Top 10 most virulent cases of Second Lead Syndrome
by DB Staff
javabeans: Second leaaaaaaads! Where would we be without them?
girlfriday: Happier, probably.
javabeans: But also maybe more bored? Because c’mon, a well-placed second lead (and his unrequited love for the heroine) can provide a certain crackle to a juicy romance, even if sometimes that crackle often comes with big booming pain.
girlfriday: I just mean I’d probably be happier, because I often ship the wrong guy and then end up in a puddle of my own misguided tears. But dramas would be nowhere without second leads. Not all dramas need to have love triangles, but so many dramas do, and when they’re great, they can really drive a romance and make us feel for all the parties involved. It just makes sense that in order to have an effective love triangle, you need a really compelling second lead who has a shot at winning.
javabeans: Of course, this whole concept of “winning” is its own can of worms, since many of these effective second lead stories often present him as the perfect man, the one the heroine really deserves, instead of that mean ol’ hero who always makes her cry. It drives home the idea that nobody “deserves” a person’s love over anybody else, not when love isn’t a quid-pro-quo transaction, but damn if the shows don’t know how to dig that knife of injustice into our hearts with that extra twist.
girlfriday: That twist is mean, but clearly it works, because I’m such a sucker for the pining unrequited love.
javabeans: What’s funny about this phenomenon (which we’ve long been calling Second Lead Syndrome, because it is practically diagnosable at this point) is that half the time I’m convinced that I’m immune to its effects, remembering all the fantastic OTP’s I’ve never once betrayed. Then I remember all the doomed supporting lead romances that broke my heart and there I go, cursing the dramaland fates that make second leads so goddamned appealing.
girlfriday: It really only takes one to make you think that there’s suddenly something wrong with the universe, for not letting the second lead get the girl this time. Even if you’ve watched hundreds of dramas and never cared about a second lead once, there will suddenly be one who steals your heart and leads you to cry foul over the main loveline.
javabeans: Second Lead Syndrome is such a fixture in love stories these days that our Top Ten list had to narrow down the criteria, otherwise our shortlist would have been a hundred names long. In keeping with the theme, our choices were limited to the second leads whose love stories brought us the most pain or gave us the most grief.
girlfriday: Yes, the ones where we were cursing writers. And then of course second lead syndrome leads to shipping wars, which is a whole other dimension of pain.
javabeans: Oh my god, shipping wars. What a way to take your private agony, pour a ton of salt into the gaping wounds, and magnify them for the world to pick at. Why, whyyyyyy? Why do we do this to ourselves, and why do we never learn?
girlfriday: I DON’T KNOW. But I think it’s true that we never learn, because every other year when another Answer Me series comes out, I want to hide in a hole until the war is over and call my mommy to come pick me up.
javabeans: I like my second lead romances a little toothless, myself, because I want to feel pity and sympathy for the poor guy but not actually feel torn up inside about shipping the wrong person with the heroine. Because even when you like Mr. Second Lead better, 99.99% of the time, we all know she’ll end up with the hero instead. (And 0.01% of the time, we cry for days and write angsty lists about it.)
girlfriday: Cue list!
1. Answer Me 1994 (2013)
javabeans: Answer Me 1994 inflicted some serious raw wounds in my heart over its second lead arc, pains I’ve been keeping deep in repression ever since the drama ended, and I have this post to thank for dredging up all those terrible, agonizing, glorious feelings for Chilbongie and the love he was never destined to have. Of course, it wasn’t purely my fault for picking the wrong guy—not when the show did everything in its power to lead us astray, giving us actual hope that he wasn’t, in fact, the doomed second fiddle. That fakeout was part of the reason I felt so viscerally hurt when my ship crashed and burned: Answer Me’s writer understood dramaland’s cliches and rhythms so well that she was able to masterfully circumvent expectations (in a way I don’t think any other writer has been able to do regarding romance). Usually we know who’s getting the girl and who’s getting left in the dust, but 1994 faked us out brilliantly by giving the second lead the hero treatment, keeping the OTP in the shadows while building up the sweet, devoted, puppy-doggish Chilbongie as our heroine’s potential future husband. By the time the realization of the OTP’s direction hit, those of us on Team Chilbongie were already in too deep to get out without suffering damage. I could accept and appreciate Oppa ultimately being the husband, but it was the path to that end that did me in. And as an extra-salty kicker, the fanwars that sprung up over the two ships felt particularly vicious and mean-spirited, so invested did everyone feel in their particular team. This is the drama that made me swear off all future Answer Me seasons for good… and based on good ol’ Number 2 below, it’s a decision I’ve never regretted. Never say I don’t learn anything!
2. Answer Me 1988 (2015-16)
girlfriday: Apparently some of us don’t learn, because even after suffering through the agony of rooting for Chilbongie, I found myself back here, thinking that this time I’d play it safe and be on the right team. The obvious team. The one that wouldn’t make me cry. I had a plan and everything! Of all the installments of the Answer Me franchise, this one really set us up for the ultimate fakeout. Honestly, I never thought in a million years that Ryu Joon-yeol wouldn’t get the girl. He was the classic drama hero through and through, as the prickly boy next door who kept his feelings close to the vest while our heroine flailed over her adorable crush on him. I didn’t even spend the drama feeling bad for him like a regular second lead, because it seemed like such a foregone conclusion that he’d be the heroine’s husband in the future that viewers invented a term for it, which translates to “Obviously Future Husband Ryu Joon-yeol.” Instead, I spent the drama having (totally unnecessary) second lead sympathy pangs for quiet Park Bo-gum, because he was just like Chilbongie, and surely doomed to break my heart. Surely! This was a case where I loved both boys, but just fell for the trap of expecting characters to follow the archetypes we’d seen in drama after drama, which of course the writer played up for maximum twistiness. I might even consider it clever, if not for the fact that Ryu Joon-yeol cut my heart out and left it on a restaurant table sometime in the early ‘90s, next to the confession he gave and then took back. On the upside, I no longer feel feelings.
