The Lonely Shining Goblin: Episode 10
by gummimochi
Learning about the past makes way for how our characters approach the future, as more answers come tumbling out before the year’s end. There’s a whole lot to unearth today for both mortals and immortals alike that each minute feels packed with information. Everyone could use a fresh start in the new year, but with the past threatening to catch up to the present, who knows what the heavens have in store for them.
EPISODE 10 RECAP
When Sunny grabs Reaper’s hand, the touch triggers his ability to see the past, played in reverse: the young queen dying, her observing the king’s archery practice, a hand sliding the jade ring on her finger, the young king smiling at his future queen.
Noticing his eyes well up with tears, Sunny asks what’s wrong, worried that his face has turned even paler than usual.
Inside, Shin looks on until a slightly annoyed Eun-tak slams down her tray to get his attention. She sighs when he asks what sort of person Sunny is, believing that the next question will be the same as Reaper’s about how he can impress her. She pouts and points out that Sunny is very pretty, and Shin returns: “I’m… not looking for someone pretty.” She says she’s heard him say that before too.
We cut back to the conversation outside, where Sunny struggles to figure out what’s going on. She says it couldn’t have been the first time he’s held a girl’s hand, and then another conclusion dawns on her: He used a fake name, got a number out of seemingly nowhere, and froze when she grabbed his hand—could he be married?
“No,” Reaper readily answers. Pointing out his all-black attire and pale complexion, she asks if he’s an NIS agent, but Reaper denies that too. “Are you… a grim reaper then?” she guesses.
Reaper says nothing, and Sunny says it was only a joke and hurries back inside. Poor Reaper is left to wonder, “And who are you, Sunny-sshi?”
Sunny grabs a beer and calls Shin out for continuing to stare at her. He explains that she shares the same name with someone he once knew, and asks which hanja she uses for “Sun.” She replies that she writes her name, Sunny, in English, and confirms that they have met before—a few days ago back at her shop’s former location.
Shin asks why she keeps calling him “oraboni” (which is news to Reaper’s ears) and she simply answers that it’s better than “hey” or “you.” Shin then asks what kind of relationship she has with Reaper and if she even knows what he is. Cue simultaneous warning looks from Reaper and Eun-tak.
Sunny’s literal answer that they exchanged rings prompts Eun-tak to ask if that ring was an intention of marriage. Now that they’re on the subject, Reaper asks her to return it to him tomorrow afternoon at a cafe.
Later that night, Reaper tries to make sense of his recent revelations via formal proofs: Sunny’s past life and the woman in the scroll share the same face, and the woman in the scroll is Shin’s sister. Could Sunny be the reincarnation of Kim Sun?
But Reaper tells himself it’s too early to tell and starts over: He cried upon seeing the portrait of Kim Sun, and also cried the moment he met Sunny. Why did he cry? What could his overwhelming emotional response mean? He wonders aloud, “Could there be a correlation to their past and my erased memories?” He doesn’t have a definitive answer for that either.
In the kitchen, Eun-tak picks a bone with Shin, saying that despite Shin’s bravado about paying for everything, Reaper ajusshi ended up picking up the dinner tab. She says all men are the same, immortal and mortal alike, asking if it was Shin’s plan all along to have her work at Sunny’s chicken shop because he thought Sunny was pretty.
Shin clarifies that all he did was set some parameters for her job search and give her the confidence that she’d find a job, which led her to landing a job. He bristles when she calls bullshit on that argument and she says that he has two more wishes to take care of then: a part-time job and a boyfriend.
Irritated, he asks if he has to break some legs—maybe what’s his face, Tae-hee or something—to prove that he’s her boyfriend. He walks off, frustrated, and Eun-tak wonders why he’s getting upset, only to shrink when he doubles back in a huff. Heh.
Shin takes a deep breath, then pats her on the shoulder before stroking her hair, saying that he feels bad because he finally knows how hard she’s been working at her job. He takes her face in his hands and bids her goodnight, which makes her smile. Aw.
Shin looks at his sister’s portrait in his room, telling her that he prayed that she would be doing well. The portrait’s face fades into a shot of Sunny, who meets with Reaper at the cafe as promised.
Reaper explains that he wants to borrow the ring to do some investigating, but he’s also curious about why Sunny chose this particular ring. “Because it felt like mine,” she answers. His ears perk up when she affirms that she did feel something when she put it on—that she was meant to meet him.
She had no idea that this man who cried when they first met would try to take back the ring he gave her. She complies, though, placing the ring on the table when prompted. She warns that he’d better disclose his reasons for borrowing the ring when he returns it, then takes her leave to attend to her shop.
Reaper is completely out of it back at home, as Shin watches him absentmindedly shaking excessive amounts of pepper flakes on his salad. Shin inquires as to why Reaper took back the ring, asking if he saw something in Sunny’s past while holding her hand that suggested an acrimonious relationship.
Shin chuckles when he’s told that that’s confidential, questioning why a rule-adhering grim reaper would hide his true identity to date a human. Reaper points out that Shin’s in the same boat, to which Shin retorts that his love is destined.
He divulges that his sister’s name was also Kim Sun, but since he can only see a human’s future, he wouldn’t be able to identify her if she were reincarnated with a different face. So Reaper asks what Shin would do if he came face-to-face with his reincarnated sister, adding that she wouldn’t remember anything from her past life.
Like any devoted big brother, Shin somberly replies that he’d ask if she’s living peacefully, in good health, and being loved. “She was pretty, our ugly duckling,” he comments.
Neither of them notices Eun-tak entering the house, as Reaper asks Shin to tell him about the days back when he was human. Shin tells him that he was a general in Goryeo, but he didn’t die on the battlefield. “I died by the sword given to me by the sovereign I swore to protect.”
Shin doesn’t know where to begin his story since he’s never told it before, but he starts in the beginning: a child was born at a time when his father had already passed. His mother had gone mad and later died of illness, and so his elder brother rose to the throne. The child had only his instructor, eunuch PARK JOONG-HEON, who taught him and raised him.
But a string of peculiar deaths took place soon after the eunuch’s arrival, particularly anyone else in line for the throne as well as the child’s older brother, the king. Although the cause of death was initially believed to be illness, the boy would later find out that they were all poisoned.
We see that the ailing king had ordered Shin to protect the prince, WANG YEO, with this dying wish: that when Yeo takes the throne, he would later marry Shin’s sister Kim Sun. He’d asked Shin to make sure Yeo grew up to be a wise, upright man and guard him against death.
Reaper wonders why Eunuch Park would go to such lengths to kill multiple people to ensure the child became king. A flashback shows us that during Yeo’s coronation ceremony, the eunuch swore to himself that if he could not become king himself, he would use this child as a proxy to rule over the kingdom.
Thus when it came time for Wang Yeo to marry Shin’s sister ten years later, Eunuch Park disapproved of the union, though the minister (who’d been present for the late king’s final request) spoke highly of Shin and his family. In voiceover, Shin tells us that this dying wish threw a wrench in the eunuch’s plans.
So young Yeo had snuck out to see Sun, who was in the middle of practicing her posture. They exchanged smiles, but then Sun’s next step sent the bowls on her shoulders crashing to the ground. That’s… not foreboding or anything.
She felt sheepish about the mistake, but Yeo smiled and kept watching. Per his orders, Shin had been present to protect the young king.
And then as Sun went to the palace to be married on a snowy day, she extended a hand out of her palanquin to touch the snow and was surprised to see Shin walking right next to her as a member of her escort.
Pouting, she said she hadn’t seen him all morning and thought she’d be wed today without being able to see her oraboni. Shin joked that he didn’t know why he came to see her ugly face either. When she asked what the king looked like, Shin chided her for asking about the king’s appearance rather than his character, then told her not to worry because he was handsome.
She asked him how she looked today on her wedding day then, and Shin took a good look before answering, “You look ugly.” She pouted that the king wouldn’t find her pretty either and she’d just have to come home, but Shin told her that the king had already seen her.
Realizing that the young, bright-looking face she’d smiled at was the king in disguise, she asked excitedly if the king had said anything about her. She didn’t believe it when Shin told her that the king thought she was ugly, and added, “You must come see your ugly sister often.” But Shin said that as the sister of a warrior, Sun must consider no news as good news.
Smiling, she promised him that he’d have nothing to worry about because she’d live a happy married life. Shin didn’t look back at her, as tears pooled in his eyes.
Some time after being married, Sun ran through the palace upon hearing that Yeo asked to see her. She nearly ran right into him too, and as she backed away in nervousness, she slipped and Yeo caught her as cherry blossoms fell around them.
Sun stayed trapped in her reverie until Yeo broke it with a light-hearted “you’re heavy.” He asked why she was in such a hurry, and she explained she was running to see him. “I was going to see you,” he answered. Aw. Sun: “Would it not be better if we were both going to see one another?” Awww.
But the eunuch continued to feed Yeo poisonous information—this time about an official speaking ill of the king holding onto his queen, who hailed from a lowly family. Eunuch Park believed that this official should be made an example of by death—words that shook up the young king.
Following the official’s death, Sun spoke with Eunuch Park and warned him against covering the king’s eyes and ears from the truth. She believed it was wrong to kill the official, but the eunuch countered: Was it he who had covered His Majesty eyes, or did the king choose to overlook the matter himself?
Sun yelled at him, but the eunuch yelled back at her in disrespect. Dropping all formalities, Eunuch Park growled that he was the one who raised Yeo and ensured his seat on the throne.
She, however, was nothing more than the daughter of a warrior, and if she were to warn anyone, he says, it should’ve been her brother—Shin had been sent off to a war meant to be his grave, yet they only hear of his victories.
“They say there are two kings in one country,” Eunuch Park continued, his body shaking with rage. “They say there are two suns in one sky. If this is not treason, what is?”
We then cut to a familiar scene: Yeo bestowed a sword upon Shin and ordered him to leave and never return. Yeo dismissed Shin’s pleas to stay and protect his sister and the people—the king warned that the next time he would hear from Shin would be word of his death.
Later, Sun appealed to the king to call Shin back to stay by their side, and more importantly, dismiss Eunuch Park from the palace. But Yeo would hear none of it, asking if Shin had tasked his sister with trying to save their lowly family. “It is the king who protects the people. How could the people protect the king?” he’d barked. “Do you even know what you are asking of me?”
Shin is an acclaimed military general whom the people regard as a god, Yeo had continued. He disobeyed royal decree by returning alive, again and again. Yeo roared, “How am I to know if he will use that blade to protect me or kill me?!”
No one but the king could be regarded as a god to the people of Goryeo, Yeo had stressed, which is why he declared Shin a traitor. Sun was left shell-shocked, and that’s when Eunuch Park appealed to the king to punish Shin for his crimes by taking his life. When Sun looked to Yeo, his eyes shook and he avoided her gaze.
Which brings us back to the beginning of Episode 1, as Shin entered through the palace gates and marched up the steps toward the king, and an arrow pierced Sun’s body. Shin says in voiceover: “That… was the last time I saw my sister.”
“She was the sister of a warrior, and a dignified queen. The path to the king was too far, and I did not reach him in the end,” he finishes. In the present, Shin explains that he had no choice but to keep walking even though he knew that he’d never reach the king: “Because that place was my last battlefield, and I would have to die there.”
Shin says he defied royal decree by returning because he had to keep his promise to the late king to protect Yeo, and he had to save the innocent. He’d overlooked the jealousy and fear from the young king—a fool whom his sister protected at the cost of her life.
Shin notes that the food has gone cold while he told this long story, but Reaper has one more thing he’s curious about, and shows him the jade ring. And Shin breaks the bleakness of his tale by asking, “You didn’t steal that to give to me, did you? I don’t wish for us to have that kind of relationship.” Pffft.
Reaper tells him to focus, to which Shin asks if the Reaper thinks that he’s his reincarnated sister. Lol, what. “That’s why you asked about my past, right? Put it on, let’s see what happens.” He presses the joke by addressing the Reaper by his sister’s name, asking if she’s being loved. Ha.
Eun-tak emerges from behind the wall and apologizes for interrupting this bromantic moment. Shin leaves with her, and when Reaper sighs in relief that he’ll get some alone time, Shin adds, “Sun liked spending time alone too.” Reaper: “Get out.”
Once they’re outside, Eun-tak explains that her ghost friend Jung-hyun (her library friend who died in a car accident) asked her to come visit her with flowers. She then changes the subject to him, saying that flowers, any kind really, look good on him. “You’re totally my type,” she continues. “Anytime. You have a great personality. Most certainly.”
Shin is perplexed by the sudden shower of compliments and asks if he did something wrong. He didn’t and neither did she, and Eun-tak says these are words of consolation and encouragement. He asks how he’s her type specifically, and she replies, “You’re strange and beautiful.” He beams.
Eun-tak pays her respects to her ghost friend, but then something catches her eye: a photo of Jung-hyun and her mother in their school uniforms. She runs to Shin and has him open a portal to the library, where Jung-hyun is waiting.
She speaks with Jung-hyun in jondae, asking if she knows her mother. “Why else would I have been by your side?” Jung-hyun responds. She and her mother were close friends who promised each other in high school to buy gifts for each other’s future children.
Although Jung-hyun wasn’t able to keep her promise, she does have something for Eun-tak and tells her to open a locker.
Inside is a pile of bankbooks, the same ones Eun-tak’s aunt accused her of hiding away. Jung-hyun says the one on top is most recent, and Eun-tak should use that for her college tuition. “Is this why you couldn’t leave this world?” Eun-tak asks, her voice breaking. “Because of me?”
Jung-hyun admits that she enjoyed watching Eun-tak grow up, and now it’s time for her to rejoin Eun-tak’s mother and tell her all about how kind and smart her beautiful daughter is. Eun-tak ekes out a tearful word of thanks and hopes that Jung-hyun and her mother will be eternal friends. They say goodbye, and Jung-hyun fades away.
Shin and Eun-tak return to the seashore, where she tells her mother that Jung-hyun was a good friend to them both. She says she loved everything her mother gave her, from the red scarf to Jung-hyun, and when Shin pats her comfortingly on the shoulder, she smiles, “You too. Thank you for opening the door.”
She laughs when he calls himself a generous being, and remarks that it hasn’t rained lately. Shin says he’s keeping himself in check in case NASA takes him away, which makes her laugh again.
Shin sits with Grandpa’s secretary, who notes how Shin still speaks to him in banmal. Shin asks him to take care of getting Eun-tak’s aunt to forfeit her deceased sister’s insurance money, since Eun-tak’s twentieth birthday isn’t until September. He’s also thankful that Secretary Kim grew up to be a fine man, to which Secretary Kim says he’s grateful for everything.
Secretary Kim finds Aunt in prison, where she admits that she couldn’t get her hands on Eun-tak’s mother’s insurance payout because she’d paid off her personal debts—in order to become Eun-tak’s legal guardian—with a private loan.
So she created an account in Eun-tak’s name but those damned bankbooks kept disappearing. Secretary Kim yawns, then hits the “Save” button on his phone, where he’s just recorded Aunt’s incriminating confession. He explains that Aunt has two options: 1) Return everything to Eun-tak and be released from prison; or 2) File a custody suit that will only drag on.
Her threat of knowing some people in dark places doesn’t work with him, since the secretary knows the underground better, as a former loan shark.
Grandpa is pleased to hear that Secretary Kim has taken care of Shin’s request as well as getting Deok-hwa onboard to learn the company ropes from the bottom up.
We find Reaper at the dry cleaners to pick up his hat, telling the owner that it’s “made in heaven.” Ha, he actually gets it dry-cleaned? Reaper gets lost in his own thoughts thinking about Sun, turning the store and his phone ice-cold. He unfreezes it when Sunny calls, responding with a stilted “Hello.”
She learns that Reaper is still working on the ring and asks what he was doing. He honestly answers, “Wondering if I should hold your hand again or not.” Smiling, she suggests that they meet today.
Reaper changes his clothes at home, where Shin recognizes the attire from his premonition where Sunny told Reaper not to call her anymore. He asks “Is it today? Can you not wear that?” That only makes Reaper question his outfit, but Shin says he was wondering if his advice would change Reaper’s day a little, and suggests that he wear comfortable shoes for the long walk home. Shin calls out, “You do look weird.”
Sunny gets ready for her New Year’s Eve date, while Reaper hilariously walks down the street avoiding contact with passersby. He apologizes for running late and asks to hold her hand before they do anything, explaining that he’s too curious to wait.
She doesn’t give in that easily, though she admits that she’d like to hold his hand and hug him too. But she wants to know him first, and he has yet to explain who he is and how he knows her real name. She says she’ll let him off the hook for the remaining two hours of this year since he’s handsome.
She notices his darkened expression and suggests that they end things now. She says she liked his attempts at chivalry and being a math nerd, but she can’t do this anymore. She says that he dumped her, and she speaks the words from Shin’s premonition: “Don’t call me anymore,” as she walks off.
At 11:30 P.M. on New Year’s Eve, Shin waits impatiently in his coat and scarf in the living room, then heads upstairs and hovers outside Eun-tak’s door. He gives up, and just before midnight, Eun-tak rushes out of her room and knocks on his door, only to find him looking gloomy on his bed.
Eun-tak tells him to listen closely as the clocks chime midnight, and she cheers that the new year means she’s now an adult. Shin pouts when he hears that she’s heading out because she has plans, but she says they’re plans with him, and he immediately jumps out of bed. Ha. He’s willing to do whatever she’d like, and she excitedly requests, “Alcohol! Pojangmacha! Soju!”
So they head out to a pojangmacha, where Eun-tak downs her first soju shot in one gulp and remarks how bitter it is. Shin finds that adorable (and so do I) and he pours her another shot, which she also empties in one go.
