Open Thread #415

1 growingbeautifully

October 2, 2015 at 6:16 AM

Hello Everyone and a Happy Weekend!

Is it October already? Scary.... and Halloween's coming up .... more scary! :)

Cheo Yong 2 - I call this the show with many long dark corridors to build suspense (in me!) and it works too well since I’m a real coward when it comes to the scary bits (quick FFD! LOL). I like the episodic format and it’s nice to see that in this Season 2 Cheo Yong is working with the team, instead of mainly with just Na Young or with just one partner. Na Young continues to be cute. It’s great that she is now able to get out and go anywhere and can help more than in Season 1. It’s also nice to see that Det Lee Jong Hyun, the cop who used to be jealous of Cheo Yong is supporting him, and that everyone accepts that he can see ghosts. I like the way he fights. There’s at least 1 fight scene per episode I feel with him fending off knife wielding villains with pizzaz.

Now that Na Young knows she can sometimes possess Jung Ha Yoon, there seems to be a running gag that Ha Yoon becomes sick like a teenager every now, and then and the guys misunderstand her getting too cozy with them.

On the whole a great show, except that I don’t know how Cheo Yong joins the dots at times and goes off to investigate on his own. It is so fast-paced that holes are easily forgiven. Unfortunately he looked better in Season 1 ie I don’t like his new hairstyle – it looks too much like a helmet.

Episode 5 – was a powerful and solid. I got great feels from Oh Ji Soo’s concern for the children. I was startled to notice that Yeon Jung Hoon played a small cameo role here, and almost was not noticeable under the cap… I wonder why when any newbie would have done. Anyway, I’m in for the long haul although it will probably be only a short one like 10 episodes again?

Gaksital - I thought of watching to get the overall story and see how Joo Won does. However I’m still having difficulty continuing with this. Somehow I don’t find the story as compelling as other shows (maybe I expected too much) and it has somehow too much colour (too vibrant if that’s possible) and the sets seem un-natural. I don’t know why, since some scenes are in the forest… but definitely all the indoor scenes or town scenes just look fake. I will try again LOL!

Midnight Diner - I’m a little sad that this sweet show is over. I loved that they showed us the real singers of the theme song for this show and gave them a story too. I also liked how we got little details of making Korean dishes (very interesting). I am super pleased that I got stage vibes from the earliest episodes and how each episode ending with people leaving looked like actors taking a bow, and then that really happened in the last episode! At least Master took a bow, to my applause! Encore! Encore!

Yong Pal - Dramafever terms this show an action thriller. !!??zzz is it over yet? Heh!

Twenty Again - The best of the current crop that I’m watching. It’s doing everything...

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growingbeautifully

October 2, 2015 at 6:17 AM

Twenty Again - The best of the current crop that I’m watching. It’s doing everything right and has me feeling for our leads, laughing (rather than annoyed) at our ‘villains’ and happily confident in seeing more growth in all the relationships. So much to look forward to.

She Was Pretty - Getting better now. I’m enjoying how the tower of lies keeps growing and is starting to list to one side. I’ve been giving Ha Ri a pass, but hiding the truth is one thing (still bad however) and adding on a deliberate deceit and lie for selfish gain is another (worse by far). Redemption arc needed here! Shin Hyuk’s expressions are to die for, Hye Jin is becoming more confident and calmer and Sung Joon has finally started to eat with the help of a little bromance? :D

D-Day – I like the grand scale look of it and that it appears very realistic. Like many others who are waiting for the subs, I wish I could understand more of it. Hye Sung continues to pitch himself into saving lives, even if there is not much chance of rescuing survivors or finding a place for their wounded, and the interactions and relationships continue to grow. I trust that the side stories will continue with sufficient follow-through and contribute to the overall story and theme of what doctoring should be or the value of human lives.

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Jon G.

October 2, 2015 at 8:02 AM

Twenty Again – The best of the current crop that I’m watching. It’s doing everything right and has me feeling for our leads, laughing (rather than annoyed) at our ‘villains’ and happily confident in seeing more growth in all the relationships. So much to look forward to.

Best show right now, even though the competition is not particularly impressive. It knows what to do with its characters and what story to tell.
The biggest strength for me is the unashamed "optimism". After all the struggles and woobification from the setup, the show doesn't need to jump from one external conflict to the next. Positive interactions among characters are allowed without immediate retaliation from the writer.

She Was Pretty – Getting better now. I’m enjoying how the tower of lies keeps growing and is starting to list to one side. I’ve been giving Ha Ri a pass, but hiding the truth is one thing (still bad however) and adding on a deliberate deceit and lie for selfish gain is another (worse by far). Redemption arc needed here! Shin Hyuk’s expressions are to die for, Hye Jin is becoming more confident and calmer and Sung Joon has finally started to eat with the help of a little bromance?

Yes, Ha-ri is sliding down the slippery slope, but someone has to keep the drama going, because all other characters are occupied with slapstick and other forms of situational comedy.

Hye-jin's portrayal has changed for the better. We no longer see her doing her work, which means we no longer see how she screws up that badly. Instead, we see her screwing up as a person, which is still embarrassing, but in a less unprofessional way.

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growingbeautifully

October 2, 2015 at 9:00 AM

@ Jon G.
Twenty Again
Heheheh! "Positive interactions among characters are allowed without immediate retaliation from the writer." - you are expecting the writer to throw a few spanners into the works then? It's been going smoothly for No Ra for 2 episodes, so it's time to kick conflict up a notch?

Yes, just having Hyun Suk in ignorance of the real condition of No Ra's marriage for long enough has been quite a conflict builder-upper, so that there did not seem to be the need of much more. I'm actually looking forward as much to Woo Chul's inept efforts to manipulate matters into 'have cake and eat it' territory as to No Ra's increasing confidence and Hyun Suks increasing discomfort. Sadistic, I know. :)

She Was Pretty
"Yes, Ha-ri is sliding down the slippery slope, but someone has to keep the drama going, because all other characters are occupied with slapstick and other forms of situational comedy." - One thing this show is not, is subtle. But I suppose it's good that it's unapologetic about it, and where comedy is to be had, it is layered on thick. Then we can either laugh uproariously or groan also without apology.

"Hye-jin’s portrayal has changed for the better. We no longer see her doing her work, which means we no longer see how she screws up that badly. Instead, we see her screwing up as a person, which is still embarrassing, but in a less unprofessional way." - Which may account for why Sung Joon is suddenly more concerned about her as a person and not shouting her out for incompetence.

I still cannot reconcile the 'sedate young Hye Jin' with the 'nervous wreck adult' Hye Jin. But perhaps the change in her will be that much more obvious, as she gains more self-worth (before the fallout with Ha Ri robs her of it) and she'd better gains lots by show's end!

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Jon G.

October 2, 2015 at 9:29 AM

I still cannot reconcile the ‘sedate young Hye Jin’ with the ‘nervous wreck adult’ Hye Jin. But perhaps the change in her will be that much more obvious, as she gains more self-worth (before the fallout with Ha Ri robs her of it) and she’d better gains lots by show’s end!

That was one of the things that bothered me a lot in the beginning. "Identity" was one of the major themes of the show, but there was almost no elaboration on that concept.

I had a lot of questions like:
Did HJ's behaviour change a lot since her teenage years, or just her appearance?

I often criticise K-dramas for their unnecessary exposition in concomitance with "tell-don't-show", but here I'd really like to get a little more clarity.

However, now I just think that I'm not supposed to care at all, the show doesn't seem overly concerned with these issues and is just a situational comedy.

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Manin

October 2, 2015 at 7:27 AM

Twenty again really is an excellent show. I hope they don't ruin it!

Gakstital: While I ended up loving the show, I can see what you mean. It's a bit repetitive at times, and I can totally see how if you weren't a part of the hype when it happened, expectations from hearing about it might be too high. It's worth giving a chance though, if for nothing else, the acting of the main male leads are excellent. (sadly I have not been able to finish a joo woon show after it)

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Sajen

October 2, 2015 at 8:24 AM

2 quick questions. First where are you watching Cheo Young 2? Second have they explained why Na-young is still a ghost and not passed on?

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growingbeautifully

October 2, 2015 at 8:41 AM

Hi @Sajen

I watch Cheo Yong 2 on Dramacool.

Unfortunately, no, totally unexplained. She was shown to have "passed through to the other side" and disappeared in the first Season, but she's totally hanging out with Cheo Yong and idol groups in Season 2.

My guess: the producer knew the show would fail without her and the dynamics between CY and NY but they could not come up with any reason to have her back so they just did it without a reason!

@ Manin and Amilia

Yes, isn't it interesting. What is a winning feature in the show can also be the one that turns off some viewers. But keeping in mind that the 'look' is intentional, will probably help me look at it from a different angle. That will most likely help a great deal! LOL! Thanks.

And I notice @ Manin mentions male leads... so Jin Se Yeon was just as per normal, I take it? :)

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Manin

October 3, 2015 at 1:54 AM

Growingbeautifully:

Haha, Honestly I didn't think she was that bad in Gaksital. At least she didn't ruin anything for me. However the Joo Won and Park Ki-woong owned it for me with their performance.

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Anna

October 3, 2015 at 2:39 AM

I only made it through the first episode of Gaksital, despite all the hype. To me it looked like a drama playing at being set in the 30's. There was no authenticity that I expect from period dramas; the language was wrong, too modern; the behaviour was very 21st century and it came across to me as a bit slapstick. Admittedly this was only the first episode but I was seriously underwhelmed. Is it worth my while ever going back to it?

