanese drama LOVE AT SEVENTEEN was very good. I enjoyed it a lot.

Anyway, do whatever you need to do. Take a break if you have to -- and marathon later. The Kdramas aren't going anywhere. ;-)

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One of my employees just came in and gave me the title of it to watch. :laugh: Great minds think alike, apparently! :)

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@38 Ainos June 9, 2017 at 12:23 PM:

I just watched the first episode of MY ONLY LOVE SONG on Netflix, and it's a romp. Think of QUEEN IN-HYUN'S MAN in reverse, crossed with Marty McFly, with a little SPACEBALLS on the side. Think time-slip Magic Bus versus Intergalactic Winnebago.

Lee Jong-hyun of CNBLUE and Lee Jae-jin of F.T. Island are in it, along with Kong Seung-yeon (currently appearing in CIRCLE) as the actress who plays a princess in a drama until...

AsianWiki has an entry for it.

The episodes are half an hour. For some reason, I found MY ONLY LOVE SONG funnier than MY SASSY GIRL.

*off to watch episode 2*

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I am sadden to admit that it is funnier than My Sassy Girl. I love Joo Won, but I am not enjoying it as much as I think I should. I have only watched two episodes and I am hooked.

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Just finished Chicago typewriter in 27 hrs. It was a pleasure to know the characters and the beautiful story. I have to take off my hat to show my respect to the writers who penned such an emotional story of true patriots who were more than just friends. I think the drama's biggest achievement is making the viewers feel patriotism and love for those who sacrificed themselves to give us the lands we are happily living in.

Apart from all, will someone be able to help me clear this debate that's making me go nuts - Yoo Ah In looks the best in which era?
The 1930s or 2017? PLEASE HELP!

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I was 100% shocked at how emotional the storyline about their patriotic sacrifice made me in the end. That level of conviction and loyalty is just something that goes to the heart of human experience, I think. It was really amazing!

My vote is def on 1930s Yoo Ah In because of the glorious, glorious wig!!!! I'm telling you, that wig should win its own awards for what it did for YAI. Mrawr.

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Ain't anyone gonna defend for 2017 Yoo Ah In?
I have to say that I want to cut my hair like 1930 Hui Young. But then again I'm no Yoo Ah In. I'll probably look like a tomboy w/ da worst look.

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So I'm watching Six Flying Dragons and I had a thought; dramabeans should introduce Name That OST. There is one song, not really a song..I call it the wailing song I'm loving it so much but I don't know the title?. If there are any beanies who know the title of the song ..Plead help

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So I'm watching Six Flying Dragons and I had a thought; dramabeans should introduce Name That OST. There is one song, not really a song..I call it the wailing song I'm loving it so much but I don't know the title?. If there are any beanies who know the title of the song ..Please help

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I'm willing to bet it's "Green Mountain Special Tune (Cheongsanbyeolgok)" -- which was also played by one of Yeonsangun's court musicians in the final episode or two of REBEL.

It appears in 6FD episode 11 at about 33:00. It is mentioned in the recap: "Bang-ji performs for the people in the town square, though this time, he sings “Cheongsanbyeolgok” (Green Mountain Special Tune), a folk song which laments the loss the Goryeo people faced during various invasions and laments their broken system. The song moves the crowd to tears."

Byun Yo Han (변요한) - Song of Chungsan (청산별곡) | ENG SUB + HANGUL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySMU4gywJis

This is one of my favorite pieces from SIX FLYING DRAGONS.

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Here's another version of "Song of the Green Mountains" from episode 14:

Six Flying Dragons [Cheongsanbyeolgok] Gap Boon&Ddangsae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN1FFNpMIMY

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I'm sure Yoona would appreciate your brother as well.

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It has been a while since I've posted in open thread.

What I'm watching:
Princess agents, chinese drama that recently aired 8 episodes so far. I really like it. I started reading the english translating story a while back but believe the translator have gone on haitus. I don't know the ending and hope to the translator comes back and finish it.

I have not been watching any K-dramas in the last two months. Nothing caught my interest. Sad sad sad.

