W–Two Worlds: Episode 11
by girlfriday
The earlier episodes twisted my brain, but this week’s episodes really twist my heart. The romance went from sweet to genuinely moving in the latest story arc, and I’m even starting to think that Fate may not be so cruel after all. Though that’s always what she wants you to think just before pulling the rug out from under you. Our heroine has a rough day ahead of her, because it’s basically up to her to protect the love of her life, save everybody, and keep an entire universe from being swallowed up by a psychopath with a face fetish. Just a light to-do list before lunch hour.
EPISODE 11 RECAP
After returning to her world, Yeon-joo runs to the hospital’s supply room and starts gathering the things she needs to treat Kang Chul’s bullet wound. She races to Dad’s workshop, but the gate is swung open, and no one answers when she calls out for Dad or Su-bong.
She checks Dad’s office, where he’s alone and sitting with his back to her at his desk, appearing to be resting. Yeon-joo breathes a sigh of relief and asks why he changed the happy ending and killed characters and framed Kang Chul for murder, and pleads with him to just let Chul be happy now.
But there’s no response from Dad. Aiee, I already know what he looks like but I’m still scared. She calls out to him over and over and cautiously walks around the desk to approach him. She pauses for a moment at the torn-up copy of Goya’s Saturn Devouring His Son, and then slowly cranes her neck to look at Dad’s face…
But he has no face, and Yeon-joo runs out of the house screaming like she’s seen a monster. Oh no, she dropped her bag of medical supplies in the process!
At the same time, Su-bong blasts into Yeon-joo’s office at the hospital, looking shell-shocked. Yeon-joo calls him and asks what happened to Dad, and Su-bong can only stammer, “You saw…? Teacher’s face is gone! His eyes are gone, and his nose is gone, and his mouth is gone!” Yes, Su-bong, we all saw and now we can’t un-see.
As he tells Yeon-joo what happened earlier that night, we see it in flashback: Su-bong woke up from his fainting spell, to see Dad drawing at his desk. It was almost as if he were possessed, drawing according to commands from New-Face Killer, whose voice was instructing him to draw Ajusshi’s death in the manhwa.
Su-bong screamed all over again and crawled out of there on his hands and knees, but Dad didn’t even seem to notice, and kept drawing like a brain-dead drone. Gack, so New-Face really DOES control Dad? Well what the hell do we do now?
Back in the present, Su-bong stutters as he says that Dad was drawing like mad according to instructions, and Yeon-joo gasps and says, “You mean Dad drew that at the culprit’s command?” Su-bong starts to cry as he shouts, “I… I… I don’t… I was just so scared!” Aw, buddy.
Yeon-joo says she has to get back to the manhwa world to save Kang Chul, but Su-bong argues that she’ll die first, and that Dad isn’t Dad anymore.
He yells at her to run and lock the door behind her, not noticing that Seok-bum and the nurse have overheard his entire crazypants conversation with Yeon-joo. Su-bong yelps when they walk up to him, but then he immediately runs into Seok-bum’s arms and cries, “I’m so scared!” Thank goodness he finally got that hug. He needed it.
Yeon-joo must have balls of steel, because she ignores Su-bong’s warning and goes back inside. She slowly creeps into Dad’s office and tiptoes over to his desk. She’s going for the one thing that can save them all—Dad’s tablet—and starts to carefully reach for it without disturbing him…
But as soon as she puts her hands on it, Dad’s hand clamps down on hers. Ack! And then he turns no-face-forward and lunges at her. Aaaaaaaaaaaack! All we hear are Yeon-joo’s screams from the hallway and the sounds of a horrific struggle inside. This is terrifying.
In the manhwa world, police officers are crawling all over Kang Chul’s penthouse, boxing up anything that can be used as evidence against him. They find a gun under his pillow, of course, and they make So-hee open up the safe and tell Do-yoon that he’ll have to be questioned as an accessory.
Do-yoon is alarmed when he overhears the cops reporting that they’ve found Chul on a traffic camera and are close to finding him. They set up roadblocks near the area, and two officers pull up to the hotel where Yeon-joo left Kang Chul still bleeding on the bed.
They get a list of current occupants and make their way down the hall, checking room by room. And at the very end of the corridor is Chul’s room, with the blood on the floor and the door handle.
Chul can hear the cops in the hallway as they check the other rooms, and he struggles to turn off the lights and reach for his gun in his coat pocket. His room is next in the search, and Chul uses all his strength to point his gun at the door.
But just as the cops are about to walk over, the door gets erased. Yeon-joo to the rescue? It’s just in the nick of time, and the cops don’t notice that the drops of blood on the ground are getting erased at their feet as they walk over. Chul doesn’t understand it, but the cops say that they’re moving on to the next floor. And as the cops get on the elevator, the security camera overhead gets erased too.
Back in Yeon-joo’s world, we see her at Dad’s desk, frantically doing all the erasing. Yay! There’s a disturbing ruckus behind the locked door though, and she keeps glancing over at it worriedly. Did you… lock your father out?! How did you…? Damn, I’m impressed.
Thinking quickly, Yeon-joo changes the color of Chul’s car from black to silver, and rewrites the license plate number just as the cops reach the parking lot in the manhwa. With Chul out of the woods for now, she empties her bag of medical supplies on the desk and begins to draw them, one by one. Smart girl.
Dad just pounds on the door over and over, and Yeon-joo draws as fast as she can, murmuring for Kang Chul to just hang in a little longer.
Chul is looking pretty bad right now, and is plagued with the memory of discovering his family dead and watching Ajusshi die right in front of him. But then on the nightstand, the bloody bandages get erased and replaced with a ringing alarm and new medical supplies.
Chul asks out loud if this is Yeon-joo’s doing, seeming to understand that she’s somehow helping him from afar. She includes a note along with the supplies, urging Chul to get it together and wake up, because she can’t come to him right now and he has to treat himself. Treat himself?! Is he also Jason Bourne?
Yeon-joo continues drawing more supplies, when suddenly the tablet glows and New-Face asks, “Who are you? Are you Oh Yeon-joo? When did you get out?!” He peers up at her with a menacing glare, and then his hands shoot out of the tablet and wrap around her neck.
New-Face chokes her violently, and she struggles to free herself, but can’t pry his hands off. She reaches for anything she can grab as a weapon, but everything is just out of reach. Just then, she spots the power button on the tablet, which is juuuuuuust close enough for her to reach… and with one click the machine shuts down and New-Face’s hands vanish. Whew.
Powering off the tablet seems to sever the connection that New-Face has to the outside world, because he’s shoved back down into the manhwa world, and at the same time, Dad stops pounding on the door and just kind of slumps to the ground like a powered-down robot.
Yeon-joo goes out to check on Dad, who’s unresponsive when she calls out to him. She carefully reaches out and puts a hand on his shoulder, but still there’s nothing. He’s not… dead, is he?
She cries on Dad’s shoulder and then carefully moves him to her bed, tears threatening to overwhelm her again.
Su-bong drags his feet as he returns to Dad’s workshop, and Seok-bum is there with him, encouraging him to go inside. The house is quiet when they enter, and Su-bong is so scared that he grabs Seok-bum’s hand before calling out for Yeon-joo. Seok-bum points out that interlocking fingers seems a bit much since they just met today. LOL.
Su-bong clings to him anyway like a little baby octopus. They eventually split up and Su-bong finds Yeon-joo in Dad’s office, just staring at the tablet numbly. She says that she locked Dad in her room, not knowing what else to do with him.
Seok-bum looks around the workshop and then reaches for Yeon-joo’s door thinking it’s the bathroom. No, don’t open it! Thankfully it’s locked, but it’s making me nervous that he keeps jiggling the knob.
Yeon-joo tells Su-bong that Dad quieted down after she shut off the tablet, and they guess that it must’ve severed the connection between Dad and New-Face. Yeon-joo says that she was thinking of making it all a dream again, and Su-bong suggests going all the way back to before Chul’s family was killed, before the villain ever existed. But… then the love interest becomes a minor!
Seriously though, have some pity for the readers of W. One it-was-all-a-dream might be tolerable, but two? The problem is, Yeon-joo points out, they can’t turn the tablet back on to draw any of that, because that’s exactly what New-Face is waiting for.
Seok-bum interrupts and asks where Yeon-joo is, and Su-bong looks at him like he’s stupid and says, “She’s right here.” But when he turns to look at her, she’s gone. All Su-bong can do is laugh, and Seok-bum laughs with him, but in that way where you pretend because you don’t want to upset the crazy person in front of you.
Of all the places, Yeon-joo appears in the manhwa world inside Assemblyman Han’s office, while he’s holding a traffic cam photo of her and wondering, “Who is Oh Yeon-joo?” to someone on the phone. He plans to start the search for Kang Chul with her, and calls it karmic retribution that things turned out this way for Chul, like it’s proof that justice still rules the world.
While Assemblyman Han lays out his scheme to kill Kang Chul before he can ever make it into police custody, Yeon-joo ducks down and crawls her way towards the door, even though it’s right in his line of sight. He catches her just as she’s about to escape, and all she can do is run for her life.
Thankfully she makes it out to the street before anyone can catch up to her, and she wonders why on earth she arrived in Assemblyman Han’s office. Then it occurs to her that Assemblyman Han was looking for her, and that perhaps the last times she’s been pulled back here, it wasn’t because of Chul, but New-Face, who was also looking for her. She wonders, “The hero’s not the only one who can call me here? Why, all of a sudden?”
Assemblyman Han belatedly realizes that the mystery woman in his office was Kang Chul’s runaway accomplice, and the wheels start turning in his head.
Yeon-joo runs into the nearest convenience store and asks the clerk what day it is and what happened to Kang Chul, explaining that she hasn’t been able to check the news. He tells her it’s the 22nd and Kang Chul is still on the run, and Yeon-joo is relieved that only two hours have passed in this world.
But as she’s hailing a cab in the street, time suddenly fast-forwards, and night turns into day. Crud. Yeon-joo runs right back to the convenience store and asks the clerk the same questions, heh, and she finds out that it’s the 22nd and Kang Chul is still on the run… but he means September 22, and Yeon-joo is shocked to realize that a month has passed.
She goes back to the hotel where she left Chul, but there’s still no door to the room since she erased it, and there’s no answer when she knocks on the wall. She’s terrified that the rumors are true that he died while on the run.
Do-yoon cleans out the last of their belongings from Kang Chul’s penthouse suite, and So-hee tells him to join her for a glass of wine since it’s their last day. She guesses that Chul really did die out there, because she doesn’t know how he’d last this long otherwise. She wonders sadly how he could’ve just died without leaving a single word behind, and Do-yoon remains silent.
Another bodyguard pulls Do-yoon aside and says that someone named Oh Yeon-joo is here to see him, and Do-yoon comes out to the hall to find Yeon-joo crying on the floor. She asks if Kang Chul is still alive, and Do-yoon asks what her relationship is to Chul.
She says they’re not really anything, but she cries so sorrowfully as she says that she just wants to know that he’s alive because he was in bad shape when she left him. Do-yoon takes out a notebook and writes down a location, and tells her to go meet Chul there. He admits that Chul has been looking for her all this time.
She’s just utterly relieved to know that he’s still alive. As she leaves, Do-yoon asks her to convince Chul to turn himself in, because Do-yoon is out of other ways to help him.
Yeon-joo takes the bus to a remote town, and waits at the bus stop that Do-yoon indicated. She waits and waits, and then finally Chul pulls up in the car that she’d camouflaged for him.
He rolls down the window and calls out her name with a little grin. Heh, different car, same smile. She gets in and doesn’t say a word, while Chul is happy to see her, mostly because he’s happy to see a familiar face and to have someone to talk to.
She says she thought he had died, but Chul says he couldn’t possibly, when she’d left such helpful instructions for how to treat himself. He flashes back to waking up in the hotel in the middle of a dream—the one where he’s sinking at the bottom of the Han River (omo, is he remembering parts of his dream-past?).
It was as if she were calling him out of the dream to wake up, and then according to her instructions, he gave himself shots of antibiotics, and then dug the freaking bullet out of his own stomach. Holy crap, did we really have to see that?
It gets worse, because he had to staple the gaping wound shut, and I’m getting queasy just writing that. He spent his remaining recovery time just playing that incriminating phone recording over and over on an endless loop, making himself crazy. He finally threw his phone in anger.
When he was well enough to leave, the door to his room rematerialized so he could walk through it, and then it vanished once he was out. He didn’t see it happen, but he turned back and saw the blank wall where the door was, and then went down to the parking lot to discover that his car had changed colors and license plates.
Chul spent his time hiding out and drinking, and he tortured himself by watching the news. And then at one point, his hand began to flicker in and out and reappear as a manhwa drawing, and at first he convinced himself that he was going crazy.
But back in the present, his hand starts to flicker in and out while he’s driving, and he carefully hides it from Yeon-joo. He asks if she’s found a way to help him, and guesses that she only said she’d find a solution to make him feel better, though he’d hoped she knew something he didn’t.
He admits to wondering if she knows the killer, because she was so sure that Kang Chul was framed. “Perhaps the culprit’s acquaintance? The culprit’s daughter?” he asks. She turns to look at him when he says that, but he just smiles and asks why she came back if she doesn’t have a plan. Yeon-joo just says she was worried about him, and Chul asks if by kissing and dashing, she fulfilled her lusty desires for her husband on him because they look alike. Pfft.
Chul offers to stop for groceries so they can eat, and guesses that Yeon-joo still has no money and nowhere to go. He says he doesn’t have money but will take responsibility for her, since she saved his life. She looks pained at his words, which only bring up memories for her.
They head to the local street market, where Chul insists on buying her some clothes. It’s déjà vu for Yeon-joo, who watches him curiously as he tells her to pick something out from the 5,000-won rack, and just know that in his heart he wishes he could buy her a 3,000,000-won dress. Weeeird, it’s almost like he remembers, except he can’t.
He returns with two ice cream cones and seems perfectly content to just sit and eat ice cream with her, tasting hers and insisting that she try a bite of his. She looks at him like he’s sprouted a second head and asks what’s gotten into him, and why he’s just sitting here eating ice cream instead of trying to clear his name.
Chul says that if too many things happen to a person without context, they go crazy. He tells her to assume he’s gone mad, and says that he’s tried everything he could possibly do to clear his name during the last month, and now the only option is to turn himself in and fight through legal channels, but that’ll mean a lifetime in jail.
He figures that he just has to accept his fate, because no matter how hard he tries, the result ends up the same. He sighs that maybe his life is meant to have a sad ending. No, don’t say that!
He holds up his fingers and says that they’ve now gone shopping and eaten ice cream: “We’ve done two things. Let’s go grocery shopping now.” Er? I know the words “two things” are completely generic, but it’s suspiciously the exact wording they used when talking about their sweet romance homework.
Yeon-joo continues to look at him like an alien while he runs around the grocery store being cute and asking about what to get, and telling her how having someone to eat with has brought his appetite back.
They reach his hideaway and he offers to make her pasta, and she points out that he can’t cook. He wonders how she knew that, but he says that he learned on the internet thinking that he’d like to cook for her when she came back. Aw, he’s fulfilling his promise to cook her a real meal without even realizing it!
She’s completely thrown, but he just smiles pleasantly and tells her to wash up, and points to the bathroom. As she starts walking out of the kitchen, he murmurs aloud, “Have we done four things now? If we do two more, today’s homework will be done.” OMO. OMO. OMONA.
Yeon-joo whirls around, remembering now that she’d marked these exact activities in their sweet romance book. She asks what he meant by “homework,” and he replies casually that he was referring to his homework to do ten sweet romantic things a day.
He brings up her husband, who only did four things and then disappeared, according to her, and says that he was planning to do the homework in her husband’s place to repay her for saving his life. You are SO messing with her right now.
Yeon-joo’s jaw hangs open, and Chul says he thought she was following him around because he looks like her husband. She finally stammers that she never mentioned homework to him before, and asks how he knows about that. Chul smirks and says, “Because I saw it.”
She asks where, so then he walks over to his coffee table and holds up the latest volume of W. AHHH, HE KNOWS. It’s the one that Yeon-joo brought into this world the last time she was here, and he can tell right away from her shocked reaction that she knows the manhwa well.
He says that the husband in this manhwa married a girl and did only four romantic things before disappearing on her, and Chul calls him a cheap bastard. Hee.
In flashback, we see that Yeon-joo brought the manhwa into Kang Chul’s world and tossed it aside on her bunk during the emergency call, not realizing then that she was in his world. Later, a doctor found the manhwa in his bunk and turned it over to Do-yoon, saying that Kang Chul and Yeon-joo were characters in the story.
Do-yoon didn’t read it but brought it out to Chul during one of his visits, and he urged Chul to turn himself in because there was no way to prove that the audio recording was falsified, and they were out of options. The only lead he had on Yeon-joo was the manhwa, which he left with Chul.
Back in the present, Chul says that he had nothing but time so he read the manhwa over and over, and now he’s memorized every line. Keh. They’re your lines!
He says he didn’t have much interest in it at first, but then we see how his eyes widened as he read all the events of the first timeline, from meeting Yeon-joo on the rooftop to all their kisses, to discovering that he was a manhwa character, to shooting Dad and jumping into the river.
He tells Yeon-joo that the story was exciting, and that he felt bad for Kang Chul, who seemed dumb at times… “like me,” he finishes. That’s why he didn’t turn himself in, he explains, because he wanted to see Yeon-joo again and ask her how the rest of the story goes.
He holds up the manhwa and asks, “Have you seen the next volume? After this, what happens to Kang Chul and Oh Yeon-joo? Because things ended up this way, does Kang Chul forget Oh Yeon-joo forever? Answer me. Your husband who suddenly disappeared… Is it me?”
COMMENTS
Damn, he really pulled one over on me. I thought the dress-buying was eerily similar but not suspicious, in that it’s just in Kang Chul’s character to do that, and he really is a gazillionaire who currently can’t access his money. It was his word choice about the “things” that made me suspicious, though I guess we should’ve known something was up when he teased her about lusty thoughts. But I love that he took his sweet time to tell her the truth, and that he actually started the homework in the first timeline to repay her for saving him, and then restarted it in the second timeline for saving him again. It’s just so perfectly cyclical how they’ll always end up with him discovering that he’s a manhwa character because of his curiosity about her, which is unavoidable because Yeon-joo will never sit back and just let him die. It’s what started the cycle in the first place—her sincere desire to save his life—and now it seems inevitable that her intervention will always lead to his self-awareness.
I find it so fascinating that in the first timeline, Kang Chul discovering that he was a manhwa character threw him into a deep pit of despair, so dark that he shot his creator to prove his free will and then killed himself on a bridge; but in the second timeline, the despair came from circumstances in the manhwa world. And reading W—in particular, his storyline with Yeon-joo, which was not part of the manhwa series when he read it the first time—brought him out of depression and gave him a reason not to give up on his life. I just really loved it when he asked her what happens in the next volume for Kang Chul AND Yeon-joo, not just Kang Chul. Because beginning with that volume, it really became their story, not his.
And I enjoyed that he didn’t magically “remember” her, because there’s something more bittersweet and heartfelt about him seeing their relationship from the outside, and recognizing Yeon-joo’s pain and feeling frustrated that he might be the source of it without knowing. It’s a way to use the meta-upon-meta framework of the narrative in a romantically angsty, but satisfying way, and it worked so well for me emotionally over the last two episodes.
I don’t really know how Yeon-joo was technically able to bring that manhwa into his world, but I suppose in the past she’s always brought whatever was on her person, like ID tags and lab coats. I think it’s more likely that the manhwa defied the normal rules of universe-hopping, not that this drama has ever stayed consistent from episode to episode on what the rules are. I feel like the only rule here is: There are no rules. It’s maddening at times, since that means that the relationship between the manhwa world and Yeon-joo’s world is always on shifting sand, but that’s also the point of Yeon-joo and Kang Chul changing each other’s universes as they become inextricably linked—nothing stays the same after that.
