Cheese in the Trap: Episode 5
by girlfriday
Yay, now I can join the Cheese party! This show is a nice gust of fresh air, and I’ve really been enjoying its contemplative, slice-of-life feel, especially the way it handles heavy themes and light romance with equal skill, without ever having to veer into melodramatic territory or stray from its thoughtful, slightly off-kilter tone. It’s also nice to come across a set of characters who don’t always do the thing you expect them to do, and in the case of this drama hero, it’s thrilling and maddening all at once.
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Bily Acoustie – “그대도 나와 같다면” (If You’re Like Me Too) [ Download ]
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EPISODE 5 RECAP
In-ho walks Seol home, and they’re both taken aback to see Jung standing in front of her door. Jung tells her that he came to check on her doors and windows because of the recent burglar scare in her neighborhood, and In-ho scoffs to see Jung show concern for another human being.
Jung simply turns to him and says, “Because she’s my girlfriend,” and In-ho gets riled up, thinking that there must be a connection between Seol being his girlfriend and Jung cutting off his sister. Before Seol can figure out what that even means, Jung tells her to go inside.
Once they’re alone, In-ho asks if it’s because he approached Jung’s girlfriend that he’s acting like this toward his sister In-ha. Jung doesn’t confirm or deny; but he says that In-ha will have to find someplace else to live next month… or In-ho could quit the tutoring academy job, his call. Yeesh.
In-ho says he has no intention of disappearing like Jung wants him to, and challenges, “What, are you going to destroy my right hand this time?” Jung doesn’t flinch and asks if that’s what he really wants. In-ho laughs bitterly and says, “That’s right, this is the moment I like best—when your mask comes off.” Though Jung had remained impassive in front of In-ho, the minute he walks away, there’s a momentary flicker that crosses his face. Annoyance? Anger? Something else?
Seol runs back out and chases after Jung, who’s mad at her for ignoring his warning to stay away from In-ho. She explains running into In-ho by coincidence and not telling him because she didn’t want him to worry, but all Jung does is instruct her to stay away from In-ho no matter what.
As the rain starts coming down, Seol thinks to herself that Jung only ever says what he wants and that’s the end of it. She’s always been patient, she thinks, but today the dam finally bursts: “Why? Why do I have to avoid Baek In-ho? Why do I have to listen to you no matter what?”
She asks to be given a reason she can understand, but Jung just gets angry that she’s not doing as he asked. He realizes they’re both soaked and opens up his umbrella overhead, and says he doesn’t want to fight anymore. He tries to tell her to go inside and they’ll talk tomorrow, but Seol challenges, “And tomorrow? What’ll change? Whether I apologize or ask questions, you don’t listen to me. You tell me to avoid or stop with no explanation. What am I supposed to do? What am I to you? Is this dating?”
Seol walks away and answers a call from Bora, who’s incomprehensible and crying. When Seol turns back around to go to Bora, Jung is standing in the same spot wanting to talk. But when he hears that Bora’s father has collapsed, he says they’ll take his car. Seol worries that Bora is all alone because her mother passed away and all she has is Dad, and Jung speeds so they’ll get to the hospital sooner.
Eun-taek arrives at the hospital first, and Bora wails as she asks why he’s only just arriving now and what he’ll do if something goes wrong with her father. He apologizes and hugs her, reassuring her that everything will be okay.
Seol arrives and holds Bora as she cries, and Jung asks the nurse for a spare room for Bora before she collapses too. Eun-taek carries her away while Seol and Jung wait outside the surgical ward.
Meanwhile, In-ho broods at home thinking about Jung’s “she’s my girlfriend” declaration, clearly upset by it. He convinces himself that it’ll be fun, though he doesn’t look like he’s having much fun.
As Seol and Jung wait, he notices her dozing off and tells her to take a nap, but she wants to wait up. He wonders why, when it will have no effect on the outcome of the surgery. Odd. And then when a patient is rolled past them and Seol gasps at the bloody hand, he shows no reaction and wonders why it would frighten her. Odd again.
The doctor comes out and tells them that Bora’s father had a brain hemorrhage, but they caught it early and the surgery should go well. Seol is relieved, and when Jung goes to get a blanket, she thinks to herself that it’s nice to be able to depend on him, but something’s been off between them since earlier that night.
Jung grabs a blanket from Bora’s room, where she and Eun-taek have fallen asleep side-by-side, holding hands between their beds. That’s so sweet.
Seol is already asleep when he comes back out, so he quietly covers her with the blanket and sits next to her, and spends a while staring at her hand. He inches his hand closer and closer until their fingers touch, and then gently takes her hand in his.
Seol wakes up to find that they both fell asleep that way, and she in turn covers Jung with the blanket and sits next to him. The surgeon finally comes out and tells them that the surgery went well, and they run to tell Bora the good news.
Bora checks on her father and thanks them all for staying so long. When she sends them all home, Eun-taek says he couldn’t possibly leave her here alone, and everyone smiles. It only lasts for a second and Bora is back to nagging him about not answering her calls right away, but Eun-taek just grabs her hand again and says he’d never ignore her calls.
As they walk out of the hospital, Seol apologizes to Jung for getting mad over something so little, and he admits to going overboard too. He sits her down and tells her that In-ho is the grandson of a professor that Jung’s father respected, and when the professor passed away, his dad became In-ho and In-ha’s benefactor.
Jung says that In-ho used to play piano really well, but in high school a fight broke out and he hurt his hand, and In-ho thinks it’s Jung’s fault. Jung insists that it’s a misunderstanding and that he’s tried to explain it several times to In-ho, but he won’t believe him. He says he wanted Seol to stay away from In-ho because he was worried that In-ho would somehow try to get back at him through her.
Seol thinks to herself that the feelings run a little too deep for it to be a simple misunderstanding, but decides to trust Jung for now. Jung asks if there’s something else that’s bothering her, because it seems like she’s been mad at him all day. She decides that clearing the air would be better than carrying more misunderstandings, and tells him about running into Joo-yeon yesterday, and what she heard about the night she had a run-in with the homeless man on campus.
She says that it confused her to hear that he’d walked away without caring, and wondered why he asked her to date. Jung finally tells her that he called the security guards and went to go check on her that night, and then the next day he checked on her again, and thought she lied about where she got the wound because she didn’t want any rumors floating around.
She’s relieved and a little mortified, especially when he asks in disbelief if she took Joo-yeon’s words at face value. She says she’s sorry and promises not to let any misunderstandings fester from now, and Jung promises not to do anything to make her mad from now on.
They smile at each other, but then a rumbling from Seol’s stomach breaks the mood. She says she hasn’t eaten all day, and he remembers that he bought food earlier and takes out triangle kimbap and offers to unwrap hers. He seems so proud, it’s adorable.
As they drive home, Seol thinks to herself that Jung doesn’t like a fuss, and doesn’t defend himself until he’s asked, even when it causes misunderstandings. That’s just his way, she thinks, and she tells herself to forget the past and start over because that’s the right thing to do.
The next day, Seol walks up to In-ho at the tutoring academy and asks hesitantly if he got home okay last night. But he’s suddenly very cold and huffy, calling her “Yoo Jung’s girlfriend” and acting like she’s being haughty, even though she’s hardly said two words.
When class is over that night, In-ho follows her out just to say that he’s not going to go home now if she’s going home, because her boyfriend might get mad. You’re hilarious. Are you going to pull her pigtails next?
Seol tells him to stop picking fights with her and just say what he wants to say, and that just flusters him even more. He says that they should act like strangers from now on, and is thrown when she blurts that she agrees and storms off.
She chats with Jung on the phone that night and tells him about her parents opening up a new noodle shop and says he should visit sometime. He jokes that it’s a little early to meet the parents (he uses a word that means a formal set-the-marriage-date meeting), and she’s so shocked that he has to explain he was kidding.
