Kill Me, Heal Me: Episode 10

295 February 10, 2015January 24, 2016

by Saya

This is Se-gi’s episode. Snappy wardrobe improvement aside, things are getting seriouser and seriouser. We already knew there was pain at the root of Se-gi’s existence, but the catalyst of Ri-jin’s proximity and the recent events around Do-hyun bring the locked-up memories back to the surface.

With the thickening plot, a light is cast on the sins of the past, revealing more than one hand in covering them up. Se-gi’s endgame is more than just getting the girl, but while his desires are simple, are they also impossible?

EPISODE 10 RECAP

In Do-hyun’s dream, his child-self huddles in the basement playroom, but he smiles when a hand reaches towards him. Adult Do-hyun realizes that someone else was in the basement with him, and asks who it is. Child Do-hyun grips the hand and beseeches the figure not to go, to stay and play with him. They fall asleep together, hands clasped.

In the present, mirroring his dream, sleeping Do-hyun grips Ri-jin’s hand, and murmurs the same words.

They wake up facing each other, and Ri-jin asks him if he’s okay. Then her eyes widen, and she asks, “Shin Se-gi?” In a moment, he’s on top of her, demanding to know why she’s in Do-hyun’s bedroom. Trapped beneath him, she tells him about becoming Do-hyun’s secret doctor. Se-gi jumps to the conclusion that her job is to get rid of him.

He drags her out by the wrist, determined not to leave her at Do-hyun’s side, but she argues that she’s here as an arbiter so he and Do-hyun can work things out. Temper flaring, he says that this can only end if one of them disappears, and she can’t choose them both. “Would you like me to disappear?” he asks her. Cupping her hands over his, she says it’s not her choice to make.

“You’ve completely fallen for Cha Do-hyun,” he says. Does she really believe his intentions are innocent? Se-gi leaves her with the laptop containing his video message to Do-hyun.

She follows Se-gi instead, and he tells her that since Do-hyun broke the “rule,” he’ll have to punish him. He explains that Ri-jin is Do-hyun’s hostage, so he can both protect his woman, and threaten Se-gi. It’s funny that he’s not exactly wrong.

He sweeps out and Ri-jin chases him down and slips. On her knees, she begs him to tell her what he’s planning. He cryptically replies that he’s going to ruin Do-hyun’s world — so much that he can never clean it up: “So that he’ll hide and never come back, I’m thinking of punishing him thoroughly.”

He turns away, and Ri-jin clutches him in a hug. “Let’s go together,” she tries. He breaks out of her grip. “If you’re not going to have me, don’t touch me,” he tells her. He locks her in and leaves in the red Ferrari.

Ri-jin returns to the laptop, and gasps at the video of Se-gi warning Do-hyun not to mess with his woman. Ri-jin looks up Chae-yeon’s address, and Chief Ahn arrives. Ri-jin assigns the chief to stay at the apartment in case of Se-gi’s return. She takes to the road, with a good idea of where he went.

Chae-yeon’s reception of her engagement ring from Ki-joon is subdued. He sweetly apologizes for his reaction to the rumors, and for putting his reputation before her feelings. He puts the ring on her finger with a happy smile.

Later, she walks Ki-joon to his car. He spots the red Ferrari but doesn’t see Se-gi. Immersed in the shadows, Se-gi watches Chae-yeon go inside.

Chae-yeon’s phone rings, and she eventually answers what she thinks is Do-hyun’s call. She tells him she’s engaged to Ki-joon and he shouldn’t call again. Undeterred, Se-gi pulls her strings, telling her he misses her and wants to meet. She continues to be brusque, but is freaked out when he notes that she’s alone, since Ki-joon just left.

Her doorbell rings and Se-gi goads her to open it — it might be Ki-joon. Although she can’t see anyone, she opens the door anyway, only to be greeted by Se-gi. Note to readers: Don’t try this at home, seriously.

She tells him to leave, and reminds him of his (i.e. Do-hyun’s) warning to avoid him if he crossed the line. Se-gi is mildly impressed by Do-hyun’s forethought. Seeing her engagement ring, he muses that he wanted to put it on her, and Chae-yeon wears a caught expression.

He barges his way in in the name of wine, and the door clicks shut behind them.

Ri-jin parks up behind Se-gi’s car, and catches him coming out of Chae-yeon’s house. He doesn’t tell her what happened. Shrugging off her grip again, he heads to his car. She points him to her car — no, not the driver’s seat — and he complies with the enthusiasm of a sullen teenager.

She demands to know what happened with Chae-yeon. His answer, to use her imagination according to how much she trusts him, frustrates her. But he’s made his point. He tells her that the mad curiosity she feels about not knowing what he’s been doing is exactly how he feels about her and Do-hyun. And she betrayed his trust, he adds. I just noticed how much lower Se-gi’s voice is than Do-hyun’s.

Ri-jin is tired of his games, and asks him what it will take him to stop. Looking her in the eye, he says, “Instead of me, kill Cha Do-hyun.” She doesn’t even have that level of ability, she replies.

They’re met at home by an anxious Chief Ahn, and Se-gi chides him for not recognizing him. Chief Ahn suggests Ri-jin stay elsewhere for the night, but she declines — she and Se-gi have things to talk about.

Pouring himself some wine, Se-gi tells her that if she stayed in the hope of Do-hyun returning, she’ll be disappointed. “That jerk is never coming back. The seal to his memory has been broken,” he elaborates. Ri-jin asks if he knows about the year’s worth of missing memory. “Of course,” he replies, “because I was born to cope with them.”

Following a hunch, she asks if she is in them. He promises to tell her only if she chooses him. Ri-jin explodes. Is he stupid? She already told him she doesn’t have that ability, but he replies that the longer she delays in choosing him, the more he will ravage Do-hyun’s world.

She sleeps on Do-hyun’s couch, and a blanket is drawn over her. She opens her eyes, and asks, “Cha-gun?” He responds, “Yes, I’m Cha Do-hyun.” Oh no, this is too suspicious. That look in his eyes is too calculating. She was worried he was gone, and she tells him she can’t handle Se-gi. He thanks her for what she’s done so far.

The next morning, Se-gi pulls up at Chae-yeon’s house as she comes out. She’s startled by his full Se-gi glory, all sharp wardrobe and styled hair. But he’s only here to collect his car, and tells her he’ll be back tomorrow for the other one.

At the company, Ki-joon is disturbed to see Se-gi come out of the same car he saw outside Chae-yeon’s house the night before.

Se-gi’s edgy look turns heads all morning, and he plucks hearts left and right, while captions (“an uncommonly handsome man”) follow him. Hahahaha. He makes himself comfortable in Grandma Seo’s office, and greets dead Grandpa’s portrait from her chair, a cynical smile on his face.

Secretary Ri-jin and Chief Ahn scour the company looking for Do-hyun. A run-in with Ki-joon’s secretary makes them realize that it’s Se-gi in the driver’s seat, not Do-hyun.

Se-gi flips boredly through a presentation, legs resting on the table…in the middle of a staff meeting. Lol. Ri-jin and Chief Ahn burst in, and since Se-gi won’t leave quietly, they end up wheeling the recalcitrant VP out by the chair.

In the corridor, Se-gi fumes. He throws off Ri-jin’s arms, telling her not to touch him. Annoyed with his repeated anti-touch tirades, she puts her hands aaalllll over him while he flails, but Chief Ahn restrains her with the reminder that they’re at the office.

This puts Se-gi back in control. He points out that here, he is VP Cha Do-hyun, and he has a meeting to attend. He wheels himself back in. He’s such a teenager, ha. Chief Ahn tells her Se-gi’s right — the meeting is mandatory so he has to attend. He’s interrupted by a call from Do-hyun’s mom, inquiring after Ri-jin.

The staff meeting is properly under way, headed by Ki-joon. Se-gi is so focused on making notes that he doesn’t notice Ki-joon addressing him. Chief Ahn, hovering nearby, looks over Se-gi’s shoulder, and LOL his “notes” are variations on “Oh Ri-jin ♥ Shin Se-gi" and cusses against his cousin. Hahaha. Chief Ahn hurriedly disposes of it.

Ki-joon asks Se-gi if he's found Omega. Se-gi has no idea what that means ("Do I even have to catch tuna for you now?"), but Chief Ahn interjects that the film rights have been secured, and signed off on by the mystery writer himself.

Ki-joon grudgingly acknowledges his efforts, but tells him the production will now be turned over to someone else. “How cheap,” Se-gi shoots. He accuses Ki-joon of using him, and asks if he isn't ashamed to openly cast him off like this, now that he's got what he wants.

