The K2: Episode 6
by gummimochi
New dangers are in store for Je-ha, and they’ll require the use of his heart rather than his gun. Reopening deep emotional wounds can often be an unpleasant task, but if that’s the cost of getting one step closer to the bottom of the truth, then our bodyguard is more than willing to pay that price.
EPISODE 6 RECAP
Following a lengthy series recap, we pick back up at the sub-basement where Je-ha steps into an empty corridor that leads him to a glass door that requires a two-step identification verification for entry.
Behind that door houses an expansive glass conference room, where Yoo-jin, Secretary Kim, the head of JSS, and Chief Joo are reviewing the profiles of the scholarship foundation’s board of directors who had sought after her dismissal.
Je-ha takes a seat as we zoom in on the ongoing conversation inside. Yoo-jin plans for a long, grueling legal case against one director and putting him on a recruiter’s blacklist. There’s video proof of another director getting it on with another woman, which Yoo-jin says they can expose to the world and have someone make sexual assault claims against him.
But then on second thought, Yoo-jin decides that the director’s children should see that video first. Everyone else is taken aback by those words, and she finishes Chief Joo’s sentence about the children’s reaction to seeing a sexual video of their father: “Wouldn’t they want to commit suicide?”
Or maybe not, with this video alone, she concludes. But the topic of death has been lingering in her mind—when she was faced with the rest of the family at the funeral, she had thought to herself what method of death would bring the least amount of pain?
Seeing Je-ha waiting patiently outside, her face splits into a faint smile before composing herself once more.
Anna overhears Mi-ran and gossiping about Je-ha being part of Cloud Nine downstairs. Mi-ran’s world comes crashing down when she realizes that means there’s no one on night duty tonight, and Anna looks up to the cameras.
Je-ha steps inside the glass-encased conference room once the others leave. He admits he’s impressed by this structure Yoo-jin probably spent a pretty penny to have built. Not only are they several stories underground, but it’s also soundproof, making it ideal in keeping out potential eavesdroppers.
He gets right to the point—why did she call him here? She wants to hear every bit of his life story because not everyone runs into a den of enemies with an umbrella and handkerchief these days. She’s curious about the man behind those actions, and when Je-ha asks what she really wants to hear, she raises her eyebrows in surprise. “But it’s true,” she thinks to herself.
Since she’s heard about his army days, Yoo-jin says she’d like to learn more about his time in Iraq. She tells him: “Soon we’ll begin the hunt on Park Kwan-soo. Is that enough of a reason for you?”
His eyes flicker, attentive now, as she reminds him that no one will know what they share here thanks to these soundproof walls. He asks who’s listening in on the mics in this room then, and Yoo-jin identifies the computerized voice as her Magic Mirror, like the one in Snow White.
He scoffs at that, so to prove it, Yoo-jin chants, “Mirror, mirror, who in this land is fairest of all?” Her computerized magic mirror voice answers, “Snow White.”
While Anna picks up on a news story about her father visiting a church tomorrow, Yoo-jin shares how her Magic Mirror is smarter than the other artificial intelligence systems available today.
This room acts like the brain of JSS, a hub that stores all the secrets of the world. Her Magic Mirror is a highly-advanced software whose function is to comb through all that information and give her the most accurate answers to her questions. So if Je-ha shares his story, Magic Mirror will satiate his curiosity.
“Why do you think there would be things I’m curious about?” Je-ha posits in return. Yoo-jin replies that he wouldn’t have joined the JSS if he weren’t curious. She knows he doesn’t have a comeback for that, and tells him that she’s the only one who can access the encrypted data because Magic Mirror only responds to her voice commands.
Anna sneaks downstairs into Mi-ran’s room, rummaging through her drawers for her JSS ID badge. She takes a few more items, then discovers a stash of syringes.
We cut back to the glass house where Yoo-jin asks what happened to him and why he’s after Representative Park. Je-ha sits down and breathes deeply before starting his story about Rania.
We’re taken back to the day of Representative Park’s visit to the Blackstone campsite when Je-ha had seen the secret deal go down. He had tried to grab her attention for a few moments before settling in for a nap in his car.
Representative Park had given another mercenary a nod before climbing into his car, and Je-ha had witnessed Rania being taken. We know how this story goes—a gunshot followed by him seeing her body on the ground.
But we learn something new now: someone knocks him out with a punch, and Je-ha found a gun in his hand when he’d come to. He’d thrown it aside to stagger toward Rania’s body, and was still wailing when he’d been apprehended.
He’d essentially been framed for Rania’s murder and managed to escape a week later. Representative Park had been long gone by then, and the private military company had already moved their campsite. So he traveled with a group of Syrian refugees and eventually made it to Europe.
“That’s the reason why I must kill Park Kwan-soo,” he states, his bottom lip quivering. Yoo-jin considers that a good enough reason, so she instructs her computer to answer all of Je-ha’s questions.
Per Je-ha’s request, Magic Mirror brings up Representative Park’s activities on September 15, 2015. But when he asks to learn why the politician was at the Blackstone campsite that afternoon at 15:30, the computer is unable to identify why.
Yoo-jin instructs her computer to widen its search parameters, and now Magic Mirror states there was a 53.3 percent chance the politician was in a secret meeting. When Je-ha asks with whom Representative Park was speaking with, the computer asks for a location.
He gives it, and the computer generates four names: Representative Park, Rania, an unidentified Blackstone agent, and the leader of the Kumar group Abdul Omar. He asks for the reason for their meeting, only for the computer to state that the reason is unknown.
So Je-ha asks why Representative Park had Rania killed, to which Magic Mirror says there is a 68 percent chance it was because she knew information that couldn’t be leaked. Je-ha slams his fist on the table upon seeing the results, and asks to find out what the men discussed.
But that information can’t be traced either, and Yoo-jin says it’s pointless to inquire more deeply when the data isn’t there. Then Magic Mirror states that Abdul Omar escaped the CIA’s grasp two weeks following that meeting and assembled a new military group.
Yoo-jin wonders if that means Representative Park has been supplying arms to Abdul Omar’s men.
Meanwhile, Anna sneaks outside dressed in Mi-ran’s suit after slipping some of the contents of the syringe into her mug. She jumps when the security car outside flashes its headlights, and she uses her earpiece to communicate that she’s out for an errand.
Anna climbs into a taxi by early morning and sticks her head out the window to feel the breeze. She puts on her sunglasses to protect her sensitive eyes.
Yoo-jin surmises that Je-ha must’ve loved Rania, but he isn’t sure whether he found love during the most miserable days of his life or what he felt was useless compassion. “Useless?” Yoo-jin repeats, and Je-ha explains that he was the one who introduced Rania to the Blackstone mercenaries.
Je-ha gets up to leave, but he refuses the offer to stay in the JSS residences just because he’s part of Cloud Nine now. But Yoo-jin emphasizes that she protects her inner circle including their families.
He says that sounds an awful lot like calling him her slave, and Yoo-jin says she’s never betrayed anyone who hasn’t ever betrayed her. To that, Je-ha bites back: “There’s no such thing as a master who does not betray his slave.”
He turns to leave, but then looks back at her: “There are people who don’t betray their friends, though. Isn’t that right… friend?”
Anna gets off at her old neighborhood and stands outside her childhood home. She thinks back to happier times with her mother when they would cook outside and dance together, a memory that brings tears to her eyes.
We briefly check in on Je-ha’s ride back from the JSS headquarters, where the bodyguard who drove him there believes that Je-ha had failed to be included in the elusive Cloud Nine.
Anna imagines more happier memories with Mom while she roams the streets. Seeing an old photo of her and her mother on display outside a local photo studio, she inquires about it with the owner who needs a little push to remember her.
The owner remembers Mom with fondness, sharing how the movie star once came in with Anna to have her passport photo taken before she left for the States. Evidently Mom had also wanted a family portrait as well, so the photo on display was of her, Anna, and a family friend.
He shows Anna how he folded the photo so that the third subject wouldn’t appear in the frame. Seeing the photo now, Anna remembers that there was a family friend.
So when Je-ha returns to the house to find Mi-ran asleep and Anna gone, Chief Joo calls his superior to suggest that that they search for Anna without letting Yoo-jin know. He berates Mi-ran for her ineptitude and breathes a sigh of relief when she gets transaction updates on her phone because Anna is using her credit card.
Anna takes another taxi to pay a visit to that family friend who resides at a sanatorium. She finds the woman lying in her bed, barely lucid. She calls Anna by her mother’s name Hye-rin, and asks for food.
Anna bends down again and identifies herself. This time the woman repeats her name correctly, then rises from her bed in alarm, calling Anna by her mother’s name again. “Hurry and run away! Go to America with Anna!”
“Choi Yoo-jin has found out everything! Run away!” the woman cries. “That person will kill you and Anna! You must hurry!” Anna is taken aback by the woman, but now she has confirmation that Yoo-jin wanted her and her mother dead. She tries prying for more information, but the woman has slipped back to her babblings.
Thanks to her stolen earpiece, Anna finds out that the JSS agents have arrived at the sanatorium. Mi-ran checks the patient’s room but Anna is nowhere to be found. Je-ha isn’t surprised that the news of Anna’s disappearance has reached Se-joon’s ears when he calls Chief Joo, though Se-joon has instructed that Anna doesn’t show up at his scheduled church appearance today.
Just then, someone walks out the door behind them—it’s Anna, disguised as a nun and telling herself that her father is under Yoo-jin’s influence.
Yoo-jin and Se-joon look like saints when they help an elderly woman up the hill to the church. Conversely, Representative Park’s car obnoxiously honks its horn to make way, much to the attendees’ chagrin.
Se-joon and Yoo-jin help the elderly woman to the pew, then nervously look around hoping that Anna isn’t around. Representative Park loudly insists that they join him in the front pew, and sees the couple modestly accept seats next to the old woman.
Once Mass begins, Anna enters the church with a group of nuns. She sees her father in the pews and utters, “Dad.” Se-joon narrows his eyes to get a closer look, then looks away.
Anna sees her father quietly grab Yoo-jin’s attention, and Yoo-jin turns from surprise to bewilderment once she sees Anna. She texts a clue to Chief Joo, who then relays the intel to the rest of the team.
The priest stops the JSS agents from interrupting the service to apprehend Anna. She remains standing even after the song ends, her tear-filled eyes fixed on her father. Je-ha internally tells Anna not to expose herself and calls off the order to move in.
The priest says there’s another song, and Anna opens her mouth to sing “Amazing Grace.” Her angelic voice carries throughout the chapel, and the other nuns join in on the next verse.
Tears roll down Anna’s cheeks and drop from nearly every eye of the attendees, including angry ones from Yoo-jin. Once the song is over, Je-ha takes a few steps toward her and stops, trying to communicate to her with his eyes: “Don’t do it, Anna-yah. You can’t.”
Anna stands for a few more moments then walks off to the side. She turns to get one last glimpse of her father and Yoo-jin’s scowl. Je-ha tries catching up to the nuns to find Anna, but she’s already gone.
One nun hands him a note, though, and he delivers that to Se-joon. In it, Anna writes that she must’ve lost her way. She asks that her father come and get her: “You know where that is, don’t you?”
Se-joon is well aware that everything will come crashing down if Anna’s identity is exposed to the world now. What he wants to know is how Anna was treated that she would resort to such extreme measures, but Yoo-jin will have none of it today and tells him to figure out the location in Anna’s note.
When he says he doesn’t know, which Yoo-jin finds hard to believe. Even she’s saddened by how Anna is convinced that a father like him would come and find her. She instructs Chief Joo to leave, and now that they’re alone, she reminds him of the last breakfast she ever made for him fourteen years ago.
She wouldn’t have despised Se-joon as much as she does now if he had just left her that day. That was the day the news of Anna’s mother’s supposed suicide hit the front page, and Se-joon had dropped a cup in shock.
Before he could storm out, Yoo-jin had threatened him that Anna would die if he left now. Back in the present, Se-joon asks, “Should I have left Anna to die in your hands then?”
“You murderer,” he sighs. Yoo-jin had shared a similar thought—that Se-joon was trying to protect Anna from her, but now they both know the real reason why Anna was kept hidden from the world: “You were afraid that Anna would be an obstacle to your ambition!”
Whereas the JSS is nowhere near cracking Anna’s code, we see Anna sitting alone on a park bench. She remembers the day she went to the amusement park with her parents, who did their best to make sure she had a good time.
When the speakers made an announcement about a missing child, Se-joon had asked young Anna what to do if she ever lost her way. He was impressed when she chirped that she’d take a taxi, then asked what she’d do if she were abroad.
“I’d have to hurry and find you,” she’d answered. Se-joon had bent down to meet her eye level and explained how it’d be impossible for him to find her if she kept running around. Instead, she should stay put at the exact location where they lost one another.
“No matter how scared you get, you must endure and wait,” he’d instructed. “Then I’ll come find you where you are.” Young Anna had told him that he had to promise to come and get her.
So that park bench must be where Anna and her father had lost one another. A pair of girls stop to take a selca, unaware that Anna is in the background.
But that photo pops up on the JSS’ systems, and the agents are sent to her location. In the car, Je-ha asks Team Leader Seo for a favor.
Anna prays in earnest, and when she opens her eyes, she sees her father walking towards her with a big smile and an ice cream in each hand. She smiles, and the camera pans behind her to reveal that it’s actually Je-ha.
She looks crestfallen, and Je-ha tells her that her father was busy, so he sent him. He takes a seat next to her and says she put up a strong front back at the church. But she’s still fixated on her father’s reaction to her sudden appearance. Was he mad?
Je-ha says somewhat unconvincingly that her father was worried about her, and offers up the ice cream, telling her that her father wanted her to have it. She accepts it, since it’s from Dad after all.
While Team Leader Seo and the other JSS keep watch from a distance, Anna shares how this park used to be an amusement park called Dreamland. She describes that it was also her own sort of “dream world”, a phrase she says in Spanish.
She was so happy that she got to spend time with her father back then, because that gave her something to brag about. He empathizes with the joyful childhood memory, but her breathing becomes increasingly shallow as she says she couldn’t brag because no one was supposed to find out who her father was.
She struggles to breathe as she shares how her mother told her that her father was a powerful man, and bad people will come and harass him if they ever found out about them. She didn’t know what that meant at a young age, and she gasps to say the next few words: “But I was afraid… of the bad people… harassing my father… so I think I held it in.”
She’s gasping now, and Je-ha places a hand on her arm, asking if she’s okay. She utters in Spanish: “Wishful thinking.” Fighting for breath now, Anna says she realized that she was that very bad person all along.
With that, Anna faints in his arms. Je-ha calls for an ambulance while Chief Joo learns that Anna has a severe strawberry allergy.
Je-ha reports that Anna has a faint pulse, and he’s instructed to make sure that Anna keeps breathing. So he starts mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and screams at her to wake up. She opens her eyes for a brief moment before slipping into unconsciousness once more.
COMMENTS
As much as I’d been looking forward to Anna’s re-emergence into the world, I have to say watching her behaviors and actions in this episode was disorienting. Gone is the girl holed up in her room and avoiding strangers, because now she’s been replaced by a girl able to both initiate conversations with strangers and is surprisingly okay with personal space.
Sure Je-ha isn’t exactly a stranger to Anna, but their interactions have been limited and short in duration so far, save for the two nights he was on night duty. But it’s strange to watch Anna act as if her social phobia was a thing of the past now that she’s thrust into the real world. What’s even more astounding is that she can even correct people and clarify what she actually means, which begs the question—if she’s been kept hidden for so long, where did she learn these communication skills from?
Her proactive decision to sneak out and find her father is less surprising, since we’ve been told that was her primary reason for escape. Once she learned that her father was in Madrid, she ran out of the monastery with purpose, even if it meant running barefoot. We saw some progression when she had cleverly used a thermal blanket as a cover, but that simple trick suddenly evolved into a much more complex level of foresight in her latest escape and a master of disguise. So while I’m glad that we are seeing Anna has a sense of agency when there is a motivation, the leap was so great that I’m not sure what the requirements are for Anna to have a sense of agency—access to resources? A familiar environment? Superpowered ramyun?
Or perhaps it’s because the writing would like to push the reminder that this story contains some fairytale influences from Snow White. Yoo-jin would be the evil stepmother seeking to rule a kingdom while trying to do away with the fairest in all the land, Anna. And who should she send but her own huntsman Je-ha. If we’re following the fairytale now, many of us will know that the Huntsman shows compassion to Snow White, which is similar to how Je-ha sees Anna at present.
Even though Je-ha had lied about acting under her worried father’s commands, I still found it a bit strange how she opened up to him so quickly. It seems that night in Spain when he left her to her captors is a long lost memory in Anna’s mind because there isn’t an ounce of resentment in her voice when she’s speaking to him. Bringing it up now makes it seem like I’m the one holding a personal grudge in her stead, but surely that moment of abandonment in her greatest time of need would bring with it some relational consequences?
Speaking of relationships, I thoroughly enjoy watching Je-ha and Yoo-jin electrifying interactions onscreen. Not only is Yoo-jin genuinely interested in Je-ha’s backstory, she also knows she has something to gain (bringing down Representative Park) if she can help Je-ha exact his revenge. I’m relieved that Cloud Nine is a possible outlet for him to vent, and this fancy software will hopefully be a helpful way to acquire more information later on. What’s important is that Je-ha is part of Yoo-jin’s inner circle now, and he’s right to take her word of trust with a grain of salt because you could work for years to build her trust, but it takes just one moment to destroy it.
