Drama viewership ratings for the week of Dec. 19-25, 2016
by HeadsNo2
KBS’s new sageuk Hwarang premiered in the slot left behind by The Man Living in Our House, and is already doing much better than its predecessor at 7.2%. It’s by no means a runaway hit, but being second to juggernaut Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim is no small feat, especially for a show we were all admittedly a little unsure about.
Over in the middle of the week, Legend of the Blue Sea continues to dominate at 17.3%, though it doesn’t seem like it’ll break the 20% mark anytime soon. That just means there’s more love to be shared between underdogs Oh My Geum-bi and Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok-ju, with the former netting an impressive 7.0% this week.
The Lonely Shining Goblin continues to exceed ratings expectations over on tvN, and 12.3% is nothing to scoff at—the show’s performing extremely well. Solomon’s Perjury, which is quickly shaping up to be something special, stayed predictably on course for a JTBC show. And Entourage, poor Entourage, finally shuffled off this mortal coil at a miserable 0.7%. Better luck with the next adaptation.
Oh, and Happy Holidays and Merry Beansmas, everyone! (I know that’s not a thing, but it very well should be.)
Drama viewership ratings for the week of Dec. 19-25, 2016
Ep. # | Station | Rating | |
Monday, Dec. 19 | |||
Hwarang | 1 | KBS | 6.9% |
Night Light | 9 | MBC | 3.8% |
Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim | 13 | SBS | 22.6% |
Rude Miss Young-ae Season 15 | 15 | tvN | 3.3% |
Tuesday, Dec. 20 | |||
Hwarang | 1 | KBS | 7.2% |
Night Light | 10 | MBC | 4.5% |
Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim | 14 | SBS | 22.9% |
Rude Miss Young-ae Season 15 | 16 | tvN | 2.5% |
Wednesday, Dec. 21 | |||
Oh My Geum-bi | 11 | KBS | 6.4% |
Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok-ju | 11 | MBC | 4.4% |
Legend of the Blue Sea | 11 | SBS | 16.7% |
Thursday, Dec. 22 | |||
Oh My Geum-bi | 12 | KBS | 7.0% |
Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok-ju | 12 | MBC | 4.5% |
Legend of the Blue Sea | 12 | SBS | 17.3% |
Friday, Dec. 23 | |||
Solomon’s Perjury | 3 | JTBC | 1.7% |
Entourage | 15 | tvN | 1.0% |
The Lonely Shining Goblin | 7 | tvN | 12.3% |
Saturday, Dec. 24 | |||
Laurel Tree Tailors | 35 | KBS | 22.0% |
Blow Breeze | 35 | MBC | 11.6% |
Father, I’ll Take Care of You | 13 | MBC | 9.2% |
Our Gap-soon | 34 | SBS | 9.7% |
Our Gap-soon | 35 | SBS | 16.1% |
Solomon’s Perjury | 4 | JTBC | 1.0% |
Entourage | 16 | tvN | 0.7% |
The Lonely Shining Goblin | 8 | tvN | 12.3% |
Sunday, Dec. 25 | |||
Laurel Tree Tailors | 36 | KBS | 32.5% |
Blow Breeze | 36 | MBC | 15.1% |
Father, I’ll Take Care of You | 14 | MBC | 14.4% |
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1 Aigoooo
December 25, 2016 at 3:12 AM
Happy Holidays!
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TripleA
December 25, 2016 at 4:17 AM
Good writing vs star power. Good writing wins.
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mel
December 25, 2016 at 3:51 PM
which shows are you referring to? which one has the good writings?
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nahaluk
December 25, 2016 at 9:27 PM
Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok-ju
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2 dramaworldfan
December 25, 2016 at 3:22 AM
I don't really care about ratings as long as the shows hit all the right notes for me. Cheers for Kim Bok-ju squad and Goblin-Grim reaper relationships. Yay! ?
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hades
December 25, 2016 at 9:38 PM
As much as I would like to agree with you, and I mostly do, ratings unfortunately matter when it comes to future content that is produced. Whilst many K-dramas don't have the renewal woes as their Western counterparts do, showrunners and studios may be unwilling to support certain content, actors etc based on previous ratings and trends.
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Kiara
December 26, 2016 at 8:39 AM
Yep, it's business as usual and it cost a lot of money to make a drama.
Bankable stars and writers who can bring in the ratings are the most sought after in dramaland.
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3 neener
December 25, 2016 at 3:26 AM
Sad about the ratings but is there any way we can show our support to Bok-ju and the team?
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jellybine
December 25, 2016 at 5:04 AM
Yeah. I didn't know that the ratings are these low but I hope that the production and the actors know how much we love the show
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neener
December 25, 2016 at 7:33 PM
I just recently found a way! I'm not sure if it helps or not though but maybe, just maybe, watching their youtube videos will somehow convey our love for the Show.
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kanz
December 25, 2016 at 5:23 AM
Maybe int'l fans can pre-order the DVD/Bluray for KBJ? Or probably make some sort of support like Beautiful Mind's fans did..
Well, honestly as long as MBC don't cut the episode like some poorly-rated dramas, all is fine.
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neener
December 25, 2016 at 7:33 PM
That'll be great though. And I hope they won't cut it because that's just terrible.
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paroles
December 29, 2016 at 12:06 AM
I'm pretty sure they won't cut the drama. If you look at both dramas in the same time-slot, i.e. Oh My Geum-bi and Weightlifting Fairy, both have relatively lesser known casts. Clearly, both broadcast stations knew they were up against a strong competitor in Legend of the Blue Sea (which turned out to be not that great story-wise) and were resigned to losing the ratings battle already. What's the point of cutting the episodes? They are probably aiming to win in the next crop of dramas instead. If OMGB/WF does well, great. If not, they won't be too bothered about it.
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Gureum
December 26, 2016 at 2:28 AM
The drama will go on as long as the network knows it will be marketable to other countries after airing. These days networks care a lot about selling their shows to China and Southeast Asian countries, even if they don't perform well domestically.