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growingbeautifully

October 3, 2015 at 5:09 AM

Hi @Anna

It's OK if you don't feel like watching this show. I am only choosing to do so for my own reasons, already aware that I may not like much of the production overall. I cannot therefore recommend it. You have valid reasons for not liking it, therefore "Go with how you feel", I guess, is as good advice as any. :)

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Manin

October 3, 2015 at 11:33 AM

Anna -

Well I think it is supposed to be set in the 30's and some things were okay, especially fashion vise. Language I cannot really say anything on.

I do think some of it comes from it being a manhwa. So some of the slapstick feel can come from playing up the comic book side of things. It's not a pure historical drama, although it does use historical events.

Personally I do think it's a drama that is worth the watch. However, like GB said, it's your own personal preference. If you don't like it you don't. No one here is gonna be angry for you not liking a show that was popular :)

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Chesens

October 2, 2015 at 6:05 PM

Hi @GB unni!

I said last week that I would start Gaksital (because of Joo Woon) and I did! ?

I am now on Episode... 24!!! Nyahaha! I did about 3 episodes per night.

I must say, I am really enjoying it. Probably not the same as how it was with the other Beanies during airing time but I do find it very engaging. The acting and chemistry (or anti-chemistry, if there is such a thing) of our hero and our villain are just superb! The romance is kind of meh and to think I am one who wants my fair share of romance in my dramas. The feels I get actually come from the angst and the badass, so I'm surprised that the show is able to give me that.

Well, there are plotholes, yes. And LOTS of moments where you suspend belief. But if you let that go, you get to enjoy the heart of the show much better. Anyway, I'm four episodes away from the end so I'll be locked up in my room the entire day. You'll know I'm still alive because I'll probably be screaming GAKSITAAAAAAAAAL from time to time. ?

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growingbeautifully

October 3, 2015 at 1:30 AM

@ Chesens

I'm so glad to know that you've marathoned and enjoyed it so much! Wish I could be in the room next door to hear your scream LOL! I'll keep in mind what you've mentioned and see if it strikes me the same way. Let me know what you're going to watch next! Cheers! :)

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2 fanwho

October 2, 2015 at 6:24 AM

Happy Friday! My drama basket is full again. I feel blessed this year drama-wise because drama that I enjoy keeps coming.

YongPal:YongPal ended! I still don't get it why it had such a high 20% ratings. I mean it was great in the beginning but went WTH later. About a week ago, they carried out their 20% ratings promise, by having dinner outing with reporters. Jung WongIn/Chief Lee said it was his first time to be able to meet such a high rating promise, and it was his family honor.

Anyway I am glad it ended for JooWon's sake. He said he was so tired that he was glad the drama was ending. One of the things he said was that his grandma confuses him as the character in drama, so she told him to hurry going back to HanShin, and give Kim TaeHee the wedding ring. Cute.

The winner from this show is Kim TaeHee for sure. I also wondered after I saw her being a nominee for Korean drama awards(October 9th), but now I think that might be possible. lol.

She was pretty: And I am glad She was pretty is getting better(meaning Hwang JungEum is less shrilling, and Park SuJeon is not so terrible).
I love Siwon in the show. This is what JB/GF said in Thing vs. thing about Siwon in King of Dramas.
“He’s hilarious. Just the variety of facial expressions
alone is a crack-up. He’s vapid and vain and totally
willing to go there to look absurd.” Exactly- does
this mean he didn't make any progress in last 3 years?
lol.

People are talking about who wins comedic acting between Hwang JungEum and Choi SiWon. Obviously Knetizens are not bothered by HJE's over-acting (I am not either).
Hwang JunEum earned another nick LovelyJin (Lovely+
HaeJin), in addition to her 'MidBoHwang'(You can watch
trusting Hwang JungEum on her acting). That is quite a
compliment. And at this moment, I will take any pairing
because I like all 4 leads(Even though Go JunHee is ?).

Preproduction: There are a few dramas currently being made before airing (and some hope that could become new trend). There have been a few preproduction dramas, but none had high ratings. And I think that is one of the reasons it has not been implemented even though live-shooting keep having criticism (poor casts).

Live-shoot(due to last minutes script) continued because that way writers can change scripts depending on viewers' sentiment. But Lee BumSoo(from Last) said that does not mean(changing script based on viewers' response/ratings) show's success.
I agree. I can't think of any dramas which succeeded because writer changed the direction of story(or writer got changed) because of viewer responses. Can you?

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Kiara

October 2, 2015 at 7:08 AM

"But Lee BumSoo(from Last) said that does not mean(changing script based on viewers’ response/ratings)"

I did read one interview with Kim Yeong-hyeon after QSD where all she said was that she and her co-writer hadn't been able to follow their plan for Bidam because he became so popular with the fans. It sounded like they had no choice, that's why I thought it must be the network doing the pressuring.

Personally I've always hated what they did with Bidam. Turning the one-time "chicken man" into the great queen's boyfriend ruined the last dozen episodes for me.

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Kiara

October 2, 2015 at 10:27 AM

@kellie

"Personally I’ve always hated what they did with Bidam"

Same here and I do have a love/hate relationship with the writers.
I think they did it to keep the ratings from free falling after Mishil died. Kim Yeong-hyeon has a lot of freedom to do what she wants with her dramas.

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Daehoney

October 2, 2015 at 7:37 AM

Be it preproduction or liveshooting, each has advantages and disadvantages. Both can't guarantee ratings or praises, so it's down to the team behind the screen. And the actors. And viewers. Liveshooting means they can change the direction in the middle (and it's not always bad depending how they execute it) but preproducing offers a more comfortable shooting for actors and staff. I prepare preproducing though.

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3 redfox

October 2, 2015 at 6:24 AM

Hi

at 12:42
So, I don´t have a lot of time right now, going to see Viplala - I can NOT believe my favorite ever childrens´ book is FINALLY a movie, they say it was the largest movie project in Netherlands in 15 years. This is so amazing, I am up in the sky.

anyway, seems like She Was Pretty is getting a bit better, although some parts are a big question mark. But HJE and PSJ seem more synchronized with their acting and the awkward-funny moments don´t seem so unnatural any more.

I managed to log in to my Random Tails blog and write about it a bit.

And Siwon!
POSSIBLE SPOILER:

I don´t think anyone else could play such crazy scenes with such gusto. But why does poor Park Seo Joon always end up in the hands of perverts. Like Yo Na wasn´t enough, now a guy steals his underwear... writers dirty fantasies.

SPOILER OVER.

anyway, gotta go. see ya.

at 16:20
I saw Viplala, and... it is perhaps not quite as magical as the books and the estonian dubbing was disturbing, I wonder if I can see it with original voices somewhere. The main thing missing was the irony the books contained. It was too cheesy and the children in the cinema were sneering and saying "how embarrassing!", even though they were like 9-12 years old. I loved the guy who played Viplala. He is totally adorable. but the original Viplala is supposed to be a misanthrope, a little.

overall what matters is it will boost childrens´ imagination, for sure. and there WILL be a sequel. too.

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redfox

October 2, 2015 at 6:45 AM

oh, question. hmm. First, what do you want to see me write about in my blog?
and second, which drama do you think improved most in the later half compared to early episodes?

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elric

October 3, 2015 at 7:51 PM

Since I've only watched 10 complete kdramas, I can only name few. . . okay only one :D

From my short list, Cantabile Tomorrow comes to mind.

(Quoting my reason from my post in soompi hahaha)

After struggling in the first half, they manage to transition in such an amazing way when as JB puts "once it decided to be its own drama". Cantabile decided to go with an adaptation that didn't care if they would be totally different from Nodame Cantabile. It still had some of the elements of the original but once they found the right formula and groove, it became wonderful.

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4 gadis

October 2, 2015 at 6:30 AM

Hello beanies..

-SHE WAS PRETTY: After 2 weeks, I even expected the slapstick, overreacting, and Seongjoon's general meanness. Whenever he start scolding Haejin and make a cruel comment, I just translate it into apology or gratitude or motivation or concern or any other thing that he can't say properly (I assume there are many short-circuited wire inside his brain that he can only talk and act cruelly). That way, suddenly this drama become 20 times easier to handle. But aside from that, this week eps are quite satisfying. Finally we got to see our rightful couple interract with each other. And also thumb up for that reluctant bromance, I died laughing.

Thank u !

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6 kanz

October 2, 2015 at 7:03 AM

Looking for the battle among
Six Flying Dragons vs Sassy Go Go vs Dazzling Temptation

I'm pretty weird myself when it comes to sageuk so you are not alone lol.

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bashful

October 4, 2015 at 5:03 AM

Intersting. Sageuks are my favourites!

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Manin

October 2, 2015 at 7:14 AM

I am looking forward to Six Flying Dragons. HAven't kept up to date with the plot fr the other ones mentioned though. So might try, might no.

The changed voice depends on if they are doing it in Chinese or in Korean I suppose. If Chinese all the actors will be dubbed over, so at least it's consistent? Though I prefer having it dubbed where you cannot hear the actor speaking korean under it. I saw that in a project and it left me unable to continue watching because it just became terrible and mixed all of the languages together.

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kanz

October 2, 2015 at 7:21 AM

I will be aired in China, so I'm pretty sure his voice will be dubbed.

