W–Two Worlds: Episode 6
by girlfriday
I feel like I’m still recovering from yesterday’s episode. The show seems like it’s recovering too, because we’re a little lighter on the nonstop thriller-suspense-WTF-OMG today, and we spend a little time focusing on our heroine and her relationships. It’s time for a cold hard dose of reality in her life, which is often the hardest thing for a fangirl to embrace. But (sadly) real life is not a manhwa, and there are life-and-death consequences to be faced when her hero seemingly goes rogue.
EPISODE 6 RECAP
A gun goes off in Dad’s workshop, and outside, Su-bong immediately falls to the ground, convinced that he’s been shot. He hasn’t, of course, but inside Dad slumps to the floor with a big gaping wound in his chest, and Kang Chul looks down at him, eerily calm about the whole thing. But! You just shot your creator!
Su-bong’s jaw hits the ground when the manhwa hero he’s been drawing scenery for just walks out the front door holding a gun. Kang Chul pauses and says that if he calls emergency now, Dad might live. That’s it, and he walks away.
Yeon-joo can’t handle being trapped in the slowest cab in all of Seoul and gets out to run the rest of the way. She’s terrified because the last thing she heard was the sound of the gunshot, and by the time she reaches the front gate, it’s pouring rain and the place is surrounded by cops and paramedics.
She runs inside where Su-bong is wailing, his shirt covered in Dad’s blood. The paramedics are working on moving Dad’s body, and he looks alive… barely. Yeon-joo rushes to his side, screaming, “Dad! Daaad!” eyes filled with terror. Mom gets the call from Su-bong, and goes numb from the shock.
In the ambulance, Yeon-joo takes over CPR when Dad’s pulse starts to drop, and she pleads with him to hang on and not be scared. They arrive at her hospital, where she barely holds it together as she updates Professor Crazy Dog, her hands still pressed on Dad’s heart.
She enters the operating room, and Crazy Dog is actually nice for once, kicking her out for her own good. He insists that it’s because he can’t handle the pressure of her watching, but Yeon-joo’s on the verge of tears the whole time, and as soon as she exits, she breaks down in sobs.
Su-bong comes up and says in a shaky voice that it was Kang Chul—Su-bong saw him in the flesh with his own two eyes. Yeon-joo’s hand closes up into a fist and she asks if anyone saw where Kang Chul went. Oh no, are you enemies now? Say it ain’t so!
Su-bong says that her father was right, and that he had a reason for wanting to kill Kang Chul all this time—he must’ve known this would happen. He asks why Yeon-joo saved Chul, sighing that if she’d only not saved him, this wouldn’t have happened. “He’s just a manhwa character,” Su-bong argues.
Mom arrives and holds Yeon-joo’s hand, and in the operating room, Crazy Dog takes out the bullet and says it’s a good thing it stayed intact. He puts it in the pan, and it’s a real bullet—no cartoon fakes here.
Down in the lobby of the hospital, Kang Chul walks up to the front desk and leaves a letter for Yeon-joo, asking for it to be delivered to her. He says nothing else, and heads back out into the rain.
The next morning, news breaks of Dad’s shooting. He’s still alive, but still hasn’t regained consciousness. Dad’s editors at the publishing house see the news and wonder if they should call Yeon-joo, because something is going on with the webtoon—they stare at the screen and say it’s strange.
Yeon-joo sits by Dad’s bedside and clutches his hand, unable to hold back her tears. Seok-bum comes by and urges her to get some sleep, and promises to stay here next to Dad. You’re a good friend.
Yeon-joo gets a call from Dad’s publisher, who hesitates to bother her with the webtoon at a time like this. But he says it’s odd that he received a new issue in the middle of the night, when it couldn’t have been Dad who sent it. Wait, the manwha is still going? Does that mean Kang Chul got back to his world??
The publisher says it looks like her father’s artwork though, and he wonders if maybe Dad had finished the issue beforehand and scheduled it to send. He says the content is odd too, so he wanted to double check with her before putting it up online.
Yeon-joo asks if she can see it first, and hesitates before opening the email from the publisher. When she finally clicks, she finds the newest episode called “Kang Chul’s Awakening.”
The issue details Kang Chul’s moment of self-awareness when he discovers that he’s a manhwa hero, and his journey across universes into the real world, where he found Yeon-joo in the hospital and shot his creator. Whaaat. The story continued in her world? This is turning my brain into mushy goo.
In flashback, we see that the night of Dad’s shooting, Kang Chul wandered the streets aimlessly, still holding the gun in his hand. He eventually dropped it on a pile of trash, and that gave him pause—it’s what his family’s killer did in the manhwa, and he winced to realize he’d become the same.
He kept wandering as the rain came down, and he stopped in front of a poster for W, calling him “this generation’s guardian of justice,” wondering if he’d finally catch his family’s killer. It was as if the words were mocking him.
Chul stepped inside a convenience store to buy a pen and paper, and sat down to write Yeon-joo a letter. As he writes her name on the envelope, the image turns into the webtoon frame that Yeon-joo is staring at in her office.
And then on cue, the nurse walks in and hands her that very letter. Yeon-joo stares at the matching envelopes in hand and on her screen, and then tears it open to read. The whole thing isn’t visible, but in the latter half he writes, “And thank you. Now I can leave knowing the truth about my life. To a hero who turned into a murderer while looking for a murderer, there isn’t a more fitting ending than this, is there? So… goodbye…”
Alarmed, she goes back to the webtoon and scrolls past the letter, and the next frame shocks her—it’s Hangang Bridge, where Dad made Kang Chul jump the first time.
The image fades into the flashback from the night before, as Kang Chul stood on the ledge of the bridge in the pouring rain.
His smile was bittersweet, and then he let go, his body falling in slow motion to the river down below. He sank to the bottom, and the screen fades back into the webtoon on Yeon-joo’s screen. She quickly scrolls down, and the next image shows him drowning… with “The End” stamped down in the corner. Nooooooo!
She gasps and runs to the bridge, terrified, but it’s morning now and there’s no sign of Kang Chul. She crouches to the ground in defeat and lets the tears come.
Yeon-joo’s mom sits by Dad’s bedside spilling tears of her own, when suddenly Dad opens his eyes. Oh thank goodness.
At the same time, Yeon-joo and Su-bong speak with the detective on Dad’s case, who tells them that there are a lot of anomalies that he can’t account for. The CCTV in front of Dad’s house didn’t capture anyone going in or out, and they can’t locate the gun, or even the bullet that the surgeon pulled out of Dad’s chest.
While he says this, we see the gun in question turn into a manhwa drawing and disappear, and the same thing happens to the bullet. What.
Yeon-joo and Su-bong give each other the side-eye and keep their mouths shut, and they go to see Dad in the hospital. They tell him that Kang Chul committed suicide on the bridge and that it became the manhwa’s ending, and the publisher is waiting for their approval to upload the last issue.
Su-bong says that he and Yeon-joo have worked out the best possible cover story for Dad’s shooting and the manhwa’s ending, and the next thing we know, the webtoon goes online and the news broadcasts a story about W creator Oh Sung-moo’s suicide attempt, brought about by severe stress and depression over the series ending.
Naturally the manhwa’s ending has the public in an uproar, and fans are beyond upset at the story’s bleak finale and lack of closure for Kang Chul. Crazy Dog is so deflated that he forces Seok-bum to drink with him that night.
A month later, Dad’s workshop is all packed away and cleaned out of anything having to do with W. Yeon-joo puts everything in boxes and then goes to meet with Dad’s publisher, and tells him that Dad hates hospitals so much that they’ve moved him back home and she’s staying there to take care of him.
The publisher says that there are still protests being held by loyal fans, asking to bring Kang Chul back from the dead. The director of the movie adaptation is sitting next to him and sighs that no one will want to see a movie about a hero that dies that way.
They plead with Yeon-joo to ask Dad if he’ll consider bringing Kang Chul back and continuing the series, or even just rewriting the ending. The publisher says it would just take a few frames, but Yeon-joo is firm and says no—Dad is retiring, and he’s been through more stress than they could imagine.
She says it’s not something she could ever ask of him, and makes it clear that Dad’s retirement is final. The publisher turns into a blubbering mess, whining that it’s such a deflating ending to have a hero just die like that without purpose or honor, not even in a cool or emotionally satisfying way.
But Yeon-joo finds herself saying the thing she never thought she’d say: “It’s a manhwa… It’s just a manhwa hero—don’t empathize too much. You’ll forget it soon.” Perhaps she’s saying it more to herself.
Yeon-joo comes home and tells Dad that she made his position clear with the publisher, and he approves. Yeon-joo doesn’t seem so ready to let Kang Chul go, but truthfully, neither does Dad.
