Uncontrollably Fond: Episode 17
by LollyPip
Joon-young sets his plan into motion, bringing all the pieces together for one final confrontation. But every action has an equal and opposite reaction, and as Joon-young pushes, his adversary is ready and willing to push back just as hard. The question is, will Joon-young be able to outwit his opponents and set everything right before his time runs out?
EPISODE 17 RECAP
Joon-young forgets about sending Pororo to a new home, as well as what the statue of limitations means. He narrates that his doctor warned that this might happen as his cancer progressed, but he’d ignored his doctor’s warning, arrogantly thinking that God wouldn’t be so cruel.
Still confused, Joon-young opens the gate to see Jung-eun on his doorstep. She waves her now-ringless hand at him, then steps into his arms. Over her shoulder, Joon-young sees Eul staring at them, and he thinks that God has never forgotten to be cruel to him and Eul.
Jung-eun steps back when she realizes that Joon-young isn’t hugging her back, and she comments on his blank gaze, as if he doesn’t know her. After a moment, the memories rush back to him — she’s the hit-and-run driver who killed Eul’s father, and he’s been working on convincing her to give up Ji-tae and date him.
He slips back into character and addresses Jung-eun, saying that she came sooner than he expected. She asks him to make her some ramyun, and the two link arms and go inside. Joon-young looks at Eul only for a second, and in voiceover, says that he decided to be even more cruel than God.
In the kitchen, Jung-eun suggests that they kiss again, this time for real. Joon-young just grins at her, and outside, Eul turns to go. Joon-young narrates that he just hopes that however much misery he’s caused Eul, that he experiences it ten thousand times more.
Assemblyman Choi asks Ji-tae if he knows who Jung-eun is dating, and he knows his son is lying when Ji-tae says that he doesn’t know. Jung-eun’s father arrives for dinner, and he eats heartily while everyone else just sits in awkward silence. He even toasts to the broken engagement, saying that everybody knows.
Assemblyman Choi apologizes, and Assemblyman Yoon suddenly mentions that he’s thinking of giving someone else the secretary-general position. All of a sudden, he feels that Assemblyman Choi isn’t experienced enough. Yeah, right.
When Ji-tae’s mother gently protests, Yoon says that he won’t be giving next year’s government projects to her company. He asks Ji-tae whom he chose over Jung-eun, and his mother can’t stay quiet. She asks about Jung-eun’s new love interest, but this is news to Assemblyman Yoon. She hands over her phone and shows Assemblyman Yoon pictures of Jung-eun with Joon-young.
Joon-young’s mother closes up her restaurant for the night, and Ajusshi stays back to give her a hat. He puts it on her, and she asks again if he likes her, and this time he says yes. Then he immediately takes it back, ha, and asks if she thinks he’s nuts.
He turns and sees Eul crouched against the wall, head in her arms, and Mom asks Eul why she’s here. Eul says that she just walked, and ended up here. She tells them to ignore her, but Ajusshi says that if she wants Joon-young back, she should go talk to him.
Eul moans that she knows, but she’s not in her right mind at the moment. Ajusshi nags some more so Mom sends him away, and asks Eul if she’s crying. Eul says she’s not, that she’s too shocked to cry. She finally looks up at Mom, who invites her to her house for some dinner.
After their dinner, Jung-eun asks Joon-young why Eul was in front of his house tonight. He claims not to know, and changes the subject when Jung-eun derides Eul for not taking a hint. The doorbell rings, and Joon-young finds Assemblyman Yoon’s aide at his door looking for him.
He dresses in a suit to meet Jung-eun’s father, but Jung-eun warns him that her father is a frightening man and pleads with him not to go. She begs him to let her handle this, saying that she loves him, and Joon-young hugs her with a (triumphant?) smile and lets her go. He says that if she’s gone too long, he’ll go himself.
Eul eats with her usual gusto at Joon-young’s mom’s place, and Mom complains that she could have made more than ramyun. Eul explains that she heard that Joon-young was making ramyun for the woman he’s dating, and she was suddenly craving it. Mom asks who he’s dating, and Eul opens a bottle of soju and says that she’s rich, sexy, and from a good family.
Mom snatches the soju back, yelling that she brought it for herself, and Eul realizes that she was gulping it without it even registering. She whines that she’s not supposed to be drinking, worried that she’ll act out again. Mom just invites her to share a drink and they’ll see just how bad it can get.
As Joon-young waits, he breathes on his window again, revealing the little cartoon he drew of Eul on the glass. He goes to his room and pulls out a small recorder, and films himself saying that he’s not sure when his memory will start to go again. He starts talking about his mother and her life, and OOF, this makes my stomach hurt, especially when he haltingly says that he never had a father.
Joon-young reconsiders, and records that his father is Choi Hyun-joon, but that he doesn’t know Joon-young exists. He says that Assemblyman Choi fabricated the details of Eul’s father’s hit-and-run accident, then he’s interrupted by a call from his mother.
He affects his usual cheerful tone when he answers, saying that he’ll rush right over if she misses him. At her home, Mom tucks a sleeping Eul into bed in Joon-young’s old room, then answers the door when Joon-young arrives.
He thinks he’s here to fix a broken chair leg, and he’s surprised when Mom tells him that Eul is in his room. She asks why he’s dating someone else when he’s crazy over Eul.
He covers her mouth when she raises her voice and accuses him of only dating that other girl because she’s rich. Joon-young starts to leave, but stops when Mom says that Eul hasn’t slept in days, so she got her drunk on purpose. She pretends that there’s an emergency at the restaurant, and leaves Joon-young alone with Eul despite his protests.
Joon-young can’t resist peeking in on Eul, and he sits on the floor to watch her sleep. When she starts to roll off the bed, he quickly slides under her, catching her on his chest. Eul doesn’t wake, but just snuggles into him, and he’s stuck for fear of waking her.
His mother texts that she’s going to stay at the sauna with friends tonight, and Joon-young wonders what to do about Eul. He pulls his pillow under his head, and gently pushes Eul’s hair off her face. His hand hovers over her face as if he’s dying to touch her, but he settles for cradling her in his arms and falls asleep.
In the morning, Eul wakes on the floor, alone. She looks around Joon-young’s room, smiling at the encouraging quotes he’d taped to the walls and written in his old textbooks. In one book she finds folded papers, and opens them to see her old posted flyers asking for witnesses to her father’s accident — and also the newer ones Joon-young had posted after she’d left, with his own phone number as the contact.
Joon-young’s mom comes in to ask where Joon-young is, and Eul is surprised to learn that he was here last night. Mom seems disappointed that Eul never saw him, but she notices the old signs, and tells Eul that Joon-young did everything he could.
She says that Joon-young was a law student then, but he gave it all up. She says that he’s a man of conscience, unlike his parents, and asks Eul not to resent him or she’s a bad person, too.
Joon-young wakes to find Assemblyman Choi at his door, and they go to the dock out back to talk. Choi asks what Joon-young is aiming at, threatening him with the USB (the one that had evidence of Choi with Madam Song), and also stealing Jung-eun from Ji-tae.
Joon-young says that he merely wants a just society. Assemblyman Choi says that it wouldn’t be hard to destroy Joon-young, adding that Joon-young started the threats first. Joon-young questions whether asking for a just society and a welfare state is a threat, when those are words that politicians like Choi spew all the time.