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1 Jennifer Calabrese
October 9, 2016 at 8:02 PM
So it turns out that they spent so much money building mommy dearest a dungeon that they don't have enough left over to buy an epi-pen (yes, I saw the House Oversight Committee Hearings on the rise of epi-pen costs and they really are that expensive)
But seriously, these bodyguards who are supposed to protect her life can track her whereabouts based on a twitter picture of some random stranger's but they don't know the person they are guarding has a life threatening allergy to strawberries...my mind can not suspend disbelief that much!!
On another note, too bad they couldn't get in another Subway PPL had K2 brought her a sandwich and she was allergic to tomatoes instead of the ice cream!
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jomo143
October 9, 2016 at 8:22 PM
I know. First question is always: Any allergies?
That info would have been in her file at the top, and if it weren't, it should be something JH asked.
The cook would have told him, too. Not to bring any strawberries into the house.
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Julz
October 9, 2016 at 10:28 PM
Ok, the plot may be a bit tad unbelievable in terms of Anna's enhanced social skills, but since the show seems to want us to get that she's really really smart, whatever. Besides that though, I did buy her interactions with Je-Ha, partially because we know she knows him as the guy who brought her ramyun, and that bit of kindness may lead into trust. Also, the actress playing Anna is really good! People seem to attribute Yoo-Jin as the master actress here so Anna is at a disadvantage because she's had less screen time, but dang, the last scene though. You could just catch barest traces of her knowing that it was all a lie, and her poisonous stares in other parts of the episode were killer.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 10:40 PM
"[T]he actress playing Anna is really good!"
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I'm glad you are enjoying her acting. I too think Yoona is doing a wonderful job.
I hope you enjoy the rest of the show!
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imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 9:42 PM
Ha ha.. it would have been hilarious if she had been allergic to tomatoes while eating a sub. But, I don't think it would have been good PPL, people may not want to eat subs if they think it could be deadly ;)
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Yoyo
October 9, 2016 at 11:17 PM
I would have died laughing if Je-ha responded to his Team Leader by saying, "Sorry. I didn't get the memo."
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heavensent03
October 10, 2016 at 2:13 AM
Did you notice J4 had an upset stomach after eating Subway? It's why Anna was able to sneak out. :D lol
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jaesukisourgod
October 10, 2016 at 9:58 AM
I noticed this and I had to pause and laugh at the bad PPL. how this could be approved, I don't get it lmao
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Alessar
October 10, 2016 at 11:06 AM
She ate TWO though ^_^
shuerei
October 10, 2016 at 12:34 PM
Alessar, I agree! Hahaha ok J4 really ate too much...
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Overall, I think the writing/directing lacks finesse:
- I am not so convinced about the love story between JH and Rania. It seemed to be a little bit rushed. Were they even dating before he kissed her?
- Seriously, both ramen scenes were rather long and his longing gazes and gleeful gestures at her were rather corny...
- Regarding Anna's latest interactions and street smart attempts to leave, I agree that it was a big leap from her desperate barefooted escape in Spain. Here, she was more very much calmer and inventive.
However pertaining her social phobia, I think that was invented as an excuse to keep her a prisoner in the convent. I don't think she was a total recluse until she couldn't form proper communication. I believe she was given proper education and had acquired plenty of knowledge from her daily TV viewing. She must have spent at least 16 hours a day watching everything from news to dramas. I just wish some part of that could be written in to humor the viewers.
And I think it seemed perfectly alright for her to trust JH. Even though he didn't rescue her at the end, he did fight off several people in the beginning for her. I think she is mature enough to recognise that he did try at the very least. And he certainly had no obligation to do that for her so I don't think she held any grudges against him. And who knows, she might be a bit grateful for that brief moment of help and hope he gave her. Also, she may have warmed up to him knowing he prepared the ramen cooking tools for her.
refeint
October 15, 2016 at 7:33 PM
Am I really the only one who thinks that Yoona is not fit for this role? Okay, fine, it's true that her acting has gotten a LOT better from the previous dramas she starred in - You Are My Destiny, Cinderella Man, Love Rain, and Prime Minister and I (which, btw, all but "You are My Destiny" received low ratings).
But I feel that if it had been another actress playing Anna, I would have definitely enjoyed the drama much more. When Yoona cries, she makes these sounds as if a 5-year old is crying, and I can't even see a lot of tears (technically, I shouldn't judge her acting by the amount of tears, but still, it's pretty bad even when leaving that part out).
The worst part is that Anna cries A LOT in several scenes, especially if you've already watched episode 7 or 8. I personally don't like Anna as a character, because she's portrayed so weak (which, considering how she's been living in an isolated monastery for 10+ years, kind of makes sense), weepy girl. I always have to cringe and skip the parts when she cries because those scenes are so stretched out (GODS, have you watched the scene where she cries on the roof in episode 8? AGAIN?).
What are your thoughts on this..?
Inn
October 9, 2016 at 10:22 PM
"If it's from dad then I have to eat it."
She knew she's allergic to strawberry but chose to eat it because it's from dad. That was a strong message because as long as it's from dad, anything will do.
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Lord Cobol
October 9, 2016 at 10:51 PM
Yes, Anna would have known about her allergies, and would have figured her dad would know. So when she heard that he sent her the strawberry ice cream she would have thought her father was telling her to die. If you are looking for a way to make a sad story even sadder, that should do it.
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shelly
October 10, 2016 at 1:24 AM
that's what i took from it, too. dad was telling her he won't be coming, why won't she die already? and she was thinking she was that bad person anyway - it's heartbreaking.
of course, je ha couldn't have known she is allergic, he didn't get any info, and i wonder if anyone actually knows, home team aside. je ha is new in their outfit and he joined for a different reason than to guard her. maybe they didn't give him any of her files.
or maybe yoo jin doesn't care enough to make sure anna doesn't die from it - it would totally be an accident. except the part where she's needed to control dad. i guess it's an accident all the way around - except for anna, who now thinks dad too wants her to die.
as for her social phobia - she was raised by nuns, not in a cave. she escaped numerous times. she would have had to interact with lots of people over the years, learn a lot of sneaky ways to get away, etc. i don't think she's phobic - maybe she has PTSD too because of the flashes - but the social phobia is such a nice explanation on why she has to stay hidden and away from everyone.
yoo jin is the evil queen, je ha is the hunter... oh no... i don't want another man to play the prince!!
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Mimi
October 10, 2016 at 3:16 AM
I want to add something about social phobia: it's not debilitating. Having it doesn't mean you can't communicate with people or any of the things Anna did in this episode..it shouldn't be surprising that she did all that.
I have had social phobia and social anxiety for years, and I can still interact with people to a degree and get things done.English isn't my first language,sorry.
Anyway, my point is that social phobia manifests differently for different people.I can still sometimes attend school or go out, it's just really hard.
Kpop idol Suga has rapped about his social phobia too, and he has to perform on stage despite it, so please don't be so surprised by Anna. It wasn't all that unrealistic actually.
H4
October 10, 2016 at 5:31 AM
@shelly
You are right that Anna was raised by nuns, not in a cave. It's just that she was prevented to go out of the monastery. She even speaks well Spanish, and still keeps speaking Korean well after years in Spain. Totally agreed with you that social phobia is an excuse for people (in this case, staffs beside the housekeeper and J4) not to approach.
hibeautiful
October 10, 2016 at 6:56 AM
I don't know much about social phobia, but Anna REALLY looks like a normal person when she wanders around the town and talks to people, which seems unbelievable IMHO.
I saw some pics from the filming site before I watched this episode. I totally thought the cause of her getting a CPR from Je-ha was her problem with the sunlight or social phobia, but it turned out completely different, so ... :|
Jig
October 10, 2016 at 8:21 AM
Has it ever been shown that she had social phobia or did the JSS agents just say she had it? Because everything the JSS agents said, I took with a grain of salt. I think they've been lied to or they lied to Je-ha so that their imprisonment of her doesn't sound so bad.
misschili
October 10, 2016 at 10:59 AM
I use to be very social (years ago) but after going through a few things, I'm actually very anti-social and have anxiety now. Of course, I'm still able to talk to the clerk at the store, the stranger complimenting my hair, and my coworkers. BUT of course, keeping things to a minimum and keeping my distance. I'm also very self aware, cautious, and watch my actions as well as theirs at all times.
"Social Phobia" is described as someone who has a fear of social interactions b/c it causes anxiety, embarrassment, or self-consciousness. I don't know much about this condition but I would assume that Anna's condition is something else. I'm just assuming here - maybe she's able to communicate with strangers but not comfortably or fully. When she's confronted by Yoo Jin, JSS guards, or people that she feels might harm her, she acts out with panic. I would assume social phobia to be similar to social anxiety or just anxiety in general. I'm not sure though since we haven't seen much of her. I need to see more before I can conclude my observations.
nchoe
October 9, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Or...
She knows Jae Ha is lying to her since Daddy dearest knows she's allergic to strawberry and won't ever give her strawberry ice cream.
She tries so hard to antagonize Yoo Jin to justify her Daddy's absence and lack of interest in her. But now, after the church incidence and how her Dad didn't come to pick her up, it's hard for her to come back to her constant state of denial. She gotta face the harsh truth that her Daddy, even though he loves her, sees her as a potential threat to his ambition.
So she probably wants to die and eat that strawberry ice cream anyway.
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Dada
October 10, 2016 at 12:14 AM
I totally agree with your comment. I think she ate that because she wanted to die since she has already concluded (as everyone in this episode) that her father's ambition comes first before her and not just because of Yoo Jin.
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Mónica Lozano
October 10, 2016 at 9:21 AM
I hope she gets that message, that her father has no interest in her... because i am getting tired of her believing her father is Saint Se Joon who is being held captive by the evil witch Yoo Jin.
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Inn
October 9, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Oh, I forgot to add how it irk me when people do CPR just for the sake of it. There's steps and rules on proper CPR, not just blowing air into someone's lung.
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Jennifer Calabrese
October 9, 2016 at 10:48 PM
Not to mention that rescue breathing when her throat closes up doesn't help!
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Lord Cobol
October 9, 2016 at 10:54 PM
"they don’t have enough left over to buy an epi-pen"
Or an asthma inhaler. They are cheaper and her symptoms looked more like allergies than asthma to me. I'd expect Anna to have one of her own, for that matter, although I'm not sure she'd use it in that situation.
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Lord Cobol
October 9, 2016 at 11:34 PM
more like ASTHMA than ALLERGIES :(
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kaybee
October 10, 2016 at 2:58 AM
One of the possible severe allergic reactions is the throat swelling up inside. Meaning you can't breathe and end up dead if you don't get a shot/antihistamine. Asthma meds works in a completely different way and would not be of any help.
Asthma isn't triggered by a specific food source. Though the two diagnoses often go hand in hand, they're very different from each other - different reasons and different meds.
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ashie
October 10, 2016 at 10:07 AM
+100000
Lord Cobol
October 10, 2016 at 1:15 PM
Well, *my* asthma is triggered by foods -- lots of them. Corn, tomatoes, bananas, some preservatives, avocados, cinnamon, walnuts, etc, etc, etc. I have to be super careful what I eat, and I never go anywhere without my inhaler.
kaybee
October 10, 2016 at 3:43 PM
@Lord Cobol
Huh, interesting. I've dealt a lot with both diagnoses and that's the first time I've heard of something like that. Usually it's called allergy, not asthma, when triggered by food, but maybe there's differing opinions within different countries' medical worlds?
Lord Cobol
October 10, 2016 at 5:51 PM
I get different symptoms from different foods. The allergist I saw after it all started suddenly a few years ago said "asthma".
At that time my main symptom was extreme shortness of breath -- eat the wrong thing and spend the next 40 minutes panting and feeling too weak to move -- sounds like classic asthma from what I have read.
Later I found that other foods cause coughing fits, tears in my eyes, etc. More like what I think of as allergies.
Just one time - eating cinnamon-flavored applesauce - I felt my throat tightening up and felt like I needed the rescue inhaler *right now*. Not sure if you call that asthma or allergies. Inhaler helped that time, which was I'd reach for a rescue inhaler if I saw anybody with Anna-like symptoms.
FWIW, standard allergy tests and even a blood test were worthless. I find out what foods are a problem the hard way.
You may have heard that some people blame increased use of antibiotics for increases in asthma & allergies. I'm like the poster child for that -- a *brilliant* doctor misdiagnosed me and prescribed antibiotics for something I didn't have.
Yoyo
October 9, 2016 at 11:43 PM
"On another note, too bad they couldn’t get in another Subway PPL had K2 brought her a sandwich and she was allergic to tomatoes instead of the ice cream!"
Subway's PPL contract implicitly states: (assumingly)
Our sandwiches and the Subway brand should in no way be portrayed as a cause of any health related issues. Subject to this agreement, Subway and any of its brand affliates will conform to the usage of its products and store locations primarily for the network and the shows visual content. Violation of the said agreement will void and terminate the contract, subject to monetary fines or legal persuance.
Subway, the brand, will provide unlimited resources from its wide array of Deli selections that should be shown in at least half of the shows slated episodes. Subway, the brand, should always be used as a positive visual aid in the shows storyline together with its characters. Subway, the brand, should have exclusivity in regards with the food options used and shown on all agreed PPL episodes. Subway, the brand, will not be liable for any damages concerned while our products are consumed within a shows location.
Subway, the brand you can trust.
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klurker
October 10, 2016 at 12:08 AM
Addendum:
Subway must be portrayed in a positive light at all times. For instance, as a yummy device for the main leads to fall in love, or as a strategic location for star-crossed lovers to meet. The sandwiches must NEVER be used, under any circumstances, as a break-up sandwich, a leftover post-break-up sandwich, and the like.
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Adam
October 10, 2016 at 6:50 AM
This time that contract was breached. The Subway infection finally stroke. J4 ate the sandwich, got the stomach issues (from the aforementioned sandwich) and made Anna's escape possible. Clearly a breach of contract. But man, Subway pus exploded!
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Sancheezy
October 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM
to be fair, yoona already has the giant Subway PPL in Prime Minister and I,
wait . . . Yoona destined to have some link with politic
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Alessar
October 10, 2016 at 11:07 AM
Just waiting for a Subway-ad-covered Truck of Doom....
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kaybee
October 10, 2016 at 1:31 AM
I think maybe she didn't have an epi-pen with her because it's fairly easy to avoid strawberry so she didn't think of it and an epi-pen is rather big, so the suit pocket would probably be too small to comfortably hold it.
That said, the medical inaccuracies in this episode made me roll my eyes so many times!
1) Ain't no CPR gonna do any good if you have a severe allergic reaction. It seems most likely that her throat was swelling up on the inside and if anything mouth to mouth would make it worse because he's also just had strawberry lol. (Reminded me of the Drinking Solo ep where Ha Na fainted and supposedly it was an anaphylactic shock, yet nothing much happened and she didn't even have to get a shot. Like whaaaattt????)
2) If Je Ha really had PTSD he most likely wouldn't be able to sit there and so eloquently and calmly talk to her about the trauma that led him to have that diagnosis. That's just too unbelievable.
3) Agree with the recap - where did Anna's social anxiety go? It's like it suddenly vanished. In reality she probably would've been discovered the second that security guy talked to her when she left the house, because "omg someone's talking to me, what to do, what to do" -> stuttering, flustered reply. And then she had to take a taxi, talk to the woman in the nursing home, the old woman etc etc. Yet at no point did she seem uncomfortable or insecure? How is that possible?
Conclusion? Stop giving characters diagnosis if you can't even be bothered to do a few minutes' worth of googling to get your facts straight!
(Goes for the entirety of dramaland, not just this show, although this was just a crazy amount of different inaccuracies in one episode!)
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Nissa
October 10, 2016 at 4:36 AM
100% agree about the three points, even the conclusion :))
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Nissa
October 10, 2016 at 4:40 AM
And we understand that having social phobia, doesn't mean that one person can't interact at all with surrounding when they have to. Especially with Anna's case, she has a purpose, that's why she need to beat her phobia, it just that there's no indication that she's having trouble coping it, it really is just seems vanished. Voila.. They can't do that..
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kaybee
October 10, 2016 at 10:15 AM
Agreed, I'd be fine with her actually being able to do those things as long as they showed her having some difficulties doing them.
Of course, if, as many have suggested, it turns out that they were lying about her social anxiety, then I think that'd be a decent explanation. But so far, I'll say it's a medical inaccuracy. If not, then they need to hurry up and let the viewers know that she's not actually suffering from social anxiety.
wifey
October 10, 2016 at 5:16 AM
Maybe she doesn't actually have social anxiety and it's just an excuse made up by Yoo Jin to keep her locked up. In the first episode she had no problem running up to Je Ha and talking to him though the circumstances were a little different sense she was being chased and needed help.
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DoubleFault
October 10, 2016 at 9:10 AM
Thought about this too as Anna seemed very smart and capable in this episode. Maybe they were just drugging her all along?
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kaybee
October 10, 2016 at 10:11 AM
@Bogummy'sWife (LOL)
If they at some point tell us that they were lying all along, I'd be good with that, they just have to actually say it though :) I think it would be a really logical explanation to something that currently seems like a big fat mistake lol.
@DoubleFault
Ha, don't think they were drugging her, but wouldn't that be something? She seems lucid enough throughout everything, although kind of lunatic (when she suddenly becomes Princess Ramyun Twirl) and kind of clinically depressed. Seems to me the drugs are only for "emergencies" and "relocations" (lovely people, huh).
wendy darling
October 17, 2016 at 7:47 AM
what does ppl mean?
