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Misaeng: Episode 18

Sales Team 3 throws its heart and soul into the executive director’s China project, but when it starts to feel like something’s not quite right about the deal, they wonder if they should continue. Failure could mean the end of Sales Team 3, as well as the end of Geu-rae’s career at One International, and Chief Oh must decide if he’ll meekly follow the orders from the higher-ups or find a way to keep his integrity intact.

 
EPISODE 18 RECAP

As he stands in his bedroom Monday morning, Chief Oh remembers his wife’s encouragement to do what he feels is right. He gets dressed in his best business suit and, with his wife’s blessing, heads to the office to meet with the executive director to inform him he’s taken on the project.

The executive director is pleased and immediately starts discussing the deal. But Chief Oh has an important question: “Why me? Why Sales Team 3?” The executive director just chuckles and says it’s because he’s Oh Sang-shik — why should he need any other reason?

Chief Oh informs his staff that they’re going to be working on the executive director’s projects. They’re surprised, but immediately start discussing strategy. Dong-shik’s still worried that Poshin, the company they’re relying on, won’t win the solar energy bid. Even though Chief Oh admits it’s still not guaranteed, they can help Poshin win the bid by sourcing more solar panels.

He sets out tasks for Chief Chun and Dong-shik, and orders Geu-rae to do whatever they ask of him, adding that this won’t be the time for him to turn into “Team Leader Jang” and start philosophizing or coming up with crazy schemes.

Geu-rae’s still confused by what Chief Oh means when he says they’ll use their “connections” set up by the executive director, and Dong-shik and Chief Chun explain the concept of guanxi, or the use of connections and reciprocal favors, which is incredibly important when doing business with China. Even though it’s not Chief Oh’s style, he’s accepted it in order to (as Chief Chun would say) “move away from the stench of toilets.”

Young-yi discovers that her old project (the one Manager Ma forced her to give up) has now been taken up again by the head office, and Chief Jung is happy to tell her that she’ll be working on it again. The assistant managers are still a little worried about how they’ll be treated by Manager Ma (even anticipating that they’ll be the ones moving into Sales Team 3’s poorly located cubicles by the restrooms, ha!), but Young-yi’s delighted, and offers to make everyone a cup of coffee as a way of saying “thank you.”

She runs into Baek-ki on her way to the break room, and points out that he’s wearing the shirt she bought him. Seok-yul joins them, and as he’s making his coffee, he realizes the water jug is empty. He authoritatively tells Young-yi to replace it, but when she gives him the evil eye, he just laughs and tells her he’s just reminding her of what it was like when she was first working with Assistant Manager Ha.

Seok-yul struggles to carry the water jug, and Baek-ki finally takes over, smoothly lifting it into place. As Seok-yul pats his back in gratitude, his encyclopedic knowledge of all things textile kicks in and he points out that Baek-ki’s wearing a shirt made from some quality — and therefore super expensive — fabric.

Baek-ki tries to deflect, asking why Seok-yul is always in their break room when his office is on another floor, but Seok-yul cheerfully says it’s because his floor doesn’t have the fancy coffee machine or Baek-ki and Young-yi. Haha! Young-yi reassures the worried Baek-ki that she didn’t pay that much for the shirt, but their conversation is interrupted by the number saved as “…” calling on Young-yi’s phone.

Back at his desk, Seok-yul sees that they’re still working with the company that routinely is late on deliveries, and worriedly asks Chief Moon about it. But Assistant Manger Sung cockily informs him that they’ve already taken care of the matter by adding a clause to the contract, which states that late deliveries will incur a fee.

In the stairwell, Seok-yul privately asks Assistant Manager Sung why he didn’t tell him about the change to the contract earlier. Assistant Manager Sung taunts him, reminding him that he has more experience than Seok-yul and there’s nothing Seok-yul can do to beat him.

The executive director, sales department head, and Chief Oh have a lunch meeting, and it looks like Chief Oh is the only one who doesn’t want to be there. He initially declines the offer of a drink, until the executive director insists, pouring out a cup for him. The executive director fills him in on the connections he’s made in China, reassuring Chief Oh that they’ll support him.

He adds that it’s important for Chief Oh to make lifelong friendships, and not just dump a contact once their profitability is used up. He even shows that he has Chief Oh on speed dial, telling him they should talk on the phone like they used to.

The rest of Sales Team 3 is busy working on the China project, but when Dong-shik notices that Geu-rae received a text message from the kindergarten teacher, he tells him to answer back right away, because it’s obvious she likes Geu-rae. He sighs that it’s too hard, and relates what happened after they met up with Dong-shik after his blind date dumped him. She had happily followed him home, despite his annoyed reaction, and when he told her to stop texting him meaningless things, she cheerfully told him she’ll only text him useful messages from now on.

Dong-shik laughs at Geu-rae’s woeful expression and tells him to be nice to her because it’s difficult for a woman to be so forward. But Geu-rae looks over at his “contract employee” nameplate and wonders if it’s really the right time to pursue a relationship. Dong-shik tells him of course it is, because if he waits any longer, he’ll turn into a useless old bachelor like Dong-shik.

Chief Oh arrives and Dong-shik informs him that they’ve discovered that Poshin doesn’t have a middle manager; the number they have on file goes straight to the CEO. This concerns Chief Oh, and he reports to the department head, who seems to think it’s actually a benefit because it means they have direct contact with the business owner. Besides, the project’s practically taken care of — all they’re waiting on is the official paperwork to be signed and approved.

But Chief Oh still feels like something’s off, and when he runs into Geu-rae headed out to get sandwiches for the rest of the team, he tells him to work on this project cautiously. At the obvious product placement sandwich shop, Geu-rae runs into Baek-ki, who wryly wishes for the day when they will no longer be the newbies and sent out on such errands.

As they walk back to the office, Geu-rae fills him in on the China project, and Baek-ki’s surprised to hear Chief Oh willingly took it on, knowing how Chief Oh and the executive director don’t get along. He surmises that Chief Oh isn’t just thinking of himself, but he’s doing it for Dong-shik and Chief Chun and — Baek-ki stops himself before he mentions Geu-rae, but he suddenly starts to realize something.

Back in the office, he asks Assistant Manager Kang what happens when a team gets larger or when their position changes. Assistant Manager Kang says that if the team needs more manpower, then the department head can assign more people. Including transferring contract workers to full-time status.

It looks like Baek-ki’s figured out one of Chief Oh’s major motivations, and he carefully watches Geu-rae work diligently alongside the rest of his team. When Baek-ki leaves for the evening, he happens to be heading out at the same time as Chief Oh. Cautiously bringing up the new project, he offers his assistance should Chief Oh need it. Aw.

As Geu-rae works late on the China project, he keeps trying to figure out what exactly bothers him about it. He finds it strange that Chief Oh not only took on a project that isn’t his style, he’s ignored the fact that Poshin didn’t have any middle managers, and instead focused on obtaining solar panels for them. All that’s left is the final approval.

When Chief Oh receives the commission agreement, he’s surprised to see the request for a higher-than-usual commission percentage, as well as the demand that this project be assigned to a specific agent within Poshin. It wasn’t in the written contract they’d originally sent, but the Poshin CEO said it had been a verbal agreement with the executive director — which makes Chief Oh realize that this must be why this project was given to his team.

As Sales Team 3 tries to figure out the logistics of losing so much commission to a company that should be grateful for all they’ve being doing to support it, Geu-rae can’t shake the sense that something still doesn’t feel right. Chief Oh explains his concerns to the department head, who tells him to just approve the contract and let it go, since the company will still make enough of a profit to cover any loss in commission.

Even so, Chief Oh doesn’t feel comfortable about the entire situation, especially since if something goes wrong, it’s the end of Sales Team 3. He tells his staff to hold off on the China project for now. In the meantime, they should record all phone calls and get in touch with one of their representatives in China to find out more about Poshin.

Seok-yul discovers that the company they’ve been having issues with has been previously sued for delivery delays, and asks why Chief Moon still uses such an unreliable company. But Chief Moon is confident in Assistant Manager Sung’s assurance that this company is trustworthy, and besides, they can just fine the company for any delivery issues per the revised contract.

Aw, Baek-ki bought Young-yi a new pair of high heels, and he awkwardly tries to find a way to give them to her in the office before resorting to a text message, telling her to meet him outside. He tries to hide his nervousness as he hands over the shoes, explaining that it’s “repayment” for the shirt. Seok-yul the moment-killer arrives just as she’s trying them on, and he blithely tells her that he’d wanted to buy her shoes, too, since he’d noticed her wobbly heel, so he’s glad Baek-ki did it for her.

But he’s actually there for a purpose, which is to get their opinion about the situation with the unreliable company and Assistant Manager Sung. They give him blank looks as he rattles off the issues he’s having, but it doesn’t matter that they don’t really know what he’s talking about, because he’s come to his own conclusion: Assistant Manager Sung must be getting a kickback — it’s the only explanation why he’s so determined to keep using such an unreliable company.

Chief Oh calls the One International representative in China and finds out that Poshin’s never had such a high commission or assigned a special commission agent to a project before. Because it’s such a small company, they should be happier with a smaller profit margin since working with One International would mean a reliable contract.

