Dramaland reality vs. actual reality in Korea
by tipsymocha
Now, we drama-lovers know that dramaland doesn’t necessarily reflect reality, and that not every Korean man or woman are in their twenties or thirties, nor are they all doctors, lawyers, or business executives. It is hard to gain some perspective, though, if you’ve only experienced Korea through the media.
The Korea Communications Commission released a report recently, titled the “2016 Report on Media Diversity,” to show just how differently dramas reflect the socioeconomic and generational makeup of South Korea. They studied 43 dramas that aired between January and September last year on the Big 3 stations (MBC, KBS, and SBS) plus tvN and OCN, and took note of the drama characters’ occupations and ages.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, they found that drama leads were often young and had specialized jobs with above-average pay, while there were comparatively low numbers of drama heroes and heroines who were blue-collar workers or above the age of 50. Personally, none of these results were unexpected, but it was interesting to see just how disproportionate the ratios were, especially in comparison to censuses of the actual Korean population.
In terms of occupations, by far the most common job among drama leads were specialists or professionals, which took up 42.2% by itself, while in reality, those jobs only take up about 10.7% of the Korean workforce. On the other side of the spectrum, we have blue-collar jobs, which were only represented by 0.8% of drama leads last year, while 12.9% of the Korean labor force have such jobs.
It’s a similar story when looking at drama leads’ ages, although it’s actually even more disproportionate, if you can believe it (I can). Of all the dramas the commission examined, 55.5% of the leads were in their thirties or forties, and 38.3% were in their teens or twenties. Do the math, and that accounts for a whopping 93.8% percent of lead characters in dramas. According to a 2015 population census in Korea, the actual percentages of those in their thirties and forties is 31.9%, while those in their teens and twenties are 24.1%. Meanwhile, we have Korean people in their fifties and sixties, who make up 25.9% of the total population, only taking up 2.8% of lead characters on our TV screens.
I’m not sure whether this report will have any actual impact on the industry, and I don’t necessarily think the commission’s intention was to change the drama landscape. But I appreciate that this kind of report exists, because while we can always talk about how dramaland isn’t a fair reflection of reality, it’s nice to have some numbers to point to as evidence and get some perspective.
For those of you interested, I’ve included the chart released by the commission showing the comparisons between the drama survey and the censuses, and provided a translation of the same.
Via Yonhap News
Tags: drama production, Falsify, featured2
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1 iIlIi
May 6, 2017 at 3:07 PM
Unemployed? You mean "looking for a job" right?
And I have yet to see a drama where the lead was 50+ years old. Where did they get that 2.8% from?
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mulan
May 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM
Would Dear My Friends count?
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kiara
May 6, 2017 at 5:59 PM
Han Suk-Gyu: Romantic Doctor, Teacher Kim.
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michi
May 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM
That's the working definition of unemployed...
I think the average age of lead characters on Dear my friends were over 50 years.
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Patryk
May 6, 2017 at 3:16 PM
Try dear my friends, a very good drama.
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Gemini Rat
May 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM
Dear My Friends was a drama about the elderly. It was a really good drama.
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fgb4877
May 6, 2017 at 3:19 PM
Dear IlllI, what a beautiful palindromic alias!.
I know Dramas with older people are pretty unusual, but let me recommend you "Dear My Friends". The writer girl in her late 30's is the only main character under 50, but she is (mostly) the narrator of the story.
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Aijo
May 10, 2017 at 10:15 PM
I think there was one drama called Grandpas over Flowers, too, right? Also, there's Choi Min-soo's new drama Man Who Dies to Live.
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Cape
May 6, 2017 at 3:24 PM
Grandpa Flower Investigation Team was a fun drama.
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fab
May 6, 2017 at 3:28 PM
Unemployed is a legit term used anywhere for the measurement of the workforce of a country.
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Mango Juice
May 6, 2017 at 3:57 PM
I think the commenter is referencing Jo In-sung (Oh Dae-hwan) from Shopping King Louie, or something like that.
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 1:16 AM
"Ima cvhob sheekev..."
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Mango Juice
May 7, 2017 at 11:51 AM
"Isn't he awesome?"
fab
May 8, 2017 at 7:28 AM
Hey, that "job seeker" is from a different species.
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hades
May 6, 2017 at 5:21 PM
No disrespect or anything but it's pretty funny that the majority of the above posters cited Dear My Friends as a drama in which the lead/cast were ages 50+. It's either that good or shows just how few (good ones) there are.
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Miranda
May 6, 2017 at 5:41 PM
It would be funnier if it turns out Dear My Friends counts for the entire 2.8%. (Funny as in funny-bitter, not funny-ha-ha.)
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hades
May 6, 2017 at 5:53 PM
Still made me chuckle though. lol.
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kimsoohyunftw
May 6, 2017 at 5:55 PM
I think it's both of them. It is that good and while there's a lot of realistic drama lately, there were none that portray elderly better, gives them actual human perspective instead of one-dimensional in-laws roles.
By the way I notice that most of Koreans (almost half of them) have unspecified job (far right column) tho :o
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amyam
May 6, 2017 at 8:42 PM
Dear My friends just won the 53rd annual Baeksang Awards for best drama over the much anticipated win for Goblin... now I'm curious about it. I've added it to my will watch k-drama list.
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missjb
May 6, 2017 at 10:08 PM
Memory?
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kiara
May 7, 2017 at 7:40 AM
Memory is still on my watch list. I think Lee Sung-min turns 50 next year.
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Miyu
May 7, 2017 at 11:31 AM
Not exactly 50+ years old, but both leads in "Second To Last Love" are in their late 40's. Most characters are also around that age.
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Aijo
May 10, 2017 at 10:11 PM
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irmar
May 21, 2017 at 3:07 PM
Second to Last Love
Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim
Dear My Friends
Father is strange the middle aged couples are leads too
(If we speak of slightly older dramas I could quote Misaeng, where one of the two main leads is in his 50s. )
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2 fgb4877
May 6, 2017 at 3:13 PM
I find it most interesting, since I see Dramas as a muddled mirror of reality. It reflects the ASPIRATIONS of the viewers more than their reality. On the other hand, it is good to be aware of those differences since TV shows are an educational media after all.
I still remeber in the 80's lots of our Venezuelan telenovelas (soap operas) were about a girl coming from humble origins that fall in love with a rich man an after some cliched adventures had a happily ever after. Now we are leaders in teen pregnancy...
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Patryk
May 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM
Very acute point.
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agassi
May 6, 2017 at 4:39 PM
Can't agree more. Happy to read a comment from another venezuelan :)
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fgb4877
May 7, 2017 at 7:58 AM
Sorry for my dear fellow Beanies ;) : * Vives todavía aquí en Venezuela?, yo soy de Caracas y vivo en La Urbina. * Thanks for your patience.
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agassi
May 7, 2017 at 3:45 PM
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etrenelle
May 6, 2017 at 7:10 PM
Yep totally agree with this. Also the viewers (and well everyone really) likes the thought of being someone who is highly skilled at a particular subject (words aren't working for me right now)
Really it is just a really good marketing tactic that has been used for decades, that helps creators gain a larger audience. It is like a signal of hope for those who have it a little bit harder on themselves.
That sounded way more deep than I meant it to XD
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3 Abbie
May 6, 2017 at 3:14 PM
This makes me laugh, because TV, in any country, never reflects society the way it is. Still, I wish they'd make a drama where the hero/heroine is a blue-collar worker or unemployed and a slacker. That would make a great comedy, I think.