Su-bong rushes over with news that the police have found a body in the river that could be Kang Chul, and Yeon-joo is stunned. He rushes her out so they can go identify the body, and Dad watches them go with an inscrutable expression.
Yeon-joo is lost in thought the whole way there, while Su-bong worries about the fact that they can’t exactly identify the body, even if it is Chul. They arrive at the morgue and the police officer says it will be difficult to look at a body that’s been decaying for a month, but Yeon-joo assures them that she’s a doctor and can handle it.
Su-bong can’t though, and pukes as soon as they lift the sheet. Yeon-joo takes a careful look and breathes a sigh of relief when she confirms that it’s definitely not Kang Chul, because this man is wearing a ring.
At the dinner table, Dad probes about where she went with Su-bong today, and Yeon-joo tells him about the body. She wonders why they haven’t been able to find Chul yet, and says with a bit of hope in her voice that he must’ve returned to his manhwa world—that seems fitting since he’s a manhwa character, she thinks. Dad says he doesn’t really know.
She asks, “Dad, when a manhwa says ‘The End,’ what happens after that? Does that world just stop there, or do they live on and we don’t know about it? Fairytales always end that way: ‘And they lived happily ever after.’ But did they really live well until they got old and died, or did it just stop on that last page the moment the fairytale ended?”
Dad reflects on her question and asks if she wants him to bring Kang Chul back from the dead like everyone else, and Yeon-joo quickly says no—he has no reason to do that. Dad says that there’s a reason he can’t do it, and a reason he won’t do it.
He tells her that a week ago, the cops officially closed the case on his shooting and returned his tablet computer, the one that he smashed and left in the motel. They had collected it for evidence, but had no more use for it. Dad admits that when it was returned to him, he wondered if he should bring Kang Chul back. Yeon-joo’s eyes widen.
Dad tells her that he knows Kang Chul better than anyone, and he knows without a doubt that Chul could’ve shot him in the heart and killed him instantly if he’d meant to. Dad decided that since Kang Chul had left him the choice to live, he’d do the same for Chul. In flashback, Dad had turned on his tablet to the closing frame of the webtoon, and began to erase “The End.”
Except it wouldn’t erase. Ohhhhhhh…
Yeon-joo asks why, and Dad says he doesn’t know. He wonders if maybe he and Kang Chul betraying each other severed their ties. Dad says that’s the reason he can’t draw Kang Chul back to life, and the reason he won’t is: Yeon-joo.
Dad: “Do you know why you kept getting pulled into that world?” She doesn’t, but Dad says he figured it out when he saw that Chul left his final letter to her: “You’ve become a main character in the manhwa. You’ve become the heroine. That’s why we have to end it here. Because you’re a real person. And Dad’s daughter. And Mom’s daughter.”
She looks heartbroken, but nods yes. Dad says those are the reasons that W ends here. When she’s alone though, Yeon-joo’s thoughts linger on the idea of “The End,” and what it really means—did Kang Chul ever get a funeral, or is his body still floating in that cold river… forever?
A few weeks later, Dad is on the mend and even goes to New Zealand on holiday with his buddies, and Yeon-joo calls with last-minute instructions for him to take his meds and not drink a drop of alcohol.
When she hangs up with Dad, Crazy Dog suddenly comes into her office and smells her hair. Huh? He notes that she washed it and orders her to come with him to lunch. Well, your nickname is certainly apt, sir.
He takes her to a fancy restaurant, and explains offhandedly that he’s supposed to set his friend up on a blind date today, but the female colleague canceled at the last minute, so Yeon-joo has to be the substitute. He argues that she was the only one in the hospital who’d washed her hair today. LOL.
Yeon-joo curses her clean hair, especially when she so often doesn’t wash it, though she seems to change her mind when she spots a handsome, well-dressed man approaching their table. But he goes in another direction, and ha, She Was Pretty’s Ahn Se-ha comes over to them instead.
Yeon-joo cringes, and Crazy Dog talks up his friend, saying that there’s no such thing as a man who’s tall, good-looking, and smart anyway. Yeon-joo immediately thinks of Kang Chul, of course, and says that they do exist. Crazy Dog: “Who, me?” Pff.
Even funnier is the fact that Ahn Se-ha is playing his She Was Pretty character Poong-ho. His eyes turn to saucers when he sees Yeon-joo, and Crazy Dog misinterprets her incredulous laughter as happiness.
Seok-bum texts Yeon-joo to ask if having washed hair turned out to be lucky or unlucky, and she excuses herself to go to the bathroom and tells him it’s a big ol’ fail. Yeon-joo decides that she’s been ignoring her love life too much lately, and that it’s time to meet new guys, a new one every week, she decides.
Suddenly the line goes dead on both sides, and Seok-bum and Yeon-joo check their phones thinking that the reception cut out. But as Yeon-joo looks around her, she’s immersed in water, which rises rapidly up to her chin, all the way up until she’s completely submerged. Aaaaaaah, is it the Han River?! It came to her?! This is crazy and cool.
At first she tries swimming up, but then she looks around and spots him in the distance: It’s Kang Chul, just suspended there like he hasn’t moved in all this time.
She starts swimming towards him, but it’s so, so far. It takes all her strength to get close to him and she reaches out a hand to his, but just before they can touch, he starts to sink further and further away from her. She tries to reach out again, but she’s losing air, and she’s forced to go back up to the surface.
She swims up, and suddenly reappears in the bathroom, sopping wet from head to toe and gasping for air. WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT?
Yeon-joo is completely shaken up after seeing Kang Chul like that, and marches back to the table dripping water everywhere. She asks for a phone (she dropped hers in the river while trying to swim to Kang Chul), and checks the webtoon. Right before her eyes, “The End” disappears from the last frame and gets replaced with “To be continued.” YESSSS!
Without a word of explanation, Yeon-joo walks out on the blind date and runs to Su-bong, who’s now working as an assistant for She Was Pretty’s Hwang Suk-jung, a crazy lady who demands that her manhwa characters get eyes the size of saucers.
Yeon-joo grabs him and says they have to go save Kang Chul, and Su-bong looks at her like she’s got a screw loose. Yeon-joo says they can save him, because time hasn’t passed for Chul—he’s suspended in that moment, where the manhwa ended.
She says he’s still there in the river, and she saw it herself because she was there. Su-bong finally notices that she’s drenched in water and gasps.
They rush back to Dad’s workshop and Su-bong fields a call from the publisher, who says that they didn’t alter the webtoon on their end. The online response is immediate, and people everywhere start to leave comments in anticipation of Kang Chul’s comeback. Dad is still on his flight to New Zealand, so Su-bong says he’ll check in and call the publisher back.
Yeon-joo brings out Dad’s tablet and says it’s been fixed, and she thinks maybe they can use it to save Kang Chul. Su-bong is still shocked and asks if Dad wasn’t the one to change the webtoon, but Yeon-joo reminds him that he’s on a plane, and couldn’t alter it even when he wanted to.
Su-bong, ever the slow one: “So you’re saying that ‘The End’ changed to ‘To be continued,’ all by itself? Why?!” Yeon-joo looks at him wide-eyed: “I don’t know!”
He can’t understand it, especially when it’s not like they tried to kill him off for no reason like before. The hero killed himself, and it ended… so why isn’t it ending, he asks. Yeon-joo thinks on it and says, “He must’ve found a new reason that it couldn’t end.” Su-bong asks what, but Yeon-joo doesn’t know.
At the same time, two bicyclists come upon a hooded figure standing on the ledge of a bridge. Whoa, it’s the killer from Kang Chul’s world! But… is this Yeon-joo’s world? How did he get here?
The bicyclists call out to him and say that it’s dangerous, and suddenly the hooded figure turns on them and swoops down to attack them. As he flies down toward them, we see his face flash—it’s made up of pixels that spark in and out, the way the webtoon frame did when Kang Chul stepped through into this world. What… are you?
Back at the workshop, Su-bong still doesn’t understand why they’re supposed to save Kang Chul when the manhwa ended, and Yeon-joo yells that Chul can’t save himself, and doesn’t have the will to live, which means that they have to save him.
She says that no time has passed in the manhwa, which means they can draw a boat with divers passing by, and they can save Chul in the very next frame. Su-bong is aghast when he realizes that she means for him to draw this, and he cries that W is her father’s work, not his—there might be a miniscule difference in the artwork, but it will be noticeable.
Yeon-joo shouts that Dad won’t do it, because he’s afraid that she’ll get sucked back into the manhwa world. Su-bong runs with that, pointing out her wet hair. But… isn’t that proof that she has no control over that anyway?
She knows he’s right—that Kang Chul shot Dad, that it’s going to be hard for him to be forgiven, that this cursed manhwa ought to end, and that she can’t keep getting sucked into that world. She knows all that, but she says that Dad is alive and well, and they’re all going on as if nothing happened, and people will move past it because it’s just a manhwa character.