When he informs Dong-shik and Chief Chun about this situation during a private rooftop meeting, Chief Chun asks if this means that the executive director is getting a kickback. Dong-shik thinks that they should drop the project because it’s not worth losing their jobs over, and doesn’t understand why Chief Oh is hesitatant. Is there something else about this project that makes him willing to risk everything? Chief Oh quietly admits that Geu-rae’s future is on the line.

Geu-rae’s at his desk, lost in thought, when Baek-ki walks by. He asks what Geu-rae’s so worried about, but Geu-rae says it’s nothing. Baek-ki tells him that he doesn’t exactly know what’s going on, but he encourages Geu-rae to keep working hard on this project and trust Chief Oh. As he walks away, Geu-rae calls out after him, asking him why he should.

Baek-ki reminds him that he said this project would mean Chief Oh could be promoted and build up the team. Hesitating, he adds that if Chief Oh becomes the department head, he could make Geu-rae into a full-time employee.

Geu-rae is stunned by this realization, as is Dong-shik, up on the roof, where he’s just found out the exact same thing. If Chief Oh decides to stay on with the project, it could mean trouble for the team — but if he decides to give it up, it means losing Geu-rae. Chief Chun points out that they don’t know for sure if the executive director is receiving a kickback, and Dong-shik also agrees that they should continue, for Geu-rae’s sake.

Determined to get to the truth of the matter, Geu-rae finds Chief Oh on the roof, and he immediately asks if Chief Oh is doing all this because of him. If so, he requests that Chief Oh stop. Chief Oh scoffs at Geu-rae’s arrogance, telling him to knock it off and get back to work. But Geu-rae’s figured out what has been bothering him about the project, and why Chief Oh has been acting out of character: “Please stop trying to save me!”

He doesn’t want to put the team in danger just so Chief Oh might have a chance to make him a full-time employee. But Chief Oh yells at him, angrily telling him that he’s able to put aside his personal opinion of the executive director to get his work done. Does he think that the executive director is less invested in the success of One International than Geu-rae, who’s only been here for such a short time?

Chief Oh tells him that he’ll find a way to make this project succeed so that no one will be troubled. And if that means a chance to save Geu-rae, then he’ll do that, too, because he doesn’t know if he’ll get another opportunity — or if he’ll have the determination to try so hard if that chance comes around again.

Baek-ki’s pleased to see Young-yi admiring her new shoes, and as they walk out of the office together, Young-yi suddenly stops short at the sight of an unfamiliar man. It’s her father, and Baek-ki politely excuses himself when Young-yi’s father asks her to get some dinner with him.

Young-yi sits stiffly at the table as he slurps down his supper, catching her up on life back home. She’s irritated that he figured out where she works, and becomes even more annoyed when it turns out he went to talk to Team Leader Shin. He tells her that he went to pay his respects to someone who had leant him so much money. She’s not at all surprised to learn that her father only tracked her down to ask for more money. She quietly asks him what can she do to escape him, and he simply tells her to wire the money. Ooof.

Baek-ki walks past the restaurant, watching her father leave while Young-yi hangs her head at the table. He offers to buy her a drink, and they sit outside in silence until she shows him that the mysterious caller is her father. She explains that her father had been disappointed that she wasn’t a son, and nothing she had done could ever please him. But when she got the job at Samjung, her father had jumped on the opportunity to help his constant financial insecurity by having her take out loans.

That still wasn’t enough, and unbeknownst to her, her father went to Team Leader Shin to ask for more money. When she found out, it was shattering to her, especially since she respected Team Leader Shin for teaching her that being a woman wasn’t something to be ashamed of, and that she was worthwhile — both as a person and employee.

After she quit her job, she stayed at home, utterly depressed until she saw a documentary about office workers, and realized she wanted to be back in that world — to live her life again. Once she finishes telling her story, Baek-ki senses the awkwardness behind her moment of vulnerability, and tries to lighten the mood by offering to see a horror movie with her, telling her that he’s getting better at handling them. Awww.

Geu-rae stays late in the office, thinking about everything Chief Oh had told him on the rooftop. Chief Oh sits at his dining room table, drinking beer in the dark, also thinking over what he told Geu-rae.

Seok-yul’s still convinced that Assistant Manager Sung is being bribed, and when he heads downstairs to talk it over with Geu-rae, he sees Geu-rae looking serious and deep in thought. Deciding it would be better to leave him be, he heads to the break room to make a cup of coffee, and when Young-yi and Baek-ki enter, he yells at them for not taking care of “our Geu-rae.” Young-yi has no idea what’s going on with Geu-rae, and Baek-ki lies that he doesn’t know, either.

Chief Oh snaps Geu-rae out of his reverie by asking him what he’s thinking about, and then reminds him that their conversation from last night is over, so he should just focus on his work. But Geu-rae still has more to say, and he tells Chief Oh that if he or the team end up endangered because of this project, then it’s all useless. His voice breaks as he tells Chief Oh that just the thought Chief Oh wanted save him is enough for him.

He tries to compose himself outside, and his mother calls him, asking what dry cleaners he left is neckties at. Before she hangs up, he asks if she regrets that she was never able to take part in the public service job she would have received if he hadn’t passed his internship test. Mom is as blunt as ever when she tells him that of course she does.

When Geu-rae returns to the office, Chief Oh is gone. His phone starts ringing, and Geu-rae hesitates a moment before going over to Chief Oh’s desk to answer it. It’s the One International representative in China, and Geu-rae explains that Chief Oh is away, but since they’re recording the phone calls, he can give him the recording as a message.

The representative explains how strange it is for Poshin to have those conditions in their contract, especially since One International is the reason that Poshin will likely win the solar energy bid in the first place. Geu-rae asks him if it seems like they should be the ones receiving the respect instead of giving it to the other company, which is how the executive director has currently set up their “guanxi” relationship.

But before he can get any further, Chief Oh returns and roars out Geu-rae’s name as he catches him on his phone.

 
COMMENTS

Ahhh! Geu-rae’s gone rogue! I get the feeling he’s doing this to force Chief Oh’s hand, since it seems like it’s almost a suicidal mission to make sure that Sales Team 3 proves there’s something shady going on, even though he knows it means he won’t be able to stay on as a full-time employee.

Or as Chief Oh’s faithful puppy. My heart totally broke during that scene on the roof. I know Chief Oh was trying to knock some sense into Geu-rae, to show that what they do here isn’t all about him (even though it totally is, right? Right?!?). But it still hurt to see a fracturing of what has been the most important relationship of this show. Even though all the characters have won me over in some way or another, the heart of this show has always been the bond between Chief Oh and Geu-rae.

So to see that heart broken — even if it’s for a just cause — totally kills me, and I’m probably not going to get over it any time soon. True, it’s important to see that Geu-rae is growing up and taking action, even following in the footsteps of Chief Oh by doing what he believes is right, even if not everyone agrees with him. Maybe that’s why Chief Oh was so angry with him. After all, Chief Oh isn’t exactly the poster boy for success, and I’m sure he wants better for Geu-rae than to be trapped in the vicious tyranny of office politics, stuck in the office next to the bathroom just because he won’t play the game by an executive’s rules.

It’s like Geu-rae’s reached the teenage stage in their relationship, where he’s rebelling to prove that he’s capable of making his own decisions, and that Chief Oh isn’t the boss of him (er, well, except for the fact he totally is, but you get the idea). And it’s a different rebellion from his “Team Leader Jang” stubbornness from before. There, he was still seeking Chief Oh’s approval. Now, he’s determined to make sure Chief Oh doesn’t ruin his own life in the attempt to save Geu-rae’s.

Speaking of ruining lives, I’m glad we finally learned Young-yi’s story. It was easy to surmise that she didn’t have a good relationship with her father, but ooof, it was hard to realize that he could barely stand to look at her (literally!), treating her only as a means to pay for all his financial failures — even if it meant destroying her own life. Knowing how much her father hated having a daughter and wished he’d had a son instead, also sheds a much more painful glow on all the misogynist awfulness she had to take from Manager Ma and in her early days as part of the resource team. She’s had to endure such treatment ever since she was born, which does perhaps make it easier for her to deflect, but I can only imagine the constant wound on her heart to know that, for all her life, people have wished she wasn’t a woman.

Which is why I’m also happy to see her warming up to Baek-ki, trusting him to a point where she felt safe enough to tell him about her father and her past. Actually, I’m just happy to see Baek-ki’s reached a point where he’s no longer so awkward and aloof when it comes to interpersonal relationships. Not just with Young-yi, where he seems to be finding the balance of being interested but respecting her silently-communicated boundaries — but also with Geu-rae. I wanted to cheer when he offered his services to Chief Oh, because it’s his way of helping Geu-rae (without stepping on Geu-rae’s pride, or even Geu-rae knowing about it, but hey — it’s totally proof he cares!).

But that only reminds me that Geu-rae and Chief Oh will be facing one of the biggest challenges of their lives next week, and now I’m sad. Not just because of what it could mean for their relationship and careers, but also because that means the show will be ending. *pouts*

 
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Thanks for the recap! I just want to see Geurae becomes regular employee! (hope it does not go as what webtoon author said).