Their drinks are interrupted by the cyclist with the broken hand who nearly caused the bus crash, who’s soon joined by his gang. But Shin isn’t fazed and asks the cyclist what he sees when he looks at him. Eun-tak shakes her head, but Shin insists that it’s for her entertainment, declares that they’ll take the fight outside… and disappears. Eun-tak assures the worried ajumma that her boyfriend will be just fine.
Shin faces the group outside with nothing but a mop. He warns them that he used to be a warrior, and he won’t be going easy on them today. When the group comes at him with pipes and sticks, Shin breaks off the head of the mop and takes a fighting stance.
He knocks away his attackers one by one, twirls away from one swing, and then spins the mop handle to strike down the others. A tipsy Eun-tak looks on, impressed, and downs another shot.
We rejoin the fight as Shin strikes one guy on his head, then levels another off of his feet. For his finishing move, he sticks the mop handle up the cyclist’s butt… and drops the handle in disgust. Adding insult to injury, the cyclist’s buddies accidentally ram his family jewels into a tree.
Shin heads back inside to join Eun-tak, and chuckles at her drunken ramblings about the romanticism of her first time drinking. She says there’s one thing left: “First kiss.”
She says their first kiss was no more than a peck, then tells him not to move. Horrified, Shin tries shuffling away and holds his breath as Eun-tak comes around with her lips puckered. Just then, time stands still, and Shin exhales.
He’s taken aback when he discovers that Eun-tak isn’t frozen in time, and she reminds him that his powers don’t work on her, the goblin’s bride. She says he won’t be able to avoid it, but Shin says he’s not going to, since avoiding it once was hard enough. And he swoops in to kiss her. She returns the favor with a soft kiss and confesses that that was perfect.
And back at home, poor Reaper sits in his room wondering if he did the dumping or if he was dumped.
Eun-tak wakes early the following morning to prepare traditional food for the New Year. She adds that she bought good beef using the money earned from the ski resort, and takes note of Reaper’s vegetarian preferences while sneaking glances at Shin.
She wonders at how much time has flown from when Reaper and Shin heroically came to save her from the loan sharks and looked super cool. She suddenly realizes that she’s missing leeks for the soup, so the ajusshis agree to go grocery shopping together.
Cut to: a glory shot of Reaper and Shin walking through a tunnel as they return with leeks… which is then interrupted by a motorcyclist yelling at them to get out of the way. LOL. Shin says the man must be wishing them new year blessings and Reaper agrees that yes, they won’t harm that man today.
Reaper: “Happy New Year.” Shin: “Because we’re cool!” Oh, you two.
At the table, Eun-tak wishes them a happy new year, which Shin returns in kind. But Reaper glumly says he and Sunny are no longer together. Once she’s filled in, Eun-tak decodes the meaning behind Sunny’s words, saying that Sunny wants Reaper to call her. Shin files that information away.
She admits that explaining his nature is a harder question to tackle, and suggests that Reaper tell Sunny that he’s an angel instead of a grim reaper. Shin tells him to keep his chin up and speaks as his sunbae in longevity, that “being 300” is a tough period.
Suddenly Reaper states that if he is to get answers, he must become closer to the person who has them. And then he grabs Shin’s hand, much to his alarm. As Shin freaks out, Reaper says dryly, “As expected, I see nothing from you. Just feels warm.”
Reaper takes his leave as Shin screams after him: “What are you going to do about my hand?! It’s disgusting. I have to cut it off.” But then Eun-tak takes Shin’s hand and blows on the back to “sanitize” it.
Later, Shin drags Reaper outside to not-so-casually get roasted sweet potatoes at the nearby stand where Eun-tak and Sunny just happen to be. Reaper sees right through the act, but he says nothing when he comes face-to-face with Sunny.
Sunny explains they agreed not to acknowledge one another, and at Eun-tak’s prompts, Shin remarks that Sunny’s yellow coat and Reaper’s white coat resembles a fried egg. Goblin, say what?
He amends his statement by saying that Sunny looks like the head of a bean sprout and Reaper its stalk, but that comment is even more terrible than the last one. Eun-tak apologizes for Shin’s lack of tact when they get home, and Reaper softly says he at least got to see Sunny. Aww.
Now that they’re alone, Eun-tak scolds Shin for not carrying any money because her boss had to pay for the snack, which she won’t let him have. Reaper emerges from his room dressed in his grim reaper clothes and looks back to explain his choice of white earlier: “My concept today… was an angel.”
Shin swipes the sweet potatoes to eat in his room, where he thinks back to when he saw a 29-year-old Eun-tak meeting a mysterious CEO. This time, though, he remembers that the necklace came from a vendor in Quebec back when Eun-tak traveled there with him the first time.
He figures that she must’ve gone back to buy a necklace there before she met with that CEO. And then he realizes, “I’m the one to buy it for her,” and immediately travels to Quebec.
Reaper gets reassuring advice about his breakup from a recently deceased psychiatrist, who is glad to give one last consultation before he forgets the memories from this life.
Shin returns home to find Grandpa hoping to play a round of baduk with him. As they play, Shin remarks on how he keeps losing these days when he was the one to teach the game to Grandpa as a boy. Grandpa chuckles, “Because I play with my life on the line.”
As Shin readies to put down his next piece, he suddenly feels a force, and the dropped piece works to Grandpa’s favor. The old man celebrates, but Shin already knows what’s coming, and sits in stunned silence.
Later, Grandpa is at the barbershop and the owner asks, “Are you going someplace nice?” Grandpa chuckles: “I believe so.” Oh no, is it Grandpa’s time to go?
Reaper joins Shin in some daytime drinking, and Shin says the reaper will soon receive Grandpa’s death card. Shin hasn’t told the old man, believing that nothing good comes from knowing one’s time, and Deok-hwa doesn’t know either.
He says Grandpa asked how “his friend” the reaper was doing, and Reaper says Grandpa probably knew everything. Shin ventures, “About you being dumped?”
Reaper admits he hasn’t called Sunny yet because he’ll have to come clean, to which Shin wonders if Sunny is a little thick-headed not to see that Reaper obviously looks like a grim reaper. Reaper asks if Shin didn’t sense anything else about her, and Shin says he did.
It bothered him that Sunny and his sister share the same name, so he’s glad things didn’t work out between Reaper and Sunny, because he didn’t like her. Reaper says Shin had better stop finding fault in Sunny; not necessarily because he’s taking her side, but because he hasn’t told Shin something about Sunny’s past life: “I think she’s the reincarnation of your sister.”
Shin asks if he’s sure it’s not him, and Reaper reveals that the face in Sunny’s past life matches the face of the woman in the scroll. Shin asks him to clarify what Reaper saw, and so Reaper tells him—of how he saw the woman standing in a palace, dressed in regal white robes, who was then pierced in the chest by an arrow and before she collapsed.
Shin says he told him that part of the story earlier, though he may not have mentioned her clothes or the arrow. He asks for more, so Reaper describes how he saw the woman smile at someone through her palanquin window, asking if she looked pretty today. He heard a man’s voice just once, responding, “You look…”
“…ugly.” Shin finishes. Reaper asks haltingly, “Is she really… your sister?” As the pieces fall into place, Shin answers, “Yes.”
But that’s not all: We see a glimpse of Goryeo, where an older Wang Yeo sits in his palace—and looks just like Reaper.
COMMENTS
Whoa, this is a lot of information to take in. Although much of these revelations regarding Reaper and Sunny confirm what we’ve already guessed, I hadn’t expected us to go so deep into the Goryeo story today. In truth, I’m rather grateful that we learned so much about Wang Yeo and Sun through Shin’s story before Shin was told that Sunny is the reincarnation of his sister. I’m always captivated whenever we dip into the Goryeo arc, and it was both fascinating and heartbreaking to learn of Wang Yeo’s upbringing by a power-hungry eunuch who later shaped his rule.
Even from the conversation from the palanquin alone, it’s evident that Shin and Sun shared a sweet sibling relationship. Seeing young love blossom between Yeo and Sun was endearing as well, and I loved how much of Sun we got to see. She spoke boldly and honestly, and her exchange with Eunuch Park gave me chills, because her presence and influence stood in his way of keeping his puppet king. Thanks to Shin’s story, we can better understand how Eunuch Park’s vile words about Shin and his family took root in Yeo’s mind and manifested in the young king’s jealousy and fear toward the revered general. We’ve yet to see how the jade ring comes into play here, which I hope means more flashbacks to Goryeo.
Seeing an older Yeo drills in the confirmation that Reaper was the Goryeo king in his past life, and while he can see into Sunny’s past, he has yet to recover his own memories. My heart ached watching Reaper suffer from a broken heart since he just looks like a lost puppy, but at least Eun-tak gave him an ego boost, which gave us an amusing glory shot of the two ajussshis bringing home groceries. I’ve really enjoyed watching Shin and Reaper become good friends over this series—though I’ll never tire of their childish bickering—and how they seek to work as a unit now to protect Eun-tak. I’m relieved her mortal peril storyline and the “will-she-or-won’t-she-pull-out-the-sword” took a backseat today, since that opens us up for other character moments. I liked how Eun-tak’s ghost friend Jung-hyun had an important role to play in her life, allowing Eun-tak to get some emotional closure on her mother’s death.
As for Shin and Eun-tak, things were generally happier between them with the celebration of the new year. Although Eun-tak coming of age does little to squash the huge 900-year age gap, this means we’re also getting closer to seeing the 29-year-old that Shin has seen. I don’t know if his realization about buying that necklace in Quebec gave him more insight into the lunch meeting that keeps bothering him, but right now, I’m honestly more curious about how Deok-hwa will grow following his grandfather’s impending death. I certainly missed him interacting with the rest of the gang today, since I’m sure he has a remedy or two to fix a broken heart. Don’t worry, Reaper—we’re all rooting for you in the new year.
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- The Lonely Shining Goblin: Episode 1
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1 elvira
December 31, 2016 at 9:38 PM
That tunnel-cool walking [while bringing grocery and send new year greeting] scene is the highlight episode.
Cracked me sooooo much...
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gogo
December 31, 2016 at 9:45 PM
i know right those two are the biggest dorks its adorable
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mianmian
December 31, 2016 at 10:25 PM
Haha and I KNEW you would choose the ending screen grab to be them waving. Those two dorks ❤️ Happy New Year beanies!
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Amy
January 1, 2017 at 12:24 AM
My theory -- the CEO that Eun tak meet when she is 29 in the future was Deok Hwa..
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 1:39 AM
I hope it's Shin.
paoiee
January 1, 2017 at 5:16 AM
I was thinking the exact same
thing! It's not far fetch if you think about it
Miky
January 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM
For me it screams as Shin as Human..maybe she lost in that future he saw her memories somehow as she forgets as well that she went to a foreign country but i sense it's Shin all along...He just didn't see it himself...My guess is they might go with them meeting in Canada again...Hope not because i want her to remember everything
Lollipop117
January 1, 2017 at 3:53 PM
For me I think, Grim reaper erased eun tak memory per shin wished. But deok hwa still remember her when he saw her in Quebec. Invite her for lunch.
shalini
January 1, 2017 at 5:44 PM
If you go back to that moment when Shin first saw Euntak (him with the umbrella, her in a green sweater and school uniform) there's a blurred series of future moments that he catches. He finds it unusual because they aren't clear but you can make out something in then if you watch it a few times.
One of those brief flashes showed someone that looks a great deal like Shin, pulling 29 y.o Euntak into his arms in front of a Christmas tree (in presumably Quebec).
So I think it's safe to say that we have a happy ending ahead. I just hope it doesn't involve amnesia.
Lollipop117
January 1, 2017 at 11:08 PM
@shalini
I watched again and again, replay many times the blurred series of future moment in episode 1 but what I saw that scenes already happened when eun tak followed Kim shin through that portal door in Episode 2. That's not Christmas tree but seem like maple tree.
P/s: I'm sorry if I was wrong.
Sekar
January 5, 2017 at 8:22 PM
nooo .. i hope it's shin :)
realraul23
December 31, 2016 at 9:59 PM
I know right! I nearly died laughing! Its was so them! Plus the part where Reaper asked Shin about the ring and Shin acted like Reaper is his sister! I watched Goblin while 2017 started and what a great way to bring in the New Year! Watching K-Drama!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR BEANIES!!! Here's to more awesome drama watchind and discussions on our favorite site!
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echo
December 31, 2016 at 10:28 PM
Completely agree ??happy new year beanies??
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chingu
December 31, 2016 at 11:07 PM
yeah, i saved like the last 15 mins of this ep and finished it off during the new year and i thought to myself, "what a great way to start off the new year" lawl... while others are happily outside watching fireworks. oh well.
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lee boo
January 1, 2017 at 12:07 AM
Happy new year beanies. More drama to our elbow more strength to our eyes and more understanding for upcoming dramas. May we become a better version of ourselves this year. No changes just improvements. I love you all.
PS: was this just me or is this episode shorter?
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Playstore
January 1, 2017 at 2:43 AM
That's exactly what I did. And honestly it's my second best celebration.
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xcmk
December 31, 2016 at 10:03 PM
Never knew grocery shopping could be so cool
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Miky
January 1, 2017 at 12:24 PM
Indeed and it was even more funny that they did it because Eun Tak said they looked cool!!!
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A
December 31, 2016 at 10:20 PM
Quick question - does anyone know what song is playing at the end of this episode, when it's revealed that Sunny is Shin's sister? I think it's beautiful.
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Chukahae (축하해)
January 1, 2017 at 12:00 AM
Do you refer to the song that is also used as the opening theme for Goblin? I think it hasn't released yet.
Looking forward for the day it will be released. The song was indeed beautiful and gives off mystery vibes that really lit up the fantasy background of Goblin.
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iatetoomuch
January 1, 2017 at 3:01 AM
Search in youtube: never far away - goblin ost
It's not an official release I think but it's the opening song
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Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 4:14 AM
Thanks @iatetoomuch (me too, I ate too much! LOL)
Yes that's a nice OST.
Chukahae (축하해)
January 1, 2017 at 5:14 AM
@iatetoomuch
Thanks for that info. . :)
alyaya
January 4, 2017 at 12:01 AM
Lasse Lindh – Hush
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pid
January 1, 2017 at 4:39 AM
I love that song too. it sound so mysterious and yet beautiful to hear.can't wait for the song to release.
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Misty
January 1, 2017 at 6:03 AM
Cant wait too. Version that I found in youtube is also short like the opening.
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erratic
January 1, 2017 at 6:17 AM
I know. It's perfect for a vampire series or something, but with the lead dudes being mystical beings themselves, I guess that's close enough. O.o
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UmbrellaMan
December 31, 2016 at 10:28 PM
I know right? It was so tongue in cheek. I laughed my ass off!! Plus the part where Sunny describes the looks and voice of our fair goblin and the fortuneteller named Gong Yoo. Hahahahaha
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DramaNinja
January 2, 2017 at 4:42 AM
A niggling question : Isn't the lottery ticket ghost and the fortune teller lady played by the same actor?
Someone please tell me i am wrong!
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Wag-a-muffin
January 2, 2017 at 7:22 AM
I thought that too! It's Hwang Suk-Jung, isn't it? Isn't it?! (Thanks for not letting me be the only one!)
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DramaNinja
January 2, 2017 at 10:36 AM
Thanks to you too. Are they playing mind games with us lol. To me both definitely look like HSJ! But how can that be, either they ignored the double casting or there is something to be explored there ? ?
Annie
January 2, 2017 at 1:13 PM
Hi, @Dramaninja, yes, it's the same actress. I think there was a bit with the ghost who said that she had 2 sisters and we could see a photo with the 3 of them, all played by the same actress. She's so funny! I liked her a lot in She Was Pretty, where she spoke Italian (I live in Italy, by the way :-)
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DramaNinja
January 2, 2017 at 5:19 PM
Thank you Annie I somehow seem to have completely missed this detail. And yes her She was Pretty character was the most memorable one that came to my mind too, as well as Secret Love ! She is such a riot :D
cocraze
January 4, 2017 at 1:58 AM
The first time we saw Sunny go to the shaman and was warned about men carrying a black hat (sorry, I cant remember which episode), there was a scene where Sunny was looking at a photo of the shaman and two others. The shaman said they were triplets.
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tinkerchen03
January 4, 2017 at 8:26 PM
The first time she appeared as the shaman a picture frame of three sisters showed then she said "we're triplets. I'm the maknae" lol so that's why they're played by the same actress.
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endo
December 31, 2016 at 11:48 PM
Shin and Reaper are hundred-year-old ajushi's but it was like ET and DH are taking care of two young boys. Teaching them what a real world is, without using superpowers. I just find it really odd and adorable at the same time. ?
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:08 AM
Ikr?! Also the scene where Shin overeacts when reaper locked hands with him, then ET blows on his hands to "sanitize" it lmao! It's like a mother with his child.
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Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 4:16 AM
I do like how human, childish and petty these 'god-like' immortals are. No one beats normal human females, even teenage ones, in terms of maturity!!! LOLOL.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 1:58 PM
* her
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Elokan
January 1, 2017 at 4:03 AM
Goblin and reaper on rescue ep2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rGaE3bKmro
Goblin and reaper marching with leeks (01:31)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiYn5NLejLU
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Sixtyone
January 1, 2017 at 4:23 AM
Leeks on runaway...
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Zaolin
January 1, 2017 at 10:25 AM
rotfl ~For that scene ( when they through the tunnel)
This drama is the best, always found a surprise and funny plot there.
It's really entertaining
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satsuki92
January 2, 2017 at 4:47 AM
how can they both still look hot carrying bags of leeks? gosh.