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2 Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 8:04 PM
[1/2]
So another episode. I loved it. For all those (few?) who were eagerly awaiting more development of Anna's character, today's episode is for you (I include myself in this group. You know me, crazed Yoona fan and all). For those who find Anna's character and scenes a low point, well... you may have to muddle through. ;)
Today's theme: heartbreaking realizations.
Okay, Let's hit the highlights.
First, the mysterious Cloud Nine. I have to be honest the whole Cloud Nine business is a little too stylized for my personal taste. I like a little more utility and a little less Hollywood style in my nefarious organizations. The A.I. scene in particular hit wrong for me. The idea of utilizing artificial intelligence in decision making and analysis is in of itself perfectly plausible. A.I. is in fact used in for that reason in reality. However, the execution in the show was a little too "futuristic movie tech" for me. That said, the scene was important in that it revealed to Yoo-jin Je-ha's troubled past and confirmed what she already suspected, that Je-ha intends to use Yoo-jin and her JSS organization in the pursuit of his revenge. It also set the stage for a possible friendship (sexual relationship?) of some sort between Yoo-jin and Je-ha. As he exits the sound-proof meeting room he tells Yoo-jin that how she's framed their relationship sounds an awful lot like a master-slave relationship and that masters always betray their slaves. He declines her characterization, suggesting instead that friends exist who don't betray one another, asking her "Isn't that right? Friend?" I eagerly await more of this tense dance between Je-ha and Yoo-jin
Second, Anna's escape from the captive house, and her subsequent excursion through the city to find her father. Some have previously suggested that Anna was some kind of invalid and perhaps lacking in intellect. I've disagreed with this assessment, and today's events prove that conclusion incorrect, I think. Anna may exhibit some peculiarities and lack of immediate understanding of seemingly simple tasks, but this is as a result of her isolation and captivity. Her efforts to escape and evade capture show real intelligence. I think we can safely put the "stupid" Anna trope to bed.
(Cont'd Below)
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 8:04 PM
[2/2]
Third, the church performance. This scene was beautifully done. It functioned as a pivotal scene for Anna's development in regards to her realization that her father was denying her out of his own volition. The look in Anna eyes at her being denied by her father as he won't make eye contact is heartbreaking. To Anna, his leaning and whispering into Yoo-jin's ear was a clear betrayal and denial of her in favor of Yoo-jin. Aware of Yoona's virginal attractiveness, the DP shoots Yoona's distressed doe-eyed face, framed by the white habit, like she's the virgin mother herself. Yoona's feminine vulnerability and pure, delicate, child-like beauty is reverently highlighted as she tearfully gives a heartbreaking rendition of Amazing Grace. I can't suppress my inner fanboy. God I loved this scene. So. Much. Pretty.
Finally, the ice cream scene. This scene furthers our awareness of Je-ha's affection or at least consideration of Anna as more than his obligation. More than being concerned with just securing her physically, he shows concern for her emotional well-being as exhibited by his requesting he be allowed to approach her himself, alone, rather than have her jarringly captured by a whole group of guards. The giving of ice cream to Anna was extremely important due to how Anna views the offering. Asking Je-ha if her father sent the treat, she pauses when Je-ha lies that it was. She seems to accept something unknown to us, and then resigns, "If it's from Father I should eat it, right?" Unknown to us until we learn at the end of her strawberry allergy, she eats the ice cream knowing it will most likely kill her, thinking it's what her father wants. Heartbreaking.
Well that's all for today. I'm loving the development of Anna's character and look forward to more of her as well as more Yoo-jin (always a treat). Je-ha too... You know, main character and all. ;)
See you next week!
(P.S. A Fanboy Minute. Doe-eyed Yoona + Virginal Habit + Tearfully Sung Amazing Grace = Wounded Fawn Perfection. This scene just strengthened my conviction that Yoona is the most beautiful woman in the world. Okay, end breathless confession.)
FIN
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shenelini
October 9, 2016 at 10:55 PM
The choice of Amazing Grace was pretty spot on, especially when it came to the lyrics: “I once was lost, but now am found, was blind, but now I see.”
It’s a sad parallel to Anna's note to her father, asking him to come find her, because that’s all she wants: for her father to come to her. She has always been the one running after him and failing to catch him, but now that he knows where she is, she has given the power to him to prove himself to her. Anna has always blindly held on to the faith that her father still wanted her and this whole mess was Yoo Jin’s fault, but she’s beginning to see that perhaps her father won’t be as enthusiastic to see her when she asks Jeha if her father was mad that she appeared out of nowhere.
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siesta
October 10, 2016 at 1:58 AM
OT but man Amazing Grace has such a beautiful and haunting melody any rendition of it just sends shivers down my spine, even tho i'm not christian so it holds no religious overtones to me.. it's just such a universally beautiful song
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divyrus
October 10, 2016 at 2:06 PM
I just wanted to say I enjoy your comments every week!
We need more fanboys around Dramabeans !!!
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Eman Resu
October 10, 2016 at 3:23 PM
Thank you. I appreciate your kind words.
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Sojuboy
October 10, 2016 at 1:49 AM
Have you ever heard of NSA's Data Center?
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/07/18831205-nsas-massive-new-data-center-in-utah
I love how this writer's constantly poking fun at American politics right now; Snowden affair (NSA), Hillary Clinton...etc....
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3 jaesukisourgod
October 9, 2016 at 8:21 PM
this drama doesn't know subtlety. it's almost amazing.
I'll keep watching because ji chang wook is so good, but I lost the count of how many times I roll my eyes watching an episode lol
"superpowered ramyun" LOL I think this is the answer to everything.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 8:38 PM
"this drama doesn’t know subtlety"
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Neither action thrillers nor melodramas are particularly known for their subtlety.
Just saying.
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abc
October 9, 2016 at 9:58 PM
there's no such rules. good ones will be able to. but i suppose i shouldn't fight any further with the power of a fanboy.
just saying.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 10:05 PM
Snap!
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 10:10 PM
"good ones will be able to"
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Melodrama by definition is the opposite of subtle.
Action, while not incapable of being considered subtle, is largely explicit and overt.
Thrillers, ditto.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 10:23 PM
"but i suppose i shouldn’t fight any further with the power of a fanboy."
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Mind if I ask where the hostility comes from?
All I did was disagree with the commenter above.
I'm curious what I did to piss you off.
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Hanabi
October 10, 2016 at 4:39 AM
You are too biased @Emanresu. Why can't you accept criticism?
Eman Resu
October 10, 2016 at 7:27 AM
"You are too biased @Emanresu. Why can’t you accept criticism?"
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I am perfectly fine with individuals disagreeing with me. Thinking I'm totally nuts. Offering their reasons why I'm wrong.
I don't know why you would think otherwise?
Because faced with a refutation of my position I do not just submit and instead offer a rebuttal?
If you somehow equate defending one's position as not being able to accept criticism, then I don't know what to say to you.
Besides, I get it. I'm pro-Yoona. Many here don't like her as an actress that much. And yes I do not hide my bias for her. And I get it that some may think that makes my judgement suspect
And that's fine. I'm cool with that.
That said, I have no idea what that has do with this exchange here.
We're discussing the show's lack of subtlety. I disagreed with an individual above. Then @abc chimed in with not only a disagreement with my position, but an attack against me personally. I defended @abc's attack against my argument, then in a separate comment addressed his attack on me.
How is this anything other than reasonable behavior.
Do tell.
Eman Resu
October 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM
Let me make an observation.
I find it curious. I’ve browsed this site for several years, commenting from time to time. In that time, I’ve seen hundreds and hundreds of individuals (presumably female) gushing and praising and otherwise fangirling their favorite bias (male).
“OMG Ji Chang-wook’s chocolate abs!”
“Ji Chang-wook is the best actor. He’s so talented!”
“I’m just here for the skinship. Song Joong Ki is so fine.”
Etc., etc.
Commenters by and large seem to respond with indifference to these comments, or actively respond positively and in support. I can’t remember a time when I saw hostility directed towards them.
I find it curious that when I make similar pro stances for Yoona, some respond very negatively.
Is it because they think she’s unworthy of praise? And resent anyone giving what they see as undue adulation? Or is because I’m admittedly male and the target of my praise is female (and this is a largely female dominated site)? Or is it because I actively attempt to write in a breathless and poetic tone regarding her and this rubs people wrong?
I haven’t the answers.
Anyway, just an observation.
Ren
October 10, 2016 at 11:34 AM
@Emanresu I personally think you should just fanboy to your heart's content. I think waxing lyrical about virginal purity as a feminine ideal is probably going to get some side eye from any predominantly female community like Dramabeans. But if that's what floats your boat, then that's completely fine and you should be able to express it! What else is the kdrama fandom if not any ode to attractive actors and swoon worthy leads anyway?
Eman Resu
October 10, 2016 at 12:06 PM
"I think waxing lyrical about virginal purity as a feminine ideal is probably going to get some side eye from any predominantly female community like Dramabeans."
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Okay I see how that might ruffle a few feathers.
I honestly don't intend to offend anyone with my appraisals of Yoona.
And I certainly don't intend my comments to be taken as some condemnation of other expressions of femininity or female sexual promiscuity.
My descriptions of Yoona come from my view that she definitely fits a particular type of feminine ideal (not the only one mind you). She has a pure, innocent image that I find very attractive.
I apologize if some take my comments as some indirect attack on alternate views of femininity. I certainly don't intend them as such.
Ren
October 10, 2016 at 12:59 PM
Just to clarify, my statement wasn't intended as a criticism or a judgment. It was more along the lines we should welcome diverse opinions, there's no need for apologies.
YUMICUTE
October 10, 2016 at 10:29 PM
Us females fangirls to our hearts content so i dont understand why people judge you if you do the same lol
Btw,i love reading your comments.
Jack
October 11, 2016 at 4:46 AM
I am pro Yoo jin...totally biased. I want to see if this writer can pretzel her/his way to connect her with je ha romantically....looks like not so dropping the drama soon. Can't stand damsel in distress storyline
Ram
October 9, 2016 at 10:51 PM
Hostile much?
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crayon
October 10, 2016 at 8:49 AM
Oh dang, where did all of these trash commenters come from? DramaBeans, control your freaks better.
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mary
October 10, 2016 at 9:13 AM
Reminder to please stay civil even when you're disagreeing with someone else's opinion.
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susan
October 10, 2016 at 8:48 PM
Mary, come play. :-) I have things to tell you.
jaesukisourgod
October 10, 2016 at 8:34 AM
I think it's more with the script and how they're unfolding the story than with the genre itself? I feel like the comedy inside JJS is so over the top and in your face. they could do a better job with that, even if they wanna that group of characters to be a comic relief.
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Eman Resu
October 10, 2016 at 9:21 AM
Point taken.
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Sancheezy
October 9, 2016 at 9:13 PM
this is action melodrama ala East of Eden imo and it always messy, but I like the punch
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bluemings
October 10, 2016 at 3:26 PM
@Emanresu I enjoy your comments on this site, and I think you shouldn't be judged for being a 'fanboy', I mean, what's wrong with that?
I completely agree with what you said above how people comment on how handsome the male lead is, and I think that you should be able to do the same.
People need to be more civil and open-minded!
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 6:39 PM
There is nothing wrong be a fangirl or fanboy here, as long as everyone stay civil, and do not giving any nasty comments. I don't know why some made attacks on him.
I am not a fangirl of Ji Chang Wook , seeing how much his fangirls here i just scroll down without care to leave any reply. We all have our own biases, and this is dramasite, not some fansite. Although he has many fans here, I still give my critics on him whenever I feel like I need to.
Don't worry @Emanresu, although Yoona is not everyone's favorite here, you are free to fanboying here. And do know as well, I am girl but I am fangirling mostly on actress. All my biases are actresses except one or two actor :P (i am perfectly fine girl) LOL :P just saying. ;)
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4 Lessa
October 9, 2016 at 8:24 PM
I see so many flaws with this series but Im still hooked and really enjoying it, and those flaws are becoming meh to me, which is weird because I usually just drop a series I find really really flawed by the 5th ep.
I theorize it may be 1) Ji Chang Wook - by default or 2) Damned Ramyun CFs.
... Yep, it's definitely the superpowered ramyun. Imma go eat now.
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echo
October 9, 2016 at 8:48 PM
I agree there are flaws but I just take it in stride I say it's definitely ji chang wook and the kittens ?
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sharreb
October 10, 2016 at 2:58 AM
I know what you mean and how you feel. That's exactly what I felt for another drama and wrote roughly the same comment like yours. Strange we are addicted and that addiction is bigger than the flaws that we notice. We are still tuning in week after week.
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5 jomo143
October 9, 2016 at 8:29 PM
Thanks for the recap!!
I want to like YJ. I want to believe that she never really threatened to kill Anna. I want her to be in league with her husband's daughter not against her. I want them to bond and be friends. Then she goes and suggests they show the children of the sex-tape guy his video so they might commit suicide, and makes that horrible reaction face at the church to seeing Anna, and I don't like her at all.
JH is compassionate. How could he ever work for her if he saw that side? Not just an ambitious woman he can admire, she's without a heart.
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saranga
October 9, 2016 at 9:01 PM
isn't yoo-jin going after the people who betrayed her and tried to oust her from her own scholarship foundation? she tells je-ha later that she's never yet betrayed anyone who has been faithful to her. telling her minions to show the kids of one of her betrayers the sexually graphic video of their father is definitely harsh and makes even her minions balk, but she's got her own reasoning. she doesn't do anything just for kicks. this woman is all about an eye for an eye.
in that scene, she doesn't intend for the KIDS to commit suicide; she only wants their father to FEEL like dying when he learns that his kids have seen his explicit video. she wants him to feel exactly what she felt when she nearly had her foundation taken from her. she said she had wondered in that moment how she could die painlessly. she does wonder whether or not he would or wouldn't commit suicide after his kids see the video, but suicide is not something she's actively plotting in that scene.
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Dada
October 10, 2016 at 12:23 AM
I agree with you. I think YJ is a victim of circumstances and the circumstances has lead her to be this. I am not justifying her actions but I think she is not bad just for the sake of being bad. She has her reasons like not getting the JG group, her husband having a mistress, etc.
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jomo143
October 10, 2016 at 3:42 AM
That makes me feel slightly better!
I really thought she was talking about the KID's killing themselves!
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H4
October 10, 2016 at 6:31 AM
@saranga, Dada, jpmo
I am very sad when I read your guys' comments above. My hands raised up: so where should the justice be?
Agreed that YJ is victim of her circumstances but she also herself made the circumstances happened, don't you see? Her husband cheated her to have affair. But she made herself into a murderer by pushing Anna's into death. You said YJ only betrayed the ones betrayed her. But let see the method she used to pay revenge: show her enemy's kids the dirty film of their own father and wonder about what pain the kids would feel. Even her underlings who might did bad things as her request still were taken aback. So, I am sad you didn't feel despaired at this character at all.
If people who did committed crimes also cover their guilt by using the excuse "victim of circumstances", then where is the justice, where is the value of living honourably.
Actually, I feel scared when nowadays many and more people show their empathy toward the guilty in the way that they unintentionally damage the society. I don't mean that not every person who committed crimes is not worth our empathy for them. But, oh where is the "but"?
I don't want to offend you guys, just wanted to voice my concern.
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hibeautiful
October 10, 2016 at 7:11 AM
I didn't think that far like you did, but now I have the same sentiment with you. Esp with this "I feel scared when nowadays many and more people show their empathy toward the guilty in the way that they unintentionally damage the society" I feel scared too!
Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 7:42 AM
Just because some ppl find the reasoning of her actions, does not mean these ppl show more empathy towards the guilty ones. I feel like you wrongly interpreted what ppl's saying and conclude with your own opinion. OF COURSE we always and must sympathize with the victim, but we cannot punish the wrongdoer without knowing the reasons. This is why there is a law. Before law is used to punish ppl, the reasons / causes must always being known first.
For example, I want to understand the criminal's action for commited the murder. Finding the reasons do not mean we agree with the crime, and let him away with it. In fact the wrong doer shall be punished accordingly but it does not mean we cannot sympathize with him.
I feel like you probably weighing on victim's side too much which I don't blame at all, because it is normal situation, but I feel it is little too much that you are sad because of the comments above. Trying to find the rationale behind every actions whether good or bad is never wrong. No one will be able to seek the justice without weighing all reasons behind the action.
Dada
October 10, 2016 at 8:47 AM
Hi H4, thanks for your comment. I'm not offended. Although just to clarify, I'm not justifying YJ's actions. My comments are entirely on her character development, because at least there is a background to why she turned bad unlike villains in other dramas where they are just bad without any depth at all.
JaneFr
October 10, 2016 at 9:43 AM
Until this episode I thought that maybe YJ had not killed Anna's mother. That the father had done it (he had more to lose.)
Then I was, "Oh she did it". And then again, I thought, ok the father did not kill his mistress, but does it means that YJ did it ? She could have taken advantage of the situation and threatened Anna without actually being the murderer.
