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Jealousy Incarnate: Episode 18

Oh, it’s so messy, everything is messy, how ever will they get themselves out of this one? This ill-fated triangle takes a battering as the share-house turns into a real-life, real-time personality test, and Na-ri is forced to examine her own motives. But is the choice really between ticking boxes and beating hearts, or something else altogether?

EPISODE 18 RECAP

Lying in bed beside each other, Na-ri tells Hwa-shin to quit drinking and smoking, and says she really would die if anything happened to him. “Sleep with me,” he says to her. He unbuttons his shirt and she puts her hand on his chest, where he covers it with his own. They gaze at each other, until Na-ri draws her hand back.

Touching her face, Hwa-shin leans in to kiss her, but she jerks back at the last moment and says they can’t break the rules. Nonplussed, Hwa-shin counters that she felt that moment, too, and uses Plato to argue that the natural attraction they feel towards each other is a sign that they’re two halves of one whole. That’s some slick talking you got there, bro.

He tells her she’s tormenting him and fooling herself, reminding her that she devised those rules in order to find an answer. He points out that that if she undoes his last two buttons, she’ll automatically find her answer to who she likes more, in a “necessary, sacred process”. Ha! How he can say this with a straight face!

Na-ri shakes off his hypnotic earnestness, and sends him flying to the floor with a kick. But contrite, she tries to stop him leaving the house, luggage and all. He breaks out of her hold, but spinning back on his heel, he returns to her and says that she’s the one who seduced him first, when he had wanted to leave her room. She says she only told him to stay with her, not climb into her bed. He yells that to a man, it’s the same thing.

Hwa-shin says that this house where she has her two men must be like heaven for her, but it’s hell for him. And he asks her why she’s holding onto him when he’s ending it now, just like she said. Sighing in frustration, she tells him it’s hell for her, too. She says sorry and grapples for his luggage, just as Jung-won returns.

Eyes brightening, he asks Hwa-shin if he’s giving up, and tells him he’s doing the right thing. Looking tortured, Hwa-shin stalks back in. Jung-won asks Na-ri if they fought, but she only sighs when he asks why.

Ja-young asks Sung-sook if she went to the movies with Pal-gang. Sung-sook says she asked her, and figures that Pal-gang’s decided who she wants to live with. Ja-young can’t believe it, “Why you?” she asks. Sung-sook takes exception to the question, pointing out that she’s the mother who gave birth to Pal-gang.

“Pal-gang is my daughter. I never once thought of her as your daughter,” Ja-young says, blinking back tears. Voice harsh, Sung-sook tells her to go ask Pal-gang herself, but Ja-young says that she’s too scared to hear the rejection from Pal-gang’s lips. She sinks to the floor, sobbing in earnest.

Na-ri crouches at Hwa-shin’s bedside, where he’s feigning sleep. She remembers him asking whether she really liked him and Jung-won precisely equally. Just as she’s about to touch him, he opens his eyes and tells her not to touch him.

Looking at him, she admits that she did feel something, but it still won’t do. “Get lost,” Hwa-shin tells her, turning away.

Upstairs, Jung-won intercepts her to ask when she was born, and Na-ri wonders if he’s going to consult a fortune teller. He says that his mom’s interested in her now, which he considers a good omen for them.

Pal-gang considers her dad’s final message (nominating Ja-young as her guardian), and sighs. She goes into the moms’ room and tells Ja-young to leave. “I don’t need you anymore. I’m going to live with my real mom,” she says smugly. Ja-young jerks in her sleep, and bolts up—it was all a nightmare.

The next morning, Na-ri takes happy possession of her new car. Struck by a thought, she muses that she can find out her suitors’ true personalities by getting driving instruction from them. Do you mean to say that you bought a car without knowing how to drive?!

We see her drive with them both: Jung-won instructs her lightly and teasingly, while Hwa-shin looks like he’s holding on for dear life as he yells at her. Na-ri’s inner monologue observes how extreme Hwa-shin is, when even Jung-won’s rebukes are pleasant.

A montage of comparisons follows, where Jung-won helps her carry shopping while Hwa-shin sits idly by. Another time, she deliberately throws the breakers to plunge the house into darkness. Jung-won coolly fixes them, and the lights come back on to reveal Hwa-shin on Na-ri’s lap, clinging to her in fear (really?). Na-ri thinks to herself that Hwa-shin really can’t do a thing.

Jung-won also helps with the housework, but this is one thing that Hwa-shin’s got, and they watch him obsessively wipe down every surface, which Na-ri thinks to herself is pretty exhausting.

Na-ri fills in her calendar, where she seems to be keeping a tally—of wins? Every day so far is Jung-won’s. Lol. She sighs for Hwa-shin.

Now at the movies, Jung-won is an attentive date, feeding Na-ri popcorn and crowding her laughing together. It’s a wholly different affair with Hwa-shin, who remains stiff and surly, although he finally accepts her ministrations of popcorn and soda.

