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eerinmide

June 17, 2016 at 10:57 AM

LOL! I keep forgetting that she did those steamy ads with Won Bin and is now dating a Kim Won Bin... although to be technical, his real name is Kim Hyun Joong.

LOL! Shin Mina keeps setting major LIFE GOALS!

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PeepsLeAwesomePotato

June 17, 2016 at 11:19 AM

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michykdrama

June 17, 2016 at 6:16 AM

Depends on the drama I think. If it's good and I'm DYING to see the next episode and what happens next then it becomes addictive and I Can't stop if I know there is another episode available. Sometimes if the story is draggy it also helps that I can quickly watch the parts I don't like and concentrate on the bits I do!
But yeah I do agree sometimes if you marathon then because of things like sleep deprivation and hunger (which happened to me at 4 am when I just HAD to watch the last 2 episodes of the drama) the interesting nuances get missed and it spoils the drama as a whole.

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Sancheezy

June 17, 2016 at 6:17 AM

Marathon can make a drama less-compelling,

It makes me tired and forgets some important detail

I like to watch 4 ep max when marathoning before takes a rest or stop when I annoyed by the main character,

Marathoning also highlighting the things they do often,
like how often they getting drunk misunderstanding,
how often they miss the important schedule because a little thing that doesn't need,
how often the story takes a turn around when talking about an important subject,
how many fan service they give each episode,
or how the secondary character became less and less important besides getting so much premise before

but sometimes, marathon work for me in weekend drama when I only like a certain couple and skip the others story or the overly long and complicated angst to get over it shortly

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Ally

June 17, 2016 at 6:17 AM

I don't know if it makes me like it less but the show is usually less memorable. I remember the shows I watch as they were airing better than the ones I marathoned..even if they weren't necessarily that good.

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azkaa

June 17, 2016 at 6:19 AM

For some drama, yes. We don't get to feel the hype, the discussion or anticipation of waiting every week. And as you say, the flaws tend to stand out.

But it goes both way for me. Marathoning what seems to be originally a good show makes me appreciate the structure of storyline and other aspects. I marathon IRY, IOIL, Liar Game, Bad Guys and many other my fav-list drama; while i do recognize some flaws, the overall goodness outweighs the badness and it makes me love the show even more.

I like marathon bcs i can watch it in my own pace based on my schedule. And also bcs i don't like surprise, dramaworld tends to surprise me in not very good way. Whatever rocks our boat i guess ?

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Kiara

June 17, 2016 at 6:55 AM

It depends on the genre for me. If it's light and fluffy I'd prefer to marathon it. If it's heavy and serious, I'd prefer to watch,stop and absorb. Maybe read or do a little research to help me understand it more.

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drawde2000

June 17, 2016 at 7:15 AM

This would be my answer as well. I would not want to marathon Answer Me 1998, Six Flying Dragons or Dear My Friends. But Cheese in the Trap, Hogu's Love, Flower Boy Next Door, and Answer Me 1997, I can marathon if all episodes are available at the time.

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apluszee

June 17, 2016 at 9:50 AM

I have a (bad) habit when I'm doing a drama marathon and there's a recap of it on dramabeans, I'd would read through the recap AS i was watching the drama. It's that bad, and then I start to skip some parts (as I can read them and can sense it'll be a bit mehh). But it's the damn curiousity that made me do it, I can't help not knowing. Therefore, it's better for me to watch current airing dramas than marathoning a finished one.

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melica

June 17, 2016 at 10:06 AM

I find the opposite. I get more engrossed. In waiting a week I lose my momentum for a show and my attention goes to something else.

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am1993

June 17, 2016 at 10:32 AM

SAME! Unless I am completely obsess with the drama and it is all I think about, I also tend to lose my momentum with airing dramas

It depends a lot on what the show was made for. The genre and production of the show influence what it will feel like as you watch. For example Signal holds up even if binge watched because it was pre-produced and tightly plotted.

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PakalanaPikake

June 17, 2016 at 4:29 PM

Does Marathoning a show makes you like it less ?

No, it does not. If anything, it helps me keep track of plot developments and characters, especially in sageuks with a cast of thousands. ;-)

Then again, I never fast-forward. If anything, I end up rewinding like crazy to be able to catch the subtitles.

I should probably pace myself better, though, and not binge on 16 episodes in 2-3 days. Ah, the addictive joys of Kdramas. ;-)

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3 Sancheezy

June 17, 2016 at 6:09 AM

Happy Weekend, not watching much drama lately
upon watching Lucky Romance , I've been thinking about Bo Nui character, as I think about it, she always got a bad luck, then her parents passed away when they got her a ticket, her sister got an accident when she applies in Zeze, and she's been alone for 2 years. She works part time to paid the medical bill while working in IF to make her sister can live normally when she wakes up. So around 2 years, she been working and living for her sister and try all medical application for her which doesn't work. She then adds the mystical force to give her a new hope.

It's sad, she gets it real hard, even when I remember Suho and Geun Wook just appear in her life so she has no one before? I can relate to her because there's a time when you already write down what's gone wrong, make a list of what you should do and you shouldn't, thinking it all and then realize your tears never stop falling, your heart still beating hard, these guilt feeling can't leave while the reality of your failure still standing firmly and no one here to talk about it . Just because we've thought it all, doesn't mean our heart can take it all. It's the breaking point of blaming yourself when the only people who can ease your heart is not there. The people who matter isn't there and can't be there.