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tesshan
January 2, 2017 at 3:36 AM
The tunnel scene was the best. ahahahahaah
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pickledplumtree
January 2, 2017 at 9:15 PM
It's very possible that this is the loudest I ever laughed while watching a kdrama, and I also think I woke up my neighbor in the next apartment.
And that's even after accidentally spoiling it for myself by glancing at these comments first.
I also loved (and belly-laughed at) the faces Kim Shin made while walloping the fellas with the mop handle. Amazingness.
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K To
January 3, 2017 at 8:13 AM
Backlit, dramatic music, slow-mo with... a big bag of leeks.
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2 ck1Oz
December 31, 2016 at 9:45 PM
KES knows how to do fan service so well. The tunnel scene made me laugh so much. Bet the actors thought it was a hoot. That New Year greetings sounded like it was from them. Not the characters.
Also the Goryeo part is more dynamic than the modern scenes. That would have made an epic drama if the 2 men were opposing leads. They are both imposing.
I loved GY in his old dramas but he is just simply bewut
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ck1Oz
December 31, 2016 at 9:50 PM
... beautiful in this. Beautifully shot. The PD really likes to linger in his scenes huh?
And ok I have to say this... Sunny is not a quirky whatever character like they said in the character description. She is darn sexy though. Has the actress lost weight?
Subway... which I just had today. Not by choice. If we own a castle-like mansion and dress in designer wear- why would we eat your sandwiches? Let me tell you what sandwich I like and normally eat. My sourdough baguette with brie, walnut and caramelised onion. On a bed of mixed lettuce. And not a soft drink.
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annflln
January 1, 2017 at 12:13 AM
Yes! This PD love to linger on scenes. I never save so much drama screenshots before. But in this drama, I went crazy lol
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anrytoma
January 1, 2017 at 3:58 AM
haha..me too ?
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:13 AM
On the contrary I find Sunny funny lol. Subtle kind of funny not outright funny though. I do repeat a lot of her scenes recently (since she didn't have a lot in previous eps). Like the way she shouted Orabeoni when Shin left her old restaurant, the ways she sings when she heart reapers message alert tone, how he character is sometimes mong, etc..
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satsuki92
January 2, 2017 at 4:51 AM
the banter between her and the Goblin was so petty, so sibling-like. Unconsciously, they were returning to their former selves.
I replayed her scenes too! so so happy to get more of her. i love how her eyes were watering when Eun Tak came back to work for her. Show didn't just give us an awesome bromance. More of Sunny please!
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Kdramalovers
January 6, 2017 at 6:56 PM
Lol. IMHO Sunny looks more quirky than awesomely beautiful. Her yellowish/orangish/warm make up and hair color do not fit her well.
she would be more beautiful with black hair and sequin clothes, and sparkling make up
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sooyeon
January 1, 2017 at 9:05 AM
they should make the Goryeo version into a drama too.. :D
Kim Shin looks good with long hair.. ermm.. I mean Gong Yoo :D
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celine
January 2, 2017 at 9:00 PM
Gong Yoo needs to do a sageuk drama next. Or fine sageuk movie if that is what he wants. lol I have a feeling it will take years before we see him in the small screen again. He's probably signed on to do more films after this.
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pickledplumtree
January 2, 2017 at 9:17 PM
When they waved "Happy New Year!" I inadvertently waved back and replied "Happy New Year!" and then I asked myself "???" bc it was probably the most I've ever directly interacted with such a show...
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3 fgb4877
December 31, 2016 at 9:47 PM
Happy New Solar Yaer, dear Beanies!!!.
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4 heyitschristina
December 31, 2016 at 9:47 PM
I think by now we've all figured out that the Grim Reaper was the king but I still couldn't help but scream at the last scene( he also looks so sad and miserable). Oh and Happy New Year?
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gureum
December 31, 2016 at 10:04 PM
my thoughts exactly. i wasn't expecting any scenes of grownup king yeo!!
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Beesuzie
December 31, 2016 at 10:22 PM
God, the last scene killed me? He got brain poised and literally poison by that eunuch!
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chingu
December 31, 2016 at 11:02 PM
omg, do you really think the eunuch poisoned him, too? gah, that'd be so sad and cruel, since he raised him and the king really respected and valued him--to the point that he didn't even have the courage to have his own thoughts and opinions on things and always listened and obeyed what the eunuch told him. it saddened me when the king automatically looked to the eunuch for his approval in one of the scenes in this ep and when he didn't agree with the things the eunuch tells him to do, but never got himself to say or do otherwise. gah, that last moment of the king all grown up was sad; he looked absolutely miserable.
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alasecond
December 31, 2016 at 11:42 PM
I think that is exactly what goblin's wrods meant when he got revived adn found king dead "I came late"
Wasn't for revenge.. but the fact that he could not protect the king ultimatley
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Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM
Yes, that was the understanding I got from this episode that threw light on that scene. Shin was sad that he came too late to keep his promise to keep Yeo alive.
PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:16 AM
That's what immediately came to my mind as well. After all, he already knew beforehand who the real enemy was. He just underestimated the young king's jealousy.
DramaNinja
January 1, 2017 at 12:37 PM
Yes and the person who the Eunuch was talking with when Shin returns from thd dead could be the reason he killed king Yeo. Wow so much plot reveal today yet i'm hungry for more !
fangirl
January 2, 2017 at 9:37 PM
I didn't realize that the corpse that Kim Shin saw when he came back from the dead was Wang Yeo. I thought it was his sister that was in there. Thanks for pointing that out.
Beesuzie
January 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM
I think so. Gummimochi wrote "But a string of peculiar deaths took place soon after the eunuch’s arrival, particularly anyone else in line for the throne as well as the child’s older brother, the king. Although the cause of death was initially believed to be illness, the boy would later find out that they were all poisoned." I'm assuming he suffers the same fate by the evil eunuch ? And in the last scene he not only looks lonely but very ill too. And I like what @EZ wrote too in reply to your comment too. Shin wasn't late to kill the king but maybe to protect him from the evil eunuch? That's why he kill him right away?
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Amy
January 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM
I agree with you when shin said he is late maybe refers to King death..
bjharm
January 1, 2017 at 4:42 AM
I think Beesuzie was mean poisoning his mind rather than real poison like the rest of his family. Though I think the goblin observation is the telling one, the king was a fool and a weak one at that.
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patinalee
January 2, 2017 at 12:15 AM
I can't fault the king though. Let's not forget that the eunuch had been shaping the king's intellect since he was just a kid. The man even carried the sleeping kid on his back. Growing up under the eunuch's single or primary influence would have forged a deep trust for and dependency on the eunuch in the young king. Thus whatever the eunuch advocated would be heeded by the king, even to his (unsuspecting) detriment.
PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:21 AM
That's very possible. That, or he's just reaaaallllyy sad and miserable with all the deaths he caused and findig out that the person you trusted all this time really is evil. Furthermore, if Yeo eventually found out about the eunuch being responsible for poisoning the previous king and his heirs, which is treason, evil eunuch's probably gonna try to save his own butt. Although, that would make sense if he had a back-up puppet king to manipulate.
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Misty
January 1, 2017 at 6:16 AM
Wang Yeo look so miserable. I wonder if he was so angry and fullbof regret but due to deep relationship with the evil eunuch unable to even punish/kill the eunuch. He was poisoned too deeply.
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fgb4877
January 1, 2017 at 10:39 AM
To put a child on the throne while power gets to the regent was an actual method of power grabbing. In Japan at the same time period th Fujiwara family did just that. Emperors were forced to abdicate very young since as they grew older they started to think for themselves, something very upsetting for the ruling regent. Then a new (child) Emperor would be appointed and the cycle would begin again.
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questions987
January 1, 2017 at 12:24 PM
Did the eunuch look familiar to anyone else?
I'm thinking the secretary guy is the reincarnation of the eunuch. Which gives me a sense of foreboding
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MallieMae
January 1, 2017 at 8:43 PM
I was hoping someone else was wondering about this. Didn't Shin thank him for growing up to be good? Didn't the Grandfather say Shin have something to do was his upbringing?
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vivi
January 2, 2017 at 12:27 PM
But Shin cannot see past someone's past life tho (like he cannot tell who Sun was).
nomad
January 2, 2017 at 5:58 PM
@vivi I believe Goblin knows about someone's past lives as long as the person looks the same as his previous lives. He doesn't know about Sun b/c Sun doesn't look the same, but if the person looks the same he does know. He talks about this in the earlier episode.
fgb4877
January 2, 2017 at 7:43 PM
Sorry Nomad for being nitpicky, but when Shin originally died both the king and his sister were fairly young. If her sister lived longer, probably she would have looked like Sunny, as the king grew up to lok like Grim Reaper.
Of course this is not canon, but I guess that if Shin were to see Sunny's old photos, he would see a portrait of his sister.
Again, I recognize I am being very nitpicky ;) .
Mary
January 1, 2017 at 8:56 PM
He is!! Kim Shin said to the secretary guy in the scene that is good that he grew up as a good man (bec in the past he used to be bad haha) plus remember what the chairman told to the secretary "He (refering to the goblin) chose you"
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Tammie
January 3, 2017 at 8:40 PM
Hubby and I think so too. I'm a bit nervous. However, maybe he will atone for his badness in this life because Shin was so good to him growing up. Maybe? Oh, I hope so!
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hazelnutmoccalatte
January 1, 2017 at 4:10 PM
Shin took Kim Sun's picture from Yeo's personal chambers. It could be a possibility that adult Yeo (frequently) looked at the picture and grieved over his dead wife, just like Grim does now.
General Kim Shin was to give his beloved sister away in an arranged marriage, and he couldn't see her often. So I think his question to 'Were you loved' could be applied to both Queen Kim Sun or her reincarnation.
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5 berries
December 31, 2016 at 9:49 PM
happy new year~~ i laughed hard at the egg white and egg yolk part LOL
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ck1Oz
December 31, 2016 at 9:52 PM
I fell off my chair laughing when he said his concept was an angel. That was seriously evil. And mean. From the writer. Poor GR.
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chingu
December 31, 2016 at 11:05 PM
lol, yeah! i actually thought sunny looked like a chicken! with all that red and yellow. ahaha, i kinda wished shin said that, too, bc it's appropriate since she's a chicken shop owner. lawl. i prob would've ruined the plan, too. haha. but it was so cute when shin thought he did a good job by calling them beansprouts bc he knows grims like beansprouts. basically, i just love the four of them together. here's to more double dates!
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endo
December 31, 2016 at 11:50 PM
Haha. I actually can't breath by laughing too much because i have to tone it down because my husband was asleep. ???
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:25 AM
OMG! Shin's either really naive about giving compliments or he's really mean, I think it's the latter lol! However I love that he likened our Goryeo couple to a single thing - 2 parts, one body.
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fgb4877
January 1, 2017 at 10:43 AM
Shin is a teaser. He is teasing both Sunny and Reaper the way he used to do with his sister and would have liked to do with Wang Yeo if the hierarchy would have allowed it.
This Drama is giving me something I asked several episodes ago: some Shin - Sunny siblings bickering ;) .
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dieyb
January 3, 2017 at 11:41 PM
are you the one who wrote the sibling-bickering-wish in previous recaps. hahaha..
am immediately remembered those comments when the scene Shin and Sun arguing. ^.^
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leni1965
January 1, 2017 at 7:03 AM
LOL ..... same here! I was really laughing like crazy with the goblin's reference to them as the egg white/yolk and the bean sprout. I never tire watching this drama because as much as there is angst and broken hearts, there is a lot of funny and cute moments too. Keeps it really interesting and balanced.
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DramaNinja
January 1, 2017 at 12:40 PM
That is exactly what came to my mind when i saw Sunny too. Maybe her fashion sense got a hit because she is wallowing in heart break just like poor GR.
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6 Napkiin
December 31, 2016 at 9:50 PM
YES, AND YES. A confirmation that Grim Reaper is indeed the King Wang Yeo himself! He looks completely dead and heartbroken in the last scene, probably realized he did a huge mistake?? Hopefully??
Omg, the Goryeo scenes are everything. I'm so glad we got such a long Goryeo moment and the backstory between our king and queen. The Kim siblings are just too cute, it kinda seems like both Sunny and the queen have similar personalities which is great.
Wow and is that eunuch creepy af or what, could not believe he actually called the queen a b*****, and spoke to her in banmal, somebody above him. It's sad to think back then warrior families are viewed inferior to scholar families.
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kumoiwa
December 31, 2016 at 9:58 PM
And he actually dared to address the king by his personal name too! I gasped when Park Joong-won dropped down to banmal and called Yeo "Yeo" when speaking to Sun. This guy seriously didn't even bother to hide his enormous desire to be the driving force behind the throne at all.
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Napkiin
December 31, 2016 at 10:03 PM
If this was Jang Hee-bin or Wu Zetian, they'd have killed him already for speaking informally to them!
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Apheengs
January 1, 2017 at 7:21 AM
Haha! I agree with you. Jang Hee bin would've had his head off his body already. haha!
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Ramenqueen
January 1, 2017 at 5:52 PM
I don't get how such an Enoch can do all of that like raise of the young king, position that many people and not be caught??
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J.A.
January 3, 2017 at 7:41 PM
My friends and I were about to drop this drama, but now with the story focused on the grim reaper and Sunny, it is getting nail biting exciting!!
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7 kumoiwa
December 31, 2016 at 9:54 PM
The Goryeo scenes broke my heart. Yeo seemed so enamoured and in love with Sun, and she the same with him, so it was even harder to process that he was able to believe that she was trying to gather power for her family instead of thinking in his best interests.
Park Joong-won's role as effective regent behind-the-scenes reminds me a lot of the eunuchs who wielded excessive power in the Ming dynasty. It came to a point in the Wanli Emperor's reign that scholar-bureaucrats had to actually seek approval from the eunuch in power first before they could have an audience with the emperor himself. Imagine that, scholars who were on the apex of the Confucian hierarchy having to be approved by a eunuch, someone they considered to not even be a "proper" man, before they could meet their monarch. Insult of the highest order, really, so I presume that's why the loyal minister who proposed the union between Sun and Yeo looked so disgusted. Park Joong-won's power seemed unchecked even until Yeo's death, so that is a scary thought in itself.
Adult Yeo looked so dead inside--he probably never truly lived again after he realised what he had done to the wife who had loved him so much. I really appreciated the scenes of Sun standing up to Park Joong-won, because she's all alone without any sort of political backing or leverage, but yet she chooses to speak up not once, but twice about Park Joong-won's desire to play kingmaker. What a brave young lady.
That epic strut down the tunnel to return home with green onions LOL I love this pair of brothers-in-law so much <3
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Napkiin
December 31, 2016 at 10:08 PM
I guess this is a typical sageuk plot, King puppet with a greater power behind his throne (Queen Dowager, eunuch etc).
Kim Sun as a queen I guess is rather weak since her family is a warrior family instead of a scholar family. Can you imagine if Kim Sun came from a more "powerful" family, like Queen Jeonghui or Queen Insoo? The eunuch wouldn't dare treat her that way.
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fgb4877
January 1, 2017 at 10:52 AM
Dear CherryArrow, it is both a Sageuk plot AND an historical fact. Heian era Japan had such a system driven by the Fujiwara family, and as far as I know (please correct me otherwise) it has been so throughout all Japanese history since with the notable exceptions of the Meiji-Taisho interlude. Modern Japanese Emperors since had become a mainly protocolar figure.
Again, please correct me otherwise.
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Napkiin
January 1, 2017 at 11:03 AM
When I said typical sageuk plot I didn't mention anything about the Japanese imperial system, it's pretty safe to assume that I'm talking about the Korean system, since well this is a kdrama afterall. A lot of times Kings/Emperors are too young to rule, their mothers (or even eunuchs in this case) etc reign behind the curtains. (Eg. Empress Dowager Cixi, Daewon-goon)
The Japanese imperial system is much different from the Koreans or the Chinese anyway.
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Li Ping
January 1, 2017 at 12:45 PM
I have to agree with cherryarrow on this. Japanese emperors were figureheads and symbolic figures for the majority of Japanese history. They rarely held actual power, and all international diplomacy was done by the shoguns/daimyos, not the Japanese emperor. You could say that Japanese emperors were similar to political hostages or pawns in the power struggles of the daimyos who held the real power in Japan (of course, this all changed in the 19th century). The situation was very different in China and Korea.
O_o
January 1, 2017 at 4:28 PM
Again, China and Korea were in as disparate positions as Korea and Japan were. What went on in China did not necessarily happen in Korea as well and vice versa.
Napkiin
January 1, 2017 at 5:54 PM
@O_o
Of course? I don't think anybody said things that went on in China and Korea were the same.
O_o
January 1, 2017 at 12:13 PM
One can't really compare Joseon and Goryeo as if they had similar political systems. One of the reasons Goryeo collapsed was the corrupted Buddhist monks and Buddhism was practically the state religion. When Joseon was established, one of the first things Jeong Do Jeon did was to eschew Buddhism and to make Confucianism the founding political ideology of the new state. Preferential treatments of the pen/civil officials over the sword/military officials all started then, not before.
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Napkiin
January 1, 2017 at 12:42 PM
Right, Goryeo and Joseon are really different. Since the king in Goblin is fictional, not based on any real Kings, there's just a lot of typical sageuk plots in here.
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Wag-a-muffin
January 2, 2017 at 7:26 AM
Kim Sun is a "weak" (or powerless) queen because her father is dead and her mother went crazy and is dead. She has a royal lineage, but no power behind it--because all her "people" are dead--except her military brother.
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Napkiin
January 2, 2017 at 8:13 AM
Her mother went crazy?? Wait where was this? I don't recall seeing this in ep 10... I only recall Shin talking about Yeo's father being dead and his mother was a low birth woman and got kicked out of the palace.