October 2, 2015 at 7:43 AM

Six Flying Dragons will be the mon/tues winner is my guess. It has very little to do with actual history so if you are in it for the history you will be disappointed. It's better not to know and just go with the flow.

I watched the 9mins trailer here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=30&v=0M843SJKU_s

October 2, 2015 at 8:31 PM

She is usually the exec producer in her dramas and she gets to pick actors that she thinks would fit her characters. She has been doing a great job casting great talents to carry her shows.

I'm on the fence with Kim Myung Min here. He's rather silly for a renown and powerful scholar. YAI's character (*sigh*). Our 15 yr old government official is too busy chasing a poor girl.

I want watch a new sageuk and Merchant's sub is a bit slow. SFD will be subbed faster.

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juniper

October 2, 2015 at 9:45 PM

I forgot that TWDR was based on a novel lol. Han Seok-kyu was so amazing in that. And so was Song Joong-ki. idk about Kim Myung-min as Jung Do-jeon either, but I'll take seeing him in a semi-decent role--it's been a really long time. I mean, obviously this drama is never going to be great but he could be the next Han Seok-kyu or Go Hyun-jung, performance-wise.

I haven't started on Merchant yet--I'm waiting for a few episodes to accumulate. If you've seen any of it, what do you think? I'm going to tune in for the first couple of episodes of 6FD at least, too. If Lee Bang-won gets woobified, though, I'm not sure how long I'll last lol.

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Kiara

October 3, 2015 at 6:49 AM

Here is hoping that this would be Kim Myung Min's turn.

I want to watch the first Tree with Deep Root but it's so old I can't find it anywhere.

I'm waiting for Merchant to be fully subbed to 10 eps at least.

I know I'll be throwing popcorns at my pc screen but I'll watch it for KMM.

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prettysup

October 3, 2015 at 7:26 AM

TWDR is available in Dramacool

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Kiara

October 3, 2015 at 8:58 AM

@prettysup

I will be watching all 3. DZ PD said he feels burdened to go against SFD. Sassy Go Go team said they are not going for ratings, but for viewers (good attitude). I have high hopes for SFD, with the writer Kim Young-Hyun (was just mentioned as the one changing scripts based on viewer responses. Still she is great, wrote Dae JangGeum and QSD after all). Also KMM KMM KMM fistpump!

October 2, 2015 at 7:06 AM

I was rewatching "The Master's Sun" last night and daydreaming about a So Ji Sub/Gong Hyo Jin reunion in a future drama. That got me to thinking about actor reunions. Currently Hwang Jun-Eum and Park So-Joon are together again in "She Was Pretty" after acting together in "Kill Me, Heal Me."

Lee Dong-Wook and Lee Da-Hae have done "My Girl" and "Hotel King" together; Jung Yumi and Eric Mun did "Discovery of Romance" and "Que Sera" together; Jang Hyuk and Jang Na-Ra did "Successful Story of a Bright Girl," "Fated to Love You," and the short film, "Old Farewell" together.

[b]All that said, what actors would you want most to act together again? And specifically, in what kind of drama (that is different from what they did before?) [/b]

What rubs me wrong is that people coming out after the dust has settle for a long time ago.. you said the heirs lead didn't had any chemistry?

I don't know if you have been living under rock but that chemistry happened to create the largest shippers in Kdrama history and largest supported drama plus breaking Youku viewer records as well dramafever.. perhaps watched drama as well..

So you coming here saying that there was no chemistry is something you felt but most certainly don't share with the majority.. keep your judgement subjective because if we all started talking about all the dramas we dropped because of what we found in no chemistry we could be here for ages..

But I can tell you this with certainity is that ''HEIRS'' did it for most and thats what counts what are dramas made for anyways.. to get watched, loved and supported and heirs happens to meet all these even tho they have as well loud critics but the numbers are there to be seen.. A success is a success

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hg

October 2, 2015 at 10:45 PM

'' Perhaps Most watched drama also''

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pigsnout

October 2, 2015 at 11:33 PM

Lol why are u so salty? She got an opinion and you have a problem with her saying it.....if you don't like it, just ignore. That is still better than attacking random comm comments bc they said sth u disagree with. On the open thread that too.

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hg

October 3, 2015 at 12:15 AM

Seriously tho conspiracy theorists and revisionists like this rubs people the wrong way..

It wasen't an opinion it was written there was no chemistry? its like saying Elvis was shiit or the beatles wasen't successful..

everything has a certain criteria of judgement of what is successful and flop.. questioning dramas that exceeded the expectations and the artists chemistry in that matter is reaching for straws.. I don't like the beatles but can't deny that they were success overall and did it for some people back then.. what is good is subjective and tastes are different so its up to every single individual to chose.. so if the poster put in my opinion didn't reply to it but the poster said just bad chemistry..

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redfox

October 3, 2015 at 1:30 AM

oh blaa blaa, no one will read this.

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hg

October 3, 2015 at 2:02 AM

@redfox

Never replied to you just so you don't get confused!

btw what is this blah blah? are we back to kindergarten now? if you can come with something to type then perhaps the internet is not for you.. its for the intelligent beings

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juniper

October 2, 2015 at 10:02 PM

I'd like to see Lee Joon-ki reunite with Jung Kyung-ho. imo they had more acting chemistry in TBDAW than LJK and Nam Sang-mi.

October 2, 2015 at 7:55 AM

I don't like romance reunions, why people want them is a mystery to me. Once the couple works great in one story I want to remember them like that, if I get the same actors in a different story it feels like a cheap imitation, it would have to be in a really great story to be worthy and how many of them are that good?

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pigsnout

October 2, 2015 at 11:48 PM

Sometimes it's nice to see two actors pairing up in different stories and different types of projects. I liked Ji Sung and Hwang Jung Eum in Secret Love, but they were also great in Kill Me Heal Me where his character and hers was totally different and the story was different too.

Even Hollywood actors work together as couples in different projects, Brad and Angelina Jolie did Mr and Mrs Smith and now they are coming out with a different movie which is more film festival type. Both projects can be successful if the story and directing is good.

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kimchikay

October 2, 2015 at 8:17 AM

Gong Yoo and Yoon Eun Hye PLEASE!? I want like a Coffee Prince 2, which probably isn't possible but at least the two of them together would be fantastic!

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osmanthustea

October 2, 2015 at 9:05 AM

Kim Soo-hyun and Jeon Ji-hyun!!!

Also Seo In-guk and jang nara (she's too awesome. But I'd like more of her and Jang Hyuk too).

And Hyun Bin with Ha Ji-won!

<3 <3 <3 to all the ones you mentioned too!

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pebble

October 2, 2015 at 9:31 AM

While it may be difficult to see the reunion of So Ji-Sub & Gong Hyo-Jin for the time being, I’m looking forward to see him pairing up with Shin MinA in upcoming Oh My God. Gong Hyo-Jin is one of my favourite actresses, she does have amazing chemistry with SJS in Master’s Sun, as well as with Jo In-sung in It’s Okay, That’s Love. I like Shin MinA too, she is very attractive in an unpretentious way, so far, in my opinion, she is the only actress which is a perfect match for LJK, their pairing in Arang and the Magistrate was so awesome!! So likewise, there is a very high chance that she and SJS will make a great OTP.

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pogo

October 2, 2015 at 10:29 AM

I would die of joy if So Ji-sub and Gong Hyo-jin ever paired up in a drama again. And imo romance is compulsory, Master's Sun (a VERY skinship-heavy drama) did not deliver nearly enough on that front. Any genre is ok, as long as there are smoochies!

Other pairings I want to see a reunion of:

1. Lee Jun-ki and Shin Mina (Arang & the Magistrate) : when I first heard of this drama, I was unsure how this pairing would turn out even though I love them both individually. But they had chemistry in spades, I don't think oppa has ever had sparks that good with any actress before or since. Not even Nam Sang-mi.

2. Song Joong-ki and Moon Chae-won (Nice Guy): They had some great, really intense chemistry there and I loved that the drama exploited it fully. But next time I'd like them in a romcom or even a thriller/action story - less pain and angst, more heart-poundingly close proximity.

3. Won Bin and Gong Hyo-jin (Guns & Talks): in anything that gives them a proper, full-focus love line as the leads. Though I realise that 14 years after the movie and with a decreasing likelihood of Won Bin ever coming back to acting at all, there is a snowball's chance in hell for this.

4. Kim Woo-bin and Kim Ji-won (Heirs): In anything at all that lets them have a proper love line (and is better than Heirs). Heirs was all tease and then cheated us out of actually seeing them as a couple, I'm still annoyed about that.

5. Yoo Yeon-seok and Kang Sora (Warm & Cozy): ANY kind of drama will do. Just please, god, let it be better than Warm & Cozy.

6. Honorable mention: IU and Lee Hyun-woo. Ok, I realise they only did a music video together and not a drama or movie but they were SO adorable in that that I need to see them as the otp in an acting project stat. Especially post-producer, which seems to have genuinely unlocked new potential in IU as an actress.

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pebble

October 2, 2015 at 9:45 PM

Are you referring to Sandglass? I just googled for that, it is quite an old drama, wow Kiara, you must have been watching k-dramas since young! I don't know much about Choi Min Soo, but I do know Ko Hyun Jung from Spring Day and Daemul. There is an air of dignified charismatic charm about her which makes it kind of hard for her to pair up nicely with anyone, at least not with Kwon Sang-woo in Daemul, and she is even more incompatible with Jo In-Sung in Spring Days so much so that I rather she liked his brother Ji Jin-hee in the drama.