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Merry Christmas
December 25, 2016 at 9:54 AM
I just hope i-fans watch the drama on legal sites at least.
I feel so frustrated when I see i-fans shamelessly watch it on illegal sites and even share it on the forum without guilt and act as if they own the drama.
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neener
December 25, 2016 at 7:36 PM
Unfortunately some international fans cannot afford to pay or even access the legal sites, including me, that's why we have no choice but to go to those illegal sites. It's sad but I don't have that extra few bills to pay or even donate.
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elric
December 26, 2016 at 8:35 PM
This! Not all countries have access to legal sites so as much as we want to support, we have no means. Thank drama gods though that there are sites like VIU (yeah for free membership!), iFlix, and Netflix who are slowly becoming a source for South East Asian countries for dramas
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hades
December 25, 2016 at 9:21 PM
I try to support the subscription sites as best I can through membership and participation, but it's definitely something that everyone can do. Thankfully, for me, the membership prices aren't too bad on their own at the moment but problems start when you combine them in addition to other subscriptions that I have already or may be interested in getting. It is not too surprising for annual membership/subscription fees alone to go above $100 a year (Netflix, Crunchyroll etc.). It could have been a bit easier if one subscription based drama site had all the shows for the season, but site exclusives, videos on sites you pay for but can't watch due to region coding, shows that aren't picked up by subscription based sites, and poor support for some dramas are but a few of the additional hurdles that Asian Drama Fans face. One of the best examples of the woes subscribers face with streaming platforms is Netflix. I remember when fans went ballistic with the price increase, many citing some of the aforementioned reasons.
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Gidget
December 25, 2016 at 11:12 AM
Petition Subway to name a sandwich the "Bok-Ju"?
Grilled chicken breast...lean and strong.
Sweet Onion Sauce...something sweet and something that makes you cry.
Baby Spinach...lotsa' iron and good for dieters.
Whole grain pita pocket...in honor of love rivals and annoying roommates.
Hmmm...what else?
*Heads to kitchen...*
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GedSkaiKru
December 25, 2016 at 7:40 PM
We can trend it for the last episode...if we could just inform everyone who loves this show to power tweet for January 5(if I'm not mistaken).. We might get the attention of the Korean community..
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HandsUp
December 26, 2016 at 10:11 PM
I agree with the suggestion of someone here. we can tweet more about it.
It seems that tv ratings is not representative of how many people actually like and watch those dramas. Usually there's just one tv at home and the older folks get to decide which drama to watch. Since WFKB is a youth drama, young people either watch it online or in their phones.
I just checked Naver TV Cast and WFKB has nearly as much subscribers as Legend of the Sea, also WFKB is at the top 6 of "searched" drama in Naver.
I think it works the same as kpop groups, if you search WFKB in google/yahoo, tweet about it, tumblr/IG the producers will surely know that a lot of people outside korea like it too :)
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4 Viki
December 25, 2016 at 3:27 AM
Kim Bok-Ju is so underrated...even here among international viewers :( It's honestly my favorite coming-of-age drama of all time now because the story is so well executed and easy to relate to.
YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTA WATCH IF YOU HAVEN'T!
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 25, 2016 at 3:36 AM
Honestly Kim Bok Joo is not underrated in this site. I saw may people praising about this drama in this site.
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DramaNinja
December 25, 2016 at 11:22 AM
Since we are commenting on a ratings-related post, by underrated Viki means that it has got low ratings. And whoever has bothered to watch it has fallen in love with it, atleast as far as I know. Hence the ravings.
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DramaNinja
December 25, 2016 at 11:26 AM
My apologies, i didn't read the 'here' part of Viki's comment.
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Mohammed
December 25, 2016 at 3:45 AM
Kim Bok-Ju is the awesome, endearing, cute college campus drama Cheese in trap should have been so i dont think its underrated at all among international fans like us.
I would guess manybig fans like me we lurk, read every recap, comment. We just dont mention how awesome it is in every post. I lurk around in every KBJ DB thread and read alla about it.
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light
December 25, 2016 at 4:31 AM
Seriously, because of all the hooha here, I have started watching it and dang I can't stop. Very good youth drama. Laugh out loud moments.
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jaderjy
December 25, 2016 at 9:38 AM
Ditto. I'm just about to marathon it because of all the love here at DB :)
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neener
December 25, 2016 at 5:02 AM
I don't think it's underrated in DB. I mean, everyone who loves Bok-ju is spreading it every where. If it's possible to spread it on another drama's recap I would but that's rude and I love the other dramas for what they are too so yea. xD
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heroonthebeach
December 25, 2016 at 9:03 AM
Thanks to everyone's recommendations on the dramabeans site I went to watch Weightlifting Fairy and I'm officially hooked! Watched episodes 1 to 5, then 10 - 12 and it's the sweetest show I've ever watched with one of the most convincing, touching portrayal of a romance ever. Blogged about it too: https://kdramaanalysis.wordpress.com/2016/12/24/weightlifting-fairy-kim-bok-joo-eps-11-12/
Want to say a big thanks to all of you here in dbeans for highlighting this great drama to me. I'm enjoying it so much more than LOBS.
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5 Katherine
December 25, 2016 at 3:31 AM
Happy Holidays to team Dramabeans and to all ! Hope everyone is enjoying this time of year.
I was really rooting for Entourage to be good but sadly it failed miserably. I wonder what will happen to the team behind the show (cause I'm sure the actors can bounce back from it).
I just hope tv stations don't get deterred by the recent responses to pre-produced drama's but instead focus on the story/script + directors more than anything else.
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Sojuboy
December 25, 2016 at 5:35 AM
What was the whole point of remaking Hollywood Garbage?
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sorrynotsorry
December 25, 2016 at 8:31 AM
Sorry it didn't work out. The Good Wife was excellent and one of the best paced k-dramas I've ever seen. Whoever adapted that from the US tv show should be in charge of all adaptations.
