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Signal: Episode 4

The past begins to interweave with the present to the point where it’s hard to tell which came first—and if that sounds crazy, it’s because it is. Crazy good, that is. Aside from the truly stellar acting, Signal benefits most from its deft directing hand, which helps to heighten the tension at just the right moments and let it rest in others. There’s never a stale moment because there’s never a stale shot, or is it that there’s never a stale shot because there’s never a stale moment? Whatever, this show is awesome.

Note: I’m just filling in for this recap, regularly scheduled programming will resume next week.

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EPISODE 4 RECAP

It’s a race against the clock for Jae-han to find Won-kyung before her stated time of death at 9:30 PM. And who should he run into on the way but the suspicious bus driver, who points him toward the direction he supposedly saw Won-kyung go. Something doesn’t seem right with him.

In the present, Heon-ki returns with fingerprints from the broken glass he found under the latest victim’s body, while Detective Kim analyzes the black box footage he obtained from delivery trucks in the area.

The black-hooded man we caught a glimpse of last episode is seen from the front here, and though somewhat obscured, they’re able to make out some features. Whoever he was, he was in the area during Detective Kim’s interrogations, most recently when he paid a visit to LEE CHUN-GOO, the bus driver.

And it was none other than Lee Chun-goo’s prints that Heon-ki found on the broken glass. Detective Kim examines the results plus the black box footage and states, “So bus driver Lee Chun-goo is the killer.” Chun-goo seems to know the jig is up when he spots Soo-hyun approaching his building, and shuts his eyes.

Hae-young follows up on a lead that inevitably traces back to Chun-goo, who quit his bus driving job after an apparently nasty incident. Soo-hyun arrives at the hospital she believes Chun-goo to be a patient of, only for the front desk to inform her that he’s a patient’s guardian, not one himself.

That’s when she receives a call from Detective Kim telling her that Chun-goo is most definitely the killer, just as Hae-young hears from Chun-goo’s old coworker that the reason he quit is because his son was involved in an accident.

Detective Kim calls to tell him about Chun-goo, though Hae-young has trouble believing it. The criminal profile said the killer had to be in his 20s, and Chun-goo was driving the bus when Jae-han caught false suspect Choi Young-shin. He couldn’t be the killer.

So he asks Chun-goo’s old coworker how old Chun-goo’s son was at the time of his accident, only to learn that he was about twenty years old. Uh oh. What’s worse, the coworker reveals that Chun-goo never wanted to leave his son home alone because of an illness he had, so his son would ride his father’s bus every day until the last stop.

Hae-young can’t help but think of Soo-hyun’s claim that the only thing the victims had in common was that they all took the bus home, and if they all took the route Chun-goo drove, that’d mean his son was able to pick them out since he would’ve ridden the bus with them.

Meanwhile, Soo-hyun goes to the hospital room with her gun drawn to find Chun-goo’s son, LEE JIN-HYUNG, lying immobile. There’s no sign of his father.

On his way to the hospital, Hae-young wonders if Chun-goo had no choice but to lie that no one got on the bus when Jae-han was hot on the killer’s heels. He would’ve had to lie if it was his son, who we see board the bus with the remaining two (soon-to-be) victims in flashback/Hae-young’s mind.

Chun-goo had come across Hwang Min-joo’s body on his way home that night, and saw the shape of his son running away from the scene. His coworker’s foreboding words come in then, since he said to Hae-young that one thing Chun-goo always said was that he’d do anything for his son.

Back in the past, we see Chun-goo look regretful and worried after he sends Jae-han in the wrong direction. Jae-han hears a woman’s scream and fears for the worst.

A fretful Hae-young calls Soo-hyun to tell her that Chun-goo isn’t the serial killer—though it’s likely he killed Jung Kyung-soon to stop her from talking. Soo-hyun has time to ask, “So who is it?” before she turns around…

…And find Jin-hyung’s open eyes staring at her. In a flash, Jin-hyung pulls her onto the bed with him with a hospital phone cord around her neck, trying to strangle the life from her. Hae-young can only hear the sounds of struggle from her cell phone, and drives all the faster to get to the hospital.

He and Detective Kim arrive at the same time to find Soo-hyun struggling to catch her breath on the floor, while Jin-hyung suffers from a head wound from her bludgeoning him with a nearby lamp. Jin-hyung claims he’s not the murderer, and that he only attacked Soo-hyun because he saw a gun in her hand.

