Onew leaves Age of Youth 2, last-minute replacement sought
by javabeans
With the much-anticipated Age of Youth 2 set to premiere in less than two weeks, it was a particularly sticky time for a cast member to be hit with controversy, as was the case with SHINee member Onew (Descended From the Sun) over the weekend when he was accused of sexual assault. That put a dark cloud over the production for Age of Youth 2, and ultimately it has been decided that Onew will leave the show.
Onew was accused of sexual assault by a woman he encountered at a club (regarding two instances of unwanted bodily contact). His explanation called it a misunderstanding that arose as he was dancing while drunk, leading to the unintended contact. The woman later dropped the accusation and both sides are said to have reached an understanding. According to his management company, SM Entertainment, Onew spoke with the producers before coming to the decision to leave the show, and apologized for stirring criticism.
Given that the matter was settled before it turned into a lawsuit or charges, I hadn’t expected Onew to leave the show; there have been enough instances of actors encountering scandal and continuing with their roles. However, this show hasn’t yet aired, and perhaps the drama production felt they had (barely!) enough time to scramble to find a replacement. (In my very unscientific memory, when scandals break before shows premiere, there seems to be a higher chance of the actor leaving; it’s when shows are already on the air that it’s more tricky to write them out or replace them.) And perhaps the accusation (albeit dropped) created a particularly uncomfortable situation, since Onew was to be romantically paired with Han Seung-yeon in a “healing relationship” while her character recovered from trauma after spending last season being physically abused by her boyfriend.
In any case, according to a source with the production, the team is in talks regarding a replacement. With only ten days left, they’ll have to move quickly. Age of Youth 2 kicks off on JTBC next Friday, August 25.
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1 Cheng Cheng
August 15, 2017 at 9:00 PM
I thought it was sexual harrassment? Is it actually sexual assault? omona.
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javabeans
August 15, 2017 at 9:02 PM
The Korean word used refers to both sexual assault and harassment. Since physical contact was involved, assault is more appropriate.
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Requiem
August 16, 2017 at 12:15 AM
While sexual assault and sexual harassment are both bad, there's a SIGNIFICANT difference with being accused with one and the other. This is because there's a specific, tighter definition that is applied when sexual assault is the charge, and while contact is usually a main criteria (though not always that), it is NOT the only criteria.
This is why a person isn't going to be prosecuted for sexual assault when they give someone an unwanted hug vs. rape.
Please don't just throw around the term because it seems to match superficially.
From what I've read on another site, it's possible that it was sexual assault, but it's also quite possible that it was sexual harassment. He grabbed the victim's leg twice while she was dancing on a table he was close to when he was stone-cold drunk. While it's possible there might have been sexual contact, there's also a possibility there was no sexual contact.
I think it's better to err on the side of caution when making accusations that could be this damaging.
Either way, Onew was an idiot for doing what he did and definitely in the wrong. Hopefully, he learns from this experience and can be more responsible in his drinking and actions.
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Jibber Jabber Drama
August 16, 2017 at 2:20 AM
Not having read the particulars of this incident anywhere than here at Dramabeans, I still think it's important to point out that: sexual assault is a pretty broad catch-all term across the world for different levels of sexual misconduct, so it's appropriate here. Sexual harassment on the other hand tends to make people think of verbal harassment, particularly in the workplace, which isn't the scenario here at all. We aren't going to learn if this would be considered sexual assault in the legal sense because this isn't going to court, and going with the widely recognisable term is fine.
I think we can both agree that Onew was an idiot though!
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Miky
August 16, 2017 at 4:40 AM
They said soemthing like he was very drunk and the girl was a stage/level above him and in his state he grabbed her leg to try to stand up and was more like touching without having any idea(like grabbing a pole) rather than other stuff and that's why even if by right the women might be offended understood and let go of the charges...
Gidget
August 16, 2017 at 8:11 AM
Whaaaaat?!!! So, this chick decides to dance on a table (giving everyone a good view of her nether-regions). Then claims she's been assaulted when a dude simply touches her leg a couple of times?!!! That's plain crazy.
This girl obviously craves attention. Solution: let her experience her share of responsibility and receive as much public shaming and employment fallout as the guy.
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What??!!!
August 16, 2017 at 8:39 AM
What a terrible comment! Please note that she's dancing in a club where the tables are being used as a dancing platform. By dancing on it or anywhere else, it's by no means she was asking to be touched. Please stop such harassment/shaming of the victim. Even if a girl is touched in an inappropriate manner on her elbows it is sexual harassment, let alone on the legs. Victim shaming is horrendous and although your sympathy may lie with Onew please do be aware that the prosecutors are now still investigating him despite the fact that the girl has dropped her case (which according to the police, she was pressured by some factors to do so).