3. Boys Before Flowers (2009)
javabeans: This drama was practically designed around Second Lead Syndrome, and judging from the sea of tears shed by the sinking ship (the better to float it with?), it utilized it mighty effectively. This drama offered a textbook case of how being a “better” man doesn’t entitle anybody to anybody else’s heart, and second lead Ji-hoo was established as pretty much all of the good things that leading man Jun-pyo wasn’t: thoughtful, kind, gentle, calm, mature. The drama went so far as to declare Ji-hoo the heroine’s soulmate—platonically, of course—and she forged a friendship with him immediately; her relationship with him was as easy as her relationship with the hero was perpetually turbulent, as though two kindred souls need no time deciding that they’re simpatico. Even when the main romance was in full swing, it was often Ji-hoo who understood her thoughts and concerns better than the guy she’d chosen, and to underscore his general decency, he often helped smooth the bumps in their relationship even as he was pining for her heart himself. It was enough to make you figure, Well, if she has this perfect sunbae dying to be with her and still picks the volatile, immature, jealous other dude, then I guess it really is love! Sadly for second leads of dramaland, being Mr. Perfect is no longer enough for true love. Tough crowd!
4. Sungkyunkwan Scandal (2010)
HeadsNo2: There’s something tragic and swoony about the second lead who is the heroine’s constant but silent protector, operating behind the scenes while being hopelessly in love with her. Maybe the appeal of the second lead is the doomed nature of it, the fact that they Can Never Be, even though in Sungkyunkwan Scandal, I really, really wanted them to be. I wanted them to be so badly that my bones will be found on their sunken ship years from now.
In many ways, Moon Jae-shin was the typical hero character—dark, handsome, deep, and a bit of a bad boy. He was the rebel who discovered our heroine’s crossdressing secret and went to any lengths to protect her, all without her knowing. Who wouldn’t want a guardian with that soul-stealing gaze? The way he looked at her with all that hopeless devotion broke my heart, especially since she remained mostly unaware of everything he did for her. It wasn’t easy to protect her secret in an academy full of men, but watching him try, whether by stopping others from discovering her bathing or by wriggling his way in between her and the lead while sleeping was half the fun of the show. Okay, that and the fact that he got a mad case of the hiccups whenever he became romantically aware of her. That was always adorable. *hic*
5. Heirs (2013)
girlfriday: Trying to argue Lee Min-ho vs. Kim Woo-bin in Heirs is a little bit like judging the heights of acorns, as they were both punks in a school full of rich entitled punks. I couldn’t tell you that Kim Woo-bin’s brash high school tyrant was a good person, but I can tell you that I found him more compelling than our hero, whose wardrobe often had more personality than he did.
I guess I have a big soft spot for the thorny teenage rebel who lashes out because he’s harboring so much inner pain. This guy totally deserved to go to jail for half the things he did in the drama, but I was surprised that I often cared more about his character development than anyone else. I couldn’t believe that he thought tormenting a girl and bullying her publicly was the best way to get her attention—like pulling a girl’s pigtails, but in a violent, criminal fashion. But then when he started following her around and trying to do nice things for her (and failing miserably, as being nice is a behavior he actually had to learn for the first time), I found myself moved by his tiny steps toward humanity. He seemed so starved for friendship and love, and even though he always went about asking for it in the wrongest way possible, I really wanted him to get his happy ending.
6. You’re Beautiful (2009)
HeadsNo2: The force was so strong with this second lead ship that it almost felt like fanservice when another drama (You’ve Fallen For Me) later cast the two actors as romantic leads, which at least soothed those fans who’d been heartbroken by the lack of a happy ending for Shin-woo and Mi-nyeo. In You’re Beautiful, which also featured a second lead intent on protecting the heroine’s crossdressing secret in silence, Shin-woo stole hearts by just being there for our heroine as she tried to navigate the world of boy bands—a far cry from her previous calling as a nun. His approach toward looking after the naive and adorably childlike heroine was the completely opposite of the hero, who fit the cold-on-the-outside-squishy-on-the-inside mold to a tee. Perhaps this personality divide is a large reason for the fandom divide between the two love interests, since both extremes were available to root for, even if we all know one of those sides was futile. Despite knowing the secret of her true identity, Shin-woo formed a friendship with the heroine and treated her as one of the boys, and always made sure to be available to step in to help her, whether she knew it or not—whether it was providing a shoulder to sleep on, carrying heavy equipment for her, or bearing the fact that she liked his bandmate more than him. Such is the fate of doomed second leads, sigh.
7. Who Are You—School 2015 (2015)
girlfriday: This one still makes me so mad! I’m not often confused about why a heroine chooses the leading man, since there’s usually enough in the drama to back the OTP when all is said and done, but in Who Are You—School 2015, I actually had a hard time understanding her choice. It was a case where I had to chalk it up to something she had seen in Nam Joo-hyuk’s character offscreen, because it wasn’t a thing I felt and could relate to. It didn’t help that second lead Yook Sung-jae had a very natural rapport with her, making all their scenes sparkle with warmth, or that he was so adorable about his puppy crush on her. He was the first person to recognize the heroine for herself and not her twin sister, the one who protected her from being found out as an imposter, and the first person to call her by her real name—something that genuinely moved me, and made me think that he was the only person who saw the real her. In a story all about finding the courage to live as herself, that mattered to me a great deal. When unni came back, it provided us with the perfect solution—two happy endings!—but they sank two ships instead. Why? Why would they do that? Why would anyone do that on purpose? Clearly I’m still not over it. I will never be over it!
