Cantabile Tomorrow: Episode 6
by girlfriday
It’s a great episode with big moments of heart from everyone — our once cold hero, our maturing heroine, and even the crazy maestro with a hidden agenda. The introduction of a new character also shakes up the story in a really fun way, by giving our hero a run for his money when it comes to his pride, his teacher, and yes… even his girl.
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LESSON 6 RECAP
After playfully pushing Yoo-jin into the pool, Nae-il and the boys watch curiously as he splashes around and then remains below the surface. They don’t know that he’s having a post-traumatic panic attack of some sort, and that he’s lying on the floor of the pool thinking he’s going to die.
Suddenly a boy standing nearby jumps in to rescue him, and drags Yoo-jin out of the pool and revives him. Without so much as a thank-you from the others, he gets pushed aside by Nae-il, who cries for Orabang to wake up.
Yoo-jin’s panic attack continues as he rests in the first-aid room, and when the memory of his plane crash in the ocean subsides, he gets up and sighs that there’s really no chance of him ever studying abroad.
The boy from the pool, LEE YOON-HOO (Park Bo-gum), gets chauffeured away, and when his mother calls to complain about his sudden detour to a waterpark, he answers pleasantly that it wasn’t much fun once he got there, but his aim was to try something not because he had to, but just because he wanted to.
Curiously, he takes his phone out and opens up a bucket list, and crosses off “Go to waterpark.” The other things on his list include going on a trip with his parents, and watching movies all day long. He starts to expand the list, but stops—perhaps he can’t think of anything he wants to do?
The three stooges sit outside Yoo-jin’s room at the resort, worried that he’s sleeping all day but too terrified to check on him in case he hates them. But Streseman comes downstairs dragging Yoo-jin by the ear like an errant puppy, and Nae-il cries that Yoo-jin is a recovering patient right now.
Streseman just gets distracted by how pretty she is and says he did well to invite her to the festival. The three stooges suddenly gape, “Did you nominate based on looks?” Yoo-jin tells them not to believe that, though he asks if Streseman nominated him to have a lackey handy.
Nae-il and Su-min take up their posts on either side of Yoo-jin, declaring that they’re going to protect him, and even Il-lac follows suit with a stranglehold. I sort of wish they would walk around this way.
They argue that Streseman has some very important voting to do (the tiebreaker for their orchestra battle), but he asks cryptically which orchestra they think benefited most when he abstained. That shuts them up, and Streseman yanks Yoo-jin away by the ear.
The music festival’s director Teacher Yoon walks around the grounds nagging the students to behave properly, and seems displeased with everyone until she comes across Yoon-hoo, who greets her warmly with a hug and calls her teacher.
He’s a total smooth-talker who lays on the compliments pretty thick, but he seems sincere when he says very sweetly that she has the most beautiful hands he’s ever known: “They make a person excited, enraptured, and sad.” He means her piano playing, of course, and she can’t help but smile.
She’s happy that he was able to make it back from a UNICEF concert in Europe in time, and says the quality of the performers is better now, complaining that Streseman brought some strange students with him. Yoon-hoo just perks up to hear that Streseman is here.
Streseman is busy poolside trying to acrobatically take a good selca to send to Dean Mina. She calls first and lets him know that she’s mad about his stunt, but already knows what he’s going to say—that it was just one piece of the big picture.
He agrees readily, but she sighs that she doesn’t know anymore whether he’s got a big picture plan, or just changes his mind on a whim. Yeah, join the club. She hangs up on him as her own tiny form of revenge, and the rejection throws him.
Yoon-hoo comes across Nae-il trying to climb a lamppost and catches her before she falls. She asks him to help her out and go tell Yoo-jin to sit closer by the window—she can’t see him this way, and she suffers from Orabang Withdrawal if she doesn’t see him every two hours. Ha. Or, you could just go in there?
She’s odd but Yoon-hoo is amused, and he remembers her now as the same girl who cried for Orabang back at the waterpark. She doesn’t remember him, but he says to himself that they’re meeting again.
At first he wonders why he should listen to her request, but when she’s like, Sure, whatever and starts climbing the lamppost again, he takes her by the wrist and agrees to help her see her Orabang.
Yoo-jin stares blankly when Yoon-hoo walks in and just introduces himself, and then sighs, “You followed me all the way here?” Yoon-hoo is taken aback, until he realizes that Yoo-jin isn’t even talking to him.
Nae-il pokes her head out from behind Yoon-hoo, and Yoo-jin grabs her by the wrist to lead her out. But Yoon-hoo holds onto the wrist he’s already holding, and Nae-il gets stretched like Gumby between them.
They’re already annoying me with the double wrist-grabs, but then the boys start arguing. Yoon-hoo asks how Yoo-jin can treat a woman this way, and Yoo-jin just looks down at Nae-il, “This thing?” Did you eat your barbarian flakes this morning?
They stand there like that still holding Nae-il from both sides with animosity growing by the second, until Streseman interrupts and demands ice water. Yoon-hoo greets the maestro and asks if he remembers coming to a solo concert of his, and Nae-il even recognizes Yoon-hoo by name as a famous cellist.
Yoo-jin is obviously upset that this guy is a world-class talent, and it peeves him even more when Streseman praises his recital as memorable. Yoo-jin, on the other hand, just gets told to fetch ice water like a gofer. Yoon-hoo beats him to the punch with a glass and they get into another tiff over which water, ice or room temperature, he’s to drink, and Yoo-jin wins this round.
Streseman decides he’s going to drink massive amounts of liquor to soothe his broken heart, and Nae-il gleefully says she wants to come too. But before Streseman can lure her into a night of drunken partying, Yoo-jin snaps at her to practice for her performance and leads Streseman out. Nae-il just sighs after them that her real rival for Yoo-jin’s affections is the maestro.
Yoo-jin ends up piggybacking a drunk Streseman back to his room later that night, and mutters out loud that he came all this way to be the old fogey’s errand boy. Streseman slurs that he can hear him, and complains about him calling his teacher an old fogey. He asks if Yoo-jin really thinks these are pointless missions.
That gets Yoo-jin’s attention, and he listens carefully as Streseman asks how a guy who doesn’t even know his musicians’ faces can conduct. “Why is a conductor’s position in the center? To be seen well by his orchestra members. To see them well.”
Streseman falls asleep while murmuring that Yoo-jin is just now starting to resemble a real conductor, and Yoo-jin goes back to tuck him into bed. He sits outside studying the sheet music on the table, and Streseman peeks at him with a tiny hint of a smile. Aw, you ARE sneak-teaching him!
Teacher Do worries about how Streseman and his flunkies are doing at the music festival, and asks Teacher Ahn for an update, hoping that they’re not as terrible as he thinks they are.
Cut to: Il-lac getting kicked out of practice for sucking, and Su-min getting kicked out of practice for too much performance flair. Nae-il is their last hope, and she assures them that she practiced. The boys warn her that the piano instructor Teacher Yoon is famously strict and scary, and that suddenly puts Nae-il on edge.
By the time she gets to practice she’s worked herself into a nervous fright, and the sight of Teacher Yoon barking at her students with a giant stick in her hand isn’t helping any. Nae-il is barely able to make it to the piano for her turn, and when she flubs right away, Teacher Yoon snaps her in the back with her stick. Yikes.
At the teacher’s prompting, Nae-il tries to focus on the music and start again, but it triggers a memory of her shrill childhood piano teacher who used to beat her hands with a ruler and force her to play a song a thousand times over if she made mistakes. The teacher literally told her that playing piano isn’t for fun—it’s her future.
That song in her memory rings in her ears and she freezes up entirely. She finally runs out of the classroom in a terror and collapses on a bench outside, awash in tears. She had played through her tears as a child, and as she calms herself down now, she can only think of one thing: Orabang.
She grabs his hand and holds onto it for dear life, and he asks if she’s a puppy (in an endearing way), before pulling away. He doesn’t know how upset she is, and just asks about her class. But when she says she just wants to go home, he gets stern and tells her to go ahead then, and not half-ass an opportunity that someone else would kill for.
It’s a harsh thing that perhaps she needs to hear, but the timing is terrible and she wipes away fresh tears.
Back on campus, ex-girlfriend Do-kyung stops by the coffee shop to catch up with Yoo-jin’s mom, and Mini Min-hee calls Nae-il to ask why Yoo-jin’s girlfriend is visiting someone else’s mom and acting like a daughter-in-law. Oh right, they don’t know that Mom is his mom yet. Nae-il says that Do-kyung is an ex, and Min-hee seems relieved.
Streseman is so hungover that he spends the whole day crawling in and out of the bathroom, and when a festival coordinator asks what they’re supposed to do about the ensemble workshop he’s conducting today, Streseman points at Yoo-jin and says his pupil will take his place.
Yoo-jin gapes, while the coordinator beams to hear that he’s Streseman’s student and happily agrees to the last-minute change. So just like that, Yoo-jin conducts the ensemble workshop, and a crowd of onlookers begins to gather.