Just then, Heon-ki calls with the same news the national media is all over: Lee Chun-goo has turned himself in as the South Gyeonggi serial murderer. He confesses to the murder of Jung Kyung-soon, and to all the others that happened twenty-six years ago.

While Soo-hyun believes he did commit the murder against Jung Kyung-soon, she tries to convince Section Chief Ahn that he’s only confessing to the others to protect his son. But without conclusive evidence to overturn Chun-goo’s confession, he can’t afford to believe her—especially not with such a public case like this one.

This effectively closes the cold team’s case, though Hae-young is left to worriedly look at the whiteboard with the ninth victim’s unchanged status. He waits till 11:23 PM for the walkie-talkie to come alive so he can check in with Jae-han, who smokes a cigarette in the early morning light. Oh no. He didn’t make it in time, did he?

Hae-young asks what happened with ninth victim Kim Won-kyung and whether she’s still alive, but Jae-han deliberately doesn’t answer. Instead he asks if he’s caught the killer in 2015. “Something is wrong, isn’t it?” Hae-young asks, only for Jae-han to more aggressively ask if he’s caught the killer or not.

“Bus driver Lee Chun-goo, is it him?” Jae-han asks. He takes Hae-young’s momentary silence as confirmation, and all but screams that he’ll go kill whoever it is if Hae-young tells him now.

“You’ve probably only seen pictures,” an increasingly agitated Jae-han tells him. “You’ve probably only seen a few pictures. All you know about the victims are their names, jobs, time of death, and where they were found. But not me.”

Flashback to the night when Jae-han had tried to stop Won-kyung’s murder before it happened. He followed the sound of her scream… and with tears in his eyes and voice, he tells Hae-young what kind of person Won-kyung was to him.

And then we see him find her, dead by the serial killer’s hand. He sinks to his knees and reaches out for her bloody feet, dissolving into sobs the moment he touches her. At her funeral, he could only bring himself to bow before the threshold, unable to bring himself to cross it.

Over the walkie-talkie, he vows to kill the murderer with his own hands, in the same way he killed his victims. Hae-young tries to convince him against it, claiming that he’d become no better than the murderer. They still have time to do something if Jae-han interrogates Jung Kyung-soon, who knew the killer…

…But it’s too late. Jae-han’s left the walkie-talkie on the other end, and the transmission window closes. Hae-young decides to follow up on Jung Kyung-soon’s case in the present anyway, figuring that she must’ve had evidence that proved Jin-hyung was the murderer, which she used against Chun-goo for years.

Whatever it was, Chun-goo failed to find it in her house, which means she hid it elsewhere. And the fact that the laws changed regarding statute of limitations means that they can trace her actions, since she would’ve gone to check on said evidence the moment she found out it could still be useful.

On the way to reinvestigate Jung Kyung-soon’s house, Hae-young asks after Soo-hyun’s health, since her neck is still bruised from her struggle with Jin-hyung. He admonishes her out of concern for going in to face a man alone, prompting Soo-hyun to reply that if she starts being picky with who she chooses to face, she may as well turn in her badge now.

Detective Kim calls that he found no leads by looking into the deceased woman’s credit card and phone records, but Hae-young finds a ticket to Sunyang in one of the woman’s coat pockets.

Since she had a cousin who lives there, they head to her house to start rooting for evidence and end up finding a parcel Jung Kyung-soon left behind. We don’t see what’s inside, but they do.

As Director Kim prepares to give a press conference declaring Chun-goo the South Gyeonggi serial murderer, Hae-young bursts into Jin-hyung’s hospital room to forcibly pull his hospital gown away from his shoulders. He’s looking for something specific, which he finds in the form of a thin scar on the man’s shoulder.

Soo-hyun interrupts the conference in order to put DNA results in front of Director Kim. The media is curious as to what the development is, and the director only shares that while they were investigating Jung Kyung-soon’s murder, they were able to find the South Gyeonggi serial murderer.

But in a surprise move, he hands the pulpit over to Soo-hyun, whom he declares as the case’s lead detective. She tells the media that her cold case squad found evidence leading them to the serial killer while investigating Jung Kyung-soon’s death.

We don’t hear the rest, since we cut to Hae-young interrogating Chun-goo at the station. He knows it all must’ve started when the police first questioned him about whether someone got on his bus at the Hyunpoong station, and the reason why Jung Kyung-soon had given an odd look at the time was because she was on that bus, and knew he was lying.