The rest of the employees gape, but Ki-joon doesn’t rise to it. He simply repeats that the other manager will now head the production. But Chief Ahn reports that Omega’s contract condition was that Do-hyun remain in charge of it.

But in his office later, Ki-joon loses his temper with his secretary (who’s impressed by Do-hyun’s puppy-to-hyena transformation) and has a fit of fury on his own.

Se-gi wonders to Chief Ahn how Do-hyun can be such a fool as to take being put down all the time. Chief Ahn schools him on “responsibility” — unlike him, Do-hyun endures what he must to take care of what he has to protect. Se-gi snarks that the chief and Do-hyun sure are a match made in heaven, but it’s a shame since Do-hyun’s never coming back.

Se-gi notes that he hasn’t seen Ri-jin for a while, and Chief Ahn says she’s meeting with his mom. The news causes Se-gi to seize the chief by the lapels, furiously demanding to know where she is and what the hell he was thinking in putting them together. He storms away after her.

At a restaurant, Do-hyun’s mom gifts Ri-jin a handbag. Although she doesn’t want to accept it, Mom makes her snip the label off and forces her to keep it. She admits it was a bribe, and asks after her son.

Remembering Do-hyun’s nightmares, Ri-jin asks Mom about his year of missing memories, and whether anything bad happened to him then. Mom shifts in her seat and says nothing happened.

Ri-jin then asks if he had a close friend his age when he was younger, and now Mom is really rattled. But she’s saved (or not) by Se-gi’s arrival. He barks at Ri-jin to get up, and before he drags her out, turns to Mom in warning, “Don’t call her out again.” After he leaves, Mom panics at the thought that he might have remembered everything.

Se-gi deposits Ri-jin in his car. She can’t understand why he’s so angry, and tells him his mom must be lonely and in pain. Se-gi, his voice rough with his own pain, spits back, “In pain? Lonely?” Should he take off her mask, he asks, and reveal what kind of woman she is?

“At the scene of abuse, where a person’s soul was being fragmented, there are three types of people. Victim, assailant…and bystander. If just one of those three were absent, the bad thing wouldn’t have happened.”

Ri-jin processes the confession of abuse with horror, while Se-gi continues. “That woman was a bystander. Using that [knowledge] as a weapon, she has survived in Seungjin. Even now, she orders them around under its threat. But could I love that woman?” he asks Ri-jin, struggling to contain his feelings.

Ri-on does some indoor rock-climbing with his editor, but his mind is elsewhere. He puts together all the pieces of his research, along with his encounters with Do-hyun and his various alters, until he figures something out. Ri-jin echoes in his head: “What if it happens against his will?” Her connection to Do-hyun, her job as his private doctor…a man she likes — it all resolves into a picture he doesn’t like at all.

Se-gi and Ri-jin arrive back at his apartment, and he orders her to pack up — they’re leaving. But she asks him why he keeps quiet, when he knows what the missing memories are. He’s slow to answer, and without meeting her eyes, he says, “That bastard can’t handle it.”

Ri-jin disagrees — Do-hyun can handle it. “Then we will die!” Se-gi shouts, “We were made to take his pain for him. If his pain goes away, all of us die.” His ultimatum to Ri-jin finally makes sense: Either Do-hyun carries on living like he has been, or Se-gi lives instead of him. It can only be one or the other.

She repeats her earlier question to him. The memories which he has, that Do-hyun doesn’t — is she in them? He doesn’t answer.

The doorbell rings, and Ri-jin is surprised that it’s Ri-on. Taking her by the hand, he tells her they’re going home. Ignoring her objections, he sticks her into his car and threatens to tell everyone at ID Entertainment that Do-hyun has DID if she leaves it. She’s shocked that he knows. He tells her that now he knows about the dangerous situation, he can’t leave her there, so she should just do as she’s told.

“Are you even her real brother?” Se-gi asks, arriving on the scene. “Cha Do-hyun?” Ri-on asks. The two men face off, and Ri-on clocks that this isn’t Do-hyun. Se-gi wonders how many people have caught on to their secret.

Ri-on informs him that he’s taking his sister back, but Se-gi demands to know on what authority he’s doing so. “As her brother,” he replies. Se-gi threatens to take his eyes out if he carries on claiming a brother’s rights while looking at her with the eyes of a man. Ri-on remains unruffled. He tells Se-gi that he has even less right. In his ear, he finishes, “Because you are Seungjin Group’s son.”

His words root Se-gi to the spot. As they drive away, his eyes well up and his face contorts with pain.

In the car, Ri-jin asks what he said to Se-gi to make him look so sad. Ri-on is too angry to engage in their usual camaraderie. Arriving home, he instructs his sister to ask their parents’ forgiveness. He also tells her not to mention either Do-hyun’s name or Seungjin’s.

The family have company already. Dr. Seok regales the parents with proud stories of their daughter, who comes in right on cue.

After her confession, Ri-jin is all contrition. But her parents are still disappointed that she lied to them (and Mom tries to beat her with a pineapple, LOL), and even more shocked to find that Dr. Seok also knew. They deplore her for not trusting them, but Dr. Seok explains that it was because she had to keep the patient’s secret. He tells them that he’s ashamed of trying to dissuade her, when she followed her conscience as a doctor, and asks them to forgive her this time.

Ri-on burns the midnight oil looking through his Cha family scrapbook. He sighs that Do-hyun hasn’t, in fact, been living happily all this time, “Seeing how your heart has been broken to pieces.”

Ri-jin joins Dr. Seok for late-night snacks and thanks him for his support earlier. He asks about Do-hyun not coming back. She tells him that Se-gi said he went into hiding when the seal to his memory broke, but Dr. Seok doesn’t know what it means either. Ri-jin thinks the key to the memory is in the last nightmare he had.

She worries that he really might not return. Dr. Seok thinks there’s a possibility that when the seal broke, there was some kind of exchange between them. Either Do-hyun will come back stronger, or Se-gi will overpower him and stay in control.

Se-gi watches himself in the mirror, and Dr. Seok continues in voiceover: The most important thing for Do-hyun is how he’ll deal with the pain of his memories. “All we can do is trust him and wait,” he finishes.

“Are you there, Cha Do-hyun?” Se-gi asks his reflection. It’s time to deal with the past, he tells him. The people who made him into a monster can’t be let off. “Shall I do it, or will you? If you want to do it, come out. You can’t?” This scene is cut so hauntingly. If he can’t, then he should just stay crumpled up and never come back, he tells his distorted image. But a tear rolls out, belying his angry words.

He leaves the bathroom, and all that remains is an empty reflection.

Grandma Seo enters her dark office and is shocked by Se-gi’s presence. Se-gi tells her he was only doing what she said, “Like a night robber, making no sound. Living quietly as if I didn’t exist.” She’s suddenly fearful, and with that sharp smile, he asks if she remembers. He muses that everyone thinks he’s lost his memories — as if they hoped for it.

She asks him what he wants. Seungjin Group, he says. “Give it to me, Grandmother.” He tells her that waiting for her son to wake up is futile, and picks up his portrait. Grandma is frantic to retrieve her precious picture from him and they scuffle.

He purposely drops it, and to her distress, it shatters. Her usual ire returns and she raises her hand to hit him, but he blocks her easily. Se-gi offers to end her lingering attachment for her, and fear fills her face.

Se-gi drives furiously, and arrives at his father’s bedside. All we can see is Se-gi’s twisted reflection until he settles by his father.

Stroking his face, he tells him he shouldn’t have saved him back then, seeing how he’s in a coma now. “I became a monster because of you, father. Should I…let you rest peacefully?” His hand moves ominously towards a valve.

From deep inside, a disembodied voice asks why he’s being disturbed: “I’ve suffered so much.” Is Do-hyun back? With tears on his face, his hand touches his father’s cheek. “Father…” he sighs.

COMMENTS

Was seeing his assailant’s face the trigger Do-hyun needed to wake up?

This episode, we arrive at the inherent contradiction of their existence — the Harry Potter dilemma, “neither can live while the other survives.” The consequence of Do-hyun dealing with his pain and achieving wholeness is an automatic death sentence to the alters, the way Se-gi sees it. He can only survive if he maintains the status quo: Though they all live half-lives, at least they live. It makes sense that this affects Se-gi the most deeply, because as we’ve seen before, his desire to live — to exist — is the most intense. While abstract arguments can be used that they’ll live on in Do-hyun’s heart, to Se-gi, those are only euphemisms for oblivion and the end of his external existence.