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If it wasn't so simplistic, what I'd love to happen now is that GR comes up with the Baduk moves that will turn the situation around in favor of Sales Team 3. I do not even mind if there's a win-win situation, with ST3 and shady ED both gaining. What I want to have avoided is the tainting of ST3's integrity and unity by this somewhat perfidious deal.

My wish: That this is taken literally ie, GR takes ED up on the offer to go up to his office and play a game of Baduk with him. Winner gets to choose how the deal should go and what happens to ST3. :) Of course dream ends with GR winning!!!

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Wow odilettante, great recap. Thanks!

I'm so stressed.... damned if they do and damned if they don't.

1) Integrity and loss of team plus loss of GR or give in to shadiness (really goes against the grain), take risk and hope for success. Going the shady way isn't even a sure bet that they'd succeed.

What I want in the next episode.... they stick to what is right, challenge Poshin, expose the fraud but still offer to do their part on their own terms. Then win or lose, they still have their self respect, and can thumb their noses at ED.

I'm so disappointed in him!

2) On the part of smart Baek Ki who figured out Chief Oh's intentions, did anyone think that not only was he offering to help for GR's same but maybe he was hoping the Chief Oh would also take him into his expanded team? :)

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2) Yes! That was my immediate interpretation, that BK wants to work in Chief Oh's team.

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As lovely as the scene was with Chief Oh & the Newbie Foursome last episode, I think Baekki actually likes his supervisor. They had the (awkward) bonding moment at the sauna, Baekki bought the 'honey' for him and...

the small throwaway comment when the assistant mgr was like "don't only focus on your work, take care of the team's work" and Baekki said "I'm not so good at multitasking" showed that he (baekki) was opening up, being more personable, showing a vulnerability, etc instead of finding things beneath him or not willing to relate to the assistant mgr. .... i dunno. I think he's finally feeling more at home in his team

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i really like the new BK. he no longer annoyed me with his pettiness. he becomes more open, more caring for his fellow newbies.. and that somehow makes the guarded YY to spill her past to him. few episodes ago.. can you picture him buying sandwiches with GR? or even coming over to GR's cubicle and talk?

i think while BK likes working with Mr. Oh, he's better off with the Steel team. he needs a firm guy like AM Kang to guide him to be a better worker.

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@ Kennedy Rose

Yes very probably, Kang is the right boss for him. Got BK's rough edges smoothened out and helped him put his ego a bit more in place.

I was reflecting on the poster of Misaeng with Oh, Dong Shik, GR, YY and SY appearing to be cheering/celebrating ie throwing paper into the air. Interesting that these are the ones (closest subordinates?) who appear with Oh. There is no Chun or Baek Ki in that poster.

There are other posters with Baek Ki but he is not posed as one of the group (more like a model shoot pose) or else he is in a bigger group with Mgr Sun and Chun there as well. So he is not part of the inner circle, but maybe he wants to be?

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@ CZ
I'm glad that after, (is it) 17 months? Baek Ki is finally more comfortable with Mgr Kang. However he has thrown looks over at Sales Team 3 and noticed how Chief Oh treats Geu Rae and his staff. While he respects Kang and wants his approval (after being humbled by him in the beginning), he might like a warmer atmosphere to work in. His feeling towards Oh might be more on the friendly side (which made me wonder if he was serious about being threatened by Oh to help out last week LOL!) while there is still more distance between the meticulous Kang and himself.

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Hehe, I see it the teams as "family" - so while Sales team has a more closer dynamic Baekki doesn't want a new family, he wants a closer, more familiar thing with his asst mgr. A handful of episodes ago, he wanted to ask Kang out for drinks, but felt that there was too much of a distance ---- so while he envies the Sales team's relationships - I didn't read it as he wanting to join them, just that closeness within his own supervisor/team.

After all, Sales Team 3 hasn't had a good rep (nearest to the restrooms) and had a 'scandal' with the whole Park thing. Why would any ambitious overachiever want to go to the 'less promoted' team than stick around with 'steady & dependable' team. It's not the glamorous research team he wanted, but it's not a low-on-the-totem-pole Sales Team 3. ~

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As other people have commented in previous posts, the characters are both good and bad.

I am positive that BK's offer to Oh was his way of letting Sr Mgr Oh that he was interested in working for Sales Team 3. But, coached in a polite way of offering to help, after BK had the sudden realization that GR was already on the chopping block.

BK didn't hesitate to take the opportunity, which is exactly what a businessman would do. Business is not only about buying and selling. It is also making opportunities to buy and sell.

BTW, this 'fiction' isn't so fictitious after all, according to this article:
http://news.yahoo.com/special-report-depleted-oil-field-window-chinas-corruption-000522139--finance.html

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At last the warming up of the cool Baek Ki and the super cool Young Yi. They make a nice pair, whether as friends and confidantes or more. Office romances are generally frowned upon, though, so if it is being hinted at, it will mean keeping everything under wraps or one of the pair have to be transferred :( But let's not put the cart before the horse. It will probably not come to that, at least not in Season 1 :D

Suk Yeol : unfortunately although it's good to see him bouncing around again, he tends to irritate me. I'd really avoid a colleague like him in my own workplace actually.

He's just everywhere people won't want him to be... observing stuff that's supposed to be confidential and jumping to conclusions, which might be accurate ones, but still, he was probably not meant to know so soon.

I hope he will be discreet and that his teasing will not continue endlessly.

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I disagree with the Sukyool assessment. Yes, he is annoying, but as you saw he is now able to show that people need their space. That's why he did not bother Gurae as he would have before.

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Also, I am a little disappointed O2 did not confide in Gurae. I prefer the pairing better than Baekki. I guess that's just me.

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@ Manongja

1)Definitely the 'couple' has to be Chief Oh and Geu Rae. Again, are we faced with a little nobility that might be idiotic in that Chief Oh and team decide to bite the bullet for Geu Rae without taking into account how Geu Rae feels about it? Can they ever truly rejoice in their success and in keeping their team, if they have to sacrifice their integrity? I feel that Chief Oh and even Geu Rae, with their sense of what is right and fair, will be affected by this.

2) Granted that Suk Yeol has become more mature. I wish though that he could be all bubbly without being intrusive and embarrassing others with his comments/questions. But I guess that's what makes Suk Yeol, Suk Yeol and we have to take the person as he is, zits (not literally) and all.

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True! Seok-Yul is embarassing and tactless sometimes, but he's also the first person to rally the troops when he finds that something is wrong with one of his friends. I have friends like that in the office who say things kind of offhandedly, but then are extremely loyal and caring, especially when they see their friends in pain. Seok-Yul gets so defensive about Geu-Rae when no one knows about why he's quiet.

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Also it's telling that everyone is comfortable with Seok-Yul, but they are just now getting comfortable with each other.

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i refer the zany, nosy SY than the zombie, unsmiling SY. as we had agreed before, SY is the glue that hold the newbies together. and it's so nice to see him annoyed at YY & BK for not taking care of their GR. i think BK should have said something..maybe the three of them can help GR somehow. at least, cheer him up a bit.

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@ Kennedy Rose

Yes, I do prefer the happier SY who brings the group together. It is sweet that this same person who disregarded GR in the first few episodes is the same person who is now concerned about him.

If Baek Ki had decided to say anything about why GR looked down, I wonder what it might be... he only knew or made the right guess that Chief Oh was going for the deal to help his team rise and probably to save GR, but as these details was not fully confirmed by Oh, the best BK might be able to say is that: he guesses GR is stressed by the project, whose success will have a great impact on the team. Could he say more than that? :)

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Oh my gosh, I love Geu-Rae. He brings folks together with that male aegyo of his and it works perfectly without guile or selfishness. He is very human and that's why they like him.

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Darn! I meant I love Seuk-Yul! I love Geu-Rae too. But my comment was about Seuk-yul's aegyo.

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LOL! I sort of gathered that. In fact the first time I read your comment I thought I saw the name SY rather than GR!!

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i wonder what kind of shoes Seuk Yul would've bought Young Yi? I bet they would've been amazing quality.

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chuckling..yes!

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Fabric covered shoes that can weather anything? :D

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Suk Yool is probably my favorite character. He is willing to work hard and help the other newbies. He has a lot of expertise on the practical end of things, a sense of fairness towards the factory workers, and professional integrity.

As for his gossipy nature, we have not seen it manifest in any destructive way up til now. The fact that he knows what's happening in every department could actually be a good thing for the company.

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Geu-rae what have you done! I'm just so torn. Me wanting Mr. Oh do even the illegal thing just to make Geu-rae a full time employee and Geu-rae not wanting Mr. Oh go dirty just because of him. sigh. And the preview for the next episode doesn't help either.

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As much as we want GR to be a permanent employee, I don't think he wanted a "tainted job"....He would not be a " proud" member of the result. Besides, who can guarantee that Chief Oh would be promoted? I mean, we are dealing with ED here( ED= Evil Director or Executive Devil)... there's no sweet honey here in the end , but possible more dong/ poo for ST3 to deal with.SIGH

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i agree with you, cingdoc. Mr. Oh had inspired GR so much that the kid loves nothing than following his footsteps as a principled tradingman. to get a job that is tainted with possible kickbacks will do nothing but trouble and regret for the team. i saw the 15s and 30s preview.. and i can't help but wonder, is GR turning in evidence against his own team? why is SY with a camera?

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odilettante ~

Thank you for the recap. I'm really enjoying the show.