8. Chuno (2010)
HeadsNo2: You know that love triangle that still gives you goosebumps, where just thinking of it makes you want to rewatch an entire show all over again? Chuno was that show for me, with its epic scope and equally epic love story at its center: a slave hunter, destined to hunt down the love of his life, who had once been a slave in his household. And while you desperately wanted him to find the love of his life, said love was completely oblivious to his undying devotion. An interesting thing happened as the show went on, when we began to realize that the hero wouldn’t reach her in time—she had, at that point, fallen for another man, a fellow slave on the run who had once been a deeply principled general. It was impossible not to fall for this classically heroic character, the direct antithesis to what antihero Dae-gil had become, even though the conflict of loving both characters at once (and wanting them both to get what they wanted, which was unfortunately mutually exclusive) was torture of the best kind. Her love story with the former general had a depth of feeling in a stoic and understated sort of way, until the pairing felt natural, even under their unnatural circumstances. And when the heroine eventually reunited with her first love, we saw a rare case of the second lead’s virtues winning out, which was a rewarding and bittersweet experience all at once. I’m still so torn!
9. Autumn Fairy Tale (2000)
HeadsNo2: I watched Autumn Fairy Tale retroactively after embarking on a Won Bin marathon, which is relatively easy since we’re going on seven years since he’s been in anything (Just be in a movie, Oppa! Any movie. Please?), so admittedly I saw the show through a slightly different lens than viewers who caught the original run. But both then and now, Won Bin’s character fits the bill of the the quintessential aggressive second lead, playing second fiddle to the perfect and amazing hero and definitely not taking it well.
So maybe he could sometimes veer toward the dangerous, with loads of wrist-grabbing and trapping the heroine against walls, but the shows of aggression and tears were just his way of saying that he loved the heroine, even when he was sometimes kind of maybe demanding that she love him back. I’m realizing now that he doesn’t sound quite so good on paper, but he was oddly captivating in the show, and you wanted him to get the girl because he wanted it so very badly. All my memories of him in Autumn Fairy Tale involve angry tears, low growling, and him trying to buy her love with all his money, but he was such a driving force for the show that I couldn’t help but continue to watch for him. He never stood a chance, and that was part of the angst of it—but like all melodramas of that period, we got to enjoy his paaaaain, which there was never any shortage of. Were we all masochists back then? Are we still, and is that why we fall in love with second leads?
10. My Girl (2005-6)
javabeans: Ah, what a throwback to the early days of Hallyu. My Girl certainly wasn’t the first trendy rom-com to invoke Second Lead Syndrome, but its fanbase’s reaction to its passionate second lead (thanks, Lee Jun-ki!) felt unusually strong for the time, and crested just as the first wave of Hallyu was really taking off and popularizing Second Lead Syndrome as a phenomenon. I confess to never succumbing to the second lead’s pull in this drama (I was loyal to our OTP, through and through), but I couldn’t leave My Girl off this list—not when Team Lee Jun-ki’s vehement and impassioned embrace of his character and doomed ship were so strong that I was amazed and a little bewildered by it. Granted, a large part of that appeal came from the actor more than the character, who was, on paper, familiar stuff: the nice, friendly guy who befriends the heroine when the hero doesn’t appreciate her. Even though I didn’t feel its thrall, I had to acknowledge that it was a powerful force, driven by the fire-versus-ice contrast between him and his hero best friend. Moreover, his pushiness was balanced by his basic good nature, offering us a welcome new development in the trajectory of the aggressive second lead—he felt emotions strongly, but took them out mostly on himself, rather than imposing them on a heroine who didn’t want them. It was a refreshing display of an ever-slightly-more-evolved Second Lead, and I’ll always remember him (and his mad elfin-fairy hair!) fondly.
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Tags: 1 show to rule them all, Answer Me 1988, Answer Me 1994, Autumn Fairy Tale, Boys Before Flowers, Chuno, Dramabeans Top 10, featured, Heirs, My Girl, Sungkyunkwan Scandal, Who Are You–School 2015, You're Beautiful
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51 Midnightwatcher
January 31, 2017 at 4:55 AM
What would a Kdrama be without SLS? My top SLS is on your list, so happy I am not the only one. Answer me series gives me the most heart breaks. My girl (Lee Jun Ki, oh my....). I think u actually should include MDBC.. A classic second lead indeed.
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52 Mylene
January 31, 2017 at 4:55 AM
Moonjaeshin, Chilbong and Jungwan; my favorite 2nd leads. Alttough the dramas were good, didn't finished them when I knew that my otp's will not end up together.
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53 jedijupiter
January 31, 2017 at 5:04 AM
Does it count as SLS where it isn't that I am in love with the second lead, but absolutely hate the first? I HATED Bel Ami because I just hated the lead, Dokgo Mate. He was so... manipulative. I didn't have particularly strong feelings for the second lead, David Choi. But, I did like him, so I wanted him to end up with the female lead, Kim Botong.
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54 mysteriousrhain
January 31, 2017 at 5:07 AM
WON BIN! It's been a decade yet he still doesn't want to act in any drama. Can Park Eun Sook at least convince him to be a lead in her next drama? Autumn in my heart/Endless Love was the first korean drama that I have ever watched. Won Bin and that show got me hooked with Kdramas. Why can't he go back to the small screen?
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nuwoy
January 31, 2017 at 10:42 PM
Yeahh.. Won Bin.Where is he??
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55 kanz
January 31, 2017 at 5:30 AM
My top 5 Second Lead Syndrome:
1. Reply 1994's Chilbongie
I know, I know.. but Chilbongie is just so damn adorable and his puppy crush with Najung is so cute! I refuse to acknowledge the ending! In my mind Reply 1994 ends in ep 10! LOL
2. Heirs' Choi Young Do
Young Do is awful human being, but I can't help rooting for him to become decent person.. and maybe have a shot with Rachel? #TeamYoungDoRachel
3. Flower Boy Next Door's Oh Jin Rak
Even if you like that person first, if you don't even make a move and do something, you'll lose that person..
4. She Was Pretty's Kim Shin Hyuk
He was friendzoned...
5. Boys Before Flowers' Ji Hoo Sunbae
Well at least now I know why Geum Jan Di didn't choose him.. hehehe
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ar
January 31, 2017 at 5:35 PM
Oh Jin Rak. T___T
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Stego
February 1, 2017 at 7:23 AM
Lol......i only realised that playful kiss was a case of bad acting of ji hoo.loved oh hani alot
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56 gadis
January 31, 2017 at 5:34 AM
The very first (and hopefully the last) time I got SLS was in Surpluss Princess. Thinking about it now is still extra painful. I mean, it's Song Jae-rim! And also, the mermaid was head over heel for him and he totally love her back. So why can't they just end up together?? Why?!