“But Kang Chul is in that cold river, feeling guilty that he’s become a murderer… for over two months all alone… That’s too much,” she cries. Su-bong softens a little, and Yeon-joo breaks down as she admits that she thinks it’s all because of her. The tears totally work on Su-bong, and he caves and agrees to try. Yeon-joo says that everything started on Dad’s tablet, so it should work to save him now. Su-bong braces himself and picks up the pen…
But hours go by and he gives up in the middle of drawing the rescue boat. The story doesn’t make any sense because there’s no linking narrative, and he says this is outside his capabilities because he’s just the assistant—W isn’t his.
Su-bong suggests waiting for Dad to land in New Zealand and breaks for a snack, and Yeon-joo hangs her head knowing that Dad will never start drawing this manhwa again. But Su-bong suddenly has a light bulb moment in the kitchen (with a light bulb overhead, heh), and says he heard something once years ago from her father, about W and Yeon-joo…
Cut to: Prison visiting booths, where guards suddenly discover Yeon-joo lying on the ground in her prison jumpsuit, right where she’d disappeared from, the last time she was in Kang Chul’s world.
We rewind to the moment that Chul jumped off the bridge on that rainy night, but this time a rescue boat sees him and divers bring him up to the surface right away. Kang Chul wakes up with a start in his bed, as if it’s all a dream. But his hand still has the scars from his fight with Dad. And he’s back in his world…
And in the prison, Yeon-joo opens her eyes and looks around, and breaks into a huge smile. Awwww yeah, we’re back!
COMMENTS
What did Su-bong tell her?! Gah, these cliffhangers! My guess is still that Yeon-joo will turn out to be Kang Chul’s original creator, at least on a conceptual level. It probably never occurred to her or Dad because she was young at the time, and he was likely inspired by one of her drawings. But maybe if she drew Kang Chul first and then he spun the character into a story worthy of a manhwa series, it’s possible that Yeon-joo really IS the key to Kang Chul’s life, in a way that he never even imagined. I don’t know if that’s where they’re going, but I know I would love it if Yeon-joo had creator-god power over Kang Chul’s world.
Dad made it clear that his ties to the manhwa had already been severed, which he assumed was caused by his and Kang Chul’s mutual betrayal. But now I wonder if the root of that change is something different, and if it has to do with Yeon-joo. Clearly Dad had control over Kang Chul’s story to some extent, but is it really that Chul’s will overcame his own, or does it have to do with what Yeon-joo wanted for the story, and for Kang Chul to get what he wanted? Does he actually have less free will than he thinks? It was so interesting to see that Dad has affection for Chul too, despite only showing abject horror at his rogue creation up until now. But he does have a soft fatherly devotion to the character, and I found that fascinating and realistic. Dad ultimately still can’t be trusted when it comes to Kang Chul, since he would throw Chul under the bus (literally) the second he proved himself dangerous, but I really enjoy the complexity of this character that loves and despises, fears and understands his creation more than anyone.
The more that Yeon-joo starts to take over the storytelling, I keep thinking of W the manhwa as a daddy-daughter bedtime story. Despite the scale of the manhwa, at its basic level W is not that different from a bedtime story Dad tells to his daughter, where he gets to make up all the rules as he invents the story, and she gobbles up the fantasy world with delight. I love that Yeon-joo represents the innocent child—she asks him all the things a child would ask, like what a happily-ever-after really means for the characters in that story world, and whether their lives go on even if the story ends. But the part that’s interesting is that she’s an active participant in the storytelling, like a father saying, “Once upon a time, there was a princess in a pink dress in a castle,” and the daughter goes, “No! A blue dress! In a penthouse!” and Dad goes, “Okay, a blue dress in a fancy penthouse then…” The story is Dad’s, but it’s also the daughter’s, and it’s as if Yeon-joo is changing the story by interjecting to say that she doesn’t like the direction things are going in. And because the story is ultimately hers—he invents it and keeps it going to make her happy—she has that power.
I don’t know what it’ll mean for Yeon-joo now that she’s become, as Dad says, the heroine of Kang Chul’s story—that’s a complication that’ll surely have dire consequences down the line. But there was a distinct shift in this episode to Yeon-joo being the main storyteller who drove Kang Chul’s narrative. Whatever she does at the end of the episode successfully restarts his entire world and brings him back to life, and I’m pretty sure she didn’t sit there and draw all that out. It has to be tied to her will somehow. But then, was she also the one who caused the bathroom to flood and turn into the Han River? Or was Kang Chul calling out to her? Maybe he was about to walk towards the light when he heard her say that she’d be going on a blind date every week?
And how come no one knows that W’s villain is different from the rest of the characters in that world? How come he didn’t freeze like everyone else? Did he cross over into the world via Kang Chul’s portal… or does he have a portal of his own? Ack. Please don’t tell me he can just move freely between worlds—I don’t know if I can handle a faceless assassin just showing up wherever he pleases. Is he human? Is he a glitch? Is he faceless because Dad doesn’t know what he looks like?? Ohmygah, please just draw him a face already—it’s creeping me out that he doesn’t have one! If he looks that way because Dad never bothered to decide his identity or give him a face, my mind is blown. Note to any writers out there: Everyone deserves a face!
I have so many questions about the gun and bullet suddenly disappearing from Yeon-joo’s world, and Kang Chul returning to his world despite dying and being suspended in the river. But I’m sure that stuff will be unraveled soon enough. I have to say, I’m excited for the return to Kang Chul’s universe, because things get wackier over there, and now Yeon-joo will have a whole new set of narrative rules to navigate—whatever power it is that sent her back there. The only downside is less screen time for Yeon-joo’s friends, but I’m hoping we cut back and forth often. Because I can never get enough of Su-bong’s shock-face, probably because it mirrors mine as I watch every episode of this show.
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Tags: Episode 6, featured, Han Hyo-joo, Kim Eui-sung, Lee Jong-seok, Lee Shi-un, W–Two Worlds
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51 sensualasya
August 4, 2016 at 9:28 PM
I am sorry but I have to tell somebody because nobody in my world watches K-dramas. This story has stark similarities to an Indian film called RaOne. Only that was set in the world of computer games. But the narrative handling is much better in this drama, even though that was a film with OTT budget and production value. The hooded figure is....W? Ooooh! Possibilities!
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alasecond
August 5, 2016 at 3:02 AM
Lets just hope it doesn't have the stupid ending of Ra.One..
with that stupid question-answer game..
But i hear you. Infact when they showd the faceless guy.. all i could think of was arjun rampal at that point
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alasecond
August 5, 2016 at 3:03 AM
Which btw is a twisted copy of terminator
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divyrus
August 5, 2016 at 6:29 AM
That movie was a excellent concept but the story went completely off the rails !
I can still taste the disappointment I had when I was watching it in theatre. Being a srk fan, it was so hard to watch all the stupid ways the plot keeps going to.
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52 Jill
August 4, 2016 at 9:29 PM
the plot of this drama is always unpredictable on each episode for me.
talk about the villain, suddenly I remember the shadow of person that appeared on the first episode of nine. who then turns out to be ... *spoilers. yeah you know who it was if you've watched nine.
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53 celine
August 4, 2016 at 9:29 PM
While I still enjoy W and I'm still hooked, there's one scene that I didn't like. The scene in the comfort room when YJ suddenly started to drown out of the blue... what was that about? While I understand that she keeps on being dragged back in the webtoon (still not sure if that scene was in the webtoon though) or finds herself in unusual situations (apparently when she's on the phone), the methods used before made sense or at least had the necessary set-up/environment. However, this was absolutely weird (except for the fact that she's in the comfort room so yeah I guess since there's water?!). I believe it could have been shown better. For example, they could have shown her bathing in a bath tub when suddenly she's pulled downwards or the water rises. It was a WTF moment and not in a good way for me.
I'd like to hear others' thoughts on possible explanations to this scene because at this point I just enjoy reading theories and explanations rather than making them myself because brain can no longer accommodate. lol
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Jill
August 4, 2016 at 9:35 PM
yeah I guess she should be near han-kang to be appeared in the water in han-kang in the manhworld.
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Sancheezy
August 4, 2016 at 10:55 PM
maybe something happens in the other world in that specific time?
she can transfer momentarily since that exact building (she still in the hospital hall as I remember) also existed in the webtoon,
I have no more clue, ep 6 give many half scenes, like the letter (did we know what is written there? or I maybe missed something),
then the plot holes Subong asked Yeon Joo,
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 2:58 AM
Before I read GF's joke in the recap, I also thought it was her trying to move on with her love life that triggered the pull back into the webtoon. Like, "Hey, you're the heroine, how can you move on when the hero is stuck underwater?"