What is striking and unexpected is how profoundly Se-gi is affected by the contradiction, because he wants both things — not only his survival, but also Do-hyun’s healing. It’s a conflict Do-hyun doesn’t experience, because he sees the alters as little more than symptoms — secondary existences that cause problems in his real world, where he is the primary agent. While it’s not unnatural that he sees it that way, it makes him unable to really engage with Se-gi or understand his anguish.

In the mirror scene near the end, Se-gi’s battle of hope and despair against Do-hyun is stark and powerful. He wants him to come out and fight his fight, he dares him. Mixed in with the anger, there’s a thread of hope, but it’s overpowered by precedent. Do-hyun has never stayed to fight. But you get the feeling that if only he would, Se-gi would be his first cheerleader, even when it comes at the risk of his own existence. What he can’t bear is (what he considers) Do-hyun’s weakness.

Ri-on brought home to Se-gi how trapped he is in Do-hyun’s life. Even if Do-hyun ceased to exist, Se-gi has to live in his world using his name. And his inescapable fate in Cha Do-hyun’s body is with Seungjin and those responsible for their abuse — principally Grandma Seo and his mom. I’m not surprised by Grandma’s role, especially given her unhealthy obsession with her son, but I was surprised that Mom was also an enabler. Both are unforgivable, but Mom’s betrayal is worse. Circumstances seem to point to his dad as the main perpetrator, and, ugh, that’s so… chilling and sad. But from a writing point of view, it’s a little odd that neither Ri-jin nor Dr. Seok would have suspected childhood abuse already, as it’s one of the key causes of dissociative disorders. But I guess this is dramaland, so let’s go with it.

Like Ri-jin, I believe that present Do-hyun can deal with his past. His main obstacle is that his subconscious mechanism to dissociate kicks in reflexively, faster than he can consciously work through his distress. We’ve had some small glimpses of him holding on to his consciousness for short periods, so it’s possible, but he’ll have to pull out all the fire and determination he can muster if he wants to stay present.

But Se-gi’s not actually bad. He’s reckless and immature, and Ri-jin brings out all his sides. He goes from debonair to dangerous in a flash, but he’s much more innocent (and breakable) than he pretends — that glass of wine with Chae-yeon was probably exactly that. There’s a childlike aspect to the way he leads Ri-jin along by the hand all episode. Instead of dominance, it felt more like it was about reassurance. By the same token, he lacks a useful working knowledge of how to live (and work) as a functional adult, which makes him as inexperienced at life as Yo-na or Yo-sub. He’s Do-hyun’s mirror and opposite: emotionally tough, but not emotionally mature. It’s also reflected in his tendency to see the world in black and white: with me or against me, hurting me or helping, and his assumption that his view is the only view.

I missed crazy Ri-on this episode, but since half of it is hyperbole anyway, it’s not bad to see him shed it and step up as the deadly serious brother. I feel like his parting words to Se-gi carry a double edge, implying that either there is some kind of taboo family relationship (unlikely to be a blood one, though), or that the Seungjin family is responsible for the forgotten trauma in Ri-jin’s past, or indeed both. Se-gi’s reaction — his sense of guilt — and the mounting evidence that she is the other child in his basement, says that he isn’t wrong.

I hope Ri-on’s tacit admission of unbrotherly feeling doesn’t force him into the second-lead role (especially when he doesn’t have a chance). It would add an unnecessary layer of angst and drag the show to mediocrity. This show excels in focusing on interesting conflicts, and it’s much more interesting for the story and his character to maintain the current tension. But it feels like Hwang Jung-eum is beginning to overdo things. The needless exaggeration detracts from the natural gravitas she brings to Ri-jin’s serious side, which is more fundamental to her character, so I hope she tones it down a bit.

Ah, but I can’t choose between them either, because this week I missed Do-hyun. Can’t we keep both of them? Or… all of them?

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1 Aria

February 10, 2015 at 12:06 PM

Thank you very much for the recap Saya!

The way Shin Se Gi hold his eyes open wide as he fights back his tears while when RO drives Ri Jin away and she watches him disappear in the mirror really tugged my heartstrings :( ~~~

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nomad

February 11, 2015 at 6:58 AM

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Sua

February 10, 2015 at 12:48 PM

Hahaha ok this comment cracked me up! XD Thanks, I haven't laughed for a while, but thank you for making me laugh.... is that a strange thing to say by the way?

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kathy

February 10, 2015 at 8:53 PM

oh you're welcome :)

this show is killing me in a sense that i can't stop thinking about it.
constantly i'm checking dramabeans to see if they posted the recap or i'm reading soompi threads.
am i the only one?

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lara4liwa

February 10, 2015 at 11:27 PM

nope you are not, been stalking to soompi, allkpop, koreandrama.today, thetalkingcupboard and soon...I cant concentrate on my work nowadays...dem you show...LOL

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Aria

February 11, 2015 at 2:13 AM

Me too :) I guess we all are under the spell of this wonderfully-written drama :)

lara4liwa

February 11, 2015 at 3:47 PM

huhuhu..its true Aria...never felt this way before to any other drama

aoisakura

February 11, 2015 at 9:53 PM

Are you experiencing symptoms of ...can't eat, can't sleep, reach for the stars kind of things? Hehe definitely you're bewitched by KMHM illness

lara4liwa

February 12, 2015 at 12:11 AM

yeaah Aoi, I'm even counting the days, the hours until the next show...but when the final moment has arrived to watch it...I'm a little bit scared inside...my oh my..I'm dying inside...is it normal?? maybe I'm already on the edge of self deprivation state...LOL

Beebeeshing

February 12, 2015 at 1:11 AM

I have been watching raws and I can't sleep if I dont. Its okay that we are just too addicted to the show. ?

sargevee

February 12, 2015 at 1:49 AM

Kathy I was just about to say that and saw your comment. It is killing me!!! I feel of Segi.... And I'm dying to know what Ri On meant! Did he say that because Segi could be related to Ri Jin OR because Segi is where Ri Jin should be and she is the rightful heir???

Kathy you're not the only one! I've been lurking here and Soompi as well. Very interesting theories there!

Thanks for the great recap Saya!

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Lisa

February 20, 2015 at 10:20 AM

That's what I thought too.

1) It's because they could be related (which would be the obvious conclusion, seeing as he (Ri On) just backfired Se-Gi's comment about Ri On looking at his "sister" like a lover while in fact Se Gi does the same.

2) It's because of what happened with Ri Jin. Obviously his family abused Ri Jin or harmed her or whatever, because she had memory loss too. And that#s why he meant it. But the first one is the more fitting, because even we viewers question it.

Are they related, are they not? Obviously, the answer is no, because then the producers would have never gone as far as letting them kiss already. This probably will be an issues once they find out they are presumabely from the same family (there always is a "break up" before the last make up in K-dramas right?) and torn them apart.

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4 Dramalava

February 10, 2015 at 12:19 PM

"If you're not going to have me, don't touch me!" I'll have you Oppa! I'd gladly volunteer for that job ?
Jokes aside, I'm still loving this show! I love how each of the reveals whets my appetite for more. Looking forward to finding out exactly what the great big bad is. I'm sure there will be tears...

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dokutokunaneko

February 10, 2015 at 1:49 PM

you calling Ji Sung oppa reminded me I can also call him oppa, and it's such a hard thing to do these days with all these 90-ers ugh!!! Very comforting to know Ji Sung and I still have 10 years between us and I can safely call him Oppa!!
Opppaaa~~~

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lemon84

February 10, 2015 at 7:58 PM

Couldn't agree more.. how can i call healer-nim oppa when he is indeed 3 yrs younger than me.. so yes i can call jisung oppa.. haha

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maryxiah

February 11, 2015 at 11:41 PM

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Aria

February 11, 2015 at 2:22 AM

haha..he said he must go back to work in that scene but he wasn't really working in there :) he only made notes about his love for Oh Ri Jin.
Luckily, Sec Ahn didn't burst out laughing when he saw that..hahaha!!!

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nomad

February 11, 2015 at 7:04 AM

Ji Sung just completely put himself into a class way above others with this show. His acting is just on the spot! The weaving between heart tugging and funny is also perfect, way to go, writer nim!

I also wish Ri Jin didn't seem surprised about DH being abused as a child, isn't that pretty obvious with DID? But I'm still on the fence on who exactly abused him? Cause from the conversation btwn grandma and herself (haha!) I thought the dad saved him?

Also, as much as Se Gi is rough, I notice that he doesn't pull Ri Jin on her wrist, but always holds her hands instead. Also, no matter how angry he is, he still manages to make sure RJ doesn't bump her head on the car when he drags her from conversation with his mom. Rich chaebol first lead in other dramas could learn a thing or two from him.