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bbstl
January 31, 2017 at 11:07 AM
haha, I had to scroll back to see if you were mary!
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57 Mandelbrotr
January 31, 2017 at 5:36 AM
I have not seen Answer me 1994 yet. So, I read this with a little "scroll down, scroll down" which accelerated to "LA LA LA LA". Now I may need the Grim Reader to help me out with memory cleaning.
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gadis
January 31, 2017 at 5:52 AM
If he is busy, let the mermaid help you. Though her memory cleaning is a bit more faulty at times.
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58 Bongsommie
January 31, 2017 at 5:46 AM
Nice! Can we do one top 10 of tgebest drama OSTs. Wouod love to see thst one :-) :-)
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lunatic4kd
January 31, 2017 at 7:19 AM
I think Goblin would win that one hands-down! There have been plenty of gorgeous SINGLE memorable songs in dramas before but I've never watched a drama with music as glorious all the way through as Goblin. In fact, I found a wonderful piano version of all the songs on Youtube (Smyang Piano) and it stays on repeat all day long, helping me work in the very best way.
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carpetfibers
January 31, 2017 at 4:11 PM
SoulMates would be a winner here, too.
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endo
January 31, 2017 at 5:02 PM
Secret Garden and MLFAS are the winners for me. I still listen to those songs until now.
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missjb
January 31, 2017 at 8:01 PM
my beautiful bride, heartless city, ost and score all of them it's so fitting with the mood. it's basically an art. haha
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bd5
February 2, 2017 at 2:52 AM
"Coffee Prince" and "My Princess" - had really good indie K-pop.
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59 pigsnout
January 31, 2017 at 5:55 AM
My Second Female Lead Syndrome list
1. Kang Sora in Dr Stranger
2. Kim Ji Won in Heirs (didn't want her to be with jerk male lead though, just she was a more interesting character than the heroine and better acted)
3. Jeon Hye Bin in Joseon Gunman
4. Lee Yoo Bi in Gu Family Book
5. IU in Producer (I liked everyone but I liked Cindy the most)
6. Yoo Inna in Goblin (again like KJW, KSG and IU I don't want her to be with the hero and anyway she was his sister! But I liked her character better than Ji Eun Tak)
7. Kim So Eun in Boys Over Flowers
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Sera The Ms Temper
January 31, 2017 at 6:58 AM
Yoo Inna is a great actreas, I hope she will get more leading roles. I like both Sunny and Ji Eun Tak equally, and both actresses were wonderful, but i just wished Sunny had been given a little bit more screentime.
IU was a scene stealer in Producer, although KSH was the one who got most of recognition. Honestly i feel bad the most for CTH and GHJ.
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bd5
February 2, 2017 at 2:52 AM
I wouldn't say "great."
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Elena
January 31, 2017 at 7:04 AM
Woah, I totally love your list :D all of them were great. It would be very difficult to choose one favorite: maybe Lee Yu Bi, who totally stole the show in Gu Family Book, her character was so badass and she acted so well, I wanted her to get a spinoff series, haha!! Kang So Ra was also very good in Dr. Stranger and she had great chemistry with LJS, I shipped them so badly (for the few episodes that I could watch)...
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Gidget
January 31, 2017 at 1:37 PM
That'd be my list too!
As I read the list in the main post I thought that the most disappointing instances of a sunken second lead ship, included a female second lead who was a way more suitable partner for the male lead. In the end the choices weren't only disappointing, they were illogical.
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60 RoseTyler
January 31, 2017 at 5:59 AM
I agree with all of these - except You're Beautiful. I could not STAND Shin Woo. I thought he was passive aggressive and whiny, and way more in love with the idea of being in love than he was with Mi Nyeo. Also, he kept on pursuing her even after she had made it clear she wasn't interested, and after she was dating his friend! Ugh, just no. One of my least favorite characters ever in dramaland. Every other character in that show was awesome (except perhaps the evil mom, but at least she was straightforward).
Clearly I have way too many feelings about this one.
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61 sancheezy
January 31, 2017 at 6:24 AM
I think Second Lead Syndrome is when you thought that the 2nd lead deserve better treatment in the story,
in Reply 1994, chilbong story always related to najung and everything is more about her and him and never him alone,
he is the world of him and it ended without her.
Yes he does have different things but it didn't get elaborate properly while we saw how things work and didn't work between najung and oppa,
I even thought that najung and oppa is not compatible and she just comfortable around him because of the time they've been spending,
there's no room for love but just room for longing and pining into memories
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62 Eman Resu
January 31, 2017 at 6:31 AM
Great list! Loving these Top Ten features. :)
Although no females.
As a resident male, and in the spirit of diversity (wink wink), I'll add my personal female example.
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Oh boy...
Lee Da Hee in 2013's I Can Hear Your Voice.
My ultimate second lead syndrome.
Who knew you could possibly fall in love with Lee Bo Young's second? I didn't know that was even possible.
But Lee Da Hee... gosh that girl is on fire.
Okay, so her character's moral compass is perhaps skewed. So she's a terrible childhood friend. So she's a "witch"...
No matter...
When you grow up to be such an aesthetic angel with those eyes and that doe-eyed glare and maddenly sexy flaring temper. With that figure and that irresistible feminine allure...
Well, let's just say I'll forgive a few character flaws.
(Besides she was redeemed in the end! Tenuous rationalization? Who knows!)
Yes, yes... shallow I know.
I'd tell you I'm ashamed, but that would be a lie. ;)
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Eman Resu
January 31, 2017 at 7:48 AM
I guess I'm thinking of the term Second Lead Syndrome in a really loose sense. As in, second lead you happen to like very much haha. Lee Da Hee's character had no loveline to my recollection.
