W–Two Worlds: Episode 6
by girlfriday
I feel like I’m still recovering from yesterday’s episode. The show seems like it’s recovering too, because we’re a little lighter on the nonstop thriller-suspense-WTF-OMG today, and we spend a little time focusing on our heroine and her relationships. It’s time for a cold hard dose of reality in her life, which is often the hardest thing for a fangirl to embrace. But (sadly) real life is not a manhwa, and there are life-and-death consequences to be faced when her hero seemingly goes rogue.
EPISODE 6 RECAP
A gun goes off in Dad’s workshop, and outside, Su-bong immediately falls to the ground, convinced that he’s been shot. He hasn’t, of course, but inside Dad slumps to the floor with a big gaping wound in his chest, and Kang Chul looks down at him, eerily calm about the whole thing. But! You just shot your creator!
Su-bong’s jaw hits the ground when the manhwa hero he’s been drawing scenery for just walks out the front door holding a gun. Kang Chul pauses and says that if he calls emergency now, Dad might live. That’s it, and he walks away.
Yeon-joo can’t handle being trapped in the slowest cab in all of Seoul and gets out to run the rest of the way. She’s terrified because the last thing she heard was the sound of the gunshot, and by the time she reaches the front gate, it’s pouring rain and the place is surrounded by cops and paramedics.
She runs inside where Su-bong is wailing, his shirt covered in Dad’s blood. The paramedics are working on moving Dad’s body, and he looks alive… barely. Yeon-joo rushes to his side, screaming, “Dad! Daaad!” eyes filled with terror. Mom gets the call from Su-bong, and goes numb from the shock.
In the ambulance, Yeon-joo takes over CPR when Dad’s pulse starts to drop, and she pleads with him to hang on and not be scared. They arrive at her hospital, where she barely holds it together as she updates Professor Crazy Dog, her hands still pressed on Dad’s heart.
She enters the operating room, and Crazy Dog is actually nice for once, kicking her out for her own good. He insists that it’s because he can’t handle the pressure of her watching, but Yeon-joo’s on the verge of tears the whole time, and as soon as she exits, she breaks down in sobs.
Su-bong comes up and says in a shaky voice that it was Kang Chul—Su-bong saw him in the flesh with his own two eyes. Yeon-joo’s hand closes up into a fist and she asks if anyone saw where Kang Chul went. Oh no, are you enemies now? Say it ain’t so!
Su-bong says that her father was right, and that he had a reason for wanting to kill Kang Chul all this time—he must’ve known this would happen. He asks why Yeon-joo saved Chul, sighing that if she’d only not saved him, this wouldn’t have happened. “He’s just a manhwa character,” Su-bong argues.
Mom arrives and holds Yeon-joo’s hand, and in the operating room, Crazy Dog takes out the bullet and says it’s a good thing it stayed intact. He puts it in the pan, and it’s a real bullet—no cartoon fakes here.
Down in the lobby of the hospital, Kang Chul walks up to the front desk and leaves a letter for Yeon-joo, asking for it to be delivered to her. He says nothing else, and heads back out into the rain.
The next morning, news breaks of Dad’s shooting. He’s still alive, but still hasn’t regained consciousness. Dad’s editors at the publishing house see the news and wonder if they should call Yeon-joo, because something is going on with the webtoon—they stare at the screen and say it’s strange.
Yeon-joo sits by Dad’s bedside and clutches his hand, unable to hold back her tears. Seok-bum comes by and urges her to get some sleep, and promises to stay here next to Dad. You’re a good friend.
Yeon-joo gets a call from Dad’s publisher, who hesitates to bother her with the webtoon at a time like this. But he says it’s odd that he received a new issue in the middle of the night, when it couldn’t have been Dad who sent it. Wait, the manwha is still going? Does that mean Kang Chul got back to his world??
The publisher says it looks like her father’s artwork though, and he wonders if maybe Dad had finished the issue beforehand and scheduled it to send. He says the content is odd too, so he wanted to double check with her before putting it up online.
Yeon-joo asks if she can see it first, and hesitates before opening the email from the publisher. When she finally clicks, she finds the newest episode called “Kang Chul’s Awakening.”
The issue details Kang Chul’s moment of self-awareness when he discovers that he’s a manhwa hero, and his journey across universes into the real world, where he found Yeon-joo in the hospital and shot his creator. Whaaat. The story continued in her world? This is turning my brain into mushy goo.
In flashback, we see that the night of Dad’s shooting, Kang Chul wandered the streets aimlessly, still holding the gun in his hand. He eventually dropped it on a pile of trash, and that gave him pause—it’s what his family’s killer did in the manhwa, and he winced to realize he’d become the same.
He kept wandering as the rain came down, and he stopped in front of a poster for W, calling him “this generation’s guardian of justice,” wondering if he’d finally catch his family’s killer. It was as if the words were mocking him.
Chul stepped inside a convenience store to buy a pen and paper, and sat down to write Yeon-joo a letter. As he writes her name on the envelope, the image turns into the webtoon frame that Yeon-joo is staring at in her office.
And then on cue, the nurse walks in and hands her that very letter. Yeon-joo stares at the matching envelopes in hand and on her screen, and then tears it open to read. The whole thing isn’t visible, but in the latter half he writes, “And thank you. Now I can leave knowing the truth about my life. To a hero who turned into a murderer while looking for a murderer, there isn’t a more fitting ending than this, is there? So… goodbye…”
Alarmed, she goes back to the webtoon and scrolls past the letter, and the next frame shocks her—it’s Hangang Bridge, where Dad made Kang Chul jump the first time.
The image fades into the flashback from the night before, as Kang Chul stood on the ledge of the bridge in the pouring rain.
His smile was bittersweet, and then he let go, his body falling in slow motion to the river down below. He sank to the bottom, and the screen fades back into the webtoon on Yeon-joo’s screen. She quickly scrolls down, and the next image shows him drowning… with “The End” stamped down in the corner. Nooooooo!
She gasps and runs to the bridge, terrified, but it’s morning now and there’s no sign of Kang Chul. She crouches to the ground in defeat and lets the tears come.
Yeon-joo’s mom sits by Dad’s bedside spilling tears of her own, when suddenly Dad opens his eyes. Oh thank goodness.
At the same time, Yeon-joo and Su-bong speak with the detective on Dad’s case, who tells them that there are a lot of anomalies that he can’t account for. The CCTV in front of Dad’s house didn’t capture anyone going in or out, and they can’t locate the gun, or even the bullet that the surgeon pulled out of Dad’s chest.
While he says this, we see the gun in question turn into a manhwa drawing and disappear, and the same thing happens to the bullet. What.
Yeon-joo and Su-bong give each other the side-eye and keep their mouths shut, and they go to see Dad in the hospital. They tell him that Kang Chul committed suicide on the bridge and that it became the manhwa’s ending, and the publisher is waiting for their approval to upload the last issue.
Su-bong says that he and Yeon-joo have worked out the best possible cover story for Dad’s shooting and the manhwa’s ending, and the next thing we know, the webtoon goes online and the news broadcasts a story about W creator Oh Sung-moo’s suicide attempt, brought about by severe stress and depression over the series ending.
Naturally the manhwa’s ending has the public in an uproar, and fans are beyond upset at the story’s bleak finale and lack of closure for Kang Chul. Crazy Dog is so deflated that he forces Seok-bum to drink with him that night.
A month later, Dad’s workshop is all packed away and cleaned out of anything having to do with W. Yeon-joo puts everything in boxes and then goes to meet with Dad’s publisher, and tells him that Dad hates hospitals so much that they’ve moved him back home and she’s staying there to take care of him.
The publisher says that there are still protests being held by loyal fans, asking to bring Kang Chul back from the dead. The director of the movie adaptation is sitting next to him and sighs that no one will want to see a movie about a hero that dies that way.
They plead with Yeon-joo to ask Dad if he’ll consider bringing Kang Chul back and continuing the series, or even just rewriting the ending. The publisher says it would just take a few frames, but Yeon-joo is firm and says no—Dad is retiring, and he’s been through more stress than they could imagine.
She says it’s not something she could ever ask of him, and makes it clear that Dad’s retirement is final. The publisher turns into a blubbering mess, whining that it’s such a deflating ending to have a hero just die like that without purpose or honor, not even in a cool or emotionally satisfying way.