She was there the night he misled Jae-han about Won-kyung’s location, and saw Jin-hyung dragging the poor woman to her death. Won-kyung had used the taser Jae-han provided her with little effect, and it was that taser that Jung Kyung-soon kept as blackmail evidence all these years.

Soo-hyun holds it up in a bag for all to see, declaring that it had the blood and fingerprints from the last South Gyeonggi victim, and the killer’s DNA. The killer is Lee Jin-hyung, who was paralyzed from the waist down twenty-six years ago.

In the interrogation room, Hae-young finds himself disgusted when Chun-goo defends his son as being a pitiful boy who grew up without a mother. Pushing pictures of the first four female victims toward him, Hae-young describes who they were in life and the family they had.

Does Chun-goo think he’s the only one who holds his family dear? “Do you really feel nothing for them?” Hae-young asks, his voice growing louder. “You should feel sorry toward them!” But Chun-goo refuses, claiming that his son already paid for his crimes.

In the past, Jae-han storms into Chun-goo’s house with his gun drawn, ready to shoot the man where he stands. But when he catches a glimpse of his son, he recognizes him as the man he almost caught that fateful night, and gives chase.

He follows Jin-hyung into an abandoned building and up the stairs, finally cornering him on the roof. Once he overcame Jin-hyung, all he could do was punch him repeatedly, asking, “Why did you do it? Why? Why? Why? Why?!” Over and over and over again.

The only thing that stops him is a two-by-four to the head, wielded by Chun-goo. He’s unyielding when Jae-han all but cries that if he’d just told the truth that day, she wouldn’t have died. “This isn’t over,” Jae-han stresses. “He will kill again. He will kill again!”

But his pleas for Chun-goo to see reason go unheard, since the beleaguered father naively believes that since all the women from that fateful bus ride are dead, there won’t be any more. And even if he had a knife held to his throat, he’d defend his son till his last breath.

Jae-han believes him, which is why a terrible certainty comes over him: “I have no evidence. I have no witnesses. I’ll have to end this with my own hands.” He takes up his gun and aims it for Jin-hyung, who ends up slipping off the edge of the roof in his effort to get away from him.

Jae-han catches him before he can fall, leading to a long, silent moment between the two of them. Jin-hyung smiles through bloody teeth at Jae-han, perhaps reveling in the pain he’s caused. And that’s when Jae-han lets go.

In the present, Chun-goo cries that because that man let his son fall, he became paralyzed from the waist down. That’s when Hae-young realizes that Jae-han did it, and stopped him from committing more murders because of it.

Jae-han had gone to see Jin-hyung in the hospital, and heard his father claim that he just tripped. Even now, Chun-goo refuses to let his son turn himself in or turn him in himself, claiming that he’s already lived such a miserable life as is. Which meant that Jae-han couldn’t turn himself in for dropping Jin-hyung if Jin-hyung claimed he was never dropped in the first place.

Chun-goo laments his and his son’s misery, citing that as payment enough for their crimes. “What if Detective Lee Jae-han had killed your son that day?” Hae-young asks. “Would you be able to forget? To act as if nothing happened?”

Reminding him of how horribly those women died seems to be useless, so if Chun-goo wants to live in denial, Hae-young resolves to remember those women—even Jung Kyung-soon, who may not have been innocent, but certainly didn’t deserve to die.

Soo-hyun finds him afterward, and offers advice as to how Hae-young can cope with seeing his first dead body. It’s not until he steps in close that she loses her train of thought, though it’s only so he can examine the bruises on her neck.

Calmly, he advises her to go see a doctor, before telling her that Jung Kyung-soon wasn’t the first dead body he’s seen. A flashback reveals that his first encounter with a corpse was his brother’s, who had cut his own wrists after being falsely(?) convicted. (The computer screen indicates this as a high school gang rape case, but the show is being deliberately sparse with clues in this regard.)

He’s not the only one thinking of his past self, as Soo-hyun also flashes back to when she was a rookie officer. Jae-han had found her crying in the stairwell, and comforted her by confessing that he’s also had moments where he just needed to cry. So has every detective in the station, for that matter.