Na-ri eventually falls asleep. Maddened, Hwa-shin seizes her head and mauls her…in his head. Hahaha. In reality, he punches the air around her and wrings his fists, while the big screen reflects his imaginary onslaught. In his mind, he dashes popcorn over her, kisses her all over her face, and then screams in frustration. Real Hwa-shin closes his hand over Na-ri’s, but pulls it back as soon as she rouses a moment later.

Back at home, Na-ri asks Hwa-shin for his birth date details, which he refuses to divulge. When he lowers his newspaper, she’s shocked to see him in his glasses…I think she just swooned a little. She keeps staring at him, and tells him never to wear his glasses in front of any other woman—only her.

Looking challengingly at her, he takes them off. Just as the paper’s about to come up, she grabs the glasses and swoops into the space between. Hidden from view, they argue as she tries to put his glasses back on him. “I told you not to touch my body,” he tells her.

Lowering the paper, he takes the glasses off again. Cajoling, Na-ri replaces them while he growls at her. Laughing, she leaves them low down on his nose while he glares and pushes them back up.

PD Oh and Announcer Uhm find Ja-young drinking alone, and she conscripts them into drinking with her. Ja-young asks them who they would choose between her and Sung-sook, if everyone else in the world were dead. Uhm easily answers Sung-sook, but when Ja-young refuses PD Oh’s first answer (“I’d die, too”), he picks Sung-sook, too…for her tough-as-nails survival skills. Hahahaha.

Oh says that although she’s hotheaded, she doesn’t hold grudges, and Uhm adds that she’s loyal and all-round cool. Ja-young slams down her glass and asks what’s wrong with living with her, when she’s better at cooking and cleaning, would treat them better and love them more. She bawls, and they try awkwardly to comfort her.

The two men bring Ja-young home, glad to find Chi-yeol and Dae-goo to pass her off to. But she snaps out of the boys’ hands when they mention that this is more like Sung-sook. Ja-young asks why she can’t get drunk. She goes noisily up by herself, throwing off Chef Rak who also compares them. The noise brings Sung-sook herself out, followed by a sleepy Pal-gang.

PD Oh calls Pal-gang the wrong color (“bunhong” which is “pink”, as opposed to Pal-gang/red) and tells her to take her mom (Ja-young) in. “Hey,” says Sung-sook, “She’s my daughter and her name isn’t Bun-hong, it’s Pal-gang.”

But Ja-young refutes her and says Pal-gang is her daughter. She turns to Pal-gang with a loving smile, and asks her to live together with her. Pal-gang sighs in distress.

A slightly drunk Soo-jung rings Jung-won’s doorbell, demanding to be let in, but the three housemates are asleep. Jung-won snaps awake and goes for the gate. As soon as he opens it, Soo-jung dashes inside, desperate for the bathroom, which Hwa-shin points her to.

Jung-won runs back in and Hwa-shin wonders in amusement if he should invite Na-ri to view this spectacle. Jung-won grabs Soo-jung as soon as she’s out, but she perks up to see Hwa-shin. Na-ri, also coming down, has to duck out of sight before the other girl sees her. Instead, she watches Jung-won carry Soo-jung out while Hwa-shin recovers her bag.

Once they’re gone, Na-ri comes out, relieved that they weren’t caught. Hwa-shin wonders if she isn’t jealous of Jung-won with another woman, but she replies that as a two-timing woman herself, she doesn’t even have any right to be.

But when he suggests he’s a better man than Jung-won in that respect, Na-ri scoffs that she doesn’t have to be afraid of him sneaking into her bed every night. Hwa-shin remains adamant that he was seduced, and then asks her if she’s not afraid now, then, since they’re all alone, and it’ll be a while before Jung-won returns.

Na-ri grows angry. “I didn’t know you were such a boor,” she says. “The idea that it’s game-over if a woman sleeps with a man once, isn’t that boorish?” She rips into him for his Plato-sweet-talking, and pretty much everything he did that night, repeating the same insult.

He explodes at her that she should be taking her anger and jealousy out on Jung-won, not him, but she replies that she really isn’t jealous over Jung-won. Instead, she scoffs about how Hwa-shin gave Soo-jung water and even picked up her bag. Disbelievingly, he asks if that’s what she’s jealous of, and she yells that that’s exactly it.

He launches into another tirade to tell her to go fight it out with Jung-won. But…didn’t she just confess being jealous because of Hwa-shin? She shouts at him in frustration, while he remains hung up on her calling him a boor.

He comes eye-to-eye with her and she asks, “Aren’t you confused whether you just want to sleep with me or if you love me?” She says that because of how cruelly he treated her during her crush, she doesn’t feel like she’s precious to him, and all that past disdain comes to mind now.

He says he likes her so much but he doesn’t know how to show her it, but she tells him that she can’t trust him: It could be that he’s just acting out because he doesn’t want Jung-won to have her, not because he loves her, she says.

“You’re not an easy woman to me anymore,” Hwa-shin says, but she counters that he treats her like one. On the other hand, Jung-won is trustworthy and constant, she adds. “Even in this situation?” Hwa-shin asks, demanding a reply. “Yeah,” Na-ri says easily. Haha, you’d think he’d have learnt to stop asking damning questions by now.