TrinPie
August 16, 2017 at 8:58 AM
This is straight up victim shaming. It's the same as saying 'she wore a short skirt so deserved to be raped'. No NO NO. Just because she is dancing on a table stage does NOT mean she wants to be touched. A woman (or man) could be walking around naked but that does NOT mean it gives anyone the right to touch them without permission. And how do you know she was wearing a skirt? She could easily have been wearing shorts which doesn't show anything, but either way it does not give the right for him to touch her like that. And what is her share of the responsibility? Is she and any woman not allowed to dance and enjoy themselves anymore? Stop the victim and slut shaming please, it is disgusting.
pogo
August 16, 2017 at 10:19 AM
This comment is deeply misguided and very wrong - please stop blaming the victim, and reconsider why you feel the need to do so.
Her dancing does NOT give anyone the right to grab her and pass it off as 'he was just drunk'.
Gidget
August 16, 2017 at 11:02 AM
Sheesh, you guys really have to develop some nuance in your analysis of situations. Adults take responsibility for the part they played in the situations they find themselves in. Part 1. She owns part of this.
Clubs will always have idiots in them. The female idiot: The girl who dances on tables and tells herself she won't come across like a pole dancer. She's put herself in the position of being misinterpreted.
Whether or not a touch is sexual harassment has to be considered in context. Was it just a matter of close proximity? Not harassment. Was it normative behavior for the social environment? Not harassment. Was it a simple response to a woman who's signaled her 'availability'? Not harassment. Was it persistent groping or touch after the woman has clearly said stop AND tried to remove herself from proximity? Harassment. Was it done while entrapping the woman? Harassment. Was it done in concert with stalking behavior? Harassment.
Women that consider any form of touch to be sexual harassment, well (how do I say this), they're flattering themselves. And there ARE women out there that bait men into these charges. They deserve to be exposed for what they are: perpetrators, not victims.
And I have no idea of who this guy is; other than being told in this post that he's a part of a successful boy band. I'm a little to old for that.
calamityjanedoe
August 16, 2017 at 11:22 AM
This is victim-blaming. What a woman wears or how she dances at a club does NOT mean she deserves to be sexually assaulted.
Please rethink these repulsive thoughts. Imagine if she were your sister, mother, or girlfriend. Blame the ATTACKER, not the victim.
TrinPie
August 16, 2017 at 11:34 AM
"The female idiot: The girl who dances on tables and tells herself she won't come across like a pole dancer."
Pole dancers can't be touched either, it's against most club policies. And even if she does come across as a pole dancer, it doesn't matter. You are victim and slut shaming. You are saying she should not have been having fun and dancing provocatively because doing so gives a signal that it's ok to be touched. Unless someone gives consent it is not ok to touch anyone like that, no matter how they are dressed or how they are dancing. And I can assure you most women do not want to be randomly touched like that by a complete stranger.
Saying the woman has the responsibility is removing the responsibility from the man. Your argument keeps women in a box and doesn't give them the freedom to dress or act how they want. No, men need to assume a woman does not want to be touched unless she gives permission to, not tell women how they are allowed to dress or dance.
And just a note. This is for any gender.
Gidget
August 16, 2017 at 11:54 AM
Part 2. I know what I'm talking about, from experience.
When I was a bit younger I went through a party girl phase. Not the sleazy kind of party girl. But the kind of fun-in-the-sun sporty party girls from those old surf themed movies. My screen name was the nickname they gave me.
I didn't bait anyone with sexualized behavior. But sometimes guys misinterpreted. They mistook my efforts to make them feel good about themselves in a fun environment as interest. Most were gentlemen. But a few used the close proximity of a dance floor to get handsey... and a few got downright gropey.
If someone made excessive contact (no contact is impossible on a crowded dance floor) I simply told them with a smile and firm but cheerful voice to back off. But occasionally guys didn't 'get it' right away if they were really drunk. So if I had to make the request a second time, I became firmer in the request and walked away. If they pushed into my space after that they would meet a fierce icy side of me that put some sense into them.
Despite the 'contact' I never thought myself a victim of anything but mis-judgment. I owned the situations I was in. And I owned how I responded to unpredictable human behavior. To claim myself a victim was to destroy my sense of agency.
In one instance I had a very close call, that came out of the blue. (I'm pretty sure he was trying to drug me...yikes! Praise God for spidey sense in that moment.) After that, I told him to refrain from any form of contact. When he tried to persist I said I'd get the police involved. Eventually he went away. Again, I didn't perceive myself a victim. I have responsibility to watch out for myself and exercise good judgment by not putting myself in bad situations. If the close call had turned into a real situation, I would have been a legitimate victim and he would have been a legitimate perp.