Which is all the more reason for them to catch the person responsible, he had claimed, since the pain they feel is nothing compared to the families of the victims. And while crying is healthy, he advised her to find another method to help her cope, much like the way she advised Hae-young.

Thinking of how Jae-han had accused him of knowing so little about the victims personally, Hae-young pays a visit to Won-kyung’s mother. Even though Won-kyung’s taser was used to catch the killer, her mother claims that it was really because of Detective Lee, the man Won-kyung liked.

After their meet-cute is when he’d started following her home, just to make sure she got there safely. She’d known it too, but was happy to let him do it. She treasured the taser he gave her as if it were a piece of jewelry, which is the point in the story when Hae-young asks if the detective she’s talking about is Lee Jae-han.

Knowing his affinity for her daughter, Won-kyung’s mother had paid him a visit after her death. Seeing the resignation letter on his desk, she passes over an envelope Won-kyung had meant to give him.

Inside were two movie tickets, which she’d been too shy to give him in person before. Her mother cries as she tells him that Won-kyung truly liked him because she could tell he was a good man, and because he always did the right thing. Even if he could be a bit braver about it.

That same night at 11:23 PM, Jae-han’s walkie-talkie lights up with Hae-young’s voice from the present. It’s only when Hae-young says that they caught the killer does Jae-han perk up and listen, asking how they did it and what evidence they used.

Looking conflicted, Hae-young tells him that they used a method not possible in his time. Even if Jae-han were to find the evidence, the technology to use it wouldn’t come around for years yet. Despite that, it was because of Jae-han that they found the evidence in the present.

“You are the one who caught him,” Hae-young adds, before thanking him. The transmission ends before they can exchange any more words.

And in the saddest scene ever, Jae-han takes the movie tickets Won-kyung gifted him to the theater, sitting next to the empty seat she would’ve sat in were she alive. It’s a comedy that has everyone laughing except for Jae-han, who sobs silently to himself.

Won-kyung’s mother looks on from the crowd as Jin-hyung is arrested and brought out of the hospital in a wheelchair, while Soo-hyun watches the media broadcast with Jae-han’s father.

As Jae-han cries miserably in the past, Hae-young looks out on the city in the present.

 
COMMENTS

So what happens now? If I didn’t know any better, this episode could’ve just as easily served as the series finale, what with all the closure and vignettes of every character looking on as justice was served. Justice being a bitter pill in this case, especially for Jae-han, who not only endured loss as a detective but also as a person.

What’s most curious to me is how all of this went down in the timeline where Hae-young wasn’t involved in past affairs, since what little he’s done has influenced and changed so much. Would Jae-han have come to the conclusion that Jin-hyung was the murderer without talking to Hae-young? And if Jae-han hadn’t have dropped him, would the killing have stopped some other way, or not at all?

Despite all the closure around the actual murder case, my head is still swimming with questions regarding the signal transmissions themselves, and whether Jae-han is stuck in some sort of Groundhog Day-like scenario where he’s doomed to repeat the past. He knew that Hae-young would receive transmissions from him again, even if he didn’t know it once he “reset” to 1989. So whether Hae-young’s influence has broken that cycle, he is part of one, whether he knows it or not.

In that sense, this episode isn’t anywhere near finale levels of closure, which is obviously the intent considering that we’ve hardly begun. But what’s going to be the aim of the show is something else entirely, since this case has ended in both the past and present as far as everyone is concerned—unless Jin-hyung somehow isn’t the murderer. And unless these events have taken Jae-han off the course where he ends up dead.

But perhaps, if the cycle begins again, there’s a way to not only solve the murders, but to stop them from happening in the first place. Maybe by influencing the past, Hae-young can do something about what happens to his family in the future. As long as we can reach a scenario where Jae-han isn’t sobbing by himself in a movie theater because the girl he loved so innocently is dead, I’m game as game can be.

 
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WHOA. I was so shocked to see Heads doing this as well. Wow. I salute your dedication. You're the best! gummi-heads combii is the best!

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talked too soon. ㅠㅠ But it's nice to see you here too, Heads.

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Same here! With SFD, WOW! Then saw your comment below so read the intro hihihihi

Should I give this drama a try?

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Yes, you should. It's really good.

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So far, so good. I love it to pieces at the moment but you never know what will happen in the future.

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I watched this episode raw but can't bring myself to watch it again with subs. Just reading the recaps brought me to uncontrollable tears so how can I watch this again! Jo Jin Woong-nim, I'll be your fan forever.

