Beanie level: Chaebol’s poor doppelganger

One girl, two boys, first male lead typical bad boy, backbencher; rich, second male lead
poor, hardworking, talented. I am seeing a pattern here lol. #school2017

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    Basically school 2015, only they swapped the male leads? What the heck. And I wished to see something more like school 2013.
    Only the first episode and there is already hand grabbing, and almost kissing scene, don’t
    get romantic show, that’s all I hope for. Also, kim jung hyun looks a bit old opposite kim se jung,
    but have to say, already liking jang dong yoon. Why do I always end up having a second lead syndrome, why? :'( So unfair…

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      Hopefully they learned from all the backlash of 2015 and a) they cut out romance entirely which seems doubtful right now or b) she ends up with the the gruff bad boy with a heart of gold

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        I do like the fact that this one has more side stories, which gives a vibe of school 2013, but yeah I fear too that the romance angle would be pushed to the front after a while. Like why for once they can’t make a slice of life school drama. I don’t think all these suspense and mysteries take place in regular schools :S, haha. But that said, I do like kim se jung, she’s a natural in acting I can tell, love her with the girlfriend. I’ll stick for a while I guess. ^^

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Wow so Secret Forest’s writer Lee Soo Yeon is a new writer with only having the credit of co-writing a drama from 2012, this makes me respect her more!

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    I think the drama just proves that we need more dramas with complex and detailed plots rather than fluffs which are more sold over the chemistry between the leads and acting excellence of the actors. Looking at you Kim Eun Sook.

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    I’ve been very impressed with rookie writers this year.

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Nam Joo Hyuk is great in ‘bride of the water god’! [ just checking if I get downvotes or not, or if this is the sole reason for my downvote misery] xD

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Hana yori dango getting a remake and suzu hirose playing the female lead? Oh Please a big NO,don’t ruin the drama! Tao Tsuchiya would be great,the female lead was someone who had a girl next door vibe

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Maybe just me, but with more episodes I’m finding it harder to not see SSK forced acting, her comedic antics look too artificial and pretentious. Ottokkhe,?? really want to stay with the show.#BOTWG

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I think rather than the regular drama tropes, my favorite catnip has to be the angst/ push and pull between the leads in dramas, the way they make us skip heart beats.

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    Omg that Goong scene is one of my faves! <3

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      Haha me too! So much chemistry between these two. I love how Shin says in Korean, ‘don’t leave’, something like tteonaji ma… would have loved to learn the language just to appreciate the way he says it <3.

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        Yes, and it was such a FINALLY moment because the show had started to drag the conflict out too much! That angst! Those two were so hot! 😀

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          Ikr, they took That long to utter the word ‘love’, so frustrating! But yeah they are too good together.❤ Nailed the hotness and cuteness part. Definitely one of my fav despite the dragging in the later half of the drama. 😍😍

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            I love how he hesitantly fell in love with her. He didn’t even realize he was halfway there, even from the start. Tsundere cheeseball. 😀

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Haha, it\’s horrifying to know kind of, that in this same place trolls exist. DB kindly give me some insurance for the trauma I\’m getting out of all the dislikes lol.

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I may sound like a broken record,but people who don\’t like to hear any other opinion take resort to dislike button, and it tells a lot about how they are as a person lol.

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Lol I think I had enough of comments like I know what happened to hyun jae. He goes back to 93 then on 94 goes to the future for good. Guys please read the other comments. Everyone is saying the same.

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    Lol and same for people saying “Hyun-jae’s not the father!! It’s Young-jae!!” every episode like it’s a new theory when people said it from the first episode.

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      ROFL. 😂😂😂 Yeah like give me back the 30 second I waste in reading the theories each time.

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Trying to forget the mess of the show that #thebesthit was, watching #flowerboynextdoor sure helps. Go dok mi and enrique together is love! Now dramagods better make them pair up again!

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New nam joo hyuk appreciation post and a downvote again. At this rate I will have a dislike phobia.😂 Miss those days when people would rather ask questions/ debate over topics.

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    I sound like a broken record but ignore! We’ve been talking about this since yesterday in a post I made on my wall! It’s like no one can state their opinions and likes/dislikes without getting downvoted! There is no discussion, no good arguments! Sadly, you’re not the only one who’s gonna form a dislike phobia, a lot of beanies prefer posting on their walls instead of the recap threads because of the downvotes!