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Andrea

February 11, 2015 at 7:55 AM

I noticed that head-shielding movement he did too! It was so adorable that even in his het-up state he still makes sure that she doesn't hurt herself. I hadn't noticed the lack of wrist/arm-grabbing, but I will look for it from now on.

Man, the more I watch this show and the more comments I read, the more I realize that Ji Sung really has put SO much thought into each of these personalities. His hard work and dedication has really paid off!

You're so right about other first leads learning a thing or two from our Se Gi-ah. I'd LOVE it if they retired the Korean Man Arm Grab™ from dramas forever (or if every time they did it, the heroine stepped HARD on their insole).

Beebeeshing

February 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM

I think probably he save him from the fire..

And the answer for the next question is..
For the holding hand part, I think it is Segi's habit with Nana. They always hold hands when they show flashback..

For the car part, I think it's just Jisung's habit because he always do that. Secret also the same action when he pull her into the car... *soft voice*

sargevee

February 12, 2015 at 2:11 AM

That hand shielding moment stood out for me as well. Segi may be brusque but he's still DoHyun deep down and therefore also gentle. He's not a bad person he's just in pain....I bet that could be Ji Sung adding his own touch to the scene. I am so in awe of Ji Sung in this drama. Especially when I see behind the scene clips. He's a genius in interpreting his character and executing that interpretation! He continuously goes beyond any kind of expectation I have. Episode 10 is perhaps one of the best episodes I've seen so far....but then again all episodes after episode 2 are pretty amazing!

Coccinelle

May 21, 2015 at 6:32 AM

I'm late to reply but I'm pretty sure it's a habit of Ji Sung because he does it too in Secret. I didn't noticed in Kill Me Heal Me, but I noticed in Secret.

6 wildfly

February 10, 2015 at 12:27 PM

child abuse... hate it. i can get it why se gi thinks
his mom has as much right to be lonely as a shark waiting for his prey. thanks, saya, good recap.

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7 Trina

February 10, 2015 at 12:28 PM

Thank You Saya. I feel sooo bad for Sin Se Gi. However, Shin Se Gi look Sooo HOT!!!!!I am still waiting Nana and Mr. X.

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Mama J

February 10, 2015 at 1:59 PM

This is a good recap, Saya, but I disagree on one point...I'm not at all sure the father was the abuser. I am certain I remember the father saving him being mentioned on a few occasions.

It's bound to be something tied up with the existence of the sister-in-law (who became adopted into the family, as well, instead of the other brother?) and that child she brought back with her from the states, and the grandfather dying in the car accident with the daughter-in-law.

I'm not sure why they hid him away, but I think the hiding was the extent of any physical abuse, although there'd have to be significant emotional abuse in that situation as well.

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jomo143

February 10, 2015 at 4:33 PM

My guess is he ironically says that because as a result of his father saving him, he ended up being hidden, locked up, abused, a fate much worse than death.

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beebeeshing

February 10, 2015 at 7:44 PM

I think it may be Joon Pyo or Jun pyo's idea of saving him is to lock him up instead of throw him in one island?

The perpetrator could be more than one person or it could be Grandma herself. We can see that Grandma actually know the existence of Segi (except that she think he is Dohyun) but Segi hates her too.

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aoiaheen

February 10, 2015 at 5:52 PM

I think SG said that everyone wanted him to be hidden. Maybe that was the abuse. They were embarrassed about the illegitimate child and had him hidden away in the basement. It might not feel bad to an adult but to a kid it would be torture. And if he remained there for days/months it would have triggered SG to be created .

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Tai

February 11, 2015 at 3:55 PM

lots of good points/theories in this thread but i want to add, an adult locked alone in a basement is absolute torture/abuse. albeit they might be able to last longer before a mental break than a child could but there's been studies proving that any human being that undergoes severe and prolonged isolation (in the form of solitary confinement or the like) is at a high risk for depression, suicide, a total breakdown of reality, brain damage etc etc. since he lost a year of his memories i'm actually scared that he was locked up there for a YEAR which is so awful that his mind shattering into 7 diff personalities makes a world of sense. (funny how such an absurd premise turned out to have a pretty strong internal logic to it)

and if Se Gi is the one who knows everything, and has had to feel everything that Do Hyun didnt have to feel i can see why he'd be bitter as fuck about having to "go away" when he's the one whose been fighting all this time but i think a part of him is also exhausted too and sad and i think se gi/dohyun becoming a Whole instead of fragments would give Se Gi peace at last and Do Hyun the strength he needs to fight and face his abusers head on.

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Beebeeshing

February 11, 2015 at 9:27 PM

yeah. I want to see a fighting Do Hyun. It would be awesome. I think I will miss Segi a lot (his immature traits and comedic moments) but I think it is nice to see himself finally reconcile with his dark past. GAH!!

8 Anvesha

February 10, 2015 at 12:29 PM

And totally forgot to add (haha I really have too much to say about this show) I realized how deep/low Se Gi's voice was compared to Do Hyun in this episode too. I'm amazed with Ji Sung's acting!

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Hyades

February 10, 2015 at 2:09 PM

Yes, the deep voice ans sharp stare make me his totally different person! This is real impressive acting! Well gone Ji Sung!!

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KimNaNa

February 10, 2015 at 5:01 PM

It's his Batman voice.

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KimNaNa

February 10, 2015 at 5:09 PM

"I'm the personality Do Hyun needs."

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museofmanymasks

February 10, 2015 at 7:58 PM

BWAHAHA @KimNana

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10 redfox

February 10, 2015 at 12:55 PM

aaaaaah it is here. thank goodness I don´t have to hold back spoilers in other threads like I am constipated

Last time, all the alters except Se Gi gave us laughs, swoons, mystery, wackiness and bittersweet confessions

This time, Se Gi gives us the laughs and mystery and bittersweet and swoons for all of them.

But dear guys, make up and live happy! I don´t want neither to disappear, cause I don´t like a world without either of you.

The office scene just rocked. I think it is the first time ever I care about office hijinks.

LOL...LOL...LOL

aoiaheen

February 12, 2015 at 11:04 AM

jomo143

February 10, 2015 at 7:06 PM

With lip gloss and animal ear PJs!

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Arhazivory

February 10, 2015 at 4:27 PM

Hehe...if it wasn't a circle, it'd have been a two episode special. :D

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maryxiah

February 11, 2015 at 11:49 PM

I think it seems like that because we basically have to deal with 5 alters (for now) and transition from strangers to secret psychiatry treatment to loveline. I'm enjoying every bit of the interaction, except the super big secret that's been dragging 10 episodes long.

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sargevee

February 12, 2015 at 2:40 AM

I think the plot was how Do Hyun has developed his 7 alters and how he can reconcile all of them. The secret is but an incident that is used by the story to show us how Do Hyun will accomplish this reconciliation. I think it's pretty smart how the writer is doing this.

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12 Peridot

February 10, 2015 at 1:17 PM

Goodness! The scene with Segi crying was perhaps my favorite moment of this episode. And I was wondering about the full implications of the words that Rion whispered in his ear. (As an aside, I hope that Rijin puts her brother in his place. She is an adult and she has committed herself to helping Dohyun. She needs to tell her brother to not talk down to her. He may be angry and afraid, but he has to respect her decisions. And I hope that his romantic feelings are not having some influence on his behavior.)

Its so interesting to see Segi in action. He harbors all of Dohyun's anger and sadness and yet comports himself like a child. It's like he can't find a way to properly channel his emotions.

Pranx

February 10, 2015 at 6:44 PM

I am completely grossed out. By this K drama logic adopted children should be falling in love with their siblings. I don't know what kind of a message that sends out to people looking at adoption. I want them to kill this plot STAT!

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civilsecret

February 10, 2015 at 8:56 PM

its not like it doesnt happen in real life take witney houstans daughter and her adopted brother. i dont find it really that weird either. then again it may not really faze be considering there are cousins in different cultures that marry each other and its not a rare thing at that. also its a risk that its bound to happen between adopted brothers and sis that know they are adopted. these two werent even adopted by birth, they were like 8-9 yrs old i think.

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rin

February 10, 2015 at 6:53 PM

It would be similar to Pinocchio. The uncle and niece in name. I didn't have a problem with Pinocchio so I don't think this is a big issue here. Except Ri-jin doesn't have feelings for Ri-On, so he should keep it to himself.

