Open Thread #422

1 mary

November 20, 2015 at 6:09 AM

(Huh? OT is still empty)

Song Jae Rim, marry me.

Hello Everyone and Happy Weekend!

What I'm Watching... sort of...
*** SPOILERS ***

Bubblegum- After all the lovely heart-to-heart and truthful conversations, I'm now afraid after Episode 8, we're going to get all kinds of secret-keeping between our OTP (which the other party knows anyway) and the idiocy of protecting people who don't need protecting. For a show called Bubblegum the subjects being dealt with are not at all bright and colourful like bubblegum. I'm still being puzzled somewhat by the title... but the real bubblegum appearance in Ep 8 gave me pause... surely that is not the reason for the title, is it? It isn't surely!!! Errr... cringe???

Other than that, this turned out to be a better character and relationship development story than expected and at this stage I can still recommend it. We'll see after another 2 episodes.

Oh My Venus - I had no chance to watch Episode 1 but I was able to jump into Episode 2 after reading something of the recap. So they've managed to engineer many occasions for our OTP to be together which makes their coming together more likely... which is nice. I rather wish that we just had the OTP story with the losing weight for health purposes or something simple and that we could jettison great-grandma, dad and 2nd leads. Surely by now there can be other ways to add conflict other than with difficult elders and bitchy 'frenemies'. The side character friends however are keepers... let's get them all together and have more ma'am or noona and dongsaeng friendships!

High-end Crush- *** SPOILERS definitely ***
Speaking of jettisoning everything, the 2nd of this 15-minute per episode web drama seems to be doing mainly that. I mean jettisoning story even ... just giving us mostly OTP moments. I had a hard time trying to read subs for Ep 1 (the not very good English was laid over the still visible Chinese subs and flashed by too quickly to read fully!) and decided to brave Ep 2 without subs. What I gathered from my limited understanding is that there was nothing added to the story and several tropes were contrived so that our OTP do nothing much else except argue, throw daggers with their eyes and have quite a lot of skinship. Let's see ... there was the incident of accidentally seeing nekkidness, many wrist grabs that resulted in guy getting knocked out, a chase scene and hug ... quite a bit to satisfy die-hard 'romance-trope' lovers and this is just Ep 2. One wonders what else they will pile on.

You may try the webdrama called “Noble, My Love”… It is a bit silly/not coherent sometimes (like what a perfect lovestory in a teenage girl's imagination could look like), but it is still a nice (and short) watch. The male lead is the one who plays SJS's fighter friend in “Oh My Venus”. And it's completely subbed already.

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Alessar

November 20, 2015 at 9:59 AM

I've not heard of that one, I'll try to look it up. Thanks!

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pogo

November 20, 2015 at 7:18 AM

Your description of that web drama has me cracking up - most web dramas I've seen tend to be very short on plot, and some are literally just two scenes long before they cut to the 'cliffhanger', ha.

I’ve to admit I can be unreasonably petty-minded when watching drama. My disdain for characters who committed spiteful acts against my drama hero/heroine can easily be blown out of proportion. While watching Baker King Kim Tak Gu, I harboured a strong resentment against Ma Jun (Joo Won) due to the pain he inflicted upon innocent and trusting TG (Yoon Shi-Yoon) time and again. He was wilfully scornful and jealous of his half-brother, callously snatched away his first love, and caused him to be poisoned. Obviously, I must have liked YSY lots to have developed such a strong resentment against JW. I was also unimpressed that JW out-performed YSY. YSY probably made the wrong choice going down the flower boy path, while JW’s path to stardom has been comparatively smooth.

So I boycotted JW’s drama, with the only exception of Good Doctor. He was actually very likable in it and just when I thought my resentment against him was long overdue, Yong Pal started screening halfway through almighty oppa's SWWTN and stole all the limelight away. Ouch! How dare he!! Instantly, the impetuous teenager in me switched into automatic defence mode and started to badmouth JW like the way Shi-Won always did so vehemently in defence of her Tony oppa in Reply 1997.

Forget about Yong Pal, forget about Gaksital too, but I just could not strike Cantabile Tomorrow off my drama-to-watch list. It is a remake of jdrama Nodame Cantabile which I enjoyed tremendously. My curiosity drove me to watch CT and it was fun to nitpick JW as he would have to be damn good to surpass Tamaki Hiroshi’s portrayal of Shinichi in NC.

For a start, Shim Eun-kyung does not fit my expectation of Nae-Il, a quirkily cute and gifted pianist in the making. Ueno Juri is truly kawaii, so she was able to bring out Nodame’s character quite naturally in NC. SEK is pretty no doubt, but she is not considered that cute. I find her quite pathetic at times, she did put in very good effort into the acting but tried way to hard just to appear pleasingly cute. Off-hand, I could not think of any k-actress which could do a better job here, perhaps someone like Audrey Tautou of Amelie would fit the bill. CT did a great job in filming aesthetics and background music with a good repertoire of orchestral pieces being depicted. Considering that NC sparked an unprecedented interest in classical music in Japan, I think CT did earnestly attempt to do likewise to introduce classical music to its viewers and is definitely a much better production than Beethoven Virus. Typical of KBS drama, it is more conservative, at least CT’s version of Maestro Milch appeared more decent than the comically sleazy NC version.

The no nonsense and serious Cha Yoo Jin required JW to carry a snooty look at times. Needless to say, he could deliver effortlessly as he already mastered that atrociously arrogant demeanour in BKKTG. To be fair, he did well in bringing out the mellow side of the character kept hidden under the disguise of...