Meanwhile, Jung-won reaches Soo-jung’s house, where he deposits her at her front gate. He tells her angrily that if she comes to his house like that again, he’ll release the CCTV footage he has of her visits, which would ruin both her career and marriage prospects.

When Jung-won returns home, he goes straight to Na-ri and folds her into a hug. He tells her that it’s okay if she gets mad at him, but she says it’s fine. Well, this is awkward. She says it actually makes her feel a bit better about herself, and I feel a bit sorry for Jung-won as he so searchingly asks her, “Aren’t you…jealous?” Clasping her hand with a smile, he says it’s okay for her to be honest with him. She smiles tentatively back. Nope, still not jealous.

As Hwa-shin watches Na-ri’s news next morning, his imagination serves him with Na-ri-on-the-screen repeating what she said the night before: “I can’t trust you.” He paces restlessly, waiting for the others, and finally gives in to the devil, looking up his compatibility horoscope with Na-ri. He comes up with a measly 3 and even the computer tells him to break up. It’s worse when it scores a 98 with Jung-won. (Computer: “Get married!”)

Na-ri pops home to pick up something, arriving just as Jung-won exits the shower. Rather unfortunately for him, his towel falls down while he’s talking to her, and he freezes. Covering her eyes, Na-ri flees, and I repeat: awkward. Bad awkward.

Pal-gang has Chi-yeol, Dae-goo, Chef and Sung-sook assembled on the rooftop for an announcement. Once Ja-young arrives, Pal-gang gives Sung-sook the note that is her dad’s will, and Sung-sook reads it in shock. But Ja-young looks like the sun came out, and tearfully thanks Pal-gang and Chef.

Sung-sook tears up the note and argues that it doesn’t mean anything—what matters is what Pal-gang wants. Pal-gang looks from one woman to the other and blurts that she always did what Dad told her, and she intends to honor his last words, too. Ja-young leaps up and hugs Pal-gang, while Sung-sook, stricken, leaves. Pal-gang seems equally upset, especially when Sung-sook trips on her way.

Hwa-shin’s mom arrives at the broadcast station during Hwa-shin and Hye-won’s broadcast. She smiles at Hye-won on the screen, thinking she’s the girlfriend Hwa-shin intends to introduce. She bumps into Madam Kim at the elevators, and as they go up together, she confides to her that she’s planning to take Hwa-shin and his ladyfriend to dinner.

Mom finds Hye-won in her dressing room and invites her to dinner with them, which Hye-won happily accepts. Madam Kim, meanwhile, finds Na-ri, though her dinner invitation finds a much more nervous reception.

Hwa-shin bursts into the dressing room and Mom apprises him of her dinner plans with his “girlfriend”, while Hye-won smiles shyly. Bursting back out, Hwa-shin phones Na-ri (#1 on his speed-dial), urgently asking her to have dinner with him today. But she’s already leaving with Madam Kim. Telling him she’s busy, she hangs up.

On the elevator down, every time Mom asks Hye-won a question, Hwa-shin cuts her off before she can reply. Finally, he comes out with it and says that Hye-won’s not his girlfriend. But he said she likes him, Mom says uncertainly. He replies, “She likes me on her own. I don’t like her, she’s scary.”

He apologizes to Hye-won, but he’s still a jerk, and Mom thinks so, too. But Hye-won tells her it’s fine—it’s true that she liked Hwa-shin by herself. Since they’re still in the elevator, it’s a bit awkward when Mom asks Hwa-shin who he really meant to introduce.

Meanwhile, Madam Kim tells Na-ri that she had her compatibility horoscope read, and apparently she can’t fight it. But Na-ri argues that they’re not necessarily accurate. Madam Kim is puzzled by her response, but says that she’s really meeting her because Jung-won likes her so much, and she wanted to see her for herself. She rightly predicts Jung-won’s arrival to rescue her, and denies to him that she was terrorizing Na-ri.

Naturally, Hwa-shin and his mom pick this same restaurant, and she asks him why he can’t just date Hye-won. Hwa-shin replies that the other woman is way better than her, prettier and more warmhearted, “And most importantly, my heart belongs to her.” But Mom still scolds him for his shoddy treatment of Hye-won.

Hwa-shin notices Na-ri’s party right then, and a moment later, his mom spots Madam Kim. She goes right over to their table, and calls Hwa-shin over, too. Awkward City, man. Madam Kim asks where Hwa-shin’s girlfriend is, and Na-ri suddenly realizes what his earlier call meant. Hwa-shin doesn’t look at her, and takes his mom out. Na-ri looks forlornly after them, and Jung-won takes her hand and sits her back down.

At home, Na-ri waits to meet Hwa-shin, and explains Madam Kim’s unexpected arrival. Grabbing his suitcase, he says it doesn’t matter: “Let’s end this.” He leaves, driving away, away, away. Inside, Na-ri grabs her own coat and runs out.

Ja-young comes to check something with PD Oh while Sung-sook is on air. As the news goes to a report, Sung-sook comes over and confronts Ja-young, thinking she’s there to gloat. PD Oh and Announcer Uhm drag her back to her desk, and Sung-sook spits that she’ll go to court for Pal-gang.