What I don’t know is how they’re going to save Dad, because now he really does seem lost as an empty vessel under the killer’s control, and it’s not like Yeon-joo’s world can reset like Kang Chul’s (…that we know of). How will they get his soul back? That’s not even the worst of it, because Kang Chul seems to be dematerializing in his own world, the one where he’s supposed to be the main character. If he loses purpose in the story, it seems like he’s not immune from disappearing just like So-hee nearly did last time. What happens then? Does he just disappear forever? And does that mean that New-Face has overtaken him as the main character? Because that cannot be happening. Hopefully Kang Chul regaining his self-awareness will put him on the same footing as New-Face, as long as we keep Dad locked up and away from his tablet. And maybe New-Face being corporeal now means that he has an ass you can kick, which is a very small silver lining, but not an insignificant one. You could also, yunno, SHOOT HIM IN THE FACE.
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Tags: Episode 11, featured, Han Hyo-joo, Kim Eui-sung, Lee Jong-seok, Lee Shi-un, W–Two Worlds
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1 Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 8:46 PM
uaaaaaa
1. The story changed, the protagonist changed, now it's a story about a prosecutor
that finally able to find the evidence to solve the murder by a teen psychopath,
the story revolves around the protagonist, but for the antagonist, it only relevant as long as he did something
2. OYJ get summoned because the story needs her, the protagonist mention her name
3. OYJ lips get healed in the 1-month webtoon and Kang Chul surprisingly didn't scream much, maybe he's drawn out of energy,
but the expression is really terrified me, it seems hurt
4. so the only villain can create the magic door? because we don't need them to appear all the time or that actually a special ability
5. KC became irrelevant if when he no longer needed, he is going to disappear because his story can be wrap up that way
and the protagonist already in the peak of his story with or without Kang Chul, they don't really need him
6.They did it, the shopping, the ice cream, the grocery!!! complete with 1 cereal PPL and variety of colour, seriously I dig the colour since many grocery shopping in many dramas have tonnes of the same product line up like in IKEA
7. Kang Chul is indeed a smart man, he finds his way and he waits for her to get the answer
8. Soo Bong is going to the hospital for the entire ep 10, poor guy, but love the laugh sequence with Seo Boom, I laugh myself for no reason good comedic relieve
9. The flashback is cut down, only 1 minute and the playback from the last ep is 2.25 minutes long, they really seem to prolong ep 9
10. Fugitive Kang Chul wears less make and make the hotness level increases , really dig the black shirt, hat and the ripped jeans,
and don't you just loved it when the character solves their own problem by connecting the dot and didn't drag the amnesia just for the sake of feeling,
our feeling already tugs yesterday and today then they stop doing it by making the smart boy realised,
thank you, although I am okay with the journey to remember you thing, but I appreciate this fast response more than the dragging part,
don't you think they gonna break the 4th wall at the end of the drama?
like saying to the camera "it's entertaining, isn't it"
and OYJ said "yes jong suk shi...oops", then Kang Chul's eyebrow get triggered!!
so the interworld game is change to the traditional hero vs bad guy which is a very good idea,
we've travel endless time back and forth and now let's do all the kicking
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 8:51 PM
10. Fugitive Kang Chul wears less makeup and make the hotness level increases
too many typo, can't believe I can catch up the time with the recap release,
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nchoe
August 25, 2016 at 9:13 PM
Hemmm... but if KC disappear, wouldn't the New-Face killer lose his purpose and disapear too?
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM
he still gets the president, he is the sole reason the president is winning this time so he is relevant to the truth of president morality?
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lunaticandra
August 25, 2016 at 9:29 PM
or the webtoon end just like that...
isn't the killer sole final purpose is to have a showdown with kangchul?
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM
He's showing those symptoms because the story is drifting away from him.
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divyrus
August 25, 2016 at 11:16 PM
But, KC's purpose was always to find the killer of his family and even when did the first time - that there is no killer, he took his own life. He was still suspended in bottom of Han river. Story should really have ended then.
Let's say No Face restarted the story, and he made all of it according to him. So his purpose to take KC down is a success and KC is no longer needed ?
Then why didn't no face disappear when KC killed himself ?
Yoyo
August 26, 2016 at 2:10 AM
@divyrus
No-face technically messed with the entire storyline. With those changes, he made Kang Chul the villain. Episode 11 showcased that in a month's time, Kang Chul was hunted down, publicly scrutinized and blamed for the killings of his family and his dads friend. That timeframe alone shifted not only the course of the story's plot, but the shift in its characters as well. Since Kang Chul remains hidden, the story is drifting farther away from him, his purpose and his need to be the central focus of the story has been reduced. Because of these changes, I believe that No-Face has now made Han Cheol the hero of the manwha. Until Kang Chul faces those charges and turns himself over to the authorities, his "story" will be forgotten, serving him no purpose to be part of the manwha. That's why he's slowly fading away. (Insert gallon of tears)
Yoyoz
August 26, 2016 at 2:18 AM
Remember that Kang Chul never died so there wasn't any need for the manwha to rid itself of no-face..
mary
August 26, 2016 at 6:44 AM
New-face is stupid. No one wants to read Han Cheol-ho's story.
If Chul vanishes from the story, no one will buy the toon. Distribution will stop. Fans will go away. Crazy Dog will quit being a surgeon and camp out like a spurned sasaeng outside W publishing house.
Going back to the Schrodinger thing, if no one reads/observes the toon, their whole world will be split and fractured in a quantum soup where everything and nothing is happening at the same time. Which isn't much of an existence either.
Yoyo
August 26, 2016 at 7:52 AM
@mary
Han Cheol-Ho is an old fogey. And yes, crazy dog will go berserk if the old man becomes the hero.
Re: shrodinger's cat, yes, that is entirely possible. The manwha will cease to exist if the story won't continue. They can either vanish into oblivion or time would simply stop.
Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:21 PM
Crazy dog is gonna like I would rather read the cheesy romance than this!
Procheneza
August 27, 2016 at 11:03 PM
in the latest episodes, but I'm finally seeing what others have been commenting about. the directing, in especially the editing, doesn't do justice to the script. fortunately the strength of the script can make up for most of those mistakes, but not all. if it were the same team as the one at TVN who did QIMH and Nine, the drama would have been better I think. however, we wouldn't have HHJ as the heroine cos I heard she's kinda an MBC groomed actress which may be one of the reasons they managed to get her to accept the role and drama.
2) I wish they really would make more use of the excellent OST tracks released so far, instead of the couple of songs.
3) the Chinese translation for the preview also uses the word "summon". me thinks KC is referring to the teleporting power the killer uses within the W universe but he's going to use it cross-worlds as well.
4) KC's life will always be in danger, one way or another, either getting killed, being hunted or disappearing from existence until the finale.
5) I stated before, the romance factor in QIHM was much higher because that was when writer-nim first started to explore the time-traveling theme in her scripts and they wanted to reach out to a larger audience so she added more romance to the script. Second time round, romance was sidelined in Nine, due to success of QIMH, she was given more leeway to focus on the time traveling concept. W is a marriage of QIMH and Nine, and writer-nim upped it by making the female lead more than the just romance factor, but with more active role in the main plot. just praying writer-nim doesn't do the open ending for W.
that's it. folks.
Tianzi
August 28, 2016 at 12:17 AM
This show is messing with my brain... I am starting to see hope even in what -on paper- sounds like the most depressing things. Somehow, KCs "I gave up trying to fight it, maybe I am meant to have a sad ending" no longer sounds like giving up, but rather like "This quest for a happy ending only brought us pain and suffering. I'd rather simply enjoy the fact that we are together".
Also, if i liked that during the 'amnesia' episode they kept repeating things they did before, I absolutely love that now they both continue to do it but intentionally... It's like a conscious affirmation of their commitment to the relationship.
KCs teasing is not just that, but it seems to me like an attempt to get her to acknowledge their true relationship. It reminds me a bit of the prison scene where at some level he also was proving her her to admit her feelings. KC: "So you kissed me because missed having a man around..." imaginary YJ: "No, you idiot. I did it because I love you!" :P
All-in-all I am happiest when they are together. So let's see what you throw at us next, Show. I'm all up for it.
Firo
August 28, 2016 at 12:19 AM
Can we talk about how Chul is totally trying to measure up to his past self? How he's like "So I can't buy you a $3,000 dress like the other guy, but just know I really want to." "Maybe the other guy couldn't cook but I looked richard simmons up on youtube, girl, let me make you something Italian." He read that book so much he memorized it. I just can't with him. He spent a month preparing for the day he'd see her again, to give her the romance he thinks she deserves. Boy breaks my heart.
Fire
August 28, 2016 at 12:23 AM
He can’t be the same Chul as before. He can’t be the man he was before. So he desperately wants to do better. To BE better. If he can’t be the Chul she knew and fell for, then damn it he’s going to fight to be better. To chase her, love her, fight for her, more than that idiot Chul ever did. Because that Chul? The one he can’t remember? Didn’t fight for her. He sacrificed himself and gave up instead of fighting and staying by her side to protect her.
So he studied. He practiced. He reread his comic. Because it’s all he can do until she’s by his side again. Ready to fight to rebuild their love, and fight to protect her.
Beanie
August 28, 2016 at 2:06 AM
Do you guys ever notice Kang Chul has a way of scolding Yeon Joo about something and then giving her exactly what she wants like 5 seconds later?
Ep 7- Angry at her for keeping him alive and playing romance with him. Then 5 seconds later kissing her.
Ep 10- Scolds her on the rooftop for drinking alcohol while on doctor duty. Then 5 seconds later drinking it with her.
Ep 10- Scolds her for breaking and entering So-Hee's apartment and calls the police. Then 5 seconds later she's in his car.
Shuerei
August 30, 2016 at 1:04 AM
@ Firo ++ 1,000,000...very well said
@ Beanie - he is always gonna tease her and she would be perpetually perplexed by his actions.
Now we know the reason to the "one month" time jump. Her "disappearance" for that period was to enable KY's search for her leading to his self discovery.... and perhaps new goals in life...
I thought any drama would be hard to rival The Healer, so I am glad W proved me wrong. I really dig the dialogues, the cast, the production but most of all, I like the fact that YJ inevitably became a heroine despite being a fugitive - penniless, homeless...and heartbroken ..
And how not to love a love story that spans two universes? And who could resist someone who saved KY again and again so that he could have a happy ending?
It is bittersweet to watch KY drawn to her both times. In the earlier episodes, her kookiness probably piqued his interests. But this time, it's her quiet grief that made him notice her.
The saddest thing about YJ was that she grew up well in a troubled family. And while her love for her alcoholic dad was unquestionable, she crafted a heroic figure out of a longing and yearning for something more. And when the only love she ever hope to get was a fairy tale romance, she had to give it up. And now she is doing it again, saving two worlds for the two men in her life.
ButThen
August 25, 2016 at 10:27 PM
I'm thinking newface is trying to BECOME the main character himself, it's not necessary that the main character has to be a hero. He could just as well be a villain, if the story revolves around him enough. And he's made sure that Kang Chul has all but dropped off the radar, and he's the one calling the shots. I wonder who's perspective the manhwa is narrating from right now..
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Rya
August 26, 2016 at 4:30 AM
I think he still the main character for right now, because of the time thing a month past...it was still centered on him and how long he had been in hiding, but i think it might be shifting to Assembleyman han or possibly oh yeon joo ( because what brought her back was assembleyman han thinking about her which could have just brought her back into the manhwa world...or may be KC was the one to bring her back and it was just set up to look like Assemblyman Han did.
Omgyes!!!
August 26, 2016 at 9:29 PM
Yeah I'm beginning to think too that the story is being given a different narrative!! Firstly because Kang Chul is disappearing, that means he's not the main focus anymore because he's lost his purpose in the story. And secondly that time skip doesn't necessarily meat that it was there to make Kang Chul heal and the time pass quicker. Firstly it could just as well have been because the killer and assemblymen need Kang Chul to come out of hiding, that's why the time sped up so the story could get to that point. Or it could be that it was because Assemblyman Han needed to find Yeon Joo, because if happened right after she ran into him. And she ran off without getting caught, we might have just been pushed a month into the future because that's when she'll next run into him, only after she's made sure that Kang Chul is alive and alright.
Mari
August 27, 2016 at 3:41 PM
Reposting cause I replied to the wrong person:
Do you think Kang Chul kept in mind Yeon Joo's rant, particularly "he never even told me he loved me, it was always me doing all the confessing" like does he feel bad ?
KKJ
August 27, 2016 at 4:55 PM
I definitely think he did. He's had a month to process everything, and this is Kang Chul. He strategises, analysis and thinks things through. He's not someone who always misses the details because he's very meticulous when he thinks things through. He's the type to try to put together information really fast, which is why he was able to figure out that he must be that husband Yeon Joo mentioned.
As for feeling bad, yes. I mean he basically called his past self an idiot, because I think the Kang Chul we see now is able to look at the past decisions he made in a more objective manner. Which is why I'm not hating the amnesia plot this time around, because it's actually good development wise. Kang Chul getting to see his actions and his story with Yeon Joo objectively from a comic was a wonderful way for him to see his past mistakes and come out of it knowing better. He knows what his decision has done to Yeon Joo now, he saw her break down. And he saw what she did for him. He's falling for her all over again and I think that's beautiful.
He's getting to know her through the pages of a comic, just like she got to know Kang Chul by reading her father's comic. And now it's his turn to fight like hell to keep her. To confess and fall in love with her. So I think he's not going down without a fight. I hope to god there's no sacrificing this time around, but a true fight till the finish line, where a happy ending awaits them.
Piper
August 28, 2016 at 1:17 AM
I've noticed that people seem to have problems with:
1. The romance--apparently, it's too "fast" and "inorganic" so they can't get invested, whatever that means. Mind you, these are the same people who would complain about the pace if it let up a bit to focus on the relationship. Case in point, episode 7. No matter what intentions KC had in his actions towards YJ, it's true that they were working on their relationship in some way. Plot demanded that they halt but it didn't invalidate the real feelings that went on.
2. YJ's character--she's too obsessed with KC, she's not acting like they want her to act, how they'd act if they were in her shoes. My God, can people just get over the shooting? Yeah, he did it. If they don't understand why he did it and can't get over it, it's no wonder they can't get "invested." They're taking her actions towards him even after the shooting extremely personally. Lends a new meaning to self-insertion, in my opinion.
3. KC's lack of "genuine" feelings toward YJ--apparently, because he's a manhwa character, his feelings for YJ are fake, leading to point #1
In my humble opinion, it's better to leave people with such opinions alone. You can't convince people to see what you see and interpret something the way you see it.
Coco
August 28, 2016 at 1:21 AM
Everything you wrote, everything! I don't know how anyone can confuse it as a lack of genuine feeling. Kang Chul admits to not knowing how to do real romance and so approaches it in the way he knows has produced the best results for him (study! "homework"! bullet points!) because he wants to succeed at it! He wants to please her, a trait we've been given hints he has never done with other girls he has had flirtations with. The show has hinted that his relationships, as they were, were shallow and completely on his terms - when Do Yoon asks if Yeon Joo is another one of those girls he's hurt and dumped, I was like "Wow, dude's got an m.o.!" - but here he is putting himself outside his comfort zone and worrying constantly about getting the details right because it *matters* what YJ feels. He wants her to be happy because her happiness delights him and he wants her to want to stay with him (at a certain point, he's even afraid she won't want to).
YJ's character, ignoring the wonderful nuances, is nothing new - not for a heroine or a hero for that matter. There are tropes and one of them is the hero/heroine who falls in love hard and is willing to move heaven and earth for their love. I never quite understand those who act like this basic trope is a new thing to a drama??? Honestly, she's no more "obsessed" than most (I'll see your YJ and raise you the heroine from It Started with a Kiss, now that's obsession) - in fact, when she's asked to back off she does, to her detriment, I might add. Most of her interactions with KC have been to *physically save his life,* not to insert herself into his sphere for romantic hanky-panky or to put "He's My Man!" stamps all over his body. She likes him and she's a pretty bad liar, so she doesn't bother to hide it much - although she is embarrassed by how swoony he makes her feel - but it's never with the intention or insinuation of "So, I like you; do you like me...? Can we make this happen?" There is never an air of expectation or even of begging him to reciprocate. Most of the time she's trying to get home. It's only when she sees hints he might like her back that she puts out an invitation to explore a romance hence the "sweet romance" gig.
When KC asks for the reset she respects his decision and I don't quite understand finding fault with her struggling in the aftermath of that either. It hurt. A lot. She's allowed to feel that and even express it when it gets to be too much, especially when she gets sneak attacked like with the rolling ring situation. One of the nuances I love about YJ as a character is how her emotional nature is portrayed.
Like chemistry, buying into the romance is so a subjective process. My personal philosophy is if I don't buy it by ep 5, then I will never buy it. After that, it's all about if there is enough in the show as a whole to keep me watching. I prefer romance driven kdramas so if the romance loses me I'm usually out of the show, lol...
nchoe
August 25, 2016 at 9:41 PM
I wonder whether KC is being framed to the point even the Manhwa readers are also thinking that KC is guilty? That's why he's no longer the main character?
I thought the readers would know that KC is being framed since they see the whole process when KC's uncle was shot. I'm curious what the readers read in Manhwa in real world.
I feel bad for this Manhwa fans. They must be so confused right now. LOL.
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Kestrel
August 25, 2016 at 9:43 PM
I feel bad for the readers too!
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:53 PM
Manhwa Comment
"so we've been root for the wrong person %$$^$!"
"no , there must be a twist, how the recording appear?"
"but . . . but . . the assemblyman is bad!!"
"the dad T.T, why chul-ah"
"I want So Hee's happy scene!!"
"what is kang chul's supporter doing? they need to helps him!"
"the daughter must write this, that's why her name appears again"
"Oh so man needs another vacation , kekekeke"
"I wished I can enter the webtoon"
"at least it wasn't a pure romantic comedy"
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mary
August 26, 2016 at 6:46 AM
And the comment wars!
"Chul oppa is innocent. The jealous Killer is just framing him for money."
"Your stupid oppa is caught with gun and blood in his hands and still you call him innocent. How stupid can you get?"
"Guys, let's not judge until we get all evidence."
Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 10:31 PM
The comic readers, I believe, have seen the gun show up in KC's hand from nowhere. So they may still trust KC now.
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HopingForAGratuitiiusShirtlessSceneOfLJG's??
August 26, 2016 at 6:09 AM
I thought we were going to have a bed scene when KC and YJ went to that house.. (KC's childhood home) I'm sorry I just can't help but think of *that* when I watch this scene LOL. I mean he even bought her another dress!!
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Yoyo
August 26, 2016 at 7:54 AM
You are in the running for the longest username in beanieland.
DoesThisMean#4IsBackOnTheMenu?
August 25, 2016 at 10:25 PM
I love that our OTP is just so clever and hard to back into a corner! YJ is no daft damsel, the way she rescued Kang Chul at the hotel, and even had the forsight to renovate his getaway car! And Kang Chul, even with the loss of his memories is still sharp as ever, the way he caught onto what his pre-reset memories must have been. I'm happy the writer didn't magically give him back his memories - but he, Kang Chul, put the pieces together after readind the Manga.
Now I know why it was important to use so many Flaschbacks in the previous Episodes - so that their story would fit it all in one Volume/Book!!!!!
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didi
August 25, 2016 at 11:00 PM
I super love your id DoesThisMean#4IsBackOnTheMenu....
I was thinking the same too...LOL
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SJH
August 25, 2016 at 11:31 PM
Yes, i love your name too. And i love everything in this episode after yesterday episode. Finally kc and yj can join hands together to fight the villain. Although i'm confused how dad can go to normal if killer control him like that T^T
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TM
August 26, 2016 at 4:06 AM
I really enjoyed Yeon Joo's scenes in those 2 episodes, I found her smart which I really appreciated
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Star
August 26, 2016 at 5:25 AM
That is why Kang Chul is described as a young geeeeeeenius man!