In other news, I just bought G-dragon's new album, Kwon Jiyong on iTunes. Yay! Love the songs. Also going to his concert in Chicago in July! :)

Enjoy your weekend all! It's going to be really warm here, hitting the 90s. Stay cool and safe!

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Princess Agents is good. As expected of Zhao Li Ying.

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I'm trying to get my friend hooked onto kdramas (because who doesn't need that magic in their life) and i'm trying to find some good legal sites with subtitles I can show them to her on. Does anyone know of any of these kind of sites or are they too good to be true?

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Netflix, Hulu, Viki and Dramafever...

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If you have Amazon Prime, they have some dramas and a bunch of Korean movies you can watch for free.

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So many dramas, so little time. I've always had a "filler" drama to fill my time in between waiting for new episodes each week. But now I don't even have enough time to watch those currently airing. I'm only following Circle, Suspicious Partner, Man to Man, Sassy Girl and 7 Day Queen now with Lookout, Duel and Fight My Way in queue. Lol... Come to think of it, that's a lot of dramas to be watching at one go. I've also introduced Goblin to my non-drama-watching sister living abroad who has only started watching it last night. So I'm watching it again from the beginning as well just to sort of "watch it together" so we can squee and fan girl over Gong Yoo later. I'm hoping to convert her to a drama addict though it's not really working so far. She only started Goblin because I highly recommended it and she was sick at home and bored. She did watch DoTS too, also because I made her. She enjoyed it but it wasn't enough to get her addicted to more. She's saying Goblin is entertaining 2 episodes in. There's hope for her yet.

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Don't underestimate the power of being sick on converting people to kdrama addicts. That's how my husband got into them!

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Hi Beanies or more specifically those of you who like or love Hwang Chi Yeul - he has a mini album "Be Ordinary" which will be released next Tuesday (13 June). Could you please help to increase the views on the official video of the teaser - please go to Youtube and search for "Chiyeul Hwang A Daily Song" and click on the video uploaded by Super Sound Bugs. HCY's mini album has got 100,000 pre-orders already (yay!) but because he is not that well-known internationally, there are sceptics who think the figure is media-play. It isn't - a big thank you to HCY's fans especially in China and South Korea for their awesome support for HCY! Thanks in advance for reading this, and for visiting the official video teaser.

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Only watching 7DQ now, on ep 3, gonna watch 4 once I post this. Was gone for a week working a music festival. Came back, finished Tunnel and Mystery Queen. Watched both J- movies of Midnight Diner, really enjoy that series. There will be a Chinese version of Midnight Diner airing this month, Mark Zhao will be in one of the segments. Hope it will be subbed.

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Hi Beanies!

I was wondering if anyone would be able to help? I was wanting to start Age of Youth but wanted to know if it contained any sexual assault or something similar that could be triggering?

Thanks!

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I haven't watched it myself, but I came across this Kdrama Starter Pack post and the poster gave a trigger warning for dating violence. But I hope other Beanies who've watched it can advise you further!

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THANK YOU SO MUCH!

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watched MOONLIGHT DRAWN BY CLOUDS this weekend and i never thought i will love a sageuk so much oh park bo gum....
As for currently running shows love circle and 7 day queen(it is actually epic and hope it gets the deserving ratings)

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Please don't post the names of non-subscription streaming sites on Dramabeans. Hints are cool, but giving out the names is an invitation to shutting them down. I swear Dramafever used to search this site for websites to go after and shutdown; and that was before Dramabeans got as big and popular as it is now.

I know some of you are morally opposed to watching on unlicensed sites, but remember not everyone who watches has the option of using subscription services, so Viki, Dramafever, Hulu, and Netflix subscription.

Plus, as someone who actually pays for subscriptions on multiple streaming platforms, it's ridiculously difficult to find the shows I want to watch on most of them. Whereas on one of my "bootleg" backup sites, I can find what I want 99.9% of the time with ease--and no buffering issues. And let's not get into the fact that as I learn more Korean, I'm realizing how crappy some of the translations on the licensed sites actually are.

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