She is depressed and this is how suho takes part, he cares about her and persistent on his logical solution. Bo Nui badly needs someone to hold her, to support her and I want her to regain her life back. This gonna be better as a melodrama with humor.

aaaaaand I just heard about Yoochun case, oh god, I grew up listening to TVXQ and many of their music. I'm not his fan but this is shocking beyond belief.

TL:DR Lucky Romance doesn't provide enough backstory for Bo Nui, (so far) her depression and loneliness all these yearbut hint it vague by people stories and RIP my DB5K reuniion
Doushite??

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bips99

June 17, 2016 at 6:20 AM

I don't follow Kpop at all but i know yoochun through his dramas. I know it is wrong to assume - but in cases like this i tend to side with the girl

No matter how much people claim they are gold diggers, it cannot be easy by a long shot to take on a popular celebrity. The fans backlash, the media stripping your life apart, the battery of lawyers unleashed on you. I don't think many girl would willingly put themselves through this thinking 'i'll make some easy money'

June 17, 2016 at 6:45 AM

I actually think that Bo Nui's character is quite annoying despite of the fact that she is indeed a sweet girl. What bothers me with her character is that she firmly believes in superstition. Just because the famous psychic tells her that she is the cause of all misfortune in her family life, She should not believe in those. She has to be strong not to believe in those crap!!Because by believing in those, she did automatically give in to those powers and became so blinded by silly advice. Yes, at times we go through a hard time and wonder what went wrong with our lives but we have to find a strength in our selves instead of from an advice of a psychic. The story somehow makes the psychic's advice valid because the curse was lifted when they slept together. I hope that two men are going to eradicate her belief. In my life, my mom believes in those advice and she was taken advantaged by so called psychics and ripped off badly but she never stops believing in them and this affected our life badly. What I really found out from my mom's behavior is that the more you believe in those, the worse off you become in the end because you give up your own power to lead your own life on your own.

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mk

June 17, 2016 at 7:02 AM

You do know people have various different belief systems, right? What's silly and nonsense to you is a serious part of other peoples' lives and it's pretty demeaning of you to talk about it this way.

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Sancheezy

June 17, 2016 at 7:03 AM

tbh I really want the stories to be more explored. My impression is that she became super into psychic’s advice/shaman when all medical treatment for Bora become useless and she can do no more to helps her, it's supports with the doctor statement. She doesn't want to accept the reality or let Bora go.

Then the shaman intrigued her, showing how valid their prediction about her past live and give her a hope, hope that no one can give at the moment regarding Bora. Hope that he has another way that keeps her do something for Bora by any means

People like Yoochun and Kangin don't deserve to be in this industry. Don't want either back, and I don't think they will be back. I couldn't even enjoy EXO's wins after this whole Yoochun thing happened.

I'm not a Yoochun fan either, but I do like Junsu and Jaejoong, and I can't imagine how this will affect them. I hope JJ can continue as a duo, and that Junsu's concerts tomorrow and the day after won't be affected.

Btw if it helps you feel better, Jaejoong and Yunho interacted at a Military Concert, so atleast we know they're on talking terms.

If I were Bonui, I would go insane. Handling a comatose family member you love for two years. She convinces herself that she is the source of bad lucks for everyone. People call her stupid, but for me she is just hopeless and hit the bottom of her life.

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4 pebble

June 17, 2016 at 6:10 AM

Last week’s overwhelming comments in OT about OHYA prompted me to watch it and I was instantly hooked. It’s easy to see why this drama is so popular, not only do we sympathize with Hye Young when she was agonizing over her love for Do Kyung, we also like her because she looked the epitome of the inferior self each of us tucked hidden in the corner of our mind. While growing up, who hasn’t felt dejected, belittled and hurt when we were pale in comparison with people around us who were prettier, smarter and more popular? It is more unfortunate for HY as she shared the same name as that gorgeously beautiful classmate and thereafter, her life became undesirably entangled.

Plain HY is sloppy, free-spirited, wilful, forthright talkative and “pabo”, very unlike dainty, pretty and smart OHY. So why did DK fall for her? As she receives so much love from her parents, she in turn has immense capacity to love, so she tend to impetuously fall head-over-heels in love. She loves too eagerly and is easily subject to the beck and call of her man to the extent that she literally set herself up for heartbreak. While DK’s tragic childhood experience relating to the death of his beloved dad made him very sorrowful, he has to put up a steely front to carry the burden of fending for his dysfunctional mum and siblings whom he regarded with pity. As such, he is very used to evoking love through sympathy for others. The pain and humiliation HY went through due to him were so unbearably pathetic in his eyes that his cautious defense went crumbling down to reveal his own vulnerability and his longing to be loved and consoled. HY’s unreserved spontaneous love is like a security blanket which brings warmth to his cold hardened heart and helps him reconnect with his own emotions. Therefore, he rather risked facing the sticky situation and “go as far as his heart takes” to reciprocate HY’s love than to regret it at the point of facing death.

What I also like about OHYA:
- HY’s parents who love their daughter in a non-indulging but nevertheless devoted and supportive manner, in the way they scrutinized DK and fussed over him initially, going all-out to help HY prepare the lunchbox for DK with no questions asked, and the way they sang and cried with her in the noraebang, etc.

