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Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People: Episode 27

Now that there’s only one more family member to rescue from behind enemy lines, we know that the impending reunion between our married couple will be heartbreaking (if the first episode was any indication), so it’s time to start bracing ourselves. Unfortunately for our hero, despite the people rallying to his side, they’re still the underdogs in the fight against Yeonsangun’s violence-driven control of the nation.

 
EPISODE 27 RECAP

The people shout as they come to save Gil-dong and the rest of his men from the royal forces, “We’ll come to your rescue this time, General.” With an expression mixed with gratefulness and awe at the miraculous salvation, they begin fighting again with a reinvigorated fervor, and soon the royal army turns back to retreat with their tails tucked between their legs.

When the general comes to report his crushing defeat against the rebel army, Yeonsangun sits in his throne room clearly upset at this new development. His courtiers cower while his general delivers the disappointing news, and when the king hears that it’s Gil-dong leading the rebel army, he becomes infuriated.

After the end of the battle, despite their victory, many have been injured and some have even lost their lives, including the man that Gil-dong once personally encouraged (who later led the rescue efforts that saved the rebel army). Gil-dong and the Hong band stand in front of the graves of the fallen, and he resolves: “I will never forget you.”

Back at the cave, people are being treated for their injuries, including some of the more experienced members of the Hong brotherhood. Eorini sees Yonggae being bandaged up, and tears come to her eyes as she first witnesses the tolls of battle on the closest thing to an uncle-like figure in her life. She reaches out to hold his hand, and despite the pain, he grits his teeth, smiles, and welcomes her back.

Alone, Gil-dong ponders words that Yeonsangun said to him in prison regarding violence and how to control the citizenry. While he’s lost in deep thought, Gil-hyun comes up to him, and when he sees his brother, Gil-dong playfully says that he’s fallen a long way from being a close advisor to the king to the nation’s most wanted traitor.

Gil-hyun replies that it’s just his luck for having such a rascal for a little brother, and then Eorini joins them. She covers Gil-dong’s eyes with her hands, and it’s an instant deja vu moment back to the days when life was simpler at Ikhwari, under Amogae’s protective presence.

It’s been such a long time since this familiar action, and it makes Gil-dong emotional, but he replies as he always does and asks if it’s Ugly Girl (“Motnani” is an affectionate term that connotes ugliness) who’s covering his eyes. Soon, the rest of the original Amogae Avengers show up, and together they all call up to Amogae to thank him for reuniting their family.

At the palace, the king meets with Scholar Song only to tell him not to come into his royal presence for the time being (as he’s still annoyed by the Park Ha-sung/Gil-hyun revelation). He assigns Choongwongoon to be his temporary replacement as the head of the Sugwidan.

After they leave the king, Scholar Song expresses his discontent at Choongwongoon’s uppity behavior against him, but there doesn’t seem to be any remnant of loyalty in that quarter. Choongwongoon just coldly tells the scholar that he seems to be forgetting his place and forgetting the fact that Choongwongoon was born a royal, implying that this role reversal should have been the original relationship dynamic all along.

When Choongwongoon gathers the Sugwidan members in a meeting, he pushes his own agenda to isolate and expel Scholar Song from the organization. To his fellow Sugwidan members, he tells them that Scholar Song is no longer in favor because of his mistake with Park Ha-sung, adding that they need to find Gil-dong in order to regain the king’s favor and stay safe under the bloody tyrant’s reign.

In Hyangjumok, some young students post up flyers that spread ideas protesting the king’s unjust actions. However, they’re caught by soldiers who chase after them. One young man manages to get back home, and his mother reprimands her son, telling him not to engage in any activities that are against the king, no matter how unfair his actions may seem. He quickly makes his excuses to go hide further inside the house, but soon the soldiers barge in and forcefully take him away to the mother’s great distress.

Tracking down the other students, soldiers raid anywhere that seems to be a hiding place. One young woman makes the mistake of glancing to the large jar containing one of the young men who posted the flyers. He’s immediately taken, tied up, and the group of women who hid him are also dragged along. When people try to free them, they’re beaten and even killed by the soldiers in broad daylight on public streets.

Meanwhile, Gil-dong and his crew are still back at their lair discussing how to best go about the situation, which looks dire because of the king’s endless troops and resources. Then, Yonggae explains his own personal story, saying that his one goal in life was not to die like his own father, a poor thief hanged for his crimes.

He says that he enjoyed living the high life of a rich merchant when they were in Ikhwari as well as Hanyang, but he knew that they had turned a blind eye to the citizens, and so he says they have a duty to go to Hyangjumok and rescue them. Yonggae continues by saying that he doesn’t see this rescue as being an optional endeavor—he’s doing this in order to repay a long-time debt. His speech puts the entire situation in a different perspective for Gil-dong an the rest of the Hong brothers.

Finally sparking on an idea, Gil-dong approaches one of the women, whose eyes become wide at the fact that the general is speaking with little ol’ her. He tells her his plan, and although she looks a little starstruck at first, she quickly gets the gist and helps implement it.

His plan is to use the women to smuggle their weapons into Hyangjumok so that they can conquer from the inside out. Hyangjumok’s version of the TSA is not gender-equal since they only give men the full pat-down, which means that the women are able to hide the swords and knives in their skirts.

Eorini, wanting to do her part for the rebel effort, joins the women and pads several weapons in her underskirt, although Uncle Soboori protests. He tries to persuade her from it, thinking it’s too dangerous, and he even tries to get Gil-dong and Gil-hyun to help him. However, they just laugh, having given up, and say that she’ll still do what she wants to because that stubborn side of her, inherited from Amogae, exists in all of them.

In the magistrate’s courtyard, citizens and students alike have been rounded up and beaten. They kneel in front of the soldiers who begin an unfair investigation to find out the “truth.” They ask who’s behind the spread of the rebellious propaganda, and when a woman refuses to name any names, she’s immediately slashed down by the guard behind her.

Seeing her being killed right in front of their eyes, the people rally to stop the soldiers, but without weapons, they’re all ruthlessly cut down. And just as they’re about to lose all hope, Gil-dong strides in with the Hong brothers to the rescue. As Gil-dong makes the king’s soldiers retreat, he tells them to send this message to the king: “Hyangjumok doesn’t need soldiers that kill its citizens.”

Gil-dong and crew fight and defeat the soldiers, but at the end of the takeover, it almost seems like an empty victory because they’re standing in a sea of dead bodies. Although the citizens call for others to come out now that the battle is finished, no one else appears because half are lying dead at their feet.

Later, the bodies are organized in rows, some covered in white shrouds, others still just bloody. The mother who nagged at her son not to go against the king finds her beloved son in the midst of the still corpses and weeps her heart out.

When Yeonsangun hears that his soldiers in Hyangjumok have also been defeated by Gil-dong, he laughs at the absurdity. But it’s definitely not a joking-ha-ha-type laughter; it’s an angry chuckle that promises revenge. When Jeong-hak offers his life in return for his failure to capture Gil-dong, Yeonsangun is very tempted to kill him. But someone calls him, bringing him to his senses and preventing him from doing so. Instead, the king says to Jeong-hak that he’s only alive through the grace of his mother’s initial good deed of telling Yeonsangun about the deposed queen.

Jeong-hak tells Yeonsangun that he will willingly die for him on the battlefield by confronting Gil-dong. The king asks him whether he has an army willing to die for him like Park Ha Sung/Gil-hyun does, but Jeong-hak replies in the negative, giving an alternative answer that pleases the king.

Jeong-hak says that while he may not have an army loyal to himself, he does have an army that’s only loyal to the king. So, he’s dispatched to confront Gil-dong at Hyangjumok, and Mistress Jo tells Jeong-hak not to come back until he’s killed Gil-dong, otherwise he’d be dishonoring her and his late father. An immense force lead by Jeong-hak and Mori then heads to Hyangjumok.

People gather in Hyangjumok to debate their situation: A speaker stands up and asks the crowd whether they think they’re really committing treason by complaining about being forced to pay exorbitant taxes, having their land taken away, and their daughters forced into the king’s harem. Surely, these are reasonable complaints that don’t pass the boundary to treachery. But another man rebuts with the practical argument: The people of Hyangjumok are helpless—they have no way to fight against the relentless influx of royal troops.

The mother who lost her son through this past incursion then rises and tells the people that her biggest regret is letting her son learn to read, because that’s where he got the ideas of becoming an honorable man. When he saw the injustices being perpetrated by the king, she adds, he became motivated to do something about it, and was thus killed for his actions. In a powerful statement, Segul adds on that they aren’t choosing to pick a fight—they’re just fighting in order to not be killed.

Jeong-hak arrives at Hyangjumok with a formidable battalion of soldiers behind him, and he shouts for a parlay before they actually begin battle. Gil-dong and Gil-hyun descend from the gate to face Jeong-hak and Mori. The scene is absolutely delicious in a meta sense, because the four-way meeting is shown like a mirrored image of foils: We see the two scholars, one slave-born and one noble-born with Gil-hyun against Jeong-hak and the two Mighty Children—one choosing the right path and one choosing the wrong one with Gil-dong against Mori.

Despite Jeong-hak wanting to lord over the fact that Gil-dong and Gil-hyun were once his father’s slaves, Gil-hyun just smirks because he knows now that social birth is not an indicator of potential, especially since he (as Park Ha-sung) was able to rise much higher than Jeong-hak when they still worked together for the king. Needless to say, the discussion doesn’t end well, and the battle begins.

Meanwhile, the king is at the palace playing catch-me with his musical troupe girls. Nok-soo and Ga-ryung watch from the side, not participating in the jarringly playful festivities. For the first time, they have a real discussion about Gil-dong, the man both of them love.

From Ga-ryung, Nok-soo learns that Gil-dong did come back for her, and that he pined for her for a long time. However, Ga-ryung won him over because she patiently waited for him. Still perhaps a little insecure about Gil-dong’s love for her, Ga-ryung says some hurtful things to Nok-soo, saying that perhaps she was the main reason that Ga-ryung ended up with Gil-dong. When she’s back alone in her room, Ga-ryung confesses aloud that she’s jealous of Gil-dong’s powerful and passionate past love for Nok-soo.

In Hyangjumok, there’s an air of hopefulness despite all the recent tragedy, and the people gather to help each other for the communal good. Ilchung brings up the need for medical supplies, and everyone pitches in ideas about how to procure them. Because they’re scarce on herbs, they organize groups to go gather them. Because they’re low on food, they decide to share amongst each other.

But the king’s soldiers have destroyed all the roads that lead to Hyangjumok and have spread false rumors about how all the people there are liars and thieves. So unfortunately, the rest of the Joseon people don’t know about their plight and can’t/won’t come to their rescue.

In the palace gardens, Nok-soo and Ga-ryung have another discussion where Nok-soo comments to Ga-ryung that love is a passing fancy, but this just makes Ga-ryung angry. Having witnessed the deepness of Gil-dong’s longing for her, and having painfully experienced the one-sided love of one who loves another, Ga-ryung can’t understand how Nok-soo can be so cavalier about her time with Gil-dong.

The jealousy bug strikes again, and Ga-ryung pointedly retorts that it must be so, because Yeonsangun has stopped visiting Nok-soo’s chambers. This remark tips Nok-soo into a highly dangerous mood, and she lashes out, asking whether Ga-ryung would be equally as impertinent if her life were put on the line. She replies that she stopped being afraid of death when Gil-dong died.

Nok-soo resolves to meet the king again, despite his direct orders not to come near him for the time being. She explains to Wolhamae that the king doesn’t actually want her dead because if he did, he would have executed her already. And while she can withstand insults about her character and her person, she hates being told her choices were wrong, which is essentially what Ga-ryung said by implying that not waiting for Gil-dong was a mistake.

When the king is walking down the hallway, Nok-soo kneels in front of him and begs his forgiveness, confessing her previous relationship with Gil-dong. He grabs her in a stranglehold, but she looks straight into his eyes, promises him that she knows another way to catch the thief, and asks if he’ll trust her when Gil-dong is caught. He looks furious, but the scene cuts to Ga-ryung being taken away, so it looks like Yeonsangun decided to listen to Nok-soo after all.

Ga-ryung is dragged in front of the king, who demands for her to reveal everything. She says that she’ll tell him the absolute truth, but requests that he come nearer to her. Once he’s a few inches from her, she goes toward him as if she is going to whisper in his ear, and he leans in.

However, instead of telling him anything, she bites down on his ear so fiercely that blood is drawn. He stumbles back in shock, and she lets out a crazed laugh about how he is the beast that killed her husband, which causes Yeonsangun to become angry again. In a moment of fury, he wants to chop off her head, but Nok-soo reminds him that they need to use Ga-ryung effectively, and in order to do that, they need to keep her alive.

Nok-soo visits Ga-ryung in prison, and she finally lets Ga-ryung know that Gil-dong is alive. She tells her that she’s fine no matter how the scenario turns out—it’s a win-win situation for her, because if Gil-dong loves Ga-ryung, he’ll lose the battle, and if Gil-dong sacrifices Ga-ryung for the battle, then it’s a validation that Ga-ryung isn’t as important to him as perhaps Nok-soo once was. Ga-ryung is completely dazed by the news that her husband is alive, but once she realizes the implications of that, she calls out futilely to Nok-soo.

However, the meeting took more of a toll on Nok-soo than she let on to Ga-ryung, because her eyes are watery when she comes out. Wolhamae asks why she’s crying, and Nok-soo doesn’t answer, but it’s like she is mourning the last vestiges of her humanity that she’s given up by betraying both Ga-ryung and Gil-dong.

Outside, a soldier keeps repeating for Hyangjumok to surrender, and in order to drown out his cries, the people begin to sing. Soon, everyone joins in, including commoner soldiers from the king’s army. Through song, the people gain courage to move to their assigned tasks, whether it be standing at arms or evacuating the weak and infirm.

An epic battle ensues with arrows, cannons, and spears all thrown in the midst. Gil-dong is at the front and defends the wall by shouting orders to the archers. When a battering ram comes close, jugs of flammable alcohol and fiery arrows are shot down, and the soldiers scream below. But they keep coming closer to scale the wall with ladders while continuing to fight on ground. While there are massive casualties on both sides, at the end of the day, Gil-dong is successful in protecting the wall.

Yeonsangun is disappointed to learn that Hyangjumok has not fallen, and decides that if he wants a job done right, he has to do it himself. He announces that he will be going on a people-hunting expedition to Hyangjumok, and he expects a large retinue of entertainers as well as troops from every province to support him.