So, then, have I experienced what i consider to be legitimate harassment? Yes. A boss came on to me at a retreat and insisted I go to his hotel room with him. No harm no foul. I passed it off like nothing happened. (Which was an exercise in restraint since this disgusting excuse for a human being was married with two teenage kids.)
But then he retaliated by trying to interfere with my work performance record. That was definitely harassment.
So I went to the head of HR and asked her to help calm the situation down. Her response? She tried to help him engineer a record of non performance. Didn't work, as I had kept everything well-documented and had an airtight case. The real rub was when a year later this same head of HR was on the cover of Fortune Magazine. Why. The magazine was extolling her as one of the best HR execs in the US for promoting diversity and inclusion in the workplace. LOL. Hypocrite.
TrinPie
August 16, 2017 at 12:51 PM
Just because you handled those situations like that doesn't mean other people will or are equipped to. And I'm sorry, but I do not want to be touched or groped by a stranger no matter what my situation is, and clearly the woman in this case feels the same way. It's awesome you handled those situations like that, but please don't negate this woman's feelings just because you might have been in the same situation and don't agree. She felt violated and we should respect that.
bram
August 16, 2017 at 12:53 PM
What you said was so gross.
np
August 16, 2017 at 2:03 PM
The problem of solving such problems silently is you are making it easier for perverts. To harass weaker girls with no fierce icy side and perfectly organised documentation at work. Being a serial rapist is quite easy - not many would go to police afterwards. Sadly.
Speaking generally here.
heyitschristina
August 16, 2017 at 6:13 PM
" This girl obviously craves attention. Solution: let her experience her share of responsibility and receive as much public shaming and employment fallout as the guy." <.... this right here is why most victims of harassment and assault give up on their cases especially when it involves a perpetrator with wealth and status. It seems like she only dropped the case because she was scared people like you would find out who she was and shame her for no reason. Also sorry to break to you but dancing on tables at the club is not abnormal and happens often. And guess what not every guy is a drunk mess who feels the need to touch the girl dancing on the table
Jibber Jabber Drama
August 17, 2017 at 7:22 AM
What an absolutely horrifying statement.
There really is no justification for this kind of extreme victim-blaming.
Gidget
August 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM
Well, we're going to have to agree to disagree. I think those views make illogical leaps and/or are largely extremist nonsense.
Several idiots grabbing my hand or putting their arm around my waist and a couple of guys putting their hand on my butt over the course of 10 years didn't damage me physically or psychologically.
And I'd say that the old-school way of looking at things made stronger women with a more developed sense of agency. Bear in mind, we were the ones to tear down the patriarchy barrier, not this generation.
Taking ownership for the situations you put yourself in and an empowered way of handling problems made women far stronger and and equipped to handle problems.
Todays women are becoming more psychological fragile, and are increasingly consumed by an overdeveloped sense of their own preciousness.
This, combined with the lewd exhibitionist behavior makes a woman nothing but a hypocrite at best, or provocateur at worst.
'Nuff said.
2 jillian
August 15, 2017 at 9:04 PM
I understand why he would need to leave the show. Sticky sticky situation for the entire production team though. Hope they find a suitable replacement stat.
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3 bebeswtz
August 15, 2017 at 9:10 PM
SM didn't help the situation, in terms of Onew's reputation... Requesting the plaintiff to sign some papers to ensure that she dropped the charges??? Yup, smooth, SM
https://www.soompi.com/2017/08/14/shinee-onews-sexual-harassment-case-forwarded-prosecution/
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modestgoddess
August 16, 2017 at 9:11 AM
SM clearly pressured the victim to drop the charges. I don't know why everyone is buying SM's explanation that it was accidental contact when he touched her more than once.
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bebeswtz
August 16, 2017 at 10:00 PM
I don't know the details of the situation, and I know that in most, if not all the articles, there will for sure be some sort of media play, but the fact that SM stepped in to ask the girl to sign some documents to drop charges for sure does not help in preserving Onew's reputation *facepalm*
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4 purplesheesh
August 15, 2017 at 9:18 PM
Awww shucks but it's understandable given his role in the drama. Hmmm, I wonder who'll replace him though. Any suggestions?
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panshel
August 16, 2017 at 10:47 AM
Lee You Jin is in talks to replace Onew.