Ok, I maybe reaching here, but I want to be able to like her. I like that YJ is unapologetically bad, when everyone around her is worse but hiding it. And I'm sad for the little girl, the loving wife she was once.
saranga
October 10, 2016 at 6:24 PM
@h4:
no worries, not offended at all. i totally understand where you're coming from, and i think it's an important point you bring up. it's something that crosses my mind every time i "defend" yoo-jin, because i do feel incredible sympathy for her and yet at the same time i am hyper aware that this is a woman who is capable of ordering killings without batting an eye.
i think because this is television, and because we are privy to yoo-jin's innermost thoughts and emotions, it's much easier to "justify" her actions, for lack of a better term, whereas in real life it'd be more black and white. here, in the drama, we see what drives yoo-jin, her motivations—that she doesn't kill or attack for pure kicks, malice, or greed. she's driven by some very human emotions and hurt that have warped themselves into some very twisted actions. i think the drama tries to show us that, the psychology behind her actions.
i don't condone her killings of innocent people. that is evil. she would have done away with that elderly couple who had harbored je-ha, and who knows how many more such prior instances there had been? showing her betrayer's children their father's sex video, on the other hand, is cruel and lesser than evil. a terrible thing to do, but not necessarily evil.
as for anna's mother, i can't help but wonder if there won't be a twist of some sort later on. it hasn't really been confirmed that yoo-jin ordered her to be killed. anna's dad did seethe at his wife, calling her a murderer, but it's possible that yoo-jin had a different plan and that plan had simply gone awry. if that were the case, i think yoo-jin is the type who would probably rather die than to explain herself to her husband, who it appears automatically believed his wife had something to do with anna's mother's death. yoo-jin is too proud to try and essentially beg for her husband's understanding.
El
October 10, 2016 at 10:52 PM
"How could he ever work for her if he saw that side?"
He HAS seen that side. In their first meeting, she explicitly ordered the murder of the elderly couple he was protecting, and she also ordered his murder, both as a move to protect her husband's reputation, i.e., her own ambitions. In their second meeting he saw the desperate and scared girl he met in Spain, in her house, hysterically screaming at him that he kill her, and he no doubt put two and two together that she was in a bad situation because of YJ. He knew ALL of this. And yet he STILL chose to ally himself to YJ for his own revenge-fueled reasons. How is that many are so quick to label YJ "evil" (as if it's so black/white, please) but JH is compassionate and "good" b/c he feeds kittens and helps old people? Yet, when he allies himself with someone like YJ, despite all the evil~ things she's done/capable of, no one holds that against him, and instead claim that he has the moral high ground. So you really think he'd suddenly break off their deal if he learned about something like the sex tape? Nope. He already knows EXACTLY what she's capable of. And he STILL sides with her b/c she can help him get what he wants: revenge against their common enemy. By extension, he sides with her in keeping Anna hidden against her will. He sides with her against her hyena-like business family. He sides with her against her husband. And it doesn't even start or end there, because even before Park and their mutually beneficent agreement, there was pity. I'm referring to their first meeting, when he saved her from a burning car, risking his own life to do so. I repeat, he does this knowing just how "evil" she is. But he had also just witnessed first hand how hated by others this woman was, how much others wanted her dead. He saw her ambition her cruelty her fear her rage and her tears, all in the span of one night, and I think he understood that there was something pitiful and very human about her, something relate-able. Fast forward to his employment as her bodyguard, to the reading-of-the-will incident. His duty as her bodyguard was met when he successfully got into the room. All he HAD to do was escort her back outside. That's what any other JSS agent would have done. But he went beyond that and did several things that were completely unnecessary and served to cement the existence of a very strong connection between them. He saw her there, drenched and shaken and vulnerable; what did he do next? He sheltered her. He consoled her (the handkerchief, the small but genuine smile). He guided her and counseled her (hand on her back, "straighten your back, your enemies are watching"), showing his implicit understanding of her and surprising YJ with his foresight and insight (and skinship). One just can't claim at this point that, in this ostensible deal-with-the-devil relationship of theirs, he does not or cannot come to care about her or connect with her (he already does!) b/c he is...
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El
October 10, 2016 at 11:00 PM
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...b/c he is "good" and she is "bad." There's already a very real sense of /loyalty/ developing between them, and /friendship/. Again, I stress, this is a connection that was created and is growing with Jeha's full knowledge and awareness of the kind of person YJ is -- all the black, all the grey, and all the gold.
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Chris
October 11, 2016 at 4:32 AM
Such a superb description of yoo jin and je ha's relationship. Everything I've ever felt when watching their interactions so clearly outlined. I do enjoy their time onscreen together.
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6 solace
October 9, 2016 at 8:34 PM
"But it’s strange to watch Anna act as if her social phobia was a thing of the past now that she’s thrust into the real world."
We didn't actually see her social phobia though, I can't remeber instances from the drama (correct me if I'm wrong). And I think it was just assumed by the people around her since she wasn't actually going out. Not going out =/= social phobia. Maybe if J4 and the ajmumma of the house approched her like a normal person, I think she's gonna be fine.
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Sancheezy
October 9, 2016 at 9:09 PM
Anna hardly trust people since all she has in spain in yoo jin's people and she is abroad.
When she is in Korea, she can trust people cause she understand that she meets the real people and not just yoo jin's people.
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imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 9:10 PM
I think that too, maybe anna's social phobia is a lie. To trick people away from her who may even become curious (among the people who are appointed to protect her) about her and try to help her. If it is not a lie, then I am just going to believe it is. :p
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jziecw
October 9, 2016 at 9:16 PM
Agree with you. We only "knew" that she has social phobia through the character's description and through J4's words, just as how we "knew" that Yoo-jin is an evil villainous person.
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jora16
October 9, 2016 at 9:25 PM
I thought this too!
There's also the possibility that, while she does have social problems, they aren't as severe as we've been told. Clearly she was psychologically affected by everything she has gone through, but she's capable of doing a little investigative work, so she's not helpless. Could she be playing it up in order to get to the bottom of what happened?
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Lord Cobol
October 9, 2016 at 10:59 PM
Maybe when they were explaining about her to K2 they wanted to spin it to downplay their harsh treatment of her.
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Dada
October 10, 2016 at 12:26 AM
100% agree with you. Her social phobia is a lie. When J4 and ajumma are narrating to Je Ha the things about Anna, the show constantly shows different things J4 and ajumma are doing like when J4 said she is available to answer any call 24/7 and it showed in reality that she just sleeps through it, I think the rest of what they said are also untrue.
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kaybee
October 10, 2016 at 1:38 AM
Now that explanation I would buy! Then it'd at least be one less medical inaccuracy in this episode lol.
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neslinin
October 10, 2016 at 6:52 AM
I agree. I don't think she had a social phobia at all. She is being locked all her life. That is just an excuse for the people around.
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bluemings
October 10, 2016 at 3:16 PM
Oh wow that's clever!
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zlyfairy
October 11, 2016 at 8:22 AM
I agree. I always thought her social phobia was made up. She obviously would like to interact with other people. She spies on them and listens to them. However, none of them try to approach her as a normal person. More than social phobia I think she is needy for attention and interactions.
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stedens
October 23, 2016 at 3:23 AM
honestly, the people around her are the last ones who would know how she really is. they are the ones she wants to be away from, fears, etc. how she acts around them is different from how she may react around a mom watching her kids at the park, or a person manning a checkout counter, or someone walking down the street.
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7 Red_me
October 9, 2016 at 8:42 PM
"Gone is the girl holed up in her room and avoiding strangers, because now she’s been replaced by a girl able to both initiate conversations with strangers and is surprisingly okay with personal space."
I don't see in last five episode, where she had any of those fears of world i.e Social Phobia. It is other People, guards and those who want her hidden, who tell us that she has a lot of social problems.
She never said she has and the only scene (in 1st episode) she was away from guards, she was running from her captors. She even properly talked to Je-Ha (a complete stranger) for the first time she had met and asked for help.
Also, Where did she learn? TV probably and she remembers almost everything from her childhood then she must have been a normal child before her mother was killed?
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Sanrock
October 9, 2016 at 8:51 PM
Exactly my thoughts.. so far the only ppl Anna has been with are all Yoo jin's lackey.. how is she supposed to interact with them..she could've been avoiding them on purpose and everyone just assumed that she's socio phobic..and also to suggest that Anna should be angry at Jeha for abandoning her is strange... she knows that she was a total stranger to him at that time to.. and he atleast tried to help her..and he did so twice.. he only left when it was impossible to help her...
Anyway i am very Happy with Anna's development and hoping to see more from her character..
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jziecw
October 9, 2016 at 11:42 PM
Yep, now that you pointed that out, in ep 1, Anna even tried to persuade Jeha to help her to meet her father in Madrid and promised that Jeha would be compensated well. So she clearly can interact with other people when she wants to.
However her escape in Spain and in Korea is totally different. Is it because in Spain she was locked up far from the city, and she did not have access to anything or anyone? Maybe she is inept in a foreign country, but not in Korea? (Although she lived in Spain for 14 years, she never really got the chance to integrate herself into the society).
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Diane
October 15, 2016 at 7:40 PM
AGREE.
And also this: " It seems that night in Spain when he left her to her captors is a long lost memory in Anna’s mind because there isn’t an ounce of resentment in her voice when she’s speaking to him. Bringing it up now makes it seem like I’m the one holding a personal grudge in her stead, but surely that moment of abandonment in her greatest time of need would bring with it some relational consequences?"
Anna doesn't even feel an ounce of resentment for her father who has been ignoring her all these years, how much more for Jeha? That is just Anna's character so I didnt see anything wrong with that.
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8 bkchild
October 9, 2016 at 8:43 PM
This episode solidified to me what I already knew, the creepy undertones will continue with Anna's character wrt the romance but hopefully to a lesser extent. Hopefully they'll die out almost completely. She's finally been used as her own character and not the romantic object for Je-ha to focus on or a block in the road for Yee-jin for the first time I feel like.
She was the weepy eyed "delicate" wounded fawn, as our resident guy described up above, who Je-ha gets to spy on and feel obligated to protect, and that morphs into love and it's all unbalanced and weird. And it made me very very uncomfortable with her place in the story.
BUT in this episode it's not just that she's functioning as an adult who's been sheltered all her life and is missing some key development skills, as opposed to a literal 11 year old in an adult woman's body, but she's functioning as her own character. SUCCESSFULLY functioning, no failed escape attempts, to telling people to shoot and then disappearing upstairs. And I'm very happy with the development, incoherent as it may feel for some. I feel like it was more a fault with the episodes prior focusing so heavily on making sure the audience *cough the men* know she is innocent and pure and virginal enough that she can save Je-ha emotionally and be a suitable partner to him.
But this episode was mostly just for her, and it was a marked difference and I want it to continue. More of this episode please. I'm looking forward to seeing how she grapples with her father not caring about her at all and being honestly a horrible father. I want her to go on her own revenge binge, she's certainly got the potential to be capable. I want her to be allowed to be angry about the betrayal and not have to be forgiving because she's the "Snow White" of the tale. I want this drama to give a genuine twist on the tale, because honestly the Snow White tale is played out and tired. That's what we were getting in these first episodes with respect to her and for the first time they showed signs of being able to break the mold.
Less of her eating strawberries because she thinks her dad wants her dead, and more proactive work from her is basically what I want. And no I don't want her to be an action girl,punching and kicking and fighting. That's not her thing and that doesn't make a well rounded female character alone. But I want her to be making active decisions and REAL decisions and be a real player in the story like the synopsis said. HER not Je-ha acting for her and assuming he knows what she wants to hear.
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bkchild
October 9, 2016 at 8:50 PM
Also I obviously love Yoo-jin and I think she's the strongest and most interesting character in this drama by far. I look forward to more with her, and I look forward to more of her interactions with Je-ha. The scene's are loaded, precisely because he's nearly impossible to control and Yoo-jin is all about control. Them in the room just talking was my favorite part of the episode for that reason. Friends, will they really be friends moving forward? What will that mean for them both? I'm excited thinking about it. How they'll push each other more and how they'll change (hopefully) from these interactions is something I'm looking forward to seeing.
And I want to know how Anna will factor into this interaction, how she and Yoo-jin will push one another (and hopefully how she'll push Je-ha if the show allows it).
If the show just goes full Snow White I might have to tune out. Harpy evil older woman who's mad that the younger woman gets what she wants is not what I'm here for and is, as I've said, tired and played out. Especially with the nuance we've gotten for her so far. Out of everything I have the most hopes for her character being a stand out when this show is over and I hope they keep it up. And i hope they write stuff that's fitting of Song Yoon Ah's talents, as they have been so far.
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Ren
October 9, 2016 at 10:26 PM
That's interesting this episode had the opposite effect on me, it actually cemented to me that Anna is a child, albeit as other people have mentioned, a smart one. The glare to Mi-ran like she a kid who was sabotaging her babysitter, waiting on the bench like she was instructed to do if she ever got lost, not asking "Hey, are you sure this is from my Dad? I'm allergic to strawberries," all this indicated to me that she's sadly emotionally and maybe mentally stunted. There was even a flashback of kid Anna telling her Dad that she knows how to catch cabs as if we needed any further confirmation that what she was doing now was within the capacity of her 8 year old self.
Some people view Anna's unwavering faith in her Dad as a sign of strength and will, for me it's more or an indication of an extremely simplistic and naive worldview where everything is black and white, no one goes back on their word and dad is beyond reprehension. To put it bluntly, she conceptually still sees the world like an 8 year old.
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pollyanna
October 10, 2016 at 3:59 AM
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9 Liyah
October 9, 2016 at 8:44 PM
Hello! Thank you for the recap!
There are a lot of things to love about this episode, which made it easy for me to forgive the flaws that I'm sure will be pointed out by many. ☺
I'm glad that we are finally moving forward and the thicker plot lines are slowly being revealed. I'm optimistic that the "inconsistencies" both in the narrative and characterization will be addressed in future episodes. *crossing fingers*
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Liyah
October 9, 2016 at 8:54 PM
Also, I just want to add, there are still many things we don't know. I want to believe that they are trying to drop hints here and there, which seem disconnected to us right now.
I was not a fan of the ramen dances before today. But with this episode, I understand it now. Those specific dance moves were taught to Anna by her mother while they were cooking together.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 9:08 PM
"Those specific dance moves were taught to Anna by her mother while they were cooking together."
I don't know how but I totally missed this connection between her mother and her ramen dancing.
Thank you for pointing that out!
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bigmomma12345
October 9, 2016 at 9:35 PM
Thank you! I actually said "Ahhhh that's why she danced like that" out loud to my tv.
Also, I can't remember - have we actually had Yoo-Jin tied to Anna's mom's death? Because, given Yoo-Jin's initial response when Anna's dad called Yoo-Jin a murderer, it made me think she really wasn't involved and possibly Yoo-Jin's cautioning about Anna's potential death in the flashback was just an observation of a possibility, not a threat.
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 9, 2016 at 9:43 PM
She probably didn't involve directly in causing Anna's mother death. Or maybe did not involve at all. Based on what I see in Yoo Jin so far, she probably made any deal and as a result Anna voluntarily caused her death on her own.
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divyrus
October 10, 2016 at 2:17 PM
I missed it too! Now I understand.
You know this drama is not as bad as people making it out to be. I thought JCW and kitty scene was just a filler but then they bring it back with Yoona doing the same. And now with the ramyun dance and now they show its what she did with her mother! Scenes seem to have a purpose but the editing style gives a sub standard end product I feel !
If they could cut all 6 episodes into 40-45 mts max, we would have a amazing drama in our hands !
Is there anywhere else where concerns about editing is raised? And with scenes being extra long? I wish the notice it and fix it in future episodes.
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bluemings
October 10, 2016 at 3:18 PM
Yes, I feel like the transitions aren't smooth? I don't think I've realised this before in dramas, but I find that there's really abrupt cuts. Anyone feel the same way?
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10 jora16
October 9, 2016 at 8:46 PM
I think the most revealing part of this episode, for me, was when it was suggested that Jeha holds himself responsible (at least partly) for Raniya's death. He can do the whole 'revenge on the congressman' thing, but he needs to come to terms with himself first - his abilities and his past actions.
And I think that was highlighted in that ending scene, where he is freaking out over Anna and her allergic reaction. It's a parallel to what happened with Raniya - another innocent hurt on his watch, in part because of him. I'm curious to see how this will play out in the next episode. Will he brood over it and go further down the path of darkness? Or will we get more choir music and Anna in a white dress leading him toward redemption?
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Liyah
October 9, 2016 at 9:03 PM
Hi, Jora!
Another situation that could play out is for Je Ha to become more protective of Anna. I think that would make more sense rather than him being infatuated
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jora16
October 9, 2016 at 9:15 PM
Yup. I don't think he has feelings for her yet, it's his compassion kicking in. It doesn't hurt that he always seems to encounter her when she needs help.
Which brings us back to that last scene. I think his reaction is not feelings of like/love as much as it is protectiveness and deja vu.
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Sancheezy
October 9, 2016 at 9:05 PM
it kinda like cruel fate that Jeha little kindness is what will kill Anna, had he just brings her without any ice cream or approached her, she'll not gonna be in critical condition
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 9:24 PM
Don't worry.
I'm sure she'll pull through. We've still got 10 more episodes to get to.
Can't have one of our leads dying on us now can we?
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bluemings
October 10, 2016 at 3:19 PM
+100
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11 imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 8:52 PM
After watching this episode, I can't help but feel sympathetic to anna's plight. Its obvious she is longing for some love and a sense of belonging. Maybe, If she had been allowed to have a normal childhood even after her traumatic experience, she might have got and accepted that from another person. But, since she was sent to a foreign country fully believing that she was the reason for her mother's death, where she had no way of coping with it because she was completely isolated, the language barrier and also because the people appointed to protect her only saw her as a job.