Appalled that she should care so little for Pal-gang’s feelings, Ja-young follows her back to the desk, but has to duck down when they go back on air. Sung-sook gives her a savage kick, toppling her over. “You’re no match for me,” she says, pointing out that the “will” is hardly legally binding, and that the law will favor her as the birth mother. The women are about to scuffle, but PD Oh and Announcer Uhm tear them apart.

At the station, Hwa-shin heads for the night-duty room, but loses a contact lens on the way. He’s surprised at the sight of Dong-gi in a face mask (so am I), but otherwise ignores him. PD Oh calls Hwa-shin to his office with Hye-won, and Hwa-shin dons his glasses and heads there.

Na-ri also arrives at the station, heading in after seeing Hwa-shin’s car. Girl, you gotta turn the lights off! She finds his suitcase in the night-duty room, and Dong-gi tells her where Hwa-shin’s gone.

Hwa-shin reaches the office first, and Hye-won arrives, eyes burning. She tells Hwa-shin he went too far, asking if he enjoyed humiliating her like that in front of his mom. “Don’t mess with me today,” he says tiredly.

“You messed with me first,” Hye-won replies. Pulling him to her, she kisses him, glasses and all. Na-ri arrives just in time to witness it, and the bag drops from her hand.

COMMENTS

Does anyone else feel a tiny bit like the show is spinning its wheels a bit this episode? I feel like we’re treading the same ground that led up to Na-ri’s kiss with Hwa-shin a few episodes ago, just changing up the setting a bit. Everything about this episode, from the first minute, seems to prove that she definitely likes Hwa-shin more, and doesn’t actually like-like (lol did I actually say that) Jung-won at all. I’m relieved that she’s on the cusp of finally accepting what’s been obvious to us for weeks, because the level of awkward in that house was getting painful. I feel a little cheated, though, that we didn’t even get any quasi-family bonding moments—what about all that eating together and smelling each other’s poop?

I wonder if it’s even possible to untangle everyone’s hopelessly mixed-up motives, from the reason Na-ri proposed the arrangement, to the reasons why each man is pursuing her in the first place. For the former, was it really to break up with them? Was it to confirm her feelings? Or was it in fact to undo them? Or some combination of all three? As for the boys, I think their feelings for Na-ri are genuine, but some idiot sense of competition and territoriality has magnified their pursuit to an uncomfortable intensity. At the same time, I think Hwa-shin is justified in feeling played with, because Na-ri’s skinship rule leaves the balance of power unfairly on her side. If you’re having rules, it seems like it would be fairer (and more sensible) to have a no-skinship-by-anyone rule.

But here’s the thing, too. I’m sure Na-ri knows Hwa-shin is the one she really likes. She did, after all, nurse a three-year crush on him that she admits she didn’t succeed in killing. I’m impatient with the artificial protraction of Jung-won as a viable rival, with that lack of spark and liveliness in his interactions with Na-ri that’s had him shelved in my mind for weeks. As before, I can see the intent: He’s the very model of a modern man and just bursting with chivalry, but I’m really uncomfortable with his presumption, and the passive-aggressive way he has of whittling away at Na-ri’s agency.

By now, it seems more like a smokescreen to the real, more difficult and more interesting conflict of why she can’t pick Hwa-shin even though she clearly likes him more (by far more than 1%). When it’s so obvious their feelings are mutual, why aren’t they on the same page? There’s so much there to unpick—Jung-won is not the obstacle. Even the issue of the boys’ friendship is nearly irrelevant right now; that relationship is one thing, what’s between Hwa-shin and Na-ri is another altogether.

No, the real problem in Na-ri and Hwa-shin having a relationship is in the corpse of her crush that lies between them. She’s clearly scarred from the way he used to treat her, and what she said to him about not being able to trust him is really telling, because that’s the number one thing that their relationship lacks and desperately needs, if it’s to exist in any healthy way. “Being real” with her ceases to be a virtue in Hwa-shin, because that’s not what she needs. What she needs is a sense of security from him. If you think back to the kiss, it was the only time that Hwa-shin was impossible for her to resist, and if we examine what led her there, it becomes clear that there’s a lethal mix: not just a storm of mutual feelings, but he’d actually treated her well—unprecedentedly, swoonily well—all day.

It’s such a simple formula, but she’s been conditioned with negative associations between her feelings for him versus his treatment of her for over three years, even in the very recent past. She doesn’t feel emotionally safe with him, and he can’t undo that with a little careless wooing. With those memories and that hurt constantly rising to the surface and coming to the fore of every meaningful argument they have, it’s hard to blame her for just not wanting to start something with him, even if she has feelings for him. After all, she had those same feelings for him throughout her crush. He treated her like crap then.

The fact that he’s basically treating Hye-won the same way now says something about him that I’m not sure I like. Of course he isn’t obliged to accept the feelings of anyone who likes him, but he seems to take refuge in humiliating others, and that’s not a characteristic that makes me root for him. Hwa-shin really is his own worst enemy—he hardly needs Jung-won to show him up, he does a great job all by himself. The only thing that makes this occasion slightly less terrible is that Hye-won is a badass and won’t take it lying down. Seeing her crack was still a little bit painful, though.