But Yeon-joo finds herself saying the thing she never thought she’d say: “It’s a manhwa… It’s just a manhwa hero—don’t empathize too much. You’ll forget it soon.” Perhaps she’s saying it more to herself.
Yeon-joo comes home and tells Dad that she made his position clear with the publisher, and he approves. Yeon-joo doesn’t seem so ready to let Kang Chul go, but truthfully, neither does Dad.
Su-bong rushes over with news that the police have found a body in the river that could be Kang Chul, and Yeon-joo is stunned. He rushes her out so they can go identify the body, and Dad watches them go with an inscrutable expression.
Yeon-joo is lost in thought the whole way there, while Su-bong worries about the fact that they can’t exactly identify the body, even if it is Chul. They arrive at the morgue and the police officer says it will be difficult to look at a body that’s been decaying for a month, but Yeon-joo assures them that she’s a doctor and can handle it.
Su-bong can’t though, and pukes as soon as they lift the sheet. Yeon-joo takes a careful look and breathes a sigh of relief when she confirms that it’s definitely not Kang Chul, because this man is wearing a ring.
At the dinner table, Dad probes about where she went with Su-bong today, and Yeon-joo tells him about the body. She wonders why they haven’t been able to find Chul yet, and says with a bit of hope in her voice that he must’ve returned to his manhwa world—that seems fitting since he’s a manhwa character, she thinks. Dad says he doesn’t really know.
She asks, “Dad, when a manhwa says ‘The End,’ what happens after that? Does that world just stop there, or do they live on and we don’t know about it? Fairytales always end that way: ‘And they lived happily ever after.’ But did they really live well until they got old and died, or did it just stop on that last page the moment the fairytale ended?”
Dad reflects on her question and asks if she wants him to bring Kang Chul back from the dead like everyone else, and Yeon-joo quickly says no—he has no reason to do that. Dad says that there’s a reason he can’t do it, and a reason he won’t do it.
He tells her that a week ago, the cops officially closed the case on his shooting and returned his tablet computer, the one that he smashed and left in the motel. They had collected it for evidence, but had no more use for it. Dad admits that when it was returned to him, he wondered if he should bring Kang Chul back. Yeon-joo’s eyes widen.
Dad tells her that he knows Kang Chul better than anyone, and he knows without a doubt that Chul could’ve shot him in the heart and killed him instantly if he’d meant to. Dad decided that since Kang Chul had left him the choice to live, he’d do the same for Chul. In flashback, Dad had turned on his tablet to the closing frame of the webtoon, and began to erase “The End.”
Except it wouldn’t erase. Ohhhhhhh…
Yeon-joo asks why, and Dad says he doesn’t know. He wonders if maybe he and Kang Chul betraying each other severed their ties. Dad says that’s the reason he can’t draw Kang Chul back to life, and the reason he won’t is: Yeon-joo.
Dad: “Do you know why you kept getting pulled into that world?” She doesn’t, but Dad says he figured it out when he saw that Chul left his final letter to her: “You’ve become a main character in the manhwa. You’ve become the heroine. That’s why we have to end it here. Because you’re a real person. And Dad’s daughter. And Mom’s daughter.”
She looks heartbroken, but nods yes. Dad says those are the reasons that W ends here. When she’s alone though, Yeon-joo’s thoughts linger on the idea of “The End,” and what it really means—did Kang Chul ever get a funeral, or is his body still floating in that cold river… forever?
A few weeks later, Dad is on the mend and even goes to New Zealand on holiday with his buddies, and Yeon-joo calls with last-minute instructions for him to take his meds and not drink a drop of alcohol.
When she hangs up with Dad, Crazy Dog suddenly comes into her office and smells her hair. Huh? He notes that she washed it and orders her to come with him to lunch. Well, your nickname is certainly apt, sir.
He takes her to a fancy restaurant, and explains offhandedly that he’s supposed to set his friend up on a blind date today, but the female colleague canceled at the last minute, so Yeon-joo has to be the substitute. He argues that she was the only one in the hospital who’d washed her hair today. LOL.
Yeon-joo curses her clean hair, especially when she so often doesn’t wash it, though she seems to change her mind when she spots a handsome, well-dressed man approaching their table. But he goes in another direction, and ha, She Was Pretty’s Ahn Se-ha comes over to them instead.
Yeon-joo cringes, and Crazy Dog talks up his friend, saying that there’s no such thing as a man who’s tall, good-looking, and smart anyway. Yeon-joo immediately thinks of Kang Chul, of course, and says that they do exist. Crazy Dog: “Who, me?” Pff.
Even funnier is the fact that Ahn Se-ha is playing his She Was Pretty character Poong-ho. His eyes turn to saucers when he sees Yeon-joo, and Crazy Dog misinterprets her incredulous laughter as happiness.
Seok-bum texts Yeon-joo to ask if having washed hair turned out to be lucky or unlucky, and she excuses herself to go to the bathroom and tells him it’s a big ol’ fail. Yeon-joo decides that she’s been ignoring her love life too much lately, and that it’s time to meet new guys, a new one every week, she decides.
Suddenly the line goes dead on both sides, and Seok-bum and Yeon-joo check their phones thinking that the reception cut out. But as Yeon-joo looks around her, she’s immersed in water, which rises rapidly up to her chin, all the way up until she’s completely submerged. Aaaaaaah, is it the Han River?! It came to her?! This is crazy and cool.
At first she tries swimming up, but then she looks around and spots him in the distance: It’s Kang Chul, just suspended there like he hasn’t moved in all this time.
She starts swimming towards him, but it’s so, so far. It takes all her strength to get close to him and she reaches out a hand to his, but just before they can touch, he starts to sink further and further away from her. She tries to reach out again, but she’s losing air, and she’s forced to go back up to the surface.
She swims up, and suddenly reappears in the bathroom, sopping wet from head to toe and gasping for air. WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT?
Yeon-joo is completely shaken up after seeing Kang Chul like that, and marches back to the table dripping water everywhere. She asks for a phone (she dropped hers in the river while trying to swim to Kang Chul), and checks the webtoon. Right before her eyes, “The End” disappears from the last frame and gets replaced with “To be continued.” YESSSS!
Without a word of explanation, Yeon-joo walks out on the blind date and runs to Su-bong, who’s now working as an assistant for She Was Pretty’s Hwang Suk-jung, a crazy lady who demands that her manhwa characters get eyes the size of saucers.
Yeon-joo grabs him and says they have to go save Kang Chul, and Su-bong looks at her like she’s got a screw loose. Yeon-joo says they can save him, because time hasn’t passed for Chul—he’s suspended in that moment, where the manhwa ended.
She says he’s still there in the river, and she saw it herself because she was there. Su-bong finally notices that she’s drenched in water and gasps.
They rush back to Dad’s workshop and Su-bong fields a call from the publisher, who says that they didn’t alter the webtoon on their end. The online response is immediate, and people everywhere start to leave comments in anticipation of Kang Chul’s comeback. Dad is still on his flight to New Zealand, so Su-bong says he’ll check in and call the publisher back.
Yeon-joo brings out Dad’s tablet and says it’s been fixed, and she thinks maybe they can use it to save Kang Chul. Su-bong is still shocked and asks if Dad wasn’t the one to change the webtoon, but Yeon-joo reminds him that he’s on a plane, and couldn’t alter it even when he wanted to.
Su-bong, ever the slow one: “So you’re saying that ‘The End’ changed to ‘To be continued,’ all by itself? Why?!” Yeon-joo looks at him wide-eyed: “I don’t know!”
He can’t understand it, especially when it’s not like they tried to kill him off for no reason like before. The hero killed himself, and it ended… so why isn’t it ending, he asks. Yeon-joo thinks on it and says, “He must’ve found a new reason that it couldn’t end.” Su-bong asks what, but Yeon-joo doesn’t know.
At the same time, two bicyclists come upon a hooded figure standing on the ledge of a bridge. Whoa, it’s the killer from Kang Chul’s world! But… is this Yeon-joo’s world? How did he get here?
The bicyclists call out to him and say that it’s dangerous, and suddenly the hooded figure turns on them and swoops down to attack them. As he flies down toward them, we see his face flash—it’s made up of pixels that spark in and out, the way the webtoon frame did when Kang Chul stepped through into this world. What… are you?