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carpetfibers
January 31, 2017 at 4:16 PM
Moon Chae Won in Shining Inheritance was another female second lead who I just loved. She's such a great actress, and even when that role occasionally became whiny, she turned out to be such a fully-realized character, I almost wanted to root for her to 'get the guy.'
Which was hard, because Han Hyo Joo was just lovely in that.
Moon Chae Won was also fantastic in The Painter of the Wind, in which she lost 'the guy' only because he was a she!
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63 sorrynotsorry
January 31, 2017 at 6:48 AM
I am one of those viewers who would be happy to never see the same ole second lead scenario ever again. I get why it was done in the past but even some long time writers seem sick of it. Most recently KES was asked about the separate love lines in DOTS and she did it again in Goblin. The writer of Faith and Healer seems to have stepped away from it as well.
Again if something is different, I can appreciate it. I kind of like in Weightlifting they showed the gal, who at first seemed the same ole pyscho ex girlfriend, moving on. In Doctors, they had Kim Rae Won's character basically okay with the second lead giving it a go because he was so confident of the gal's feelings for him. That kind of appealed to me.
But if they can't do anything new, stick to having two lovelines or start making 12 episode romance dramas if you can't fill a 16 episode drama with a cohesive story.
Now if I can just get the producers of Chinese dramas to stop making 40 plus episode romance dramas that really only need 20 episodes. Ugh.
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ar
January 31, 2017 at 5:43 PM
Preach it! KES also did it in Gentleman's Dignity with 4 lovelines. Her writing has a lot of flaws, but in making multiple love lines to root for, she's made a logical choice that I'm surprised other writers aren't making.
Those mainland Chinese dramas. I only made it through a handful in my life..most recent one was last year due to a lot of fast forwarding because the second female lead was unhinged.
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64 kireitenshi
January 31, 2017 at 6:48 AM
Chilbongie! it's been over 2 years but i still haven't moved on. ? i can't bring myself to finish Reply 1994 because of him.
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65 Elgarmummy
January 31, 2017 at 6:51 AM
Beautiful Days (2001) with Lee Byung-hun, Choi Ji-woo, Ryu Si-won. I had a classic case of SLS. I was rooting for Ryu Siwon. He was so boyish then.
I liked him so much that I even joined his fan club and met him when he came to Singapore to meet us.
Too bad the two male leads had some scandals in recent years.
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mjfan
January 31, 2017 at 7:04 AM
Wow you reminded me of that drama
I loved it so much and liked ryu si won too
What is his scandal though?
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Elgarmummy
January 31, 2017 at 2:07 PM
He had a messy divorce. He was accused of using CCTV to monitor his wife's whereabouts and then using violence on her. Lost custody of his child. Then his wife was found guilty of perjury. His career tanked and never recovered after that.
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carpetfibers
January 31, 2017 at 4:18 PM
OMG-- This show was my first! I saw the first episode at a friend's house and then bought VCDs on eBay to watch it at home. Totally hooked me-- Lee Byung-hun's intense stares were soul-destroying.
But then every time Ryu Si-won would sit at his keyboard and sing/play his angsty self away, I would waver.
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klesis
January 31, 2017 at 11:04 PM
Ahhh!! Beautiful days!! I can still remember the song when you mentioned Ryu Si Won singing...
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66 Cha
January 31, 2017 at 6:52 AM
how could you forget Jo In Sung in "What Happened In Bali" He totally stole show? :-)
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67 keiru
January 31, 2017 at 6:55 AM
My most heartbreaking second lead syndrome is Bidam, althought he kinda got the girl in the end but they could never be together T.T
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 11:46 AM
Bidam's entire life was a tragedy
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68 Elena
January 31, 2017 at 6:57 AM
I almost never get SLS, but thinking of Chilbonggie, my heart still hurts for him. Although in this case it is not because I ship them together, I just wanted him for myself, haha!! :D
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69 bluepilotfine
January 31, 2017 at 6:58 AM
When I saw this post, I immediately thought of Chilbong T.T uugh, I'm still and forever will be on that ship. It's the kdrama that actually led (pushed) me to sign up on soompi just to check on live recaps! And join the desperation! Until NEW YEAR'S EVE uurghh! Haahahaaha, it was really depressing.
On another note, I know the DB team is really busy, but hopefully you can do a podcast special for your 10th year anniv ❤️ I reallyyyyy like your podcasts, and I listen to them while working, especially during the busy season (which we currently are in now). It helps me relax despite the stress! Looking forward to hearing your next podcast ☺️
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70 kayla
January 31, 2017 at 6:59 AM
i STILL hurt because of school 2015. worst case of 2nd lead syndrome everrrrr.
& idk what you're talking about but junghwan was first lead in reply 1988, 2nd lead--taek--just got the girl.
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71 JWspazz
January 31, 2017 at 6:59 AM
I've always praying that someday there wil be a drama that will reunite Sungjae and Kim Sohyun together as the leads. it takes about weeks (months to be accurate) to recover from.... "OMO WHYY GONGTAE DOESN'T HIS GIRL, HE DESERVED HER !" aka SLS.
this is so random but my other SLS is Yoo Seungho from I Miss You. I don't know I just feel that he's the one who takes care of the girl till she's success in her career, but of course, for the dramaland first love is important.
ohh and I am somehow thankful for Goblin to show us a brief moment of reincarnate Gongtae (Deokhwa) and Eunbi (young Kim Sun) even though it just a portrait.
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Stego
February 1, 2017 at 7:29 AM
Yoo seung ho ..... I think i had a bad case of sls in i miss u..poor guy.
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72 damadelpuente
January 31, 2017 at 7:02 AM
I haven't seen all of the dramas listed, but from the ones I've seen, I disagree with half of them LOL. I do tend to ship the OTP more often than not, so I guess I don't get second lead syndrome as easily.