He’s good, and Yoon-hoo looks a little shocked as he watches in the background. A reporter walks out gushing about the performance, and gasps to hear that Yoo-jin’s father is a famous pianist. Teacher Yoon comments that Streseman never takes on students, and others around her wonder where he’ll study overseas.
Nae-il walks up and her face falls to hear them talk about Yoo-jin going far away, and Il-lac admits that he’s jealous of Yoo-jin’s looks and skills. But Nae-il is wisful as she says, “That’s why I liked him… but now that’s what makes me nervous.”
Do-kyung goes to meet Dean Mina, who tries to comfort her about losing the lead role in her audition. Mina tries to tell her that with a little more effort next time… but Do-kyung cuts her off to say that effort has brought her this far, but in a place like this, effort can’t compete with the geniuses and their natural talent.
Do-kyung says it’s okay if she isn’t a genius, and that she’ll have to be satisfied with standing next to one instead. If you were talking about taking the second lead role in an opera, I’d say good for you. But I’m pretty sure you mean you’ll have Yoo-jin instead, and that makes me feel icky AND sorry for you.
A Orchestra’s concertmistress Shi-won calls Su-min to ask how the festival is going, and Il-lac suddenly buzzes around him excitedly, even cuddling just to try and hear what Shi-won is saying. Su-min pushes him away and calls him a pervert, and Il-lac’s main concern is that Shi-won overheard him.
The boys swoon as Yoo-jin gets dressed up for dinner with Teacher Yoon, and he wonders where Nae-il is but again doesn’t dwell on it for very long. At dinner, Yoo-jin apologizes for Streseman’s absence and tries to lie that he’s not feeling well, but Teacher Yoon is all too familiar with Streseman’s drinking habits (which by the way is four bottles of wine, holy moly).
Her colleagues say that Yoo-jin lives up to Streseman’s name as a pupil, and Teacher Yoon interjects to say that he’s the only one—the others, she says, “Are the worst!” She complains most about Nae-il, and it’s only now that Yoo-jin learns what happened in her class and why she was so spooked.
Yoo-jin defends them boldly, and says that they aren’t the worst: Il-lac is a violinist who enjoys emotional expression, Su-min is diligent and talented, and Nae-il isn’t thoughtless—she’s innocent and simply enjoys playing the piano.
He bows and takes his leave, and then runs all over the grounds looking for Nae-il. Awww.
Yoon-hoo finds Streseman and asks if he has time for a chat, and Streseman points out disapprovingly that Yoon-hoo seems to have all kinds of time on his hands since he stopped playing the cello. Hm.
Without even having to be prompted by the question, Streseman tells him, “Do what you want to do. Until you want to do it again.” He leaves Yoon-hoo with tears pooling in his eyes, and he wonders aloud what he’s supposed to do if he does that and still doesn’t want to do it.
He’s slowly drawn out of his reverie by the sound of a piano—it’s Nae-il, playing a beautiful rendition of Ravel’s “Jeux d’eau.” He follows the sound of the piano and lights up when he sees her, so engrossed in playing in the dark that she doesn’t notice him.
Yoon-hoo wonders to himself if such speed is even possible, but decides that the feeling isn’t because of speed alone. He turns around excitedly, thinking, “‘Water Games,’ I want to play it too.” She stops when she notices him, and he approaches to ask her why she’s playing alone and not getting evaluated at the festival.
Yoo-jin finally finds her, but happens to arrive just in time to see her smiling at Yoon-hoo. He turns to go with a frown, and Nae-il thankfully catches him leaving and runs after him. She tells Yoo-jin that she played her evaluation piece—she did it alone, but she worked really hard and she played it well.
When she tries to approach him, he coldly tells her to stop following him and shouts, “Why do you keep making me so concerned?!” He yells at her for following him and turning his insides out, as if it’s her fault that he cares.
Of course Nae-il doesn’t read between the lines, and only frets that she did something wrong to make him mad at her. She says she’s sorry even though she doesn’t know what she did. He sighs and sticks out his hand for her to hold: “C’mere.” Omg cute.
She inches her feet forward but is so nervous that she can’t even take his hand, so he just pulls her close and puts an arm around her. He pats her on the shoulder to comfort her, and then as they walk back like that, he tells her not to be too happy, ’cause he’s only doing it because it’s cold out and she might trip in the dark. UH-HUH.
Back in his room, Yoon-hoo looks over at his cello and down at his hand, and feels inspired to play again. He finally thinks of something to add to his bucket list and writes: “Play the cello as long as my fingers will allow.”
The foursome leaves the festival in good spirits, which naturally drives Yoo-jin crazy the whole ride home. Back at the coffee shop, Min-hee spends the afternoon being “helped” by Oboe and Clarinet sunbaes, who discover that they had the same idea to win her over and run off bickering.
Min-hee is much happier when Nae-il arrives with food for her, and assures her that Do-kyung is definitely dating someone new now because she acted exactly like a daughter-in-law around their boss. Mom overhears Nae-il bragging that Yoo-jin praised her and patted her on the head, and she thinks to herself that the girl is little hapless but she’s kind and that’s what’s important.
Meanwhile, Yoon-hoo arrives in Seoul and his driver asks what’s gotten into him—he’s changing his plans even though his mother will be expecting him on a plane. Yoon-hoo just says with a smile that he’s found something he wants to do, and adds another thing to his bucket list: date a strange girl he’s never met before.
To that end, he arrives on Haneum’s campus and tells Dean Mina that he wants to be a student here. She already knows who he is and wonders why on earth a Juilliard student would want to transfer here. He lets his guard down a little and says that he’s wearied by the competition: “Just once I want to enjoy music with other kids my age.”
Il-lac goes googly-eyed while spying on Shi-won, and Chef Dad has the total opposite reaction, annoyed that she and her A Orchestra friends keep coming here. It’s cute that Dad is mad because she beat Il-lac in the violin battle, while Il-lac tries to talk her up because he has a secret crush.
He works up the nerve to sneak up to her table and says he has something to tell her. He whispers something into her ear and shrinks away, and she tells her friends that all he said was that he’s not a pervert. Haha. Yeah, but now she thinks you’re a weirdo.
The school’s board is up in arms over their students’ terrible showing in the music festival, and they gather to discuss punishment. Streseman says they should be punished if they did something wrong… but then adds that if he had known, he might not have sent Yoo-jin to an interview.
Yoo-jin is just as surprised, having gone to the meeting at Streseman’s request. When the journalist introduces herself, he says he isn’t interested in being interviewed about his father, but she explains that this is about him, and that Streseman suggested him for the piece in his place as his student.
The board chairwoman immediately rethinks her stance if Yoo-jin is willing to interview (he’s always turned down previous requests to do so to promote the school), and Streseman warns her to stop trying to take their music and sell it, adding the threat that if she continues, he’ll crush her.
Mina follows him out to thank him for saying the things she always wanted to but couldn’t, then asks for him to make a decision about the orchestras. But Streseman says that isn’t up to him—even if it takes time, it’s for the students to decide for themselves. The chairwoman has had enough of Streseman’s antics though, and tells Teacher Do to get rid of him after the school’s upcoming music festival.
At Yoo-jin’s interview, the reporter is the one to tell him that he’ll be playing piano with his orchestra at the school’s festival, and that Streseman himself will be conducting. It’s pretty funny how he’s the one asking the journalist questions about himself: What song will I be playing? When will I be playing this?
I don’t know how she found out, but Do-kyung comes by knowing that Yoo-jin has an interview, and the reporter is eager to get a beautiful campus couple on camera. But Nae-il stands between them and announces that Do-kyung is the ex, while she’s the present girlfriend. Yoo-jin doesn’t look happy, but he’s also not contradicting her, and he’s not pushing her away either.
The reporter asks Nae-il to get out of frame, but I like that she doesn’t back down. Do-kyung says she’s the one who should leave since they’re just friends, and Chef Dad watches her go sighing that she’d be perfect for Il-lac.
Streseman’s attitude towards Yoo-jin has changed immensely, and he even sits him down for a lesson on what’s important as a conductor. He says that good health is crucial in order to maintain tempo, and warns him against too much liquor. He can’t help himself and adds the petty advice not to be old and boring like (Yoo-jin’s idol) Viera.
Streseman makes sure that Yoo-jin doesn’t think the conductor’s podium is for looking down on his orchestra, and Yoo-jin says it’s so that he can best see his orchestra. Streseman jokes that he should learn humility first then, and they actually laugh together.
He asks Yoo-jin which orchestra he’d vote for—A or S—and asks him to think on it. Nae-il runs up to Yoo-jin in a panic over her impending test and begs for his help, but he’s still lost in thought over the question and wonders to himself which orchestra is right: “Or in music, is there such a thing as ‘right’?”
He says that classical music is most beautiful when that perfect, calculated beauty that’s promised on the page is delivered. But then as he thinks about the S Orchestra, he wonders if music that doesn’t communicate to audiences has any worth. Classical music may eschew freestyle expression, but wasn’t that music made following the trends of the time?