Even seeing Hwa-shin break was painful, despite his buttface tendencies, because once again, that raw sincerity goes a tiny inch in redeeming him. I keep being reminded of the story of King Solomon and the baby; I feel like Hwa-shin proves his greater love and the seriousness of his emotions by refusing to play the share-game anymore, with an attendant understanding that love isn’t a prize to be won or lost. So he’s far from hopeless…but he’s also got a long way to go.

Speaking of King Solomon, I don’t see why the two-mom solution has to be so drastic. Of all the triangles in this show, shouldn’t this one be the most resolvable? Can’t they carry on living the way they are? Or if either or both women find someone else they want to live with, can’t they share custody like any other parents? I just don’t understand why Pal-gang can only pick one when they both have legitimate claims on her, and she clearly has important relationships with both of them. Don’t break the momance, show!

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As usual, I am blown away by the vast amount of awesome points/ thoughts that you beanies put forward. I can’t help ‘aaah’ ing and ‘oooh’ ing while going through the comments. I mean I already knew which characters I would be rooting for when the drama started its journey (coz the heart loves what it loves), but at the same time all these amazing comments has opened my mind to new ways of thinking. I dunno if I am taking this too far, but I feel it just makes me a better person in real life as well. You know, developing the ability to keep an open mind, understand the fact that there are different opinions out there and that those opinions can be just as valid as mine. Personal Development 101, thanks to the dramabeans platform. Ha ha.

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I'm also fascinated by the different thoughts and opinions this drama is invoking in people: team JW, team HS, team NR ? It's really interesting. You either love it or hate it, but no indifference, that's for certain. Just as Na Ri said in the beginning, nothing's worse than indifference.

Heck, I almost never commentted about a drama here in DB before, mostly because I almost never watched a drama live before (could not take the suspense) and always came late to the party. JI is the second drama after MDBC that I watched live, and even though I liked MDBC, I didn't feel compelled to comment. JI for me is a gem because the unique story line and its characters ♥

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Again I have to say, ME TOOOoo..... (dunno how many times for real, hihi)
Yes, thank you, people...

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?? Amelyia

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Ha ha.. Strawberry. Definitely no indifference when it comes to JI, right?
I’m glad to see you around the JI thread with your awesome comments - This online interaction with like-minded people takes my drama watching experience to a whole new level!❤❤

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Also, Saya, Saya, Saya - Yes, I have to say your name thrice bcoz I really loved this week’s recap. :)

I’d like to point out a couple of things that I enjoyed reading in your recap:

1. ‘King Solomon’s baby’ was an outstanding example/parallel of Hwa-shin’s situation. I love how you said that “Hwashin proves his greater love and seriousness of his emotions by refusing to play the share-game anymore” *Goosebumps*

2. “Hwashin looks like he is holding on to dear life as he yells at her” ha ha.. I think I laughed more reading your comment and looking at the screenshot than when I was actually watching it. Maybe coz I missed Hwashin’s expressions while trying to follow the subtitles.

3. Good point about WHY Nari proposed the arrangement? Break up? Confirm feelings? Undo them? Hmm… Probably will be clearer in the coming episodes.

4. ‘The only time Hwashin was impossible to resist for Nari -the kiss day (ha ha, I know you don’t like to be reminded of it) - was when he had treated her exceptionally well all day’ . Brilliant point. I wish Hwashin could read this recap and take some notes.

Thank you!

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Part of Hwashins prickly nature at the moment is because of all this messiness imo. It's very telling how he reacted after their kiss...sweetly calling her Nariya..asking her to dinner. He was under the impression that she'd be with him for good now. He clearly likes her and will probably be good if she's only with him.
But I don't know what Nari feels about him. Is it her crush-hangover? Fatal attraction? Her mommy instincts kicking in because she wants to care for hwashin?
Can't wait to see how they'll end the show.

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Lol, I am expecting it too. Please JI casts, read what people are chatting about you all, here.. Xixixi..

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Great comment! It makes me better understand why my feelings are oft conflicted as far as how this drama's story is going. And relieved that I'm not the only one who's going crazy most of the time.

I'm Team Hwashin and it's solely because JJS is doing such a fine job of playing him. That said, it's seem strange but I feel the couple of episodes had been unfair to Jung-won. Like he's being dragged into all this insanity by Na-ri just because she can't face her feelings for Hwa-shin head on.

Na-ri's concerns and hesitance in being with Hwa-shin is warranted given the kind of rudeness and public humiliation she has suffered when she was still on a one-sided crush with him. Also, there's probably thoughts of uncertainty on how steadfast his feelings would be once the "fascination" and competitive jealousy wears off. But then it's pretty obvious that even with the horrible and shameful 3 years she's had because of him, she still feels strongly about Hwa-shin. And I fail to see why she just can't accept her feelings for what they are and be completely honest with the two guys. If Hwa-shin wants to prove that he worth taking the risk for, then he can go ahead and do so even without having Na-ri date or live with both guys. Then allow Jung-won to move on with his life because the guy deserves his own happy ending.