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thursdaynexxt
August 26, 2016 at 7:56 AM
@DoesThisMean#4IsBackOnTheMenu?: love your ID as well!
Yes, I hope Kang Chul remembers #4 is just as important as his homework!
It was definitely considerate (and ingenious) of the writer to make sure Yeon Joo brought Vol 34 of the manwha with her into the W world, but I'm just boggling at how quickly they produced the printed version! It was bang up to date, including the first and last day that Kang Chul and Yeon Joo spent together as husband and wife pre-reset.
I'm glad that they will now get the chance to write their Sequel together.
I'm glad that Do-yoon was looking out for his buddy all this time!! I was wondering why DY and SH weren't fading out, if the story's focus has shifted away from Kang Chul. But I hope this means that KC and YJ won't be alone, and that Team Kang Chul will find a way to flip the tables and survive against all the odds (even if they learn they're manwha characters in the process)!
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Question
August 27, 2016 at 11:46 PM
They forgot that KC was created based on YJ's ideal man. After reading KC's whole story and became sympathize for his tragic lost of his family somehow made a deep mark in YJ's heart. Remember when YJ said she was crying with KC when she read about KC's first trial to kill himself because he was desparate to live? It just needed a trigger to make that feeling grows into love. So for YJ, KC's existence has been already in her heart for long time. So when YJ saved him and saw him in real person. in blood and flesh, how could she ignored him and just let her father went to kill him?
That subtle feeling for Chul grows bigger when she kissed him for the first time, she touched her lips right? Same thing happened in ep 11. It sent another tremble to her heart that lead her to fall for KC. People said that YJ shoudn't be that heartbroken must forgot about this.
Their other acquaintances only made both side aware their feeling for each other.
As for KC who has never been in love before, falling in love is new for him. But it didn't lessen his feeling for YJ coz he is willing give up his life in order to protect her is already a big point how important YJ for KC. After finding out the ugly truth about his life, meeting YJ is still the best part of it.
For YJ it just made her fell in love with KC more til the point of no return. How could they expect YJ won't suffered after losing KC who jumped off himself from the rooftop in order to protect her? That is insane if really happen to a person. Watching love one killing himself before your eyes is cruel and beyond words to say. And to add more YJ had to erase herself from KC's memories in order to keep everything back together. It's painful things to do. So when YJ felt so heartbroken is should be easy to understand and relate. Losing someone she loves dearly before her eyes and made him totally forgot about herself is really painful. It's not about how long they both invested their time together but it's more about how much you gave and invested your feeling and yourself in the relationship.
Both KC and YJ are willingly to give up them self in order to save one another.
About the marriage it is legal tho. Although it happened in W world. They are husband and wife legally in paper. That's why Mr. Song was worried about the finance things. If it's not real, SH won't be disappear. Their rings indicates their bonding as a couple. YJ's ring is still exist meaning their marriage is real. Although I'm not sure what happened to Chul's ring. I hope it will appear again as he finally remember what happened before.
The rings also becomes the reason why the culprit's after YJ as his next target. She became part of KC and also could be hurt.
DontForgetYourHomework
August 26, 2016 at 11:55 AM
Kang Chul X Yeon Joo 's baaack!!!
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Yerim
August 28, 2016 at 1:26 AM
it slipped my mind that YJ was terrified when the killer tried to choke her ... perhaps she should keep a mallet handy while working on the comic illustration so that the next time the killer grabs her, she can whack him like a mole ... keke ... or have a taser by her side or she can poke his eyes ... being creative here but i'll leave it up to writer-nim ... as we all know in kdrama world, it will not be easy for the lead characters ... i am just curious how the writer will spin this without reusing old tricks ... i like YJ's strong character though ... definitely not your damsel in distress ... i love kdramas that portray strong women ... i am not a big fan of women characters who are 'feisty' with their male leads but are really weak and allow to be 'beaten-up' by their step mother, step sister or future mother-in-law ... haist ...
on another note (and perhaps off topic, mianhe), i would like to say, bless your heart LJS for promoting your advocacy against child abuse ... i wish there were more people like him who uses his influence to increase awareness on social issues that beset our world ...
Lily left the valley
August 26, 2016 at 8:04 PM
Yeah, I think YJ would be much more open #4 if she knew the focus was off of them, and thus the readers won't get to see the panels depicting such. ;)
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KTo288
August 27, 2016 at 7:41 AM
Or perhaps if KC begins to fade in front of her, to deliberately pursue option 4, in order to create a new storyline and give KC's character a reason to be in the webtoon.
Kimmy
August 27, 2016 at 9:43 AM
Omg yes, please!!! Like that is oh SO convenient, the sexy times is just to save your life so you don't cease existence not because I find it ridiculously hard to resist jumping your bones.. The sacrifices Yeon Joo has to make to keep Kang Chul safe.. *sigh*
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LoveourOTP
August 27, 2016 at 11:06 PM
I just have so much regrets for what could have been shown in ep 8. Like the whole emotional process that KC went through from when YJ accidentally cut her hand and was brought out of the webtoon world to when they met again. We know that since the threat of the Killer, he was hoping for her to return to her world which he assumed to be a safer place. After her disappearance, he was left alone in the kitchen and sat there till the morning. What could he be thinking and feeling then and there? It must have been feelings of loss, of pain, of mourning for their short happiness, ... but at that moment, I don't think that he wished for YJ to be back by his side, as he was still under the belief that the Killer was nearby, inside the webtoon-world.
But it is different later when he's in his car driving to Sohee's place after receiving her call. In the car, KC deduced and concluded that the Killer had indeed escaped the webtoon and came to the real world. The thought that the Killer could find and harm YJ there led him to frantically search for her (he called and asked the security man to look for YJ around the house). How strong his concern for her safety that it immediately summoned her right back to his side, in the car! He wasn't even aware of that right away as he was too consumed by his fear/yearning for her.
If only all of this were shown more clearly through the direction... Casual viewers would not be able to catch all of these on their own in a single viewing when all his emotions and thoughts are glossed over and treated lightly. I don't really expect a lot from the writer in future episodes, as it's episode 11 already and KC has been shown to be consistently more cool and calm than impulsive and easily overwhelmed by emotions. I just wish the director could develop some sense and fill in the blank for us in those melo scenes. Come on, blow our minds away with their earth-shattering, dimension-breaking love!! hahaha.
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Hul
August 28, 2016 at 1:30 AM
BTW I love YJ/HHJ small gesture in ep 10 when she asked KC to exchange his seat from driver seat to back seat. She protected his head so he wouldn't bump to the car's door frame. It is written in the script or just HHJ herself did it. It would be very sweet of her if she was doing it not based on the script, you know meaning she is very caring to LJS
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Ren
August 26, 2016 at 12:50 AM
I was actually really worried when he was out in broad daylight with just a cap to hide his face. At least grow out some stubble or something to disguise yourself.
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Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:25 PM
Yeah, me too.
It seems they are hiding in some remote town though.
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Rain
August 28, 2016 at 1:42 AM
I want Kang Chul to meet Soo Bong in the real world, he will definitely freak out! I'm laughing at the thought as I'm writing right now! :D That poor thing will have another shock but [SPOILERS FROM PREVIEW] Maybe he knows more about that scarry small picture that MS teared.
Goddamn
August 26, 2016 at 2:37 AM
I can't believe we're still being left stumped and dumbfounded, THIS late in the game this is usually around the time in any normal kdrama when all the cliches would be rolled out and the story would take a slower pace, but W still leaves us thoroughly speechless! I SO did not see that coming, and I can't say enough how much I love how accepting Kang Chul is of his past and Yeon Joo. This could be the romance we asked for!!!!
Now all of us wish we can just fast forward time to next Wednesday, just like every other Thursdays since W aired.
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Mari
August 27, 2016 at 3:40 PM
Do you think Kang Chul kept in mind Yeon Joo's rant, particularly "he never even told me he loved me, it was always me doing all the confessing" like does he feel bad ?
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Dreaming
August 28, 2016 at 1:54 AM
I like that the writer hasn't made Kang Chul said the three words yet. Seems like she's saving this important event for later episode. Many people have already discussed about KC feelings, even Yeon-joo said it in the ramyeon scene, it was always her who did the confession.
...which convinced me some more he will say it one day, a confession complete with a kiss heee. I have no problem with this at all, I like the build-up.
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Hallet
August 28, 2016 at 1:57 AM
because YJ chose option 3 officially, only that option gets fulfilled real and directly, the rest of the options will be fulfilled indirectly, e.g option 1 was in a dream. hopefully since option 4 is KC's choice, we can get that too.
reason why I kept repeating my expectations for EP 15 and EP 16, is hopefully we can prepare ourselves mentally for the finale stretch and the angst. the drama proposal already promised the viewers a lot of angst and tears.
for both QIMH and Nine, the male lead always saves his "I love you" confession to declare at the most crucial timing. KC will be the same, I think. right now, he feels he does not have the right to declare his feelings and love for YJ and that their relationship has no future, due to him being a manhwa character, so he is keeping his distance from YJ.
DramaQueen
August 25, 2016 at 10:17 PM
I just want to know how dad will survive without an ability to feed - assuming he doesn't need oxygen at the moment (although it seems like he still has some form of a nose)....
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The Emperor's New-Face
August 25, 2016 at 10:39 PM
T H I S!! I want to know!
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Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 10:54 PM
He is just also a manhwa character now. So everything that applied to NO FACE applies to him as well.
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Tenzi
August 26, 2016 at 3:36 AM
I can't think of a single logical, or even coherent way in which the writer might think to have the killer killed, but still return Appa his face. Like I just can't fathom how they would do that..
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Indigo
August 26, 2016 at 3:54 AM
I know. I keep thinking Appa will go down with the killer...they seem inextricably linked at this point. But that would be too sad. Hope the writers have a rabbit to pull out of the hat on this one.
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rowanharper
August 26, 2016 at 5:54 AM
Maybe if Dad and New Face were both in the comic world and Yeon Joo used the tablet to draw dad's face back on and kill/destroy New Face.
IDK, I feel like that's too simple.
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TM
August 26, 2016 at 4:08 AM
I think that's maybe the only thing I was curious about. How does he live without a mouth and a nose? It's so strange
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kbaswithneko
August 26, 2016 at 5:04 AM
Maybe he now has gills behind his ears like Aquaman.
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Wendy
August 31, 2016 at 1:35 AM
OMG! This comment is life! I laughed out loud, which is not safe, since it's almost 2 am here and I should be sleeping.
Wendy
August 31, 2016 at 1:36 AM
I also love the fact that the you wrote this at 5 am
cjc
August 25, 2016 at 10:23 PM
So the puppet-master is now a puppet, and his puppet became his puppet-master.
Moral of the story: Be careful of how you create and mold your creations. You might lose control of them someday and they will get back to you in the most horrible way.
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Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 10:26 PM
"don’t you think they gonna break the 4th wall at the end of the drama?
like saying to the camera “it’s entertaining, isn’t it”"
And KC said to the camera: I suffered so much for you guys cheap entertainment. However, I will forgive the writer, because she gave me a happy ending.
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maryofbethany
August 25, 2016 at 11:33 PM
the 4th wall, may be:
even YJ's world when she's a surgeon is a Webtoon.
in the Real Third World, she is a Webtoon artist, secretly in love with her Olympics-Gold metal Childhood friend, Kang Chul who happened to be staying next door.
yes, all i want from this drama now, that i may be willing to trade in my demand for Option4, is a reasonable Happy ending with YJ and Chul be a real married couple happily forever.
nothing less than that should pacify me, and my 'hoodie wrath' to burn MBC down if that fail to come to pass.
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Appelsin
August 26, 2016 at 11:28 AM
Count me in for the "hoodie wrath" in case they dare to finish this in a way that does not imply Yeon Yoo and Chul having a happy ending together. I am SO invested in this couple happiness. :D
Kudos to the writer by the way, not only for the mind-blowing plot, but also for making the romance so touching...suddenly you find yourself rooting for the couple and suffering for their separations. My heart was aching every time Yeon Yoo was looking at Chul in this episode. They are so perfect together...god, I feel the need to go and scratch a heart with their names in a tree trunk ?
Also, the detail of Chul learning everything from the manhwa was clever and I enjoyed this twist so much. If the writer has planned the whole story this carefully, I am anticipating a lot of excitement for what is to come yet. Cannot wait till next week episode!!
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Lacey
August 27, 2016 at 11:23 PM
KC is just too damn rational for his own romance. I realized that a part of why it's not working well for me is that I've almost never seen KC vulnerable in the context of the romance. He's always so in control of his actions and his words, even to Yeon Joo. I think the only time would be when he hallucinated YJ being shot in the head and he couldn't help but hug her. I think being emotionally vulnerable is a big part of falling and being in love, especially in front of the one you love. So I hope to see that in KC someday. Come on, Kang Chul. I WANT TO BELIEVE. Hehehe. :D
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maryofbethany
August 29, 2016 at 8:26 PM
he did let go of himself, while always pose and calm mostly. because he has to control his feels, not to hav sudden changes to stir another disappearing of YJ. like what you say, nothing beats a man in his vulnerability and shows his hurts and LJS is damned good in weeping scenes in past, not the kinds that moan and groan, but the silent tears, and tight closed eyes.... trembling lips, bowed head, crouching shoulders. tears slided down the cheeks. ... he perfected that kind of weeping scenes. i want to see him break down for her too... the best portrayed of his breaking down, and gone out of his safe bountary, was at the hospital rooftop, confession his feel after reading all the comics. asking YJ, dont she dare to be coy, and say of all the 99 times of sadness filled, him, he has One single happiness in knowing how YJ feel about him.
me too, i also want to see him showing his weakness, and missing her, and breaking down before her, act like her man.
siesta
August 25, 2016 at 10:43 PM
i was surprised at the end because the manwhorld didn't stop functioning as soon as KC became self-aware like the first time, but then his flickering hands makes sense. he's no longer the main character and the manwhorld no longer revolves around him
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divyrus
August 25, 2016 at 11:12 PM
But I am confused.
If the LEAD PROTAGONIST can disappear, does a word called REAL even exist around here ?
Now who would the manhwa revolve against ? The world was frozen in time when KC jumped of the bridge.
The entire time he was underwater, nothing happened in manhwa world. Only when KC came back did the world start again.
Now the story says, even KC can disappear? How ? When KC died in Han river, his world didnt exist on its own but now KC himself is gonna disappear while the entire world goes on it's own pace independently ?
Even the one month was speeding up because the hero was doing nothing, time was revolving around him. So how can he disappear?
On top of it, now we have so many main characters Who are self aware. KC, YJ and new face! Around who will the time revolve now ?
I get it lead characters can change in course of a story, but I don't find a reason why it has to change. KC is framed again - it feels more like final act of the story rather than KC losing purpose. Even if the story believed KC is the killer, then it shouldn't end until he is killed or captured !
I am just very confused !!!
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siesta
August 25, 2016 at 11:50 PM
new-face's plotting changes the very basic premise of the story- that KC was innocent. the voice recording made him the killer instead, so the story changes drastically from KC trying to find the truth to a justice-seeking prosecutor chasing after a cold-blooded killer on the loose. thus assemblyman Han became the main protagonist and lead and the world should revolve around him. but thankfully Han is not self-aware.. yet, so there's no danger of the manhwa stopping...yet.
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Liza
August 26, 2016 at 12:40 AM
thanks for clarifying :-) I've been wondering about that bit too.
So that also explains why YJ appeared inside his office..but judging from how she wonders why other people aside from the hero can summon her there, she doesn't yet realize that Han is the new hero of W.
Anyway if Han is self aware and the manhwa stops again, these 3 person will not be affected because all of them are self aware.
MissUnicorn
August 26, 2016 at 4:19 AM
I think it is because when KC drowned himself in the river, he was still the main lead. Hence the story couldn't continue without him. However now, the story is slowly shifting the focus away and it seemed as though NO FACE and the evil prosecutor is now the main character. The world is no longer revolving around KC. Hence, now his new self awareness and death etc may not create the same kind of effects.
Wow i love how much thought goes into the writing. Too mind blowing, i can't even.
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numberfour
August 26, 2016 at 3:22 PM
i misread
"The entire time he was underwater,"
as
"The entire time he was in underwear,"
and i was like, WHERE DID THAT HAPPEN
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mary
August 26, 2016 at 5:24 PM
In our dreams. huehuehue
폰니
August 25, 2016 at 11:55 PM
Yup I was wandering why the manhworld didn't stop as soon as Chul realized he's probably YeonJoo's missing husband.
I have question. So if the main character was no longer Chul, why the story was still skipped faster by a month? The writer probably has a reason for this.
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deathbychocolate
August 26, 2016 at 2:33 AM
Because nothing significant has happened to the protagonist who is assembly Han after seeing YJ.
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Sukie
August 28, 2016 at 12:42 AM
I just realized the last scene of W vol 34 is likely the reset scene where Kang Chul wakes up in the hospital bed, crying. Remember, vol 34 includes all of the marriage/sweet romance homework because that's how the KC of the reset timeline learns about the number of tasks promised as well as how he forgot his wife.
If anything the prop manhwa is a little too thin but printing a book with that many color pages costs money that's needed for the actual drama, so I'm forgiving of that detail. It makes sense for vol 34 to be about Yeon Joo's arc in W from a publisher's standpoint - one overarching storyline is contained in a single volume.
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DisPickle
August 26, 2016 at 1:56 AM
Whammy. We were all thking Kang Chul might be trapped in his world and Yeon Joo in hers, hadn't even considered that Kang Chul would disappear altogether. He's displaying the same symptoms we saw on SH. I hope now that he knows he's the main character, and he's getting in touch with Yeon Joo that the flickering thing has been dealt with for good. But this writer always manages too catch us completely off guard so I wouldn't dare to hazard a guess..
P.s am I the ONLY one still worried about the dead body wife the ring ar the morgue that was totally not suppose to be our Kang Chul.. ?!
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TM
August 26, 2016 at 4:12 AM
I forgot about the dead guy found. Now I'm worried
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Alessar
August 26, 2016 at 6:35 AM
I never thought that was significant. That was just the main characters thoroughly investigating KC's disappearance.
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rentenmann
August 26, 2016 at 9:23 AM
Nope, I've been worried about that this whole time. I guess for me, the ADHD helps when there's information overload, huh. ;-)
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Staitnam
August 27, 2016 at 9:39 PM
I think the first time around when KC met YJ, he was intrigued by her. She was different from him, though he had no idea how different. I think his intrigue was becoming affection at her artless ways and could have naturally become more, but then he got the shocking news about his reality which interrupted that progression.
Then when he went to her world, I think he was overwhelmed processing his new reality, but he still thought of her. His goodbye kiss spoke of admiration and regret, though probably not love as yet. He also knew that he had committed an unpardonable sin in shooting her father and unable to deal with his new understanding of his reality, he tried to kill himself off. Later on, however, he admits to YJ that he was afraid that he would never see her again, even in his moment of death. I think it's telling that at this moment, his thought was not of his world or his friends, but of YJ.
Returning to his world with his new reality in mind and faced with a determined YJ, he goes along with her schemes. I don't think he was reluctant to do so, but I do think that he was still coping with his understanding of his reality. That other people had the power of creation and destruction over not only him but his entire world. As Yeon Joo continues to profess her love for him and they spend time together, I think KC comes to love YJ. She becomes important to him, not just as a creator, but in her own right. He wants her to be safe as well. Still, thinking through their differences and that they can't be together always like a normal couple affected how he viewed their relationship. At one point during his outburst at her in the police station, he had asked whether she was just having fun until she had to go back to her world. While her confession of love for him ameliorated his aggravation, it didn't change the fact that YJ had another world to go back to. It was the differences in their reality and the safety of YJ and his world that caused him to propose making everything into a "dream," but some part of him still knew her and longed for her.