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Sue

February 10, 2015 at 9:41 PM

People have said that but with Pinocchio it's actually really different because a) they both like each other like you said b) I feel like because the audience spent time with their younger versions we see that they were never introduced as siblings or twins (like in this show) and he was only her "uncle" by name because they didn't want Granpa to go into shock. She only addressed him that way because of that. They also never grew up calling each other siblings/twins...and they never played the part either. That's why I was okay with it, while here I'm just disgusted.

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Tai

February 11, 2015 at 4:07 PM

agree. i'm glad u said that i was feeling offended on behalf of Pinocchio writer's hahah. i even think this drama is more entertaining than Pinocchio which i also liked alot but the ship in Pinocchio isnt creepy at all. its very mature, healthy, sweet and honest.

but Ri On's feelings are GROSS. the fact that he is acting like he can dictate her life cuz he's her "oppa" when in fact his romantic feelings are influencing his actions alot (or even entirely) makes it EXTRA gross. the worst part is she has NO idea about it. she just innocently loves him as a brother and doesnt even know she's adopted. like she thinks thats her real brother out of the womb and he knows he's not and is into her "like that" and i want to throw up tbh? like...WHO thought this would be ok????

and he better not ever reveal it. i actually cheered when Se Gi called out Ri On's hypocrite ass, talking about brotherly rights while eyeing her in a very non brotherly way. like idg why this same plot couldnt have occured with ri jin and ri on as childhood friends. that would retain the angst without any of the NASTY but oh well. at least he has no chance in hell.

it's too bad tho cuz their sibling chemistry was ADORABLE. sigh.

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starsy

February 11, 2015 at 6:22 PM

I know how you feel about RionxRijin. I'm praying that the writer will tie it up neatly eventually.

IMO, Rion is one curious kid (hey he's a famous mystery writer now). Maybe it all started out innocently, but things changed after he found out they're (both?)adopted and as he got too invested when researching about Rijin. He probably started seeing Rijin as a subject of his story and that's when the potential 'I like you more than a sister as a brother should' feelings appear. I don't blame him really. It's just circumstances that make it out that way.

I'm seeing his love for her as a mechanism to keep her out of harms way, and not as a third/fourth wheel to Dohyun/Segi combi. Anyway Rion is so self-aware that he berated himself for letting RijinxDohyun meet, so I'm sure he'll take a step back when the time comes no matter how emotionally torn he is.

February 10, 2015 at 10:16 PM

Because It IS GROSS.

I'll be incredibly grossed out if my brother turned out to be adopted and has been secretly attracted to me.

oops, I mean it would make the Daughter in Law the Chairman's real daughter and Origin is the real grandchild of the Chairman while the "Grandma' had her child (The one iin a coma" out of wedlock from another man(Family Secrets) that the Mistress is referring to?

Andrea

February 10, 2015 at 7:05 PM

Ooooo, you're so right, that would make Oh Ri-jin (eep! "ORIGIN"! That's clever!) and Cha Do Hyun related. And I definitely don't think the dram is going to let them be related.

Hmmm, well maybe Ri-on is the child of the Grandfather and the daughter-in-law, making Ri-on and Cha Do Hyun related (and setting them up for a power struggle for Seungjin Group).

Perhaps Ri-jin is just like...a local girl that they brought in to be friends with Cha Do Hyun in his Basement Of Sadness.

Eeeee, I don't know!

beebeeshing

February 10, 2015 at 9:18 PM

Sawrry, i posted my theories the comments below because I was way too excited to post them.

1. for one, were the kids switched and the one meant for privileged life grew up in a regular family?

I think it is a maybe. Ri on and Dohyun could both be chaebol. Except their identities were switched in the first place.

2. who was the one who abused Do Hyun?

Definitely Mr X. I still have my reservation whether Mr X is Grandma or Joon Pyo now. It could be Joon Pyo's split personality if he happens to be the illegitimate heir of Seungri's group.

3. what did the mother witness?
The basement incident. She knows who were involved: Grandma and Mr X. As what Segi said, there are 3 person involved. My take is Nana is sort of the innocent one that was dragged into the whole incident. But her information is limited.

4. how did that fire even start? < might be important?
and who was the one who started it…

IMO, Segi started the fire. There is always possibility that Grandma decides to burn the place down to kill both Rijin and Dohyun but what if that this is how Segi decides to save both of them from the horror of basement and Mr X? And that is when Joon Pyo comes in to save them. Do hyun was taken away first but Nana was trapped in the fire (which is why I think he assumed that Nana is dead before he meets Rijin.) and Joon Pyo in coma because he breathe in too much smoke?

5. does even Se Gi know EVERYTHING?
what does he know? and what does he assume?

if my less gross theory is correct, Segi does not know everything.

He definitely know the whole basement incident.

He must know that (or he assume) he is a illegitimate son of Seungri Group. He definitely will assume Nana is the heir (which IMO it is not true) thus lead to the basement incident. If not, he would be crazy to find the true heir now to probably destroy him.

He also knows that Nana is a single child and don't have any brother (thus able to know that Ri On is not Rijin's brother when he first met him).

and one more induction to add is: There is a certain ickyness if my prediction is correct. This means that Segi knows that Nana is his "niece" and he is in love with her. Which it actually make sense because 7-8 years old don't recognize incestuous feelings. His love is purely because he is in love with her when he is young and when he meet Nana again, (since he will appear time to time in the past 11 years) he slowly grow into a teenager and realise he shouldnt be in love with her. But it is too late for that and he knew he is still in love with her after all these years which could be a reason why he is not telling Rijin the truth since the truth would push her away from him.

(to end this, I can't help but put this Harry Potter quote: "After all these years?" "Always." HAHAH)

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redfox

February 10, 2015 at 10:53 PM

I wish everyone would stop talking about incest. I don´t think that´s it in this case and if you all keep talking about it YOU are perverts.

February 11, 2015 at 12:18 AM

i doubt it'll end in any incestuous reveal (though oh ri on and ri jin is incestuous enough in my book, blood related or not)

As for Mr. X ........

I've been wondering...

If anyone has seen The Three Faces of Eve, they'll remember that [Spoiler] ultimately the personality to survive and retain the memories of all the others was not the primary one but a third and last mysterious one the others didn't know about, who turned out to be the strongest alter making the others (including the primary) disappear but retaining all their memories.

perhaps this Mr. X is going to pull the same trick, after all it is extremely unlikely he is a personality depicting the perpetrator (no victims of abuse who develop DID try to become the person who abused them, that's just doesn't make sense) so perhaps this will be the alter who'll combine the memories of do hyun and segi and yona and the rest and become the final whole person to survive - a person we don't even know yet

interestingly the third alter in the movie has no name, much like this Mr. X, and since she realizes she doesn't know her own name she chooses a name for herself (which is different from the primary alter's)

lara4liwa

February 12, 2015 at 12:20 AM

so chip, if the writers take this plot, it'll be so much fun if there's a contest among die hard fans for the name of the last alter...LOL

redfox

February 11, 2015 at 2:20 AM

but I don´t want them to disappear!

and I want character dolls. especially Yo Na.
could the drama producers please make collectibles that are available internationally? I would get all 7 characters. or just one and a dress-up set.

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Aria

February 11, 2015 at 2:38 AM

haha..me too!!! :) Oh, there's so many products that they can produce and make CF's with because of this drama. And I know that It'll be sold out again before we even know that it exists.hahaha

15 aoisakura

February 10, 2015 at 1:32 PM

I'm glad I refreshed DB while on break. Heck those online review! I'm on paused mode now.
I've been holding up commenting for this episode. I'm glad that the recap is out. Arigato Saya!
I guess the writer read every comments regarding KMHM, and he knows everyone is requesting to see Mr. Shin. Well let our wish be his command! We get to see Shin Segi in one whole episode. Yayyyy

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aoisakura

February 10, 2015 at 2:15 PM

How do I love thee?
While in a meeting... [rocker/cool/hard headed man-child "writing notes"

OH RI-JIN ????????????
SHIN SE-GI

@aria and @aoi: LOL. Yes. We do need it soon!!! Where's the fan now?? >__<

aoisakura

February 11, 2015 at 6:02 AM

OMG I forgot that Heart's day is just around the corner! I'm thinking of kisses with lots of hugs on a date? Gosh maybe we can see ORJ all girly made up ?????. The big question is, who are you guys rooting for her date CDH or SSG? Waaahhhhhh

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aoiaheen

February 11, 2015 at 7:50 AM

CDH with SSG attitude and fashion sense. Is that asking for too much?

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Beebeeshing

February 11, 2015 at 8:03 AM

LOL YOU ARE NOT. I WANT BOTH CHA DO HYUN AND SHIN SEGI IN ONE EPISODE. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? Am I having greedy thoughts?