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That scene in the movie theater was too much for me x.x Between this drama, Cheese, and One More Happy Ending I feel like my emotions are all over the place. My family is going to start worrying about me...

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haha im watching those 3 specific dramas too :)
but yes, that movie theater scene was so bittersweet, i was already crying before he recieved the tickets but man was i mess after that scene :/

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This one was my favorite episode so far, Thank for the recap gummimochi :)

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Ooopss Sorry, HeadNo2 Thank you :)

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I have been thinking a lot about this show in the past couple of days, trying to understand the timelines where it all stands and the ifs, I have a love and hate relationship with anything that has a topic about time travel, or time.

I have been thinking if HY knew about the murders especially the murder of the little girl why didn't he tell JH so that he could stop it? My guess is that maybe by that point they just figured out that it was best to not mess with it and just let things continue their way. But then I also have been thinking if JH stopped it then there would most likely not been a radio transmition in the first place. Which also leads to the fact that if JH hadn't disappeared or died then the transmitions wouldn't have occurred and non of would have happened, assuming it's the same radio. My other question and what I truly want to know is also why didn't HY tell JH to help him stop the events that lead to his brother's death? Did they not occur in the other timeline and HY telling JH actually caused the events that killed his brother? Can we assume that the events that happened before the first transmitions different from the current events? sigh, I guess we will just have to wait and see, but assuming and reading theories makes all of this fun :)

Also about the number of deaths and if they had continued... I believe HY did mention that the same number of deaths had occurred in the other timeline, the only difference between the two was that one of the victims was different and that they were happening earlier. So regardless it was the same number of murders. My question however is, if it was true and the killer was murdering all the girls in the bus, then in the other timeline did they stop because there were no more victims? or did JH figure it out and the events of him dropping him from the building also occurred? I believe the girl he liked died in either timelines, so maybe he did figure it out.

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@blueribbon - This is my understanding. Only a couple/few days had passed between Won Kyung's death and the killer becoming paralyzed; so the murders stopped. If he hadn't become paralyzed, he would have killed more (or JH would have shot him to avenge Won Kyung). JH didn't have any prove to out him; also the fact the killer became paralyzed seemed like a punishment to some extent.

What I don't understand is that why he didn't kill Jung Kyung Soon. He forgot that there was one more person on the bus? Or he became paralyzed before he could do it? I can understand the bus driver paying her money to keep her mouth shut. It's not in his nature to kill. He did kill her in 2015 but that was as a last resort to save his son.

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Actually, I just found out one major flaw in my explanation. I forgot that JH figured out the killer and made him paralyzed with Hye Young's interference. So yeah, I don't know what made him stop before HY's interference. Maybe the dad said that he will go to the cops if the son killed again?

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I think JH figured out about the killer without HY's interference. He already suspected Lee Chun Goo first and was going to confront him, but then suddenly Jin Hyung popped out from inside the house, and he was really matched with the suspect's description from his memory of chasing the suspect, so he instantly recognised Jin Hyung as the suspect.

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@Anarik - Well, JH had a chance to suspect the driver and go to his house because HY told him where Lee Mi Sun will be found. If HY hadn't said anything, JH wouldn't have found Mi Sun, chased the driver's son, or gone to the bus station. If that makes sense. It makes you wonder what made the killer stop without HY's warning to JH.

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Jnug Kyunghoon didn't ride that bus, though. As she walking from the back of the building, she saw the driver's son as the last man that go off from the bus. I guess the driver's didn't tell his son about the blackmailin. And even so, his son already paralyzed that time (she found the taser as kept it as evidence) that made him had no choice but sent her money.

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Yes, thank you. Someone already explained it to me :) I forgot that she wasn't there.

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Also I loved the scene when he was crying in the theater, it was so sad and touching, to see the juxtaposition of JH crying while the rest of the people laughed. The harder they laughed the harder he cried :( thinking of what would have happened if she was still alive and how much they would have laughed together, it really helped to highlight his grief putting him crying against the people laughing. That scene truly made me sob like a baby, I just couldn't help it.

Also the scene in the stairwell that scene was also sad but it did help to highlight the importance of solving cold cases, to alleviate the pain of the families, and it served as a reminder that cops are humans too.

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Is it really a thriller? I cried so much during the second half, especially the cinema scene. Jo Jinwoong slayed it. It's too sad, though it's a bit unusual to end an episode in such an anticlimatic situation.