- The recurring reference to what DK’s dad said to little DK “Once you acknowledge that things are transient, you don't waste your energy on useless things”. This ties in with the psychiatrist’s supposition that those flashes of HY in DK’s mind are reminisces of what are most important to him when he faces death. Indeed, life is short, let’s not sweat the small stuff!

- Silly Jin Sang, Hoon, DK’s minions and the frenchy and eccentric Isa-dora

- The superb acting by Seo hyun-jin, she completely shook off the uptightness in Feast Of The Gods and Goddess Of Fire

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pebble

June 17, 2016 at 6:11 AM

Beautiful Gong Shim has been quite flat this week. Though Dan Tae discovered that he is Joon Pyo, it lacked excitement as we already knew it. Just want to mention the scene with Dan Tae crying over the warm dinner prepared by Gong Shim after he saw the messages she conveyed through those cute sketches of herself. Seeing two sorrowful men (Eric Mun & Namgoong Min) crying their hearts out in a week is more than enough for my weak heart. Oh yes, who could have thought about it, ABBA’s Andante, Andante rhymes so nicely with Ahn Dan Tae Ahn Dan Tae!! 

Have a great weekend all!

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fay17

June 17, 2016 at 7:05 AM

Maybe I am the only one who can't watch OHY anymore? I really can't keep overlooking how badly normal OHY treats the pretty one.Is she really that bad? The pretty one,I mean ~~ Yes she does tend to say things which supposedly hurts OHY but why does it feel like she takes it too much to heart? Like once the pretty one was talking about how plain OHY's mom used to bring food for her blah blah but it also didn't go down well with plain OHY.It's like there are lot of scenes when just seeing pretty OHY makes plain OHY upset..she's always jealous of her for no specific reason.Even the fact that people praise her makes her down? I don't get why she can't accept the fact that someone her age can be successful and people can take her as a role model.It's okay right? Doesn't it make her look shallow and all? If she was happy in her own skin she would not be bothered by people like pretty OHY right? It's like she can't even accept to breathe in the same air as pretty OHY does :S and at times because of this reason I was hesitating to take side with her, her logic to have all those conflicts with pretty OHY are somewhat all result of her inferior complex and that's why when she keeps saying ' I hate OHY!'..I feel like I'm taking the wrong sides.Hell in another dramaland she could be a villain for all that matters :S...IMO.
Also Do Kyung,tsk this guy. This guy wrongfully makes one man suffer,and then he had the audacity to go confront this man and beating him up,just cause he said ' I hate the way you eat?' :S Also without even explaining himself he thinks it's okay to injure him again after all that he did to him once.I don't see one bit of remorse in his face and I don't know how it's okay. All I can see is how the drama went wrong in places,and the little lighthearted romance or kisses can't make it up for me :S. It's ethically wrong I think..yeah.Sorry for the rant over.

Thanks starnger for the correction.

Hi limbo, I do see your point here. After we got to see things from the perspective of pretty Hae-young, I sort of empathize with her insecurity, why she actually feels that she will always be defeated by kids raised by loving parents. The way she always smile though she feels like crying inside is quite pathetic. Both of them have their shortcomings, plain HY is wilful and kind of pampered by her parents, so like what you described, she is unreasonable at times and is overly resentful and jealous of pretty HY. But we can forgive her pettiness as she did suffer quite a lot because of pretty HY. Also, Seo hyun-jin's acting made HY very likable, her bubbly and talkative behaviour makes it easier for viewers to like her than the pretentious and uptight pretty HY.

Yes, Eric Mun's face can be very mean, the way he grinned spitefully at TJ in the lift was quite evil. There is no doubt, DK is quite cruel, he admitted it himself that in order not to get hurt, he always gave the bare minimal, ensuring that he is less kind than the kindness of others and more hostile than the hostility of others. So in this regard, you are right, he is 100% nappeun seki, However, like what starnger said, they are just plain human with flaws, so let's let it slide, and just sit back to enjoy the show. :)

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fay17

June 17, 2016 at 8:15 AM

Haha pebble I'm just sharing my pov and yeah as you said OHY is pampered a lot by her parents ..Also in her office she vigorously talks about how her life was miserable in school...because of pretty OHY..all those time she did not sound like a victim rather I got the feeling that she's very much vocal about what she feels.So I don't quite see her as a victim here...life is hard with everyone and same goes for the pretty OHY.
@Sancheezy exactly...As no one is seemingly not 'perfect' in this drama or can get away with wrong behaviors..... then why give special treatment to the leads? Apparently cause they are the leads I guess,lol.

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Nina Chikovani

June 17, 2016 at 9:42 AM

Thank you for making point, I decieded to watch this drama because of all happy comments, but truth is in this type of dramas I always end up cheering for second leads, who are pretty, look confident and are succesful, while there is main heroine who has none of this and plus has great friends, family and gets all the love from male lead. The first one worked harder and from my point of view deserved more than characters treating her like a bad guy.
Maybe It's just because I'm recognise myself more in those second leads but thanks for saying that show would give me reasons to dislike main lead

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pebble

June 17, 2016 at 4:27 PM

hi Nerdy, though we want to believe that the winner takes it all, life does not work in this way. Yes, if one puts in more effort, the likelihood of being successful is there but still not guaranteed, and happiness is not given to people who most deserved it, nor can it be earned through effort, there is simply no straightforward equation when it comes to happiness. Since we have to sweat it out in real life, we watch drama as a form of temporary respite from reality. It has to have the feel good factor, so someone has to be the fall guy, and the main lead has to look good eventually in order to make mainstream viewers happy, isn't it?

