Strongest Deliveryman: Episode 2
by odilettante
The show doesn’t hesitate in tackling some dark subject matter as everyone deals with the various setbacks and surprises that life — or their families — throw at them. A few of the characters’ actions may be a little questionable, but when survival is on the line, all that really matters in the end is making it through another day.
EPISODE 2 RECAP
As they precariously balance on the edge of the roof, Kang-soo demands that local delivery “boss” Gong-gi return the stolen bowls. Gong-gi, freaked out by the thought of falling to his death, frantically agrees to give them back. After the bowls are returned to Kang-soo, the rest of the delivery guys rush up to Gong-gi, desperate to know what happened on the rooftop. Gong-gi sagely tells them he won the fight, but Kang-soo’s will was stronger.
Kang-soo triumphantly arrives at the restaurant with his bowls. Dan-ah slaps him on the arm as she mockingly says “Good job, oppa!” In return, Kang-soo shoulder-bumps Dan-ah as he heads to the counter. When she yelps out in pain, he turns around and offers to “blow on it for her.” Ha!
Their little spat is interrupted when the grandmother who owns the local ox bone soup shop arrives with lunch for everyone. She’s one of the restaurant owners in the alley that Jung Family CEO Hye-ran is hoping to force out of business, and the grandmother sighs that even though her restaurant is popular, it’s barely enough to cover rent and her staff’s wages.
Kang-soo reaches for a piece of kimchi, but it slips out of his chopsticks and goes flying… right onto Dan-ah’s chest. Kang-soo reaches for some napkins to wipe it off for her, but Dan-ah grabs his hand and squeezes the nerve center. In pain, Kang-soo insists that he was just trying to wipe off the kimchi, but Soon-ae casually says that Kang-soo had a perverted look in his eye so Dan-ah should flip him.
That’s exactly what Dan-ah does, wordlessly sending Kang-soo to the floor with just a twist of his arm. Amused, Soon-ae adds that she was just kidding about the perverted look. Dan-ah continues to calmly eat while Kang-soo warily keeps his distance.
Ji-yoon’s father discovers that she returned home during the day and retrieved her belongings. He finds an apologetic note from her which tells him not to worry — she’s stronger than her father thinks she is. Haha, I love that she packed up her belongings in a bunch of designer shopping bags, which she lugs down the street as she clutches a giant teddy bear.
Ji-yoon sets herself up in Kang-soo’s room, unpacking all her clothes and multiple handbags. Kang-soo’s understandably surprised to find her there, and she adorably tells him that she’s taking his advice and starting an independent life — she even got a job at a nearby coffee shop. She promises to pay him back for all his kindness after she gets her first paycheck, asking if it’s okay that she stay until she can afford a place of her own.
Kang-soo orders her to get out. Ji-yoon’s chin starts to tremble as she asks why he’s being so mean, and Kang-soo points out that she she barely knows him, so she shouldn’t act like he’s so trustworthy. Plus, she shouldn’t move in with a guy she just met.
Ji-yoon tearfully tells him that she doesn’t see him as “a man” but simply as a good person — the gender isn’t important. Kang-soo sighs, pointing out that there’s no such thing as a purely good person and reiterating that she should leave.
She starts to cry as she gathers her belongings, and Kang-soo hesitantly asks where she plans to go, encouraging her to return home. Still under the belief that Ji-yoon is seventeen years old, Kang-soo says that she should focus on graduating high school. Ji-yoon tearfully asks if the problem with her staying is that she’s a “minor,” and when Kang-soo says it is, Ji-yoon dries her eyes and hauls out her passport.
Stunned, Kang-soo realizes that Ji-yoon is actually twenty-three, like she originally told him. Ji-yoon explains that she’s always followed her mother’s bidding, at least up until a few days ago. Ji-yoon was at the airport, about to head overseas to continue her education for a few years before returning to Korea to marry whomever her mother picked out, when she was overcome by the suffocating feeling that something was wrong. That’s when she decided to run away.
Kang-soo switches to jondaemal (instead of banmal like when he thought she was a teenager), but Ji-yoon tells him that he can still speak to her casually. She then offers to call him “oppa” instead of “ajusshi,” but Kang-soo, undoubtedly thinking of Dan-ah’s sarcastic use of the word, tells her he hates to be called “oppa.” Ha!
Aw, but he does tell Ji-yoon she can stay, provided she leaves the restaurant by 7:00 a.m. and doesn’t return until after 11:00 p.m. That way, no no one will find out she’s living upstairs.
It’s early in the morning when Dan-ah arrives at the English language learning center. She sighs that her greatest wish is to be able to sleep more than six hours, then reminds herself that she can sleep when she’s dead. She spends the morning cleaning the center, a task that allows her to take classes for free.
Before class starts, Dan-ah gets a call from her mother begging for money for Dan-ah’s brother’s college tuition. Dan-ah retorts that he should quit school if he can’t afford it — it’s not like a college degree guarantees a job these days, anyway.
Mom says that she’ll just have to sell her organs in order to get the tuition money. As Dan-ah tries to focus on her studies, Mom sends Dan-ah increasingly dramatic texts about going to get her kidney removed and not even being allowed anesthesia. The way Dan-ah ignores the texts makes me think this is not the first time Mom has asked for money (or has been so dramatic about it).
After class, Dan-ah learns that her landlady is raising the rent by 100,000 won a month. The landlady explains that the price of properties in the neighborhood is increasing. Dan-ah thinks it’s ridiculous that the landlady is asking so much for a place that isn’t exactly in a desirable location, but the landlady dismissively says that if Dan-ah has a problem, then she can just move.
Dan-ah grumbles that the landlady is the epitome of “Hell Joseon,” having sold her morals for houses. Dan-ah angrily adds that she works her butt off to make enough money for rent, but the landlady doesn’t have to do anything when takes Dan-ah’s money, all because the landlady happens to own some property.
Ji-yoon is delighted to start her first day of work at the coffee shop. Her eagerness amuses the other experienced part-timers, and Ji-yoon’s manager reiterates that no matter how rude the customers are, Ji-yoon must be polite or else she’ll be fired.
Ji-yoon’s first customer walks in, and it’s Jin-gyu. Oh boy. It isn’t until she’s handing him back his credit card that he realizes she’s the one who ran over the top of his car.
Even though she recognizes him, Ji-yoon says that he must be mistaken. Jin-gyu’s convinced she’s the same girl, but Ji-yoon’s desperate and apologetic bowing finally makes him drop the issue. Jin-gyu eyes her suspiciously as Ji-yoon nervously makes his cup of coffee.
Dan-ah tries to retrieve something from the restaurant storeroom on the second floor, but when the door is stuck shut, she heads to Kang-soo’s room for a tool to pry open the storage door. The sight of a pink, gauzy garment caught in Kang-soo’s door gives her pause. As she unlocks his room with a master key, Dan-ah stares in wide-eyed surprise at all of Ji-yoon’s clothes, accessories, and cosmetics.
Dan-ah assumes it all belongs to Kang-soo and imagines him wearing the feminine outfits. She tells herself that she should have never hired a crazy guy like Kang-soo in the first place. But then she gets a crafty gleam in her eye, realizing how this information could benefit her.
Ji-yoon’s mother, CEO Jung Hye-ran, looks over photos of Jin-gyu, considering him as her future son-in-law. Even though all the photos make him look like a typical playboy chaebol, Jin-gyu is actually pretty clean-cut, since he’s never had a scandal with a girl or done any drugs. The only questionable thing would be his illegal street racing, but Hye-ran smiles when she hears how competitive and ruthless Jin-gyu can be about racing, assuming he can be taught to be just as competitive and ruthless in business.
Jin-gyu drinks his coffee, still keeping a suspicious eye on Ji-yoon. But when Jin-gyu nearly chokes on an earring in the bottom of his cup, he waves Ji-yoon over to him. She cautiously approaches, gasping in surprise when she realizes he’s holding her missing earring.
She profusely apologizes and offers to make him a new cup, but Jin-gyu demands to see the manager. When the manager arrives, Ji-yoon meekly explains that “this customer” called her over to tell her that he found an earring in his coffee up. When the manager asks where the earring is, Ji-yoon says she doesn’t know.
Jin-gyu looks around in surprise, realizing the earring is no longer on the table where he left it. That’s because when Jin-gyu turned around to flag down the manager, Ji-yoon snatched it off the table and quickly put it back in her ear. Frustrated, Jin-gyu loudly demands that Ji-yoon tell her manager that she put her earring back in while he was distracted. Jin-gyu angrily warns Ji-yoon that he can easily ruin her life.
Ji-yoon starts to bawl as she gasps out exactly what Jin-gyu told her to say: She accidentally dropped her earring in his coffee cup and, when he wasn’t looking, she snatched it from the table in a split-second and put it back in her ear. It’s the truth, of course, but the manager and all the other customers make it clear that they think Jin-gyu is a bully coercing a confession from Ji-yoon.
Ji-yoon drops to her knees, begging for forgiveness. When Jin-gyu realizes that all the other customers are filming and that he’s looking like the bad guy, he tries to rein in his anger as he leaves the coffee shop.