He’s so engrossed in thought that he doesn’t hear anything that Nae-il is saying, and she pouts that he’s always thinking these days and never plays with her anymore. He’s not done thinking though, and pushes her aside gruffly, not even noticing that she’s fallen to the ground.
She’s upset, but calls after him to say that if he comes back by the count of three, she’ll forgive him. Aw, you really are sweeter than he deserves. She starts to count, but gets nervous when she gets to two-and-three-quarters…
Suddenly Yoon-hoo appears by her side and says that she and Yoo-jin are the same as always. He stretches out his hand and helps her up like a gentleman, and Yoo-jin turns around, suddenly very interested in what Nae-il is up to.
Yoon-hoo says that surely Yoo-jin didn’t miss him, then turns to Nae-il: “But what about you—didn’t you miss me?” At that, Yoo-jin marches over to them and pulls Nae-il right into his chest, and stares Yoon-hoo down.
COMMENTS
Eeee! I know he’s just jealous, but I still love it anyway. Frankly, Yoo-jin could use a good kick in the pants from a handsome rival who actually treats Nae-il well. The thing is, I think Yoo-jin does treat her well when it counts and especially when no one else is around, but he’s still got a lot to learn about basic courtesy and taking her adoration for granted. That’s the part I’d like to see him lose a little, so that he learns to appreciate it more. By now he isn’t actively pushing her away, and sometimes even seeks her out on purpose, which is a pretty big step forward. The moment that really got me excited in this episode was when he took off running to go find Nae-il after hearing that she was scolded in class. It was so earnest and sweet, and it didn’t matter that the moment of pain had passed for her; he still had to comfort her.
I really like the addition of Yoon-hoo, who’s an interesting character right off the bat. I find his crisis compelling (whether or not there’s a mystery ailment attached), that music has become entirely rote and just a form of competition to him. It’s believable that he’s mesmerized by Nae-il’s piano performance and inspired by it to enjoy music again, because that’s exactly who she is, and what she did to Yoo-jin. I love that her music inspires others, which is maybe the best compliment there could be from one musician to another. When Yoon-hoo finds the desire to play again after listening to her play, it feels genuinely uplifting.
I’m looking forward to what the addition of a rival will do for the story, because this is a drama that could use a little more conflict. A love triangle will probably do wonders to advance the romance angle—there’s already loads of progress in one episode since Yoon-hoo’s arrival, and I honestly don’t count Do-kyung as anything useful to the story because I’m petty like that. There’s a huge difference between a boy who’s sincere about his feelings for Nae-il, and a girl who wants to use Yoo-jin to be her spotlight because she can’t get one on her own.
I know that right now Yoo-jin is mostly reacting out of jealousy, but I love love jealous antics in dramas, because they force people like Yoo-jin out of denial. He’s fiiiiiine to let Nae-il pine and pout when he’s the only one in her orbit, but now he’s clearly not going to stand by and let Yoon-hoo swoop in on his not-a-girlfriend, maybe-girlfriend. I know she won’t jump ship or even make him work for it, but I kinda hope he has to anyway.
It’s especially good to switch gears and get some conflict on the romance front, because in exchange we finally see some semblance of a teacher in Streseman, and Yoo-jin gets to begin a true teacher-disciple relationship with him. I was honestly confused and annoyed by the character until today, when I was relieved to see that he wasn’t totally thoughtless. In this light, his bizarre backwards lessons for Yoo-jin make sense, and even his delinquent avoidance of all teaching duties seems to have been for Yoo-jin’s benefit. I’m just glad we’re getting this change in him sooner rather than later, because now I have a chance to start caring about him as a character. And now that we know there are moments of true learning and connection between them, their bickering relationship becomes cute.
Nae-il has had a great trajectory over the last two episodes, and she’s become so much more interesting now that we’ve explored her trauma and even touched upon her fears in loving someone like Yoo-jin. I found her personal moment of triumph in this episode to be very moving. She can’t manage to play in front of a teacher who berates her, but she takes Yoo-jin’s admonishment to heart—I know that she isn’t playing for a formal evaluation, but it’s even more meaningful that she puts the same effort into playing the piece for herself. She’s the extreme in that she’s so far outside the system that she can’t even play within the confines of the festival’s rules, but that’s exactly why she inspires someone like Yoon-hoo, who forgot entirely what it was like to play because your fingers are itching to, and because the music moves you.
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1 fgb4877
October 28, 2014 at 8:32 PM
Hope it gets going stronger!.
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2 matchasushi
October 28, 2014 at 8:37 PM
Loved this episode! And dayum, Lee Yoon Hoo is FIIIIIIINE~
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choppy
October 28, 2014 at 9:50 PM
Yes! Can I second this?!!!
Lee Yoon Hoo (Park Bo-gum) is so good looking/cute and dare I say it? Even more so then the lead actor Joo Won (runs to a corner to hide from angry fan girls) lol.
So excited to see what happens with Park Bo-gum's character. I also hope he continues to make Yoo-jin jealous, forcing him to face his feelings for Nae-il. Kyahhhh!!! >.<
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coby
October 28, 2014 at 10:26 PM
I love Park Bo-gum in Wonderful Days!
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cempedak
October 28, 2014 at 11:23 PM
I love Park Bo-gum in Wonderful Mama! :)
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KDaddict
October 29, 2014 at 1:38 AM
He was great in WD as the teenage version of Seo-jinnie.
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Jean
October 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM
You hide properly away from me babe xD
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3 aini
October 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM
I have a question
does yoon ho character exist in the j-drama?
I watched the j-drama ver long time ago so i dont remeber much about other character.
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SS
October 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM
Not exactly. There was a character Kuroki who played the oboe. He was smitten with Nodame and crushed on her. He treated Nodame like a woman unlike Chiaki who did not see her as one. So in this light, they are quite similar. Chiaki showed some jealousy or awareness of a man interested in Nodame but it was not made into a big thing. This kversion looks like it might deviate in that sense. But I am all for it if they do it right. Like GF said, I think love triangles can really spice up things, be fun and meaningful if it is done properly.
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aini
October 28, 2014 at 9:11 PM
Thanks for the info. i remember that guy who played the oboe. I have no objection with this love triangle as long as they do it right. who doesn't want to watch yoon jin got jealous.
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fgb4877
October 28, 2014 at 9:39 PM
In fact, in the anime at least the cellist was a womanizer. The Samurai-like oboe player was smitten by Nodame and was a good natured and sensible character (but it seems this kdrama counterpart is more layered, and that is a good thing). I don't remember the jdrama that well.
On another note, I like this warmer "Chiaki" a lot more than the original (well, it kind of have more maturity and better self knowledge than the original), he cares about Nae-Il and he shows that.
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Jin
October 28, 2014 at 11:12 PM
I feel like so many people are missing the point. Chiaki isn't supposed to be warm at all, that was the major flaw in his seemingly perfect character. As someone who has read the original manga and loved it, I'm disappointed that Yoo Jin doesn't capture the character of Chiaki beyond superficial similarities.
eny
October 28, 2014 at 11:57 PM
when i watch the japanese version i also feel that chiaki although he seems arrogan n rude he has warm heart too, it's not really different than cha yo jin
ms. augi
October 29, 2014 at 12:20 AM
I think Yo jin is still cold in the exterior but warm hearted. He shows more warm side only to Na il.
BTW, in case you read it Moon Jo Woon and Shi kyunga, You rock!! love your intrepretation on Nodame and Chiaki! Hell with ratings and rantings!
notsosureee
October 30, 2014 at 8:41 AM
one thing i know for sure that k-drama world always makes more romantic, dramatic, triangle-ic (if that makes sense) version of a drama. I don't know what you think if that is good or not. But, as a manga reader, J-drama fans and also K-drama fans the korean version isn't as delightful as the original, it doesn't grasp the whole point of the story. I prefer all original k-drama created and written by korean.
SS
October 29, 2014 at 1:43 AM
this is reply to Jin.
I think the manga being manga could not flesh out Chiaki properly. Maybe it's even a flaw. I expected the Jdrama to bring out Chiaki's person better because after all it's played by an actor and not a cartoon figure, limited in expression. However, Tamaki did not achieve it. You can say it as it is mean to be that way. But it fell short for me. I couldn't buy into why Chiaki had suddenly fallen in love with Nodame. There was hardly any revelation or progress that we could see.
So I am all for the warmth that Yoo Jin brings to the character. It is easier to believe and nicer to watch. Besides. who wants to root and fall in love with a perfect man who is devoid of warmth. And warm only when he is in love?
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madqueen
October 29, 2014 at 7:15 AM
I agree with Jin actually.
Chiaki in the manga is layered but cold and him falling in love with Nodame is a subtle build up and only became obvious when he adked her to join him in France and when.he bought the necklace for her. Even then he was consistent in not overtly expressing his affection for Nodame. Tamaki played Chiaki as how the character is depicted in the manga.