Choi asks if Joon-young means to continue playing this absurd game, and Joon-young counters that Choi started it. He asks if he’s forgotten what he did when he was a prosecutor just to gain fame and prestige. Choi says that if Joon-young’s goal is to ruin his life, he ought to mess with Choi alone, and leave out his wife and children
Joon-young isn’t the least bit intimidated, and he refuses. He says that Assemblyman Choi’s family needs to be equally harmed; they need to learn that it’s a sin to have Choi as a husband and father.
Furious, Assemblyman Choi grabs Joon-young by the collar, and warns him one last time — destroying Joon-young would be a piece of cake. He growls for Joon-young to stop this, and not to touch anything that belongs to him.
Joon-young just smiles and gives Assemblyman Choi a piece of advice: “Don’t just warn me. Destroy me.” He says that he plans to spend the rest of his life standing in the way of Choi’s success. He invites Choi to try to knock him down, or he’ll just grow worse.
Jung-eun’s father isn’t pleased with his daughter’s choice of men, and he snatches her phone and slaps her when she tries to text Joon-young. He asks if she plans to live recklessly now, but she retorts that she’s going to stop living recklessly. Her father calls her childish to choose a lowly celebrity, and Jung-eun yells that she loves him.
Her father books the next flight to the States, intent on sending Jung-eun away until she comes to her senses. He forbids her to return until he allows it, saying that she’s not in her right mind, just like ten years ago.
Ji-tae arrives to speak with Jung-eun, and tries to warn her away from Joon-young. But she wants him over anybody else and isn’t going to be swayed away from her love. At that, Ji-tae tells her that Joon-young approached Jung-eun with an agenda—he’s doing it to get back at Assemblyman Choi.
Haru visits Na-ri at work, and Na-ri tells her that the daughter of a restaurant owner has been flirting with Jik, and she approves, since she wants Jik to marry someone rich. Jealous and indignant, Haru reveals that she’s even richer, though Na-ri doesn’t believe that she’s the daughter of KJ Group.
Haru shows her a family photo to prove it, and Na-ri is shocked, but not for the reason that Haru thinks — she tells Haru to go home, delete Jik’s number, and never contact him again.
Haru refuses, and Jik arrives to find Na-ri trying to physically peel Haru off the display case. Haru pouts that Na-ri is telling her to break up with him, and Jik confusedly asks why.
Jik takes Haru outside, where she sobs that things at home are bad enough without all this piled on. Jik promises that he won’t break up with her no matter what anyone says, and hugs Haru while she wails that she’s better than that restaurant girl. As she cries, Jik wonders why Na-ri told them to break up.
With Ji-tae’s words ringing in her head, Jung-eun goes to meet with Joon-young by the river — and when she sees him standing there, she grows angry and nearly runs him over with her car. At the last second, she screeches the car to a halt just feet away from him, while he doesn’t even flinch.
She calms and they sit to talk, and Jung-eun says that she heard something from Ji-tae, but if Joon-young says it’s not true then she’ll believe him.
Joon-young asks if Ji-tae told her that he approached her to get revenge on a father that abandoned him. Jung-eun demands that he say it’s not true, but instead, Joon-young tells her to run before he comes up with another scheme to fool her.
Eul goes to Joon-young’s home again, but her work sunbae calls her before she works up the courage to ring the bell. She’s in trouble for showing up at Joon-young’s home while they were shooting his documentary. Her sunbae gets a call from Joon-young requesting that he send Eul for tonight’s shooting, and he grumbles at Joon-young’s unpredictability.
That evening, Joon-young sits on his pier at a table covered in flowers and a cake. Eul asks what they’re filming, and Joon-young says that it’s the first item on his bucket list — to propose on camera to the woman he loves. He complains that Eul is frowning, and she turns up the corners of her mouth with her fingers to prove that she’s not.
She can’t help but ask who he’s planning to propose to, and his answer floors her: “Noh Eul.” What? But he’s not answering her, he’s just telling her again to stop frowning. The real answer is that he’s proposing to Jung-eun.
Eul excuses herself to get a some water, and she’s so shaken that she drops the glass and shatters it. She mutters to herself that Joon-young is cruel, asking her to film his proposal to another woman.
We see that earlier in the day, after his talk with Jung-eun, Joon-young had called Ji-tae’s mother. He’d told her that no matter what happens, he’d have Jung-eun: “Everything you people want to have, I will now steal away, one by one.”
Jung-eun had been watching from her car, and had taken a call from Ji-tae’s mother asking if she had a nice talk with Joon-young. She’d told Jung-eun to come back and marry Ji-tae, and when Jung-eun tried to hang up on her, she’d said that she had CCTV footage of her hit-and-run from ten years ago.
Jung-eun accused her of lying, but Ji-tae’s mother invited her to come see for herself. Jung-eun desperately reminded her that she wouldn’t be the only one affected if it goes public, but Ji-tae’s mother had been willing to take that risk. Between a presidential candidate with a murderer daughter and a mere prosecutor who gave in to power, “I wonder who’ll shed more blood?” Shiver.
Jung-eun had gone back out to Joon-young, who’d asked if she decided not to run. She’d asked how far Joon-young would have gone if he hadn’t been caught, and he said he’d have married her. He admitted that he wants to take the one thing his father wants, and when Jung-eun was surprised he’d marry someone he doesn’t love for revenge, Joon-young had said that feelings change.
He’d told Jung-eun to leave, but she’d stopped him. She’d commented on his ability to know what a woman is feeling, and suggested they follow this through together.
Now she shows up at his place and sits at the table, and she hesitates when she sees that Eul is here to film it. But she gathers her wits and even greets Eul, and asks her to make them look good.
Ji-tae drinks at his and Eul’s old haunt, and the restaurant unni fusses at him for disappearing for so long, calling him sexy and handsome in his fancy new appearance. Ji-tae just says that he had always thought he was a rational, reasonable person.
His assistant finds him, and shows him the latest news on Joon-young. We don’t see what Ji-tae sees on the phone screen, but whatever it is makes him go pale.
Over at his mother’s restaurant, Man-ok and Gook-young also gape at the news. Ajusshi says that Joon-young’s mother should never see this, but it’s too late — she’s just walked in and overheard them talking, and wants to know what this is about.
Eul continues filming as Joon-young slips a diamond ring onto Jung-eun’s finger. Eul asks the two what made them decide to do this on camera, and Joon-young says again that it’s on his bucket list. Eul wants Jung-eun’s answer, and she responds that she wants to publicly show people that she’s chosen Joon-young, so that they’ll stop threatening her. Well, how romantic.
Eul asks if they really love each other, zooming in on Joon-young’s face for his answer. He says that he does, but Eul pushes, wanting to know when he starting loving Jung-eun. He looks cornered for a moment, and he says that he doesn’t remember exactly.
Voice rising, Eul asks why he can’t remember. Joon-young asks if she recalls every single moment she fell in love, and Eul confidently says that she does. It was March 15, 2005, at the playground in her neighborhood. Some kids had made fun of her brother for having no mother, and the boy in question had comforted Jik.