But I hope both appear in one ep would help Ri Jin to find out who she wants to be with.

aoisakura

February 11, 2015 at 10:07 PM

Nope, you're not asking too much..
Here goes... let's start it off with a kiss ? from Shin Se-gi then halfway CDH wakes up and of course he's happy to finish what has been started. BAMMMMMMM so heaven.. oh man! Lucky ORJ

Beebeeshing

February 12, 2015 at 3:31 AM

@aoi yeah! I think it is one of those drama when we can have best of both worlds!!! Bad Boy Segi and Good natured Do Hyun. LOL. So jealous of ORIGIN. HAHA

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sancheezy

February 10, 2015 at 3:40 PM

Maybe because do hyun doesn't acknowledge them as part of him while the other personality is already accept the fact that they in the same body
They understand each cause the might be already meet
But do hyun even when other took his body
He still think they just another person and never meet his true self

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Daehoney

February 10, 2015 at 5:03 PM

I don't know if this is a plot hole, but if Yona said Nana was there, why didn't Do Hyun check the CCTV and see Nana's movement? Well Yona said 'maybe', but there must be some time in that house when Nana came out, otherwise the teddy bear won't come out.

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aoiaheen

February 10, 2015 at 6:43 PM

I think they are purposely keeping Nana hidden . I have a feeling she's not a personality in itself but just a memory of RJ. Nana only appeared after he met RJ .

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jomo143

February 10, 2015 at 6:51 PM

Don't forget how freaked out Mom was, and how she was washing off the "I'm Nana" scrawl on the basement floor.

Nana has shown up before, and she terrifies the hell outta people. It could be that DH hid behind being a girl after the trauma - maybe for a long time would he only wear girls clothes, or something.

beebeeshing

February 10, 2015 at 8:31 PM

@jomo or it could be a person that existed in the family before? or Nana is actually the first personality Do Hyun has, after he loses Rijin/think rijin is dead, and to cope with his loss, he always draw the teddy bear with Nana. The Grandma and Mum decided to keep this as a secret. It could be a reason why Grandma is not surprise if Do Hyun has mental disorder during the meetup with Secretary Ahn because he had signs before 11 years ago.

redfox

February 10, 2015 at 10:54 PM

I think she is playing hide and seek which is what her origin was doing in the basement, and maybe the fire started from Do Hyun, then RJ called for a savior

aoiaheen

February 10, 2015 at 6:41 PM

I think the personalities make assumptions just as DH does. When DH wakes up in poetry park's clothes he assumes Perry poark came before him and not SG dressed as Perry park. I think yona too makes that assumption about Nana. She sees the bear in her hands and assumes Nana came before.

The thing with the personalities is that they are not like DH who was always DH. They started fully grown with just some of DHs memories/desires. They know perfectly who made them and why.

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beebeeshing

February 10, 2015 at 8:20 PM

I agree with you!

My induction of these personalities are born because of Nana aka Rijin.

1. Segi: The destructive baby. We know the lock in the basement story.

2. Ahn Yoo Sub: the suicidal 17 year old. My take is 11 years ago Dohyun was diagnosed with D.I.D which makes Dohyun a 17 years old kid (28-11 = 17). He was born because he regain his memory when he first got hit by his friend's father. And upon knowing the truth, he just want to end everything. But he decided to hide from the truth again which leads to him becoming Segi again and Yoo Sub to be created to contain his suicidal thoughts.

3. Nana: she is probably drawn from Rijin. Just take a quick reference to the epsiode where Segi gave Rijin all the presents that Nana would love which means Segi knew Rijin is Nana.

4. Ahn Yoona: 17 year crazy fan girl. This is the girl probably Do Hyun visual Nana to be after regaining his memories when he was 17. He wants her to be carefree and only think about Oppas. Reference to previous episode, Segi would have thought Nana already died from the incident and never thought he would meet her again. So, she was born on the desire Do Hyun wants Nana to live.

5. Perry Park: Uncle. I have a problem coming up with theory for him but if he is so fun I think I can link with Oh Dad. He could be the person who bringing Rijin to the family for visit considering Oh mum was close with Min Seo.

6. Mr X. I definitely think he is the kidnapper's personality.

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CZ

February 11, 2015 at 11:57 AM

We can saw Do-hyun knows about these personalities because he has been undergoing treatment (with the doctor) and also has his house under surveillance & recording.

Do we also know that Perry and Yo-na and Yo-sub all monitor the cameras too? (I think Se-gi might actually, he did leave a video message to Do-hyun afterall).

February 10, 2015 at 1:53 PM

Nice walk through Se Gi's mind, Saya. Since Se Gi carries the dark hidden parts of Do Hyun, and since Ri Jin is back in his life to trigger that dark past, I can see why he would push Do Hyun up against the wall to face those memories. Si Gi wants a relationship with Ri Jin that isn't just a crash and burn situation when their basement story is revealed. Se Gi realizes that Do Hyun's relationship with her ecludes that dark part. So, I wonder if the biggest crisis would be if Ri Jin remembers the forgotten basement story while she is present with Do Hyun, and not Se Gi.

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20 Dramalava

February 10, 2015 at 2:01 PM

Oh! Thank you Saya by the way! I'm finding that I like that the recap came today. That way, this episode will be fresh in my mind for tomorrow!

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21 lily

February 10, 2015 at 2:10 PM

Honestly i really cant predict Ri On's feelings over Ri Jin. He is the most mysterious person for me. First i thought he knew about CDH's illness but in the end he doesnt know at all. I dont know yet what Ri On goals is or what his plans. I think he knows about their (cdh, rijin, rion) childhood connections, thats why he over protective with Rijin. With or without his love feelings, he will always be protective when it comes to Rijin with CDH.

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CZ

February 10, 2015 at 2:33 PM

Ri-on explained it best as secret identities. Like he has identities to hide too: the secret writer vs lazy neighborhood oppa (always hanging out, not working, being at home/in neighborhood) vs actual person he is.

So it's understandable to him that some chaebol-heir would want to prince-&-pauper an identity for freedom.....

Only when Ri-jin's comment about 'it not being voluntary like Ri-on, but coming & going without control' worries him enough to come pull her awya...

@lynn, I agree with your assessment of Hwang Jung-eum. I don't think she's overdoing her performance either. In fact, I'm *loving* the fact that she's still just as much a part of this drama as when it started.

I find that dramas tend to start out strong where the heroine is concerned and then, after we've established how cool/lovable/great she is, we see less and less of her. By the end of the drama, often the heroine is trotted out only when we need a reason for the hero's actions. The fact that Ri-jin is just as capable, just as professional, and just as involved in the drama in Episode 10 as she was in Episode 1 makes me so happy.

February 10, 2015 at 10:56 PM

there is one car like this on my street. belongs to some music producer.

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Lizzy4e

February 11, 2015 at 11:59 AM

Good Job Lynn! I thought it was the camaro but you are right. Either way it is a sexy car.

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23 CZ

February 10, 2015 at 2:29 PM

Ooh! Plot guessing time!

I think...Do-hyun is the son of the Chairman/grandpa. That's why grandma wants her son to wake up from coma (and be the heir/make a new will), otherwise, it'll go to the second son, Do-hyun! Do-hyun's mom is a low-class woman who was married to Do-hyun's dad (the guy in the coma) but she either didn't have a child or is Ri-jin's mom.
She 'adopted' Do-hyun (maybe not filed legally, but effectively in essence) so she's covering the secret for this group. After the years of no one being on her side in the family/company except for Do-hyun, she's firmly on Do-hyun's side for him to inherit the money because he will take care of her - it's just his sweet nature to do so. Otherwise, the grandma, the Ki-joon family all hate her for being 'low class' and a 'hanger on' and also someone who holds a threat to the family.

I dunno what that makes the loveline b/w Do-hyun and Ri-jin. But I wanted to make some sense of the makjang storyline XD.

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February 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM

They may have been created to protect Do-hyun....but I kind of thought they don't care about __him__

February 10, 2015 at 3:18 PM

WONDERLAND VERSION:

It starts with the red prince of hearts (SSG) declaring a war against the white prince (DH).
He starts off his revenge by visiting the foxy flamingo(CY), the one he thinks the white prince
loves and makes a conversation with her. He then leaves her home and here we can see that
she's disconcerted.The red prince immediately goes to work back at the palace,
only to be angered by the Dormouse/tuna-lover (CKJ).
With the prince's blow by blow lines, the Dormouse
is left abashed. After that, our prince suddenly realises that Alice (RJ) is nowhere to be found. He then
asked the catterpillar (Sec Ahn) about her location.