Ultimately, I feel like this show has become Complicate Incarnate. I don't mind twisted and complex but in this instance, the reasons that it has become both seems shallow and unnecessarily convoluted.

I didn't think we needed 24 episodes but now glad that we do. Show, you better use the remaining 6 episodes to save yourself please!!!!!!!

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True, complicate incarnate, :-)

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My thoughts exactly... I've enjoyed this show until episode 14 but now, I just feel frustrated with the three main characters. I really hope that the writers will be able to make sense of all the messy triangles in the next 6 episodes and give us a satisfying ending.

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"To compare the two scenarios where he walked out of the house. First was just because he was miffed that she had kicked him out of bed. But the second walk out was because he was really heart-broken."

I know!! That's when you realise shit's just got real.

"BUT WE WERE ON A BREAK!” Now I definitely want to see that :D

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woops, my reply at 54 was in response to MyGirl2016 at 50.1 ... anywho...

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Same here, since MyGirl2016 mentioned it, I could also imagine that scenario applied here in this drama ?

But I'm not sure I want to see it 'though... still feeling confused and conflicted about the original "BUT WE WERE ON A BREAK" thing with Ross & Rachel hahaha....

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Haha, true. Who would've thought Friends could provoke such a big discussion back then (and I'm sure till this day people are still discussing about it and will forever do so hehe).

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Does anyone know the song that plays when Hwa-shin gets in his manic cleaning-mode this episode? I think they've played it once before, but it doesn't seem like it's going to be on the actual OST.

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Have been wondering why am not enjoying these last two episodes as the episodes before, and I think what's bugging me is the lost of "fair play", sort of. Was loving so much when Na-ri decide to either leave both or date both, coz it's an even playground for both guys. Even when Hwa-shin is super-suffering, it's still fair coz that's his comeuppance for ignoring Na-ri's crush. But this episode showed just how much skewed Na-ri to Hwa-shin. Was even wondering the towel-drop incident is supposed to show how physically cool Na-ri is towards Jung-won, contrary to her being snuggly and touchy with Hwa-shin. Feel so bad for Jung-won, hope Na-ri can admit her feelings to herself, and the guys, asap.
On the mothers triangle too, Ppal-gang has made her choice. Am enjoying the happy, wavering-between-choices moments and hijinks too much. Wish choices could be made without breaking any hearts. Why can't they just be happy all together? *sniff

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That difference of personality shown in sharing household chores/ driving lessons - For the first time in this series, I'm siding with Jung Won. I am still on your ship, Hwashin-ah (coz let's face it, you've crawled in my heart and built a fort there), but I can't help but appreciate the goods they are selling on Jung Won's ship.

Mr. Lee, you need to be more considerate and attentive to your girl - nag less, help out with household chores and cooking... Basically be easy to live with.

I guess the writer-nim wants to show that even with all of HS's flaws, Nari still likes him and has a meaningful connection with him. I wonder how writer-nim is going to redeem HS (if at all) with regards to these flaws. Coz frankly living day-in day-out with someone like that can be a pain. :(

Having said that, JW’s enthusiasm to do all the chores and cook for Nari could just as well be him trying to impress her (by being someone who he is not) to win her over. Like the majority of men around the world, once the deal is sealed, he may be like - “Household chores, cooking, looking after the baby - all fall on your capable shoulders my dear wife. Coz you know I’m very important and busy, with a company to run and everything…”

Or maybe with all that money, he might get her a domestic help! Who knows..

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Holy moly, I’m outta control today. Ok, I swear on the good-natured Kdrama Gods that this will be my last independent comment for this episode.

Just about the humour in this episode - The theatre antics, the NOBODY GETS UP TILL I WIN ALL MY MONEY BACK scene, the 3% and 98%, the imaginary “I can’t trust you Mr. Lee” in the middle of a serious news segment - How do they come up with so many hilarious ideas. Seriously in awe!

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Ha ha.. I laughed out at all those scenes too! :)

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JJS cracks me up! The way he scrunched his nose to push his glasses back? His ocd cleaning and that victorious look when he showed how spotless every surface was ??
JJS you cutie!!???

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Is anyone not concerned about tha cancer lurking in the shadows???

If Hwa-shin gets together with Na-ri this early on and with 6 episodes remaining, don't you think the writer will throw a curveball at us and bring back the cancer on hyper drive mode?? This makes me feel so uneasy that I'm okay if Na-ri chooses Jung-won for now. Ugh. Cancer, why you gotta be sooooo rude!!??

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I'm worried. They'd better not do anything to Hwa-shin or I swear I'll take a stick to all the SBS bigwigs. I don't want to see Hwa-shin develop a bout of noble idiocy and push Na-ri to Jung-won just cuz of the cancer relapse.

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I am hoping they wouldn't bring it up because hwa shin is taking care of himself, right? Maybe in passing but not like like is going to die. He is not actively drinking and also I believe he is getting regular treatment. So, if they pull that card, I ll definitely be disappointed with this show which has consistently surprised me so far.

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I'm one of those who's thinking about the cancer stuff. Maybe HS will get it back or maybe NR this time (remember that it runs in her family).... If not where else can they find more plot to fill the rest of the 6 episodes ??