Of course that had been Joon-young, and he remembers it vividly. He’d told little Jik that he used to get teased for having no father, but he never cried because that’s what the bullies wanted. Eul had witnessed the whole exchange, and she’d fallen for Joon-young that very moment.
Joon-young looks shaken now, but Eul doesn’t let him off the hook, and she reminds him that he loved another woman before Jung-eun. Eul asks if he really even loved her, and Joon-young says that he doesn’t remember, gripping Jung-eun’s hand tightly to stop her from chiming in.
He regains his composure a bit, saying that he’s the type of person who starts a new relationship cleanly, erasing old memories. Now Eul is upset and she calls a break, and Joon-young watches as she walks away. Jung-eun says that he’s a scary man.
He stands and starts the camera, but Jung-eun doesn’t notice. She asks if they could start again once this is all over. Joon-young asks her what her dream was for her life, explaining that his dream was to become a prosecutor, then find his father and show him that he grew up well without him.
Jung-eun asks if he doesn’t resent his father, since he wants to get revenge on him. Joon-young just says that his father doesn’t even know he exists, which is why he studied so hard. But then one day he discovered his father’s true colors — that he’s cruel, and a fraud who’d do anything to get what he wants.
Joon-young tells her that his father covered up a hit-and-run case for a powerful man. As he lays out the details, Jung-eun realizes that he’s talking about her, and drops her wine glass in shock.
She excuses herself, and Joon-young watches her go with a calculating look in his eyes. Eul comes back and sees that the camera is on, and Joon-young hands her something and tells her not to take her eyes off the monitor.
Ji-tae confronts his mother, accusing her of starting the rumor that Joon-young is a drug user. Oh no. Joon-young’s mother makes Man-ok read her the article, which states that a “Mr. A” uses drugs in clubs and has drug parties with girls.
Though the articles don’t name him, everyone assumes that the rumor is about Joon-young. Assemblyman Choi looks deeply conflicted, but it turns out that he’s the source of the untrue rumors.
Jung-eun emerges from the restroom, having composed herself. She tells Joon-young that prosecutors are people too, who can be cowardly and make mistakes. Joon-young counters that the prosecutors he knows still try to be good fathers and stick to their principles.
Jung-eun asks if this is why he wanted revenge on his father, but he just tells her, “The man who died in the hit-and-run accident was my girlfriend’s father.” He confesses to interfering when Eul tried to expose the truth, by trying to protect his father.
Just as Joon-young instructed, Eul is witnessing this entire exchange through the camera that Joon-young re-positioned, and she watches with tears in her eyes as he says, “I wanted to protect him, so I killed my girlfriend.”
He looks directly into the camera, and says again, “I killed her.”
COMMENTS
I’m not even going to comment on that last bit, because I am so confused right now. I’ll just wait until the next episode and hope it gets explained. Is Joon-young sending Eul a message? Is he being facetious? What does it mean??
I do appreciate that Eul isn’t letting him get away with any of this, and that she confronted Joon-young right there on camera and in front of Jung-eun. She know that this whole thing with Jung-eun is fake, though she doesn’t know exactly what he’s up to, but I’m so proud of her for calling him out on it. If Joon-young’s going to act like an ass then dammit, Eul is going to make sure he knows that she sees every bit of his B.S. I’m also glad that she told him exactly when she fell in love with him, because I think he needed to hear that in that moment. Yes, he’s doing this all for her, but he’s doing it in an extremely hurtful way, and he shouldn’t get away with it without Eul serving a little of it back to him.
Joon-young isn’t an easy character to like (though to be fair, I don’t think he’s supposed to be), in great part because he’s so closed-off that it’s hard to get a bead on what he’s thinking and feeling at any given moment. I don’t think that’s at all due to Woo-bin’s acting, who is simply knocking it out of the park. Joon-young is just so accustomed to keeping his true thoughts and feelings to himself and showing a carefully constructed persona to the world, that he has trouble ever letting his guard down even when he badly wants to. But one thing I do love about his character is that while he has spent his whole life hating himself for not being the upstanding man he always wanted to be, he’s never even realized that he is exactly that man already.
Joon-young quit law school because he didn’t believe he was honorable enough to be a prosecutor, but that act is the very thing that makes him honorable. A less honorable man would have continued to pursue his chosen career, never admitting that he was compromising his own principles — a man like Assemblyman Choi. It’s so sad that Joon-young put his father up on a pedestal that he didn’t earn, and that by holding that unreasonable esteem of Choi, Joon-young actually sabotaged his own future when he couldn’t live up to it himself. I just wish that once in his life, someone had been there to tell Joon-young that it’s okay to fail — that it doesn’t matter if you fail, but that it’s what you do after that, that makes you an honorable man.
But though I have compassion for him, I’m angry with him for his treatment of Eul, because it’s just not necessary to deliberately hurt her the way he seems bent on doing. I accept that he’s decided to dedicate the remainder of his life to making her father’s killer pay for her crime, and I even understand now that he’s wooing Jung-eun because taking her is part of his revenge on Assemblyman Choi and his family. But I really don’t get why he continues to drag Eul over to watch him do it — what purpose is that supposed to serve? Why does he need Eul to despise him, when he could just let her go in peace? Even if it’s a form of self-hatred on Joon-young’s part, it’s beyond horrible to hurt Eul that way.
I’m still upset with Joon-young’s mother for treating him so terribly for years, but she’s beginning to earn my respect a little bit for at least trying to be a better mother now. She’s attempting to repair their relationship a little at a time, which I think is a change partly inspired by Eul. Mom sees that Eul loves Joon-young in spite of his faults, and through Eul’s eyes she sees her wayward son as a man who’s doing his best to live a good life. I love how she champions Eul now, even playing wingman a bit when she sees the opportunity to get Joon-young and Eul in the same room. She’s not even above lying to Joon-young and getting Eul drunk in order to do it, which may not be morally upstanding but from someone as uptight as Mom, is pretty amusing. But the best moment was when she told Eul that Joon-young is a man of conscience — she’s finally accepting that he is still a worthy and moral man, even if she doesn’t agree with his life choices. Now if she would just say that to Joon-young himself, I could truly forgive her.
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1 Lessa
August 31, 2016 at 10:23 PM
Thanks for the recap LollyPip! <3 I enjoyed the emotional turmoil this episode gave me coz that's what dramas are for anyway. AHAHA. But, of course I will still freak out. Im home alone so I get to scream-react at all my kdramas today. I ate 2 ramyuns and just lounged around all day because I just finished my fellowship yesterday! :D
ANyWAAYYY...
Congressman Choi and Madam Lee deserve each other. He already knew that SJY was his son and yet he is hell bent on destroying him coz he's no longer getting that secretary general position? JUST. WOW. Like, I thought it was really emotional how shocked he was to see JY's Mom. Even with a hint of jealousy towards Ajusshi Oppa. But noooo, yah, my career's fucked so Im going to destroy my other kid. If JY was even more evil, he'd probably confirm the scandal and say it's because that's how my true father did it anyway & he's my supplier, etc etc.