She offers to buy him dinner because she got paid today and says they can eat anything he wants, so he says he’s going to choose something really expensive. He’s joking again, but she can never tell, and he grins to himself cutely because he can practically hear her brain doing cartwheels over the phone.
Prickly sunbae Yoon-sub (Seol’s boss at her university admin job) spends the night curled up in the corner of someone else’s room. It’s not until morning that the person comes home, and it turns out to be Seol’s next-door neighbor Joo-yong.
Joo-yong greets Yoon-sub as “jagi-ya,” and though he seems to call a lot of people that, these two definitely seem like boyfriends. Yoon-sub gets mad about Joo-yong staying out all night and catches him in a lie, and when he hears that Joo-yong went home to see his mom because his father wasn’t around, Yoon-sub snaps at him to just go home to his mommy then.
Joo-yong tries to get him to stay, and while they’re arguing in the hallway, they run into the owner’s grandson, who looks super shifty about being seen. He says he came to check on some things that need fixing, and makes a comment about the two guys having spent the night together, and sneers about it when he’s alone.
Seol agonizes over the menu at a restaurant, and when Jung sees that she’s got a coupon for a specific dish, he readily suggests they order that. Seol tells him not to worry about In-ho because they’re distant now, and that seems to make him happy. He asks how she became friends with Eun-taek and Bora, and she says she met Eun-taek through Bora, and met Bora through tutoring when they were high school seniors.
Seol remembers Bora as being very aggressive at first and laughs about it now. She says that there are some people whose first impressions remain constant as you get to know them, and others who end up completely the opposite. Jung asks if he’s any different from her first impression of him, and she freezes, not knowing how to answer. He says that things are really different between them than a year ago, and says with a smile, “I like it.” She says she does too, but can’t even lift her head to meet his eyes.
As they walk down the street, a motorcycle zooms past and Jung grabs her out of the way, but instead of swooning like in any other drama, Seol flips out and pushes him away, like he just accosted her or something. That frightens him and then they’re both scared. She cracks me up with her flailing, though her reaction makes me curious.
They browse a store and Seol picks out a hairpin and sees Jung looking at watches, and he picks up a little redheaded lion cell phone charm and says it looks just like her. She doesn’t seem flattered and self-consciously touches her hair, but he buys one for each of them anyway.
At home, Seol looks at the lion and wonders if it really does look like her, and eventually breaks into a cute little smile, deciding that maybe it does. Jung waits up for her to text, and he looks so happy when she calls.
It doesn’t take long for In-ho to break his own rule and approach Seol at the tutoring academy, and he does it by picking another stupid fight, naturally. She reminds him that they’re supposed to be strangers, and he starts mopping at her feet like a little kid, making her drop her notebook right into the sopping puddle.
She storms off angrily, and In-ho chases after her. His sister In-ha happens to walk in and see this, because she’s here to demand more money from him in person after he ignored her calls. She follows Seol to the convenience store and makes her pay for her snacks without the slightest introduction or explanation.
In-ho convinces one of the instructors at the academy to let him make a copy of the book he ruined for Seol, by promising to get the teacher’s shoes shined. He starts to make a copy when In-ha calls from Seol’s phone and warns him to show up with money before something happens to his girlfriend.
In-ha asks Seol about her relationship with her brother, and Seol says they hardly know each other, and it’s not what In-ha is assuming. In-ha watches her brother run towards them like his feet are on fire and says he showed up way too fast for them to be nothing.
In-ho gives Seol the book and drags In-ha away kicking and screaming, and she demands more money because she’s all out. He’s so infuriated that he lifts a hand like he’s about to strike her, and though he stops and doesn’t actually do anything, she challenges him to go ahead and hit her then: “You’re just like our aunt. Go ahead, hit me. Hit me!”
He pales as she screams in his face, and we fade into a flashback of In-ha as a child, screaming at their aunt who hit her repeatedly. Little In-ho had dragged her away and asked why she always provoked her, and In-ha said that woman wasn’t their aunt, and they should run away.
He argued that their parents and grandfather had passed away and they had nowhere else to go, but In-ha was determined to get away. So In-ho jumped out the window and In-ha was right behind him, but their aunt caught her before she could jump… and he kept running.
He didn’t get far, since Jung’s dad was on his way to see them, and In-ha eventually ran out the door and caught up to them. She showed Chairman Yoo all the bruises on her body and screamed that they’d been abused, begging and pleading for him to take them away.
We fade back to the present, and In-ha counts her money with a smirk on her face, thinking it pitiful that In-ho is still so guilt-ridden about that. Damn, she’s cold. Seol brings In-ho a coffee and thanks him for the book, and leaves him alone to brood some more.
After helping out at her parents’ new restaurant all weekend, Seol is exhausted when Jung calls about their date. He suggests doing something near her house instead, and she tells him to meet her at a bar in her neighborhood.
Jung arrives first and runs into Joo-yong, who’s shocked to see him here. Jung calls him “hyung” and it sounds like they’ve known each other for a long time, though Jung doesn’t look especially happy to see him. He’s surprised to hear that Joo-yong left home because his parents disapproved of his relationship, and wonders why that’d be something to leave home over.
Joo-yong says this person is the only one who loves him for him, and guesses that Jung wouldn’t know anything about love, adding offhandedly that no one in her right mind would be with him. He catches himself before he can even finish that sentence and tries to take it back, and stammers, “I’m not saying you were in the wrong!” Hm, innnteresting.
Jung says he’s been drinking too much and tries to get him to go home, and that’s when Seol arrives and wonders how Jung knows her next-door neighbor. Joo-yong in turn is shocked to find out that they’re dating.
In-ho sees a suspicious man pick up a brick and turn down Seol’s street, and it niggles at him enough that he turns around and follows the guy. Yoon-sub steps out and calls Joo-yong for the millionth time, when Brick Man creeps down the dark street and SLAMS the brick down on top of Yoon-sub’s head. It’s the landlord’s grandson, and it seems that he’s been waiting for Yoon-sub to come outside.
In-ho runs over just in time to see the guy run away, and screams for a lady to call emergency while he presses his shirt against Yoon-sub’s gaping head wound.
Meanwhile, Joo-yong gets so drunk that Jung has to piggyback him home, and Seol helps him get Joo-yong tucked into bed. She wonders why his door was unlocked, but doesn’t have a chance to dwell on it. Jung tells her to lock up and give Joo-yong his keys tomorrow.
She trips over the doorway on the way out and Jung catches her by the waist, and she’s so awkward that she just stands frozen like that in his arms, wondering to herself what a normal person does in this situation—invite him over for coffee? Ramyun? You are so spazzy, and I love it.
He smiles and answers as if he just heard her thoughts: “I want to, but next time.” He pets her on the head sweetly and tells her to lock up before saying goodnight, and she winces in mortification once he’s gone.
The next day, Seol comes home to a big ruckus in her neighborhood. A lady is accusing Joo-yong of being the underwear thief, and a cop questions him about where he was last night. He says he was drinking with Seol, who backs him up on this, and she goes with him when the cop asks to search his room.
There’s no reason he’d even be interested in women’s underwear, not that they know this, but Seol defends him to the cop and says he wouldn’t do something like that. But then a pile of women’s lingerie is discovered in his room, and Seol’s eyes widen to see something of hers in the stash.
When Jung calls, Seol explains what’s happened and says she’s at the police station with Joo-yong, and Jung just says very dispassionately that it’ll get cleared up if he’s not guilty. Seol wonders to herself, “Didn’t they say they were close?”
And then while Joo-yong is being questioned, he finds out that Yoon-sub is the victim from last night, and he runs out of there in a panic. Jung just hangs up and continues his workout, not caring in the least.
Seol steps out of the police station to find In-ho there, and as they walk home, she tells him that he did a good thing and that he saved a sunbae of hers. She doesn’t know why Yoon-sub was here, and asks In-ho what HE was doing in front of her house last night.