Meanwhile, on the other side of wonderland, Alice and the March Heiress (SHR) is having a tea party.
Alice asks the March Heiress about the memory potion of the white prince but then the red prince
suddenly appears and grabs Alice and takes her back to the castle.
Just after coming back, the Cheshire Cat (RO) appears and insists Alice that she should go
back home now. The red prince tries to stop the Cheshire Cat but then
it says that Alice doesn't belong there because this is
not her world and with that, Alice and the Cheshire cat dissapeared into the thin air.
Angered by this, our prince looks for the Queen of Hearts (Grandma) and confronts her. He doesn't stop yet and rides with his horse to the dark forest. At its deepest part, he sees the sleeping dragon (CJP).
He immediately draws his sword, aims at it's throat and......

P.S. After all that happened,no one still knows the identity and whreabouts of the one that
started it all...the White Rabbit

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redfox

February 10, 2015 at 3:20 PM

who else thought of a different Wonderand at this?

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ys

February 10, 2015 at 3:38 PM

Me. I thought it was going where you thought it was going and then it didn't.

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lara4liwa

February 10, 2015 at 3:45 PM

we are officially get lost in a Wonderland, just like the title of the ost...maybe these are all just our hallucinations...LOL

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sancheezy

February 10, 2015 at 3:59 PM

I thought the same with you until
tuna-lover (CKJ) Appear
There's only one tuna lover

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aoisakura

February 11, 2015 at 6:19 AM

I'm officially stuck in the labyrinth!

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lara4liwa

February 12, 2015 at 12:25 AM

labyrinth where DY and RJ are playing chase and run game...wowow...I'm on it ^__^

I am sooooo addicted and inlove with this drama, it's not funny :)

I just love every minute of CDH and RJ together!!!

I am confused also about the story behind the abuse and how they are all connected. I thought CDH might not be a Seungjin family because of what Ri On said to him, "you have less of a right as well, being the son of Seungjin Group". That made SSG go to Grandma and demand that she give the company to him. From there we hear from SSG that his father, was the reason why he became a monster? I hope I got that right.

for me, the definites are:

Ri On has feelings for Ri Jin as pointed out by SSG
Ri Jin is with CDH in the basement because SSG cannot answer her when she asked him about it.

I thought that Ri On might be the true grandson of Seungjin Group because when their parents where talking about the mom taking Min Seo's child, Ri On was listening to them and he has that hurt look in his eyes or maybe that's just me.

Bring on Episode 11!!!

thanks for the recap Saya!!!

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33 Andrea

February 10, 2015 at 5:32 PM

Apropos of nothing, I'd like to say that I find the actor who plays Ki Joon EXTREMELY good-looking. I don't know what it is about him...maybe the hooded gazes, or the confidently languid way he inhabits space?

Min Yeon's child adopted with the Oh Family. When the kidnapper took Rijin, instead of Ri on, and locked her together with Dohyun, the 3 persons: Penetrator, mum (witness) and victim (Segi) knew the "truth". So it would explin why mum is afraid that Rijin (aka Nana) is back to take away the heir rights and Segi definitely have less right than her if she is the legitimate one.

So when she came back from the incident, she forgot her memories and thus she never questioned why Ri on is her twin brother because she assumed Ri on is when he asked her to call her oppa. This is the loophole in the memories that Ri On had when he is young (Reference to ep 8 or 7) when Oh mum was telling them they are brother and sister now but it only shown drawings for Ri Jin mentioning about her family when she is young and vulnerable.

But my theory is since Uncle and Niece is a big no no for k drama land and if they are related by blood, my speculations are:

1. Ri on is the son of Jun Pyo. He might be wondering who took his place and why he is in Oh Family.

2. Rijin, Rion and Dohyun's identities were switched from the start.

- Rijin (child of Oh family)
- Rion (child of Jun Pyo)
- Dohyun (Child of the Grandpa)

Dohyun and Rion were switched first. If Dohyun is the product of Grandpa and Min Yeon, they should kept him as a secret but why they keep him so close to Grandma? I think the reason is because we can be sure that Jun Pyo and Mum did have a child together. Whether it is blood related or not, we shall leave the debate to next round. But it could be same strategy why Do Hyun kept Rijin in his office, to put her in the most dangerous place and see her everyday. So Everyone thought Do Hyun is Jun Pyo's child and Rion was adopted by the Oh family since he was a baby. Rijin (was named as Nana then) was thought to be the illegitimate daughter of Min Yeon and was kept as a playmate for Dohyun.

So when the truth exposed to grandma, Grandma probably couldn't take the truth and planned for the car accident.

And this is how Dohyun couldn't take the pain at all because :

1. He is in love with his "niece"
2. All the abusement should be directed to him but Rijin received such treatment all these while. Good natured Dohyun felt sorry for her that is too much that he could not protect her.

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Beebeeshing

February 10, 2015 at 7:01 PM

To add on: what I mean by truth is:

Mr X, mum and Dohyun thought that Rijin is Min Seo's child.

Grandma knew Dohyun is not Jun Pyo's child (we can be sure because of the cold treatment) but also, she knew Rijin isn't Min Seo Child too.

My theory to why she is afraid that words will spread is because:
1. She wants to keep the President position for Jun Pyo. But now he is in coma so she still need the illegitimate child to take a presence in the company.

2. Actually Jun Pyo is not the son of Grandpa at all but he thought he is.

This is when my less gross theory kicks in:
1. Actually Min Seo is the illegitimate daughter of grandpa. So she married his "son" will rightfully take a position in the company. So her son aka Do Hyun will be the rightful heir of the company too.

2. Actually Jun Pyo is a product of someone and Grandma. Be it affair or not, he is not the rightful heir. So grandma allowed the marriage to strengthen his position in the company and that is also the reason why Do Hyun must keep his position. So when she REALISE Do Hyun is the child that was born outside the marriage, it threatens Jun Pyo.

So the above theory would conclude that three of them are not blood related to each other so there is actually no incesteous possibility in any love line.

A part of me hopes that your switch theory is right. But something doesn't add up:

Mama Oh got all worked up and touchy when the supplier who came to visit them at Ssang Li previously brought up the issue that Ri Jin doesn't look like anyone in the Oh family?

(I can't believe I came out of lurking on this site for KMHM)

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beebeeshing

February 10, 2015 at 9:59 PM

hahah! i know right! it's hard to contain ourselves in this story!!

hmm.. it could be a birth secret that only Grandma, Grandpa and Minseo knows.

Since Rijin and Rion are "twins" --> Same age
They could be switched when they were born. Min Seo could switch her child with her friend's since her friend's is a daughter which apparently less threatening in heir status. It could also explain why Rijin and Do Hyun can meet when they were young because the Oh Family thought that Min Seo would want to meet her "daughter" but not Rion?

Or, it's just Rion pretending to be like the Oh Family so that noone can ever suspect since he know he is adopted? It's abit like the identity theory he bought up. He is acting to be Rion when he is in the family but deep down he know he isn't?

February 11, 2015 at 1:27 AM

It could lead to another possibility that Rijin and Rion are adopted. Hahah. Omg. The circle is getting bigger.

It could be Rion acting to be not smart. You see, he is a mystery novelist. I can't say all novelist must have the brains of bill gates but he must be smart enough to come out with so many plot lines and keep his reaearch about Do Hyun under the blanket for years. Maybe he also want to feel belong to the family by acting to be like one? I don't know.

But I'm still sticking with my theory first before I watch the next episode. Every episode will slightly alter my theory because they are closer to truth.

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CZ

February 11, 2015 at 12:30 PM

I don't disagree that Ri-on is smart - but his stories are not new/innovative. They are just his own research wrapped up in a fictitious covering. I mean, writers should research what they write & and all that, but he's not research to write a story, but searching out a story/history/what already happened and is changing names or whatnot to publish books. That's not too creative of a writer.

Though I guess that's an age-old debate, is anything really new and must 'art' be 'original' to be considered as good/genius/worthwhile....

36 Beebeeshing

February 10, 2015 at 6:37 PM

Or my another crazy theory is Mr X is Cha Jun Pyo when he also have split personality. HAHHA. We can handle 7 personalities, so why not two for him. Family genes can be a crazy thing since he might not be able to handle the pain too. Just imagine the child you have been treating like your own son for 7 years and suddenly, he is your half brother and he is a product of your father and your legally married wife. I think it is enough to drive someone to insanity.