Madam Lee doesnt even have to worry about Choi leaving her for Young Ok. He's just as evil as she is, it's a miracle that they produced someone like Ha Ru, weird spoiled fan girl that she is, who adores Jik so blindly despite him being poor. So basically this episode just threw out any hope I have left for Congressman Choi's redemption. UGH
"But one thing I do love about his character is that while he has spent his whole life hating himself for not being the upstanding man he always wanted to be, he’s never even realized that he is exactly that man already." <---THIS! YES!
Onwards to next episode!
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Sweetsammy
August 31, 2016 at 11:51 PM
Congrats on completing your fellowship!!
I can't help but feel sorry for joon young. Someone please cure his cancer!! Please dramagods!!
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meanie
September 1, 2016 at 12:18 AM
"it's a miracle that they produced someone like Ha Ru" lmao, I so agree! At the beginning of the drama, I thought she was trash for being a crazy fan, but she's clearly the best person out of her family now, even if she's a brat.
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nchoe
September 1, 2016 at 2:46 AM
Yes... this little brat looks like an angel compares to the rest of her family
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2 eerinmide
August 31, 2016 at 10:50 PM
KIM WOO BINNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!
I came for you
I stayed for you
Your face alone was worth it
I was not even expecting out of this world acting
But thanks for this spectacular performance
Also Suzy... we may not have gotten along initially, but we cool now. You deserve a Subway sandwich, on me!
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Jamie Prado
September 1, 2016 at 9:11 AM
This is so how feel. I came cause woo bin is cute bit my god he has done an amazing job.
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3 missjb
August 31, 2016 at 11:00 PM
OMG, I love 2 pre produced drama this year, uncontrollably fond and CITT (though it has flaws). Please kept making pre produced drama. Might be due to my personal taste when it comes to drama has change. I don't know why I love drama everyone seems to hate.... This show is just kept getting better for me and kept me shed tears in every episode. The pace is abit slow, but is fine
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amy_kyne
August 31, 2016 at 11:55 PM
I am loving pre-produced dramas as well, my favs are Uncontrollably Fond and Scarlet Heart. I have never really been a fan of Kim Woo Bin or Lee Jun Gi but after these two dramas, I am officially head over heels for the both of them. Sadly, both dramas are not getting the ratings I think it deserves but I love them all the same. UF & SH, fighting!
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rainhana
September 1, 2016 at 12:05 AM
Idk why but your comment just motivated me to go check SH out. after UF ends and maybe SH itself ends tho. I've been tortured enough with waiting weeks for every episode of UF. no need to add to it ?
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amy_kyne
September 1, 2016 at 12:19 AM
I'm not sure you'll like it not but please do watch Scarlet Heart :) Take note that it's also quite depressing like UF so just be warned hihi :p On a side note, you should check out Me Before You, I bought the book after crying my heart out watching the movie...sharing is caring so hope you'll watch it @rainhana
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rainhana
September 1, 2016 at 12:52 AM
Oh yeah, Me Before You is on my watchlist, just haven't made time to check it out yet. Heard lots about it and i already know i'd love it ?
If we both like UF and Me Befor You, then i'm definitely checking SH. I'm ok if it's depressing as long as i can feel for the characters. thanks for sharing ?
Y
September 1, 2016 at 3:31 AM
Hey what ciit stands for......... I haven't seen it yet so help me
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alasecond
September 1, 2016 at 4:12 AM
Cheese in the trap
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4 pioonerium
August 31, 2016 at 11:24 PM
This drama is so good. With so many important questions being asked, with so many interesting dilemmas and deep meaning. But sadly, it was pushed aside and received flak, because it doesn't follow cute, simple, funny formula.
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Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 12:25 AM
Yeah, I always like the reveal sequence in this drama.
I strangely get why Joon Young is being so cruel towards Eul this episode. When he dies he does not want her to feel bad for him and hurt more, he wants her to think of him as a jerk, so that she can move on easily.
But to be quite honest if any of us were Eul and we were dating SJY that would not compensate losing such a good, compassionate, honest in the present day and someone so contrite that you share in his pain even if he is largely to be blamed for what happened. Tears they flow for you SJY...
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sancheezy
September 1, 2016 at 6:15 AM
I think people clearly said they didn't obsess because too much torture and slow, very slow plot progression that make them don't think it need a weekly watch,
it isn't because it's not funny, cute or simple,
this drama actually does the 3 , funny, cute and simple, it just too long without real purpose other than sad scene, too much is not everyone taste,
I knew you want to give good impression about this drama but people who pushed it aside is not just a bandwagoners because the drama get so much flak, but because it isn't their taste and unfortunately, lot of people thought the same.
for me this drama is sad but I like to see if they'll turn out well or not but not a drama I'll reccomend greatly to other people
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5 Julzevias
August 31, 2016 at 11:27 PM
I think Joon-Young's being deliberately hurtful to Eul to chase her away, since she keeps sticking to him like gum(go girl!). After the jail incident, he got convinced that Eul would live a better life without him, so he pushed her away. Then he decided to take revenge, and I assume he wanted to do it himself because he partially caused this entire mess in the first place(plus playing with those money holders is playing with fire), so he continued to try and push her away. He knows Eul is already trying to convince him to go to the doctor when he doesn't want to, and Eul will continue to keep nagging. Therefore, to get his way and finish this revenge, he's being a jerk on purpose.
That's what I took it as, comment if you disagree. As for the last part, it recalled something Joon-Young had said before: "Eul has continued to live in darkness". Eul used to be upright and a justice-seeker too, but after that hospital incident and the failure with the court case against Evil Madam she was almost completely robbed of spirit.
So perhaps when he says "I killed her", he thinks he killed the bright, cheerful Eul from before(on top of the "I almost literally killed her" meaning). He may not be the sole cause, but he certainly contributed, that's for sure.
Can't wait for Eul's reaction to this.
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lookingvacant
August 31, 2016 at 11:41 PM
'I think Joon-Young’s being deliberately hurtful to Eul to chase her away, since she keeps sticking to him like gum"
yes, yes, and it might seem unnecessary to us viewers, hurting her like that, but to JY, to him, it is the only way he can carry out his plans, he has no plans to getting back together with NE, he threw that out of the window when he decided he will fix his mess and bring NE back the justice he took from her. His goal is really just to create an opportunity for NE at a clean slate and new life. And to him, if he lets himself be with NE, he will not be able to carry out his plan, and her sticking to him like glue is not really helping him, thus he hurts her.
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rainhana
August 31, 2016 at 11:55 PM
Exactly, he's aiming for a bigger goal.
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rainhana
September 1, 2016 at 12:13 AM
At first i took the line " I killed her " like " I almost literally killed her ", but your theory is even deeper. If it's true then JY is even feeling guilty for killing her from the inside too. which we never even thought about untill now. wow. the amount of guilt he's feeling.
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mary
September 1, 2016 at 5:08 AM
I like your idea re: he killed the bright part of Eul.
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6 rainhana
August 31, 2016 at 11:35 PM
The last bit was exactly the moment of truth, JY got NE there for that exact purpose, not for making her watch him propose to JE or to hurt Eul ect.
as we can see he had also prepared the documents of the case before in that bag. it was all a set up for that last moment, I don't know if i'm wrong but the way i saw it plus the preview, NE now knows about everything, including JY's part in this. and he wanted to record the whole story on the camera, although i'm still waiting for that moment when JE confesses to her sin in front of the camera, or JY gets her cought up in a way that the video can serve as an evidence.