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THIS DRAMA THO. It's got be at the edge of my seats, even if I can predict it, it still surprises me.

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I think this is the year that we might just see the best dramas. The year of really good dramas. Signal is intense no joke and i believe there is more to come, especially Detective Lee death plus a series of cold cases.

I watched all about mom and cried my eyes out then this episode. So heartbreaking.

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the movie theater scene at the end killed me! drama what are you doing to me ? :(

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*correction!
Hae-young pays a visit to Won-kyung’s mother
→ no, she is Won-kyung's AUNT. She also grew up without a mother like the MURDERER.

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Aughhhh,.. one of the most heart breaking episode (and the best episode so far)..

That moment when Jae-han let the killer go down,..
i thought he will be coma, or dead,.. bbuttt he still alive,..
like the family of the victim, i cry along with them,
Salute to the pd, writer and all the team members to this drama, they can deliver such a good story to watch.

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Thank you for the recap Heads! It never occured to me that Jae-han could save Hae-young's brother in the past.

God, this episode had me bawling like a baby, for the Mum, the daughter, Soo-hyun and of course Jae-han stuck in the past :(
I too am wondering how many times this cycle has repeated and if there is a set number of repeats before Jae-han or Hae-young dies?

Is there a rule with altering the past through the transmissions, in order to save a life, someone must die. I mean death can't be cheated or avoided?
With regards to that scene in 1989 where Jae-han is ambushed and injured, who calls him out to the hospital? Is it Hae-yang who warns him not to go, or is it a plot by the police director/chief who wants him gone?

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The last scene broke my heart! Keep it up Signal!

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Thanks Heads!

This is still one of the best of the current crop of shows. I helps to ground me after the quirky weird of Cheese, the cheesy fun of Moorim, the hilarious absurdity of OMHappy Ending and preposterous MadameA.

Yes, so well acted indeed! Everyone of our main characters feels so real and rounded, with so much story to tell and so able to evoke my heartfelt sentiments. I was in tears and still had to burst out laughing at the cinema scene. It was incongruous and so apt.

I was hoping we'd have a new case to solve every 2 episodes, but what Heads says about the overall past... yes... how about preventing the gang rape that got Hae Young's brother convicted?, how about preventing the first kidnapping of the little girl when Hae Young was a child? And so we continue in the time paradox ... will what was as we knew it continue to be and does Jae Han have to stay dead? ? ;)

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You're watching so many dramas! I am jealous! I have no time these days :(

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Don't be jealous... I have to steal time and then make up for it like crazy!!! Well, addiction is ... addiction.... what can I say??? :D

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:)

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I was thinking maybe the high school gang rape case is modeled after Miryang Gang Rape? That's the first thought that came to my mind.

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Really? I should look it up.

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Im so speechless after searching and reading about it.it was sooo bad.. :(

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I'm absolutely horrified just reading about. How will I watch it, especially when this episode was heartbreaking and gut wrenching already?

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Heads ~

Thanks for the recap. Yay for Kim Hye-Soo and Jo Jing-woong. Yay for tvN, content trend leader, for consistantly providing quality programming.

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Signal is the first K-drama I've watched in yearssss and damn I'm so glad I did! I decided to go for it when I saw the positive feedback from the first ep. Ugh, so good.

This imo is the most intense & emotional ep yet (and also my fave), but maybe that has to do with all the tears I shed while watching it..... ahahaha..... that theater scene at the end - Jo Jin Woong didn't even need words and he had me bawling my eyes out. He's freaking amazing. This whole cast is amazing. I somehow see what others have been saying about Lee Je Hoon overacting, but it never bothered me. I think his character demands that intensity. I like how the flashback(s) show the more human side of Soo Hyun, and not just this cold toughie we see now.

I do wonder about the time loop as well - how come Jae Han in ep2 seems to know that it will all start again? Have they been through all this before, and have to change something else in order to stop the cycle? How come Hae Young can only talk to Jae Han at 11:23PM but it seems like that specific time doesn't matter to Jae Han? Since in that transmission when Hae Young asks Jae Han if he saved Won Kyung, it was night in Hae Young's time but it was morning in Jae Han's.. does time move differently in their universes?? Cos if Jae Han in 2000 still speaks to Hae Young, Hae Young would be in.. 2026??? How come he's still a Lieutenant by then? (Jae Han addresses Hae Young as 'Lieutenant Park' in ep 1 right) Don't tell he he hasn't been promoted in 11 years? Lol. So many questions!!! But so many episodes left anyways!