Like the free will that he gained despite his creators, his love for YJ took a life of its own respective of the intentions of the story or even his and YJ's intentions. While he constantly speaks about repaying YJ for saving his life, that seems just like a rational explanation rather than the inexplicability of falling in love across the lines of reality as well as a certain abeyance of the problems that would entail. Also, he doesn't treat YJ with just gratitude. The gratitude is an excuse for being with her and being close to her. Every time he kisses her, it's because he wants to, not because he's grateful. Even with his memories erased, when he meets her, he notices her. It was not a bolt of lightening, but I think it was noticeable that he does notice her and notices her noticing him. I definitely think KC loves YJ now, and not just because he read their story in the manhwa...
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Samara
August 27, 2016 at 10:58 PM
i do understand reason why Chul need to keep calm and reserved during that "One Day of Romantic Things".. i don't think its just his "repaying back as a husband's duty" to what YJ asked at the prison-bus(asked him to repay her back now since she is the New Author of this comic and she saved his life). i guess, his fear that any sudden raised of strong feels in him, (be excitement of arousal of sensual interest) may immediately send her back to her world. that One Only Marriage Day was sweet but not sensually Passionate, should be due to that self-control, remember he told her not to confess or do anything impulsive to stir him, if she wants to stay beside him for a long time... (remembered also he told Manager Son he worried she may not stay with him longer.).
while at the rooftop prior to the jump to oblivion, is another issue of chasing Time, and the urgency of sending YJ back to write off the Faceless Hoodie. There are just no time to waste, and too much on the stakes, to have One More Hug or One More Kiss to make either of them to hesitate and call off the plan. But like you said, while he cannot show her any feels to waver her decisions, he can secretly struggle against himself, secretly teared a little while stealing some secret gaze at her from afar....
5 more eps.... Writernim Song should dig thru that Emotional Treasure Cove in Lee Jongsuk to full usage.... he has so much deep emotional depths to harvest out, and so daring to go extra miles to do lovey dovey scenes, to grind your heart out with melo-display of his affections. i loved to see his tears glide down his cheeks, when he closed his pretty crystal eyes in torment.,.. So much that he can show. just like Yoo Seungho, he can be a melo-prince at the right time, nobody watch I can Hear you can forget that UnderWater World Museum Kissed Lee BoYoung in tears scene, that scene alone sealed him as Noona-Killer. (just a scene or two in melo won't kill the thriller-com genre).
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Yara
August 28, 2016 at 12:39 AM
When Kang Chul said "from now on I will summon myself......" "we will use the variables to our advantage....and when he asked Yeon Joo to draw something, could it be that Kang Chul willask Yeon Joo to do for him, what OSM does for the killer? I mean draw what the killer asks him to draw. Maybe that is how they (KC & YJ) will fight the killer and Han Cheol.
YJ was summoned to the webtoon by the killer and HAn CHeol Ho maybe because, in the killers new story, Han Cheol and the killer becomes the "main characters" and the main character is the only one who can summon YJ, the designated female lead, to the webtoon.
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People?!
August 28, 2016 at 2:57 AM
And they also did 'a romantic trip alone to the countryside' together as well!!!! How has nobody noticed that yet?!
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mel
August 28, 2016 at 7:17 PM
Is it possible that the webtoon door drawn for NFK's escape is drawn by Dad?
They never showed a door appearing whenever NFK showed up before he had a face and could control Dad so maybe dad was the one who helped NFK escape the W television set just like how he drew him bullets and gun?
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Sirf
August 30, 2016 at 6:01 AM
Am I the only one that kept internally cheering for option #4 when they were at his house together at the end?
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2 Anon-ymous
August 25, 2016 at 8:47 PM
Daebak
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apluszee
August 25, 2016 at 9:38 PM
I totally gave up predicting anything for this drama, it never goes as I expected it to be. I will just accept whatever they give me.
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Andechi
August 25, 2016 at 11:10 PM
I agree!! The roller coaster of mind just finally got me flying and I surrender with parachute on, hoping for a happy ending.
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Kestrel
August 25, 2016 at 9:44 PM
Indeed!
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miroufleur
August 26, 2016 at 2:10 AM
Exactly : W is Daeeee to the BaK :D
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Nami
August 27, 2016 at 5:57 PM
+1
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3 Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 8:48 PM
That moment when Kang Chul picked up book 34 of W and showed it to Yeon Joo, my jaw dropped, my heart skipped and my body shivered. Damn. I did not expect that.
Also...This...
When his hand started to glitch and disappear, I was like, "Do not pull a So-Hee. Do not pull a So-Hee."
I was also concerned about that can of beer. Please pick up the can of beer! Thou shall not let good beer go to waste.
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:02 PM
I so did not see that coming too. I just thought he picked up the idea of doing things when YJ mentioned about how her husband only did 4 romantic things from yesterday's episode. And then he proceeded to show the book! omg
Just my hunch... he's slowly disappearing because he spends his days doing nothing. He's not actively looking for the killer which is where his story revolves around and his sole purpose. Also because the turn of events seemed to have been focused now on the prosecutor and the Killer.
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:12 PM
That was great writing there. I didn't expect them to have Kang Chul circle back that way. That was a really sweet gesture considering that when he first learned the truth, he was all out butt hurt and confused. I think by spending time alone and picking up from what he read, it allowed him to really internalize stuff. There wasn't a need to make any rash decisions unlike before. So the 1 month which passed, really did him good. We saw a better version of Kang Chul as a result and now, he knows he has to get it right with Yeon Joo.
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:28 PM
Indeed. I was caught off guard by the reveal. I knew it's bound to happen but I was not expecting it to happen in this episode and in this way. Going back to the scenes, we should have been suspicious with his choice of words the minute he picked her up at the bus stop. I was a bit suspicious but I brushed them off. Even when he bought her a dress, I thought it's his small way of thanking her for saving him.
And I like the analysis of GF about the differences in the two timelines when KC learned the truth about being a manhwa character and how he asked what happens next to KC AND YJ because in the first timeline he was really focused only on what's happening to him. Also, he took his time to reveal to her that he has read their story.
I cannot wait to see what they'll come up with to fight the bad guys.
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kbaswithneko
August 26, 2016 at 5:09 AM
She needs that dress. She hasn't had a shower or a change of clothes in a week plus one month- poor girl.
Appelsin
August 26, 2016 at 11:38 AM
Me too!! I am so excited about what is to come. I think it is time for Chul to show how smart and genius he is and find a way out of this mess. He had time to read the manhwa and it is possible that he has been already planning something, while waiting for Yeon Yoo to confirm his suspicions... I also have faith in Yeon Yoo, who has proved to be quite resourceful. I can't wait to see them working as a team and taking down the evil guys. :D
@Kbas Lol! I was thinking the same all the time. How long it has been since she changed clothes? Let the girl have a shower!! ?
Liza
August 28, 2016 at 12:45 AM
Poor SB! He's been through a lot. Most people would develop a heart desease by now. He almost had a panic attack on the lawn after CK shot MS, then thought he'd get killed by the killer when he tried to shoot YJ and now since the killer took MS's face he is terrified. I really hope that nothing bad is going to happen to him in the next episodes. He's a good guy and we've seen what happens to some of the good guys who help the main characters in the movies. I really hope that there will be a happy ending or a compensation of some sort for his trauma too. After all, he's the only one who helped YJ in the real world. He always called her, cared for her well being, even bought her clothes after the jail event. Her father always had other things to do instead of worrying for YJ, but SB had her back, gave her pieces of advice like a true friend. I liked that. Now that I come to think of, he's the one she calls when she's in trouble so for that, it would be nice for him to be happy too. Maybe YJ will introduce him to SH somehow. After all, her password is his birthday
Lulu
August 25, 2016 at 9:51 PM
Hehe this recap was great! I like new-face better the doreamon ajushi
Also supper surprised by the reveal!
Haven't been this engaged since Signal or a American show GOT.
W is off evilly my favorite kdramain the romantic category because it has all my faves! Scifi, mystery, comedy, action, romance. O and horror for good measure
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Ren
August 25, 2016 at 9:49 PM
I was getting suspicious when he way buying her a dress, but then when he was leading her to eat ice cream with his hand on the small of her back, I was like omg this fool totally knows.
It's interesting because the Killer never faded when he was explicitly made irrelevant in the webtoon. By the rules of the drama, he should have disappeared when Kang Chul decided not to pursue revenge. I've stopped trying to make sense of the rules though, just keen to enjoy the crazy ride that is W.
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Elle
August 25, 2016 at 10:59 PM
The Killer didn't fade because he wasn't inside the webtoon at the time. He was in the real world terrorizing random cyclists and angsting about his lack of identity.
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mary
August 26, 2016 at 9:37 AM
The Killer didn't fade because he didn't give up. His goal is still to kill Kang Chul, even if Chul tries to forget him.
In this ep, the Killer is trying to make Chul less central to the story + Chul himself is losing motivation to do something about the real killer.
Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:36 PM
I agree with you @mary
It depends on the character's own conviction of their purpose.
Like, SH lost her heroin status in the first 4 episode but she did not start to disappear until episode 7.
When KC found SH in her flat and told her he needed her, YJ was still the heroin at the time. SH came back to be solid because KC convinced her.
Elle
August 26, 2016 at 6:09 PM
@mary It could be that. I wonder if Chul will stop fading once he's decided to pursue the Killer again.
Harambe
August 27, 2016 at 9:43 PM
I feel a bit mystified about KC's reaction to finding out about the manhwa. It's funny; the first time I completely empathized with KC. This time I feel as confused as YJ looks. :D He seems to have accepted it quite well; I guess the month he spent thinking it over helped, as well as being able to read about all of his decisions the first time it happened. At this point I feel like the conclusion he came to was: so I'm a manhwa character; I don't care, eff everything, I just want to be with Yeon Joo. :lol: I'm really looking forward to the next episode to get an insight as to where he's at with that. And I hope we get lots of BTS vids while we wait, hehe.
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Etude
August 28, 2016 at 12:50 AM
you know when you get too engaged in a drama when you search the web for statute of limitations in korea for murder ... hehe ... i am not a lawyer and i first heard of this from several k-dramas i've seen (and was conveniently used in 3 dramas this year) ... apparently what i learned is that it may apply to some crimes but in korea murder is not covered these days (it was in the past but was removed) ... lawyer can also look into double jeopardy wherein it forbids a defendant to be tried again (and should be difficult to make an appeal to re-open a case) ... i was hoping the drama veers away from another dream ... once is enough adding another one will ruin it (imo) ... maybe YJ can destroy the 'evidence' and erase it from the comics ... i must also say for a surgeon, YJ is pretty good in sketching ... i guess she inherited her dad's talent ...
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divyrus
August 25, 2016 at 10:43 PM
That flickering of his hand did me in!
He is the lead character! He is on run! All the more reason for story to revolved around him!
I cant take it if he really does disappear by end !! Writer nim - please please don't let him disappear! Disappearing is cruel than dying or not having a happy ending! There will be no trace of his existence ! He will be gone forever. After all he went through, its too sad. Don't don't don't make him disappear :(
He is fiction , he is not real is he? :'(
He is gonna leave me with a broken heart
Someone write me in a dream where I never started seeing W in first place ! :(
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WoneWorld
August 26, 2016 at 4:09 AM
I predicted this in episode 9 page 2 comments, that Kang Chul will find out about his identity through the manga that YJ left behind. Actually the writer leaves a lot of clues, you just got to watch the details :)
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Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:38 PM
Kudos to you.
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Four#4
August 27, 2016 at 9:46 PM
Right now actually I'm devastated for the 2nd time!! he didn't only accept his reality, he accepted his written fate and sad ending!! he's aware that he's about to disappeare but he's doing nothing to stop it or fight it back or find a way to fix his missed up life, he's only living and planning on paying Yeon Joo for saving him!! he just gave up on himself!! :bawling: I just hope that that will change when he'll face the psycho culprit and not only plan into bringing him down to get his revenge for his family and his father figure and to protect Yeon Joo and give her father and world back as it used to be before him entering her life!! :bawling:
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Titi
August 26, 2016 at 4:32 AM
Loool.
Granted W is a bit confusing and will crack your brain and make you think hard...but I love it!!! I absolutely love that we are not given the typical cliche "kdrama storyline" this is different and I so love it. N
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Yoyo
August 26, 2016 at 8:01 AM
@titi
Truck of doom is sad because of your "typical cliche" comment. Truck of doom would like to speak on behalf of all the tropes, that their contribution has provided rivers of tears, heaps of anger, jars of guilt and a mountain of broken hearts. Without such tropes, a typical kdrama storyline will be bland, tasteless and bitter.
Do not forget the clichés, it is what you (unknowingly) live for.
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Tiffany
August 30, 2016 at 7:06 AM
I didn't expect the book the make an appearance at all, it didn't even register that the writer would pull something like that on us in this situation!!
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Mis Ruby
August 30, 2016 at 7:29 AM
Now that u remind me, when we say no face for the first time he spoke in chyron while his figure was a glitchy screen. Next episode OSM is the one with a no face and speaking in chyron.
One episode, So Hee is fading out and the next one KC is fading.
Maybe using that we can somewhat decipher the brilliant author's mind?
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4 Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 8:50 PM
He learned how to cook!!! Well, he studied. But still!!
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Stalin
August 28, 2016 at 12:52 AM
I didn't realize it until just now (stupid me) but the level of trust Kang Chul places in Yeon Joo even before he reads vol 34 is staggering. A random lady who, to the best of his knowledge, might be a thieving lunatic kisses him and disappears, then mysteriously leaves a vial with three needles and instructions to inject himself. Okay, desperate times call for desperate measures but I noticed he didn't hesitate once. In the note, YJ urges him to do as she instructs like she's concerned he might doubt her - I mean, she did tell him in Soo Hee's apartment she's not a doctor - but KC never doubts her instructions or her help. It's just like before the reset where he knew she held secrets and seemed crazy but he could never suspect her as a person of being nefarious. Except this time her situation appears worse because at least in the original timeline she was constantly saving him, here he's only seen her drinking boxes of soju like water and breaking and entering with the intent to steal.
I'm like a crazy maniac myself replaying all the scenes where he picks her up at the bus stop and also where she's badass and erases the door and stuff. Also, I like how he calls for her in the hotel room because I'm some sort of masochist and even though I hate KC in pain I like seeing him need her because he is such a capable person and YJ is so used to lacking confidence in her actions and it's a nice turnaround. I don't know, I'm being weird.
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5 elvira
August 25, 2016 at 8:50 PM
HHJ expressing her/OHJ's heartbreak is the best of this drama. The twist makes my brain hurt.
Lord Soo Bong manseeeee!!!
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DontForgetYourHomework
August 26, 2016 at 11:59 AM
Let's hug Soo Bong! Poor guy caught in the crossfire! Aigoo
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Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:40 PM
This week's episode really showcased HHJ's acting. I mean I love her cuteness from the beginning but man, this week I feel her deeply.
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Hina
August 30, 2016 at 7:07 AM
HHJ is fast becoming one of my favorite actresses. I hadn't watched anything of hers before this, but I certainly will now! You just want to root for Yeon Joo she's playing her so sweet.
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6 drammmmaaaaaaaa
August 25, 2016 at 8:50 PM
Oh Yeon Joo really had the longest day of all….because technically she hadn’t eaten properly or bathed in days before she snuck into So-Hee’s place ..she finally got to eat — but then Kang Chul had to make his escape with her in the car. She helps him, goes home and has to deal with all of the problems awaiting her there…she then gets pulled back in before she can even figure that out.... She still hasn’t showered and only ate once….a month supposedly passes and a girl still hasn’t showered…. and even though she does all those cute things with Chul afterwards, she still hasn’t slept….like could a girl’s day get any longer?
Also — I’m a little afraid for the end of this drama. The end is approaching fast and obviously the number one problem to deal with is the psychotic but smart killer who’s on the loose. However, when all that’s said and done we still have to deal with our main issue: He’s a webtoon character and she lives in “the real world”. Like how are they going to fix this…..it’s sort of been ignored the past couple of episode (for good reason) but unless they pull a QIHM and make him magically appear in the real world to stay forever and ever with no actual concrete explanation, I’m still unsure of how they are going to make things work…..
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:01 PM
Love conquers all, even body odor.
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:14 PM
I need to find the recipe for that love potion,
may work in my workplace when I am late and forget to take a shower
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Kestrel
August 25, 2016 at 9:45 PM
Not sure I read that the way you wanted it to be read...
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loveblossom
August 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM
Now that you mentioned this drama's end, I just realized how fast this show is whizzing by.... It's suppose to be only 16 episodes right?
What a whirlwind. ;_;
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miroufleur
August 26, 2016 at 2:40 AM
it feels like the drama just started yesterday...damn 5 episodes left we really are heading towards the end so quickly...i hope we get a happy ending for the couple !
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Appelsin
August 26, 2016 at 11:44 AM
No, only 5 left? ? I hadn't thought about it. Time flies while watching W; it feels like it started yesterday...certainly I feel I haven't got a sufficient dose of Lee Jong Suk to wait until his next drama, I do not want him to dissapear from my screen yet. :(
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thursdaynexxt
August 26, 2016 at 8:02 AM
I know, right? Although some people have felt that the pace of the drama has dropped in the last few eps (also in part due to the Olympic pre-emptions), it's actually mind-boggling when you remember that the you're-the-main-character-in-a-manwha revelation and KC's portal jump into the Real World occurred in Episode 5!! What a wild ride!!!
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blueribbon
August 25, 2016 at 9:28 PM
Right poor girl, I wonder if all that is going to have a retaliation on her body when she goes back, like it did in earlier episodes.
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siesta
August 25, 2016 at 9:36 PM
ikr. i was like, since she slept for days the last time, why doesnt she collapse now? esp being deprived of food for over a month
oh well, plot hole exists. and love still conquers all, even bodily functions.
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deathbychocolate
August 26, 2016 at 2:37 AM
Adrenaline rush, maybe? This time it's quiet shorter too. Only a month.
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mary
August 26, 2016 at 6:58 AM
How can you sleep when Chul is feeding you ice cream and cooking pasta for you?
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DontForgetYourHomework
August 26, 2016 at 12:00 PM
Now that's a valid argument!
Lulu
August 25, 2016 at 10:13 PM
I was silently praying that she doesn't faint and please give her a break, a shower and most importantly FEED HER!
Those dark circles look freaken genuine! The cast must be tired. Hold on Guys 5 more episodes...only 5 more? So soon, too SOON! I'm not ready for post W yet. This drama came at us out of nowear with little expectations...I mean I though one good drama a year was my lot in life but hey their ...not a great drama per life! Gosh I don't want to jinx so knock knock on wood.
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The Emperor's New-Face
August 25, 2016 at 10:43 PM
Maybe they'll pull a My Love From the Star and create a wormhole that can magically merge both worlds lol
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frabbycrabsis
August 26, 2016 at 2:39 AM
I salute you for coming up with 'The Emperor's New-Face'.
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Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:45 PM
I already start to worry about the withdrawal after the drama end.
I'm not sure I could be this excited and engaged with a drama any more. Previously, I loved Signal but signal tugged my heart more the brain and did not give my brain so much exercise as this one.
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jay
August 26, 2016 at 8:23 PM
Her day lasted a whole month
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Stila
August 28, 2016 at 12:04 AM
Here's the most obvious flaw in the retconned recording of the murder of Kang Chul's family: on the tape, the father is killed first as evidenced by the mother's shocked cry but the mom is killed first at the scene. The forensics of the situation dictates she is the first one killed (entryway), followed by the dad (where the living room meets the entryway) and then the two siblings (the living room proper). Having merged with the dad - to the point where, he's now drinking the dad's preferred whiskey - I'd guess (maybe more hope?) psycho killer now shares the dad's traits of laziness and carelessness and has only gone as far as we've been shown and created a tape, not changed the actual forensics. Manhwa rules, the bad guys have to get caught and they usually hoist themselves on their own petard by being too clever by half. Evil prosecutor records damning phone calls, probably for future blackmail material, that should inevitably expose his shenanigans; psycho killer falsifies evidence but his flair for the dramatic - underage drinking! a suggestion of continuous parental abuse! screaming mother begging for peace! - should expose it for the lie it is.