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      Ah I have to go over your wall and whine some more! 😀 Jokes aside, it’s not like I’m traumatized but it feels bad to think that someone are just having fun with the dislike button, and it’s not even any controversial topic. I don’t mind getting downvotes when I’m protesting about some particular actor since there would be always some fans who would feel differently about their idols, but this time it sucks. And yeah what happened to good old healthy discussions? :/

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        *Someone is

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        We had fun! LOL!

        Exactly! I don’t mind the downvotes if I know why I got them, it’s the confusion and the frustration of not knowing that’s driving beanies crazy! Almost everyone in BotWG post was complaining about this yesterday! Why can’t everyone just enjoy a nice show! Why can’t those who don’t like it just drop it?!

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          Yeah the perks of the online platforms :S. Rather than taking part in discussions and positive criticism, some maybe can’t or won’t accept any other pov apart from their own.

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    I don’t think this is just beanies disagreeing with your opinion. It appears that Nam Joo Hyuk is very unpopular. This reminds me of those fanwars in other blogs/forums.

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      I agree he has still to grow a lot as an actor. But still he is surprisingly doing better than I thought. Anyway each to their own right.

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        Exactly! I liked him a lot in WFKBJ but I can’t say that he’ll do well in everything. So far, I am enjoying him as Ha-baek. I don’t understand why people even spend their energy downvoting to express their dislike for him.

        I am clueless to all the k actors fandoms, I didn’t think NJH is famous enough to warrant such attention, ha.

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          IKR, hate is a strong expression, so it’s scary to see people openly disliking the fact that we like his effort at least.

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    Work harder to gain many more upvotes so these petty downvotes won’t ruin your day😆 💃 There’s nothing wrong to fangirl anyone we loves. Don’t pay attention to it.

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      Aww thank you Sera! Love how all of you girls have been showering my feed with kind words. ^^

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    Don’t mind it too much, and there’s a chance someone miss the reply button and hit downvote instead. I did that several times. can’t even un-downvote

    Cheer upb

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      Oh but you can un-downvote! If you press on the upvote button after mistakenly downvoting someone, it changes to an upvote! I hope others know this too!

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        Great info! Thank youu

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        Haha yeah learned that from experience. Also once I upvoted my own comment, one of the most awkward moments of my life. 😀

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      @amaimikan Hahah, I think I have done that too once, then feeling horrified, went back to upvote the comment. That simple thought never crossed my mind! Thank you for the love! <3

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Life lesson from Drama: When habaek says to so ah, \’You want lots of money to be happy in life\’, doesn\’t that mean it\’s actually happiness that you\’re looking for?\’

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Omg, what the heck, I got 2 down votes just for voicing that I liked Nam joo Hyuk as habaek on BOFTWG, 😂😂😂. What is wrong with these people? Or there is some kind of deadly down vote virus on DB😮

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Because #the best hit keeps disappointing me, I will go back to watch my favorite drama of YSY, # the flower boy next door. YSY looks so great with Park Shin Hye. ^^

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    And I’ll rewatch High Kick 2. At least his one-sided love there is cute and sweet. And his unique interaction with Hwang Jung-eum is to die for. (Why can’t more dramas depict this kind of cute platonic relationship between man and woman??)

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      Does his character have a proper ending in this one? In that case I will go for it too. Btw is this the drama where shin se kyung screams from the balcony and tell YSY’s character, ‘student, your pantiee’ 😀 😀 I saw YSY talking about it on happy together lol.

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        Hmm.. Maybe you haven’t heard, but High Kick 2 has an infamous tragic ending for a sitcom. Yoon Shi-yoon’s character fare better though. And the rest of the series is great imo.

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          Ah, I think I have heard about it, just wasn’t sure if season 2 was the one :S. Nevermind, I am going through drama slumps, so this helps, thanks! ^^

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    I marathoned that after The Best Hit startef airing and I couldn’t get enough YSY. I’m debating whether I should rewatch Baker King or not. It’s a 30-hour commitment after all.