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6 Chukahae (축하해)
December 25, 2016 at 3:31 AM
Happy Holidays to HeadsNo2 and fellow beanies. :)
Bdw, will be there any dramas during next friday and saturday that will be preempted to make room for the big three award shows?
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kanz
December 25, 2016 at 5:16 AM
If it's aired during Friday and Saturday I think only weekend shows that get affected since no primetime drama in Big 3 aired on Fridays and Saturdays-Sundays reserved for weekend shows. And usually pre-emption news coming pretty close to the actual airing time, like 1 or 2 days before so for now we won't know for sure.
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mindy
December 25, 2016 at 8:28 AM
According to Viki, Solomon's Perjury episode 5 isn't airing until Jan 6th. I'm not sure about the weekend dramas or Goblin.
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Chukahae (축하해)
December 29, 2016 at 7:40 AM
@ kanz & @ Mindy
It seems that many shows will be pre-empted to make way for the big three drama awards. Good to know that Solomon's Perjury avoid going head on with the big three drama awards and I'm worried for Goblin as it will go against them. Suddenly, I fell like I won't mind if someone decide to pre-empt Goblin for this coming Friday and Saturday.
Thank you for your reply. :)
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Chukahae (축하해)
December 29, 2016 at 7:42 AM
Sorry. * .. someone decides ... .
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Chukahae (축하해)
December 29, 2016 at 5:25 PM
I'm not sure about the informations that I had given due to conflicting informations that I gain from different sources. Sorry if those informations aren't true.
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7 Sera The Ms Temper
December 25, 2016 at 3:34 AM
Night Light shall improve their writing. The casts have potential but the problem is with writing. I only care about Yi Kyung at this moment and not slightly interest with other two main characters. I think even I liked Uee in Marriage Contract which changed my perception about her, but seems like the perception changed again in this drama. I don't like to see any of her parts. Jin Gu honestly I don't know what his purpose in this drama.
Well good luck show. I want to cheer for you. Please be better.
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coby
December 25, 2016 at 4:45 AM
Now that you've mentioned UEE.. I'll stay away for now from this show. I want to preserve my appreciation of her as an actress in Marriage Contract.
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 25, 2016 at 5:13 AM
This show is still has half way to go since there will be 20 episodes altogether. I think it is better to finish at epi 16, if this drama is at KBS probably already has been cut to shorter episode (history proved it).
Uee honestly not entirely bad, she is just a victim of another poor script, same goes to Lee Yo Won and Jin Gu . If you have watched her in High Society, yes the character more or less similar, and her approach is quite similar. Just like I dislike her in HS, I also dislike her in in this drama.
This drama started interesting but somewhere the plot is slow paced and can cause people lost interest. If I can compare Empire of Gold still winning - plot, acting.
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maggie
December 26, 2016 at 3:01 AM
i agree if empire so much better in acting, but the plot.. I really cannot stand with empire bcs, well, it was too heavy for me. night light isn't as giving me such headache as empire did.
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Serendipity
December 26, 2016 at 2:55 PM
Exactly! I second that.
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Sea
December 25, 2016 at 5:48 AM
I really wish Ms Temper had gotten the primetime slot instead of Night Light. That was a well written show that deserved much higher ratings.
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 25, 2016 at 6:10 AM
Agree with you. Ms Temper was a starter for jTBC drama doing well this year and was better in all aspect compared to Night Light. How I wish more people watch this drama, though. I know Lee Yo Won is not a favorite here due to mix reviews about her, nevertheless this drama is good written.
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Sojuboy
December 25, 2016 at 5:52 AM
I was hoping this was going to be better than "Empire of Gold," but the writing just fails... Not even Lee Yo Won can save this. I find myself rewatching "Empire of Gold." It's hard to beat what Lee Yo Won + Go Soo did with that show, not to mention the mesmerizing performance of Park Keun-Hyeong. "Empire of Gold" really stands up as a heir to "Sandglass."
(Side note, Uee's terrible jaw surgery is just too jarring. I just can't deal with her new look. She looks totally ALIEN. I just can't take her seriously anymore. I don't understand these celebrities that do this to themselves.)
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I'm still tempted to put Ms. Temper as my #1 show in 2016, but there have been so many good shows this year.
My Top Five of 2016:
1. UF
2. Ms Temper
3. K2
4. Scarlet Heart (even with all it's problems)
5. W: Two Worlds
P.S.
I'm not too sure if "Goblin" would qualify since it will run into next year.
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 25, 2016 at 7:55 AM
Empire of Gold is really a gold, and I cannot wait the next project from this writer next year. The Chaser and Punch were also my favourite.
I really don't dare to put any drama with Sandglass, this drama really classic and still a legend. But I can say EOG is one of my favourite, at least for these recent five years. A drama that I don't mind rewatching.
Not only Go Soo, Lee Yo Won had a stellar performance, all other characters are great.
Speaking of my top 5 drama of the year, Age of Youth and Ms Temper & Nam Jung Ki are in the top 2. The other three will be Signal, Beautiful Mind and Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim. Sadly none of sageuk drama managed to catch my eyes this year except SFD ( it started 2015, not sure can count it or not) and Jackpot was the last sageuk i've finished this yeaR. Among your list, only Ms Temper & K2 included in my top 10 ?
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Sojuboy
December 26, 2016 at 1:40 AM
That whole Signal drama was based on "Memories of Murder" movie. I still would recommend that movie to anyone who likes Signal.
Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfYeAN25U0k
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Kiara
December 26, 2016 at 8:57 AM
I did not expect Night Light to be better than Empire Gold. Park Kyung-soo ( Chaser, EG, Punch) is one of the best writers in dramaland. I'm looking forward more to Whispers than any show that is debuting in the near future.
Han Ji-Hoon is just ok to me. I enjoyed TBDW and Last. Dr Jin etc was forgettable.
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paroles
December 29, 2016 at 12:08 AM
I was expecting it to be something of the same vein, but I think the disparity in the quality of the script really makes a difference in the end result.