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Miranda
May 6, 2017 at 5:50 PM
When I tell people I watch Kdramas and then they ask about cultural insights I may have picked up, I preface my response with the reminder "This is like asking a Korean who watched a lot of Vampire Diaries, Homeland and Gossip Girl to describe average American life." I can accurately report back about the varying concepts of rent, the rough outlines of family hierarchies, and about the food. That's it.
All TV is escapism, but it's kind of nice to see that someone is trying to tether programming to reality. But this is the same old "appeal to the individuals with disposable income who are highly susceptible to product placement" story that happens everywhere. And this rating doesn't account for sageuks, I don't think, which might be filling some of the gaps for audiences outside the teen-to-fifty range.
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Linda Palapala
May 6, 2017 at 6:21 PM
Oh, that's been done all right. Of course, the slacker in the end becomes an honorable hero (or not, since it's dramaland).
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 1:33 AM
There is a drama called "unemployed romance", but i havent watched it.
The thing is: to be unemployed is not worthy.... not anything to be proud of. So... i dont think they will portray that in their lead characters.
Unemployed people are still eating and expending certain amount of money....where does the money come from? Social wellfare? Relatives? It is a shameful situation. How would we as viewers relate to that? Or like it?
Even if we are ourselves on the social welfare, we wont talk about it because it makes us feel like losers.
Blue collars is another story but there is a similar feeling of shame because everybody wants something better.
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doublen
May 7, 2017 at 1:39 AM
I agree. There should be a study on how American TV showcase average citizens: all people are skinny and mostly white.
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4 pastryajumma
May 6, 2017 at 3:26 PM
It doesn't matter what the country is, most people are going to want to watch shows about people living the "glamorous life" or "successful" people who seem to "have it all." I think it's really about escapism.
Although one of my top favorite dramas of last year was "Dear My Friends" which had a cast of people who were mostly in their 70s. It was an awesome slice of life drama which really pulled at the heartstrings.
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Nessie
May 7, 2017 at 2:12 PM
Pretty much, people want to watch shows that don't remind them of their current life.
I remember when Misaeng was airing there were comments online in Korea, where people said they couldn't watch the show at all because it reminded them of their current office job. It was too realistic for some people to stomach. At the end of the day everything is deemed entertainment, and if it can't entertain who would want to watch it?
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Aijo
May 10, 2017 at 10:13 PM
Although I didn't watch all of Misaeng, it was pretty slice-of-life.
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thatstp
May 7, 2017 at 8:35 PM
I watched My Dear Friends with a box of tissue almost every episode. It was scary real.
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5 jozie
May 6, 2017 at 3:27 PM
The social scientist in me would love to see the whole report in English, I'm curious. Then I would like to see an equivalent report done for the USA. Still trying to figure out how Jennifer Aniston's character in friends afforded her share of their huge New York apartment when she worked at a Coffee House.
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Shannie
May 6, 2017 at 5:07 PM
Exactly. And how Carrie Bradshaw worked as a newspaper columnist and had so many designer shoes, handbags, and clothes.
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hydesamagirl
May 7, 2017 at 7:57 PM
Same for Beckett in Castle, girl must be taking bribes to afford that wardrobe as a detective.
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anothernicole
May 6, 2017 at 7:44 PM
um yes. so much yes to this.
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Poonam
May 7, 2017 at 12:22 AM
they did address that, it was her nana's apartment and that jennifer didnt share rent as far as i remember.
Though i agree about Carrie Bradshaw, how she managed it despite the fact being a writer (atleast in my country) is not exactly a well paid job or ever was
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thatstp
May 7, 2017 at 8:38 PM
Sorry didn't see your comment until AFTER I hit send.
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thatstp
May 7, 2017 at 8:37 PM
On Friends their rent wasn't expensive because it was in Monica's aunt name or something. I remember they had a convo about it being rent controlled.
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6 blo
May 6, 2017 at 3:29 PM
You mean my young, handsome, CEO husband isn't out there in Korea, waiting for me? ?
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giocare
May 6, 2017 at 3:55 PM
no *cries* he's probably job seeking as we speak
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blnmom
May 6, 2017 at 4:28 PM
He IS there, waiting for you to come accidentally kiss him by falling on him on the way to walking to your part-time job at the convenience store.
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chingu
May 7, 2017 at 12:56 AM
Oh okay, good. Phew~
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CatoCat
May 7, 2017 at 5:44 AM
That's world load of coincidences. Bypassing all parallel universes to stick a wooden kiss on an arrogant noname hero.
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sup super supper
May 6, 2017 at 5:37 PM
Oh, your young, handsome husband has to work? How unfortunate. Mine is independently wealthy thanks to some un-named wise investments. ;)
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windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 6:09 PM
He only works as a hobby.
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amaimikan
May 6, 2017 at 6:29 PM
These conversations lol
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jozie
May 6, 2017 at 7:02 PM
Don't worry, despite being filthy rich I saw him eating at Subway. You just must go there everyday until 'accidentally' bump into each other.
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blo
May 6, 2017 at 9:58 PM
??? You all are hilarious.
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 12:02 AM
beware of those. they are all secret psycho killers.
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Asguardian
May 7, 2017 at 12:25 AM
Coincidentally, the recent South Korean Presidential scam bought to light the difference between the elite in South Korea and the normal people, and many reports lay Korea as one of the good examples of where the rich keeps getting richer and poor .. poorer
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 1:23 AM
That sounds like Venezuela! LOL
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CatoCat
May 7, 2017 at 5:45 AM
That sounds like every other country out there.
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fgb4877
May 7, 2017 at 1:45 PM
Oye chama, ¿eso te parece divertido?... (Hey lady, is that funny to you?).
We are having a really hard time down here. Hope you never have to climb a tree to eat its fruits not because you actually want it, but simply because you can't afford to go to a supermarket. Hope you never have to see hundreds of your people open the garbage to eat residues. Hope you can walk freely in your city without the fear of being robbed/killed. Hope you can call your friends and have a reunion because they actually still live in your country. Hope you don't become lonely since you are the one left behind in your country.
Sorry to the other Beanies for the rant.
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Marina
May 7, 2017 at 6:50 AM
It's because the poor in every country are kept busy and uninformed by watching absolutely fake news and fake entertainment while losing what is left of their freedom and money.
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 1:22 AM
And i hope you look at least a little bit asian. I have never watched a drama where the girl is from another country speaking little korean ?
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 2:11 AM
Drama World?
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kelly-k
May 7, 2017 at 3:42 AM
And there goes my future :(
*tears* ....
Seriously , I have only ever seen one black person ( who appears more than once) in a k-drama and that was that man in moorim school ...
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alert
May 7, 2017 at 2:32 AM
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7 fab
May 6, 2017 at 3:40 PM
Indeed not surprising, but it's nice to see the real numbers of a country that I mostly know through fictional dramas. But no word about "geeeniuses" in real life? They really rack up that 42.2%. Heh.
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8 fab
May 6, 2017 at 3:49 PM
I am left wondering about the gender balance. Would love to know how (un)equal it is compared with TV. May there be many more of Seo hyun-jin's characters on the screen and in real life!
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windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 5:56 PM
Well, Korea has one of the worst misogyny rates in the world, so... https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/opinion/south-koreas-misogyny.html?_r=0
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Linda Palapala
May 6, 2017 at 6:22 PM
At least it's blatant misogyny, in the U.S. it's just more subtle.