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      Haha, yoon si yoon is so much swoon worthy, <3 it's a given that you can't get enough of him 😀 . Really really wish he gets a full-fledged rom-com next time. I'm prepared to get blown away. Is baker king good enough though? Looks a bit makjang to me?

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        It’s reallyyyyy good! It’s actually the drama that got me so hooked to kdrama. It was my number 1 all time favourite until Six Flying Dragons came in and took it. It does follow the makjang format but I never thought it was too much. The writing is really good and it has a satisfying ending. It’s also nice to see YSY in his early years as an actor and of course, this is Joo Won’s first acting gig too.

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          Joo Won yes! And it has got Eugene too whom I much adore. And I did hear that Baker King has made YSY immensely popular, and made him people’s favorite. I think I will go for it first. Thank you!

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            Eugene was really good in there too! And little Kim Sohyun played Takgoo’s 2nd sister when they were young. Baker King reached 50%, if I remembered correctly. People still call him Takgoo up to this day.

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      Btw love your profile pic. Sunbaenim is so cutee in the picture. Fingers still crossed for signal season 2.

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So much Ji Hoon bashing going on soompi forums, sigh.

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    Ji-hoon of The Best Hit? Why? What Happened? I have yet to watch the episodes of this week but I love him!

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      Haha, nothing much, I took a look on soompi and that’s the gist I got, in short.

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    I sort of foresaw it when they decided to pull a Reply 1988 on the viewers. I love both JH and HJ equally so I kind of low-key wish WS would end up with someone else outside of the rooftop group of friends, so their friendship wouldn’t be affected by the romance. I also hope they won’t pair HyeRi with JH because as much as I feel for her as a struggling idol I don’t think her moves on JH are excusable considering he has made it perfectly clear for her that he’s already interested in someone else.

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      Yeah tbh at some time, I thought HJ was shippable with BH, especially the rooftop scenes, but in any case, him without any GF, would do too. I kind of don’t see any chemistry between the actress playing WS and YSY. Also yes, hyeri is simply violating his privacy, he clearly said he has someone else in mind, which I thought was quite honest from his side, he didn’t want to make her hopes high, that’s how I saw it.

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        I agree. This is one show in which even each character doesn’t end up with a loveline, I’m fine. I’m fine with romance too, for the records, but I’d love it more if the show sticks to its comedic root.

        I understand HyeRi would feel hurt and disappointed when rejected by someone she likes (who wouldn’t?), but I’d prefer if she would approach him again in a more subtle way and respect his personal space.

        I guess chemistry is indeed subjective because I can sense chemistry between WS-HJ and WS-JH (ack!! 😆) but I still understand if WS-HJ pairing fails to convince you. To be very honest I personally think WS has a soft spot for JH and rejected him not entirely because she only sees him as a friend, as sometimes I’ve got the impression that she’s flustered at his gentleman-ish gestures. At this point I don’t get the impression that she’s completely fallen for any of the guys yet. Maybe my impression is wrong, but that’s how I feel.

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          Ah, I’m with you on this. I won’t mind either if there is no definite loveline or conclusion on romance at the end. For instance, like you said yeah WS doesn’t probably feel anything romantic for any of the guys yet, there are those momentary pauses, but the director/writer ignored or overlooked the prospect and make the moments pass away. So, maybe we should only take note of what the characters say out loud, instead of what they feel. 😀
          ”To be very honest I personally think WS has a soft spot for JH and rejected him not entirely because she only sees him as a friend, as sometimes I’ve got the impression that she’s flustered at his gentleman-ish gestures.’
          Haha, yeah to me it seemed like she ‘can’ think of him as more than a friend, but as I said above, the writer doesn’t develop those moments and let them pass, so we’re back to square one, every time WS-HJ-JH are interacting.
          On chemistry, I do suffer a lot because of this lol, most of the time rather than the actors it’s the story which becomes the decisive moments for me in terms of who to ship or not. So though I LOVE YSY, on TBH, I find the relationship of WS-JH lot more convincing, and interesting, their relationship can go from easy to attractive in a split second, but which isn’t the case for da bong and WS. Da bong actually suits WS as a servant, and I enjoy their relationship more in a platonic kind of way..until now, at least. -_-

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    My baby didn’t do anything wrong, though. Why?? 😢😢

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      Haha, just cause he kissed her, people stated, he was being annoying and should try to grab a hold on his poorly handled life. :S

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He smiled, omg he smiled, and credit goes to uri yeo jin, eee. ^^

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    Is this in ep 8? 😀 I’m still waiting for the subs to come out. I love these two too much.