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pebble

November 20, 2015 at 6:13 AM

nonchalance. I loved the scene in ep11 in which he consoled a nervy NI who freaked out before appearing on stage for her duet rehearsal. He was able to convey in a subtle manner the enormous depth of loving concern and patient understanding through a nod of his head, raising his eyebrows with a smile on his lips and the gentle look in his eyes. Lucky NI! How every girl must be yearning for such a brotherly ‘orabang’! Probably due to his musical acting, JW has great sense of music tempo which enabled him to deliver a convincing portrayal of an orchestra conductor. Much as I dislike him, I was attracted to his conducting. His tall built cladded in tuxedo commanded an amazingly majestic presence on stage in front of the orchestra when his hands swayed and swung in confident strokes to the music of Rachmanioff piano concerto no. 2 (one of my classical favourites!). His facial expression was solemn but bursting with gusto, it was remarkably superb. Ok fine, he has my standing ovation for that. He also presented an elegantly suave composure when playing the piano quite resembling pianist Lang Lang. I think the haughty character of YJ suited JW very well. Though his scornful smirk and stern grimace still irked me at times, I find myself liking YJ despite of my predisposed bias against JW. Compared with Tamaki Hiroshi’s portrayal in NC, I’ve to admit albeit reluctantly that I prefer JW as he was able to morph the two extreme sides of the character together more seamlessly. TH was not as annoying when he acted strict, he was also more subdued when he was being gentle. So JW has won me over big time, his acting was really decently good, no wonder he is doing so well not only on the small screen but also delivering an instant box-office hit.

If you like rom-com, you will want to watch CT, it is hilarious and heart-warming. NI was comically clingy while YJ was too haughtily shy to openly display his affection, but I really like the platonic love between them. NI’s admiration for YJ motivated her to soar to greater heights in order to keep up with his footsteps. YJ was her whole universe, she took great pains to help him overcome his fear of flying so that he could pursue his studies overseas. And YJ had NI’s genuine interest at heart, though he greatly cherished her talents and eagerly wanted her to succeed, he was not pushy but patiently guiding her to uncover her own talents at her own pace. Also, the camaraderie between members of the school orchestra was heartening, it brought back memories of my own high school days playing in the concert band. Supporting characters like Park Bo-gum, Go Kyung-pyo, etc. were all endearing too, overall CT does have lots to offer.

I’m currently watching Oh My Venus, SMA’s chubby lawyer character is refreshing, but SJS as chaebol heir feels like a repeat of the Master’s Sun version, it is below my expectation for now, but still quite fun to watch.

Have a great weekend beanies! :) 

Thanks elric, Manin & Gaeina for leaving your comment.

It is not easy to make an outstanding remake, apart from Boys Over Flowers which was considered a great success, recent kdrama remake like The Time We Are Not In Love and Fated To Love You are drawing flak. So when I unexpectedly uncover an awesomely good one, I feel so passionate about it that I had to respectfully do a decent write-up to give CT its due credit and to share with others.

Another thing worth mentioning is, I find the theme in recent k-drama strikingly disturbing in that high-powered adults are imposing their views on the younger generation to regard peers not as friends but competitors to be ruthlessly defeated in order to stand out and be successful. Sassy Go Go has this message amplified throughout and a similar reprimand from Yoo Jin’s successful pianist father also constantly haunted him in CT. This got me to reflect quite deeply on the aggressively competitive pressure everywhere, in school, at work, etc.

What constituted success and what is considered a great life? Nothing comes free, success has a big price tag too, it all depends on what we deemed important in life. I think many would agree that we can lead a carefree and happy life without being successful so long as we are contented with what we already have and not be envious of the have-not. For me, the simple pleasure of watching a great drama can leave me gleefully happy for days. Perhaps, it is by taking the time to pause and enjoy the simple things in life and being appreciative of family and friends around us that can truly make us happy.

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4 graey

November 20, 2015 at 6:12 AM

Happy OT! I just realized that I have been watching a lot of tw stuff haha. :)

My Old Classmate - A decent film with a cliche premise. That ending was great though. After the hour mark, things got better.

You Are The Apple Of My Eye - In the same vein as My Old Classmate but better. So much better. It's nothing new. But the old does hit you with more feels, eh? I loved both the romance and friendship. Kai ko was amazing as well as his chemistry with Michelle Chen and I love the gang. That ending rocks! I keep on rewatching it. "You don't expect returns from everything you do." Ugh. My heart is still crying for them. And it was a happy ending no matter what others may say. A really happy one(I swear, don't let my tears fool you T.T).

Cafe. Waiting. Love - I'm so glad I didn't run away after the first few minutes that had me going-wtf? Once, I accepted that this wasn't meant to be taken too seriously, it was fine. Still, it was weird, stranger than strange and silly(really silly) and, uh well, you get the point. Then it felt like Alice in Wonderland. The movie was fairly predictable but oh so cute(though the camerawork was dizzying and distracting in a lot of scenes). And to borrow our angel's words, "Sometimes it's very funny but when you look into it, it turns out to be very moving." And yay for Michelle Chen and 'Groin'(I still don't know his name) as cameos!

So Young - Not as good as I expected it to be.

I Am Sorry I Love You - Aww. It's ending tomorrow. It was pretty decent overall(ending might change my opinion). Pretty but doesn't pull my heartstrings. I mean my fave character, Zheng Nan, isn't even well-developed but my heart kinda hurts for her(having SLS for the second female lead). And If Jian Hao gets a HEA and Shu Hai doesn't, I will flip tables. Totally convinced that Shu shu and Pei pei are the main OTP of this show lol.

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Joleneey

November 20, 2015 at 7:08 AM

You should watch the TW movie recently released: "Our time". It is so heartwarming yet will leave you tearing at some parts!

I quite liked Cafe. Waiting. Love. too (though I too predicted at a certain point what was going on).

I have nothing good to say about So Young.

Need to watch You Are the Apple of My Eye!

If you want another Taiwanese film: When a Wolf Falls in Love with a Sheep (also with Kai). A rom-com. It's quirky (cute hand-drawn art inserted throughout the movie) and laugh-out-loud funny. I really enjoy that it's very focused on friendship, and you really feel that the two characters get each other.

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mox

November 21, 2015 at 5:37 PM

I know I'm super late to this OT thread, but YES! Second the motion for When A Wolf Falls in Love with a Sheep. So adorable, with quirky characters. And the film makes excellent use of stop motion!

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5 prettysup

November 20, 2015 at 6:14 AM

D-day Two more episodes left, really hope that Woo Jin can get back to the hospital as a doctor, but I think it is quite unlikely. Love the actor though, he is the best discovery I have gotten from watching this drama, haha..

The Merchant Gaekju This is getting exciting, I knew Bong Sam's sister wont die so easily! Love the torture scenes as well, exactly my cup of tea!

The village How many episodes left? Somehow it doesn't matter to me who is the murderer after all..