I don't think she has to be in the bathtub for it to make sense. Remember when she was talking to Su-bong over the phone and got dragged back to the fitting room? Kang-chul wasn't in danger then and there was no reason to be in the fitting room other than "The story needs you to be here."
That's actually my theory even in the past episodes. The pattern for her poofing in and out of W is because she's a main character and she needs to be in a certain place at a certain time.
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divyrus
August 5, 2016 at 6:32 AM
@mary
True, just like what KC says - I don't remember why I did something but A was set up for B to happen. She became the main character whose thoughts and actions are now chronicled.
But the water thing was scary for a moment. Like all those horror films - I can't remember the name , but there was a Hollywood one where bathroom gets flooded and ghost travels through pipes and showers?
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 8:23 AM
God, no. I can never take a poop again. :|
(Also, is it Ghostbusters? As in the very old movie? I remember the pink slime everywhere...)
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54 Archer
August 4, 2016 at 9:30 PM
I hope there will be no delay on airing the two episodes next week because of the Olympic. I don't understand why the rating is down for this episode...
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cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 7:46 AM
really? What were the ratings for this episode?
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55 Popdatbubble
August 4, 2016 at 9:35 PM
Am I the only person who was really confused at the ending?! But gah, the cliffhanger! Can't wait for next week!!!
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celine
August 4, 2016 at 9:52 PM
You're not alone. hehe I was like, "What did I just watch??"
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56 pickledplumtree
August 4, 2016 at 9:36 PM
Have you ever seen anyone so happy to wake up in prison?! Loved that last scene!
Aside from the plot, this is a little belated but I was very happy when I saw both Kang Ki Young, acting as Yeon Joo's best surgeon buddy Kang Suk Bum, and Lee Tae Hwan, acting as Chul's bodyguard best buddy Seo Do Yoon, are both in this drama. They've been in several dramas together in the past couple of years. They were in the same crew in Come Back Ahjussi, and were 2/3 of the awesome friend trio with Seo In Guk in in High School King of Savvy. I sort of see them as the ultimate kdrama buddies.
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celine
August 4, 2016 at 9:54 PM
YJ momentarily forgot that she's convicted because of how happy she is to be back in KC's world. I wonder how will the writer twist the story to release her from prison. Seriously, all I do these days is wonder because my brain is too tired to work up theories for this drama. haha
Aww me too. I liked High School King and I love the trio!
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cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 6:52 AM
Hah, that's what me and my friend said too! She's sitting there in a prison uniform grinning at the guards "Hello! I may be back, but that means he's ok! Probably."
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57 loveblossom
August 4, 2016 at 9:36 PM
HAHAHA. I love the screenshot of Su Bong's face at the end!! That is me right now.
SO excited for the next EP. Ready to see Kang Chul's world again. I wonder how will Yeon Joo get out of prison this time so that she won't be a fugitive anymore.
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Chandler
August 4, 2016 at 11:42 PM
This is definitely the week I'll be driven crazy with waiting. Only after seeing W come to such a horrifying stop do I fully feel the desire to be stuck inside it's pages again. I can't wait for next week, not just for the fun, but because my heart is fully invested now.
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58 echo
August 4, 2016 at 9:37 PM
I have just one word for this show Whoa! holy guacamole!!!! Love you show I love you!! Okay, so maybe that was more than one word but I mean come on this drama is awesome!!! Every episode just blows my mind
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59 Moose
August 4, 2016 at 9:37 PM
I think KC calls out to her intuitively to save him when there is trouble. She is the key to his life. Everytime she has crossed over he has been close to trouble or death..
The manhwa world characters seem to have been developing free agency alongside KC. I found SH particularly interesting in ep 4. There was seemingly no director but she sat down, thought and executed a plan to expose/get rid of YJ. Her rationale was quite complex a mixture of jealousy concern etc.
Same for faceless hoodie. He's probably developed over time. Noticed he doesn't kill off KC at their two confrontations we saw. I think he's the glitch in the manhwa necessary to keep KC motivated.
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60 theravennest
August 4, 2016 at 9:41 PM
That moment when Kang Chul looked up from the concept art notebook, into the mirror, and realised exactly how he got his face…
The fact that with just one idea change or even by flight of fancy he could’ve looked completely different. Literally his entire existence rests in the hands of others.
God, that moment was so horrifying and heartbreaking. Superb.
What an amazing trifecta of storytelling, acting, and directing that managed to beautifully convey such a complex and tragic character beat.
I love how wonderfully complex they’ve made Kang Chul despite how easy it would’ve been for him to be flat, considering he’s technically a manhwa character. lol He’s fun and charming, yes, but he has a sliver of pain and cruelty that can leak out if he lets it.
People are a bit angry over Kang Chul’s darkness (shooting Yeon Joo and her father) but in my opinion that darkness and that rage are what elevate his character out of his trope-y manhwa existence and into “real life.”
I feel like people are expecting the hero his manhwa profile outlines but in actuality the very nature of the drama’s story requires that he buck that hero label.
Usually hero stories involve good people struggling to do what’s right while resisting the urge to do evil. For anti-hero stories, people are doing bad for good reasons or doing good for selfish reasons and sometimes they even end up on a redemption arc. Kang Chul is far closer to the anti-hero side of things. Especially the selfishness aspect. His need to distinguish himself from the page regardless of what that means for others (those locked in stasis in the manhwa, Daddy Douche’s life, etc.) is at the heart of his journey to existence.
Kang Chul is in a “meta state,” shall we say. He is fighting for his right to exist, for free will and autonomy, outside of the page. That means rejecting what has been preordained by his creators, Daddy Douche and Yeon Joo as it turns out. Yet, because he was originally written to be a tragic but good and perfect hero trope, breaking free of those controlling him means doing unexpectedly cold and cruel things…for now. In addition, he’s also struggling to reject the label of “monster” that Daddy Douche has given him now that Kang Chul is sentient.
It’s easy to see how negative the dad’s creative control is but I think Yeon Joo’s, while kinder, is just as detrimental on an existential level as it means Kang Chul still has not achieved real autonomy.
Ultimately, I think Kang Chul taking control of his own narrative and becoming truly real means breaking free of both Daddy Douche and Yeon Joo.
It’ll be interesting to see where they take Kang Chul during his journey. Can he break free from his creators? How? Will he find a middle ground between acquiescence to the kindness his manhwa profile says he is to have and the cruelty his existential rage awakens within him?
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Moondust
August 4, 2016 at 10:07 PM
While it was not right for Kang Chul to shoot Yeon Joo's father - I completely agree that it was really important for him. It really shows him trying to rebel and break away from that "set up" the father gave him. He does not want to be some one's puppet creation anymore.
I am really curious to see where this will take him in future characterization.
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cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 11:16 PM
It wasn't right--but I still wanted him to shoot so bad, it scared me. I wanted him to prove his autonomy (and Dad deserved it so dang much) but I also didn't want him to commit murder.
It was kind of like wanting Lawyer Jung not to have any consequences in IRY, if you've seen it. I've never rooted for a killer before, but that show almost made me want to, just so the bromance could live on.
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Sancheezy
August 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM
what I really like about the shot is that it happen once,
many cases of defence shooting can be disqualified if the victim shoots more than once since the 1st can be considered their instant reaction,
in related to kang chul, it means that he didn't fully mean to kill the dad, it's his reaction because the dad provokes him so bad, he could have shot the 2nd bullet or shot su bong,
his scene implied that he is angry and he knew he did wrong,
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Alessar
August 5, 2016 at 8:27 AM
There's a legal term, "fighting words" and it refers to something said that so infuriates you that it's reasonable you might lose control. Telling someone they are essentially a puppet without will and unable to do X would absolutely be fighting words in mind. He had to shoot the guy to prove he was a real person to himself. But of course, he can then have regret and guilt. Doing it once - yes, that shows it was just a momentary snap.
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61 Jill
August 4, 2016 at 9:42 PM
maybeee, even though Dad don't know who the hooded man is, but still he is the character that being created an live in the manhwa world despite of he don't have face or identity. and maybeeee the hooded man character then developed on his own
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62 purpleowl
August 4, 2016 at 9:51 PM
115 comments and I've watched 40 minutes. This will be my spot. (Am I allowed to say that?)
I'm freaking out!!!
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purpleowl
August 4, 2016 at 10:00 PM
145 comments, I can't read.
I've always wanted to say Han Bridge is probably my favorite thing about Kdramas. I don't know about other bridges and bridges in other places. I know there's call boxes but the inspiration phrases is amazing. As someone who has had suicidal ideation since I was 3, I appreciate the attempt to help. After this episode I'm going to search for other bridges and high risk zones that do that.
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purpleowl
August 4, 2016 at 10:04 PM
1) So turns out, I didn't want Dad to die. It's easier to choose when you know there's another episode. *he might be back in my good graces and be back to Appa. Idk, I'm fickle*
2) I'm mad at Kang Chul though. Don't leave me.