Poor Young-yi. Her father is something else. She should buy a life insurance policy on him and hope for the best.

Geu-rae dares to ask "why"? Chief Oh's reaction was priceless.

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Goodbye another box of tissue. Sooooo this is, last two episode of the best drama this year. Fighting Team Sales 3!!!!!

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why does it have to end?

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Right??! TGIF would mean nothing to me once this drama is done....Part of me really want an extension , but I love this show too much that I don't want it to lose its caliber and has filler episodes....Definitely will rewatch it again( and cry again) Oh, MiSaeng, you own me ???

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same here..rewatching the entire series is a must. and investing in a crate of tissues is a good idea too!

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Don't think I could do it, I'd only be able to FF to the safe parts which are less painful, now that I know where they are. I know, I'm such a coward...

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hahahahahaha! come now, GB, let's wade the rivers of tears together!

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Waaaah!!! *paddle paddle* Waaaah!

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I agree Geu Rae has grown up. The rather lost expression with the open mouth has morphed into a more confident, competent expression. He almost looks like someone else. It's very good acting on the part of Im Si won.

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i think Mr. Oh is about to find out that GR can be a pitbull. he might look delicate but we all know he got the will of iron/steel deep within.

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True LOl.

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I was also fascinated to see the details of Young-yi's departure from Sam(s|j)ung: a complicated story as befits this show's dedication to creating very three-dimensional characters.

It wasn't the "simple" sexual harassment we had all feared, but was still something rooted in restrictive gender roles, with the added complication that Young-Yi had developed some feelings for her erstwhile mentor, which really added fuel to her feelings of betrayal.

It was also a lovely moment when this last point was revealed by Baek-ki asking if she liked her Sunbae, and Young-Yi is more wry than defensive. (In terms of storytelling, I thought that was a particularly nice piece of writing, seamlessly combining plot exposition with current character development.) If Baek-ki can manage to become comfortable in lowering his shields and let Young-Yi see some of his weak spots in turn, then I can really believe these two as a real couple, not just an office romance.

Young-Yi always been a little more demonstrably fond of Geu-rae (pointing out his tenacity, etc.), but the fact that the shirt she got Baek-ki really was very expensive (and she'd been noticing whether of not Baek-ki was wearing it) believably suggests a level of consideration lurking under the surface that doesn't require any last minute lurches in Young-Yi's characterization. And this episode showed them making a much deeper connection (or at least starting to) than Young-Yi has with Geu-rae, whom she really does like and respect, but has never really opened up to.

On a related noted, I think the kindergarden teacher is actually just perfect for Geu-rae, in that she totally has his number (literally and figuratively), so I'm not pining for any Geu-rae/Young-Yi pairing.

All of which is a long way of saying: Are we actually going to see a drama were the first female lead winds up with the second male lead?

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"It wasn’t the “simple” sexual harassment we had all feared, but was still something rooted in restrictive gender roles, with the added complication that Young-Yi had developed some feelings for her erstwhile mentor, which really added fuel to her feelings of betrayal."

I honestly never felt like the Samjung guy had harassed Young-yi - in the flashbacks he had before, and his behaviour afterwards never hinted that way for me. I was, though, surprised how Baek-ki was able to figure her out in this (and I'm not sure whether he actually did it for the right reasons).

About Geu-rae/Young-yi, for me, these two got rid of any kind of "romantic" vibes very early into the series. I am a little bit disappointed that their friendship didn't really develop that much, but considering who these two are, it's not surprising.

"All of which is a long way of saying: Are we actually going to see a drama were the first female lead winds up with the second male lead?"

Of course not. Geu-rae is the first female lead here, and he will end up with the first male lead, Mr Oh.

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"I honestly never felt like the Samjung guy had harassed Young-yi – in the flashbacks he had before, and his behaviour afterwards never hinted that way for me."

His persistence in trying reconnect with her, and also to get her to basically be less angry about the events that caused her to quit (i.e. asking her not to "leave like this.") gave me a harraser vibe, but of course YMMV.

"Of course not. Geu-rae is the first female lead here, and he will end up with the first male lead, Mr Oh." -- ahahahahahaha! (Geu-rae does fit the "plucky, poor, and virtuous heroine" mold. All we need now is for Mr. Oh to be revealed as the secret heir to One International's fortunes or to develop amnesia that makes him treat Geu-rae like he's a fresh parachute intern.)

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"His persistence in trying reconnect with her, and also to get her to basically be less angry about the events that caused her to quit (i.e. asking her not to “leave like this.”) gave me a harraser vibe, but of course YMMV."

Yes, he was insistent, but it doesn't seem that he thought he had done something clearly wrong. At the same time, he didn't come off as somebody who thought of subordinate women as fair game. That somehow led me to construct the image of a person who wanted to normalise his relationship with Young-yi, and that he had a not completely invalid point of view that this might be not unacceptable. (Yes, I know, I tend to understand bad guys, especially despicable men.)

"All we need now is for Mr. Oh to be revealed as the secret heir to One International’s fortunes or to develop amnesia that makes him treat Geu-rae like he’s a fresh parachute intern."

Hey, no spoilers for the final two episodes!

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"it doesn’t seem that he thought he had done something clearly wrong" -- that, alas, is exactly the mindset of real-life harrassers, which is why it struck me.

"Hey, no spoilers for the final two episodes!"

Ha!

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Now Jon G. are you hinting at being a bad guy and despicable?

But I also felt that Shin was interested in YY's welfare and glad to know that she had another job. He may have guessed that she had some other feelings for him and maybe he reciprocated (it looked liked he did) but he respected her enough to keep his distance.

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>I am a little bit disappointed that their friendship didn’t really develop that much, but considering who these two are, it’s not surprising.

I am frustrated that NONE of them developed any friendship. They have camaraderie and all but that's as far as it goes. They don't have those great talks and jokes that real friends have. I really wish this series was more about them becoming friends and adults then office politics but it is what it is.

>Of course not. Geu-rae is the first female lead here, and he will end up with the first male lead, Mr Oh.

Priceless. :)

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"I am frustrated that NONE of them developed any friendship"

But what about Dong-Shik and Geu-rae? Dong-Shik is 50 percent of Gue-rae's Twitter following,has been to Gue-rae's house and now knows his mom, while in turn Gue-rae's has been Dong-Shik's post-blind date drinking buddy... :)

"They have camaraderie and all but that’s as far as it goes."

True. But my feeling would be that in many real life offices that is as often as far as it goes, and you're lucky to get even that at some places (for other fictional investigations of this thought, see Tim's speech about "walking about on the same bit of carpet for seven hours a day" on the BBC version of the office, or the discussions about "work friends" vs. "real friends" on Brooklyn 99.) I think it's this emphasis on "kitchen-sink realism" (to use another UK-ism) that has made the show really resonate, with audiences strongly identifying with the characters and their lives. There's no love triangle, let alone love square, and *maybe* one couple in the offing (or two if you count GR and Mr. Oh :) ).

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That dinner was a great scene and it did bring them closer, it's obvious they care for each other but it's still just like a favorite colleague.
I know in offices that is common, it is perhaps even safer to be only a colleague for a hundred reasons but I wanted more just because I miss more friendship stories in kdramaland. :)

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Just because you meet some people everyday doesn't mean you'll build a beautiful friendship. Moreover in office life. As Christina Yang said, "There are no teams here, no buddies. You're on your own. Be on your own." If you find real friends at office, count yourself lucky :)

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Young-yi's Dad! OMG!!! I felt such visceral deep angry hatred for that man. Kudos to the actor playing him. What a horrible shameless (okay, not quite but he is fairly shameless) person!

Loved that Geu Rae "innocently" mentioned this situation to the guy on the other end. Way to work that pseudo-innocence. At least, someone outside the team is aware of Exec Director's horribleness. And loved it that Chun didn't report to the Exec Direc..and became his own man as well. Thanks for the recap.

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Until odilettante mentioned it, I did not notice that YY's father hardly looked her in the eye. I find that shocking in this day when women have contributed so much. He seems to have retained that mysogyny from a bygone era where having sons means everything and girls are considered a loss.

About Chun: Another point I had not considered. Chun could have done any amount of reporting but he did not. Interestingly, in the previous episode, he was more concerned about Geu Rae and asked the ED if anything could be done for him. He did not know that, that request would come back in this form with a possible bite (repercussions) as well as reward.

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I think they copped YoungYi's Dad's ancient way of thinking to him being in the military, where, obviously, a majority of the recruits are male and where many of the people in power are male.

I believe that he wanted a son to follow in his footsteps, but he just ended up having YoungYi, a girl.

She was never really useful to him, until she started making money for him. And that's all she ever became to him.

And the prize for the World's Most Butthurt Dad goes to YoungYi's dad. Seriously, dude, it's been 20+ years. Can't you see what you got instead of lamenting about what you think you should have gotten? Why don't you go through some womb-donation-surgery and give birth to your own boy, seriously.

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seriously, YY should dumped that bowl of rice & soup on his head. and the side dishes too. what an awful father.. treating his only child as an atm!

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The problem now is that dad has found his atm and will keep coming for withdrawals. I hope YY does not have to run away to hide from him. *getting angry at the thought*

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Trouble is that losers like Young Yi's dad only think about what they didn't get. So, he has no concept of being happy with what he has, which is an amazing daughter.