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fab
May 7, 2017 at 9:57 AM
SIGH. I was afraid of that but these kind of reports should always take that into account; change is really urgent. Merci.
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9 littlecat
May 6, 2017 at 3:52 PM
Really interesting report! Thanks for sharing!
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10 giocare
May 6, 2017 at 3:54 PM
Hmm I feel like the family dramas I have watched gave me a more realistic perspective since they contained blue-collar workers and non specialized jobs. Also some are just way more believable than the other dramas that aired this year and last...no shade no tea
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SojuSommelier
May 7, 2017 at 1:32 AM
Yup like Reply '88. The only unrelatable character there is Choi Taek, but the rest I felt like I met them somewhere, sometime in the past.
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SojuSommelier
May 7, 2017 at 1:34 AM
In recent memory, Reply '88 and Misaeng would be the most grounded dramas I've ever watched. The only unrelatable character in Reply was Choi Taek, but the rest I felt like I met them somewhere, sometime in the past.
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11 Emma
May 6, 2017 at 4:10 PM
Well... "Drama" / "Dream". There is not a big difference between these two words, actually!
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12 hibeautiful
May 6, 2017 at 4:13 PM
I wonder if Korean TV production was told to add at least one character as doctor in every drama. No offense but knowing a little bit about korean education (unhealthy studying hours, students suicidal cases, etc.) makes me think that some (or is it all?) countries including Korea tend to glorify certain occupations, which makes the young generation aspire to ONLY get those jobs while there are some that might be more suitable for them.
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michi
May 6, 2017 at 5:23 PM
While a doctor is a great profession, from my perspective, it doesn't seem to be as glorified in Korea as it is outside of Korea by Korean-American immigrants.
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hibeautiful
May 7, 2017 at 3:50 AM
I believe all professions are great, except con-man or people whose jobs are against rules or harmful for humanity. I just highlighted the phenomenon that I saw through (Korean) entertainment industry lens and related it to the reality, which is probably an insignificant representative (depends on how we view this).
That said, as we know, media is very powerful tool to plant such idea or image to people. It makes me hope Korean dramas (since we're at it) will depict more realistic story, something like Dear My Friends, Age of Youth. Or it'll be still ok if the realistic part is mixed with other interesting aspects that could sell the drama well in the market ;)
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michi
May 7, 2017 at 11:53 AM
Well people (or parents) generally aspire to high salary professions and most people already know professions in finance, lawyers, and doctors make a lot without tv telling us that lol. None of my cousins in korea had time to watch dramas growing up anyway.
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hibeautiful
May 7, 2017 at 4:12 PM
Are you a Korean? Then my previous and following comments would be irrelevant since I know nothing about the real fact and you might know it better :)
Lol I know that some jobs mentioned above are popular without tv telling us, and also students should just focus on their study instead of watching tv all day long. They too could get inspired about their dream job from somewhere else.
My point was since we're at the topic about k-drama, despite it is one of escapisms or just an entertainment, it would be nice to have some ( not all) that feel realistic but not necessarily a documentary, just a breth of fresh air ones.
michi
May 7, 2017 at 6:37 PM
Lol I guess I was still replying to your original comment about depiction of doctors on tv and its correlation to competition in schools. I do agree that it would be nice to see some more shows that depict some ordinary (non-genius, non-chaebol) lives. I personally couldn't relate to blue collar work but it might be interesting to see dramatized.
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michi
May 6, 2017 at 5:25 PM
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windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 6:00 PM
In k-dramas, prosecutors seem to be the highest ranking glory status profession. It may be true in real life also. Doctors are for sure a very close second.
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Sarah
May 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM
I heard it's athlete and then doctors.
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hibeautiful
May 7, 2017 at 2:40 AM
I thought Doctor was the highest, because I rarely see a k-drama without that profession takes space in it lol.
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CatoCat
May 7, 2017 at 5:50 AM
Why then Prosecutors are shown Corrupt then? Name any action drama and you will whole prosecutor office dealing into shady business and lone hero trying a losing fight.
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windsun33
May 7, 2017 at 7:49 AM
That is true - and the same can be said about any cop above the level of street pounder. Going by dramas, Korea is one of the most corrupt in the world - everybody is for sale.
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sorrynotsorry
May 6, 2017 at 7:15 PM
My understanding about One More Happy Ending is that the reason they made the doc such a jerk was because the local Korean audience was rooting for him too much. Why would a Korean lady watching this show want a cute young match maker trying to find a fella have her pick an employee of a Dispatch-like operation and a single dad to boot over a doctor? Thus the doc becomes a serious cold jerk and such is the live shoot system. I bailed on the drama but when I read this, things made sense about what went wrong in the drama for me.
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fgb4877
May 7, 2017 at 4:01 PM
I am sorry for One More Happy Ending, it should have been much better. That male lead was gold. The trolling of the female lead in front of a bus was perfect: the delivery, the mocking tone, the fact that the actor let it show that the character was having a riot on that... and the discovery they had that letting out in front of a bus of strangers was the icing on the cake.
Besides that, I loved all the Angels' friendship.
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thatstp
May 7, 2017 at 8:52 PM
So that is what happened! I gave up on it also, don't remember which episode though. I don't like dramas where the love interests are friends. So when the single dad reneged on staying out of his friends way for the girl I jumped ship. I remember when I read the comments on the recap, on DB, I couldn't believe how many people were all for the dad stabbing his friend in the back . Anywho, thanks for that bit of info. Now I feel a sense of relief with letting it go.
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13 alert
May 6, 2017 at 5:21 PM
Very interesting research. Just had similar discussion with a friend of mine regardingt the drama landscape all over the world. In my country, candy and chaebol dramas are still trending, and I've watched another country's dramas where most of the evil characters are women. Dramas are not the true depiction of reality, and in dramaverse, people hardly grow old LOL. I think it has to do with the purpose of making drama in the first place - watching drama for a lot of people is equal to escapism from reality. People need to watch pretty things with pretty background and pretty music, and well, reality don't always give that. If the drama truly depicts the real life, then Subway would be the national food of Korea instead of kimchi.
But again, dramas still give influence what we perceive in life, regardless of how unrealistic it is. The drama trends for one, give hints of the going-ons in the real world - case in point: all the legal & fighting for justice dramas in dramaverse these days are representations of the current Korean political and social landscape.
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windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 5:49 PM
You mean that not everyone in Korea survives on just Subway and Starbucks? (Aside from the thousands of trays of kimchi that some mother or MIL stuffs the leads' refrigerator with).
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alert
May 7, 2017 at 2:28 AM
LOL. If dramaverse is to be accounted for, all Koreans drink coffee and love fast food.
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fab
May 7, 2017 at 10:01 AM
And have a drinking problem if they real consume that many soju bottles.
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kiara
May 6, 2017 at 6:15 PM
kimchi subway ftw!
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doubt_no_more
May 6, 2017 at 10:54 PM
I agree with you regarding how dramas influence what we perceive in life. In my case, it is about human interactions with each other. Not the kind 'you saved a chaebol grandfather and treated him and he wanted you to marry his arrogant grandson' kind of interaction, but normal interactions between two bestfriends, couples, siblings, etc. There is one case where I was so frustrated with my roommate for constantly blaming everything when things didnt go her ways and for constantly complaining about her fight with her boyfriend *lack of communication, misunderstanding, yadda yadda*, so I ended up telling her a story of ChanYoung and Han Gyeol (I am sorry if I have offended CY's fans, at that time I did felt mad about CY, now not anymore) and asked her to reflect her situation. I told her that if she keeps blaming her surrounding, than get ready to feel bitter for the rest of her life. I also told her the reason she kept arguing with her boyfriend was because they didnt listen to each other, just like CY and HG was. Luckily she understood and try to mend things or else I might have moved out.