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john

November 20, 2015 at 6:36 AM

prettysup ~

I'm enjoying The Merchant. Need to watch Ep 17. Folks are missing a good show if they aren't watching this.

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Best Film: Ode to My Father

Best Supporting Actor: Ol Dal Su

Best Screenplay: Ode to My Father

Best Cinematography: Ode to My Father

Best New Actress: You Young Lee (Late Spring)

Best Supporting Actress: Kim Hae Seok (Ode to My Father)

Best Costume Design: The Royal Tailor

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7 WTF

November 20, 2015 at 6:28 AM

Do people type their comments up beforehand and then paste them here as soon as ths thread is up, after spamminf the F5 button?

That's the only conceivable way there's such long comments after hardly any time...

November 20, 2015 at 8:00 AM

yeah I don't really do it either. Although i did sometimes type up the kdrama toddlers stories simply because I wrote them by hand and so needed to type them up anyway. (sadly my saved document disappeared, will have to go through past OT's to find them all again).

especially, if you like to read. :)

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8 john

November 20, 2015 at 6:29 AM

Watching:

K dramas: Dazzling Temptation, Six Flying Dragons, Master Of Trade, Village , Awl and Answer Me 1988.

C Drama: Love Me If You Dare.

Enjoying Kim Min-Jung in MOT, Shin Se-Kyung in 6FD, Shin Eun-Kyung in Village and Hyeri in AM1988

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prettysup

November 20, 2015 at 6:34 AM

I am also impressed by Kim Min Jung in Master of Trade (The Merchant). First time I have seen this actress in a drama.

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john

November 20, 2015 at 7:39 AM

prettysup ~

I've seen her in two other dramas, Thorn Birds and Gap Dong.

I hated her character in Thorn Birds < (classic bitchy chaebol wench ), she was convincing.

Gap Dong was a disappointment, her acting was fine but the plot was a mess.

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kalel

November 20, 2015 at 10:17 AM

@John
She was given an amazing role in New Heart and she was great in it. I adored her in NH. If you like medical dramas, you should give it a try. The whole cast is fantastic.

I hated her in TB as well but she was not a chaebol in that one, just a poor orphan (given away by her own mother) into a foster family. I found her character to be the most complicated one in TB.

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pebble

November 20, 2015 at 3:45 PM

I hated her in TB too. She used to be an endearingly supportive friend of Jung-eun (Han Hye-jin) but everything changed when she was assaulted by a group of thugs which she blamed on Jun-eun. It is really unfortunate that sometimes unforeseen events in life could have such a destructive impact on a person’s character.

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shallala

November 20, 2015 at 7:19 AM

For me, Awl is the best show I have watched in a long time. I'm a bit heartbroken that it didn't get a recap slot, as reading recaps after I've watched the episodes is one of my favourite things to do.

November 20, 2015 at 8:00 AM

my favorite aspects to the answer me series are always the friendships. I miss a good friendship drama!

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CaroleMcDonnell

November 20, 2015 at 8:05 AM

I know what you mean. That was why i loved high school king so much. I was watching Sweet savage family and i thought, I love a good comedy about a family. Still not sure i'll try it though, since it looks as if the romances might be the focus.

November 21, 2015 at 1:56 AM

I think the husband wars generate more attention simply because it's more emotional on the viewers behalf. Unlike a lot of shows where you get second lead syndrome and know you will suffer, it's not the same in the answer me series. because the second lead might not be the second lead.

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john

November 20, 2015 at 8:05 AM

Carole ~

The writers are earning their money here. There are comedic moments as to be expected of the Answer Me series, but the real pay off is when they take a closer look at the families of the characters.

Don't be put off by it being a series.

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CaroleMcDonnell

November 20, 2015 at 8:29 AM

I'll try to watch. Promise. Thanks.

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pogo

November 20, 2015 at 7:10 AM

Someone much wiser than me once told me that you shouldn't live your life on a time table - there's no real point to feelings of 'I must do X by Y age or else I'm a failure'.

And really, 30 is still young, despite what the media and society like to suggest, we won't be shrivelled old crones at that age. There's still plenty of time to achieve things!

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shallala

November 20, 2015 at 7:17 AM

...

I'm not much into K-pop, but I saw tons of Changmin enlistment videos on instagram and... realised that the only thing I know about the guy is that the dramabeans-crowd believes him to be a bad actor.

It felt kind of cruel, really, so I decided to read up and listen up.

Got into Love Me If You Dare based on the beanies recommending it last OT. I'm really glad I checked it out. The previews for ep 13/14 look amazing...anxiously waiting! (Though I wish it had the same crack factor as Sassy wahhhh)

My week has been mixed - I've been feeling pretty down and I had a panic attack a few days ago. Don't know why - second time I'm getting one in two weeks (and never had them before). Maybe I'm psyching myself out too much about school/work... *sigh*

Chanelboy loves Jackson Wang A LOT

November 21, 2015 at 8:29 PM

I was a fan of him in really old days, like 2004 ishh??

He really a fine man. DROOL WORTHY TO MY LAST SALIVA. lol.

His old dramas I used to watch mostly TWnse :
Dolphin Bay : this one made him into stardom, he was a hot item that time haha.
100% Senorita, Westside Story, The Royal Swordsmen (WuXia drama), Chinese Paladin, etc.

Hello friends!!
Last friday i was so depressed, but you guys cheered me!
Thank you for the hugs and cheers, they were comforting:)

And sorry i couldn't thank you individually..am keeping busy. Not an excuse, but I HAVEN'T WATCHED BUBBLEGUM EP 4 onwards. And LDW is my first crush!! Now its HEALER~YA but first is a first.

Happy with the way life is going, i wanted to be busy so no complaints. Kdramas are life but my dreams are oxygen.

Not watching anything till dec, i only vote for jcw daily. Please do vote for him, google 'lets vote for jcw' voting station is site name:)

Take care,
Love ya!!

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November 20, 2015 at 7:58 AM

it's okay, nobody understands Scousers, not even them! (I say this with love, lol)

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Kween Ramyeon

November 21, 2015 at 5:28 PM

For learning Engiish, also try films like Pride and Prejudice, Merchant Ivory films, and TV shows like Downtown Abbey. Although the language is a little more formal and archaic, generally, you'll get good English without regional dialect or slang. If your English is such that you have some basic proficiency, then one good way improve is to watch it in English, with the English subtitles on. I find that helps me when I'm watching French films, so you start to tune your ear with the text, improving your pronunciation and vocabulary.