In the back room, Ji-yoon compliments herself on her acting. She tells herself she’s only doing it to survive, but she clearly feels bad about how she’s treated Jin-gyu.
Hye-ran and Jin-gyu’s mother meet for lunch, where Hye-ran suggests that Ji-yoon and Jin-gyu should marry. Hye-ran thinks that she’ll be able to teach Jin-gyu how to be a successful businessman, prepping him to take over the Jung Family corporation since she doesn’t have any faith in Ji-yoon.
Hye-ran is undeterred by Jin-gyu’s mother’s blunt declaration that her son just doesn’t have the acumen. Hye-ran is convinced that, as the son of the ruthless Chairman Oh, Jin-gyu must have business skills in his blood. Jin-gyu’s mother’s “Yeah, right” look is priceless, but Hye-ran won’t be dissuaded.
As Dan-ah and Kang-soo post flyers for the restaurant, she tries to casually bring up the concept of secrets. Kang-soo mostly seems suspicious that Dan-ah is acting friendly towards him, which is when Dan-ah finally mentions the clothes she found in his room.
Shocked, Kang-soo asks how she found out, but Dan-ah promises to keep his secret for 100,000 won a month. Of course, Dan-ah thinks his secret is that he likes to wear women’s clothes, but Kang-soo assumes she’s found out about Ji-yoon living there. At any rate, he agrees to pay, and Dan-ah is happy that her savings won’t take a hit from the rent increase.
Later, when Dan-ah returns home, Gong-gi is waiting for her. He introduces himself and asks that they take a walk together. Haha, she doesn’t budge from her scooter as he starts to walk away, assuming that she’s following him. Gong-gi’s forced to return to her, where he reveals that he’s been protecting her from the other delivery guys (because, per their code, they don’t bother women and children).
Dan-ah’s amused by Gong-gi’s serious warning that she is in danger due to her association with the “psycho” Kang-soo. She tells Gong-gi that she already knows that Gong-gi is crazy, then she suddenly asks Gong-gi if he’s the pervert who’s been stealing her mail and underwear. He awkwardly tries to deny it, but Dan-ah knows it must be him.
She tries to beat him up for his perverted-stalker actions, but Gong-gi’s just as skilled at Hapkido as she is and evades all her attacks. When one of his blocking movements results in his hand on her breast, Dan-ah utilizes her classic kick-to-the-groin to get him to let go. He squeaks out that she’s cheating, but she doesn’t care about how she wins the battle — she just doesn’t want to see him hanging outside her house again.
Even if Gong-gi weren’t infatuated with Dan-ah before, he certainly is now that he’s seen that her Hapkido skills match his. He calls out that he loves her, but she just shoves him, sending him rolling down the hill.
Ji-yoon’s first day of work is over, and she happily skips her way down the sidewalk, thrilled to have made her first real wage. She calculates that she’ll make approximately 800,000 won a month, then stops in her tracks when she realizes that’s not even a third of the cost of the designer goods she’s currently wearing.
Jin-gyu drives up alongside her, still bitter about what happened at the coffee shop. Ji-yoon starts to run down the sidewalk away from him, but Jin-gyu follows until Kang-soo suddenly swerves and stops his motorcycle in front of Jin-gyu’s car.
Kang-soo goes into full protective mode as Jin-gyu dismissively says he was just messing around. Kang-soo is ready to fight Jin-gyu, but Ji-yoon says that she’ll take care of it. She profusely apologizes to Jin-gyu, begging him to accept her apology since she doesn’t have any money.
She then warns Jin-gyu that if he causes a problem, she’ll have her “guardian” Kang-soo take care of him. Ji-yoon holds onto Kang-soo’s arm as she proudly warns Jin-gyu that Kang-soo is a really good fighter. Annoyed, but knowing he doesn’t really have a choice, Jin-gyu gets in his car and drives away.
Later, Kang-soo meets up with his buddies and fixes their delivery scooter. One of them, Hyun-soo, is the grandson of the ox bone soup restaurant owner — what a small world. Hyun-soo says that if Kang-soo’s restaurant is hiring drivers, he’d like a job there.
Kang-soo asks Hyun-soo why he left his hometown to work in Seoul, leaving his mother to live alone. Hyun-soo grumbles that he never got along with his mother, since she nagged him too much. Kang-soo smacks Hyun-soo upside the head in an annoyed, brotherly way, pointing out that some people should be so lucky to have a mother who nagged them for twenty years.
Kang-soo orders Hyun-soo to visit his supposedly nagging mother, and Hyun-soo agrees, especially if it will make Kang-soo stop being angry at him. Aw, the two of them have such a nice hyung/dongsaeng dynamic.
Hyun-soo keeps to his promise, but as he drives to see his mother on his delivery scooter, he speeds through a yellow light and then crashes. A taxi driver tries to rush Hyun-soo to the hospital, but the road is blocked due to construction, so the driver is forced to go a longer way around.
Except the road isn’t really blocked due to construction, but for illegal street racing. Jin-gyu challenges another chaebol with a fancy race car, and soon the two of them are zooming down the closed-off road to the cheers of the fans watching them. Jin-gyu easily wins the race. Unbeknownst to him and the rest of the street racing crowd, they’re being secretly filmed.
The next day, Jin-gyu happily hands over the promised bonuses to his car guys. As they’re celebrating, Kang-soo walks in with a delivery. Jin-gyu’s mood drops, but it’s not like Kang-soo is thrilled to see him, either.
Footage of the illegal street race has been leaked, but Chairman Oh’s people have managed to block it from being released to news sites. The public would have a field day if it was discovered that chaebols were illegally blocking off roads, and Chairman Oh’s company would be dragged through the mud once it’s discovered that Jin-gyu was involved.
Jin-gyu arrives at his father’s office, unsure why he’s been called there. Sensing that something seems off, Jin-gyu cheerfully suggests a round of golf. Chairman Oh agrees and retrieves a golf club. Jin-gyu ruefully smiles to himself as he realizes what’s going on: “Ah, I’m the golf ball, aren’t I?”
Chairman Oh beats Jin-gyu with the golf club, and it’s brutal enough that Jin-gyu can’t stand up when it’s over. But even sprawled out on the floor, Jin-gyu still maintains his composure as Chairman Oh orders his son to never appear in front of him again. Furious, Chairman Oh says that Jin-gyu should just find a way to quietly die.
Jin-gyu tries to hide his emotions as he says that he’ll think about it, but his face momentarily crumples when Chairman Oh pats him on the back one final time before ordering the security guards to drag Jin-gyu away.
Dan-ah gets ready to leave the restaurant after closing, all the while happily teasing Kang-soo about the “upstairs” secret. But her face falls when she sees her younger brother waiting for her. Dan-ah’s brother pleads with her to give him the tuition money he needs, promising he won’t lose his scholarship again.
Dan-ah resolutely refuses to give him money, though. She points out that all the good jobs go to the top graduates of the elite colleges, and that he doesn’t stand a chance with a degree from a no-name college. Dan-ah once again rails against Korea’s socioeconomic system where her brother is virtually guaranteed to end up like his parents, forever struggling to get out of debt.
If she has to help out her family every time they need money, then she’ll never be able to escape the system, either. Dan-ah stands to leave, fighting back tears as she tells her brother he no longer has a sister and she no longer has a family.
Kang-soo goes through Ji-yoon’s belongings, finding her phone. He turns it on and tries to figure out her passcode, but his phone rings instead. It’s one of his delivery buddies, telling him that Hyun-soo was in an accident. Kang-soo speeds to the hospital, where an unconscious Hyun-soo is in ICU. Hyun-soo’s mother and grandmother tearfully sit by Hyun-soo’s bedside.
Meanwhile, Jin-gyu gets drunk at the empty car repair shop, calling himself an idiot for being caught racing. He staggers out, leaving his phone behind, unaware that his brother is trying to reach him.
Jin-gyu stands on the edge of a bridge, trying to convince himself to do the honorable thing and kill himself, just like his father ordered him to. He tries to count down to his final leap, but can’t bring himself to let go no matter how many times he desperately repeats “one.”
Dan-ah, passing by during her early morning commute, spots him and hurries over, yelling at him to climb over to the other side of the guardrail. She tries to help him, but due to his drunkenness, he slips.
Dan-ah clings to Jin-gyu’s hand as he dangles from the bridge. Jin-gyu pleads with her to save him as she struggles to hold onto him, but Dan-ah isn’t strong enough and her feet lose their balance, sending the both of them over the side and into the river below. As they splash into the water, a flashback reveals that Dan-ah once stood at that very same bridge, contemplating suicide.
Epilogue. A teenage Dan-ah holds a knife against a loan shark’s throat, promising to pay him back and warning him that she’ll kill him if he ever tries to harm her family again. Later, she packs a bag and heads out. Her mother follows, begging Dan-ah not to go.