Back at the workshop, Su-bong still doesn’t understand why they’re supposed to save Kang Chul when the manhwa ended, and Yeon-joo yells that Chul can’t save himself, and doesn’t have the will to live, which means that they have to save him.
She says that no time has passed in the manhwa, which means they can draw a boat with divers passing by, and they can save Chul in the very next frame. Su-bong is aghast when he realizes that she means for him to draw this, and he cries that W is her father’s work, not his—there might be a miniscule difference in the artwork, but it will be noticeable.
Yeon-joo shouts that Dad won’t do it, because he’s afraid that she’ll get sucked back into the manhwa world. Su-bong runs with that, pointing out her wet hair. But… isn’t that proof that she has no control over that anyway?
She knows he’s right—that Kang Chul shot Dad, that it’s going to be hard for him to be forgiven, that this cursed manhwa ought to end, and that she can’t keep getting sucked into that world. She knows all that, but she says that Dad is alive and well, and they’re all going on as if nothing happened, and people will move past it because it’s just a manhwa character.
“But Kang Chul is in that cold river, feeling guilty that he’s become a murderer… for over two months all alone… That’s too much,” she cries. Su-bong softens a little, and Yeon-joo breaks down as she admits that she thinks it’s all because of her. The tears totally work on Su-bong, and he caves and agrees to try. Yeon-joo says that everything started on Dad’s tablet, so it should work to save him now. Su-bong braces himself and picks up the pen…
But hours go by and he gives up in the middle of drawing the rescue boat. The story doesn’t make any sense because there’s no linking narrative, and he says this is outside his capabilities because he’s just the assistant—W isn’t his.
Su-bong suggests waiting for Dad to land in New Zealand and breaks for a snack, and Yeon-joo hangs her head knowing that Dad will never start drawing this manhwa again. But Su-bong suddenly has a light bulb moment in the kitchen (with a light bulb overhead, heh), and says he heard something once years ago from her father, about W and Yeon-joo…
Cut to: Prison visiting booths, where guards suddenly discover Yeon-joo lying on the ground in her prison jumpsuit, right where she’d disappeared from, the last time she was in Kang Chul’s world.
We rewind to the moment that Chul jumped off the bridge on that rainy night, but this time a rescue boat sees him and divers bring him up to the surface right away. Kang Chul wakes up with a start in his bed, as if it’s all a dream. But his hand still has the scars from his fight with Dad. And he’s back in his world…
And in the prison, Yeon-joo opens her eyes and looks around, and breaks into a huge smile. Awwww yeah, we’re back!
COMMENTS
What did Su-bong tell her?! Gah, these cliffhangers! My guess is still that Yeon-joo will turn out to be Kang Chul’s original creator, at least on a conceptual level. It probably never occurred to her or Dad because she was young at the time, and he was likely inspired by one of her drawings. But maybe if she drew Kang Chul first and then he spun the character into a story worthy of a manhwa series, it’s possible that Yeon-joo really IS the key to Kang Chul’s life, in a way that he never even imagined. I don’t know if that’s where they’re going, but I know I would love it if Yeon-joo had creator-god power over Kang Chul’s world.
Dad made it clear that his ties to the manhwa had already been severed, which he assumed was caused by his and Kang Chul’s mutual betrayal. But now I wonder if the root of that change is something different, and if it has to do with Yeon-joo. Clearly Dad had control over Kang Chul’s story to some extent, but is it really that Chul’s will overcame his own, or does it have to do with what Yeon-joo wanted for the story, and for Kang Chul to get what he wanted? Does he actually have less free will than he thinks? It was so interesting to see that Dad has affection for Chul too, despite only showing abject horror at his rogue creation up until now. But he does have a soft fatherly devotion to the character, and I found that fascinating and realistic. Dad ultimately still can’t be trusted when it comes to Kang Chul, since he would throw Chul under the bus (literally) the second he proved himself dangerous, but I really enjoy the complexity of this character that loves and despises, fears and understands his creation more than anyone.
The more that Yeon-joo starts to take over the storytelling, I keep thinking of W the manhwa as a daddy-daughter bedtime story. Despite the scale of the manhwa, at its basic level W is not that different from a bedtime story Dad tells to his daughter, where he gets to make up all the rules as he invents the story, and she gobbles up the fantasy world with delight. I love that Yeon-joo represents the innocent child—she asks him all the things a child would ask, like what a happily-ever-after really means for the characters in that story world, and whether their lives go on even if the story ends. But the part that’s interesting is that she’s an active participant in the storytelling, like a father saying, “Once upon a time, there was a princess in a pink dress in a castle,” and the daughter goes, “No! A blue dress! In a penthouse!” and Dad goes, “Okay, a blue dress in a fancy penthouse then…” The story is Dad’s, but it’s also the daughter’s, and it’s as if Yeon-joo is changing the story by interjecting to say that she doesn’t like the direction things are going in. And because the story is ultimately hers—he invents it and keeps it going to make her happy—she has that power.
I don’t know what it’ll mean for Yeon-joo now that she’s become, as Dad says, the heroine of Kang Chul’s story—that’s a complication that’ll surely have dire consequences down the line. But there was a distinct shift in this episode to Yeon-joo being the main storyteller who drove Kang Chul’s narrative. Whatever she does at the end of the episode successfully restarts his entire world and brings him back to life, and I’m pretty sure she didn’t sit there and draw all that out. It has to be tied to her will somehow. But then, was she also the one who caused the bathroom to flood and turn into the Han River? Or was Kang Chul calling out to her? Maybe he was about to walk towards the light when he heard her say that she’d be going on a blind date every week?
And how come no one knows that W’s villain is different from the rest of the characters in that world? How come he didn’t freeze like everyone else? Did he cross over into the world via Kang Chul’s portal… or does he have a portal of his own? Ack. Please don’t tell me he can just move freely between worlds—I don’t know if I can handle a faceless assassin just showing up wherever he pleases. Is he human? Is he a glitch? Is he faceless because Dad doesn’t know what he looks like?? Ohmygah, please just draw him a face already—it’s creeping me out that he doesn’t have one! If he looks that way because Dad never bothered to decide his identity or give him a face, my mind is blown. Note to any writers out there: Everyone deserves a face!
I have so many questions about the gun and bullet suddenly disappearing from Yeon-joo’s world, and Kang Chul returning to his world despite dying and being suspended in the river. But I’m sure that stuff will be unraveled soon enough. I have to say, I’m excited for the return to Kang Chul’s universe, because things get wackier over there, and now Yeon-joo will have a whole new set of narrative rules to navigate—whatever power it is that sent her back there. The only downside is less screen time for Yeon-joo’s friends, but I’m hoping we cut back and forth often. Because I can never get enough of Su-bong’s shock-face, probably because it mirrors mine as I watch every episode of this show.
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Tags: Episode 6, featured, Han Hyo-joo, Kim Eui-sung, Lee Jong-seok, Lee Shi-un, W–Two Worlds
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101 J Hee
August 5, 2016 at 2:48 AM
who is the cute guy before the fat guy appeared? lol.
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Sancheezy
August 5, 2016 at 2:53 AM
I asked the same thing before but got no replies,
still lurking here for getting some name . . . .
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Miky
August 5, 2016 at 10:31 AM
and for a moment i believed Kang Chul would appear behind the first dude only to see The Secret Chaebol from "She Was Pretty" make him entrence
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celine
August 5, 2016 at 5:23 PM
I had the same idea, but then I realized that it's not possible not because KC's dead, but because LJS's a freakin' tower and we should've seen him behind the first dude as they walk down the stairs. lmao
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102 oppaslayer
August 5, 2016 at 2:49 AM
My mind is constantly blown by this drama. I have a permanent resting WTF face now. Also let me just say how beautiful LJS is. He's like 70% legs, 10% shoulders, and 20% lips.
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SapientSoul
August 6, 2016 at 1:54 AM
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celine
August 6, 2016 at 10:44 PM
Yep, sounds about right re: LJS!
"Permanent resting WTF face"! I love that and it is so true! My vocabulary recently is just a bunch of curses and gibberish all thanks to this drama! haha
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103 FierySkye
August 5, 2016 at 2:51 AM
Whose grand idea was it to only broadcast two eps a week? I demand a word with them. I don't think I can do this waiting a whole week thing after tomorrow...