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He's also, probably, ashamed that he keeps taking money from his daughter. People who think in such traditional ways expect to have a son as their security and think of daughters as the ones who will cook, clean, and marry well. So, taking money from a daughter is likely shameful to him, even though he keeps doing it, though he'd probably be happy enough if she was stocking the fridge with homemade kimchi and side dishes every day.

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I have to agree with Kennedy Rose, he looked like he took it as his due. Seemed to be a, 'You're not a boy, so you'd better make up for it' kind of attitude.

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wonder if that's why YY is kinda tomboyish as she's growing up. she started to have longer hair when she worked for samjung..

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Yeah, that's what I got from him too, which just made me want to hurl rocks in his face.

I was an ex-softball player, so I can hurl a good one.

*WHACK!* *my satisfaction*

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The short haired YY did look and dress like a boy, probably to appeal more to her dad (who would have been repulsed by a girly girl). I did get that vibe as well.

She was coping as any child would, she would have wanted the approval of her parent... *makes me so mad again just thinking* It's a great tribute to her mental and emotional strength that she was able to develop and become the adult that she is. She may have to give in, in the end to her dad, but she has preserved her self-worth to a fair degree.

I wonder if Mgr Shin from Samjung thought he was helping YY by helping her dad, and found that in the end it all blew up in his face. I had the feeling that he might have liked her too and was regretful that any possibility of working/friendly relationship had come to an end.

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The sad thing is that it is precisely those who have the attitude you described who are the ones most likely to become and remain losers. To blame others, to justify self, to bully... broadly speaking, it is as if they know they are incomplete and want others to complete them, when the road to self-worth is to work at it oneself (with a bit of help) and to own both the failures and the successes.

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I wonder: if Young Yi gets married, can she then be off her family registry and not be obliged to pay her parents anything?

Also, can she, as a single woman, get off the family registry and start her own?

I have a feeling in SK that's not possible.

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In Asian culture it is very, very hard. The pull of familial ties not to mention filial piety is real even for the modern son/daughter. There is also the censure of society for not taking care of family. Family includes generations before as well as generations after.

A colleague once said being married with kids makes her the sandwich generation. Sandwiched between parents and in-laws who have some claims on her/us and children who depend on us. We kinda have to provide for both if necessary.

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The sandwich generation is a pretty common concept and every generation goes through it. The goes on to being taken care of. It's part of life...and in places like China for instance where there is only one child, the sandwiching is harder because the child often has to take care of aunts and uncles as well.

But the generational thing in Asian cultures is very hard. I remember an episcopalian priest from my church who married a Japanese woman. Her family had to disown her because the salvation of the ancestors depended on her honoring them and ancestor worship. And if a living family member was no longer honoring them --because she had become christian-- where would the ancestor's salvation and life come from?

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LOL, that's not possible.

A woman, once married, in the olden times, was treated like water that's thrown out. But that doesn't mean that she's cut her ties with her birth family, especially if she's from the upper class (and even more if her marriage was one to seal/strengthen power).

In Korea, she doesn't take on her husband's family name (is that a form of excluding her? I don't know) and her children do not take on her family name.

In other words, her influence is cut, but her duties only increase.

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What a conundrum. If chief Oh saves GueRae no one will be happy. If team 3 fails to expose that Poshin is a shell company, to save GueRae, then GR will quit as he will be too burdened to stay on. How can we have a happy ending here?

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I know Chief Oh was trying to knock some sense into Geu-rae, to show that what they do here isn’t all about him (even though it totally is, right? Right?!?).

No.

I understand rooting for the underdog and all, but I sometimes feel that people think that the world revolves around Jang GeuRae, and that any one who gets in GeuRae's way is a big bad baddie, which obviously is not so. Honestly, whether Jang GeuRae breathes or not, the world will still rotate about its axis and life will still go on.

I admit that rescuing GeuRae is a rather big part of Chief's Oh's decision to take up the project, but he is not the SOLE reason he did so. Actually, to me, GeuRae was being really rude when he questioned Chief Oh like that. As if Chief Oh only has a one track mind and can't see the traps. As if Chief Oh was a newbie. As if Jang GeuRae knows everything and what steps to take just because he's was great at baduk. I found it laughable that GeuRae thought that Executive Director would screw the company up just to take Chief Oh down. That was so childish.

Oh did not become Deputy Director just by blindly doing anything and everything.

Executive Director's power is directly related to the stability of the company he's working for, One International.

GeuRae still has a long way to go.

And therefore, I was so FURIOUS that he took AND RECORDED Chief Oh's Chinese contact's call all while CONFRONTING him ON THE COMPANY'S OFFICIAL TELEPHONE LINE. LIKE, WHAT THE HELL JANG GEU RAE?! As Chief Oh once said, there is nothing more scary/detrimental than a newbie trying to do more than 100%. GeuRae really crossed the line here.

To repeat what I said last recap, who is this new person and what have they done to my Baekki, haha. This new human being is so different from the up-strung, defensive robot, heh.

You know, on principle, bosses should be given more credit for simply being of a higher rank (and therefore knowing more and being wiser, assuming that they earned it), but I'm not sure what SukYul's big boss is doing. So there's a new clause in the contract implementing a fine for late delivery for the company which is currently facing so many of such lawsuits and you still think it's enough to continue using them? Really?

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SukYul's big boss is turning a blind eye and taking the easy way out.

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I think not just a blind eye, because the manager doesn't need to go into every single detail of every single contract/order. Otherwise, why have any employees under him? He relies on his team to work & to do the prep and he trusts in what assistant manager says b/c that's how the assistant mgr for that team played it. He's all "trust me, i took care of it" and because of his interpersonal skills, the manager was like "i can depend on him."

Like remember, the assistant mgr was like "i'll train Seok-Yul, I'll look over the report before I go home tonight." and then as soon as the manager left, he too headed out for drinks, leaving Seok-Yul to do all the work. So his M.O. has always been to say the 'right, nice' thing and then take credit from someone else. All the boss sees then is this guy, who gets stuff done & is respectful and flattering with his words.

I mean, that's how it was in the earlier episodes....but now as time has passed in the drama - the manager (and we) can see that the assistant manager has made some bad calls (like the overworked factory orders) but his track record, one assumes, has been 'successful' jobs.

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But the problem is that SukYeol's big boss knows that the company habitually delays deliveries. If you were the boss, would you accept such a company, or would you simply believe that the late deliveries will stop with a simple "fine"?

If those deliveries are meant to be shipped overseas, I believe that there's a set deadline that those products have to come out by or they'll miss the ship... which means huge losses for the fabric team. And they've already incurred some debt by utilizing unplanned/un-budgeted-for external vendors. Can they afford to lose more?

I'm quite surprised that this is not sending out red flashing danger signal's to SukYeol's big boss.

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@Peeps Maybe it does raise red flags for SY's manager, but he's too complacent to do anything about it and decided to 'trust' the Assistant Manager so as not to rock the boat. He does seem to have perfected the 'hands off' approach with his subordinates. When compared to Chief Oh, his management style is uninvolved. He may be one of those who want to do the minimum work for the maximum output. I certainly see him as someone who is contributing to Assistant Manager Sung's cavalier attitude. If Sung had a more involved and observant boss, he would think twice before doing some of the things he does to SY.

SY is right to suspect bribery, first AM Sung lets this contract go through with an unreliable supplier, next he's buying a very expensive car, it does raise a flag. But because his manager trusts him, it's all right, I guess (sarcasm).

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True, I think Chief Oh is doing it for Dong Shik as well but he really does want Geu Rae to have a job as well. And Dong Shik has given his opinion about the danger. So why shouldn't Geu Rae give his opinion as well. I don't think it's rude at all. It's a father/son discussion/fight. How else do you honor a father figure you disagree with? You have to trust each other enough to fight. Consider the encounter with Young Yi's dad. No ability to really fight there. Because there is no love or respect between them to honor each other with a good fight.

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DongShik asked why Oh was doing this.

GeuRae basically cut in before Oh could finish his question and demanded whether Oh was doing the sketchy project because of him.

It was not just about giving opinions. It was the delivery too and GeuRae's tone was not respectful at all. To me, it was impatient, frustrated and exasperated. His unspoken assumption was that Oh was stupid enough to blindly risk everything just for him alone. His assumption is that he's not worth it.

"I'm saying this out of concern that I might have affected your judgement."

His assumption is that Oh is currently being very stupid. And that's not what I call not rude. His tone then was accusatory.

Also, Oh is not GeuRae's father. He's GeuRae's boss.

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I understand that GeuRae's mother was not married to Chief Oh and that Geu Rae is not Chief Oh's son. However, the story has created the parent subtext. Therefore I am working with the theme that has been presented in the story and in this particular episode.

In this episode, we are presented with the workplace as a place where relationships fall between family and strangers. A team is a construct and we have seen betrayals, sacrifices, protections all layered into the relationships.