Sun is indeed a weaker Queen, she's of course of noble blood, that's why she's able to marry the king
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Wag-a-muffin
January 2, 2017 at 11:19 AM
Sorry, cherryarrow. When I read the subtitles (near the beginning of episode 10) when the Goblin is telling the Reaper his life story (which he'd never told before--I thought that when he said, "A child was born and his father was the king, who was poisoned, and his mother went crazy," I thought he was talking about himself, (not as it turns out, The Reaper.) I thought if HIS father was a poisoned king and HIS mother was a woman who went crazy from grief, that his sister would have the same parentage. But now that I've gone back and rewatched it, I realize he was talking about the boy king (or the Reaper.) Sorry. I didn't mean to confuse anyone. I was just confused myself.
So yes, the Shin family were not royals, but the king (who was poisoned, who was the reaper's older brother) asked Shin to marry his sister to the king (his little brother, now the reaper) and to watch over him.
It's not a convoluted as I thought at first. Sorry for my mistake.
Kiara
January 2, 2017 at 2:12 PM
@ Wag_a_Muffin
You got it.
Shin's clan were not of royal blood but they were noble enough for his sister to marry into the royal family.
Scholar Park was probably higher in rank. He was looking down on the Kim siblings even though she was of higher status than him as the queen of the Goryeo.
Kiara
December 31, 2016 at 10:46 PM
I'm not really satisfied that Eunuch Park was just an evil greedy bastard out of nowhere. What is his story? Did any of the past kings wronged him or his family?
I'm pretty sure he poisoned Wang Yeo too. When Shin returned to the palace after he was raised from the dead he said something about being late.
I originally thought that he was too late to take his revenge on the king but he actually came back to protect him. So sad, Shin was loyal till the end.
This makes me want to rewatch Age of Warriors. Interesting time and the shift of power from the monarchs to the military regime.
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Lord Cobol
December 31, 2016 at 11:08 PM
Interesting idea about why Kim Shin said he was late. For a minute I was persuaded...
... but didn't he burn down the place with the king's corpse? Seems more like he was pissed than apologetic.
And having him still angry probably means more possibility of dramatic conflict in the final episodes (?).
But I'm still only 55% sure you're wrong.
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Kiara
December 31, 2016 at 11:30 PM
He did, with the king and his evil eunuchs in it too. They all had a hand in his demised but I don't think he'd have it in him to kill his own king.
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alasecond
December 31, 2016 at 11:47 PM
Remember the lantern with queen and kings name.. and granpa telling DH that there are two people Shin owes debt to..
As a noble soldier.. who promised to take care of the king Yeo..
he still cares for him.. and has more regret abt failing to fulfill his promise of saving the king (also the one his sister truly loved)
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:33 AM
THIS! Shin probably wouldn't go to the temple religiously to pray and send lanterns for our Goryeo couple if he has a grudge or if he feels hatred for them (for Yeo). It's more like he felt bad he wasn't able to fulfill his promise to the previous king.
chingu
December 31, 2016 at 11:11 PM
omg, good point! i also thought that he came back to take his revenge on the king, but after watching this ep, it makes sense that he came back to keep his word/promise to protect the king and not let him die. gah, so so sad. kim shin is a great character.
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Misty
January 1, 2017 at 6:25 AM
I agree. He was a loving brother, a great and loyal general. He fought hard for his country. And in the end did not mention at all in history and punished with immortality.
Justice is needed!
Happy ending please. (wink to KES)
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kiip
December 31, 2016 at 11:36 PM
that's what happens when you let The Gays into a cabal.
seriously though do you never study history? this is a dude, they cut off his junk. no chance for a family, a legacy or anything that was held of import for a man in his time.
all he has is his machinations and intrigue. castration was a form of control across societies in the old world but often the inmates ended up running the asylum. there are so many stories of eunuchs running shit, just like praetorian, shogun or other bodyguards.
seriously they cut off his ballzzz... omg big question WUZ HE RONGED??? INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO NO
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kumoiwa
December 31, 2016 at 11:49 PM
Fair, except that I went back to the episode to check and Shin described Park Joong-won as a pak-sa (equivalent to a professor today) at the Gukjagam, the highest educational institution in Goryeo (it was later renamed Sunggyunkwan). Given that he was an instructor at a Confucian institution, it kind of seems unlikely now that he would have been a eunuch at all, since he wouldn't even have been allowed entry if he had been castrated, let alone hold such a post of such high prestige.
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM
Some translations refer to him as a scholar/teacher. So where did we get the eunuch from in the beginning? It's confusing.
kumoiwa
January 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM
@Kiara: I don't really know, I think everyone just presumed that he was a eunuch because he was so close to the king, and I guess eunuchs were the only people who could serve the king on hand-and-foot?
Though now that we know he's a professor at the Gukjagam, it kind of adds dimension to his ambitions to play kingmaker. I imagine he relished the accomplishment of creating a king more. Sometimes not being king can mean wielding greater power, and in Park Joong-won's case, it seems like he managed to achieve that.
Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM
@kumoiwa
Yes, he looks like he was doing the duties of an eunuch and a teacher when the king was a child. He became the king's adviser when the king was older.
I guess we should have figured it out from what he was wearing but I don't trust this production when it comes to Goryeo.
They have the Goguryeo flags everywhere when it's supposed to be Goryeo.
I guess that makes sense. It doesn't have to be revenge.
PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:40 AM
There wasn't much explanation on previous episodes, so I supposed that the audience, or at least I, assumed he was an eunuch based on his outfit. What Kumoiwa said is true though, the translation in the site I go to, he was referred to as a 'scholar', he was Yeo's teacher as well when he was younger. It just confused me though because in this recap, he being referred to as an eunuch.
Iamastonished
January 1, 2017 at 8:27 PM
Hummm
Well , he is wearing the hat of a scholar so he is defiantly not a eunuch. Crazzzzy yes but not a eunuch. I have always assumed that the reason behind the unpleasant procedure was to render male servants more passive, servile and loyal to the King Marriage to and seduction of court ladies would also be out of the question. The physiological and psychological damage is horrible to contemplate but still a life within the palace was considered a good gig. Life must have been pretty rough outside the palace if you follow this logic.
Annie
January 2, 2017 at 1:34 PM
This theory makes a lot of sense. From what I've noticed in other historical dramas the eunuchs don't have any facial hair, while Park Joong-won has a beard, so he's probably not a eunuch. Even if in the subtitles that I've seen he was called an eunuch.
Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 12:26 AM
YOU WANT TO NO? Come back when you decide not to act like a troll.
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nomad
January 2, 2017 at 6:09 PM
@kiara, at least from that trolling comment came really good discussions, though. I've always thought the evil guy was a eunuch b/c of the recap....if I hadn't read y'alls discussion, I wouldn't have had any inkling that he was actually a Paksa. What a trollish comment, though...seriously.
LeenieWeenieChileBeanie
December 31, 2016 at 11:59 PM
I'm curious to see who ends up being the reincarnation of Eunuch Park in the present day.
I REALLY hope it isn't Deok-hwa. There are hidden depths to his character -- whether he's connected to Granny Samshin, the goddess of birth and fate, or he turns out to be something more sinister, I don't know.
It could be the young secretary (it's suspect that the two actors who play Eunuch Park and the secretary look so much alike). This drama is really doing a good job at keeping us guessing. I mean, we all figured out the obvious connections (who the king and queen were, and their relation to Shin), but the greater details and how things will go in the end are harder to pin down.
By the way...it's 11:59 pm Pacific Standard Time as I type this. Happy New Year Everyone!!!! :-)
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paminess
January 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM
me too! i think the secretary is the reincarnation of the eunich
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endo
January 1, 2017 at 1:13 AM
I think the secretary is the eunuch. Which is kindof scary because Chairman Yoo will be gone and obviously DH is not yet ready. So secretary will take over for a while...
DramaNinja
January 1, 2017 at 12:57 PM
@endo Oh this ! But didn't Shin complement him on growing up well. He is shady ofcourse but not that evil...yet?
But if he is the reincarnation (which i believed is unneccessary since Shin killed him in the past. Only if it was crueler õõ), what are the possiblities that he is not a danger to uri DH !!
Wow this show sure keeps us guessing doesn't it.
Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 7:40 PM
He is called secretary Kim so I don't think he is the reincarnation of Park Joong-won. I don't think there is enough time for the show to go there?
So far everyone has been reincarnated with their original name. There is more to cover between the main leads and we only have 6 more episodes.
PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:49 AM
I also thought that too. I wonder though, if Shin already had an inkling (he does know of some people and who they were in the past in previous eps) and tries to keep his enemy (former) close and tried to set him on a righteous path by being his patron. I mean, the secretary do have a dark and shady past as a loan shark, so we know that he has a tendency to be evil. Plus he thanked the secretary for "growing up well". Plus he's technically a scholar in modern times too since Shin sponsored his college education.
Just can't wait for the show to reveal the secretary's name!
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Napkiin
January 1, 2017 at 8:27 AM
I don't think the secretary is the eunuch to be honest, he committed so many crimes he's for sure going to hell. Remember the guy who ran over lots of people and died? He didn't get a cup of tea because he's going to rot in hell, while the lady gets a chance to be reincarnated (and forgetting her past life with the tea). I can't imagine the eunuch would be offered another chance in life - reincarnation..
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 2:19 PM
If we're going by this drama's logic, he should be a reaper as well. Plus when it comes to death in this drama, some gets to drink tea, some don't and go to hell, and some go straight to heaven with their memories intact (the boy from Paris); so honestly we don't exactly know the parameters on how one gets to have a specific kind of treatment from the reaper.
Furthermore, with the writer's record of writing characters that seem like extras but turns out to have a more significant role (like mom's bestfriend), I don't think she would leave us hanging by not providing a proper closure for a manipulative character that was the cause for our three main leads' tragic story.
Anyway, this is just a theory anyway, just like how a lot of people theorized early on that Sunny & reaper is our Goryeo couple. I'm just really open to that possibility since the author plants a lot of hints early on before some sort of big reveal.
Jenny
January 1, 2017 at 2:42 PM
I agree. The Eunuch should have been punished severely, way more than Goblin and GR. His evil deeds were very very evil.
I'm really very curious about DW- that scene in Ep 9 where he acts like he knows her......
Napkiin
January 1, 2017 at 4:28 PM
@personalnnominatum
My theory is that people who became grim reapers is that they committed crimes but felt guilty and remorse for it. Since eunuch Park didn't feel any he didn't become a grim reaper.
Also i noticed the sang goon standing next to eunuch Park in ep 1 is the pretty female grim reaper that appeared in earlier episodes. I wonder if all the grim reapers are related to the incident 900 yrs ago.
Sandflwer
January 1, 2017 at 9:38 AM
I don't think the secretary is the Eunuch - there was a scene where Shin said "thank you for growing up well ..."
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 2:22 PM
It was exactly that statement that makes me think he might be the eunuch's reincarnation and that Shin somehow knew. Since according to grandpa, Shin personally chose the secretary and became his patron in many ways, including sponsoring his college education. I think Shin is aware of the secretary's dark past as a loan shark and his tendency to be evil that's why he tried to set him on the right path.
endo
January 1, 2017 at 5:27 PM
PersonaInnominatum
"I don’t think she would leave us hanging by not providing a proper closure for a manipulative character that was the cause for our three main leads’ tragic story."
YES. The eunuch did all of this. So it's a possibility that he would re-incarnate.
My vote is, it is the secretary because the show is slowly building his character. There are so many clues. Like when that scene that he just stood outside KS Home and said " a human that doesn't age".. Or that " I know more about the Dark Places" while having a talk with ET Aunt.
fgb4877
January 1, 2017 at 3:58 PM
Dear Kiara, of course it would be interesting to know Scholar Park's story, if only that screen time wouldn't be taken from main plot/main character development!.
Power corrupts people. Absolute power like in a medieval monarchy even more than nowadays (except in the case of dictators).
Imagine a person very far from the power center that doesn't even dreams to become part of a power structure suddenly in the center of the country. Imagine that person having unfulfilled dreams and several ideas about how to"improve" the country. Then that person has the possibility to influence a future king, not only by giving him education but also by forming his worldview and his value system... if not for the pesky conservative people around him too afraid to give the necessary steps to make revolution possible...
Then you have it. A normal but capable person with good intentions but not prepared to confront himself to that augmenting mirror that is power, starts to bend his values and himself little by little in order to achieve his goals.
That is why I am so fond of Pepe Mujica even if I am at odds with his ideology and his world view: after he was the president of Uruguay, he returned to the little villa he has with his run down VW Scarab. In Latin America that is highly unusual.
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 8:51 PM
You are right. There is no time for that. I kept saying that this drama needs to be simple but my mind kept wandering lol.
I guess it makes more sense now that Park was actually a scholar and he was higher rank than the Kims. I can now see how he could've been in a position to acquire power.
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matcha and the beer
December 31, 2016 at 11:31 PM
I'm just starting my first day in 2017 and eunuch park already give me chill.
But Lee Dong Wook as the adult Yeo looks so daym awesome
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Emmy
January 1, 2017 at 11:57 AM
@kimoiwa
I was also thinking about the fascinating/ morbid relationship between the young Wanli emperor and his de facto regent Zhang Juzheng, whom he had a very reliant relationship as a child, and then completely came to despise him when Wanli came of age and ascended the throne.
I think the Goryeo backstory is so rich and wonderfully written. In part, because of the great filming, but also because all the actors in the Goryeo section do an amazing job. The young king and queen are great, and Gong Yoo's warrior character has so much pathos which the modern goblin lacks. I think it is in part because Kim Shin hasn't really been "living" between his first life and his immortal self until he met Euntak. As he was speaking to the scroll earlier this episode that only recently has he started to be alright again.
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8 Kei
December 31, 2016 at 9:55 PM
I still don't get the match vibe between et and goblin while reaper x sunny and young king and queen is burst out with charm,
I read a comment yesterday about removing et from the story and make sunny the bride/the blade remover , that's open a better story imo,
I think what bugged me with the story is they try to justify everything that no one is bad, no one need to do something drastic, even the goblin and et looks like has no problem at all,
all of et and goblin feels like commercial and not real, while the goryeo story has more sincerety.
overall I think et is a fail, as character and how it get portrayed.
the lack of narrative as too sad and bad upbringing backstory then the actress hard carry to look bright and free didn't match.
Other character have their own time of seriousness despite bickering but et feels just like playing alone without much worry cause she has everything.
The goryeo story is great, moving but didn't provide more plot, at least explains the ring?
Or deokhwa, all just stalling
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LizJ
January 1, 2017 at 2:26 AM
"I read a comment yesterday about removing et from the story and make sunny the bride/the blade remover , that’s open a better story imo"
Seriously? Ugh.
I really don't get why someone would want to see that happen.
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 7:11 AM
That doesn't make any sense unless you dislike Kim Go-eun. What would Yoo In-na do in her place that Kim Go-eun isn't already doing?
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kei
January 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM
then we have the mature and weird sunny on the middle of helping the goblin and fall in love with the reaper,
we then have the bride who can't fall for the goblin but will always between death and life, the life savior of the goblin who falls in love with the reaper and can't help the goblin but keep making their destiny difficult, who said goblin always need love?
isn't it fabricated that whoever choose to be his bride is gonna fall for him and him gonna fall for her?
so who is her is never mattered, the childlike or age older childlike attitude euntak never matter because the goblin will always like her and it never because of her,
the story then didn't need a childlike heroine
and this isn't about yoo inna vs kim go eun but how unimportant and insignificant euntak - goblin story over the episode and the actress portrayal didn't help either
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DramaNinja
January 1, 2017 at 1:15 PM
" because the goblin will always like her and it never because of her"
Really? So you are saying you are comfortable with Goblin falling in love with his reincarnated Sister ? Or do you simply not understand how this works?
Also, weren't almost all of the previous episodes about her impending death, existential crisis(missing soul/ tool), her mom, she not having a home, her not having enough money to survive, she working part time while srudying, etc. She does have her worries right?
ET has a bright personality only infront of those people with whom she feels that she BELONGS. Also doesn't every teen girl try to act cute in front of the guy she likes ?
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kei
January 3, 2017 at 8:00 AM
I don't mean that the bride gonna fall in love to the goblin, I even don't think it gonna be a bride, just the goblin's slayer,
my version is that she needs to take the sword but she can't because they want her to fall for her as a man when what she needs is to forgive her as a sister, so there's no one for Goblin,
who said blood lineage and reincarnation is the same?
in my version, the sword puller is the reincarnation of the sister because it makes more sense, when she finally able to let him go and remember her past, she can pulled the swords,
I had nothng againts the actreess just like all people that have been saying the same thing about the character but it's sad that people always assume that people who complaint hate the actress instead of looking on what the criticism is about,
Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM
You know I'm trying really hard to understand you but I can't :(.
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Fioara
January 4, 2017 at 7:31 AM
I agree with you Kiara...Kei theory doesn't make sense with regards to Goblin.
If you have difficulty understanding Kei's theory though...I suggest think along the lines of Frozen's story... You know how true love doesn't necessary mean lovers and that it could be the love between sisters.
But this theory does not make sense at all for Goblin's story and characters.
Aqee
January 1, 2017 at 11:54 AM
Eun Tak is adorable..!
I'll prefer her anytime over Sunny and her childish behavior has tone down a lil..
Her dance when the clock strike midnight is too cute..!
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kei
January 1, 2017 at 12:04 PM
dance that anyone can do and "tone down a lil"
seriously?
a lil after 10 episode, that's why she doesn't fit,
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Nana
January 1, 2017 at 3:33 PM
what do you have against Eun Tak or Kim Go Eun? I find the character & the actress just fine.
and happy new year to you..