In-ho gets all flustered and says he wasn’t there for her or anything, and she points out that she never insinuated that, finding it amusing. She thanks him for what he did, and he apologizes for his noona the other day. He tells her that if In-ha ever comes by again, she should just run away.
Seol overhears an argument next door at Joo-yong’s house, and is standing out in the hallway when Yoon-sub comes storming out mid-fight. Awkward. Yoon-sub asks what she’s doing here, and accuses her and Jung of having a great time messing with him because they know his weaknesses, and asks bitterly if she enjoys going to school for free. Oh. What.
Seol doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and he can’t believe that she has no idea that Jung threatened him to act like he lost Jung’s report last year to make sure that Seol got the scholarship in his place. Behind him, Joo-yong gasps to learn that the person who’s been threatening him all this time was Jung.
Seol is stunned, but this time she asks Jung directly instead of holding it in. She asks if it’s true that he threatened Yoon-sub and made him misplace his report, making Jung’s scholarship go to Seol and tarnishing Yoon-sub’s reputation as an irresponsible admin. Jung admits to all of it, and says that he didn’t want her to take a semester off.
She points out that they didn’t speak back then, but he says that’s why—they weren’t friendly but he wanted to get to know her, and he had no other way of helping her out. He argues that he never would’ve done it if it had caused Yoon-sub harm, but Yoon-sub wronged him in the past and he asked for the favor, and it’s all in the past.
Seol argues, “How can everything always be so clear-cut and simple for you?” She says that Yoon-sub is being talked about at school and hates her, and she asks if Jung has ever once thought about it from Yoon-sub’s point of view. He says he’s sorry if he didn’t think it through enough, but says in his defense that it was all for her.
He tries to stop her when she gets up, and she thinks to herself that this is such a blow to her pride and she can’t breathe when she thinks that someone else has already been hurt because of her. Out loud, she says, “I can’t say thank you.”
She walks away and thinks, “I didn’t want to get used to receiving things from others. I didn’t know that I had already been receiving many things from Sunbae, but what angers me more is that I was shaken by his words that it was all for me.”
Jung stands there wondering why things still turned out this way when he told the truth, and calls Yoon-sub. Uh-oh. In flashback we see that Jung caught Yoon-sub stealing money out of someone else’s wallet at that department party at the start of the semester, and he’d then asked Yoon-sub to lose his report and they’d call it even.
Back in the present, Joo-yong worries that Yoon-sub pissed off the wrong person because he knows that Jung is someone who repays every wrong done to him. And when Jung shows up, the pleasant, polite veneer is completely gone. He’s cold and vicious as he sneers at Yoon-sub for mouthing off, and when Joo-yong jumps to his defense and pleads for Jung to let him off the hook, Jung asks what their relationship is and says condescendingly, “Well isn’t that a sight.”
Jung accuses Yoon-sub of being a credit card thief and Joo-yong of being an underwear thief, and asks if Joo-yong’s parents know he’s living like this. Joo-yong says that everything Yoon-sub has done was for him, and swears that the underwear thing wasn’t him. Jung wonders who’s to say until he’s cleared of suspicion, and Joo-yong notes that this is the real Yoo Jung—incapable of understanding anyone else’s emotions and ignoring them completely.
Joo-yong says he’s even worse than before, and Jung erupts in anger at that: “Are you saying this is my fault?! He messed everything up!” He includes Joo-yong among the things that Yoon-sub messed up, and charges at him when he thinks of Seol. Joo-yong begs him to let it go and gets down on his knees, pleading for him to let it go just this once because Yoon-sub sacrificed so much for him.
Jung agrees to let it go under one condition, and tells Joo-yong to go back home. He doesn’t want them together in front of Seol and asks if Joo-yong doesn’t know what state his family is in, and tells him to get it together before walking away. Yoon-sub is beside himself at the idea that Joo-yong will go back home (they never say it outright, but the implication is that his parents would never accept him being gay), and Yoon-sub cries over and over, “Are you going home?!” Joo-yong just hugs him and asks not to fight today.
At home, Jung plays video games and thinks over what Joo-yong and Seol said about him today. He wonders, “Are they strange? My ways, my thoughts? Why? The truly strange thing is you people.” He thinks of everyone he caught doing something wrong and the way they’d all pleaded with him to let it go, and what In-ho said about him acting like a god who looked at people.
Jung thinks about Seol and how they first crossed paths, and thinks, “You did it too. You saw me and sneered and judged me however you wanted. And you turned your back on me. Seol-ah, I’m not strange.”
COMMENTS
Oh you’re definitely strange; it’s just the quality of what kind of strange that’s in question. I swear, after every episode I feel so completely turned around on my Yoo Jung stance. First he’s weird, then he’s sweet, then he’s cold, then he’s warm; he’s vicious, then kind, scary, then sympathetic. I don’t know which way is up and I wonder if I’ll ever know. It’s maddening in a good way, as far as the story goes—I just want to figure him out so badly that I keep wanting Seol to give him the benefit of the doubt just to see where this goes, even though I honestly would have run away if I were in her shoes. We’ve already seen signs today that she doesn’t inherently trust him, and has to tell herself to trust what he says or accept his explanations for now, and even though I’m pretty sure he genuinely likes her (whatever that means, in his head), he keeps doing things that make me think her gut is right and he can never be fully trusted.
I know that Seol is a little more paranoid than the average bear (or just more observant?), but her worries about Jung are obviously not ALL in her head if he has a history of this kind of behavior that others from his past know. He clearly has trouble with empathy, but what worries me more is this eye-for-an-eye business, where he always repays every wrong done to him in kind. Of course, that’s just Joo-yong’s interpretation and it could be wrong; up until now I had thought of Jung as being more opportunistic about calling in favors owed when it suits him, but Joo-yong made it seem like he carried grudges and never let things go if the score weren’t even.
That worries me in a new way, especially after his confrontation with Joo-yong and Yoon-sub at the end of the episode. He was more vicious and condescending than we’ve seen up until now, and I flinched when he was so intolerant of discovering that Joo-yong was gay. I had gotten the sense that he was quick to judge before this, but that was a new low. It’s not like I don’t see his argument that other people judge him just as harshly, but there’s a power imbalance with Jung that makes his actions seem crueler, like he’s always bestowing forgiveness on people when he’s no god.
And yet, even after all that, I can’t shake the feeling that he’s learning how to love and think of others because of Seol, and I really felt something when he so hesitantly reached out and touched her fingers and held her hand as she slept. He scares me, but I want to see more of that genuine warmth and curiosity from him. The scholarship thing is a huge setback though, and I was fuming when he didn’t understand why she’d find it patronizing and not something to be grateful for. It’s just all wrong for him to get mad at Yoon-sub for spilling the beans when he never should’ve manipulated his grades for Seol in the first place, and I hope she doesn’t let him off the hook too easily just because his heart was in the right place. With a guy like Jung, I think that excuse could lead to some very dark places all too readily.
Structurally, I like that there’s such a push and pull in the relationship without the usual romantic ambiguity. They’re already dating and we know they like each other, but I find that their dynamic and my impression of the relationship changes every time, because there’s so much character ambiguity clouding the way you might read an otherwise very average interaction between a couple. Like when Jung pulled Seol out of the way of the motorcycle, was she just a flailing nervous wreck, or was she actually frightened? Is their lack of skinship because he’s being respectful, or because he’s never let himself get that physically close to anyone before? Is he doing what she wants in order to sincerely gain her trust and be close to her, or does he just want to do whatever it takes to keep the peace and not fight? And then of course when you add in a second lead like In-ho who seems to fit with Seol so easily and naturally, it’s hard not to wonder if she’d be happier without Jung. Basically, this show fills my head with crazy questions, but it’s one case where I’m happy to be left guessing.
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51 ehemm
January 18, 2016 at 10:38 PM
this is seriously owsome. It is slightly different from the manhwa but still fresh. but both still have their own strength. jung's eye when he gets mad, wahh seriously awesome. it delivers perfectly.