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growingbeautifully

November 20, 2015 at 7:29 AM

@ Stuckonyou
Yes, I agree with what's been suggested here... even listening to BBC Radio helps, as recommended by a Speech and Drama trainer. I think he took down phrases and practised speaking them aloud, imitating the way he heard them spoken.

Speaking in English to English speaking people definitely helps.

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November 20, 2015 at 8:27 AM

oh goodness, dancing Yeol.....well, he had to have one imperfection after all.

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dkaoru, GO GO!

November 20, 2015 at 10:56 PM

The whistling tune is Rely by Sol the Biz. It's a japanese song. In the show they played the instrumental bi - it's so catchy I've been humming it all week long.
I'm also suffering withdrawal symptoms - been watching six flying dragons and while I love that, I miss having something light and such positive energy from Sassy Go Go.

OMG I didn't re-watch Answer me 1997 but I re-read the recaps for it! hahahahaha because angry mom is too serious to re-watch and i don't know other drama with Crinkle eyes other than Moon embraces the sun. I can't watch that drama again.

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pogo

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Manin

November 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Pogo! *sends virtual hugs*

It's always sad when a favorite show ends. God thing is, you can now marathon it all at once! ... you might come to love a new one? .... [insert favorite break up cliche here]

I have new kdrama toddler stories? Well, kinda?

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pogo

November 20, 2015 at 8:25 AM

hey Manin! I know, it's always sad when a great show ends, but usually I'm happy to let go when I feel like it's told everything there was to tell.

November 20, 2015 at 7:06 AM

what's it about?

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Manin

November 20, 2015 at 8:15 AM

Ohh, I'll need to check it out! IF my internet lets me Problematic again. *grumbles*

How is Disguiser? Good? bad?

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Mama J

November 20, 2015 at 8:33 AM

I prefer Disguiser to NIF, actually - it gets going faster, the characters are more recent (Japanese occupied Shanghai in the late 30s/early 40s) and while the stakes are VERY HIGH in human terms...there's more opportunity for humor, too.

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Manin

November 20, 2015 at 9:10 AM

That sounds good. I'll put it on the never ending list. I've heard a lot of people talking about NIF but fewer talking about Disguiser.

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Jackeline

November 20, 2015 at 11:26 PM

Plot-wise, I feel like there's more going on in Disguiser. The first few episodes may be a bit confusing if you're not super versed in that part of Chinese history, in terms of who is on which side, but you understand better as the story unfolds. Amazing acting.

Honestly I personally prefer NIF just a liiittle more because I actually like the slower pace, but I highly recommend The Disguiser as well.

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john

November 20, 2015 at 8:16 AM

JoAnne ~

I've watched the first episode of Disguiser.

Is it just me or have the Chinese upped their game in the drama market ? Good writing, acting, production.

November 20, 2015 at 1:31 PM

I am watching it now and it's so good. I am not a big fan of Hu Ge but he is great in this drama.

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dkaoru, GO GO!

November 20, 2015 at 10:59 PM

I tried episode 1 for few min... I got confused with so many princes/kings? I only watch like the first 10 min.. the subs were bad (or they were speaking in ancient chinese with lots poetry therefore couldn't be translated into english?).
Maybe i'll give it another go, so many ppl has said good things about it..

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Jackeline

November 20, 2015 at 11:51 PM

I can give you a summary on the character relationships if you'd like.

There's the Liang Emperor and then 3 (+1) princes of importance:
- Crown Prince (taizi), Xiao Jing Xuan
- Prince Yu, Xiao Jing Huan
- Prince Jing, Xiao Jing Yan
- Prince Qi, Xiao Jing Yu (already dead at the beginning of the story)
(You'll notice the name after "Prince" is different from their given names, because that's just a title.)

The main character is Mei Chang Su, the leader of the Jiang Zuo Alliance. However, he's also the son of General Lin and was born as Lin Shu. Everyone thinks Lin Shu is dead, and this is explained later on in the drama.

General Lin was married to Grand Princess Jinyang, the sister of the Emperor, so that makes Mei Chang Su/Lin Shu the Emperor's nephew. Also, General Lin's sister Lin Le Yao was taken by the Emperor as a concubine (titled Consort Chen), and she was the mother of Prince Qi.

Lin Le Yao had a trusted attendant who was like a sister to her, and the Emperor also took her as a concubine, titled Consort Jing. Consort Jing is the mother to Prince Jing, and he and Mei Chang Su grew up together like brothers.

The Emperor's other sister, Grand Princess Liyang, is married to Xie Yu, an antagonist of the story. Their son, Xiao Jing Rui, is Mei Chang Su's friend.

The Crown Prince's mother is actually not the Empress, but rather a high-ranking concubine (ranked second to the Empress). Empress Yan adopted Prince Yu and treated him like her own son after his birth mother passed away. So there's the first power struggle there, between the Crown Prince and the Empress's (adopted) son.

Hope this clears up your preliminary confusion. xD I really advise you to keep on watching, though! Once you get a hang of the character relationships, it really is an amazing drama to watch.

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dkaoru, GO GO!

November 21, 2015 at 9:48 AM

thx v v vmuch for this! :)

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16 Alessar

November 20, 2015 at 7:24 AM

I'm not watching as many K-dramas as I'd like right now. But I am really enjoying The Village and Oh My Venus. Bubblegum didn't really catch me with the first few eps and I never did get around to starting D-Day or finishing Mrs. Cop or Hidden Identity. I caught the first episode of Sweet Savage Family and was extremely underwhelmed, it's not nearly as interesting as the trailers made it seem.

I am still loving I'm Sorry I Love You (aka My Ghost Friend) the T-drama but I think it's down to about 2 episodes left. I started the Chinese series Wu Xin the Monster Killer and I like it.

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18 joykim

November 20, 2015 at 7:36 AM

Thank you OT-ers for introducing LOVE ME IF YOU DARE. Wow! I marathoned 10 eps in 1 nite! This seriously beats all 2015 kdramas for me. If you like I REMEMBER YOU, then LMIYD is even better with the perfect balance of mystery, chemistry, romance, humour and super smexylicious male lead.