Back at Hyangjumok, Jeong-hak blows up at Mori for not being able to open up the gate doors when he’s notified of Yeonsangun’s arrival. The king says he’s brought a present that will make Jeong-hak’s task easier—and to Mori’s surprise, when he peers into the darkened cage, he sees Ga-ryung gagged and cuffed.

Later, she’s tied up in the prisoner’s tent to the central pole, and he goes to free her of her bindings to give her some breathing room. But as soon as she’s taken off the pole, she tries to commit suicide by ramming her body toward a pitchfork and slamming her head against any hard surface she can find. Taken aback, Mori stops her, and between tears, she explains the situation. She asks him to kill her because she needs to die without Gil-dong knowing so that he won’t be faced with an unsolvable dilemma.

Gil-dong walks the ramparts, looking over the hurt men and surveying the scene. But he’s also tired, so he sits down and dozes off in a moment of fatigue, and he dreams of Ga-ryung.

In his dream they’re in a field, and she holds flowers to his nose while gazing up at him lovingly. She tells him: “I’m coming to see you soon, but don’t be surprised at what state you find me in. You have to promise to do as I say.”

Before he can respond properly to her, he wakes up. She’s gone, and it’s Eorini holding flowers in her place. His sister vaguely mentions that she remembers an unni at the palace (referring to Ga-ryung) who had been kind to her. It’s a foreshadowing of what’s to come, because in that moment, Keutsae tells Gil-dong that he needs to come quickly.

When he gets to the central outer gate, Gil-dong sees his wife again: Ga-ryung has been blindfolded and strung up to a post facing the Hyangjumok. She screams to him: “If you stop because of me, I’ll never see you again!”

He shouts her name, and it’s the first real confirmation that she has that he’s alive. It’s a bittersweet moment as she feels simultaneous joy at finding him again and despair at their current situation. They shout and cry in deep longing and sorrow for each other while Yeonsangun watches with great relish at the scene unfolding, eagerly anticipating his enemy’s anguish.

 
COMMENTS

From the beginning, we knew that it would come to this, but I didn’t really think the writers would carry it through without providing at least a small escape route. I care for Ga-ryung and Nok-soo’s arc so much more than this Yeonsangun—Gil-dong business, which has been dragging out forever. However, I did think that the whole jealousy issue that occurred in their two conversations together wasn’t done with the subtle touch that their previous scenes together had displayed. For a long time, I thought that Nok-soo’s main motivation was surviving the long game, but after this episode, I’m starting to be confused as to what her real reasons for her actions are.

Logically, her offering Ga-ryung to Yeonsangun as bait for Gil-dong doesn’t make sense because it seems like she still holds Gil-dong in affection, and this could get him killed. Did that remaining affection die when Ga-ryung announced that he had married her? Perhaps jealousy propelled her as well, but from the way she phrased it to Wolhamae, it seemed more like she can’t stand the idea that she could be wrong, and that’s making her commit these atrocities. As for Ga-ryung, she has grown from one of the side-fringe characters to one of the main emotional centers of the drama, so I really don’t want her to die. (I’m crossing my fingers that maybe Mori will come to the rescue and they’ll ride off into the sunset together after Gil-dong dies in mortal combat with Yeonsangun.)

Does anyone feel like they were somehow unknowingly and gradually transitioned from a must-watch sageuk to a slightly less captivating but still interesting one? Perhaps it’s the length of the run time, but Rebel feels like it was initially an innovative drama with powerful characters that somehow got smushed together with a spinoff version with most of the same characters but not the same level of awesomeness in the latter half.

Speaking of which, most of the time Amogae’s storyline played out, his primary motivator was the manifestation of Gil-dong’s supernatural power. Even up to the point that Gil-dong and Eorini are captured and he loses his memory, Gil-dong displayed immense potential for physical destruction. However, in this episode, his Mighty Child strength is written off like it’s only slightly better than a normal strongman. What happened to my green-eyed Gil-dong hulk-beast? At the beginning, they kind of explored themes of identity when Gil-dong didn’t want to use his powers and suppressed them unconsciously because he didn’t want to be viewed as a beast. Those topics were highly interesting to me because it brings up questions about individuality and acceptance, which is highly applicable to even today’s society. But nope, they were never touched upon again after Gil-dong’s transformation into the “Great Elder.” Plus, are we never going to figure out what happened to the tiger in the forest? We only have three episodes left, and I’m still waiting.

All in all, it may be that the drama bit off more than it could chew. It tried to incorporate all these supernatural themes while also having a huge secondary cast with lots of screen time, which decreased the amount of time spent developing the main characters’ own stories. So what we’ve ended up with is a couple characters with complex motivations, and very many that we’re familiar with and feel are acquaintances, but to whom we have no vested interest in learning more about. But I must admit most of my near-tears moments have happened while watching the citizenry rise up and use their individually meager but collectively great might to work together with our hero to accomplish a greater goal. For instance, that scene where one woman began singing, and everyone from the Hong brothers to the shamaness to the youngest children began chiming along in a haunting melody—that was pure gold.

 
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This drama is not perfect and no matter how much I love it I have to admit it. But man, those two episodes every week just make my days n I look forward to the new adventure of team gil dong. It s gonna be so weird not to hurry back home to watch it when it ends u.u That said, finally they were reunited, I think it was abt time n I m really curious as how it s gonna unravel?

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Chae Soobin totally shined in this episode, especially in the ear- biting scene. I think I saw flashes of her evil character in Sassy Go Go.

also, #SaveGaryung2k17

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Her and Honey Lee were just gunning for all the awards in this episode lol. Seriously, like the layers to both their performances, the varied takes on their jealousy of each other was great. But I think the difference is that Ga-ryung is jealous of the past...that Gil-dong came for Nok-soo and not her, but her actions against Nok-soo come from a place of defending her husband's character who Nok-soo degrades by talking about their time in a cavalier way and Gil-dong's love as a passing fancy when in fact, Gil-dong took aaaages to let her go and refused to let himself have feelings for Ga-ryung for ages and acknowledge his own feelings. He didn't want to betray his feelings for Nok-soo.

Whereas Nok-soo was motivated by survival, her position at court, her life, and lifestyle...as well as jealousy over Ga-ryung having everything she wants/wanted, position, security and power...and the life she could have had with Gil-dong...if only she had trust and faith in him like Ga-ryung did. Because the difference between these two at the core, is Ga-ryung's faith and trust in others. It's why Ga-ryung nurtures and Nok-soo destroys.

Ga-ryung sees the good in others and is able to help them without expecting anything in return, whether it be love from Gil-dong or help/protection from Ok-ran. Nok-soo doesn't see the good in others, it's why she destroys when someone gets in the way of what she expected/wants in life. It's also why she fits in with Yeonsangun.

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It's exactly as you said - Nok-soo held on to the idea of her perfect love with Gil-dong for so long that even if she logically knows he may be married/moved on from her, she can't tolerate the idea of anything that explodes that fantasy of her being the most significant relationship in Gil-dong's life.

Which is exactly what Ga-ryung does, not only by being Gil-dong's wife, but pointing out that Nok-soo's love couldn't have been so deep after all, if she chose to not believe his promise and leave, and then Gil-dong married her, Nok-soo's former gibang maid.

I knew Nok-soo had fully crossed over to the dark side last week after she chose to keep the fact of Gil-dong's survival to herself even after knowing Ga-ryung was his wife. But even then, she chose to keep Ga-ryung's connection to Gil-dong a secret, until Ga-ryung dared to question her choices and the love in question from her end.

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Yes. She can't stand to be the fault or the reason why the relationship with Gil-dong didn't work out. Or that the relationship wasn't as meaningful as she thinks it is. Because honestly, Gil-dong was surprised to see her when he was in jail, but he wasn't like 'My one true love! Here to see me again!' It was a sort of resigned...this situation is messed up kind of thing. We basically see that Gil-dong kept his promise to Ga-ryung...that his heart would only be filled with her and it is.

And Nok-soo kept that truth from Ga-ryung for a LOOONG time until it benefited her to tell her the truth.

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Also, Nok-soo also can't stand the idea that she isn't the most significant relationship in Gil-dong's life anymore - she may well have been able to accept the idea that Gil-dong would marry after she left him, but she can't stomach the idea that his marriage wouldn't be just settling for whoever was there to fill her (Nok-soo's) absence, or that the woman he married might be more important to him than she was.

And the idea that it's Ga-ryung, of all people.... sure, she's jealous at first, but it isn't until Ga-ryung actively questions her choices (and Ga-ryung's very presence in the palace says enough about how important Gil-dong was to her/what kind of relationship they must have had) that she gives her up to the king. Of course, the jealousy made her do bad things from Day 1 - she may have kept quiet after Ga-ryung's first assassination attempt, but the minute she failed to tell her that Gil-dong was alive, it was evident which path she was going down.

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@pogo1she's just like Yeonsangun who holds onto Nok-soo like a toy and doesn't want her with anyone else.

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@cloveredlioness - I think there's one essential difference between her and Yeonsangun though - her actions take a major emotional toll on her (which is why she's in tears after leaving Ga-ryung). Yeonsangun's emotional range simply wouldn't stretch that far.

Also, it's ironic that Nok-soo is doing this to hurt two out of the only three people who genuinely cared for her (the third being Wolhamae, and Wolhamae is in no danger of ever displacing her from/ usurping what Nok-soo feels is her rightful place in anything)

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I know my girl can bring the crazy when she needs to, but this went above and beyond Sassy Go Go though she does play characters driven by trauma/sadness in both. It rather amuses me that this is the second drama in which she's been an antagonist to Kim Ji-suk's character, only this time they switched sides so he's the horrible one and she's the nice one.

Also that post-ear-biting speech was incredible, I could fully believe she and her blood-smeared mouth were going to haunt the king's nightmares for a long time.

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Omg what an awesome episode! I love love that scene when they all started singing! That was soo beautifully done. And I also hope Mori becomes good, maybe he has a plan? I want that non sop and the king to be gone!

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I really hope Moro has a plan. Please be good Mori! Maybe he has a secret bullet-proof, or in this case, arrow-proof vest. ? lol

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OH yes! Arrow proof vest! Hope so!??

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Yes, that's what I'm hoping for too! Or else why would Ga-ryung tell Gildong that he has to do what she says in order that they see each other again?
I have hopes for Mori....please be good for Ga-ryung's sake!

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Nok soo*

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Thanks for the recap, tineybeanie! Yes, I agree with you that the show is becoming slightly less captivating! I wanna see Gil-dong's Mighty Child powers again! With that power, he sure can beat the King's army!

I personally don't fancy the people singing scene, thought it was quite long (yes, this is coming from someone who doesn't like musicals...hehe). Thought I saw even some of the King's soldiers were singing along! If I were them, I'll just start attacking, why wait until the song is finished? Maybe the song mesmerized them, huh?

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In real life, we cut off our friends in the middle of a conversation. In reel life, we let our enemies finish their mother of all speeches before we stab them.

Also, do you ever wonder why a group of thugs have to wait their turn to take down the one and only good guy? They seldom attack him all at once, do they? In this aspect, zombies are better.

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lol this is true. And it ranges across fiction, from Star Wars to kdramas.

At least in this case, I think I understand why the soldiers didn't rush in right away - they were officially delivering the orders to surrender, so it was a kind of parley state since they didn't yet have orders to attack. Hence they get to let the villagers of Hyangjumok finish their song before rushing in.

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Yes, much less captivating. I'm only here because I've invested too many hours to quit this close to the end.

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I'm of a different opinion. I like the drama better and better. Only problem i have is the Mighty Child issue. There were so many instances where I was waiting for Gil-dong to use his magical powers, the way he did in a much earlier ep...just by shouting, the soldiers had all fallen down, and how he managed to fight them off with just stalks of grass. Perhaps, the writers wanted to level the playing ground.

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To be fair, Gil-dong those previous times was fighting off bands of thugs by the dozen, not an entire army of possibly thousands.

And using his powers at full berserker capacity like he did to save Eorini or Ga-ryung at Amogae's funeral, is something he can't do for long periods of time, he always ends up wiped out after and is still vulnerable to injury - with Eorini, he took down maybe the first few dozen but when there were more, he ended up overwhelmed and took three arrows to the back and nearly died. I doubt he wants that now, especially since he's facing an entire army. He doesn't have the physical strength to fight that many people.

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is it going to be a tragic ending? chae soo bin is so wonderful in this role, and the scene with their screaming exchanges was super heartbreaking...

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I'm more invested in Nok-soo Character than others since she such a well act and mysterious character. I miss her old day when she happily singing and madly in love with Gil Dong

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I just care about her ending in this drama, I know historically what her ending was but I am curious how the writer will make her ending in this drama.

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Wow that ending scene was so powerful! I loved everything about it. Cha Soo Bin is killing it in this role!

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Totally! When she bit the king's ear! That was so brave of her!

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Omg yes! I actually thought she was going to spit on him lol...biting him is good too.

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Chae Soo Bin. She's a gem.That ear-biting scene is applaudable. She fearlessly and fierce fully threatened the King that she'll visit him even in his dreams with bloods on her pale face running down her mouth to her white dress. So creepy and believable..

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I know! And I hope the King is haunted by that image for the rest of his life!

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Not what people usually mean when they talk about nibbling on someone's ear :)

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Ga-ryung vs. Yeonsangun was better than Tyson vs. Holyfield. That's what I thought, but yes, your thought is accurate too.

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Chae Soo Bin is the MVP of today episode!

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On Nok Soo- I didn't think that she would ever betray Gil dong. I thought that whatever's happens she would always side with him...at least by pretending to be on the same side as the King anyway.
So when I saw her jealousy toward Ga ryung, I was actually surprised and dare I say, disappointed in her. I get that she wanted power...but I didn't expect her to stoop so low as to use Ga ryung's love for Gil dong against him. It's like she's saying, 'If I can't have him, then you can't either'. When deep down she is probably furious with herself because she didn't wait for Gil dong when Ga ryung did. I think the fact that someone did her job just tipped her over to the baddies side. Can she be redeemed? Will she be redeemed? Do I want her to be redeemed?

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I agree with you. I definitely don't want her to be redeemed. She's horrible!

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She's there to watch Gil Dong make the worst decision of his life. I don't think there's any redemption ?

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Nok Soo's chance for redemption flew off the window the moment she kept the fact that Gil Dong has survived from Ga Ryung.