One more thing that always amazes me is the ability of our lead characters to do so many things in one day. They get to go to gym early in the morning, eat breakfast in a fine restaurant, go to work, pick up relatives or friends at airport, then have lunch, go back to work, have coffee, have a date with his/her partner, have dinner, and even manage to stroll at the park at night, go to sleep, and feeling refreshed next day. How they do all of this? Hahaha.
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 1:07 AM
Ha ha ha... i also wonder why on earth do they have to make days in dramas sooooo long and full of interactions that it seems forever!
It bothers me mostly because it makes people fall in love too quick, like they spend together few whole days and they are already missing each other as if they knew one another longer, or even ditching members of their own family whom they know forever just to do whatever with the other lead (of course, we know because they are falling for each other), but for me it is still not realistic, not even significative, as they want to present it...
Anyway... you guys will tell me again: this is dramaland. I know...
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doubt_no_more
May 7, 2017 at 2:33 AM
I guess....thats what we called as 'love at the first sight?' LOL. Believe me, it is real. Im not sure about other people, but it is for me. But again, my friends call me drama queen, although I never have any intention to make my life more dramatic any more than I am currently living^^
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alert
May 7, 2017 at 2:29 AM
Oh yes! A day in dramaland is so, so long but years gone by in split seconds! Does that mean they're living in reverse? ?
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 7:15 AM
LOL!!!
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 1:49 PM
it is the will of a mighty producer like in Truman Show, slow down the sunset, let the day linger, then fast forward and it´s 2025 the next morning cause invisible hand turned the calendar
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windsun33
May 7, 2017 at 7:52 AM
That is because travel in Korea is instantaneous.
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14 lenrasoon
May 6, 2017 at 5:34 PM
Very interesting statistics report, i don't think drama watchers were actually believing that Korea is full of CEOs, genius doctors and young hot people but it's nice to have an actual document to show that.
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15 bubbles
May 6, 2017 at 5:37 PM
Over 50 will definitely be difficult to find....there are family dramas though which usually do have some in that age group as main characters and some of the crime shows have at least one or two older detectives...maybe not quite over 50 yet but at least higher than the average.
I know Second to last love was also getting close, just checked - she was around 40...
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windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 5:47 PM
Nearly all the 60+ or even 50+ are usually some kind of evil overlord or permanently in some kind of hospital dying.
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kiara
May 6, 2017 at 8:11 PM
I wonder what the numbers would've been like during the golden era of sageuks and period dramas where there were more roles for the 50+.
There are quite a few of them who are still getting prominent roles in dramas.
(2016-17)
Kim Hee-ae in "Second to last love" turned 50 last month. Same with Kim Sung-ryoung: Mrs Cop 2.
Kim Young-chul: Father is Weird/Jang Young Shil
Kim Kab-soo: Whisper
Kim Eui-sung: SFD and W
Cheon Ho-jin: Six Flying Dragons/Man to Man etc.
Jo Jae-Hyun: Master Noodles
Choi Min-soo and Jeon Kwang-leol: Jackpot
Kim Sang-joong and Ahn Nae-sang: Rebel
Jung Bo-suk: Monster
Kim Mi-sook: Flower in Prison
Son Hyun-joo: upcoming remake of "Criminal Minds"
Heo Jun-ho: Ruler Master
Cheon Ho-jin: 7 Day Queen (+5 dramas last year)
The success of Teacher Kim might keep Han Suk-kyu in dramaland and there is Kim Eung-soo, Kim Yong-geon, Choi Jung-woo, Lee Deok-hwa, Lee Mi-sook, Jeong Dong-hwan, Kim Myung-soo, Park Geun-hyung <333 etc etc who are probably going to be in 2 or more dramas every year.
I really enjoy the 50+ veteran actors in dramas. Most of them I discovered through watching many sageuks.
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 12:57 AM
Wow! Nice count!
I have never watched a sageuk... and i am a relatively new k-pop addict. I am from Playful Kiss on! And i am not yet 40 years old.
But to tell the truth, i have a younger mind and like to watch younger faces... for me a range of actors in their 20's until their 45's is ok.
High school dramas can be once in a while an exception.
Dramas where main characters are oder.... depends on the story.
I feel i am an average viewer :/ LOL
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kiara
May 7, 2017 at 4:20 AM
I was still a teenager when I discovered Dramaland and Chungmuro 10+ yrs ago.
I'm a bit of a history fan so I tend to like old dramas and movies and I've binged watch a ton from the late 1990s and early 2000s.
I recently discovered some old North Korean films on YouTube and I'm having a blast watching them.
Interesting thing is, the current N.Korea government actually banned their own films with revolutionary theme.
(Their loss my gain?)
I don't know what kind of viewer I am lol. I have weird taste in dramas and I've only finished "Romantic Doctor, Teacher Kim" so far this year. Maybe Whisper will be the 2nd.
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dopefish
May 7, 2017 at 2:47 PM
Thank you for finding out there's North Korean films on YouTube. I hadn't noticed them. It would be interesting to see Shin Sang-Ok's films when he and his wife were abducted by North Korea.
I've been watching some South Korean films from the 60's and 70's on the Korean Film Archive on YouTube. I was surprised how well some of them have held up.
I finished "The Aimless Bullet" a couple weeks ago from there and it was great. It was created during the brief period of democracy in 1960 before Park Chung Hee took over and eventually banned the film since it was a harsh depiction of post-war Korea and the treatment of the Korean war veterans. I believe the original print was lost as a result of the ban, but since it was shown at an American film festival in the 60's, a copy was found with hardcoded English subtitles. Choi Min Soo's father is one of the main leads as well which was interesting. I watched it since it's considered one of the best Korean films by numerous people and I thought it held up extremely well.
I apologize for rambling, Korean cinema has an interesting history. I'm also watching Whisper as well.
redfox
May 6, 2017 at 11:09 PM
yeah, because they are all still 30.
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16 sup super supper
May 6, 2017 at 5:38 PM
Any recommendations for good dramas with blue-collar leads? I'm drawing a blank but am intrigued by the potential!
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windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 5:44 PM
There are some Japanese ones, but I cannot think of a single Korean one. A few 2nd tier characters. Though I guess you could count all the thousands of pretty lead girls that work in Subway as blue collar.
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sup super supper
May 8, 2017 at 6:20 PM
It does seem far more common in Japanese media, doesn't it? That's an interesting distinction.
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sangmaharani
May 15, 2017 at 3:12 AM
Yes. Japanese drama has more guts to potray multi layered society. I watched dramas of which lead is factory mechanic, boxer, unemployed, and homeless people.
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jozie
May 6, 2017 at 7:03 PM
I was going to say the female leads sometimes have blue collar part time jobs. Are there any dramas with the males in that role? If so, I am guessing it would have to be a noona drama.
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sorrynotsorry
May 6, 2017 at 7:25 PM
It's an older drama (well, you know) called What's Up Fox? The guy is a mechanic though I wouldn't call it the focus of the drama as it's a noona romance. I love the noona thing and liked it once I got into it.
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jozie
May 6, 2017 at 8:28 PM
I forgot about What's Up Fox, it's a pretty good drama.