3) Dude! That moment with the webtoon and note being delivered at the same time! I stopped breathing. What if you could see key events right before they happened?!
4) Covering it up as a double suicide was clever. Can you get any more star crossed than pseudo creator & creation? The bullet and gun disappearing was amazing! I thought the wound would too but no.
5) Lee Shi Un continues to be the most uplifting part of this show.
6) I still feel like Yeon Joo's mom is going to be important to Chul's life.
7) Yeon Joo was adorably childlike when she asked about the books ending and what happens to the characters. And she mimicked most of us.
I had more but I still have 20 minutes to watch. I'll watch more, read the recap, react to that, and give my theories. I like that I have a system now.
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purpleowl
August 4, 2016 at 11:46 PM
8) omo, when she was suddenly in the water! So semi- officially it is being on the phone that is the trigger?
9) was is being told she was the creator that sent her back to the manhwa, Main Character style? Or did they draw her in to play the KC bridge scene?
10) I was so proud of myself for reading 끝 that it took me a moment to realize why I could read it. I know the end but not to be continued. Bittersweet.
11) The faceless culprit looked amazing. And flew at the bystanders in an uncontrolled way. Possessed much? *anyone else got reminded of Electro by Mr. Faceless?* (Batman, Spiderman, what's next Purple?)
Well, that'd all I thought while I watched. Time to read the recap.
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cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 9:39 AM
I thought (7) was cute too--and then it got all twisty on me and I wondered what happens to my characters when I stop writing. Does they're world end? What if I drop the project? So now I feel super motivated to write again.
on (8), I feel like the phone ought to have something to do with it--phones were a fairly big deal in QIHM too, and if makes me want to re-watch Nine and see if they are there too. It would be trippy if they were all somehow connected.
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purpleowl
August 5, 2016 at 12:32 AM
Reading the recap
1) forgot about the rain. I thought I just kept raining but then I realized the rain YJ is caught in going to the house is the same rain Chul was walking in after shooting Dad.
2) I get why YJ took over in the ambulance. EMT are out-ranked by doctors. But I'm glad she wasn't allowed to operate on her dad. I don't know if it's legal in Korea. I don't know if it's illegal in the USA. But operating on family seems like it should be. In Doctors they've made it seem perfectly acceptable to operate on family.
3) My one issue with Su Bong was when he made it seem like Yeon Joo was to blame for things getting this far. In the abstract, yes. But so not what she needs to hear right now.
4) These types of dramas always show the bullet but it felt different here for some reason. Then that twist!!!
5) I know this isn't the time but LJS looks good in his "killing" suit
6) Seok Bum is climbing up my favorite list
7) I forgot about the manhwa being censored and sent by some other personage. Who?! Why?! W dudumdum
8) Covering up the murder attempt was necessary and they did it well. But is it possible to shot oneself where Dad was shot? Why isn't anyone in Yeolworld calling that out?
9) So now that Chul may be okay, is the story going to include the truth about the two worlds? How will they paint it as two failed suicide attempts when the public knows one wasn't actually written? Or is the heavy censoring back on?
10) The moment Chul dropped the gun was well directed and acted. I felt the despair down to my bones.
11) I thought Chul spent all his money reading the volumes. Maybe that was an exaggeration or he stole that pen and paper. Which wouldn't be the worst thing he did that night.
12) Again, not the time buy that sad smile before he falls was perfect *and annoyingly cute, it's supposed to be sad!*
13) *am I terrible person?* I thought it would be so funny if the drama stopped there when OYJ was at the bridge. The End for us and confusion for 5 weeks. That would be great. Not on this drama because I'd be mad. But imagine if it was planned from the beginning and the whole team was in on it. They were paid to act like they would be busy for months but really the drama would stop less than halfway through. A planned ending, not a cut. That would be fresh and the response would be intriguing and possibly creative.
14) Meta aside, I don't understand the reaction to Kang Chul's death. A #savekangchul petition would be fine. If the writer didn't attempt suicide too! But maybe that just me. I couldn't sign it. I'd be afraid of him reworking or "fixing" the story and then committing another attempt. What if he accomplished it this time? "I got my ending but the writer died." No thank you!
Anyway, I have to sleep. I'll be back to finish the recap and then participate in the fun. Throwing out a guess: 475-700 comments when I get up in 6 hours or when I settle at work in 7 hours. Time...
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Sancheezy
August 5, 2016 at 3:03 AM
Have a nice sleep then,
it's really fun to read your reaction
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cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 9:43 AM
I totally agree on 2, 5, 10 and 12. And 14--I was worried he'd have another breakdown and kill more webtoon people. I still don't know if I want him to get some kind of consequences for stabbing Chul. I guess KC shot him, so they're kinda sorta even. In a weird way.
As for 13, I would laugh so hard if they did that. And get mad. Here's how I'd hope it went: regular episodes til now, stopped for five weeks... and then pick it back up again. I have no idea how people would react or even if they'd fall for it, but it's an interesting idea.
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63 Oshi
August 4, 2016 at 9:52 PM
Most important note! NO ONE GOT SICK FROM THE FRIGGIN RAIN! WHAT IS THIIIS???
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deathbychocolate
August 4, 2016 at 10:11 PM
Reality speaking, diseases such as cold (which commonly follows after soaked under the rain) are caused by bacteria, viruses, etc. So technically, being under the rain doesn't get one sick. The show is being... uhmmm.. realistic?
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Chandler
August 4, 2016 at 11:45 PM
It's remarkable, isn't it? How this drama still manages to find ways to be more realistic than others is beyond me...
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privatebanker
August 4, 2016 at 11:31 PM
IKR!!! Well... there's no such a logic in kdramaland ?
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64 JS'seyes
August 4, 2016 at 9:52 PM
Crazy! This drama is crazy and the brilliant writer has turned crazy!
After throwing us a gripping, dark toned episode 5, today we face 30 minutes of tragic and bleak... and then all of a sudden a dose of horror??! We were then given few minutes where you get a glimpse of hope and the trailer shows next week it's gonna be SWEET! Why do I suddenly feel that yeah, we are in a real toon... there is just no rules of how this drama will go.
Mr Hooded Man... ok, we are getting DC now. Feels like he is a villian with supernatural powers. Will Chul transform into a black-suited Spiderman? Squeeee!!!!
And Chul, poor Chul... you come closest to Nam Soon this episode. And that is saying a lot. Nam Soon is by far this poor fangirl's most favourite character of the one playing you. Who the hell left you in that water for so long???!! ohh.... it's writer-nim.
Btw I think Yeon Joo's mama has a greater role yet to be revealed. Is she the culprit behind the evil in this story?
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JS'seyes
August 4, 2016 at 10:44 PM
I'm not really into trying to find answers before they are due. I prefer to let the story take me to where it's to be. But, after having the thought that mom has a bigger role, a possibility just refuse to go away from the mind. Maybe, this is what happened...
Years ago, Dad was an unsuccessful comic artist. Mom was not happy about it (an earlier episode mentioned this). She probably thought that he should be doing something else to bring back more dough and blamed his interest. Her disatisfaction with him made her temper his comic. She drew the scene of Kang Chul's family massacre to end it so he could focus on real life. Dad found out too late to stop the publication and their relationship became even worse and mom walked out with YJ. The divorce devastated dad and he decided to end Kang Chul's life by making him commit suicide. YJ, who loves the comic, was so sad to hear Dad's killing the character and she cried a river. Yeah, somehow her tears or emotions saved KC and we have the turning point of the comic W. But it does not end here since the murderer mom drew is still out there. Or who knows, therefore, mom is really Mr Hooded Man. And Dad knows. That's why he refused to tell KC who the murderer is. It's the Mrs!
Tada.
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faith
August 4, 2016 at 11:14 PM
waw!! everyone in the family has the same drawing talent?
isnt it too makjang? lol..
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Moondust
August 5, 2016 at 12:12 AM
I don't think it's too makjang. I have friends and have met several people that their family is based in the arts. It would make sense if the Yeon Joo's mother and father met in an art university (or something like that) and that was one of their common interests :)
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JS'syes
August 11, 2016 at 1:42 AM
You may want to google the word 'Makjang'. Incidentally there was an article on what really is makjang somewhere here in DB.
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65 mianmian
August 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM
Haha subongs face in those screencaps. Love!
Did anyone else get the meta of all those netizens commenting the minute "The End" became "to be continued"? All the comments must be things the actual author heard in response to their work. I'm sure any author can appreciate the realism of netizens immediately commenting and critiquing and getting caught up in making characters "real" in their own lives.