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Nina Chikovani

June 18, 2016 at 3:57 AM

Hi Pebble, yes, maybe I'm being too serious/critical about these type of things in dramas...
P.S can I just say how much I admire people who answer long posts with bad grammar/tons of mistakes and not correct them? <3

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windsun33

June 17, 2016 at 12:50 PM

Yeah, seems that a lot of these dramas just go flat about halfway through. I often get the feeling that they have enough material for about 4 episodes less than they actually air.

June 17, 2016 at 8:43 AM

*high fives starnger*

"Hanja for child"

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PakalanaPikake

June 17, 2016 at 3:35 PM

More movies I've been watching between OHYA installments:

A couple of months ago while watching CITY HALL, I added LIKE THE MOON ESCAPING FROM THE CLOUDS [aka BLADES OF BLOOD] to my watch list to get a gander at Cha Seung-Won in sageuk after seeing him for the first time in MY SON -- which had knocked my socks off. Before I got around to it, though, I ended up watching HWAJUNG/SPLENDID POLITICS, and enjoyed that drama to the hilt.

I finally got around to watching LIKE THE MOON last night. CSW delivers the goods as badass rebel leader Lee Mong-Hak during the First Imjin War (1592). His idealism runs amok and leads to double-crossing of fellow members of the Great Alliance. Baek Sung-Hyun plays aristocratic bastard son Han Kyeon-Ja, who has his eye on gisaeng Baek-Ji (Han Ji-Hye). Hwang Jung-Min is mighty impressive as blind swordsman Hwang Jeong-Hak, who shows Kyeon-Ja the ropes. The overall vibe reminded me of THE KING AND THE CLOWN by the same director, particularly at the end, but also because of its indictment of the court's and nobility's cowardice and infighting that betrayed the nation and its people.

Comments on DB's movie announcements for LIKE THE MOON mentioned Zatoichi, so I watched the 2003 Japanese film THE BLIND SWORDSMAN: ZATOICHI early this morning. Loved the swordfighting in this classic tale of baddies running a town in the boondocks and shaking everyone down. Two geisha are out to avenge their murdered family and servants. Ultimately, itinerant masseur Zatoichi evens the score, and good triumphs over evil after much arterial blood is graphically sprayed.

At about the 1:40:00 mark (i.e., with about 15 min. left) Aunt Oume's new house is shown being constructed using traditional timber framing techniques, including a guy using a commander/beetle to drive home the trunnels and tenons, and carpenters using pull saws. Cool! The denoument features the town festival, complete with taiko drumming and a surreal tap dance routine with three guys (the dancing farmers in the field, who are collectively called The Stripes). Boy, can they dance up a storm. Plus a huge troupe of townspeople and the geisha sisters (both as adults and kids) -- all stomping in their geta. It was like watching Japanese Riverdance meets the Rockettes. Absolutely wild, rhythmic, and intense. I half expected to see Ann Miller, Fred Astaire, and Ginger Rogers join them on stage. It was as if these 19th Century Japanese hicks were channeling Bill Bojangles Robinson. Totally and joyously anachronistic. Will have to check out later installments of Zatoichi.

Zatoichi Dance Festival Ending (Best Quality)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op0b7AyaQn0

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5 michykdrama

June 17, 2016 at 6:10 AM

Happy Friday Beanies!
I'm really excited up about the dramas coming up! how to fit so many drama-watching hours in a week? And still sleep?

Police Unit 38: Glib and charming Seo In Gook as a bad-boy-turned-good, butting heads with straightlaced Ma Dong Seok in a comedy drama. ? plus I love watching a smarter person outwit people trying to smart evading the law. Karma in a hot package.

Beautiful Mind: Jang. Hyuk. Oppa. 'Nuff said.

Doctors: Kick ass Park Shin Hye with hot surgeon mentor nursing a secret crush on her for helping him fix his emotional scars. I have a big soft spot for cute vulnerable men who need fixing.

Then I still have Beautiful Gong Shim which I love.

And I'm also watching I Remember You...

How Beanies? Tell me your secrets... I'm sure some of you have a Time Turner or some secret portal for extra hours in a day!

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fanwho

June 17, 2016 at 10:04 AM

Just let drama take over your life (lol)
Of course you can do if you
stop having your social life
stop doing household chores
stop studying for your exam
and just stop...

7 bips99

June 17, 2016 at 6:14 AM

i watched my first variety show - YOF Africa. I had a slight crush on Bogum before this due to IRY. But after this, i just want to adopt him as a little brother and would totally date RJY. This is why i don't like reality tv - they mess up my fantasies!

watching OHY, LR, MOTW. I want to watch entertainer but the reviews seem strictly average.

I have like 10 upcoming show i want to watch and my real social life is about to get non existent !

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luffypyon

June 17, 2016 at 5:24 PM

Ryu Jun Yeol, Go Kyung Pyo, and Ahn Jae Hong treated him like a little brother :D :D :D. Their bromance was the highlight of this show. YoF Africa made me amazed with Ryu Jun Yeol leadership.