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I don't want to see her redemption. Nok Soo, in my opinion, was far gone before this episode, and I feel a redemption arc would be ill-contrived considering her fate historically.

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I'm not at all surprised Nok-soo is jealous, or that she's acting on it - she's shown herself to be ruthless in the past, in the interest of survival or payback to those who wronged her/those she feels wronged her. Also there's a difference between what she did after Gil-dong's torture and what she's doing now.

Back when Gil-dong was captured, she didn't yet know he was married, and could ignore that possibility to help him because she still felt he was 'hers'. And Nok-soo's been very possessive of his memory for years.

But when Ga-ryung comes along and reveals not only that she's Gil-dong's wife, but that she's pretty much hellbent on her last acts in the world being avenging Gil-dong's (she thinks) death, there goes Nok-soo's lovely fantasy she's held on to for all these years, that Gil-dong's heart was hers alone or that she dominated his memory the way he did hers. And her trying to laugh that off results in Ga-ryung actually getting offended on her husband's behalf and pointing out how Nok-soo is responsible for her choices that led to not her, but Ga-ryung (who made a different choice) getting married to Gil-dong. And Nok-soo has been ruthless to anyone she thinks makes her look stupid (Ok-ran with the skirt incident) or wrong about something. Ga-ryung - her former maid, no less - dared to point it out - and I'm not surprised at all that Nok-soo lashed out at this by selling her out to the king, even if she'd kept quiet before about Ga-ryung being Gil-dong's wife.

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Nok-soo has shown her capability for vengeance, ruthlessness and pettiness for a long time in this drama. It's not surprising at all she would flip. Her favour with the king lead to a minister who abused her getting punished, her punishment of Ok-ran was OTT and used to keep others in their place. Her survival is all that matters to her and if you get in the way, you're gone. And it doesn't matter what feelings she may have had for you.

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She thinks Gil-dong betrayed her first by marrying someone else and shattering her perfect image of their love. It sticks at her that Ga-ryung speaks the truth...that she was the one who ended their relationship by not believing Gil-dong's words.

Plus, when it comes down to it, Nok-soo values herself and survival above all else. That's why she kept the secret that Gil-dong was alive for so long. She was figuring out how she could best leverage it. Yes, there was the possibility for her to still save Ga-ryung. But she was just waiting to decide which side she should flip. Honestly, I think she knew immediately how she would use that info and was just waiting for justification for her actions. Ga-ryung gave her that by pointing out she could have had a life with Gil-dong but she chose differently. Ga-ryung also pointed out the stupidity of her choice in seeking out to be with a man whose whims rule him and whose violence controls everyone when she could have been with Gil-dong.

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Isn't the ending scene a bit different to what was shown in the first episode though? I remember Mori having a beard then, but he doesn't have it here. And there was no Jeong-hak or Yeonsangun in the initial scene. Inconsistency or a deliberate move?

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Maybe they didn't show Jeong-hak and Yeonsangun on purpose. But I agree with you. Mori definitely had a beard. And I think he was also standing next to where Ga ryung was tied to the post. He was the one who yelled for Gil dong to open the gates.
Literally just went to watch the first few minutes of the first episode lol.

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Thank you for confirming and saving my trouble ?

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Hahaha no worries. I was curious so I wanted to see for myself:)

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You don't know how many times I've watched that scene and yet, I have no recollection of Mori's beard ?

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I'll never forget Mori's beard in Ep1 because that's the reason why I didn't recognize him as the guard beside Ga Ryung. Until a beanie mentioned it in the earlier recap which makes me rewatched Ep1 again memorizing every part of that flashforward scene. There are some other inconsistencies aside from the beard but that's not my concern right now. I'm keep on thinking different possible plan for Mori or Gil Dong to save Ga Ryung. Or it could also be Ga Ryung planned something with Mo Ri. Hence, Gil Dong's daydream of Ga Ryung saying he should do whatever she says is a premonition. I'll declare war against the writer if Ga Ryung dies.

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Yes, I felt that way about that dream too. Why would she say Gil dong should do whatever she says? Doesn't that mean she has something up her sleeves?
*fingers crossed that it's a plan with Mori*

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Here we are, holding on to anything we could. Or should I say hoping big for Mori's important redemption ?

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You don't want him to have the beard? haha

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yup hahaha it makes him look kind of old

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Hahaha.

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I noticed that too. Even the location of the fight seems to be different. Usually I'd be criticizing the inconsistencies in a drama but I don't mind it so much here because with that Ga-ryung and Mori scene, I have hope that the writer will change that first scene. Maybe Gil-dong will still shoot his wife but I believe Mori will save her. Please...Mori!!

Anyway, the writer already changed who played Eorini earlier from Jung Da-bin to Lee Soo-min so if they change the storyline again it's kinda expected this time too, right?

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Was it originally planned Jung Da Bin as Eorini? and changed their mind halfway to Lee So Min? I'm surprised. I thought it was the writer's way of misdirecting the viewers.

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There's news about Jung Da-bin's casting as Eorini, it was stated in the Naver Rebel drama page as well.

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I don't think the writer changed it, isn't wiki page can be changed by anyone? Maybe someone made assumption that JDB is the more popular actress so he/she thought JDB was Eorini.

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That's what I thought too - that the casting of Jung Da-bin was assumed to be as older Eorini, since it's taken for granted that a totally unknown actress like Lee Soo-min wouldn't be cast in a prominent role like this when there was a more famous actress also in the cast. And of course the troll production team didn't bother to fix that mistake.

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I had thought this from episode one and maybe it’s just hopeful thinking but I am even more convinced now that somehow Gil Dong shot Ga Ryung strategically avoiding vital organs, to make it look like it was in the heart. If they think he killed her by the arrow through the heart, they can’t use her as bait and that gets her out of the battle. And then maybe Mori or someone else can get her down after. Remember the first dream HGD had of Ga Ryung with the strawberries? I think that scene was a foreshadow of HGD having to use his ability to shoot precisely without missing his target.

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OHSHITOHSHIOHSHITOHSHITEBLOODYSHITE. Mori I believe, is not that far gone in the evilness department. So there's still hope? Besides, the way Jeong-hak dismissed his assignment since he's a commoner and not a noble would leave Mori with something to gripe with when it comes to betraying Jeong-hak. Hopefully, for once Gil-dong uses his brain here, I dunno how. It frustrates me no end, that despite being the hero for the people, it is Gil-dong who somehow ends up getting rescued one way or another.

So Nok-soo did betray Ga-ryung. WHY NOK-SOO WHY???? I was hoping she would have told Ga-ryung that Gil-dong was alive, made a way for Ga-ryung to get out of the palace, no questions asked, and, when Yeonsangun finds out, in rage and retaliation for her brazenness have Ga-ryung captured and thus we end up in this scene. But apparently, that's moot already. Ack. I was still holding on to Nok-soo's sense of humanity. I dunno. History tells us that the end for Yeonsangun and Nok-soo is not that pretty. Will they make it so that Nok-soo's end is actually fitting when the time comes? So far, I can't seem to give her character that ending that history has told us, because she's not that far gone in the evilness department either. (Yes, I still love her as a character!)

No questions asked, Ga-ryung is the queen here. Looking back, I reckon Gil-dong was a wee bit of an arse before (not minding Ga-ryung and all).

I dunno how to feel about this, emotion-wise we all want a happy ending for our main characters but story-wise a happy ending would seem to contrived at this point. Ack.

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I'm holding on to the hope that Mo ri will have planned something with Ga ryung when he untied her. Although she tried to kill herself so she couldn't be bait, I think Mori felt pity for her?

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I dunno how. It frustrates me no end, that despite being the hero for the people, it is Gil-dong who somehow ends up getting rescued one way or another.

Yes, this is happening more often than I like. I'm not saying a hero does not need help or saving at times but come on, this is a rebellion and people are dying like flies.

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The body count is indeed quite high in this show.

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I low key want a happy contrived ending though. lol. Also I'm hoping that if the writer decided to open the drama with that stake scene that she must have some twists up her sleeves, right?

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Yes, keeping fingers crossed in some awesome twist or something. :)

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I can see why people start finding this less captivating, I do feel that the story has some weird pacing. Drawn out on some parts and kind of rushed on the other parts. HOWEVER, I'm amazed at how the writer managed to create such rich characters and tight plots that it makes me want to go back and watch the entire show all over again [and I will do that if it ends on a happy note]. Not to see something that I might have missed, but to see something again and realize that I'm seeing something on an entirely different level than I thought I was before.

Honestly when I started watching this I was only planning to watch it casually, but somewhere in the middle, the story and the characters just grabbed me by the collar and refused to let go, so now I just decided to let it consume my soul instead...

Anyway, back to the episode. My girl GaRyung was so badass this episode, I kept rewatching that scene where she bit YiYung's ear. And Cha Soo Bin totally nailed that stake scene (that wasn't pun intended, but oh well), I was all teary eyed by the end when I watched their sad reunion, and when I realized that I have to wait ONE WHOLE WEEK for next episode.

The arch in this episode kind of reminds me of Gwangju Uprising. I think @liina brought up this point in last recap. First, the students protest, the massacre, and then how the army blocked all routes and communications leading into and out of the village. I just hope that it won't follow the same tragic end :(

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Btw, I loved the fact that Ahn Ye Eun had a cameo this episode as one of the villagers during that singing scene! :D

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Yes ! Ga Ryung and Yeonsangun ! That was so intense, you could have stopped my heart right there girl..

(And there's no preview ! Rebel's crew is trolling us to the max !)

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Ditto the ear part! I knew it was hopeless but at least she did some damage to the king before she was taken down.

I absolutely love the character study and the plot in the beginning. However, I also expect the tension between Gil Dong and the King to up notches and it never did, except for the ending in this episode.

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yeah, Ga-ryung took my breath away - not something I could ever have predicted if I'd just seen her in early episodes, but my god does Chae Soo-bin do intensity and emotion well. This storyline has been a blessing for her, even if we all spent weeks hankering for a reunion (and then got it..... like THAT).

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Though, I was a little bit wrong. I thought on Kwangju, because of how Yeonsan formulated all his words regarding that town Kwangjumok (by the way @kiara: is that in the annals?), I didn't assume that they would really go all Kwangju. So I assumed, that they hinted on it, with the death of the nice guy. --- But dramawise I was a little bit early.
That whole episode 27 was a very detailed description of the happenings in Kwangju. All you said: The sealing of the roads, the massacre at the students; also how the people organized themselves, the part with the people searching for the dead bodies of family members in the places the dead were brought in, the people on-behind the gate - like the people behind the walls of busses.
The Kwangju uprising had a huge impact on the democratic movement. It brought different groups that were not in contact before together. And it became something that was important to the before not so agitated middle class as well. Before the protesters had been mostly workers and intellectuals, after the protesters came from all classes.

Military men lost trust in the politicians too. They were just used in that incident as well. This is why with singing the song they are portrayed as victims of the politics that led to Kwangju as well.
The USA weren't less backing up the regime after that too. Probably they were saving face because their role in that incident had become object of discussion?

Koreans just love Les Miserables, the musical... :)

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I found this episode quite hard to watch! :(
- Though Ga-ryung! What a great scene! I watched it three times... ;)

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Oh that scene is still one of my favorites, even though I knew it was going to happen as I saw some BTS stills before the drama. Watching it unfold on the screen was still satisfying. Gah, now only 4 days left until next episode...

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If the cast of Rebel don't win at the MBC drama awards this year (and they should, they're MBC's highes-rated weekday drama of the year so far), it's a farce.

And yeah, it is a great scene. I love how Ga-ryung goes from broken to straight-up scary in a flash, that's what really makes it. She may be caught and condemned but the girl will damn well go down fighting.

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Yes. And the scenes where it all happened kind of felt 'modern' to me. Especially the scene where the mother was looking for her son and found him there (that scene kind of getting me emotional though, even though I just met these characters literally 5 minutes before) and when the people had a town meeting. It probably reminded me of some of the scenes from May 18...

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@liina
I haven't seen this episode yet. Just reading comments.
If I recall correctly Yeonsan's only order that involved killing scholars (Sarim) was the first literati purge in 1498.

This scene being based on the Kwangju uprising makes more sense. Scholars and commoners are involved etc.

It's safe to say that "Spring Of Ilkhwari" is Rebel's revolutionary song. It's about empowering the people to stand up and fight against injustice, persecution etc.
Just like "Do you hear the people sing?" from Les Miserable and Jeong Do-jeon's Mu-Yi-Yi-Ya from SFD.

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Ah, thank you! :)

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I love this episode so much!
I love when Eorini cried for the Hong gang.
I love that Gil-Hyun always hold Eorini hands.
I love Gil-Hyun smirks when he face Jeong-gak.
I love the last scene, Chae Soo-bin wrecked my heart with her cried ?

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Yeah, I have lots of favorite scenes from this episode too..

Badass Hong brothers vs Jeong Hak & Mori. Burn him with your clever words Gil Hyun, burn~~

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Ha, I loved Gil-hyun facing Jeong-hak too! - That was so satisfying!

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Hong clan reunion under the tree, it was so beautiful I'm scared that it might be their last time together in full squad (well, Ga Ryung wasn't there so it wasn't really a complete Hong family)

LOL at Mori's expression when the King's soldiers were starting to sing along the rebel.. you just can't resist the temptation to join in and singing the "heheii yaa hohoii yaa" part just like me.. (well, hello there Ahn Ye Eun ! So that's why she posted some pictures in her instagram account with Rebel's casts, how lucky she is ^^)

Gil Dong-aah~~ how much is it that you miss Ga Ryung?? Another dream, another flower sign (what flower is it btw?). And what is it with him sweating and feeling too weak? I'm starting to feel worried..

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Love the Hong clan reunion scene too! I hope they will never ever be apart again!

Ga Ryung has met all of them except Gil Hyun, right? Gil Hyun has definitely seen her when he went to her house with Deputy Governor Eom but he didn't want to meet her.

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Yeah, he saw her from a distance (didn't see her face clearly, I think - she was praying) and decided to hold off meeting her until he could see Gil-dong.

But Gil-dong doesn't seem to have actually told his siblings he got married, since he thinks Ga-ryung left because she thought he died. The entire time Eorini was speaking about the palace unni, I was just hoping she'd say Ga-ryung's name so Gil-dong could finaly get a clue where she was and why she'd gone, but she was cut off too soon!

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It was another painful missed connection for this drama lol.