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celine
August 5, 2016 at 5:21 PM
Prepare yourself for probably two weeks of no W because of Olympics. I feel you. There's not enough W and LJS and 2 per week is torture. I've been toying with the idea of waiting until the drama ends to binge-watch, but then I'd missed out on the discussions and fangirling, so here I am still waiting for Wednesday.
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104 blessingwind
August 5, 2016 at 3:29 AM
WOW. this is the BEST DRAMA OF THE YEAR 2016. Loving it so much. I have never been this much invested over a drama, until Signal.
Oh yeon joo is the real creator of Kang Chul. During ep 5, the flashback, when Oh yeon joo parents were arguing she was drawing some male character. Her dad must have taken up that idea and improvised the look, to make Kang Chul. She the one saving him,whenver her dad tries to make Kang Chul die, yet, it doesnt go her father's intentions, because she is the one who originally created Kang Chul. So she is literally, the key to existence of Kang Chul's life.
there is a connection or a switch which brings Oh yeon joo to the comic world. From what i noticed, whenever she is on the phone call, she gets dragged to his world,or to him. It doesnt happen every single time, but like 3 times it happend. One was during when she was outside the cafe when she was talking to her father on phone, the next bus stop when she was talking to his father's assistant, the 3rd time, she was on phone talking to the doctor friend.
I most probably think, whenever Kangchul's life is in danger, she gets kind of dragged to his world. First one, when he was stabbed , then next, when he is drowning in the river. These situations, can easily kill the Kang Chul, but Oh Yeon Joo doesnt wish for him to die, and so, she gets dragged and the end saves him.
This show is way too intriguing. It makes your brain does a lot of thinking. The show really has surpassed my expectations. I just dont know what is going to happen next. In some shows, its really predictable. But this one just takes the cake, making us glued to our screens, till the last minute.
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105 wackycashew
August 5, 2016 at 3:58 AM
Thanks for the recap, GF! I feel the same way every time!
Gosh, with each ep, they give your more info to answer some questions just to tease your brain with more!! I'm glad they slowed down a bit in this ep after the previous one so that we can take a breath and absorb some of the new tidbits. Dad no longer being able to draw and alter the story is interesting. I'm almost anticipating YJ's own involvement at that point cuz who else would care enough for KC. I'm glad that Dad still had affection for KC, not just cuz he created him and has those fatherly feelings, but realizing that KC never meant to finish him off with his shot and felt that he ought to give KC a second chance at life.
The mind-blowing scene for me was YJ suddenly being submerged in the Han River by just being in the bathroom. What was the force that pulled her there? KC not willing to let go yet and reaching out to her? Maybe it WAS because of the weekly dating thing. XD
So, now we know that "The End" is actually suspension in time for the main character. I'm really curious what happened to drive the plot change with the divers and rescue. After all, SB couldn't make it happen since the drawing was lifeless by his hands. I think you're right on the money that it's probably YJ's will, especially if she was truly the original creator that inspired Dad to draw KC. I love your bedtime stories analogy.
Dang! The faceless culprit!! I knew he'd be crossing over in YJ's world since they can't possibly have Dad and KC both dead at this point in time. But that was scary to see his face flashing. I didn't think of the flash as like the flash KC saw while crossing over the webtoon frame since he's already in this side of the world. I just assumed it flashed cuz it's got no face or identity yet, and since he's just a plot device character, that would be how he appears for now.
The hospital scene was heartbreaking when YJ broke down. And you can tell Mom still cares about Dad a lot. I hope Dad will just take it easy for the next little while with his buddies in New Zealand.
The gun and bullet disappearing is also intriguing. It's like once KC has "died" and he is not really of this world, his actions become undone? After all, he didn't show up on CCTV at all. It's like he's not a real entity that can be captured by footage in this world. But others can obviously see him when he's alive and moving about.
Ending scene was such a mix of emotions for me. I cheered that KC has been revived and YJ is back in that world. The girl is overjoyed that he's alive again and I feel for her--knowing that what's ahead won't be easy but at least he is here.
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106 Jusinhaxxl
August 5, 2016 at 4:07 AM
What i like the most in this drama.... i never know wth is going to happen next....hihihi i'm addicted!!!!!?????
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107 Sofia
August 5, 2016 at 5:13 AM
This may be a bit of a stretch but Kang Chul and the faceless killer could be the manifestations of Yeon Joo and Dad's feelings. Kang Chul was created with hope and came from good intentions while the killer was conjured when dad was experiencing negative feelings...maybe that's why they both got sucked into that world? And that the killer isn't actually a 'real' person with an identity but Dad putting a face or personifying his anger and guilt? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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thursdaynexxt
August 5, 2016 at 6:30 AM
@ Sofia: I kind of agree that the Hooded Killer has no real identity and is a personification of Dad's anger and guilt.
I'd go one step further and say Hooded Killer dude also reflects all of Dad's weakness, resentments and insecurities about failure (as a writer, as a husband, about being a bad father) - as Kang Chul pointed out.
While Dad deliberately created Kang Chul as having all the qualities that Dad lacked himself, the Killer came into being carrying Dad's desperation and fears. The Killer even reflects Dad's qualities of passiveness, laziness and giving up easily: he hasn't got a real face or identity, since Dad didn't "create" him properly; he's pretty incompetent since he's failed numerous times to kill Kang Chul, so he targets the people around Kang Chul. The Killer = all the grey and negative energy of Dad's alcohol-fogged existential crisis.
But it's also true that Dad kept going with the manwha as his way of ultimately making Yeon Joo happy. The decisions he made about Kang Chul and the story are all infused with his love and concern for his daughter (which he couldn't show any other way). So maybe Dad's sole chance at redemption lies in whether he can overcome his past fears and defeat the Killer by actively supporting Yeon Joo's happiness (with the cartoon hero that he/she created)?
Talk about a made-to-order son-in-law ...
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108 purpleowl
August 5, 2016 at 5:21 AM
Did my thread disappear? Did I imagine commenting and never actually do it? *gasp* am I a Manhwa character?
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celine
August 5, 2016 at 5:18 PM
oh hon, it must be your device. We see you (well at least I see you lol) just fine. I find that it's better to post and read on laptop/pc than tablet or phone. My tablet could not show all comments and there are no page 2, 3, etc. I don't know why I don't see my latter comments as well as others' comments. However, when I go on my laptop, there they are.
Let's put the idea that you're a manhwa character behind for now. hehe! Nice touch though. :D
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109 purpleowl
August 5, 2016 at 5:29 AM
I'm officially certifiable. I have no idea what happened to my comment. And my second comment about losing my comment, disappeared too. I wonder if it's my phone versus tablet, it was deleted by the overlord and her minions (if so, sorry for whatever policy I broke), or if I never posted in the first place.
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mary
August 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM
I can see all your comments just fine... though I think there's a problem with pagination in mobile. Are you on mobile view? Try switching to desktop view?
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cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 1:11 PM
I've seen it too! Just thought I'd let you know here too, even though you saw it in OT. ^^
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110 angieya
August 5, 2016 at 5:39 AM
I was a bit taken aback by KC's completely calm and even indifferent looking facial expression after he shot dad. I was waiting for him to react to what he'd just done (even if it's just the slightest, barely noticeable change in his expression) but nothing. 8-O
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beanie
August 5, 2016 at 6:13 PM
I was too, to be honest, until I saw that he committed suicide. Then it made sense; I think he was in shock. He wanders aimlessly after the shooting -- it's only when he drops the gun in the trash that he starts to show signs of processing the world around him.
It's very common for the severely depressed to feel "numb", rather than what is typically thought of as "sad or upset". I think the aim of the past two episodes was about getting KC to that place of numbness, systematically tearing him down, so that Writer Song could get his character to a place where he would believably throw away his own life, after fighting so hard to keep it.
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111 cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 6:07 AM
...And let the waiting begin again. Part of me wants to just stop, wait until it's all out and marathon it. The rest of me tells that part of my brain to shut up and watch.
I think it was a smart choice this week, letting things cool down and back off a bit. And there were so many funny moments in this episode! Especially the She was Pretty cameos. Every time I watch this I think: "gosh, I'm going to enjoy rewatching this series."