To me, Kim Woo Bin's character in Heirs was charismatic, but a big bully that (pretty much like Lee Min Ho's character) stalked the girl and mistreated her because 'he liked her'. Sure, he gets some character development, but at no point did that make me wish the lead girl ended up with him instead (on the other hand, at no point in Heirs did I wish the girl ended up with the other guy either, but that's another subject).
In Boys Before Flowers, Ji Hoo was sweet but the acting was so bland that I felt nothing for him. And something like that happened to me in You're Beautiful with Shin Woo, too, plus that in that series he comes up with that weird 'date at a distance' that just came off really stalkery to me, I just couldn't care for him. I didn't find it romantic at all.
As for stuff not listed, my list would definetely have Yoon Kye Sang in The Greatest Love.
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73 Kokare
January 31, 2017 at 7:03 AM
Greatest Love
Pil Joo Line.
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bbstl
January 31, 2017 at 11:14 AM
*waves in solidarity* that's who I thought of first when I saw this list title. But did he inspire fan wars? I don't recall.
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purpleowl
January 31, 2017 at 11:50 AM
How could I forget?!
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mariazzang
January 31, 2017 at 2:45 PM
Yes how could I forget! Pil-line!!!! Yoon Kye Sang should never be a second lead after that drama. Pil Joo was so sweet to Ae Jung.
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74 LeeJunKi
January 31, 2017 at 7:06 AM
Off to rewatch My Girl
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75 Screamingparsnip
January 31, 2017 at 7:07 AM
I don't know about you guys but how can we forget Choi Si Won from She Was Pretty. I was rooting for him all the way and he left me in a puddle of my own tears everytime he confessed. Another sppecial mention to Jung Won from Jealousy Incarnate!!!! Mud flat fights!!!!
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bbstl
January 31, 2017 at 11:19 AM
*waves some more*
YESSSSSS!!!
And Jung Won brought on some big fan wars for several episodes. I guess he was left off the list because by the end, we had all capitulated to the inevitable. Seriously, I would have picked Jung Won so early on that JJS would never have had a chance (and the show would have ended at 10 episodes LOL).
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76 Scout
January 31, 2017 at 7:21 AM
Kind of surprised She Was Pretty isn't on here, even though I found the Siwon character to be the epitome of annoying, through no fault of Siwon himself. That character and his disregard for the female lead's boundaries got under my skin so much that I would audibly groan when he'd show up in a scene. But I can't deny people had terminal cases of SLS. Anyone else remember the out-there theories that were circulating that speculated Sung Joon was actually dead and the whole second half of the drama was his coma dream or something? I'm probably totally misremembering but it was something really ridiculous like that.
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ar
January 31, 2017 at 5:47 PM
I think some people were speculating Hye Jin was dead. I think it was because of the stills of the ending scene where SungJoon was crossing the street the street with their daughter and no HyeJin in sight, so the assumption was that she was dead.
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77 rk
January 31, 2017 at 7:30 AM
R88 - Jung Hwan. That still stings to this day, DB.
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78 foofoo
January 31, 2017 at 7:41 AM
Oh man, was the SLS real for AM1994. The whole way the drama went about dragging the husband mystery put a bad taste in my mouth. It's why it's my least favorite of the series.
1988, on the other hand, I definitely loved both boys a lot, but in my heart I was totally on team Taek. I thought for sure I had SLS again but wasn't upset about Junghwan being the main lead because I loved him almost as much. I have to say though it's pretty satisfying when you think your ship is sinking and it ends up victorious in the end, haha. Ah it makes me want to re-watch the show again!
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 11:50 AM
I want to rewatch 1988 but the super long episodes make me hesitate
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79 Blazingflame
January 31, 2017 at 7:44 AM
moon jae shin❤. I always wanted yoon shin to end up with jae shin. he was her knight in shining armour, a silent protector. I feel he was her soul mate. I really wanted yoon shik to know it was jae shin who always protected her.
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80 dynasty
January 31, 2017 at 7:47 AM
I love most of the dramas on this list but you didn't include "She was pretty"
I loved Siwon's character a lot, I really wanted him to get the girl but I was also vouching for Seo Joon..??
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81 Beanie Meanie
January 31, 2017 at 7:48 AM
While "Second Leads" is a fair characterization, I prefer the moniker "Sidekicks" to describe the phenomenon. Known best for their "comedy relief".
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bbstl
January 31, 2017 at 11:25 AM
'Sidekicks' is an interesting idea for a list, like Yoon Hyun Min in ... everything ?
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82 jeankaycee
January 31, 2017 at 7:51 AM
Top Second Lead List!
I agree to almost all the second leads on the list especially my fave Chilbongie!
My heart still hurts every time I remember Chilbongie and his heartbreak! And every time I re-watch Reply 1994, I still cry like a baby when I reached to the scene where Chilbongie cried his heart out due to the pain.
And I think we will never learn when it comes to love triangle and second leads.
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83 sweetsour
January 31, 2017 at 7:52 AM
I agree with "Who Are You School 2015" (YSJ's character should've been the male lead), "Heirs" (KWB stole that show!), "Reply 1994 (Chilbong! I still call YYS Chilbong sometimes). As for "You're Beautiful" I agree that I liked the second male lead more sometimes, but not enough to suffer SLS. Oh I also suffered SLS in "Jealousy Incarnate". I think the mark of a good writer is one who can either make the viewers like both male lead and SML equally, or make the male lead stand out (because he is the male lead). I think it is a a sign of bad writing, when a writer can't make his/her own male lead stand out and instead the SML steals the show and the viewer's (our) hearts.
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boomboompow
January 31, 2017 at 9:28 AM
Half of the time, it's not the writer's fault, it's the actor's faults.
Reply? Writer's fault.
Heirs and School 2015? Lee Min Ho and Nam Joo Hyuk are pretty, but way too bland.
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sweetsour
January 31, 2017 at 12:51 PM
I agree with this, I guess the actors themselves do have an influence as well, in addition to the writing.
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 11:52 AM
I agree. I bland boring actor as the lead makes it easier to fall for a charismatic second lead actor or actress.