That said, Yoo Jin has deviated somewhat from Chiaki and there's nothing wrong with how Joo Won portrayed Yoo Jin, his portrayal of the warmer Yoo Jin fits the tone of the k-version.
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lemondoodle
October 30, 2014 at 1:12 AM
Wait the manga didn't flesh out the original character properly? You think this drama is? lol.
Chiaki did not "suddenly" fall in love with Nodame. It took YEARS for him to even admit to anything and acknowledge her at all. This is even in jdrama, it's even longer in the manga. This drama on the other hand has Yoo Jin calling her cute... that's too suddenly and OOC for Chiaki. He's not Chiaki other than a few superficial similarities.
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lemondoodle
October 30, 2014 at 1:15 AM
Another thing, Chiaki was NOT only warm when in love. The friendships he made and how was able to finally move forward with his life made him a much warmer person. It had nothing to do with romance.
Geez
October 30, 2014 at 8:18 AM
I didn't read the manga. Chiaki sounds like a awful jerk.
If Nodame was my girlfriend, I will tell her to drop him like a hot potato. Why waste years waiting for this kind of man and she is supposed to be grateful when he finally falls in love with her? Meanwhile, he lets her pretend to be his wife? I feel sick.
If this korean version goes the same way, I will be so disappointed. Cha Yoo Jin, be a better man!
lemondoodle
October 30, 2014 at 10:54 AM
@Geez
Actually, I don't think he was awful at all. He treated her really well and their story was not one of her pining for him while he couldn't figure out what he wanted.
Nodame wasn't exactly normal either, so he didn't really know how to deal with her and denied things (but wasn't exactly that serious about it) , but they both worked toward common goals together and apart when in Paris and romance wasn't the focus of the drama. They had a comfortable dynamic that was free of dramatic issues for the most part until later. They did end up having a big blowout fight where both thought the other wasn't serious about the relationship.
I find how their relationship grew really naturally and without unnecessary bullshit like the hug/jealous crap here.
And uh "let Nodame act like his wife"? lol Nodame does what Nodame wants. There was no let. And he told her to stop a few dozen times, but that didn't stop her. He didn't take her serious (hence the fight I mentioned).
ecca
October 31, 2014 at 1:01 AM
@Geez you stated it yourself that you didn't read the manga. That explains a lot already. Do I have to go further?
Okay. In short, the charm of original story s that a stoic conductor-wanna be man and a genius yet extraordinarily weird pianist are surprisingly matching.
Cha Yoo Jin may be a better man, but it also reduces his character's charm to nearly a normal-average person.
fandomnerd12
October 28, 2014 at 9:02 PM
No. I recently watched the j-drama, anime, and read the manga (like summertime) and I can't think of any Japanese counterpart.
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Sunandmoon
October 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM
He seems sort of a mixture of multiple characters:
Kikuchi, the suave, slightly arrogant, playboy cellist who is in Japan temporarily from abroad....
Kuroki, the serious and gentlemanly oboe player who initially has a crush on Nodame...
Rui, the (female) child prodigy pianist who is in a slump and leaves the performing world to study at a conservatory and enjoy music with students her own age...
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bonsai
October 28, 2014 at 9:48 PM
oh yeaaahh I knew he had to be a multitude of characters but I couldn't pinpoint the exact ones. I this means there's no female Rui- YAY that means we still sort of get the character minus the painful in-love Nodame parts but not totally, I guess that's why Do Kyung seems to have a role here.
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Viki
November 2, 2014 at 3:03 AM
Great point! It does seem like he has all of those characteristics! He is a smooth-talker, for one.
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4 SS
October 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM
Watching raw, ep 5 wowed me without even the subs. But ep 6 is different, you really need to understand what is being said to appreciate this episode and I am so loving it.
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5 And
October 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM
DB is really fast recapping this drama.
Not like the other dramas I guess. I'm wondering why #justsaying
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astromantic
October 28, 2014 at 8:56 PM
Different people recap different dramas. Different people operate on different schedules. Problem?
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sue
October 29, 2014 at 3:32 AM
Plus some recappers are just faster than others. Different levels of experience I guess. No mystery.
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Lulu
October 29, 2014 at 10:49 AM
Yeah it depends on the individual (and I believe in some cases that is mixed with how much they like the show, just human nature). Ah well *sits and waits for Liar Game recap*
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6 ㅈ
October 28, 2014 at 8:53 PM
So cuteee! I too am liking the addition of Yoon-Ho, if he isn't just there for an un-convincing love triangle! Looks like he'll have his own musical story too...
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October 28, 2014 at 8:55 PM
I hope the feelings form an actual triangle...not some broken triangle.
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7 astromantic
October 28, 2014 at 8:54 PM
UGH Yoojin's laugh was like if rainbows and unicorns had graced the earth..........
I enjoyed this episode so much more than yesterday's! Naeil was the highlight, and I only hope it'll keep the momentum. Probably helped that we got Lee Yoon Hoo to take away time from more uninteresting side characters. Thanks for the recap!
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Kiki
October 30, 2014 at 3:27 AM
Me 2!!!?
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8 me
October 28, 2014 at 9:07 PM
Loved it when yoo-jin and stresseman both laughed ! ^^
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Adal
October 28, 2014 at 10:31 PM
Me too. Shared humor. Male bonding at its finest.
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9 Eva
October 28, 2014 at 9:16 PM
I hope we get to see more true love feelings from Nae il . I like it when her own feelings scare her. Means they are true and not just a passing crush.
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10 Holymoly
October 28, 2014 at 9:22 PM
We got to see a good acting of Shim Eun kyung in this episode even though she's been acting the whole time from episode 1. But what I mean is her character! It's improving that her character becoming more interesting. I was annoyed with the another "love triangle". Like come on that wasn't even included in the original and even though it kinda did some relationship development between the two main characters. We all know that it can shake something up but the two main characters will still end up together at the end. It's so obvious! Why still add another character for just love triangle?!
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11 moonleaf
October 28, 2014 at 9:27 PM
Just watched this ep with subs. I don't know if I'll like the love triangle. Let's see, hmm.
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12 4D
October 28, 2014 at 9:28 PM
Still enjoying this show! I like that more and more story lines are coming out. While the piano lessons as a child were not good...they didn't seem severe enough to really cause her behaviors. I don't know. I like her as a character and I'm enjoying that she's starting to show more sides of her and more depth....but I just can't see her in a romantic couple. She's really so childlike.
I think I will enjoy the "love triangle" just because it will push along some growth in the characters and also the new guy is very interesting in his own right, but I really don't see how either of them could view as more than a little sister figure.
Also I fall more in more in love with the character of Il-Rac's father. So perfect in every scene. Although he has terrible taste in women.
Can we have more advancement with mini Min Hee please?!
Overall, I'm just really enjoying everyone. I think Stresemann's evolution has been a bit fast and not really realistic but...this isn't a particularly realistic show so I'm going to let it slide since for the first time I didn't want to scrub my eyes after his scenes.
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Mermaid Scribbler
October 29, 2014 at 3:44 AM
I haven't seen the original and am wondering about Nae Il's past, too. I hate to invite comparisons (really, I do), but now I am wondering if the jdrama's Nodame suffered more extreme abuse. I agree that the kdrama version of her abuse doesn't seem to severe enough to cause her child-like behavior. I love the show and was thrilled to see Nae Il playing piano again. She was terrific in this episode.
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Lizzy4e
October 29, 2014 at 7:27 AM
She did suffer more extreme abuse. there was blood involved.
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Sunandmoon
October 29, 2014 at 12:23 PM
In the j-drama it seemed like there was one really traumatic incident whereas here there's an accumulation of abuse. Personally, I think both can be serious. I was a music student and I wasn't physically disciplined ever, but I had a teacher once who made me feel horrible and stressed all the time. For a sensitive child like Naeil, even if it's not a violent incident, it can be damaging. Obviously, not everyone who is subject to the harsh treatment becomes traumatized. Yoojin talked back and stood up for himself when the fan teacher hit him over the head (which was even worse abuse). Ilrak didn't get depressed when his teachers scolded him. Other students appear to go through the school just enduring it. But for Naeil it was too much. I don't think it's for us to say that what she experienced (as a very young, vulnerable age) shouldn't have affected her.
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4D
October 29, 2014 at 2:54 PM
Since she's a character, I do think it's fiat for us to analyze whether her story and personality seem to match up. While I can certainly find something like why she went through to be awful and to have a negative effect on her, the type and severity of it does not seem like the kind of trauma tht would cause such an extreme reaction. She's basically refused to become an adult. Permanent regression into childhood is a reaction that's usually withyr most severe trauma. It sounds like this version decide to time down her backstory and it's just not quite working for me.
On the other hand, it's really a very small factor for me and I'm still enjoying the series.