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 3:13 AM
I laughed at that too
"Writer-nim, I hated you before, but now I'm sorry"
"Writer-nim, I always trusted you even when others hating on you"
HAHAHAAHA the writer is poking fun at us and fandoms in general but I don't mind XD
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66 tac
August 4, 2016 at 10:02 PM
Think that Yeon-joo has to be on the phone to be sucked into W world. The first time is because she was pulled in by Kang Chul, second is when she was on the phone with her dad, third is with Su-bong and last with Seok-bum. Hasn't been this excited in a drama for a long time, can't wait for the next episode.
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67 celine
August 4, 2016 at 10:11 PM
Can Dad and KC work together and go after that hooded figure?! I cannot wait for Soo Bong to meet the hooded figure because he gives the best reactions and he is such a nervous wreck that I enjoy him panic in adorable ways. hehe!
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68 Aya
August 4, 2016 at 10:12 PM
Can't utter any words other than,
These days i’m so stressed because of W!!!
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69 Ren
August 4, 2016 at 10:22 PM
I have so many questions running through my head in this show. How can Yeon-joo reconcile being in love with someone who shot her and nearly killed her Dad? Also an it really be called love if it turns out that she created him? I mean then isn't he simply a projection of her own desires?
More importantly, between this and Uncontrollably Fond, apparently girls just don't shower or wash their hair ever in Korea and they still look completely fine. Life is so unfair.
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70 Kat
August 4, 2016 at 10:27 PM
So, I was thinking about possible endings for W since I don't like the idea of YJ becoming the author of the comic and drawing herself in there so she and KC are together but not really.
I'm not up for that type of bittersweet ending LOL.
What if their two worlds collided and became one? I have no idea how that would happen but I don't think I can bear to see them apart in the end. I'm already attached ;______;
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soapbox
August 4, 2016 at 10:40 PM
At least that's one of the sweeter theories people have come up with. I read another theory from dcgall earlier today about 'the dead body with a ring' from episode 6 and it freaked me out lol. [PREVIEW SPOILER]
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 3:17 AM
@Kat, I'm hoping for that kind of end too. Like the two worlds just mash together.
I don't wanna lose any of Kang-chul's friends or Yeon-joo's friends! I'd much rather have both places combining, even if it means scum like ASSemblyman Han crosses over to our world. :(
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cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 11:21 PM
Omo! And think of the side ships the meshed worlds could spur on! The bodyguard and one of the assistant ladies, Su-bong and... So-hee? Hm... I'll have to think about that one for a bit longer (dunno if I like her enough for Su-bong).
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71 siesta
August 4, 2016 at 10:29 PM
let's hear some love for professor Crazy Dog coz that man is friggin' hilarious!
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celine
August 5, 2016 at 12:18 AM
Love Prof. Park to bits especially when his fanboy self surfaces. That scene when he read the ending and he wanted to go for a drink lmao that face!
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 3:18 AM
He was kinda hot taking charge with Dad's surgery...
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kw02
August 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM
Yes =) When YJ was distressed and worried sick about dad, Prof. Park was so calm and in control before the emergency operation. If only Prof. Park treats YJ better...
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72 Sunflowerdiva
August 4, 2016 at 10:35 PM
Holy-moly, comments for W just pile up! I haven't watched this ep yet but will do so tomorrow. But by then I feel like all the real-time conversing is going to be over... Still, can't wait to watch, then read the recap, then read all the comments. Staying away from any spoilers now, so have a good night, beanies! I shall bookmark this comment and come back later. :)
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73 siesta
August 4, 2016 at 10:45 PM
if the rules are still the same and the manhwa chapters end according to KC's emotions, imagine how frustrating it is to be lovers if she disappears every time things get *ahem* heated up? xD not to mention the very public disclose afterwards lol i do not envy them
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 3:22 AM
LMAO so awkward!
"Chul-ah, calm down, okay? I'm gonna kiss you. Don't be surprised."
I guess that's why they gave him pulse control.
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michykdrama
August 5, 2016 at 3:40 AM
Haha! one more great reason for pulse control XD
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cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Lol that made me laugh. Thank goodness he has Olympian pulse control. But what about her? I mean, he's capable of some pretty swoon-worthy kisses.
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74 panshel
August 4, 2016 at 10:51 PM
I am dying to know what Su Bong told her. If he knows the W secret, can he punch his ticket to the manhwa as well, since we know he would obviously love that and it would be endlessly entertaining for us to watch? I cracked up at Hwang Suk Jung's eyes the size of cookies obsession. Manhwa girls always have the biggest eyes.
I honestly didn't see any way how Yeon Joo could forgive Kang Chul for almost killing her father, but Dad's explanation makes perfect sense. An Olympic gold medalist would never have missed had he intended to kill him, so he meant to spare his life. On the flip side, this got Dad to quit drinking, so he was actually helping him. Though I can't believe they went with suicide for their cover story because what a burden on Dad for everyone to believe he tried to kill himself.
Thanks a bunch for the recap, girlfriday!
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75 Greenhazel
August 4, 2016 at 10:56 PM
This is the story for all the abusing writer that write just whatever to continue their story without context or explanation or either the property link and reason.. Be careful.. You can be shot by the character you made!! Hahaha..
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76 alasecond
August 4, 2016 at 11:00 PM
Imagine, if this were happening to a x-men series.
New York would definitely be destroyed by now :)
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privatebanker
August 4, 2016 at 11:39 PM
LOL. Marvel & DC characters jumping out into real world. Imagine the horror ?
Speaking of which, what if someday MBC, KBS & SBS making a decent drama adopted from Avengers or Justice League with the main heroes (Kang Chul, Capt. Yoo Shi-Jin & Do Min-Join) making alliance to save the day.
Uh oh don't forget tvN & OCN doing great work as well.. involving Detective Lee Jae-Han and the con artist master Yang Jung-Do join the troops.
The timeline of the story must be excruciating.
Ok. I'm day dreaming now.
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privatebanker
August 4, 2016 at 11:42 PM
*Do Min-Joon
Damn you autocorrect ?
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Sancheezy
August 4, 2016 at 11:51 PM
I think marvel and DC will have a separate world, like Marvel x real world, DC x real world, hahaha
if dramaland want to make their own avenger or justice league, they need to include Lee Junki, a vampire, a skilled justice warrior, a fateful dad, a badass man and now is in line to become a king
could be funny if lee seung gi in gu family book meet the vampire lee junki and then meet several hundred years later wih do min joon,
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alasecond
August 5, 2016 at 12:58 AM
You have those sidey characters too.. like wookie's blad man, and RJY's comp genius (he can actually be the ironman - the gadget guy), shin minah :P being her cute and deadly fox
and we can have the ghosts supporting the kdrama avengers team :)
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Sancheezy
August 5, 2016 at 2:15 AM
Spot on with the ironman . . .
or maybe it can be played by Jo Sang Sook, he is a tech savvy in the Sly ad Single again and a Mask prosecutor at some point.
but of all I thin we have our villain,
the faceless man from W can count, he is a badass,
then Shin Sun Rok for Loki type of villain and Yeon Jung Hoon
waah . . . .
HD
August 5, 2016 at 2:54 AM
And Seo Jung Hoo, uri Helaer can be Superman :D
Sancheezy
August 5, 2016 at 3:04 AM
edit : * Jo Sang Wook
aah I need to sleep
alasecond
August 5, 2016 at 12:55 AM
I totally love that idea !!!
And lets not leave behind the time travellers ...
That would be so much fun..
We can have ninja powers, noodle master blasters, soju controllers like blood benders in the Avenger :)
Waah!...
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77 redfox
August 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM
hmm. started watching, but not thoroughly engaged... although it is a story I have imagined. what Yeon Joo said: what happens after the end? I have been asking that (even here on Dramabeans). Maybe someone is spying on me...
but the pace of this is a little draggy. maybe it is the editing.
and the reactions are too accepting. no one has visited a shrink.
I dunno. It is not that worth the hype I think. even if I sympathize with a fantasy characters´ struggle to be real. I have always considered them real. No question. No surprise. Totally natural, so I am not gasping for air or anything. it is Pinocchio / Sophies´ World / Being John Malcovitch and such mixed with webtoon style.
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faith
August 4, 2016 at 11:17 PM
then the drama is not for you then..good luck finding better kdrama like this in the future
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Jen
August 5, 2016 at 12:25 AM
Well it's understandable...I know that this drama will not be everyone's cup of tea but for me this show totally desrves the hype it's getting! ;)
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78 Sho
August 4, 2016 at 11:14 PM
Thank you GF >3<
"I would love it if Yeon-joo had creator-god power over Kang Chul’s world"
She's literally his goddess!
"But he does have a soft fatherly devotion to the character, and I found that fascinating and realistic."
Been saying this even when everyone else's hating on Dad =D! Exactly because Dad is so, so REAL! He as an artist is the embodiment of so many conflicting and complex emotions, making him the most intriguing (though not really lovable) character in a world where everyone else is either heroic, nice, or outright evil.