Can I pause for a moment and say how much I love YJ facial expressions? Yesterday I mentioned how I wish she could've done more than stay in the car (which she left right at the start of this episode, thank goodness), but I do love her acting. Whenever she's talking with Crazy dog I just sit there like: yup, I'm right there with you hon. He just smelled your hair, yeah it was creepy, you shouldn't--gah! you followed him!
Basically, my mind is still boggled by the show and I don't feel like coherently sorting out my own thoughts. I'll just comment on everyone elses'. Please don't let the ninja-assassin kill dad (or any other real people... or webtoon people) and make sure your bodyguard gets screen time next week, Chul. W, Hwaiting!
PS. I know we can't discuss the previews here but would someone who's watched it just squeal for me really really hard to let me know there're others insanely excited for next week? Insanely incredibly so? I rewatched it to double check and... yup. It's gonna be good.
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FierySkye
August 5, 2016 at 4:46 PM
YESSSSS EXCITED FOR NEXT WEEEEKKKK. *loud squeal*
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cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 8:31 PM
Thank you for that ^^ I needed it. I just really hope we get enough H/h before it all hits the fan.
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beanie
August 5, 2016 at 6:16 PM
Me too!! I adore Han Hyo Joo in this. Every time she's on screen, I love watching her face whenever something ridiculous happens around her. She's hilarious. XD
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112 Lolol
August 5, 2016 at 6:08 AM
The story turned out like the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya
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113 tae
August 5, 2016 at 6:09 AM
I love this show the most creative and kdrama for me compared to other dramas right now.su bong funniest guy ever I love the actor since reply 1997.
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114 Aiir0
August 5, 2016 at 6:15 AM
there's smth that's bothering me : the gun.
It was a good idea from YJ to say that her father tried to kill himself in order to avoid any trouble with the police but how come they aren't supcious of the gun?
It's illegal to have one, how did he get it and where is it now. (We know that the gun & bullet are from the manhwa world so we have an idea but the police don't. Aren't they wondering where did that gun go ?)
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g-unit
August 5, 2016 at 7:23 AM
I presume that they are assuming the gun is still with the shooter b/c they don't know that KC threw it on top of the trash pile
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mochi622
August 5, 2016 at 12:04 PM
But, I think Aiir0 means, if Dad shot himself, why wouldn't there have been a gun in the office next to him? And why is no one investigating how Dad got a gun if it is illegal to have them? We know KC had the gun, but the police have been told Dad had a gun.
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115 Aly
August 5, 2016 at 6:50 AM
The scene where Yeon-Joo is in the bathroom talking on the phone and then suddenly she's submerged in water and transitions to the Han river was just SO COOL. I was so impressed!
I can't wait for the next episode!
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116 cinthy
August 5, 2016 at 6:57 AM
Wednesday where are you??
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117 privatebanker
August 5, 2016 at 7:04 AM
Why do I have a feeling the Nazgul guy could be Seo Do-Yoon?? KC henchmen.
Bcoz:
1.) we don't know his back-story yet, still grey character for me.
2.) he has a good fighting skill, just like the Nazgul guy when he's ambushed KC penthouse.
3.) he IS Kang Chul personal body guard, right? Where is he when KC needs him? As far as I know, body guard have some protocols, at least he should be stand by on KC side in certain parameters.
Oh, W you're so confusingggg!! Either this is a plot hole or just unrevealed yet.
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cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 9:28 AM
Nazgul! Hah, that's so fitting. You're right--he looks like a 21st century LOTR Nazgul! As for the plot holes, I think he was at the prison with Chul when everything stopped... and it's stayed stopped until Chul appeared in the river. From their pov, I don't know how much time has really passed. He'll probably be back at his side in no time. (Or maybe this is just me really wanting him to be a good guy and not a Nazgul).
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118 ssfairy
August 5, 2016 at 7:07 AM
one mindblowing episode after another and I'm so ready for the sweet episodes coming our way next week!!! Kyaaaa My heart is racing so fast!!! I so love this pairing Lee Jongsuk x Han Hyojoo.
Kang Chul and Oh Yeonjoo pls make babies soon hahhaha XD
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119 g-unit
August 5, 2016 at 7:21 AM
The main actress's acting puts me off a bit sometimes and this episode was one of those times when she overreacts I find myself cringing. But can't wait for the next episode anyway because I want to know more rules on how this world works!
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120 Livii
August 5, 2016 at 7:28 AM
I think this is the first episode that underwhelmed me. A lot of unexplained things happened, especially the crazy ending, which I know is probably a set up for next week or things that will get revealed over later episodes. But since all the prev eps have had their own internal logic, this one just made me irritated, esp when YJ kept saying the details were not important. Well they are, esp cuz the show itself has set a precedent for itself. That scene at the end with YJ & Su Bong was also dragged on way too long.
Anyways, looking forward to next week, but worried about the ratings as Olympics are also starting.
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celine
August 5, 2016 at 5:11 PM
Maybe out of all the episodes so far, this would be my least favorite. I agree with what you said that the previous episodes, though they were also WTF-OMG episodes, made sense. However, this one felt weird, disjointed and all over the place for me. I still like it though and I know that the random bits thrown here are there for the next episodes, but I felt that they were not seamlessly sewn together unlike the previous episodes.
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beanie
August 5, 2016 at 6:23 PM
Agree with both of you. It felt like in this episode, things happened because the writer needed them to happen in order to get the characters into place for the next act, rather than because they necessarily made a lot of internal sense. Perhaps if this episode had been split into two episodes, rather than one, it would've felt a bit more seamless?
But who knows? It may be that, after the series is over, a lot of things in this ep will suddenly seem like really obvious clues that we missed. :)
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121 Alessar
August 5, 2016 at 8:37 AM
I think they did a good job showing the fanbase completely freaking out at the off-the-rails ending. Even though she comments that it's just a manwha and to get over it, the thing is people form emotional connections that are genuine to fiction. It's called emotional reality. It's the same thing where people love their pet as a surrogate to a child. You get attached to a beloved character and when they die it's like losing a friend. One of the biggest examples of this was Tara on Buffy the vampire slayer and again this year they killed a beloved character on The 100 in a sudden "oops she's hit by a stray bullet suddenly" manner and the internet had a MELTDOWN.
I think that one of the things that is good about dramas is that with their relatively shorter seasons of about 16 episodes you can really like a character but often you're safe from becoming TOO invested in them so when a show flops at the end it's just annoying not devastating. On the other hand, I think a lot of affection then gets attached to the actors instead. That's not necessarily bad as long as it's not too excessive. Korea certainly does have issues with stalker-fans.
Overall I think the writer is bring some amazing meta from her own TV show experiences in the past into this one and it's just riveting.
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122 zentro29
August 5, 2016 at 9:09 AM
The writer is confusing the same way she confused me with Nine.
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celine
August 5, 2016 at 5:04 PM
She is good at that isn't she. After watching Nine I had to stop and sort out the events of the drama's mind-bending twists. What I like about her is, compared to other stories, her stories make sense amidst the crazy plot twists. In addition, she has a good track record of addressing those in her dramas. Maybe not 100%, so there's still room for the audience to be left confused, but still she's brilliant.
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123 Paige
August 5, 2016 at 9:11 AM
• First of all, Yeon Joo’s mom didn’t do the old sniff and throw method; why did she just put on hanger on a clearly used pair of jeans?
•Soo Bong might be one of the most useless sidekick when it comes to arriving before a gunshot type of situation.
•I so knew that Kang Chul shot at a non-lethal area of his creator’s body.
•So Soo Bong finally tells Yeon Joo about her connection with the manhwa and thus why she got herself back into jail. I swear, no person has ever been happier to be back in prison and be a greatly sought after suspected criminal. And I have never been happier for her to be back in prison. Again with the parallels, in episode 5, Kang Chul was never sadder and angrier to not be a cold blooded murderer.
•So Kang Chul had enough spare change to buy paper and a pen to write his last will and testament to Yeon Joo. But then the gun and bullet eventually returned to the manhwa, so will the cash also disappear? I feel really bad for the cashier or whoever is blamed for the missing cash at that convenience store…also at the bookstore.