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Sunandmoon
October 29, 2014 at 4:19 PM
I certainly agree that there needs to be narrative logic. What I meant was the situation can be seen as logical because trauma is different per person. Naeil was never exactly normal, I imagine, even pre-trauma. Given her extraordinary musicality, she would have been highly sensitive, emotional, and prone to fantasy. We learned in the k-version she's an only child, which can make a child weak to conflict from not having experienced it before. So I can see a young Naeil reacting more strongly than what might be expected of the average child.
Kaytwin2
November 1, 2014 at 7:17 PM
As a survivor of emotional abuse that took place over a decade, but never involved physical violence, I find Naeil's flashbacks and her current day reactions to things that trigger her flashbacks highly realistic and frankly hard for me emotionally to watch. Emotional abuse, especially when a child, is severely crippling. I experienced it as a young adult and still deal with self esteem and confidence issues, as well as panic attacks and periods where it's easier to lose myself in my writing than engage with the wider world. I find her portrayal of abuse realistic and heartbreaking and fully explains why she has remained childlike and engulfed in her playful music as a way to escape. I wish I could thank the actress - she's doing a superb job with this piece of her character.
Pearl~ai88
November 2, 2014 at 11:29 AM
I don't think we are supposed to see Nae-il's whole personality as a result of her trauma. Honestly, she's just a weirdo naturally and I think her childlike innocence is part of that and also part of her charm as a character. Her trauma is preventing her from growing in one specific area, her music, and as that is obviously a huge part of her life it also effects her confidence and growth overall as a person. But even if she didn't have that trauma I don't think she would be a completely normal mature person. She is still young and going through that stage where everyone has to find their place in the world as an adult. Cantabile is a coming of age drama and both Yoo-jin and Nae-il have dreams they want to fulfill and issues that they have to get past, just one of which is their respective childhood traumas. Neither of them are defined by those events, they are just symbolic of the fears and challenges they need to overcome as they become adults.
fgb4877
October 29, 2014 at 10:16 AM
Dear 4D, I disagree with you concerning Stressemann. He is a really offbeat character, but his lessons are great. For an already technically advanced student as Yoo Jin, he had to make him see his orchestra as individuals and therefore to make him see through the "leftover" label. For that he had to make him more humble, and the errand boy excercise about feeding them was made for that. Stresseman's work with Yoo Jin is to make him more human and relatable.
It kind of remembers me the relationship between Marpa and his disciple Milarepa (Tantric Buddhist Yogis in the 11th century Tibet), were the expression "tough love" almost gets a murderous new meaning. Only a very accomplished and compassive teacher could be so cruel on behalf of his student.
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4D
October 29, 2014 at 2:48 PM
My issues with Stresemann aren't really about his teaching technique although he was very extreme in te beginning vowing to never teach him purely because of who his dad is and who his idol. My issue it more that he's a really creepy pervert at the beginning. I would never have been ok with him bing around students. But now they've mostly dropped they except for the "baby" comments and I'm supposed to be routig for him and his ex student to get together. I think he's been altered a lot from his initial appearance.
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dkaoru
October 31, 2014 at 7:48 PM
the baby comments creeps me out. i really wish he drops it
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13 Sunandmoon
October 28, 2014 at 9:31 PM
I normally don't like love triangles, but I wouldn't mind Yoojin getting the wake up call he needs to stop taking Naeil for granted. I don't think we have to worry about Naeil actually liking the new guy, so it's not a genuine triangle. It seems more of a personal development story for the cellist, with Naeil helping him find his way.
And on a different note, it's gratifying to see Streseman prove himself as a musician and a teacher in this episode.
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Beebeestar
October 30, 2014 at 7:48 AM
Yes! I agree very very much!!! I've changed my mind about K's stresseman after this epsiode. It is a nice transition but I do find the change too abruptly! It's good to know that he is not a meanie anymore! This episode really made me cheer out loud for the production team when love triangle doing it right, even though I know Do Kyung will eventually see why she won't be as compatible to Yoojin, and improvement in actings and chemistries between the actors& actresses!! major love!!
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14 cingdoc
October 28, 2014 at 9:37 PM
Yoo jin, you might be a prodigy in music but I think with Nae Il('s love), I think the music might soar to a even sweeter level...I'm glad the green eyed monster has been awakened , hehehe....
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15 mongoose22
October 28, 2014 at 9:58 PM
I keep waiting for Il-Rac's father to wink at the ladies after just seeing him in My Secret Hotel as that wonky detective. His son has much better taste in women; Shi-Won is the beauty in the show in my eyes. I think it's the lips.
In any case, the last two eps have been really good for Nae-Il as a character. She's been smoothed a bunch now that they've introduced some fear into her personality and had her respond more like a scared girl and not like a bitey dog. She's a lot more compelling now that Shim Eun-Kyung has more than crazy determination to play.
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kaede
October 28, 2014 at 11:20 PM
Il Rak's father... ahahah, I found him so annoying in "Dream High 1." But he's an endearing father here, so supportive of his son.
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kitkat
October 29, 2014 at 12:50 PM
I do too!!! ;) I was pissed off cause his character got less and less time in MSH, so it was a nice surprise to see him here.
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16 MissD
October 28, 2014 at 10:07 PM
Okay....so honestly I don't find Yoo-jin's treatment towards Nae-il endearing. She doesn't have much of a personality outside of being there for him to provide support and occasional inspiration. He pushes her around yet she takes all of his rude actions, from locking her out in the cold, yelling at her and pushing her down. The show portrays his cold-shoulder as romantic, yet if I were to see anyone of my girlfriends in real life get treated like that by the guy she liked I would be appalled. The final scene with Yoon-hoo encompasses what's wrong about this relationship: he literally pushes her down and she just takes it and it's not until Yoon-hoo threatens his possession over Nae-il that he shows dominance over her with the hug. I am all for love triangles yet right now it doesn't feel as though Nae-il had much say in what's happening. I'm tired of sexist renditions of female leads that pursue male leads that don't treat them with respect from the start. Yes, he is slowly recognizing her gift as a musician and as an overall kind person, yet why should she even need his recognition? Shouldn't she inherently deserve respect just for being a human being? I may be taking this small scene out of proportion but I just beseech my fellow drama-viewers to question the gender standards that dramas portray. Their relationship shines in scene in which he listens to her and treat her with respect and the last scene of this episode was not one of them.
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SS
October 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM
In the first place, Yoo Jin doesnt see Naeil as his gf. He cares for her but not in a romantice way so we can only criticise him for being ungentlemanly but not as a terrible boyfriend.
Actually my issue is how the character Chiaki is written. No matter he finds Nodame inspirational, attracted by her talent or even amused by her, i think he is terrible in letting her stick by her side, let her announce to the whole world that she's his wife and misleads her by cooking and cleaning for her. Then he finally falls in love with her after a long time whilst maintaining the unequal relationship. In real life this guy would be a jerk. I think what the kdrama is doing here is delving into the character of Chiaki in a deeper and more meaningful way. They actually show Yoo Jin's layers being peeled off one by one by Naeil. He actually cares but is either in denial or not that in love with her as she is with him. He is still unable to relate to people well and never had any real friends as pointed out by a number of people in the drama.Rather than being self absorbed i would say he is obsessed with music only. Do Kyung was his only friend if you call her one and she tolerated him because she only wanted to elevate herself by standing next to him. He never learned how to be a boyfriend although they were a couple.
i think the drama is also doing a good job in showing how Naeil transits from being infatuated to actually starting to love and care for Yoo Jin in a mature way.
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Sunandmoon
October 28, 2014 at 11:32 PM
I would prefer to see Yoojin be gentler, but I think that's part of the canon Chiaki character. He was a stupid boyfriend who couldn't read Nodame's signals and hurt her by laughing at her when she wanted to be treated seriously. And vice versa, when he tried to show affection, Nodame wasn't necessarily ready to accept him. There were communication issues for them throughout the manga.
The pushing and pulling was jarring this episode, but when I thought about it, it wasn't because Yoojin was acting in a particularly rough way. He shook Naeil off when she clung to him before, but it was lighthearted and a running joke between them. He also pushed Ilrak and Sumin away when they touched him too much. The difference is that Naeil is now in a different mental state and she is crushed when he casts her off. However, Yoojin is not picking up on Naeil's reaction and continues to treat her jokingly.
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Dramafed1782
October 29, 2014 at 12:07 AM
That is a fabulous point you have made. Since things are seen from Naeil's perspective now, we would think that Yoo Jin could be a little more understanding.
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SS
October 29, 2014 at 1:53 AM
I would prefer Yoo Jin to be gentler but I also wished Naeil could be more attuned to Yoo Jin's mental state. She wanted to talk about her exam and Yoo Jin wanted to have quiet time to think. Both were equally in the wrong.
He wasn't even angry when he cast her off, he was more like "Just don't disturb me" and if he wanted to walk off, he had to pull away or push off her hand at some point.
I think the fact he stopped when she asked him to apologize shows that he may not want to give in to her or say he's sorry but at least he did not continue to walk on and ignore her. His brain was probably still thinking about his own issue while trying to respond to her.