I can only hope for the show to continue being amazinggg. Please don't disappoint down the line! I hope all the the rest of the eps can be as good as these first 4!

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Also, does anyone else see a young Uhm Tae Woong in Lee Je Hoon? Lol.

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No, not UTW. Kang Ji Hwan.

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I feel like Super Junior's Henry and Lee Je Hoon are exactly the same. Lol. I wonder if it's a strange coincidence or if one imitated the other and did surgery.

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They could pass as brother! Even twins. Even their way of speaking is similar.

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Now that you mentioned it, they look quite similar...except for the nose. Henry has really unique heart shaped nosethat I hope he will never do plastic surgery for.:)

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Hi @ Bongsookie?

Glad to see you here. BTW, 10 Feb is our Healer Ep 20 Recap thread's first anniversary. How about coming on the thread on that day to congratulate err... each other? :D

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It seems like there is not a specific fixed year gap between Jae Han and Hae Young transmission, as in Hae Young could have talk to Jae Han of any time as long as both of them have the walkie talkie. So Jae Han in ep2 knows that he will talk to Hae Young again because his earliest encounter with Hae Young (over transmission) was in year 1989, in ep2 he was in 2000 (?).

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My only explanation probably because in the past, Lee Jaehan already received the transmission by Park Haeyoung but everything didn't go as planned --or he decided to pass it. That's why Jaehan asked Haeyoung to persuade him in 1989 (again) to solve the cases (again). It's really hard to explain and I can only refer to Edge of Tomorrow, when Tom Cruise had to died thousand times to find the mother alien. But again, Lee Jaehan's first acounter to Park Haeyoung in the first episode didn't really indicate my theory so, it's still confusing and we need more episode to evaluate it. If there's another answer to this, it would be really good.

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Thank you for the recap!! I am enjoying this show so much!

It was sooo sad to see Won Kyung die. If only Jung Kyung Soon had gone to her rescue. But then again, she might have been terrified of being murdered too. She could have gone to the police to testify though.

I still don't understand how the son FORGOT that there was a third girl on the bus. Or maybe he didn't get a chance to kill her before he became paralyzed?

I was super mad at the father who was justifying his killer son. He spoke like his son had the saddest life ever. Sure, being left alone at his home as a child is not safe and having no mother is sad; but he had a loving father. And even if he had a sad life, it's no excuse for raping/murdering innocent women.

On a lighter note, my heart fluttered when Hye Young went closer to Soo Hyun and touched her face :)

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Actually Jung Kyung-soon wasn't on the bus. She was at terminal and saw 2 girls and the killer and the driver getting off the bus.

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jung kyung soon saw the son when he got off the bus.. she wasn't on the bus and the son did not see her..

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Ok thank you for clearing that up Sun and y :)

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On a lighter note, my heart fluttered when Hye Young went closer to Soo Hyun and touched her face :)

haha.me too.

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:)

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Awesome awesome AWESOME!! This is getting me right in the Misaeng feels like when Im Siwan was on his knees in his apartment crying he was sorry. OMG...this drama is just killing it. I'm so happy to see everyone who's commenting being happy and complimentary. It's hard not to love this drama. We are all witnessing something great. That last scene in the theater...omo.......

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If you are having problems with timelibe, try to follow it by date. All the years stacked upon each other. The kidnapping and death of little girl happened in summer. This serial murders happened early fall. There will be other unsolved cases in later date but differentry year. Jaeven han might stumble onto evidence and that might get him killed.

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This drama keeps getting better and better with each passing episode! I'm so hooked!!!

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i think next episodes will be about how lee jae han death, and the behind it is the chief police that looks so creepy for me, since him and his big boss say something about handle the problem like handle about lee jae han 15 years ago. And Hae Young didn't know that lee jae han already dead right?

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my only complaint about the show is that the murderers are one-dimensional. as though they are simply born to kill - one a narcissist, the other a psychopath. done. they are simply reduced for their mental illnesses.

call me callous, but I think even way the psychopath kills women in a detailed manner is a story worth telling. why the knots? why the opposite of fetal position? even the way the narcissist woman internalized sexism is a story worth telling.