Any other Cdrama recommendation of similar calibre? Would like something to satiate my addiction in between waiting for more LMIYD during this kdrama slump year.

will try. wow! Love me if you dare, merchant, and reply... my week will be full. thanks.

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redfox

November 20, 2015 at 9:30 AM

wouldnt say it is better than I Remember You. It often spends time on useless scenes and doesnt keep you on the edge just as intensely. will you be my assistant? yes? no? Ye? No? all that was really excess

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paroles

November 20, 2015 at 10:22 AM

That's how Korean dramas work too. The repetitive lines. For example,

W: Would you like to be my assistant?

M: Did you ask if I would like to be your assistant?

W: Yes, I did.

M: Would I like to become your assistant?

W: Exactly.

M: I... I...

W: Yes?

M: I...

W: No?

M: Yes.

W: So you are going to become my assistant now.

Lol.

Hi there, fellow beanies:

Achiara: After this drama ends, I'll have to marathon to see if clues were laid out along the way. Am glad romance isn't being forced on our heroine. So far, the only truly loving male-female relationships we see are the relationships between pharmacist and art teacher and carpenter ahjussi and wife..folks who have left town and returned... even if those relationships have some weird tension going on. Am still not sure pharmacist and art teacher are lovers and not blood-related somehow...aunt/nephew? Am still unsure if carpenter is the rapist. But small-town Achiara has a serial killer, a regular murderer, a rapist. Mendel genetics: who has the psychic gene? Who has the Fabry gene? Love that "new" evidence and theories are often overturned in ensuing episodes. But that music; a bit florid.

Sweet, Savage Family: Silly and probably predictable but am loving it so far. Chairman's wife's book club choice is cracking me up.

Six Flying Dragon: Yep, i googled Yi Bang Won...and now am psyched for ya know... innocent idealism to grow into rigidity. Depends on how many time jumps are in store for us. Looooove Gil Tae Mi. Great casting.

All About My Mom: So loving this drama. Ex-husband of snivelling secretary is very scary. Haven't hated a villain so much in a while. Waiting for Cool Mom to get her comeuppance. Turnaround is fair play, right?

Awl: I love dramas where you learn history and learn human nature. This drama inspires me to stand up for myself more and helps me to understand why nasty people win in their aggression against wimpy folks. Awl executes all this perfectly. Ji Hyun Woo, such a good actor.

Glamorous Temptation: Oh my! The manipulation of the second lead, the point-counter-pointness of all this makjang, the weird family discussions. As for our schemers: it's funny watching cocksure folks being so committed to their plans utterly unaware they are dealing with half the facts. Hero's mom has got to be the worst avenger ever. When will she learn that her plans never go where she thinks they will? Now that Assemblyman knows everything the plot possibilities are endless and somewhat unpredictable. Just hoping hero and heroine know to trust each other no matter what.

Mom: I've been glancing at the synop for this for a while and finaly dived in at episode 19 and 20. PERFECT timing! Mom's BIG decision has been made and the ish has hit the fan. Am not interested in what happened in the past but will definitely be watching in the future.

Have a great weekend, all.

November 20, 2015 at 8:33 AM

It's been tough but am doing better. I should finish writing my email to you. Haven't read or written in a while but did manage to make it through the judging competition. My mind is working a little better now. The fibro fog is leaving. Still have to sleep though. Am avoiding gluten which supposedly wil help, and also trying to eat mostly raw..which also supposedly helps.

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November 20, 2015 at 9:13 AM

Haha yes I've been missing your emails!

Glad you got through the judging comptetition and that hte mind is feeling better.

hope any of those things will work for you, and make the fibro better.

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November 20, 2015 at 10:42 AM

I love Awl as well. It's not glamourous and nothing is overly dramatized. It's just about ordinary people who suddenly realize that they are all in the same boat and are expected to make sacrifices for profits and shareholder value with no real benefits coming to them. I find the older labour organizer's story especially moving. He's had his health ruined and still bears psychological scars from torture and police brutality but still remains committed to his principles and a better deal for the ordinary working person.

yes! And he better be hot! I think she's cute and I'm tired of folks hating on overweight girls in dramas. We shall see what happens.

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November 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM

I'm pretty sure the episodes I've watched have been David Tennant episodes. If I remember he's the one my friend said was his favorite Doctor.

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November 20, 2015 at 2:17 PM

LOL, which three or four episodes of Doctor Who that you watched might make a big difference :)

The easiest way for a newbie to understand it is to go back to the beginning of the reboot, when Christopher Eccelson was The Doctor. It was the first major introduction to the series for a lot of viewers (here in the US, some of our PBS stations carried the classic show, but it was done on a station-by-station basis; where I live the classic series never aired). He's not my favorite doctor (I like the three after him, though, and he was only on the show for a year), but since the show had been off the air for years, I think they made things a little easier to understand for newbies.

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November 21, 2015 at 7:35 AM

Yes, LizJ has explained far better, definitely best to start with Christopher Eccelston as the Doctor, to get a real sense of the character and the back-story of the series.

Also I think you have to think of the show as a box of chocolates, a peculiar assortment of stuff, you could be laughing hysterically one minute and then in floods of tears the next. Each episode is written by different people, intended to be stand alone -sort of a day in the life of the doctor. The basic theme is helping people, running away a lot, banter and everything else is really up to the imagination of the creator.

I just think it is really cool to have an anti-hero/hero as the main character that doesn't lean towards violence, of all the things you could have as a weapon. It's a screwdriver he chooses. Plus the fantastical creatures and worlds, a joy to watch.

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November 21, 2015 at 7:40 AM

Apologies for the essay, I didn't realise I was so passionate about it...
Stand out episode for me from season 1 is Dalek, It's their first appearance in the reboot and I think you get a real sense of how dark Eccelston's Doctor is. Plus the idea of that type of Dalek is something that gets explored a lot in Matt Smith's -Clara Oswald arc.

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November 20, 2015 at 7:50 AM

I forgot it was friday.. Was busy shoveling snow, and cleaning the house, which is what I ended up doing on my day off.