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Jon G.
October 29, 2014 at 3:35 AM
I partially agree with you.
"I’m tired of sexist renditions of female leads that pursue male leads that don’t treat them with respect from the start."
Well, this is a stock trope that is used a lot, and it sometimes actually works. But Nae-il is a rather weak and sad side character in this show right now, the show itself objectifies her. I don't expect the show's (male) characters to treat her any better than the show itself.
"Yes, he is slowly recognizing her gift as a musician and as an overall kind person, yet why should she even need his recognition?"
Because he is genre savvy enough to know that all geniuses are eccentric, and in reverse, being eccentric is okay, but only as long as you are a genius. See Stresemann, who so far did nothing positively remarkable at all, screws up constantly, but all is forgiven and everyone bears with it because we are informed that he is a genius.
"Shouldn’t she inherently deserve respect just for being a human being?"
Well, IS she a human being? So far, she is still much closer to a manga character than a human being. He, on the other hand, is anthropomophised to the point where the genre-clash cannot be ignored and gives rise to questions like yours.
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4D
October 29, 2014 at 6:17 AM
I agree that there is a long running habit of female characters being treated poorly by guys that they still stick to like glue. This is especially common with shows based of mangas. I think the "comedy" or a clingy girl and a guy constantly rebuffing physically is supposed to be funny.
However, I think some things are a bit different here. It bothers me but it's presented differently. For one, it's not really a gender thing here - it's a Yoo-Jin thing. He does the same thing to Il-rac and Su-min. It's just that Nae-Il does it more persistently. I think Yoo-Jin treats them all about the same although he's starting to slowly become more in tune with what's going on with Nae-Il.
I think the new guy will show Yoo-Jin how Nae-Il should be treated (like you say, as a person), but it's not because he treats women badly, it's because he's bad with *people* in general. So, no, he doesn't know how to treat people with any sort of awareness or sensitivity. I'm pretty sure that's the whole growth of him as a conductor as well. They're not just musical instruments to be tuned and played with technicality - their human, with emotions, and it's a whole new set of rules.
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Haruka
October 29, 2014 at 7:20 AM
I understand why you would think that way but you also have to understand that this is a drama adaptation of the Nodame Cantabile manga, if you know anything about the manga than you would know that that's how Chiaki is written, in fact he's more colder than the Kdrama counterpart, and like the other commenters below said Yoo-Jin is like that to everyone not only Nae-Il.
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bebebe
October 29, 2014 at 9:37 PM
Exactly, as in ep.4 when one screams that Yoo-jin seems to hate only him, Su-min counters, “No, no, he hates all of us equally!” :)
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4D
October 30, 2014 at 8:49 PM
+1
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17 Loolu
October 28, 2014 at 10:17 PM
"I love that her music inspires others, which is maybe the best compliment there could be from one musician to another."
A lot of people say they want to do this or that to inspire others but I think if you're like Nae il who does it because she enjoys it and puts that pure innocence of fun into her performances, you inspire others unintentionally. From what I've learned, watching someone playing a violin, piano, or any classical instrument with a smile gains more admiration than one who frowns half the time even after a performance.
Little by little, this drama is inspiring me to get back into my piano and violin playing. I've been on a hiatus for some time now from lessons and being a self-taught kind of person, I think I need others who are into classical music as much as I am to inspire and motivate me more. I wish I had friends like Cha Yoo Jin does. But you know...fictional. =(
But I have a deep admiration for this drama. It's taking it's time to develop the romance which I don't mind and not as dull, boring, and slow as My Lovely Girl. (No offence to others that are watching it. It is really....)
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Marie
October 28, 2014 at 10:32 PM
Lol, I gave up on My Lovely Girl after five or six episodes, maybe even less than that. I'm glad I have this show and Liar Game to take up my time.
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18 Marie
October 28, 2014 at 10:29 PM
Ah, the wrist grab...one of several K-drama pet peeves. Love triangles are another nuisance unless they are done properly. I welcome the addition of it here if it will spur on Yoo-jin's feelings and get him to think of Nae-il as a woman.
Also, I'm loving Il-lac more and more each episode.
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19 R
October 28, 2014 at 10:37 PM
Thanks a lot. I love this drama. The chemistry between JW and SEK is amazing. They are so adorable in those Bts
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ms. augi
October 29, 2014 at 12:27 AM
OOO...Dimplesss overload!! I am dyiing! so cute!
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Pearl~ai88
November 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM
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20 revlow
October 28, 2014 at 10:44 PM
Thanks girlfriday for the recap! I especially appreciate learning the other items on the bucket list. I wish kdramas did a better job in general with translating writing. I know it's impossible to do all the time, but this instance seemed simple enough. I'm already eating the almonds, do the damn subs. ;-)
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21 primaoptima
October 28, 2014 at 11:25 PM
I am enjoying this drama. Love triangle and all other cliches - love them all. KDramas are really great in bringing out that stupid smile in one's face. I love Joo-won and Shim Eun-kyung's acting.
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22 kayohs
October 28, 2014 at 11:42 PM
THANKS for the quick recap girlfriday. Always love your take on it. :)
While not fond of all the wrist grabbing and maybe extreme obliviousness when Yoo Jin is engrossed with whatever and notices Nae il as an after thought or when competition comes around but hopefully, Show will do a great job of turning it around and giving us a great satisfying turn about when he realises he love is FOR. REAL.
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SS
October 29, 2014 at 2:02 AM
BINGO! That's the thing about Yoo Jin which people cannot understand.
He has always been engrossed in his world of music. Music first, human relations second(I am not even sure if it is). When he is in that world, he pretty ignores everything and everyone. This is why he does not have friends and never went out for dinner or drinks. I got a feeling the motley crew of Il Lak, Sumin, Minhee and Naeil may be the only friends Yoo Jin ever had. This is why people think he is arrogant and cold when he actually has a warm side.
You are right, I can't wait for the day he really falls in love and realizes it for what it is.
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Boba
October 29, 2014 at 7:14 PM
Agree agree agree. Cant wait for Yoo Jin's realisation!!
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23 JustAvidFan
October 28, 2014 at 11:42 PM
Girlfriday, your thought resonates mine. This is exactly why I felt this drama so interesting!
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24 Hi
October 28, 2014 at 11:47 PM
I love original one and i can't even compare them.
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Geez
October 29, 2014 at 1:56 AM
But you are still watching ;)
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25 crazyhursea
October 28, 2014 at 11:48 PM
I love it. On earlier episode i just keep forwarding because i compare it to japanese version. But i watch every minute of this episode and unconsciously stop comparing it with japanese version . It's different and it can stand on its own, and i love every second of it.
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26 Pearl~ai88
October 28, 2014 at 11:48 PM
That scene where they are walking in the dark just killed me! Yoo-jin's frustrated/upset/confused/tender expression... ugh, Joo-Won just nailed it!
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27 bonsai
October 29, 2014 at 12:46 AM
I'm not comparing them because they're different- it'd be too stressful. On the other hand, all I want is to feel refreshed and I am, so yay.
Oooh I like how they mashed Yoon-Hoo's character with more than one from the anime. I remember even then I wasn't such a big fan of Kuroki because he just...wasn't right for her. He was a nice guy and everything, I just never rooted for him. Instead, I secretly grouched over how mean Chiaki acted to Nodame sometimes and ha! serve him right if he was getting jealous now but if there had ever been a serious moment in which Kuroki actually threatened their relationship, I would have backpedalled -fast, and hissed at him.
I think that element will appear in the drama too. He was too gentlemanly- which isn't all bad but being soft couldn't help her in the long run. His character put her on a pedestal I remember. Though I DID enjoy the jealous moments, definitely. When it comes down to it she needs a push, or a shove (heh), in the right direction and in the right way, so I guess I was a sailor on Chiaki's ship.
Yoo-jin's character acts slightly different from Chiaki sometimes, but not in a bad way, I like his take on him. I can't wait for the next episode!!
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bonsai
October 29, 2014 at 12:54 AM
Oh and that scene! With the Maestro asking for water and the two boys. That was an excellent example of the difference between Yoo-jin and Yoon-hoo. Yoon-hoo is obediant and gives you exactly what you asked for but Yoo-jin has a very definitive mind and gives you based on your need. I can just see Naeil taking Yoon-hoo for granted instead XD
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28 bonsai
October 29, 2014 at 12:56 AM
Oh wait, and he'd give you something you asked for without thinking that it might be bad for you. Yoo-jin would just deny it or alter your request.
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29 Q.rious
October 29, 2014 at 2:13 AM
Does anyone know whether Shim Eun Kyung had any screen kiss before?
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30 elvira
October 29, 2014 at 2:37 AM
Rival in love.
Iiiiiiiinteresting......
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31 SS
October 29, 2014 at 2:58 AM
I also can't wait for Il Lac and Shi Won's shenanigans. Add Dad to the picture and it's guaranteed to be a hoot.