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8 am1993

June 17, 2016 at 6:16 AM

Hope I can get a little help.

Does anyone know who is subbing Police Unit 38?

I checked both viki and dramafever and they don't seem to have it which is odd. You'd think they would have fought over the rights of a highly anticipated Seo Inguk drama.

Idk about Viki and DF,
but VIU app may sub it and maybe the subber will upload after it aired,
or maybe Myasiantv since they are the only one that subbed happy home right now even when VIKI, DF or VIU doesn't take the show.

So I think we better wait,
the drama aired today right??

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mary

June 17, 2016 at 8:51 AM

*cough* myasiantv just steals subs from other sites.

If it's on myasiantv, it was subbed by someone else. It may look like they sub the ones you can't find on popular subbing sites like DF or Viki, but truth is, they also steal from smaller subbers like darksmurfsub or fansites that sub a drama for their idol.

myasiantv doesn't do any subbing at all. They just profit from the work of other subbers.

I can't stop people from watching through myasiantv, but I wish people would know this fact, at least. :(

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Sancheezy

June 17, 2016 at 10:42 AM

I do know it, I rarely watch it from them but I can't find any places that subbed Happy Home,

I search for weeks and I only find it there, that's why I thought the might have some subber only give it to them, , they even in 2 weeks late or more , so I thought they may start it or they may steal it but I don't know any other place that has happy home

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spazmo

June 17, 2016 at 2:20 PM

dramacool dot to has it, along with dramanice dot eu and also goasiantv dot se....

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June 17, 2016 at 7:16 AM

I saw the news article a few days ago. So you will need to search that. But it's also now on their schedule page and on the coming soon section

http://dramafire.com/category/korean-dramas/squad-38/

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Oshi

June 17, 2016 at 11:16 PM

Thank you! God SIG....Have my god damn babies already...

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9 voice

June 17, 2016 at 6:19 AM

did anyone watch the japanese movie 'orange' i watched it the other day and it was so so so amazing! i cried so much and it was so perfect to how i'd imagined it to be (i've read the manga before hand)

if no one has heard of this movie i definitely recommend!

also side note: im really excited for doctors and 38 task force, cant wait to see PSH and SIG

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CaroleMcDonnell

June 17, 2016 at 6:27 AM

I liked Orange a lot and wow that ending..what does it mean?

But so far, my favorite j-movie this month has been Forget Me Not 2015 about the girl who disappears from memory.

June 17, 2016 at 8:39 AM

Japanese drama recs:
-The Memorandum of Kyoko Okitegami (cutest private detective)
- Itazura na Kiss Love in Tokyo (since you liked the 1996 version)
- 1 Litre of tears (spoiler You will cry)
- Kazoku Game (weirdest family drama, mindf*ck, part slice-of-life part psychological thriller, never seen anything else like it)
- Mare (don't let yourself be intimidated by the # of eps, my all time fav)
-Orange Days (lovely campus drama, also sign language!!)
- Orthros no Inu (makes you think about power and society)

Japanese movie:
-Orange (as mentioned above)
-Kimi ni todoke (cute, sweet, fluffy..love it)

Japanese dramas do offer more slice-of-life type of dramas that tend to be more realistic since it depicts the stories of ordinary people (no chaebol or CEO or Idol) and they often made on a lower budget so it's not as "shiny" as kdramas. And they do have a great variety of genres...

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Sancheezy

June 17, 2016 at 8:55 AM

Another J drama recs beside @Am which is a wonderful list
-Thriller
MOZU, Karamazov no kyoday
-Fun and funny
Suten Na Taxi, Manhattan Love Story, Hana Kimi, Nodame Cantabile
-Life stories
Soredemo ikite yoku
Wakamonotachi
Hanzawa Naoki

Jdrama is shorter like 12 ep and IMO used shorter range and more focused on the problem. I think it averagely has richer contain, but they lack of rom com, have many slice of life and procedural show and like @Am not as shyni as Kdrama.
Their comedy is the tricky one, I find it really funny but some of my friends need adjusment.

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fay17

June 18, 2016 at 1:54 AM

Thanks everyone! I would be warming up to jdramas soon I guess.

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junny

June 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM

J-drama rom-com recs:
- Nodame Cantabile (not really rom, but a lot of com, and fantastic music - has drama, 2 SP, 2 films and an anime series)
- Love Revolution
- Long Vacation
- Hotaru no Hikari (2 seasons, 1 film)
- Kekkon Dekinai Otoko
- Over Time

Other J-dramas worth checking out
- Shinya Shokudo (3 seasons, 1 film)
- Shikaotoko Aoniyoshi
- Liar Game (2 seasons, SPs, 2 films)
- Shinzanmono (crime)
- Hero (legal)
- Koori no Sekai (crime)
- Beach Boys
- Okashi no Ie (slice of life)
- Neko Zamurai (if you like cats)
- JIN (medical, 2 seasons)

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fay17

June 17, 2016 at 10:46 AM

Thanks @junny! I am thinking about watching hotaru na hikari ,and 'kazoku game' for now.

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pogo

June 17, 2016 at 10:47 AM

jdrama romcoms?

- Gomen Ne Seishun (more coming-of-age than romcom, but it's really sweet and funny)
- Date

- Hanzawa Naoki (not a romcom, but this is amazing and will have you on the edge of your seat within one episode)

Also, this is a movie and a straight-up comedy with very little romance - Kamikaze Girls. (seriously, watch it. It's about the unlikely friendship between two very different girls, and it's amazing).