•I love how the whole populous of Seoul had a such consensus arrrgg reaction to the wtf ending of their beloved manhwa. They even had a petition for the author to revive Kang Chul…lol because Kang Chul was alive. Can’t say I can’t sympathize with them. The manhwa W have had a really exciting events after another in the real world. I mean after seven years of reading your beloved comic book for it to rapidly degrade to wtfuckery town when the story suddenly changes genres from action to romance and suddenly the main character doesn’t otp with his childhood best friend of ten years but with this rando doctor woman who seemingly appear out of thin air. And then the main character dies not from a cool death that had meaning or significance but suddenly he just effing jumps off a bridge into the Han river. And the author of that manhwa is in critical condition after being shot, and then you get the news that due to “stress” of ending the manhwa, the author shot himself (ohh but the populous doesn’t know that in fact the main character of that very manhwa shot the author himself). Also during the active period where the manhwa continually acts on its own accord, I bet the posting schedule of the manhwa also got jacked up, I mean it’s not like Yeon Joo got sucked in the manhwa bi-weekly or weekly did she?
•Interesting tidbit that a movie adaption of the manhwa was ongoing. I wonder how far the production has come. I wonder if they casted anyone yet. And there might be the whole ‘no matter who they cast they will never live up the Kang Chul of the manhwa’ ordeal.
•I love it that the writer of this drama actually wrote in explanations that elevate the drama where other dramas kind of just drop it. Soo Bong actually explained how he got the call for the unidentified body.
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cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 9:30 AM
I love that she puts in little explanations too! Like she's saying, "yes, it IS possible to have a reason for everything." I hope some of the other questions raised in other threads get answered soon.
And I liked the movie adaption reference as well--It kinda makes me want a movie for the drama.
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124 Paige
August 5, 2016 at 9:12 AM
•Can a family member even be that close to a patient when the ambulance people are treating him at the place of the shooting? When the police officer, both the ones outside the room and inside the room move, I thought they were going to escort Yeon Joo out or at least where she is not grief stricken shaking her father while he is being saved by the paramedics. Also the paramedics said they are taking her father to her hospital…don’t they have to take him to the closest hospital there is?!? Because base on Yeon Joo’s taxi ride last episode, I don’t think her hospital is the closest there is.
•Haha, vicarious satisfaction. The handsome guy going before the real blind date was hilarious. I love the dispersal of comedic moments throughout the episode even though we are rapidly moving into more ‘oh shit moments’
•Speaking of ‘oh shit’ moments, the FUCKING MASKED KILLER IS IN THE REAL FUCKING WORLD. Why did he/she/it move in such a strange way? Was he/she/it trying to jump down or trying to attack the two guys on the bicycle but then the manhwa pulled him/her/it back in before he could do anything? For a nanosecond, I laughed out loud because it was like slapstick comedy the way he fell off the bridge.
•Yeon Joo’s conversation with her dad was one of the weirdest I have ever watched, and I loved it. Oh btdubs dad, I am curious about the further occurrence of the manhwa pertaining to Kang Chul and I went to check out an unidentified body and was relieved and not relieve to find that it wasn’t him.
•Did Oh Seung Mo really wear a Hawaiian shirt to New Zealand? What, was the US not available? Like New Zealand has never appeared in the atlas of kdramaland. And he went to see a “friend”, like everything in this drama makes me question the significance of it pertaining to the plot, cause literally everything is. I hope his relationship with his ex-wife got better. I hope that explore that part more or at least be amiable. Yeon Joo deserves to have some part of her family united again.
•I teared up when Yeon Joo ranted how unfair and cruelly Kang Chul is treated as he miserably drowns in the cold water of the Han river while blaming himself for being a murderer while everyone else gets off scot free (well except, again, the people who gets blame for the missing cash). We knew that she cared for Kang Chul and we identified ourselves with her. But in ep 6, I truly felt Yeon Joo’s feelings towards Kang Chul, and thus further cements her as the key to Kang Chul’s existence.
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125 BROWNCOAT_78
August 5, 2016 at 9:21 AM
I absolutely love that the antagonist also can keep the story moving and start to develop free will. This makes sense and is not just a cop out to get the story moving again. Every story has a protagonist and an antagonist and you cannot have one without the other. And the detail that he has no face because one was never drawn for him is so awesome and so creepy!
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126 Lord Cobol
August 5, 2016 at 10:01 AM
So the same actor seems to be playing roles in 2 series at the same time: doctor in W and ghost-chaser/comic-relief in Let's Fight Ghost.
Which of the following seems least unlikely:
1: He actually has time to play both roles?
2: One part is played by a doppelganger from an alternate universe?
3: He has an identical twin? Raised separately, of course.
4: He's using one of the writer's patented time-jump tricks?
5: He's in a coma. With a split personality so he has TWO ghosts?
6: Lots of caffeine and sleep deprivation.
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Sancheezy
August 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM
I think the PD used pasted his footage for both drama,
it's the PD. dun dun dun dun
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127 Miky
August 5, 2016 at 10:17 AM
That No face killer looks to me like a hallow type of being,as we know he never had an identity of his own and only purpose was to make the hero strong and make the story move on and like how the Hero got his own self awareness and privilege i bet the anti-hero got his privilege as well and being a hollow being,his only purpose is killing Kang Chul and now Yeon Jo(being the main's) and he will not end it till he finish his mission,like he's a white paper with only one sentence "Kill them" in his start up,doubt he knows anything more...
I guess it's safe to say Yeon Jo became the main writer of "W" now
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128 AP
August 5, 2016 at 10:19 AM
i badly wants to watch this one but i am still committed and in hype for Uncontrollably fond. wait for me W two worlds. i am going to watch you after UF. i am excited for this one.
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129 Kfan
August 5, 2016 at 11:05 AM
loving the show and loving it more than anything else w fighting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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130 juleeekkkzzz
August 5, 2016 at 12:04 PM
I don't want next week's sched to be postponed but if Olympics will affect W's rating, then I'll just silently cry while waiting for two weeks =(
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131 helloalexysmile
August 5, 2016 at 12:24 PM
I think we have to remember that in episode 4 we had OYJ clearly out out that she is hoping for his happy ending. So theories on the front that she is pushing the story to go on could be based on just that.
A happy ending would be KC finding the killer, and living a normal life after. The billionaire-hero life isn't ever going to make him happy if he doesn't get to just be at peace.
KC never found his resolve, and he died still playing the role of a good guy with a traumatic role.
In typical stories, the character that goes out for revenge realistically always has to find a full circle, be it he dies because revenge is a one-way street, or they end up forgiving the person and living at peace and in a normal world which is commonly seen as a trope in a story (ALL OF KIM NAM GIL'S SMALL SCREEN CHARACTERS DIED COUGH COUGH)
This was just a story that went nowhere though, it was tiring for even KC.
OYJ is like that relief though, a new character with a new plot to build the rest of the story. The shooting of her father would make for HER traumatic experience in HER storyline, and KC is the key to her active role as a heroine. So Hee will become the second lead, and she can choose to help them out of unrequited love, or switch sides and help the killer.
Since OYJ became the second main character, they are tied to find the killer together to make a full circle.
I think Do Yoon will be the killer. There might be a secret connection between Do Yoon and the prosecutor or something; there was a hint that the bodyguards were called downstairs when OYJ stayed the night and he said "It wasn't from his phone." But little things like that build the storyline.
The only thing irking is the ability to change worlds. But I am also looking at characteristics, like body height and the fighting scenes.
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Sancheezy
August 5, 2016 at 12:38 PM
I read your comment as
- Quen Seon Deok
- Bad Guy
- Shark
it teared me up
love your explanation about W
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132 liz17
August 5, 2016 at 12:56 PM
So aside the plot that is awesome.
i'm the only not feeling HHJ acting?
Sure before she overacting was for comic sake, but the scene with her father dying, I couldn't feel anything. I didn't feel sad for her and I also disliked how she went to help the guy who just shot her dad.
I mean, girl, I know he is hot and all, but he is dangerous. Shot your dad and is COMIC character. Come on now.
I guess I can't buy this romance now. Not after KC shot her dad.
Also, [SPOILER FROM PREVIEW]...... yikes.
I think either HHJ or the writer fault because in Nine and Queen In Hyun man I felt the lead girl character a lot and understand her love.
Guess because I'm thinking KC isn't real, a comic, and it is hard for me imagine them together, and with her dad shot, worse.
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FierySkye
August 5, 2016 at 4:59 PM
I do have some issues with her acting because it doesn't feel fully immersive, but not really on the story front.