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Kiara

October 3, 2015 at 9:07 AM

@Pebble

Sounds perfect haha. They both have so much classic appeal, that's true. I could see something like a tragic love affair spanning years, like set in occupation era or something? Or maybe like two people who lost their families in the war and find comfort in each other? lol I'm daydreaming.

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9 Manin

October 2, 2015 at 7:09 AM

Happy friday people!

Sad to hear about what happened in Oregon. The world is a terrible place atm.

Looks like I'll be heading back to kindergarten jobs. At least beng a temporary substitute atm. Will help a little with the unemployment. If anyone knows of a history/museum relevant job please let me know :P

Dramaland:
Angry mum put on hold. just couldn't get into it.

Twenty Again okay this drama is awesome! I am tempted to show it to my um (who is also back in school for a leader course thingy) except that English being the only language for subtitles.. It's so cute though! Go mum! And Min Soo, I forgive you a lot for that reaction to the news.

What to start next? Healer maybe? or I need Romance 3? Other suggestions?

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prettysup

October 2, 2015 at 7:17 AM

Healer is good, or you can try I remember you

October 2, 2015 at 7:57 AM

I have seen all the previous I need romance versions. I do like them, though I suppse seeing an ideal guy in a real life setting could be dangerous :P

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10 sundaexstory

October 2, 2015 at 7:19 AM

Woohoo just finished Yongpal!
The ending was...kinda rushed, especially the surgery part, like they just showed a few seconds of it?? And what bummed me most was they didn't show what happened to Chaeyoung after that!
Some good points:
1) I finally could feel the chemistry between the otp. ♥♥
2) I really love the Head Housekeeper. I teared up slightly when she just lost it and cried for Yeojin to snap out of her state. :'( Also she was really smart when hinting the points through the recorded telephone call.
3) I really, really love how at the very end, the last line by Yeojin resonates with the first episode.

It was a pretty good final episode, I think. At the end, everything comes back to...Yongpal.

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Jon G.

October 2, 2015 at 7:32 AM

Well, I cannot tell what to do, but my advice is: NO!

If you are a Joo Won or Kim Tae-hee fan, watch it. If you enjoy a session of commercials more than anything with a remotely coherent narrative, you might want to watch it. If you like stories with characters in them or stories with a plot, don't watch it.

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Manin

October 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM

based on this I feel lucky that I never picked it up to begin with

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Manin

October 2, 2015 at 9:42 AM

See I like Joo Won too. But for some reason I haven't been able to finish any of his shows since gaksital.

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gaeinalee

October 2, 2015 at 9:49 AM

Remember Heirs? The rating was so high too, but....
Many good dramas got less than 10 in ratings. SK rating is still mystery to me, which make me couldn't care less. ^^

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windsun33

October 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM

Yong Pal was not all that bad - but neither was it all that good. One of the best for the current season, but far from the best of the past couple years.

October 2, 2015 at 5:55 PM

I hate D-Day so much that I'm actually starting to like it. It's like just what will it take to make me stop watching this show? Viewing a train wreck in slow motion describes it perfectly for me. It's got all the usual medical emergencies and disaster movie tropes and cliches but the writer is putting the most bizarre spin on them so I can't figure out if it's supposed to be a comedy or what. I spend most of the show either giggling or outright laughing.

What I do find most puzzling though is how a major, world class city like Seoul in a country that is still technically in a state of war with N. Korea doesn't have a major disaster plan in place. Medical personnel, first responders etc are floundering around like dealing with major emergencies has never, ever been discussed. Like WTF???

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October 2, 2015 at 9:09 PM

I knoooow. Once I get over my rage issues I start laughing too--it's getting easier now that it's not copying Golden Time as much anymore. What gets me even more than the lack of preparedness (you are so right it's not even funny) is the lack of basic awareness about earthquakes. Like, I don't live in an earthquake prone region at all but even I know the basics. I just about died when the earthquake happened and that director woman decided it would be a good idea to start the car and drive into the street, and when everyone started running from room to room screaming and no one chilled out and tried standing in a doorway. And then they were so confused about what happened--like they had to be told that it was an earthquake, no one went out on a limb and assumed that the ground shaking=earthquake.

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12 michyeosseo

October 2, 2015 at 7:21 AM

Just looked at my current kdramas and realized I''ve reduced them to three, of which I've only seen SWP (Hwajung doesn't count since I'm planning to marathon the last eleven episodes after exams since the show itself forgot to pace after dragging for a while).

She Was Pretty - Oh my dear Hari, you're turning into quite a problematic fave. I mean, yes, I do love you and your friendship with Wifey but don't you see, the thing you're trying to prioritize now is what's potentially sabotaging the more precious ones in the process... You do realize what you're doing so hopefully, you act a bit more selflessly so that wrong, horrible gut-feeling goes away.

That aside, I was rolling on the floor with the hilarity of poiseless, flabbergasted Sungjoon. Either I'm getting more used to HJE's 110% energy level or Hyejin's learning some chill. Darling weirdo Shinhyuk's candidate for perfect orabeoni, where do I get one?

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October 2, 2015 at 7:29 AM

Oh, and saw Beauty Inside unsubbed. Movie was jjang on the portion of reminding me how gorgeous Han Hyo Joo is and making me buy and feel Woojin's dilemma because he turns into a different person after waking up. I'll never forget that sneaking-makgeolli-into-a-Yakult-because-namja-chingu's-a-kid scene and halmoni-to-Lee-Jin-Wook-transformation scene; last but not the least, the ~adorable~ final kiss - oh wait, it should be kisses, yup, plural.

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13 john

October 2, 2015 at 7:23 AM

Watched: J drama Yami no Bansosha .

Really enjoyed it. Arata Furuta plays an unlikely Watson to Nao Matsushita's Sherlock.

J movie: La La La At Rock Bottom .

Ex-con gets beat up on his release from prison, resulting in memory loss. Stumbles on to the stage and steals the show from the band when he delivers a gut wrenching blues song. Proceeds to make a new start on life. Not bad.

K Movie: Chronicle of a Blood Merchant

Enjoyed it.

Speaking of Merchants, not sure if the slow subs of The Merchant: Gaekju 2015 are going to convince me to watch.

Bring on Six Flying Dragons instead, (sorry Jang Hyuk) . If the subs ever come through I might pick it up again, but the first episode was underwhelming.

Watching: She Was Pretty. Oh, Ha Ri, girl, you're doing your friend wrong.

Anticipating: Sassy Go Go, Six Flying Dragons, and The Village

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prettysup

October 2, 2015 at 7:26 AM

The Merchant - only ep1 and 2 subs were slow. Looks like its picking up the speed since ep3 subbed is already out today.

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October 2, 2015 at 7:35 AM

prettysup ~

Viki shows Ep 2 @ 83% and Ep 3 @ 73% .

At this rate, I'll pass and let a few episodes build up. At 50 episodes, it's not like it's going away anytime soon.

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Kiara

October 2, 2015 at 7:47 AM

I believe it's a 36 episodes sageuk.

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john

October 2, 2015 at 8:19 AM

prettysup ~

I can't watch dramacool on my TV, so that's a no go. Out of curiosity, who's subs are they using?

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October 2, 2015 at 6:04 PM

I don't know whose subs are they using. Can you watch myasiantv ? It also has eps 1-3 subbed already.

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owl

October 2, 2015 at 8:12 AM

Hi John,
I believe that Ha Ri has enough luv for wifey to get through this as revealed in her comment in their bedroom scene (ha), “Being okay…is hard.” A truer statement there never was (kdrama of RL). If running into her stepmother was enough to give her a reality check, then good. I like how Ha Ri works through her conflicting emotions openly. Womance will prevail. She is the best second lead, in fact, I’d say her and Hye Jin are co-leads. Btw, doesn’t everything just look so good oh Ha Ri? She has such long, slender hands – so graceful.

Hooray for bromance, even if it’s one sided. Makes it so much fun to watch.

October 2, 2015 at 8:36 AM

after the Korean Airlines nut rage incident, I can genuinely believe that rich people at that level get away with things that make even dramas seem tame sometimes.

At least she went to jail for it, albeit only for 5 months. Let's see her try to get into the US or Europe again now that she has a criminal record. She'll be lucky!

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Daehoney

October 2, 2015 at 3:38 PM

What really reminds me of K-dramas in the chaebol father-in-law case, he came with a woman (although he's already married of course) to a bar in a hotel, and when his credit card was rejected the woman said, "Don't you know who he is? He's the owner of this hotel!" I rolled my eyes upon reading that because it's a line came out in any chaebol drama.
I don't really know how blown up it was since it happened long time ago when I was a child but I wonder if it happened in Korea in recent days how netizens woupd react, and if it's being blown up in Korea the international world would likely pay attention. It would be far more interesting than Nut Rage since it involved a death.

Regarding KYK, there are actors that I don't really like in real life but don't really mind to see in dramas or movies. There are also actors who I really don't like in real life thus I can't stand watching them (cough, Lee Byung Hun, cough, Kim Hyun Joong). KYK clearly falls in the former category. Despite his view of beauty, he clearly shows he wants to improve in interviews. His character in Pinocchio was so cliche and now he's given a chance to act a character who's richer in emotions, and of course lines. And boy, what an improvement though I must take the ability of cable channel to make their actors look less awkward into account.