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endo
January 1, 2017 at 5:30 PM
Just ignore this kind of comments. A person making the same remarks against KGE and ET since Ep 1. I thinks they're the same. Lol.
Emmy
January 1, 2017 at 12:08 PM
I think the young king and queen have the most romantic and swoony love line. It's like the kind of love that sweep one off one's feet.
That said, I totally buy into the Eun Tak-Goblin romance. I'm not gaga over it, like I am with some other couples in Kdrama, but I love it everytime they are on screen together. To me, it is obvious that the two characters are really fond of each other and attracted to one another. It is in many ways a really unconventional love line. I don't really remember other dramas where someone is "destined" to be someone's bride. So I am interested in where the writer will take us with their romance.
I think theirs has the potential to turn into a really rounded, dimensional love story which will have us in tears by the time the drama is over. Too bad this couple doesn't work for everyone, but I love it.
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danydanybobany
January 1, 2017 at 1:53 PM
YOU TOTALLY READ MY MIND. Your whole comment its spot on for me, including the one about the king and queen.
I was watching this episode today, really enjoying the sweet moments between them and i thought that their love story its not the conventional love story. "Fate" is somehow always present in many kdramas, but here the way their relationship has develop feels different.
I have to say, on the firts episodes i wasnt totally buying the pair, but I LOVE L-O-V-E Gong yoo, he is perfect, I like the way Kim Go-eun portrays Eun-tak and they have sold me their story effectively. As you said, im not mad about them as other couples i have seen, but they work for me.
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Emmy
January 4, 2017 at 1:08 AM
This role was made for Gong Yoo. I cannot imagine anyone else playing it. He has the gravitas to act as an immrtal who has lived a tragic life for 900 years. At the same time, I completely believe the pettiness, his squabbles with Eun-tak etc. I have only seen Gong Yoo in biscuit teacher star candy so far, but oh my, he's something to behold here. So much charisma!
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celine
January 2, 2017 at 9:50 PM
I like Shin and Euntak, but I'm not feeling the romance the way I want to. However, I agree that they seem to have an unconventional love going. I feel the fondness and care, but not the usual romance in other dramas. It's not entirely a bad thing. I actually like them as a pair. I find them really endearing and their scenes together are cute, funny, sweet, and swoony.
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fangirl
January 3, 2017 at 1:04 AM
I agree with you.
Eun Tak and Kim Shin has the purest and sweetest love story in all of dramaland. She had a sad life story right after her mother died but this did not stop her from becoming cheerful to people who showed concern for her most especially the sad Goblin.
They complement each other in that they turn to each other whenever they needed help. She cheers him on whenever he feels down and he helps her out whenever she needs him. They respect each other and understands one another. Isn't that how love should be?
It may have not started out by sweeping them off their feet but their love for each other developed into a deep rooted one founded on genuine respect and care for each other. It's a steady growing love that is willing to hurdle all trials including death. I wouldn't have it any other way if I were in their shoes.
IMHO, the show wants to portray this type of true love without the need to show passion or steamy romance. There really is no need. The back hug stirs a lot of emotions and gives one that warm feeling of being secure and feel loved.
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Emmy
January 3, 2017 at 11:08 AM
I think you are spot on about theirs being a love that slowly grows and develops. We don't see that in dramaland, because romantic love is so much more appealing to the viewers. Who doesn't enjoy the heady rush of falling in love?
Of course, Shin and Eun-Tak do fall in love too. They were fascinated by each other from the get-go, Shin was strongly drawn to Eun-tak, and theirs is after all, a love that is destined.
At the same time, they are two strangers, gradually getting to know and love each other, slowly throughout the series. That's why episode 9 was such a pivotal episode for our characters. It taught Shin that he had to communicate with Eun-tak and stop withholding information from her. I also think Eun-tak's realisation that Shin might die made her confront her love for him.
Now Shin is finally making conscious choice. Despite the challenges, he is going to find a way to live with Eun-tak for 80 years. I love the warm and secure love these two portray. That back-hug and dialogue was wonderful. I do think passionate and steamy will eventually come along, and I'm totally looking forward to that too!
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Ping
January 1, 2017 at 12:52 PM
"at least explains the ring?"
Have you considered that maybe the writer is waiting to reveal that information for later? Sheesh, some impatient people.
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Jenny
January 1, 2017 at 2:49 PM
ET is needed. Because she isn't/wasn't involved in the past drama that the three other characters were in, she is the one who can bring change. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to break out of the cycle.
I love the character. I don't care if she is so perky or optimistic. She has her moments of misery as well. they could have made her character more morose- but then this would have been a depressing show. She is a hopeful person, because she brings hope to the other three, both literally in the sense that they all change because of her presence, and emotionally.
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Bobbie
January 1, 2017 at 5:15 PM
Yes! Exactly - she is their hope; the one to bring them hope out of their previously hopeless situation in Goryeo so that they can finally have a happy ending. She, as the drama has already alluded to, is the 'variable'. I'm expecting even greater things from her <3
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celine
January 2, 2017 at 9:51 PM
I like how you explained how Euntak is the only one not directly involved in their past, but is someone crucial to the present and the future of the other characters. I do wonder how else is she connected to them? I feel like we will get more revelations.
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Petmink
January 2, 2017 at 5:09 AM
Why are people being so mean in the comments. Just because you don't agree with them does not mean you can't respect someone's opinion.
Great start to the new year.
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M.A.7
January 3, 2017 at 8:06 PM
I know two of my friends, and me, included, that skip scenes of the Goblin and EunTak, and just go straight to the Grim reaper and Sunny scenes as they are more interesting and intense! Haven't been this interested in a kdrama couple story since My love From Another Star!! ?
Peace!
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9 gureum
December 31, 2016 at 9:55 PM
Although Kim Min Jae has done a terrific job at playing the part of the young king, I kind of wish that Kwak Dong Yeon would've done it instead. He resembles Lee Dong Wook much more. I also appreciate that the casting directors took into account the actors' younger counterparts to make them somewhat resemble the regular actors (yoo in na and kim so hyun have a lot of similar features upon closer look).
also i totally missed seeing Deokhwa today! when we had so many theories about him yesterday, kim eun sook loves keeping us on edge..
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NutellaFitzgerald
December 31, 2016 at 11:02 PM
I laughed, though when Deok-hwa told the manager "I'm much more important than you can imagine."
Of course, his reaction to her reply that she knew he was the chairman's grandson made it seem like that was all he meant...but I really think there's more. LOL
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chingu
December 31, 2016 at 11:13 PM
but hey, can we talk about that adjustable desk? i want one~! ppl success once again!
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Gureum
January 1, 2017 at 1:10 AM
I really do hope all of his conceited talk and arrogance actually amounts for more than his social status, and that he's actually hiding the fact that he's a supernatural!
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:59 AM
Plus he said something about "being born above her and coming down to start at the bottom". With all the theories from episode 9, it makes me think that this doesn't seem like your regular rich, bratty, and arrogant statement; and the "above" part is literal and not metaphorical in this case.
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erratic
January 1, 2017 at 6:22 AM
Also, in the previous episode, I think he spoke banmal to the lady in red when he said he didn't have his credit card... so his ranking is higher than that of Lee El? O.o
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slvr1
January 1, 2017 at 12:28 AM
Ooh, I agree with you about KWAK DONG YEON sharing many features with LDW, and I am sure he would have been kickass in the role. Plus he would get to act with So Hyun (he has a big crush on her as per interviews, aww).
I think the Moonlight post-drama schedule was a bit tough so he couldn't do it.
Although I really adored Kim Min Jae and So Hyun, and thought they had adorable chemistry. They would seriously look very cute in a sageuk together. :)
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10 Jamie Prado
December 31, 2016 at 10:08 PM
Happy new year! I had figured that reaper was king, I can't wait to see how he will handle it once he realises.
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11 FanOfLeeJunKi'sMane
December 31, 2016 at 10:09 PM
There were just so many moments that click in this episode. I love, love it!
I can't help but get excited on how are they gonna resolve the hundred years long Kim Shin and the King/ Brother In Law issue.
And will she ever take out the sword? Probably not ever, right?
Sanitize my heart from this pain too~ Goblin!
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Kiara
December 31, 2016 at 11:14 PM
I hope they'll have the will power to decide their own fate. These deities are getting on my last nerve.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:05 AM
Plus, when reaper finally recovers his memories, I'd like to know his thoughts & reactions when he finally connects Shin's side of the story to his past. I know he was groomed and manipulated since he was a kid, but still, be guilty young & foolish Goryeo king! lol! It felt like everything Shin said to reaper was what he was trying to say when he defiantly tried to take a step towards the king.
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DramaNinja
January 1, 2017 at 1:29 PM
About Reaper getting back his memories.
Why is he only 300 while our Goblin is way older ? Did he go to hell for his bad deeds and then become Reaper due to good behaviour/ Repentance ? Then his memory was maybe erased for solace from the crime?
Hopefully we get answers before the curtains are drawn on the Show. 16 episodes seem too short.
Extention Pls? Or a spin off ?
Title suggestion: The Grim Reapers - Sad and gloomy Souls
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12 loveblossom
December 31, 2016 at 10:12 PM
This episode was the best one yet. Plot was moving well and tons of information were revealed. There was more humor too.
Reaper and Shin's strut in the tunnel was freaking hilarious!!
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drRedRabbit
January 2, 2017 at 1:31 AM
I agree with you, this episode is indeed the best one yet, more story and more interesting than the past episodes
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13 bytme
December 31, 2016 at 10:15 PM
That eunuch was really too scary! The young king and queen actors are quite compelling in their cameo appearances. Although the events in the past were unfortunate, the tone of the episode still seemed kind of light overall. That's kind of an interesting tone.
I finally got to see Gong Yoo's kissing skill in action again in this episode teehee. I am a viewer that couldn't care less abut the age gap; I care more about chemistry. The chemistry between KS and JET...they have some intense lines between/about each other, but unless it's accompanied by wistful cinematography, they are not...alluring. I'm guessing this might be due to the age of JET's character or that they are a destined pairing so that kind of chemistry doesn't need to exist. "Adult feels" are quite subdued for the lead pair. The young king and queen and especially their reincarnated adult counterparts tho...teehee.
Gosh, I hope GR and Sunny kiss and make up next week.
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Sixtyone
January 1, 2017 at 6:20 AM
Me too, Me too... Can't wait GR and Sunny kissing scene.
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14 dramaaddict
December 31, 2016 at 10:17 PM
so many theories that i enjoy reading, but i like Goblin in his green cable knit sweater the best (when he patted Euntak's hair), looks so good and comfortable!
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light
January 1, 2017 at 9:52 PM
Yes! Gong Yoo looks so warm and cuddly in any sweater and coats that I cannot help but think that it will be very comfortable to be in his arms.
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celine
January 2, 2017 at 9:55 PM
His coats (basically all his clothes) in this drama are so damn expensive and designer ones. I read that Goblin fashion is now a trend and that the coats worn in the drama are in demand and a lot of them have yet to be launched in Korea.
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15 yoadrian
December 31, 2016 at 10:20 PM
Only have mega love for this episode.
Mom's best friend who's like an angel to Eun tak, Goblin's broom handle fight, Aunt's buuurn scene. And um, pojangmacha first kiss.
Mad adult king, scary eunuch( when he said how dare you I wanted to crawl under my bed and hide). But awww, Grandpa.
The funniest slo mo tunnel scene.
I wish they had a Goblin-Reaper high five just like Ron Burgundy and friends.
Laughing and crying with this one, you know?
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annie
December 31, 2016 at 10:51 PM
Totally agree with all your favorite moments. This was such a great episode!
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chingu
December 31, 2016 at 11:17 PM
they didn't high five, but apparently made a x cross with the green onions! https://www.instagram.com/p/BOl0ELNAbaO/?taken-by=goblin.drama&hl=en lawl, so lame.
omg, i was sooooooo shocked when i saw mom's photo w/ the ghost friend. what a sweet surprise that was! so touching, too.
loved the pojangmacha kiss! it was ~so romantic~~~!
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chingu
December 31, 2016 at 11:18 PM
nvm, i'm blind. they're just using their arms, which is not as cool, but it's still funny.
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Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 5:12 AM
I find it quite funny that goblins are supposed to turn into brooms but Shin with a broom/mop handle wielded like a sword swept those guys away!!! :D Great broom, that goblin!
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Sixtyone
January 1, 2017 at 6:27 AM
I never know that broomstick and leeks can be that cool!
Can you imagine that leeks look so stunning on their hands?
And...even broomstick look so damn awesome with Gong Yoo.
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sooyeon
January 1, 2017 at 9:19 AM
i repeated that broom handle fight so many times! KS just looks so cool in it!
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16 Beesuzie
December 31, 2016 at 10:21 PM
Fellow beanies, please don't hate me, but I wish the leads were Reaper and Sunny. Their story has so much already, more than the Goblin and Eun Tak. They have the Goryeo background, the more interesting story about being reincarnated, trying to recover lost memories, being a reaper and wondering if he is allow to love, Sunny being Goblin's sister and reaper being the one that kill her... I mean so much!
Ugh I really would like to get into the main couple storyline, but Reaper is stealing the show, at least for me. Again, do not hate me specially those hardcore Goblins and Eun Tak fans ☹️
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annie
December 31, 2016 at 10:55 PM
No hate here, although I'm loving both couples equally. I don't think that Reaper-Sunny are being shafted in any way, though; they get a pretty decent chunk of screentime in later episodes. And ep 10 begins and ends with them.
Personally I really enjoy the story between all four of them and I feel like it would be much less fun to have just one of the couples - either one. Because apart from the romantic relationships I also really get a kick out of all the other dynamics (Reaper-Goblin, Reaper-Euntak, Euntak-Sunny).
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Xtina
December 31, 2016 at 11:26 PM
Don't worry, I feel like there's a lot of people that are also more taken with the Reaper x Sunny storyline than Goblin x Eun Tak. I love Goblin and Eun Tak's individual characters so much but something about the age difference is still bugging. I feel like its hard to differentiate Goblin acting like a guardian/father vs boyfriend/lover. Some of his actions towards Eun Tak makes me feel weird because its reminiscent of things fathers would do.
Mostly I'm watching the show for the really great storyline, actors and Reaper x Sunny.
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Beesuzie
January 1, 2017 at 12:53 AM
" I feel like its hard to differentiate Goblin acting like a guardian/father vs boyfriend/lover." Yes. I think I feel the same way. It doesn't help that Eun Tak keeps calling him ajusshi and that the show keeps reminding us too. The last episode was a bit weird when Goblin and Reaper were sitting together Eun Tak and DH fighting over the camera, and he says that kids do make the house feel livelier or something like that. That to me came off as a father type and then they have them kissed in this episode? These tonal splits for me are so jarring, and I get weirded out, and it's what you said I couldn't tell whether the writer wants me to care about gobbling and Eun Tak as guardian/father or boyfriend/lover. But other than this, I'm enjoying the show for Goblin, Reaper, and sunny. I guess that is what people say art and tastes are very subjective ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
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blu
January 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM
I'll be honest I also like the 2nd couple more. Though I noticed that I was the same in Descendants of the Sun (despite being a huge Song Joongki fan) so is this something to do with the writer Kim Eun-Sook? Because I know DOTS also had a fair share of people who liked the 2nd couple more, and that also seems to be the case with Goblin. The writer just makes the 2nd couple so lovely you can't help root for them.
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Seri
January 2, 2017 at 3:34 PM
I feel exactly the same way. And then when Gong Yoo swooped in for his famous kissing skills and she was there like a wet salmon. My paedo chills just made me feel gross. I can't get on their supposed romance.
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slvr1
January 1, 2017 at 12:33 AM
I agree with you 110%. I adore their love-line very much. I sometimes think it would have made for a good comedy-drama if Sunny and Goblin fought over Grims. :P
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ultramafic
January 1, 2017 at 2:37 AM
I am totally with you! I fast forward through all the goblin/ET scenes now and just read them in the recaps. I like them both as actors but can't, no matter how hard I try, feel any romantic or sexual chemistry between them. I love the concept of an immortal who falls in love with the only one who can end his life, and I am almost angry that it is wasted on such bland chemistry. I feel uncomfortable watching their "cutesy" scenes, cause he acts like an older brother or even sometimes father. The actors say the lines and try their best but it falls flat. I even felt more spark for the two or three scenes she had with Tae Hee! What's more is even the most mundane bromance moments between Reaper/Goblin move me more than any dramatic love scene between the leads. Gah.
I'm hoping as we get further into the background plot ET will take a back seat and we can focus on Goblin/Sunny/Reaper. Maybe ET can go away to college and wait for Goblin to meet up w her again in Canada in a couple decades. ?
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 7:24 AM
That is exactly why I love Goblin and Eun-tak's relationship. It's not a sexual romantic relationship. It's a love between a 900+ yrs old Goblin and his young bride to be.
Shin was hail as a protector of Goryeo in past life. There is no mention of him having a wife so he never love a woman before beside his sister.
It's very fitting that he is more of Eun-tak's protector. AT the same time he is growing to love her romantically for the first time in his entire life.
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secondwind
January 1, 2017 at 8:43 AM
I agree. How many times has Shin said he's not looking for someone pretty. It's a soft, warm, embracing love that makes sense for this couple. I felt it so strongly in this episode, like being wrapped in a big down comforter. The chemistry is there, it's just not fireworks.
I love Reaper and Sunny so much, but they work as part of the bigger picture not as a stand alone couple. And right now they don't have fireworks chemistry either. They definitely had it as kids though.
So we get to see all kind of love on display here and I'm enjoying them all.