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37 jomo143

February 10, 2015 at 7:04 PM

I forgot to link my latest post about this show:

Kill Me, Heal Me:Shakespeare Would Approve

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Beebeeshing

February 11, 2015 at 4:24 AM

If it is the switching theory: It is like 3 cards that are reshuffled. For clarity sake, I use Segi (Jisung) instead of Do Hyun.

If Min Seo is the illegetitmate daughter of Grandpa and Segi is the her son that was This makes Joon Pyo and Jisung half cousin. He was kept as a secret. Joon Pyo is not Grandpa's son.

Min Seo and Joon Pyo get married. Now Joon Pyo has a son, Segi.

Joon Pyo and DH'a Mum have a child name "Do Hyun". Min Seo is afraid of Grandma's power and what she can do to Segi, she / grandpa switch "Do Hyun" with Segi and tell her best friend that she need to protect her son from Cha's family so she switch it again with Nana. Nana was now known as Min Seo's child which also a reason why she can visit Cha family house with freedom.

But then Grandma and Mr X eventually find out about Segi isn't "Do Hyun" and lock him up to get the real "Do Hyun". Probably threatens Grandpa and Min Seo (to be honest, she may think that min Seo and grandpa is having an affair at first). And use Nana as the best card to play to get "Do Hyun" back. This probably could explain why Dh's Mum is the witness because she didnt know that Segi is not her son but she is powerless and allow Nana to play with him. But Mr X realise Nana can't get back "Do Hyun" so Mr X decided wants his revenge on the Cha Family by causing the car accident and to Nana since Mr X thinks Nana is Min Seo's child. so segi that really turn into Segi* decided to set a fire or accidentally set a fire or by almost murdering Mr X to save Nana. Which leads to the fire accident.

so Nana disappeared and was thought that she died in the fire. But she was saved by Oh Family and now renamed as Ri Jin. It is possible that Oh Mum is around the corner during the fire because she know Nana is her child or her best friend's child.

"Do Hyun" is always Rion. Plot twist for him is probably he always thought that Rijin is her sister and then he realise he is adopted one in the hospital.

And grandma realise Segi is indeed Min Seo's child and thought that Her son actually "saved" him and now in coma. So the presence of Segi will threaten Joon Pyo. So grandma told Segi the "truth" that he is the not Joon Pyo's son and Nana is. And he is a product of an affair. Unable to take the truth, he turn back to Do Hyun.

English is my second language though. But I try to type asap to respond to the questions rose. But thank you.

February 11, 2015 at 7:16 PM

And don't forget the hair in PiGTAILS
LOL ?

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Beebeeshing

February 12, 2015 at 1:06 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAH! LOL. Don't make me laughed so hard! It remind me of the scene again!!

aoisakura

February 11, 2015 at 6:28 AM

Right on! Until now I'm cracking up with laughter with that scene. I love it!

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CZ

February 11, 2015 at 3:45 PM

Ostensibly, Se-gi went to the office to 'ruin Do-hyun'...but he did an awesome job - capturing the hearts of all the employees, suaving it up with all the workers, dutifully attending the meeting (that Do-hyun had to sit in - he could have been absent & not attend ), and defending Do-hyun's work/job from the bullying. He even won over Ki-joon's assistant ("wow he's so cool")!

February 11, 2015 at 4:19 PM

I misspoke. Not pants, but hand-crafted-by-blind-Italian-studded-leather-jacket of comedic brother. hahaha

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42 ByTheWay

February 11, 2015 at 9:32 AM

I mean I don't agree with you for 2.

Sighs.

But I do like your predictions because it could turn out when only one of them is actually related which it would be awesome.

starsy

February 11, 2015 at 5:50 PM

I like your theory! It was one of those thoughts that I had after watching last week's episode. I'll feel bad for RiOn for being left out of the Cha family tree, but it'll tie up the loose ends. It'll be good if Dohyun isn't blood/family tree related so the adorable love moments palatable for the general audience.

Cha Grandma did acknowledge that CDH came from her son. I'm assuming the family would be smart enough to verify through DNA test before officially registering him in the family register, unless there's another switch up of the DNA results with *gasp* the actual child i.e. Rion. This would explain why Cha Grandma uses CDH (the son of the opportunist lady) as a placeholder. She hates the person who's in her grandchild's place (I'm assuming Cha Jun Pyo has another child with a woman who's not Min Yeon when Min Yeon went away. She came back with a child with idk her old flame who is not Cha Grandpa as it'll be gross..man this is messed up but would explain why Rion&Rijin are "twins") but is waiting for her son to wake-up and restore her preferred "heir". This would explain the need to keep Min Yeon's child (Rijin/real Nana?) hidden because she'll take precedence in inheritance for being Min Yeon's child over Cha Grandma's preferred heir. And now we'll ask ourselves how did Rion end up in the Oh family? Annnddd we're back to square 1.

What about the car accident? Maybe it's Ki Joon's dad's way of getting more power by killing the 2 most powerful people in Seungjin. Fire? Maybe it's Cha Uncle(Ki Joon's dad)'s way of securing power for himself by killing Junpyo. I'm assuming Cha Uncle is not in the know of the messy relations when he set out with his plans. He just wants to reclaim the power taken away by his dad for being second-born, something he's been preparing for a long time.

Now I just hope they'll tell us more about the "abuse". Was it the mental torture of being locked up and made to live like invisible children whose pleas were being ignored? And when they show even the littlest presence they were physically abused as punishment? Would this be enough reason to break CDH?

Are we misunderstanding the flashback scene where kid CDH got thrown back as the actual abuse? Maybe he was repeatedly trying to cling on someone to leave the room but the perpetrator kept pushing him back to keep him in the room, further breaking CDH into pieces with the rejection. Segi then appears to take in the fact that he'll never leave the place, with Rijin/real Nana as his companion.

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Beebeeshing

February 12, 2015 at 4:19 AM

I like your questions!

1. That's also the reason how I came up with the switching theory and less gross theory. We really go back to square one if we dont find a reason why Grandma hates DH so much? Sure DH maybe a cause of Mr X's coma but I don't see a reason why she can baby her son so much but hate her grandson. It is bizarre in multiple levels. Plus Do Hyun and Nana must not have uncle-niece or any blood related relationship (I DONT WANT! I WANT MY OTP) so I could only deduced that Joon Pyo and Do Hyun must not be related and my theory worked on the basis that Do Hyun must be Min Seo's son.

2. Yes, I thought of it also. They can have a major plot twist with Ki joon's father! It's gonna be exciting!

3. I think there is a contest whether Do Hyun is long term/ short term (1 year) imprisonment. But I think it must be enough to break Do Hyun apart and the trigger point is definitely Nana (because "you called me long time ago" *batman's voice*). My take is short term because Do Hyun don't have a recollection of himself being imprisoned and when he does he always turn into Segi.

But but! I remember someone did mention that it could have been nana instead of Do Hyun. So, your theory about misunderstanding could be true and it maybe even closer to the truth!

43 kw02

February 10, 2015 at 11:02 PM

Thanks Saya for your recap ^^ I enjoy reading your analysis of how Se Gi wants Do Hyun to stay and fight, and how Se Gi is being emotionally tough in order to deal with Do Hyun's pain, but not being emotionally mature.

Given their expertise in mental disorders, perhaps Ri Jin and Dr. Seok should have suspected childhood abuse earlier. But I guess the key to healing still depends on whether Do Hyun can recover his lost memory and whether he is strong enough to deal with the pain.

I am so invested to see Do Hyun come back as a stronger person =) Ri Jin's speech about putting all the pieces together making the puzzle one beautiful picture is really touching T-T Hope to see the reconciliation between Se Gi and Do Hyun very soon ^^

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44 lynda

February 10, 2015 at 11:53 PM

I never thought I would enjoy this movie so much but God the movie is killing me the suspense and all is wow

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45 siesta

February 11, 2015 at 12:00 AM

i am a bit confused on the family relations
so if ri jin was the missing child, then she and do hyun would be step siblings? step cousins? what?
anyone has a diagram of this lol

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Daehoney

February 11, 2015 at 12:32 AM

If Ri Jin is the missing child while Do Hyun is Joon Pyo's child, then they have no blood relations. Ri Jin is the child of Seo Yeon and who-knows-who, while Do Hyun is the son of Joon Pyo and the mistress. They have different father and mother.

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Daehoney

February 11, 2015 at 12:34 AM

That is UNLESS the who-knows-who is actually the father-in-law aka the Cha Geon Ho (the grandfather/Joon Pyo's father). It's still debatable tho because there are possibilities that Joon Pyo's not even the son of Geon Ho.