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15 whatsthescenario

October 2, 2015 at 7:36 AM

Hello!!! Happy Free for All Friday

I've been M.I.A. for the past 4 weeks, but it was for a good reason. I've been in the world of jdramas. Thanks to all the beaners that recommended some jdramas , category: quirky or romantic. Your suggestions were right on spot!!!!

Previously watched
Date
Second to Last Love
Long Vacation
Inconvenient Benriya
Mr. Brain
Kimi Wa Petto

Don't judge me, but So far I've watched :
Princess Jellyfish
Hotaru no Hikari
Love Shuffle
11 Nin mo Iru
99 days with a Star

Started this week:
Mahoro Ekimae Bangaichi

Please keep the suggestions coming! Remember , looking for Rom-Com or Quirky. A combination of the two would be A+

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October 2, 2015 at 7:49 AM

Whatsthescenario ~

I loved all of the scenes where he is debating with himself. In the "silent" acting mode with elaborate hand movements.

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Manin

October 2, 2015 at 9:46 AM

the 2007 version is the only one I acknowledge existing :p The combination of hilariousness Oguri Shun and Ikuta Toma. And all the side characters are just love in it.

My hopes for TTBY was for it to unite the crazyness of the japanese version, with the more true-to-the-manga of the taiwanese version. Sadly it failed to do so.

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October 2, 2015 at 10:11 AM

yeah, to me 2007 Hana Kimi is the OG Hana Kimi (even ahead of the Taiwanese version, which is also beloved by many - I think Ella Chen was a better lead actress than Horikita Maki, but the supporting cast factor means j-Hana Kimi gets the win)

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October 2, 2015 at 11:41 AM

Where can I find it? I've been searching and only the Taiwanese version comes up

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October 2, 2015 at 12:42 PM

hmm, I haven't watched it since dramacrazy went down but it's one of the more popular jdramas and fully subbed - pretty sure dr*mafire, dr*m*cool or one of those sites will have it. last I knew, gooddrama had it.

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Manin

October 3, 2015 at 1:58 AM

Gooddrama has it, and drama (dot) net as well at least.

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pogo

October 2, 2015 at 8:07 AM

Princess Jellyfish is ADORABLE.

My tastes in jdrama seem to tend to the darker/thriller-y stuff, but if you want quirky slice-of-life, it doesn't get much better than Honey & Clover. It's an oldie but goodie, about a bunch of college friends.

I guess people will have already recced you earlier stuff like the 2007 Hana Kimi or Hana Yori Dango, not to mention Gokusen (daughter of a yakuza clan becomes a schoolteacher, it doesn't get much more hilarious than that).

Also if you like Princess Jellyfish you should definitely watch Kamikaze Girls. It's one of my all-time favourites in any language, and absolutely glorious. The two leads absolutely kill it (and it is that rare bird - a movie centred on a female friendship, with a very imperfect and cranky central narrator - who is awesome btw).

October 2, 2015 at 8:41 AM

Recommending Buzzer Beat...It's not quirky but definitely has oddles of romance with a side of comedy..I love this one!

Also watch - Rich Man, Poor Woman and Love Revolution..both are fun romantic dramas =)

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alua

October 2, 2015 at 8:46 AM

Not sure what there is to judge, that's a great list of dramas (only ones I haven't watched are Mr. Brain & 99 days, and don't care that much for Hotaru no Hikari – the rest, I all love too!).

The currently airing Tamiyou is a great, quirky one with fantastic actors to boot (the two leads especially)

Or an oldie: Hana Kimi. (I see some have recommended it already.)

And how about Moteki? (There's a film & a dorama.) Romance and quirky.

You could also go down the path of SPEC – it's sci-fi mystery, but it comes with some quirks.

I want her to continue making him all confused and yet so drawn to her. Basically just continue along the same lines, with them being together instead of just crush territory.

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alua

October 3, 2015 at 9:38 AM

That's exactly what I'm envisioning. ? Now we just need a director, producer and writer to get on board......

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October 2, 2015 at 9:07 AM

I wondered a little about the weather, but somehow didn't quite register it. Good catch! More k dramas should do away with live shoots. >_<

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jozie

October 4, 2015 at 5:18 PM

I watched, Noble, My Love too. Not bad if you need something to mainline while sick in bed. Fluff with no substance ~ but fun.

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17 Tara

October 2, 2015 at 7:38 AM

Hey everybody...happy OT!!

I'm actually on here early enough - which rarely happens! ? Hope yall had a good Chuseok!!

I'm actually startled at myself how I've been watching my two dramas (Twenty Again & She Was Pretty) faithfully, despite the course load! ?

Twenty Again: Gah, I love this drama!! I love how No-ra is becoming her own person (loved last week's ending!) and how she's experiencing all the things that she didn't get to as a young adult. I love Hyun-seok and his blatant ways of going gaga over No-ra (heehee) although he felt like he was doing right by trying to help them reconcile. If you only knew!! Can't wait til he finds out the state of their marriage. And even though I'd written Min-soo off as an ungrateful little brat, his realization and hearing what really happened - while he still has that crappy way of expressing himself (thanks to Dad) - his moment with No-ra was tear-inducing!! ? Now if he could only get rid of annoying gf. I wasn't surprised Yi-jin was full of herself ("wasn't marrying me the your top goal in life??" Barfff) and how she thinks Hyun-seok likes her - again, if she only knew that he knew! Definitely looking forward to watching today's ep in a few!! ?

She Was Pretty: I love how they decided to have Sung-joon fall for Hye-jin as she is now, rather than after she probably gets a makeover. That being said though...my biggest gripe is with how they went there with Ha-ri - gah!!! ??? Her growing mountain of lies and she thinks, ah I can pursue him because she basically let me?? Argh, you are such the worst bff ever...it officially become real yesterday with her swiping Hye-jin's prized possession, and she ain't ever coming back...even if she deludes herself into thinking that she'll tell Hye-jin the truth later. Yeah, it's already way too damn late. But I'm also very glad that Sung-joon is realizing that things feel off with her and how he feels like someone totally unexpected like Hye-jin is giving him his long-lost love Hye-jin vibes!! ? Shin-hyuk has been totally fun to watch, and it's been great to see him be there for Hye-jin (although boo!! for him to give that advice to Ha-ri to go for it with Sung-joon- 'course, he didn't know). How he caught Sung-joon staring off at Hye-jin during the meeting and vice versa - while I feel it's probably breaking his heart (I love the little moments where he tells her she's pretty, and you can tell he means it from the look on his eyes, so ? over her!) I think he's too good to end up with backstabbing Ha-ri. I also loved how Editor caught Sung-joon smiling like a fool at Hye-jin's desk...now next week should be interesting, even if he's trying to convince himself that Ha-ri = Hye-jin simply because of that piece. Go with your gut, dude!!!?

Well, hopefully the remnants of Joaquin don't end up making landfall here in the US - it's been bad whenever hurricanes/tropical storms hit in October.

Have a great weekend, yall!! ?

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October 2, 2015 at 8:47 AM

For me, swiping the missing puzzle piece put Ha Ri over the line, and I am now having doubts that this friendship is going to survive much longer.. sad to see, really. There are so few k-dramas that portray real female friends (as opposed to co-conspirators).

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Tara

October 2, 2015 at 8:48 PM

Hey Windsun33!

I totally agree...that just was the last straw for me, and I was reallyyy hoping that this awesome female bffs that weren't rivals would continue on. (You're absolutely right on about the dearth of female friends that are truly friends in kdramas, and not those that are silently wielding the hypothetical 'knife' to stab them in the back with.)

Sadly, it doesn't look like there would be much of anything left after this final betrayal. It's been bothering me how Ha-ri decided she was going to pursue Sung-joon, despite the lingering guilt over lying to Hye-jin...but that was lowest of the low. I'm waiting for the instance when Sung-joon realizes she's been Not Hye-jin...and break her heart to smithereens :P

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elric

October 3, 2015 at 8:07 PM

Shin-hyuk gave her a speech that gave her the final push.

Love is crazy and openly allowed. Be crazy. Doesn't everyone love while being that crazy? Instead of complicating it, if you let yourself be crazy, it's simple. Don't look back and regret it, but just go for it.

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October 3, 2015 at 9:49 PM

Hey elric!
I did know that it was because of his speech to her that ultimately convinced her to fully pursue Sung-joon (see my original post)...but I was just saying that I'd been bothered over the course of Ha-ri continuing to meet him and slowly falling for him, prior to Shin-hyuk giving her that 'pep' talk that ultimately led her to pursue Sung-joon.

While Shin-hyuk may have told her with good intentions, I think he might be floored when he finds out who it was. Not his beloved Jackson first love!!! -.-

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October 4, 2015 at 6:11 AM

@Tara Oops! Sorry about that :( But I do totally agree with you. Does she know her relationship, which she describes as deeper than between sisters, is at stake here? Maybe she's reasoning that since Hye-jin is beyond pissed at Sung-joon, she feels it's okay. But trying to conjure an explanation to her actions still doesn't justify whatever she's doing. It's really painful to see Ha-ri and Hye-jin interactions after Ha-ri comes home from her "bonding time" with Sung-joon.

On another note, it will be interesting to see Shin-hyuk's reaction once he knows who Ha-ri really is. Maybe we'll see his more serious side.

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October 3, 2015 at 8:10 PM

Ha Ri is becoming desperate and is extremely sad (and painful) on how she wants to pursue her first love. She wants to hurt herself. She wants to deceive her friend and even ask Hye-jin to wait for her to tell what's really going on after everything is finish. I want to say it doesn't sound logical but heck, love is crazy!