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52 hanie
January 18, 2016 at 10:41 PM
Ahh....
I in love with this drama so much it scares me when I remember about its surprise ending~
Honestly, I think drama version Yoojung sunbae is juuussstt a tiny bit warmer than webtoon version. Probably because the drama skips several chapters but that didnt necessarily alter sunbae's personality, only we didn't get to see as much his hidden personality. There is a part in the webtoon while they are waiting for Bora's dad, that makes me scared of sunbae. He let his guard down/pull off his mask for a brief moment but it is impactful imo. He was looking down at jooyong particularly because of how he became, not because of his sexual orientation. I'm not sure whether there will be flashback on their relationship but jooyong did advice him when they were young & the way I read it, sunbae takes that advice to heart. So it pissed him that jooyong, after giving him that advice still living like a loser. And TA Heo was stealing from yoojung.
Seol reacted that way due to what happened between them in the past but not sure whether that will show up later or not. So, I just say that much to avoid being a spoiler.
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Livii
January 19, 2016 at 1:55 AM
I agree that he seems warmer here, same way that I feel Inho has been toned down a lot.
Are you talking about the long corridor scene in the hospital when he goes to get the blanket? Yes, I remember being chilled by it too... not just by his thoughts but the surroundings... the silence of the hospital and the lonely corridors... wow the webtoon really was evocative.
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53 kit
January 18, 2016 at 10:49 PM
Oh, I like this drama.
Every character elicits a range of feelings from me, ones that continuously change. Everybody likes to victimise themselves, to differing extents. It's fascinating.
Seol is a great protagonist.
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54 Gyu
January 18, 2016 at 11:01 PM
I find it amusing that people can tolerate YJ manipulative behavior but not InHA, It's because YJ is hot sunbae? IRL I can't bring my self to date/just be friend with someone like YJ. but if Soel can handle him, who am I to judge? Gonna support her happiness.
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Cindy
January 18, 2016 at 11:20 PM
You bring a point.
Both Jung IH manipulates others to get their way.
In Ha uses their feelings to manipulate them, not caring about the person, be it her brother, jung, chairman.
In Ha just wants to get money and have a easy life, always blaming others for.
Jung, also manipulate others, but he does it for money? Does he blames others for his actions?
This is what makes them different. Jung tries to not fight others and be in peace, he only manipulate others when they did him wrong or are bothering him.
He doesn't go around taking money from others or hitting people, being rude to others like IH (she blows and screams to everyone, very rude and arrogant) Jung also doesn't go around beating others just because........
Jung works hard from the bottom ... true he is the chairman son, but he was never a jerk to others just because he is rich or didn't study at all because he has money. He got the top grades, and works hard... In Ha does not..... see why people might dislike her?
In Ha gets lots of chance to go back to study. She doesn't want to. If they cut her money off she bother others, uses men to pay things or her brother.
Jung and his father let IH study to get a simple license and work at their company, which is hard to enter if you have no connection and no good grades and degree. She doesn't want to.
Jung is always trying to be better, to succeed. In Ha is not, always stuck in her victim life.
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Gyu
January 18, 2016 at 11:34 PM
ok I got your point. thank you.
but still If I ever meet someone like YJ I better run :)
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lolalarue
January 19, 2016 at 1:40 AM
Even if he looks like Park Hae Jin? :)
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mars
January 19, 2016 at 12:00 PM
Of course it's because he's hot! And... I'm pretty sure if In Ha and YJ switched roles, there would still be a boatload of people hating on In Ha. I can leave anyone to guess why.
I personally don't think In Ha is "stuck in her victim life". In this episode she uses the perception of being a victim against In Ho, pretty damn effectively. If In Ho hadn't lost his temper and raised his hand against her, she wouldn't have been able to wield her past abuse and his past guilt against him.
In Ha wears a mask just as YJ does. They're both interesting characters, I think. But, of course, In Ha will get the lion's share of people's annoyance.
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kelly-k
March 13, 2017 at 9:39 AM
Praise the lord .... This is why to me the two must interesting people are In Ha and YJ ....
They both seem to have that ability and know each other well... In Ha knows when YJ is up to some thing and she is usually fisrt to smell it ... They seem to understand each others BS ... And I like that dynamic ...
To me its hypocritical ... Forget the acting ... If its wrong its wrong ... No making excuses for them ... But I love them both because they make me want to dig more ...
Want to understand more...
On a shallow note ... Loving. PHJ is a sickness I plan on not curing .... If he was the asshole that was born to run the earth my heart will still skip a beat ...
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55 halfmoon
January 18, 2016 at 11:03 PM
Did Seol end up paying for InHa's drink/snacks ? I hope she refused, although it didn't seem like it. I don't get it. She is now able to stand up for herself in front of Jung but not in front of a stranger?
Also, did she guess that InHo came to check on her safety when he saw the weird guy with the brick? But she didn't understand why Jung wanted to eat so badly with her (and thought he had some sort of food obsession)? Granted, she might have been confused by Jung's changed behavior. But I find her a liiiiitle bit inconsistent.
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lolalarue
January 19, 2016 at 1:44 AM
That bugged me too, but I feel like Seol has a certain level of tolerance, perhaps? She gets the lay of the land and is careful when she confronts people (or maybe not careful but just reaches a point where she can no longer stand being walked on). She seems meek because it takes a while for people to push her too far, so she has no choice but to react. I think In Ho is the only person whose behaviour she doesn't have to put with, so she can be blunt.
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Kween Ramyeon
January 19, 2016 at 10:07 AM
Yes, I guess she has that degree of tolerance. I found it already taxing in one of the earlier episodes when she comes out of a coffee shop and gets told off by Ju Yeon for not greeting Yoo Jung. And she just stands there and lets Ju Yeon snark at her - I'd have long say "oh hi, bye" and walked on.
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56 Narangja
January 18, 2016 at 11:08 PM
Randomly, I love LOVE love how inho and seol walk so close to each other they keep bumping into one another. They're not even aware it happens. ah.
Dream stroll right there <3
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57 serani
January 18, 2016 at 11:13 PM
wow I really like cheese in the trap it has different vibe than other kdramas.Jung is really weird still his action are right but his ideas are completely different from people around him that makes him distance and cold in other people eyes in this ep I finally have confidence in feeling towards seol.I like there romance and the fact that he told her the truth when she asked him.inho is really a cute puppy who doesn't know his feelings towards seol.I really like his pity fights with seol.I officially hate in ha she is sooooo annoying.
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58 Poison Ivy
January 18, 2016 at 11:17 PM
I am quite fascinated by the complexity of Jung's thought process. Call him a sociopath or a psychopath...I really don't care. I just know that his character is deep that needs some digging to understand who he is. I'm sure it will be revealed later on. How can he be mysterious, weird and creepy and at the same time cute, warm and fuzzy? I feel more excitement with Sul/Jung chemistry. Hopefully Sul will bring light to his darkness...lol!
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59 Tian
January 18, 2016 at 11:31 PM
What a manipulative bastard. Using other people weakness to get what he wants. He also punished "strange" people like he's without fault. I don't understand how this kind of character became main lead. Is bad the new good now?
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Den
January 18, 2016 at 11:47 PM
What "strange" people did he punish again? Reference please.
Are we even watching the same show? Is everything black and white? And I'm sorry but most kdrama leads since time immemorial have been "bad" one way or another. But what makes Yoo-jung different is he's that rare lead who's a more complex character, harder to read, but definitely more intriguing. In my book, that's main lead material. Also, If you've read the webtoon where this show was adapted from, then you'll maybe understand a little better his actions/motivations.
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whimsyful
January 19, 2016 at 1:36 AM
1) Seol. (Unless we're proven wrong) One year previously Jung manipulated others into harassing Seol, to the point where she considered dropping out, just because she gave him a weird look.