The writer has the option of resetting everything as a dream from the very start and it is tempting but I feel like this reset proves it's a bad idea to monkey around willy nilly with events simply to avoid directly handling the situation. I mean, essentially KC and the gang pulled a Seung Moo - remember SM initially considered ducking the "manhwa is coming alive" situation all together before wildly attempting to murder his main character in order to "fix" the "problem." In fact, all the avoidance and attempts to undo/redo/murder things only served to up the ante (KC figured out there was another world influencing W), expand the story (Yeon Joo was pulled into W and made the heroine) and/or made things worse (psycho killer-puppet dad). Yes, KC's family shouldn't have died the way they did since there was quite literally no in-world reason for it, so I suspect that might get retconned at drama's end (I'd be more than okay if it isn't). But not as the main way to handle the psycho killer and evil prosecutor problem. I feel like earning one's ending and the importance of free will are the driving forces of the drama's back half. KC has to earn back the title previously gifted to him by the narrative, that of hero, in order to triumph.
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Hesh
August 30, 2016 at 7:09 AM
It didn't even occur to me how long of a day YG's been having, even with her wearing the same exact clothes for this long. I hope she finally gets to take her shower in her home, with Kang Chul overstaying her room!
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7 siesta
August 25, 2016 at 8:50 PM
after a month and 10 days of no shower for our poor gal it's a wonder he didn't run away screaming as soon as he gets a whiff of her! lol
love conquers all, y'all! (even bad hygiene XD)
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:03 PM
ohgod HAHAHAHAHAHA must be true love then
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siesta
August 25, 2016 at 9:37 PM
can't get truer than that! lol
move over Romeo
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deathbychocolate
August 26, 2016 at 3:04 AM
And here I was thinking at the final scene -- "Can this girl get to shower, change into a new set of clothes and brush her teeth before the confrontation?".
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agnes
August 25, 2016 at 9:06 PM
I think it's because he smells nothing bad from her ? he must think she always takes a shower and just wearing the same clothes again and again. kkkk
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Lord Cobol
August 25, 2016 at 9:21 PM
Maybe they can hire Girl Who Sees Smells to draw some pleasant odors to hide the others ? :)
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agnes
August 25, 2016 at 9:28 PM
ah Girl Who Sees Smells ?? it could be tha Kang-chul has lost his smelling ability to Oh Cho-rim. kkk
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rasonic
August 25, 2016 at 9:36 PM
I didn't even think about that!! Hahaha I wonder what people at the market were thinking!
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vanillasalt
August 25, 2016 at 11:33 PM
and we've only seen her brush her teeth once! Poor girl, hopefully once all of this has calmed down she'll have a me day at a spa or something.
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Lord Cobol
August 26, 2016 at 8:24 AM
They were lucky it was an outdoor market. Good ventilation.
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kanz
August 25, 2016 at 11:34 PM
I think Yeon Joo just showered off screen once she got home and when she comes again to manhworld.
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siesta
August 25, 2016 at 11:53 PM
she wouldn't have a chance to shower in the real world, she was too busy saving KC and fending off new-face. again in the manhwa she was too busy trying to find KC and he dropped the manhwa bomb before she managed to get into the bathroom (really, couldn't he have waited 10 more minutes?? selfish jerk)
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Lulu
August 27, 2016 at 6:49 AM
LOL haha @siesta you comments just make me laugh so much! High 5!
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Err
August 30, 2016 at 7:12 AM
I don't think she showered off screen. She's wearing the same clothes when she gets pulled in again by the assemblyman. I doubt she'd shower, only to end up wearing the same clothes she was wearing for a week again.
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Kat
August 26, 2016 at 12:02 AM
I'm really thinking over and over again how poor Yeon Joo survived without getting itchy wearing the same underwear for over a month.
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numberfour
August 26, 2016 at 3:40 PM
agree. who cares about a new dress when you have no fresh underwear? also, no chance for an underarm shave. ughhh
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8 hallie
August 25, 2016 at 8:51 PM
Damn I cried again! But glad this time it's not because of sadness. I'm just too happy that Chul finally knows who Yeonjoo is. When he asked her if her husband who suddenly disappeared is him, suddenly my eyes are flooded with tears.
Honestly I don't even remember about the comic book that brought along with Yeonjoo to the manhwa world. So I didn't expect that the key for Chul to remember Yeonjoo would be that book. It makes me sure that the writer is so detail and smart that never fail to surprise me. A little thing that seems not important turns out to be the gate to reunite our hero and heroine. Salute to the writer.
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9 Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 8:53 PM
^5 Yeon Joo! Our girl is getting better at drawing and plotting storylines, even under immense pressure. *pat on the back* fighting!!!
My my my Soo-Bong, why'd you have to drag Seok Beom into this? Professor Crazy Dog would have been the best candidate.
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Qu3in
August 25, 2016 at 9:48 PM
So true. Lol
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mary
August 26, 2016 at 7:00 AM
Nah, Crazy Dog would've stolen the tablet and killed Yeon-joo and just rush the So-hee/Chul wedding.
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DontForgetYourHomework
August 26, 2016 at 12:04 PM
To think that Crazy Dog goes on and on about how he hates Makjang... when he's the one shipping the original OTP of W before OYJ arc. He likes KCxSH too much. tsktsktsk.
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Sting
August 27, 2016 at 10:38 PM
God!!!!!! This show is epic.. I mean it.. I can't even express in words. This writer deserve an applause and actors are simply awesome..
If last time, we felt bad for YJ, then this time, it was KC. How many of you felt like crying when he said I can't buy you expensive stuff
This show is heart.. Love LJS and love HHJ
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thursdaynexxt
August 26, 2016 at 8:06 AM
OMG, yes!! When Seok Beom was snooping round Dad's studio, I kept expecting him to turn on a PC monitor and get dragged into manwha-world (by the Killer, like as not)!
I now ship Su Bong with Seok Beom (sorrynotsorry, So Hee). In fact, I ship Kang Ki Young in any kind of bromance - he's ideal bromance OTP material!
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numberfour
August 27, 2016 at 6:08 PM
i disagree. her storyline sucks! she totally had the intention of making this arc into a dream again.
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Usurper
August 30, 2016 at 7:13 AM
I wonder if she was actually considering making EVERYTHINF a dream, and turning her husband back into a high schooler.
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10 Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 8:53 PM
YJ is so clever, drawing that little alarm clock along with the other stuff. I had worried how KC would notice the new supplies in that state. Then the clock appeared and went off. LOL.
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 8:56 PM
It would have been perfect if she drew stacks of cash, a couple bottles of soju and some chips to go with it.
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 8:59 PM
I think she is not on that skilled yet since she needs to really see the thing before drawing it, like the painkiller ,
not all people who good at drawing character can draw background or item properly, they may mess up the proportion
but cash is badly needed
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halfmoon
August 25, 2016 at 9:10 PM
She could have drawn some cash, food and water, clean clothes, etc but I think she didn't have time . She draw the medical supplies first (as she should) but got interrupted by New-Face. Then the tablet had to remain turned off.
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Kestrel
August 25, 2016 at 9:47 PM
I assume that's how Kang Chul got a clean shirt when he sauntered out of the room ready for a revenge catwalk.
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Amilia
August 25, 2016 at 10:21 PM
I thought he was washing his clothes in the sink. And somehow making them look better than I can make my clothes look after washing them in the sink and letting them drip dry.
halfmoon
August 25, 2016 at 10:30 PM
@ 10.1.2.1.1 Amilia -- ahh... if only we could have seen KC shirtless, while he was washing his shirt in the sink...
lunaticandra
August 25, 2016 at 9:17 PM
She definitely will, if only a creepy pair of hands in leather glove wouldn't suddenly choke her in the throat...
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?????
August 30, 2016 at 7:16 AM
Am I the only one left wondering what Kang Chul was eating while locked in that door-less room recovering for an entire month? And if he hand washed his shirt, WHY weren't we given a shirtless scene ???
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lunaticandra
August 30, 2016 at 7:08 PM
He wasn't there for an entire month. He just stayed for several day. 2-3 days on top. Until he can regain his strenght and keep moving. He is out in hiding and his parents' house is the 4th place he went to. About food, I am in with everyone. It is hotel/motel. They surely has minibar. And about the shirt... I think episode 11 is not our lucky day. hahaha
Lord Cobol
August 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM
She mostly needed to send food. Otherwise I don't think KC lasts long enough in the motel room to heal and walk away. Minor plot hole there.
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siesta
August 25, 2016 at 9:59 PM
gotta wonder if that plot hole will suddenly gain free will and come back to bite us in the ass sometime soon
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Lulu
August 25, 2016 at 11:01 PM
Haha @siesta gotta admit I never been so scared of plot holes. Really glad I'm not a writer. Too much pressure.
Qu3in
August 25, 2016 at 10:03 PM
Maybe he only stay there for 2 or 3 days? Until he can move again. And get his supplies at his old house. I don't think he would stay long at the motel without knowing for sure it is really safe or not.
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Qu3in
August 25, 2016 at 10:13 PM
Plus maybe there is a fridge in the room. Some food n drinks.
Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 11:05 PM
A lot hotel rooms have food stocked, charging a steep price of cause.
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kanz
August 25, 2016 at 11:36 PM
Sometimes hotel also provide us with snacks, mineral water, coffee and tea and he could call room service if he's hungry, no?
siesta
August 25, 2016 at 11:55 PM
@kanz call room service and have the food delivered to a wall? XD
kanz
August 26, 2016 at 5:35 AM
@siesta ah I forgot about this part. LOL
But I think Kang Chul only stayed in the hotel for a short time, probably 1-2 days. Just before he starved. LOL
Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 8:57 PM
I also applaud her quick thinking to write the instruction in the letter, I really didn't know how they can communicate,
I almost thought to make a new character, but a character needs plan and tons of detailed things , their history, their personality so they can work properly and not join the dark force also Kang Chul may not approve that kind of practice
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:05 PM
Our girl is so smart! And so is our guy! I love them!
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rlg07
August 25, 2016 at 9:29 PM
I love it that they are both smart! They both have to work through things on their own, in their own ways. But I love it that they both have brains and skillz. I can't wait to see them working together, now that they know they're on the same side again!
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 10:13 PM
They're smart. They communicate well. They work together. They protect each other. I'm so done with these two. lol
agnes
August 25, 2016 at 9:30 PM
their kids must be doing well in the school later ?
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rlg07
August 25, 2016 at 9:44 PM
I did notice the book coming with her and was hoping someone would find it. It's a nice plant--it looks like background scenery, except it turns out to be a freakishly important plot turning point. But I love how it played out! Kang Chul has really grown up a lot in this round of his existence. Before, he had tons of power. He was used to being wealthy and powerful. So he could throw around some of that power, bestow his largess upon Yeon Joo, etc. I mean, it was good of him to help her and join the romantic sequel with her, but...this time, life is just a lot harder for him. He's powerless against the shooter, weird things are happening all around him (the gun drawn in his hand), he now has access to NO money... I think that once he loses some of his really insane levels of power and influence, YJ's plight really hits him. Both her starvation and her grief for her lost husband. Even though he doesn't know who she is--and who he is to her--he just develops a lot more compassion in this round. And her overactive powers are limited, too--she's not just an invincible visitor, but has become someone who can be hurt or starved in the manwha. And even though she's been able to do some drawing, it gets cut off. So, it's bad for them to lose some of their power, but on the other hand, it sure levels things out between them a lot. Which can only be good for their relationship.
Anyway, I really liked how she never told him. He wouldn't have believed it if she had. He had to work it out for himself--first, by being moved by her story of the disappearing husband, and second, by finding third party proof to back it up. Ahh, I can't wait to see what happens next!
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mary
August 26, 2016 at 7:04 AM
But Chul already experienced being poor and isolated. When he got out of jail and everyone was judging him, remember?
He got mad at So-hee for turning Yeon-joo over to the police because he knows from experience how hard it is to be alone and friendless and unable to defend yourself.
Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 9:10 PM
Drawing a new character is too too dangerous, especially for plot device!!
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Waifu
August 30, 2016 at 7:21 AM
Drawing a new character is too complicated and could go badly and derail on her or Kang Chul. Writing a message was the best option, and I'm so happy Yeon Joo was smart enough to consider instructions it wouldn't even have occurred to anyone else. Our leads are so clever!
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Appelsin
August 26, 2016 at 11:49 AM
Lol! At that time I was thinking: "write a message in the wall, girl!" But she was so much clever and elegant than me, I would make a huge disaster if I was ever in Yeon Yoo's situation ?
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11 Jussie
August 25, 2016 at 8:54 PM
In some ways, there are resemblance of characteristics between this drama and Queen in Hyun's man ... maybe because both are from the same writer ...
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12 greenanne
August 25, 2016 at 8:54 PM
I had a bad experience with Yong Pal, so I was skeptical about whether this show will keep up its writing and directing quality until the end. But at this point, episode 11, I think all of my skepticism has gone, because, oh my god, this show just keeps getting BETTER. SO MUCH BETTER.
I really have faith that it will end strong and keep us mind blown until the very end. The writer of this show is doing an amazingly intelligent work.
W!
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greenanne
August 25, 2016 at 8:56 PM
I do wish that she will come up with something better than making it all a dream again though!
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:06 PM
I'm hoping too actually although I think it's inevitable. I just hope we'll get a surprising result different from the first reset due to the dream.
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Lord Cobol
August 25, 2016 at 9:29 PM
My idea for an ending: Kang Chul & Yeon-joo distract new-face long enough for Soo-Bong to turn on the tablet and draw him 1,000 feet over an active volcano. No parachute, of course.
Requires one more round-trip for Yeon-joo to tell Soo-Bong the plan, but that's not likely to be a problem.
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Amilia
August 25, 2016 at 10:27 PM
I could get behind this idea. Love it! ???
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siesta
August 25, 2016 at 10:51 PM
or Truck of Doom could run him over. multiple times.
Just Because.
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Jane
August 26, 2016 at 12:35 PM
Plus, TOD has been working for long. Always the dumb villain. He would love to play the good guy and save the day.
Amilia
August 25, 2016 at 10:29 PM
The dream idea was just the first thing to come up during a brainstorming session. They still have time to come up with something awesome. I have faith!
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loveblossom
August 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM
Yong Pal was by a different writer though.
I agree that I wish they would do an alternative from the dream method though!
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Tin
August 30, 2016 at 7:23 AM
This show is SO not Yong Pal. And any doubts I had about the story keeping up it's pace have been long erased post reset! This writer is just too good!
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13 Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 8:55 PM
"I'm losing my mind."
We feel you, Kang Chul. We feel you.
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:07 PM
We lost our minds from the very first episode! HAHAHAHA
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rasonic
August 25, 2016 at 9:37 PM
Soooo true!!! ??
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miroufleur
August 26, 2016 at 2:46 AM
lol we all lost our minds couple of episodes ago :D
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14 celine
August 25, 2016 at 8:56 PM
I just love how the writer decided to use the comic book! It could have been easily forgotten by the viewers but there it is!
I did not see that one coming. Him having read the comic book hence his suspicious choice of words from the moment he picked her up from the bus stop caught me off guard. I initially thought he had some residual memories. YJ did mention during her rant in Sohee's apartment about being able to do only four romantic things, so here I thought KC just picked up on that BUT HELL NO! He read the freakin' comic book from cover to cover! When he showed the book I literally went "HOSHIT!"
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Lord Cobol
August 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM
Someone sure called it right before about the comic being a huge clue.
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Claudia
August 26, 2016 at 2:33 AM
Regarding the comic book #34, we see that it finishes when KC is in the water, right? After throwing himself from the bridge? Right?
So, how can he know about the tasks and romantic things, and marrying YJ if THAT happens AFTER waking up from being in the water?
Is it a plot hole? Is it a production mistake? Or is he remembering?
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shelly
August 26, 2016 at 3:12 AM
the book doesn't end there, there's some third of it left after the water. i guess you could fit the revival and most of the romantic parts in it. not sure if it had all of it... maybe he didn't get to read the character disappearance part yet, so he doesn't know what's happening to him now. or maybe he did.
at this point, i've given up trying to explain things lol, i'm just going along for the ride :D
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Raine
August 26, 2016 at 3:46 AM
I don't think comic book #34 ends with KC in the water. I went back to look at that scene and when he flipped to that page, you can see that there's still some parts left to the comic book. Remember how KC himself said that he "read" the part about the romantic tasks? That's another proof that the comic book includes at least up to those parts. I'm guessing it probably ended at the rooftop-suicide scene. So KC asks YJ what happens afterwards. Did KC really forget about YJ in the next volume?
Interesting thing, I actually went back to look at the scene where YJ was cutting out pages of the comic book to paste on her window. You can see that it's volume #34 by the cover. So those scenes she pasted on the window are all in #34. And I just realized upon rewatching this scene in detail, but she bought two copies of #34! I was wowed by such attention to detail, since I didn't even notice it before. So basically, she bought one for herself and another to cut-out of. The one she brought over to the comic world is actually the second copy that she didn't touch with her paper cutter lol
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Claudia
August 26, 2016 at 4:33 AM
Wow, hadn't noticed! Thnks @Raine and @shelly!! :)
So I guess there was a fourth: my mistake.
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Claudia
August 26, 2016 at 4:40 AM
Thnks @Raine and @shelly!
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catt
August 26, 2016 at 8:02 AM
I cant really recall the detail, but I'm kinda sure the manhwa is released twice: web version and print version (in japan they call it tankoubon). I assume it is like this:
Web version ends at the bridge scene. Readers include Crazy Dog read the web version online. At this time, the print isn't released yet. Then several additional chapters are out. Maybe around this time publisher needs to release print version. And they featured all released chapter in volume 34.
Thus volume 34 ends with newest chapter, not the bridge scene.
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15 siesta
August 25, 2016 at 8:58 PM
i watched it this morning with subs and regretted it ever since. now my head is full of KC and YJ and idek how i function at work lol
but yaay KC is back in da hawwz!
so i guess Lady Destiny does not like to be thwarted and all rods leads back to them together, and him finding out out the lie(s) that was his life. i wonder about his reaction this time around tho- last time he found out about the manhwa he freaked out and literally hit rock bottom. why not now? now he's relatively calm and not as despairing as he was back then, even though his situation is even worse now. is the write trying to tell us that his brief romance with YJ (remembered or not) actually healed him a little bit so he's not as shaken as he was before? or maybe now that he got a month to process it all he could be more accepting of his 'fate' and all?
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Ren
August 25, 2016 at 9:53 PM
Yeah the Olympic scheduling really messed with the cliff hangers. I actually gasped and screamed out a no when the episode ended where it did.
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beanie
August 25, 2016 at 9:57 PM
I think the major difference is that when he found out the first time, he was in a much better place within the W world. All his trauma and psychological problems aside, he was a well-loved person in the W world with a lot of power. His life wasn't perfect, but it was a life he worked hard to gain for himself. Discovering all that was a lie and his life's purpose was in vain was devastating.
This second time around, his life has turned upside-down. He's a fugitive, he's trapped hiding out alone in his house, and he thinks he's going crazy because he's been seeing things ever since Ajusshi got shot. Nothing makes sense and he's backed into a corner with nowhere to go. Discovering his world is fake is almost a relief at this point, I think.
Also: his life's purpose, hunting down the killer and clearing his name, is not an endless hamster wheel in this scenario. The killer's very much real. Chul might not have many options at the moment, but at least that life purpose is validated in this second timeline.
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kbaswithneko
August 26, 2016 at 5:35 AM
Like your response! Although his reaction was different, it still made sense given his established character.
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Appelsin
August 26, 2016 at 11:59 AM
Your idea is very clever! :D It totally makes sense that given the new situation and having much more knowledge, Chul would react in a different way. He still has an enemy that he needs to take down. Also, now he has Yeon Yoo, and even if he cannot remember her, if he accepts that he shared that love story with her, that makes Yeon Yoo someone he has to protect. They made a big sacrifice in order to protect each other's life, he should be moved and at least curious to find out what Yeon Yoo means to him.