Odilettante mentioned the rebelliousness of a teenager. This is correct. In addition, we are shown Young Yi who has never really rebelled against her father. We are shown Seuk Yul protecting a boss (father image) out of loyalty. This is not something one would do with a stranger one who has actively treated one like dirt. But the idea of the workplace as the "second family" makes relationships complicated. There is also the ultimate father image Exec Director whom Chief Oh says "would not hurt his company" because betraying the family one is supposedly taking care of is the ultimate betrayal of boss. However, as we have seen in this dysfunctional family called "a workplace" there are some folks who lack family feeling and who want the friendship and loyalty of underlings without deserving it.

So..yeah.. Geu Rae is quite allowed to talk back and argue with his father/boss. Rebelliousnes is part of all families...biological or professional. Children don't know everything and GR is being the all-knowing teenager of course. But blind obedience to a father/boss is not healthy. As we can see in the relationship between Exec Dir and Chief Oh, between Young Yi and Dad. Seuk Yul is also challenging his "superior" although his superiors's manager dotes on Seuk Yul's immediate superior. It's all politics but it's family politics. And that is how people grow. We do not want Geu Rae to end up like Cheif Oh...even if ending up like Cheif Oh is what has to happen to an honest employee.

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I never said that GeuRae couldn't challenge Oh. It's just that he didn't have to be so rude about it.

It's nice to think of your workplace as your second family, but your workplace is your workplace and your colleagues are just your colleagues, not your family. There needs to be some distance.

In the workplace, your boss is not there to pamper you or take in your rebelliousness. He, ultimately, is not your family and not your all understanding, all loving, father.

Also, SukYeol did not protect Sung's face out of loyalty. It's just an Asian thing to let people "save face" or feel their wrath.

And Exec Director would not hurt the company not because he feels like they're his family but because his livelihood and his money, his power, even his position, is rooted to the company. If the company gets a hit, he as someone high up in the ranks will also be hit.

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I've worked in companies and schools. Stuff happens. It's a defacto family with everyone working around everyone's personalities...even bosses.

And are you saying Seuk Yul is trying to save the boss's face? Remember this is the Seuk Yul who totally embarrassed Geu Rae in front of everyone at the presentation. I understand the fear of someone's wrath if we make them lose face and I agree that Geu Rae's boss has declared that Geu Rae can never win over him. And yes, there is some face-saving going on. But we have seen Chief Oh and others destroy the careers of bad guys and we have seen the female stressed boss "think of her guys as family" and yet they never helped her -- and were waiting for her to lose face-- by not finishing the proposal for her. We have also seen Young Yi's co-workers all stand up to their boss and making him lose face by telling him not to touch their bodies. So saving face is not so cut and dried in One International.

There is the Asian culture, the work culture, the culture of family, the corporate culture, personality issues...PLUS the theme the writer is depicting. The writer is not depicting a pure unsullied world where all cultures and ethics exist apart from each other. There is messy merging here.

I am not a lover of teenage rebellion by the way. I do think teenagers are know-it-all. But in the context of this story, with the themes this writer is working with, with the characterizations he has drawn for each employee at One International, with the juxtaposition of other scenes and other episdoes....Geu Rae did what was necessary to put the plot ahead. The writer has choreographed and built the story..going so far as to make the Exec Director responsible for a girl's suicide. The writer does not want the viewer to remember that the Exec Director needs to be stopped. And if an immature innocent rebellious type is to be our revolutionary...then so be it! This is the story we are given.

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Yikes! Aish, my brain this afternoon.

The writer WANTS the viewer to remember that Exec Director is responsible for a suicide.

Exec Director is out to destroy Chief Oh; Exec Director is the greatest baduk player of all. He is ready to destroy Chief Oh and Cheif Oh is subtly challenging him. Now, maybe Geu Rae doesn't know how far Cheif Oh will go with the taping. But it's also possible that a baduk player is what we need right now. And cheif oh is no baduk player. Geu Rae is.

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I'm gonna have to call a truce on this because I still don't agree with you, but I'm off my computer and on my phone now. And phones are not very conducive gadgets to wrote long paragraphs with.

Of course, you're free to have your opinion and I'll just keep mine. But I think that the moment that you have to use a story's progression as explanation for a plot point, it fails.

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It's not a question of truce or no truce. It's what the writer is doing in the episode.

Everything in this episode is about challenging one order of things and doing what one's heart wants to do.

The kindergarten teacher goes out of her comfort zone and is forward with a man; it's hard for a woman to do that.

Young Yi goes out of her comfort one and finally tells her heart to her father. It's something that is hard for a daughter to do, especially a daughter who feels guilty because she wasn't a boy..a daughter who has allowed her father to take advantage of her. She even relates how she had snapped at her former boss...something she should not have done. And even her father went out of bounds when he had spoken to Young Yi's boss about money and actually took money from Shin.

Geu Rae goes out of the "natural order" of things and confronts Cheif Oh.

Heck, even Baek Ki confronts himself.

So it's not about agreeing or not agreeing or even a truce. I am simply saying everyone in this episode is dealing withe the confusion of relatedness and with confrontations. So it seems silly to peg Geu Rae as rude and to say he's not doing the proper thing when everyone in this episode isn't doing the proper thing. And it's possible the improper thing might be the right thing to do. It seems a bit rigid to me...and it's a refusal to see the overall arc of the episode.

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Sure.

Like I said, your opinion is yours and my own view is mine.

I felt that GeuRae was rude and so, to me, he was rude, irregardless of what the other characters in the story were doing. Irregardless of it's impact on the story. I'm just judging his actions then with my own experience and understanding, no more, no less.

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I so agree with you. I saw no rudeness in Geu Ray at all. Just concern for the repercussions his boss and teat would have to face for a dangerous decision made in large part to save hitself.

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i belived the dude was the same guy Geu Rae told Oh was ok to ask to investigate things up about China things, (resident employee or something he talked before),so he called back to report other details and even was told he will tell Oh the discussion recorded...

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That was okay, until he started confronting the guy on record.

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I so love that this is on record. Exec Director and all sneaky tyrants get away with a lot of stuff because it's done between the lines and off the record. We shouldn't forget -- as the Exec Director has-- that someone killed himself because of Exec Director's gameplaying. So yeah, someone outside of the immediate One International corporate building and outside the team knows that Exec Director was the one who set up this greedy little scam.

So it's on the record machine and it's in the ears of the other guy on the other end of the phone. Sneaky of Geu Rae and I'm hoping his baduk moves made him ponder all the possible ramifictions and future counter moves by everyone involved. But something has to be done to get bullying Exec Director to stop.... and to protect the team........even if Exec Director bares an eternal/dangerous grudge. when he finds out

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wait. i'm confused. why so worked up over the recording that GR made? i thought Mr. Oh said to record every calls regarding the china item. so, what GR did is not wrong, right? or did i misinterpret that?

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It's not so much the recording but GR talking about the elephant in the room..and taping the conversation about the elephant in the room. This is what is so wonderful and great about Geu Rae's action. He exposed the dirty family secret. And he has a record of having exposed the family secret. Of course, the ish might hit the fan in the next episode but....at least at this little moment of time, I have a big lovely happy grin on my face. Yes, Geu Rae has gone rogue and I loooooooove it.

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He meant to record every correspondence made with Poshin with regards to their Solar Panel Business. This is to collect evidence of their business with Poshin and prevent unexpected clauses from turning up, such as the required use of an agent and a further increase in their commission of 2.5%.

The call with One International's China staff was supposed to be made secretly, as a means for Chief Oh to find out the entire scope, depth and circumstances surrounding the currently fishy project, because Chief Oh currently feels like he's being duped and something's being hidden from him. That's why you saw Chief Oh talking to the China staff on his own personal mobile phone instead of using the company's official land line.

In this case, he's going against both the Executive Director and the Sales Department's Head and this is where he has to thread carefully. This is not the case of taking down a comrade. It's taking down very key personnel of the corporate with power very much greater than Chief Oh's. (For reference, see SukYeol's brush with rashness regarding Mr Sung and you'll know what happened.) One mis-step and his whole team goes drowning. Also, recordings are not just used to pin down the opponent, sometimes, it can come back to bite you in the ass. And accusing the Executive Director of such a huge corporation is no small thing. It's like he's giving the Executive Director a bullet.

When GeuRae confronted the guy on recording, he was dealing with sensitive questions and topics, which is why the China staff did not reply.

Sometimes, attacking undercover is more effective than charging straight on. In this case, GeuRae just undermined whatever Chief Oh's strategy might have been by confronting on record.

Honestly, if they wanted to confront the Executive Director, it would have to be a team effort, in order not to alert the Executive Director. But well, now GeuRae's gone rouge and blown the whole thing up. It's like he's exposed an undercover operation. In this case, am I supposed to say "Well done"?

In my opinion, if he didn't understand something, he should have trashed it out with his own superiors instead of babbling to "outsiders".

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While I agree with you, there is one problem I see:
Geu-rae IS the centre of the universe. Look, when they realise in what kind of mess they are in, they team (sans GR) have a discussion on the roof-top. Turns out nobody cares for their own careers, the company or anything as long as GR might have a chance (well, Mr Chun keeps his arguments rather opaque).

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Yeah, that's one problem I've recently started having with Misaeng. I just didn't think that everyone else would be sucked into it either. Am I just giving people too much credit? Or is Misaeng not as real as I thought it was (At least regarding Jang GeuRae)?

There's rooting for the underdog and there's believing the underdog is always right.