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8 Dakchigo
December 25, 2016 at 3:40 AM
Geum-bi hwaiting!!!!
Also impressed with the unprecedented lows Night Light reached for such a prime timeslot.
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Gidget
December 25, 2016 at 12:38 PM
I know! That show doesn't get much love here on DB. (The tone of the fandom here often follows the mood of what's in the main recaps.)
Anyway, it's one of my weekly faves. They're taking a very sad topic and turning it into a surprisingly hopeful and uplifting drama. It's a drama that doesn't just help you emote; it leaves you with a bigger heart.
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9 celine
December 25, 2016 at 3:44 AM
I plan to marathon Weightlifting Fairy when it finishes its run. It seems to be a fun light drama.
In this age of cable dramas, especially tvn dramas, getting good single digit numbers and even some going beyond 10% (and could rival public stations), below 1% means something went wrong. Entourage had a really sad run. The slow demise has finally come to an end.
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10 gadis
December 25, 2016 at 3:46 AM
Hwarang is doing much better than what I expected. And Solomon's Perjury is also doing quite well. Hwaiting!!!
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11 MissUnicorn
December 25, 2016 at 3:51 AM
Really hope Weightlifting Fairy can fare better in ratings. I enjoy it so much. Really impressed by LSK and NJH's acting also. I'm always either giggling together with the cutes or bawling my eyes out (my heart just couldn't take it when LSK is crying 'abujiii' out loud) with the characters. Everyone NEEDS to watch it really.
But with that being said, I do enjoy Legend as well and understand the high ratings. While WF and Legend are competitors in the same timeslot, I keep feeling like Legend deserves to break 20% and WF deserves to be in the two-digit region. Alas, there's not really enough love to go around i guess.
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12 Aly
December 25, 2016 at 4:02 AM
Those 0,7% ratings for "Entourage" would have been awesome for tvN... 10 years ago. Nowadays it's just pathetic.
They should just focus on making that season 2 of "Signal" *desperately waiting*
I'm feeling pretty underwhelmed by the current drama season as a whole.
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annflln
December 25, 2016 at 5:49 AM
Liar Game anyone?
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Suk
December 25, 2016 at 9:30 AM
Yes Liar Game!
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kikil
December 26, 2016 at 2:10 AM
Omg yes please
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13 PeepsLeAwesomePotato
December 25, 2016 at 4:07 AM
Entourage... the K-drama show that didn't have heart and failed for it.
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14 striving8
December 25, 2016 at 4:08 AM
This is just my opinion.
Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok-ju is so much better that LOTBS. Its so underrated. I feel angry on its behalf. That it doesn't get the appreciation it deserves.
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alphagirl
December 25, 2016 at 4:15 AM
I totally second that! Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Ju is such a good drama and deserves a lot more attention and appreciation. Sadly, the star-power of Min Ho and Ji Hyun overshadow the show. I too feel bad for the show not getting the kind of viewership it should get.
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15 HD
December 25, 2016 at 4:18 AM
I so wish Bokju wasn't in competition with LOTBS. Its such a well made drama that ratings wise I hope it would get its due so that the writers can continue writing such awesome dramas.
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16 Hey
December 25, 2016 at 4:25 AM
I feel like Romantic Doctor is kinda underrated internationally but so well received domestically. The story recently progresses well and I'm looking forward to every episodes excitingly, especially with the progress of the amazingly cute Seojung and Dong Joo couple!
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loveblossom
December 25, 2016 at 8:49 AM
I feel the same! I really like RDTK. I wish it would get more interest here, but I'm glad the ratings for it is high. It is great for the whole cast and production team. ^^
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Kiara
December 26, 2016 at 9:03 AM
It's my current main drama and I'm usually quiet when I really digs a drama. It helps that the cast are pretty much awesome.
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17 doublen
December 25, 2016 at 4:26 AM
Every week hope for better rating for Bok-Ju! There should be a way to show production and actors how great is the show! If it was in another timeslot, or on TvN :(
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18 Nayour
December 25, 2016 at 4:37 AM
I can't help but wonder if WLFKBJ would've been better off being on a cable channel like tvN. The show does give me a very tvn vibe, maybe cause the previous dramas the writer wrote were mostly for tvn, and I usually see most of the actors on tvn dramas too. Anyway, it's a great show. Kim Bok Joo fightingg!
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Kendi
December 25, 2016 at 7:55 AM
Yep, it kinda gives me Reply vibes. I still don't understand why the rating is so low. LOBS doesn't even break 20%, supposedly there should be more pie to share since DOTS was hitting more than 30% on its prime, right?
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Nayour
December 25, 2016 at 10:03 AM
Well, to be fair, when DOTS was hitting more than 30%, all it's competitors were struggling to hit even more than 4%. Considering that Oh My Geum Bi is doing well and averaging about 7%, so it's understandable why WLFKBJ would be lower. Also we must remember the targeted audience, since WLFKBJ is a youth drama, naturally more younger people would prefer to just stream it online in their own time, rather than catch it on live broadcast. At least the comments online have been overwhelmingly positive and I'm sure the cast and crew will know that (:
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Gidget
December 25, 2016 at 12:58 PM
This. Ratings are good for calculating ad dollars owed to a show, but not for assessing a drama's true measure of popularity.
For instance if I were a live viewer: I'd register for watching Geum Bi. But that measurement doesn't capture that I'd also be streaming LOTBS afterward. It also wouldn't capture that I stream Bok-Ju after watching Goblin live. And this speaks about nothing more than a viewing preference: I'll watch something heavier or more thought provoking first and end with something light and fluffy. Because I don't want to go to bed sad or lost in thought about a drama. Each drama is essential and each has their place. And if there isn't a great crop of dramas available like we've had this year, I'll watch something old that I haven't seen because they couldn't fill the right spot when they were airing.
[With the exception of Goblin, I think those shows air opposite of each other. I've looked online but can't find the whole TV lineup. That'd be helpful to know.]