If JY had not stolen that USB, that night could've been a positive turning point in Eul's life. JY sees it that way, He thought she had moved on but seeing she didn't, plus since JT kept reminding him and we can see that he keeps remembering his words, he thinks he doesn't deserve her, so it's not just about getting her revenge. It's also about his guilt. and this alone explains his actions for me. even tho i think he could've found better ways to do what he's doing.
At least In spite of everything, he's actually trying to get stuff done. they better be quick tho, the bigger evil aka Choi just stepped in!
I think JY might be hating himself for his mistake more than NE's gonna hate him for it. and i soo agree that he's already the honorable man he thinks he isn't. but since he doesn't seem to love himself, it's not a surprise that he doesn't give himself much credit.
I'm so sad for Haru and Jik, the two innocent lovebirds getting hurt cuz of adult ppl's past actions.
and that night scene with JY and NE was just awww! I'm loving how JY is being a baby son around his mother. and even her mom i'm loving, getting Eul drunk to make her sleep, getting JY there to be with her etc. I knew she liked NE from the moment JY introduced her to his mom ?
I'm easy to forgive ppl. maybe that's why i seem to enjoy the show more than lots of others, I haven't agreed to everything the writer has planned for the show, it gets too unnecessarily complicated at times but i'm still loving it even more every episode, especially now that all the truth is coming to surface.
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pioonerium
September 1, 2016 at 12:09 AM
It wasn't documents, it was laptop. Eul saw everything from it.
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rainhana
September 1, 2016 at 12:18 AM
oh haha, thanks for the clarification. i watched on a small screen, plus i had no subs in the part where JY calls someone while JE is in her car. so just assumed he called that lawyer to get the documents and... ?
still don't know who he called tho
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pioonerium
September 1, 2016 at 12:27 AM
Lee Eun Soo, JT's mom.
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rainhana
September 1, 2016 at 12:42 AM
oh thanks. i just re watched and read about the missing parts.
7 ilove_huge
August 31, 2016 at 11:38 PM
Love this episode !!!
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8 alasecond
August 31, 2016 at 11:41 PM
Surprisingly,
The deadpan poker face of Suzy is exactly what is becoming her strength right now..
No acting kinds of gives a much more mentally and emotionally stronger NE.. who is unfazed in most of the weird circumstances
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9 Carmen
September 1, 2016 at 12:10 AM
I assumed that he claimed he killed her so to protect her; we've seen the lengths that these people will go to and ESPECIALLY how unstable Jung-eun is... it's not impossible that Jung-eun would have, had she known that Eul was the girlfriend/daughter of the man she killed, she would have immediately attacked her, right? I mean, she's already aggressively confronted Eul.
I don't know, that's the only thought I have :) Side note, new to the Korean Drama world so love these recaps which help me understand some of the subtleties that I miss when frantically reading subtitles! Thanks!
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Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 7:22 AM
Yeah he says he killed her.
He did. She flatlines doesn't she? But then he makes the prayer that he will give up on his happiness if only Eul would live. Why? What about us, the audience, Shin Joon Young?
I think he tells the truth here for maximum impact so that Eul cannot easily overrule what he did to her. Because now he knows he must die like Romeo for instance. He does not want his Juliet feeling sorry for him.
Also impactful because he knows he is playing with Jung Euns memories of the accident, because she doesn't have a conscience just yet. So he also wants Jung Eun to have someone to connect with. Maybe she can get his Pinocchio statue to take with her to jail when he dies as a reminder of what she started.
Joon Young being labelled a drug addict in gossip world, never saw that coming though. It makes you think that it never rains but pours for Joon Young. Maybe if his girlfriend really died, this would have been Fair play by the media. No matter who the source was of such career damaging slander, my money is on CHJ or Yoon, or both.
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10 amy_kyne
September 1, 2016 at 12:12 AM
Thanks LollyPip for the recap :) Watching this episode last night got me thinking, what would I have done if I were in NE's shoes? As of right now, she basically knows all the secrets:
(1) JY not having much time left to live
(2) JY was the snatch thief who inadvertently caused her accident
(3) JE being the person who killed her father
(4) JY being the son of CHJ - the corrupt prosecutor
The worst part for me is because she felt deeply for him as her lover and friend, the betrayal is not something you can forgive easily. Anywho, looking forward for tonight's episode, jsut hoping that both of them remain true to themselves.
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gem28
September 1, 2016 at 1:02 AM
Its not fair to Eul, she can't and will not hate him with the same intensity had she not known about his illness. Not everybody is like that Ji-Tae that she will rub salt on it. She will be deeply hurt but probably will find a way to forgive him.
And Choi, can Joon Young's mother go and beat the crap out him. Nobody except Haru in that family deserves success or happiness. That family of evil needs to face their doom.
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amy_kyne
September 1, 2016 at 1:33 AM
I agree with you wholeheartedly, it is not fair for NE. She will definitely forgive him because at the end of the day, what's the point of hating someone who is dying ?
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lookingvacant
September 1, 2016 at 1:52 AM
This is why I kind of wanted her to find out about JY involvement in her accident before her finding about him being ill, so she can deal with it properly, without the pressure of whether it is right for her to hate someone who is dying, cos you know, betrayal is a big deal, well, for me at least. Like she will be really given the opportunity to forgive him for what he has done, and not partly because he is dying. But I guess there is no right or wrong here, cos both conflicts are massive, I don't want to speculate how writer will resolve this cos my brain hurts.
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Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 2:51 AM
Lol, my brain hurts too.
But I still love this drama and reexamining the show afterwards.
I think if the writer has more of a shock to our system it would be that Eul knew JY stole her bag resulting in her accident. But because of the trauma and subsequent traumas she not really forgot per say, she just somehow could not believe it was him. So maybe deep down she already forgave the thief, even if she wasn't sure it was him.
missjb
September 1, 2016 at 2:11 AM
Well it's something u can't forget easily, but it's not like he is doing nothing after that. He deserve forgiveness too. It's not easy to dedicate your remaining life and doing it not for yourself but for the sake of someone else, even aiming to destroy your own father, why not forgive him?
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lookingvacant
September 1, 2016 at 3:09 AM
Yes, but let's say JY wasn't dying, take it out of the equation, the impact is lesser. I do not think NE will forgive him so easily if he wasn't dying. More and more I think writer maybe is using JY's illness as that push for NE's forgiveness, and also really, karmic justice, JY did an awful thing, and he went unpunished for years, didn't even admit what he did to no one, even tried forgetting it himself. If JT hadn't known I guess he would have walked off into the sunset with NE back in EP 11(?) when he was planning to get NE out of jail.
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Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 3:27 AM
The dark side of the sun, if you will.
It is not the illness that is the point, the point is he didn't need to ask the dramas writer for such a befitting punishment.
Admitting his mistake and his involvement in covering up Choi's indiscretions would have been forgiven by Eul no matter how late he admitted it.