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sup super supper
May 8, 2017 at 6:16 PM
That one did eventually occur to me. I did really enjoy What's Up, Fox, but could never decide if it was because it was genuinely good or because of my partiality for Chun Jung Myung. :D
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bananachocolate
May 6, 2017 at 8:27 PM
Misaeng! The whole drama is set only in a office workplace and all the main characters worked in the office! I thought it was such a good slice of life drama
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lush
May 6, 2017 at 9:02 PM
that would be white-collar work, not blue-collar
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bananachocolate
May 6, 2017 at 10:24 PM
Ooooh, thanks for pointing out the mistake. I can only remember Modern Farmer with Lee Honey's character.
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fab
May 7, 2017 at 10:09 AM
I didn't watch it but that drama with Lee Shi-young where she was married but involved with the second lead who worked in construction.
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giocare
May 6, 2017 at 9:08 PM
Would Awl count? Or Modern Farmer? (highly recommend this show)
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 12:44 AM
Modern farmers was fun. But by the way.... they really did not have luck! LOL...
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dopefish
May 6, 2017 at 10:05 PM
I can't think of any in recent years but I think there were a couple older dramas that had somewhat blue-collar leads. Here are a couple that I can think of that I watched. Although some of them don't really fit the blue-collar/white-collar mold, they are not typical K-drama occupations.
Ruler of Your Own World (2002): male lead is a pickpocket in the beginning and eventually becomes a stuntman. Female lead is a keyboardist of a struggling indie rock band.
Friend, Our Legend (2009): Hyun Bin's character was a fisherman until he descends into a brutal gangster. Female lead was a bank teller if I recall correctly. Not sure if that counts.
Goodbye Solo (2006): male lead was a photographer who was a bartender to make ends meet. His family was rich though. Female lead was an artist, but I believe she was also doing some carpentry work as well to make ends meet if I recall.
None of these dramas are really conventional romances and are a bit forgotten due to their age and subject matter. I recommend them though just for its content. They're not for everyone though. I hope my response wasn't too long-winded.
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 12:48 AM
I watched recently "three dads and one mom", and i really liked it. The three guys have average jobs and the girl is almost useless.... she doesnt even know how to cook! But the drama was sweet and it made me cry at least once. Made laugh many times as well... you can take a look.
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PakalanaPikake
May 7, 2017 at 12:12 PM
I really liked THREE DADS AND ONE MOM, too. Very touching at times. The three dads were cartoonist, cop, and investment advisor. Their deceased buddy was an architect.
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beantown
May 7, 2017 at 3:04 AM
Yoo-na's Street is an excellent drama; it depicts 'life in the trenches' for the lower criminal classes.......and 90's drama of 'Moon of Seoul'
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CatoCat
May 7, 2017 at 5:54 AM
+1 for Yoo Na's Street.
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kiara
May 7, 2017 at 7:35 AM
Another + for Yoo-na's Street.
If I'm not mistaken the two leads ended up dating in real life.
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CatoCat
May 7, 2017 at 12:25 PM
Only for a few months
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PakalanaPikake
May 7, 2017 at 11:36 AM
MAN OF THE VINEYARD has lead Oh Man-seok as a university agronomy researcher with a master's degree who quits the lab to farm organically.
The male lead in SWEET STRANGER AND ME / MAN LIVING IN OUR HOUSE is a reformed thug who becomes a mandoo maker. He farms in greenhouses to supply the restaurant.
CAN YOU HEAR MY HEART? has a mentally-challenged individual working as a landscape gardener, and a family who runs a chicken restaurant. None of them are leads.
Another family runs a barbecue restaurant in FIVE CHILDREN. They aren't leads, either, but the parents are in their 50s or older.
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 12:12 PM
oh I was so grateful to MLIOH / SS&M for having someone grow food. It had a substance.
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sup super supper
May 8, 2017 at 6:24 PM
Oh Vineyard Man. <3 Taek Gi is the OG of my k-drama boyfriends. I might have to rewatch that one now!
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Serendipity
May 12, 2017 at 6:22 AM
One of my favorites but underrated, alas!
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Aevah
May 7, 2017 at 8:35 PM
Wouldn't Hogu's love count?? The male lead was a cartoonist if I recall correctly while the female lead was a former national swimmer. It's a nice drama, but as a warning it deals with some heavy themes. There is also an extremely adorable baby as well XD Nobody ever seems to remember this drama which makes me sad because it's a really nicely done drama. If anybody else here has watched it, please tell me what you thought of it
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17 Sarah
May 6, 2017 at 5:39 PM
Well, it's drama after all. Why should we think based on the accurate data. Drama is the land that we want to have a fantasy and enjoy another side of life. In fact, I think the good looking, rich, nice, smart and lady killer or gorgeous hunks that are loved in every age range are actually available in real life though their population are so few lol. Take example: Bae Young Jun or Eric.
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18 Wag-a-muffin
May 6, 2017 at 5:40 PM
I'm not interested in the diversity between jobs, gender, or ages. What I want to know is how come every drama has "geniuses?" I would like to see a drama/rom com with a lead of average intelligence.
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blink
May 7, 2017 at 1:25 AM
the irony there being, most dramaland geeeeniuses are not actually very smart.
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19 windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 5:41 PM
There are many other ways that k-dramas are totally divorced from reality, many have been discussed in the past. Some are funny, some make good plot devices, many are just downright stupid. I mean do Koreans REALLY need someone to tie their shoelaces, replace a light bulb, or go into total panic over the sight of a spider?
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michi
May 6, 2017 at 5:55 PM
I will tell you that panic depicted over a spider is 100% my reality.
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windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 6:03 PM
You definitely would not want to live in Thailand or Australia then :D
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spazmo
May 6, 2017 at 6:23 PM
*crosses those destinations off bucket list*
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ddolmi
May 7, 2017 at 2:55 AM
Oh no not spiders again.You must have an English background as they have the same fear. No one can guarantee you won't see a spider in Australia. Even in the best hotels you MAY see one.They have adapted well to our civilisation. However they will try and avoid you- because well, you're much bigger than them! So believe me they won't cause you any injuries (apart from when you hit the ground after passing out).
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Ally
May 6, 2017 at 7:18 PM
Michix3, I signed into the site again just to tell you that I spit out my toothpaste reading this. Lol! ???
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lush
May 7, 2017 at 10:29 AM
i am a grown ass man and i still panic to spiders that are a half inch big. i kind of hate myself
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Ally
May 7, 2017 at 10:06 PM
I had to kill one for my grown cousin who is also a man--don't beat yourself up, lol.
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PakalanaPikake
May 7, 2017 at 11:49 AM
It was the B-52 flying cockroaches that got to me in Hawaii. The suckers fly right at you when you try to swat them with your slipper. The smaller ones are usually kept in check by resident geckos. Luckily I never encountered any humongous stinging centipedes.
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michi
May 7, 2017 at 11:59 AM
I've always wanted to go to Hawaii.. but your response is making me reconsider this...
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windsun33
May 7, 2017 at 7:05 PM
Those are not really cockroaches, they are palm bugs. But they are just as ugly.
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fab
May 8, 2017 at 5:52 AM
Hold on...FLYING cockroaches?? I'm not scared of bugs and would gladly live with them as long as they keep a distance, but that flying bastard sounds scary.
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Linda Palapala
May 6, 2017 at 6:24 PM
I don't watch dramas for reality. I want to suspend disbelief and enjoy the ride. I do that instead of going to Disneyland.
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kiara
May 7, 2017 at 2:38 AM
Lol I do both.