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secondwind
January 1, 2017 at 9:03 AM
When I say that we get to see diffrent kinds of love on display here, I'm including Goblin and Reaper's bromance, Goblin's love for his sister, Grandpa, the King. There are so many ways to feel and express love.
Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 9:25 AM
Right, there is something for everyone. Reaper and Sunny were married in their past life. They lived as husband and wife. I'd expect a more sexual romantic type of relationship from them.
Shin may have lived for 900+yrs but he is just as clueless as Eun-tak when it comes to romance. It's progressing in a slow base because it's pretty much awkward how they got together as bride and groom before the romance. In our world it's the other way around.
Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM
I swear if the main couples relationship was all sexy and romantic some will still complain about it.
secondwind
January 1, 2017 at 9:43 AM
The more I think about different ways to love the more I see how this drama really works with them and weaves them all together. Everything's connected by love and the actions and consequences that result.
Samshin Grandma's love is why she tells Eun-tak's mother to ask for help from the gods when in need. Eun-tak's mother's love is the reason she calls to the gods to save her. The Goblin's love of humanity, is why he answers her mother's call to the gods for help. Samshin Grandma's love for the Goblin is why she made Eun-tak his Bride.
But not just the main characters. The ghost that watched over Eun-tak because of the love she felt for her mother. The little boy who first served Goblin because of love for his Grandpa.
It goes on and on.
Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 10:04 AM
@secondwind
Agreed!
I'm feeling the motherly love from Samshin towards Eun-tak but she's a bit cold when it comes to Goblin.
She was the happiest when she created Eun-tak which leads to Goblin asking "Am I not your child too?" Then he is told that he has lived long enough.
Doesn't he deserve to be happy too or is his punishment endless?
heradom
January 1, 2017 at 6:50 PM
Actually this discussion between secondwind and kiara has really clarified what I feel about the main couple- I actually do love them very much, was feeling a bit strange about them only because it's so unconventional but their relationship is really like that big comforter- very apt description
Katrine Møller Jensen
January 2, 2017 at 10:30 AM
Yes to this, so much.
kei
January 1, 2017 at 12:08 PM
it wasn't that people want SEXUAL between Goblin and Euntak,
it just not believable that they are a couple that love or even like each other,
it more like 2 people who get told to like each other and they don't hate each other so they tolerate each other without any love feeling,
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secondwind
January 1, 2017 at 2:35 PM
It's the classic "contract" marriage turned on it's head. It's even expanded to include Goblin and Reaper. This writer is awesome when it comes to taking the standard tropes and making them fresh.
Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 3:46 PM
Yes, many arranged marriages/match-made couples are in the same boat as Shin and Eun Tak. They need to take the time to go through and back and forth different permutations on what it is to be in a relationship that ultimately is meant to bring new life to both. I that process of discovering how to be in that relationship by two newbies, pretty romantic.
Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 5:09 PM
* I like that process...*
nomad
January 2, 2017 at 6:30 PM
@kei you must've not ever met anyone who's in an arranged marriage like growing beautifully mentioned. I like how this drama explores many different kinds of love, and that no love is greater than others. It's different, and many get there by different reasons or ways, but it's love nevertheless.
It's what kdrama is about, at least for me. Being able to explore different thoughts that I didn't think about before. I was never a fan of KES before, but boy does this drama changed my mind about her.
Peppa
January 2, 2017 at 7:09 AM
Your comment was spot on! I like Eun tak and Shin's relationship as it is now and it's cuter when Shin squeals more than Eun tak, as if he was the girl in this romance. Their second kiss was not the same as that in other dramas (i.e. more serious) but it was definitely a sweet and heartwarming gesture fit for our buckwheat couple.
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chingu
January 2, 2017 at 9:33 PM
But as Eun-tak said, their "first kiss" was merely a peck on the lips–in slow motion! It was frantically done by Eun-tak as a last resort because she couldn't pull the sword. It didn't have any romantic feelings behind it. I'm not counting that one, so to me, the pojangmacha kiss was their first, and it was sweet and cute–just like them! And the fact that Eun-tak went in for another quick kiss was just so adorable.
I love it when Shin flails over Eun-tak, too! They're just so adorable. I can't wait to see more romancin' and of course, more kisses! I'm hopeful that we'll get more passionate smooches in the upcoming episodes. Hee.
Y
January 2, 2017 at 10:00 PM
I rewatched the scenes of ET and KS again since several people adamantly said that they can't feel the romance and I still found those scenes to be beautiful and I think each lines have very deep meaning...if you're still curious on the analysis of ET and KS love story, I would recommend that you go to soompi and read the analysis from pacmule3 page 510. The patting, the longing look, the less skinship, the less handholding has meaning...it's strange but beautiful love story...
Y
January 1, 2017 at 12:05 PM
I actually feel the romance between ET and KS and I found it interesting and unique that this show use a lot of head patting to show care and love. This is a love story between goblin and a human so I think we have to be open to how romance is defined and where the writer wants to take us. I would hope that nobody skip the ET and KS screen time since they will miss out on what the writer is trying to tell us in this story and would be dissapointed at the end due to missing important part of the show.
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anrytoma
January 1, 2017 at 6:37 PM
Totally agree with you.
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fgb4877
January 1, 2017 at 1:07 PM
Dear Beanies, what we are experiencing is a surprising by-product of an outstanding world creation. This imaginary world is so rich that all main characters are equally interesting. So as much as I love both Reaper and Sunny, I still find Eun Tak and Shin as compelling.
A thing this show is delivering me is some Sunny/Shin sibling akwardess and bickering. It is proof again of how interesting this world is as to have the possibility to do that.
And I don't find Shin - Eun Tak relationship icky at all, for we are so many things to so many people at different moments. Sometimes we could be our girlfriend's lover, our girlfriend's friend and sometiems we could even clash and being that idiot.
Also, there is nothing wrong in finding love with someone not your age. As far as sex goes, if the lady is legal, responsible (level headed) and willing I have no problem. But for a serious relationship I would like for a more independent woman. As a good plus I would look for an University graduate, so if something happens to me she could be still able to have a good standard of living and able to provide education to our hipotetic children.
Going back to Shin, his comment that children sure makes home more lively was sarcasm on one hand, and a recurring joke as Goblin/Reaper behaving like an old couple.
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shoppingking
January 1, 2017 at 2:33 PM
Don't worry, I've seen from reading the comment section every week that most people prefer Reaper and Sunny. I personally love Goblin and Eun-tak separately, and their interactions with other characters are always great, but with each other? I don't even have an issue with the age difference anymore, it just feels like there's something missing. I think it's because I never really understood when and why Shin fell in love with Eun-tak, and vice versa. Their relationship still feels very instalove-y.
Aside from everyone, I'd just rather see all four characters together. The "kinda but not really" double date this week was so cute!
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endo
January 1, 2017 at 5:43 PM
You love the 2nd couple because they have 900 year old backstory. You want to have a closure on their tragedies that neither of them caused. So you are kind of of excited that they finally have a second chance at love.
Let's be honest here. The reaper and Sunny don't have chemistry too. It was just passed down (psychologically) by the Young King and Queen. They are the cute ones here. Lol.
The Goblin and ET love line works for me. Very simple but i adore their interactions. Maybe some people don't like them because it was not build up really well. Like that typical stalker chaebol who constantly grabbed the hands of the helpless lead girl.
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Raptor
January 2, 2017 at 3:22 AM
Nope, it has nothing to do the 900 year backstory between Kim Sun and the Grim Reaper. I respectfully disagree. It really is the chemistry between the characters and actors. Personally, KGE just doesn't work for me, either due to the way the director/ writers want to portray her, or the actress's choice of what she understands about acting and her role. I'm getting so tired of watching her switch from the spiteful, petty brat to, very suddenly, a lovey dovey teen who just grins so widely (to me, it's really so fake and plastic). And it happens A LOT. That takes me away from the main loveline quite severely. Their interactions are a waste of time IMHO, because nothing much changes - it's just them trying to act cute with their bickering - and they are filled with senseless flashbacks.
I haven't started fast-forwarding like others have, but I can understand why they can't tolerate it as well. You can argue that ET is just a teen, but even in the flash forward when she's 29, the way she flashes her pearly whites while just waiting for whoever she's waiting for, irks me just the same. Like I said, it's a personal opinion, and I haven't watched anything the actress was in before (but then again, I've also watched very little of the other actors), but the few people I speak to about the drama share the same views. It really could be a writer/ director's problem, but when the other actors smile (like Kim So Hyun in her cameo here) I can feel their genuine warmth and them being in their roles, unlike KGE.
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endo
January 2, 2017 at 4:24 PM
Well, the way you said it. You just don't like Kim Go Eun. Because even the way she smiles irks you. I would've understood it if you just dislike the character. Tbh, it's the first time i've heard such comment. Maybe because i never dislike a person without a reason. And i never disliked an actor because of the character they played. Lol.
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zanearaki
January 2, 2017 at 9:30 PM
Endo, unfortunately I'm on the same boat with Raptor. And I believe it wasn't due to my dislike for the actress. I didn't have a problem with Go Eun's acting on CITT, but I realized that I couldn't enjoy her performance in Goblin.
I think I had a clear reason why I couldn't. To me, the way Go Eun acts her character felt unnatural and somehow cringey. Her interaction with Goblin doesn't even help. I really had a hard time connecting with her character, and therefore I dropped the show.
I believe Go Eun can act, but maybe she missed the nuance of the character's portrayal. Or could be the decent character writing.
Whatever it is, I will still definitely watch her on a new project. I really enjoy her acting on CITT and I believe she's also doing a good job on her movie performances.
endo
January 3, 2017 at 8:39 AM
@Zane Araki
I'm not generalizing everyone. People have difference in opinions
It was what Raptor said that caught me "the way she flashes her pearly whites while just waiting for whoever she’s waiting for, irks me just the same"
So i feel like she just doesn't like the character. She dislike the person. How can you dislike somebody who's just smiling? LOL.
Raptor
January 8, 2017 at 1:22 AM
Again, you choose to take my words out of context. By now, I shouldn't be surprised. I've mentioned in other threads that I've enjoyed KGE's scenes with the other characters. I was genuinely touched by her reunion scene with Sunny, and there she was smiling as well, but IT WORKED - I sensed the genuine bond between the two. It's mainly when she is in those aegyo scenes with Shin that I get disconnected from ET. And I am definitely not the only one who has such a comment, but you choose to, together with fellow KGE/ JET supporters, claim that those of us commenting here about her are all 'the same person'. So it's really not ME here. Perhaps it's just you who can't accept that people are allowed not to favour an actor's portrayal of a certain character.
Raptor
January 8, 2017 at 1:28 AM
And you also need to read what you have typed here. You are blatantly telling others who prefer the Reaper/ Sunny loveline to Shin/ ET that they like the two only because of their 900-year-old backstory, and telling them that these two characters have no chemistry. You are explicitly stating your own bias against them, yet can't accept that for us, we don't feel that same lack of chemistry for Shin and ET as well. I find that really hypocritical.
light
January 1, 2017 at 10:00 PM
To tell you the truth, this drama became much more interesting when I decided to fast forward through Eun Tak and Shin's scenes. I have decided that Eun Tak's lovey dovey scenes or revelations about the prophecy and their fate will be made known to me through dramabeans.
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elle cat
January 2, 2017 at 1:34 AM
I totally agree with you :( if I ranked all the lovelines GR and sunny is my number 1, my second would be the bromantic immortals and third will be the main couple
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17 koolsuni
December 31, 2016 at 10:22 PM
Kim Minjae's face is something to behold.
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maya2825
January 1, 2017 at 12:41 AM
Agree. I don't really appreciate him in RDTK (and now I'm gonna have to!) but here, he's so pretty! *heart eyes*
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lunatic4kd
January 1, 2017 at 1:18 AM
Yes, isn't that the truth?!!!! Minjae is killing his role in Romantic Doctor Kim as ER Nurse Park....he's a fine young actor with a face and screen presence destined for leading man roles.
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RLD
January 2, 2017 at 12:06 AM
Thank You for mentioning that Nurse Park and the young King are the same actor! Every time I watch either show and see his face I wonder where I've seen this actor before? Goodness Gracious, he's awfully pretty.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:10 AM
He kinda looks like Yoo Jin Goo.
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loveblossom
January 1, 2017 at 9:12 AM
He is cute! I first saw his acting in RDTK, but I'm glad to see more of him in this drama too. A very compelling role.
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light
January 1, 2017 at 10:03 PM
This boy has such great chemistry with Kim So Hyun. It will be a pretty partnership in another sageuk in the future I hope. The one with the blind hero that is in the works? Or the mute hero?
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18 halfmoon
December 31, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Happy new year, Beanies !
Thanks for the recap!
I think that the scene where Deok-hwa spoke to his company employee was quite important. He dropped a few hints, in my opinion, strengthening the speculation that he isn't just a mere human being.
I loved the Goryo scenes. There might not have been much advancement in the storyline, from them, but they were quite interesting and heartbreaking. I'm now more invested in the Goblin-Reaper-Sun(ny) storyline...
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19 camillecee
December 31, 2016 at 10:28 PM
To be honest, I am kinda disappointed with this episode. We didn't get much plot development here. We only confirmed what's been obviously implied 4 to 5 episodes ago.
I wish the plot where Euntak gets in dangerous peril if she doesn't do what she's destined to do (aka pull the sword) starts getting into more detail next episode. I also like the theories surrounding Deokhwa. Here's to hoping we get more information about it next episode.
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20 Lessa
December 31, 2016 at 10:29 PM
Happy New Year Beanies!!! ????
Can anyone confirm if prices for leeks skyrocketed in Korea? ? ?
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:11 AM
Lmao!
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21 koolsuni
December 31, 2016 at 10:29 PM
Seeing Grim in his current state all childlike and kind of naive makes more sense now that we know that he as a King grew up under the eunuch. I have no doubt the king never got to act or think like an adult around him. So when the bitterness and jealousy is washed away, that leaves behind the child that never got to properly grow up in an adults body.
The sageuk parts are my favourite currently. I really hope Kim Min Jae and Kim So Hyun get to film something together because they're chemistry is fantastic, even better if its a sageuk!
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secretdream
January 1, 2017 at 12:52 AM
soo true~ kim minjae and kim sohyun scene seem like from another drama, their chemistry is sooo great
i hope kim sohyun and kim minjae have a drama together later on, to make up for their tragic love story in Goblin
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22 DaehanMingukManse
December 31, 2016 at 10:31 PM
Ah... grandpa is blessed.
Few people have that bless--to know when your time in life has end--only happen to them whose lives on earth bring more positive n happiness means to another.
I knew several people--some personally, others by acquintances--who have that bless. It's always fascinates me that before their time end they would make themselves looked the best, sorted out their businesses and lie down waiting. In the face of death, they didn't deterred, such blessing such live.
Btw that white coat ET wore, I think I've seen it too. On Shin Mina when she go exercising w/ the boys in OMV. And on Jeon Ji Hyun when she go to ice resort with LMH for the first time. Is it another sponsor too, like Subway? Hehe
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:14 AM
Plus, when he's actually dead, he can still interact with his "Nari" and ask for some favors if he still has some unfinished business he needs to sort out. Talk about lucky!
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23 lindl
December 31, 2016 at 10:41 PM
I did not expect to see Lee Dong-wook as Wang Yeo. For some reason I assumed that it would be Kim Min-jae all the way. That last shot of Lee Dong-wook has already made 2017 for me ?
I loved it when Goblin insisted that Reaper was probably his sister. "Are you being loved?" ?
I am also getting really fond of the casually romantic exchanges between Goblin and Eun-tak. They talk about the love between them like they're talking about the weather. It's very sweet in its own way.
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24 Myka
December 31, 2016 at 10:42 PM
How does the jade ring fit into all this? Hmm...
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annie
December 31, 2016 at 10:50 PM
I'm assuming it was a gift from Yeo to Sun, which she took off once he turned against her and sentenced Shin to death. There's that scene (yesterday?) where he sees it in her box and forces her to put it back on. Curious that Shin didn't recognize it, which I guess means the only time she wore it in his presence was when she died (he obviously had too much on his mind to notice it then).
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Aqee
January 1, 2017 at 11:59 AM
Shin probably didn't notice the jade ring because it was a gift from the king to his queen.
Although i agreed too many flashback involving the jade ring..its bound to have a special story of its own.
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Bobbie
January 1, 2017 at 5:35 PM
I actually think that Shin gave Sun the ring and Yeo, having been poisoned against Shin, was angry about that, which is why we had the scene of the young king being angry at Sun for having it (I thought the scene showed Yeo going through her jewellery box and throwing it on the ground when he found it, not wanting her to have it). Plus Sun wore it when she greeted Shin one last time, at her death.
The hand that put the ring on Goryeo Sun's finger also looked like Gong Yoo's, so I speculate that Shin gave her the ring, perhaps as part of a dowager gift. However, Shin didn't recognise it when Sunny held it up, or when Grims shoved it in his face, so... Maybe I should re-watch it lol.
OR maybe Deok-hwa the Almighty (fan-theory that DH is the ultimate butterfly/god) gave it to her lol.
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endo
January 1, 2017 at 5:44 PM
But how come Shin didn't recognize it?
Bobbie
January 1, 2017 at 8:48 PM
@endo, that's what threw me off, too. Perhaps he didn't recognise it because he wasn't paying attention? The first time, when Sunny flashed the ring, he was trying to appease ET's jealous glares. The second time, he pretty much glanced past it because he was rolling his eyes at Grims, assuming GR was saying he was his sister.
I could just be completely off the mark though :/
Napkiin
January 1, 2017 at 12:12 PM
I think Wang Yeo gave the ring to Sun as a gift from the flashback in ep 9...