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Ga Ryung in the closing scene saved this episode for me and hoping against hope, she'd better survive somehow.

Thank you @tineybeanie. You encapsulate the thoughts and my feelings about this show perfectly.

I think I felt more roused by Amogae than I ever have been by Gil Dong. Even though he was just a leader of outlaws, there was something more electrifying and inspiring about Amogae. When he died, I thought it would be Gil Dong's turn to shine but he never live up to my expectation despite certain significant events like his 'resurrection'. I can't pin point if it's the story, execution or acting.

While it was good to see that there were people who were willing to die to save Gil Dong and the cause, it was also frustrating to see Gil Dong, who has extraordinary powers, unable to save his people in crucial times like this. I know he was once called out for not living to the true calling of his powers. However, surely the rebellion is the best time to use his strength?

I am equally confused by Nok Soo and Ga Ryung. For the former, I had to ask myself if this was the woman who risked her life to save Gil Dong not too long ago. Why would she be so enraged to know that Gil Dong is married? Did she really expect him to wait forever for her? Her bigger issue probably lies in the fact that it is Ga Ryung who is now Gil Dong's wife. I can understand the jealousy but is it so terrible that she now has to kill both Gil Dong and Ga Ryung? Neither has even betrayed her. If the tipping point was that she cannot stand being wrong, then I've lost all respect for this character. I haven't been blaming her for not sticking her neck out to do the right thing and indulging the king. Now, looking at her dressed up like some female warrior standing by the king's side makes me angry.

As for Ga Ryung, I cannot understand why she has to jeopardize her mission. Although we know that Gil Dong is alive, she doesn't. So Ga Ryung should still be very focused on killing the king. She should also know by now that if she should be weary of Nok Soo, not goad her further. Insecurities or jealousies aside, she should have been planning another attack on the king or had she given up already?

If Gil Dong is going to win the coup, they had better step up the scale of the rebellion. I guess this may have to do with the filming budget but it's kind of a stretch to imagine such a small scale or unsophisticated methods would topple a regime. I can't remember how other dramas do it or has this always been an issue?

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I think the rebellion itself would not topple the regime, but instead it would be like a butterfly effect that would inspire others who suffered under the king's oppression to do something about it. They also introduced one of the officials in this episode who would be involved in the coup against the king. I guess the final stretch would try to build into the final coup by tying all the little plot threads together

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Nok-soo is a person who will choose her own survival over anything. Ga-ryung is a threat to her position and has taken everything she has ever wanted away from her. Her love for Gil-dong and her position in Yeonsangun's court. Nok-soo has shown she values this by threatening death to any of the gisaengs in the palace who rise without her approval. Moreover, she has no trust or faith in people as a result of her upbringing, so it's no surprise that her solution to solving her problems is just to destroy/kill people. Plus, she holds her relationship with Gil-dong on a pedestal as a perfect love. Ga-ryung ruins that just with her presence. Yes, part of it is jealousy, but Ga-ryung also destroys the carefully crafted image she has of herself just by existing.

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Plus, the idea that any love of Nok Soo's being inferior to any one else's love of the same person is a thought I feel Nok Soo abhors. Even though she knows with Yi Yung that she's not his only "love," her level of importance and authority makes her "love" more supreme to others. I feel Nok Soo also felt this way with Gil Dong; I don't see it so much that she thought he wouldn't marry or settle down after several years. Rather, I feel like Nok Soo must still see her relationship as the most superior of his interactions. Therefore, when she finds out that Ga-ryung married Gil-dong and that their relationship was built out of a great love for one another, she reacts out of a sense of lost authority/supremacy. Similarly, in her interactions with Yi Yung, she does the same. She punishes those who intend to impugn her dignity/authority/superiority, even if unintentionally. Then Ga-ryung in some ways takes her place as the supreme object in Yi Yung's eyes, and it stings Nok Soo because she's been in that position for a long time.

While Honey Lee has done a fantastic job with Nok Soo's character, I personally never liked Nok Soo as much as I did Ga-ryung. I've always sensed that if, given the circumstances, Nok Soo needed to increase her power/authority/supremacy, she would do so in a heartbeat.

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Notice how she said "HE is the only one who cherishes me above anyone else" instead of "He is the one I CHERISHES most"? (If the translation in kissasian is correct) Like, she was very sure that Gil-dong love her and her only so when Ga-ryung said they're married I think it must've hurt her pride.

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She's Consort Jang...above any and all of the other gisaengs...She's not going to let anyone else get the same position as her. No way. That's why she punished Ok-ran and indirectly Ga-ryung for stepping on her skirt.

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I've said this before, but I feel like in this drama, it actually works to have Gil-dong not be a particularly magnetic or charismatic presence, because the rebellion he inspires isn't based on people being drawn to his personality. He has the loyalty of the Hongvengers/his family, and that is believable - and it's their collective deeds as Hong Chum-ji and the reports of Gil-dong's strength, not Gil-dong's personality, that inspire people to take a stand against the system.

Like the shaman said, people were following Gil-dong into hiding/battle not because of anything else but the fact that he'd shown them that it was possible to fight authority, on however small a scale, and win. It was the winning that brings people on-side and gets them ready to risk their lives for the next possible win, which makes a lot of sense to me given how Gil-dong is written.

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The scene between Ga Ryung and Mo Ri. Pheew.. at this point, Gil Ryung shipper should be alarmed. I admit that they have such a weird (and intriguing) chemistry right there..

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I think the chemistry was Ga-ryung's desperation. I honestly don't think there's anyone else besides Gil-dong for her. In fact, both of them have made pretty clear they're it for each other.

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@cloveredlioness - seriously, I could FEEL the moment when Ga-ryung heard Gil-dong's voice and realised he was alive after all.

What's even more incredible about that scene is that her eyes are covered and half her face is under a blindfold and she still manages to gut me anyway.

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Right? Up until that moment she had no actual, real evidence that he was alive. And she hears his voice and it just CRUSHES her. She doesn't want Gil-dong have to choose between her and the people and she would rather die than have Gil-dong be forced to make such a horrible choice.

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That moment in Episode 15 where he gently cusps her face and says he loves how bright and strong she is with a lump in his throat KILLS ME though. (Poor Garyung, that's all she had to keep her going for four years, and then only because she turned the wheels herself.)

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THAT SCENE! I thought something would happen after that, but then I saw the preview and GaRyung was going to leave, and I was like wth. So I decided to watch ep 16 live the next day... lol

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omg now that you've mentioned that scene I just realized that maybe the reason why Gil-dong kept Ga-ryung waiting for so long was because he didn't want to face her half-heartedly?
Like, he's been keeping Nok-su in his heart for all that time so he had to wait until he could fully get over his feelings for Nok-su, because facing Ga-ryung's feelings for him while still keeping Nok-su in his heart would feel like he's being insincere with Ga-ryung (and he totally knows how strongly she feels for him I mean who wouldn't??)

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@nico8 I think Gil-dong's choice to stay away from her and their feelings for each other for so long had more to do with Gil-dong fearing for her safety while being associated with him than anything else. Up until Episode 20, everyone he has ever loved in his family had died, save Amogae, because of the thug life. His mom's death had a profound effect on him. He thinks it's his fault. Ga-ryung gets threatened by Mori in episode 14 because of him...so from that point, he just goes 'Nope, gotta back off and keep her safe.'

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I'm on board Gil Ryung ship but I didn't expect Mo Ri and Ga Ryung's chemistry over those simple gestures. There's nothing romantic but rather more desperate but I don't know why I replayed that scene for 3 times. I already noticed the potential ship in earlier episode when Mo Ri was following Ga Ryung then she noticed him and threatened him using a stone. I giggled to Mo Ri's intimidated, smitten and in awe look.

I assume Mo Ri's crush to Ga Ryung and Mo Ri not being fullbevil is
a build up to lead us to the scene when Mo Ri will choosen to side with the rebels and save Ga Ryung. I believe in you Mo Ri. Save our precious Ga Ryung.

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Gil-Ryung ship has consumed my life, so I was surprised that even I felt the chemistry there. I think it's a combination of GaRyung's desperation and Mori being genuinely worried for her.
I'm not alarmed though, since it's pretty set in the stone that GilRyung is the only ship for this show :D Fingers crossed that Mori will stop hanging out with bad kids.

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They do have great chemistry, but the Gil-ryung ship is IT for me, no one else stood a chance after that first stake scene in the ep 1 flash-forward - not Nok-soo, not Mo-ri, no one.

The level of intensity and heartbreak in that scene.... Gil-dong had a whole crowd of Hongvengers around him, but that scene really played out just between him and Ga-ryung. I was sold on them after that, even when it didn't look very promising at first because she was a fluffy bunny and he fell for Nok-soo first.

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I know right? I shipped them from that first scene together. And it looked DIRE up until episode 16 since we got nothing more than crumbs until Gil-dong came to his senses. All we had to cling onto was reading between lines and seeing all of Gil-dong's actions where it's just impossible for him to deny her anything. And Ga-ryung was the only one sailing our ship for the longest time lol. But I think I knew they would be together because that first scene just doesn't have the same impact if they aren't in love. Plus, she is the character that first introduces Gil-dong in the series, is in the first scene with Gil-dong first episode...and also is the first character to meet him as an adult and start the plot of the story then. It's literally the author shouting 'SHE IS IMPORTANT TO HIM! PAY ATTENTION!'

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I know, right?! When the very first words we see adult Gil-dong speak are her name, I think that's a pretty obvious indication she's important to him.

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Yeah, I'm on Team Gil-Ryung all~~ the way too. This couple had been crawling up into the top list of my most favorite k-drama couple of all time

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Now that's a cliffhanger.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT ENDING SCENE NOOOOOOO

But Ga-ryung....wow. She blew my mind in every way this ep. Chae Soo-bin delivered so hard, it's amazing. And that ear-biting scene gave me chills, I actually believed she'd make good on her threat to come back as a ghost and haunt him to death. (which makes Nok-soo's reveal that Gil-dong was alive even more heartbreaking *sigh*)

Off to work now, will be back in about 12 hours to comment more!

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“How dare this girl, who used to follow me around and looked up to me, try to rise above/outdo me. Ga-ryung has stolen my pure/first love and now she’s trying to take away my power [by killing the king or by stealing his favors]. I can’t lose both of them… not to her.” That’s what I perceive as Nok-soo’s motivation now.

The first episode showed us that this was going to happen, but the circumstances getting there were sadder than I anticipated, especially with Ga-ryung. She isn’t part of the Hong family reunion. She’s still insecure about Gil-dong and Nok-soo’s history. Her ‘friend’ betrays her. She understands what Yeonsangun and Nok-soo have planned for her. And her reunion with Gil-dong is bittersweet. Plus, we know that arrow is coming. The ray of hope? MORI!

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THIS! She is also a woman who knows CLEARLY the power of position for survival and how quickly it can be taken away. Look at her mom and the magistrate. Ga-ryung is a direct threat to her position. The king is interested in her and knows about her former relationship to Gil-dong. If she doesn't get rid of Ga-ryung, she will not be able to survive.

Plus, Ga-ryung has what she wanted. Her choice to be with Yeonsangun is hollow. But she didn't trust Gil-dong. Ga-ryung just being there is throwing in her face everything she could have had, the life and person she could have been. Ga-ryung just being at the palace invalidates her decision. So she needs to destroy Ga-ryung to prove she was right.

And the point you made about the positions...that's part of it too. She's absorbed the tea around Yeonsangun and Song Sabu.

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Nok-soo always has this evil side to her, which she admits in the earlier episode to Gil-dong. Gil-dong is the only one who see past that evil side and begins to heal her slowly. However, the moment she chose the King over Gil-dong, I knew she will have to come back to her former evil self. That tears she shed after she told Ga-ryung that Gil-dong is alive struck me as the last tear she will shed - she's now fully embracing her dark side. It's so sad, both Yeonsangun and Nok-soo are evil, but I can't help symphatizing at the same time. I don't think I've ever feel for villains as strongly like this in other dramas before.

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@kiara
Do you know if that incident with the babies in one of the former episodes is something that's in the records?
The breaking out the prisopners relates to Im Kkeok-jeong. Though he never freed prisoners of the palace grounds. (At least I wouldn't have heard of it.)
That would probably be a mix up. Hong Gil-dong never broke out prisoners from anywhere. Neither the fictional one (o.k., he himself broke out, but that's not the same) nor the real one. So a mix up of Im Kkeok-jeong, the fictional robbing of Hamgyeong and fictional Gil-dong's "visit" to the palace? - Though the fictional robbing of Hamgyeong could relate to a not so fictional act of one of the real robbers?

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Perhaps a reason why Gil-dong doesn't go FULL HULK is because he faints and forgets things pretty much right after which in a war and prolonged battle situation isn't exactly useful or effective. There's people depending on him to lead and yes, he can delegate tasks...but how effective is winning a war going to be when your general maxes out all his power and leaves you to the wolves? Until there's a way for him to un-nerf his powers, I don't think it'll be possible for him to go crazy with his powers.

I find the contrasting opinions about the drama interesting because while my fanaticism probably started when things really started to happen in Episode 18, it always had me even with Gil-dong became the main protagonist and I never felt a disconnect with the characters or their motivations. I mean, Episode 12 was boring for me and I felt that towards the middle it maybe was dragging, but I've been with it all the time. It just ticks all the boxes off for me.

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I don't think it's a good thing for him to just jump down to the soldiers below. Like you said, the people need him to lead. I feel so sorry the women have to join in as well...

Regarding his super power, it doesn't seem like he is using them much. Is this some kind of Mighty Child rule as well? In this case, he started to see himself as equal to the people, so he started to use them less?

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Perhaps...I also wonder if the mighty child power comes with an expiry date...Like you can only use it so much until the powers are just gone. Eorini said he's looking sweaty...but if your wife/significant other just gave you a goodbye/see you in another life via dream, I'd probably get sweaty too lol.

And now that Gil-dong has channeled his energy into other people and empowered them to stand up for themselves...perhaps he's transferred his powers from physical strength to that of being able to inspire and lead others. Perhaps that's his true super power and the super strength is just window dressing.

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And he also wants to empower others to help themselves...Swooping down and unilaterally taking care of things won't do that. He's teaching people how to fish, not giving them fish.

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That's a good point! Since GilDong himself realized the after effect of going full on Mighty Child blast of rage, he decided to control that. Reminds me of going Super Saiyan 3 where you can only use it at the right time and make sure that you really obliterate your enemies, otherwise everyone else would be toasted since they depend on you.

