The Time I’ve Loved You: Episode 16 (Final)
by HeadsNo2
There’s nothing that’ll surprise anyone here, which shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone who’s been following along. But alas, we’ve finally reached the end of a road with way too many unnecessary detours for its own good, one where the destination is so padded and fluffy (and two hours long!) that it theoretically should make up for the journey, and whether it does is or not is up to you. If nothing else, there’s at least plenty of Hana and Won—but you know what they say about having too much of a good thing.
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FINAL EPISODE RECAP
After showing off some shoes and their features, Hana is the last to leave work after a long day. She calls Won on her walk home and asks if she can see him tomorrow instead—she’s too tired today.
The next day, Won finds that he has a parasitic attachment in the form of Hana, who clings to his back as a form of support so she can spend less effort walking.
He turns around so he can hold her in his arms instead, which turns into them falling onto the couch giggling and kissing… until Mi-hyang walks in. Hana’s mortified after she goes, but Won is all, Let’s just pick up where we left off!
Hana, unimpressed, jokingly throws a pillow at his face. Won stops her from leaving by enveloping her in a bear hug that succeeds in getting them back on the couch.
Teacher Park caters to Mi-hyang’s every whim when it comes to her pregnant appetite, and offers his house for them to live in after she complains about finding Won and Hana in her house. Mi-hyang thought he’d say that, and already prepared the moving van.
Remember when Dae-bok stole Won’s Confession Script from his sister’s room? Thanks to a link sent from Na-young, Hana finds a webtoon entitled “I Will Never Love You” written and drawn by none other than Dae-bok. It’s almost a frame-by-frame likeness of Hana and Won’s high school days, but in cartoon form instead.
Hana takes her brother to task for it when he gets home, though he claims the webtoon is super popular and that the people really love her and Won. (At least someone does.) Their parents don’t openly say they’re proud of their son, but they become absorbed in reading the comic online nonetheless.
Won is the next one to read the webtoon, but he’s proud of Dae-bok for chasing his dreams and not at all upset that his story was stolen. What does upset him is that Hana’s suddenly become a workaholic, and it’s interfering with plans they’ve made together.
She continues that fight into the next morning, claiming that there’s nothing wrong with her being dedicated to her work. He says she’s always complaining that she’s tired, and while he’s not telling her to stop working, he thinks that a little moderation would be good for her. Besides, they haven’t spent any time together recently.
Hana defends that she’s only getting so much work because she’s responsible, only for Won to shoot back that if she was so responsible, she wouldn’t be changing their plans all the time. “What’s your priority, exactly?” he asks.
She sputters that she always spends the weekends with him, but Won counters that it doesn’t really count as time spent together when she’s just working int he same room as him. This isn’t something they’ll resolve today, so they huff and puff and part angrily.
At work, Hana’s idea proposal for a new project is passed over in favor of Assistant Hong and Min-ji’s idea. Since Team Leader Hwang is now pro-Hana, she tries to cheer her up by saying that her team members flourished only because she’s such a good leader.
Na-young calls Hana to recognize that it must’ve been hard for her to see her hoobaes take the limelight away, to which Hana asks her, “Am I being too childish?” Yes.
Won worries to one of the Three Stooges that his fights with Hana are just going to get more frequent, since he can’t seem to stop himself from fighting over minor things with her.
His coworker tells him to keep at it though, since it’s a fight for dominance Won has to win. Watch this be the one piece of advice his coworkers give him that he actually applies.
Hana works late again, and thinks of Won when she sees her ex and Min-ji being all cute and cozy. Meanwhile, Won’s mother sends him a pair of traditional wedding hanbok—one for him and one for Hana.
Mi-hyang tells Won that she’s going to move in with Teacher Park, give birth to her child, and then get married. Won is surprised by her progressive stance, but Mi-hyang makes it seem more like she’s old and may as well do what she wants.
Hana goes over to Won’s house when he doesn’t call her after getting home from work, and it’s clear by his one-word answers to her questions that he’s upset. She turns up the aegyo as she tells him that she gave what he said some thought, and realized she has been working a lot.
At the same time, she was passed up by her hoobaes, when she wants to be recognized for her work too. Won scoffs that thanks to that, he’s becoming less of an interest for her, and when she pouts to the contrary he adds tersely, “Just don’t forget that there are a lot of things more important than work.”
She knows he’s still angry, so she calls him up to tell him to go to his window. While staring at each other from their rooms, Won can tell Hana’s feeling sorry, so he wants her to apologize. She does.
Then he wants her to say the magic words he wants to hear, which are: “My number one priority is Choi Won, not work.” His anger eases a little, though his smile seems to give away more.
So-eun gets asked out to a movie by one of the Three Stooges, and even when he’s rebuffed, he tells her he’ll wait for her regardless. When she asks how long he’ll wait, he says an hour, maybe two—but she tells him it’ll be at least a year’s wait. He still clings to that little shred of hope.
Won goes over to Hana’s house for dinner, and is given one minute to visit Hana in her room by her father (no funny business). He brings her the hanbok-inspired dress his mother sent before enveloping her in a back hug and asking what’s in her room that reminds her of him.
She points to an alarm clock he gave her, and says the rest aren’t as visible—the necklace, the whistle, the script, and some eye cream. Won vows to do more to increase his presence in her room by giving her more things, even though Hana insists that he’s already given her the gift of being by her side.
Hana comes down to dinner wearing the dress Won’s mother gave her, and though the style is more classic than she’s used to, she twirls in it and loves it all the same.
All of a sudden, Won tells her father, “I want to live with you.” To her mother, he says, “I love you.” Then he holds Hana’s hand for them to see as he declares that he wants to grow old with them as their son and Hana’s husband.
As to whether he’s proposing to her family or to her, Won says he’s proposing to both of them. If Dad is the person he wants to live with, and Mom is the person he loves, then what does that make Hana? “Hana is… just mine,” Won replies. He turns to her for verification. “You’re mine, aren’t you?”
She agrees, even though she’s still a bit taken aback by the suddenness of it all. That’s when Dae-bok bursts in to say that his webtoon is in talks for a movie deal now, but in order to assuage his noona’s anger for taking her story, he promises her eighty percent of the sales when they get married.
“Then give it to me now since I’m getting married,” Hana blurts before she realizes what she’s saying. Everyone picks up on the way she said she mentioned marriage so easily, which serves as her acceptance of Won’s proposal.
On their rooftop hideout later that night, Hana admits that she never once thought they’d get married, only for Won to say that he first had the thought in high school. She’d helped him so much after his mom left that he knew then he wanted to live with her. And then didn’t do anything about it for seventeen years.
He’s shocked that she never considered it, though she replies that she didn’t need to when she knew she’d always have him by her side regardless. But of course he naturally doesn’t take it well when she tells him she’s going on a business trip, and even though he’s acting childish, he childishly asks Hana if she still likes him.
Of course she does, Hana says with a smile. Cue him grabbing her in another bear hug and loads of laughter.
Manager Yoon arranges a meeting for Hana and Seo-hoo, since he’s come back to Korea for a concert. Their meeting is amicable, with Seo-hoo noting how nice it is to see Hana smiling. Hana, in turn, says he’s changed too—he has the air of an accomplished musician now.
“I tried really hard,” Seo-hoo admits. “I have to succeed that much in exchange for losing you.” He didn’t say that to make her feel bad, and Hana doesn’t take it that way. Instead, she says that he’s best with a piano on stage, and any fan of his music would think the same.
Seo-hoo asks if that means she’s a fan, to which Hana nods. He tells her his hopes that they can meet comfortably like this should they ever run into each other again in the future, and Hana agrees. They both smile.
While flying to her business trip destination, Hana is given a flower from a steward who claims it’s free. Then a ring box is presented to her by a steward who says he thinks she dropped it while boarding…
…And she looks up to see none other than Won. He wasn’t set to work today, but changed his schedule so he could escort her to her destination. He kneels in front of her, opens the box, and asks if she’ll hang out with him for the rest of their lives.
The passengers start chanting for her to accept his proposal, and Hana takes the rings in her hand before giving her reply: “Fine, I’ll hang out with you forever.” Their special moment is commemorated with in-flight pictures.
Now that Dae-bok is famous for his webtoon, Hana and Won are interviewed, since it’s their story. The interviewer thinks they’ve been through quite a journey and asks Hana to describe her feelings about her upcoming marriage.
Hana smiles before she says it’ll be like living with her friend at her friend’s house for the rest of their lives.
It’s their wedding day, and Hana gets dressed with the help of her friends in her room. Mom comments that she and Won are amazing, since even married couples would be tired of each other after spending as much time together as they have.
Her father’s only advice is that loving is easy, but living together is hard. Unlike Mom, he’s not upset over the small wedding Hana’s chosen to have, which takes place on the street outside. It’s cute that they’ll be coming from their own houses and meeting in the middle.
Everyone they know is in attendance as Dad walks his daughter down the modified aisle, where Won waits with an enormous grin. As Hana passes by guests holding up pictures from her and Won’s past, she thinks back to all the times they’d hurt each other because they couldn’t be honest.
At the same time, Hana realizes that without those hurdles, they wouldn’t be where they are now. That’s when her father gives her to Won, who happily declares, “Let’s go to the house you’ll live in!”