Finally, I am sure that Chul had time to think about the way forward, now that he knows all the details. He only needs to confirm with Yeon Yoo that all he read is true. But I bet he will have some ideas on how to fight the villains from now on.
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16 diggy
August 25, 2016 at 8:59 PM
Watched this episode on the train on the way to work. I was screaming internally when I saw that manhwa in KC's hand. Damn.
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17 lunaticandra
August 25, 2016 at 9:00 PM
I almost mistaken kang chul's 'my will is good' with 'my will is gone' and have an aww what a spot on moment. ?
So, are we finally have our pace and cliffhanger balance back to the universe? Because this episode is so reasuringly down into fill in the blank mode. Now that our hero finally knocked back in gear, the story can move on from running on its circle. I am so excited to see kang chul finally in gear. Everything is wacky when he is in charge.
And that comic book!
I have guessed it all along. But to finally see it executed still make me awed. What an excelent payoff for a small detail..
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:09 PM
It does feel like we're back on track because this, though being an odd-numbered episode, feels like our usual 2nd/week episode ending. The cliffhanger is perfect!
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:26 PM
I think we back in track,
ep 9 has 25 minutes flashback
ep 10 has 5+ minutes in early ep and small things here and there + PPL like 5 minutes
ep 11 has 1 minutes recap from ep 1-10 and 2,5 minutes for replaying the last episode (it start from the kiss)
it looks like the pace is back
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shelly
August 26, 2016 at 3:15 AM
sooo... does that mean maybe we could have an episode 17 just to round things up? :D
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Lin
August 27, 2016 at 9:50 PM
When Soobong screamed at faceless Dad I found that scene so funny even though it was meant to be terrifying and whatever:w00t: Now Yeonjoo needs to figure out a way to get Kangchul out of this mess that Dad created. What's worse Dad is now at the mercy of killer yikes:crazy: My heart ached for Yeonjoo when Kangchul failed to recognise her but he seems to feel a connection to her somehow otherwise how to explain why he didn't turn her over to the police? Love wins against all odds indeed.
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Hershie
August 30, 2016 at 7:25 AM
Soobong is the comic relief we all need, god knows we'd all be pulling our hair out in anticipation if not for some humour every now and then.
18 Annika
August 25, 2016 at 9:03 PM
I want to see more of Su-bong & Seok-beom tandem.
So Seok-beom is one of those rare people who doesn’t read W. No wonder he didn’t recognize Kang Chul up close. I wonder what his reaction will be next week if he sees real life Kang Chul in real world since he’s seen the drawings of him already up close.
So it looks like dad is literally a puppet. Like his soul, face and identity is taken by the culprit and is using his body to heed his commands from the W world to the real world.
I literally screamed when dad grab Yeon Joo’s hand as she tries to get the tablet.
It looks like the main characters can drag Yeon Joo to W world – Main protagonist (Kang Chul), Main female lead (herself – I think her wanting to see Kang Chul dragged her there before after Chul forgot about her because if it’s the Main antagonist is doesn’t make sense.), and Main antagonist (The Culprit).
Kang Chul disappearing…hhmmm…I have 3 possible reasons.
1. The W world is now ruled by the original antagonists so switching the roles makes him not the main protagonist losing that purpose of character.
2. He’s not saving the W world and is a fugitive there so his reason of existence as the hero is invalid thus disappearing.
3. He’s changing. Evolving from a mere comic character to a real person like Yeon Joo who could cross dimensions. First it was his right arm then left arm (if I’m right I guess those body parts are real now.)
I love his reaction when he discovered and read the manhwa. It was realistic because he didn’t have amnesia. If it was, he would regain the forgotten memories already and know that Yeon Joo is his wife but no because it was a dream. A DREAM HE CAN’T REMEMBER. So his reaction makes sense. It’s not in his memory as something he experienced but more like an imagination.
From the preview I’m so excited next week!
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:32 PM
I also love his reaction. It makes sense. He did not miraculously remember everything and boy am I glad that the writer decided to went this route.
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Indigo
August 26, 2016 at 12:49 AM
@Annika, I agree that your reasons 1 & 2 are why Chul's disappearing.
Since he's been in hiding
1) he's not a part of an active story line thus not fulfilling his role as main character and,
2) he's not going after the killer...that's his purpose as hero of the current version of the story.
He has to confront the killer.
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Alessar
August 26, 2016 at 6:40 AM
Su-bong and Seok-bum... I might ship them a little. ;)
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Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:58 PM
Seok-beom read the manhwa W. We saw him commenting on SH's chest in episode 2. However, I don't think anyone would quickly recognize KC in the real world. A drawing is still a drawing. They have huge differences with 3D real men. Not to mention, normally people's thoughts would not go that 'manhwa characters become alive' direction.
The only person who recognized KC is SB because he is in the know about KC coming out of the manhwa.
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Gain
August 27, 2016 at 9:59 PM
To answer the question why KC was fading out is because YJ had been gone for a month and he was out of the story and just like his secretary was no longer the main character in the book. I also see this ending with them living happily ever after in her world because she created him and he must exist there somewhere,
This episode made me think of the killer's motives because he knows that this is a comic and if KC is killed the series ends which means they all will die, I also didn't get why he had to take the dad's face when the dad had given him his face. So I'm guessing that somehow the dad will revive and finish things.
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FIN
August 27, 2016 at 9:53 PM
Kang Cheol didn't remember he only put the peices together and wanted Yeon Joo to confirm for him that what he's thinking about is true!! those flashbacks are for us but not him really remembering some moments with Yeon Joo, he's only realising that he is the Kang Cheol in the manhwa, the only memory he gained and he thought it was a nightmare at 1st was him drowning the 2nd time he tried to commit suicide and he mut figured out that it wasn't really a nightmare but he was really downing!!
I freaked out when I saw his hand diappearing and it kept on happening which is killing me with sadness and worriesome!! I don't think his friends believe that he's rally a murderer but still they can't help him since nothing can be done!! and Kang Cheol doesn't seame concerned about vanishing and only is keeping on living with no real purpose which I can understand but I need him to to stop believing in his sad ending and keep on fighting back!! it felt as if he's fulfilling his bucket list (the marked pages by Yeon Joo and fighting the psycho culprit) before "dying"=vanishing making sure that he will leave Yeon Joo with many happy moments and safe in her world and avanging his family but still not believe in his happy ending!!
I'd really love it if Kang Cheol is the only one who's capable to open that door between the two worlds whenever he wants I want him to have ome advantage againt that psycho culprit who looks like he's having some limit after all! *jumpingofhappinss*
I think we will have those sweet moments on episodee 12 :blush: but still I feel sad knowing it's Kang Cheol's happy farewell to Yeon Joo before reaching his sad ending as he believes!!
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Stan
August 30, 2016 at 7:27 AM
I like that the context-no context theme is there. Kang Chul is still as logical as always, and he'll only believe in the most likely theory no matter how impossible it may seem.
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19 Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:07 PM
I'm really impressed by how they got Kang Chul to circle back and put the pieces together. It seemed less painful for him and how he found a better way to channel his emotions by understanding what really happened by reading the manwha, allowed him to have better judgements and by better I mean, finding Yeon Joo and asking for her help to finally get things right. Good job, Kang Chul. You're a better version of yourself now.
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lunaticandra
August 25, 2016 at 9:36 PM
It is definitely would be less shocking for him considering how he already witnessed absurd things happened to him. Shock aside, deep inside he might be relieved that he doesn't actually lose his mind thinking that his hand is flickering, a gun just conjured out of nowhere, the disappearence of doraemon's door and so on.. oh the list is endless..
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20 Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 9:08 PM
I saw a very very beautiful piece on Chul's thoughts, based on the hints from the dialogues in this episode.
http://hitoritabi.tumblr.com/post/149469127492
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:28 PM
aaah that's really good,, can we posted it here?
I don’t remember you.
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I hope you appear before I disappear.
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erratic
August 25, 2016 at 9:30 PM
T_T
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:33 PM
I read that earlier and I was in tears...
"I hope you appear before I disappear." /bawling
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:40 PM
Professor Crazy Dog would be wailing and cussing.
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phoe
August 25, 2016 at 11:22 PM
Aw, that was very touching...
I hope you appear before I disappear.
very nice
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Rose T
August 25, 2016 at 11:23 PM
OMG! I was teary-eyed while I was reading this link. I love this show!!!
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iamnotyou
August 26, 2016 at 3:54 AM
This will be fantastic if it is REAL
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mary
August 26, 2016 at 7:13 AM
I am wrecked.
Goodbye, cruel drama.
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Kinsa
August 30, 2016 at 7:29 AM
OH GOD.. *tears*
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21 namedx
August 25, 2016 at 9:09 PM
Yep, dad still freaks me out. Yikes!
Thanks for the recap, Girlfriday!
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22 alissa
August 25, 2016 at 9:09 PM
The 'sweet things' he did for HJ for some reason left me cold. Like he was going thru it just because. I think because for me he was a jerk to her when they were in the car. Then it went downhill for me.
The reveal about the manga was daebak but the romance go puff for me during this episode.
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alissa
August 25, 2016 at 9:10 PM
Thanks for the quick recap Girlfriday! Thanks as always!
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:19 PM
I think they felt distant because YJ actively avoid to tell the secret and make him confused again,
then kangchul now only has memory, no deep affection since his characterisation is back to the original, the girl he cares is not OYJ, but he is given the information about their memory, but the feeling just not come back yet,
gosh this kinda sad but I understand how this happen,
still it's sad.
the preview for romance in the next ep is looked worth it though
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alissa
August 25, 2016 at 9:44 PM
Yes. I agree with your explanation that he is a diff version of the KC so there is really no deep affection.
I think i felt bad for HJ because KC knows how much help she was to him during his time of need and yet he was so careless in using her 'simple romance' requests when he already knows how she is hurting when she talked about his husband.
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:37 PM
I get what you mean. I was hoping for a huge emotional punch when it's revealed, but I guess the writer decided to go for suspense instead. It's still awesome though. Let's wait for the next episodes and we'll probably get the emotional/romantic payoff there now that they're together and will work together.
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beanie
August 25, 2016 at 10:29 PM
Think of it this way: what does he have to gain from doing all those sweet things for her "just because"? He's on the run from the police. Going shopping with her was risky as it is -- what if someone saw him? He'd have been toast. Every day he doesn't turn himself in, he looks guiltier and guiltier to the general public, and his sentence gets longer and longer. The only reason he hasn't turned himself in already is because he wanted to see her again first.
He didn't HAVE to do any of that for her. She had no idea he had read the manwha. He could have very easily pretended he hadn't and continued acting like she was a stranger (after all, he doesn't remember her), or taken her straight to his place and quizzed her about it if he wanted to know the truth about the manwha. She never asked him to do the homework in this timeline.
He's disappearing from existence: he quite literally has no time for this.
But in spite of that, he spends the day with her. He does a bunch of nice things for her. He buys her things with his currently-very-limited funds. He tries to rekindle a romance he doesn't even remember having with her because he wants to have it back.
I mean, he read that book cover to cover so many times he had it memorized. Boy owns a TV. There were plenty of other ways to keep himself busy. He memorized that book because it was the closest he could get to remembering the life that book told him he had led.
It didn't look like he was planning on telling her he read the manwha until after she had showered, changed, and eaten dinner. He chose to give her a day of sweet romance, without any stress, during what is probably the worst time for him to do so. (He's disappearing!! His archenemy has control over his world!! KC, buddy, you're sweet, but maybe now isn't the best time to go on a date with your wife.)
As for the hints he kept dropping in the car and onward: I think he was still half-convinced he was going crazy. He's a genius, he can rationalize everything (his powers of rationalization arguably broke the fourth wall the first time). The most rational explanation for what was going on around him was that he was going insane.
So he dropped hints from the manwha into their conversation to see if she'd recognize anything -- not to tease her -- because if she didn't, then he hallucinated the whole manwha like he'd hallucinated his car changing, his arm disappearing, the gun appearing in his hand. She was his only barometer for sanity, and her confronting him about the homework comment was all the proof he needed to know he wasn't crazy.
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alissa
August 25, 2016 at 11:00 PM
Thanks Beanie! that was well very well said
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beanie
August 25, 2016 at 11:54 PM
I hope it helped! I always hate it when I can't buy into a romance on a show. XD
I love Yeon Joo a ton, but KC is more similar to me as a person (he acts on his feelings, but he doesn't say things out loud, and he hides his true thoughts from others a lot of the time) -- so I feel like I get him better than I do Yeon Joo, if that makes sense. I know a lot of others find him difficult to read, though.
He doesn't come across as cold to me, just stoic. The scene that really got me with him this ep was when he was dreaming about Ajusshi dying on the bed, and while dreaming, he does what he didn't let himself do during the actual confrontation: he cries like a little boy that "it's not me, it's not me." And after that, he begs Yeon Joo to show herself, because he needs her. I feel like if he wasn't so weak from blood loss he wouldn't have let himself say either of those things out loud. He's just that kind of person: he'll rush to embrace YJ after hallucinating her death... but he won't say "I can't watch you die" out loud until he knows he can say it without betraying how scared he is. That's why he laughs to himself so often, too, to pretend he's not as affected by a situation as he is. It's a way for him to feel like he's in control of his life and his interactions with others; a control which, of course, he only feels like he needs because he doesn't trust others not to hurt him if he shows himself so baldly.
...Wow, I totally did not mean to write another essay. I'm sorry! XD I have feelings.
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celine
August 26, 2016 at 12:04 AM
I also hate it when I can't buy into a romance especially when I really want to. Thanks for your input. I still love these two as individuals and as a pair despite some of my little issues about how their romance played out.
Lulu
August 27, 2016 at 7:22 AM
@beanie Awwwwww is my feels
Thanks for helping me better KC's perspective and personality. I admit doubting LJS's acting cause it was hard to know his thoughts and true emotions. Personal I still dream HHJ as the better actress cause she grounds me and emotionally carries me through the show. Haha her self dialogues sure help a lot. That said it's much easier on her part because her role wears her heart on her sleeve.
Though I do find that if The heroin don't click for me than its usually much harder to watch the show. Unless it's very HERO/male lead centric (most movies or city hunter, six flying dragons, or measang)
That being said I do still think that Both are were a great cast! LJS is a sharp and cool Comic character and HHJ is a smart, vulnerable and brave Heroin. I couldn't have asked for a better smart ass couple!
SB proves that side characters can shine!
Chick
August 30, 2016 at 8:23 AM
Very well said Beanie! I don't need for the romance to be constant or in your voice, as of now I like it when it's there when the story requires it to be, and not just for the sake of feels.
Yoyo
August 26, 2016 at 2:25 AM
Question is, was is it all just an experiment to him?
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beanie
August 26, 2016 at 10:58 AM
I hope so. Don't all his experiments involve kissing? ;)
But in all seriousness: I don't think it was, personally. Not just because I think he got a huge crush on Yeon Joo by reading about what she's gone through (how much do I love that she got a crush on him by reading about him in a comic, and now he's got a crush on her by reading about her in a comic? I love it so much, is the answer to that question) -- but also because writing-wise, it just doesn't make sense to have him faking or playing a game or an experiment with her this late in the story. We've only got a few episodes left, and the emotional stakes are high. They only get lower if he's not legitimately falling in love with her again.
I mean, that shopping/ice cream scene just slays me.
Someone on tumblr pointed out he keeps competing with the version of himself he read in the comic, and saying things he didn't say the first time. ("I know I don't have to take you shopping. I'm doing this because I WANT to take you shopping." "Okay, so I can't buy you a $3,000 dress like the other guy, but just know in my heart I really wish I could." "Maybe the other guy couldn't cook, but I spent a month teaching myself how to make a fancy pasta dish for you to eat.")
He's trying so hard, I can't believe it's not sincere.
sooyeon
August 26, 2016 at 2:28 AM
wow beanie!
just one word for you.
DAEBAK!
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Shiria
August 26, 2016 at 5:32 PM
First off I wish for the next episode to start with her scolding him to stop doing the homework because it's meaningless if not done by a couple in love.
I'm unsure whether he really thinks she'd be happy just because it's HIM is doing that stuff for her, or he is just desperate enough to do as much as he can to compensate her for the mistakes of version1 Kang Chul since he doesn't know how much time he has left and how much he will be able to do for her.
Also I think he himself really wanted to have a day off from worries to spend in a 'light-hearted atmosphere'.
I guess in the car he was provoking her and checking her reactions, to see whether he is completely loony to believe what was written in a comic. Afterwards he stopped messing with her and just treated her kindly. He was trying really hard to lift the mood that he got a little too immersed in his solo couple behavior, and together with her bewilderment it left us with an awkward feeling. But in terms of romance I surprisingly think it's progress. Why? Because when you carefully consider, it's the first time he put this adorably much effort into something out of his own initiative!
Let's note that from the start Kang Chul was no Romeo. He has been pretty clueless and clumsy in regards to love. Even in timeline1, let's be honest, wth was this picking romance options 1,2,3,4 lol? Glad he didn't give her a checklist^^ Also did loveline1 really start out better? After she revived him he spat some really ugly words at her (do you enjoy playing god and stuff), until she confessed her love. Then out of nowhere he grabbed, kissed and married her ... here he was obviously testing her too!
I really give him credit for criticizing himself and version1 Kang Chul for being an idiot in many ways^^. I have to admit that I'm still pissed as a hellhound, because neither him nor her father ever considered her feelings while plotting their 'happy ending' for the reset. On top of that - he could have at least finished those freaking 10 things before separating from her! But knowing Kang Chul2 agrees with me makes me put my inner tiger to rest lol.
After reading that comic I'm sure he already has a crush on her, on top of that he feels thankful for her endless attempts on saving him, plus he feels sorry for her going through all that hardships. Most importantly he knows it's his fault and tries to make it up to her. Also I think he feels the loss of his romance and wants it back no matter what.
As conclusion I think romance attempt2 puts her in a more fortunate position, since he is actually taking better care of her from the start.
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23 eerinmide
August 25, 2016 at 9:09 PM
At this point of the drama, I usually have no words after the episodes. I just squee for hours very loudly to myself and then spend the four hours not being able to sleep- instead, rereading comments, rewatching scenes, rereading recaps, screenshotting, more squees, making kissy faces at LJS and pitying SoBong.
Oh, and I also stopped writing my novel. I need to go back and correct some things, if my lead character comes to life, I would be dead in a second.
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24 erratic
August 25, 2016 at 9:10 PM
Who deleted the door for Kang Chul to get out? Who deleted the blood on his shirt? O.o Was it all Yeon Joo?
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erratic
August 25, 2016 at 9:11 PM
I meant redrew the door and deleted it for Chul to get out.
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Annika
August 25, 2016 at 9:15 PM
I think it's the "you can't see on the outside but applicable on the inside" thing. You can't enter but you can go out if you're inside like Chul. Which means no one will ever know there's a room there unless Yeon Joo draws it again.
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erratic
August 25, 2016 at 9:17 PM
That makes sense, sort of. What about his shirt? It suddenly became pristine again.
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:20 PM
Because style trumps basic necessities. #chaebol101
erratic
August 25, 2016 at 9:24 PM
Because style defies logic, Yoyo? XD
siesta
August 25, 2016 at 9:29 PM
yeah unless YJ drew a magical white marker in those supplies there's no sense his shirt could be that pristine again- bloodstains are notoriously a bitch to clean
how long was he in that room anyway,since he came out fully healed. what about food? man cannot subsist on air alone!
rlg07
August 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM
There was a shot of it draped over a chair. Maybe when he was well enough, he washed it in the bathroom sink and ironed it? That might be a bit much for a rich penthouse boy who can only cook ramyeon--but then again, he does love clothes, so...
rlg07
August 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM
Or maybe...she drew him a new shirt, too. Since she knows he does like nice, clean clothes. I mean, she gave him a walled door and changed the color and plate on his car, gave him medicine and a note...surely it wouldn't be hard to add in a clean shirt that wouldn't be germy?
Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:35 PM
@erratic
Style defies logic, common sense and even meta.
celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:40 PM
I just love how we're so invested even in the tiniest thing in this drama like KC's white shirt!
beanie
August 25, 2016 at 10:36 PM
I think she drew him a new shirt -- there was a shot of it draped over a chair before he put it on. He can't very well leave his room wearing a shirt soaked in blood if he's trying to lie low... it would draw too much attention.
As for food -- yeah, no idea. I'm guessing he spent a few days resting and then left the hotel the minute he could stand. It looks like he spent most of the month at his family's house, not so much the apartment, since he said he spent the month rereading the manwha.
Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:10 PM
Indeed, since there is no hole on the clean shirt, YJ must have drawn a new shirt with all the other stuff.
Ratchet&Clank
August 30, 2016 at 8:28 AM
Either Kang Chul washed the shirt and wore it again, and the hole is just covered by his coat. Or Yeon Joo drew him the shirt, if she did that's just mad props to her. She's super impressive for a kdrama heroine!
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:17 PM
Yes, my question too! I hope someone can explain or shed light on this. My brain is so fried right now. haha
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Lulu
August 26, 2016 at 12:03 AM
Someone answered. Hotel mini bar
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Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 9:16 PM
YJ basically defined that door to appear as a wall from outside when staying close but that door is still a door so when KC opens it from inside, it appears as a normal door.
I just assume KC washed the shirt himself LOL
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michykdrama
August 25, 2016 at 9:20 PM
Washed maybe. But ironed and magically sewed up the bullet hole? Lol.
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Alessar
August 26, 2016 at 6:41 AM
I assume she erased the bloodstain and tear as well.
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:39 PM
Ok this makes sense. Thanks!
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:16 PM
Technically, it was just the front door that was concealed. So opening the door from the inside of the room didn't have any effect. Shrodinger's cat theory reappears!! Hot damn.
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:20 PM
this couple should get a cat . . .
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ina
August 26, 2016 at 1:02 AM
Yeah. The quietly judging type...
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michykdrama
August 25, 2016 at 9:19 PM
I'm starting to think the manhwa world is a bit sentient in itself- and so maybe stuff like this happens because KC was still the main character at that point and so there are certain allowances made, a bit like a cheat code for him. But yeah, that bit was a bit confusing. Especially since no one would be turning on the tablet, especially not Su Bong, who is the only one other than YJ capable of drawing.
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Valentina
August 25, 2016 at 9:20 PM
In terms of the door, it was only hidden on one side, but on the other side, he still had access to the door, so when he opened it, he got out. When he left, it disappeared again. Idk about the shirt tho.
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shelly
August 26, 2016 at 3:28 AM
the door is a left-over, like the memory of the car. the police saw a white car and the new license plate, KC remembered the dark car and the original license. the door on one side was inexistent, but to KC inside, there was a door and it led outside. and he already had some suspicions on the way his world really is - because the gun appeared in his hand out of the blue. i guess it's all power of disbelief now. if he sees a door, he can go through it.
road-runner power :D
the shirt is something else. i guess she may have tried to make the wound as unimportant as possible and drew something with lots less blood or cleaned the shirt after she cleaned the blood on the hallway (because when the police went by and he was doctoring himself, the shirt was still a mess.)
i rather don't think a writer who knows so much about plot holes would leave out an explanation about that, lol. she'd be worried about new-face coming to get her face next :D
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25 nurii
August 25, 2016 at 9:12 PM
I love that Seok-beom playing the reliable character here and the scaredy cat in Bring It on Ghost. By the time Soo-Bong hugs him, I cried, how about In-Rang? hehe
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Lord Cobol
August 25, 2016 at 9:37 PM
For a minute, watching Su-bong & Seok-bum together I thought I was watching Dumb & Dumber from Bring It On Ghost. Oh wait, I was watching one of them. Which one is Dumber?
And how does one actor find time to appear in two shows? Does it involve alternate universes where time flows differently?
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:58 PM
W- comedy world
starred Soo Bong, Seok Beom and So Hee (the triple S)
romantic comedy when a character (so hot) from a webtoon came to the real life and got lost...
will she live forever in the real world?
should she back to the webtoon?
now it's up to these 2 guys to help her find her own story,
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Rachela
August 26, 2016 at 6:37 AM
omg i would pay 10 million dollars for this to be a thing.
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Alessar
August 26, 2016 at 6:44 AM
Kim Seul Gi simultaneously was on THREE shows once:
second lead in Discovery of Romance,
best friend/roommate of the female lead in Surplus Princess,
brief appearances as a mental patient in Kill Me Heal Me.
With the live shoot system, the final episodes of many shows are filmed the day before but earlier episodes are not usually that tight; and if an actor only has specific scenes they don't typically have to be on set. Plus I think Korean primetime actors work like US soap actors do - they get the script and immediately memorize it, they do quick takes and keep the no-goods down.
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Ren
August 25, 2016 at 10:01 PM
I lol at the fact that out of all the people in the know Soo-Bong is the only one who hasn't been sucked into the webtoon. It's like all the pain without any of the fun. All he gets is faceless men, shootings and a constantly disappearing Yeon-joo, at least let him meet So-hee to make up for it.
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 10:11 PM
he even almost gives up on drawing,
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siesta
August 25, 2016 at 10:54 PM
soo bong should make his own spinoff manhwa "The 50 Ways It Sucks To Be Me."
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Ren
August 26, 2016 at 12:44 AM
1. Terrible Bosses
Sometimes your boss is someone who just insists that you draw manhwa characters where their eyes take up half their face. Another time your boss could ask you to buy snacks and when you come back they're missing their face entirely. It's just the luck of the draw.
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namedx
August 26, 2016 at 3:46 AM
2. Life threatening situations
In such cases, you have no other choice but to wail like a baby, screaming "omooooonnnnnniiiiiii" in the hope they'll listen. If that fails, cling onto a random stranger whom you've just met, and interlock your fingers. Yes, maybe a love gesture, but desperate times calls for desperate measures. If all else fails, merely slide to the floor and pass out until you come back to your senses. *rub the eyes* for added effect.
LOL this sounds more like a Su-Bong survival guide.
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Yoyo
August 26, 2016 at 8:08 AM
1 word: SCREAM
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26 shl71
August 25, 2016 at 9:12 PM
Ok, now I'm worried that this means Yeon-joo will be pitted against her Dad, since she's the one that helps Kang Chul (resetting, sending medication etc), while Dad is at the beck and call of the killer (guns, bullets, doors etc). Will they be fighting over control of the tablet? I suspect the tablet will be destroyed at some point in the drama . . .
I am also happy as a clam that Yeon-joo took action. I know I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I think her heartbreak is appropriate (and Han Hyo-joo acts it well), but I really want her and Kang Chul to work together to sort things out. Together.
Is the webtoon sentient? Does it perhaps sense that Yeon-joo is the only way for its 'going to pots' storyline to be rectified, which is why she keeps getting sucked in? I've always been curious as to how the episodes (post-Kang Chul's moment of self-awareness) get updated and uploaded without any human agency. . .
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shl71
August 25, 2016 at 9:13 PM
Oh, my bad - thank you GirlFriday for the quick recap!
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Lord Cobol - so who needs Skynet
August 25, 2016 at 9:39 PM
Maybe the tablet is in charge?
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27 JenJen
August 25, 2016 at 9:12 PM
With YeonJoo's Dad being incapacitated, I somehow feel that YeonJoo and Kang Chul need to somehow give New-Face a new reason for existence in order to reach the happy ending. Now the trick is how to reason with someone who wants to kill kill kill.
Hopefully SeokBum stays safe through this ordeal D:
Also, the feelz (all the feels~~) this week have been so delicious. Can't wait for next week
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28 michykdrama
August 25, 2016 at 9:12 PM
This was a less intense episode to me, but still great!
I actually really like the fact that the villain has "taken over" Dad because it firstly increases the stakes and also gives YJ another reason to want to help save the manhwa world and stop the baddy, other than just True Love. And at some point she will be forced to have to turn on the tablet again, and hopefully this time Dad will still be locked up and maybe YJ can be better prepared!
So is my understanding now correct:
Now that New Face killer is a proper manhwa character he is somewhat limited to the manhwa world except via the Tablet, unlikely previously when he could shuttle across both worlds at will.
KC is no longer the main character like GF said and so it isn't him who influences how the manhwa world functions (like how time progresses) or him who can pull YJ in and out of the Manhwa. Does this mean no more surprise kisses? *boo*
YJ can still appear and disappear in and out of the manhwa without the Tablet. She is currently the only one who can do that, correct? So in a sense, she not only Knows All, she can also draw and manipulate the manhwa world and she can pop in and out, though not entirely at will. So she is getting more powerful! Good!
Only downside is that she needs to think of a new strategy to get out of the manhwa- kissing Assemblyman ain't quite going to do it. Lol!
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:18 PM
Well, that makes assembly man a main character now.
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rlg07
August 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM
Technically, Kang Chul has some portal-crossing powers, too. Yes, he travels through the tablet. But he doesn't get summoned from the other side--it's like he is the one who pulls up the portal himself. There are a few times where he breaks the 4th wall, and it usually happens around the times when he's aware that there is something on the other side. There were the early times where OSM was freaking out because he'd draw KC and then KC would turn and LOOK at him. There was the truck scene, where he stopped what was happening, then looked up at the sky and demanded, "Who are you?" There was the end of episode 10, after YJ disappeared and he's staring at his hand--and then he looks straight into the camera. And then there's the moment just before he walks through the door/solid wall where he also looks straight at the camera. Newface Killer can go through the tablet--but he can't call it up it himself.
It seems like Kang Chul, on the other hand, CAN. So I have a little hope for the boy. :)
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rasonic
August 25, 2016 at 9:46 PM
I'm not sure about who can pull her into their world because the first time she got pulled in during the emergency, no one in that world knew her anymore because she had changed everything to have never happened before. It wasn't until after the first time she was there that everyone knew who she was, correct? And surprising KC worked last episode to leave the manhwa world... So can it not work now? That's one of my main questions.
I also wonder how they figure out how to get out of the manhwa world because the preview shows them leaving it. So I wonder if it randomly pops up like the last time to KC or they somehow figure out how to do it themselves.
Those are my thoughts, what do you think?
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paramount
August 25, 2016 at 10:54 PM
The killer knew her in that world. When he asked her "how did you get out?!" It made me believe new-face was the one who pulled yeon joo into the manhwa world on purpose so she couldn't mess with his plans.
As for the preview, I'm curious about that also! Last time it was because kang chul realized his world wasn't real but now he already knows that again? Maybe yeon joo explains things further & after it becomes clear to him, then it appears (like last time things became clear to him as he was talking to ahjusshi on the phone).
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rasonic
August 26, 2016 at 6:37 AM
Ohh you're right! I had forgotten that the killer's memory was never reset. So someone did know who she was.... I wonder why he was thinking about her during the emergency because he showed up at the studio broadcast to find KC, not YJ.
And about the portal, maybe YJ confirms like you said to KC that this is a manhwa world. Because up to this point he has read the manhwa book but maybe never actually believed it to be true? But now YJ is going to confirm it!
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mary
August 26, 2016 at 7:20 AM
*siding with paramount*
The way New-Face reacted violently after knowing that Yeon-joo is back in real world makes me think HE pulled her in to make sure she doesn't mess with his plans to take control over everything.
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rasonic
August 26, 2016 at 7:03 PM
I think you're probably right! That would definitely fit his character too.
June
August 27, 2016 at 10:28 AM
Yes mary! That were my thoughts too :)
Yeon Joo was pulled in my new face coz he was surprised she was back in real world. He thought she would have no means to get back since she drew reset and kang chul and her no longer have relationship.
Lulu
August 26, 2016 at 12:21 AM
I'll give it a try
Why she got brought back the first time after the reset?
Cause KC still had lingering memories of her, dreamed about her and subconsciously brought her back (but it faded in time, until when he need a doctor suddenly and thought of her first)
How they got out and into the real world?
1) KC opened a porter when he broke the 4th wall last time by relishing the truth of his existence. But even when he read the manga, he still was not sure (thinking him self maybe going craz) until YJ Confirms his theory and once again the forth wall breaks and the portal opens again.
2) or KC and YJ can summon at will the portal
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rasonic
August 26, 2016 at 6:40 AM
Didn't YJ say that KC had completely forgotten about her though before the accident happened? Maybe he hadn't completely forgotten, but it took something big like the emergency for his now very small subconscious thoughts about her to pull her in!
I think your first idea is more plausible than the second. Although the second idea would be way cool! Because then they'll have more power to fight back against the killer and assemblyman! Let's hope! Lol
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shelly
August 26, 2016 at 3:38 AM
but the 34th volume of W still exists... so the events in it DID happen. even if no one but YJ and oh, the whole outside world know about them.
it's only those inside who are clueless, and now they also know - the killer and KC at least - so the wall between worlds is fragile again.
the reset didn't work... but the consequences of changing character's stories still appear to be the same. the first time around KC gave up YJ, i think this time he'll have to give up the manwha.
maybe he'll take over someone in the real world and re-incarnate into a real existence... though i hope some better twist will come to allow them to be together. and omg. not an open-ending :(
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rasonic
August 26, 2016 at 6:42 AM
I didn't even think about the book! And also, when she got pulled in, the book got pulled in too so maybe that made the events that happened even more real? But yeah, the book being real is something I definitely didn't consider!
I sure hope we don't get an open ending as well! I want this resolved well so we all leave happy! Lol
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Elle
August 25, 2016 at 11:51 PM
I don't think the Killer was able to travel freely across both worlds though? At least he can't travel without using the tablet. He used the same portal as Chul, which was through the tablet. He was stuck in the real world for the entire duration of Chul and Yeon-joo's "sequel" and was only sent back as part of the reset. So far, only Yeon-joo has been able to travel across worlds without the tablet as her portal, and it's not even voluntary.
Of course, teleporting within one world is another matter.
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michykdrama
August 26, 2016 at 4:15 AM
oh good point...
ok so the no face killer couldn't travel without the tablet, but he could communicate with people in the manhwa- remember how he called and threatened KC in the manhwa when he was in the real world...
the teleporting still sucks though.... so unfair he can still do that... how do you kill someone who can teleport??
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Elle
August 26, 2016 at 6:43 AM
Yeah it was scary. I think I'll have to rewatch that bit because he was in Dad's office for a while. He must have been speaking/thinking/calling out to Chul while standing in front of the tablet.
It depends though if his powers were limited by becoming a physical entity instead of a plot device Dad summons to drive the story forward/kill Chul. Perhaps he has become more vulnerable by becoming more solid.
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29 gaeinalee
August 25, 2016 at 9:13 PM
It used to KC only who could drawn her into his world, but now others too? Gahh... KC action to ensure her safety before the reset (dream chapter) just flew out of the window. Now both of them are the wanted persons.
Thanks for the recap, GF!
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30 Archer
August 25, 2016 at 9:13 PM
If Kang Chul starts to disappear because he is irrelevant to the story, why are his two friends still there though? And, I am not surprised that they can take things between two worlds, didn't Kang Chul take his gun from his world to shoot OYJ's dad? And, also OYJ's name card and pen were with her when she saved his life on the earlier episode.
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:43 PM
the friend is there because they aren't getting replaced,
before So-hee get replaced by Yeon Joo that makes her "seen trough",
now Kang Chul's position get replaced by the assemblyman
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rlg07
August 26, 2016 at 6:18 AM
YJ asks what is wrong with KC--why he isn't "protagging," basically (the protagonist DOES stuff--he fights challenges and looks for solutions). Did you notice the t-shirt he was wearing when he was hiding out and watching TV and getting drunk? I'm pretty sure it said My Will is Gone. So later he finds the comic and has a reason to stick around--he wants to know if it's all true. But for the main plotline--he's given it up. Hopefully now that our girl and guy are on the same page again, he'll get his strong will back!
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June
August 27, 2016 at 10:40 AM
I thought So Hee started to disappear previously because she wanted to get herself out of Kang Chul's life by quitting her job after his marriage to Yeon Joo. Her hand only started flickering after she passed the resignation letter to Do Yeon. Because her character scope is Kang Chul personal assistant and best friend. So if she wants to stop doing that she will lose her prupose of existence.
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Indigo
August 26, 2016 at 12:28 AM
I don't think he's disappearing because he's irrelevant but because he's in hiding. By hiding he's not a part of an active story line and is also not fulfilling his original purpose as the hero of the story. I think it's also why the time skipped...no active story line featuring Kang Chul.
The other characters are as yet unaffected because Chul is still around. Since their existence revolves around him they'll continue to exist until he no longer does, they become self-aware or they're killed, whichever comes first.
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Cipher
August 26, 2016 at 1:08 PM
It's all about the predetermined purpose.
The bodyguard is still helping KC so his purpose as the right hand man to KC is not lost.
SH is stll obsessed over KC and harbor the conviction they are meant to be together. So her purpose is still intact.
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31 sweetyo0on
August 25, 2016 at 9:13 PM
When I watched the episode for the first time, I didn't know how I felt about the ending. It just felt like a cop out for KangChul to "regain" all his memories by reading the manhwa. I agree I'm happy that he didn't regain all his memories through the "power of love" buut this too felt like a letdown. I wanted to see him go through the actions, actually fall in love with Yeonjoo again but now, he knows how he felt and how he's suppose to feel (though I guess he doesn't quite love her yet) - that was a bit disappointing. But the JB's comment of how he didn't react in despair but reacted with hope and courage to the love story of KangChul and YeonJoo - gaaah, I'm a sucker for these two. How could I stay disappointed? Haha
Also, can someone help me? lol. I can't explain - put into words - why I like LeeJongSuk so much. I mean it goes beyond his good looks, good choice of projects, tall height, etc (lol) - but the latter half of this episode when he picks up YeonJoo and they go on their "date" - the way he speaks, his mannerisms - they just make my heart flutter. It's so calm, collected, but packed with emotions. I never feel like he's overreacting or under-acting (if that is a word lol) - or for that matter - acting. He just seems to be KangChul, just the same way he was his character in Pinocchio and IHYV. Ugh - I don't know if I'm explaining this properly lol. Someone help! Put my feelings into words - or else I'm the one going to go crajeeeee.
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erratic
August 25, 2016 at 9:22 PM
Hmm. So I wasn't the only one who thought that finding out through the manhwa was rather anticlimactic. It was interesting to watch their interaction in the market, though; you think he's aware, but he's totally deadpanning everything. BUt then you have that arm around her and that hand on her side while he was leading Yeon Joo away that bespoke a familiarity that was at odds with their limited acquaintance.
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sweetyo0on
August 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM
It was definitely anti-climatic.
Also because of the use of the comic book, I don't know how much I agree with line of thinking that KangChul will always end up becoming self-aware and discovering that he is a manhwa character - because he didn't. He didn't assume anything even when a gun popped out of nowhere into his hand, when the director was shot in the hospital, when the medicine popped out of nowhere. He wasn't aware like he was before.
Which is why their reunion (though it's a bit early to call it a reunion since he technically still doesn't remember her - though I guess at this point - he never will?) doesn't feel organic. I wasn't really overwhelmed with any emotion when he asked her if the husband was him. Cause what's the point of establishing that he is the husband (something that we already know as the audience) when he doesn't feel the same emotions he once did for Yeonjoo (though once again, it's only a matter of time before he does)
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Sun
August 25, 2016 at 11:27 PM
I think he did became suspicious when so many unexplainable things are happening to him, because he mentioned that "a person go crazy when things keep happening without context". He definitely noticed that something is off, just that he had not yet reach at the conclusion that his world is a manhwa story.