But Dan-ah is frustrated that her mother, who’s hard worked every day of her life and yet she doesn’t even have 10,000,000 won saved up to pay off a loan. Dan-ah vows to never live like her mother. Teenaged Dan-ah literally rips up her college dreams as she rides the train to Seoul — and she happens to be only a few seats away from a young Kang-soo.
COMMENTS
Just like I’d hoped, we’re getting more information about our characters’ true goals and why they act the way they do. While Dan-ah seems tough and ruthless, the epilogue reveals that she gave up on going to college so she could work to pay off her family’s debt. Even if she paid back the original loan within the six month deadline, that leaves four-and-a-half years where she’s been working tirelessly in her determined effort to save up enough money to have a new start. If she continues to help bail out her family, then she’s essentially dooming herself to forever live in a minimum-wage hell where there’s no real escape. It’s no wonder, then, that she finally had to decide to cut them out of her life.
Which seems harsh, but it’s not like any of our characters are perfect, anyway. They all have their failings that could make them difficult to root for as a “hero,” but their rough edges are actually what makes me love them even more, since it makes them that more relatable. Even though I feel Dan-ah is a little extreme at times with using force to get guys to leave her alone, I have to remind myself that she experiences potential sexual assault every day while making her deliveries, so she’s probably learned to have a very, very low threshold of what she’ll tolerate from someone.
On a lighter note, I love that Ji-yoon takes such joy in her independence. At first I was worried her cheerfulness would immediately disappear once she discovered that minimum-wage work is a thankless, hard job. But she definitely seems to be made of much stronger stuff than a constantly cheerful attitude. If Ji-yoon did ever decide to turn her attention to business like her mother originally wanted, she could be pretty ruthless. Which means her mother should have more faith in Ji-yoon instead of trying to put all her eggs in the questionable basket of Jin-gyu’s supposedly latent business skills.
It’s interesting that one of the main threads tying all our characters together is this idea of “survival.” Dan-ah is trying to get through each day without too many creepy guys leering at her so she can tick off another day on her “escape to America” countdown. Kang-soo just wants to go two months without incident so he can mark off another section on his map. Ji-yoon is, perhaps, the most excited about surviving since it now promises more freedom than being her mother’s obedient robot. As for Jin-gyu, well, his will to survive was even stronger than his drunken and depressed determination to kill himself.
Another universal thread is the loss of family. Whether it’s by choice (such as Dan-ah disowning her family or Ji-yoon running away from home) or circumstances (such as Kang-soo’s father dying and his mother abandoning him or Jin-gyu being literally tossed out on the street), all four of the main characters are adrift, floating along the best they can. I’m fully expecting a begrudging “found family” to emerge between them. I don’t know exactly how those friendships will come to fruition, though, since Jin-gyu will have hell to pay once Kang-soo realizes that the reason Hyun-soo is in ICU is because it took so long to get him to the hospital due to the illegally blocked road.
But I expect that Jin-gyu will imprint on Dan-ah just as much as Ji-yoon has imprinted on Kang-soo, and I’m already giggling thinking about the exasperated delivery drivers dealing with their respective clueless ex-chaebols. Kang-soo and Dan-ah may have had a five-year head start on how to live an independent life, but I have a feeling that Ji-yoon and Jin-gyu will be fast learners. I hope, anyway.
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1 Rachela
August 9, 2017 at 8:06 PM
I loved this show already and the second episode definitely solidified it. Initially I was a little annoyed about the chaebol characters but now that I kind of see where they're going with them I'm excited for the story. :) :) :)
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Rainbow Unicorn
August 9, 2017 at 9:10 PM
My absolute fav was that he won his bowls back because of his strong will and not cuz he had strong fists!!
Strong willed characters are my favourite and Yayy for realistic-ish characters. Such welcome relief from the standard hero always wins fist-fights!
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Rainbow Unicorn
August 9, 2017 at 9:12 PM
Oh and cheery Ji-yoon with her awesome "method acting" was sooo cute & brilliant too! :)
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2 hannaehh
August 9, 2017 at 8:18 PM
I understand Dan Ah's financial situation when this drama shows her backstory. But I just don't like the way she gets away from her increase in rent by blackmailing Kang Soo by keeping his secret. Even if he does have weird taste of liking to wear girls clothes, why is it a secret that he needs to be ashamed of? Don't get me wrong, I don't hate her. I like that she's tough, but no one is perfect and she has her own bad side, which is interesting to see if she'd tone down a lil bit if she's associated to Kang Soo as he seems to have a good faith in people and mostly see a bright side of thing.
Anyway, Jin Gyu's dad seem to be even wicked that I thought he'd be. Asking your son to die is way too much. And the suicide attempt at the bridge scene is kinda weird when he asks Dah Ah to save him. Dude has two hands, and he's just using his one hand holding onto Dan Ah's hand without even trying to lift up his other hand to hold onto the bridge whatsoever.
I'm still warming up to this drama, and I'll give it a try until episode 6. I hope it gets better.
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 8:41 PM
@the two hands thing. I THOUGHT THE SAME. Just had to pin it on dramaland shenanigans (like that bloody fire extinguisher in Lookout)... they had to fall off the bridge because mA dRAMA. :P
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giocare
August 9, 2017 at 8:51 PM
Will never forget that moment? There were so many possible things she could've done to save herself
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 8:52 PM
I will never be over the Fire Extinguisher Incident haha
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giocare
August 9, 2017 at 8:50 PM
I didn't understand why they had to fall off the bridge
1. Couldn't they have died??
2. It seemed pointless ESPECIALLY when Jin Gyu said HE CANT SWIM
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 8:51 PM
1. Yes. But they won't cos this is episode 2.
2. Drama... *shrugs*
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hades
August 10, 2017 at 4:14 AM
1. In drama land, no main character tends to die falling off a bridge yet most side characters or plot driving character do.
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mehitable
August 9, 2017 at 8:53 PM
I think that between the blackmail and telling her brother that she is no longer his sister, we see that making money and leaving Korea is turning from her top priority to her only one, from a goal to an obsession. She is at the cusp of sacrificing all personal relationships to that obsession, and at risk of losing herself. Narratively, it's a great place to begin a character arch. :)
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 8:58 PM
^^^ your last line. Yes. I'm looking forward to her character development and what she will decide to stay for, if anything.
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meowingme
August 9, 2017 at 11:23 PM
Totally agreeing with your point of view here, and about the "chosen families" on previous ep.
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redoy21
August 9, 2017 at 11:27 PM
Wow !! Thats very nice to explain her character. She is already my favourite character but this makes me love her more. Thanks.
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Miky
August 10, 2017 at 3:56 AM
I was actually glad she didn't give into her family emotional blackmail and give them money again...They look like the type to look for her to get money,how convinient that they know she has it....it would be the brother then next another thing,sounds hursh but that's how i see them,mooching her...Pretty much all the presented parents aew ''gems''.i bet the greedy women is Kang Soo's so called Mom...
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hades
August 10, 2017 at 4:48 AM
The epilogue was amazingly good character development. The gal of her family to ask that she sacrifice herself again was heartbreaking.
If anybody saw School 2017 this week, there was a moment with Dae-hwi that reminded me of this a bit.
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alua
August 10, 2017 at 1:14 AM
<even if he does have weird taste of liking to wear girls clothes, why is it a secret that he needs to be ashamed of?
Because in kdramas if LGTB issues (or in this case cross-dressing) get mentioned at all, they are always the butt of the joke.
It's just a 'grand' misunderstanding, because HE thinks she realised that he has a girl staying there, SHE thinks he has cross-dressing habit and that's apparently funny. NOT. :-/
And what's even worse, her blackmailing it isn't even worth it – her countdown is only affected by a handful of days. If it were a matter of that it would delay her departure by months, I could maybe see it as her totally despairing and resorting to desperate means but we're talking mere DAYS which in the long run will make no difference at all, so this is just plain nasty on her part.
Jingyu's dad is horrible, but I struggle to master up much sympathy for Jinguy because I don't think he's very well written (nor does the actor add anything to the character in the way some other actors would). The guy has got options to escape his horrible situation, but it seems like he wants them served to him on a silver platter – like it's Dan Ah's job to save him, he won't even lift up his hand because it's all on her (because, you know, he's superior to all these lesser beings around him). He could also just leave his family, because it's not like he has no access to money (he could sell his cars, use money from his brother, etc) or he could even go Jinyoo's way – get a job. Now, it's hard for abused people to leave their abusers, but unfortunately the drama's writing isn't at a level where they are managing to convey the complex mental/emotional struggle of abuse victims. I almost feel like there are two characters that just don't combine: chaebol-Jin Gyu and abused Jin Gyu.
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pigsnout
August 10, 2017 at 1:39 AM
Yeah it's not nice to use cross dressing as a joke thing to blackmail people over, but Dan Ah doing it like that made me like her less. But it's strange that we judge her for her violent and bratty personality while Jin Gyu get more sympathy. I agree that some of it is from the actors, I mentioned Heirs yesterday and Kim Woo Bin also played an awful character there but the story and he admit that he was awful, unlike what they did with Kim Tan. Also KWB was better at making me feel for or understand his character.