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32 doki2
October 29, 2014 at 4:39 AM
I still remember when it comes for manga, the reader fellow discuss how complicated Nodame x Chiaki relationship and how it is affect their life, their view of music and people around them. that's why all of the character becomes important, even in drama.
I'm happy for this, and Yoon-Ho really refreshing character. I hope the PD did not focus too much for the jealousy and bring out more of Yoon-Ho.
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33 NahlaJW
October 29, 2014 at 6:13 AM
I feel like crying!! ?I don't have time to watch it or any other drama these days due to my final year in college and the final year project ...at least I've got the recaps to read so thank you DB for yout fast uploading❤
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34 samsooki
October 29, 2014 at 6:30 AM
I think this series is turning into "Beautiful People Who Play Musical Instruments."
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Jon G.
October 29, 2014 at 6:50 AM
I feel the same, only in my case it IS a bad thing.
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doki2
October 29, 2014 at 7:44 AM
there is cure for that. just browsing on youtube and search unique and funny classical performance, like I did (and I dont know it is good for you or just backfired advice):D.
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35 samsooki
October 29, 2014 at 6:31 AM
Not that there's anything wrong with that! (of course)
Personally I think Do Kyung is little too-good looking.... if that makes any sense.
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nomad
October 29, 2014 at 10:49 AM
You completely made sense.
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36 Lizzy4e
October 29, 2014 at 7:34 AM
I am enjoying the story but I am getting a bit tired of Nae il whining Ori bang and her clinging to Yoo-jin. It must be driving the actress crazy.
That young lady has been acting half her life!
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37 Midori
October 29, 2014 at 8:11 AM
Anyone else bothered by the genius trumps effort and time trope? It's as if the genius doesn't put the same effort and time into practicing which is patently false. Some people just have an intrinsic connection to music that enhances all the time and effort put into practicing that someone without connection will never be able to match.
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SS
October 29, 2014 at 8:22 AM
I don't think that's the trope nor the message. *spoiler* later on you will see how hard they have to work.
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Jon G.
October 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM
There was the earlier assurance that super-genius Yoo-jin had to do all the hard work to be a fantastic violin and piano player (and cook). It's just the conducting thing that comes to him naturally. (Not sure if that really helps ...)
But the line "I'm not a genius, so all I can do is stand next to one" really hit me, I have to confess.
All this is hilariously contrasted by the actual stuff those alleged geniuses do in the show. They are physically and otherwise abused by their incompetent teachers, not only in school but also in that farce of a master class, they are busy with all kinds of things except improving their actual music skills. Instead of assessment-centric competition, competition is only used to bully students and put them under counterproductive stress.
Almost lampshaded by the new "second male lead" cellist, who said that, after his experience at the Juilliard school, he wants simply to have fun playing music. And he joins this hell of a music school.
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SS
October 29, 2014 at 9:14 AM
I never thought that conducting came naturally to Yoo Jin, sure the drama did not show hours and hours of Yoo Jin practicing but in line with a guy who said he practiced violin till his fingers bled, I doubt he just took to the conductor stand without practicing on his own(watching Viera and other masters through the years).
About Do Kyung's line, I thought she sounded bitter more than anything else. She must have known for a while that she is not that gifted but she wants to be the best. So she hung out with one to make herself look good.
As for the rest of your comment, I think you have to remember this is a drama. Who wants to watch the students of a music school practice hours on end or taking assessments?
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liargame91
October 29, 2014 at 9:28 PM
Chiaki is not supposed to be a genius... people thinks he is a genius because he seems perfect but he is really not. Chiaki works hard that is why he is perfect. Nodame is the 'true genuis' because of her ears - she can play a piece even if she only hears it one time and without reading the musical score.
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Mina
October 30, 2014 at 6:32 AM
But Chiaki in the manga IS a musical genius though AND he works hard. I think they just didn't portray that enough in the drama. (People are probably tired of comparisons but in the Japanese version Chiaki works really hard- he stays up late and is always studying music. He even forgets to eat when he's engrossed in his work)
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noooooni
October 31, 2014 at 3:47 AM
Erm, i think they did showcase that in the ep 3 or 4, it portray yoo jin studying hard for conducting, he only eat when naeil fed him. He stay up too. I know nothing about the original, but i did notice yoojin is diligent and genius.
guys, im not pointing only to @mina, i mean all. I know if you know the original is hard not to compare, but please pull yourself together and stop the comparing, please. It finally get on my nerves, i know im being rude, can't you just treat this drama as a stand alone thing?
Yoon
November 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM
I feel the exact same way. Chiaki wasn't someone who became good through practice, he was indeed a musical genius and that was acknowledged by everyone who came into contact with him. But he also worked very, very hard, and the jdrama took a lot of care to showcase this (in my memory every time Chiaki was at home he was always shown working on some score or other). Personally having read the manga first, I think Jdrama Chiaki's characterisation was spot on.
38 sim
October 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM
My only problem is that the actress for Nae Il always falls down in a cartoony way while Yoo Jin isn't playing it in a cartoonish way. It ends up looking like either 1) she's freakin crazy or 2) he's freakin abusive. Like, either she needs to tone it down or he needs to turn it up.
I know I'm slightly biased because I watch this from his P.O.V. (he's giving the strongest performance among the youth in my opinion) but at this point either of them could make adjustments so I don't cringe. I mean, even when he actively shakes her off, it's nothing to fall to the ground over.
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Jon G.
October 29, 2014 at 8:49 AM
I most definitely agree.
The lead couple, however, is only one of the threads in the show that suffer from genre-divergence (meaning that two frequently interacting characters are from different genres and their interaction simply doesn't work, and they are genre-savvy enough to actually reflect that things don't work out).
Another example is Yoo-jin and Stresemann.
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KDaddict
October 29, 2014 at 10:10 AM
Good point. This show does feel 'patchy', in that some parts and chars have a strong cartoonish feel, while others don't. It can be jarring to say the least.
Joo Won is the one who plays his char most like a K drama char, except when he shakes the clinging Nae-il off so violently. I'm sure the directing means for that to be true to its manga roots; unfortunately, it can come off as YJ being abusive.
So far it is still neither completely K drama nor J dorama. It is a hybrid that is confusing in places.
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39 An0ther
October 29, 2014 at 2:20 PM
what a jerk. Right after pushing her onto the ground he takes her away from the cellist in a fit of jealousy. The cellist at least treats her like a woman.
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40 Mika
October 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM
Why Naeil started calling him with "sunbae" instead of "Orabang"?
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vrf3
October 29, 2014 at 6:35 PM
I was just going to ask if anybody noticed that she started calling him "sunbae" I think (although in the subtitles it's "Yoo-Jin"). I myself think that she's started to see him as an actual man and also to make him take her more seriously.
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lemondoodle
October 30, 2014 at 1:25 AM
Well, I think it's because netizens hated the orabang more than anything so they changed it
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Geez
October 30, 2014 at 3:18 AM
Whatever term they use, the netizens who are antis will hate it. TC can't win, damn if they do, damn if they don't. I can say the sabotage or hate campaign worked. You hate it too, don't you? JW is in it.
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lemondoodle
October 30, 2014 at 10:42 AM
Uh, I don't like it because I'm a big fan of the original and I find this just lacks in a lot of ways. Some people like the changes, but for me it's just not the Nodame I love. I have no issue with JW though....? Are you thinking of someone else.
Geez
October 30, 2014 at 3:22 AM
When she started to feel small compared to him.
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Mika
October 30, 2014 at 7:41 AM
Good point, thanks :D
So, she's starting to see Yoo Jin in different light, right?
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41 MCS
October 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM
My hope for the new guy is that not only is he inspired and moved by Naeil, but that he in turn helps her grow. Maybe she can see herself in his eyes and see not only how she should be treated but also realize how she should respect herself.
I know, I know, it's based off a manga (I didn't read it), so her 'cutesyness' is a type of wacky slapstick. But it would make me feel so much better if she developed some self respect.
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42 Dee
October 29, 2014 at 7:18 PM
I'm loving this fresh spin so far with material from the manga (i LOVED the jdorama). Its truly a korean drama style alright, with a stronger focus on the romance. Now I would love it if they bring in more music! More! So glad they showed Nae-Il playing the piano in this episode, I missed hearing/seeing her play. I love Ma Su Min to bits and I'm glad he's part of the main crew who got to go to the music festival.
I think Shim Eun-Kyung is slowly getting a hang of how she wants to make Nae-Il her own style, which is great. Keep it up! Looking forward to more of Nae-Il's inner thoughts. I can't wait for next week!
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Geez
October 29, 2014 at 8:52 PM
I am not inclined towards classical music. When I watched the jdorama, I had many laughs but the music did not leave me with any impression. So people can go on and go about the pieces and I don't know what they are talking about. It is strange that in this kdrama, I am now humming the pieces in my head without knowing their names, LOL! I think it is because this version was able to touch me first and then the music unknowingly got stuck in my head. Maybe the drama drew out my emotions and now I identify it through the music in my subconsciousness?