As they walk down the improvised aisle, we hear Hana say in voiceover that they didn’t need anything fancier than this. They follow the path Hana says they’ve both taken countless times up to Won’s house, which will now be her new house. And with that short jaunt, their little wedding has come to an end.
Won elatedly promises their small group of guests that they’ll live well before kissing the bride in front of them. I’m guessing they already signed their marriage licenses since no wedding ceremony actually takes place. No vows? Nothing?
In an effort to make his familiar house look a little different for her, Won decks out the place with heart balloons and other decorations. There’s an awkward moment where he hugs Hana for a long time before breaking off and whooping, “I’m married to Oh Hana! Manse!”
Hana has to stop him from his balloon-punching energy spree to set some ground rules: if there’s ever a time where they’re angry at each other, the person who committed the wrong has to do their best to comfort the other with presents, aegyo, and free coupons.
And, she adds, they’ll have to allow each other time alone—but Won finds that thought repugnant. Maybe in ten years, he allows. But for now, he presents their wedding bands and says the “Will you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband” ceremonial words in a much more intimate setting.
Hana gives her “I do,” then asks the same of Won. Will he cherish and love her until the day he dies? He gives his “I do” before taking it a step further: Will she love him until death, and then when she’s reborn again? “I promise,” she says. Won: “Me too.”
They kiss in their new home as Hana says in voiceover, “In this very familiar place, we have to try our hardest to fill our lives with new moments of happiness.”
Eight months later. Summer.
In a house filled with pictures of their wedding, Won annoys Hana in the early morning by singing Taeyang’s “Eyes, Nose, Lips” loudly in the shower. If Hana’s going to complain about how she’s not getting her quiet time in the morning, then Won feels free to complain about waking up with cramps from her sleeping with her legs slung over his at night.
But of course, no one’s really complaining, so Hana can only get so frustrated. Won is like a puppy following her around during her morning routine, happy enough just to watch her put on makeup and shoes so the paying public can watch her put on makeup and shoes.
Quick cut to Hana doing well at work, and then to Dae-bok drawing a webtoon version of Assistant Hong at her request. That’s really all there is to it.
Once at home, Hana takes a look at her calendar and realizes something’s amiss. Yes, it’s exactly what you’re thinking—she’s pregnant. Despite all the work she’s mired in, she reveals this to Won, who’s over the moon at the prospect of becoming a father.
Mi-hyang has a healthy baby girl with the support of Teacher Park, and while she says the baby is ugly at first, she eventually takes to it. I’m trying here, but I literally can’t add anything that will make any of these scenes seem like more than they are. It’s just so boring.
While looking at pictures of Won’s new niece, Hana reveals some thoughts she’s been having about their future to Won. She envisions holding hands with their child, who’ll be holding one of Won’s hands. At the same time, she envisions a baby on Won’s back, and a baby standing in front of him.
“So how many children is that?” Won asks wonderingly. Hana adds that since he wanted her to prove her love for him, she’ll prove it by giving birth to children who look like them.
Still, she cautions that the future is about to get a whole lot more chaotic, and she may not always be able to hold her anger in. “I’m still afraid, and everything’s vague,” she says, but Won envelops her in his arms and tells her that he’ll help her with everything. “Thank you, Hana. Thank you.”
They buy a sponsored set of wedding bands for Hana’s parents in order to butter them up for the news that she’s pregnant. Mom’s upset at the bit of trickery, but Dad isn’t, and happily places one of the bands on Mom’s hand. “Thank you for marrying me and living with me,” he tells Mom.
Hana hands the reins for one of her big work projects over to Assistant Hong and Min-ji, who wonder what’s come over their boss. She reveals that she’s pregnant and will be focusing on her new life now, but she’ll still support their work.
After a brief cut to So-eun dating the coworker who liked her, we make it back to Hana as she opens the invitation for Seo-hoo’s upcoming recital. Oh come on, he did not take eight months off his European tour to do a domestic concert when all that fuss was made over canceling every domestic concert he had. And if this is a different concert, then it makes all that hubbub even more moot than it was before.
Hana sends him flowers and a note wishing him the best for his performance, and Seo-hoo vows to do better than his best just for her. He smiles despite looking like he’s about to succumb to a wasting disease.
Meanwhile, Hana has to contend with Won, who’s angry at her for missing their dinner date the night before because of work. But that’s just one of many complaints he has against her, prompting Hana to retort back with her own list of Won-related complaints.
Since there’d be no end to the things they could whine about, Hana packs her suitcase and takes it all the way to her parent’s house next door. This must be a common thing, since neither Mom or Dad blinks an eye as she carts her suitcase upstairs, before Won comes to help her cart it back down to his house.
They make up after their argument, and Won tells her that he signed them up for lamaze classes so she can learn how to help herself through a natural birth. Won’s all excited about the idea of filming the process too, but Hana’s not for lamaze classes and definitely not for a straight-to-DVD horror movie.
“We went from being longtime friends to being a married couple, and we fought and made up countless times. We hated each other and then we loved each other, repeating the cycle over and over again. You must give as much love as you receive. We learned to put that into action so we can maintain our love,” Hana says in voiceover.
We find her leaving work for the airport, where she holds up a sign for Won reading: “I will miss you every day and wait for you. I love you, One To One!” She has to explain how their names both mean “one,” and when Won gets it, he kisses her and laughs.
As they walk away arm in arm, Hana gives one last voiceover: “That magic that turns everyday life into something special thanks to a certain someone. It happens in me and in us every day. Because we love [each other].”
COMMENTS
No no no, you don’t get to cop out with that last line, The Time I Waxed Philosophical. You don’t get to act like you were an innocuous slice of life drama that made magic out of those small, everyday little moments. You don’t get to act like you were just shining a meaningful light on the special snowflake that is our shared human experience by telling an overly simplistic yet somehow confoundingly convoluted story about friends turning into lovers. Yes, magic can exist in the smallest places sometimes, but this show was not one of those places.
Still, there was never a point where I didn’t want to care about these characters, and that has never been made clearer to me than in this episode. I wanted to care so badly that I started getting angry that I just couldn’t anymore, even as Won and Hana professed their love, got married, got pregnant, and had stupid arguments for the sake of having stupid arguments because the writers thought that it’d make their relationship seem more realistic. (It didn’t.) There were things happening on-screen that, in some alternate universe, should have mattered—but somewhere before or near the midpoint the show just lost its way and took any emotional investment I might’ve had with it.
I know that people can change in relationships, but who knew Won would transform from a guy who supported Hana wholeheartedly in everything she did—even when she was with an absolute douchebag who he saw being super shady with other women (twice!)—into a guy who gets easily annoyed at every little thing? Were there hints of this needy, whiny version of Won before that I totally missed? As soon as his relationship with Hana became official, he got way too close to becoming another Seo-hoo for my liking. It was probably supposed to be cute(?) that he didn’t want to be away from Hana long enough to give her personal space or to let her work without making her feel guilty about it. Right?
And really, while we can point to a myriad of factors that contributed to the show’s decline, it all seems to source back to the writer switch that took place after the first two weeks. It’s hard to say whether the show would’ve stayed on track had it kept its original writers, but there was an undeniable sort of charm about those first four episodes that went extinct over the course of the series, turning what was supposed to be real life and real people into pantomimes instead. Motivations would change at will because the only time a character really stuck to their guns was when Hana decided she’d start over with Seo-hoo, until she just decided to stop doing that one day.
It’s kind of a shame, because if she’d handled the breakup differently, or if we felt at all like her reasons for breaking up with him were because she’d finally realized what a dirtbag he was, maybe she could’ve brought us back into her world. Everyone makes mistakes, and her turning into a black hole void of personality could’ve just been chalked up as a big one—but then everything revolved around the Hana who sucked while she was with Seo-hoo without spending any time on the Hana who broke up with him. It was all setup and no payoff, so much so that I still don’t think Hana ever realized internally that Seo-hoo was bad for her, probably because she never realized internally who she was or what she wanted.
That same trend of spending too much time on the problem and not enough on the solution can be traced back to the show’s early stages, which is why the payoffs we did get ended up feeling so unearned. Motivation means everything, and when that’s not properly laid out, the rest of the story falters. At the same time, deciding to spend two episodes on Won and Hana’s court-mandated happily ever after doesn’t count as a solution, because the transition from Won and Hana as friends into Won and Hana as lovers failed somewhere along the way.
But that’s neither here nor there at this point, since a book could (but really, really shouldn’t) be written on how this show went went awry, and also how there is zero historical precedent for a show that’s switched writers out and actually gotten better. All you can do is learn from this, dramaland. Learn from this.
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1 Raqeena
August 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM
Wow. That was an interesting drama. I'm glad I resorted to just the recaps lol. Ha Ji Won's next project hwaiting! xD
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jp
August 18, 2015 at 11:47 PM
Hello everyone.. Can you please give me recommendation for any 2015 K-Romantic Comedy? Been busy lately, thanks :) would love to watch Korean dramas again.
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jam
August 18, 2015 at 11:52 PM
try oh my ghostess with park boyoung and jo jung suk! it has a thriller/mystery aspect to it too.