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sweetyo0on
August 25, 2016 at 9:24 PM
Whoops! Made the same mistake as a comment above me. I meant GF's comment. (I just came from Moonlight with is JB - which is also amazing in case anyone needs another series in between the W episodes - though it's only two episodes in lol)
Sorry >.<
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:35 PM
I think it because he changes,
he isn't the kangchul we used to know, (someone that I used to know - - - - lalalala)
just like how he knew yeon joo,
for us, he feels like imitating kang chul, he knew what and how kang chul do every thing but not the feeling,
feeling come from memory, it can't just be created out of information, that's why some people can resonate to the same thing and some not, some people experience the same situation but people who don't may not feel the same way,
that's how I think about the scene,
basically what yeon joo feels when he acted nice, insincere without mening to hurt,
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:35 PM
edit : insincere without meaning to hurt,
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sweetyo0on
August 25, 2016 at 9:43 PM
I completely agree. The KangChul we saw today, it wasn't the KangChul that the writer created. It was one of defeat which is why - just like you said - everything he went through just felt like he was going through the motions. He's just a shell. Because that's basically what KangChul has become by taking away his memories of his period of enlightenment, romance with YeonJoo, and struggle and ultimate victory towards free will. He's become a reactionary agent - it almost feels like he's waiting for YeonJoo to give him the answers too - he was never like that before. He needed YeonJoo to confirm his theories but he was always aware. Which is why I thought it was brilliant to have him start disappearing. Self-awareness is key to his survival and ultimately, his happy ending.
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erratic
August 25, 2016 at 11:24 PM
Maybe it was because of the turn of events, and the fact that he's got nothing at his disposal: no money, no WBN, no friends. He's a fugitive, so whatever observations or hunches he arrives at, he can't exactly investigate without calling attention to himself. IN the end, he could only wait for Yeon Joo.
I liked his question about what happens to Kang Chul and Oh Yeon Joo next, though.
lunaticandra
August 25, 2016 at 10:25 PM
But it is shown that kang chul somehow can catch the glimpse of his dream. When he flipped the book and stop at the drowning scene, he somehow remember. Just a glimpse, but even though it will not come as a memory at least he still have access to things that happened in his dream. To his past feeling. Just my selfish desire though...
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Zoe
August 26, 2016 at 1:58 AM
His character changed drastically the moment bad guy/ no face/dad shot everyone in tv studio. Then next day his hair style changed too. Like mentioned he is not same person we knew. I guess b/c he is no longer a revelant character? No face in control now? The abrupt hair style and personality change is still very confusing. Even after reset he still acted and appeared the same when she kept bumping into him. Not until no face took control did his personal apearence change.
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:53 PM
What I got from that scene of him having read the comic book is not really "regaining" his memory because technically he has no memory to begin with since it was wiped out through a dream. It's not amnesia. That's just my take though.
"I wanted to see him go through the actions, actually fall in love with Yeonjoo again but now, he knows how he felt and how he’s suppose to feel"
I feel you which is part of the reason why I was caught off guard with the reveal in the end. I was hoping for him to go through falling in love completely without knowledge whatsoever of their past and then have those revealed later.
Nonetheless, I hope we learn more about how this knowledge of the comic book and their past will factor in to KC's future actions.
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32 lunaticandra
August 25, 2016 at 9:14 PM
she will... if only a creepy pair of hands in leather glove didn't suddenly emerge out of the screen and choke her in the throat..
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33 aniii
August 25, 2016 at 9:16 PM
I haven't been this invested in a show in quite some time. At the end, I was flailing my hands around and muttering, "Kiss her! Kiss her!" It's going to be a very long wait until next Wednesday. *dies*
A total side note, I love Seok-bum's character and would be happy seeing more of him. I'm rooting for him to step up his game as a supporting character and get more involved. ^^
Thank you for the re-caps! I was initially only reading the first few episodes while I was in Korea this summer and super busy, but the re-caps convinced me to watch the show. <3 <3
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34 loveblossom
August 25, 2016 at 9:17 PM
It's so bittersweet seeing Kang Chul doing the homework things for Yeon Joo when he is still not the same as before. It's torture. He knows a bit more info, but he's not quite there yet. Lol
And is the manhwa continually coming out with new volumes of the things happening in the the manhwa world? I feel like only we (the RL viewers), Yeon Joo, Su Bong, and Dad know what is going on currently. I don't think Crazy Dog or the rest of the public in the drama are aware.
I really enjoyed the emotions I felt while I was watching this week's episodes. They made me feel deeper for the relationship between KC & YJ.
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 9:57 PM
And he is not yet even in love with her yet. We're kind of back to doing tasks to check off in a list.
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35 TourmalineMillie
August 25, 2016 at 9:18 PM
Legit question: I wonder what the expectations of the romance in this drama are. Like what exactly does KC have to do or how does he have to act for his feelings to come across stronger.
In the first timeline, YJ literally became his reason for existence. He was about ready to give up on life and the only reason he kept going was that he felt he owed her for saving his life. Can we really say though that the feelings he had for her that grew out of his gratitude were not "right" in some way?
People were saying that they were happy about the reset because the romance before the reset did not feel exactly right. However, with this turn of events, aren't we exactly where we started, with KC's feelings for YJ emerging out of a feeling of indebtedness?
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lunaticandra
August 27, 2016 at 8:21 PM
Indebted or not, it is clear that chul is in love with yeon joo. He just doesn't say it out loud. Yeon joo that dragged into the river is because kang chul's fear for not seeing her anymore. That happen in the prison too, when she is disappear and reappear. The horror in his face, scared over her safety is a huge sign on how much he loves her. And yeon joo knows this too. The debt is only their excuse to be together.
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36 blueribbon
August 25, 2016 at 9:19 PM
Man I wish they hadn't preempted this show because the change in pace is very noticeable. I can't believe I am writing this but if we get only one episode next week then get back on track I wouldn't even mind.
I truly enjoy YJ's character she knows how to act even in scary situations, she is not panicking like SB. Poor guy I love him and his reactions XD. I truly want to know why Chul is disappearing? Is YJ slowly becoming the main character and focus point on the manwha? Is this why Chul is starting to disappear?
Thanks for the recap girlfriday!! :)
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37 halfmoon
August 25, 2016 at 9:20 PM
1. So I think YJ deleted the door from the outside of the room. By KC could still see it from the inside. That's probably why he could get out through the door .
2. I didn't understand the need for the clock. Was it to wake KC up so he could treat his wound ?
3. Did KC wash his shirt ? It wasn't stained with blood anymore.
4. How come the time skipped in the W world during this episode, but not when YJ spent several days waiting at the W hospital ?
5. About the comic book that YJ brought with her to the W world : So did we get a flashback within a flashback within a flashback within a flashback ? I couldn't keep track how far we went. And yet, the story made sense !
6. So KC remember a little of his past story/ dream , right ? Like the kiss on the roof top, him drowning...
Five more episodes, folks... Five more :(
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michykdrama
August 25, 2016 at 9:30 PM
2. I thought the clock was put to alarm to attract KC attention to the new medicine. After all, the lights were off and he may not notice the change, not to mention that he wouldn't be expecting it. Which was very clever on YJ's part.
3. I can't explain how he got rid of the bullet hole! I mean the bullet went through his shirt and then hit him right. Lol.
4. Time in the manhwa isn't controlled by YJ's actions, it's based on what is happening to the main character- previously KC and now Assembly man. So maybe nothing much was happening with the Assembly man since KC wasn't able to be found.
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:38 PM
6. I don't think he remembers, he just knows it happens based on the story,
like reading a history book, we knew but we don't really feeling it like it is our life
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rasonic
August 25, 2016 at 9:48 PM
What was confusing to me was they showed some flashbacks as KC was reading the manhwa book. Was that just for our sake or was KC actually having flashbacks of his former memories that had been hidden from him?
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celine
August 25, 2016 at 10:01 PM
I think it's for the viewers. I'd expect a much stronger reaction from KC if he indeed remembered all those that happened to him in the past/drama. However, here, he's calm and serious. Like what @Sancheezy said, he read a story that happened to have his and YJ's name. Maybe more will be explained in ep 12...
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rasonic
August 25, 2016 at 10:06 PM
Oh yes those are good points! I didn't think about that necessarily. I agree :) can't wait for episode 12!!
Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 10:07 PM
I think he also got several memory fragments to confirm that the scene in volume 34 had happened,
but the webtoon story (printed version) isn't revealing all the scene or all the experience he had at the time, so there is a gap in the understanding the story line,
like "what is OYJ said,?
why Kang Chul react like that to her,"
so he waits for her to confirm and completed the story,
if he remembers it all, I think he must have hugged her at least ...
like a Deja Vu , a small one
that's my understanding ^^
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rasonic
August 25, 2016 at 10:29 PM
Ohhh that makes sense! I agree. He must be trying to fill in the gaps though or at least he wants to
celine
August 25, 2016 at 10:00 PM
My thoughts exactly. That's how I understood the scene and not him "regaining" his memory because it's not amnesia in the first place.
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Yoyo
August 25, 2016 at 9:50 PM
5. Yeon Joo can bring anything that she has on with her each time she gets pulled into the manwha. And the flashback didn't take you that far, it was just from the time that a code black alarm went off in the manwha and how the book crossed over along with her.
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Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 10:02 PM
5. About the comic book that YJ brought with her to the W world : So did we get a flashback within a flashback within a flashback within a flashback ? I couldn’t keep track how far we went. And yet, the story made sense !
YES. They indeed did a flashback-ception, on purpose, I believe.
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sooha
August 26, 2016 at 1:53 AM
3. Did KC wash his shirt ? It wasn’t stained with blood anymore.
It is possible since chul was heal and can move then he wash his shirt because he doesn't want get attention from anyone who see bloods on his shirt. But I don't see bullet hole on it also, so I guess that is a flaw.
4. How come the time skipped in the W world during this episode, but not when YJ spent several days waiting at the W hospital ?
During that time the main char is chul and the story is around about him but then the main char change to Assembly man and no face and I agree with Michykdrama, nothing happen because he can't find chul
6. So KC remember a little of his past story/ dream , right ? Like the kiss on the roof top, him drowning…
It is a dream and sometime we can recall our dream. While chul reading the manhwa he recall kissing her, reading a book in bed, he drowning but not really sure until he confirm it with oh yoon jo.
If you see preview eps 12, chul and yoon jo together walking through the 'glass window'. So it means after he got the confirmation from yoon jo, his self awareness is come back.
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38 Jeje
August 25, 2016 at 9:24 PM
The story starts to repeat itself. I'm afraid that Kangchul will jump into the water again, this time wearing his wedding ring. Then he went back in time to be the body Yeon joo saw previously at the morgue. For me this drama ends when it is reset as Kangchul's dream. My invested feelings were disrupted and the story seems wasted and goes in loop after loop. I now just give up watching it, just read recaps. It is now very likely that the ring theory is true. And if so I know I will never see anything that has this writer in it again.
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39 nchoe
August 25, 2016 at 9:25 PM
I found him being suspicious too. But I thought it's gonna be like: "Oh... deep down in his heart he still remembers." and then he'd gradually gain his memories.
Turned out he read the comic. LOL.
I was freaked out for a moment when KC shown that copy of Manhwa. I thought somehow real world and W world had switched, so people in W world read real world Manhwa with YJ as the main protagonist instead.
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40 ybell
August 25, 2016 at 9:25 PM
Can we consider this episode as 2) a romantic trip to the countryside; plus( 3) simple romance in everyday life?
Then it means next episode we willget #4?
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erratic
August 25, 2016 at 9:27 PM
Still five episodes left with that hope in mind, girl. Lol.
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Lord Cobol
August 25, 2016 at 10:34 PM
No, I'm afraid they're saving #4 for episode 17. Available for sale exclusively in another universe.
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erratic
August 25, 2016 at 11:28 PM
Please say it isn't so.
Please say they'd have that available on pay-per-view.
Lol.
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41 camillecee
August 25, 2016 at 9:25 PM
I keep turning my head away when they zoom in Dad's face! (or lack thereof) It's so scary!!!
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42 loveblossom
August 25, 2016 at 9:26 PM
I adore Su Bong so much. He gave me some good, much needed laughs during this episode. <3
I hope he helps Yeon Joo fight against the villain more though. And I want him to meet So Hee too~ Hehe
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43 Gaelicmaiden
August 25, 2016 at 9:30 PM
Unless something drastic happens, I think it's safe to say Yeon Joo is one of my all time favorite Kdrama female leads. Maybe it's because she's smart and resourceful in a way I find very realistic. Take her first seeing of No-Face Dad: can't really blame her for running screaming. But after that initial shock, she pulls herself together, and plans her next move. No sitting around wailing and fretting for this girl. There's work to be done!
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44 Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM
'Do-yoon is alarmed when he overhears the cops reporting that they’ve found Chul on a traffic camera and are close to finding him.'
The address mentioned here is actually LJS's hometown. I cracked up right there.
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Cipher
August 25, 2016 at 11:40 PM
Anyone notice the phrase "because I saw it""where?" is exactly the same dialogue from the prison scene in episode 4 with KC and YJ's places reversed this time.
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45 blueribbon
August 25, 2016 at 9:34 PM
I also hope the production company prints a few copies of the "Manhwa" PLEASE I NEED A COPY!!!! T-T
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Qu3in
August 25, 2016 at 10:51 PM
Maybe we should write a petition or collect 10000 signs from W fans for the prod company. ?
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sooyeon
August 26, 2016 at 2:54 AM
I'm also hoping to get my hands on the set of manhwa!! Even it's 40 books of it and I can only read 50% of Korean. LOL.
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46 Mitha
August 25, 2016 at 9:37 PM
I know I shouldn't but I laugh way too hard when Seok Beom ask where is Yeon Jo and Su Bong realized that she's disappeared again.. poor Su Bong.. He's really deserve So Hee.. hahahah
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Kestrel
August 25, 2016 at 9:51 PM
That would be the ultimate swag...
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47 sweetsour
August 25, 2016 at 9:38 PM
Never before have I started typing mini-essays because of a drama lol. So here’s my mini-essay for today’s episode.
1. KC now knows! Finally! However I felt for him this episode, because instead of looking sad he simply looked exhausted and just done with everything. I think this is why he saw his hand disappearing, because he is not fighting back or using any of his will-power/free-agency and the force that gives him. He was simply going through the motions, and giving in to whatever fate awaited him. It seems that the only thing that kept him going on was the need to find YJ to get some answers from her, after he read that comic. However the good news is that it looks like KC will get his fighting spirit back next episode!
2. I also loved YJ once again for her resourcefulness, despite her emotional state. She is not able to change anything drastic in the W world or the characters, but she was smart enough to try and edit the small things, like adding those medical tools and medicines to the table besides KC. She also didn’t miss the small detail of adding an alarm. She also erased the door, which KC later opened once again to get out after he had healed, before it went back to being a wall. Etc.
3. KC actually performing that operation on himself, is a testament to how strong he can be. However I am sure that he at least had given himself semi-anesthesia or else how could he bear the pain?
4. I really liked how KC did a few romantic things for YJ, though they were very simple. They did number 2 on the list of romantic options KC had given YJ this episode, taking a trip to the country side, even though the context was sad.
5. However I hope that there will be no more resets, since we saw how that ends up only spinning the W world more out of control and the consequences remain while the events end up being more horrifying. The only solution I see is KC taking down the villain. Also I want the conflict to be resolved, and the last thing I want is for this drama to get repetitive (since it has been so good so far). This time the conflict should be faced head-on and resolved, hopefully with KC’s free-will/force and YJ’s support, it will be achieved.
6. The ending I envision for this drama is KC and YJ getting their happy ending. Then we see them smiling and kissing, her in white and him in a tux, and their picture gets taken; while in voice-over they both say or one of them says: “as you write your own life story, don’t give up on that happy ending. After all, happy endings are worth fighting for”. Then the camera slowly zooms out as the picture becomes a drawing, and we see a book closing on an elegant table. Then we see the back of someone (could be reference to the writer of this drama or a reader/viewer) walking out of the room, while the book remains on the table. But better yet (and I like this scenario a lot more), we see the backs of KC and YJ holding hands and walking out of that room, while the book remains on the table...
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sweetsour
August 25, 2016 at 9:42 PM
The last part got cut out, apparently my essay was too long today? Anyways here is how I envision the ending, posted once again fully:
6. The ending I envision for this drama is KC and YJ getting their happy ending. Then we see them smiling and kissing, her in white and him in a tux, and their picture gets taken; while in voice-over they both say or one of them says: “as you write your own life story, don’t give up on that happy ending. After all, happy endings are worth fighting for”. Then the camera slowly zooms out as the picture becomes a drawing, and we see a book closing on an elegant table. Then we see the back of someone (could be reference to the writer of this drama or a reader/viewer) walking out of the room, while the book remains on the table. But better yet (and I like this scenario a lot more), we see the backs of KC and YJ holding hands and walking out of that room, while the book remains on the table. Then the words “The End” appear, but suddenly get erased to be replaced with the words “The Beginning”.
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:45 PM
I love your ending, ^^
reminds me of the quote
"we can't always have a good start but we can always make a good ending"
we still have the hope!!!
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sweetsour
August 25, 2016 at 9:57 PM
Thanks, this is my dream ending. Let's hope that the actual ending of this drama will be good.
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Qu3in
August 25, 2016 at 10:44 PM
@2. Yes. Totally amaze with YJ quick thinking for erasing the door. And other drawings.
3. I think he do have some anesthesia as we see he use the needle at his wound.
5. Yes. Hopefully no more reset this time. As it is not a good solution for the villain.
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pinkmist02
August 25, 2016 at 11:59 PM
i love this!! almost teared.. ;(
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48 jessanno
August 25, 2016 at 9:41 PM
I knew Kang Chul had to know something! All those comments he kept making...
And so now it is free reign on Oh Yeon-joo in Kang Chuck's world! If anyone can summon her... Yikes! Expecting your hubby but end up in the villain's lair. Not my idea of a fun time.
While, I would have gotten out of that house too, I'm low-key mad Soo-bong left Dad like that. Really though? He could have stopped the frame job.
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Andee
August 25, 2016 at 9:43 PM
Sorry, I know that it's a typo, but I couldn't help but laugh at Kang Chuck. Does he happen to know some English, by any chance? lol
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49 siesta
August 25, 2016 at 9:43 PM
and somewhere else the Truck Of Doom is sitting idly by the wayside, twiddling its gears in boredom, wishing it was born a sedan instead.
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Qu3in
August 25, 2016 at 10:35 PM
Lol
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50 michykdrama
August 25, 2016 at 9:44 PM
I need to ask:
What is New Face Killer's end game?
It can't be to kill KC because that makes no sense- he would have killed KC on the roof top.
He didn't go after KC at first because he had no purpose at first other than just as a plot point, so he stalked Dad until he got a Face and became a legitimate character. But then? What does he want? KC to suffer? Is that what makes him tick?
I understand Assemblyman's motivations (gain presidency), but to me New Face to me is still a plot point (to make KC suffer for no real good reason) and a poorly written character, even with a Face!
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Sancheezy
August 25, 2016 at 9:48 PM
when he was a killer---> to kill Kang Chul
after gain identity ----> don't want to die
Kang Chul end goal is to finish him but he doesn't want to die ( he just gains his freedom to live) so it better to kill Kang Chul 1st,
quite the same logic the dad applied,
_destroy it before it destroyed you_
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michykdrama
August 25, 2016 at 9:58 PM
ah yes! I forgot for a moment that they wanted to kill him... yes so he is trying to survive by going after and ruining KC. ok that makes sense.
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rasonic
August 25, 2016 at 9:50 PM
Maybe his end game is to get KC to disappear from the manhwa by making him obsolete? Taking over his story and becoming the main character--thus gaining more power for himself?
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erratic
August 25, 2016 at 11:32 PM
I don't think No-Face means for Kang Chul to disappear. Where would the fun in his life be, then, with his raison d'etre gone?
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rasonic
August 26, 2016 at 6:44 AM
Good point. I didn't think about it that way. I had thought that maybe the killer had become so powerful at this point that he was maybe writing his own purposes in the story rather than following just the one given him. This drama is so unpredictable!
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