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You are right, I have no idea what they are going to show us for the next 6 episodes. But, I don't want them to make us think like either of them are going to die. Maybe some complications due to cancer can be shown. Also we have enough secondary (ppal gang and her moms), tertiary (chi yeol, dae goo, chef, hwa shin and Jung won's moms) and quaternary ((lol :P) na ri's step mom, beom, PD oh, the guy who says 'standby', the reporter from England, soo Jung) characters to fill up some time. Also, if they include scenes from the past or include yet another new character like they did the previous episode, they can more or else cover it, I guess. ;)

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Have always feeling the lurking cancer, especially since (as someone mentioned in the comment thread sometime ago) the show has a black comedy vibe in it, was even thinking that the end will be Na-ri + Jung-won with blessing from Hwa-shin before he succumbed to the cancer *knock on woods *really hard!
But since Na-ri's preference is so quickly shown, have hopes now that they will get together soon and, since this show is on a level of is own, it will not be an automatic happy ending but we will be shown the adjustment needed before they actually become a happily ever after. Coz that'll be fun, and Jung-won will always annoys Hwa-shin with "Anytime you are tired of him, I'm here." ^_^

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Pyo Na Ri character is just getting to be so tiresome. What does she thinks? That after all what she did (lying on the phone to HS, enjoying family dinner with JS, all the time shouting and pushing away HS) HS will act like nothing happened?! It is playing with somebody's heart and feelings. I was very happy to see that HS left Na Ri and the house. Good job Dude! If she cannot choose then you have to show her that she can loose you!
However all the signs are showing that Na Ri is very much into HS. All the fights, if HS is sad Na Ri is sad, the way how they show how unfeasible HS is. These signs are all just shout that they will be together at the end. JS role gets less and less attention. In real life it is typical that girls are into "bad" boys and not running after the perfect man, so why should it be different in a k-darama?

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I'm, for once, just enjoying good acting and and unorthodox writing here. Not going to dwell in characters' thoughts and actions too much. Besides. Nothing wrong with a girl keeping two guys she is attracted to on an emotional leash and guessing. I've done it to more than two at the time in my youth and regret nothing in my 40s now.

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This drama should be renamed the drama that isn't a drama.
NR likes HS more, obviously, because he is the co- lead in the show. I have never seen one of these shows where the supporting actor ends up with the lead actress. Second , as the majority of posters prove, nice guys usually finish last .
The next time you ladies get dumped/mistreated by the HS type, don't cry about it . As the saying goes "be careful what you wish for ....."
The analogy to King Solomon is ridiculous ! Read the story !
The child's true mother would rather give him up than see him harmed.
Probably up next NR misunderstands the scene with HS and runs the other way to JW. Then jilts him at the altar when she finally admits she wants to be with the jerk. Just watching to see if my prediction comes through.
They need 24 episodes to play this out ?

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I really love this show - I can't believe I'm happily watching a 24 episode drama, and not getting that lag-in-the-middle letdown. I'm starting to rewatch before it's even over, too. It's really interesting watching the characters' early interactions in view of later developments. I haven't done this since my Hana Yori Dango dozen times through way back when I first got hooked on these shows!

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Yup the story is spinning around. When we all know, HwahShin is the end game. They did not even make ship war exciting and intriguing. They keep on pointing out best and compatible partner is Jung Won (marry him, but end of the day it is HS). It is just lame to force it that way without really intense or more purposeful connection with JW after ep 12. The story ended in that episode.
I won't be surprised if Shopping King Louie will over take them in terms of rating.

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The story has become redundant. Nari now seems just as much of a manipulator as HS. Seems like her character is only keeping JW around as an insurance policy, just in case HS suddenly loses interest. This is the same HS who backstabbed his brother and his best friend and treated NR like dirt until said friend became interested. HS character is a low life who has showed no redeeming qualities. He has even utilized his cancer to manipulate NR into spending time with him and feeling sorry for him. At the end of the day NR and HS deserve each other. I will not even watch anymore, just read the re caps to see how the writers drag out the drama that isn't .
PS-to the women worried about HS character and his cancer, don't worry its only TV. Besides, only the good die young.

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don't forget that they have to give JW certain character flaws so people would "realize" HS was the better guy all along.

here I thought they were going to show us that fairplay, following the rules, being a good guy/friend, WILL pay off if you're watching the right drama. wellllll.... :/

with the direction where the show is going, HS will ultimately come out as the guy everyone will love--- regardless if he dies, gives way to JW, or gets the girl.

nari will either be hated or pitied. Jw will just be that chaebol who has everything in the world so it's OK to make him lose/be hated/turn out bad. or he could chase HS' leftovers (if he gives up/dies) or still be happy being friends with her-- cause everyone in this drama isn't given any dignity or sense whatsoever.

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Thanks for the recap, it makes waiting for the next episode easier, because you unpack so much. #teamhwashin

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I think in the next ep, secret about hwa shin's breast cancer will revealed. Do you guys remember in the ep 6 or 7 there was a scene that hwa shin enter nari's room at office, he saw her on sexy clothes. He talk about his cancer to her. But in the next scene, when hwa shin get out from the room, we saw nari just arrived from elevator. So the one who sleep in the room is not nari. So then, who is the girl? Do you know her? And I think the woman know about hwashin's cancer.