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5 Katz
August 15, 2017 at 9:19 PM
To be frank, I'm relieved that he's stepping down there's been so much drama. I'm still dumbfounded that an actor would get so intoxicated and cause trouble, prior to his drama airing. I hope the victim is okay and recovering, and that Onew uses this time to reflect. Let's move on, and fingers crossed there's no more drama involving AOY.
On a different topic: Ryu Jun Yeol and Hyeri are dating??!! (Hmmmm Dispatch, why now?)
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Sir pawcelot
August 15, 2017 at 10:25 PM
Knowing how scary knetz it's better for him to leave the show...
I am sorry but my comment above just obligatory.
I am really happy for rjy and hyeri......#teamjungpal
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h3lla
August 15, 2017 at 10:38 PM
Really???? OTP hold it down!! *10 fire emojis*
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Katz
August 15, 2017 at 10:45 PM
It's been confirmed by RJY's agency hehe ^^
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hawoojinruinedme
August 15, 2017 at 10:53 PM
Ryu Jun Yeol and Hyeri are dating?? Eeeeh! Finally, the (second) lead gets the girl!
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klesis
August 15, 2017 at 11:36 PM
Really? So cute. Yeeeyyyy.
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Mini
August 16, 2017 at 11:43 AM
Haha the same thing happened in flower boy ramyun shop~
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Juliesean
August 16, 2017 at 12:42 AM
OMG!!!!! Shippers got the last laugh in the end !!! He got the girl....
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pogo
August 16, 2017 at 10:21 AM
hahahahaha it's an Answer Me ship in real life!
(full confession, I was Team Taek but I find this irl development adorable and squee-worthy)
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6 astromantic
August 15, 2017 at 9:29 PM
My first thought was, "at least he a conscience (unlike other actors who will still appear in family friendly weekenders despite more serious allegations)" ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
On the drama side of things though, I think it would be nice if they didn't look for a replacement. They could take this chance to allow for Ye-eun to develop herself independently (no romance needed), which would be refreshing character arc. I feel bad for the staff having to scramble so suddenly though. :(
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callie
August 16, 2017 at 12:46 AM
Agreed. Honestly, Ye Eun shouldn't be back in a relationship so soon. I'd love for her arc this season to be about recovering from her trauma and finding value in herself outside her femininity and her relationships with men. This season seems too preoccupied with roping everyone into a loveline.
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Gidget
August 16, 2017 at 8:31 AM
Great point! It would still mean she's still getting her sense of personal dignity and worth from an external source. That's a recipe for a volatile emotional life.
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7 Nancy
August 15, 2017 at 9:47 PM
Another reason why I look forward to this drama is because of Onew but it's too bad he had to leave the show due to the unfortunate incident that happened last weekend. Sigh, I hope the production team will quickly find a replacement.
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8 Pomme
August 15, 2017 at 10:03 PM
I was looking forward to his character in the drama...It sucks too because it's so close to the air date, hopefully, they find a good replacement.
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9 seoul_searcher
August 15, 2017 at 10:28 PM
Why is there so much drama in a drama man I feel sorry for the show itself
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annnsow
August 17, 2017 at 3:45 AM
I feel sorry for the girl who was harassed...
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10 nanoflower
August 15, 2017 at 10:32 PM
This past week was not a good time to become a new SHINee fan :/ After seeing Onew in one of the teasers, I ended up going a SHINee listening spree the whole week and I just learned about this yesterday :( It's for the best that he dropped out, given the controversy though. But in such a short amount of time left ? Hopefully, the cast change doesn't impact the production or the show too much.
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11 Aevah
August 15, 2017 at 10:34 PM
To be honest, I feel sorry for the guy. From the information that's been given, the entire case seems to be merely based on 'he said, she said' and the victim apparently didn't even notice who touched her until her friend pointed out that it was Onew, and because he was so drunk, he didn't even know. Right now it's basically their friends and other eye-witnesses that's holding this case together and they all have very different opinions of what happened. His friends stated that it was an accident and the three times Onew touched her they apologized for it while for her side, it's strange because while the victim had first said that the contact could have been unintentional, acknowledged that it was an misunderstanding and dropped the case, she recently gave another statement stating that while she has dropped the case, the sexual harassment did happen. While the eye-witnesses have remained solid in their testimonies, the victim herself seems to be going back and forth despite already having dropped charges. The worst part is Onew's case having been forwarded to the prosecution and getting potentially charged with being a sexual offender. If I had to look at this case objectively, I don't think there's enough evidence to call it any kind of sexual crime other than him just being foolish enough to get wasted and accidentally just touching a lady's leg. I also feel sorry for the girl because this has really just blown up in her face with her identity getting revealed and Onew is at fault for touching her even if I won't go as far as calling it sexual harassment.