I'm dreading the angst that will come between Ha-ri and Hye-jin friendship but I'm excited on how Sung-joon will handle his developing feelings for Hye-jin while he decided to keep holding on to the past (a.k.a Ha-ri)

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October 3, 2015 at 9:57 PM

I agree with your assessment about Ha-ri..."wait for me until I can finally tell you" -- yeah, after it's all said and done >:/

I, too, am dreading the angst that will undoubtedly unfold -- but after what Ha-ri did, I won't feel bad for her. I'll feel totally crushed for Hye-jin because she's the one who got dealt with her bff going against the code in pursuing Hye-jin's man, no matter if she asked her to pretend to be her. It was only supposed to be 'til she supposedly left for the UK.

But I, too, am absolutely excited that Sung-joon is falling for Real Hye-jin and seeing glimpses of Past Hye-jin in her (even if her current look just doesn't compute in his mind that it could possibly be Past Hye-jin!). He's noticing the little details aren't adding up, and while he's writing off the similarities in Real Hye-jin for now...I can't wait til he realizes how his gut was nudging him in the right direction! That dang puzzle piece may have "quelled" the doubts for now, but I can't wait to see the mountain of lies completely crumble for Ha-ri.

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October 2, 2015 at 7:39 AM

This week both Hwajeong and Yong-pal ended.

October 2, 2015 at 11:52 AM

Agreed on Lee Yeon-hee. I finished HwaJung, yes I agree it was more fun when Cha SeungWon was around, but Kim JaeWon did good as king InJo too, just wasn't so attractive of character. I thought story was not exciting enough to pull viewers, and bad acting of leads (Lee YeonHee and Seo GangJun) did not help either.

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pogo

October 2, 2015 at 10:38 AM

Hi Carole! Looks like you've been busy.

I have been postponing watching Reply 1997 for a long time as drama with a high-school backdrop can be quite stereotypical, and I have had enough of Boys Over Flower, Dream High, To the Beautiful you, Playful Kiss, etc..

Just this week, I finally got to watch it and well unexpectedly, it is amazingly awesome!!! I would recommend it as a must-see for those who relish a walk down memory lane to revisit the yesteryears and be pleasantly reminded of the 90s pop icons in a light-hearted way. It is cute and funny in the way it presented the abrasiveness of teenagers in a humorous light. It also helped that the majority of the conversation was conducted in the Busan dialect, which enhanced the image of Jung Eun-ji as a sassy and feisty teeny bopper. It is a big bonus to have various first generation Korean singers being mentioned, like Jo Sung Mo, Lee Hyori, Yangpa, Sechs Kies, etc, and of course HOT was heavily featured, with Eun-ji being an ultimate fangirl of Tony. For me, it has been a great delight to uncover some really nice ballads of the late 90s, such as Jo Sung Mo’s To Heaven, as I much prefer the heartbreakingly morose and mellow ballads Shin Seung Hoon style than the catchy tunes of the loud and flashy k-pop nowadays. There was a scene in which the four male leads wore black suits to jokingly create replicas of the younger version of the 4 gentlemen in A Gentleman’s Dignity, which I find amazingly funny. Well, Seo In-guk was charmingly boyish in this drama, he and Jung Eun-ji made a cute bickering pair, just like Jae Hee and Han Chae-young in Delightful girl Chun-hyang. Probably, many would fall for his boyish charm, as he did also leave a deep impression in Love Rain and Master’s Sun. I think he has great potential to be the up and coming star, like KSH, LJS and JW, though I am not so hot-headed about him as to dig out all his recent dramas to marathon watch in a frenzy. As so far, no one could win me over completely like LJK. To sum up, Reply 1997 is definitely worth watching, well, if you are watching Twenty Again and are enjoying it, then you should go watch Reply 1997 which is even more enjoyable.

Hi Kiara and Pogo, nice talking to the two of you here :)

I did not see much of Jae Hee's drama too, not even JOJ, I only watched DGCH and one of his movie 3-Iron years ago.

Feel glad that we share the same taste in music. Probably you can check out Sung Si-kyung too, the way he sings can kill!! Though I do not quite understand why he was described as neuk-ki-ha-da (greasy? oily?) on a website I came across.

btw, it's a pity that oppa likes singing those loud techno songs, so there are not many of his songs I really like.

It's getting quite late here, I better go sleep, talk to you again soon. :)

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October 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM

I am so glad you bit the bullet and watched Answer Me 1997 though, it is to the usual high school dramas as a prime cut of beef to a Mcdonald's mystery meat patty.

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pebble

October 2, 2015 at 5:16 PM

Hi Pogo, your description was spot on! Yep, I was glad I did not dismiss Reply 1997, it is really a gem! Btw, I enjoy reading your comments, you are admirably quick witted in replying so succinctly to so many postings here. Your depth of knowledge of the K & Jdrama world had me greatly impressed! :)

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pogo

October 2, 2015 at 8:00 PM

ah, thanks Pebble - you're really making me blush! My knowledge of j and kdramas isn't nearly as extensive as I'd like, but I'm glad if it helps people :)

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October 2, 2015 at 8:08 AM

Beanies help needed.....

To the people who watched CANTABILE TOMORROW does any one knows the tune Naeil plays in the first episode after YooJin cleans Naeil's apartment..

Is it a music or a tune which was composed to the drama???? does anyone knows the name or where i can find it.....

I've been looking for that tune for so many days after watching that drama.... couldn't find it any where....

If anyone knows it plzzzz tellll

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kimchikay

October 2, 2015 at 8:42 AM

Have you taken a look at this?
http://www.dramabeans.com/2014/10/cantabile-tomorrow-song-list/

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No1

October 2, 2015 at 9:05 AM

I already checked it. But it wasn't there

thank you anyway

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Delurker

October 3, 2015 at 7:04 AM

Is this it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZCFlBCkjQ

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No1

October 3, 2015 at 7:29 AM

yup thats the one thank you soooo very much :)

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22 pogo

October 2, 2015 at 8:22 AM

I've jumped into She Was Pretty from episode 4 onwards - it's a weird thing about Hwang Jung-eum dramas, but I never seen to like the first handful of eps and then get hooked once the first couple of weeks are done. It happened with Secret, and with KMHM, and now it's happening here too.

Waiting for Monday (or more accurately, Tuesday since I want subs) because I badly want to watch Sassy Go Go. And to a lesser extent, Six Flying Dragons.

October 2, 2015 at 12:34 PM

warning duly noted, my consumption of Shitsuren Chocolatier is going to remain limited to gifs of Kiko (whom, oddly, I did like as Oguri Shun's sister in Nobunaga Concerto, and as Midori in Norwegian Wood despite her acting not being the strongest).

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merry

October 2, 2015 at 1:56 PM

I watched Ishihara Satome in a different role in a movie about a Japanese doctor in Kenya (Lion in the wind? true story). I guess it was the story that drove the movie and i can overlook the Ishihara you see in jdramas.

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Kiara

October 2, 2015 at 8:54 AM

Lol pogo, I thought I was the only rewatching "War of the Arrows" over and over. (Thank you Netflix) I want more Park Hae-Il. In fact I wish I had a brother like his character irl.

This week just finished watching Noble My Love
which was cute. I really liked the short length. Currently watching Vampire Prosecutor Season 1 and it's great. Love the cast and the production values are top notch.
Still watching TW drama Moon River . The acting isn't the greatest, but there is a sweetness and charm that keeps me tuning in.

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24 Sajen

October 2, 2015 at 8:43 AM

I will never understand what women see in men.

She Was Pretty- I enjoy it but as with everything I'm watching it slowly.

I've been on my first real anime kick in oh 5 years lately which has slowed down my drama watching considerably, well that and waiting for D-Day subs on Viki. I think part of it is well I was starting to get tired of just watching dramas anyway and well so many dramas have been disappointing lately.

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25 Linda Palapala

October 2, 2015 at 8:45 AM

Gaksital is my favorite. Loved the color saturation, after all, this was taken from a manga, right and was a perfect choice for this show. It was all noir film techniques, alternating fast action with slow emotional moments. And the acting with just eye movements - marvelous. The story between the two men, one a redemption arc and the other the slow descent into madness. Loved how the police were so inept til the last episode, when it mattered, and then they succeeded, which was much more shocking. The whole thing was beautifully written, directed and acted.

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Growingbeautifully

October 2, 2015 at 5:12 PM

@pala2

Interesting take on Gaksital. That's why I still watch, although I balk at the over-the-topness of the appearance of the show. :)

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26 Sera The Ms Temper

October 2, 2015 at 8:56 AM

I will spend sometime on weekend to watch Noble My Love. I want to watch SungHoon again in a new drama. Lol can't believe I finished watching A New Tale of Gisaeng just because of SungHoon???

Having a YongPal withdrawal symptoms, this drama sure have haters and lovers but I don't care? I am preparing myself to watch secret of achiara next wee . Hopefully it would be great!

Twenty Again : Can't wait to watch it tomorrow. Perfect drama to spend on weekend,?

She Was Pretty : I am watching but just for fun. Nothing really attract me, or made this drama special but I like Park So Joon and SiWon. I just prefer HwangJeungEum in melodrama. Can't brain her character here?

I Have A Lover : It was so painful because it was cancelled last week. ? hopefully this week epi will be subbed faster.?

Happy Friday!