So for people like me who have no background or interest in any music genre, it is like what Yoo Jin said - does music which does not communicate with the audience have any worth? No matter how perfect or beautiful?
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kaede
October 29, 2014 at 9:22 PM
I agree. No matter how people view the music as fresh or indie or cool or pop or classical or whatever, if it doesn't move me, I will not like it, no matter how they elevate said song on a pedestal. If a song will move my emotion or move me to tears, that is a good song for me.
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43 meimei
October 29, 2014 at 9:50 PM
To be honest, right now Nae Il seems like a rather shallow side character. I really wanted to love her, but the majority of the time I find her more annoying then just quirky. I hate the scene where she got pulled around, and I groaned when I saw the love triangle forming. Totally got Heirs flashbacks with that wrist grab. Personally I find Nae Il quite superficial. She liked Yoo Jin straight up because he was attractive and talented, even though he was cold to her, she still clung on to him. She invades his space and delcares she's his wife to everyone, and apparently cant go 2 hours without seeing him. At times she reminds me of a saesang fan stalking their idol. She doesn't seem to have a lot of self respect and has never even asked Yoo jin if he actually wanted to have her with him. I havent seen the Jdrama so i dont know if she was like this then, but i really feel like i cant connect with her. I really did want her to be a deep layered character, that was relatable, but im just not feeling it.
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dkaoru
October 31, 2014 at 8:07 PM
I don't think she's shallow in that she only likes him because he's handsome and cool. I think initially all the girls like Yoo Jin because of these superficial things. For Na-eil, i think it's after the duet - playing a duet is not easy, you really have to match your partner. I feel that's when she really felt that there's a connection through music, as in oooh this guy is my music soulmate. This was portrayed in her seeing Yoo jin with this hallow glory backlight. But as their friendship/relationship progress, I think her feelings grow and Yoo jin is no longer this crush, but something deeper than that. It's like she's gone from a Yoo jin sasaeng fan to seeing him not just someone you follow around and adore on a pedestal but as a real person, a real man. Which actually made her pulls back some of her crazy antics. The things we do for a celebrity/crush, sometimes we do crazy things but there's also this awareness that it will never lead to anything serious. So it's safe. Whereas Na-eil is growing an awareness that it could lead to something, and she's not quite sure how to process that yet.
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44 kaede
October 29, 2014 at 9:55 PM
I'm loving this drama, so far. But all I can complain is too much Streseman and Dean Mina love line. Dean Mina acts as if she is having her first love! Acting like she's 16 going on 17 when she's not! I want more music and less screen time for these two.
Other people might hate this because of less music and less wacky, but the wacky works on me on anime, not too much on the live action (depends on what drama). Some LOL wacky moments, when not seen as to abusive, works for me. But, yeah, the less wacky in a live drama also works for me. I am still having some laugh track moments in my head whenever I see Naeil go Orabang on Yoo Jin, or Sumin going Cha-neunim on Yoo Jin. And oh, I love Mini Minhee... (Sounds like Mini Mini to me.)
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dkaoru
October 31, 2014 at 8:09 PM
I love Mini Mini too :)
I hope she gets more screentime soon
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45 Callie
October 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM
Aww this drama keeps getting better and better, it's making me fall in love with the Nodame Cantabile characters all over again. I love the new love triangle, Yoo Jin has too much pride, and takes Nae Il forgranted, he needs someone to give him a run for his money.
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46 Carinne
October 30, 2014 at 1:06 AM
LEE YOON-HOO is a great addition. Finally, some spice.
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Mika
October 30, 2014 at 7:37 AM
agreed! :D
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47 harmonyfb
October 30, 2014 at 6:31 AM
At that, Yoo-jin marches over to them and pulls Nae-il right into his chest, and stares Yoon-hoo down.
This drove me mental - not only because of Yoo Jin's ongoing, ridiculous mixed signals, but because of how insulting it is to Nae-il.
I just want to smack Yoo Jin upside the head and say "Make up your damn mind!" There's nothing more aggravating than people who won't give clear signals (do you like her, or not? If you do, let her know, and then you won't have to worry about other men. If you don't, quit acting like a jerk by keeping her from forming attachments with other men.)
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48 Dissenter
October 31, 2014 at 12:27 AM
I wanted to wait a few episodes in before deciding on how I feel about the characters and, to be honest, my opinion hasn't really changed from episode 1. The Japanese version is something memorable and worth re-watching. The Korean version is ok but pales in comparison to the Japanese version.
Pace - The Japanese version was fast paced, funny, but heartfelt. The Korean version is much slower, but not in the "this is deeper" sense, but in the "this is not as funny" sense.
The Music - In the Japanese version, I felt music swirling and interwoven throughout the entire drama. It was, in a sense, dreamy. In the Korean version, I don't feel surrounded by music. I feel surrounded by regular talking like in other Korean dramas, but not music. That's a big factor as to why the magic is lost in the Korean version for me.
The Acting -
Nodame - Japanese Nodame - The way Ueno Juri portrayed her was not as a weird person, but as a person lost in the music in her mind and so she has idiosyncrasies that appear weird to others. It's like she's innocent because she's not bound by socially acceptable standards. You can see the lost look in her eyes sometimes, as though she's talking from a fantasy place in her mind. Korean Nodame - With Shim Eun-kyung's portrayal, I felt like I was watching someone trying to act weird. Often times, the role was overacted. To me, Juri was Nodame and Shim is acting as Nodame. It's not good when I see the acting.
Yoo-Jin and Chiaki - This is going to sound strange but I may give the acting edge to Yoo-Jin but I prefer Chiaki. Chiaki looked tormented by his past chaining him to Japan. His conducting mannerisms were more believable. I just felt that he naturally fit the part better. Yoo-Jin is acted well, but he comes off like every other Korean male lead - brilliant, rich, cold, cocky - in other words, boring.
Mine and Rak - I love them both. I feel as though Mine better captures the feeling of a music student, but Go Kyung-pyo is so adorable (and I don't just mean in the looks department - he has a charm about him) that I enjoy them both.
Mine's Dad and Rak - I love them both but I have to say that Rak's dad in the Korean version is perfectly cast. Him crying after his son's performance as the highlight of the drama for me so far.
Strezeman - I thought the Japanese Strezeman was too over the top and perverted but I think the Korean Strezeman is incredibly mis-cast. Baek Yoon-sik's expressionless, dead-pan eyes as he calls Nodame "baby" is ridiculous. He doesn't even look like he has one erotic or perverted bone in his body. Why did they choose him?
"Big Fan" teacher - I like them both but I prefer the Japanese version. I felt such a range from him. He made me dislike him and then like him and then feel sorry for him and then like him some more.
Violin Girl ConcertMaster - Korean actress is a bad actress and so I liked the Japanese actress better.
It's...
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LoGueENd
November 2, 2014 at 10:49 PM
But, you still watched this drama although you didnt like this drama in first episode.... :-)
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49 Dissenter
October 31, 2014 at 12:28 AM
Comment continued...
It's getting late and so I'll end it here. Basically, the music is missing, half the fun is missing, and the actors in the Japanese version became their characters and the actors in the Korean version is trying hard to act like their characters.
If you haven't see the Japanese version yet, don't watch it. Finish watching the Korean version so that you can enjoy it and then watch the Japanese version so that you can enjoy that too.
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noooooni
October 31, 2014 at 4:44 AM
Hello there, is morning here, good morniiinng!!
I agree on the pacing for once, it did kinda bit slow, well i think is the adult scene fault. If they cut it, it certainly would be much faster pace. In the more recent episode has less adult scene, i felt that 60 min pass so fast!!!
i think the music was nice, the description you decribe for jdrama perfectly fit kdrama too!! I love rock, classical music probably the last thing i choose to hear. I still dont find classic music awesome, but who need my opinion lol. *sarcasm*
about the other i can't comment, i never seen the original, so no comparison battle occur in me.
im enjoying this version. I think is the matter of preference really, when i read your comment, you kinda have biased toward the jdrama. Theres nothing wrong having biased, is like i can't force you liking my bf, if you already in love with yours.
i love the show, i think i wont be watching the jdrama, im afraid i will be comparing them, i dont wanna offend jdrama fans, but im certainly checking the manga out!
till then. See you guys in next recap!!
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LoGueENd
November 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM
that true he/she still like jdorama. Even hollywood ramake 'Nodame Cantabile', she/he still didnt like a remake of it.
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50 sunandhearts
October 31, 2014 at 3:25 AM
Are we even watching the same show? Because I would have to disagree with a lot of the negative comments you've written. Well I guess it really is a matter of personal opinion and preference. You prefer the J-version, and I prefer the K-version. Let's just end it that way.
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Dunna6010
October 31, 2014 at 10:24 AM
I prefer the K version too. So there.
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rpsyk
October 31, 2014 at 2:01 PM
Yeah! Me too. I prefer K ver. than J ver... I enjoy watching K ver. than J ver.
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