"I keep thinking of W the manhwa as a daddy-daughter bedtime story"
Omo! Such lovely and precise way of describing W in a nutshell! Haha this bedtime story gets several hundreds (thousands?) more twists and turns than our typical bedtime story though, and daddy's girl became the heroine herself fighting evil alongside the hero ;-)
"Maybe he was about to walk towards the light when he heard her say that she’d be going on a blind date every week?"
While this would be way too hilarious the reason KC's subconscious will to live came back to him, the timing was just too suspicious LOL!
I am actually really excited that the hooded killer is actually scary! It wouldn't be fun if he isn't =D!!!
And aww, I love all three "ordinary human" men in YJ's life! Mad Dog has *always* made me laugh, except when he was rescuing Dad (he was cool then!). Seok-bum is just such a nice friend (and I think KC was onto something, I think Seok-bum does have a secret crush on YJ). And I just LOVE Su-bon who's like a true sibling of YJ, he couldn't resist her puppy eyes/tears! Well at least it seems like Su-bon will continue to act like noona's sidekick even as she goes back in and out of the W World <3
Lastly, I've seen people complain about Ep. 6 being slow, but *this is already sufficiently fast* as compared to other regular dramas! It's just that we've been SPEEDING like crazy in Ep. 1-5 xD!!! So I thought it was nice to get a breather before the second installment of the series begins. I'm super excited about next week's episodes though, like our crazy heroine who must have been the happiest jail-breaker that found herself back in prison XD!!!
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LULU
August 5, 2016 at 7:34 AM
200% AGREE!!! Not Slow but well paced!
If this story didn't slow down and reveal the more real world changes and revelations (love Dads human side) than this story would be come more comic. I felt this episode helped ground the show much better and sets us up for the future.
Gosh the Villian is so cool (the best Heros are made from the best villians! Joker fan)
Korean dramas have the uncanny ability to make impossible things (sci-fi exp- signal) feel realistic. Like this director said he focused on the emotions of the characters and I think that's the key. The actors are so focused on their roles that we feel it's reality.
Always felt like I am watching a movie (I would be more scared cause movies never guarantee a happily ever after...drama seam safer..please writer nim! XI)
Love how YJ could be the original creator. Like how KC was originally her imaginary friend. Lot of single kids with parent problems start creating imaginary friend and world for support. I truly Can't predict this drama, but it's too late now and cause I'm fully invested in the story and characters!
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79 Lipidvits
August 4, 2016 at 11:23 PM
*spoilers*
I actually think that the killer is actually programmed to kill all KC's loved ones, maybe including KC himself in the end. Since he fell in love with YJ, the killer has followed her to the real world to kill her since in the manhwa world she's immortal.
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moose
August 4, 2016 at 11:37 PM
Faceless hoodie doesnt actuall kill KC in all their encounters. He is a glitch meant to keep him motivated - Either by killing his family or killing YJ - the manhwa must keep running.
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 3:25 AM
I thought the same too. When that guy showed up at the bridge, I thought "Feck! He's here to kill Yeon-joo!"
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80 halfmoon
August 4, 2016 at 11:28 PM
I missed watching our OTP together, but I did appreciate the last two episodes focusing on each of the main character.
My random comments:
-- it's a minor detail but I noticed how KC folded his goodbye letter in half at the convenient store. Yet, it was delivered folded in 3.
-- I don't get why YJ got pulled into the Han River at that time. Why not earlier when she has been thinking of KC? If it was KC who unconsciously pulled her , why at that moment ? Or was it triggered by someone else ?
-- we keep seeing the words "life sometimes is..." (or something along that line) on the bridge. I wonder if we would ever see the rest of the sentence.
-- so I guess we'll start a new chapter of W, yay! But how would KC know whether his thoughts and actions are truly his, and not decided by a writer? How will he feel about all this ?
-- if YJ becomes a writer and needs ideas without asking her dad, she should call Anthony !
-- is KC now going to be the one protecting and saving YJ's life (from the faceless killer)?
-- I hope KC and Dad will forgive each other at the end. Dad did try to kill KC in person. KC did shoot him, although intentionally sparing his life.
-- I wish I could create nice banners. I think we need some W-Two Worlds headers for our DramaBeans site !
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moose
August 4, 2016 at 11:45 PM
KC is satisfied or as satistified as he can be with his ending. That why the manhwa was able to end.
Faceless hoodie comes to the real world. He is not happy at webtoon's ending and is gonna off YJ to reinitiate the webtoon. KC senses this and intuitively calls out to YJ to give him life so he can protect her..
Man I am going crazy too.
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Sancheezy
August 4, 2016 at 11:53 PM
yup! you speak my mind . . . .
nice explanation
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CZ
August 5, 2016 at 8:14 AM
Oh, I really like your reading of it. Still doesn't cover mechanics of how all this manhwa-jumping is happening, or the Who of it, but what a great interpretation of the Why!
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MT
August 6, 2016 at 11:59 AM
Nice interpretation
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siesta
August 4, 2016 at 11:57 PM
the words on the bridge are real,not part of the drama
http://www.pri.org/stories/2012-09-27/bridge-signs-used-south-korea-anti-suicide-efforts
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Lord Cobol
August 5, 2016 at 12:28 AM
Maybe they could put up signs saying "Don't bother jumping -- just wait for our hooded ninja assassins to take care of your problem".
(I still like the suicide nets on the buildings at Foxconn in China)
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pinkmist02
August 5, 2016 at 1:53 AM
OH! I thought it was part of the show too.. was waiting for the second part of that sentence lol
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halfmoon
August 5, 2016 at 8:00 AM
@siesta -- thanks for the link! I googled to find the ending of the sentence but couldn't find anything. I wonder if the show picked that spot for its meaning (Bridge of Life + quote with the word "life").
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81 Lipidvits
August 4, 2016 at 11:51 PM
I think the killer is programmed to kill all of KC loved ones, maybe even KC himself. Since KC has fallen for YJ, he's out to kill her. And since she's immortal in the manhwa world, he has entered her world to kill her
The killer was actually pointing the gun and YJ and no KC in KC's room.
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CZ
August 5, 2016 at 8:16 AM
OMGGGG that explains the unnecessarily long two-cuts onto Yeung-ju's face in that episode, and why the killer disappeared from the elevator, instead of killing or fighting with Kang Chul. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Killer was aiming for Yeung-ju!!!!!!!
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82 Lord Cobol
August 4, 2016 at 11:52 PM
I think the bad blind date triggered the big upsets at the end.
That got Yeon-Joo interested in dating somebody better than the geek, which got her interested in you-know-who, which was enough to break his death-wish and suck him out of the void and into at least partial existence, which sucked her into the river...
... which doesn't do anything to explain our hooded Nazgul assassin showing up in otherworld and attacking passers-by. Somebody help me out here.
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 3:27 AM
Lipidvits said something good above.
That if Nazgul is setup to kill Kang-chul's loved ones, then he could have crossed over to hurt Yeon-joo.
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83 grasyaaaaaa
August 4, 2016 at 11:53 PM
What a great episode! Because of this show "W" becomes my favorite letter of the alphabet.
I'm just wondering, why when OYJ got too the bridge she's wearing her clothes from real world, but when she got into the prison, she's wearing the prisoner clothes.
It makes me think that may SB wrote her to be in there to make the story continue like what the other beanies said.
And how I'm going to wait for another week? This show makes me crazy, that good kind of crazy.
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faith
August 5, 2016 at 2:02 AM
su bong probably start the webtoon from the moment yeon joo when missing in the prison and make it all dream for kangchul..
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84 ohlalaland
August 4, 2016 at 11:57 PM
Wow, this show continues to blow my mind with each episode. The writer's spin on an old classic (pinocchio - LJS was in drama called pinocchio right?) is simply ingenious. My guess is Oh Yeon Joo is definitely connected as a co-creator of Kang Chul. Yippie, we will be seeing more of the bodyguard and so hee in the next episode.
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85 yssanism
August 5, 2016 at 12:04 AM
As soon as i finish watching this episode I went here for the explanation! Thanks dramabeans! the last time i came here was for You're Beautiful. You never fail to give a clear explanation :D
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86 Honey
August 5, 2016 at 12:06 AM
Omg, this episode was 200%!!!!! I love dramas that engage its viewers to interact. It's like Healer all over again yaaaaay
THAT PREVIEW THOUGH O MO N A
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Bongsookie
August 5, 2016 at 12:53 AM
Haha totally! I missed those days and I'm so glad I get re-live this kind of experience once again. Never thought would be this soon :D
W hwaiting! ❤
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87 mhandeee
August 5, 2016 at 12:11 AM
Im lost and confused.....
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88 robin
August 5, 2016 at 12:30 AM
i feel like this author really loves murdering people repeatedly and bringing them back to life
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cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 11:27 PM
Have you seen her other series (9 and QIHM)? You're pretty much spot on.