So, I understand why she desperately wants to be with her father and why she stubbornly believes that yoo jin is the one holding him back from her (not even slightly doubting her father). Because, the only time she ever felt happy and safe should have been when she was with her parents. Now she no longer has a mother, so she has deluded herself into thinking (for which no one can blame her) that to be happy and safe again, she needs to be with her father. And to do that, in her view, she needs to get rid of yoo jin. When the truth her father is refusing to meet her halfway which makes her plight even more sad and futile.
So, I have a feeling that she will play a vital role in bringing the downfall of yoo jin (if that ever happens). Also, I think je ha will have a conflict of choosing sides between them. Or these are the things that I hope the drama showcases as it seems to follow snow white.
Also, did yoona herself sing that song or was it dubbed over? It was good.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 9:12 PM
"did yoona herself sing that song or was it dubbed over? It was good."
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I don't know. But that was my favorite scene in the episode. Yoona's vulnerable beauty really helped sell the scene (and song).
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solace
October 9, 2016 at 10:51 PM
She sang that song. It was her voice. :)
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imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 11:49 PM
Thanks sweetstar. :)
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DoubleFault
October 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM
It does appear to be Yoona's voice. I compared it to her singing voice from the song, Deoksugung Wall, and it's very similar.
I know that this could appear shallow or tacky to some but it would be great to get a duet between her and JCW for the OST, since JCW can also sing.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 9:34 PM
After going back and listening to it again, I'm fairly certain Yoona sang the song herself. It sounds to me like her voice.
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imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 9:45 PM
Oh. Thank you for clarifying.
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Lord Cobol
October 9, 2016 at 11:08 PM
It would have been -- gee, just a little bit -- lame if they had to dub over a kpop starlet.
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imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 11:48 PM
Ya, I guess. The song was in english and the pronounciation was good. I am not familiar with yoona as an actress as well as an idol. So, I had to ask.
Tinka
October 10, 2016 at 4:57 AM
@Emanresu, Let me make make a little bit fun of you, like between fanboys and beans-chingu ;) :))
At the level you're fanboying Yoona, it would be no wonder anything would sound to you like her voice =)))
Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on this, it should be her voice, it would look weird another way around, since she's an established singer, though it's sound amusing coming from you, since I've read lots of your comments where your shouting to the world your love for her.
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Tinka
October 10, 2016 at 5:10 AM
Uh, didn't see my editing wasn't complete.
Sorry about punctuation, grammar. My bad.
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Eman Resu
October 10, 2016 at 8:42 AM
"At the level you’re fanboying Yoona, it would be no wonder anything would sound to you like her voice"
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Haha. Yea, maybe you're right. But I swear it sounds like her! ;)
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Let me make an observation though. And this isn't directed at you, more just prompted by your comment.
I find it curious. I've browsed this site for several years, commenting from time to time. In that time, I've seen hundreds and hundreds of individuals (presumably female) gushing and praising and otherwise fangirling their favorite bias (male).
"OMG Ji Chang-wook's chocolate abs!"
"Ji Chang-wook is the best actor. He's so talented!"
"I'm just here for the skinship. Song Joong Ki is so fine."
Etc., etc.
Commenters by and large seem to respond with indifference to these comments, or actively respond positively and in support. I can't remember a time when I saw hostility directed towards them.
I find it curious that when I make similar pro stances for Yoona, some respond very negatively (again not you).
Is it because they think she's unworthy of praise? And resent anyone giving what they see as undue adulation? Or is because I'm admittedly male and the target of my praise is female (and this is a largely female dominated site)? Or is it because I actively attempt to write in a breathless and poetic tone regarding her and this rubs people wrong?
I haven't the answers.
Anyway, just an observation.
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Amy
October 10, 2016 at 9:57 AM
I'm really happy to see male commentators on the board, fan boys or not. Its like getting into somebody else's head...like does boys also watch dramas...oh they are more into action dramas...and the like
Eman Resu
October 10, 2016 at 10:56 AM
@amy
I'm glad you feel that way.
This boy watches the whole gamut. Everything from Moonlight Drawn by Clouds (sageuk romance), to That Winter the Wind Blows (romantic melodrama, personal favorite), to Signal (procedural/suspense), to Coffee Prince (gender-bender rom-com) and Delightful Girl Choon Hyang (rom-com/melo), to name only a few.
I too really enjoy seeing the perspectives shown by the opposite gender. Sometimes I don't quite agree. But sometimes it shows a given scenario to me in a whole new light, one that I otherwise wouldn't have considered.
I appreciate being exposed to alternate views than my own. The discussions, camaraderie, (and disagreements) are what make commenting here so fun.
nchoe
October 10, 2016 at 1:38 AM
I'm 100% sure that's Yoona's voice.
I like the girl from Monstar version better though.
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12 nchoe
October 9, 2016 at 8:55 PM
Can we end this story in Maleficent style where The Evil Yoo Jin is misunderstood and not as bad as we think... that she actually tries to protect Anna all this time... that she sees Anna as a daughter she never had... in the end Anna and Yoo Jin is gonna team up to kick evil daddy's butt... and Prince Charming a.k.a. K2 is not needed after all since the girls can save themselves. LOL.
No. I'm serious.
I just can't buy any potential romance in this show.
I never had any trouble with noona romance, but the fact that Yoo Jin is married really disturbs me and I don't think Yoo Jin has any plan to divorce her husband. So I don't think I can root for Jae Ha and Yoo Jin to happen.
And I really want to save Anna from Jae Ha when he's watching her from cctv. Dude, there's a reason why she covers that camera. It means she needs some privacy and you should respect that. Duh!
I know Jae Ha is hot, but I think he's kinda a bit annoying as a lover or a man in love. I really want to give him a good hit on his head when he's calling Raniya in one of flashback scene "Raniya... Raniya... Saranghae... Saranghae". I mean... dude... Can't you see she's seriously working with clients there? Stop disturbing her! Rrrrggh...
Sorry but this writer is suck at building romance and I end up wanting no romance at all.
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jziecw
October 9, 2016 at 9:12 PM
Yep! I am also thinking about this possibility, and it will be fantastic if the show could really end like that!
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 9, 2016 at 9:24 PM
You are so true that this writer is suck at building romance ( Yong Pal is the best example). I don't know if it is because this writer is a guy or maybe he never be in love that he cannot write a good romance plot.
This writer should seriously consider to write female centric drama next time. Yong Pal & K2 supposedly male centric but Yong Pal ended up a mess. I can see K2 will face the same thing. Although I do appreciate the 'villain' female lead because I am so done to see nice female lead.
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nchoe
October 9, 2016 at 10:05 PM
I've seen villain female lead being so perfectly done before by Mishil... My Queen... from Queen Seon Deok... oh... no one can top her.
And now I'm craving for a badass female lead who's on the good side. Beside, she said she envies her Aunty for having a niece while she doesn't have anyone to accompany her when she's old. So let's give
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nchoe
October 9, 2016 at 10:06 PM
... her Anna
*accidentally pushed submit button
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 9, 2016 at 11:05 PM
Mishil is basically the Queen of Villain - she was effortlessly villain. I can see Mishil in Yoo Jin, of course with different aura.
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Lord Cobol
October 9, 2016 at 11:12 PM
Mishil was one of the best baddies ever. And having seen Ko Hyun-Jung in that role added suspense to her character in Queen's Classroom.
Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 12:21 AM
@Lord Cobol nowadays we have seen so many villains that we cannot or don't want to root for, and villain second female lead is always the bitchy and annoying ones. It made me appreciate more to have Yoo Jin as interesting villain. Actually we can have an interesting villain in many dramas, but with very limited screentime and development, they cannot offer more.
bigmomma12345
October 9, 2016 at 9:42 PM
Your comment about Yoo-Jin protecting Anna - I totally am speculating that. I replied with a similar thought in an earlier post but will repeat myself here. To me, Yoo-Jin seemed upset when hubby called her a murderer - something about her response made me think she was disappointed and hurt (but not surprised) that he actually thought she did it. And in the flashback scene, I felt like she was warning him that Anna could get hurt/killed, not threatening to do it.
I may be way off base though...
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anna96
October 9, 2016 at 10:19 PM
I so agree with you ! K2 can be just a bodyguard who helped the 2 (Yoo Jin and Anna).
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Curious
October 9, 2016 at 11:37 PM
I love everything about this comment. I support this 100%.
Gasssh the writer REALLY wanted us to know Je-Ha was in love with Raniya in that scene. We get it, man.
I have to agree with some of the other beanies that are suggesting that there was more to the scene where Yoo-Jin's husband called her a murderer. I dont think she was directly involved in Anna's mother's death.
She is ruthless and resentful but i dont think she is a killer. Sure she offered Je-Ha to be his trigger or bullet but i think she is also very vulnerable. We see her get hurt everytime her husband doesnt stand up for her and she tells him to take another car or when she cried after being betrayed at the meeting. Also, this is the one reason that would explain the loyalty and respect she has from her closest staff.
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Dada
October 10, 2016 at 12:36 AM
Wow. That would be an interesting thing. I have kind of cemented in my mind that YJ killed Anna's mom. My really big question is - who did Assembly Jang meet first? Is it Anna's mom or YJ? Coz now we know that YJ is the legal wife right? But Anna is 8 years old when her mom died and I don't know when did YJ and Assembly Jang got wed. Plus I don't believe YJ would not have known about the mistress for 8 years?
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Curious
October 10, 2016 at 3:23 AM
That is a very good question. Gah but I am on the fence now. The more I think about Yoo-Jin's potential motivations to kill Anna's mother and then imprison Anna, the more I lean towards "weeeellll, maybe she did kill her". I am so confused now and I guess that is what makes her character so interesting. We haven't got her figured out yet so the intrigue is there. I mean she is resentful. We know that. For example, her instructing her staff to release the sex tape of the man who betrayed her to his children. Cold, cold, cold. But then she starts crying and looking up at Je-Ha like he is saving her from drowning....I don't know lol but you raise a good question.
Did Anna's mother come into her father's life first but had to be hidden because she wouldn't have been of help in their grand scheme of things and Yoo-Jin was brought in as step-up to help him? Or was she a mistress that came into his life after his marriage which turned Yoo-Jin into who she is today?
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Dada
October 10, 2016 at 8:44 AM
Hi Curious, thanks for your comments above. YJ is certainly interesting. Looking forward to the future episodes and hopefully our question gets answered soon!
JaneFr
October 10, 2016 at 9:55 AM
I wondered about the When YJ had learned about Anna's mother since she mentioned that that morning was the last she made breakfast for him.
Making his breakfast for him herself was a loving/caring thing. She must have love him.
What change for her ? Why would she stop just then ? Because the mistress was dead ? Because she had just learned of his having a mistress ? Because she had realised he did not love her at all? How low his opinion of her was ?
DoubleFault
October 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM
I thought about this too when Je Ha saw Anna's old family picture. It somewhat seems that Se Joon had them first before Yoo Jin.
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Curious
October 9, 2016 at 11:40 PM
I think that is kind of what happened with Yong-pal though. He became an almost background character and the prisoner became to Queen Croc. Hopefully this time they won't completly butcher the drama if they do follow the same path.
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zlyfairy
October 11, 2016 at 8:23 AM
I have been thinking she is honestly misunderstood.
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13 unmyeong2025
October 9, 2016 at 8:56 PM
This episode had so many developments.
1) That Amazing Grace was no short of Amazing indeed!
2) I know Anna somehow finds JeHa more acceptable than the rest of the JSS taskforce but I want them to interact more and this episode was a great start.
3) I loved it when Jeha asked the other JSS guy a favor when asking if he could approach Anna on his own.
4) I agree the Cloud Nine part was a bit too 'Jarvis' like but I like the parallels to Snow White now. Jeha is of course our knight in shining armor (black business suit or just his birthday suit as in the bathroom scene hehehe) and Anna is the Snow White with Yoo Jin being the evil step mother.
5) I am still having a hard time being totally for YooJin with the amount of manipulation she has done. Maybe it is essential for the political world. But I wished she hadn't exiled Anna
Looking forward to the next week's episodes !
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Sancheezy
October 9, 2016 at 9:02 PM
I think they exiled Anna because she is his illegitimate daugther that will tell people about the Yoo jin's supposed involvement in killing her mom.
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kanz
October 10, 2016 at 2:10 AM
Actually based on this ep and last ep, someone commented that Yoo Jin could probably raise Anna as her daughter. I somewhat agree with that.. Actually they don't have deal with complicated issues of Anna and her attempts to escape so many times if she just let Anna live in their house.
They could probably say it's their daughter (Yoo Jin & Se Joon), make up some convenient birth secrets/forge birth certificate. It would give Yoo Jin more control to Anna and she'll probably starts seeing her as her own mother and gets father's love.
But then again we won't have the drama here.
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JaneFr
October 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM
That one of the reason I thought (hoped?) that the father was the killer. That maybe he did not want to see Anna, not because of YJ but because he was afraid it could trigger her memories of the night her mother died and that she would remember that he was there.
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14 jziecw
October 9, 2016 at 8:58 PM
Finally! That scene! The scene that we have all waited for it to appear, the scene that we all know will come sooner or later. It is only a matter of time before it is screened! And to true fashion of the show, the scene was really too long than it needs too. The infamous Subway PPL scene! (Although I wonder, as J4 Mi-ran got to go to the toilet when eating Subway, could we link the two together? rolf)
I love ep 6, although I FF a lot of unnecessary comedic scenes. At least our famle leads got better development in this episode, especially Anna.
I really like Anna in this character, she started to show that she knows more than running crazily round on Barcelona street in night gown. In fact, she was smart, calm and even bad-ass. She knew how to disguise herself (as Mi-ran and as a nun), how to react to trick the guards, where to go and what she could do. I also like YoonA's acting in this eps, even more so during her suppressed sad scenes. I also loved that she decided to eat the ice-cream despite knowing that she could die because of that.
I sympathize with Yoo-jin a bit more in this ep, but also fear for her more, especially when she ordered her subordinates to punish those people that betrayed her. I can feel a bit of psychopath/sociapath and lack of empathy in the way she spoke. But I wonder if she was like this since childhood, or if something had happened that made her to become this way. I guess Se-joon was not the first person who betrayed her, but maybe it was her beloved father who had betrayed her and her mom in the first place. The more I watched, the more I am curious about her character and her past.
Looking forward to ep 7, hope Je-ha did not have to bear too much responsibility or punishment, although I am sure he will have to take some.
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voice
October 9, 2016 at 10:37 PM
LMAO i was waiting for the subway scene too, I knew it was coming because at the end of episode 1 i saw the subway logo
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15 Sancheezy
October 9, 2016 at 9:00 PM
I think Anna open up to Jeha becauae she deliberately ate the ice cream knowing she'll die.
It's like she realised her father will be in better place without her and the ice cream solidified that. So she ate that and if you are in the verge of dying, it's not irrational to talk about something you really want because people like to be remembered, even if to strangers.
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imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 9:24 PM
I think this may be the case, sancheezy. Now you mentioned it, it reminds me of tangled where the leads will get trapped in a cave rapidly filling with water and the hero will reveal his name to the heroine thinking that someone might as well know. I thought the strawberry scene was made for je ha to do CPR on anna, but glad to see that's not the case.
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Sancheezy
October 10, 2016 at 9:50 AM
oh right. . . . this kind of scene happen in many action movie but most of it's done by the hero as my movies knowledge, like the lone hero gets all bloody and told something important that make the heroine wants to help him
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Yoyo
October 9, 2016 at 9:43 PM
On the other hand, Anna opted to have spoonful of that ice cream (shall we reference Snow White and call this the poisoned apple?) as conforming to what her father's wish is (assumingly it's Die Anna, Die!) since you know Je-ha did convince her that it was per her fathers instructions. So being the obedient daughter she is, she willingly put her life on the line (which is proof that she's reckless and spontaneous) all for her father's sake. That speaks volumes of what Anna is capable of and what risks she's willing to take for her father. This scene for me had nothing to do with Je-ha but everything to do with Anna's continued longing for her father.
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Yoyo
October 9, 2016 at 9:47 PM
Continuation...(because I accidentally clicked on the submit button)
So while we all know Anna assumed incorrectly, Je-ha might not take this accident lightheartedly. I think there's some guilt stricken moments underway which will set the tone for the Je-ha/Anna pairing.
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Sancheezy
October 10, 2016 at 9:51 AM
great, we have a poisonous berry,
move on apple, the berry is on the way!! ^^
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mary
October 11, 2016 at 1:00 AM
*IS SHOOK*
That apple... it's so cool. I really like the Snow White references. I hope they're deliberate and not just, y'know, our active imagination *cough*W*cough*
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Yoyo
October 11, 2016 at 2:09 AM
Oh @mary, W's ending is still fresh on my mind, and I'm still harping on the fact that I felt shortchanged -- primarily due to an active imagination. *sighs*
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16 Kestrel
October 9, 2016 at 9:00 PM
So, that's not how Big Data works. Also, that would violate every law in Korea and Europe and the US. /lawyered
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jziecw
October 9, 2016 at 9:10 PM
This drama could be anything BUT realistic, so while my eyebrows raised when watching how the "mirror" reacted, I immediately decided to ignore it and just go with the flow lol.
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Sancheezy
October 9, 2016 at 9:18 PM
ofc the queen weakness and power is the mirror,
and the AI just so unbelievable, if I was her, I am just gonna talk with the mirror and joke with, why deal with people when you can have fun with mirror and be happy, lol
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 9:54 PM
"So, that’s not how Big Data works."