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Nancy
August 15, 2017 at 10:58 PM
This is what i feel too. Although we don't exactly know what really happened, the situation was blown out of proportion. Too bad he is a celebrity, he suffered a lot from this. He is at fault definitely for being irresponsible but it was too much to be called a sex offender.
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Mangochic
August 16, 2017 at 12:04 AM
First of all the victim knew she had been sexually harrassed/groped. She just asked for confirmation from her friend because this seemed to be unreal to her at this time. Like if you have been groped before your brain tries to process what has happened and you think you see are seeing things. And he did it more than 3times. She isn't going back and forth with the charges. She as it's she signed an agreement to withdraw the charges so as her name does not get out and her family harrassed. She still steadfastly maintains the harassment/groping happened. And the police think she is credible and forwarded it to the prosecutor.
It's surprising to me people so easily believe SM when they have been found to be lying about how many times he 'touched her' they said two when it is more than that. They are emphasizing that it's her leg been charged when rumors floating around that it may have been a private area. And covering up the fact that Onew has a serious drinking problem that fans have known for years. One of his bandmates even said he saw him pour alcohol in a coffee cup in the morning in a show.
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Aevah
August 17, 2017 at 4:34 AM
I know that, in the comment I just meant she didn't know who had touched her until her friend told her not that she didn't know at all. As for the back-and-forth, no matter what she did drop the charges, there are statements made by her that the touch could be unintentional so no matter what, her going on and saying that that touch is still sexual harassment still isn't good when her first statement was her going 'Oh it's just a misunderstanding'. Her testimony is shaky because of the huge difference in statement either way. (You can only make one testimony and hers had her acknowledging that it was a misunderstanding, it's also noted she didn't know who had touched her at first, but then went back and said she was touched multiple times, lack of consistency across the board)Of course I don't know her rational behind it, so I'm not going to say anymore and also I don't know how much SM is involved, so I'm just taking the articles I have read at face value. I personally sorta hate SM because they treat their artists like crap, but I didn't even mention the company, I just feel that the Onew has just been through a ton of crap with this case. The last part of your comment starting from 'It's surprising to me' all the way to the 'may have been a private area' is just your own opinion and a bit of speculation. I actually agree that SM is trying to cover it up. And I already knew about his drinking problem, but there's no need to bring it when it isn't related to the case. As for the victim, we don't exactly know what happened at the end of the day, I just feel sorry that she has to go through this. But, legally(and this was discussed by an actual lawyer, everything here was mentioned in the discussion) It's still not enough evidence to call it sexual harassment because in a court of law, the touch must be sexual in nature, which means things like kissing, groping, hugging(so unless he has a foot fetish because touching a leg isn't considered groping no matter what your opinion is, there's no intent) The most he should be charged with is like a misdemeanor or a general crime and a changed attitude towards drinking.
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Elianne
August 16, 2017 at 1:21 AM
I think the confusion surrounding the allegations is in huge part because Korean media tends to release quick news reports without proper confirmation from police statements, then later change the story again and again as more details are known. It's a race to drop the story first with dubious sources even when the only details are rumours and hearsay, which leads the public to blame the victims for any confusion over the different accounts of an incident.
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xiao jingyan
August 16, 2017 at 7:17 PM
I see that he is wrong but I don't think the case is sexually motivated or sexual related.
Sexual crime is too much for unintentional grabbing based on the circumstances.
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12 mediamacchiato
August 15, 2017 at 10:54 PM
I've been really looking forward to this drama, but I'd rather they push back the premiere date and take more time to deal with the casting change. Even if they can only preempt it a week, that's better than no extra time at all.
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13 Sushi
August 15, 2017 at 11:15 PM
I'm glad he made the decision to leave the show. If the rating suffers, he will be blamed and honestly I think he's been bashed enough by netzs already.
Even if he is found innocent, he should take some timeout to reflect.
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modestgoddess
August 16, 2017 at 11:40 AM
he already admitted he did it
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Sushi
August 16, 2017 at 5:51 PM
*Innocent of sexual assault/harassment or whatever he is being accused of. I've only seen reports that he admitted to his drunken behavior which resulted in him coming into contact with the girl.
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jin
August 16, 2017 at 6:05 PM
The contact that happen was sexual assault. It doesn't matter if he had mal intent or not.
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Sushi
August 16, 2017 at 7:54 PM
Let's leave that to the prosecution and judge to decide since they will have the full details of what went on. Every other article I've come across have given conflicting statements. My original comment was meant to be impartial.
14 C
August 15, 2017 at 11:47 PM
when did they start filming?