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She's Nari's co-worker, also a weathercaster.

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nari ah?
how to be you???
i love the guys... both of them...
choosing one means letting one go....
arghhh i cant...

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"I feel like Hwa-shin proves his greater love and the seriousness of his emotions by refusing to play the share-game anymore, with an attendant understanding that love isn’t a prize to be won or lost."

Actually i would have thought this was a show of his jealousy and pettiness. Nari's rule of initiating skinship basically puts her as the only one in control of the dating situation. Hwashin could be feeling angry after she rejected him despite her fluttering heart and was being passive aggressive by refusing to cooperate with her nicely. When she asks him for his birth date, he doesn't give it easily. When she asks him to teach her driving, he didn't agree as readily as Jungwon but eventually still taught her. i think him"refusing to play the share game" was more along the line of "since she is not giving him what he wants, so why should he give her what she wants (easily)?"

We know that Hwashin wants to experience physical touch with his girlfriend "i want to hold her hand, hug her, kiss her, sleep with her". If Hwashin's love language is physical touch, not being able to initiate skinship easily would frustrate him like in the show.

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And Nari meeting Jungwon's mom instead of Hwashin's mom was probably the last straw.

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its the first kdrama that took the leads so long to get together. maybe there are other dramas too but at least its a first to me and i really enjoy it :)

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After watching ep 19, am i the one who think NR will end up with JW?

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they're starting to ruin his character so I'm not hoping for much. even if she ends up with him, it's still going to be in a way that he will greatly suffer.

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Poor JW~~ let's just forgive him. HS's character were ruined at the very first episode. He deserve to teach HS a lesson after being betrayed.

I might go rampage if they really ruin his character. Then, this drama is just another stereotypical korean drama. I'm tired of main female lead ended up with jerk.

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Unfortunately I don't think there is much drama left in this series. NR will end up with HS. I would be shocked if it ended any other way. I suppose the underlying message here is that the sincere party in the mix is going to get the shaft. The most entertaining thing about this show now is reading the recap and comments thereafter. I cannot believe how dense many of the women are on this site !
Hello ! HS is an unapologetic dirt bag. Pretty much put his own brother in the ground for career advancement, in the process also hurting his niece. Goes after the girl his only friend is interested in. Manipulates said girl with his illness at every turn for sympathy and attention.
JW- dude , you are a CEO, figure this out already. NR is not the innocent girl from the plane that you fell for. Seems now like she never was that person.
NR- beautiful woman but now as manipulative as HS. Keeps JW around for insurance in case the latter jilts her. This will probably play out over the next episode or 2 as poor , innocent HS got kissed by his co worker.
Agree with a previous poster, the show pretty much ended in episode 12 and for all intensive purposes was over at the end of 14. The 2 leads are fundamentally dishonest, they deserve each other.

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put his own brother in the ground for career advancement?!!!Manipulates girl with his illness at every turn for sympathy and attention?!!! NR Keeps JW around for insurance in case the latter jilts her?!!!! hey you have the right to hate one of the characters ore more but you cant change the facts of story! did i see a different show than you cause non of the things you said were in the drama!

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@rc you're so mean calling girls that enjoy a drama dense. you need to grow up! not all girls have the same taste in drama guys!

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I rather prefer that the writer give Jw a break and just let him walk away from the drama. Dont even give him a "better girl", cause that would feel like a cop-out to justify his loss. He's never wanted anything so badly in his life, and anything other than nari's love is a poor substitute. don't turn him into an easy man, just let him learn and live his life as a wiser and stronger person.

Regardless of the theme of love, mistakes, and second chances, I feel that they are not being fair over the fact that Hs Did "steal" Jw's girl. I know a person cannot be stolen, but I have no better term for it (does "covet" work?) if nari and hwashin love each other, that's fine, but give Jungwon a break, some people seem to forget what his bestfriend (and exgf) did to him. I wish the writer didn't turn him into such a sorry character by making him one of the catalyst so that the lead guy would "change". (hwashin is not the only person that is pitiful in this mess, writer nim)

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there is no way that NR will end up with JW. sorry but he is not the main lead and he isnt in some of the drama posters.

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yeah i think youre the only one cause even before the drama starts i know HS will end up with the girl. too obvious because he is the lead!

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somebody please tell me the name of song in ep 19 when HS is dancing on the rooftop. btw he was so cute on the rooftop :)

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I've been trying to figure it out since a few episodes ago. They play it every now and then, but it definitely doesn't seem like it's on the official OST. It's hard to Shazam it because there's always background noise.

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@Chandler oh,ok! please let me know if you find out. thank u :)

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Nari is annoying me so much in this episode, I mean it was pretty funny when she was testing them and stuff, but its obvious she likes HS more so why is she stringing along Jw?She keep's playing the cat and mouse game which would be fine at the beginning but its gone on for too long now and she hasn't taken ownership of her feeling's acting all innocent when really she must have some clue what shes doing to both men?

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