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hannaehh
August 10, 2017 at 1:48 AM
It's interesting how you put that it's "Dan Ah's job to save him" which is why he didn't lift up his hand. You're right, he's just a stuck up character who's been living on silver platter which is why he doesn't even think of leaving his family yet no matter how much he's been abused because he's not willing to give up all the luxury that he's owned.
It's kinda hard to love any character in this drama as everyone has their own bad side, but to me, it's the reality of human being. No one is purely nice and innocent anymore. I take this drama as the journey of all four of them to become a better human being.
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alua
August 10, 2017 at 2:40 AM
I'm all for flawed, human characters, but so far the writing is black & white to me, not complicated shades of grey that I need to sympathise/relate to even the most flawed characters. If the writing & acting are good, I can feel for even the worst of characters (think Forest of Secret's Yoon, I Can Hear You's villain, Chae Soo Bin's character in Sassy Go Go etc.).
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hades
August 10, 2017 at 4:34 AM
I think if you factor in what Korea has been portrayed as in other dramas you can formulate your own "grey" area in this drama. That is to say, you could consider deference to authority as the reason why Jin-gyu didn't oppose his dad. You could also consider the possibility that he's accepted being the black sheep of the family and may have gotten beatings like this or has been broken down to this point of acceptance. I think it might be too early to pass sentence on Jin-gyu. Who knows, we might get some more information later on as to why he hasn't left yet, or his current situation is the spring board he needs to become a better person.
I think for an episode 2, they have done a pretty good job with character development--especially considering that this is a K-drama. We have 4 characters to work with. You usually don't even get this type of character development for 2 characters this early, let alone 4.
pogo
August 10, 2017 at 9:27 AM
Literally the only characters I'm finding even remotely tolerable are Dan-ah (yes, it's unpleasant and regressive of her to be blackmailing Kang-soo for supposed cross-dressing, but I have to give Chae Soo-bin credit for making her watchable), and Ji-yoon (that moment snatching the earrning out of the coffee cup made me like her more than all the naive 'I will work hard' Candy attitude she's had so far - she acted to save her skin, and it's only a small bonus that she showed up the unpleasant Jin-gyu while she was at it).
I'm just puzzled by why Jin-gyu is getting a pass here. I mean, like one of the comments pointed out, he's the worst of Kim Tan and Choi Young-do rolled into one, and as for character development, all the dramas you named did it way better when it came to establishing early on why their characters might act that way. I'm getting none of that off Jin-gyu, like you pointed out it really feels like his chaebol side and his abused-son side don't mix.
alua
August 10, 2017 at 11:01 AM
@hades
<especially considering that this is a K-drama
I just can't set my bar this low and excuse mediocre writing like that.
I disagree with you that the character development has been "pretty good" so far. Even with 4 characters, you can do better in just 2 episodes and you don't need to rely mostly on clichés.
@pogo Yeah, I don't know why Jin-gyu is getting a pass by many or how he's not the 'usual chaebol'....???
CatoCat
August 10, 2017 at 7:00 AM
She seriously thought about firing him because he cross-dress. wow. Then she uses it to blackmail him. Her violent streak is another matter of concern.
She had to learn Hapkido to get away from all these creepy-guys fine but in epilogue she is already beating loan-sharks( maybe she learned it earlier). Everyone knows how loan-sharks work and she made it look like they are the villains. Her character gives a of of mary-sue vibes.
I actually find Jin-Gyu more interesting character. He isn't your usual cheobal. I'll ignore that foolish bridge scene because i've seen it happening in many asian dramas. On family and fiances front i agree with you. The guy has no will or any ambition. I think that's what makes him different to typical cheobals. They way he take everything his father spits and so far he hasn't shown that typical loud behaviour of a cheobal.
Drama is fun but it does have weak writing. It clearly lacks emotional pull.
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pogo
August 10, 2017 at 9:18 AM
I'm honestly wondering, how is Jin-gyu not your usual chaebol? Because he has a terrible dad? Or because he behaves like an entitled jerk (with Kang-soo and now Ji-yoon)? He's pretty much the chaebol cliche come to life.
I find Dan-ah's apparent competence at hapkido more believable (given she actually needs it on the job) than the idea that we're supposed to feel sorry for manchild Jin-gyu.
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chingu
August 10, 2017 at 10:28 PM
Omg, YES, about Jin-gyu's extra hand! I definitely stopped hyperventilating to wonder why he just left his arm hanging down and NOT try to grab hold of the railing. Like, DUDE, use your other hand! Help HER help YOU! Other than that little blunder, oh man, Jin-gyu hurt my heart in this ep. I can't wait for his character development.
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3 blnmom
August 9, 2017 at 8:20 PM
Man, Jingyu's dad is brutal. Jingyu isn't the greatest kid ever, but nobody deserves that.
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hades
August 10, 2017 at 4:41 AM
There are so many problems with Jin-gyu's beating.
1. Jin-gyu's wanted to vent on his son. He got that satisfaction with a gulf club which could arguably have resulted in the death of his son.
2. After he vented he then told his son he should go kill himself. He has another son to take over the business right?
3. He totally embarrassed his son by having his dragged out the building and thrown on the street. This on is so freaking hypocritical it's not even funny. The father is embarrassed by the shame is son has caused, but is not shamed by publicly throwing out his beaten son.
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4 sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM
I wanted to punch Jin Gyu's dad through the laptop screen when he said that... that wouldn't've been a good idea though, so good thing for my laptop I didn't...
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5 giocare
August 9, 2017 at 8:48 PM
They're all so lonely :( And they've been this way probably for their whole lives, what a terrible thing that is. Never would've I expected Jin Guy's dad to beat him like that then discard him like a piece of trash. That moment where he realized "I'm the golf ball" spoke to how much he's endured all these years and how he just pretends like it doesn't hurt. Man I just really want to give all of them hugs.
On a side note I ship everyone with everyone (especially Kang Soo x Ji Yoon and Jin Dyu x Dan Ah) and that earring scene had laughing so much. What a great way to get out of an awkward situation.. just cry until they feel bad.
$500 for rent?? What a steal. It's $1000+ per bedroom in my city. But Dan ah's blackmail of Kang Soo is downright wrong and shouldn't be tolerated. Didn't she want to fire him? Are there laws in Korea protecting people who identify as LGBT?
P.S. Will someone get into an accident each episode? The one in this episode was so obvious.. he was smiling too much
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 8:51 PM
But like... you know the end ships are gonna be the opposite...
1000+ per bedroom per... month? Where do you live? (Sorry I'm just curious cos I live in a place with the highest real estate and rent prices in my country so I wanna compare hah)
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giocare
August 9, 2017 at 8:52 PM
I live in New York City
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 8:56 PM
Ahhh.
Yeah it's about 1000+ a month here too... But these are places known for being expensive to live in.
I don't know what the average rent in Seoul is irl, but if she's on a low income 500 a month is 125 a week... and that's not the cheapest it could be, not for what, a 1 room rooftop place like she's in? That's daylight robbery for what she's getting. $90 a week would be cheap.
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giocare
August 9, 2017 at 8:54 PM
I know the end ships will be different but the heart wants what the heart cannot have
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 8:57 PM
Indeed hahaha
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gypsea
August 11, 2017 at 10:47 PM
on the same sad ship...><
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Rainbow Unicorn
August 9, 2017 at 9:20 PM
Well at least Kang-Soo has really loyal friends so he is not completely lonely the way the other 3 seem to be. (I know Dan-ah has that yoga teacher friend..but not yet clear if Dan-ah reciprocally values the friendship)
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chingu
August 10, 2017 at 10:47 PM
Ha, I ship everyone with everyone, too! When Jin-gyu and Ji-yoon kept running into each other, I was like, "I can't wait for them to start liking each other!" But then when Dan-ah came to Jin-gyu's rescue at the end, I was like, "Omg, I ship this, too!" What to do!? I'm supposed to dislike Jin-gyu, but I blame it on the actor playing his role for being so darn likable. I know end game's gonna be Kang-soo and Dan-ah and Ji-yoon and Jin-gyu, but I'd be just as happy if it turns out to be like your pairing above, too. Hee.
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chingu
August 10, 2017 at 11:15 PM
Oh, and yes, I KNEW Hyun-soo would get run over. I just KNEW it! When he told his friends he was gonna go home to visit his mom, I was like, "Aw, okay, that's sweet," but then I was like, "If they show him driving, then that's it." And whaddya know! How he cried out to his mom when he was dying in the back of the taxi (thank goodness for that taxi driver, btw), after talking about not wanting to come home because of her nagging, just breaks my heart. Kang-soo's words was a sad foreshadowing, man. I really hope Hyun-soo makes it out alive--for everyone's sake. I don't hate Jin-gyu (I actually kinda like him, but it's really the actor that I find very likable, despite him being a total jerkwad most of the time), so I wouldn't want any more reasons for me to dislike him more than I already kinda do.
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6 pjk
August 9, 2017 at 8:51 PM
This epilogue was so sad :-(
For a second, I thought Dan-Ah was an orphan.