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Fitri Iphiet
August 19, 2015 at 2:27 AM
yups, oh my ghostess is highly recommended. but i'll add Kill Me Heal me.. it's bittersweet comedy (haha, i dont know how to describe the genre, sorry) and producer, but for producer, you need to wait until ep 5.. :)
right now, yongpal is on fire. :)
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Shalini
August 19, 2015 at 5:40 AM
I recommend Kill Me Heal Me and Fated to love you (which is 2014 but still quite fun). If you're going for a dash of spy/thriller in addition to the rom com, Healer's pretty awesome. And if you like bickering cops, cake-decorating men in aprons and brilliant heartwrenching characters I recommend 'I Remember You' :)
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Cerulea
August 19, 2015 at 6:02 AM
To add to the ones above, Ex-Girlfriend's Club and Falling for Innocence, its not everyone's cup of tea but I really really liked them :)
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riya
August 19, 2015 at 8:21 AM
Girl Who Sees Smells....it has the cutest couple of 2015
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TheTruthHurts
August 19, 2015 at 6:44 PM
I have been avoiding dramabeans like the plague all throughout the duration of this drama and It's the best decision i ever made! I just can't handle too much negativity and one-sided ignorant writing from HeadsNo2. The person assigned to recap a drama should always be neutral and unbiased. Such an incompetent person to be given such a task. *tsk tsk tsk dramabeans.. HeadsNo2 is no different from the regular whinny delusional fan girls posting ignorant riduculous comments for this drama. Pick the right person next time. Moving on.. As a HUGE Ha Ji Won fan i must admit that The Time We Were Not In Love is not her best drama ever (No K-drama can beat Hwang Ji Yi and Secret Garden in my eyes) but she was fantastic in this nonetheless and that's all that matters. Her superb acting is why i stayed loyal to this drama. I have never seen an actress or even actor effortlessly convey their emotions through every part of their body in scenes without dialogues. She's so freaking good! The way she utilizes her expressive eyes for every emotion is mind blowing. Not all actors can do that! I cried with her during the heartbreaking scenes, laugh with her in those goofy comedic shtick she had, feel all giddy during those heart fluttering moments and fell in love along with her when she finally found Mr.right. In short, Ha Ji Won did a fantastic job making people like me relate with O Ha Na in a realistic way. Good Job Ha Ji Won! I find it so brave of her to accept a drama with such a simple realistic story line when other actors in her superstar status and top-notch a-list level like her only accepts big budget and production dramas. This made me even love her more, if that is even possible lol.. The Time We Were Not In Love is not a perfect drama like any other K-drama. What made it stand out for me is the simplicity of the story and how realistic it is. Having a good slice of reality is good sometimes because reality is life is never perfect. We fall in love, we fall out of love, We all make stupid mistakes but the important thing how we come out as a better person in the end. Thank you The Time We Were Not In Love for helping me have that realization about life. Till Ha Ji Won's next Daebak drama! Hopefully dramabeans would assign a competent, mature, open-mined, neutral unbiased re-capper. Leave the ignorance to the regular fan girls in the comment section. Peace out!
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windsun33
August 19, 2015 at 7:09 PM
It is really hard to be positive with such an awful drama.
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AP
August 19, 2015 at 8:20 PM
"Leave the ignorance to the regular fan girls in the comment section", like you I'm assuming.
I have so much more to say to this ridiculous comment but I can't take you seriously.
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evw09
August 19, 2015 at 9:06 PM
.....Um...
1. Wow and Whoa....
2. I'm not drinking the Dramabeans Kool-Aid or anything, but I think someone needs to have some reflection time. If you've followed a drama via Dramabeans even once you know all their writers interject their personal opinions throughout the course of the recap/series. (Is it necessary for me to call to your attention the comment section on every single recap post?) That's a huge part of the allure and draw to the site, unless I missed something. In 7+ years this fact remains the same. To come to someone's site just to bash them for doing something that drew you to them is asinine at best.
3. You are at liberty to keep your opinion to yourself. Freedom of speech can also be exercised by not speaking.
4. So, I guess I am sipping the Dramabeans Kool-Aid but that's okay because I like the flavor. And I plan to come back for more.
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alua
August 20, 2015 at 1:59 AM
+1
There's a huge difference between fangirl/boy ranting and commentary + critical analysis as we get here on Dramabeans from every single writer. (You are ranting by the way. You have not pointed us to a single specific scene and explained in what manner HJW is effectively demonstrating her skills. In fact, if we take out the drama title your post could be about any romantic drama HJW ever acted in.)
Plus, who are any of us to say what "should" or "should not" be in a recap or in any post of Dramabeans. You are free to set up your own drama blog, but here, Javabeans and Girlfriday & their recappers get to decide what they post, how they post and also when they post. They provide a completely free service which you have every right not to use.
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alua
August 20, 2015 at 2:30 AM
"You" meaning TheTruthHurts, not evw09, in case that wasn't clear!
nomad
August 20, 2015 at 4:19 PM
+1 @evw09
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DrDavis
August 19, 2015 at 11:56 PM
I love Dramabeans sassy recaps. What you are asking for is a dry synopsis; the kind we wrote in high school. But really, this drama was just BAD. No offense to the actors, the writing really failed. Readin the Dramabeans recaps was the only enjoyable thing about this show.
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OMG it's Healer ?
August 20, 2015 at 12:53 AM
+100
It takes a lot for a person to stick with a bad drama til the end. Head's recap was the only thing enjoyable about this show and quite frankly I appreciate her analyses a lot.
Thanks Heads for writing this recap!! ?
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WispyCurls
August 20, 2015 at 4:05 PM
Peace out girl ! lol don't know if your comment was a joke or serious one.
If it was serious - you really need to check your fan girl status at the door, and take off those rose-coloured glasses. I'm a HUGE Ha Ji Won fan (seen everything she's done since her debut), but even I can see what a trainwreak of a drama this was in comparison to her others.
Also, like 99% of the peeps on here, we come here to read snarky/funny/sassy opinion reviews, whether I agree with them or not - and with this review I wholeheartedly agree !
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eerinmide
August 21, 2015 at 8:40 PM
Oh my God, the problem with fangirls. Let me quickly point out that NO ONE held a gun to your head and forced you to come on this site. If you were avoiding dramabeans because you knew the comments would have been negative, that means you knew deep inside that this was just a horrible drama. Frankly, I checked out after episode 6... because no matter how much I love Ha Ji Won, it could not make up for this monstrosity, and the only thing I looked forward to after that was the review (Lol, I always love it when the recappers hate a drama. The dry humor/sarcasm practically makes up for whatever horrible show is going on..cue Dr Stranger :(.)(Although nothing beats when the recappers LOVE a drama and i can just feel us doing the fangirl dance together.. Cue HEALER!!! That Healer craze was the pinnacle of my journey into Hallyu). Anyways, your comment was rude. Do not be coming on someone's else site to act like a spoilt brat who can't take someone else having a different opinion from hers... So Adolf Hitler-y of you. If you want a high school paper description, please start your own blog. (And I do not know about you, but my opinions were a huge part of those papers). Oh and to the dramabeans team: You guys are the reason I am addicted to Korean drama. My Nigerian mother has no idea what to do with me. I rarely even watch dramas that arent being recapped here. Like 'Oh, its not on dramabeans? Bleh, not worth it'.
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2 yayabean
August 18, 2015 at 9:01 PM
Kudos to you, Heads No.2, for getting through this drama.
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3 growingbeautifully
August 18, 2015 at 9:08 PM
Thanks a million Heads for continuing to the bitter end with this recap. It's been great reading you. I agree with what you have said.
The little of this final episode that I FFD to watch (10 - 20 minutes worth) was enough to show me that there would be no pay off investing the entire hour. I am still sad for the actors and aggrieved at the production. I'd like to know and feel that a show respects the viewers, but so many decisions made were not explained and seemed so random, it was as if the show felt that it didn't matter if viewer's minds were engaged or not, or... just giving us pretty would be enough to satisfy us.
The show really could have done both, ie given us the pretty and the good reasons to be engaged in every decision that Ha Na and Won made, and it would have made it as an acceptably good show. Personally, it was just a show to while the time away, with no satisfaction at the end of it. However I'm glad that there are some who have managed to enjoy it regardless. :)
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nomad
August 20, 2015 at 4:24 PM
Thank you, Heads!
So I checked the final recap on this drama, since I really, really loved how the original drama ended. I loved that it was about how two people working on their marriage, and in THAT drama, I get how hard it was that when the heroine of the drama feud with her husband, she had a hard time because the ONLY person she really wanted to vent to is her best friend, who happened to also be her husband. How crazy is that? But I love, love it so much that out of the countless dramas I've watched, the ending stayed with me. It seems like this version missed that completely...what a shame...
Anyhooo...on to the next new project! Hope both the actor (who I love, but forgot his name...) and HJW get better projects than this....
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4 An
August 18, 2015 at 9:20 PM
I was interested in the bffs to lovers trope and wanted to check it out but never got around to it. I'm glad I stayed away and also that none of my biases got tangled in this.
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5 lordseungri
August 18, 2015 at 9:24 PM
Omg it's over FINALLY! I gave up on this show Episode 4 and came back to read this recap. Bless those who watched all episodes.
I guess this drama is added to the rather long list of disappointments this year in dramland (though not as bad as Hyde Jekyll Me)
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kimchikay
August 19, 2015 at 9:43 PM
Amen to that sista.