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84 Izzi
January 31, 2017 at 7:59 AM
I flipped when it was revealed that Jung Hwan was the second lead in the end. Seriously, i'm still so pissed.
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ar
January 31, 2017 at 5:53 PM
He was the lead, but he just didn't get the girl. like the entire Reply franchise, it was a coming of age story and he learned the hard lesson of what happens when you hesitate and the role timing plays in how your life plays out. and accepting responsibility for your actions or lack of action. I'm sad they didn't end with a conclusive happy ending for him.
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thelady
February 3, 2017 at 11:53 AM
he wasn't the lead, there are plenty of episodes that do not revolve around him, sometimes I feel like his fans didn't watch the rest of the show
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85 Nikilann
January 31, 2017 at 8:03 AM
I rarely disagree with one your top list, but this time, I found myself in none of the Second Lead Syndrome quoted. Except for one.
Never forgiving you, School 2015 ! e.v.e.r.
Granted I didn't see the last two answer me, so I might still get it when I watch them ^^. But I had my fair share of second lead syndrom. Right now, Hwarang is killing me !
My list would include :
- Angry Mom. Although, instead of calling it Second Lead Syndrom, it would be more accurate to cal it Ji Soo Syndrom. I never wanted him to end up with our heroin. Just wished she was 30 years younger.
- Cheese in the trap. It might have been bad writing and directing, but seriously, that second lead was awesome !
- Surplus Princess. Sérious Second Lead syndrom there. I wished it had been Song Jae Rim seriously ! But maybe that's the fault of the network who cut short the broadcast of this little breath of fresh and crazy air
- Gaksital. Because second lead syndrom don't always have to be about the guy ! How could he end up with the dull girl when the other one was so awesomely charismatic ?
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mariazzang
January 31, 2017 at 2:46 PM
Ji Soo syndrome. <3
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86 giocare
January 31, 2017 at 8:05 AM
For me the worst case of SLS was in To The Beautiful You. He didn't even know that he was a girl but was ready to tell his parents that he liked a guy. That broke my heart
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87 lazielizard
January 31, 2017 at 8:07 AM
Oh Kim Woo-bin, how I wanted you to get the girl.. and Jang Hyuk in Chuno..I didn't necessarily want him to get the girl because I saw the sweet love the other two had for eachother.. it was just so damn sad..
Who Are You 2015... I'm still bitter. Also don't ever want to let go of this hatred for the ending. My hatred for it gives me life.
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88 erwinia
January 31, 2017 at 8:11 AM
l was still hoping chilbong will get the girl till te last minute. my first second lead crush was Lee Dong Gun in Lovers in Paris.
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89 starswillshine
January 31, 2017 at 8:20 AM
CHILBONGIE!!! When I thought of a perfect SLS, I thought of Chilbong! <3 I watched Reply 1994 after it was ended (in 2016 in fact), knowing perfectly well that the husband was gonna be Trash and I was still chilbong-ed in the end.
Chilbong was just this perfect guy that most people dreamt to have - loyal, sociable, good in sports, nice bod, cute face, sweet voice, affectionate, took on the initiative to confess, did not hesitate to show the love, and actually had a crush on someone for 7 years. On the other hand, Trash was losing out on the specs that Chilbong had. He was hesitant and was slightly more flawed than Chilbong. I understood perfectly well why Najung would pick Trash instead of Chilbong because her love for Trash started way before she knew Chilbong. No matter how perfect Chilbong was, he did not stand a chance. However, R94 teased us with the future scenes that were pointing to Chilbong and did make Chilbong seem like the husband again and again. Who would actually believe that Trash being such a famous doctor did not own a house on his own and have to rent from Chilbong? The scriptwriter fooled us on purpose and I did not like that. A mystery should leave traces for the audience to solve on their own, instead of leaving clues that were misleading and then gave an unconvincing explanation.
I wasn't Jungpal-ed in R88 because the clues were obvious enough in the future scenes that Taek was the husband. The husband was a smoker clue gave the answer away and that was in the early part of the drama. I do agree that Kim Joo Hyuk, the actor acting as the adult version of Taek, did portray his character at the very beginning of the drama in a similar manner to Jung Hwan. It was revealed that he did not know who is the husband and was acting based on instincts alone. Hence, I could not blame him for that. The message that the scriptwriter is trying to drive across is that one should always take the opportunity to pursue his/her love. Jung Hwan was given so many opportunities to confess but he did not do so. Taek gave him an opportunity (5 years!) to confess and Jung Hwan did not do it. In the end, Jung Hwan lost Deok Sun because of his indecisiveness. Jung Hwan is a typical main male lead and similar to Trash in his tsundere manner. Trash managed to get the girl while Jung Hwan failed to because Trash knew Najung way longer than Chilbong while Jung Hwan and Taek knew Deok Sun since they were young so they were competing fairly. If only Jung Hwan took the initiative and confess in the early part of the drama, I believed Taek would not stand a chance.
I rewatched R97 over my lunar new year break and I realised a pattern among the husbands. The second lead of the drama will be the husband for the next drama. Yoon Jae's brother (Tae Woong) is similar to Trash as Na Jung called Trash 'Oppa' and both of them were smart. The second lead of R94, Chilbong is similar to Taek in R88 as both of them were famous and not tsudere.
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nana
January 31, 2017 at 1:45 PM
Reply 1997 is ti me or people are deliberately ignoring that the actual love triangle was Kang Joon-Hee (the gay best friend) -Yoon Yoon-Je (the idiot husband) -Sung Shi-Won (the overrated lead lady).
Joon-Hee was in love in Yoon-Je who was completely oblivious and was happy being a punching bag for Shi-Won, as much as i saw Shi-Won didn`t love Yoon-Je at all, i suppose she accepted to marry him because he was her best option and was dumb enough to put up with her violence and stupidity, I certainly could not I wanted to to beat the crap out of her more than once. Seriously I was happy that Joon-Hee got a boyfriend in the end that I hope loved him like he deserved it and left his unrequired love in the past, cause it was love not a crush. But in the series I rooted for Joon-Hee and Yoon-Je and couldn`t care less for the main girl character.