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spazmo

June 17, 2016 at 11:49 AM

and Bae Doona is in kamikaze girls!
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pogo

June 17, 2016 at 11:59 AM

No she isn't - that was a different jmovie you're thinking of :)

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spazmo

June 17, 2016 at 7:18 PM

you're right -- it's Linda Linda........
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purpleowl

June 17, 2016 at 1:31 PM

I live for INK adaptations. Where did you find the 1996 Japanese version?

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fay17

June 17, 2016 at 2:24 PM

@Purple Owl From good old youtube ...the quality is quite poor though...It's hard to find good prints for jdramas apparently? So goes without saying that there's not any good print available for the '96 version lol :S .

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June 18, 2016 at 7:32 AM

I am currently watching The Single Teacher Miss Hayako (Hayako Sensei, Kekkon Surutte Honto Desu Ka?). It is ongoing and quite a charm. It is not without its flaws but I very much like the focus on good, kind, smart and brave men being the best candidate for husbands. I marathoned it and now watching episode 8.

I can't not recommend Date.

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Sancheezy

June 17, 2016 at 6:30 AM

I haven't watch it, but I read the manga too,
I've been dying to saw it, I've asked my friend to buy me the DVD,

I am glad that the manga reader loves it,
I think the actor and the actress are okay and do they tell all of the stories?? Do they cut it?

aand it gets 8,1 in IMDB, still without any review but it looked nice

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voice

June 17, 2016 at 6:34 AM

i'm really forgetful and i read the manga last year so im not 100% sure theyve included everything but most of the scenes i remember they were in the manga, and the actors do the characters justice, i loved them all and the movie brought out the same emotion in me from when i read the manga as well, it was a beautifully acted and shot film and will make you cry buckets so make sure you prepare yourself with tissues!

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10 CaroleMcDonnell

June 17, 2016 at 6:24 AM

Hello all:

Am loving the weekend dramas and looking forward to some of the upcoming weekday dramas. Awaiting Squad 38 and bring it on, ghost. Not sure I'll watch Doctors or A Beautiful Mind, though.

Mirror of the Witch: Love the linear feel of the story and how the writer just goes to whole new levels. I feel as if I'm in good hands. The writer has really explored so many possibilities which makes it much more original than the typical stories with a zillion subplots which ends up giving all the stories kneejerk plotlines.

Flower in Prison: Liking this as well. I try not to pick on actors and their skills but in this case I find myself wishing another actress had played our heroine.

J-dramas

Miracle Man Kiseki no Hito -- I am so loving this. It has everything I like. A found family of oddballs and prigs, an imperfect person out to prove himself, a courtship, a disabled child, triumph, love. Really recommend this one.

My Dangerous Wife Boku no Yabai Tsuma -- wow! This one was fun, with a lot of twists and turns. The finale wasn't as great as the preceding episodes, though, what with one just-in-time flaky easy plot incident after another. And the usual Japanese subtext of sneering at older overweight lovelorn women desperate for love ...well, it was one of those easy kneejerk disdain thing that made me know where the story and the guilt of the drama would end up. So, quite good but that ending! Recommend this one as well.

Hi Ho Ko -- This drama is the truest meaning of unsettling.

Sekai Ichi Muzukashii Koi -- this is okay. It isn't charming or manic and kinda plods along but eh...it's a rom-com so I'll endure.

Recommended Japanese Movies: Orange and Forget Me Not (2015)

Happy Weekend, all.

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spazmo

June 17, 2016 at 11:21 AM

i totally second Hiseki no Hito!!
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11 Soetan Abiola

June 17, 2016 at 6:27 AM

I don't get tired marathon-ning dramas i love especially Descendants of the sun,currently on it. I wish it was more than 16 episodes,OH my Venus as well....I need another drama like DOS

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12 azkaa

June 17, 2016 at 6:28 AM

Cheer with me, fellow beanies;
MA DONG SEOK!! MA DONG SEOK!! MA DONG SEOK!!

In the beginning i look forward to seo inguk and sooyoung so much but after watching the trailer i can't believe how hyped i am bcs of ma dong seok. Gosh between this drama and Good Wife, the next 2 months will be blissful ??

June 17, 2016 at 6:46 AM

As I write, there have been 4 girls who have come forward to report. Although yes the reports are still being investigated, innocent until proven guilty and all that, damn I think where there's smoke, there's fire.

Regardless of whether he actually did it, his career is pretty much down the drain.

Look at the example of Park Si Hoo and the furore on any and every thread on DB mentioning his name. Frankly I'm surprised I haven't seen more comments here on DB condemning Yoochun since the story broke.

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mk

June 17, 2016 at 7:08 AM

Yoochun's case appears to be more about sex work, which is undeniably a messy topic but the consent issues are supposedly about failure to pay for services. I think people jsut don't know about the case yet, it seems to be surprisingly lowkey for westerners (I only just found out).

PSH's case, on the other hand, was everywhere and the details indicated straight up assault so I think it has more weight in people's minds. There was even an article on DB I think, but no article about Yoochun's case yet so we don't really have a place to discuss and freakout (besides here lol).