2) Joo-yong. Jung's punishment of Yoon-sub takes him along as collateral damage, even though Joo-yong (slacker and drunk he may be) has done nothing harmful to Jung or anyone else.
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lolalarue
January 19, 2016 at 1:47 AM
But Jung would see what he's doing as benefiting Joo Yong.
Seol is the kicker though, how much did he manipulate that situation? I can't wait to find out.
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Den
January 19, 2016 at 2:43 AM
I think that Jung didn't deliberately manipulate Seol's situation during their first year. He may have let things be (inaction on his part) that escalated the situation (bullying). I still don't know what his motivation was for changing his mind about Seol (maybe some incidents that were becoming harmful to her physical well-being) and I'd love to find that out in the show.
I think the main problem with Jung is that he instigates stuff for his eye-for-an-eye philosophy (SPOILER: which by the way is more subtle than it was when he was young because of something that Joo-yong told him) and once someone else got the ball rolling, he washes his hands off it and considers it debt paid or something.
Sera The Ms Temper
January 19, 2016 at 12:26 AM
Mind you language. We all have our own opinion, but word "bastard" is excessive to be used here.
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60 Lutisse
January 18, 2016 at 11:56 PM
Yoo Jung is a psychopath and many of them are around but inability to empathize is a clear signal.
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61 Sugus
January 19, 2016 at 12:37 AM
The bottom of all the chaos Yoo Jung created is that he's basically a spoiled brat, full stop. *kkkk
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Sera The Ms Temper
January 19, 2016 at 12:44 AM
In Ha and In Ho are both spoiled brat, not Yoo Jung.
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Sugus
January 19, 2016 at 12:56 AM
What I'm saying is, Yoo Jung wants everything work the way he wants. Isn't that some spoiled brat's doing? In case of In Ha, I say she's almost similar to Yoo Jung, only she does things in vulgar ways that people automatically loathes her.
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blueribbon
January 19, 2016 at 1:29 AM
In Ha is way and I mean way more spoiled than In Ho. At least In Ho tried to find a job and take care of himself but In ha well she manipulates people into giving her money so that she doesn't have to do anything.
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62 JJK
January 19, 2016 at 12:44 AM
So interesting. Sometimes I feel like I'm watching the drama version of Communication 101.
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montecarlo
January 19, 2016 at 5:53 AM
+1
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63 cupkate
January 19, 2016 at 12:47 AM
Okay, I don't know what to make of Yoo Jung anymore. Clearly, there's just something wrong with how he sees things but I'm confident that his character will take a turn eventually because of Seol. I'm also trying to figure him out but he is just so damn complex that I'm left with more questions than answers each episode. But that's exactly the appeal of this show I guess and I'm just a happy camper. And yay! I'm happy that girlfriday can join in on the fun after Reply 1988. Thank you for the recap.
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64 hotgimmik
January 19, 2016 at 12:56 AM
From reading the comments, it seems that people are bothered how some of the audience are having a "second lead syndrome" towards In Ho when apparently he is supposed to be the aggressive jerk as depicted in the webtoon.
I've read the webtoon here and there ...but for some reason, I just can't seem to assimilate the characters from the drama and the characters from the webtoon as the same group of people. I guess it might be because I read the webtoon rather late and after the drama had aired. So because of this, to me, In Ho in the drama comes off as a pretty decent/nice guy who is just trying to live his life without troubles but he simply cannot do that because there are too many misunderstandings in his life. He just seems to fit the mold of the second guy who is the "nicer" one whom the female lead can communicate with and establish a common ground with.
There were some really sweet scenes between In Ho and Seol as well. For example, Seol would be walking home and he would grab her book bag and though they'd bicker here and there, the way they walk next to each other and how they sometimes bump into each other as they walk so closely...just looks and feels so natural...like close friends or more. There were also those scenes where they made paper planes and he made her laugh, and today's episode, he got those notes from the teacher for her. Naturally, because I didn't really read the webtoon...In Ho comes off very nice...but I guess all of this is just a facade.
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65 EunSong
January 19, 2016 at 12:56 AM
I love this show. It's the first where it's driving me crazy to wait a week for the next installments. I watch it in Korean on YouTube (I understand about 90%) and then re-watch when my app gets it subtitled (for clarifications).
And I come to this site to see what other people think. These are great recaps and comments.
So a few things....
I was worried that I'm the only one who doesn't like Seul with In Ho.
Frankly, In Ho annoys me. He calls her Dog Fur and mooches food and is loud and well, I'd have kicked him in the shins a long time ago. I can see his charm (he's loud enough that she hears the message about sticking up for herself [which, btw, Yoo Jung had already said but not in a way she understood], etc) and he doesn't seem like a bad guy but I personally find him obnoxiously pushy and boisterous. To me, someone like that is a great friend but not necessarily your other half.
Frankly, I think Yoo Jung is a great character. I like Seul a lot too but YJ has me hooked to the show. As far as the lack of empathy, while it can be a sign of a psychopath, a lot of autistic people also have that trait. They also tend to see things in black and white. So combined with YJ's perfectionism, his hobbies and a few other cues, I tend to see him as having difficulty with empathy for a reason like that. But with room to grow as we can see in his interactions with Seul.
On the other hand, the last 5 mins had me very worried. Frankly, I was getting a little bored with the earlier stuff but was completely riveted by the end. That last statement (that he is not strange) was uh, chilling.
All in all, I can't wait for my next Cheese fix...I want to see the character development. IMO, YJ can still go either way. Clearly, he's a very bad enemy to have and you just wonder if he will go too far one day.
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66 Mia
January 19, 2016 at 12:59 AM
Gosh, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I was beginning to ask what was wrong with me... (With regard to Jung and his actions.)
The question of empathy is interesting. The guy who dropped some student's (Seol's) course didn't feel any empathy for the person whose schedule he was about to mess up. He was afraid of failing, alright. But what does another student have to do with that? (Moreover, he doesn't even do his homework when given an opportunity.) A moment of weakness? Sure. Yet, no empathy.
The guy who got girls drunk and led them to a room in a motel didn't have any empathy either. He did what he wanted to, and I, for one, was happy Jung said to him what he did.
The TA didn't have any empathy for the person whose money he was stealing. He's not poor, he's not starving, so he wasn't exactly in a critical situation, and why does someone else have to pay for your pathetic boyfriend? (Does the guy even work? Seol does.)
The girl who was jealous didn't have any empathy for Seol, sending the homeless man to her study room. (And just like the TA, when recounting her story, she did conceal a piece of info, which did alter the overall portrait of Jung in that situation.)
I'm not exactly rooting for his methods, but at the same time I do get where he's coming from. And I like that he's no Go Jun Pyo, or any other similar character, whom I despise. In fact, I think In Ho is closer to what I would expect from a usual male lead in a kdrama.
A truly interesting character. I'm not falling in love with him, but I'm not rejecting him either, and it's a curious feeling.
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67 Livii
January 19, 2016 at 1:01 AM
Oh my, for one hour this drama transports me to a whole new world. I see and feel things right along with these characters.
On my feels about the characters:
Jung- In the webtoon, I really couldnt stand him. He was creepy, he was manipulative, he made me feel every negative emotion I can think of. On the page, I couldnt wait for her to get away from him. His character just read so cold. Nearly all his actions felt orchestrated and designed to make her closer to him, which is why I just couldnt let go of that uneasy feeling. But onscreen, maybe its PHJ's magic, but Im getting to see different facets of him. I was so sick of his pokerface in the comic.
And on their relationship, wow, Sul's really got a tough one on her hands for her 1st one. I can see how she will be the window from which YJ will observe people and relationships and could change. But honestly, shouldering all that attention and expectation from someone who treats others with such barely concealed disdain, it makes me uncomfortable. As someone said before, hes an interesting character to observe, but irl, I'd stay far away.
The show is catching up till how far I read in the webtoon, so interesting to see where it goes from here.