I don't understand how her mom asked her if she could borrow all the money she raised up for her brother's tuition after all that, and her reaction after her daughter refused. So petty.
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Miky
August 10, 2017 at 3:59 AM
I'm glad she didn't give into their emotinal blackmail abd told them point not to look for her anymore
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pogo
August 10, 2017 at 9:33 AM
Some parents are utter leeches, and it's not unheard of for them to demand everything of an older child to cater to the wants of a younger child. Looks like Dan-ah's family is one of those.
The thing I found really shameless was
a) They're demanding that she pay for his college tuition - when she herself never had the chance to go to college at all
b) The brother shows up himself and admits he lost his scholarship because he put socialising first. The cheek of saying that to a sister who's had no college and who has no social life, while you have your hand out for her hard-earned money..... I'm glad she didn't give in.
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Miky
August 15, 2017 at 12:04 PM
Indeed,i bet the Mom told the son to go there himself to somehow blackmail her on an emotional level as she clearly saw her tactic didn't work and she was ignoring her calls after their conversation and thought he will make her accept...Found it very shameless to call after all that time saying she has money(so they clearly knew/found out) so she needs to "help" her brother with that not caring at all about her well being,if she is alright,nights of effort to get that money and so on and expecting her to do it...Glad she keep it strong and told him off
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7 elric
August 9, 2017 at 8:55 PM
After my disappointment with Fight for My Way, I'm a little hesitant in getting attached with Strongest Deliveryman. They are similar in some aspects minus the childhood friends romance, and it was the romance that actual made me drop it.
But so far, I like how this show is purely about the characters' struggle and how they are trying to escape from them. I can't wait to see how each of their lives intertwine. For now, I'm treading lightly and wishing for some bromance/friendship between Jin-gyu and Kang-soo.
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byeol
August 9, 2017 at 9:48 PM
I haven't watch FFMY yet because I still have tons of kdramas on my bucket but I'm considering it since lots of my friends are liking it (even compelling me to watch it already lol) . I'm into the slice of life theme but I am kinda skeptical with the romance.. your remark that you're disappointed about it made me curious *
I hope Strongest Deliveryman don't disappoint, the first 2 episodes are solid atleast for me
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toramona
August 9, 2017 at 11:38 PM
FMW was amazing. I still revisited it. Mmm if you have friends that are recommending it I'd say give it a try. It's a endearing slice of life show. You'll probably know how you feel within the first episode.
Strongest Deliveryman version of slice of life is a bit harsher but I really liked it after the 2nd episode.
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elric
August 10, 2017 at 7:46 AM
The romance in Fight for My Way is adorable and I would have stayed solely for it. But tastes change. I loved the first few episodes but after 8 episodes, I expected more than just cute romance. I prefer my slice of life to be low key on the romance and I wasn't getting enough of them "fighting for their way".
It's a personal preference really and it wouldn't hurt to try it. As I say, the first few episodes are a treat but it will still be your choice to continue on watching.
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giocare
August 9, 2017 at 9:58 PM
In Fight for My Way did the romance overshadow the characters struggles?
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toramona
August 9, 2017 at 11:34 PM
Nope. There were two romantic pairings. One pairing had them encouraging each other with their struggles. The other pairing had their relationship actually be one of their biggest struggles. It's a pretty great show.
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CatoCat
August 10, 2017 at 7:04 AM
Meh is literally crap but here we have better storyline and characters need some polishing. Overall product is looking good. Real test of any kdrama starts from 3rd week. And i hope this drama won't take too makjang path.
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8 meowingme
August 9, 2017 at 8:56 PM
So far going to the epilogues was like switching into a makjang drama, am glad to have the backstory but does it have to be that tragic..?
Dan-ah is definitely not your standard sunshiney candy girl, but I do get why she is the way she is now. Ji-yoon kinda strike me off as manipulative, but she's so cute I can't get mad at her action. Jin-gyu is pathetic but endearing at the same time, and Kang-soo is almost perfect ^^ The way he respected Ji-yoon is lovely to watch!
Agree with @odilettante comment about the same thread of "family" in our main characters, and found it interesting that they are standing on their opposite in their attitude. Kang-soo doesn't have a family, and he ends up caring very much about people and familial relationship; Dan-ah has an awful family, so she refuses to care about anybody else but herself. Jin-gyu already gave up on trying to please his family; Ji-yoon always tried to please her family but (am guessing) in a passive-aggressive way so she ends up running away from them in the end. If the show is all about them changing each other by interacting together, I will be watching faithfully!
I do hate the chaebol mom and dad tho, their evilness is over the top and they seem to exist just to be villains, hmmph.
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Rainbow Unicorn
August 9, 2017 at 9:23 PM
Oh yes.. the tragicness of their backstories is soo cliched ! but I guess that's the hallmark of kdrama-ness - a neccessity cuz apparently our heroes cant be heroes until their personalities have been moulded by some deeply traumatising event in childhood!
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9 Pickwick12
August 9, 2017 at 9:05 PM
Absolutely loved this ep. The show feels warm and humane even when it's dealing with dark subject matter and imperfect protagonists. It's not exactly what I expected, but I really dig what it's turning out to be.
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10 Lord Cobol
August 9, 2017 at 9:12 PM
So did Ji-yoon move WITHOUT THE TRADITIONAL ONE SUITCASE!? Is she even Korean??
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Rainbow Unicorn
August 9, 2017 at 9:24 PM
Hahahaha! She more than made up for it by instead showing her chaelbol-ness... all the designer bags, cosmetics and teddy bear being most vital for her survival! Lolol
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wakimary
August 9, 2017 at 10:39 PM
She couldn't even walk properly with that big teddy bear while holding onto the shopping bags
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chingu
August 10, 2017 at 10:29 AM
HA, with the way she set that one shopping bag down on the bench oh so conveniently, to show the brand on the bag, I just assumed that was just another excuse for PPL.
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11 Lord Cobol
August 9, 2017 at 9:40 PM
So in Dan-ah-land, unlike Republican-land, it's the GUYS who have to keep their knees together?
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Cocobeans
August 10, 2017 at 7:21 AM
Well hello your lordship, always nice to see your name in the comment section *weve* i tend to agree with her on the closing leggs a little, in the literal sense. Every day while commuting to work i have to either squees onto a train bench where the guy next to me has his legs open so wide that there is either no room left for me (on e 3 seater bench!) or one who is sitting across from me with his legs open ,gving me a generous look at the crown jewels. Not my favorite way to start my morning. For some strange reason, my legs do seem to twich ,causing some invollentary "kicking spasm". I hold back...for now..but one day..the bells will ring..(for info.in my country /area we call male genetalia "klokkenspel" - it's slang from the german glockenspiel/carrilon - hence the bell remark) :) i don't expect them to sit prissy but; may i ask of men, in name of all poor woman on public transport to at least lessen the gap :) :)
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Cocobeans
August 10, 2017 at 7:22 AM
darn spelling errors, sorry :)
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12 Amilia
August 9, 2017 at 9:45 PM
So far, the poor little rich girl is my favorite character. This is a first for me. I love the manipulative female second lead??? Yes. Yes, I freakin do.
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byeol
August 9, 2017 at 9:58 PM
I love her too! She got me in that restaurant scene, lol so clever. "The world is a jungle, I have to survive" then she goes all sorry to the what she did to him again. She's lovable..
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13 cozybooks
August 9, 2017 at 9:51 PM
I swear, if his friend really dies... I don't know if I can root for our cocky chaebol then, no matter how much I may pity his family situation. Gaaaaah why am I already so attached to all these characters???
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Lord Cobol
August 9, 2017 at 10:02 PM
Perhaps because the show is as manipulative as Ji-yoon? Clever, cute and adorable too, but mostly good at messing with your head.
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byeol
August 9, 2017 at 10:02 PM
Nooo, I hope he won't die. Please. Same.. This show already hold a special place in my heart being the first drama to get me attached to the four characters by just the first two hours. How they did it?
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pigsnout
August 10, 2017 at 1:30 AM
Same here. I'm finding it so hard to like the guy anyway, but he does these things to flaunt his status and doesn't even seem to think that it was wrong or he should be sorry.
Look at it, he got beaten by his dad and told to die, but what about the guy who could actually die as a result of his actions?
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14 Onion 316
August 9, 2017 at 10:09 PM
At this point I am having a hard time liking anyone in this show. While I do appreciate the stories and motivations behind each character, does the tragedy within each of their lives justify all of this reprehensible behavior? Ji-yoon is the least irritating. She may be cute, but she's manipulative as all get out. Unless I see some kind of light at the end of the tunnel soon, this whole show and these characters are just too dark for my taste.
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 10:41 PM
It doesn't justify it, it just creates a reason for it. It doesn't necessarily make it right but that's what makes them human and if we're shown why we can try and understand them better, even if we don't agree with it. Motivation does not equal justification.
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Onion 316
August 10, 2017 at 6:16 AM
In real life, yes. When it comes to drama, that justification includes me, the viewer. My implied question is why should I spend 16 hours with these people? I haven't been given a justification for that yet. If I don't soon I won't be spending 16 hours with these characters.