That made me question Mori's power though, since he also went on full Mighty Child mode, but he never passed out or lose his memory after using it.

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I've seen lots of comments in Naver begging the writers and Mori to help Ga-ryung and I can't help agreeing. Please!!!

We need to see Ga-ryung getting jealous again, this time, really saying it to Gil-dong "Seobang, I'm jealous!" So that we can get a scene of Gil-dong being all cute to make it up to his wife. It's been too long since we get a cute scene.

I cried when Eorini joins her brothers under the tree, like finally, they're complete again. I'm just so happy but I wish they have their dad by their side too.

I spotted Ahn Ye-eun as well! She's visited the filming site before, finally they made her an extra lol. "Ikhwari's Spring" by Kim Sang-joong fits that scene very well I had goosebumps.

I just have so much to comment actually, since I think this is one of the best episode ever but I am just not so eloquent so I'm just going to give my thumbs up! :)

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Woop. So much to say lol. I think I need to start do a full random thoughts of the Nok-soo vs. Ga-ryung in this episode lol.

Well, Nok-soo is officially DEAD to me. Like, I HATE her as a character. She deserves every punishment that will come to her…and I’m sure she’ll be even worse. Even KNOWING ahead of time that the story would turn this way, that she would betray Ga-ryung, I was not prepared for how much I would DESPISE her actions. It’s a credit to the writing and also made worse by the fact that we saw how she got here. We had sympathy for her. We liked her and cared about her. So her betrayal just hurts worse. I’m going to love hating her and watching her get punished.

Honey Lee was AMAZEBALLS. She plays the role so well. She has this crazed look in her eyes. We get to see all of Nok-soo’s jealousies and insecurities that lead her to make such a horrible, monstrous decision to betray not only Ga-ryung, but the only man she’s ever loved…the only person who’s ever shown care for her. She fully knows that she’s destroying herself and willingly putting herself on that ship to spite others and for her own survival…as well as vanity/pride. If she’s going down, she’s taking everyone down with her. She wants to be the one who made the right decision. Well, there’s going to be a cost to that.

Jealousy is dangerous because it destroys the self-worth and image you have in yourself...so Nok-soo sees in Ga-ryung the destruction of not only her position for survival (she knows how fleeting it is given her own mother), but also a destruction of who she is as a person. So she has no choice but to destroy Ga-ryung in order to preserve who she is.

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@O_o: I'm very sorry that I misunderstood you the other day. I thought you wanted to say, the tale would be of unimportance to the drama (silly me!). Since that came together with something else it gave me quite a fright! - I'm glad that I didn't bore all of you beanies to death! :) -
Thanks for the feedback! - And thanks to the others as well!

Apropos "thanks": Thank you @tineybeanie and thank you @dramallama for providing us with the recaps! You are doing such a great job for us! :)

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Somehow having gone through 26 episodes of this series, this moment is even sadder than in episode 1. Probably because we know these characters now, are invested in them and we know who they are to each other…and the situation is just worse…Yeonsangun is even there to gloat! Plus their reactions to seeing each other is worse than in episode 1. Episode 1, Gil-dong was pained…now he’s literally heartbroken…and Ga-ryung when she realizes her husband is actually alive…that moment killed me. They do that whole painful exchange of calling to each other. And now I’m pretty sure Ga-ryung means ‘you will never see me again’ in a sayoUnara way (see you in the next life), not sayonara (see you again). Shall we ready the phone stacking CF and Girlfriend MV? Lol…I’ve still got hope in OTP though.

WHAT ARE THOSE VISIONS!? SERIOUSLY! WHAT ARE THEY!? Ga-ryung has a full on conversation with Gil-dong that deals with what will happen to her literally in 10 minutes. How is this happening? Does she have powers? Is she a mighty child? Is she astral projecting? That scene was so freaking sad and bittersweet. Dream Ga-ryung KNOWS she’s gonna die. Holy crap. I hate to think of it this way, but it does feel like a goodbye…but let us have them actually have a scene together, dammit. What were those flowers? (Azaleas?) Because we must analyze! (Based on the BTS video, they brought in those flowers specifically. They were potted/unpotted and just plopped there… SO THEY HAVE MEANING!) Lol. (Further research-Azaleas also symbolize the home in Asia. The saying xiang shu means 'home bush' but more like...xiang means your hometown/place of origin, while shu is tree. I searched google translate and the meaning was 'township'. So home.

Ga-ryung biting the king’s ear was AMAZING! Like, holy crap. She WENT there! She even indignantly announced to EVERYONE whose wife she was. And she even gave Yeonsangun a tongue lashing. DAYUM GIRL! That scene reminded me a LOT of when Heo Tae Hak got his ear cut off. And I also find it interesting that in Korean when you ask ‘Are you crazy/insane?’ it literally means ‘Are you a crazy dog?’ because Ga-ryung certainly looked like a dog with that blood. I love that she comes in all ready to be meek, weak and kowtow, but she tricks the king and just GOES FOR IT. Damn. I don’t think Nok-soo even expected that crazy from her lol. It’s also heavily symbolic that she makes this false king lower himself to her to hurt him. Go true queen, go! I LOVE that she’s able to stand up for all the people to the king.

I know it might seem like she's throwing all her plans to the wind...but I don't think Ga-ryung had another play, nor another chance to strike and she knew it. She's been caught and no amount of talking is going to get her out of the situation. Her best bet is going to be jail...so she goes for a symbolic gesture at court. She's going to earn supporters this way who will perhaps save her later on.

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I wrote something about the flowers and visions when I wrote down the Story of Princess Pali, the Korean folklore tale about the girl, that gots thrown away by her parents and had to do laundry and farming for the heavenly grandmothers of laundry and farming (I can't help and see wolhamae as wolhalmae too...). Pali has a connection to Miaoshan and Guanyin. It's in the comments of last episode somewhere under the comments of number 55. I think the Miaoshan part has some heavy spoiler for episode 28 though. But since I think you know Miaoshan princess already, you wouldn't mind them.

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I love that story in regards to Ga-ryung, because it would turn Gil-dong in the "grumpy man" with whom Pali decides she had to live after doing laundry for the heavenly laundry grandmother. The grumpy man doesn't really want her to stay with him and it needs years till he figures out that Pali is a girl. They get married then and have lots of children... :)
Pali eventually gets reunited with her siblings. I'd wish that for Ga-ryung as well!

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That's SOOO Gil-dong. And his initial distrust and resentment of Ga-ryung, then utter refusal to acknowledge his feelings for her.

I also like the idea that Miaoshan creates a paradise wherever she is with the flowers. I think that's the point of Gil-dong's vision this time. Home and paradise is where Ga-ryung is for him.

And also how Miaoshan had three requirements for marriage...and those requirements are literally everything Ga-ryung did for Gil-dong...eased the suffering of his aged father, eased the suffering of his injuries/his father's injuries and eased the suffering of his father's death.

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Oh, I didn't know that about Miaoshan's marriage requirements. This is good to know and very fitting!

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Didn't know about Miaoshan...read on Wiki...I like it. Very Ga-ryung. Miaoshan's story is that of 香山 or fragrant mountain. Hyangjumok or rather the gate Gil-dong et al is guarding is called the 香州城 which means fragrant city/castle. Just gonna leave that there...lol.

You could also say that the whole Miaoshan story leads credence to my belief that Ga-ryung may have lied about her origins...that she may be a runaway forced to marry a douche.

Hoping for good things with Gil-ryung lol. C'mon mountain spirits!

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I don't think she lied about her identity. She literally tells the story of Princess Pali's background - who got thrown out, because there were too much children (girls) already and she was just another girl -. I think it's like Gil-dong who is merged in the drama with parts from the Mighty Child (the korean folklore), parts from Hong Gil-dong (the historical/fictional person), parts from Sun Wukong (the taoist immortal to that person). Ga-ryung is a merging from princess Pali (the korean folklore), Miaoshan (the historical/fictional person) and Guanyin (the taoist godess to that person).

It's funny how Nok-soo became in that episode the mother who sold their children out to both of them. She told Yeonsan the weakness of Gildong while he held her grapped at the collar (like the Mighty Child's mother) and she passively looks on while the King orders Ga-ryung to die (like Pali's mother did, when the King/father grapped Pali from her arms and threw her in the sea).

Pali is the one who walks between the realms (also the realms of life and death). Miaoshan is the one who sets the realm of death in bloom. Guanyin is the one who appears to the distressed and the ones on the verge of death.
The weird scene, when Ga-ryung appeared to Gil-dong and then turned into the shaman, was there, because it was a death of old life, beginning of new life scene. Pali (the future mother of shamans), Miaoshan, Guanyin they are all associated with death and new life.

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Ah, so that means in combination with Ga-ryung, that Hyangjumok is the Hong Gil-dong Universe realm of the dead. :)
- I don't know if that's a good or bad thing so. Since tale Gil-dong has this backstory of pretending his lair to be the underworld and to be King of the underworld... (that would be good for us then!)
- On the other hand his hideout is inspired from Im Kkeok-jeong's (that wouldn't be good for us at all --- sadly all that soldiers and big confrontation is all Im Kkeok-jeong...)

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I'm dying to know if our investigation of the allusions/references/history and tropes behind the story will pay off for Ga-ryung to be alive lol.

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That moment in the flash-forward was what sold me on Gil-dong and Ga-ryung as a couple, and revisiting it, it's still incredible and even more dramatic than this version.

And what really did it for me was the actors - they got a whole army behind him and her but it really felt like they were the only ones in the scene. That look in Yoon Kyun-sang's eyes as he's aiming.... I don't know if I can call it pained, that seems a bit of an understatement for someone who's looking like he'd rather die than do what he's doing just then.

Also:

WHAT ARE THOSE VISIONS!? SERIOUSLY! WHAT ARE THEY!? Ga-ryung has a full on conversation with Gil-dong that deals with what will happen to her literally in 10 minutes. How is this happening? Does she have powers? Is she a mighty child? Is she astral projecting?

I think prophetic dreams are an actual thing in this universe, remember Amogae showing up at Gil-hyun's study the day he died? I'm taking Ga-ryung's appearing to Gil-dong in the same vein.

(will be back later to comment, I have not let out enough Ga-ryung love!)

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Gil-dong's dreams are crazy! But the consistent thing is that he always dreams about Ga-ryung...Since dreams reflect our subconscious, that girl is always on his mind lol. He wasn't kidding when he said she'd be the only thing in his heart.

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It could be that Amogae appearing in Gil-hyun's room was possible because of the 49 days of transition.

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That would make more sense since it was kind of very ghostlike...Plus, Amogae could have been a mighty child...so maybe a power remnant?

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Just thoughts.

Despite seemingly popular opinion, I think that Gil Dong himself and his powers don't necessarily need to have that wow factor that viewers seem to want (truthfully I'd like it to but ya know). Sure, Gil Dong has extraordinary powers, but they weren't ever super strong. Sure, he could throw several men around and blow people away, but time and time again they were small groups of soldiers/thugs. An entire army of trained soldiers? I don't think so.
And in that retrospect, I think Gil Dong standing out as a character and his powers aren't what this story needed to be extravagant. As the shaman said, being a mighty child is not about strength. As the legend goes, the mighty child has the strength to overturn the country. But it wasn't about himself and his heroics. It was the strength that stands for the people of this oppressed, neglected country ruled by a narcissistic tyrant with a crazy inferiority complex. Gil Dong's strength does not need to blow over an entire invasion of troops, but his name, the ideals and what the Hong family's actions throughout this story; the way that it represents the people of the nation are what will drive home the well-deserved justice against Yeonsangun and his myriad wrongdoings.
In my opinion this drama was never about Gil-Dong's own heroic journey to rise with the people through the classic "ah this nation is wrong, let's stop it" against Yeonsangun. Gil Dong's not perfect; for the former half of this drama he was a thug, using his powers not for the benefit of any of the people he is helping now. Yet, as time went on, as he witnessed everything occurring before his eyes, he found that path through the help of so many. The Hong family, the shaman, Ga Ryung, even minor characters all played a part in developing the titular character and the whole plot. Thus, whilst having some flaws with a few unexplained things or seemingly confusing events/pacing, etc. I'm willing to ignore it simply because of how remarkable it is seeing these characters grow from what they were, no matter how minor their roles or how weak the story may seem.
Maybe I'm biased, but this drama had everything for me. Plot, music, romance, character development, political turmoil, justice, suspense. This drama bit more than it could chew, maybe, but it's been damn delicious.

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This is when I loooove the existence of thumbs up button. I couldn't expressing my thought very well with my limited english. You speak my mind. Thank you, thank you so much :)

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Maybe I'm biased, but this drama had everything for me. Plot, music, romance, character development, political turmoil, justice, suspense. This drama bit more than it could chew, maybe, but it's been damn delicious.

THIS! And all of your other points as well. Honestly I dropped all of the other dramas that I was watching, except for this because it gives me everything that I want from a show and more. Maybe that's why I was never disconnected with any of the characters from this show because imagine all the extra time I had from not watching other dramas that I can use to over-analyze all of these fictional characters' motivations and develop non-fictional attachments to them. lol.

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That Hong Family Reunion. OMG. Why you give me all these emotions? But you know who was missing? Gil-dong’s WIFE. So sad. They even redid the scene from episode 5. Only now it gives me extra emotions…Sooo cute. And I also LOVE the brotherly relationship with Gil-dong and Gil-hyun. We don’t really get much of it in the series since they spend the better part of 20 episodes apart.

Speaking of the brothers, that DUO BRO BURN of Jeong-hak was AMAZING. Kelso literally needed to show up just to shout ‘BURN!’ I love how Jeong-hak tries to take down both brothers by saying how they used to be his servants but Gil-dong just points out that he was never hot shit to begin with. He was just a coward with power who lacked the mental acuity of his inferiors. I also love how Gil-hyun makes the point that he was never an innovator, he always just rode Gil-hyun's coattails...because he really is hamstrung by his worldview and ideology to Song Sabu's 'Confucianism'.

That song was some Les Mis realness lol. I kinda loved it. I guess that means Yong-gae is Valjean since his dad was killed for stealing food? I think the soldiers that are loyal to the king are also showing their split loyalties by singing.

Wildcards to save Ga-ryung: Mori, Ok-ran, Eorini, Wolhamae, Song Sabu.