Though I was expecting garakji (2 rings that the husbands give to their wives) since usually men give it to the women they're about to marry. The ring Sun is wearing is just a panji (single ring worn by single women)... then again this was from the Joseon dynasty not Goryeo lol
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25 boing
December 31, 2016 at 10:43 PM
Park Joong-Won is not an eunuch. He has beard.
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Napkiin
January 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM
Eunuchs can have beards, it depends on when they were castrated. If they were castrated before puberty then no, if after then yes.
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annie
January 1, 2017 at 6:32 PM
Interesting. And not something I ever imagined I'd learn from kdramas haha.
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26 Lord Cobol
December 31, 2016 at 10:52 PM
Thru my New Year's Eve soju-haze, I can't help but wonder --
what happens if a reaper gets a death card while his hat is at the dry cleaners ??
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dramaaddict
December 31, 2016 at 11:04 PM
So i wasn't the only one with this question... I suppose he has more than one hat! (judging by the number of outfits and coats he has...)
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memyselfandi
January 1, 2017 at 5:16 AM
I had this question too. Assumed he has days off. The grim reapers seem to be well regulated.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:02 PM
Lmao! I'm sure they get their death cards in advance and they go to have their hats dry cleaned on days they don't have deaths as impossible as it sounds. But I can totally imagine reaper scrambling to get his hat when he's "late for work" lol! That'd be a sight to behold!
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Nana
January 1, 2017 at 3:48 PM
I am more amazed that the 'dry cleaner' actually exist. Such powerful hat being serviced by a regular human? A boost to the local business i guess.
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27 Mandy
December 31, 2016 at 10:53 PM
Two things. I think the secretary Kim is relation to the men who put the sword. It is the hoobae reaper that is bad guy. Remember he was so good at Brown nosing.
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hazelnutmoccalatte
January 1, 2017 at 4:24 PM
+1
I had thought about this, too.
Both men are Shin's confindant. But Shin can't see people's past life, so there's no way Shin could possibly know who Secretary Kim was in his past life (well... Unless he asks Grim's help for a background check LOL)
He must've seen someone trustful worth investing in when he saw Secretary Kim previously, just like the boy in Paris. But it would be a nice surprise if Secretary Kim is indeed Shin's aide from the Goryeo times ^^
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Bobbie
January 1, 2017 at 5:37 PM
YES! I was also thinking maybe hoobae reaper is the eunuch. He definitely committed sins deserving of a reaper status, and how fitting that once again he is sucking up to our Reaper Yeo. But thankfully, this time, Reaper is in charge :)
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28 bytme
December 31, 2016 at 10:53 PM
I forgot to say I love the coats on this show. Wonder why a poor girl like JET has so many coats tho? Perhaps, KS bought them for her?
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bbstl
December 31, 2016 at 11:21 PM
Yeah, not only that but the clothes, too. I've been watching a PBS marathon this weekend and looking over this episode's screencaps reminds me that the Goblin characters change clothes even more than the people in Downtown Abbey.
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bbstl
January 1, 2017 at 1:01 PM
I feel honor bound (don't I even sound like I've just spent two days watching PBS?) to say that autocorrect changed the above from DownTON Abbey, hmph!
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Kiara
December 31, 2016 at 11:40 PM
All hail to PPL.
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LeenieWeenieChileBeanie
January 1, 2017 at 12:12 AM
Do you know which drama has off the hook coats? Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo! She's the one who's supposed to be poor, yet she has a new, and even more fantastic coat in every scene. At least Eun Tak has a fabulously wealthy boyfriend/goblin/husband? to gift her with a new wardrobe (since all she came with was the clothes on her back).
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chingu
January 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM
man, i want a ~fabulously~ wealthy husband, too. or gong yoo.
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sooyeon
January 1, 2017 at 9:25 AM
i second that..
a girl can always dream.. right? :D
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29 gem28
December 31, 2016 at 10:54 PM
I have realized one thing from this episode. I care about each characters and their interactions to each other but I really do not care enough about our central pair that is Kim Shin and Eun Tak. I didn't mind the Goryeo story line and focus on Sunny/GR or Wang Yeo/Kim Sun in Goryeo. They were bursting with chemistry but with Eun Tak and Goblin, I feel they are cute but no way do I care for their epic love. I don't know why I find the central romance rather lackluster when I like the actors and their characters individually but together, nothing.
I also hope to see focus on Deok Hwa, grandpa, Sunny and red lady in the coming episodes and more of Kim Sun in Goryeo. I really hope we get that.
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lolalarue
December 31, 2016 at 11:03 PM
YES! I agree. It's not even that they are bad together. I quite like them together but I just don't feel they have any sexual/romantic chemistry. It would've made more sense if she'd been his reincarnated daughter/sister. I totally feel that fondness coming through but not romantic love.
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Katrine
January 1, 2017 at 1:09 AM
I absolutely adore them together. I agree that their chemistry is very sweet and pure instead of sexual, but I do think it's very romantic. I don't get why people aren't feeling it, I'm SO invested in these two.
I think they're keeping the chemistry innocent for now because of Eun Tak's age - some people are already complaining about the age gap, so they have to keep the interactions earnest and innocent, focused on the deep, fated love, instead of Shin wanting to make out with her.
I think their chemistry will change as Eun Tak ages, though. Remember the buckwheat flowers meaning "lover"? But they had to make the relationship rooted in love and fate first, rather than sex.
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gem28
January 1, 2017 at 2:20 AM
I agree its pure and innocent but the things is I still don't know why I particularly don't feel it. Its not lust or sexual chemistry that I am seeking. I visually see it yet can't feel it and it has nothing to do with the two actors, they are perfect as it is.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:20 AM
I agree, I'm already very satisfied with the warm & fuzzy feels between them. Plus, you can't expect a hot & sensual feel right away, it'll feel forced & unnatural.
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 1:36 AM
That's what you should expect from the lustful Sunny (according to the shaman).
I think Kim Eun-sook is playing it safe with Goblin and his pride since their first official kiss happened when she turned 20 (legal).
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Samantha Reed
January 1, 2017 at 12:27 PM
I think the writer might have been influenced by all the complains that the show was promoting "lolita" themes because of the age difference between Kim Shin and Eun Tak. So she's keeping things sweet and cute between them to avoid a backlash
However, I've noticed another thing. Kim Shin in his Goryeo days seemed like a very serious, focused general. For him, it seemed, the most important thing was to serve the Kings of Goryeo and protect the Goryeo nation. He devoted his last breath to Goryeo and even gave his beloved sister away in marriage because that was what the late king wanted. So as serious and focused on his mission as he was, I doubt he had any spare time for romance. So, the point I am trying to make is that even though Kim Shin is older and more experienced in some thing, when it comes to romance and love, he's very much at the same level as Eun Tak. She's the first woman he has ever loved in almost 1000 years, so all is new and foreign to him as well.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:06 PM
?totally agree! Not to mention, even among adults who are of similar age tend to be reduced to be silly kids when they're in love. So I don't have any complaints with the current dynamics of their romance as of now.
fgb4877
January 1, 2017 at 5:43 PM
Dear Kiara, of course it would be interesting to know Scholar Park's story, if only that screen time wouldn't be taken from main plot/main character development!.
Power corrupts people. Absolute power like in a medieval monarchy even more than nowadays (except in the case of dictators).
Imagine a person very far from the power center that doesn't even dreams to become part of a power structure suddenly in the center of the country. Imagine that person having unfulfilled dreams and several ideas about how to"improve" the country. Then that person has the possibility to influence a future king, not only by giving him education but also by forming his worldview and his value system... if not for the pesky conservative people around him too afraid to give the necessary steps to make revolution possible...
Then you have it. A normal but capable person with good intentions but not prepared to confront himself to that augmenting mirror that is power, starts to bend his values and himself little by little in order to achieve his goals.
That is why I am so fond of Pepe Mujica even if I am at odds with his ideology and his world view: after he was the president of Uruguay, he returned to the little villa he has with his run down VW Scarab. In Latin America that is highly unusual.
fgb4877
January 1, 2017 at 5:47 PM
Sorry!!!, this post was sopposed to be somewhere else.
Anyway, referring to your point, aren't we sometimes fools when in love?. It happened to me to rediscover the wide-eyed wonder and freshness of life then. :)
Raptor
January 2, 2017 at 3:29 AM
The reunion scene between Eun Tak and Sunny touched me so much more than the main loveline. It's very icky to me still.
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30 Lord Cobol
December 31, 2016 at 10:55 PM
Hmmm.... is it cheaper and easier to train Kim So-hyun to walk without dropping those bowls off her shoulders, or to glue two bowls on to a spare outfit?
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memyselfandi
January 1, 2017 at 5:18 AM
Yes! My thought as well.
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31 Just_Alee
December 31, 2016 at 10:56 PM
I supposed that the eunuch also becoming grim reaper because of his sins, right?? :s
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bbstl
December 31, 2016 at 11:24 PM
Wow, excellent question! He should be a Reaper for all eternity.
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Just_Alee
January 1, 2017 at 2:28 AM
He should!! I mean.. He poisoned the entire royal families, manipulated a young boy/king to kill officials, his loyal general and his queen... If Wang Yeo is doomed to become Grim Reaper, why is it that eunuch Park can get a reincarnation?? It is not fair... Imo...
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:23 AM
Good point! It would've been more fair if the manipulator gets punished us a reaper, not the manipulated.
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kbears
January 1, 2017 at 9:38 AM
or not.. he should go to eternal damnation the day he died.
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32 lolalarue
December 31, 2016 at 11:00 PM
I have to be honest and say the romance between Goblin/Eun Tak just isn't working for me. All the ingredients are there but it's just not cooking for me. I do love the makeshift family that they've created. It's amazing and I want it forever but I'm not falling in love with Goblin and Bride. It's missing something for me.
Goblin/Reaper continue to be a highlight. And how awesome is the Goryeo story? So awesome.
I'm now convinced Deok Hwa is something mystical. All the speculations have gotten to me.
Glad we had a break from will they won't they. I did bawl when Eun Tak's ghost friend was her guardian angel.
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Tou
January 1, 2017 at 5:22 AM
Same, I am not feeling the love between Goblin and ET. The awkward way he pats her head feels like an uncle patting a little girl or worse a pet, not helping the love line at all. This is the first show which i fast forward scenes between the OTP. I heart the bromance and the back story though and those are the only things keeping me on the show.
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kimchikay
January 1, 2017 at 8:21 PM
I agree…I'm not sure what it is really..might be that we got the realization of ET being "goblin bride" and the reason for her "fated" meeting with Goblin very early on. I just cannot feel the love or affection between them.
In my opinion, I think it happened too soon and didn't allow for main couple to build some tension with each other. I also really don't understand why ET had to be a high school student (yes, I'm still bugged by the age gap). There's so many ways the female character could have been in her 20's and written as a "candy" character.
I think it would have been really cool if ET's character was actually a female professional in her 20's or 30's. Maybe a chef that's down on her luck and is trying to perfect a fried chicken recipe but is in debt because her failed restaurant endeavors. Ends up joining Sunny's restaurant and meeting the Goblin. Lots of opportunities to summon Goblin-nim because our chef works with smoke/fire like all the time. Grumpy goblin-nim's heart melts with ET's smoking fried chicken recipe…oh and she's always losing her expensive knife set and threatens Goblin she'll take his sword whenever she needs it. My version of ET would have a bit more dry humor lol.
Yes, I've got a wild imagination.
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Raptor
January 2, 2017 at 3:33 AM
I've mentioned it elsewhere in replies to others, but I think it's the actress's choice of portrayal and delivery too. Her attempts to switch between petty brat and act cutesy mode are grating especially because they happen so frequently.
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Petmink
January 2, 2017 at 5:23 AM
I like your alternate version. The main couple isn't working for me either. I felt like I missed the process of them falling in love. It feels like they like each other because they are supposed to.
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DramaNinja
January 2, 2017 at 11:00 AM
I differ in the opinion that Goblin and ET lack chemistry. I adore these two and feel that their love line is endearing and poetic in its own way and keeps it light. The Show has so many things to cover that the romance propotionally balanced well for me.
I comment here just to let you know that I love the plot you 'cooked up'. I see how plausible and sizzling your plot is too . ;)
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light
January 4, 2017 at 9:40 AM
I would love the Bride to have dry humour! Your character seems much more interesting! I want the Bride to be someone equal to the Goblin in professional strength. Romantically, each time they reach a milestone, the more prominent the sword becomes. That will be the time the Bride needs to pull the sword. An ultimate test. Sophie's Choice. We should start a thread on an alternate Bride and Goblin narrative.
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33 annie
December 31, 2016 at 11:02 PM
Man, this was such a great epsiode. I love how matter-of-fact Shin and Eun-tak are about how crazy they are about each other, like how they just low-key admit stuff and act like it's no big deal, but you can tell they're squeeing inside. I know not everyone is feeling this couple and I get it, but I'm really enjoying them. You can tell how HAPPY it makes them just to be breathing the same air, and that gives me more feels than sizzling sexual tension (though I won't say no to that either lol).
I'm disappointed in Shin for continuing to hide stuff from her though - he'd better fix that soon.
Can't wait to see Shin's first meeting with Sunny after learning her identity. And the fallout once he finds out Reaper is Yeo. Ahhhh how do I wait till next week?!
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rambutan
January 1, 2017 at 1:01 AM
If, as mentioned by someone before this post, Shin returned to the palace to protect his King after being revived as Goblin, on discovering Reaper's true identity, there won't be a fallout or confrontation. Shin would still want to protect his King (and sister). And make sure the two will have a happy ending this time. We are going to have a happy ending for both couples, Eun Sook style.
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annie
January 1, 2017 at 2:46 AM
True, after what we've learned in this episode it seems the revenge Shin sought was against PJW, not Yeo - or at least now that 900 years have passed, he has forgiven Yeo even if he was mad at the time. But there's definitely going to be fallout. How do you think Reaper is going to feel when he finds out he was the cause of all his new bestie's pain?
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:25 AM
True, if anything, I think Shin would try to repay the debt he thinks he owes them.
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Katrine
January 1, 2017 at 2:56 AM
YES, I agree with this so much. Eun Tak and Shin are genuinely happy in each others company, and it shows. Just look at the way they smiled at each other after the kiss. SQUEE! I'm so invested in them.
I do think there is a little bit of sexual tension though, now that I think about it - the look between them when he said that the flowers meant "lover", when she held his hand to write the hanja character, and then this episode when she held his hand again and blew on it. It's not actually sexual, but he is obviously affected by her touch :)
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Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 5:32 AM
+ 100
I never had a problem seeing and feeling that there was something between them as the grew in familiarity. Many times I find that kdrama boyfriends take care of their girlfriends also in a commanding big brother or fatherly way. In this couple, it seems to have become more obvious because of the age difference, and yet, there is something more beyond the innocence,... an awareness perhaps that being or having a bride means being in a couple relationship, therefore the innocence of now will not be forever.
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annie
January 1, 2017 at 2:50 PM
I agree with both of you! It's subtle, but the attraction is definitely there. Gong Yoo is doing a good job of showing that he's attracted to her but holding himself back/confused or embarrassed about skinship since he's basically a 900 year old virgin lol. And Eun-tak also definitely feels physical attraction too, but she's been hiding it/playing it off because she's felt from the beginning that he didn't find her pretty and was only with him because of the Goblin's Bride thing.
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leni1965
January 1, 2017 at 7:28 AM
I for one think that Shin and Eun Tak are cute together and i also am enjoying their togetherness. Their love is the kind that is innocent and pure so i don't really mind at all that we don't see any sizzling sexual tension on screen. I do wish that they could have chosen another actress to portray EK but since the casting has been done, not to mention we are more than halfway through the drama, then let us just sit back and enjoy the drama.
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Raptor
January 2, 2017 at 3:35 AM
Since you've also just stated that you wished another actress portrays ET, it means you're answering the question of why other viewers can't get into the loveline.
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34 Shin
December 31, 2016 at 11:24 PM
Wow, i've guessed that sunny is the queen for a while and i get quite impatient to see her interacting with goblin. I'm glad the last two eps have them meet and i even more glad that sunny and the queen are charasterically alike. Because my first impression to the queen from her little appearance in the first eps is that she must be someone wise and elegant and so queeny, quite different from what i got from sunny who is adorably absurd and so un-queeny. But then the queen care first about the king appearance before his character and i just thought that is very sunny. I'm also glad that this eps give more insight to the goryeo time and it just painfully beautiful how we see kim's sibling adorable interaction and also the king and queen, then we know how badly things are going to turn after that, thanks to the evil eunuch. It also pained me to see the later wang yeo looking so sad and old. He must be burdened by guilt for the rest of his life after the queen and kim shin execution, especially because there is real love from him to the queen
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:29 AM
Lol! So true. I remember Sunny's first scene with the Shaman, she was told to be wary of a man with a black hat, and her response was "is he handsome?" Haha!
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35 heradom
December 31, 2016 at 11:30 PM
Really liked this episode really even though on the face of it nothing much moves.
Goblin eun tak are actly really cute even though the process leading up to this moment isn't as organic as other normal pairings. I agree there's something off about their relationship but I guess it's within my acceptable range. The second kiss in the pogmancha scene was v cute!
Love the goryeo scenes- so movie-esque!!! And the back story to the king's hatred of ks is very believable and I'm glad we'll be having more scenes soon.
I wonder how everyone would eventually figure out our dear reaper is the king though- short of a God intervention no one would have a clue. Deok hwa be the God and come throughhhhhhh
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36 Sparky
December 31, 2016 at 11:35 PM
There was so much to love about this episode! The scene where Eun Tak discovers the truth about her ghostly friend and says good-bye, the last game Goblin played with the Chairman, the cool-man strut through the tunnel, Goblin impatiently waiting for a date, the hat made in Heaven-- so many gems that just made the show sparkle!