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Nayour
December 25, 2016 at 6:37 PM
Yeap! Ratings aren't exactly everything, nor an accurate reflection of how good a drama is. Take You're Beautiful for example, it averaged like 10% in ratings, which was pretty low back in 2009, but is considered to be one of the most iconic kdramas ever, and shot all three of their leads (Park Shin Hye, Jang Geun Suk and Jung Yong Hwa) to ultimate hallyu stardom. Also it gained a cult following, and the drama was then subsequently remade by the Japanese and the Taiwanese. A popularity that the ratings never reflected.
However, I'm not saying that WLFKBJ might ever achieve this level of popularity, because this was truly a rare instance, and in fact MLSHR's international popularity and cult following mirrors that of YAB more, but at least the drama is well received and will always be a well loved one amongst the kdrama-loving community.
19 Tokishi
December 25, 2016 at 4:57 AM
I really feel w days are gone or some drama that is crack although enjoying bok ju but still the craze that was for w isn't here and really disappointed with lobts because Lee min ho and Jun ji hyun are pretty good in their roles but the writing lacks still getting massive ratings...wish shows like signal and w will hit the screens sooner
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20 YUMICUTE
December 25, 2016 at 5:09 AM
I wish wlfkbj could have reach at least 8% rating.i'm so sad that it's not well receive domestically.as int'l. fan,there's nothing much i can do about it.maybe it's time for me to activate my instagram and praise the actors and crews for their efforts.
I love you so much,show.
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elric
December 25, 2016 at 6:57 AM
I was hoping that it would gain steam just like what happened with Shopping King Louis but we're already 12 episodes in and ratings haven't change.
But I'm glad that despite the ratings, you can still see how well receive it is both domestically and internationally. It doesn't translate to big numbers but seeing many people rave about it is still something.
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GedSkaiKru
December 25, 2016 at 7:50 PM
Twitter too please @justiceforkimbokju let's trend the show for it's final episode..so we can show appreciation for the well thought of drama...please please please..
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21 sear
December 25, 2016 at 6:15 AM
I think bok ju is just okay,
sweet but not that I would watch till the end kind of story,
probably just the 1st and the end,
I don't want to demeaning it but it wasn't as amazing as people like to rave here,
it's an underdog story with a likeable protagonist,
nothing to hate actually but not a great one either,
if you go with the review, just take it as usual story cause I am leaving it,
it's enough, they gonna be fine,
tried so hard but I can't see how it above others,
I think it because the drama watchers here have a high standars but when a drama doesn't have any fault they rave to high heaven like it's the best ever happen or like to hype the underdog cause it's cool,
as I've seen in Moon lovers and how they downplay popular drama,
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Bùi Quốc Khánh
December 25, 2016 at 6:56 AM
Yeah, most of times, when the rating gets too low, viewers will over-rated it.
I can't finish ep 4 for 2 weeks and today I decied drop it, and MBC Night Light too, for UEE's poor acting skill.
I look arround and see "Woa. I even can't watch a MBC dramas now".
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Bùi Quốc Khánh
December 25, 2016 at 6:57 AM
The story is boring, the acting's not good enough, the 'youth' factor not good for me. This drama lacking something, from directing to writing.
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Kendi
December 25, 2016 at 7:57 AM
What drama you're talking about? WF?
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JISG
December 26, 2016 at 7:21 AM
"Yeah, most of times, when the rating gets too low, viewers will over-rated". YES!!!!
I started WF because of all of the praises on here and am going to continue but I am like, what's to obsessed over? Other than the main lead guy who surprises me with his improvement, the main lead girl overacts. A LOT. Maybe because I binged the fist 8 episodes but her pouting, ugly(?) face she tried to make to combat a clearly pretty face got repetitive and got on my nerves. I liked Age of Youth much better for the same feel/genre.
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 25, 2016 at 8:05 AM
I personally don't think Bok Joo is all that great, not that the PD and the team expected that drama to get the high rating, imo. The perfomance of the casts are not something very great too.
What made this drama is a gem because it is youthful drama, cute & sweet romance, no bad characters - a drama that I will call my weekly vitamin. Just like Shopping King. In the middle of tiredness and hectic week, everyone of us need vitamin to energize ourselves. So Bok Joo is good drama to boost our mood, and to see our life from positive side.
Not all drama is up for competition of the best drama , best writing, or best acting. And not everyone of us looking for best drama at all times. Sometimes a simple drama like this is what we need. That's my take on this drama.
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CatoCat
December 25, 2016 at 8:24 AM
I agree with you. I dropped Louis and Bok-Ju by the 2nd episode. Both of the shows re-caps received good no. of comments and even What-You-Watch and in ratings posts most comments are about Bok-Ju.
Fact is Our little, Cute,Young Fair Lady Geum-Bi has beaten Bok-Ju every week and the only show that gave Legends some competition. We hardly see any comments for Geum-Bi. It is not even Recapped.
All the animated happenings and so the characters. Its your average youth drama trying to pander to the needs of the audience at whim.
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kimchikay
December 25, 2016 at 8:41 AM
I'll just say, bok-ju gets better with each episode....I think it was around ep 4-5 that I really was locked in. On the contrary....I did not like Shopping King...thought it was boring ...so not really the same
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Valentina
December 25, 2016 at 8:54 AM
It's difficult to judge a drama off two episodes alone, which is why it is usually better to watch about 4 episode. If you saw with the recaps of WFKBJ, it wasn't until recently more comments started being posted about it. I know because I followed all the recaps. The show is so good to many people because it is relatable, but it wasn't like that when it started. I don't even watch youth dramas like that, but it's better to judge a drama after you've finished it, but that's just me
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sear
December 25, 2016 at 9:42 AM
it's the marathon effect, because you get the answer real fast and the correlation makes like fast since you have other ep on store,
if the drama get big after 10-12 episode it because people are not waiting it on weekly but binge watching until it's good and reach the point in my observation,
but then people also have to remember this effect for the popular drama before making a judgment,
if you marathon any popular drama that get trashed for being boring after 2 episode and immense comment in the earlier episode than the recent episode,
the chances are you gonna find it more likeable because you can easily solve what bother you faster than usual,
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CatoCat
December 25, 2016 at 9:43 AM
I follow the 20-25% view rule But couldn't this time. I have seen weekly youtube short scenes posted by official channel. Every kind of shows have their own set of relatable events/happenings and that doesn't make them good.