I just want to talk She Was Pretty for a minute. Let’s count the many things that make a kdrama a kdrama that have shown up in SWP:

The sentimental meaning behind passcodes
Wishing on an eyelash
Comforting back patting
White truck of doom (After all, the two leads were crouching in the middle of the road in the rain – who could pass up that opportunity)?
Childhood mother related trauma
“Ugly” stepmother
“That scared me.”
Misunderstandings (Nothing else serves as a kdrama catalyst more than this)
Lies – more than misunderstandings
Cold CEO
Warm chaebol posing as an everyday worker
The meaning behind those ever so high heels
Bromance
The less common but equally lovable Womance
The relationship umbrella
The secret expressions of “care” – How utterly adorable was that onion face that Sung Joon drew that actually looked just like him? Also, putting a bandaid on the other person, anonymously bringing porridge to the passed out sick person , etc.
I am sure there are others, feel free to add to the list.

But the thing is I LOVE them all in SWP. The four leads are killing this – it’s a lovely romcom with all the things you hate/love in it.

Ha Ri’s line of the day: “It’s my goddess philosophy - I have to have everything I love.” Here's to keeping the womance alive and well and honest. Hye Jin and Ha Ri, you can do it! ♥

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john

October 2, 2015 at 9:36 AM

owl ~

I laughed when I saw the Truck of Doom headed for our couple.

Add the ever present Pojangmacha. So many romances have much to thank or blame on the drinking escapades that take place in the tents.

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owl

October 2, 2015 at 11:41 AM

Like Lucy's 5 cent psychiatrist's booth, one pours out one's soul at the soju tent revealing all to the listener, but the advice is mostly worth what it cost. No one remembers anything the next day, anyway.

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October 2, 2015 at 10:19 AM

uncaring siblings
secret crush
pulling someone out of harms way landing her in your arms
eccentric boss
three months rule
going on a trip together
thoughtfully standing in front of the mirror half naked

but to weigh those up there are also new things:

seemingly cool guy being all absent-minded and dorky when he is concentrating hard
and I especially like that Shin Hyuk is nonchalant about doing all those ridiculous- pervy-weird things. usually drama characters are so uptight and restricted and go by rules or at least think twice, but he is like ... "Whatever! Oh, a spoiled kimbap! Oh, underwear!"
face mask with cat stasche haha

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owl

October 2, 2015 at 10:50 AM

Shin Hyuk is the comic relief in the very best sense. Also the catalyst for getting the truth out between Hye Jin and Seol Joon (although what in the world is his secret?) He was soooo awesome as the fake boyfriend and waited with Ha Ri for the no-show guy she wanted to send the "I'm with someone else" message to. Siwon is just great at this role (as he was in King of Dramas).

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pogo

October 2, 2015 at 10:36 AM

lol the Truck of Doom.

I wonder, I was thinking it's Ms. Ciao herself.

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October 2, 2015 at 7:24 PM

I thought of it as 'fever' mainly due to the revived psychological trauma. I'm not sure I've ever had proper fever from extreme stress, but I certainly did have all the symptoms on several occasions (i.e. shivering, cold, not being able to stand, burning body as if i had fever etc)

Lol I actually didn't think of him getting sick that badly because he was exposed to rain. I should have, it's such a cliche.

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October 3, 2015 at 8:18 PM

The whole office putting on face masks when Hye Jin was sneezing was a funny bit.

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October 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM

The shoulder dislocating arm/wrist grabs reminded me of a scene in Full House Take 2 in which No Min-woo had a dislocated arm after being grabbed into merry-go-round spin with a kid, he was later treated by Hwang Jung-eum with a heavy-handed twist of the arm, that whole scene was funny! :)

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October 2, 2015 at 10:25 AM

So what's a good currently airing drama to watch?

Nothing interests me lately since I Remember You ended so I knida a need something to watch that's currently airing :)

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Growingbeautifully

October 2, 2015 at 5:06 PM

@ LJH ?

The only one I am still sure enough of, to recommend, is Twenty Again. It is showing Episode 11 and 12 now which is past the half-way mark and is overall good. Just get past the first 4 episodes and you're in 'happy' territory. :)

October 3, 2015 at 2:43 AM

It's good, isn't it? Obviously, in a drama of this length, there are a couple of missteps along the way, but, generally, this is one of the best Korean dramas I've seen. However, my Korean tutor, who is a big fan of family oriented daily dramas, didn't like it at all.

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31 Indiiea

October 2, 2015 at 11:17 AM

At the moment I feel a little bit lost in what to watch after finishing Oh My Ghostess. I laughed a lot and loved the acting, and both the chemistry and skinskip between the leads. I hadn't read anything about it before, but I was saying to myself from episode 3 that Sung-jae was a creep.

I've decided to try I Remember You but sadly I've seen a few spoilers and I haven't finished the first episode.

Otherwise I might finish Nice Guy or Sercret (tried it after KMHM. It feels like a dramatic plot I might enjoy, but I couldn't get through the first episode. It felt slow and I kind of disliked HJE's character... Should give it another try, since sometimes you need to get trough that first episode to enjoy it)

All the rest feels like a lot of waiting -- either I'm waiting for the next episode (Twenty Again, watched it all in a day. You go No Ra!) subs, (D-Day, though they have finished EP 4 now) or the premiere. I'm currently interested in Sassy Go Go, Village and Reply 1988.

LOL, true. Granny, kids and grand kid all have love lines there.
It's a slow, but ok. I love watching the sisterhood of the 2 women: the wife and the mistress, slowly evolved throughout the drama.

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juniper

October 2, 2015 at 1:22 PM

lol missed that one! Just wish the grandma could be the heroine for once instead of a side character, that's all.

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October 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM

I love Mother! One of my very very favorite movies.

SPOILERS

ALERT

So I typed this long reply to your comment then it disappeared on me :(.

I have so many thoughts that I sometimes confused myself lol. Can a mentally ill person kill someone intentionally? It was clear that she provoked him.

Bong Joon Ho is such an amazing director I felt traces of Memories of Murder here and there and I love the fact that nothing is clear except for a mother that would do anything for her son.

At first I was a bit judgemental with the ending because I felt that they both did wrong and there was no justice for the girl and an innocent person went to jail but it worked out from the mother's perspective. If she dies, go to jail, remember etc her son will die so she chose to save him and I finally understood why she did what she did.

You a going to love Poetry too. It was inspired by a rl event. Can't wait to hear what you think about it.

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October 2, 2015 at 4:06 PM

I think you're right. It's funny, but I feel like I'd be interested in watching dramas about older people for similar reasons to old people who want to watch about younger people. idk, I think it comes from my desire as a young person to confront the idea of aging, to see the beauty in parts of life I have yet to experience, get some kind of reassurance/perspective on life that can only come with age, etc. Plus I just think old people are adorable haha.

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merry

October 3, 2015 at 7:18 AM

That's a nice sentiment @juniper. I think we should have friends across age-group really. when i was in my early 30s, i'd hang out with consultants who were late 40s to 50s. then as the years we actively worked together. Now i think that the enjoyable parts of my career were those where i was the youngest. Now, finding old people adorable, please enjoy that. as years advance, there are many who can turn quite grumpy, hence that great age divide.

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October 3, 2015 at 11:11 AM

haha I'm pretty grumpy as a young person so I can only imagine how much worse I'm going to get as I grow older. But I agree! Making friends with people of different ages is great and gives you a lot of perspective on life. It sounds like you had a good relationship with your coworkers :) As for me, I've always had an easier time getting along with people much older than me, than people my own age.

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October 2, 2015 at 12:34 PM

Why would anyone do that? (WTH moments in K-dramas)

My latest rant is about a couple of really weird things that show up in almost every k-drama.

1. Fighting/arguing over who will carry the grocery bag, food, or boiling pots of noodles. This nearly always results in the groceries rolling down the street, the food being spilled (along with the usual broken dish that seems almost supernatural in it's ability to inflict damage to the heroin roughly equal to a paper cut from origami. which then results in a trip to the hospital or breaking out the huge first aid kit).

The absolute stupidest example I have seen of this was in episode 8 of "I am your (idiot) teacher", where he was fighting over who should move the pot of boiling noodles from the counter to the table, about 4 feet away. This of course resulted in him spilling boiling noodles all over his hands.

October 2, 2015 at 8:23 PM

Good point. Korean peripheral vision is almost zero.

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October 2, 2015 at 11:49 PM

Like when you never see the person you've been searching for forever walking the other way across the street because of the near-zero peripheral vision.

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October 2, 2015 at 1:51 PM

1. Fighting/arguing over who will carry the grocery bag, food, or boiling pots of noodles. This nearly always results in the groceries rolling down the street, the food being spilled (along with the usual broken dish that seems almost supernatural in it’s ability to inflict damage to the heroin roughly equal to a paper cut from origami. which then results in a trip to the hospital or breaking out the huge first aid kit).

Well, the fight over some duties, again, is, per se, a valid social statement. It happens a lot in real life, even though mostly with less "visual" situations (and unfortunately, writers are lazy). A more dialogue-y form is the "formal/informal" language discussion.

The hospital trip that follows in case of a tiny injury here (or from several other overused tropes), however ...
I'm at loss. I sincerely don't understand the concept of K-drama healthcare.

(1) Food. Healthy food is extremely important. And by healthy food, K-drama means traditional Korean food. Foreign food, while being expensive, makes you sick. Ramyeon, while being romantic (or indicating hard working characters), makes you ugly.
Not eating huge amounts of food for every meal makes you collapse from malnutrition. And every second meal -- even Korean traditional food -- will cause indigestion.