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15 Lord Cobol
August 9, 2017 at 10:20 PM
Subs in the version I saw had Dan-ah telling her brother "Helping out siblings is something people who have money do."
Not really. Check out the following link:
https://arstechnica.com/science/2015/02/the-powerful-cheat-for-themselves-the-powerless-cheat-for-others/
The first sentence is "Research has previously shown that upper-class individuals are more likely to behave unethically than lower-class people", which is one of the most depressing sentences ever, and also explains a LOT, like how some of them got to me upper class in the first place.
Then it goes on to say it's not quite like that.
Seems that unlike previous studies that only tested which people would cheat to get something for themselves, the newer study also tested which people would cheat to help OTHER PEOPLE (like "Who should we make the gift certificate out to?". Turns out high & low status people were about equally likely to cheat, but low status people were more likely to cheat to get a prize for someone else, while high-status people were more likely to cheat for their own benefit.
Another choice line from that article:
"Past research has shown that powerless people think that working for the welfare of others is the highest moral value, while powerful people care more about rules and order." Like rules to keep the poor people in their place.
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sicarius
August 9, 2017 at 10:40 PM
Robin Hood syndrome, mmm. Makes sense. (idk if that's an actual syndrome btw I just used it as an describing noun , not a scientific word haha)
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Cocobeans
August 10, 2017 at 7:51 AM
That does comply a little with a talk i had once with a psychologist. It seems people from poor families tend to stick together. So when one of them has money or does better he/she will invest that small amount almost right away into his familly to help them / give them a treat, thereby not building up an emergency fund that could help themselves go to university/help in emergency/long term thinking. so these people tend to stay poor because, like the king crabs in the barrel, they drag eachother back down (not always intentionally, most of the time the people getting dragged down let it be because out of love and the famillies do not realise they are causing there loved ones to stay static). Those who decided to become selfish or break from their families did well for themselves most of the time and became "well off". Is it a kindness to always bail others out?
Will that not mean that they will then start taking it for granted and continue to make bad decisions, knowing someone else will always help on either a conscious of sub conscious level?
I guess she meant (Dan -Ah) to say that this is something people with money can do without putting their own future or comfort at risk.
Is it wrong for her to choose herself over her brother? after al, she managed to do well on her own while her brother could not even hack it with her help , that of the parents and his own effort. His excuse for losing his scholarship (free meal!) that he played around because otherwise he was a social outcast is useless, his poor sister, from working hard al that time, is on her own too, even more then him.
So why would someone with the potential to succeed in life have to give up her future for someone who can not even make it after several tries ,even with the support of parents and siblings? Is it worth it to be hundreds of thousands of won/dollar/pounds in debt from school fees if even after that you can not even land a decent job and are still paying of your student loan debt at the age of 40?
What is so wrong indeed with a regular job such as delivery or cleaning, these people get underestimated but to me , plumbers, builders, sanitation people,etc are the corner stone of our society. You will need an office cleaner a lot more during your working life then you will need a surgeon (i hope, blessing al beanies with long life and good health)
long story just to say that i sort of understand people choosing themselves over others sometimes and i understand her perspective about society only thinking rich, educated, high salary people are worth it and not wanting to become a part of it anymore, not by the rules "they" determine.
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16 redoy21
August 9, 2017 at 11:24 PM
Yup this show has the potential to be one of my favourite ! I love all the character arcs and the story . It has a very funny and a serious which they are balancing it very nicely. Its not that easy to pull that off.
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17 Ahj ❤ ❥ ♡ ♥ ღ
August 9, 2017 at 11:35 PM
Ji Yoon is a genius in the cafe scene. I like her!
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18 Zeyfi
August 9, 2017 at 11:38 PM
Doe anyone Think There could be a loveline between Ji-yoon and jin-gyu??that would be so great?
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toramona
August 9, 2017 at 11:43 PM
Doesn't that seem like it would be the end game?
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sicarius
August 10, 2017 at 1:21 AM
They're the second leads sooo... yes?
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alua
August 10, 2017 at 2:26 AM
There will be. Kang-Soo and Da-Nah have very clearly been set up as the OTP and Jin Yoon and Jin Gyu as the other couple, according to all kdrama rules I know of:
1) They meet first (and clashed) and met again (and keep clashing).
2) They are on the same train to Seoul.
3) Kang Soo and Ji Yoon cohabiting is normally an OTP situation, but so far the drama has laid out pieces that they are potentially half-siblings, which would make this situation acceptable in kdramaland.
4) Ji Yoon and Jin Gyu have clashed, so again, that's setting up a pairing. Reinforced by their parents scheming to get them together (which is going to mean that they'll resist this at first because of their past conflict, but will eventually end up together).
There's probably more signs, but these are the ones I can think of on the top of my head and I have no reason to think right now that this writer is one of the rule-breaking, innovative ones.
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Miky
August 10, 2017 at 4:04 AM
More than sure.i bet she is Kang Soo's step sis...
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19 toramona
August 9, 2017 at 11:47 PM
Really liked this episode it built well on the first.
I'm super curious as to wear this show is going. What are you going to be show?
Side Notes:
*all the traffic and any moving vehicle makes me nervous on this show
*I didn't need another Hye-ran in my life.
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20 isa
August 10, 2017 at 12:33 AM
One of the best things I've learned so far in life is that the best part of being an adult is choosing who you allow to be in your life. If your family sucks? Cut them out. You, and you alone are responsible for your own happiness. You can't wait and depend on other people to make you happy and then complain when they don't. They are looking out for their best interests---you look out for yours. With that said, I didn't mind that Dan-ah decided to kick her family out of her life. It was a hard decision but from where she's standing--she's doing what she has to do to survive. If every time these people can't make their ends meet they call her (and this is a burden that she's been bearing since high school?)--then, no. They don't need to be a part of her life and she doesn't deserve to be dragged down by them or to feel guilty (although it looks like she's already feeling guilty for turning her brother away) about deciding to put her own needs first. So, that aspect of the show and Dan Ah I have no problems with at all (I've brutally cut people out of my life because it was necessary for one reason or another).
However....
One of the reasons that I love reading the recaps and the comments is reading what other people think allows me to challenge or change or setting more firmly into my own opinions (and its just more fun to feel like you're watching something with others). So, I loved odilettante's recap (thanks for it!) and I love that it was pointed out that Dan Ah probably has a very low thresh hold for what she allows and that explains her swift and violent reactions to things. I very much had a problem with how she kicked two characters in two episodes in the junk and it was portrayed, in my opinion, like she was right for it. I don't think that violence should be used unless you feel threatened and in neither fight was that the case--in both fights neither guy wanted to fight with Dan Ah. Kang Soo wanted her to fix his phone. The other guy wanted to warn her about Kang Soo. In neither scenario was she being threatened, or leered at or treated or even potentially treated in such a manner that the obvious reaction was to beat them up/physically harm them.
It put a bad taste in my mouth.
To continue with how she's deliberately seeking out violence was in the scene with the kimchi. Kang Soo wasn't trying to feel her up. She had no reason to think he was feeling her up. The owner said he had a perverted look in his eye when he reached for her (obviously Dan Ah would believe her before Kang Soo) but immediately after Dan Ah left him on the ground the owner admitted she was lying and neither apologized. Which---was it supposed to be funny? Her physically hurting him for no particular reason other than she can? And then the blackmailing him for the dresses in his room (is he not entitled to privacy? SO RUDE!!). Yeah. I'm not feeling her so far.
Honestly, I'm not diggin' any of the characters so far (Dan Ah has...
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isa
August 10, 2017 at 12:36 AM
obviously left the strongest impression so far--but I don't dislike any of them.
I'll stick around to see what happens. I'm a sucker for found families and underdogs and while it may not seem like it with my lukewarm to negative reaction of Dan Ah (and Hye Young from FiS) I do like kick ass female characters and not just Candy's.
Sorry. I talk way too much. I wish there was an edit button. When I see how long some of my posts are---I get rambly and they could use with a good editing. Maybe I should type it somewhere else first...
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K To
August 15, 2017 at 11:02 PM
I actually just felt sorry for her.
It felt like she was cutting -everybody- off, and we know why now, because of her family that build her mistrust, and possibly a lot of other people, perverted men and otherwise who tried and did take advantage of her.
But I can't help feeling that things might be easier for her if she allows herself to be helped by the right people, case in point, Kang Soo.
But I think at this point, she has no ability to sort out those who are good for her and can be trusted and those who are not.
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nerdy
August 10, 2017 at 8:03 AM
THANK YOU, with all those comments prising her I started thinking I was the crazy one.
I also didn't mind her not helping her brother, but I hated her violent tendencies. I wonder, if comments would be same if all this was done by male character.
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Adal
August 11, 2017 at 2:38 AM
Great point. I wonder why a violent female is easier to tolerate than a violent male?