Grim and Goblin should never strut their stuff without a soundtrack. They're just too cool!
I had to laugh when he returned to Quebec City in flip-flops and it was still autumn there at the end of December. I love the Quebec scenes, though, especially since I was there this last October and saw the beautiful fall color and many of the places shown in this show. We came in on a cruise ship, just like the one you can see in the harbor when they're on the hill by the graves. I had to freeze that frame to see if it was the ship I was on. I don't think so, though. They filmed their scenes on a sunny day, and it was raining when I was there. Goblin was feeling sad.
The most shocking thing of this episode-- Goblin actually ate a vegetable!
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chingu
January 1, 2017 at 12:09 AM
"goblin was feeling sad" omg, awwwww! that was so cute. i love the canada scenes, too. when he realized he could be the one who gave her the necklace, i wondered if he meant he could create his own fate by gifting that necklace to her and making his way to that restaurant scene w/ her... but when he came back from buying the necklace from what looked like an outdoor, small business vendor and held a pink bag with a logo on it, i was like, tsk tsk ppl, that doesn't make sense! but since they didn't do a closeup on the brand, i guess that vendor just uses really fancy bags.
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dramaaddict
January 1, 2017 at 12:42 AM
I think the person Euntak is waiting for in the restaurant is actually Goblin after he became a person, or maybe he still has the sword stuck. She refers to the person as dae-pyo-nim, and Deok-hwa had mentioned that Goblin owns Grandpa's whole company. That is also why Goblin couldnt see himself, because he was outside the restaurant.
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Sixtyone
January 1, 2017 at 7:07 AM
That's what I am thinking about the CEO she's waiting. Could it be actually Kim Shin?
That could be the end of their story.
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 7:38 AM
Yea Shin is pretty much jealous of his future self. Obviously he didn't see the guy's face.
kethysk
January 1, 2017 at 1:22 PM
I laughed at the Quebec scene only because we (in the Ontario-Quebec regiona of Canada) are deeeeeeep deeeeeep in layers of cold snow in December ! LoL
It's clear they filmed all the Canadian scenes in Autumn, not Winter.
Still beautiful, though. I'm definitely not complaining
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:10 PM
Ao! I actually missed that one since I was just looking at his feet lol!
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chingu
January 1, 2017 at 8:40 PM
Ohohoho, oops, Goblin made a boo boo. On another note, I LOVED Gong Yoo's hair when he transported to Quebec. It was down and messy–all bedhead-like. I'd love to see him in that hairstyle again!
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37 immawish
December 31, 2016 at 11:36 PM
I just love Kim Sohyun so much that this episode was so fun and yashhhhh the talk with Eunuch gave me chills. And these sageuk scenes with Kim Sohyun and Kim Minjae just felt like watching Moon that embraces the Sun all over again but with Kim Sohyun being a sweet character.
Anyway, the last clip of older Wang Yeo being Grim Reaper made me mad and HOW COULD THEY LET US SUFFER FOR A WEEK?
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38 teiisha
January 1, 2017 at 12:03 AM
I love love love this show and the actors are doing a great job.
But the writing feels a bit draggy :/ The plot doesnt advance as much as one wld expect for a show with longer eps than usual.
Im complaining but im also not complaining cos i love the family dynamic between the foursome (Goblin, Reaper, Deok Hwa, Eun Tak) and i wish Sunny wld get a chance to be a part of tht dynamic a bit more!
Also, the music is great!
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39 azzo
January 1, 2017 at 12:10 AM
This episode was great, I loved all the Goryeo scenes.
It's sad how the little king was brainwashed by a manipulative and greedy scholar who wanted the kingdom for himself. He had no one to guide him and the one who did took him to the wrong path. I loved seeing the king sneak out to see Sun and Sun running to meet him, so cute, but knowing what was going to happen I couldn't help feeling heartbroken for them. Now all I want is for the Reaper to remember his past, how's he going to face Sunny then? what is he going to tell the Goblin? He did look heartbreakingly miserable in the glimpse we got of him from Goryeo!
That glory shot got me laughing really hard for a long time, I watched it twice just to get the laughs!
And grandpa, aw no!
Thank you gummimochi for the recap.
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40 Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 12:12 AM
Thanks @gummimochi
I caught short snippets of this episode raw, released by tvN as 1-2+ minute cuts, and even then I was roaring with laughter or moved to tears. I love this show that can bring all all the different feels at a drop of a hat, and spaces them out so that my being moved or amused is balanced out. I'd like to commend all the actors for their wonderful performances. I'm so convinced that they are who they claim to be. I used to in other shows, but in this one, I do not see glimpses of Blade Man when I see LDW or Hong Seol (CITT) in KGE or Choi Han Kyul (Coffee Prince) in Gong Yoo.
I feel that some of the difficulty that some of us have in seeing the chemistry between Shin and Eun Tak is that he is respecting her youth and is not giving her the full boy-to-girl coupley treatment yet. I however do feel that they have a great chemistry. It is not rooted in skinship but in their developing regard for each other and how they can talk and share, how they take turns to be childish and caring. In any case, the story has skillfully set up the appropriate setting for their relationship. It has given her many chances to know him well enough to choose and as an adult now, she does choose romance with Shin. It's all good!!
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chingu
January 1, 2017 at 12:23 AM
yes! you've worded it beautifully: "he is respecting her youth" is right! i love that we've seen their relationship progress from strangers to lovers. it's all very sweet and as eun tak says, ~so romantic~ they're taking it slow and steady and waiting for the appropriate time and moment to do things. i'm so glad she chose "romance with shin" hehehe
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capri
January 1, 2017 at 2:57 AM
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memyselfandi
January 1, 2017 at 5:22 AM
Well said. Wish more viewers could see it this way.
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 7:43 AM
Thank you. I never expect them to go all out sexy here.
They are both endearing, it's lovely and sweet. My kind of relationship.
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41 chingu
January 1, 2017 at 12:19 AM
lol, i find it hilarious that shin keeps forgetting his wallet. it's happened twice in this ep and eun tak keeps calling him out for it. i wonder if it's gonna be a running joke in the show. i mean, he's paid for a lot of things already, we know that, but i love the bit of eun tak calling him out for acting all mighty but always forgetting to bring money with him. if we didn't know how stinkin' rich he was, i'd think he was fakin' it. aha. sunny might think that since she already thinks he's a sketchy oraboni... same w/ grims. these men and their secrets!
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42 annflln
January 1, 2017 at 12:22 AM
Happy New Year Gummi...and all of beanies too!! May we blessed with more great drama this year.
This episode was great!! Plot are moving forward. Now we're explore more on Goryeo time. It is glad to see more on Yeo-Sun relationship and I agree with other comments, that jade ring surely have stories behind. I hope Reaper-Sunny pair will go well.
As for our Shin-Eun tak couple, who cute are they!!! I love them.
That Goblin-Reaper groceries strut in the tunnel was hilarious! KES really know how to make a fan service. She made that scene to also convey new year's greetings.
Now I'm really can't wait for next week to come.
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43 bubblecha
January 1, 2017 at 12:23 AM
I wonder why Reaper has only been serving for 300 years when Kim Shin has been around for 900 years. If his sin was so great that he was forced to serve as a Grim Reaper for all eternity, why did he start his job 600 years later??
Did he get lost in the reaper waiting list and it took the office centuries to get his paperwork sorted again??
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endo
January 1, 2017 at 12:28 AM
I was thinking the same. Maybe he started 900 years ago. But kept on remembering his past life that they have to delete his memories. And only the 300 years he can only remember now.
This is just a WILD guess..Haha.
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heradom
January 1, 2017 at 4:00 AM
Actually thinking about it- the punishment of being a reaper vs the punishment of not forgetting your last and being stuck in eternal regret like the person who hit people with his car, I think the former seems more merciful? In my mind I rationalize it as our dear reaper having to do the latter first then the former- to be honest being a reaper seems like a lesser crime and a chance to atone with bureaucratic paperwork, even if one did do a great sin. It would be nice if they could drop a tidbit as to how all this works though
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:39 AM
Maybe he got reincarnated first? Then he did a worse sin in that life, ergo, becoming a reaper. That would be fair because if there's anyone who deserves a punishment, it should be his manipulator. It's not his fault he was manipulated since he was a kid. But alas, there's no reaper eunuch.
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44 Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 12:27 AM
Unexpected bits and Questions:
Surprisingly the scene that moved me most was Jung Hyun's farewell. Next might be the farewell of CEO Yu.
In the Goryeo scenes I found the palace strangely empty. There should have been masses of ministers and counsellors, and not just 1. When the queen ran through the courtyard to meet Yeo, she and the king should have been followed by a retinue.
I was also surprised-amused that Eun Tak was jealous of Sunny. That was an unexpected side but understandable as she never really thought of herself as chosen for herself but only because she served a need. Her confidence needs a boost after the poor treatment she has received most of her young life.
Shin felt the need to come back to brush back her hair and treat Eun Tak as a boyfriend might after he got upset that she's still asking for a boyfriend. And how he said he'd go out with her since they are now a single package. That was so sweet. It was also exactly what Eun Tak needed to hear after being upset that he was staring at Sunny.
Surprised that Reaper mentions dry cleaning his hat and really does it quite often. Surprised that he does not wear gloves instead of hiding his hands so that he does not accidentally touch anyone.
Besides teleporting through doors and flying, Shin can disappear and pass through solids?
Eun Tak's aunt said the bank books kept disappearing, but how did they get into the locker?
What is the rule of ghosts that Eun Tak's mother could not remain to see to the unfinished business of the bank books herself, but that her friend, due to a promise could not pass over to heaven until the Eun Tak found the bank books?
Other Points:
I'm so pleased that Shin's figured out that he can be or is the one to buy the necklace for Eun Tak. This could be the first step in changing his 'fate' and looking for the door to add a variable that 'god' did not expect.
Love how in the serious talk about CEO Yu's impending death, humour is injected when Reaper asks if Yu knows about him and Shin deliberately misunderstands it to mean about the break up! Even Reaper laughed.
Love Shin's grey turtleneck sweater while he was cooking.
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endo
January 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM
“Eun Tak’s aunt said the bank books kept disappearing, but how did they get into the locker?”
If i remember it correctly, whenever her aunt claimed insurance (which i guess every year). She couldn’t get it because of her debts so i think the company put it directly on ET’s Bankbook. And i guess, the ghost steals the updated passbook everytime.
I was more baffled of how long the ghosts stayed. She died during her high school years. Which is way before ET was born. But how come the reason for staying is because she grew fond of watching ET?
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Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 12:51 AM
@ endo
Thanks for responding to the question. I was asking it because from what I see of ghosts in this dramaverse, they cannot hold on to things. Therefore, if Jung Hyun could not touch or move the bank books, who did?
Also, it was because she had made a promise with Eun Tak's mum that they'd give gifts to each other's kids that she stayed on. She herself died young and had no children, but she stayed to let Eun Tak know about the money. In the process she watched Eun Tak grow up.
Still I find it strange that she was compelled to stay but Eun Tak's mum couldn't.
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avidkdramaer
January 1, 2017 at 2:40 AM
I think ghost can hold things. There's instances where ghosts friends put cigarettes in the bully classmate's hand (when ET was maligned of smoking by them). Also, ET bought drinks for Jung Hyun at the vending machine (JH was holding it)
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Gabobobobo
January 1, 2017 at 6:52 AM
I also wonder why the reapers didn't take the ghost's soul?
Why some people died and the soul was picked up by reaper, while some became ghost and wandered on earth?
Petmink
January 2, 2017 at 5:31 AM
The ghost story left a lot of questions. Why didn't the ghost just tell Eun Tak where the bank books were instead of making her go all the way to Paju first? And why wait until now?
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ven
January 2, 2017 at 5:17 PM
Because she wanted the flowers to move on (not getting flowers was the reason she became a ghost) so she needed them given at Paju.
She waited to leave until 1. Euntak had friends and family of her own (bf goblin) 2. Euntak needed the money for tuition 3. Euntak was old enough (adult)
Petmink
January 2, 2017 at 10:15 PM
Was her not moving on because she didn't get flowers shown this episode? I totally missed that.
chingu
January 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM
yes, i also thought that shin was attempting to change fate and become the person in eun tak's future. you may be onto something when you said "looking for the door to add a variable that 'god' did not expect" that's good, since they did mention that a few times in the recent eps on variables that occur, despite not being there originally, and how those variables changes the outcome of the original plan.
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Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 12:57 AM
Thanks @van
That's what I like about this show. As far as possible, they have introduced us to precedents and characters who will later on become 'useful' or important.
Fun Precedents
We had the precedent of another grim reaper who met his wife. We know it has implications for our Reaper when he figures out that he's Yeo.
We see that rules can be broken if someone is desperate enough (who did not even know he had broken the rules). Which has given Shin the right idea to take action, and really start living instead of just doing ad hoc miracles, or just existing and letting time pass by.
We were introduced to Jung Hyun before so that it's easy to relate to her now.
Thief on the bicycle is saved from imminent death by Shin to appear this episode and make Shin look cool and romantic LOL!
My next question will be if the little boy being bullied last episode will also make a later appearance for any reason. So interesting to look out for all the clues and wonder if they are nothing or red herrings. :)
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endo
January 1, 2017 at 11:18 PM
The Girl that gave ET the Dokkaebi book at the library was the same girl who died with her mom (who ordered "heaven" tea)..I'm not sure if it's the same character of they're just short on casts. LOL.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 4:46 AM
This is so true. I like how side characters seems to be more than just "extras". I like how small details that are easily missed tend to be sognificant for later episodes.
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45 chingu
January 1, 2017 at 12:30 AM
oh, forgot to mention: MAJOR props to sunny for being sooooooo patient w/ a guy like grims. i mean, yeah, he's good looking, cute, dorky and honest, but he's got way too many secrets and is almost always sketchy af, so it's really sweet of her to give him so many chances and be so understanding of his situation. i hope shin and eun tak will try to hook them up again and succeed this time. eun tak needs to really plan it out in details with shin so that he doesn't ruin it again, lol. maybe call deok hwa for some help, too!
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46 melovestage
January 1, 2017 at 12:32 AM
I'm enjoying Goblin sooooo much! This ep kept me engaged for so long as I wasn't distracted halfway or something. I did not notice that the last scene was adult-Yeo who "looks like" Grim Reaper. DAMN IT how did I even miss it?!
Side note: did anyone notice the question the dry cleaner owner asked Grim Reaper where his hat was made from? "Is it Italian?" I LOL-ed when I heard that line! The Secret Garden reference!
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Growingbeautifully
January 1, 2017 at 1:04 AM
Woah! I missed the same thing, ie, I was in a hurry and glossed over the adult Yeo and did not notice it was LDW lol! and what was that reference to the Secret Garden? Was it that Hyun Bin's character kept claiming his swearshirt was from Italy?
I'd think of Italy = with capital Rome = holy place related to heaven ... so the hat was manufactured in the factory not of earthly Italy but of heaven. :D That's why I was surprised it had to be dry cleaned... Reaper keeps going to the dry cleaners. LOL I wonder if it's an inside joke.
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47 endo
January 1, 2017 at 12:34 AM
"Eun Tak’s aunt said the bank books kept disappearing, but how did they get into the locker?"
If i remember it correctly, whenever her aunt claimed insurance (which i guess every year). She couldn't get it because of her debts so i think the company put it directly on ET's Bankbook. And i guess, the ghost steals the updated passbook everytime.
I was more baffled of how long the ghosts stayed. She died during her high school years. Which is way before ET was born. But how come the reason for staying is because she grew fond of watching ET?
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Kendi
January 1, 2017 at 7:48 AM
I also think it's a bit of stretch, I mean even Eun Tak mom didn't stay for her kid (not that I blame her) but still...
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dv
January 1, 2017 at 12:46 PM
the ghost didn't stay because of Eun-tak. She said while she was wandering around as a ghost already, she took an interest in Eun-tak, and hasn't moved on since then. She wasn't able to move on because of her flowers at graduation.
Eun-tak's mother didn't linger because she didn't want to. She was already meant to be dead a long time before that, and knew she was on borrowed time and preparing the life insurance, so it was easier for the mother to accept her own death. Her friend had a more difficult time accepting her death, so she became a ghost.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:15 PM
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48 Sixtyone
January 1, 2017 at 12:36 AM
I rushed here once I finished episode 10.
OMG, that King and Queen love line is soooo sweet, before the eunuch ruins everything. And that mother's friend scene makes me cry a lot. I love this episode so muuuuch.
Happy new year Beanis...
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49 secretdream
January 1, 2017 at 1:03 AM
eun tak and kim shin is soo lovely in this episode, but i know it means something going to be so bad after this... likely so
goryeo scene is the best for this episode, it explain a lot. it so heartbreaking to see that the king do love the queen and the same with the queen. the scene when the queen ran to meet the king is super duper cute...
but their love is torn by the evil eunuch
also love kim sun-kim shin interaction when she is in the palanquin
what make me wonder who give the ring and
how was the condition of the king after all mess
cause the king seem so dead inside in the last scene of adult King
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Kiara
January 1, 2017 at 7:46 AM
I think the ring was given to her by the king because Goblin doesn't seems to recognize it.
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PersonaInnominatum
January 1, 2017 at 3:17 PM
I think the same. Also, in the flashback, even though we only get to see the "mysterious hand" putting it on her, we know that those hands are small, delicate, and smooth - not a warrior's hand.
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50 Ara
January 1, 2017 at 1:10 AM
I live for Grim and Sunny story. Much more invested in their tragic fate. Hope to see more flashback too-
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