In the end it is all about entertainment and the show has succeeded in it. It deserves credit there.
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DramaNinja
December 26, 2016 at 6:47 AM
Watching short scenes would really not do any justice to a slice of life kinda drama, as mostly the fluff aspect is highlighted in that. But I do understand if you feel that the show is not your cup of tea. I love the Show completely and place in one of my all time faves, hence I sing praises of it in the DB thread of the drama. I also ritually follow LOTBS and Goblin and comment on those threads too.
I do agree that the Show has earned enormous love in DB, but i think its purely because the show has crept up and captured our hearts. Personally I feel if anyone gave it a chance they can't help but fall in love with it. But your disillusionment is completely understandable too as i have felt the same for many other dramas eg. MLFAS, BOF, etc. Still can't understand the love showered on them.
Yes it is a run of the mill youth drama, but it is the the best in the genre (personal opinion ofcourse)
ET
December 25, 2016 at 5:37 PM
In a sense, I judge every drama I watch, whether it's one episode or the full run that I have completed. But I try as far as possible not to write my judgement on a drama which I barely watched on Dramabeans. I do however express my opinions which are rants , dissatisfaction and disappointment.
The show which I ranted on the most this year was Moon Lovers. That's because I actually watched it almost all the way to the end.
As someone who love Weightlifting Fairy, I can understand that some people wouldn't like it. How is it possible that everyone likes a show? Neither must everyone love the show.
I guess for those who don't get how wonderful the drama is, it must be puzzling or feel put off by how fans go on and on about the awesomeness.
Actually the people I want to give a shout out to are fans of LOTBS. In their enthusiasm, some fans of WFKBJ have expressed their overwhelming love of the show over LOTBS. I guess being the runaway winner always make you a target for comparison, usually not favorable. However, I don't see or notice fans of LOTBS responding to these comments. You can say that there is no need to being the indisputable winner however the natural response is to defend. So kudos to them :D
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Jennim
December 25, 2016 at 9:45 AM
I don't understand people's need to put down something in order to praise another. Can't you just accept that different people have different preferences. Also if you've only watched 2 episodes, you really have no right to overgeneralise it as "your average youth drama trying to pander to the needs of the audience at a whim". This coming from someone that dropped SKL and never watches "your average youth drama".
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john
December 25, 2016 at 10:09 AM
CatoCat ~
Yay for My Geum-Bi . Heo Jung-Eun is doing a wonderful job as Geum-Bi. Hope she gets some sort of recognition for it. The story is holding up well too. A susrprise hit, for me anyways.
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Kendi
December 25, 2016 at 10:18 AM
I suppose a lot of comments here from WF fans are because of the swoony love story that's why some brushed it off as 'your average youth drama'. Sure, the love story is great, I'm more invested in wf otp romance more than lobs and goblin combined since I wasn't sold on the romance in those two.
But for me the real gems are the little things that are far from grand but tug my heart without being cheap or artificial. I love how amazing the father daughter relationship is, I love seeing the young atheletes struggle since being an athelete is never a stable job (just like in entertainer world) and wonder if the road they took was worth it, I love seeing BH anf JH relationship grew without any over the top scenes but in simple things we tend to miss.
TL:DR WF is an amazing show and deserve every praises spoken. It might not have gratuitous scenes overdosed by a bunch of PPLs but the show does offer a simple story with a big heart. and sometimes that's the emotional payoff I look for from watching dramas.
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paroles
December 25, 2016 at 2:30 PM
I agree. Someone above says it's being underrated but I think it's overrated. I watched the first 6 episodes and I simply do not have the same enthusiasm about the show. It's fine but I don't have the urge to keep up with it.
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kikil
December 26, 2016 at 2:17 AM
+100
i thought im the only one who feel that.
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22 glittergold
December 25, 2016 at 6:30 AM
ay goblin keeps getting higher and higher
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23 sharreb
December 25, 2016 at 6:57 AM
Thought Weightlfting fairy's might improve alittle this week but instead it went down. Not sure why its not resonating with local viewers. I find the otp refreshingly direct and love their open comunication and thusfar it has also sidestep usual cliches.
My focus is so thorough on it. I cant watch other drams. M replaying ep 1 to 12 until wednesday comes again.
Had just made my 3rd fmv https://youtu.be/QLCHcHKLEXU too
Hope the production team and cast knows its a great drama n lots of international fans
Anyway happy and very Merry Christmas to all beanies.
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24 ET
December 25, 2016 at 7:40 AM
What makes a drama a hit in terms of ratings? It's a myriad of factors but I'd like to hear others' ranking in order of importance.
- Star power
- Writer and/or PD's fame/track record/following
- Genre
- Story
- Directing
- Production
- Acting
To me, I would rank it something like this
1) Star power - 50%
2) Genre - 5%
3) Story - 20%
4) Directing & Production- 15%
6) Acting - 10%
I will qualify the above - sometimes, a story is unexpectedly a hit with Korean viewers, is so engaging and good that it keeps attracting viewers after the premiere. In that case, star power is not material or play a less significant role. Examples are Signal, Another Oh Hae Young, Moonlight Drawn By Clouds and current Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim.
To me, Star Power are those actors which can bring in more than 10% in the 1st episode. Usually, it's nearer 15% than 10%. Examples are Dots, Doctors and LOTBS.
Of course, it doesn't make absolute sense to fix percentages to these factors or exclude other factors. I'm just trying to make some sense out of this thing called ratings.