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toramona
August 10, 2017 at 9:32 AM
Yup I have no problem with cutting off people who are detrimental to your life. Good on you Dan Ah. I totally get the recap and her being extra raw from people being in her face all the time and therefore Dan Ah having a short fuse for bs. When i used to ride the train and buses I was super short with people because it can be intense and dangerous really quickly. That said...I don't get her uber violent tendencies. Kicking guys in the groin is also a weak move in both of her confrontations. I'm all for using every trick or move possible when someone is attacking you...seriously nothing is off the table...but that wasn't happening in any of her confrontations.
Anyways Dan Ah is definitely a flawed protagonist which can end up being a really good thing.
Side Note:
I think long comments are great. You get a better idea of where the Beanie's opinion is coming from. YAY
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alua
August 10, 2017 at 11:10 AM
<how she's deliberately seeking out violence was in the scene with the kimchi
Yes, that was... odd. I mean, low threshold, sure, but if your threshold is that low, I think you've got some issues (probably best not even walk out of the door in that case...).
Kicking someone in the groin like that... it's like teenage behaviour to me (she's mid-20's right?) when you are struggling to control your feelings and feel all over the place as you're going through puberty.
I'm just not sure if the writer isn't just trying a bit too hard to make Dan Ah and Kang Soo clash at all cost? I'm also not feeling her. :-/
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21 kimchiturka
August 10, 2017 at 1:16 AM
It seems to me that Ji Yoon is Kang Soo's sister - half sister, that is. Anyone else here thought of that..?
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sicarius
August 10, 2017 at 1:22 AM
YES! My first thoughts when we learnt his mum ran away with their money.
'who do I know who is a rich chaebol woman with lots of money in Seoul that we've been introduced to already... hmmm I wonder...'
Calling it with you now.
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alua
August 10, 2017 at 2:03 AM
Yes. See my comment on episode one (in reply to Noor's comment 43).
Kang Soo and Ji Yoon cohabiting would normally be an OTP situation, but since they obviously not going to be the OTP, a sibling relationship makes that situation 'acceptable' (in kdramaland).
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kimchiturka
August 10, 2017 at 2:25 AM
Exactly. And she instantly calls him "oppa" and takes shelter with him, but also immediately states that she "doesn't see him as a Man" or something like that. I'd say we're on the right track :)))
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rinny
August 10, 2017 at 6:11 AM
Yeah, I totally think they are telegraphing that "surprise" early, just so it is easier to get over the hurdles it could introduce later in the story otherwise.
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22 pigsnout
August 10, 2017 at 1:19 AM
This episode is better than the last one, but I'm still not feeling sorry for the 'feel sorry for me' stories of the chaebols, I mean sure the guy feels bad but what did he do? Blocked off a road to have a race to deal with his 'inner pain' and because of that a person could die. Is this character really supposed to be someone we are sorry for, because his life is so hard?
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alua
August 10, 2017 at 2:17 AM
I actually found it worse, because afterwards I just felt I had been hit with a sledgehammer of OH-SO-TRAGIC-STORIES for every single one of the four leads, with too many cliché elements and hints of sub storylines that are the same as always.
For example, it's great that Da-Nah is a strong person determined to live her own life (although she crosses the line for me with her behaviour, e.g. blackmailing Kang-soo or kicking him in the groin) but when they then throw in her totally incompetent, guilt-tripping family with her mom pretending to sell her organs, the writing just lacks nuance for me to find the situation anything other than ridiculous. The conflict itself is valid (struggle between parent and child, child feeling guilty towards parents – I see this in my Korean friends), but it's written so roughly – like with a big, fat board marker instead of a fineliner, or at least a normal pen – that I just roll my eyes.
And there's just too much criss-crossing of the characters for me. Like, did Kang-soo and Da-Nah really have to be on the same train to Seoul so we get the point that they are fated to be the OTP? To me, that's paint-by-numbers kdrama writing, not at refreshing story I was hoping for.
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pogo
August 10, 2017 at 9:46 AM
I can take some of the "coincidences" on board as a kdrama thing, but I think it's abundantly clear that this drama isn't Fight My Way and isn't particularly committed to its supposed backdrop of the jjajangmyun delivery world (which is a shame).
We're being practically beaten over the head with FEEL SORRY FOR ME backstories for all the characters, but the only one that comes close to working for me is Dan-ah's, largely because her family's emotional blackmail and her (thankfully successful for now) effort to resist it seem somewhat relatable as a real-life phenomenon.
I'd have spit nails if she caved to them whining at her to part with her money when it wasn't even an emergency and her brother had the nerve to come to her when he lost his college tuition through his own bad choices.
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pogo
August 10, 2017 at 10:03 AM
Tell me about it. A person could literally die because Jin-gyu wanted to play with his toys and thought he was above the law, but we're still woobifying that? I'm honestly wondering if this character is meant to be someone we root for, because the writers are doing a good job of having him be the absolute worst.
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23 pigsnout
August 10, 2017 at 1:27 AM
Same here. I'm finding it so hard to like the guy anyway, but he does these things to flaunt his status and doesn't even seem to think that it was wrong or he should be sorry.
Look at it, he got beaten by his dad and told to die, but what about the guy who could actually die as a result of his actions?
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24 sriracha
August 10, 2017 at 1:32 AM
I think Chae Soo-bin should have been Ji-yoon. But I have no problem with the actress playing Ji-yoon. It’s just that with her character set-up, she has the least baggage and well, more likable personality in my opinion. I also find Ji-yoon’s interactions with both Kang-soo and Jin-gyu cute so now I am confused. Pffft.
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25 neener
August 10, 2017 at 2:04 AM
I like that Ji-yoon's not the typical chaebol daughter that can't think for herself. That scene at the cafe was ??.
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alua
August 10, 2017 at 2:21 AM
Her quick-thinking was great.
Jin Gyu meanwhile.... I don't think a character behaving like that can be redeemed for me. The only vague hope I have is that since everyone in the café looked at him like he was totally bonkers & out of line, that the scene was meant to provide a social criticism on people like him. Unfortunately I don't quite feel the writer's writing is nuanced enough that get that point across....
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neener
August 10, 2017 at 8:22 AM
True. I feel sad for Jin Gyu and his relationship with his dad but he did a have a choice to be a better person despite having that kind of a father.
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pogo
August 10, 2017 at 9:50 AM
That scene made me like her - she acted to save herself, which makes her about five times more interesting than she was as the wannabe chaebol Candy.
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26 chi
August 10, 2017 at 3:57 AM
I like the drama a lot so far!
Hopefully the cute dongsaeng will make it, I had enough darkness this week with 'Save Me'.
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27 bogummyshipda
August 10, 2017 at 4:20 AM
I hated Dan-Ah in this episode! He was blackmailing Kang Soo just to achieve her dream. I also thought that was selfish of her to not help her brother. We can't do anything about the system, so we ourselves are the ones who need to adjust. I know everyone's working so hard and siblings are not obliged to help each other financially, but still it didn't feel right for me.
As for Ji Yoon, I'm happy that she did something to achieve her plan to become an independent woman. I felt for Jin-Gyu in this episode though, even if he is a jerk. It must be tough to be felt that you are useless.
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harukogirl
August 10, 2017 at 10:21 AM
Nope, not selfish. I have 9 siblings, and we all help each other out - one of them lent me tuition money once so I didn't have to drop out of college. BUT I worked all 4 years of college AND maintained a 3.94 gpa, and applied for any scholarships I qualified for (my families dirt poor, but most scholarships at my school you have to be a specific ethnicity to qualify).
Now that I have my master's and a part time job in my field (It's hard to get the full time ones until you have experience), I have a couple siblings sharing my apartment for VERY cheap rent, so that they can better afford school. I'm balancing paying off my loans and helping them out - I couldn't be off help if I screwed myself over financially.
Helping is awesome, and I am 100% in support of it. But if someone is slacking off and taking advantage of that help, they don't deserve it. I drive a shit car that has no aircon and barely runs, I drive 1.5 hours to work so I can live in a cheaper area, and I work THREE on -call jobs on top of my regular 21 hours/week job (damn, I sound like a kdrama character). Why would I do that to help a sibling who is partying their way through college? If you want college, work for it! I sure as hell did. I worked full time when I put myself through grad school (also full time!), and did and internship on top of it to have a better chance of getting a job after. Thinking he can slack off and have someone else pay your way cause they've worked their butt off to save a little makes him just as entitled as a chaebol brat. Worse, cause he knows how hard money is to come by, and that his sister would suffer because HE chose to be lazy. He is the selfish one, expecting her to work her butt off supporting him so he can PLAY.
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Cocobeans
August 11, 2017 at 11:13 AM
i wanna give you a big virtual hugg and break out into a pom pom cheer. you go girl!!! also..9 siblings ? wow !!! i thought we were loud the 6 of us, i hate to be your parents braking up the fights :):) i bet your mom and dad have voices like fogg horns, my mother sure has :p
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harukogirl
August 14, 2017 at 9:54 AM
Aw, thanks ?. And 6 is still a lot! My mom has a killer two-finger whistle ?
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KaniaDJ
August 12, 2017 at 3:06 AM
You go girl!! I completely agree with you. Though she's not my fave, but I cheered for dan-ah when she didn't give in to her mother and brother request. I hate leeches, even when it's family. No, especially when it's family!