Mori: He and Ga-ryung made a plan while he talked to her after her attempted suicide. He is going to redeem himself and be a proper mighty child. As Gil-dong says, he keeps on being Team!Baddie, but without the baddie conviction and I think Gil-dong will earn his respect, if he hasn't already grudgingly earned it or his feelings for Ga-ryung will be the impetus.

Ok-ran: She's in the area and can repay the debt owed to Ga-ryung...or...

Eorini: Connects with Suwigdan as double agent to somehow cause a kerfuffle to save Ga-ryung...(Has to be careful of Nok-soo who knows her identity)

Song Sabu: See above. Gets to save Ga-ryung as part of some sort of power play in an indirect way.

Wolhamae: Connects with Ok-ran and Eorini to save Ga-ryung.

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Yes! Here is hoping Mori will somehow lend a hand to her safety. That scene inside the tent won't be for nothing (hopefully).

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YESSSSSSS @the Hong Bros delivering a whole oilfield full of BURN to Jeong-hak, that scene was delicious on so many levels.

Not least because of Gil-hyun making a third degree burn out of Jeong-hak's attempt to put down his slave origins, a lot like Gil-dong doing the same thing to Yeonsangun last week. I love that both brothers get to tell an a-hole superior (who could, in different circumstances, have been their friend) that their noble/royal ancestry is useless because guess what, you still suck (Gil-dong to Yeonsangun) and I'm still better than you even if I was born a slave (Gil-hyun to Jeong-hak).

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Basically, it gives me absolute life to see both brothers claiming their humble origins with such pride in the face of people attempting to put them down - I didn't realise how significant it was that Gil-dong shot down any rumours of noble origin right in the ep 1 flash-forward and stated flat-out that his father was a slave. And it's doubly gratifying in Gil-hyun's case because he had to spend so long under an assumed identity, so seeing him reclaim it so boldly the very first time he comes face to face with Jeong-hak after outing himself gives me ridiculous amounts of joy.

Also, on an entirely superficial note: Gil-hyun smirking at Jeong-hak had me reaching for my smelling salts, I was trying really hard not to swoon because damn is that expression LETHAL.

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I'm in danger too @pogo, each time I see that dimple I have to clutch my heart.

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YESSSS I'm not alone!

I adore Yoon Kyun-sang to death but Gil-hyun was the real dark horse here. I swear every time he smiles I have the vapours, while every time Yoon Kyun-sang smiles I just want to pet him like a puppy and send him off to adorable Ga-ryung.

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I am so gone for this cast it's not even funny.

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They had chose perfect actor (in terms of acting skill AND) who has cute dimple just like Yoon Kyun Sang ^^

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This reminds me of what we said when Yoon Kyun-sang had his breakout role in Pinocchio :)

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Thanks for bringing up that point! Gil-hyun finally taking pride in his humble origins really means a lot since before he viewed it as something that took away from his dream of being a scholar...He reached the top and it's not all it's cracked up to be.

And I really do love how significant Gil-dongs humble origins have become. At first it was like 'wait, but I thought he was half yangban...that seems like a random change, but now it's so perfect.

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ikr?! It's amazing how that turned out, because initially I just thought 'interesting, so he's not a yangban bastard after all' but now their being Amogae's sons is like the cornerstone of who Gil-dong and Gil-hyun are.

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Honestly this drama also became from a drama that a must watch to something that I am watching for the sake of finishing it. I cannot wait for this drama to finish and get over with it. This drama started really really strong, but somehow after Amogae's death it became slower. With 3 epi left, and next week we will also get one epi only to watch, it isnt a good sign for myself. Now, I am more intriguing with Yeonsan and Noksoo and how their endings will be written in this drama. Ga Ryung was also impressive this week, I still quite surprised to see her bite Yeonsan's ear. At least she was not the same girl I watched on earlier episodes. I am also feel a bit sorry that I dont impress with Gildong or Yun Kyun Sang, even after 27 episodes. Anyway I hope the last 3 epi worth the wait, I still like this drama nevertheless.

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GaRyung MADEEE this episode!! The ear biting and screaming at GilDong that she won't see him if he doesn't do what she says made all the feels for me??

I will say though, one thing I appreciate about this episode is the focus that GilDong puts on every individual townsperson that dies from the fight. GilDong has def and unfortunately taken a backburner in this drama but his tears for the people dying in front of him did stir my heart a bit. COME BACK MIGHTY CHILD!!! RELEASE YOUR WRATH!!!

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Thanks for the recap!

But I want Ga Ryung to ride off the sunset with Gil Dong, not Mo Ri.

I kinda forgot but is it mandatory for Gil Dong to die? Is it because prophecy of mighty child? Could Mo Ri be the one who dies instead?

I like the actor who plays Mo Ri but I can't stand seeing Ga Ryung to suffer anymore, please don't let her die or has her husband killed, writer-nim!

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It is not mandatory for him to die.

if we follow the mighty child story - he will die
if we follow the Gil-dong story - he will live
if we follow the historical Gil-dong - he is already dead; so, not of greater importance for us
if we follow Im Kkeok-jeong's story - he will die
if we follow Sun Wukong's story - he will live
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I think he will live. He will go farming with his brothers and sister and his 7 robbers and Ga-ryung will adopt Mori and Ok-ran as siblings and they will be there as well. If it doesn't end like that I'll use that for my own imginary ending!

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Thanks, I'll also pretend that this is the ending if Ga Ryung dies.

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Don't forget we already have the cheesy modern day reincarnation plot all ready to go as well with YKS and CSB's previous experiences working together for a phone stacking game aka. love confession and the 'Girlfriend' music video aka. I love my girlfriend soooo much...I miss her tons. Lol.

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TBH i too was hoping for more Mighty Child badassery from Gil-dong in this episode. But I'm willing to overlook it because as we've seen so many times before, every time he uses the full extent of his powers, he passes out. I think by now he's learnt his lesson and is pacing himself.
Having their leader pass out and have to be taken care of while they're in the middle of a siege won't be any good for anyone lol

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I think the portrayal of Gil-dong's powers has been fairly clear about him being able to manage major one-off feats of strength in short bursts, and now that they've returned he's much stronger than average in everyday life too and can control his strength.

But he can't fight an entire army of hundreds if not thousands on his own (not to mention their cannons), and the siege has been on for days at this point with at least two rebuffed attempts to break down the Hwangjumok gates, Jeong-hak says as much.

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why yesterday there is no show this drama at oh!k? and they replaced it with Goblin special ep 1?

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so now that we have that stake scene...
thinking about this song from ga-ryung's perspective has me so emotional
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l69gTEaar3s

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OWWWWW omg the first line

I didn't realise it would be so literal because it's dusk and she's blindfolded!

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About death and resurrection in Rebel

Like @kiara said: The original author of that novel really was a huge fan of Im Kkeok-jeong. If you just change the names Gil-dong and Kkeok-jeong in the story you basically have the historical tale of Im Kkeok-jeong told in the way of an enlightenment story.
He more or less elevated the person Im Kkeok-jeong to a taoist godess - the taoist godesses: they were once all normal humans that reached enlightenment by the choices they made in their lives. The historically Im Kkeokjeong died, but in the Hong Gil-dong tale, it is reversed and the King dies; Gil-dong reaches enlightenment.
The immortals die and get resurrected when they reach a next step of enlightenment, but it isn't necessarily physical (like Gil-dong turned from historical Gil-dong/Gil-san to historical Im Kkeok-jeong when he died at the stake).
The problem is - that we don't know if Im Kkeok-jeong/Gildong will physically die or not, because it's also possible the writer will portray the next step in a the physical form dies and "the spirit lives on" way - and the now immortals guide/guard the people from the other side or if the writer will portray it as a dying of a side of a not longer needed persona of Gil-dong and Ga-ryung - then the death will be figuratively.

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The thing is, but I'm not really into metaphysical or esoterical stuff, so I'm not good at interpreting this. I do think, Ga-ryung and Gil-dong would miss a step/some steps when they would die now.

I'm not really sure, if that enlightenment stories all follow the same way. The last sageuk, that was such a tale, was "Sangdo". That was many, many years ago. That was a really straight enlightenment story.

SPOILERS TO SANGDO
In the beginning Sangdo is told, he will die fourth times.
Which he figuratively does. Four times he makes a decission that could cost him his life, where he chooses the good of others over an aspect of greed. The greed to make money, the greed to accumulate power, the greed to love and the greed to prolong life/having a place in the happenings of the world.
SPOILER END

Rebel isn't straight up though, I don't even know if the enlightenment parts were put there willingly or popped up accidentally. And I really don't know how that whole enlightenment thing really works. And then they still could probably take two steps at once?

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Write a comment...I think nok soo main motive was her jealousy and also she refuses to accept day she made the wrong decision by leaving Gil dong wen he needed her. Also I believe dat she doesn't want to accept the fact dat Gil dong a strong affection for Ga ryung.

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That scene at the end when Gil Dong and Ga Ryung were reunited.. Gosh. It was really heart wrenching. That longing and pain at the situation they are in. The actors did a good job. We need to know what happens next!!

I agree that somehow the story is a bit less epic in the 2nd half of the show but I'm still enjoying it. Kim Ji Suk is gloriously maniac as the king. This, you guys, is how you do crazy, like a loose cannon King. Honey Lee is also so good.. She's dripping with malice when she needs to be.

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Am I only one who doesn’t think that HGD took as long as people think to get over Nok Soo. I think he took ages to get with Ga Ryung but that is an entirely different matter. I can’t be sure of the exact time frame but at most I think he got over her in a few months. There were signs from his time with Ga Ryung early on where even though he wouldn’t admit it, he was drawn to Ga Ryung. At first he did hold back because of his commitment to Nok Soo but after a while it was because he had become a thug and didn’t want to put Ga ryung in danger. Even Amogae saw it.

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I totally agree! I thought he started falling for Ga Ryung way earlier than he admitted to himself, and then of course took forever to be open with her about it.

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Actually that scene where he first met GaRyung and Nok Soo and got slapped by GaRyung. I always wondered if he was thinking of GaRyung after the scene as he touched his slapped cheek and smiled...

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That reminds me of something. Remember when he said that Ga-ryung is the prettiest in Danyejeong (did I get this name right? anyway, in the old gibang). Then he said it again on their wedding night "Among the women I met, none were as beautiful as you" (I totally melted btw). That means he truly means it, he wasn't just saying it to please his new wife.

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oh, he totally meant it - and the first time he was in the gibang, he was flirting with Ga-ryung too (no guy looks like that over a girl who's slapped him unless he actually finds her appealing on some level).

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I think he was definitely thinking about Ga-ryung. He intrigued her the moment he met her by knowing all that stuff about him. She appears to him when he's got his guard down and his mouth open lol and is this sort of mysterious figure hustling him along to her gibang.

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There were signs that Gil-dong had started seeing Ga-ryung in a distinctly non-platonic way even after Nok-soo, as early as his first raid on Heotaehak to get back the silver mines after Choongwongoon had them confiscated from Amogae (she went for Heotaehak's keys and fell off the wall into his arms on her way out.... no way Gil-dong was seeing her as just a little sister figure then).

I think he hung on to the idea of Nok-soo in his head for a long time, even after he was over her, but I think that started to happen as early as his return to Ikhwari - he just didn't acknowledge actually having feelings for Ga-ryung at first since it was easier to think of her as a surrogate sister in Eorini's absence.

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Oh definitely and even though he tried hard to stonewall and tsundere her...he just couldn't help himself because he liked her. And his DAD noticed. Which makes me think that there were probably a lot more things that Gil-dong did for Ga-ryung to reveal his secret feelings for her.

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Make that stonewall and tsundere AND sisterzone her to be able to admit he was fond of her without having to acknowledge he'd developed feelings for her.

But it's interesting that he imagined her in the place of the most important relationship he'd had with any girl in his life, even if said girl was family - Gil-dong CARED about Ga-ryung, from way early in the story even if he hadn't yet untangled himself from his feelings for Nok-soo at that time. And she knew it, which was why she mentioned Nok-soo at the opening night of the Hwalbinjaeong gibang.

Also, I like that he got over the ex eventually and without much dramatics, probably without even realising. Not enough kdramas do that.

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I am new to this drama, but have been following via recaps and just started watching. I was trying to hold out until I saw if there was a happy ending, but some of the scenes I've seen drove me to start (the cliffhanger to this episode I came across on YouTube did me in - so intense). Now I'm sucked in, staying up way too late to catch up. I love it and am hoping against hope that Ga Ryung will be saved and will ride off into the sunset with Gil Dong in some sense.

I love the female characters in this show so much! Honey Lee and Chae Soo Bin are fantastic. Another favorite is Mori, who I still want to turn around and join the good guys. The actor is great - I'd actually seen him before in a short drama called Binggoo, where he's the lead and plays a sweet artist, so it's quite the change!

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Guys when is episode 28 coming, I have been waiting

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Next Monday :(

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next Monday due to the elections in South Korea. It's a real bummer, I know.

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yeah, and there's only one episode next week too.

MBC really likes making us suffer!

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Almost afraid to watch the final episodes since it seems it will be immensley tragic, unresolved ugly and some weird metaphysical outcome that will leave us feeling eh......

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I don't want it to end ever lol not ready to move on yet. However, based on writer's past project I believe we will have our happy ending (or I will flip tables)

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But I'm worried that they might use the picture of the Hong clan reunion under the tree or the scene when Amogae was still alive and having a party with all of them in Ikhwari to pull Six Flying Dragons recap on us and went all : "And one last shot of all of them drinking together in peace and harmony, a long long time ago."

Noooooo T.T

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Same here, I'm terrified our heroes will all die (I'm honestly trying to see a situation where Gil-dong, Ga-ryung, Gil-hyun, Eorini and the Hong family all make it out alive and I can't see it... I'm having an especially hard time with it after knowing what happened with Jeongjung, who was Yeonsangun's successor - another purge!)

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if there's anything sageuk dramas like this taught me, it's that everyone dies and you'll hate yourself for being so invested in all of the characters.

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lol I learnt that lesson the hard way six months ago (*coughMoonLoverscough*) but here I am again anyway, willing and ready to be completely gutted by the fate of these characters.

But I'll live with it if they all die, my younger self used to be a glutton for CLAMP etc manga series where they specialise in separations, heartbreak and death.