Oh and (for those interested): kdrama toddlers, season 2?
-Two of the kids ran into each other to hug and did the whole hug-kiss-spinn thing (although kiss was accidental). It was reminded me off the time the old kdrama toddlers did the "falling on to off each other"-kiss.

-two others showed how the "run into each other and lip collision"-kiss is done.

-had this conversation: girls 1 to boy 1"When I get older we should marry!". Boy 2: "No you can't you have to marry me. My dad said so!" Girl 1: "but, you didn't give me candy!". Boy 1: "I asked first so he gave it to me. Wait, do I have to marry him now?"

I also got asked if I was chinese by a little girl because I spoke chinese to her and her mother.

Dramaland: Garo! <3 so loving this series. so much <3

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November 20, 2015 at 8:02 AM

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November 20, 2015 at 9:07 AM

I honestly don't know how you keep a straight face when you see this stuff firsthand, the marrying-for-candy anecdote had me letting out this weird high-pitched shriek of laughter and I'm only the one reading!

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November 20, 2015 at 9:45 AM

Haha training! ;) But yeah it's a struggle at times. And I do fail!

But yeah always try not to, simply to not make them feel embarrased. Especially little ones, doesn't always realize that you are laughing of what they say because it is cute and funny, and get embarrassed thinking you are making fun of them. So it's a balance to find :)

It's especially hard when it's really cute and the child is just so serious. Like one conversation I had with 2 five year olds about same sex marriages.

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November 20, 2015 at 7:50 AM

Just a little bit on something fun and DB-related... 4 of us Beanies met up yesterday for the first time and for a Korean dinner in a Singapore restaurant. It was a riot. We had to inform each other what we'd be wearing so that we could recognise each other and when we did meet, it was just fun and hilarity all the way.

At first we almost did not get down to ordering since we were so busy talking and then after 2 hours of spazzing, we also took some time to get down to ordering dessert. We sat there for 3 hours and turned a few heads with our laughter.

Oh... and the food? We loved the Jajangmyun... after watching it make an appearance at least 3 times in Sassy Go Go, we just had to order it LOL! It was sweet and not too sticky and had nice bits of potato and meat in it. The Kimchi Pancake was not so much up our alley as it was sour and chewy and only a little spicy... maybe it was toned down? The Beef was great... so tender and seasoned somewhat like the Korean BBQ meats... and we had a Korean Ginseng Chicken soup which we had to season ourselves ... it was just pure chicken and soup LOL! and we had finally a weird but fun mix of the very hot and very cold desserts... Yes and the very best dish was the dessert of Sea Salt Caramel on Ice-cream with Cheesecake on crushed ice. *drool*

Thanks a heap ladies for meeting up and making it a blast! We never thought (where we were concerned), that reading a blog like DB would get us to actually meet each other and make online friends!!! And yes, in case some of you read earlier posts about my forming a group... this meet up was a result of that group. So Yay! for Beanies and Groups and Friendship!!!!

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November 20, 2015 at 11:45 AM

You might want to add GB that it was with one Beanie from another country. So, as you can see, we are crossing borders making friends through DB.

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November 20, 2015 at 2:22 PM

Hi All

@ Manin, yes the group is still open... you can find my email and the invitation in OT #419, Comment 31 and 31.4.

@ pogo (Sassy Go Go's cheerleader-in-chief) - we had the white version of the radishes but I've had the yellow ones before. Think of apple-like crunchiness with sweet-sour-tad salty mix. In which part of the world are you?

@ merry - yes... I did not mention it but is all thanks to @Divyrus who is visiting Singapore that the rest of us came together to meet up. LOL! And if only one more of us from our nearby Indonesian island had all the necessary docs, there'd have been 5 of us and we'd have been even more international. :D

So I've been saying to the group(s) ... make more visits out here and we can go tour the Korean restaurants... there seem to be heaps to explore!!!

http://www.hungrygowhere.com/search-results/Korean+Cuisine/?3votesabove=1&cuisine=Korean&search_location=&tab=1&search_type=show_exact_match&search_biz_id=91be0100&filter_min_rating=0&filter_max_rating=5

Crazy isn't it? We'd need many days of eating to get through them! :)

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In which part of the world are you? I was thinking that the Hallyu Wave had reached just about everywhere.

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November 22, 2015 at 4:52 AM

that would be slovenia. the only hallyu echo around here was psy. and that was it.

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November 20, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Hi to all :)

I just want to ask about good korean movie recommendations. Other good asian movies are okay too.

You see, I am planning on visiting my family this weekend and my mother and younger sisters love watching movies that tend to move you in a way.(e.g. Ode to My Father)

They've already watched Miracle in Cell No.7, Hello Ghost and many more(not love stories). Thank you very much!

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November 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM

I'll recommend the following:

Sunny (totally heartwarming)
Miss Granny (ditto - plus it's a great family movie)
War of the Arrows (action movie, but has a lot of heart despite its fast pace and stirring action scenes)
The Attorney

Among non-Korean movies, I totally recommend Kamikaze Girls - it's got two awesome heroines and their reluctantly formed friendship at its heart.

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Dalja from Dalja's Spring. Because she is actually working and a damn good career woman.

Not surprisingly, i find it very hard to dig for a good independent career woman in kdramas. LOL

Oh and Ahn Young Yi from Misaeng.

The only recent one is hmm. Cha Ji An from I Remember You? If she tones down her rashness a bit.

November 21, 2015 at 11:09 AM

well ha, Chae Rim was Dal Ja. tehee. and the other lady was pretty strong as well! I think she was played very realistic according to age and achievements.

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25 Laika

November 20, 2015 at 8:31 AM

Help. I think I may be done with Kpop for all time.

I actually was always into dramas more than Kpop. But over the past couple of years I started to get more into Kpop because I was curious about all the idols being casted in things. I thought, oh I'll check this out one day when I actually stumbled upon a video on youtube.

Big mistake.

In like a few weeks I became super obsessed because it was literally nothing I'd ever seen before. Like all the crazy dancing and hair and whatever. All the 'hot' guys with lots of make up. And the crazy fans! Lots of fun, lots of excitement, lots of flash!!!! Right? You'd think it'd be amazing, right?