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28 mintkiri
August 10, 2017 at 5:18 AM
I thought this drama would be slice-of-life/realistic but then it hit me with tropes which feel outdated i.e. jerk chaebol with daddy issues and the ending scene of them falling off the bridge. It seems most people sympathise with Jin Gyu but personally I'm not feeling any attachment to his character. His illegal blocking of the motorway just took the biscuit and I don't think the actor is adding anything to him tbh. I do like Ji Yoon but can't say that intruding on a stranger's kindness is "living independently". To me, her action of moving in without asking just shows a spoilt attitude. Ironic that she's against going abroad to study when Dan Ah is trying so hard to get there herself.
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nerdy
August 10, 2017 at 7:48 AM
"to get there herself"? Oh please, she is blackmailing poor guy so she can achieve her plan faster. Dan-Ah is more independent than Ji-Yoon, but she would happily choose the easier way out if she had a choice.
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mintkiri
August 10, 2017 at 8:46 AM
I don't agree with the blackmailing thing but other than that she has clearly been working hard for the past few years.
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29 bmtsurin
August 10, 2017 at 6:01 AM
this drama so far is not disappointing me at all. im glad this is way better than ssam my way. i feel while strongest deliveryman maintains realism it is alot more entertaining than ssam my way.
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30 Onion 316
August 10, 2017 at 6:22 AM
Hello Dramabeans, there is an ad for Adobe that is currently running on this page that keeps pulling the page to itself so I can't do anything else but watch it over and over. I cannot read comments, I cannot read the recap and I have struggled mightily to type this. Please check out the ads on your site and explain to your advertisers that they are driving your audience insane.
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toramona
August 10, 2017 at 9:38 AM
@onion316 It used to drive me crazy! For my chrome I use a free chrome ad blocker and those ads haven't bothered me since.
On my phone it's a different story but I've seen advice to delete browser cache.
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31 C.Lo
August 10, 2017 at 7:43 AM
I love that Kang-soo was able to scare Gong-gi and get his dishes back, wrapping his legs around him was a great way to scare him.
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toramona
August 10, 2017 at 9:40 AM
I felt so weird about that. It was both that's so cool and you are completely insane sir. I mean if they fell would that have been an accident (manslaughter) or murder? I guess the intention was to scare him but it's that like what a mob boss would do? I dunno but he's intense and got his bowls back.
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32 pogo
August 10, 2017 at 9:59 AM
I really want to like this, but I'm having some serious whiplash over the characters. I wish we got to spend more time in the actual neighbourhood with the restaurants and their people (including Kang-soo and Dan-ah), instead of doing the chaebol detour.
I can take our leads' requisite tragic backstories on hand, but I'm slightly puzzled by how Dan-ah is judged for her violent streak even after her exasperating family, while Jin-gyu gets a pass because daddy issues.
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jvang
August 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM
I'm kinda hoping they don't spend a lot of time on chaebol family life scenes either. It's gonna be kinda disappointing if that's where all the conflict comes from because, man we've seen that A LOT in other dramas already. we need more dramas where there are no chaebols at all. I'd love to see the focus put on the neighborhood and if anything, how they're gonna prevent that lady from buying it all up.
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toramona
August 11, 2017 at 8:30 AM
I would LOVE if this show just did the neighborhood people and forget about that rich life.
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33 jvang
August 10, 2017 at 12:36 PM
I appreciate the willingness of the director and writers to show a lot of negative (or at least complicated) aspects of our main characters. Hopefully the drama stays character-driven.
Sometimes ppl don't like to see their main characters have mental issues, be weak, or mean, but as long as the writing clearly shows why they're acting in such a manner, I find it really refreshing. Dan-ah isn't just a greedy frugal jerk, she's lived thru money troubles and is jaded with society. It's nice when you can imagine that (even if they had never met each other) all the main character's lives would have continued on in interesting ways (rather than being subject to plotline events that just occur for them). Also, the fight scene was pretty epic. Probably one of the best female action scenes in a long while and it's from a drama about delivery drivers lol.
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34 jvang
August 10, 2017 at 12:51 PM
First and foremost: Dan-ah may be "blackmailing" Kang-soo but the reality is he's not being truthful about the fact that he's letting a stranger live in a place he doesn't even own, whether out of the kindness of his own heart or not. He could state that he doesn't care if she tells people, or he could be honest. WE already know that Dan-ah is willing to do a lot to get to her goal and it's really no surprise she would take an opportunity she sees to make an extra $96 to keep her apartment. Now it'd be a different story if Kang-soo really was cross-dressing and wanted to keep it a secret, but he's not. Is what she's doing good, no, but it's not horrid either... I mean we see 2 chaebols taking advantage of wealth and kindness while directly causing other people problems and they have to qualms about that.
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alua
August 11, 2017 at 3:13 AM
<Now it'd be a different story if Kang-soo really was cross-dressing and wanted to keep it a secret, but he's not.
Whether he's actually crossdressing or not is regardless. They are making crossdressing the butt of the joke – which is kdramas standard way of tackling anything LGTB related. This is problematic (though I'm sure this has not dawned on the writer – that s/he is yet again exploiting a minority to make a joke).
Personally I have plenty of qualms about the two chaebols as well.
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jvang
August 11, 2017 at 8:23 AM
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jvang
August 12, 2017 at 5:50 PM
you know what... after seeing ep 3, I agree with you. The fact that she called him a perverted freak makes it clear that the writers are doing :/ That's pretty ugly behavior. Dan-ah's sympathetic but I hope they refrain from having her be so bullying in the future.
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35 bkchild
August 10, 2017 at 2:57 PM
The entire blackmail thing made me not like Dan Ah. Even her cutting off her family I understood, it wad clearly hard for her but they keep messing up their own lives and she's worked all this time with no help from them and then they show up and ask for more bail outs. They need to learn to function and work hard on their own. But her blackmailing him wasn't understandable or even funny, which I'm sure the show was trying to make it a little funny. It only took off like half a month from her countdown clock, it was really over the top and she's just too much. Jin Gyu, in the same vein, I understand why he's acting out and his dad is straight up abusive, and horrible. I can't believe he beat his son with a gold club, and it looks like that isn't the first time. But the show had to make it so his actions potentially kill someone. It wasn't deliberate but he just doesn't think and I don't know how I'm supposed to root for that if they don't resolve it properly.
Ji-yoon is amazing, she really is cut-throat and way more resourceful than you'd think a sheltered rich girl would be. The entire earring scene was hilarious and eye openings. But she is her mother's daughter, I'm sure she picked up on how to read a room and work it to her own ends. Which is why it's odd that her mom thinks she doesn't have the skills. I think she should go and run the company, I think she'd do well and be a good balance of being cut-throat but not to the point where she'd running small businesses out just to move up int he rankings. She'd make a successful semi-ethical company. If that's what winds up happening then good for her. Still mostly watching for her.
Kang-Soo is really nice and I hope he finds his mom. I still think ji-yoon's mom is probably his mom. A woman who is selfish enough to run off with her husbands money and starts a new life and business. Her mom fits the bill. But maybe that's just coming from me watching too many kdramas.
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36 pigsnout
August 10, 2017 at 7:33 PM
Look at the double standards here..... everyone judging Dan Ah for being violent and blackmailing for cross dressing, she's "rude" etc
while Jin Gyu's nasty character and actions that almost killed someone is excused as 'the drama made him do it', 'the situation is written that way' as if his words and actions and the shitty way he treats people are not part of his character? There is some kpop levels of 'oppa didn't mean it' going on here.
And they both tried to commit suicide but only the rich guy gets the more sympathy, of course.
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toramona
August 11, 2017 at 8:54 AM
There's interest to see more about what's going on with Jin Gyu...well at least for me. The actor is giving an interesting performance. What's really intriguing in this drama is that everyone one of the characters has some problematic issues. Jin-Gyu definitely doesn't deserve a pass. Like DUDE you're rich rent a freakin' place to race and stop being a menace to society. Don't blame someone telling daddy when you don't even need the money from the illegal racing. Right now Dan ah's character is still really on edge about life and her use of violence hasn't always been justified. Although she did awesome with those horrible creeps who ordered food and grabbed her.
Yes they both tried to commit suicide and I think the show is going to have us understand both of them some more.
More understanding= more sympathy.
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37 mischiefdreamer
August 11, 2017 at 12:07 AM
Watching this for Go Kyung-pyo due to Chicago Typewriter withdrawal. Still remember how I bawled my eyes out at his last moments ?
I'm liking the 2nd lead girl more than our main one which is weird, you don't get a lot of likable 2nd lead girls nowadays, which is sad.
Hoping for a great show! ?
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38 deegee
August 12, 2017 at 11:39 PM
That last scene with Dan Ah and Jin Gyu dangling off the bridge.. I really like it! That moment of desperation.. Jin Gyu suddenly having the desire to live when he wanted to die shortly before. And how did Dan Ah convince herself that time that she shouldn't die?
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39 Seolminah
August 29, 2017 at 4:36 AM
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