So many potential dramas have ended in utter disappoint.
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6 Cerulea
August 18, 2015 at 9:28 PM
Thanks for the recap!
I must admit I stopped after ep 7 or 8 and came occasionally to read the recaps. The original taiwanese drama is one of my faves so I really wanted to like the korean remake (and I was so excited with this cast!). However, like almost everyone, I had to stop in order to save my mental health because every minute I spent watching it made me annoyed/angry/exasperated. But I still can't can't fully understand why this one is such a flop. From what I picked up, they kept most of the story line and added some random stuff so why is it such a miss? (They even kept the make up removing scene, but it did not live up to the original one either.)
From what I watched, the main element that turned me off was Oh Hana. CYQ was so cool and even when she made bad choices, I empathized with her. OHN came off... Weak and whiny. HJW is one of my favorite actresses but this did not work. The writers certainly did not give her the best character to work with but she was adding fuel to the fire imo.
I am curious, for those who watched the Taiwanese version, what bothered you the most?
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Sajen
August 18, 2015 at 10:02 PM
I quit this remake after the first week but some things I noticed in the first two weeks that annoyed me were. First definitely Hana, it felt to me like they had gutted the awesomeness that was Chen You Qing and gave us a weak unsuccessful disrespected Hana. There were other little things, like the side characters such as You Qing's parents and also Li Da Ren's mother and uncle Bai or as I call them Mary Tyler Moore and Mr Rodgers, because to me that's who they look like. Also Maggie in In Time With YOu never came off as annoying she was just young, cute, misguided and thinking too much, whereas her replacement annoyed me from the get-go. That's everything I think.
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Dee
August 18, 2015 at 11:39 PM
I agree with you about Maggie! She had a whiny voice in TW In Time with You but she just came across as someone who was childish, not annoying. I wasn't expecting a complete copy and paste character but having an annoying character just gets on people's nerves.
I was hoping this remake would take the essence of the TW version.. it didn't have to use the same scenes.. but somehow the feeling didn't come across to viewers. Ha Ji Won is so elegant and awesome and you can see both she and Lee Jin Wook were really trying their best. Still, a pat on the back to them and the entire cast and crew. It's over, and we'll just move on. If anything, whoever did the costume did a fabulous job because Oh Ha Na has the most gorgeous clothes ever. #corporatefashiongoals
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Dee
August 18, 2015 at 11:40 PM
And thank you Heads for lasting through the recaps for this! Well done!
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zerokitty
August 18, 2015 at 11:59 PM
Now I have to watch the original, I'm so curious about an alternate reality where this story was good after episode 4!
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potterfreak90
August 19, 2015 at 6:41 AM
I saw the original taiwanese version and while it was not my favorite and I found it incredibly frustrating that they did not end up together soon, this version was far worse. In both I felt the guys were more invested than the girls, but at least in the taiwanese version the characters made decisions/mistakakes that you could empathize with or their actions down the line proved that they learned from said mistakes. Such is life. As Heads mentioned, never did it feel as though Hana realized why it was bad to be with Seo-hoo (he did not cheat in this version though); not once did the viewers feel she found herself falling for her best friend such as in the original. They spent more than half of this drama on her relationship with her ex than on the supposed main characters. How does this make sense?!!! If I didn't know better, I'd say it's the Hana-Seo-hoo show. And then she simply hopped from one relationship to the next and suddenly she was in love with Won (with no reason/motivation/source driving said emotion that we could see as viewers). The whole thing was just a mess to put it nicely.
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never2muchcoffee
August 19, 2015 at 8:15 AM
I think one of the things that bothered me the most was the portrayed of of the ex-boyfriend. In ITWY:
1. He's hot.
2. He has chemistry with CYQ.
3. Though we're given hints that he's an ass, it's not obvious until later.
4. CYQ's choice to be with him again is more about figuring out what went wrong the first time and trying again, so that she doesn't have regrets.
5. The breakup scene was well executed and fit the characters (I'd elaborate but don't want to give spoilers).
As for this drama:
1. He's good looking, but definitely lacked chemistry with Hana.
2. We're shown right away that he's a real douche-bag and no amount of so-called justification from Hana will make us sympathize or understand her decision to go back to him. The lame "I can't resist him" excuse is crap.
3. The show tried to redeem the exboyfriend, but it was too little too late. And Hana's breakup with him was portrayed in such a way that it looked like the show was trying to keep either of them from being the bad guy, if that makes any sense. It's like they didn't want any blame on the ex, whereas the TW version continued to show the ex as a douche until the end.
All that said, there's 2 things I liked more about the Korean version than the TW version:
1. L vs Nick. The actors, not the characters. I definitely liked L more than the actor who played Nick, mainly because IMO L did a better job acting than the TW counterpart.
2. Maggie vs. her K version. Maggie got on my nerves, to the point I was tempted to ff through every one she was in. What I like better in the K version is that her character and Won never actually dated, unlike Maggie and LDR. I was glad that Won put his foot down with her and didn't really consider her a potential romantic partner.
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alua
August 20, 2015 at 3:06 AM
<5. The breakup scene was well executed and fit the characters (I’d elaborate but don’t want to give spoilers).
Without giving spoilers either, I wasn't too fond of the breakup scene (or that one reason for the breakup) in the original either. It was too convenient. I always thought it made it too easy for YQ – like it gave her an excuse to break up with the guy when the journey (YQ's maturing) was really about her realising that taking him back and giving him a second chance was a mistake on her part to begin with. I wanted her to break up with him out her own strength and realisation, not because he conveniently gave her an excuse which wasn't even needed.
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alua
August 20, 2015 at 3:12 AM
<What I like better in the K version is that her character and Won never actually dated, unlike Maggie and LDR. I was glad that Won put his foot down with her and didn’t really consider her a potential romantic partner.
I liked that Won put his foot down because she was just an annoying (obnoxious really) person BUT I liked that Li Da Ren dated Maggie because it meant he didn't put his life on hold for 17 years but at least was trying to lead his own life too (since YQ had always been dating left and right, one boyfriend after the other).
A guy never showing any sort of interest (whether purely sexual or romantic) in any other person and just self-sacrificially worshipping one individual.... I find this quite incredible and, most of all, unhealthy. I would have much preferred if, like LDR, he had given relationships a try, if only to find out that that person wasn't right for him in part because of his heart being with someone else.
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namedx
August 22, 2015 at 5:09 PM
Fantastic job with the recaps, Heads! Dunno how you got through it, but you did, and for that, I applaud you! Though I didn't watch this drama in its entirety (would have been far too traumatic, being a fan of the orig an all), I really enjoyed reading your take on it. Many thanks! x
I still don't get how they messed it up this bad. The original carried a natural and realistic tone to it, so that even the most mundane of events came off as moving and rich. This version chose to overcomplicate a story that was intentionally kept bare for its realistic portrayal of friendship and love, and the emotions which come about as a result of missed timing and other factors.
One thing that I felt lacking in the few episodes that I watched, was the emotions. Every character in the Taiwanese version carried the show based on the way they interacted; the set up of family, friends, and the workplace all felt real. And more importantly, it remained consistent in every aspect. Not once did I feel the emotions were out of place, or too dramatic, in fact, it was all kept very grounded.
What I got from the Korean version, is an amped up version of every display of emotion, to the point where it all felt too dramatic, and at times, ludicrous. Hence why I wasn't able to take neither Hana or Won seriously. Ironically, I ended up hating the characters I fell in love with in the original. And that's rare for me.
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leila
September 21, 2015 at 5:16 PM
SO TRUE about the whole 17 years on hold. doesnt make sense at all. taiwanese version makes sense that LDR put himself out there and at least tried.
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7 gugugu
August 18, 2015 at 9:29 PM
Good job Heads, I couldn't bear to watch it but your recaps were probably more worthwhile anyways.
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8 purplesheesh
August 18, 2015 at 9:31 PM
I have been a HUUUUGE HaJiWon fan since Memories of Bali and after watching this drama I also became Lee Jin Wook's fan BUT there's nothing realistic about this one! I mean I have watched the original and I controlled myself not to compre but this version is so crappy that I can't help but be sad.
Sorry to bring this up but one drama who had a VERY REALISTIC friendship premise was EX GIRLFRIENDS CLUB. Come on!
Disappointing. Very disappointing! No one would have endured it if not for Lee Jin Wook and Ha Ji Won!
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nomad
August 20, 2015 at 4:29 PM
I actually have to laugh (out of joy cause it's funny!) on remembering the frenemies of EX girlfriend club drama.
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9 Denile
August 18, 2015 at 9:37 PM
I had been looking forward to this drama when it was first announced but the final product was just....eh!!!
A big round of applause to HeadsNo2 for recapping this till the end. I could read your frustration with the drama several times and wondered how often you pulled out your hair. Time to get some rest and recover from this (but thanks for the recaps)
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10 parny
August 18, 2015 at 9:38 PM
The time I'll never get back. Hur hur....?
Thanks for continuing to recap this drama Heads No2! Much appreciated.
I thought I could still watch this drama even with sucky storyline. But even the gorgeous Ha Jiwon and Lee Jinwook couldn't make me finish this....I guess having beautiful actors doesnt cut it anymore for me. Lucky there's Oh my Ghostess to take my mind away from this drama.