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doubt_no_more
May 6, 2017 at 11:10 PM
The go into total panic over the sight of spider is me, and sadly living in country with a tropical climate means I have to deal with it everyday. I even stopped driving in the middle of the road because I saw a big spider near the passenger seat and went into panic mode as soon as I saw it! Even thinking about it gives me goosebumps!
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windsun33
May 7, 2017 at 7:07 PM
I never figured out why spiders are so scary for some people. Maybe because I grew where they were common. I am much more worried (bugwise) about mosquitoes and those horrible vampirish biting flies.
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20 hades
May 6, 2017 at 5:50 PM
This is a really awesome and necessary post. It reminds me that K-Dramas are often a depiction of a bubble within a bubble. It's not just age and profession, but also race, ability, ethnicity, and sexuality that are disproportionately represented--lacking in representation might be the more accurate thing to say. The funny thing--which is not funny at all really--about this is that if dramas inflate certain stats like profession and age, it makes me feel there is little hope for those much smaller pockets of Korean society. At the end of the day, it's all about what makes the companies money. It takes me back to the CNN/Rain report on the Korean Wave. Korean Entertainment is a lucrative export after all. Why change what works when there is a demand for it?
https://youtu.be/BvYMq82Fl_k
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windsun33
May 6, 2017 at 6:06 PM
And in dramas it seems like the big dream of everyone is to work for a "big company". (Largely true in China also). I often wonder how small companies manage to get workers, since they are all applying for jobs at Samsung and Hyundai.
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hades
May 6, 2017 at 6:14 PM
Speaking of smaller companies, if only I watched dramas like Laurel Tree Tailors.
Wanting to work for the big companies reminds me of Radiant Office all over again.
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21 Linda Palapala
May 6, 2017 at 6:18 PM
Females especially are in roles they normally wouldn't be in in real life. How many female detectives are there in real life? A few, but any cop drama has at least one female cop protagonist, or lawyer, or someone with authority and of importance. (One reason I like Queen of Mystery is the female protagonist is a bored housewife, wanna be detective and smarter than most of the males. Plus, she's older and so am I).
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 12:37 AM
I have been wanting to watch that show, but was busy with other things. I will make foom for it. I like the actress :)
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SojuSommelier
May 7, 2017 at 1:41 AM
Yup yup, Following this series too.
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22 danifriedrich
May 6, 2017 at 6:26 PM
This report was REALLY interesting, guys! Thank you for sharing. I live in Brazil and all I know about south korea is through the media and dramas (oh, and some history classes back in high school), so I find it very interesting to see data like this :)
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 12:35 AM
I come from Venezuela and in the past, because i stopped watching our tv when i was like 18, soup operas characters were all (also) head of businesses where you never knew what they did or produced, doctors, lawyers, and so... but they were sooooo absolutely fake that they would show the guy in his medical white jacket the first day and the rest of the trop it was all about his private affairs, sexual relationships, gossip, "falling in love" whith the candy girl only because she is beautiful, etc...
At least the characters in korean dramas remain steady in whatever profession they are portraying, and many times the drama even show the appropiate vocabulary related to that profession, making it believable most of the time.
We still know it is not the reality, but man they really make it appealing for us, doesnt matter where we come from.
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23 michykdrama
May 6, 2017 at 6:56 PM
I find this whole thread very interesting for a couple of reasons-
That people actually expect dramas to in any way reflect reality. It's always dramatized (hurhur) and made extra exciting/intense, is it not?
Also, I agree about the comments of escapism but I also want to add that people usually want to use dramas as a way to gain experiences outside their usual day to day life. I want to see how the police and lawyers fight criminals, I want to experience the giddy excitement of a singer/band debuting, gain insights into writers and their literary struggles (I'm medical so medical dramas don't count but I assume others are curious about doctors and surgery too?) So it's unsurprising that a lot of the dramas are on these less common professions, because it's what people want to see.
And finally, it boils down to what exactly people want to watch. I would be more interested in a poll to see what exactly people in Korea want to watch, and whether the current drama landscape reflects this.
(And I dont want them to ever stop writing those ridiculously unbelievable stories of cold hearted chaebols falling in love with the earnest candy girl who thaws his heart. Or the cross dressing girl who makes the guy fall in love with her and question his masculinity. Because it's a guilty pleasure and you can say what you want about my tastes but I'm weak that way!)
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24 sorrynotsorry
May 6, 2017 at 7:08 PM
While I thought DOTS was a bit of a cheesy fun time, I actually appreciated that they showed someone in the military. Yes, Korea has a mandatory military service but they also have career military so it was a nice change though, of course, the gal is a doc.
I get really sick of lawyer/doc/cop/business shows so stir the creative juices and have someone be an electrician. I agree with the person that says this is perhaps aspirational, but across the entertainment spectrum internationally there seems to be a lack of creativity in showing blue collar work. It's why Roseanne was a breakthrough show back when it aired, and I actually appreciate that on The Middle the dad works for a quarry.
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mehungie
May 6, 2017 at 7:55 PM
In similar veins, this is why I found Weightlifting Fairy to be such a breath of fresh air. Such a rare choice of career to depict, but somehow their experiences and struggles were entirely relatable to so many of us.
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redfox
May 6, 2017 at 11:07 PM
Valid Love, a carpenter, though more to the creative side - still, one of my favorite characters to date. I was contemplating braking a few chairs after the show but our local carpenter is 82...
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Marina
May 7, 2017 at 6:55 AM
Teachers. They do have teachers in every drama. And shrinks. In one capacity or another. I am both, so that makes me covered.
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windsun33
May 7, 2017 at 8:08 AM
I like cop shows in general, what annoys me most though is that in most k-cop shows everyone in the precinct but the (often demoted) lead is stupid, lazy, incompetent, corrupt, or all the above.
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sorrynotsorry
May 7, 2017 at 6:12 PM
I was so darn surprised to see a competent cop in Shopping King Louie. I mean I think one might have been on the take, but the one cop was professional and went above and beyond. Such a rarity. I actually like a lot of cop shows, but the Korean ones are tough because the cops are so often exactly what you said. I'm crossing my fingers for Criminal Minds.
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 12:10 PM
I remembered Naked Fireman.
our current exhibition in Seaplane Harbour reminded me I have never seen surface rescuers in kdrama but that would prob be very expensive, you´d need a helicopter and someone to actually pilot it... very few small airplane pilots as well.
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25 Ally
May 6, 2017 at 7:19 PM
I totally agree with the escapism in dramas. One Reason I stopped watching American tv was because it was getting too violent, too real.
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windsun33
May 7, 2017 at 8:11 AM
Main reason I gave up on American ones is because they have too much gratuitous violence and/or sex. Not that I have anything against either where it fits the story, but far too often it just seems to be put in there to suck viewers in.
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elibat
May 14, 2017 at 8:49 PM
i agree with that. Not only that, Recent show of Criminal mind beyond borders, they made Asians or Singapore dimwitted. One guy in youtube deplored that episode.
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26 outofthisworld
May 6, 2017 at 7:21 PM
Some of the things I would really like to know:
1. Number of ambulances per city population.
2. Number of winter coats for an average female.
3. Percentage of fatal accidents caused by trucks.
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hades
May 6, 2017 at 8:04 PM
For #2, can I add in a 2.1. Number of winter coats for an average college female and male. I'm looking at you WFKBJ.
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outofthisworld
May 6, 2017 at 8:29 PM
It's even harder for me to comprehend because I live in tropics. I really wonder how many and often people buy new coats.