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      Yesss I just watched this part lol. 😂

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      Yes guys EP 8, I love these two too, is it too much to hope for at least a minimum level of hint of romance between these two? 😪😪 I really want Yeo Jin to change Shi Mok for good.

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        I’m secretly rooting for them too but I’d be just happy to see their interactions. I haven’t seen any interactions in kdramas with as much ease as this for a while 😀

        Both female lead characters in this show are well-written and strong in their own way, but somehow Yeo-jin is a tad more relatable to me so shipping her with Shi-mok feels like shipping him with myself oops 😆 (j/k haha)

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        On that topic…I wanted her to give him a drwing of his smiley face! *pout* He has only one of him being angry, that’s just sad. Accept her gifts already Shi Mok! ^^’

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Oh there, he said it, pull yourself together, she\’s the girl your son likes. Finally, the cat is out of the bag then. I see now where this is going, lol. Signing off # Thebesthit.

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I want to pull a \’best hit\’ move on myself, I am ready to go down the stairs and time travel to three weeks in future da bong style, if that\’s what it would take to know who the real otp is. -_-

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    Lol, I don’t think it even matters who the otp is at this point. They already screwed up so much with this love triangle, I don’t see how they can get out of this mess anymore. I guess I just don’t care anymore either.

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      Haha IKR..I know I should stop being curious, then Friday comes and can’t stop from taking a peek. Still, 10 episodes left, so I guess a lot more teasing and frustrating moments to come..aka more hair pulling.

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    Nope I don’t want to go down the stairs in that way. I prefer to use the Tunnel 😁

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      LOL haha. Thanks for reminding me of the Tunnel, going through a drama slump, so maybe it’s high time I start watching. Now that circle is over and woojin has made me cry a bucket of tears. I would have loved to check out Lookout too if only seul gi was the lead and had screentime for one hour straight, fast forwarding through episodes can be tiresome hehe.

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Can’t accept the ending of circle…of course in BG’s place I would have saved the clone too, but the way they never acknowledged the death of real woojin was too painful to watch.

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    About cloning, so would we be happy with having an identical looking person, or keep making clones when we loss someone? What about the memories, the thoughts, the relationships we build with the real person then? Of all, only the villain park dong yeon, asks the right question, “if he’s woojin then what about your brother the real woojin? What does that make him?” I wish the ending was something of a reminiscence of the two brothers and their lovely camaraderie. Like the way they ended the show, it seemed like woojin never died. Plus, after staying with woojin for 11 episodes, to see his tragic ending was too much for the heart to take. If this was a book I don’t think people would have been able to connect to the writers with the conclusion they arrived. At least while reading, the face won’t have been able to deceive us..

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      Circle dealt with memories and how they give the identity to a person. Jung Yeon was Jung Yeon because she lived and made memories and formed relationships with everyone with that persona and she never regained Byul’s memories and thus lost her alienness(?). In a similar way, Jung Yeon, Bum Gyum and the others accepted the clone as Woo Jin because he had all the memories which made him Woo Jin. Even though, the original Woo Jin died, his memory was preserved in his clone and also new memories were made each day the clone lived. So I guess the memories are a person’s essence. But cloning does raise a lot of ethical questions which have no right answers.

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        Circle had a great premise but yeah the concepts tackle with sensitive issues, I still can’t buy the ‘because he has woojin’s memory, he is woojin part..’ Since it’s not him, not his body or soul. They just accepted their fate as it is, with the clone woojin, but which I felt is wrong for the clone too, he has a separate identity with different mind and soul, so why should he keep living in woojin’s shadow. I can understand where Jung yeon came from, she made that decision on her own of erasing her memory, it was still her…same goes for bum gyun yoo. But not in the case of woojin lol. Anyway sorry for whining over woojin since yesterday 😅

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          I agree with you. I am still challenged at the New Woojin, since he is not Woojin and it seemed like the writers wanted joon hyuk and us to forget the real person too with whom we spent 11 episodes and basically saw the whole show from his pov. I also think Prof. Park’s question wasn’t properly addressed. Even if the show focuses on memories, only memories don’t make a person.