Fighting Ha Jiwon! ?
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11 Mina
August 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM
Heads said everything I wanted to say about this mess of a drama. Thanks for going through all that and recapping for us!
One (of the only) positive thing that I can say about the drama is that I simply loved most of Ha Ji-won's outfits. I wish someone would do one of these for Oh Hana: https://crazy9drama.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/my-love-from-the-stars-chun-song-yis-fashion/
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nevergreen
August 19, 2015 at 4:40 AM
Oh my gosh yess! Hana's outfits were stunning! Thumbs up for the stylists
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12 Sajen
August 18, 2015 at 9:45 PM
I'm glad I couldn't stop comparing this to the original and quit so early. That being said this is further proof that 90% of remakes don't do anything but screw up.
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Cerulea
August 19, 2015 at 5:55 AM
That's what I used to think but then Fated to Love You and Liar Game proved me wrong so I let my hopes up for this one ...
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13 plt
August 18, 2015 at 9:47 PM
Sorry. I have to say that I was not a fan of your recaps. Too much vitriol dispersed in the recap, rather than saving it for your comment section. Editorially? Please strive to do better. Your critique loses something with typos. Was this drama flawed? Was it frustrating? Yes, but your recaps were so one sided. I love recaps that insert a bit of humour, but this was just an exercise in bashing. I get it. You didn't like the drama. My comment is offered as constructive criticism. I hope it is received as such.
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LW
August 18, 2015 at 10:22 PM
I agree with you 100%. There is the soompi forum where everyone see this show with rosy glasses and this review is at the other end of it. I agree with what is being said most of the time, but don't agree with how it is being said....you trashed even the fewest shining moments (agreed there wasn't many) this drama had...This site gave me absolute truth before ..but this review sounded too bitter....Sorry if I hurt your feeling..
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Petmink
August 19, 2015 at 12:23 AM
I understand both of your opinions. You wanted an un-biased recap. A negative recap in the past has reduced my enjoyment of a show.
But I think Heads had to make this fun for herself and others, otherwise she would never get through with writing these. The snark in the recap is the only reason I read them, otherwise I would be bored out of my mind.
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zus
August 19, 2015 at 6:52 AM
So sad cos I really enjoyed this drama but there was just too much negativity in the recaps.
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endz
August 19, 2015 at 11:05 AM
i have the similar dilemna with The Scholar Who Walks the Night recaps.
i noticed that some dramabeans recaps and comments are starting to get negative. they criticize even the smallest details.
constructive criticisms are good but sometimes its too much that if you happen to enjoy the show you can't help but feel stupid because you liked it and everybody don't.
LW
August 20, 2015 at 4:07 PM
@petmink Hyde n Jekyll was worse..even Hyun Bin couldn't make me finish it ..But the recap is much severe here compared to that...there was simple details which made the last 2 episodes enjoyable...but to trash even those little silver lining is too much....
Just wish HB and LJW picked THE other drama they were offered...
Wish HJW tried little more...LJW toned it down little bit..where is the awesome dude from Nine?
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Hyun
August 19, 2015 at 2:00 AM
I get what you're saying but most of us here find the vitriol are humorous actually. I'm sorry you didn't feel the same way..
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laraffinee
August 19, 2015 at 4:13 AM
I agree. Too much snarky overload in these recaps.
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14 chimchim
August 18, 2015 at 10:13 PM
Oh Heads, how I wish you could watch the tw version. (I know it's not right to compare dramas but the kdrama is just universally awful that I'm going to let myself rant) It answers to all of your gripes, and even the end, which is minorly contentious to its fans for the lack of fan service, compared to this two episode epilogue of brain suck, you'll be so thankful for a quick(er) but meaningful wrap up.
After episode 4, nothing was the same or comparable to the original. As someone said before, the heart of the original was not there and as it progressed, whole characters were not there. LDR's entire family who were dysfunctional but relatable and sweet in the original switched out for crappy dying mom and boring cousin? I mean c'mon writers, you have the gift of hindsight here with remaking an already existing and popular work!
And the ex boyfriend! I loved to hate him in the tw drama. He was an a$$ but you totally understood why the female lead fell for him again; he was so smooth and charming. He was like a predator that sent her flowers every day, treated all her co workers, gave her space to get her cool but then kept her hot with just a smile, he pulled her in and brought down her defenses (Not drag her around and force her to work with you while being super cryptic). In other words he was the opposite of LDR (tw male lead) who just played it safe and acted platonic, so you were kind of on the fence if he really was the best for the female lead. But when the ex finally got her, the douchebag came out and it was LDRs time to shine and teach the life lesson that sometimes lust and hormones doesn't always make for a strong relationship. That is real drama people! And ha na is nothing like CYQ. She's obstinate and head strong, but she's fiercely loyal and fair, where she even wins over her cheating co worker and his new wife to think she's an awesome person and they're not worthy. And not to spoil too much, but after her break up with her Seo-hoo version boyfriend, she actually spends time focusing about herself and learning who she is before jumping into her happy ending with the perfect best friend. A huge gripe that you aptly pointed out in this version. And no the male lead never becomes anything like the douche ex, he stays consistent and supportive.
That's the thing about the tw drama, you can simply sum it up as best friends who become lovers but it was actually so much more. the real meat was made up of other issues, like loving your family and growing old and being unmarried and the social prejudices strong single females face in both life and career. There's even a beat on homosexuality which I know Korea wouldn't dare tackle.
Sigh, I just ranted. But I hope anyone who watched the kdrama to not fault the tw one. It has it's faults too but they're easy to overlook in a drama that was sincere and delightful. In fact I'm going to go watch it again. I hope you do too!
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HY
August 19, 2015 at 2:11 AM
Agree with you 100%! The TW version was a little draggy too but the transition from when CYQ realised that LDR was a suitable date candidate for her was present and it prepared the viewers for the romance that came afterwards. The last portion of the TW version was delightful and made me forgive the slow progression in the middle of the series. Only continued the recaps for TTILY just to see if things got better (which didn't)
Good job heads for surviving this! Hope the next one you work on will be much more delightful to recap
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Gidget
August 19, 2015 at 2:13 AM
I agree that The decision to depart from how the characters were portrayed was a major failure of this drama. By changing Hana's personality, they gutted the explanation for why Won was so hesitant to reveal his feelings. So it looked like an inexplicable failure to move forward on Won's part, instead of a function of Hana's prickly manner and behavior towards Won that always kept him at arms length.
Less explicable is why after their not-a-wedding Hana started behaving like the Taiwanese version of her character. Sappy dialogue aside, the character became an ice princess. And there wasn't much of an attempt by the actress to sell the romance. Thank goodness LJW was trying his little heart out, or there would've been absolutely no chemistry left.
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15 chimchim
August 18, 2015 at 10:19 PM
@plt it's her right to write whatever she want including her unedited opinions. She's not here to cater to people's preferences. You have the right to not read them. But the author brings up legitimate points and flaws that even you agree with. With the exception of making criticisms that are personal to the actors or crew or are superficial, like Won's hair and personal styling were ugly, then there's nothing to condemn. If you're disappointed that people don't share your opinion or likes then tough noogies.
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16 tapiocapearl
August 18, 2015 at 10:31 PM
I blame the writers too for the downhill trajectory of this drama. That middle stretch with all the needless story around Seo-hoo's work was killer and took up too much time that could've been devoted to character development and emotional build. I wish this drama had been sexy, not cutesy, more grown-up, not juvenile, introspective, not wtf-ery. I can't believe I was excited about this show before it started. High expectation = high disappointment.
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17 Amilia
August 18, 2015 at 10:32 PM
I cracked up at So-eun's date. First thing that went through my head was, "Oh, my gosh, she really did make him wait at the movie theater for a year."
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18 astromantic
August 18, 2015 at 10:38 PM
And let's hope we'll never have to see Lee Jin-wook with that hairstyle again.
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19 Stardust
August 18, 2015 at 10:54 PM
I fast forwarded so much I wonder why I followed it to the end other than to confirm that it was seriously disappointing
To those disappointed, go watch the original.
It is still one of my faves.
Chen youqing was not likeable but that's the point. She had her flaws but that made her accessible and I could relate.
Li da ren was her BFF and honestly Chen bo Lin beats the korean version hands down. He was a wuss but he had his reasons. Reasons that made sense
Also their transition to a couple was also better. I loved their moments together. The awkwardness of their first kiss ("I've never kissed a BFF") and their first night ("I've never slept with a BFF, I'm nervous) it was gold.
Their relationship status changed but their core personalities didn't. This one was so unnatural it was unbelievable
Youqing was a self centered workaholic b&itch who found herself and was a better person when she had da ren. I don't know about hana
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20 alua
August 18, 2015 at 11:03 PM
So Dae-bok goes from publishing a webtoon (with a stolen story essentially) to a movie deal. How much time are we talking? A few weeks? How unrealistic can you get?
<Were there hints of this needy, whiny version of Won before that I totally missed? As soon as his relationship with Hana became official, he got way too close to becoming another Seo-hoo for my liking.
Well, I think there were some hints there. Him rearranging his life to go live in Paris because Hana was going to live in Paris without asking her what she thought about the whole thing was just as controlling as Seo-hoo.