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You obviously haven't been paying attention to the show. GR confronted Chief Oh about the project because he has witnessed Chief Oh being reckless. From the very beginning Chief Oh tried to help and defend everybody which sometimes got him in trouble. This is the reason he has not gone up the corporate ladder. Also remember GR was there when Chief Oh was talking about the girl and how he cannot give GR hope. He knows he reminds Chief Oh of the girl and how that event affected him.

If you see it as rude go ahead but I would say he is more worried, he is afraid that because of him all of them could suffer. Chief Oh has become a father figure to GR or don't you remember the scene where Chief Oh left and they were looking for him? GR was reminded of when his father died. You could also argue that Chief Oh sees GR as his son, he protects him and remember he told somebody once if you mess with GR is like you are messing with me. The people you work with also become your second family. I don't know were you have worked but in most cases this becomes true. You see them 8 hours if not more a day and sometimes they know more about you than your own family. Besides this particular world does revolve around GR, since it is mainly about his struggles. The people that get in his way at least by me are not seen as villains...

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Some of then are a*sholes though. From the beginning they did show us that he was a parachute worker and that it was unfair for the other workers, but that didn't give them the right to prank him as if they were in high school. In the beginning BK wasn't at least to me likable but I understood were he was coming from and why he acted the way he did. I started to like him when he started to understand that he wasn't the best at everything and that he was not always right. By the way the character I saw myself the most as from the beginning was BK. I would have acted the same way he did if a person had come from nowhere without a diploma that I worked hard for and gotten the job. Maybe that is why I didn't like him because I saw what I could become. What I am trying to say is that even if they could be seen as villains the show did a pretty good job making us understand their point of view and that they are human. The corporate world is full of good and bad people, of course the show is going to focus on both because if they only showed us the good people it would be less realistic.

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Totally agree. And it is also quite possible that Geu Rae can win this. When someone does an obviously wrong/improper move then one must respond with the right move. Thhat's something Geu Rae learned in Baduk.

Cheif Oh is a sweetie but he has been so locked in this horrible "game" with a master-player who has more power that maybe Cheif Oh cannot get out of it. Cheif oh has been suffering a lot at the hand of Exec Director...and Cheif Oh has NEVER won against Exec Drector. Maybe it's another case of Geu Rae seeing a way out because he is totally new to the culture....a way the Cheif could never have seen. Or maybe Cheif Oh saw that possibility but never thought of using it. Either way, I'm with Geu Rae.

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And well he should be! Heroes are the center of the universe. Stories are about heroes. This drama has been pretty generous in showing the ensemble. But the ensemble is there to shed light on situations so we understand the hero's Journey better.

Stories are manipulations. They are created to show heroes. This is about a working class hero... and they have done a good job in flipping the hero trope while honoring it. It really is silly to say that there is a problem because the hero of a story is the center of the universe. Heroes ARE the center of their story's universe. Geu-Rae is there to overhear important conversations that concern him. Cheif Oh is there to overhear conversations that concern him. Tht is creative manipulation...and that's how stories are made. And.... Everything is done to shed light on the main character'ss choices, environment, etc.

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I'm not saying that having GeuRae at the center of the story is wrong. I'm just saying that I'm not comfortable with everyone falling over themselves for his sake, aka, what he's accusing Oh of doing. I'm also uncomfortable with the numerous comments (not just yours) which project the belief that GeuRae is all-knowing and never wrong. That GeuRae has to win allllllllllllll the time.

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Center of the Story =/= Center of the Universe.

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Well he is the main character, if we are not to root for him then who? After all the character has been through is kind of hard not to root for him and maybe want luck to be on his side for once. However the fact that we root for him doesn't mean that he always does the right thing either. He makes mistakes like any human person would. In the beginning of the series he didn't know everything they had to teach him and show him. They have explained how after his father's death he practically gave up on becoming a professional Baduk player, and ran off to enlist in the military.

He practically left his mom in the hardest moments and went, I believe selfishly, to enlist only caring about his grief. He was never portrayed as this perfect person. Remember when his uncles went to his house for the holidays? His mom told him to leave because she knew his uncles were going to talk bad about all the mistakes he had made. He even admits he made mistakes, he admits that in his 26 years he hasn't done anything. The first thing he thinks when he overhears his mom talking to his uncles is "don't make excuses for me". Even Chief Oh has had to tell him not to be selfish and not to feel sorry for himself. Is GR perfect and always right? No, but that is what the story is about, about how he uses all those years of Baduk training to his favor, how he learns to make the right moves and survive the life of working in the office. Chief Oh is doing the project for various reasons, he feel guilty about the death of the girl and he feels this is a way of redeeming himself. He is thinking about GR but I think he is also trying to make peace with himself. He is also trying to help his other team members. He is doing something that goes against his morals because he is noticing how his past actions have affected his team. The other members agreed to do it because they want to help GR but also because it could also bring benefits for them, it is a risk they are willing to take.

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Center of the story = Center of the story's universe

This is how story telling works, they give you a character you can relate to, unless is an antihero (which sometimes you can also relate to if the writer is good). Then they give you a struggle that our hero has to overcome. They give you all this cool side characters that may even have a more interesting story than our hero, but the story will be mainly about our hero, whether we like it or not. You can dislike the hero and his actions but regardless the story will always come back to him/her because they are the character the writer has decided to concentrate their attention on.

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@Blueribbon

"Well he is the main character, if we are not to root for him then who?"

It's a bit more complex, isn't it? There are stories where the main character is there to root against him (and others where the main character is a kind of necessary evil that you cannot really root for either): Dorian Gray, Death Note, 24, to give you a few ideas ...

Of course, there ARE stories where the main character is always right (even when they are wrong, the universe will make it right eventually), and the K-drama genre is almost always telling these kind of stories.

"He makes mistakes like any human person would."

In fact, he makes a lot of mistakes that many others would. He takes more risks than others (Capt. Jang) despite the fact that he cannot actually cope with these risks, and he sometimes makes rather stupid decisions. He is ignorant of a lot of things that happen around him. He is, in fact, rather incompetent (both professionally as well as in terms of personal relationships).

Now, of course he is designed to be that way, because people in the audience can relate to him that way (because, let's face it, often we feel insecure and incompetent, emotionally we are much closer to Geu-rae than to Young-yi).

That's a staple story telling device, but you have to be careful with it. It may turn against you when your "hero" needs to actually solve his problems. The show uses accidental insight solutions a lot, maybe even too often, to the point where it feels like Geu-rae is not really solving his problems, he is just lucky.

"Is GR perfect and always right? No, but that is what the story is about, about how he uses all those years of Baduk training to his favor, how he learns to make the right moves and survive the life of working in the office."

He is, objectively speaking, mostly wrong, but because all the good guys support him and because he is always lucky when he needs his luck, he is always right at the end.

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"Center of the story = Center of the story’s universe"

No.
First of all, he is not really the centre of the story. He is the main "point of view" of the story, but in terms of plot, he is a more peripheral character compared to Mr Oh, for example.
Second, just because you are the protagonist doesn't mean the fictional reality of the story is warping to fit your fate.
One of the major strengths of the show, in my opinion, is that it involves so many well fleshed out characters and, very unusual for K-drama, character _development_. The dynamic of the fab four is NOT centred around Geu-rae. The dynamic between the Sales teams is not centred around Geu-rae. The dynamic between Mr Oh and the ED has Geu-rae as one of many different aspects. Etc. pp.

"This is how story telling works, they give you a character you can relate to, unless is an antihero (which sometimes you can also relate to if the writer is good)."

Or you have a villain protagonist, or you have protagonist that's not supposed to be relatable at all, or you have a protagonist who isn't the hero of the story, or you have a hero ensemble, or you have a television show where there isn't one single hero protagonist or cohesive group at all, or ...

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i wonder if GR is thinking of quitting one international... the way he asked his mom about the public works she had to give up.. i think he rather quit than letting his team doing things that is not unethical. i think he's going all out ; it all or nothing.

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Yep, I think that's what the question was about. Not so much about quitting, but about taking a risk.

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Curious what the Honey Dude stole from Team 3 or One Int. Jordan Team that made them look for him in ep 1

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I was curious if that was the same Seo guy in the first episode that Geu-Rae was chasing aroud in Cairo.

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it's the same only more shabby,new it was him when he talked first when trying to sell them the so called deer honey and saying he doesn't sleep in hotels when traveling(that's how Geu rae knew he wouldn't find hi in big known hotels)...and Geu Rae it's working with the assistant of the director or what he was from One Int. Jordan...

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ooh wow! the plot thickens! And how does the pen come in? Someone learns to steal small things...then learns to steal big things. Scam me once shame on me, scam me twice shame on you. But who would trust this guy after the honey and pen theft? And who would trust a guy who would ostensibly steal his friend's pen?

So wish Geu Rae had reported it...but I'm sure he'll keep that theft in the back of his mind.

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I was wondering the same thing. This shady deal is all about China, that guy is the manager of the China factory. Will this all lead us back to the chase in Ep1?
As to GR, isn't he just afraid MO is trying to right past wrongs by saving him, because he didn't or couldn't save the other intern?
And MO, maybe he is just doing what he has to do to find out what's at the bottom of that can of maggots.