Yes, it's hard for me to believe the romance too sometimes, but I'm just not thinking too much about that. It's fantasy, so if we want to make it feel believable, we need to live in the fantasy as well.
As for him shooting her dad- I thought that Yeon Joo would be mad at him, and resent him, but she did exactly the opposite. She knows both their stories. She knows what her dad was trying to do to Kang Chul, and she knows how Kang Chul must have felt. Yeon Joo is a deeply empathetic person, so she understood Kang Chul's reasoning. In addition, her dad told her about how Kang Chul deliberately didn't fatally shoot him. Under as much pressure as KC was, you'd think he'd murder her father instantly but that wasn't the case.
YJ is loving and understanding of both of them...she can't hate one for the other and for that I commend her strength and heart.
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Misery
August 5, 2016 at 5:30 PM
Truthfully he romance isn't as bankable as the story because technically we have really had any romance yet. Just the goodbye kiss, and any feelings developed or romance brewing was king of shot to hell when Kang Chul, well followed the kiss by shooting her dad. I'm sure the real romance front hasn't even been breached yet, and this is Lee Jong Suk we'e talking about, he can romance a cardboard cutout and sell it for all its worth, and even that would be swooney.
About her forgiving him for shooting her dad, I don't think she has since she told Soo Bong that 'yes, it won't be say to forgive Kang Chul for what he did but that still doesn't changs the fact that everyone walked out of it okay and are going on with their lives while Kang Chul is still stuck in time most likely agonizing over what he did' I'm paraphashing here, but she said approximate to that exactly.
And it helps soften the edge, her hearing the entire conversation between dad and Kang Chul and knowing first hand how much he didn't want to shoot him and how much dad goaded him into it and pushed him to the edge. Plus she knows now that dad didn't just kill him in webtooned scenarios, but saw him alive and in the flesh bleeding out and still fatally stabbed him.
Plus Kang Chul paid the ultimate price for shooting appa, he killed himself by jumping of the Han River bridge and died. Most likely was probably frozen in time drowning for 2 months straight with little recourse and constantly reliving the horror of the crime he committed. So yeah, I think he can be forgive and it's not that outside the realms of possibility that Yeon Joo still have feelings for him, since he's still at core the hero of her dreams and imagination which childhood her conjured up when she was in most need of a friend.
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FierySkye
August 6, 2016 at 3:35 AM
Yeah, you're right about the romance thing. It's probably yet to really start.
As for Kang Chul's forgiveness: I don't think YJ forgives him as much as she understands him, both of which have a clear difference. She really feels for both her father and KC, understands both their situations, and probably even feels slightly stuck between then (although she ultimately chose to save KC in the end, and we can see that was bothering her for the whole while when she couldn't find him).
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beanie
August 6, 2016 at 8:38 PM
And let's not forget that she thinks this whole mess is her fault. She's not going to blame either Dad or Chul if she feels responsible for the outcome of the confrontation between them -- she's only going to blame herself.
Cipher
August 6, 2016 at 8:11 PM
Her dad even tried to give KC a chance to live.
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Lolli
August 5, 2016 at 5:25 PM
Well the way I was looking at it, dad stabbed KC first and then left him to die. KC shot dad but at least told someone to call the ambulance plus he didn't shoot to kill. Tit for tat lol.
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133 cozybooks
August 5, 2016 at 2:11 PM
Arrrgh! That moment you finally finish QIHM and feel brave enough to sit down and go through the comments for W... and then you have to go to work. I'll be back!
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134 9jagirl
August 5, 2016 at 5:14 PM
I don't know if anyone has thought of this but I think the faceless killer might be the fans or commentators of the comic. In an earlier episode, dad tells KC that his parents had to die because that's how a hero is born and that is what is usually expected. There often has to be some traumatic experience in the process of becoming a hero -its very unfortunate it had to be the death of his parents. But, most heroes I have noticed always have one missing parent.
My reasoning is based solely on the faceless killer static expression. Fans are able to comment on what's going on in the comic and out of the comic( the situation with dad). However, I am pretty sure they will have to have a concrete killer.
Ahh this drama just melts my brain -it's like a conundrum that cant be answered ( at least not yet)
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135 Ruth Chua
August 5, 2016 at 7:32 PM
I think the new faceless killer is Su-Bong. Some clues...1) he reacted as if he was the one who got shot when hero shot OSM and 2) displaying a great deal of reluctance to draw the toon to bring hero back to life. He was acting very goofy and timid and all that ...but usually the really bad guys are the most unexpected ones!
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136 dazzled
August 5, 2016 at 7:33 PM
Does W stand for Water?
Will?
Is the trigger Water? Water being the conduit for Will and World Travel?
Water in the form of rain, blood, lethal injection, Han River, Ink, Tears? Flushing Toilet? Lol.
Or maybe it just stands for Wireless Technology and we are all just hooked onto this giant Internet like pods in the matrix. Kang Chul just took the Red Pill. Now he becomes a Crime Solving Vigilante not just in Manhwa but in the real world.
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137 mamamia
August 5, 2016 at 7:40 PM
Thanks for the recap girlfriday! Love this drama: never-ending excitement, twists, and turns. Can't wait for the next episode.
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138 Cipher
August 5, 2016 at 8:58 PM
I just want to clap for this line:
If anyone could just draw it, he would have become alive from fanfiction.
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beanie
August 6, 2016 at 8:40 PM
Imagine that fanfiction tho... XD
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139 deanna
August 5, 2016 at 9:09 PM
*this is taken from a tumblr post*
Honestly, the thing that made me happiest this episode was the five-second shot of what was underneath the killer’s murder outfit, and it was sparks and nothingness. The killer is not a person, and that just cranks up the level of difficulty by an order of magnitude on achieving a happy ending, if a happy ending is even possible. How can you arrest or put on trial or kill or even stop a murderous force? What are the victory conditions for this situation?
What of the things that struck me most about this episode was the focus on mirrored stories. How Chul tossed the gun and then paused and smiled when he realized the bitter irony of what he had just done, how his own actions had so closely paralleled the murders of his family. How he returned to the Han River Bridge to die when he could have committed suicide any other way, because that’s how Seung-moo originally tried to kill him. How even Seung-moo, once he recovered, realized that Chul could have definitely killed him but instead gave him a chance to survive his anger. (Seung-moo decided to let Chul save himself that first time on the bridge.) How Seung-moo tried to pay that back, to erase “The End,” but that his connection to W was over.
How all those mirrored stories led into a discussion of storytelling itself. How Yeon-joo wondered if fictional worlds got to move on after the ending, or if they were frozen in that moment of happily ever.
I’ve been on the fence about whether or not I was going to believe the theory that Yeon-joo was the original artist for Chul, especially after declaration that Chul was basically Seung-moo’s power fantasy. That brief scene we saw could have been at any point early on in W’s run, so Yeon-joo could have been drawing dad’s character. But what finally converted me was that our first glimpse of the police boat speeding toward the bridge was when Yeon-joo came up with the idea–not when Soo-bong drew it.
Seung-moo has lost his connection to W. Yeon-joo has realized hers. That smile on her face when she realized she was back in prison? That was glorious.
And I’ll admit to cracking up when Chul woke up in his bed in the classic it-was-all-just-a-dream sudden wakefulness. Apparently the best way to continue the comic was to retcon everything after Chul stepped into the real world, which means Yeon-joo is still in prison and the most likely suspect for Chul’s stabbing, according to the police. And it means that the little sidestep we had into the prosecutor’s storyline at the start of episode five is likely our way to draw him into the current plot.
Oh, this is going to be fun.
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Sancheezy
August 6, 2016 at 6:57 AM
waah, what a wonderful essay,
I am glad that I back here after saw the increasing comment and found yours
it such a delightful feeling when you can see the beauty of recollection and link it to the present time,
what KC did is a satire to his family's case
thank you for the post
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cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 3:36 PM
Interesting--particularly in regards to the murderous force. What victory conditions indeed--make it see the error of it's ways? Heh.
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celine
August 6, 2016 at 10:55 PM
Thanks for sharing this!