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            This. Exactly ..you pretty much nailed it. We saw the show from woojin’s POV, so it is hard to forget him so easily and be satisfied with his replica, as you said, memory alone isn’t everything of a person, what about his traits, intellect, personality, what makes him him. I was a bit confused too with the show’s use of memory, or the definition of what makes a person ‘him’. It’s not a math’s equation which we can prove easily. Just because bum gyun has woojin’s memory too, we don’t say he is woojin, so why that rule applies for the clone? The principles were a bit too simplistic to agree with, imo.

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            So was the ending. I mean throughout the show, the guys in 2037 have been honestly dumb. They weren’t that smart and the villians were usually one step ahead. However they solved the whole Human B thing so easily like all the other powerful people in the world turn a blind eye toa powerful person being in trouble. I just thought it was too simply and easily resolved when these were the guys who were creating havoc in 2017. Nonetheless throughout the show 2017 has always been more smartly crafted and intriguing.

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          Honestly, he has the exact same memories so I do see him as Woo jin…..the thing is just…..the boy that died was also Woo jin. So I felt really sad for that boy called Woo jin that died surrounded by people and yet utterly alone on that hard pavement in the dark. He never got a happy ending. In his last moments he called out to his friend and his brother, knowing that he wouldn’t be able to keep his promise, that he wouldn’t be able to see them ever again.
          That there exists a clone of him does not take away from that poor boys tragic fate. It just takes away some of the sadness felt by the people he left behind. I did want them to morn Woo Jin a bit more though.

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            Bubbles yeah that’s what my beef with the show is too. They purely ignored the woojin who dies alone on the road, reaching out for the star as if that was the last memory of his brother and byul. Also when circulate 3 was describing to bum gyun what woo jin said to him before he left..that he’s scared, that he will be back, and not to forget him, bum gyun upon hearing this, hugs woojin 2 and tells him it must have been hard for him. I wished he said it looking up to the sky addressing the woojin that died, his real brother. The way the show pretty much ignored the loss of the main protagonist of the show , that kind of doesn’t do justice to the fighter that woojin was, or his resilience. I guess they wanted to pull off a pure science fiction move, and went for something totally drastic.

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            I can’t reply to your comment so I will just write my reply here. I think that both, the Woo jin that died and the one that was in front of him deserved to hear those words but considering that the Woo jin that died…is dead, I understand that he said it to the boy in front of him – however- I did also not feel all that comfortable with that scene and I def understand what you mean. As it was shown it almost felt like the brother was just lying to himself or using Woo jin 4 (Circulate 3 so probably the 3rd clone and as follows the 4th Woo jin) as a proxy. If they would have acknowledged Woo jin’s death though, I wonder if Woo jin 4 would have continued to have an identity crisis. It’s probably also simply because of the small number of episodes, they didn’t have enough time for an appropriate amount of grief.

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            I feel like they just wanted to find an ethical way of pairing up an alien with a human- lets make him a clone instead. But both of you are right they should have mourned him more or better never killed him in first place but not forget him at all.

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Circle just messed up in the biggest possible way, this deserves a Big WHATTHEHECK. And I\’m gonna smack byul\’s head hard, what the hell does she mean by, \’ because he has woojin\’s memory, he\’s woojin!

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    Spoilers: What a way to destroy my fav drama, wow. I shed some tears for the real woojin who was scared to go alone to fight the big guys, and who died in an unconscious state in a closed room. And that stupid byul has the audacity to act like the clone is the real woojin. This is just not working. And of course a clone is a different person, he’s supposed to have his own memory. The drama really made it look like there won’t be any hope for humanity. To see the show from woojin’s POV, and then to give him such a terrible and pitiful ending,it’s just plain wrong. Also what about the woojin then who was smiling in the chairman’s room…how come he wasn’t unconscious. Can’t accept the ending, 😥😥.

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      There are more than 1 way to look at this cloning issue. Is a clone an exact replica of the original? In real life, there are many debates concerning this and to date, we have only clone animals. Is the personality the same? How about the soul? The questions are never ending.