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90 megan
January 31, 2017 at 8:22 AM
I agree with this list, one SL is missing though. Jisoo from Sassy Go Go his character was better than Lee Won Geun’s and I rooted for him..
Funny how obvious it was in R94 and SGG who the female lead would end up with but I still fell to the trap
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91 Afii
January 31, 2017 at 8:23 AM
Wooaah Won Bin and Lee jun Ki looks so cute back then with their chubby cheeks. And what is this DB team? You really triggered many broken hearts out there.
I remember watching Boys Before Flower in junior high with my cousin and she was so over gaga that Kim Hyun Joong did not end up with Goo Hye Soon. I do not like this pattern honestly. Bad and impolite guys with the female heroine. *sigh*.
Up until now i'm on the ship that refuse Jung Hwan is the second male lead. I just can't... I even did not dare to watch the last 4 episodes of R88. It hurts so much you know? Much more hurt than being stabbed by Moon Lovers' PD false promise. I got a feeling that Taek is the husband since i know the husband is smoking and Taek is smoking too. But then they lead us to think the husband is Jung Hwan. And that... that... Heart fluttering moment... What is that for *hikss*
Anyway i propose my unpopular opinion. I think i fall for second lead syndrom for Hae Young, since he and Soo Hyun share a damn good chemistry (eh?). But true love should win right? Me love Jae Han too. But well... not the right drama for much romance and i love that. It makes me want more and more.
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92 Arcturus
January 31, 2017 at 8:37 AM
Hi beanies!
I have an interesting take on second leads. How do we define second leads? Ones who don't get the girl? So if Chilbongie got the girl - would he become the lead? If Park Bo-Gum didn't get the girl, is he the second lead?
Hehe - An alternate universe may say otherwise!
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93 Lord Cobol
January 31, 2017 at 8:43 AM
I guess I'm immune to SLS -- comes with being a guy.
My thought process on many of those shows was more like:
Wow, she's pretty.....give her more screen time.... and keep What'sHisName and ThatNobleIdiot out of the way.
Re School 2015: Eun-bi made the smart choice. Tae-kwang was a basket case and was too damaged to ever recover. However adorable he was as a kid, as a 40-something was going to be unemployed and obsessively playing computer games all day.
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Umari
January 31, 2017 at 9:51 AM
Finally someone who thinks like me, guess that being guys make us less sentimental and more racional about the characters romantic choices.
For a girl who attempeted suicide like Eun-bi, being in a relationship with someone as problematic and immature as Tae-kwang would be a step back in her life, while Han-yan was the nicest person in the show and really care for her.
Sorry for the bad english.
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sorrynotsorry
January 31, 2017 at 10:09 AM
Nah, I'm a gal, and I've never had SLS...not once.
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Kim
January 31, 2017 at 11:14 AM
I'm with you about School 2015. I never get why people are so upset with Eunbi choosing Han Yian over Taekwang. Let the girl be with who she likes! Why are people pushing her to like someone "they" think is better for her? Which he isn't, he was as problematic as she was if not worst. It's her life let her choose! No respect to her whatsoever! She never once in the drama show any sign of interest towards Taekwang but yet people still hate on her for picking the person she likes over someone she looks at as a friend only.
And I'm a girl.
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94 lenrasoon
January 31, 2017 at 8:48 AM
I'm too bitter about R94 and R88 to the point i don't think i can watch another Reply series again.
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95 Pam
January 31, 2017 at 8:59 AM
For the entire my drama watching history, there were only two times i got the sls syndrome : autumn love story and school 2015.
Usually i get right on which one who will get the girl and manage my ship accordingly. In autumn love story,i fully aware on the sinking ship but still done it anyway because the lead is so blahblah compared to Oppa!!
School 2015- inwas so believe that YSJ would get the girl because WHO IN THE RIGHT MIND WOULD CHOOSE YI AHN?!! (Yes i'm still bitter)
On reply series, i always got it right he33 lucky me!! Reply 88 was my favorite because i was already believe i'm in TaekTanic the sinking ship, but alas!! It was everything lovely yes!!
Reply 88- taek the turtle who win in the end and JH scene in the car in the rain is deeply engrained in my heart. Whenever i felt scared to go after what i want i always thinking: i dont want to be like JH, crying in the rain thingking about all passed opportunities.
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96 matcha and the beer
January 31, 2017 at 9:00 AM
Can't they make drama such Queen of Reversal where we get our second male lead syndrome goals?
Among them, school 2015 gave me headaches the most that i want to erase it from my memory.
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97 isabel
January 31, 2017 at 9:17 AM
count me in. I'm also one of those who didnt finish Reply 1988 last two episodes as I couldn't accept JH wasn't the husband. How can you set those u and still didn't make him the husband !
Won bin, please do something, a movie or sth !
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98 leila
January 31, 2017 at 9:20 AM
UGHS for me it was definitely reply 1994, youre beautiful and heirs. glad those 3 make it on to the list
but i definitely think the force was the strongest in youre beautiful :(
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99 leila
January 31, 2017 at 9:20 AM
OMG AND SHE WAS PRETTY HOW CAN I FORGET THAT?!
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100 kapp70
January 31, 2017 at 9:28 AM
I can honestly say l have never had SLS. I've liked second leads but never to the point where l wish he was the lead or root for him to get the lead lady. Most of the time the second lead is perfect sometimes a little too perfect and he doesn't need any character growth. It's usually the lead who can start off on a bad note but as episodes progress he becomes a better person. Out of all the dramas I have watched l have really never seen a true triangle where the woman is actually torn between both lead and second lead. If the lead female only wants the second lead male as a friend and states this why would I root for them?
There has also been times where I thought the woman would be better off by herself. Nothing wrong with being alone but dramas can't end like that.
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boomboompow
January 31, 2017 at 9:34 AM
You should try Jealousy Incarnate ?
Female lead is so confused on who to choose that she decided to (sorta) date both, then break up with both, then date both again.
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