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68 ehemm
January 19, 2016 at 1:06 AM
I'm seeing some part of me in Jung.
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blueribbon
January 19, 2016 at 1:32 AM
I agree I can be like that sometimes too. I don't manipulate people but if you ever did something wrong and Karma gets you well that is your problem and you are paying for your mistakes.
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69 EunSong
January 19, 2016 at 1:12 AM
This show reminds me of something a Sunbae of mine once said.
That she doesn't really see ppl as bad or good but that everyone is a mixture of both dark and light.
I still think if the majority of your choices are bad ones (especially if they're for your benefit at the cost of others) and your intentions are also bad, I would consider you a bad person. Still, it's true that most ppl are a mix of both and also true that even bad ppl can do good sometimes just as good ppl can do bad things sometimes.
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70 ebay
January 19, 2016 at 1:21 AM
Thanks GF!
Jung's phone wallpaper is their couple photo! I love it! He really likes Seol... though he acts weird, scary and strange at times. But in episode 5, we see him in different light! Love is changing him! And I’m actually scared that he is falling for Seol yet Seol has this argument in her head whether to trust or not Jung. And later, what if Jung did to Seol what he's been doing to others... to get even with what he gave... scary!
Actually, I’m still puzzled, how Seol likes Jung... I mean, he knows he's strange... then she just agreed to date! ...Ok, I know, Jung is hot! But, something is wrong. Negative attracts?!? If she'll date In-Ho, I’ll understand because she acts different to both guys. She is herself with In-Ho and not with Jung. ........it's ok Seol, I'll take Jung! Ha!
Anyway, thanks cheese for coming after parting with R88! Just on time! Forget the past and move on!
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lolalarue
January 19, 2016 at 1:51 AM
It would make sense that she might be afraid to say no, but I really don't think that's the case. I think she is drawn to him but her instincts/ head are giving her warning signs.
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ebay
January 19, 2016 at 5:08 AM
Probably, but they are still cute together aren't they!
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71 saranga
January 19, 2016 at 1:37 AM
i actually thought seol might have been more understanding about why he gave up the scholarship for her (cause he liked her and wanted to make things a bit easier for her). i thought yoo-jung had every right to be furious at yoon-sub. and what he did wasn't so terrible, and not something we haven't seen other kdramaland characters do—doing something nice for someone by using a weakness against someone who could make that nice thing happen. especially if that weakness was something that person had done wrong.
i mean, it's not an ideal way to make things happen, but the only reason it seems worse here is that jung has this intense cold streak in him, and he does this habitually. tit for tat.
i don't know, is it bad that i can relate to jung and his anger in that scene? and his thing for tit for tat? it's not like he himself does anything wrong—he just tries to right the wrongs around him. like how he tries to give in-ha a chance to get her life in order. he doesn't go about it in an ideal way, but he still tries to be fair. it's just his way.
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72 blueribbon
January 19, 2016 at 1:44 AM
Some people are asking themselves how a character like YJ became the main character of the show. But let me tell you YJ is a very realistic character as you are more likely to encounter people like that in the real world than the cookie cutter leads from other dramas.
YJ character is a very human character, actually all the characters in this drama can be very human, because let's be sincere there is no such thing as a total "normal" human, we are all crazy in our own way.
In the real world you will encounter people who will blame the whole world for their misfortunes, people who will try to manipulate you to get things to go in a way that will benefit them, people who will doubt you and judge you for your actions even if that is not the way you meant them, people who will always judge you for your first impression, ect. ect.
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73 lindl
January 19, 2016 at 2:01 AM
Loved this episode. Watched this on office wifi, couldn't wait. Kept having to pause it because I got overwhelmed. So many feels!
I loved all the parts where Seol and Jung were together, whether it was by themselves or with other people.
I have no sympathy for Jung's "victims." They all did bad things, and I think an argument could be made that they're bad people, not just people who happened to do bad things. Joo Yeon, for example, kept actively choosing to harm Seol, time after time. And rape is no joke. No way I'd sympathize with a rapist over Jung.
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74 Eun Song
January 19, 2016 at 2:08 AM
Blueribbon, I agree entirely.
Also, Idk why my reply button doesn't work. It turns blue but I can't reply with it :(.
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75 erwinia
January 19, 2016 at 5:07 AM
Awww...Yoo Jung ah. What am I do with you? You put on such a complex, calculative, capricious, indifferent facade but yet you cracked so easily when someone reveal a glimpse of who you truly are. What happened to you? At the last scene, it feel like you are crying for Seol...for her understanding, for her to see who truly are.
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76 bluefoureyes
January 19, 2016 at 5:18 AM
This is strangely enjoyable, or is it enjoyably strange?
Thanks for the recap!!!!
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77 Sunny2001
January 19, 2016 at 5:19 AM
Girlfriday thank you for doing this show too !!! I'm super excited for this one ! I just started watching it when ep 4 came out even tho I've been reading the webtoon. Tbh I'm just glad that even tho there is a love triangle I won't be mad about who she ends up with (so CITT thank you for not torturing me and casting the two guys so amazingly that they both have such amazing chemestry with the main female lead!).
But what really worries me is the fact she acts completely different around Inho and around Jung .. I like her with Jung but they get so awkward around eachother and she's always rethinking her decisions around him.
With Inho shes IMHO her true self, even though she met him after Jung they just look so cute (the rain scene where they are running fighting over who's gonna get to the shop first is the cutest scene in this entire drama so far, again IMO). I hope that if the writers are gonna make her be with Jung till the end they will at least make her act more like herself and not so awkward all the time.
Also i just want to talk about Seol. She's so amazing right?? Probably the first female lead in a drama that I can relate to so much, i just love her! They way she stood up for herself and didnt let Jung tell her who she can or cannot talk, I'm so proud of her! You go Seol! Tbh I was screaming Girl Power !! during that scene in the rain with Jung. Also that scene where Jung kinda saves her from the motorbike is kinda skatchy .. I know it's supposed to be funny and i did laugh, but the way she just kinda jumped off of him.. it does make you think.
Anyway! I'm so excited for ep 6. Fighting girlfriday!
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78 montecarlo
January 19, 2016 at 5:49 AM
Now I'm always waiting for the dreaded Monday. Oh what this show has been doing to me?
I like that Seol is an independent girl, wouldn't want to be controlled. I mean, now that he is a boyfriend, he wants to control her? Then he isn't worth the time.
Yoo Jung, he is scary, but I fell for him on the scenes with Seol, how he is so gentle towards her. Now I'm just contradicting myself. He is one complicated character. And I can't wait for more episode.
Also the plot is going so fast that I feel like episode 5 is rushing the pace, something that wasn't really happening in the previous episodes.
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79 CaroleMcDonnell
January 19, 2016 at 5:56 AM
I'm seriously disliking the "put up with the weirdness of a guy because he's growing up and learning to be human" trope. It sets folks up to always give folks the benefit of the doubt. And knowing kdramas, all this weirdness will be forgiven. I'm having such a battle now with the kdrama forgiveness arcs and this drama is a real battle for me. Thanks for the recap. This isn't a drama I can sit through. It's just so infuriating to actually watch.
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80 sweetasuga
January 19, 2016 at 9:20 AM
Honestly I am loving this drama. As usual I am falling for the second lead but like in all Kdramas I assume In Ho won't get the girl or a happy ending.
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81 Gillian
January 19, 2016 at 9:22 AM
I find it disappointing but unsurprising that everyone is being oh so sympathetic to Yoo Jung. I would understand being empathetic to the mindset he has, but it's a shame that so many comments are abound JUSTIFYING that mindset.
Yoo Jung was close to physically assaulting TA Heo for telling Seol something she should have known in the first place. Seol herself states that Yoo Jung deliberately allows things to be misconstrued, but this happens even more so when it's to his favour.