      I think this show may purport that cloning result in the exact replica if the memories are identical. However, what happened to Woo Jin version 1 and 2? Did they expire faster because they were clones? Evidence so far show that clones die earlier.

      I don’t blame Jung Yeon. Different people accept loss differently. Perhaps to her, accepting the clone is better than facing the fact that Woo Jin is no longer alive. It’s not the end yet so who knows what will happen.

      Still, it is a very sad ending for Woo Jin. That was the most horrible slow mo I’ve ever seen. 😭

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        Perhaps to her, accepting the clone is better than facing the fact that Woo Jin is no longer alive—
        Yeah perhaps, but still she reached that conclusion so fast, also no concern at all for the real woojin, at least Kim bum gyun was acknowledging the sad reality, and was devastated over the loss of his brother. I can’t believe they actually gave such a cruel ending to woojin , although now that I’ve seen the whole course of the show, maybe it was a given that the twins won’t have a happy ending.😓😓😓
        I’m curious about clones too, also duel is running, where one clone is scared of the other one, they deal with the two of them as separate individuals, but I have no idea how it should work IRL. Like you said what about the souls, also they are separate human beings, albeit being clones. I’m wondering too what happened to circulate 1 and 2. Maybe that’s why human cloning won’t ever get legalized? I’m still dealing with the shock from the loss of woojin and then there are his clones…bum gyun must have felt terrible. And then how bad would it be for people who would actually go through it..can’t imagine.

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          The fantasy may be to create clones which are exactly like the original. So if man cannot find the elixir of life, would cloning be the answer? That is if we disregard the soul. The biggest question is what makes you – you?

          These issues aside, see how Bum Gyun cried and hugged Woo Jin Circulate 3? It’s better than talking to the air, right? So if human cloning is possible, I won’t be surprised how people will use it to clone their dying or dead loved ones so that they will never lose them. And there will be others who find this an abomination.

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            These issues aside, see how Bum Gyun cried and hugged Woo Jin Circulate 3? It’s better than talking to the air, right? —
            I’m not sure honestly how I would feel about it personally…seeing the replica of someone I loved in front of me I think the pain would increase tenfold, instead of lessening down. So would I welcome the idea, may be not. But yeah it does bring up lots of interesting concepts and provokes our mind. In any case, I wasn’t prepared at all for woojin to die, so I would rather that woo jin died, so we could mourn him properly, now I am rattled by the presence of his clone.. Also seeing that no one is thinking about real woojin and probably the show is trying hard to sell the idea of ‘”because he has woojin’s memory, he ‘is’ woojin..” which I can’t accept. How hard must have been for the 18 year old to go through it all alone. And now we’re left with someone who looks like him, and suddenly woojin story has stopped. Seems very depressing and horrifying to me all in all.

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      When I remembered what happened with WJ throughout his life and then die like that, it breaks my heart. And I agree with BG’s first reaction. He is clone with WJ’s memories. But I also understand JY (to the extend DS). Because this show is all about memories and She is not human after all, imo. So she can accept that idea.

      BG’s struggle is my struggle too, His dongsaeng who he searched all these years died, and what left is the clone with his memories. It’s hard to accept it.. I’m not sure about the ending.. but in my head, at the end WJ’s clone will died too after all this matter (human B) resolved

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        When I remembered what happened with WJ throughout his life and then die like that, it breaks my heart.–
        Ikr, those 18 years is all he lived, didn’t expect this at all. And yeah now tgat you said it, it kind of makes sense that since byul is an alien, so maybe she doesn’t fully understand human emotions, and how overwhelming it can be.So when Bum Gyun was crying it must be because he was thinking about all the sacrifices his brother made for him and he couldn’t save him. Maybe he would even come to warm up to the clone,but in his mind, the void left by woojin, the feeling of loss will never go away.

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          *that

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          Yeah.. the fact WJ is dead cannot be forgotten even though there is the clone with his memory. That’s way part of me really want The clone to die at the end.. so they (and we) can mourn properly (agree with your reply). But I also want Woojin’s memories (aka The clone) can have happy ending with JY, at least “his memories” is happy😢. He is a clone, JY is an alien.. so why not

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