Speaking of Seo-hoo, why did he have to appear twice (or at all) in this episode? I really didn't need Hana and Seo-hoo to make peace with each other (really only shows that she learnt nothing because she should just keep the guy out of her life and "he's changed"? She's still saying that? Hahahaha....)
As for the rest, there just wasn't anything interesting in this episode. Fabricated conflicts, cringey moments and spelling out the obvious (that's exactly why the smart, open ending of IRY appealed to me a million times more – it asked for some brain. This drama only asked me to suspend my brain).
Congrats to making it to the end HeadsNo2! The recaps were the best thing about this drama – The Time I Won't Miss – , hands down.
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Gidget
August 19, 2015 at 1:55 AM
Yep, I don't think he thought through how much it would suck to have his life always revolve around what Hana wants, while she doesn't do the same for him. If she was bad before they got married, she was horrible after it .
I was cheering that he finally started sticking up for himself and demanded an equal voice in the relationship.
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21 kimlim
August 18, 2015 at 11:03 PM
If nothing else, this show seals LJW as the best kisser in kdramaland! I thought he was only good in Nine but am glad to be proven wrong here! Pity the same can't be said for I-am-bravely-bearing-it-with-my-lips-locked-tight HJW. ?
Looking forward to the So Ji Sub-Shin Mina pairing soon!
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22 gaeinalee
August 18, 2015 at 11:18 PM
Just like @Growingbeautifully said: Thanks a million for your continuous recap to the bitter end, Heads!
This is The Time We Have To Celebrate.. *popupchampagne*
Cheers for surviving this drama~! *gulp*
Cheers for future-better drama~! *gulp*
Cheers for the true model of perseverance~! *gulps*
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growingbeautifully
August 19, 2015 at 12:27 AM
LOL! ? Gaeina Lee ?
Yes, ? here we go guzzling together now!!!! ?
Let's not just go with champagne ... how about sake ? , wine ? , cocktails ? , maekju ? ....*hic!* Cheers everyone Heads for a job well done and Cheers to everyone!
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kanz
August 22, 2015 at 5:12 PM
Cheers!!
This is The Time I Would Forget The Drama
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23 bbstl
August 18, 2015 at 11:33 PM
Thank you, heads! Your recaps and comments were so much more interesting and more entertaining than the drama.
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24 MayaB
August 18, 2015 at 11:35 PM
"9 end 2 outs" was the best imo in the "friends to lovers" genre. I did not find HJW that good in this drama on top of that.
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Gabobobobo
August 19, 2015 at 9:02 AM
ditto!
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25 jam
August 18, 2015 at 11:54 PM
i srsly "watched" this drama through your recaps heads! haha thank you!
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26 fridays
August 19, 2015 at 12:18 AM
Ha Ji Won totally lights up this drama which has such a simple and plain story. Lovethat she injects flavors to her character and make it multidimensional. Also love the wide range of expressions she displayed in her acting. I feel like I am living as Hana throughout this entire drama and I can fully relate to her character. She makes the role alive. If it wasn't for her amazing performance, the drama would be dull. Thank you TTWWNIL for allowing me to see a brand new side of HJW's acting. She varies her acting for each project and this i what I call a true brilliant actress. I will definitely anticipate her upcoming projects.
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Sera The Ms Temper
August 19, 2015 at 1:50 AM
HJW and LJW is the sole reason why i still following with this drama. i dunno if other actors, im not goin to watch it, unless i like the actors.
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isnin
August 19, 2015 at 8:29 AM
wait, were we watching the same drama??
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fanwho
August 19, 2015 at 9:47 AM
I'll say. I've watched many of Ha JiWon dramas (first one being- wait, was it 'Secret' or 'Truth'? with Kim HaNeul) and this is the only drama I didn't like her in it. I read her interview after this show and surprised to hear that she was happy because even though ratings were low, people around her loved it. Well there goes Heads recap- (At least someone does.)
btw I had so much laugh reading recap. Thanks a million Heads for the great recap. It was so fun.
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alua
August 19, 2015 at 10:45 AM
That's a good question.
I think you could just replace the character name and drama title, and that comment could be about any drama Ha Ji Won ever starred in. Or you could even replace Ha Ji Won's name by that of another actor, and it could be about any actor's drama!
Point being, this is one of these generic (as if auto-generated!) comments that sometimes pop up in recaps of certain, especially popular actors. I tend to ignore them, because it's never regular DB commenters and I don't see these comments in trying to engage in an actual discussion.
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Gidget
August 20, 2015 at 12:09 AM
IKR?!!
For the last few episodes what I saw was someone phoning it in.
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WispyCurls
August 20, 2015 at 4:14 PM
Even her kiss was phoned in
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27 pancchi
August 19, 2015 at 12:23 AM
Three Cheers to you HeadsNo 2!!
I couldnt even bare to read the recaps of this show but you had to watch it Carefully to write these recaps! But we have finally come to the end of a terrible show!! Cheers:)
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28 Enmy
August 19, 2015 at 12:26 AM
So boring. The time we will never get back.
I can't believe this drama got HJW and LJW who were hot and sizzling in every single project before this, and turned it into a snoozefest. What a waste of talent and time. The worst part is, this drama could have been so good!!!
Thanks headsno2 for steadfastly recapping. All of us were going this drama would get better, but this definitely turned out to be the worst drama of 2015 for me.:(
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29 cmak
August 19, 2015 at 1:04 AM
Thank you for keeping up with the recaps! I dropped off after the fourth week because I couldn't bring myself to waste any more time on a show that was clearly going nowhere (I learned my lesson after "Warm & Cozy"), but thanks to you I was able to still know how the show ended.
"He smiles despite looking like he’s about to succumb to a wasting disease." <-- had me cracking up for a good minute. Best line of all the recaps.
Hoping your next show will be much better than this one!
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30 zappos
August 19, 2015 at 2:11 AM
It is unfair to jump into conclusions without even watching the whole drama. Only watching a few episodes or skipping certain parts of the drama and just focus on certain scenes will make it difficult for some people to truly appreciate the drama. The story is originally predictable even before the start of it. We all know the story is about two friends who will eventually become lovers and get married. Even though the writers have changed the story, they are still employing the main frame of the original version, which is already known by everyone, so there no surprises at all with the story. SBS should not have bought the copyright of the original version. It could have been better if they could just pen a brand new story about friends becoming lovers so that the audience will not find the story predictable even before the start of the drama. Plus the off screen saga between the writers and PD made things worse. Changing writers over and over again when the drama was already airing made things worse. Everyone working on the drama especially the actors/actresses had to adapt to the constant change of the writing style immediately. Moreover, the 3 writers who ended up writing most of the episodes for the drama are unknown newbies. However, the story isn't as bad as some people have commented. Although it could be better if more spices are added to it, the story is still reasonable and relatable. It is a soulful drama for mature audiences who can appreciate little emotional and heartfelt happenings in normal daily lives. If you like something makjang and cliche, then this drama is not suitable for you. Nevertheless, the acting is really the savior of the plain story and I have to applaud the actors/actresses in this drama, especially the lead Ha Ji Won who has had sleepless nights working on such tight schedule. Production has been on live shooting mode since episode 3/4 when there were only a weeks time for them to film the two episodes that were to be aired for each week. The actors/actresses are really the victims of the off screen saga between the pd, writers and sbs. They have put a lot of effort in adapting to the change of the story tone due to the change of writers in such a short time. I must say Ha Ji Won is a precious gem in the Korean entertainment industry. She is just wonderful in every single moment with her detailed acting and I truly appreciate with it. Knowing what happened behind the scene with the writers and PD made me respect her even more. Well done to the rest of the cast. Everyone has worked hard and I hope people who have doubts with the drama would learn to appreciate the drama and not simply jump into conclusions without even watching the entire drama.
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31 Z
August 19, 2015 at 2:26 AM
1) I wish you WOULD invite me to your wedding, make me dress up and drive all the way to your house only to watch you walk NEXT DOOR! At least at the botched wedding/engaement/whatever with Seo-hoo there was food. The actual idea of a wedding on the street where you grew up is adorable... until it turns in to not a wedding.
2) What is worse the whiny Aegyo Hana? Whiny Aegyo Won! Just want to remind you once again that we 34-year-olds don't act like this! My husband knows better than to be all up in my personal space like that.
3) What exactly were Hana's motivations for going from Corporate mover and shaker to Baby Factory. Not that there is anything wrong with the decision. I was a stay at home mom for a while after having my son and would have stayed out longer if we could afford. So I understand the thought process of saying "I want to put my career on the back burner for family." But we didn't get to see any of that thought process. It goes from "OMG! I'm preggers! And just when work is really coming together!" to "Mi-hyang's baby is super cute... let's make a boatload!!!" in exactly 17 frames. (That baby was super duper cute, though. My ovaries almost exploded at the sight of her).
4) Why do the women in Kdramas always thing their newborn is ugly? (All newborns are pretty ugly but the parents can't see it). I don't know how many shows I've seen that in.
5)That may have been the longest hour of my life, by the way. the only reason I made it through was because I work the night shift and the only thing more boring that this show is my job at 3:00am.