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89 Flavio
August 5, 2016 at 12:40 AM
"But then, was she also the one who caused the bathroom to flood and turn into the Han River? Or was Kang Chul calling out to her? Maybe he was about to walk towards the light when he heard her say that she’d be going on a blind date every week?" Hahahhaha, can't stop laughing at the image of KC turning around as he hears YJ and her doctor friend talking about the blind datesㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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90 franko
August 5, 2016 at 12:41 AM
the father seemed to ask the daughter if she was really his daughter. I wonder if they are leading up to she was really only a creation of his.
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CZ
August 5, 2016 at 8:19 AM
Yea! I thought it was a bit odd the way he split it up deliberately : you are Dad's daughter and you are Mom's daughter too.
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 8:57 AM
I think that's just an expression that doesn't translate well into English. I found the subs a bit awkward too.
I think it just means that "you are a person who lives here, your mom is here, your dad is here."
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91 Lessa
August 5, 2016 at 12:41 AM
yes. everyday i am in so much stress because of W.
YAAAASSS. MOAR
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92 Mee-Ra
August 5, 2016 at 12:47 AM
Gosh! That preview just nailed my curiosity... Married? So soon yet why not, they're both so hot just keeps brings more those sexy ideas back to the plot PD-nim... Couldn't wait for next week... This is awesome!
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93 Moon
August 5, 2016 at 12:51 AM
OMG!
KC never let go of her!
Once YJ started on blind date, KC woke up again!
Jealous!
heee heee ^_^
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94 ketchup
August 5, 2016 at 12:52 AM
So...I saw these set of questions on mydramalist page and thought I should repost this here to help a chingu out. I have not watched this drama so I don't know how to answer:
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Sancheezy
August 5, 2016 at 2:39 AM
well I'll try my best in my opinion
>>the reason why yeon joo got pulled is because she becomes part of webtoon world since the 1st encounter,
then why dad can't? It because the dad disown his own webtoon, betraying it by literally stab kang chul so the W world who revolves around Kang Chul as the main lead severed their ties to the dad,
in the other hand, yeon joo keeps saving kang cheol which is helping the world so she keeps pulling in when kang cheol needs her
>>why she get pulled into the water . . .
it because the webtoon continued, the webtoon was ended before with kang chul suicide. Then 2 months later, I assumed some strange phenomena happen, like the faceless killers desire to finish his job but he can't since the webtoon already end and kang chul froze in the lake,
the killers finally find kang chul under the bridge but nothing can happen while his desire makes him another lead in the story, like the main villain that resulted in making the webtoon world of W alive again.
But in order to make the world progress, kang chul should be saved but how?
the world pulls the heroine to saved him,
- Sung Moo said there's no killer
yes, there's no real killer, means that he never created someone that could be the killer, it just a plot device to make a backstory,
some hollow man without a name, family, story or history, only a thing that harm kang chul as the main lead,
so he had no name, no address, no any information for the killers,
then why there's one now?
IMO it because after he created it, he used it several times recently but lose power over it after the confrontation with kang chul in the real world, so the killer is in rampage mode to complete the last mission he took, to kill kang chul
>>the dad personality changes? maybe he still shocked that kang chul shoots him in front of his eyes, his worst fear comes true,
kang chul get to the real world and try to kill him
>>why did the ending changes?
because the villain doesn't accept the ending and there's a possibility to continue the story,
so the W doesn't have real antagonist at 1st but the usage of hollow man over and over make him the antagonist and all the lead play a big part in the story continuation . Since kang chul didn't commit suicide in the webtoon world but in the real world,
he just frozen in time, not literally disappear and
plot-wise, this mean he still can be killed, therefore the killer and the heroine still has a story
I also thought that the hollow man also corroborate with the webtoon world defence mechanism, it allowed him because his action can protect the mystery of the webtoon's world.
well this is my interpretation, can't guarantee it as the truth,
love the cameo and hope you can understand my view
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CZ
August 5, 2016 at 8:25 AM
Sancheezy answered it all great, but to add:
When Dad wrote the first suicide, I think that's when W cutoff its ties with him. I mean, this ending with Kang Chul (finding the Dad, and realizing there are no answers,) is a kind of answer, whereas the first bridge was completely nonsensical and cut off the story before its time.
And Dad being calmer after surgery is because he had been going crazy from his manhwa changing without his writing it, but now the break is clean: he sees that Kang Chul didn't kill him after all (even though he did shoot him) and the manhwa is over; he can put down his pen and that would give him peace.
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95 alasecond
August 5, 2016 at 1:06 AM
This show presents the real life quandry so well..
As an author if you have found success with a workpiece, and then when fans start pestering you,c alling you names, doing whatever to make sure the story flws their wishes..
No one bothers about the author who may have just got tired and bored of his creation and wants to explore something new..
For the fans, the original writer is the god..if he writes it , it is true. All other writers become fanfics or duplicate of the original.. nothing spells the world 'truly happening' as the original author..
E.g. if rowling writes it, the HP world moves.. if anyone writes it, it maybe fun to read, but then you know that it is not hP world... :)
And how incredibly powerful a position is it where you can influence mental, emotional capacity of millions of people with just a stroke of a pen..
PS: Just finished cursed child.. and I can't say how happy I am that in some universe they let snape know how awesome he was and that people recognize it... :D .. anyone else writing it would have still not closed the loop
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96 celine
August 5, 2016 at 1:15 AM
I like how the writer handled the situation of Dad being shot. It was my first time to see Professor Park be serious and somewhat caring when he operated on Dad.
I was expecting for Dad to go all "See! He's truly monster!" But he did not and he even tried to draw again. I also like that YJ did not mope that KC's gone. For sure, deep inside, she's sad and that was shown on her face, but I like that she went on with her life (for a few months).
Almost not much KC in this episode, but I like it. It was focused on Dad and YJ for a change.
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97 naska
August 5, 2016 at 2:10 AM
SAD NEWS
Koreans are guessing that MBC will cancel 'W''s ep 8,9 and 10 because of Olympic.
ep7 is not confirmed.
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grasyaaaaaa
August 5, 2016 at 2:21 AM
this is so sad
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Cat
August 5, 2016 at 2:48 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i need ep 7 and 8 right now!!! i can't handle the suspense and its not even a day yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
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michykdrama
August 5, 2016 at 3:43 AM
by "cancel" you mean "postpone" right?
It's not like they are going to shorten the drama by 3 episodes and make them reshoot right?
I think I will have one more station to hate if that happens.
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miroufleur
August 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM
omggg nooooo MBC don't cancel the drama !!! One week is hard enough, the torture of waiting for next episode is real. I need episode 7 and 8 please :(
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Lord Cobol
August 5, 2016 at 10:28 AM
Hmmm.... The Olympics are scheduled years in advance the the network executives are just thinking of this now? If they are thinking of doing that to a hit like W, what would they have done to a low-rated show?????
If they do cancer or postpone, Kang Chul and the hooded Nazgul assassin might even agree on who the next target should be. KC likes to shoot people but doesn't kill them, yet. Third time's the charm.
And writer-nim can just do the missing episodes as a manwha.
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celine
August 5, 2016 at 8:15 PM
I'd rather they postpone the episodes than for the drama to suffer dips in ratings due to the Games. Its best that the viewers are focused on the drama than to have W compete with a major world event such as the Rio Olympics. It's not that bad because starting EP 7 it is a new chapter in the drama. It's like EP 1-6 were part of Season 1 and after the Olympics we'll be continuing with Season 2. I'm very sad as well and the wait will be insane, but I'd prefer which one will give the best result for the drama.
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98 Habanero
August 5, 2016 at 2:38 AM
I had the feeling that in episode 5 Kang Chul's journey into the real world will turn into manhwa as well. I don't know if it's just me but I feel like the camera movements and position (I don't know what the correct terms are) are different in manhwa and in real world. Even when Kang Chul entered the real world aka Yeon joo's world, the camera moves the same as in manhwa. And this episode proves I was right. Yay!
There are so many things that are left unexplained yet about this drama universe but I put my trust on this creative writer. It has been so long since I feel so excited because of a drama. Therefore Show, please please be good till the end.
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99 Joe
August 5, 2016 at 2:42 AM
Yeon joo draws kang chul when she is a kid and their parents fighting.. remember she draw him with a gun while crying.
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100 Dazzle
August 5, 2016 at 2:47 AM
I've got a feeling that this is a story of a manga world within a manga. Yeon Joo and Dad are manga characters where Dad is the manga writer who writes a manga world for Kang Chul. The actual writer of these manga worlds are Yeon Joo and Kang Chul. Just my take on the story twist as there are narrations made by Kang Chul and Yeon Joo as third parties.
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