Karmic justice deserves to burn in hell, where JY could have been spared at least his memories where at all times he is aware of what he did before he dies. As his punishment.
missjb
September 1, 2016 at 4:07 AM
The guilt is his most punishment beside his illness... But it's interesting topic though. What if JY didn't steal her bag? does she won't get hit by accident? Did that USB really had a big impact to seek her father's justice.... ? Eul didn't had any evidence. That USB was just a bite to bring down CHJ, not to solve the real accident. JY poor mom is recorded in the video. It's not only his father but His poor mother was also there as a hostess.
Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 5:09 AM
@MISSJB
Madam Song is a hostess that was the blackmail, him frequenting the same woman behind his well connected wife's back. She is different to Shin Young Ok, although it will appear that they have requested the same actress to take both roles. It's just her makeup that is different, although I could be mistaken.
I don't know why that was a trumph card they decided to give to Eul. And why unbeknownst to each other JiTae and Joon Young were both there when she decides to blackmail CHJ.
But I am so glad that yes Joon Young made the biggest mistake of his life but at least he did something. I wonder on viewing the USB for the first time if JY was in some way angry or afraid that his mother would be harmed as well if the USB ever came to light in the news, thus Ruining Choi but also the repercussions could have been severe for the Shins as well. It is inexcusable what Joon Young did at that time but he had a reason, no matter how small.
mary
September 1, 2016 at 5:11 AM
@missjb, it wasn't CJY's mom in the USB. Just a bar madam who looks like Mom that Prosecutor Choi drinks with regularly because she looks like his lost love.
Ari
September 1, 2016 at 5:38 AM
@MISSJB
JY's mom was never a hostess, it was clearly mentioned that there was a look-alike whom Choi visited.
aaaa
September 1, 2016 at 6:54 AM
okay please explain to me how ji tae is evil? it's so upsetting to see people go against him because he's against the male lead, while his actions were (for the most part) justifiable.
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Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 7:38 AM
@aaaa
Oh on the contrary, JiTae has done a complete 180, he has gone from being motivated via jealousy to actually standing up for someone even if it is Joon Young. By confronting his seemingly innocent mother about being the source of the SJY drug abuse rumors. This proves that JT had moved on from being a coward and that he can actually stand up for someone even if he doesn't like them.
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September 1, 2016 at 8:05 AM
Yes, he has gone from cowardice to defying his own parents for justice. His character is very first male lead material. JT suffered an internal crisis between family and justice. But now that he chose justice, people are still against him, while they all applaud when JY was seeking his own 'justice' in which he purposely hurts NE even more. (Whatever his reasons, that's cruel and uncalled for.) The double standards that plague this show is suffocating. The writers messed up those bits of the show and that makes for an unpleasant watch and frustrating arguements between viewers.
11 Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 12:14 AM
Really liked SJY for being so warm towards his mother and rushing to her aid and for going with her guilt trip with Eul in his old room. Before they retire for the night in their peaceful position I pray that SJY has a drama form of this tumor, because after all this is just a drama. How about phantom-brainstem glioma? Or a tumor that disappears when it is... Blah, blah blah, hey I am not a drama land doctor.
Who deserves forgiveness here? It seems like CHJ has become a down right scoundrel. And he is the main guy I would like to see crash and burn, maybe even an orange jumpsuit would be nice. He has absolutely no reason to be mean to SJY, also knowing that he is his son, but he is exceptionally cruel because of what? He doesn't want to lose his position. That is just plain, I have no words.
The more I think about it Young Ok did the right thing leaving CHJ and is better off with her oppa. That way SJY developed a kind, justice for the poor, always do the right thing persona. Always do the right thing even if you will lose out in the biggest way. Even when you have messed up, manipulated or influenced, but you are willing to take the blame for your part. SJY is really the good son. But that is because perhaps Young Ok knew deep down that power corrupts and that strangely enough she could show SJY that how to be the person his father never was but pretended to be.
You get the feeling from before in the show where SJY acts as a caring Hyung at Jik's school that Jik had another moment with SJY from the past, or is Kim Woo Bin that good?, it could not have been a bond at the event of Eul's accident as it seems SJY was almost immediately forced into acts of goodwill, helping Gook Young, and staying away from Eul. Maybe he felt that he hurts everyone he loves around him? Now that is an explanation to noble idiocy. But why she fell for him on high school makes sense now, what was the date of her fathers accident again?
I like how Nari immediately disapproved of Haru on learning her ties to the Choi's of blood. Poor Jik he will be lucky to come out of that household alive or at least just crippled in emotions like Eul. Eul's heart stops right on the operating table, the USB theft, so she practically died. Hey at least SJY has told the truth for once, will it stir up emotions in Jung Eun about the man she killed?
Wow like father like daughter in the Yoon household, "I want what I want!", even if it means I must send you to Anerica, where you become proficient in English and can start doing the subtitles for your own movie!!! Or even this show, Jung Eun but if your anti-hero, SJY, has anything to say you will be working behind prison bars, lol!!!
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patinalee
September 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM
You were right that Jik's and JY's bonding did not happen around the time of Eul's (father's) accident. That bonding occurred on 15th March, 2005, the day that NE fell in love with JY, disclosed by NE while she was filming JY's staged proposal of JE. Her father's hit-and-run was on 5th Dec, 2006, shown by the posters drawn up seeking witnesses to the hit-and run. So, there was a period of about 1 1/2 years when NE could have written of her crush on JY in her diary, to be read by Jik later.
The other timelines in the show are: -
2009 - JY studying law in varsity, and
2011 - Election year, when Choi ran for office; JY and NE reconnecting after NE reappeared after running away from her debt collectors and the USB incident.
Just had to put the timelines somewhere. :-D
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Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 12:30 PM
Lol, Woo Bin looked so adorable in A Gentlemans Diignity, and he looked exactly the same in this. With The very young Jik at the swing, JY was supposedly in 10th grade then and when he found out Eul moved as a result of her fathers passing he was 11th grade.
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Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 1:49 PM
Oh yeah lol, I know this because I keep on watching "A little braver by New Empire" but a specific video by a Thai fan, it is an awesome video, the part that goes something like: '...we met each other at the house of runaways, I remember it perfectly...' In that video you see SJY, in school attire, receive the phone call from Eul to thank him for carrying her fathers photo at the funeral procession. Any way maybe I am mistaken by some of the details, but that is a really good video.
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patinalee
September 2, 2016 at 9:09 AM
Did you mean this? :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0piFnWHReA
Love it too! :-)
12 juzluvpink
September 1, 2016 at 2:04 AM
When JY said "they need to learn that it’s a sin to have Choi as a husband and father." I believe he is also referring to himself (having Choi as his father), that it's a sin for him. He thus deserves all the sufferings.
I don't quite understand why he said "I killed by girlfriend" since he shouted for NE to ask if she is watching everything. And by saying "GF" I think everything will know or will assume it's NE. Maybe he meant killing her figuratively since she had been "living in darkness, unable to move on".
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gem28
September 1, 2016 at 5:11 AM
I am watching live today, after weeks this show has plot movement. Like that what happens next, this is what you want after an episode ends.
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13 Haifss
September 1, 2016 at 5:07 AM
I suppose it is fruitless to ask the powers that be to turn this depressing avalanche around. I mean there is no winning in this and the murdering creep is still going to be scott free.
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14 randomblah
September 1, 2016 at 6:57 AM
Why do I feel like Ji-tae's reason for existence is to tell people off?