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michi
May 6, 2017 at 9:19 PM
I have about 7.. Now I am curious to see how many the female leads have.
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redfox
May 6, 2017 at 10:58 PM
I live in a cold climate with temperatures dropping to -20 (recently not more unfortunately). I have my winter running jacket and one coat - but it is too hot for me to wear unless it is -30! I really don´t understand how drama characters wear winter coats in autumn weather and don´t just die. but perhaps it is because they never wear hats or mittens and a person loses most heat through the head and hands
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outofthisworld
May 7, 2017 at 2:46 AM
If I remember correctly, you are from Estonia?
You must have a high tolerance for cold! So, is it true that you build tolerance for low temperatures over time? I've always assume so until I read somewhere that it's not true.
I live in a tropical climate where the temperatures are usually 33 to 35 C. I never get used to the heat. I am always in tanks, shorts and flip flops.
If global warming continues, I am seriously considering migrating ?
redfox
May 7, 2017 at 4:11 AM
yes. our climate has become more like a constant muddy limbo though. Very rarely do we get proper cold. Not everyone is used to it, most folks escape to warm countries as soon as it drops to 0. I am just an unusually cold-tolerant person, colleagues called me a penguin when I hanged around the inner yard of the museum in just a sweater when it was -15 to -20C. I can´t stand heat at all, but I have buildt up resistence to it cause we also sometimes get heatwaves we never saw before. I guess if I have no choice, I need to learn to enjoy everything.
27 yumii
May 6, 2017 at 7:34 PM
Did the report discuss how many judges, prosecutors and head of corporation were corrupt in real life compared to reel world?
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28 redfox
May 6, 2017 at 10:45 PM
Nope. Nope. Everyone is thirty.
I am really glad you posted this, I am one of the people who always raises her voice for equality. What comes out also is "Babies don´t exist in dramas!" You rarely see a child under 6.
although the over 70 group is underrepresented, the leverage still leans on them rather than 50 to 60 year olds. I would like to see it broken down by gender as well. It is like they expect people to have a very clear social role to be respected - 50 year old is perhaps too young to play a granny or grandpa, but too random to have other roles in the society. Except when they are rich. Clear success gives them roles like CEO or politician. But in real life 50 to 60 year olds are often the great activists fighting for social causes. Awl? Ahn Nae Sang is 48 though... But we also have the less successful and less active - I guess they just don´t make for such a rich story. Hey, but Jim Jarmusch made a film about a bus driver. You can if you want to.
I guess lack of variety is why dramas are entertainment and movies are culture.
It is not that bad though. when I think about what kind of social and age roes I have seen, there is quite many. but yes, the survey is about lead characters, that have the spotlight on them.
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redfox
May 6, 2017 at 11:11 PM
have to add: not all movies are culture only the ones that treat their actors as creative individuals. others are cartoons.
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 12:21 AM
But this may also show who dedicate to be in the show business in korea, mostly young people.
Korea is, as far as i know, still very conservative...
Babies and children are protected. Elderly people have rarely dedicate themselves to acting. The drama industry doesnt have enough actors all ages to put in their stories.
I think this is also an issue from the reality of their business. Writers, producers and directors are doing what they can with what they have...
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 1:14 AM
probably true, also, I guess that´s why almost every chaebol heir has the same granny.
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javinne
May 7, 2017 at 7:17 AM
Ha ha.... yes, Louis grandma
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29 Evelia
May 6, 2017 at 11:00 PM
Thanks for the information. Really interesting.
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30 Voryry
May 6, 2017 at 11:26 PM
How many % are prosecutors?
There seems to be a large number of prosecutors in Korea.
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 12:08 AM
yeah well there are so many psychotic killers to keep a grip on
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31 javinne
May 7, 2017 at 12:14 AM
This is very interesting!!!
And for me it shows how difficult is to the writers to come up with "real" or "possibly real" stories portraying the reality of Korea. They could, i suppose, but time and viewers target would be an issue...
Just for the sake of romance... what do people like to see the most? First fresh lovey doveys or second or third love attempts?
Second or third love stories, never mind how old the person might be, are complicated because people have scars and emotional baggage to deal with.
I think the thing with dramaland is not that they want to create this " fake alternative world" on purpose, where everybody is young, attractive and belong to the nice workforce of the country, but that they lack time to show the real truth with all its complexities in an interesting way.
Life itself is not always interesting or appealing, and sadly for now we are Not always finding our happy end.
Dramaland needs to be sort of fake in order to built wrapped up stories that we love to watch.
If we want to know the reality, we go to the news and social media and just go outside and look around, and see and analize ourselves.
As for dramaland, it is as if we sign a contract with it, promising that we will believe what they say is true, although we know it is not.
Fighting!
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windsun33
May 7, 2017 at 8:16 AM
Nearly all the lovey-dovey stories are about young people. Nearly all the awful, evil, warped people, totally dysfunctional families are older. That tells me that those lovebirds at 28 turn into ogres by age 35...
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32 debeers
May 7, 2017 at 1:29 AM
this is a great article and makes me wish we saw more editorial pieces on dramabeans.
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33 SojuSommelier
May 7, 2017 at 1:46 AM
If people are looking for hypersensationalized reality, there are always independent films.
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34 Globe
May 7, 2017 at 2:01 AM
Its interesting to see that more than 50% of the protagonists last year were in the 30-40 age category because I had just been noticing how drama's have aged up. As opposed say 2011-14 where I felt that dramas had more 20 somethings. I actually think its a good thing because I always felt that people in their 20s are never really as successful as they are portrayed in drama-land cause you spend half your 20s just studying (Undergrad+post grad) so I find the portrayal of 30 somethings careers more interesting. Which is why I found Radiant Office so interesting. It was age appropriate and the struggles were very relatable.
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35 Aotearoa Ajeossi
May 7, 2017 at 2:14 AM
The figures you give for the youth population are very different to those cited in this article http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2017/04/19/2017041900817.html
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36 brian
May 7, 2017 at 2:40 AM
I'm in my 50s, but that doesn't mean I necessarily want to watch shows where the lead is also in their 50s. Dramas are an escape, and a fantasy where the viewer can live vicariously through the characters on the screen. I'm fine with the lead characters being younger.
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37 tesshan
May 7, 2017 at 3:13 AM
Interesting and not surprising. I recently saw a video where they asked young Koreans their opinions about kdramas and how many they watch. Surprisingly not many boys said the watch such stuff compared to the girls. Boys mostly complained about the fact that because of dramas girls have high romantic expectations that for them are impossible to deliver.
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 4:36 AM
poor real guys...well, no - the korean guys I have met in the museum lack nothing. They shouldn´t worry. They do ask too many common knowledge and history questions and things I cant answer like how many people work in computer technologies or how many students are in Tartu University. They are impossibly curious, it sometimes gives me a headache. If they asked less questions, they are at least one step closer to romantic...
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38 Shamp
May 7, 2017 at 5:29 AM
I remember when I was 10, I was obsessed with Beverly Hills 90210. Because of that show, I thought I was going to have a car, a cute boyfriend, and I would be super mature and popular with glamorous clothes.
Cut to 7 years later, and I was taking the bus, working at McDonalds, never had a boyfriend, and very nerdy. I was just like Kelly Taylor, right?
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Shamp
May 7, 2017 at 5:32 AM
I should add that I thought I would have those things as a teenager. I never thought about adulthood. :P As a woman in her thirties, I can only shake my head.