Even just taking in the situation with the drunk old man, Yoo Jung is an astute enough social player to know that he looks better to Seol if he appears to be concerned for Seol's injury without knowing the situation but he's also testing her to see if she will tell him the truth. He tests her again with Baek In Ho, and when she fails to tell him, he gets mad at her for hanging out with him and never mentions that he knew this would be a possibility the whole time. Like, WTF? She's pissed off enough about him being controlling, imagine if she knew he had known all along!
Yoo Jung clearly knows that Seol won't gladly accept the scholarship for whatever reason, so he deliberately never mentions it. Since he knows this and doesn't want to accept the blame - the same way he directs the blame to Seol when she brings up him taking care of her injury - he throws the blame onto TA Heo instead of trying to work out WHY she was so angry.
This childish attitude is highlighted by the way PHJ acts while texting Seol, far more childlike than how he looks generally. I do find this a bit problematic because it may be sending signals to viewers that she makes him more ~innocent~, when in fact psychopaths share a lot in common with kids. You can't diagnose teenagers or children with psychopath-related disorders because their criteria overlaps with the immaturity of the age. Black-and-white views of the world tend to grey out with experience, but Yoo Jung has been both isolated by his privilege and [a spoiler!], so it makes sense, but his manipulations are what distinguish him from being faultless. He knows the nature of what he is doing, and he knows - even if he disagrees - that it would be construed as wrong by the person for whom he did it. I also do think that his SES (and charm and good looks) position affords him comfort and that he won't leave it unless highly motivated, which Seol seems to present as at the moment.
In any case, I can see why people are far more sympathetic to drama!Yoo Jung. They've taken out one of the more important character establishments for him from S1 - although the next episode will tell if they're going to go there with Younggon, but I doubt it this far in - and the drama has a tendency of emotional manipulation through the use of cutsey indie music for situations that aren't all that cutsey. Which, to me, is a good majority of the show.
I just hope the show doesn't go far enough for the concluding statement on Yoo...
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82 Chandler
January 19, 2016 at 9:35 AM
Ahhh, I'm enjoying it so much. It's really capturing the best of the webtoon, speeding things up just enough, but not too much. The portrayals of the characters & the directing are all causing me to fall even more in love with the drama than I did with the webtoon. I'm loving the chemistry between the lead actors and all the cast members so much.
I thought this episode perfectly balanced the oddly adorable chemistry and growing relationship between Yoo Jung and Seol, with the obvious obstacles they face as a couple, what with his Machiavellian tendencies. I personally love watching a character so distanced from people finding someone he really wants a connection with. He may be lacking in empathy when it comes to understanding people, but his feelings for Seol open him up to a kind of vulnerability that fascinates me as a viewer. Seol is Yoo Jung's one point of genuine connection with the world and that just gets me right in the heart. Even with all the shit he pulls, I can never quite bring myself to dislike him or to stop rooting for him. It's part of what made me love the webtoon so much, and now I've fallen for the drama, as well.
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83 Ann
January 19, 2016 at 9:52 AM
Aspergers. On autism spectrum. Everything is black and white, rules should be followed, socially awkward, difficulty understanding humor or social cues. We aren't all natural golfers, let's say, but if we want to we can build skills and learn the game. That's the way social skills and seeing things from someone else's perspective are for folks with Aspergers. It's not all natural, but can be figured out with the right help. That's what I think is going on. No evil intentions from Jung.
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Val
January 19, 2016 at 11:14 PM
I disagree. People with Aspergers and ASD are able to empathize but don't necessary know how to show it. They can't fully gasp humor or social cues and can appear to be cold and detached. From the surface, Jung appears completely normal and commits shallow acts that suggest empathy and a full grasp on humor and social cues.
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petra
January 20, 2016 at 3:15 AM
Not clear on why you disagree or what you disagree on? O.o
My family members are on the spectrum and they've been taught to appear normal. Charming even.
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84 BA
January 19, 2016 at 10:15 AM
I think Jung has a mild Autism hence why he has no empathy and sees all acts as black/white, no inbetween. But he is changing....I love it.
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85 dazzlerflower
January 19, 2016 at 10:15 AM
Btw, I dont know if this will help or if it applies to the drama as well, but according to the webtoon, the money/card that TA Heo stole was Jung's... But then again, it might be modified in the drama. Hope this'll help in figuring out Jung's personality(?)
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86 CC
January 19, 2016 at 10:34 AM
I think I am the only person on here who may agree with Jung's actions. I think everyone else is in the wrong not him. Why should he try to be in their shoes? Did any of the people who he blackmailed in some way or another, ever put themselves in the people they were hurting shoes?? Nope, none did. If anything, I think the people he blackmailed are the truly cruel and mean ones here.
I can see why Seol was not too happy about the scholarship thing-- considering that at that point in time they didn't really know each other. Also, she keeps getting the backlash from all the people he blackmails because she is the only person they can reach and hurt. Soon he will realize that he is indirectly hurting her by upsetting all those other people.
No doubt he is scary but I love his character even more-- he so simple minded and there is no room for crap. You do him wrong he will get you where it hurts. Don't be an a-s-s and do the right thing. The only thing that I do worry is that he has this god like stance over everyone and I hope he tones it down with Seol because she really won't like him for it. Which bring the true question - Why does Seol like Jung? I mean Jung may like Seol because she is clean and doesn't do any wrongs for selfish reasons. She saw through him and owed him nothing to see it. But why does she like him? She said it herself that there was something odd and almost sinister about him. She wanted to quit school because of him! So why the change of heart? Maybe Iam missing something but I don't think it could only be because he was being nice and she misread him. Could it be guilt and not actual likeness that the is feeling??
Awesome drama- wish there was more psychological dramas like this!!
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petra
January 20, 2016 at 3:31 AM
Maybe she likes him because he is an enigma? She's a thinker and likes to analyze, so I can see her falling for a guy who is not simple.
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87 lifoser
January 19, 2016 at 10:43 AM
So happy that this drama is getting high ratings (for a cable drama that is) and awesome reviews by everyone!! I mean it's park hae jin, he can't do wrong!!!
Well everyone kept asking during the promos, "what is his dark side" "why do they say that he is hiding his dark side" well here you go everyone!! This is yoo jung, the most intriguing and unreadable character in recent drama history!! But i luuuuuuuv him and luuuuuuv him so much more when he is with seol!
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88 Aqilah
January 19, 2016 at 10:44 AM
When I watch this drama I feel like I understand why arranged marriages work. Cause seol and in-ho have great chemistry and are very natural. This represents a normal relationship where you infatuated from the beginning. But for Seol and Jung it feels like an arranged marriage, their chemistry is lacking, their still very awkward with each other, they don't fully trust one another, but because they're in this situation, they have to learn to understand one another, and learn to love each other. I have a feeling that because they are already going through all the bumps and obstacles in the beginning, in the end they're relationship will filled with so much understanding and respect for one another. Most relationships start off full of magic and fairy dust and only later on do the couple start to find all the things they cant stand about one another and all the problems hidden under the surface but since Seol and Jung's relationship is like an arranged marriage, they're already dealing with all these problems cause their goal is to actually love each other whole-heartedly.
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KK
January 19, 2016 at 12:18 PM
Awkward doesn't necessarily mean lack of chemistry. Seol is comfortable with In-Ho in my opinion because she DOESN'T view him romantically. At all. She's not infatuated with In-Ho, and he's not really infatuated with her out of solely pure intentions. He's developing feelings for her, but they've only ever given me a friend vibe. I know they are most likely setting up a love triangle, but there's nothing that tells me Seol cares about In-Ho beyond a friend.
Seol is already an anxious person and over-analyzes a lot. Someone like that who's never dated will for sure be awkward around the person they like or have feelings for. Did you spot how she was fiddling with her blanket on the phone with Jung? Those little details where she's alone and clearly not uncomfortable are really important to me. I used to do the same while texting the guy I liked, and funnily enough, he thought I hated him because I always seemed to avoid him at school lol. What is going to help Seol is finding out exactly why and when Jung started liking her.