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It's Big Data, movie magic style!
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Kestrel
October 10, 2016 at 12:57 AM
I will now wait for the obligatory reference to Snowden.
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nchoe
October 10, 2016 at 1:27 AM
Ahahaha... actually, "Xkeyscore" has just come across my mind when I read your comment.
Seriously though, doesn't this "Mirror" sound like "Xkeyscore", only smarter and has a cooler user interface?
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shelly
October 10, 2016 at 1:31 AM
laws are for the Small Data. and it doesn't matter anyway unless one gets caught lol. i guess that's their take on it.
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Sojuboy
October 10, 2016 at 2:17 AM
Why don't you tell that to CIA. :P
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crayon
October 10, 2016 at 9:15 AM
If you think CIA has a magic computer talking to them like the way they showed in this episode, think again. Seriously, think again, hard.
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Sancheezy
October 10, 2016 at 9:52 AM
yoojin probably trapped someone to read all the search option,
building AI is damn expensive
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Kestrel
October 10, 2016 at 10:19 AM
Also, it would take probably 3-4 days at least for each result of each question to crawl, index, analyze and return a report with as much data as that system apparently has. If YooJin has a computer/database that powerful, why hasn't she started the Korean Google instead of obsessing over her relatively worthless JB Corp (I think that's what it's called). She can make a lot more bank just selling that tech to the rest of the world.
I question her business advisers.
kanz
October 10, 2016 at 2:17 AM
I swear that Magic Mirror has more data than all government offices in Korea combined.. And how easy they catch criminals if they have such Magic Mirror that could locate and even predict one's supposedly secret meeting's intention.
And why I'm reminded to Mirror of The Witch...
Mirror of (Yoojin) The Witch.. LOL
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17 dewi
October 9, 2016 at 9:04 PM
Anna is the weakest character in K-drama so far. i don't know why it become a main role. I am not hating on yoona, its not about her but its the character on the series that is bad. sorry for my bad english
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Sancheezy
October 9, 2016 at 9:16 PM
I think it pretty logical when everybody had development for about 6 ep and Anna only has 1, this ep is the introduction of her.
Just like Yoo Jin and Jeha is early ep, I think they deliberately do this
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imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 9:28 PM
Your english is fine, dewi. :)
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kyle
October 10, 2016 at 4:57 AM
On contrary, she is the strongest character in the drama and by the end of it you will release why.
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JohnandVan Jackson
October 10, 2016 at 10:17 AM
Also you would think Jeha would have been given a profile Anna and been aware of any health issues, if they were really doing this bodyguard thing, a file on the her should have been made available, and made him aware of her allergies, just saying.
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18 Sera The Ms Temper
October 9, 2016 at 9:15 PM
Congratulations to the team to achieve 6% above for epi 6, and I think it will continue to rise. Although there are flaws here and there, this show has some uniqueness that feel different from other show.
Not fully yet watching the entire episode, just watching half particularly Yoo Jin's scenes. Even on the church scene, the performance is supposedly to be amazing but my eyes keep searching for Yoo Jin's reactions. Blame my heart who has been fulfilled with fangirling over Yoo Jin and Song Yoon Ah that the hot Jae Ha and innocent Anna (for now) cannot win my heart. I'm looking forward to see Anna becoming 'evil '(if it is ever happen).
This writer is truly has some style that he will use in each drama. The Cloud Nine is just like Han Yeo Jin's room in Yongpal, only certain ppl can access. But Cloud 9 is more 'dangerous' room than HJY's room. This writer actually can do a good job, in my opinion if he writes the female-centric drama and get top actress or even veterans to play the main character.
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fayyyy
October 10, 2016 at 3:57 AM
Ah at least someone who shares my opinion. Though I have partly been screening the comment section to see if anyone is rooting for song yoon ah and JCW's character to be together. They have this intangible chemistry which is just so hard to ignore! I can'\t help noticing how incredibly good song yoon ah is in her scenes, and she just dominates over every one else. Sigh, I do know this is going to end up as JCW and yoona together, but as long as they don't make song yoon ah all jealous at yoona I'd keep watching. And yes this show could just have done without the emotionally handicapped daughter part..there could have been so much build up between the president candidate's wife and bodyguard's characters so the show would have been survived solely based on them. But anyway song yoon ah is a refreshing character among the conventional women roles in kdramaland...She's probably one of the two reason I watch this drama, other would be the one man army JCW of course.
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 7:52 AM
I found that previous recap, many were also rooting for these two. maybe they disappointed on how it turned on epi 6,,well i don't know?
SYA is killing her character and she is just too awesome in her role. Even the romance will start between JH-Anna, I hope this writer will not go to the route of standard of second female lead (of coursenni still believe she is the main female lead)who fall in love with hero and end up as jealousy bitch. I rather see her busy with scheming and manipulating in the politics as well as the business.SYA is too good to be downgraded to usual bitchy role.
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19 the-basketcase
October 9, 2016 at 9:25 PM
Ugh I hate when drama's put such an emphasis on "kissing" during CPR. Dude, you're trying to save her life, not make out with her.
Also mouth-to-mouth resuscitation is not longer an effective tool in CPR. You only have to pump the chest. You would think that Je-ha would know that... oh well, gotta have that skinship.
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imbuk
October 9, 2016 at 10:02 PM
I wondered why he was not pumping the chest as well and I thought he should go take lessons from Dr. Hong Joon ki in fantastic. :p
But, I still like this drama despite it flaws and logical inconsistencies. I also enjoy the small logical inconsistencies because I know it will lead to fun discussions here in dramabeans.
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shelly
October 10, 2016 at 1:33 AM
so instead of just putting his lips on hers, he should've put his hands on her chest. i can already see the comments on that, lol.
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samantha1
October 10, 2016 at 12:45 AM
THIS!!!!
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siesta
October 10, 2016 at 1:25 AM
serious medical question here: i googled CPR and it said: "You would give rescue breathing when the heart is beating but the person is not breathing (there is a pulse). You normally find this scenario with drowning victims. You would give CPR if the person was not breathing and their heart was not beating (no pulse)."
so technically, in this case, what he did was correct since she had a pulse, just not breathing normally?
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20 Yoyo
October 9, 2016 at 9:29 PM
They finally made the Snow White reference! Yay!
So as evident as it is, Yoo-jin is the evil queen, Je-ha is the hunstman and Anna is Snow White. But, I really love how they made the mirror reference into an A.I and called it "mirror" that was impressively funny.
I'm still hoping that the shows production team takes a different route and allow Anna to tap into her dark side, because there's more potential for her character to grow and develop as that side is explored. I've said so much in ep 5's recap that I have come to terms with all the good, bad and great points of this show.
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shelly
October 10, 2016 at 1:54 AM
this is sad - yoo jin knows herself that much to see herself as evil, has a captive husband and a step-daughter she'd rather do away with, even has a magic mirror, which i assume she called that exactly because she sees herself as she is - yet there were all those moments where she seemed to need touch and love and romance like every one of us. she's by far the best character of the drama, evil or not.
though the snow white reference begs the question - seven dwarves? prince on a white horse? - i hope they don't kill je-ha to make place for the saviour.
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21 saranga
October 9, 2016 at 9:32 PM
1. subway again, lmao. although i'll say that it was quite tolerable compared to other subway PPLs. and might have gone over respectably, had they not shown the obnoxious, embarrassment-to-women female bodyguard chowing down on one like a gross pig and subsequently getting an upset stomach. fantastic strategy. really makes me want a subway. i'm sure the company is highly pleased with their investment.
2. anna's sudden development of street smarts threw me off, and i'm glad i don't seem to be the only one. if we had more background story, i wouldn't be so puzzled. how on earth did she know how to hail a cab, and how did she even know how to get around seoul? for a girl who has been confined to a mountainside monastery for 14 years, she knows too much about the world. while i'm sure she received an academic education and wasn't locked up in a single room in the monastery for 14 years, i assumed that her social skills and contact with the outside world was extremely limited, given our first introduction to her. has she at least had access to television? how did she know how thermal cameras work?
3. yoo-jin's and je-ha's interactions are the best thing about the show. actually, any scene with yoo-jin in it is riveting. i have never found song yoon-ah so fascinating. there are flashes of moments where i see her shrill on air character, but mostly she's amazing and continues to be amazing at making me sympathetic to her character.
she's definitely fearsome and ruthless, and evil in that she orders killings when necessary, but also, she doesn't attack without reason. i personally didn't have a problem with her going after the people who had tried to betray her; i would have done the same thing in her situation, had i had her resources and power. i'm also of the "eye for an eye" sort. you know, if someone slaps you in the cheek, you slap them back twice, on both cheeks. it's not a character trait to boast of, but i can certainly understand it in yoo-jin.
4. did anna herself not know she's allergic to strawberries? or maybe she didn't think it stretched to ice cream? like how the grandmother in god's gift 14 days didn't realize that acorn jelly (dotori mook) was also a nut and that saet-byul was allergic to nuts—allergies can get tricky.
5. this show's definitely not perfect nor 100 percent logical, but i'm entertained. i just hope it doesn't veer too much into ridiculousness from time to time and just keeps itself reined in.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 9:43 PM
"did anna herself not know she’s allergic to strawberries?"
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My interpretation is that she knew of her allergy but ate the ice cream despite this, because it's what she thinks her father wants.
Here's my analysis from my comment above:
Asking Je-ha if her father sent the treat, she pauses when Je-ha lies that it was. She seems to accept something unknown to us, and then resigns, "If it's from Father I should eat it, right?" Unknown to us until we learn at the end of her strawberry allergy, she eats the ice cream knowing it will most likely kill her, thinking it's what her father wants.
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erratic
October 9, 2016 at 9:51 PM
Yep, that explains Anna's hesitation, her confirming whether the "treat" came from her father, and her last words before losing consciousness, "Little did I know that I'm the bad guy" (non-verbatim). She was well aware of her allergy and the fact that her dad knew, as well. She thought her father was throwing her away.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 10:01 PM
"She thought her father was throwing her away."
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I hope Je-ha likes girls with daddy issues!
Anyway, in all seriousness, she's gonna need a hug when she gets out of the hospital. And maybe some therapy.
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nchoe
October 10, 2016 at 12:33 AM
Ahhhh... that makes sense. I also think that Anna ate that ice cream in attempt to kill herself. But I never thought the possibility that she misunderstood that ice cream as poisoned apple sent by daddy dearest for her to end her life for good.
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saranga
October 9, 2016 at 10:08 PM
went back and rewatched the scene. i agree, it does look like she ate it knowingly. and there were actual strawberries in it. i missed that the first time around.
though, i'd assumed that her father had sent bodyguards to that spot and also had them bring her ice cream, not specifying a flavor. but she thinks her dad would have bought the ice cream personally or specified a flavor.
it wasn't shown, but it WAS her dad who sent the bodyguards there, right? it really did seem like he didn't know where to go in that scene with yoo-jin, but i suppose he figured it out? OR je-ha did. he saw the photo of young anna with her parents in episode 5, and based on the clothing worn, it looks like the same day that anna was remembering and hoping her dad also remembered. i don't know that the location was obviously recognizable, but hey, it's super genius bodyguard je-ha.
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Liyah
October 9, 2016 at 10:19 PM
Two girls took a photo and posted it online. Anna was captured in the background of the photo. That's how JSS found her.
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Lord Cobol
October 9, 2016 at 11:23 PM
"there were actual strawberries in it. i missed that the first time around."
Me too. I had to go back & check because I figured "strawberry" ice cream might not have any actual strawberry.
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Yoyo
October 11, 2016 at 2:24 AM
Nope. It wasn't the Assemblyman that sent the JSS troopers to Anna. The super computer (the super dooper computer is the AI in cloud 9) of JSS control center managed to get a hit from the uploaded selfie (guessing cloud upload?) of those 2 random girls at the theme park. The selfie had Anna in the background and because its JSS' super computer with facial recognition software, they got a match and triangulated her location thus sending Je-ha and the JSS trooper brigade.
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shelly
October 10, 2016 at 1:58 AM
the poisoned apple?
it would have made such an impact had yoo jin sent the ice cream... though she wouldn't, not if she needs anna to control se-jeon.
and even more important, if yoo jin had sent it and anna still had accepted it...
by now, i guess the bodyguards are all dwarves lol.
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Kestrel
October 10, 2016 at 12:58 AM
Does this mean Subway has officially reached Peak PPL? Is this the moment Subway officially jumps the shark? What's next?
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kyle
October 10, 2016 at 5:19 AM
` anna’s sudden development of street smarts threw me off, and i’m glad i don’t seem to be the only one. if we had more background story, i wouldn’t be so puzzled. how on earth did she know how to hail a cab, and how did she even know how to get around seoul? for a girl who has been confined to a mountainside monastery for 14 years, she knows too much about the world. while i’m sure she received an academic education and wasn’t locked up in a single room in the monastery for 14 years, i assumed that her social skills and contact with the outside world was extremely limited, given our first introduction to her. has she at least had access to television? how did she know how thermal cameras work?`
Did you even watch this drama or you're just being butthurt for a sake of it? Every single question you asked has been answered in the drama, that is, if you watched more closely.
1. Anna knew how to use a cab since she was 8 , and if you watched closely she used cab /hitchhiked to get to the city back when she was in Spain.
2. She told the taxi driver where to take her, she didn't get there on her own. Than when she got near the photo store she started to remember places from her childhood.
3.Her contact with the outside world obviously wasn't limited as it was implied from episode one that she escaped multiple times, even once when she found out her father was on a visit in Madrid. Which brings us to next point........
4. She obviously had access to some form of media : newspapers , tv ,radio etc. She could have learned how thermal camera works from a random movie or tv show.
5. Anna obv knew she had strawberry allergies and she also knew her father knows. She ate ice cream on purpose which you could understand from the monologue she was having while eating it.
So instead of purposely finding plot holes or character holes maybe you should watch the actual drama more carefully.
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Dean
October 10, 2016 at 8:54 AM
I was going to answer him, but you said it right.
Everything is pretty much answered in the drama.
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saranga
October 10, 2016 at 8:18 PM
@kyle: it's you who comes across like the "butthurt" one, because to you i'm "purposely" nitpicking at a show that presumably you are enjoying. i don't need to explain my comment to you or anyone else, because there's absolutely nothing about it that requires apology or justification. but for your information, i DID watch this episode and this show also happens to be my favorite of the lot currently airing.
and fan or not, as a watcher i still have every right to pick apart stuff as i see fit, so long as it's done respectfully. that's what this place is for, to come and ask questions, and bring up points that i think are worth noting, including things i might not have picked up on the first go. i hope you possess perfect encyclopedic knowledge of all 6 episodes to be able to tell someone off for not watching carefully. it's unnecessarily passive aggressive comments like yours that i think can make the comment section such an unfriendly environment for people who have no ulterior motives than to just discuss a show they've watched.
sure, i missed a couple of things. like the ice cream stuff (which i still don't think was daylight-obvious that she ate on purpose; i'm sure there were some who only suspected or didn't catch on to it), and JSS finding anna through a photo (a scene i still need to go back and find). but the rest of it, i still strongly contend that it was only implied, not confirmed.
as i said, we don't know anna's full story of her 14 years at the monastery. we don't know how she spent those years, what kind of social contact or education she might have had. we don't know who took care of her there. if she was confined to a single room or had full or partial access to the monastery. we don't KNOW if she had television (where she might have learned about thermal cameras). we hardly know what her life was like at all.
she was 9 years old (probably 8 in korean age) when she was taken. an 8 year old knows hardly anything about the world, and i'm assuming anna's existence was always an unusual one. her father's identity was a secret, raised by a mother who was a famous actress. so i think it can be presumed that she likely didn't go to very many places freely or have many friends. aka, not a lot of exposure to the world. and then she was at the monastery for 14 years.
because of all the aforementioned, i didn't know if it was logical that she knew how to hail a cab or how to navigate seoul. seoul has changed a lot in the past 14 years, if we are talking about 2002-2016. i know from personal experience. 14 years is a tremendous span of time. i hardly remember much from when i was 8; anna barely remembered the housekeeper who had lived with her until the photo jogged her memory.
so no, from my view, i don't think every one of my questions were definitively addressed by the drama. in the future, if my comments don't suit you, i'd advise you to simply move on if you aren't willing to help out.
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22 erratic
October 9, 2016 at 9:48 PM
Loved the Amazing Grace sequence. Looked like Yoo Jin teared up despite herself. And yes, that confrontation in the car made me a bit more charitable toward Yoo Jin.
Also, when Je Ha called Yoo Jin chinggu. Lol.
Also, a line from the Wedding Singer ran through my mind during the aftermath of the ice cream scene, "As I said, things should have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY." Come on, you're guarding a VIP. Couldn't you have bern briefed about potentially deadly risks on the person of interest, including suicidal tendencies and maybe, oh, I don't know, lethal allergies?
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elhan
October 9, 2016 at 10:56 PM
I also noticed Yoojin crying as Anna was singing and wondered why she was? Was she moved by it? Scared that everything would be revealed? That kinda distracted me from the beautiful scene it was. Still not sure...
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 12:53 AM
I just re-watched this scene to analyse it from my perspective. In my opinion, she was teared up because at first, she was too anxious that Anna will reveal herself, then that song probably moved her heart as well.