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39 giocare
May 7, 2017 at 8:13 AM
Random: I'm writing a screenplay for class and i'd love to know what story ideas you guys would like seen in a Kdrama. Any idea/genre is welcome :)
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 11:59 AM
I have come up with so many plots that people say they want to see as a drama. Like a villain get-together in an abandoned warehouse, or a vampire carpenter. I should really go over my comments and collect all of them. mostly they were adaptations of the existing drama with added spice.
but in reality, I would like to see environmental themes, anti-globalization or Occupy-style activism, street culture, scientist and researcher characters (lab-work vs field work vs paperwork vs big companies who make your efforts useless). also realistic diplomats that deal with modern-day issues between countries, or maybe investigators of "cultural theft" aka taking something belonging to native people and using it for the profit of big corporations).
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giocare
May 7, 2017 at 12:04 PM
Thank you so much!! This is really helpful
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redfox
May 7, 2017 at 12:05 PM
from lighter themes, more artists /designers doing actual work, inventing, maybe trying to balance their wild imagination with realistic expectations. like a character who is very creative but socially disconnected, in their own world and needs to learn how his designs can be useful to real people. versus someone who only thinks of profit thus also not designing for people. they could have a love interest maybe someone with a disability their creative thinking might actually help. the desigfners would be women and the perason with a disability would be a guy.
also a lighter plot would be a scientist who is also a transvestite. you can take this and run now.
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sorrynotsorry
May 7, 2017 at 6:23 PM
I actually heard about a married couple where one was the musician (the guy) and the gal was a professional. They had a successful relationship, but I think it is a minefield of material in learning to respect art on one hand but also appreciate a good 401k (retirement plan) and a reliable paycheck on the other.
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Beanfan
May 7, 2017 at 8:44 PM
@giocare--I'd love to see more fantasy sageuks, like "Arang and the Magistrate" and "Mirror of the Witch."
I've been in a Korean drama-watching slump lately, and not long ago read somewhere (maybe on OT) about the C-drama fantasy sageuk (or whatever a sageuk is called, in Chinese), "Eternal Love" aka "Three Lives Three Worlds, Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms"...and was hooked after the first 2-3 episodes. The Chinese have a history of producing pretty good adaptations of fantasy wuxia novels, set in the 14 to 16th centuries, featuring lots of kungfu, epic battles, magical powers, complicated political worlds, etc. It's always a welcome break to the Kdrama modern dramas that I mostly watch.
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40 westley
May 7, 2017 at 4:26 PM
Duh. It is entertainment l.e.: fantasy. People like looking at young pretty people in elegant settings wearing cool clothes. It lets a viewer escape their daily grind and forget their problems. That's why KDrama is enormously popular all over the world.
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41 Beanfan
May 7, 2017 at 8:37 PM
Great report! I'm always interested to see the final results without doing the math myself...so, I'm glad someone did.
Since Koreans have a thriving, creative, covetable entertainment industry, I'd love if someone could compile statistics on it, too, industry.
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42 stargirl
May 7, 2017 at 9:15 PM
Thanks for writing this informative article, it's a compelling read!
You guys at Dramabeans are wonderful at keeping things real and grounded, unlike some certain websites that only publish entertaining or attention-baiting news and editorials. This particular pattern is the unfortunate situation in many places, not just Korea. Nonetheless, I do think that Korea's the worst when it comes to realistically portraying occupations/careers. I can't count the number of times I rolled my eyes in exasperation or abruptly abandoned a series due to my utter skepticism. It's quite easy for TV/cinema viewers to escape reality and get lost in escapism, in imaginary fantasies where everything is seen through rose-tinted glasses. I can understand for some, that's the whole meaning and purpose of entertainment; nonetheless, i personally prefer somewhat down-to-earth characters and at least credibility with specialized professions. It's rather disrespectful to be trivializing or misrepresenting these professionals who spent years learning, training and working in these hugely demanding jobs.
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michi
May 7, 2017 at 10:55 PM
"I do think that Korea's the worst when it comes to realistically portraying occupations/careers" OMG I agree. My eyes do an epic roll whenever another character just ups and goes to America for grad school, as if there wasn't an application process or deadlines. I know a lot of programs will accept whoever throws money them, but still.
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43 Krish Haki
May 7, 2017 at 9:33 PM
In that regard, Japan drama industry makes more diverse dramas. Still skewed of course.
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44 miselpo
May 7, 2017 at 9:41 PM
I think drama What's With This Family? (2014) is best in depicting the overall Korean work force, age, and gender. The main lead is the father who is over 60 yo running a tofu shop while his kids are secretary (37), doctor (33), and job-searching (26). His younger sister (over 50) live together with them and take up the role as the kids' mother preparing food, doing laundry, etc, while her own daughter (35) works abroad in Philippine. Secretary daughter's boss (over 60) who owns the company is also a single parent with an only son (37) who has just been promoted as Director. The president is dating famous former tv announcer (over 50) also has an only son, an idol star (26). The doctor son's superior (over 50) is the head of the hospital, wants to marry-off his only daughter (29), a food stylist to him but the wife (over 50) challenges the idea since their family backgrounds are not as equal. Father is determined to have his eldest daughter get married but she has decided to live as single forever since broke up 12 years ago with her ex-boyfriend (37), a lawyer.
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45 kurazo4
May 8, 2017 at 12:43 AM
As for me who is not living in Korea but love kdramas so much, this is a new information for me. I knew and I have heard that dramas doesn't necessarily reflect the reality but it is nice to know that there are such surveys as this that backs it up. But, whatever it is, Kdramas has been a stress-reliever to me. and I thank everyone - from the Directors, Writers, to the Actors, Make-up artists and all that I have not mentioned, who did their best to make such awesome shows - for making my day filled with thrill and happiness. :)
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46 Gnome
May 10, 2017 at 12:04 AM
While I'm not sure how much I'd want to watch a non-dramatized/ realistic story, the one thing I dislike in kdramas is how the main characters always have to be the best at something, whatever that is. I remember when drinking solo came out I was laughing over the fact that even though he was a tutor, he was a "world renown best tutor ever" tutor. Idk, I still just find that really funny. I'd love for dramas to get more relatable characters and divulge into the genre of slice of life. Some previous amazing slice of life characters to get a base off off would be misaeng's geurae, the age of youth girls and the female character from w- two worlds (loved how she was so non-genius about everything omg). There's tons more I'm sure but cant remember any rn.
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47 bomi98
May 10, 2017 at 12:14 AM
Re SWDBS In actual reality I was thinking who kept the CEO Min Hyuk house spiffy clean. Probably a cleaner will come once a week but will he trust someone to clean his underground dungeon.
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48 kontrarymary
May 11, 2017 at 1:16 AM
And that's why we need dramas like Misaeng and Dear My Friends to exist... :)
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49 Franbergh II
May 14, 2017 at 5:49 AM
Maybe this is one of the reason why im taking a break from kdrama and return to japanese drama where they have more choices from age to job.
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50 watchumlots
May 15, 2017 at 11:14 AM
KDramas are escapism, WHO would watch KDramas if they mirrored the dreary day-to-day lives of struggling middle-class people? Does anyone really think Koreans are all so beautiful, well-dressed, drive expensive cars, or live in such grand houses, or yell all the time? Well, the yelling part...
It's always the juxtaposition between rich/poor, career/unemployed, chabols/working class.
There was a sitcom in the US about middle class people who weren't good looking, were very overweight, lived in a messy house, and had middle-class, everyday problems: Roseanne. It was quite successful and ran for 9 years. But I didn't watch it.
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