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My favourite scene was, once again, one of the smaller and less important ones: Baek-ki handing Young-yi the shoes.
The director likes to use a depth of field effect very heavily, and I think this scene is one of the better examples how it can be used for effective scene design without taking over. The medium shot camera is used throughout the scene, with Baek-ki and Young-yi on either side of the screen and the lighted walkway in the middle. When Young-yi unpacks the shoes, a blurred figure emerges in the background and you know immediately that it is Seok-yul, because of his unique movement pattern.

(There are many other great scenes, like the one early in the episodes where Mr Oh is in the ED's office and, this time, he takes the seat close to the head of the table, referring to a similar scene in an earlier episode about "the one who died".)

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i loooove hearing your cinematic take on these scenes!

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yeah, I like how we know who is approaching, even before he comes into focus. I also liked the detail in that scene that Baek Ki cannot resist trying to help her open the shoe box, like a little kid at a birthday party who needs to help you open his present.

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Thanks for the great recap (I'll really miss these ;__;)! Chief Oh and Geu-rae's rooftop scene was heartbreaking, I can think of many Kdrama OTPs that don't have a fraction of the chemistry and believable angst they shared at that moment :p

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Thanks for the great recap odilettante!

I loved Young-yi suggesting they eat blood soup after the horror movie, and Baek-ki saying I'm not quite ready for that. I'm enjoying their gentle, caring relationship as it develops. Quiet understanding and affectionate joshes.

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I am wondering why the Go metaphors have disappeared. Did GR change his thinking so much that he longer has a special Go filter?

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i thought so too. i missed all those baduk wisdoms.

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Honestly, I think that the writers are juggling too many balls and dropped the "baduk" ball.

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I'm not to sure why everyone is so nervous for GR ... episode 1 pretty assures us that he'll be around for a while.

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Perhaps the question is, GR is still around, but at what cost? What has the runaway Seo done that makes GR so desperate to catch him, that he risks his life jumping from a roof to a balcony.

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also, i'm dying to know if GR still with ST3 or is he sent to Jordan to work there? when did he learn English? what happened to ST3 after the china case? will all be rosy between team members?

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That is the greatest isdue issue weighs on my mind. Just WHEN does Geu Rae learn English. Lol

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Hmm, he has a few months left before he starts that Amman/Jordan stint. Must have squeezed English classes in after work somehow.

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mebbe he got the full timer post...coz full timers can get english lessons or something, right? can't exactly remember what that HR fella said in ep. 14.

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That time the guy was talking to all 4 newbies without discrimination, so I guess even as a temp, GR is entitled or expected to improve himself? Then he could have gone for those beginner English lessons.

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the cost it seems..VERY pricey! just get ready with a face towel.. instead of tissues. trust me.. my poor heart can't take it anymore.

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I have to say, with his several yards thick plot armour, I don't feel any kind of suspense for Geu-rae, even when I ignore the ep1 stuff.

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Thanks you for the recap!

This was probably the least explosive episode for me, now that I think back it was also the most boring for me because we weren’t experiencing new events, but more building upon issues that have been constantly suppressed since the beginning of the show. But I understand we're building up the momentum for the finale soon, so all chess pieces need to be in place.

YY’s father obviously knows how crap of situation he is in, but I would like to think what he feels worst about is the fact that he was the reason why YY left Samjung. I mean working there was such a golden opportunity for her, yet because of him she left. He probably feels he sabotaged her future to an extent. Of course that guilt isn’t still doesn’t stop him from trying to get money from her, but he seems to understand his situation a lot better compared to the past. Contray to what many think, I feel he doesn’t look at YY not because he doesn’t treat her right, but maybe because he’s a bit ashamed of his current situation to look at her anymore?

SY seems annoying, but I think he’s at a comfortable annoying level with everyone. If it was in the beginning of the series and he saw BK give YY the shoes, he’d make a scene out of it. However here he just goes with the flow, and just comments on how she needed those shoes. He didn’t mock BK or anything, even though he has a gist of BK’s feelings. This goes to show how understanding he is now since he knows the others better.

GR and SY seem more comfortable with each other most likely due to their past presentation experience. I’m not suprised YY didn’t confide to Gr, because it’s a situation he most likely wouldn’t be able to connect with. SY would’ve just gossiped away being how nosy he is, while BK seemed the most relatable and understanding.

I just realised Legend of Korra is ending this week, and so is Misaeng. How am I gonna survive the feels?

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I think SY is TOTALLY aware of the undercurrents between BK and YY. In the break room, I love how he maneuvered BK into heaving that water bottle up there, ("ooh, look how manly!") and petted his gift-shirt and then left.

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Yesssss, at first I was real nervous that SY wouldn't let it go and say something blatantly obvious to embarrass them. However he manoeuvred the whole thing really well.

You can kinda tell YY and BK get a bit nervous whenever SY sees them two together haha

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Definitely shipper on deck.
I wasn't sure how he knew about the shirt, though. I don't think he should have known that Young-yi bought it for Baek-ki, but the way he praised the shirt definitely felt like he knew.

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he's the office ahjumma, remember? he has that internal radar that can sense something is up.

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Two things: either the Executive Director wants to rope Chief Oh into becoming just like him (dirty) that way Chief Oh will no longer have a reason to have a righteous indignation against ED for what he did to that temp employee and the shady way he does business; or the ED wants Chief Oh to be dirty so he can point the finger at Chief Oh for outing Mr. Park when Chief Oh was just like him. Either way this is entrapment and Chief Oh would be wise to abstain from the deal.

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I actually think that the ED meant it when he said that he sometimes likes that Mr Oh is the way he is. The ED has the "senior management syndrome", a total lack of empathy (at least in a professional context), a general lack of seeing coworkers and subordinates as human beings. Which is why they are so successful in managing other people.

Mr Oh is a special snowflake, one that might cause trouble a lot, but who/that is also very useful for certain tasks.

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Yes, I feel that the ED sees Oh as the perfect fall guy if things go South. Useful in getting his team to get the job done and done well, but who can be discarded without loss to ED, if he refuses to cooperate or fails.

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ahem. moral of the story..DON'T trust handsome, distinguished-looking boss who can sweet-talked anybody!

just saying.

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Sob! I love handsome, distinguished-looking men... can't I just listen to the sweet talk? Admire that forehead, that line of jaw, that... sorry...

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*giggle..giggle* don't forget those steely eyes, that half-smile..and that soft voice...enough to melt any lady's heart!

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*Melted goop*

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I quit watching Misaeng. They ruined everything.
Now I officially hate the director and the writer, especially the writer. She ruined the drama and destroyed the characters. Especially female characters.

In the original story, female characters have their own problems to survive in a men's world yet they are not typical Cinderellas in kdramas who wait for men's help. That's why female readers loved them so much. But in drama they gave it up all. Even the writer is female, too, but she doesn't have any understandings for these characters(and any will to understand), respect for the original, ability to create her own smart story, insight to follow entire storyline.

Here's some translations of original webtoon :

(spoilers! And translation sucks. Sorry)

http://mkcl.kr/img/etc/e1.jpg
http://mkcl.kr/img/etc/e2.jpg
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These scenes were neglected by the director and writer event though they're very important and characters are now just another female characters in kdrama.
It seems like YY is following the original story, but the scene with BK, YY suddenly confessing her past and the emotions between Mr.Shin and her? They made YY stupid little girl who can be easily shaken by a tiny thing. Why did they make a poster for her using sentence "Step on me, and your feet will get hurt"? Male characters stepped on her and she's the one who lost.
I don't understand why Chief Oh suddenly became a hero for Ms.Sun and BK made a love line with YY(And BK became an idiot now). And other characters including GR..I'll forget about it.

I'm really sad that one and only drama I loved this year is making a miserable ending. Bring my four newbies back...

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(remove http:// and try if you can't see the images)

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Where did you get the English translation of webtoon of Misaeng? :( please share
Thank you

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i translated it by myself to show you these scenes..there's no translated version of the original webtoon yet.

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http://mkcl.kr/mi.php

I made this page for better reading..

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i swear... im biting back my words because
BAEKKI AND YOUNGYI JUST GET WITH IT AND HAVE CORPORATE-SLAVE BABIES BECAUSE SHFOEIHGIERHGSLKDHS

i swore i'd stop watching when romance happens BUT THESE TWO.

just.

kiss.

now.

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to bad that they droped the gr baduk wisdom
is it me or did the made gr at the end more stupid
(buying underpants and socks,recording the phone call without thinking of the consequences)
where was his strategic thinking ?

oh and i never liked the stalker bk,yy story line :)

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Thanks for the recap!

“At the obvious product placement sandwich shop...” ― odilettante
Better for it to be PPL for the fast food restaurant franchise Subway than cigarettes.

"Fall seven times, stand up eight." ― Japanese proverb

"The gem cannot be polished without friction, nor man perfected without trials." ― Chinese proverb

“You may encounter many defeats, but you must not be defeated. In fact, it may be necessary to encounter the defeats, so you can know who you are, what you can rise from, how you can still come out of it.” ― Maya Angelou

"The greater the difficulty, the more glory in surmounting it. Skillful pilots gain their reputation from storms and tempests." ― Epictetus

"Problems are not stop signs, they are guidelines." ― Robert Schuller

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+1, five stars for our Puppy and his Chief.

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