But what is more interesting, when she was teared up,,, and while looking at her husband... she is probably angered by the reaction by her husband, ... Anna father's reaction seems moved / touched a bit but his anxiety what Anna will do probably feared his the most.
Her crying scenes.. probably a mix of many feelings. As much as she doesn't want world to know about Anna's existence, her husband's reaction angered her more. I feel like she can relate herself with Anna a bit, because she probably understand the best about the feeling of a child who is thirsty for father's love. The conversation in the car somehow made me think that Yoo Jin is still a humanity side in herself. At least this is what I see for now, of course more to reveal in next episodes.
I actually really want to see from Anna's father view, is he a real ass**** or just pretend? He always claimed and blamed Yoo Jin for everything, but is he that powerless? I want to know as well, is he ever had any plan for Anna? Or he basically does not have any plan and just follow whatever Yoo Jin decides? Hope the writer will be able to give us these answers. For now, I don't have any faith on his father. He also not smart to be in politics, he is just like the name and title, every others works all done by Yoo Jin.
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saranga
October 10, 2016 at 8:46 PM
i looooved yoo-jin in that scene. it was so intense and powerful, and it was probably yoo-jin at the most vulnerable she's ever been in public.
i'm still not sure what her exact emotions would have been in that scene, but i'm guessing it was probably a mixture of everything she's ever felt towards anna. fury, resentment, fear, hate, jealousy.
it'll be really interesting to get more of the back story—i hope, this upcoming week. personally, i suspect that anna was conceived/born before se-joon married yoo-jin, and regardless of whether he knew of anna, se-joon chose to marry yoo-jin to fulfill his own ambitions. i have no doubt, on the other hand, that yoo-jin initially loved se-joon and this was confirmed by the show too.
finding out what kind of deal or arrangement there might have been prior to the marriage would really help in understanding the dynamic between se-joon and yoo-jin.
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23 dramaniac
October 9, 2016 at 9:51 PM
Goddamit it was all because of those subway sandwiches!! If J4 hadn't eaten two gosh dang subways anna wouldn't have been able to escape and wouldn't be placed in such life threatening or soul crushing positions!
IT WAS THE SUBWAY ALL ALONG
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erratic
October 9, 2016 at 10:10 PM
I fully expected Anna to spike the sandwich. That would have leveled up the role of the Subway sandwich exponentially. Injecting the drug into the drink was positively humdrum. Lol!
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24 Abbie
October 9, 2016 at 10:05 PM
More of Anna was what I wanted and what we got. And I loved it. I never thought Anna was stupid or inept, and I always got the impression that her social phobia was a misdiagnosis because the JSS isn't is great as these people seem to think it is. So her leaving and using her own initiative to ferret out information about her mother's death and where her father is didn't seem that farfetched to me. And I think at the end when she eats that ice cream, knowing she's allergic, but that it's from her father, I think she fully expected (perhaps even wanted) to die. I just hope Je-ha's friendship can help her. She's a fragile young woman who has just been shattered into pieces. I hope Je-ha can help put her back together again.
(Side note: I think Yoona is doing a really good job in this drama.)
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 10:35 PM
@Abbie +1
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25 Jane
October 9, 2016 at 10:06 PM
I want to point out two things:
1. Anna has been observing her limited environment all the time. The times she sneaked out and earsdropped came in handy for her disguise. I'm sure Miran talked about it before. Plus drugging Miran was Anna's small revenge for her drugging in Spain. Furthermore, did you notice the books in her attic? She is not as alienated to the world as we think. Plus, when you are alone with your thoughts you become creative, she had time to plot her escape.
2. Anna probably knew she was about to die when she ate the ice cream. She even thought her father wants her dead because he was sending someone with strawberries for her. In that moment to open up to someone she knows even just from seeing is not that unnormal.
Anna's development might have seem a bit too progressive for one episode but blame that on her limited screen time during prior episodes. It would have been smoother if they started it earlier and did not wasted it with Rayum.
Anyway, Jeha will now do everything in his power to protect Anna after almost killing her.
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26 anna96
October 9, 2016 at 10:11 PM
I think it'd be better and more interesting if there was no love line. Yoo Jin and Je ha's relationship is charming already (i haven't seen anything like this in a drama before, it's like they understand and trust eachother without need of words and it's not love but just sympathy which bonds them, AMAZING). Also Anna and Je ha's love seems a little forced, i liked how he was cheering for her though i wish it was just another friendship-supportive reationship (does it make sense?). Je ha has a business to do which is far from love, he has to take revenge for her dead girlfriend but suddenly we see him saying "maybe it wasn't love" hmmmmm then why give us a proposal and kiss in the first place?
I'd rather Je ha be a closer friend to Anna to help her at end then a love interest....
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solace
October 10, 2016 at 2:51 AM
On the character relationship chart provided by tvn, there wasn't actually a love line. On the lines between YoonA and JCW, it says friendly relations (or something similar). I think they won't end up together(?). I don't know if they'll use the chart as basis for writing the script.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpk3EAQVYAEnM_l.jpg:small
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stedens
October 23, 2016 at 11:35 AM
eh, some of the promo shoots make it look like there will be a love line between anna and je ha, though. unless they just made yoona and jcw pose together closely for prettiness.
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27 Michiki
October 9, 2016 at 10:14 PM
JCW acting is perfect. I cried a few times ...
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ashie
October 10, 2016 at 1:57 PM
+1000000
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Maral
October 10, 2016 at 3:54 PM
i totally agree. unfortunately some criticized him by saying he is doing nth except actions scenes. but his acting is really awesome and on point. apart from his past in this episode that he nailed it he is doing all kinds of emotions from anger to control to laugh to smile just with they eyes. He doesnt have big tears anymore or much shouting like many drama heros but he nails it with his eyes and his body language even the way he walks. I think his acting is even better than healer which i totally loved. ( i think yoona is doing a great job too)
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28 Dean
October 9, 2016 at 10:28 PM
I love that supercomputer!
I like that it moves with different colors on the wall with YooJin. It was really cool. Like it was living. (Whoever was the set design. Did a great job!)
I love that irony of Cloud Nine but it is underneath.
I love the hallway to get to the main area.
I love that the name is Mirror.
I love the reference to Snow White.
I love that it is underground, hidden from the world but always there amongst people (which is a nice reference about data).
I love that it is controlled only by YooJin (like the evil queen and her mirror in Snow White).
They did a great job, and enjoyed the creativity and imagination from the cast and crew of K2.
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bluemings
October 10, 2016 at 3:29 PM
+100
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29 Amy
October 9, 2016 at 10:28 PM
I wud like to disagree with the commentary about Anna. With all its faults I found today's ep is a great improvement in itself regarding the story and character growth. I think people are overanalysing Anna's character.
The reason why JSS didn't had Anna's allergic details was because she was hidden away from the world as much as if such a person didnt exist and other than from people in the close circle non of the staff even knew who they where guarding and also the Ice cream was not a strategic decision from the part of JSS. It was an act of kindness from Jae ha's part that caused all these trouble.
Never ever in the show we are shown that she had "severe social phobia" other than what is being told by the lady and bodyguard. Only people who was around her was her enemies or her captors and why wud she be social with them esp when non of them sympathize with her. There is a scene where that lady j4 badmouths Anna when she was in the next room.
Another thing is while her run away attempts in Spain were desperate acts to escape, here she had clear motivation and destination so I found it sensible that she succeeded this much in her mission. (What was people expecting, since she is 'unsocial childish locked away and has 11 year old's brain she will be sneakingly destroy yoo jin's clothes or will be setting fire to the house or what ?? )
As for her interaction with K2, I dont know why she wud feel resentment toward him. He must be the first stranger to ever help her that much and also in their second meeting he was holding a gun against Yoo jin, her enemy and we are clearly shown that whenever Jae ha's name is mentioned around her she take special note of what is being said. Sometimes in special situations we are able to open up with strangers more than we expect to, this has happened to me before and I was even not planning to commit suicide.
Even if Anna understood that Jae ha is being just being nice to her and is lying to about Ice cream it cud also mean that her father didnt cared enough to come and get her even after all these commotions. THat's her whole world crumbling before her. For me it speaks volume about her character and perception about life.
I think the life after this incident will be very much different for her. In a teaser Anna is shown as saying that "when my dad becomes president, I have to die? But I don't want to" that's what i am waiting to see, her post realization stage.
As for Jae ha I dont think there are any romantic feelings from his side for any of our ladies. But so far I think Anna is the person whom he empathize with more, though Yoo jin is the one saved in every ep by him.
His words about Rania gives much insight about His dynamics with Anna. So this incident will make him feel more responsible towards Anna.
(Sorry for all the grammar mistakes)
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Curious
October 10, 2016 at 12:26 AM
+1 YES!
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30 Ren
October 9, 2016 at 10:31 PM
Remember when this show gave us those heart-wrenching scenes between Je-ha and the orchard farmers who had lost their son? When there was actual politicking between the electoral candidates and Se-joon was going to win rather than just umm..kill Representative Park? Those were the days, they should really consider bringing that stuff back.
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31 UmbrellaMan
October 9, 2016 at 10:47 PM
My scattered thoughts:
1. How has J4 maintained her job?Worst. Bodyguard. Ever. Fire her ass now! And still annoying.
2. Freaking Subway. (J4 you deserved that tummy ache)
3. At least we got more info on why Raniya would have been at their camp, as an interpreter. Mildly more believable. His backstory is finally fleshed out.
4. Assemblyman Park has the WORST church manners. EVER.
5. So Anna is the daughter of his mistress, an actress. I was never really clear on what exactly was the relationship between the adults. Fairly obvious looking back, but until now I just wasn't getting it.
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Dean
October 9, 2016 at 11:00 PM
LOL. Assemblyman Park was unbelievable. I LOL during that scene (from yelling across the church to clapping).
It was hilarious!!
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UmbrellaMan
October 9, 2016 at 11:09 PM
Hilariously inappropriate!?Hahaha
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 12:58 AM
I cannot believe this man! LOL. But seeing him is more fun than seeing Anna's father. This man know how to fool other ppl. He always play dumb to cover his actual character.
I want to see more of him - Yoo Jin scenes.
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elhan
October 9, 2016 at 11:01 PM
Totally agree, how does J4 still have a job?!!!! She must be JSS' director's daughter or something. Most annoying character on this show by a landslide.
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Eman Resu
October 9, 2016 at 11:11 PM
"Assemblyman Park has the WORST church manners. EVER."
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I know right?! The man was just yelling out across the whole room like he was in a gymnasium during a basketball game trying to find his seat and get the attention of his friends above the roar of the crowd.
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bluemings
October 10, 2016 at 3:31 PM
So true, that man is ridiculous! And how does J4 still have her job? All she does is complain, eat and sleep LOL
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32 shenelini
October 9, 2016 at 10:47 PM
(Comment 1/2): The K2 really does resemble a Grimms’ fairy tale.There’s the wicked stepmother/witch, the hapless father, the innocent child and the knight in shining amor (but pulling double duty and rescuing more people than he’s supposed to).
This thought first occurred to me when Madam Choi Yoo Jin called her AI “Mirror”, like Snow White’s stepmother. She has all the traits of a witch: she’s cunning, ruthless, and by most standards, wicked. But above all, she is also childless and lonely, just like all the witches in the tales. In the previous episode she said ruefully that she had a mutual understanding with her dead aunt for the both of them had no children, and also said something to the effect of “I don’t even have a niece like me (for when I am old next time)”. That was a very clear sign of her loneliness, I think. She knows that her husband does not love her (and he has mentioned her barrenness as an attack on her if my memory serves me right), the people around her are all subordinates, enemies, or want something from her like her brother. And she doesn’t even have a child who she can love unconditionally, who will love and understand her too.
As much power as she has right now, I think someone as sharp as she is knows full well that people around her fear her but do not really care for her and would discard her once she loses control over them, which is why she holds the reins so tight now.
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33 shenelini
October 9, 2016 at 10:50 PM
Comment (2/2) For someone as successful and powerful as Yoo Jin, to be unable to bear children (something that many Asians still do place importance on, I think), her childlessness must smart as a sore point.
Something noteworthy, I think, is that she refers to Jeha as a child in the scene in Ep 5 where he escorts her out of the funeral place with the umbrella. She thinks to herself “I definitely didn’t press that button twice. Yet, that child knew that I needed him anyway.” Hopefully, it’s a sign that the K2 team isn’t going to make this Jeha-Yoojin romantic ship happen, but instead keep it a dynamic relationship that could be simply of two people who understand each other in certain ways, and learn to care for each other (WITHOUT THE ROMANCE). Who knows, her feelings about Jeha might even veer more in a maternal/protective direction in the future.
Also, what’s interesting is that the K2’s core story can be compared to Rapunzel as well. In Rapunzel, Rapunzel’s father stole from the witch’s garden to satisfy his wife’s cravings, and Rapunzel was born. Then the witch took Rapunzel away to raise her as her own daughter, and locked her up in a tower. Like the witch, the Madam has also taken Anna away from her father, keeping her away from the world. But something that struck me was how Yoo Jin treated Anna when they first met, after Anna returned to Korea. She had cooked for her.
It’s been mentioned a few times through the series that Yoo Jin used to cook for her husband, but no longer does (apparently after Anna’s mother died, and she presumably spoke openly about his affair for the first time to warn him from going to Anna). In the first episode alone during her interview she talks about cooking for her husband, presenting herself as the perfect wife, when in reality, she does not. This is the first clear sign that this family is a façade. In Korea and Asia in general, food is something that brings families together, with mealtimes being family time. Food from grandmothers for a favourite grandchild are a symbol of love; a mother’s dish becomes one of the fondest memories of home. Yoo Jin refusing to prepare meals for her husband for the past fourteen years indicates the lack of love in their marriage. Perhaps I’m reaching, but when Yoo Jin cooked for Anna after not bothering to do the same for her husband for so long, I think it’s a hint at a curious dynamic on Yoo Jin’s side in regards to Anna and is open to more interpretation.
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Amy
October 9, 2016 at 10:56 PM
Now we even have the poisonous apple (ice cream) and true love kiss (mtm CPR). so what will happen when the snow white wakes up from her sleep??
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Sancheezy
October 10, 2016 at 9:58 AM
she met the prince . . .
oh wait . . . we don't have any prince yet
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34 missme
October 9, 2016 at 10:57 PM
The writing is baffling in this drama, which is why I'm not buying alot of what they are attempting to sell. Yoojin is so far the most intriguing and consistent character. Jeha... they take him off on odd tangents that just don't make much sense, but is still interesting enough to watch. The father is an oddity, Yoojin was right tbh he's always saying he's doing everything for Anna, but he can't even interpret what his daughter was asking in that note? Don't get me wrong Yoojin, is bordering on sociopath, but at least you expect her to be that way. Anna, I kind of understand what they want to do with her, but it's being exexuted so oddly that it gets lost in translation.
The romance is still not there for me, but hopefully they get consistent with the writing because I really still do like it for Yoojin, but the rest... hmm
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35 Insomnia
October 9, 2016 at 11:24 PM
Girl was about to commit suicide, at least let her talk about her pain before she goes.
I don't believe she really has those phobias...I see them as a protective measure. If they see her as weak sickly & not so smart, they don't see her as much of a threat.
When she says "it was all an illusion" The ending scene was sad to me, all those years of holding on to the happy memories of her dad and letting them keep her going all came tumbling down cause of some strawberries! Shame. I Don't see Anna as weak at all infact I think she's the opposite.
The church scene was breathtaking ...step mom giving her dagger eyes(it's a church woman calm down lol) her dad not wanting to meet her gaze, it just shows just how desperate she wants to hold on to her childhood.
Her dad and step mom have the most crazed & fucked up marriage I've ever seen wow! How do they even get to smile so well and be so fake nice to people & still hate each other so much.
Am addicted to this drama, excited of how they are gonna take it from here.
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Ram
October 9, 2016 at 11:35 PM
That ending is so powerful and heartbreaking! Anna letting go of the illusion of the caring dad that sustained her for most of her life, then eating the strawberries so she can "free" herself and her father. Well-acted too! I really felt the pain and the heartbreak from Yoona in that scene.
And as you've said, her social phobia, introversion and frailty, are just the illusion/mask she shows to all the enemies that surround her. The fact that Anna have escaped so much before (J4 notwithstanding) shows she has plenty of courage and intelligience.
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36 Ram
October 9, 2016 at 11:24 PM
I'm not sure why commenters here are always harping on the bad direction or plot holes etc. I found the show easy to follow and the plot crystal. I'm always surprised by commenters missing plot points (like the planted mistress that YJ paraded in front of Kwang Soo). The show always pays off its plot points (like Anna dancing during the ramen scenes, then showing that's how she was with her mother).
And I'm pissed at the hostility to Anna! She's had only one episode to develop her, and people here are calling her a virginal idiot, then expressing confusion when she shows agency, intelligience and social skills. Like most I prefer the YJ ship, but the hostility and criticism to Anna is so unwarranted!
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Insomnia
October 9, 2016 at 11:38 PM
Yah I really think it's unwarranted. Yoo Jin has been given a few episodes to develop, at least give Anna some benefit of the doubt since we've only seen a bit of her story from her own perspective.
I like how the story is pacing itself and am curious of where it's going.