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bqk318
August 16, 2017 at 7:57 AM
early June.
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15 callie
August 16, 2017 at 12:31 AM
It was the right move to make. I can only hope that the show can somehow survive all these casting changes.
It sounds like SM Entertainment was the one to make the final decision of withdrawing him rather than JTBC. I have to say I'm a little disappointed in JTBC for that. They all but eliminated Hwayoung's part for her scandal. The fact that they basically considered letting accusations of sexual assault slide, especially given what kind of show Age of Youth is... doesn't sit right with me.
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callie
August 16, 2017 at 12:35 AM
On another note, they can save time looking for a replacement and just have Ye Eun date tall roommate instead ?
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Sera The Ms Temper
August 16, 2017 at 1:00 AM
Onew being in this drama or not is not really my concern tbh, but I'm disappointed to hear this kind of controversy for a show that I really looking forward to. What more the shooting already started. For me, when you are already agreed to be part of any project, learn to control yourself and behaviour in public. It's at least a respect for your team. Now they need to re-take his parts despite of already busy filming schedule.
Speaking of the replacement, they already found one - Lee Yoo Jin, he was recently part of Produce 101 season 2.
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callie
August 16, 2017 at 1:33 AM
*Sigh* Did they really have to get another idol?
He has some acting experience at least. At this point, I just hope he'll be pleasant for the rest of the cast/crew to work with. They don't need anymore setbacks.
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haniismiling
August 16, 2017 at 9:27 AM
I think he's not count as an Idol
since he was rookie actor before, but he loves to make music hence he joined produce 101
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C
August 16, 2017 at 9:47 AM
He is the son of actor Lee Hyo Jung, hes an actor first then it happens that he likes rap so he join the show. After the show he back being actor.
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rxnism
August 16, 2017 at 2:19 AM
He played Kangwoo in the Innisfree Sweet 20s Beauty Drama, I think he was quite decent there ^^
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pogo
August 16, 2017 at 10:39 AM
I agree - they removed Ryu Hwayoung from the main cast for alleged bad behaviour from five years ago when she wasn't even an actress, but were going to keep a guy accused of sexual assault/harassment on the show, as a love interest at that? Talk about double standards.
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16 faraway
August 16, 2017 at 12:47 AM
I kinda knew it would end this way. Age of Youth is a show revolves around girls, it might be weird to have someone accused of sexual assault to be in it. Hope the production team can find a replacement in time, will they delay the premiere though??
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pogo
August 16, 2017 at 10:41 AM
Frankly, it's weird that the second season seems so obsessed with pairing all the girls off. That is not what Age of Youth was about!
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17 esorual
August 16, 2017 at 1:17 AM
It's honestly so upsetting that so much crap happened with the casting and there's so much drama for a show which hasn't even aired yet. At this point, I think I'm just going to lower my expectations because I don't want to be disappointed. At least the upside is that there won't be negativity surrounding the show once it airs?
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18 slim007
August 16, 2017 at 1:31 AM
I really hope Koreans will separate drama from reality one day but till then I will zip my mouth.
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vivi
August 16, 2017 at 1:52 AM
By doing what?
In some cases, like Hwa Young case, I kind of agree... but Onew situation is very tricky. The first season message -one of them- was related to being responsible in dating.
Onew character and his interaction with Yeeun who was a victim of abuse made it hard to forget the recent case. It is like, "hey see us acting a healing relationship with a man who just recently was so drunk, he made a woman felt uncomfortble by touching her"
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Ek Ladhki Thi is Kim Eun-sooks no 1 fan
August 16, 2017 at 3:35 AM
In Onew's case, there's no separating the character from the actor because his character is supposed to be someone who is innocent and has never dated before. His love interest was supposed to be Ye-eun who already suffered assault and harassment from her ex-boyfriend, Onew playing that role in light of everything is triggering for everybody.
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Thaisfrede
August 16, 2017 at 6:19 AM
I agree partially with your position, we have the case of the actor Lee Byung-heon, what he did was wrong, but it was consensual, If we stop watching some movie because the actor betrayed his wife, or vice versa, we will never see anything again. This is just an example how people need to separate their personal and professional lives.
In this case I find correct, what he did it was crime, he touched a woman without her permission, this is sexual harassment. And for me this is a very serious crime, if we consenting to this type of aggression, we will continue with actors who commited sexual agression that win Oscar, or we will have extremely respected and praised directors continue their lives like nothing happen, while the woman will always have this scar and the women will no longer be respected.
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19 Elianne
August 16, 2017 at 1:40 AM
Tbh I'm glad that he dropped out - I don't think I would've felt comfortable seeing him in any loveline, let alone with someone who was a former abuse victim.