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140 deanna
August 5, 2016 at 9:18 PM
*THIS* (definition from Urban Diction)
THIS is what I love about W. This whole idea of KC breaking the 4th wall is such a new concept for me. I haven't seen a drama that addressed this before. So original and fresh ❤
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mary
August 6, 2016 at 1:50 AM
OMG Psycho Mantis is such a tricky bastard. I still remember fighting him and freaking out at his "powers". Hideo Kojima got me good.
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cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 3:38 PM
I love it even more because of the scenes when KC looks directly at the camera. That's when it feels a bit like he's breaking the fourth wall twice--he knows he's from a webtoon, and then he speaks to the camera (which feels like he's talking to me as a viewer.)
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141 Fera
August 5, 2016 at 9:38 PM
Okay, after reading some comments, a particular one (I forgot which) triggered me to think this: about part of theories for possible happy end for KC and YJ...
In this ep, it showed the director of the W movie-producing is in trouble because of the tragic end in W webtoon.
What if... WHAT IF.... BIG 'IF', in the end KC will be able to be with YJ in the real world and he is making money from starring as himself in the movie W the director talked about?
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Fera
August 5, 2016 at 11:44 PM
Another theory for the villain, maybe it was someone from KC's old days when he was still the Olympic athlete? Like.. one of the competitors he defeated and not satisfied with the result of the game that let KC won the gold medal?
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lucifer
August 6, 2016 at 1:15 AM
What if in the end KC will be able to be with YJ in the real world and he is making money from starring as himself in the movie W the director talked about?
Ooh... that's an AWESOME idea. Now, we just need KC and YJ to be okay and everything to settle and for them to be together and get married. For for no one to get themselves killed, especially KC and YJ, Su Bong, and Bodyguard Hyung.
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mary
August 6, 2016 at 1:48 AM
Yey, I like this!
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cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 3:40 PM
I like this too! Although (skipping past the whole 'how does he get to stay in the real world' problem) when he stays, he's gonna need a new name, poor guy.
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beanie
August 6, 2016 at 8:45 PM
That would be an adorable ending. Although part of me doesn't want to put him through re-living all that tragedy again after seeing him read his life's story in the manwha.
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142 Bongsookie
August 5, 2016 at 10:30 PM
Thanks GF!! I'm so behind on reading comments but to everyone here, I here's some comic relief with some comic strips by ahpheng8 below:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BIv7hH1j82r/
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Bongsookie
August 5, 2016 at 10:31 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BIwUj86jNU0/
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Sancheezy
August 6, 2016 at 7:00 AM
came here to find your fun insta post just like the last episode
thanks ^^
this is hilarious,
if any mods saw this, can you post this on beanie comment of the week as a compilation,
for fun and happiness . . .
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cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 3:42 PM
Yes! I second that. These comic strips are so funny. Thanks!
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Bongsookie
August 6, 2016 at 9:22 PM
You're welcome guys :) I was originally worried no one really wants to see these reposted here because they're already on Soompi and Instagram (if you follow @ahpheng8)...but glad to be able to post these here for enjoyment.
Here's another one! Gotta love Kang Chul ;)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BIwajsKDrQH/
Bongsookie
August 6, 2016 at 9:24 PM
I mean, there really is something swoony about that lip-biting KC does. I don't think I've ever seen LJS doing that lip-bitey thing in his previous roles before lol
Sancheezy
August 7, 2016 at 12:20 AM
@bongsookie
don't have many to visit soompi and I don't used instagram personally
only check dramabeans and your post is really helpful for me
ʕ•̀ω•́ʔ✧
143 lucifer
August 6, 2016 at 1:12 AM
Maybe somewhere someone is watching us and saying...
"It's just a drama. Why do you people have to get your knickers in a twist for A DRAMA?"
I'm one of those people.
What do I do when they postpone the drama for a whole two episodes???
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144 Emi
August 6, 2016 at 2:36 AM
Ahhhh this the most interesting drama i have seen so far!!!! and i really love coming back to your page to read the recap and the views at the end! please keep up the good work! fighting! fighting to the W crew!! ^.^
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145 Melbeanie
August 6, 2016 at 4:35 AM
Whoa, almost 600 comments already! I was just out of the loop for like seconds because of work, work and work! Wouldn't it be nice to just watch kdramas all day and just think about what the heck just happened during that last scene, oh and that scene in the toilet that became the Han River oh and when the manhwa continues in the real world? Well, on second thought, with this show, I might be better off working to buy time for the next episode and save my sanity. This show is really crazy. Good crazy but still crazy. "I can never get enough of Su-bong’s shock-face, probably because it mirrors mine as I watch every episode of this show." Hahahahahaha! Love it! Thanks for another great recap, GF!
So wait, how in the world that the manhwa continued in the real world? I was like OMG! How??? Is it because it follows where Kang Chul is? I mean he's the protagonist, isn't it. So it follows everywhere he goes, is that it? I mean the story has not ended then. Also, did the bullet and gun disappear as soon as Kang Chul was out of the real world? That letter, by the way, when she received it, she was looking at the manhwa with the same letter right? So, since she's the heroine, it will be shown in the manhwa that she was looking at it while receiving the real letter. Ergo, in the manhwa, two letters are shown. The manhwa version and the real version, isn't it? Madness, madness!
And then why was Yeon-joo suddenly in the river and then out of it? And oh yes, that scene was too cool for words! Like OMG what's happening, then OMG she's underwater, then OMG it's Kang Chul, then OMG she couldn't reach for him! Then when she was back in the toilet, OMG what the hell just happened? Whatever triggered that? This is making my head spin, seriously.
Then the last part, how, how, how? Did Su-bong just erased everything? Since "to be continued" has been erased, can he erase everything until the scene in jail. But, Kang Chul was rescued as Su-bong drew the boat. If erasing solves the problem, he wouldn't need to draw a boat with the divers, would he? So yes, Yeon-joo probably is subconsciously directing what is to happen. The scenes probably didn't happen soon after the shooting because she was telling herself it's just a manhwa...like what she told the publisher, but why was she suddenly in the river???
So what the hell is the killer doing in the real world? Is he still following Kang Chul to finish him off? Why? He's just a plot device! Why is he still existing? Is it because of Dad's will for Kang Chul to die? But he has a soft spot for him, as we learned in this episode. Oh dear oh dear. The killer was obviously by the river to look for Kang Chul's body. How can he cross the other world? Oh and the killer can fly too like a dementor of sorts. That is so not good.
I think Kang Chul remembers everything like a dream but he would think that it wasn't a dream since he has that wound on his hand. Oh please please next episode,...
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146 Myn
August 6, 2016 at 7:09 AM
What I'm really confused about is how come KC has a wound/scrape on his hands as a result from his altercation with Mr. Oh when he was in the world of Yoon Joo but when Yoon Joo and Mr. Oh was in the webtoon world, they were immortal, nothing can kill or wound them. Is it a new rule that only Mr.Oh and Yoon Joo are the only ones immortal when they crossover to webtoon world? or is KC not from the webtoon world originally?
Second thing I'm also curious is if the bullet and the gun disappeared after KC jumped off on the bridge, does that mean the letter than Yoon Joo also disappeared? But I noticed Yoon Joo received the letter in the morning and KC jumped midnight, so how come the letter did not disappear???? So confusing thinking about it. I hope the writer has a reason for all this, anyways, it is still a WOW drama
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Haruki Murakami
August 6, 2016 at 10:17 AM
The letter didn't disappear because they were written from REAL PAPER and REAL PEN taken from the real world convenience store.
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147 Noelle
August 6, 2016 at 10:18 AM
Acrobat and the flee anyone?
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148 Kfan
August 6, 2016 at 1:29 PM
going to miss for a week.............cry cry how can they do that already watched episode 1-6 10 times.I am mad now what will i do now . Apart from that are other shows also suffering from olympics broadcast???
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149 cozybooks
August 6, 2016 at 3:45 PM
*gasp* I just realized something. In a different W thread (I don't know where, sorry or I'd post it there) it was brought up that KC might originally be from the real world (possibly allowing him to stay and our OTP to be happy) however, YJ and Dad are both invincible in the webtoon world--and Chul evidently is not (thank you, Dad, for that demonstration). So unfortunately he can't be from the real world originally. But I still want them to be happy!
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150 Jat
August 6, 2016 at 7:19 PM
I like when she smiles as she realised she is in prison.It's like Hell yeah, I'm back in prison and that is so much a better option now
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