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sorrynotsorry
December 25, 2016 at 8:47 AM
I see what you are saying and generally agree though my understanding Moonlight's lead couple are super popular in Korea even before this drama (though it's at another level now) and had quite a bit to do with it being a hit. The fact that it made the ratings it made going up against the last episodes of Doctors was a sign of what was to come. I would say genre matters a bit more as certain genres tend not to resonate no matter how good the story is. With "star power", I would include the writer in that because some are known hit makers over and over again.
And then something will out of the blue be a dud (even if it is good ) or be hugely successful (and be horrible imo) and I just give up trying to understand it. It's hard to get the mood of another country. But, yes, star power means a lot more in Korea than it does in the US.
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ET
December 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM
Actually I was surprised at MDBC's first week ratings. I figured that Park Bo Gum and Kim Yoo Jung must be more popular than I thought. Of course now they are even more popular. On the other hand, I was taken aback by Moon Lover's premiere. I expected that more viewers would tune in for Lee Jun Ki. Then I checked and it was similar to his previous project SWWTN and Joseon Gunman. I figure that he's more popular overseas than in Korea.
Regarding genres, what do you think are the genres which will not work well? I think youth dramas rank low and Koreans seem to love medical dramas, makjang and romance.
I don't care about Star Power but it does mean a lot in Korea. To me, a drama must be foremost interesting and entertaining. As for actors, I go for acting skills more than looks. So I really don't get all these talk about "visuals" and stuff.
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sancheezy
December 25, 2016 at 9:48 AM
as I remember, MDBC 1st week is like 8+% and Moon Lovers 1st week also around 7-9 %
it means people give both a chance,
the reason why people saw MDBC is because Reply 1988 hits so more people willing to try
and imo the reason why Moon Lovers is not over 10% is because he seems to be always on saeguk and people just want to see the reaction 1st,
Idk if many people do this but sometimes people just don't want to start a new drama and wait for the review from the 1st week or rewatching it on the internet, so they can feel right to switch the drama,
Then 1N2D happen for Park Bo Gum and the word spread,
but for moon lovers, their 1st week is not good because the drama itself that executed badly so it also spread,
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sorrynotsorry
December 25, 2016 at 11:01 AM
I was paying a bit of attention to this situation because I was a fan of Beautiful Mind. It is my thought that BM was cut short so that Moonlight could get out of the gate and get some buzz. There is no other reason why the station would start a drama head to head with the final episodes of a hit drama. Good for them. They trusted their drama and it worked.
ML lost almost half the audience of Doctors to Moonlight meaning that audience never even watched the first episode but went immediately to MDBC (in it's 2nd week) because of the buzz and then they were on their way. ML knew they had a problem, hence announcing the airing of 3 episodes. They did do I guess ok the first week but the piling on began and the rest is history.
In this case, I think the star power and a sweet story overcame the iffy ratings that can come with a youth historicals. So I think you are right, star power trumps almost anything but isn't a sure deal. I also think you are right on genres. The main thing is romance, romance, romance....yet we can get a Signal or a Misaeng here and there and it is so refreshing.
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25 pk
December 25, 2016 at 7:43 AM
kim book joo is similar to i remember you. although 'i remember you' is a little dark but it give goosebumps every second. it was of hollywood level. although there was no schedule conflict but i stilll remember 'i remember you'. so cheer up weightlifting fans. it will get highest ratings and long term effect like 'ywcfs'. fighting!!!!!!!
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CrimeFighter
December 25, 2016 at 8:03 AM
To me, it is more like Shopping King Louie. Fuzzy, cute n funny.
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26 pk
December 25, 2016 at 7:44 AM
also guys u can check out producers. although a bit year old
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27 CrimeFighter
December 25, 2016 at 8:02 AM
Kim Sabu and Kim Bok Joo kwaiting !! I watch the former for the intense hospital politics and humanity and romance, and the latter for warm fuzzy destress feels !! I agree with some of the comments that the latter's plot is just youth n nothing really much but I love the cute heartwarming moments (it is good for our overly stressful lives) !!
As for Goblin, I'm still not so excited over it than the 1st 2 shows I've mentioned, I'm still sitting on the fence waiting patiently to see more mystery being unfold (i.e. the past lives and such)....
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28 alasecond
December 25, 2016 at 8:23 AM
Any ideas on how can I pursue my marriage?
ala Itazura na kiss..
or THE SECRET..
can I or should I just start imagining Gong Yoo as my husband :P .. and will I really get married..
Damn!.. I have been so tempted to test the secret.. for so long.. but just don't know where to test it..
Anyone got any wish fulfilled by it?
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29 CatoCat
December 25, 2016 at 8:34 AM
b>Nigeru wa Haji da ga Yaku ni Tatsu - We Married as a Job Broke all records. Made news ones. Superhit. Best Romantic drama i have seen in a while. Amazing Manga-to-Live Adaptation.
Hapi Marriage - Happy Marriage - Sigh . Sigh . These people need to take few classes from the Author,Director and scriptwriter of NigeHaji.
Our Fair Lady Geum-Bi - Fighting. Better than its own 2 competitors.
Goblin - Wastes too much time. Watching it for Mr. Kim. Sunny needs more screentime.
Night Light - Problem is the story itself. Slow, Nonsensical talk and illogical moves which can be caught by anyone.
Romantic Teacher - More nonsense and drama and illogical dialogues. I just don't understand where this romance comes from.
Legends - Try to be funny and cute but District Official's story is still better than the present story.
Blow Breeze - Who is watching it? I am keeping an eye on it but never got the time to watch it. No one even talks about it.
Father I'll Take Care of You - Weekend shows rating is almost same week after week and i don't think this one can take on Gap-Soon at all.
Still enjoying Father quite much.
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 25, 2016 at 5:08 PM
Based in your comment, I assumed that kdrama no longer attracted you at least at the moment, because you seem not liking any of currently airing drama.
Father is just an OK show for me, only the second couple interest me for now. Ff other scenes. Let's see if the show gets better.
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rd
December 25, 2016 at 6:55 PM
I've partially watched Blow Breeze (also by the name of Windy Mi-Poong), and the OTP fits each other really well. They're super cute together and I wish they'd just leave them be: it's fun enough just watching them.