June 17, 2016 at 3:28 PM

There's been coverage about Yoochun and the allegations at Soompi. I also saw an article about it at the Koala's Playground blog.
When the news first broke, I was quite shocked and sad because I really liked his acting work in Girl Who Sees Smells and was looking forward to seeing him again once his army duty was finished.
Now, with 4 girls coming forward, I can't ignore what seems to me to be a pattern of violence towards women.
He was already under fire in Korea due to the fact he was placed at a "desk job" for his military service because of his asthma ( while he continues to smoke cigarettes) which some felt was undeserved special treatment due to his celebrity status. With these other allegations, his career has been badly damaged. I think just the fact that he was caught having sex with a prostitute and then not paying her was enough to send his career into a nosedive.
I do feel sorry for his fans- I'm sure it's devastating news for them and they don't want to believe that a person that they admire could be a monster.

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Rachel

June 18, 2016 at 2:28 AM

Sorry, gotta make a small correction on your comment. Only the first case, where the victim subsequently withdrew her statement, involved a sex worker. The others were all laywomen who met him for drinks either in a bar or in his home.

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Elgarmummy

June 17, 2016 at 8:55 AM

When the first case came out, I was inclined to think he might be innocent. After all, why was it reported by the boyfriend, and why did she keep the evidence yet did not go to get examined right after it?

When the second, third and fourth cases came out, I think of Bill Cosby. The number of victims just keep surfacing.

It takes a lot of courage for any sexual abuse or rape victims to step out, let alone when the perpetrator is famous or rich. By working or appearing in those places (not exactly sure what type of bars they are), the defence lawyers would smear their reputation and claim they were lying.

With other cases, the victims would feel that they are not alone.

I hope that the alleged rapist and the victims would get fair trials. Hope no intimidation takes place.

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PeepsLeAwesomePotato

June 17, 2016 at 9:09 AM

FOUR? FOUR?!?!

Damn, I didn't know what to make of it when the first one came out because I was so blindsided and now it's FOUR?!

I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist. Using what I have learnt from Signal about M.O., FBI's website about criminal profiling, drawing pyschology and what I have read from all the other threads, there are some things that could explain his alleged behaviour.

1. Something terrible must have happened in a bathroom previously. He had sketches of the toilet bowl and naked man with a devil looking face with a sad face hidden there. It could have happened to him or a loved one. Did he see something he should not have? Or did something happen to him?

2. There was reportedly a period where he was very angry and became a recluse. Something must have happened then. It was mentioned that it took place after his father's death.

Yay! It's friday! Happy Friday Beanies!

So I FINALLY finished The Journey of Flower this week!!! It took me MONTHS but I did it! I really enjoyed it, albeit some parts were draggy but Shu Fu and Little Bone moments were amazing near the end..I couldn't believe all that happened to Tang Bao, Sha Jie Jie and Dong Fang (he had it coming!) but man, was it good!

So I've been on a Wallce Huo kick lately after this show and am now watching The Imperial Doctoress….Ahhh Wallace, why do you have to be so darn gorgeous..I can't get enough of him….I'm half way through and enjoying it as well…

Anyone have any recommendations for more Wallace dramas? I've seen Love Me If You Dare…but I'm thinking his older ones are probably very good too, but don't know where to start…Also any recommendations for more WuXia dramas too please!!

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Sancheezy

June 17, 2016 at 6:51 AM

Huo Jin Yan's drama, beside what you already watch
- The vigilante in mask (iljimae, the good version IMO), also has Liu Shi Shi
- Swordsman (he become swordsman that goofy and talented)
- Battle of Changsha , tells a story about an ordinary family in Changsha, Hunan Province, China, coping with the Anti-Japanese war between 1938 and 1945, reflecting Chinese people’s lives during that ill-fated period , ps : he is great here
- Perfect Couple (Imagine Wallace Huo in Rom-com wuxia drama, yeah that's it)
- The Glamorous Imperial Concubine (I don't really recommend this one)
- Chinese Paladin 3 (this with Hu Ge so you may like it for fun)
- At the Dolphin Bay (2003) , lovely romance story as I remember

aand anticipation for Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace (a.k.a. The Legend of Ruyi) (2017)
said to be the 2nd Legend of Zhen Huan and it's about Emperor Qianlong ; during his long reign the Qing Empire reached its most splendid and prosperous era.
He is Yongzhen/4th prince in BBJX son

June 17, 2016 at 10:51 AM

I've seen Scarlet Heart (which I loved!! It'll be interesting to see how Korea adapts such a spectacular drama)…I have Nirvana in Fire on the list and shall add all the other recommendations!!

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Kiara

June 17, 2016 at 7:18 AM

I must admit that I watched The Imperial Doctoress just to fangirl on Wallace. I think he is gorgeous gorgeous man lol.

Get thee behind me, ladies! There goes my list again... ;-)

Dang... resistance is futile. WH was great in LOVE ME IF YOU DARE... So now I can catch him in a wuxia, as the Emperor, no less. SOLD!

June 17, 2016 at 6:53 AM

forget to add Moonlight cloud (?) - the one with Park bo Gum

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korfan

June 17, 2016 at 7:06 AM

WTW -

Hi Everyone! ....... I hope you are all doing well today!

Read the terrible entertainment news. Fan or not, it's awful for everyone involved. That's all I'm saying on this matter. Moving on.