Nope. Kpop was the worst thing that has ever happened to me. Not only are the idols the same factory, re-fried bullshit with the same concepts, the same music styles, and the same plastic visuals, but they are treated like GARBAGE by both company and fan. They are literal slaves and their music gets worse every year. I can't even believe it when I'm watching people spazz out over groups trying and failing to do the nae nae just because it got popular this year. And how groups are born, get popular, and literally crumble two years later. It's all so fast and meaningless and nothing has staying power except for the worst and most manufactured bs.

And then you have Kpop fandom. I swear, in drama fandom you might come across some disagreeable people, but nothing, NOTHING compares to Kpop stans. The level of delusion I have witnessed by even people over the legal drinking age makes me so...sad for humanity. Especially fans of SMEntertainment, that company seems to have curated the most psychotic and maladjusted people of all time. How people can go so crazy over the shittiest groups. Fans who will gang up on you for not thinking their faves have all the global relevancy in the world when their overall pay in the past three years is what Beyonce spends on Blue Ivy's hair cream. The amount of delusion when they think their idol oppas are more loved and relevant than top actors, or when they think some random SM rookie deserves to be the next Nation's First Love when at most she has the support of a handful of mindless fans - and the worst thing is that there is so much delusion, so much brattiness, so much cattiness, childishness and competition that they can just pull you right into their circle of hell to sling mud along with them. It's like banging your head against the wall.

Needless to say, I've seen the light. The groups aren't interesting enough, the music is still shit and the fandom is insane. Kpop is Satan. It is so not worth it.

I'm in dramaland to stay *shivers* But I just wanted to share my little Odyssey. I'm just happy I made it back alive.

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November 20, 2015 at 8:55 AM

I m sorry you had such a bad expereince. I like kpop. Though I definitively see where you are coming from, especially in regards to some fans. there are lots of lovely people into kpop as well, however there are quite a number of loud black sheep.

My approach to kpop though is to listen to whatever I like. No matter the group. I can dislike one song, and love another from the same group and think that is okay. I try to avoid and ignore fanwars. they make me sad and frustrated. And unfortunatly for the artists it's they who will suffer from fan actions.

November 21, 2015 at 3:24 PM

listen, and let listen. ;) it would be so boring if all people liked the same kind of music. I just can't imagine listening to only one group or to a certain genre. am a bit of chameleon when it comes to music. love everything from beethoven, simon & garfunkel, juanes, nightwish, to roy kim.
akdong musician are siblings and they write their own songs. to me they are more indie than kpop but well, they won one of kpop star seasons and are part of yg family.
here's one of my fave songs from AKMU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUCIzn0mRHc

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November 20, 2015 at 12:40 PM

I find your comment interesting. My son is into many genre of music but he swears one of few music genres he dislike is K pop. He told me that his roommates kept listening to one of the BigBang's music all the time and realized that the music is really made to stick to our brain. However, he just cannot appreciate the music because there is something lucking. I have to agree with him but the same is true with many pop artists in the States.

I also find that counting of music video on Youtube does not make sense. Somehow some fandom members or agencies know how to score the counts high and they work on it religiously. They know how to rig the market. The popularity is not organically made, I am afraid.

Since I am Japanese I listen to some Japanese bands but not idols( because most Japanese idols cannot sing!!). I actually like Beast for their music among Kpop idols. They seem genuinely interested in making music despite of their idol status.( I consider CN Blue and FTIsland are bands but not idol groups)

I do agree with you in some points. And I was losing interest in kpop for some time too. But I have found a group I enjoy. Seems like good kids who love to sing, dance and have the most hilarious kinds of fun. And they are not afraid to show how dorky they are. Here are a few links if you are interested to take one last look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89PtqGeZ7nw&index=103&list=PLbaRmJ5dKOtsV9wtbW7_2QWm8Z_7J1u0W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBFVYYdANpo&index=133&list=PLbaRmJ5dKOtsV9wtbW7_2QWm8Z_7J1u0W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkA35GnNeQw&index=135&list=PLbaRmJ5dKOtsV9wtbW7_2QWm8Z_7J1u0W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItqtgE80fQ&list=PLbaRmJ5dKOtsV9wtbW7_2QWm8Z_7J1u0W&index=24

Hope you find the half as entertaining as I do.

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November 20, 2015 at 8:35 AM

Bubblegum -- so why exactly is it called that way? Surely it is not for just one scene. The tone of the show seems more melobthan bubbly to me. I'm concerned about the direction of the story, the reason why RH's mom opposes her son to date HA, the obsession of YS and her brother...

Tw-drama "Marry Me or Not" -- I couldn't finish episode 1. I got turned off at the scene where the lead female went to her friends' (or classmates) reunion and she was acting quite pretentious. I suppose this was just an act, right? I might give it another chance and pick it up again.

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27 Excitable

November 20, 2015 at 9:14 AM

Well hello there beanies!

It's been a while.

So current update, on the brick of dropping Bubblegum although the OTP is still cute. Trying out Oh My Venus and left wanting more. I will stick around for a few more episodes for the sake of So Ji Sub and Shin Min Ah. (Cos you know why). Waiting for One More Happy Ending. Because i have 3 of my most watchable K Actors in one drama.

For JDrama side, about to try Minami Kun no Koibito. Just finished watching Hero Season 2, still wanting to see any drama within the genre of Soratobu Kouhoushitsu and Osozaki no Himawari. I just love this type of story instead.

Question to ask, I'm curious about We Got Married (the faux-marriage reality show) because i feel its pretty darn twisted. So I'm giving it a try. What couple should i give it a go?

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November 20, 2015 at 10:36 AM

MinaBoom ~

Her apartment doesn't have a kitchen. Just a bedroom and the bathroom.

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34 earthna

November 20, 2015 at 10:44 AM

Ships sinking left and right at Six Flying Dragons this week. Thank you to the production team for airing 2 episodes back to back after cancelling the Monday episode. I'm starting to dislike baseball. Anyway, I still got my 2 episodes dose for this week so I'm good.

I still need to catch up on the latest episodes of Awl.

Reply 1988 is okay. I'm still watching it.

By the way, any Infinite fans living in Vancouver? They're coming for a concert on Jan. 7 next year. Let's go~~~!

So many dramas. So little time. Have a good weekend, beanies~!