The victim may have dropped the charges at SM's request but she still testified that sexual harassment took place and nothing in SM's statement refutes that there was indeed inappropriate physical contact.
As far as I'm concerned, any arguments on whether it was a 'misunderstanding', or over which body part was groped, or if he was too drunk for any intent, are irrelevant. He's still a grown man who chose to over-imbibe to the point that he loss control and touched a woman in such a way that she felt uncomfortable enough to make a police report.
All I hope is that she's doing better and that he takes this opportunity to seek help for his drinking problem.
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20 Gemini Rat
August 16, 2017 at 1:47 AM
I really liked Onew in Descendants of the Sun. I think he did justice to his role. I hope Onew gets more meaty roles later. Keep up the good work, Onew!
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21 sorrynotsorry
August 16, 2017 at 2:08 AM
I just hope he takes this as a wake up call to get his drinking situation in check.
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22 korfan
August 16, 2017 at 3:01 AM
Certainly an unfortunate situation for everyone involved.
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23 OhMGee
August 16, 2017 at 4:10 AM
I like the idea of Ye-eun's character develops independently. She has the belle epoque girls to help her too so why not focus on that.
I hope the staff won't look for a replacement for the love interest instead just focus on the girls.
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24 songsong
August 16, 2017 at 4:52 AM
Ok can we get an actor instead of an idol to replace him.
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Ron
August 16, 2017 at 6:42 AM
no actually an idol from produce 101 is getting the role, i think he never acted before.
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dramamama
August 16, 2017 at 8:59 AM
The guy who's getting the role is actually a budding actor with some small roles under his belt, as opposed to being a kpop idol. I had followed Produce and the show mentioned that his background is in acting but he's trying out as an idol trainee, likely under the instruction of his agency.
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25 Irochka
August 16, 2017 at 5:17 AM
I wonder who will end up getting cast? Could be a really good chance for a rookie actor to shine! In my dreams, I'd love to see Kang Haneul or Lee Won Geun in this role :D Or, if they really want to cast another idol, maybe Jinyoung?
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26 Lin
August 16, 2017 at 6:10 AM
This is how dramabeans chooses to report this scandal of sexual harassment and assault, wow. It feels downplayed and skewed to paint Onew in an innocent light ("unfortunate event", dude couldn't hold his liquor, was drunk off his are and continuously sexually harassed and assaulted a girl -it's assault when you keep on inappropriately touching someone after they have told you "no" and "stop" more than once. "dropped charges" the whole thing is being sent to the prosecutor's office. victim has already come out to explain how she was coerced by his company to maybe drop charges -i'm still confused on that- but remains steadfast that she was sexually harassed and assaulted by Onew) It seems like ya'll are following SM's media play to protect their artist narrative and I'm honestly disappointed but not even surprised (ya'll sometimes come off as the biggest "oppa didn't mean it").
Good riddance and good bye to him. Too bad after some "reflection" or running off to the army, he will be forgiven and be allowed to return (too many male entertainers have this privilege for me to name them all). I feel for the production but his character was going to be romancing a girl still coming off her own trauma of being victim to an insane abusive predator, nope. The right and only appropriate choice imho was made. They dropped RHJ so fast for scandal but was going to keep on the sexual harasser...drama gods came through on this.
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Irochka
August 16, 2017 at 8:12 AM
Dramabeans is a website that focuses on Korean dramas, not Korean news/scandals. The point of this article is that there will be a casting change and bringing up Onew's scandal was to give background as to why the casting change was happening. As someone who doesn't have much information about the scandal itself, I don't think Dramabeans painted it one way or another (in the sense that I didn't feel swayed to judge guilty vs not guilty based on the information that was provided). I appreciate that Dramabeans refrains from posting opinionated articles about issues like this since it tends to make the comments section a mess.
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dramamama
August 16, 2017 at 9:05 AM
Agree. I was surprised that she chose to word it that way while withholding some very important information. Maybe she's just getting the information much, much later than many.
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xiao jingyan
August 16, 2017 at 7:11 PM
if the highlighted comment is the differences between Hwayoung and Onew,
it more bc in hwayoung scandal, they have not filmed anything and she is the lead of the show but before the show happen.
Onew had filmed some of his parts and it happen near the drama aired.
The circumstances are different and to see that you categorised this as the same also calling him a predator is not fair for both of them.
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Jolly
August 16, 2017 at 8:08 PM
Yeah, it's pretty poor reporting by Javabeans here. She's focusing one side of the story. If you're going to report on the situation, you should at least paint a more accurate picture.