And this comes to your point about why they will work well as a couple in the long run if they grow to trust and learn to understand each other! I absolutely agree with that.
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petra
January 20, 2016 at 3:21 AM
So glad someone pointed this out.
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89 Abbie
January 19, 2016 at 10:55 AM
So was the scholarship Jung's or Yoon-sub's? I'm confused on that. The rest is still so good and addicting. I'm curious about Jung, still. He's actually the most compelling aspect of the show foe me and what keeps bringing me back. He's scary and sweet too and that kind of dichotomy is so interesting. I can't wait to find out more about him!
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cindy
January 19, 2016 at 2:13 PM
It was jung, because he has the top grades, he was going to get it. But he is rich and Seol has the second top grades... so he asked a favor to drop his grades.
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90 Nat
January 19, 2016 at 11:51 AM
Thanks for the review! I really enjoyed this episode because it finally gave some insight into Jung's character. He truly does lack empathy, but I think even more now that it's the result of the environment he grew up in. He's not an evil or malicious person, he just has a certain way of viewing people that we don't think is necessarily socially acceptable. But his actions are all logical the way I see it.
Also, some people mentioned Jung being a liar. I don't recall him ever lying about anything though. Being manipulative? Yes, for sure. Lying? Not so much, maybe I missed it.
I'm glad Seoul finally spoke up this episode and didn't just internalize her feelings when it comes to Jung. I like the way they're working through their relationship and getting to understand each other. It's definitely not the usual, but I really like it. Looking forward to more episodes!
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91 aly
January 19, 2016 at 1:21 PM
at this point i cant even find a redeemable quality about yoo jung and people softening towards him. what exactly for? hes manipulative and scary. if she ever does anything to really hurt him she's not safe from him either. there's nothing romantic about this. when you yourself would run if you encountered someone like him shouldn't you think the same for her. he's displaying some very scary qualities and just because he likes her, or whatever he feels, doesn't make him redeemable. i don't know where the show is going with his character but he's getting darker and darker. i just want her to find out the whole truth behind him and then decide for herself.
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kikidee
January 19, 2016 at 3:35 PM
Agree! As I've been watching this, I feel like I keep waiting for them to present Jung as a romantic figure, but they keep giving me a guy who shows sociopathic tendencies. I'm not sure if it's purposeful or not. It seems like it must be. I don't think, as an audience, we're supposed to be comfortable with him as a person, and it's working.
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92 Jade
January 19, 2016 at 2:35 PM
I really think she should end up with inho....
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93 rachel
January 19, 2016 at 2:54 PM
I am not gonna call him evil, but he is definitely manipulative. Instead of reporting people for their wrongdoings and looking like a "snitch", he holds it over them.
He has his own little understanding about what is right and wrong. Not sure if anyone mentioned this but perhaps he has Asperger's or something? The lack of empathy is a problem. But people with Aspergers, although sometimes have difficulty in relationships and communicating. they don't usually end up manipulating and power tripping.
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Val
January 19, 2016 at 11:05 PM
Nope, definitely not Aspergers. People with ASD do not have any problems with relationships and empathy and only have problems associated with communication.
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94 kikidee
January 19, 2016 at 3:24 PM
I mean, I don't know what the show wants me to think of Jung. He's very good at acting like a pleasant, kind person, but it's a performance. He does whatever he deems necessary to achieve something, and he genuinely doesn't seem to think about or care how it affects others. That's sociopathic behavior.
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95 dramadreamer
January 19, 2016 at 6:12 PM
I haven't read the webtoon but I suspect that the landlady's grandson was the one who planted the underwear in Joo Yung's room. Neither JY nor TS are panty thieves. And the landlady's grandson is obviously a no gooder who is homophobic and mischief maker. bet there will be a rescue scene later when he harasses Seol.
Jung is the most interesting character I've come across in a long time in k dramas!
It's obvious that Jung is infatuated with Seol. He really likes her and it's touching to see how he tries constantly not to upset her. However, his superiority and godlike complex makes her feel that he is controlling and distant. However, he also gives up and cuts off people when they let him down.
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96 dramadreamer
January 19, 2016 at 6:31 PM
The range of normality in human psychology and behaviour is very wide, if we come down to it, about a fair percentage of the population probably has some dysfunction or psychological disorder . it's just a matter of degree. With Jung, he has his own sense of justice and has a cold demeanour - coupled with his perfect life - it makes him an obvious target for haters esp in college. you either take him as he is or try not to cross his path. Seol has to decide whether to try to understand and accept him or walk away. Jung never forced her into this relationship! If she had said "no' when he first asked her, Jung would have let her go.
It's actually funny how Jung approached his interest in Seol . Most people get to know the person before dating. But Jung has decided to date the person to get to know more about her! No wonder the 2 are feeling so awkward around each other! Jung is his usual clinical, take no prisoners self - mapping out his mission to date Seol like another class project.
I dun find Jung weird really. His lack of empathy is not something he can help. He can only use his superior logic to try to feel something for others - which in itself is so ironic!
If you really want to see Jung as a psychopath - watch him in "bad guys". he nailed the psychopath role there. he had everyone guessing almost up the end.
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97 earthna
January 19, 2016 at 8:00 PM
When he said, "Seol-ah, I'm not strange." in the end, I felt like he was talking to the viewers and I felt guilty in a way. Whatever's going through Seol's mind is exactly what's going in mine. I find myself getting emotionally played by Jung. I'm so freaking scared of him right now but every time he does something sweet, I swoon.
I so agree with you, girlfriday. It's so hard for my heart every time In-ho appears on screen. Can't help myself but think what if it's just him and Seol? She'd probably be happier and live a more normal life but then what happens to Jung? Seol seems like a life line to him right now. Ugh. This show is driving me crazy.
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98 wackycashew
January 19, 2016 at 8:55 PM
Thanks for the recap, GF!
This series sure is fast-paced and I guess that's due to the wealth of source material for the plot.
I like how Seol is speaking her mind more in the ep to let Jung know her honest feelings. It's about time to open up the communication channels. I find Jung cute and sweet at times but strange and scary most times. He's so cold and manipulative and emotionless in addition to being apathetic and having everything so black and white... I hope that by spending more time with Seol, Jung will realize that the world isn't quite the way he perceives it and to develop some emotions and socialable behaviour.
Inho is always a straightarrow and I like that about him. So, we get a glimpse of his childhood with Inha when they were abused by their aunt. I can't believe Inha played the guilt card to get money. =.=
Knew that landlord's grandson was shady... But man, planting all that underwear to pin the blame on Joo Yong... Grrrrr!
Love Bora and Euntaek!
Anyway, looking forward to the next ep.
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99 Val
January 19, 2016 at 11:03 PM
I really really hate myself for staying this, considering how complex Jung's character is and his feelings for Seol, but I can't shake off the idea of him being a psychopath. It is normal behavior to see an injured body and empathize and feel distraught by it. Jung felt none of that, which is something that is distinct about psychopaths according to one of the many articles being published on the subject recently. Instead of feeling pain, fear, or sadness, psychopaths feel calmed by blood. He failed to understand the anxiety that Seol and Bora felt but was fully able to anticipate their responses. His actions seem to overly manipulative in that he was willing to push the boundaries of acceptable behavior to get to his end means -- by pressuring the TA and manipulating/exploiting the situation, he was able to continue with the "fun". Even when discovered and questioned about his methods, he manipulates his way out of the situation I honestly think that Jung seens Seol as a source of amusement at this point. I don't see Jung as a sociopath; from all indications, he had a stable childhood. He is also always in control (sociopaths tend to be more prone to outbursts).
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100 pandafats
January 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM
I felt like bora's acting wasn't really convincing in the scene where she was in the hospital but oh man she and euntaek are such cuties ><
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