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I had thought this from episode one and maybe it’s just hopeful thinking but I am even more convinced now that somehow Gil Dong shot Ga Ryung strategically avoiding vital organs, to make it look like it was in the heart. If they think he killed her by the arrow through the heart, they can’t use her as bait and that gets her out of the battle. And then maybe Mori or someone else can get her down after. Remember the first dream HGD had of Ga Ryung with the strawberries? I think that scene was a foreshadow of HGD having to use his ability to shoot precisely without missing his target.

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Thats's actually really probable. I didn't even think about the strawberry scene. Just thought that it was super random at the time. I did think from seeing ep. 1 that he probably shot her where it wouldn't kill her too.

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When Ga-Ryung said, "Sobang, I'm jealous." I was internally screaming, "Noooooo. Don't say that. He loves only you now!!" That scene broke my heart to pieces because she really believed he was dead.

Can't wait to find out what happens next. I just have a feeling that Mori has planned something that will save Ga-Ryung, otherwise that scene with them together would've been pointless. Monday cannot come fast enough!

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I don't think Ga-ryung meant that she thought Gil-dong loved her less, or that he really wanted Nok-soo all along even while he was married to her (Gil-dong made it clear on their wedding night there was no one for him but her). It did feel more like her being jealous of the fact that he'd waited so long for Nok-soo, and been so hung up on her at first.

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I didn't mean to make it seem as if he loved her less. As you said, he made it super clear that he would love only her. It was just my way of comforting her in that scene. Hahaha

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It's a little sad that he's the one with the misunderstanding now, since he seems to think she left him.

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How many episodes is this drama?

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30. There are three more left - one next week, then the final two the week after that.

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Wasn't there somebody who wanted to know, why Gil-dong had green eyes in the scene where his powers reawakened?
I's because he is a white tiger.

Ga-ryung is the blue-green dragon. I would guess her second character is ryung 龍 dragon. Probably her first is connected to Guanyin. Could be Ga 歌 song. Since Guanyin is the one who hears the cries of the people. Ga-ryung at the moment is the one who hears the song of the people. (Especially since she is blindfolded now).

I'm not quite sure who represents the other guardian gods of the people (I guess we can forget about the king...). We really need them, so that the people get the full Mandate of Heaven.

Gil-dong is the white tiger - Baekho
Ga-ryung is the blue-green dragon - Cheongryong
??? ist the black tortoise (snake-tortoise) - Hyeonmu
??? is the vermillion bird - Jujak

The thing is, I know only two other people that have special powers and that are Eunuch Kim and Mori. If they would fit for the job description, I guess Eunuch Kim would be the the vermillion bird. Eunuch Kim - because of the self dismemberment - reminds me of Nezha which would fit for a fire bird.

Mori would fit for the black snake-tortoise since he is definitely a black clad warrior. And he also fits the required Xuanwu description to a T (and it makes a lot more sense than what I thought about him before). Since Xuanwu changed his remorseless creature-slaying way of life when ... - that would be such a HUGE spoiler...

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I've actually been wondering about Eunuch Kim and how far his loyalty to the king will go, because it obviously upset him a great deal to be forced to drug Gil-dong before he was tortured, and he has enough of a moral compass to know that what the king is doing is wrong. But at the same time, he didn't spill the beans on Gil-dong and Nok-soo's relationship to Yeonsangun, and he doesn't appear to approve of the king's latest frivolities and murders even as he enables them. He's such a closed book.

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Yes, he is truly difficult to read! I find him quite intriguing! The scene, when he put the charcoal on Gil-dong and the scene when he was in prison feeding Gil-dong the poison: they are so different, you hated him in one and your heart went out for him in the other. Still it did feel in unison with the character.
I don't think he is approving of the king's actions either, but he had such a stone face when he went to get Ga-ryung! You couldn't even tell what he thought about that.

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I think the one major character trait he has is that he's seriously loyal to the king, and seems to think of him almost as a son (albeit a son who can give you orders and have you beheaded whenever) and genuinely believes in his job and wishes for the king's happiness. But there are layers and layers within that, which is what fascinates me so much about him.

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@latteholic
The taoist "(strawberry) kiss of tiger and dragon" is probably most of all a death and rebirth symbol.
The fertile energy they created in the prison scene, was a new lifebringing energy in the other (non down to earth) sense.

So sad, I wanted them to have some children too. But since Pila and grumpy man had seven sons, while Guanyin had 8 daughters, so Ga-ryung and Gil-dong will probably get 15 children later (I'll just pretend it, if the drama has a different ending...).

Perhaps the writer still used it in a double sense? (Hope dies last...)

Just for the others:

The Kiss of Tiger and Dragon in Taoism - Taosim: The way of Destroying the Roman :(

When the Tiger and Dragon mix their vapor it will bring forth active/fertile energy. The vapor starts down from the spine and gets into the head, when the vapors mix they will turn into a sweet, sticky liquid. The liquid will be swallowed and return to the spine.

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Romance not Roman.

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I was hoping for 10 kids, but 15 sounds better... :D
I don't know that wedding scene does imply that they will live happily ever after though as one big family..

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I was hoping they'd have at least two daughters named Seol-ran and Seol-hee like in Ga-ryung's story about the two lovers that was basically Ga-ryung and Gil-dong's situation. C'mon Ga-ryung, write into existence your children! That way you can survive and have them lol. There is lots of evidence for her survival... But y'know, we can't be 100% sure yet.

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Although that was writer-nim being cheeky and inserted the story of King Daughter Soo Baek Hyang, but yes I'm hoping also for the 2 daughters (ok. looks like I have enough story to be made into a fanfic if things go south in the next episode).

Gah. We have so many "hints" that GaRyung will survive that arrow wound and yet here I am still biting my nails for what is going to happen on episode 28. Because I don't know if I can handle losing Ga Ryung and seeing poor Gil Dong knows that he's the one who killed her.

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@latteholic Right? I'm just so unsure of how this story will go. It's just sooo 50/50 at this point. I just want them to retire to the country! I've never been so unsure of a potential death for a character, especially one that's been given to us since Episode 1.

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I believed Eunuch Kim to be another Mighty Child too previously but after that flying kick to Gil-dong, he has never used his power/never fight again. Not even for self-defense when Hong Chum-ji raided the palace. So I'm having second thought on his Mighty Child status. Hmmm maybe he's not even Mighty Child from the start, I was just mistaken.

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I think it comes with the child abuse angle. All the Mighty Children have to overcome it. Ga-ryung the inferiority feeling stemming from the fact she was rejected (that's also ignites the jealousy).
Mori has to overcome the -just following what was told- that comes with the direct physical abuse.
Eunuch Kim's parents were the kind of parents that expected too much responsibility from him while not taking any responsibility for him. They let himself sacrifice for them without second thought. He has to learn to say "no".

If he would relate to Nezha, a frenemy of Sun Wukong (Gil-dong), that fights against him for the palace but later fights with Sun Wukong - Nezha has a really sad story about dismembering himself (cutting himself into peaces) for the good of his parents and his village. The villagers build him a shrine in memory to his sacrifice, but his father burnt it down.
In a way - Yeonsan already made a mock out of Nezhas sacrifice, with his interpretation of Ga-ryung's small boy in the prospering village story.

I don't know if the children can show their full powers, before they have solved these issues. I also don't know if their powers all relate to strength, since Ga-ryung's are different.

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It seems like if Gil-dong, Mori, Eunuch Kim and Ga-ryung are all mighty children, then the males have more physical powers and the females have mental powers? Or maybe they all have different powers? We know for sure Gil-dong's is strength, but is Mori's and Shorty's also strength? It could be something like sending vibrations to beat the millstone...Who knows? I only bring this up since Ga-ryung's powers seem to be either mental...or astral projection in dreams, but unknowingly. Or Gil-dong is the only one having prophetic dreams and Ga-ryung isn't sending him anything at all. But who gets a prophecy dream literally 10 minutes before shit goes down? lol.

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I don't know if this is also the case in Korea...but in China, the dragon character, 龍, tends to be used only in given names for males, while the character the phoenix, 鳳, tends to be used for females. That being said, I know several Japanese women have had the dragon character in their names, like Sakamoto Ryoma's wife, Oryo/Ryo. (She saved him from assassination by running through an inn naked, after hearing about it in her bath, and warning him.)

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Wow, that was one brave woman! Overcoming shame is a pretty difficult thing to do. She clearly knew her priorities!

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It occurred to me last night while I was about to sleep that what's happening to Ga-ryung is literally Gil-dong's worst fear. I know he's said that he's afraid of seeing her tears, but when it comes down to it, he's always been afraid that just being associated with him was going to get her hurt. I mean, this guy still feels at fault for his mother's death. His father gets in the thug life to save him and his mom dies as a consequence of the Jos greed. Moreover, his entire family up until episode 20 is killed because of the lifestyle his father choose...It's also why it took so long for him to finally acknowledge Ga-ryung's feelings, his own and be with her. He was always terrified that his lifestyle would cause her harm/pain.

I think Gil-dong probably knew he had feelings for Ga-ryung by episode 14 after Mori threatens her, but he also knew that he shouldn't be with her because of his lifestyle. She was endangered because of him and he'll only hurt her. This is solidified for him in Episode 15 when she says she'd die if he got hurt again. So instead of becoming her lover, he chooses to be her brotherly orabeoni to take care of her. But he also tries his damndest to suppress his feelings for her. It all but kills him to have to set her up with another man, but he's going to try his best because he knows that it's the best for Ga-ryung to be safe...And her safety to Gil-dong is ultimately worth more than what he feels for her at the time. He sacrifices his happiness with her to keep her safe. But of course, Ga-ryung puts the axe on that when she outright confesses to him.

I don't think Gil-dong was blind to Ga-ryung's feelings for him, but I think he was also hoping that the time they spend together in a platonic manner would make their feelings go away. Except it didn't go the way he planned lol. His feelings only increased. Which is why he can barely contain his emotions when she's left and he finally decides that he can't be without her.

So even though the situation is different...it's still his worst fear. Ga-ryung is in danger because of him and he's going to get her killed. Plus everyone he loves dies.

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Random Nok-soo vs. Ga-ryung Incident Thoughts:

1.There’s this snakelike quality in her envy when she tells Ga-ryung she always wondered who Gil-dong would marry and was surprised it was Ga-ryung. You can see how much it eats at her that Ga-ryung’s trust and faith in Gil-dong paid off and Gil-dong was true to his word. I also find Ga-ryung’s jealousy of Nok-soo so real and honest. And I like the way she even admitted that to Gil-dong. She can’t help but feel that way even though she knows how he feels about her.

2. The way she wants to put down Ga-ryung’s love with Gil-dong by saying love lasts only for a season shows innately her jealousy. It’s why she turns Ga-ryung over to Yeonsangun. So that she could punish Gil-dong for loving someone else and also to test if their love really is true. She wants Ga-ryung to eat her words. It’s also interesting that Ga-ryung takes this as an affront to her husband and his character. It’s the fact that Nok-soo tosses aside her love for Gil-dong so easily that causes her to act the way she does and say that she hates Nok-soo.

3. It’s so fascinating that what causes Nok-soo to ultimately betray Ga-ryung is because her decision to remain by the king is questioned and she can’t STAND that it’s apparent she made the wrong one and lost everything and Ga-ryung gained everything. It’s also incredibly painful that everything that drove Ga-ryung’s decisions was based on thinking that her husband was dead.

4. The way Nok-soo crushed that flower was symbolic of her crushing Ga-ryung! If it's an azalea, it's also about Nok-soo destroying the last vestiges of home/herself. That flower is the only one that shows up repeatedly in this episode. Nok-soo’s deadness inside is CRAZILY emphasized in this episode…her black roses are back in the back of her head and that braid around her head with all the mini-braids that have multiplied looks more and more like a rope/noose around her. She’s wearing very ornate clothes, but the colours are darker and more deathly looking. And of course, those stone flowers in her hair.

5. Nok-soo knows how the king thinks very well and is able to save herself because of it, but I find it interesting that we see her looking in the mirror at least twice this episode. She’ll save herself, but will she be a person who can look at herself in the mirror from now on? But it’s also a symbol of vanity and pride…That is ultimately why she betrays Ga-ryung to the king…because her pride has been hurt by being confronted with making the wrong decision.

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More Random Nok-soo/Ga-ryung Thoughts:

6.Nok-soo, by abandoning Gil-dong and vowing to help Yeonsangun destroy him, has completely destroyed her soul. Her survival skills were in overdrive but she was ultimately right about what Yeonsangun needed from her. It’s funny, her pride and vanity makes her choose a man she knows is incapable of love and capable of great violence. That’s a craaaazy ass choice, girl. But she can’t stand that she chose wrongly.

7. The way Ga-ryung is so resigned and expectant to what is happening to her is just sad. Shorty looked so sad too. But I like that she has the fire to go out swinging. To the last, she is there for her husband, but also for the people Yeonsangun has killed. I also like that she goes in like a ghost and says that she will haunt the king with Gil-dong. It’s like the moment she thought Gil-dong had died, she was already dead and she’s already a ghost anyway.

8. Of course Nok-soo wants Ga-ryung spared just to punish her and Gil-dong. She’s truly reached her rock bottom. Her vengeance has destroyed her. I think she knows that…if her tears are anything to come by. The way she reveals to Ga-ryung that Gil-dong is alive is sooo cruel because by this point, there’s nothing Ga-ryung can do. Nok-soo is basically gloating, rubbing it in Ga-ryung’s face and then twisting the knife a little deeper with salt on the side. She is going to crush one of them, Gil-dong or Ga-ryung for the pain of the other. And she doesn’t care which because either way she wins…If Gil-dong kills her, Ga-ryung will know that Gil-dong didn’t love her. If Gil-dong rescues her, Ga-ryung will be forced to watch Gil-dong die and be punished for moving on. (Nok-soo couldn’t care less that they’ll sacrifice for the people.) But ultimately, this is about her jealousy and vengeance…Jealousy that Gil-dong loves Ga-ryung and revenge for the humiliation of her choices and their love. Why should she be the only one who feels pain? She’s going to make everyone suffer.

9. Also, she helped Gil-dong out earlier because she still thought of him as the guy who treasured/prized HER above all others. That changed when she realized that Gil-dong married Ga-ryung. Yes, she could still be the one he prized the most, but I think she realizes that she’s not. And she can’t stand that she’s the reason that her relationship with Gil-dong ended. Sure, she doesn’t expect Gil-dong to stay single forever, but she wants the guy to still see her as the one. I think she can read enough to know that he didn’t when he saw her in the jail/pen. Plus, I don’t think she really risked her own life all that much to help Gil-dong. She did what she could but I think if she had to choose between her own life and Gil-dong’s she would choose her own. This woman is about survival over all things.