The woman didn't just decide to drop the charges. SM Entertainment basically asked her to, and she complied because she was afraid of her identity being revealed. And police investigated the footage, none of which painted Onew in good light.
Reeks of coercion and power abuse really considering how dirty the entertainment industry generally is. Fangirls are insane, and it wouldn't have went well for her to have her identity revealed. And with the hero worship that tends to go on with celebrities, I'm sure plenty of fangirls want to sweep this under the rug quickly.
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27 bqk318
August 16, 2017 at 7:58 AM
It better with him and this drama. His acting is so so overacting in DotS.
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28 Leslie7622
August 16, 2017 at 8:51 AM
This is really sad. I uses to be a huge Shinee fan particularly onew (not so much now since my interested in kpop has since waned). Although I don't condone his drinking, I do feel bad for the guy. He used to be a really sweet guy during variety shows back when Shinee was still really active. Then I heard rumors of him getting depressed and having drinking problems. I was happy for him when he started getting small acting roles. But I'm afraid that with this latest scandal and getting booted off the show, it's likely that he will get even more depressed. I hope that we don't getting another *gulp* Chester Bennington (RIP).
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29 Pickwick12
August 16, 2017 at 9:09 AM
I read that even though she dropped the charges, Onew is still being prosecuted because there were eyewitnesses, so her signing the SM paperwork didn't stop the case. I assumed he left the show because it's an ongoing case that has been referred to a prosecutor. As far as I have read, it is still very much a thing.
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30 Miky
August 16, 2017 at 9:19 AM
On other note i feel bad for the production team and other actors as they lost some precious material and might have to film it again,time and money wasted...
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31 haniismiling
August 16, 2017 at 9:25 AM
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32 haniismiling
August 16, 2017 at 9:26 AM
Yay for Lee Yoojin as replacement!
Really hope it will be stepping stone for him and wish him did it the best!
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33 Ajusshi
August 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM
What I read was that he was in a group of friends drinking, quite possibly encouraged to go well over his limit, thats what young men and increasingly women do silly but common. He was said to be falling down drunk and clutched at anything to safe himself. His friends apologised to the female, who presumably accepted it the first time, but it happened a second time. His friends should have removed him, so should the management. The female is also milking the situation in the knowledge he is a SHINee member - all the more reason why he should have been properly chaperoned.
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callie
August 16, 2017 at 3:37 PM
He's freaking 27. Chaperoning? Come on.
You're fishing for every excuse to take the blame from him and trying to incriminate the victim instead. He's responsible for his own damn actions. No one else.
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pigsnout
August 16, 2017 at 6:47 PM
So what you're saying is it's the friends fault, it's the woman's fault, but none of it is his fault?
He's freaking 27 years old, 29 in Korean age, at what age are people supposed to take responsibility for their actions? 'Chaperoned', please.
If he was drunk driving, you won't use 'he was drunk' as a defence and blame other cars on the road, why is it acceptable to do this with him unwanted touching a woman? He should face the consequences of his actions.
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34 Heartoppaya
August 16, 2017 at 8:56 PM
Jeez.
These comments make me laugh. Why comment if you don't know the entire story? It's like you're digging your own grave. Having followed the entire story I can say that what happened was an accident. He was with his friend who was celebrating his birthday and he got dead drunk and while trying to not fall over, he grabbed a "pole" which turned out to be this woman. While it was a natural instinct to grab onto something, I don't blame the victim for feeling awkward, I mean I would too, if someone grabbed your leg. But it's not nice to blame people without knowing what really happened.
And gosh, what's with the victim shaming. That's just plain wrong.
Onew wanted to continue with the investigation because he can't remember what happened either. I think that's what genuine sense is.
Stop blaming people and accept his decision. He feels uncomfortable about what happened and he doesn't maybe want to come in front of the media in the heat of the moment.
Let it go. He's already feeling bad.
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35 crystalsins
August 17, 2017 at 2:31 AM
Onew's scandal is so ironic, considering his character in the drama... :/
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36 sanae
August 18, 2017 at 9:58 AM
Onew himself asked to leave the show so he wouldn't be a burden for the production !
Victim shaming is so ugly as well as shaming onews based on media articles, i'm referring ONLY on the official police statements. According to this and the witnesses, did he drink too much ? Yes. Did he fell multiples times and touched her legs as she was dancing on the table ? Yes. Did he did a sexual assault/sexual harassment ? No. Media are really scary how they twist everything !
Ppl shouldn't shame the victim, but neither onew based on MEDIA ARTICLES.
Accusing both way just based on the media is really ugly...
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