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Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 10:25 AM
I think Ji Tae is improving, like he stood up for Joon Young by confronting his mother if she was the source of the drug rumors.
Also Joon Young also improved where he tells CHJ to hit him then on the pier before he hits CHJ and becomes even more dishonorable. For instance hitting an elder who is old enough to be his father, is his father. He doesn't overreact for his mother and Eul and rather psychologically tests CHJ on what is right and wrong.
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15 aaaa
September 1, 2016 at 7:16 AM
JY's actions will forever remain shady, won't they? Do the writers expect the viewers to sympathise with someone so incapable of treating people in a kinder way? There is absolutely NO NEED for JY to treat NE like that. The arguement in which JY feels so bad that he thinks he needs to push NE away is invalid. If he feels bad, he wouldn't cause her more pain. If he loves her so much, he wouldn't be able to sleep at night, knowing his actions hurt her. But that's clearly not the case. He's in some pursuit of his messed-up version of justice and I can't help but view it as highly idiotic. His character is very frustrating to watch and it seems like the writers push all the angst onto him into the show. Sloppy move there.
With JE, I do feel some sort of pity. Having been raised in such conditions, it's only natural to act the way she does. I do question her 'love' for JY but seeing things from her view, it doesn't seem all that stupid. She wasn't raised in a way for her to be able to experience things, like love, properly. JT's mom seems very obsessed with the idea of JE & JT's marriage and she's prevented her from the opportunity to actually fall in love before, so I don't really blame JE for her abrupt confession. However, her future actions really will tie up my views on her as a character so I look forward to more scenes with her.
Haru & Jik is a pairing I've spotted ever since they met. They were obviously going to end up falling for each other, but with the familial issues, I'm not sure they'd make it to the end. With 3 episodes left, I don't see how they'd resolve their family's past and so I look forward to this, too.
The villains in this show are a big blur to me. I see JT's mom as more of the actual villain & Choi is just a not-so-evil villain. His evil is definitely inferior to that of his wife. I have a feeling that this show will end with that issue resolved but I'm not so sure how, either. I do hope JT plays a part in it. He deserves to be a part of his parents' takedown and I think he's the only one capable of doing so, but JY's plans are all under-the-radar so I'm not sure.
NE's character is a sad one. I don't know whether I'm glad or not that she's still sticking by JY. He's a blatant jerk to her and she deserves so much more than him. I don't hope for them to be end-game because JY really does not deserve NE.
All in all, this show better end with JY dead and NE with happiness and freedom from her past. If it doesn't end either way, it would just be a waste of a good 10 weeks.
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September 1, 2016 at 8:10 AM
For the sake of being on the side of the opposition, Joon Young, over Ji Tae, I will comment. Lol I am so invested in this show. Maybe it's because I love being addicted to dramas?
So... but why in all fairness is JTs inaction seen as better than JYs sporadic behavior?
That is why I like the drama though, it's sort of: if only JY didn't mess up so bad I could have some argument to stick with. So not despite of but because JY has messed up so bad that I like him better.
JT would still be sitting on his laurels and waiting for mommy and daddy to hand over the reigns over power to him in the present day if it wasn't for JY being all over the place as competition both of Their fathers affection and Eul's love.
Oh and how convenient that JT was raised in a family where he has both his parents who never had to steal, cough, like Young Ok or sell things on the side street like Eul's father. Joon Young is a thief and Eul is a broker at best and beggar at worst, after all as her father was because that's what you do when you of the working class, is it any surprise?
I suppose it is easy to get a sense of what is right and wrong if you grow up not having to witness your parents struggle, for their and your mere survival.
Ji Tae is a spoilt adult sized brat, who could not even be honest that he was trying to help Eul and Jik from the beginning. But let's be fair to the kind-hearted, sarcasm intended, Ji Tae.
So at least JY has made sure that Eul will never truly be happy with a goodie two shoes like Ji Tae. Kudos to JY, well played. So to be honest JT has won the race but he has lost the battle, what was it again?
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September 1, 2016 at 8:31 AM
To answer the second statement you ended with a question mark, JY's behaviour was very reckless can right from the beginning. He pursued NE and did all he could for her, causing huge issues for his manager and company to deal with while he's off in yet another attempt to romance NE into his arms. If you want to talk about honesty, did JY ever plan on telling NE about his illness? Did he even think twice of telling NE that he was the reason she got into that crash? As far as I remember, it's a no.
JT acted in a non-reckless, non-idiotic way. He didn't cause anyone trouble for his actions, but I will say that he did hurt NE when he disappeared without notice and reason. But JY did that, too, and at even worse extent.
JT never watched his parents suffer, but how is that his fault? Him being born into privilege isn't his fault, whatsoever. So using that against him is invalid. If anything, it's actually admirable. To grow up in such an environment and to still know what's wrong is wrong, despite familial links.
Yes, it took time for him to act but it's his family for goodness' sakes. As you said, his family is the reason he had a comfortable upbringing. For him to betray them just like that would've been stupid. He gave it some hard thought, and I appreciate that, as it is better than stabbing someone (who's the reason you're well-educated and well-fed) in the back over some misdeeds they've done abruptly. He thought things through and JY was the final boost that JT needed to take action. He started his quest out of jealousy, I admit that. But now, it's clearly turning out to be more than that for him.
All the mental debates he has had with himself will finally simmer down once he gets the thing he longs for (now more than ever), which is justice for NE and what's right.
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September 1, 2016 at 9:22 AM
Is it bad that I like the fact that Joon Young messed up? Yes, and it is pretty bad isn't it?
I can't fault Ji Tae on breaking the law though, unless aiding and abetting is a chargeable offence. Covering up for dad, mom, even for SJY. And Jung Eun? What does he, Ji Tae supposedly have on her?
Wrong the only reason SJY was allowed to get away with his self destructive behavior for so long even now is because bystanders like Ji Tae just sit back and do nothing because he is afraid of losing status and betraying his family.
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September 1, 2016 at 11:28 AM
JT didn't abet, nor did he aid those people in their crimes. He just did not take action. Yes, he was a coward, but he was a young man when it all happened. I don't think he was at an age where he understood everything, not to mention taking action against those things.
And I don't think JT worried that much of his status. To him, it was something that was just there. He didn't bother much with keeping up appearances; he faked his identity with NE & Jik because he didn't want to be associated with his father (or family) while he was befriending them and he didn't want to have his family know of his relation to NE & Jik.
So, yeah, JT was inactive for a large chunk of the story, but I understand his reasons as to why he acts the way he does and, unlike JY, there was no other way that wasn't reckless and senseless.
aaaa
September 1, 2016 at 11:34 AM
Oh yeah, as for liking JY and the mess he is, that's all on you. Just don't dismiss the idiocy that's apparent in his actions and acknowledge how his flaws can be overwhelming. Be fair as to how you judge the character, despite how you feel about him.
Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM
Bias in a drama toward the main character, I am all for that. It must be the extra information that is revealed through the unconventional protagonist, especially with UF.
So what I like about the character, SJY, is that he is or was a decent human being that cannot be exonerated in the present day, I really searched but could find nothing. And by they way I liked how he brushed off the event and exact date Eul reveals she fell for him. He totally deserved to know the reason she liked him from the start.