Sadly, though, it is a makjang in the end, so there's a lot of in-law/relationship secret/unfairness that goes on, and I usually skip to the OTP parts. I'd say give it a go though, because Son Ho joon is SO GOOD IN THIS and Im Jiyeon matches him so well <3
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30 loveblossom
December 25, 2016 at 8:59 AM
I'm content with Hwarang's current ratings. Not that bad at all. I hope the drama reels in more viewers after the second episode because it was better than the first one.
Too bad about Entourage. I'm super behind on it, only because I was short on time and distracted with other dramas. I still wanna finish it to see how it goes.
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31 Sea
December 25, 2016 at 9:50 AM
I'm still enjoying Our Gap Soon. The acting is great, especially from the two family's moms.
The relationship between the "professor" and his son made me tear up.
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 25, 2016 at 5:12 PM
Glad to see someone liking Gap Soon too. I keep complaining here and there, but still going back to see each episode. He he.
But loving this drama. Everyone acts well in their role. Not expected that I'll like the professor and his son, but recently I like them more.
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32 sorrynotsorry
December 25, 2016 at 11:04 AM
I'm curious where Entourage went wrong. I never watched the US version of either The Good Wife or Entourage but found the k-drama adaptation of The Good Wife to be excellent. I am interested if anyone who is a fan of the original Entourage can indicate why it went wrong or if it was true to the source material and that just doesn't adapt well to k-drama?
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bubbles
December 26, 2016 at 12:14 PM
Well, I didn't watch Entourage (US) much but what I saw I liked, it had a laid back atmosphere, it's difficult to describe...like you are eaves dropping on a group of friends that sat at the table next to yours and their gossip intriuges you. Also just the atmosphere of LA is ...different. It just worked imo, Entourage (SK version) didn't for me. In a show like that you have to find the characters interesting, there is no real story to speak of so the whole show is just carried by the characters and for me, I just didn't really find them interesting so it was okay as long as I watched it but I didn't really have any desire to click on the new episode the next week. The Good wife had some more story material and the sympathies of most people for the wife that got cheated on. Procedurals are something that the US are good at as well, so it was an easier thing to adapt than Entourage where they just tried to copy the atmosphere disregarding the actual feel of the south korean movie industry. It felt fake to me, of course Entourage is no reality tv show but it had this certain flair and they just couldn't capture that.
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33 earthna
December 25, 2016 at 5:17 PM
Yay! Go Geum Bi, get that love!
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34 Barbrey
December 25, 2016 at 10:59 PM
I seem to always prefer the less popular shows. I don't know why. I like WF slightly more than LotBS but the difference in their ratings is huge. Hwarang has started off really well for me but its ratings are fairly low. Goblin - I'm still watching but the romance just isn't working for me, and it is kind of choppy, but has great ratings. DotS, Oh My Venus, Doctors, MLFAS, W all pulled in great ratings but I dropped after five or six episodes because they didn't hold my interest. I dunno - am I missing something? My fave of all kdramas, Healer, barely made it past 10% on its best night. So I think I must be an outlier fan of kdramas, not in the normal range.
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sorrynotsorry
December 26, 2016 at 1:55 AM
Oh My Venus actually didn't fare better than Healer I don't think. I remember being a bit surprised because of it having So Ji Sub. I've given up trying to align my tastes with the Korean market. It does seem a lot of hit dramas have big name stars so maybe that is the key though certainly not always a sure thing. When I look back over 2016, I realize how some of my favorite dramas were small ones that didn't make a huge splash.
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rasd
December 26, 2016 at 2:49 AM
sometimes I think it because of subtitle and culture,
not a lot of people who enjoy drama commenting but they do turn up in the rating,
that's how a certain get accepted in the society and as a subtitle watchers,
I think I overlook a lot of things that make other people loose interest,
marathon, which is what the rating people rarely do,
the talks,
here on drama site we talks but then in real life, they also talk, they just don't always leave comment on drama site,
and those silent viewer resonate to the drama a lot too, they just make the rating as their record,
Honestly I am the one that can't understand the hype of healer and I thought it more because the commenter community and not because of the drama itself,
and then if you turn this into a real life conversation, you'll understand how the other drama makes their rating,
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Barbrey
December 28, 2016 at 11:37 PM
I wasn't reading comments when I watched Healer. I had a hard time getting into it, in fact - think I kind of pushed through until the 4th episode and then it started getting good. I didn't start reading comments until Cheese in the Trap and I kind of wish I hadn't read them. Cheese was a breath of fresh air for me in dramaland, and though I was seriously let down by them going off-topic towards the end, it was still one of my faves of 2016. I had to constantly remind myself how good it really was when I read, and wrote, critical comments!
But it's totally cool you didn't like Healer. For me, though, liking it had nothing to do with the commenting community because I wasn't reading any forums then.
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35 Bobbie
December 26, 2016 at 3:18 PM
I'm always confused by the lack of mention about Laurel Tree Tailors on DB, 32.5% rating is crazy high isn't it? Is it worth watching/how come it's not highlighted? Please someone explain to this confused beanie!
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Alessar
December 26, 2016 at 8:01 PM
I think that's a Christmas fluke, it's normally in the mid 20s... I started watching it and it seemed ok but some of the storylines I saw coming ... I just decided to bail because they were cringeworthy.
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 27, 2016 at 12:08 AM
As far as I know, the rating for Laurel is quite normal for KBS weekend drama slot. (Somebody please correct me if i was wrong). It is high, yes as compared to other weekend dramas but not so something surprised for KBS weekend drama. I will be honestly surprised if SBS weekend drama can get that high, since these recent years SBS weekend drama are not doing well in rating (hardly to get even two digits).
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Sera The Ms Temper
December 27, 2016 at 12:09 AM
In case you don't know, 30% ++ will be very high if it is a primetime drama (weekday drama).
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Bobbie
January 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM
Ahhh I see, thanks for the explanation!
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