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37 Rigby
October 9, 2016 at 11:27 PM
This is so far the best espisode for me. Things of Jeha's Iraq life has been revealed plus Anna's parents. There are still loose ends and perhaps it will be tied together in the coming episodes. Thank goodness for this episode it made it clearer and the plot is progressing! I am not really sure of the loveline, no solid interacrions yet from Jeha and Anna to build an emotions! I hope to see a clearer reasons for them to fall in love actually, not just longer ramyun scene or rooftop with kitten scene, strawberry ice cream scene or cpr scene!!!
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Giegie
October 10, 2016 at 6:57 AM
So no ramyum cf in this episode? :D
I hate & like those ramyun scenes btw.
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38 Insomnia
October 9, 2016 at 11:28 PM
And TBH now that I've seen Anna's side of the story am actually more intrigued to know more about her.
I don't think je ha & Anna are at that romance stage yet. Je ha just sees her as some pitiful girl & Anna sees him as someone who helped her once. How they are gonna move on to the romance part am really excited to see....cause they match really well.
Damnit this is why I hate watching on going dramas, the wait is excruciating
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tsinita
October 9, 2016 at 11:59 PM
i'm going to camp with you on this one. Yes! Aside from JCW hot nekkid bod, I'm here for the romance.
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39 angelajungxx
October 9, 2016 at 11:32 PM
So i was gonna say, the ost for K2 is amazing!
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40 Lord Cobol
October 9, 2016 at 11:32 PM
"I once was lost but now am found." Good line for this show.
So I guess Mi-ran was portrayed as so ditzy and incompetent before so it wouldn't seem too out of place when she gets totally played. They needed somebody inept enough so the escape would be believable. Not like they could have someone untrained make a fool of someone competent like K2 himself -- but come to think of it, I think that would be the show I'd rather watch.
I'm sure we're supposed to think the Mi-ran was knocked out by the drug in the syringe -- the alternative would be that the Subways poisoned her.
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41 Rigby
October 9, 2016 at 11:33 PM
I almost forgot, yoojin and jeha are awesome! I find them as partners in crime rather than partners with romantic interlude. Although they really have this unexplainable subtle sizzling chemistry, but my logic and the story will not permit it! Kudos to JCW and SYA for the fantastic acting! They are just nailing their scenes together! ???
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 1:03 AM
JCW basically has a thing for noona romance, ( not that I want any romance bwtween JH-YJ). I dont really remember if he ever partnered with younger actress before, except now with Yoona.
Aaaa, his chemistry also great with Baek Jin Hee in Empress Ki and she is younger than him. Although no romance, but their relationship was somewhat interesting as well. They used to have a little bit cute relationship before it became enraged and hateful.
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Rigby
October 10, 2016 at 1:36 AM
Agree with you @Sara The Ms Temper on Baek Jin Hee. They really were cute in EK and they really look good on screen. I actually love all their scenes together even they are not really romantic scenes! There's really this appeal with JCW that he can create a real good chemistry (romantic or non-romantic, with his co stars (noona or younger)
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Giegie
October 10, 2016 at 7:06 AM
Hi ate Rigby!
They look so good together that sometimes I want them to get a room,rip their clothes off & just get on with it lol
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42 angelajungxx
October 9, 2016 at 11:34 PM
Although the CPR scene may be slightly unrealistic as mentioned in the comments above, it's still a very sweet segment between the leads.
Thus, i'll be rooting for Je-ha and Anna even more !
Woop woop C:
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43 Agent 48
October 9, 2016 at 11:43 PM
This drama is becoming a fairytale. Seriously.
Firstly, the villain has an AI that rivals even Iron Man's J.A.R.V.I.S. Soon she's gonna have a super soldier, a thunder god, some super spies and a hulk.
Secondly, and the most amazing of all, is Anna's absolutely stunning spy capabilities. This lady will put Agent 47 (of Hitman fame) to shame:
- She sneaks in and steal a disguise, and then drugs her 'captor's' drink.
- She slips out and impersonates her captor, while keeping her face hidden.
- Hails a taxi and thinks about old times.
- Follows more clues.
- Changes into a new disguise and walks out right under the guards' noses.
- Finds her targets and make them shit themselves.
- Changes again and leaves an obscure clue to her location.
Fantastic.
If I didn't know better this could well be a new Hit-Woman game.
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Jane
October 10, 2016 at 12:30 AM
I see, you do not even bother to read some of the plausible analysis above. You are just blinded by your bashing instead of thinking and look at the details.
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Jane
October 10, 2016 at 12:33 AM
A better word for bashing is sarcasm.
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 1:30 AM
I just cannot see this as is bashing. He/ She is just being sarcastic on something that looks ridiculous to him/her Is it now even allowed here?
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Jane
October 10, 2016 at 3:07 AM
I corrected myself to sarcasm before you posted. Please to read!
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saranga
October 10, 2016 at 2:33 AM
i don't think agent 48 is bashing blindly, just being sarcastic. after all compared to what we saw in spain, anna is suddenly super capable and collected and slips past her bodyguards/captors more than once.
personally i got a small chuckle out of the summary.
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Agent 48
October 10, 2016 at 3:30 AM
Thank you saranga! I'm glad you got a small chuckle of what I wrote. And yes you are very right indeed, I wasn't bashing at all, just that my post was littered with a lot of sarcasm.
First of all, apologies to Jane and Sera if my post offended you. I certainly did not mean any harm. *bows*
On to the serious stuff... and the reason for the heavy sarcasm.
This drama, at least to me, was built on realism. This is one of the very few shows with the protagonist getting hit by the villain's minions - i.e. the fights are realistic. There are shows where the protagonist just waltzes through everyone up until the final 'boss' before the real fight happens. In that sense, K2 is realistic and I appreciate the effort in it.
And then all of a sudden we are introduced to 'Mirror', who is a super super powerful AI. I wasn't joking when I said Mirror can rival J.A.R.V.I.S, and suddenly a bit of the realism that this drama is built on is put to question.
After that we are treated to Anna, who is suddenly an amazing spy, making her escape and blending into her surroundings - stuff that happens in video games like Hitman and Assassin's Creed.
We could get an explanation later in the drama, but if she did this in Spain when she first escaped, she would be home free loooooooooong ago. Although I appreciate that this was done to show her resourcefulness and intelligence, I still feel that it is a little too out of the blue.
Anyway this is just my 2 cents worth. Make no mistake, I REALLY REALLY enjoy this drama, and as much as how Yoo Jin is painted to be a super-villain, I sincerely hope for a happy ending for her.
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 7:59 AM
OH NO, No need for apology. I found your comment is funny and not something call bashing. ;) I just wanted to explain to Jane and asked her why she found your comment bashing / sarcasm. Lol
sancheezy
October 10, 2016 at 10:03 AM
but if she did this in Spain when she first escaped, she would be home free loooooooooong ago----
I don't think she can, she need a passport and the marvellous AI will find her right away,
besides the bodyguard in Span didn't underestimate her, they even split up to catch her,
Lola
October 10, 2016 at 10:58 AM
I'm not against sarcasm and I corrected myself in a reply because I realized "bashing" is the wrong word.
Anyway, my point is I don't see the need of sarcasm. Maybe I'm just a very detailed person but there were so many instances were we saw that Anna is a very smart capable person.
Fleeing a nunnery in Spain is not an easy feat. More importantly, in Spain she was scarred for her life because two spanisch men were following her and she wanted to escape that time. She thought her father was in Madrid and could help her. She was frustrated and begged a complete stranger for help. In Korea she escaped, as well, just a bit more organised because she planned that one. She might have heard about her father being in Madrid and took the chance.
Anna has TV and as we know she not only watches the home shopping channel so she is not as alienated to world. (She watched the news of her father which I guess was not on the homeshopping channel.) She has a lot of books in her attic and most importantly she observed her enviornment. When she sneaked out to watch the people and conversation you could see in her face that she was thinking and plotting. At the end of the day, she just went by what she saw and it worked mostly because J4 is completely incapable.
Another point is her childhood. Her father asked her at the amusement park what she would do when she gets lost. Little Anna answered: take a cab and tell the driver the address. What did grown up Anna do: called a cab and told the driver her old home address. When Anna was sitting on the bench waiting for her father, she did again was her father told her: waiting for him at the spot where they lost each other. She goes by the knowledge of her childhood.
The last point: she did not interacted much with other people in the episode. First interaction: with the photographer out of curiousity. There was a picture of her and her mother, of course she is curious why it is there. Everyone would be and she probably thought that the men knows more about her mother. Second encounter: the ajhumma who she knows from her childhood day and probably trusts, again to get more information about what happened all those years ago. I think Anna wants to know what happened back then and why.
Last encounter: Jeha at the bench. At first she does not really talk. Then she thinks her father wants her dead. Yes, Jeha lies to her about the ice-cream and her father sending him but all Anna gets is: Dad sends a men with strawberries after being unable to look me in the eyes. He wants to get rid of me so lets eat strawberries even through it means possible death. Under different circumstances she might not have told that to Jeha but these were kind of different so it is not unnormal she shared her story with someone.
Anna not onced behaved like someone with social phobia and it might be just one of the many lies the housekeeper was told to not make contact with her.
I hope I make sense!
saranga
October 10, 2016 at 8:55 PM
same, i'm also really enjoying this show (i think i was quite starved for a decent action thriller!) and i'm ridiculously excited for this fri/sat's episodes. but that doesn't render me it blind to some of its glaring flaws. it's totally possible to enjoy watching a show but also criticize it at the same time.
i've been combing through the comments of this episode, and some commenters have brought up that anna's development wasn't as abrupt as some seem to think. the points brought up were quite valid (that anna was shown listening to and observing her surroundings and bodyguards. after all, she did find a way to get onto the rooftop too).
i just think maybe it wasn't quite enough to justify anna's sudden capabilities. maybe if they had omitted the silly (but still hilarious) shower fight scene, we could have gotten more of anna's back story instead. i do feel like based on the pace that anna's story is progressing, we know too little of her life in spain.
stedens
October 23, 2016 at 1:17 PM
i don't actually find it that sudden. for the first few episodes, our information on anna just comes from small glimpses into her past and little things she does. other than that, many people just saw her the way she was described by the people in the drama. she's fragile, weak, has social phobias. most of us believed it, and many people wrote her off as the boring damsel in distress. now the drama is starting to show us who she really is, the small moments and memories we got of her in the past episodes are starting to come together as we start to see more than what the people in the drama portrayed her as. kind of interesting because it's the opposite of how we came to know yoo jin (a person whose motivations, past, and thoughts we've been spoonfed since the beginning of the drama) and maybe that's why some see yoo jin as the more interesting character.
different opinions tho lol
44 Adal
October 9, 2016 at 11:44 PM
Maybe Anna never had social phobia and they made that up as an excuse to keep her secluded. Or maybe she does, but it isn't as bad as they make it out to be and only comes out when she has bright lights or cameras flashing in her face. Something similar to the condition the lead actor in Lucky Romance had. They have a vested reason to keep her secluded from the world, after all.
Anna knew she had allergies to strawberries but thought her father was asking her to eat them and die because now, she has irrefutable proof that her father would never try to see her. In that scenario, it isn't far fetched to seek out a little human contact by talking to Jeha before she passes on.
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45 Livii
October 9, 2016 at 11:54 PM
Really liked Anna in this ep. She's really observant n finally took her chance to escape when she got it. She fooled all of jss, showing just how much they have been underestimating her. Yoona also looked really beautiful in the church scene. I was also ok with her n Jehas meeting. As long as she maintains her own agency I'm fine with their relationship. But the writer seems really fond of the savior complex trope in his heroes, which is not my thing.
And yoo jin- she is truly ruthless in how she exacts her revenge. Will jeha accept/be friends with such a person? Her comment about Pres Park making a good deal was really off color, if that's the way you're gonna lure him, it's not gonna work.
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46 tsinita
October 9, 2016 at 11:54 PM
I'm ignoring all the AI stuff and the mega idea of JSS... my brain can not take it without gagging. I'm staying for the JCW (obviously!) and evil step mom. As this is my first drama with Yoona in it, I am giving her a chance to do her best. I try not to read the bad comments about her because i want to see her as she is in this drama and not what she has in the past.
Yong-pal was a disaster. I was so invested in it then as the story developed i dropped it. I hope JCW can keep me afloat until the end.
Cheers to everyone who's enjoying this drama!
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Rigby
October 10, 2016 at 1:39 AM
+ 1000000000
Let us keep all the positivity!
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DoubleFault
October 10, 2016 at 9:45 AM
Thanks. I think I'm enjoying this drama more than I should've as this is the first one that I am watching with my brother, who is in his mid-20s and not into k-dramas. But action + political thriller + his fave girl group member in one drama = perfect equation to lure my brother in. I'm really happy that Yoona is delivering so far as Anna. The Amazing Grace scene was beautifully executed.
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Eman Resu
October 10, 2016 at 1:12 PM
"action + political thriller + his fave girl group member in one drama = perfect equation to lure my brother in"
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I like this equation. ;)
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47 Dada
October 10, 2016 at 12:11 AM
I think Anna's social phobia is really because she thought she was the reason her mom died. But when she remembered the truth and confronted Joo Yin about it, it was like she became free. I find that the song Amazing Grace is kind of showing that before she was lost, but now she is found. It is her song and she is really reemerging from the world. I don't believe what the 2 girls taking care of her narrated to Je Ha when Je Ha first came in the VIP house. I think she has always wanted someone to talk to, it's just that they have left her alone all this time. The moments whenever she's alone once she's back in Korea, she seems really fine. Even in Spain, she wasn't afraid of reaching out to Je Ha for help. I think the 2 girls just misjudged her - they are not good in doing their jobs anyways.
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48 Rosepetal
October 10, 2016 at 12:22 AM
I seriously need that Mirror AI installed in my house. It could definitely help with my biology exam coming up...
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nchoe
October 10, 2016 at 12:42 AM
No you don't really need that. Google scholar will do.
I'm more interested in that cool wall though. It's gonna be awesome to have it installed in my house.
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Dean
October 10, 2016 at 1:00 AM
I agree. I want that wall in my house!!
I thought it was just a pattern, which was already nice by itself, but it was awesome that it lit up!!
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49 Insomnia
October 10, 2016 at 12:40 AM
I loved yong pal no matter what anyone says.
& the second half even more because of the whole crocodile queen sequence...that was badass.
I find the girls similar here, they were both secluded, held against their own will, both have their night in shinning armour & are both fighting to be free.
If k2 goes the same route where Anna actually brings her her bad side like she's not all that innocent & goes all revenge crazy I'll be soooo glad.
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 1:10 AM
I liked Yong Pal for her Queen of Crocodile, but the more i see K2, I found more similarities between Han Yeo Jin and Choi Yoo Jin. Im not sure how the writer will write for Anna but I dont think the writer will go to the same path like Han Yeo Jin. Anna probably will be written to get the revenge but the revenge game is not too strong.
Anyway just wait and see whether our prediction will be right.
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 1:19 AM
Han Yeo Jin in Yong Pal is different from Anna. HJY was exposed a lot in the fights even before she was put to sleep, she knew many things on the corporate side, and all things about power. Her father even made her as a successor, not because she is his daughter but she is smart, know how to make a move, unlike her brother. That's why she can go all the way for her revenge.
Anna is different, she is still pure and naive on how world works. At the of 19, after 10 years living in isolation, I don't think she can go all the way for her revenge. Even with the help and supports, the best thing she could get is the world knows her existence, and she is the key for the downfall of Yoo Jin and her father, I just hope they dont go to the route that Anna being used and manipulated by the enemies like Representative Park although I do have a feeling it will be like that.
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Livii
October 10, 2016 at 6:25 AM
Yes, I loved the second half because of Croc Queen Yeo Jin aswell! And ditto on the similarities, its like she has been split into Yoo Jin & Anna here.
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50 Liyah
October 10, 2016 at 12:44 AM
Perhaps J4 Mi Ran didn't use to be like this. Maybe because of the years she spent "babysitting," her skills have dulled.
Also, I think it's not that Anna suddenly developed some spy skills. I like to think that she was just being resourceful. She's relying on her instinct. She didn't have the sharp and calculating look like Je Ha. But you can clearly see the determination in her eyes. I think that's what fueled her actions throughout the episode. And in the end, before she ate the strawberry ice cream, you could see the disillusionment in her eyes. And finally, the acceptance.
I can see that Yoona is not yet on the same level as Ji Chang Wook and Song Yun-ah when in comes to acting. But I think she's doing a pretty good job with the little scenes we have seen so far.
By the way, I wondered how the ice cream managed to not melt completely with JCW holding it. LOL! Someone commented in the previous recap how JCW is so good at establishing chemistry with everyone. He can probably act with a wall and still have chemistry with it.
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Sera The Ms Temper
October 10, 2016 at 1:27 AM
Song Yoon Ah is way too amazing, because of her experience in acting and she is veteran.
Yoona is doing a good job comparing to her past works. She is trying her best and so far she is doing great. I think no one expected her to do Daesang worthy acting , so what she is doing now is good. I sometimes have a love-hate relationship with JCW's acting, sometime I love him is some aspects, sometimes I don't.
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Liyah
October 10, 2016 at 3:31 AM
Yup. Yoona has improved. It is a little unfair to compare her acting with a veteran like Yoon Ah.
Perhaps your feelings about JCW's acting also have something to do with the material. I kinda feel the same sometimes. But I just ignore it because it's JCW.
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stedens
October 23, 2016 at 1:28 PM
lol yeah, comparing the acting of yoona to SYA, who has many years of acting experience over yoona, is just unfair. for all we know, SYA could've been around the same level as yoona when she was in her twenties.
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