6) I'm so very mad the Murder Eyes was in this episode. We've literally watched him "Move on and let Hana go" three or four times already. Every time I think he's finally gone on his super important World Tour...BAM! He's back.
7) I wish my brother would plagiarize my life/my boyfriend's Life's Work and then offer me 80%. No, fool! Give me 100% and go write your own story!
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Z
August 19, 2015 at 2:29 AM
8) Please explain to me why Hana had to explain to Won to 1+1 pun in the last minute of the last episode. Haven't people been calling you that for half your life? Were you just laughing along all this time even though you don't get it (no shame if you were, we've all done it)?
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growingbeautifully
August 19, 2015 at 5:39 AM
@Z and Jon G.
I thought the 'not-praising' or saying the opposite (as in calling one's own kids ugly) or saying to people who praise one's stuff/family ... "No, no, we're not ...." was an Asian cultural thing of being self-effacing (probably to appear humble) or to put oneself lower than the one who is doing the praising (a form of politeness?). That was the impression I was given, growing up, although it was never explained to me in so many words.
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Jon G.
August 19, 2015 at 6:37 AM
In Japan, that was very common. But usually just when addressing others: "My son is such a useless person" etc. It's a bit different from talking to the baby in that baby-voice and saying: "You are such an ugly baby."
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Z
August 19, 2015 at 2:17 PM
Yeah I get that self-effacing modesty is a part of many cultures. But in KDramas it's always the women who were portrayed as "immature" or "self-centered" or "shallow" who take one look at their baby and say "why is it so ugly?" It's always strikes me as is growing a human being in their body for nine months and preparing for this life changing event of being a parent isn't enough to get these ladies to look past outward appearances. I guess they are just trying to keep the character consistent in a cute way ("Aw, same old Mi-Hyang!") and it never lasts more than a second or two before she's in love with her baby so it's a pretty harmless throw-away line. But, if there was ever an opportunity to show that a character grew up just a little bit as a result of a life changing event, this would be the one.
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Jon G.
August 19, 2015 at 2:38 AM
"ugly newborns"
Saying that your newborn baby is ugly is kind of a custom in some Chinese families I know. It's based on the folk lore belief that, if you praise the beauty of the baby too much, some fairies will take it away.
I just guess that Korea has a similar custom.
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blnmom
August 19, 2015 at 5:37 AM
I will miss your comments, as well as Heads' recaps, every Tuesday/Wednesday morning to start my day off with a laugh. Thanks! :-)
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Z
August 19, 2015 at 9:36 PM
I'll probably be watching 20 Again next if you really start to miss me. I only tend to comment if I really really like a drama or it makes me really really angry (guess which one this was).
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fab
August 20, 2015 at 2:00 PM
I bet you we'll get seriously angry if Twenty Again fails to deliver! See you there.
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32 sona
August 19, 2015 at 2:30 AM
LJW was the best thing about this show. Despite the non-existent plot he seemed to be committed until the last frame. Kudos!!
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tury
August 19, 2015 at 7:57 AM
that's what I feel too, there is some genuine feeling from his acting at least, though his acting isnt that great, but entertaining enough. But I wished during kissing scene, he would've done it less aggressively. I mean, if hjwon didnt react positively with the kiss, he should able to feel it and should've kissed her more casually or coolly in the next kiss, so the kiss wont be too awkward. I dunno if I should pity him or hjw... the last thing to be excited about this drama end up being the least excited. :(
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loveycat
November 6, 2015 at 1:14 AM
I just want to sneak hear to see how this drama is going to end. I stop to read the recap after episode 5. But i surprise it's a failure, consider LJW choose this drama over IRY which many international viewer love so much.
Maybe because the original is a hit, so he have faith this drama will be success, but the writer changing make it fail.
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33 lavander
August 19, 2015 at 2:46 AM
I must be the only person who actually liked this show here?
lovely family, lovely oh hana, and of course lovely won, i love all characters and i like how real they are... I don't think we should define now the characters SHOULD be and just accept how they are, I can totally relate to hana's decision from going all oozy for a young intern and then drowning back into old memories with pianist guy before deciding he's not for her, great ride for me!
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zus
August 19, 2015 at 6:54 AM
same here!
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endz
August 19, 2015 at 11:11 AM
when you said "lovely family, lovely oh hana" i immediately said it's so redundant..haha
"ohana" is hawaiian word for family..*wink*
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34 fab
August 19, 2015 at 2:53 AM
I actually love their wedding idea! It's simple and symbolic. The improvised aisle from her parents' home to her new home; their friends holding pictures of various times of their friendship and relationship- it's all very meaningful.
While everything else in this remake had me raising my eyebrow, and wish it was never made- at least they did something right. xD
Dat kiss though, was nothing but cringe worthy. Some things are not worth a close-up!
Thanks for the recap Heads. Also thanks to the commenters!
(I'm off to watch anything else with HJW(I wonder if her movie with HJW is already subbed) and LJW to forget this ever happened)
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Z
August 19, 2015 at 9:39 PM
I loved the idea of the wedding, too. It was really cute. I just hated the fact that it wasn't a wedding.
The kiss literally looked like he was eating her (tightly clenched) face. It was just gross.
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Gidget
August 20, 2015 at 12:18 AM
I thought the problem was that her face was tightly clenched. Such poor effort...
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fab
August 20, 2015 at 2:01 PM
He was too eager and she didn't even try... Just...ughh...so so painful to watch.
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35 plt
August 19, 2015 at 2:54 AM
Thank you zappos for your insightful & intelligent comment. I found some of the side character portrayals well done. Especially Ha Na's parents. This wasn't the best of dramas, but if you only read the recaps, you would think it was the worst. The snarky comments about product placement got old, repetitive, and boring. I would prefer that a recapper quit, as in 'King's Face', rather than continue with something that they so obviously hate. What does it say when someone isn't watching a drama and forms all opinions based on a biased recap? I prefer to watch, form my own opinions, then check the recap for additional insight.
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Gidget
August 20, 2015 at 12:26 AM
The PPL was outlandishly done. So bad that it broke the suspension of disbelief every time it was inserted. So I think the producers of this drama opened themselves up to a bit of ridicule.
In my mind it would be a worse thing to be blindly accepting of production choices that were (essentially) disrespectful toward the audience.
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36 Emmy
August 19, 2015 at 3:16 AM
Gosh so much to cringe about in the last episode. Choi won's lines were so cheesy and corny, I have to applaud LJW for his perseverance on delivering then nonetheless. It sucks to be an actor on a tanking project!
And can we talk about that kiss. It was hard to watch. How was it that only his mouth was moving and she was completely passive, agh, so so wrong. The kiss in episode 15 was way better, wonder what happened with the shoot/script for the wedding one.
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37 mynameisgoogle
August 19, 2015 at 3:23 AM
anyone have any idea where to find the webtoon?
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Gidget
August 20, 2015 at 12:31 AM
That was just part of the story. It doesn't exist in real life.
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38 Sara
August 19, 2015 at 3:32 AM
Squeeeezzzzy....An end with sweetest an cute voiceover.
2015 romanticomedy drama?
Lets Eat 2?
For a while I cant helped still not move on from the first season. But now? I loved it then love so much how it ended sweet and natural.
like In time I love You, lets eat measured how a couple of friends turns out being lovers. Dae Young and Soo Ji was one of them. If they were comfortable being in bad and happy times it become soulmate couple. Cause we doesnt need a slack of thoughts for wanted our lover become what we wanted. Just be the way you are .... how happy is that...*envy.
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39 TJ
August 19, 2015 at 3:49 AM
Never agreed with this blog and it's assessment that Seo hoo was a "douche bag". Jeez what a stretch compared to the douchey second leads we see in so many dramas. Don't agree that Won did a big about face at the end either by being all whiny and clingy. He was always whiny and clingy. Frankly I didn't care which guy Ha na ended up with, either would have been fine by me. They were both cute.
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40 alienshore
August 19, 2015 at 5:05 AM
So happy Ha Ji Won and Lee Jin Wook are now free of this dog. That they managed to act this one out and give it a pretty good try speaks to their professionalism. What a load of (boring) garbage the writing was! Yuck! I think it's funny how the two worst dramas I've sat through this year included my favorite actress - Ha Ji Won - and one of my favorite actors - Hyun Bin. Although at lease HJW got the benefit of an OTP partner that had chemistry with her (even if it was lacking on her side) and a cute supporting cast (the Oh family who are still adorable). Here's to hoping HJW's next project is something where she gets to be her badass self to wipe the stench of this out of my mind.
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minathens
August 19, 2015 at 5:42 AM
Totally. I'm giving them both a pass for this one and just pretending it didn't happen. Given what a turkey this was I doubt they'll be working together again any time soon, and I kind of think that's a shame, because in a different vehicle I think they could have been great together.
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WispyCurls
August 20, 2015 at 4:18 PM
Goes to show you that Writers>Actors
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41 minathens
August 19, 2015 at 5:41 AM
I feel like as much as the writing sucked on this one, the directing was just as bad. I've seen both of our lead actors do a good job with a range of material-- I can't imagine that all of the awkwardness of the characters was due entirely to their choices. Ha Ji Won kept doing that tedious ingenue routine, and Won, even though he was an apparently competent adult in all other circumstances, lapsed into being a nerdy high school kid any time the romance was at the fore. It seemed like someone was stuck on the idea of a cutesy stuck in time vibe, and I suspect it was not the actors. Or if it was, somebody needed to shut that down. Hana and Won had much better rapport/chemistry at the beginning of the show than the end-- and I don't imagine there was any wildly out-of-sequence shooting going on. How does that even happen?