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10. The way Ga-ryung tried so desperately to kill herself to spare her husband was so painful, but she’s like Gil-dong and that’s why they’re the true king and queen. They put the people first and are willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of everyone else. But damn if it’s not painful. I think Mori will definitely play into this later. He’s definitely affected by Ga-ryung and perhaps this will be some kind of redemption for him to help Ga-ryung…Maybe it will be what causes him to change sides. Guy’s nursing a one sided crush.

11. One third of trinity goddess also uses her flowers! Lol. I LOVE that Eorini now extends from just wanting to rescue Ok-ran to Ga-ryung too. It goes to show that despite her revenge, Ga-ryung never lost who she was and is also able to win a former enemy/antagonist to her side. She’s just like Gil-dong but it drove me CRAZY she didn’t tell Gil-dong her name. They were so close to figuring it out…and then, Ooops! Too late via Kweut Swe.

Secondly, did Gil-dong never tell Eorini he’s married? Like, how are they not having a conversation being all ‘My wife is Ga-ryung. I’m super googly eyed about her constantly and I wuv her.’ ‘Ga-ryung, huh? I know a Ga-ryung…’ Or is this a thing where they don’t’ think they know the same Ga-ryung since she was a little different once her husband was presumably dead. Since Gil-dong only knows the lively Ga-ryung.

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The fact that Gil-dong doesn't even have the time to tell Eorini he's married...it's kinda sad. Shows that he doesn't have time for himself now. His life is dedicated only to the people. My heart hurts seeing him in tears after the first fight with the soldiers. I can't imagine how heavy he feel in his heart at that moment. Meeting Ga-ryung in his dream with her smile at least consoles him a bit.

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T_T Until he sees her tied to the stake and he's just like T_T. Like literally, the poor guy's been dreaming about and longing for his wife for soooo many episodes and finally we get a reunion and it's sooo not what we wanted.

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10.) I found it interesting that Mori is the one that keeps Ga-ryung from killing herself. In the novels the ones who held her, so that she can't hang herself are the one or two other girls that later stay with Gil-dong and Gil-dong's wife.
Lol, the writer changed the hanging part into sharp objects and now it also fits the Miaoshan and Executioner story.

That's nice but very sad in regards to the Book of Changes.
And I'm honestly least concerned about Ga-ryung.
The Gil-dong, Gil-hyun, Eorini handholding is quite a fitting symbol. So we will have an unbroken, broken, unbroken line trigram (ri). And probably a broken, unbroken, broken trigram (gam). I guess they will leave new mom and dad as a symbol for the three unbroken lines trigram (geon) and the three broken lines trigram (gon) and not show them as trinities, because of the house og eight. Ga-ryung (yin) and Gil-dong (yang) present the center Taegeuk. The people for the harmonious universe are also there. Et Voila, that's one Taegeukgi (Korean flag).

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And by the way, did anybody notice that the shaman lives in the earth, while Eunuch Kim lives in the palace.

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What does that symbolize/mean?

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Lol, I had a very clever idea about that, but always, when I want to explain it, I think it makes no sense and then when I cancel it, I think it would have made sense. So, I decide now: it makes no sense!

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O.k., It does make sense. I thought they would present the father (sky) and mother (earth) in the House of Democracy. Only when I start to explain, I'll probably spoil terribly.

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@liina Maybe post it on your fanwall? Because I'd love to read it lol. Let me know if you do lol.

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Oooh. I just realized that Ok Ran is also there! And since Mori is also there, I guess we'll find out if they're related or not. I hope they will work together to save GaRyung. I was kinda disappointed that we didn't see much of Ok Ran being worried for Ga Ryung after she fed her porridge and also after she decided to not join the prison break.

Btw, I hope Mori represents one of the two girls that will later stay with Gil Dong and Ga Ryung ?

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I think that would also make everyone happy who had said, that Ga-ryung and Mori, or Ok-ran and Mori are siblings. :)

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We barely get a shot of her reaction to Ga-ryung in that crowd shot at the palace when Ga-ryung gets brought up before the king and goes for his ear. I wanna know how Gil-dong reacts when he finds that out.

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It’s interesting that the main characters are motivated by such noble causes – equality (Gil-dong), power (Yeonsangun), survival (Nok-soo) and revenge (Ga-ryung). But something as petty as jealousy also drives their actions, especially for the last 3. Yeonsangun could possibly have been jealous that Nok-soo was even in a relationship with his enemy (and hid it from him). Nok-soo is so jealous of Ga-ryung’s relationship with Gil-dong and growing favors with the king that she betrays Ga-ryung. And even in Ga-ryung, jealousy rears it head, prompting some awesome retort to Nok-soo. What does that say of Gil-dong, who wasn’t jealous of anyone? Or was he?

I really enjoyed the scenes with Ga-ryung and Nok-soo, and I give a lot of props to Chae Soo-bin and Honey Lee but also to the director and the editor (and frankly, to the production team). I felt a progression of Nok-soo’s feeling towards Ga-ryung: from happiness/shock when she first found out Ga-ryung was married, to the beginnings of that jealousy when Ga-ryung was moving up the ladder, to full on green-eyed monster mode when she found out Gil-dong was the husband. But nothing was ever said. It was the subtle pursing of the lips, tightening of the jaw, or a just a look. And the same goes for Ga-ryung… a subtle furrowing the eyebrows, the slight downturn of the lips, the shoulders dropping oh so slightly—you know she was sad and jealous and insecure. And as quiet as the women’s scenes were (no fighting, no yelling like the men’s scenes), they were pretty charged. I know directing techniques like closeups and such are pretty standard but when done right, the effect really enhances the scene/drama.

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Jealousy usually stems from the feeling of inadequacies and I always view it from two sides. On one side, jealousy is something that can be cute when it comes to the people you care about, simply because you care so much about them that you hope that they also feel the same way about you, and the thought of losing the love of that someone else reduced you into this petty person who would criticize others while also over-analyzing to come up with an excuse as to why you’re not in their position. This happened to GilDong when he thought that GaRyung finally had found someone else who's not him, and also to GaRyung when he thought about the time when GilDong was still holding on to Nok Soo.
On the other hand, coupled with self-ambition, jealousy could become a very dangerous thing, as seen from YiYung and Nok Soo. And the higher you think you are at above other people, the uglier the impacts it might be on others.
Gil Dong himself, I think, has let go of his selfish ambition. Also since his motivation is driven by equality, he basically cheers for other people. He thinks that there is enough sun for everyone as opposed to YiYung who thinks that the sun should only shine on him. And the thought of losing that spotlight to other people just drove him into all this killing spree.

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Like @latteholic pointed out, the only time Gil-dong's ever looked jealous is at the thought of Ga-ryung falling in love with/marrying another man. Which is pretty telling, since he never showed any sign of jealousy over Nok-soo, or even towards the king that Nok-soo chose over him.

It's also interesting that Yeonsangun and Nok-soo's jealousy is in large part what drives their more decisive actions, while with Ga-ryung it's more incidental.

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Yes...I would say the reasoning behind Ga-ryung's actions had more to do with Nok-soo belittling the time Nok-soo and Gil-dong spent together and the way she degraded Gil-dong's character. I got the sense she was angry that someone would view her husband like that since she feels so strongly about Gil-dong's strength of character. She believed Gil-dong would come back. She believes in the way Gil-dong helps others. She encourages it and helps him in that endeavour.

And her jealousy is more about the past and a situation that she can't help...that her husband came back for Nok-soo and not her. But it's not an active jealousy. I think Ga-ryung's reactions also showed more emotional maturity than Nok-soo. She acknowledged what she felt, that she was jealous...but in a way that let us know that she's not proud of what she feels because she's logically secure in Gil-dong's feelings for her, but emotionally, things can get under her skin.

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@cloveredlioness
In the Hong Gil-dong tale that place we are now, Fragrant city/castle :), is the realm/home of Gil-dong's wife. It is called the isle of Je, a place of love/marriage, family reunion and the burial place of the ancestors.

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Please let her survive on her home soil...Please let her survive! PLEASE LET HER SURVIVE lol.

Ancestors, hear my plea,
Help Gil-dong with his aim and see
Ga-ryung and not shoot her dead
So we can all watch sadness free!
/Mulan/a sort of really meta song and reference lol.

I watched the 'Girlfriend' video again. It's basically like the modern day version of Gil-dong pining for Ga-ryung for like the last 7 episodes lol. Except no one is in mortal danger or rebelling against the government. The girlfriend just had to go for maybe a business trip or conference or something? And the boyfriend is like...T_T your empty space everywhere...your toothbrush and your spot on the bed lol. He even has idyllic dreams of his girlfriend lol.

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The Girlfriend video is basically him having a long day at work and really, really needing the sight of her to feel better - something we don't get to see in kdramas without a set of episodes before that where the couple is at loggerheads first.

Which is, yeah, basically the modern version of Gil-dong seeing Ga-ryung in his head after a long day of fighting, only this time they get to hug and he doesn't have to shoot her. (seriously that hug in the video was such a good one, it looked like an actually believable couple hug)

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Also, I'm totally convinced they got the idea of Chae Soo-bin as leading lady here because of that video.

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Lol, right? But I also don't know of any other actress in their 20s who could have pulled off the Ga-ryung role. You have to be able to initially look like a girl in her late teens, then be mature enough to get married and want to assassinate the king as revenge. From what I know, Chae Soo-bin has sageuk experience plus crazy acting chops. I'm sure the connection with Yoon Kyun-sang didn't hurt either since they did have great chemistry. Because I don't think either of them have really had to do a drama where they had to portray a couple in love with each other or an OTP. (Could be wrong though...I've followed YKS more than CSB...but I think I'll be checking out her previous works more now lol.)

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I think they could have managed the aging part with some judicious styling, but the trickier part is that they had to get an actress who can pull off the sweetness of early Ga-ryung and the intensity and desperation of her tied to the stake in the first scene (it's no mean feat that she pulled it off with half her face - and her eyes, at that - hidden).

If you're going to look for CSB's previous work, you should def. check out Sassy Go Go - on the surface, it couldn't be more different from Rebel - it's a modern drama, a high school one no less, she plays the chief antagonist, and (cherry on the cake here) Kim Ji-suk plays her nice teacher whose life she would like to ruin - BUT she is one of the best-written and most sympathetic villains I've ever seen in any drama and the cast, young as they may be, are no slouches. (also Chae Soo-bin has incredible chemistry with Jung Eun-ji). And it's only 12 episodes long, so not even a major time commitment compared to most dramas.

I'm personally interested in My Catman because I really want to see her with Im Shi-wan (the stills alone suggest serious sparks) but I don't expect much from a web drama.

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She had this adorable chemistry with Lee Sang Yeob in the House of The Bluebird. They were almost the OTP in that show because it took a while for the main couple to get together.
I also haven't been following her previous works that much, but I think she really is a scene stealer in the two times that I've watched her dramas: Spy and House of The Bluebird. Both which I couldn't really finish, unfortunately

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Also, it's pretty well known that for a LOT of dramas, talent is entirely a secondary consideration when it comes to lead roles, particularly female ones. And lead roles for younger actresses are notoriously hard to get, no matter how talented they are - MBC/KBS/SBS have handed leads to some real stinkers in the past because they were popular or had tons of endorsements or were idols. They could easily have chosen someone not even a quarter as good as CSB, given her relative newness in the industry/lack of previous weekday drama lead roles...... if it wasn't for the likelihood that casting YKS (after Ji-sung and Namgoong Min turned the role down) likely meant they had to scope for a younger female lead than they would have had otherwise. And when they had one in the right age range who'd worked with him before (chemistry established) AND could act, I'm guessing that's what secured her the role.

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I personally thought that they chose Chae Soo Bin as their leading lady after Moonlight with its high ratings (and Yoon Kyun Sang after Doctors, even if they casted him based on his appearance in TMAD). Considering Moonlight and Doctors got ratings more than 20%, they might be hoping that some of those viewers would check YKS/CSB's next drama.

It's also satisfying to know that YKS and CSB's first drama as the lead has been able to pull half the number from their previous drama's rating when they were the second lead.

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Usually second leads (especially women) don't really benefit from being part of popular dramas, all the attention tends to go to the main leads unless you end up with a scene-stealer second lead like Lee Yuri (Jang Bo-ri Was Here) or the drama goes out of its way to play up its second leads (like a lot of Kim Eun-sook dramas).

Either way, whatever it was, I'm glad these two are the ones we landed up with in lead roles - It's fitting that the drama about underdogs chose to go with two new actors as leads and no idols. (see, your drama can do just fine and even better than idol dramas in ratings if you actually bother to cast it right!)

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It's a very calm and charming musicvideo.
- It was referenced in the drama as well, in the first kiss scene. When Ga-ryung's bundle falls out of her hands. In the MV it's the bag with her groceries. ;)

These two are so sweet. I wouldn't mind to just take them and put them in my next drama as well.

I also really like the Gilryung love story. It build up slowly, became warm and full of concern for each other and grew so strong. You also can fully support it, because you have the feeling they complete each other well. That they nourish the best in each other. It's speaks of a promises of a happy and lasting union.

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Regarding the geo-in, the cart people.
I know it refers to people that get brainwashed, but does it refer to school pupils too? - Because Eorini described a school situation and it all kind of echoes Herman Hesse's novel "Under the Wheel"?

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I guess you could put it that way. I would think that the Sugwidan's people wrote Uhrini's name on the book when they found her before the brainwashing started.

Also that got me thinking about Song Sabu, I wonder if he would join forces with the officials to overthrown YiYung (lol. This name is much easier to write and I don't have to look up the correct spelling). That would go against his principal, but I wonder if his ambitions would get the better of him.

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And I meant, when they recruited the kids, they're already assigned as Geoin. So I guess while in training to be a spy (pupils), you can refer to them as geoin?

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Ah, I meant it differently. I wanted to ask if the word geo-in stands for school pupils, since "Under the Wheel" is a book about the school pupils that "fell from the cart and got under the wheel". Pupils where school killed the freedom of creativity and the development of the mind. The drill school system. I think the main pupil from "under the wheel" committed suicide.

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Oops. My bad. I should have wiki-ed that before answering. Now you make want to read that novel! :)
But it's an appropriate title for geoin.

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