Unfortunately the character Eul falls in love with the compassionate SJY, and then he changes, but what is her view on that... Did he change like CHJ changed? No he did not he always resented CHJ even from school when Ajusshi tries to scare that cop that prosecutor CHJ is his father.
Is he only acting because he is going to die soon? Of course it is because of that.
I feel like a defense attorney for the person who wants to lose. But why, is there any hope for romance at the end of all of this or will get her chance to kick SJY without Pororos interference she should totally go for the same shin. But she won't he is dying after all and Eul is lucky she is alive because if she went to oust CHJ that night I am pretty sure Choi's wife would have gone after her and Jik and like you say Ji Tae was too much of a young confused guy to stop that from happening and then Choi's wife would have gone after Young Ok, assuming she was Song. I think CHJ was more afraid that his wife madam Lee would seek out SYO and harm her than his position at that point, now he is beyond even that in the present day.
Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 2:03 PM
Forgot to add.
Hypothetically if SJY left Eul to oust Choi: If then Crazy wife, madam Lee got wind that Eul was responsible for the USB blackmail and ruining her family, because she was clearly healthy at that point because she went with Choi to Young Oks restaurant for his campaign event.
Anyway I am pretty sure madam Lee as we saw earlier how she threatened Eul with nearly knocking over Jik, poor HAru her mother dwindling out her prospects even further since the other option was clearly incest, lol. It is apparent that madam Lee would have used weapon of choice: a car to take out both Eul and Jik anyway. Of course Ji Tae would have done like he always did, absolutely nothing. Ji Tae wants to put the blame on SJY when clearly his family is capable of worse.
Rooting for this drama
September 1, 2016 at 3:26 PM
And then I go and watch episode 18, hahaha. No spoilers. I just think I am never going to recover from everything that just occurred.
16 Chidera erasan
September 1, 2016 at 11:12 AM
I really don't want SJY to die but i know that is where this drama is leading to i will really love it if NE uses JT for her reveng if SJY dies in this drama i don't think NE will ever find love again in JT please this drama should not leave me heart broken like 49 days
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17 tura
September 1, 2016 at 12:41 PM
Forget Eul and Joon young, I am now shipping Eul with Joon young's mom
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18 Potato
September 1, 2016 at 5:46 PM
Never imagined this drama gonna be my cup of tea. It's such a beautiful love story and hands down for Joon-young portrayal by kim woobin <3 i can feel the emotions the cast deliver and i can root for them. That's what i really search for when i watch a drama. Quite sad it doesn't receive the love it deserve.
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19 Gidget
September 1, 2016 at 9:35 PM
What a doofus. He chooses not to get treatment then blames God for not intervening?
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solvey
September 1, 2016 at 11:19 PM
treatment wouldn't be much help. even people who get treatment can suffer from various problems with memory. also we all wish, that God will be merciful to us. Now people with cancer even more than others. They wish to be less in pain, less suffer, not be burned to others and get magically cure.
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Gidget
September 2, 2016 at 7:25 AM
Re: treatment wouldn't be much help.
You can't know until you try. I have a fried that was cured of a late stage brain stem glioma. Took a nationwide search and lots of persistence to find a doctor willing to operate (in the end she/her family convinced the nation's best teaching hospital to approve it as an experimental surgery). And since the surgeon couldn't remove the entire tumor without her dying on the operating table, she also fought to survive as she went through an intensely brutal course of radiation and chemotherapy.
And her cognitive abilities were intact. After a few years of recovery, she got a masters degree at Stanford.
She'll tell you it was a miracle wrought through treatment. Undoubtedly God's mercy.
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Rooting for this drama
September 2, 2016 at 9:31 AM
Thank you for this!
Can I quote you all over the place. So that people can know it's possible to be cured.
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Gidget
September 2, 2016 at 7:07 AM
But since the first episode he's constantly playing the blame God card. It's ridiculous. Having memory problems is not a sign of God's cruelty. It's a simply a feature of this disease (like you say, whether you get treatment or not.)
I do agree with you that sometimes it's the deep trials that brings us to our knees and awakens an awareness of a need for God. But, you want His help, it'd be better to ask for help humbly than arrogantly accuse God of having bad character.
He doesn't HAVE to help anyone. And sticking your finger in God's eye' is never a good idea.
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September 2, 2016 at 11:59 AM
He wasn't talking about his illness alone, as the world being cruel to him and Eul. He was talking about all the obstacles seperating them. And all the people involved in the accident cover up of her father and the great lengths they went to, to do that. That Eul had to resort to blackmail in the first place.
So that is what JY was saying and he actually does not really want that cure at this stage because he wants to be punished, as long as Eul's suffering will come to an end because of the unrelenting bad guys in this drama. And oh, he very well knows that he has also become one of those bad guys. A very shame that such a contrite soul could not be absolved in any way, shape or form.
But let me put it to you this way SJY does not realise it but he actually saved Eul and Jik's life; admittedly, unknowingly ... When he stole that USB, because either Madam Lee or CHJ would have gone after them and possibly killed them at that point, and Ji Tae would have just done nothing about it, of course.
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20 cheekbones
September 1, 2016 at 10:46 PM
*sigh* Finally..... Eul has some idea of what's going on with Joon-young. It's so late, and the drama still goes around and around.
I watched I'm Sorry I Love You but don't really remember the exact story lines. However, I'm getting an impression that UF is somehow closer to I'm Sorry in narrative style, than, say, Nice Guy. Am I right ?
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solvey
September 1, 2016 at 11:16 PM
yes, you are.
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21 missjb
September 1, 2016 at 11:40 PM
God, Suzy acting is getting worse and worse.. I can't stand it anymore.. She is the reason I don't feel anything on her. She is very limit actress.... I don't feel pain of No EUl suffering in this episode.... Why they choose her I don't know.... They cast the wrong leading female lead.... If there is something UF the most lacking, is choosing a bad cast... It's not only suzy, several cast is just cringe worthy. haha...
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22 Winnie
September 2, 2016 at 6:54 PM
I think at the end when he says he killed her, it's because of the accident with the car AND because he knew all a long that his dad covered up what really happened to Eul's dad. He didn't help, nobody helped her and that killed her soul. She no longer helps anyone and only thinks of money cause of everything that's happened to her.
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23 Stev
September 7, 2016 at 7:36 PM
First of all thanks for the wonderful review, I do agree at the early part of the drama, Eul is not that captivating, but as the drama went ahead (and I guess she became more understanding of Eul character) I can say it got better and better, now I can watch without frowning trying to understand what emotions she wants to show and made me feel.
For Joon young, I agree being such an ass is unnecessary for pushing Eul away, but on the other hand I do understand the reason. He doesn't want to make Eul leave him, he needs her to hate him, because he thinks he totally deserves it for the things he did to her, making her love him while she knows nothing about his sin (although it is not him who cause the accident) seems unfair to Eul.
Despite the contradiction of love and hate the viewers experience toward the plot, I think Woo-bin really grows as an actor, I know he can act like a bastard very well, but because of UF I can see other sides of acting he can carry, as a son, boyfriend, and as person who ain't easy to be brought down no matter hardship he face and still kick asses.
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