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isnin
August 19, 2015 at 8:15 AM
It is very fair to point out that while the writers may have changed, the directors and actors stayed the same. It's hard to pin-point exactly what went wrong with this drama. Yes the writing sucked, but the directing was bad too. Honestly, the acting wasn't all that great either. (It was awkward and stiff most of the time.)
This drama just ended up being a big pile of ..... something I was mad I'd invested my time into. It was frustrating because I had high expectations due to the actors and knowing the basic story-line already.
My initial thoughts were that this re-make was a no-brainer for success. (A-list talent and the original was a huge hit.) It's a shame.
Now maybe, finally HJW will take on a more mature and sexy role she is fully capable of. I mean, come ON....nobody really expects her to keep playing the virgin romance roles, right? She needs a NOONA romance role like Dal Ja's Spring or something similar to I Need Romance. I would LOVE to see her play the BAD GIRL role.
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minathens
August 19, 2015 at 12:25 PM
For real. I'd love to see her be a little edgier. Unfortunately, she may not have an awful lot of choice in this, since it seems like those roles are pretty rare.
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Gidget
August 20, 2015 at 12:56 AM
It looked like everyone else was willing to go there with this drama, but she balked. Not only on the kisses, but on a lot of the hugs too. To my eyes the physical performance seemed schizophrenic.
That said, I personally like the fact that dramas keep things clean for the kiddos. I'm happy when they simply make a hug a hug and make kisses seem intimate without being overtly sexual. That sparks the imagination of romance, without letting young eyes see too much.
But sadly in this drama she was having none of it. How frustrating it must have been to act the other 1/2 of the OTP.
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readlead
August 20, 2015 at 2:33 AM
Reading 2nd paragraph totally remind me of hugs and kisses in It's Okay It's Love. ^___^
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42 Ali
August 19, 2015 at 6:19 AM
What an awful show. In Time With You is one of the best dramas ever and this Korean remake had none of the heart and chemistry of the original.
Two best friends - legitimately, not the cliche every newlywed couple claim to be - realize their relationship is the best kind of love. Not lust - which is cheap and empty. This new version failed to capture the strengths of the two leads from the TW version.
The supporting characters were also so great in the TW version. This Korean version is such a waste.
Few people in life are blessed to have that kind of relationship shown on In Time With You - remains one of the best dramas ever to me.
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43 esjpx
August 19, 2015 at 6:51 AM
So did they reveal the 'big secret' that prevented Won from confessing to Ha Na? *didn't watch the show*
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growingbeautifully
August 19, 2015 at 7:22 AM
@xnanax
Yes. He felt guilty that he had lied to his friend and deliberately not passed on friend's love letters to Ha Na, after being entrusted to deliver them. The friend had died not too long after that. There might have been a bit more to it than this, but I believe this was the main reason why he had decided that he could not or would not love Ha Na.
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esjpx
August 19, 2015 at 2:16 PM
I see, thanks!
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Z
August 19, 2015 at 9:45 PM
The kid got hit by a car on the way to see "a friend" who I think we were supposed to assume was Won. And it was like 10 letters that Won lied about delivering so I guess his guilt was 10 times worse (KDrama Math, y'all!).
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44 isnin
August 19, 2015 at 7:20 AM
"The Time when even Ha Ji Won and Lee Jin Wook's Acting Couldn't Save The Drama Plagued With Terrible Writing".
If this was someone's FIRST time watching a K-Drama, they might not know that HJW and LJW are very good actors. This does prove (to me) that even the most talented actors can't save terrible writing.
I truly just stopped caring about their characters. To me, there was no chemistry at all between HJW and LJW.
I am starting to think HJW is wayyyyyy overrated as an actress. To me her "cutesy" act needs to end. (like 10 years ago...isn't she 38 now?) She needs a solid and meaty WOMAN'S role....a bad-ass femme fatale role to break her out of this slump.
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karecity
August 19, 2015 at 9:55 AM
Ehh but she was getting alot of criticisms for constantly playing badass roles lol.
Have you watched Empress Ki or Hwang Jini? Her characters were pretty bitchy in both and I liked them alot haha.
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45 tiadebella
August 19, 2015 at 7:44 AM
How astounding was it (in the worst possible way) when Won went peak possessive asshole while wearing a sweatshirt emblazoned with the words GENDER EQUALITY?!?
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minathens
August 19, 2015 at 12:23 PM
Totally! I was wondering if some costume person was being a smartass?
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Z
August 19, 2015 at 9:46 PM
YESSSSS! I was like "they can't know what that says, right?"
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Gidget
August 20, 2015 at 1:12 AM
I can't stand it when dramas start going all activist and using the platform to serve an agenda. It always shows through and breaks the suspension of disbelief.
The sweatshirt was to hang a lantern on how they turned Won into the cliche newlywed naggy wife and Hana into the cliche emotionally unavailable husband.
The show was saying to the audience: gender equality. *wink* Get it? *wink, wink*. *arent we cool?*
Ugh.
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46 Mikanjjj
August 19, 2015 at 7:51 AM
Thanks heads up for the recap !!! I really enjoyed reading ur recaps !!!
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47 tury
August 19, 2015 at 7:59 AM
Ljw, from 4 dramas of him that I've watched, this remain as the worst in my list. I enjoyed him much better in his last year drama - the three muskeeters. Hope can see him in another good project, he does have potential to be good actor.
Hjw was one of korean actress that I like so much before. After watched her drama hwang jin yi long ago, I was totally impressed by her... also love her in movie "As One" and "Closer to Heaven"... but then since secret garden, I dont see any improvisation in her acting, nothing new, and even worse, in this drama, I can not feel her genuine feeling for her leading male... dunno if her acting style just not fit my taste anymore... she does have one of strongest on-screen charisma among korean female artist and no doubt, her effort as an artist to give the best always is highly appreciated, but somehow I feel she lacks how to act realistically.
I like hjw as a personality, but I wish she can do something with her acting to act more realistic in her next project. I'm sorry for my bad english,
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48 marmari
August 19, 2015 at 8:09 AM
Ohthankgodit'sfinallyover.
PERFECT material for "How not to write a drama 101"
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49 Mich
August 19, 2015 at 8:44 AM
I don't understand how any writer could get literally everything wrong in a drama. Every potential tension point set in the first 4 eps (Won's mom, the bet on who marries first, So Eun who became non-existant after a few eps, Won declaring not to love her) were either resolved in one ep or conveniently ignored. In their place, writers introduced new conflict also resolved in one ep, or new conflict that has 0 impact on the show. Like what's the point of Won being offered training overseas then deciding immediately not to go. Is that a conflict or not, what's its PURPOSE?? And rmbr the cute scene where Won catches So Eun speaking in some slang and she's embarrassed, what's the point of the scene if it's not going to lead to Won feeling some affection or So Eun gaining more hope or smth, ANYTHING. It's not cute cuz it leads to no character or plot development whatsoever besides us finding So Eun actually likeable, and that doesn't matter since she no longer exists in the plot. They didn't even sell anything in that scene.
Instead we're given Ep 5-12ish of Seo Hoo and Hana in an extremely pointless and immature relationship that lends nothing to the plot. It would have worked if writers did smth during that time like Hana missing Won, Hana comparing SH to Won unconsciously, Hana maturing etc. Huge Hana character development potential there that was kicked to the curb. It frustrates me to no end how one-sided the Hana-Won love was and how Hana had no lead up to her magical discovery of her deep non platonic love with Won. Esp when there were 10482882 chances to do so. Would it have killed to insert 10 min of Hana thinking about Won or Hana-Won fluttery-angsty-jealousy interactions during the long Seo Hoo focus? Really writers?
I am also so mad that they didn't take the bet thing all the way cuz that was potential for more interesting camos and a perfect groundwork for tension and jealousy.
And how ironic when we remember Hana saying love is about sacrifice and Won saying love is about loving them for who they are, and the opposite happens when they got together. It's like implicitly saying Won got the shorter end of the stick cuz he became a 'worse' person who sacrifices everything for love, vs the Hana who realized she loves him for who he is. I thought it's common sense we're supposed to see both of them becoming better, cuz like that's the point of the show about best friends turned lovers.
What a terrible terrible waste of potential. Great cast, great premise, great styling, great cinematography, great groundwork in the first 4 eps, immense potential. All wasted.
Writers need to seriously reflect and learn. Please don't ever go down this path again.
I love HJW so much but this is her worst. She seemed to struggle to nail the chemistry with Won at the end, which says a lot given she has a rep of being able to create chemistry with anyone and anything. Gonna cleanse my eyes with some badass HJW elsewhere.
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50 teawater
August 19, 2015 at 9:25 AM
I really wanted to enjoy this drama. I skipped and fast forwarded so many episodes to find some sort of chemistry between the leads but there was nothing. I also didn't like HJW's character. She was a career woman but there was a scene where she was pouting and whining when her boss yelled at her and I just couldn't bear to see it. I watched the original and loved it.
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