(2) Booze. Drinking a lot is extremely important for your health. If you don't drink two bottles of soju every night, something is wrong with you. Three bottles of soju, on the other hand, are very unhealthy. Make sure you never drink alone, because drinking alone can cause drunkenness and plot points.

If you end up dead drunk in a police station or hospital too often, this is a sign that you need to improve your social circle. Some people might think that they should cut back on the booze, but they are wrong.
You didn't end up unconscious in the hospital because you drank too much but because you don't have enough friends who piggy-back you to your house.

(3) Minor injuries. Minor injuries like paper cuts are lethal, they need to be treated immediately. Your boss will understand that you have to rush to the next hospital. Your baby daughter can stay alone at home for a few hours. Your life is in danger here. Make sure that the person who treats you is of opposite sex.

(4) Serious diseases like, say, liver cirrhosis don't need medical attention. Something like liver cirrhosis is bad luck, but there is nothing you can do to prevent it from happening anyway (especially nothing in relation to point (2) above). You should save the money from medical screening, never mention treatment, as this money is needed to treat your children's frequent paper cuts. If you happen to be forced into a medical check-up and the doctor finds some disease, just die peacefully in a corner without telling your family and loved ones. Because that's what trust means.

2. Family members that walk in or come home and demand...

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October 2, 2015 at 4:51 PM

More excellent points. The problem I - and probably many other non-Koreans - have is: How much is actually real? I am sure the "bring me water" thing is to enforce some kind of social hierarchy, but how can it still persist in this day and age?

On the other hand, an editorial I read in a Korean paper called Korea "The last bastion of rampant 19th century Confucianism.". I suspect that plays into a lot of these common tropes.

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Jon G.

October 2, 2015 at 1:52 PM

2. Family members that walk in or come home and demand that someone get them a glass of water. In several instances I have seen this happen when the person asking was standing right next to the glasses and the water bottle (which is always filled from bottled water, never tap water). And then of course it has to be served on a tray. Who in hell would ever bother to put a glass of water on a tray to carry it 10 feet for some domineering ass that can’t just reach over and pour his own water?

Well, the "tap water" thingy depends on the quality of the tap water, of course. There are some countries, even developed countries, that do not provide drinking water quality in their tap water reliably. Not sure about South Korea though ...

Very often, the "bring me water" scene seems very similar to a "bring me a bear" scene from 20th century western media: social role setup.

October 2, 2015 at 5:08 PM

Yes the tap water is very good in Korea, and yet most people don't trust it and won't drink it. I did, and it was absolutely fine, tasted as pleasant and fresh as the water in the UK

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Growingbeautifully

October 2, 2015 at 4:54 PM

You know, just this morning my husband had to apply a plaster to his chest and he did it all by himself with the help of a mirror. I just sat a few metres away and had my breakfast LOL. And of course I thought and I'm sure many of you may be thinking.... in kdramas, that would have been the golden opportunity for the female lead to lean in and carefully apply the plaster so that her face is inches away from the male leads. LOLOL! Is it fortunate or not that my husband does not watch kdramas??? :D

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October 2, 2015 at 8:18 PM

The fun comes when someone rips off that plaster.

October 2, 2015 at 9:08 PM

Show him the love, kdrama way, GB. And give him your cold the real life way ?

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October 3, 2015 at 1:33 AM

LOLOL! *Aaaah Chooo!!!*

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October 3, 2015 at 1:35 AM

Next time @merry, next time... even if it's to go on an easily accessible knee I'll grab that plaster and say he has no idea how to do it right! I can imagine the look on his face! LOL!

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October 3, 2015 at 7:23 AM

yes, @GB, do that. it will be nice to have a chronicle of kdrama moments. oops, that sounds like a kdrama title in itself. I am sure that after so many years of watching, even some of our mannerisms would be acquired from k dramas. I for one find myself bowing from the waist to thank people.

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October 3, 2015 at 8:41 AM

@ merry :D

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October 2, 2015 at 6:59 PM

I don't think it's ever a daughter who demands to be served a glass of water, right? Unless there are servants lol.

I think it must be considered rude to put a cup or glass down in front of someone, beverages always come on trays in Korea even in the workplace. Although from dramas it does look like westernized coffee shops have changed that.

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34 dramamama

October 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM

Chinese/Taiwanese drama recommendations:

For contemporary dramas, try Queen of SOP - it stars the same male lead as Boss & Me, & features a similar office romance setting. Also very light & breezy.

Try My Sunshine for a nice take on how an estranged college couple meet again as adults. I enjoyed the college flashbacks more than the reunion though.

Try also Taiwanese drama "In a Good way" - it's like the Taiwanese version of Reply 1994/7 in a college setting. Sweet romance, a wonderful bunch of college friends, and great character development. The only thing I didnt like much about the show was how the pacing slowed considerably after the leads get together. But they do take quite a while to get together.

Another cute Taiwanese rom com is Pleasantly Surprised. The acting is average, but there is lovely chemistry between the leads and it's set in a restaurant (yay!). The female lead also isn't your typical Candy heroine and the male lead is really, really cute.

For period dramas/ chinese sageuk:
Try Zhen huan zhuan (Legend of zhen huan) - one of the most exquisitely produced period dramas in dramaland. Lovely set design, great acting all around, and lots and lots of palace intrigue.

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October 2, 2015 at 8:09 PM

Although I'm kind of hesitant with the recommendations, a few oldies

Down With Love - starring Jerry Yan and Ella Chen who have absolutely lovely chemistry. He starts out as the typical mean male lead, but only in the very beginning, throughout the rest of the show he's actually like the typical lovable, supportive second lead, and it's delightful. And sigh, he really is gorgeous in that show.

My Lucky Star - this one is old-school, kind of 'soapy', with a lot of unpredictable twists and turns, but very cute and extremely addictive. Only when the last ep is over, does one realize how well the whole thing was done. It's like a light, rom-com version of autumn concerto, in fact I had to check if the writers were the same, and it turned out that they're not and that my lucky star was made before autumn concerto.

Really hesitant with this one but I think it's sooo underrated - I want to become a hard persimmon. The main lead was a 17 y.o. rookie so his acting is not good, and the 2nd couple was pretty boring to me, but the unexpected OTP (really not obvious from the start, and i think it's worth mentioning/spoiling b/c people might give up before it happens, and that's when the show becomes good) was EXPLOSIVE, and the way their relationship developed absolutely riveting! I think it's the only true alpha female-beta male show that I've ever seen. All those who liked Hi my sweetheart with show luo and rainie should give this one a try to see how many elements were copied. I should point out however that as it progresses you'll be crying a lot, and by the time it ends you'll want to slap it first, and then hug it :)

October 8, 2015 at 2:37 AM

I mean for the drama 'I want to become a hard persimmon.'

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October 8, 2015 at 2:15 AM

Great! Thank you so much for these recommendations.

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35 newgirl

October 2, 2015 at 10:27 PM

Always late to the party...looks like all the other guests have gone home. I'll just sip from this leftover half-bottle of soju. Sigh. [Actually gets up to make a bloody mary.]

Kdramaland drought continues, so I filled in the time with some British documentaries about fancy houses and gardens, then marathoned Twenty Again and kept up with She Was Pretty. The combination of these three before bedtime made for some weird dreams. Apparently deep down I think that I'm a lost heir to a fabulous British estate, and my would-be husband Lee Sang-yoon is over there waiting for me, if only I can find the proper documents! In my dreams!

Must return to dreamland soon, because tomorrow morning I need to get up early to go shovel elephant poop. That's right, elephant poop! I actually won a lottery to go to the local zoo and shovel composted poop into my truck to be placed lovingly on my flower beds and lawns later. It's a thing here; very popular. People are crazy about gardening, and I haven't had much luck with my nutrient-depleted soil, so am hoping this does the trick. I tried to recruit others to come help shovel, but no luck there. I can't imagine why! And I'm sure the neighbors are going to love the delicate aroma! But hey, with any luck and a little rain, next spring it's going to look like my British estate!

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October 2, 2015 at 10:54 PM

I started watching korean drama specials on You Tube. they are only an hour long tv movie. I've watched some pretty nice ones.

What is the Ghost Up To?
Middle School Student A
The Dirge Singer
Bride in Sneakers
Happy Rose Day

October 3, 2015 at 5:17 AM

@redfox

Which one? You mean the first one in which you asked a couple of questions?

Your blog? - Since it is yours, write what you love. You make felts, how about a section on that with pictures of your work.

You do some writing - how about sharing a bit of your storylines, or get more plot points or ideas from your readers?

How about covering dramas that DB doesn't? Short summaries or little reviews?

As for dramas that improved... I sadly have not noticed improvement in 2nd halves of shows much. There might have been one I thought of at the time, but I cannot recall it now!!! Sorry. :)

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October 3, 2015 at 5:28 PM

Sorry, I'm too tired from shoveling elephant poop to have any answers for you right now. :)

But I do have a question: A while back you put in a link to (or at least the name of) your Facebook page for your felted wool creations. I can't remember it, and have been searching in vain. Would you mind reminding me? I loved it!
Thank you, redfox!

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October 3, 2015 at 11:07 PM

https://www.facebook.com/FabulousFelts

October 8, 2015 at 2:07 AM

my step-mom just bought a stunning green BMW 3 Series Convertible by work part-time using a laptop... read the full info here...---->> www.banknow54.com

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