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November 21, 2015 at 12:02 AM

WAIT. WHAT. WAIT. HOLD UP. WHAAAAAT.

Is Infinite actually coming to CANADA on their world tour?!?!?!! Holy sh-!!! I watch contemplating flying to LA to see them (again) but after going their for Big Bang in October I'm flat out broke. I totally have NOT been keeping up to date with their upcoming announcements for tour locations because I thought there was NO WAY they're coming to Canada.

November 20, 2015 at 10:55 AM

Hi!

The only drama I'm excited for is All about my Mom, it's all kicking off, and I love it. I was really upset last week, watching the CEO talk down to Jin ah and the whole ''I'm not this type of person'' speech. How could she speak so coldly to someone else's precious child!

Also watched:
Marry me or Not - Didn't realise that the OTP were from Office girls, so glad to see them on screen together again!
I'm glad to see that Roy and Alice are back together in different roles and I'm excited to see what direction their characters will go in.

Oh My Venus - Don't like that the JGW seems to be playing a similar type of role so soon after Birth of a Beauty. I can see why everyone fan-girls over So Ji Sub, he is very charismatic. I'll try to watch Master's sun soon, [although I might spent the whole time covering my eyes!]

Kiss Me Thai - LOVE. Nothing else to add, Blonde hair looks really nice on mike d angelo. Will he sing an ost? Love how they show naoki's true feelings to the audience so clearly.

Has anyone cancelled their cable? If so, where do you watch Koreans dramas?

I've tried online sites, but there's always a problem. Always. Either the sound won't play, or it buffers every few seconds, or any number of things. It's a nightmare.

Any suggestions?

November 21, 2015 at 11:41 AM

Hi @Anna
Where do you download dramas, if I may ask? The best I could find is myasiantv, but it doesn't provide complete series for download.

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November 21, 2015 at 12:53 PM

I use doramax264 a lot. Also freekorandramas, hanazone.net for Japanese. And usually get my subs from subscene.

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November 20, 2015 at 3:45 PM

Dancing in joy because many of beanies are watching Love Me If You Dare! Lol. ???

November 20, 2015 at 8:40 PM

I am all tapped out as far as Kdramas go. Sassy Go Go and She was Pretty was the last ones. Frustrated over Reply 1988 because of the lack of readily available subs. Not really feeling Bubblegum or Oh My Venus (might revisit though) so I tried some Taiwanese dramas like Moon River and Bromance but they seemed too cliche and I ended up dropping both after 5 or 6 episodes. I really need a drama to get addicted to right now.

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November 21, 2015 at 4:10 AM

Give Love Me If You Dare a try. So many Beanies here enjoying so it should be good enough for you.

I now have a couple of years of Kdrama watching under my belt, and I notice that I seem to be dropping lots more dramas than I did in the beginning. I dropped SGG; apparently high school dramas really aren't my thing. I've also dropped Bubblegum. I really wasn't feeling any chemistry between the two leads, so could not invest emotionally in their future as a couple. (But yes, I too want that radio, and have actually been shopping for a couple of months for one like that!)

I am still watching Achiara; The Village, and liking it; and Answer Me 1988. I love, love, love the family and neighbors slice-of-life feels. I felt the last AM dropped that in favor of the shipping wars, which was a real loss. Hoping they don't make that mistake again. And yes, waiting for the subs on Dramafever is driving me nuts! But so worth the wait! I loved the scene in episode 4, where they are riding the bus, and he protects her from falling all over, and she notices the veins in his arms. It reminded me of when I was a teen, and I first started noticing and liking that in boys. And I haven't changed!

Speaking of which, I am also watching Oh My Venus for SJS's chest and arms. And they must know that the script is a little weak, so they're using those shots as bait to keep me watching, and I must say, it is working!
Kdrama has turned me into a dirty old woman. :)

I started Nirvana in Fire last weekend, and was impressed with the quality. I needed to read recaps to really know what was going on in the first 2 eps though. Thank heavens I found some. Nice to read here that they are on problematic of ... . I'll be sure and look for them. I also like the way I have seen women portrayed in it, so far.

Have a great week beanies!

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November 21, 2015 at 8:33 PM

Hi Parichita,

The song is called "Because I" by a Swedish musician named Lasse Lindh. Here's a youtube of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGuHcstSwtE

Some of his other songs have been used in kdramas. "Run To You" was in Angel Eyes.

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November 22, 2015 at 10:13 AM

Thanks a lot for the link and the name of the singer. I just loved the lyrics of the song. And I would have never been able to guess it is Swedish song.

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43 Misskania

November 21, 2015 at 12:58 PM

Maybe, it has been discussed before but Oh My Ghostess is just so awesome and crunchy sweet. The chemistry is just so cute. I never thought I will say something like this, but that drama, oh come on! Park Boyoung is definitely a great actress. Not in the making anymore, she already is. Can you just switch from the awkward Na Bongsun to the carefree and flirtatious Boyoung in like... that. Okay, I just want to say my praise for her and congratulate on the cute drama that I'll surely watch again sometime in the future.

Another one I want to convey is what I think about Oh My Venus. Another Oh! What's with runaway chaebol guy again? Why should they always on the run with their own family? But John Kim is already a famous trainer then why should he cower to his own family? Nevermind. The first 2 episodes look promising but I just could not grasp the coupling. Not yet. But my level of expectation just dropped somewhere almost to the border of 'whatever'-ness.

Last one is Secret Message, the drama of Choi Seunghyun (Big Bang TOP) and Ueno Juri (Nodame Cantabile). Is there anybody else besides me, here, that watch it? I really don't understand that drama plot. Looks like just a dead set commercial target, no interesting twist of development going on. Maybe I am wrong, but this is what I have in mind right now

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November 21, 2015 at 1:43 PM

Been watching Empire of Gold. This kdrama is full steam ahead... it doesn't let up one bit with the battle for the "empire" between the various parties that want to take over. I have to say, Seo Yoon is the first female lead I've seen that can go toe-to-toe on smarts alone with the men in her family. She's ruthless and self-sufficient. I love it. After seeing her take charge, I find it more depressing to watch kdramas where the female leads are always one step (or several) below or behind the male leads. Why aren't more Korean women portrayed as the dominants in society?

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