I guess this, for me, is the ultimate "convenience" of the show (apart from its logical aspect, of course). that reducing these criminals as merely bad guys that we need to punish makes the detectives/law enforcers' job easier, less complicated or challenging.

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That's one thing that I thought fell short too. I can't think of a good reason why the nurse had to kill Yoon Jung except that she saw her face. The other case would have been better if the reason was more than just he's a psychopath. The actual killing were more intricate than that to the point where people think you'd die when you wear red when it's raining. Like why red? Why do it when it rains? What was the special knot for? So many questions but considering how the real case was never solved, I guess they can only do so much in the drama.

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The part about wearing red and walking in the rain was a reference to the real murders and also to the movie memories of murder.

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Oops sorry I read your comment wrong but I agree I wish they had elaborated more on those aspects.

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was won kyung the original 9th victim from the first time line? if she wasn't, it's kinda sad cuz she shouldnt have died. jae han would have inadvertently caused her death by saving the 7th victim by the train tracks......

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Indeed she was originally to die . It just tht after the changes, the time and location of the victim was change .

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I wonder when will Soo Hyun witness and hear the communication between the two men so she'll be able to become a part of it.

Maybe once she finds out about it, she'll do her best to help Jae Han escape from death. But like the anime Steins;Gate , I'm pretty sure that if ever they try to save a life, another one will lost his/hers. Maybe in the process, if ever they become successful in saving Jae Han, one of them may end up dead. *fingers crossed

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Omo glad you mentioned Steins;Gate...I love that anime! Their whole concept of time travel is so interesting :D though I feel for the guy who had to watch someone he considers family die over and over again no matter how hard he tried to save her.

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me too! I love how they made the concept interesting even in an anime form.

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Glad I had those tissues on hand.

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Only k-drama I am actively watching right now, and I must say this has more impact than any 3 of the usual formula love triangle dramas. Totally hooked.

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This drama is good but it seems to be like the movie "the phone" which came out in 2015.

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I haven't been watching just reading but I watched this episode whilst packing. It made me shout in anger so many times. What exactly happened whilst the lady detective was asking who the real killer is??? Why was he silent FOREVER. *Me screaming at laptop*

Cowardly blackmail lady couldn't even scream out for help to make the killer run away? *Screams at laptop*

The biggest head ache of all. HOW DID EVERYONE KNOW THE BUS DRIVER HAD A SON IN HIS EARLY 20S AND DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER CHECKING ON THE SON? DID THEY REALLY MANAGE TO QUESTION THE WHOLE BUS STATION WITHOUT THE SON BEING MENTIONED?? HOW????

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Haha how about the fact the son just wore black clothing and hat all the time? Hmmm in a small area like that do you think he could be a suspect????

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EXACTLY T_T

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Meddling with the past surely will have some repercursions in the current day timeline. The victim who was saved and had a child who was not supposed to exist at all, how will that change things. Will wait to see how this pans out and what happened to Detective Lee Jae Han.

This drama is quite gripping in its execution.

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Btw he seems to be so concerned with her neck ( mentioning twice : dont face men alone and the ladies neck shouldnt look like that)..

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That ep made the policeman man of the past my favorite character of the show.

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Currenthly marathon-watching this and Oh My God this episode sealed the deal for me!! Loved it from Ep 1 but after this one, argh! The feels! TT_TT

Stellar directing and even more stellar acting all around, this drama has gotten me deep into it like Reply 88. Hands down one of the best dramas ever made!

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This episode moved me and angered me at the same time. Why they have to make all the killers so one-dimensional? And why the dad of the killer made no sense? I understand that you did not want the police to find out your son was the killer, so why didn't you stop your son? From what I see, he knew that his son went after Won Kyung and he could stopped that boy, but he just let his son do whatever he want. Why???

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can anyone explain, why they can arrest murderer of Gyeonggi serial murderer with is the statue limitation due 2004 not the Yoon-jung abduction?

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Because it's the Yoon-jung case that made the laws change. So, you can assume that the women who killed Yoon-jung got another murder added to her case, even if they didn't show it.

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I know I'm really, really late.

But I just watched the episode and cried a river. Everything about the episode was so sensitive and real. The two sides of humanity - cruelty and righteousness.

I love how the mood of the show - dark and somber - is a polar opposite of what the writer is trying to tell us.

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