Watched this week:

Beautiful Gong-shim - A truly likeable weekend treat!

Master God of Noodle - Still watching the noodles. ..... Myeong with that side pain--it can't be helpful when you're on a revenge mission.

Entertainer - All the band members! They're too cute together. .... I can see what everyone's been talking about regarding the whole main leads love story---you're right, it does feel forced into the story.

Luther - Just finished season 3. .... Wow, what a show. Absolutely excellent!

That's all for now. ....... Everyone take care and have a great Friday

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redfox

June 17, 2016 at 7:21 AM

which news? Yoochun?

just before my trip there was that matter with Johnny Depp &Amber Heard. I am still confused and unsure... I don´t want to believe that woman. and even if he is a substance user as well, I feel like I cannot throw this guy away. It has been such a long time ... I hope he proves innocent. but even if he did throw the phone, I can sort of understand, I have had my own anger black-outs & kicked and thrown things. I know what can happen- against your own will. it is no excuse, but a person like me cannot condemn someone so identical...

sexual assault is a completely different matter however. that makes men leeches who only deserve to be crushed. yet, letś wait, I dont quite trust the news here either. are there any sources that are reliable in this modern day at all?

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korfan

June 17, 2016 at 7:38 AM

redfox -

Ah yes, I was thinking of one case and not the other. Terrible messes for everyone.

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spazmo

June 17, 2016 at 11:12 AM

i am just heartbroken about both...

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redfox

June 17, 2016 at 11:22 AM

I am just thinking would J. really roam around Transylvania if he was guilty... and his ex-wife has spoken out in his defence. I don´t know what to believe. I don ´t know whether to be heartbroken and for whom. what really worries me is the talk about substance abuse. there is rarely a happy end to that with celebrities. I really don´t want it to go to that.

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spazmo

June 17, 2016 at 11:46 AM

we fall for the celebrity - we know nothing about the person, unless things like come out in the press...

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pogo

June 17, 2016 at 11:18 AM

redfox - I had no great liking for Amber Heard either, but honestly, victims don't have to be likable or nice or talented to be victims.

What Johnny Depp did doesn't sound like some Naomi Campbell-style phone-throwing rage. And after reading io Tillett Wright's account of what he did to Amber, it becomes even more apparent this wasn't some random one-off or a lone argument that got violent. If he did these things in the grip of an alcoholic blackout, he needs to get help, but he should also own up to what he did and not drag her through the mud in the media.

hellooo
I bet you didnt even notice me gone for a while. I was in Graz, Austria, on a conference (ecsite 2016 for science establishments & museums). So much flying, huh! Went to theater two days ago and searched my chair for a seat belt...

got so annoyed in Graz when our bunch just wanted to procrastinate in a windy street cafe for 4 hours and not explore the town at all. I always got up early to see more...

hah, I had the chance to watch Arirang TV at the hotel in the evenings! They show cool stuff and stories with great content & variety. About science, technology, environment, society, street culture, folklore, events... got me thinking how there are so many fields & places dramas don´t explore at all. With so many people growing tired of the same old same old, why can´t writers watch the news more... they could get ideas. Like retro-folklore-flea market kept by college kids, walkways, that turn into festival grounds every night, robotics laboratories & all kinds of scientific research... maybe it would take too much background research. It brings me to the point: do we alwasy see the same locations & professions in dramas because they come are "packaged deals" with an already existing background matrix ready-to-use? What can be done to widen the horizon of the writers? How can they get time to explore the world?

anyway, been watching Gong Shim - who is one spunky, outspoken and independent girl! Just awesome! Kind of reminds me of She Was Pretty hye-Jin, in finding herself and trying to decide what she wants from life.

a good point this drama makes is that your real family doesnt always act like a family is supposed to. don´t have to tell me about it... it is so sad that our whole threesome has the same issue - they are not appreciated as people, but as tools for someone elses´ fame, fortune, success and benchmark of social acceptance. Ugh that hits me in the gut, really. I am especially moved by the bromance, the real family connection inside the found one.

a bit confused about Mirror of the witch. it has become a bit loosely tied.

did you know there is a manga now on Okitegami Kyoko no Bibouroku? It is not as cute as the jdrama though.

glad you went out to see the place by yourself first. I remember I used to like strolling certain cities or towns( In Europe) such as Zurich. There is a feel of town( in particularly in the Old Town sector in Zurich) I sense while watching the people in morning. I am back to Japan to live so your description really made me nostalgic for Europe.

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June 17, 2016 at 7:42 AM

redfox -

Hope you had a wonderful visit to Austria! That's great that you had the opportunity to go.

Glad you're enjoying Gong Shim! It's truly an enjoyable drama.

All I can say is, I'm in love with Yoon Si Yoon, or as known in 2D1N, Dong Gu. He is excellent in his current drama MotW. And he is adorable in that variety show.

Also currently watching Dear My Friends. I am drained after each episode, but I keep coming back for more.

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June 17, 2016 at 7:01 AM

I can't believe it is already Friday!

The last 2 episodes of Lucky Romance made me fall for Ryu Junyeol even more...how could that even be possible at this point? Where can I find myself a Je Suho?

Finished Vampire Detective on an uneventful note. Ahhh what could have been. I'll miss Lee Joon and the rest of the cast though. They were really great together and it is even sadder that the show did not take advantage of that.

Plan to finish the last 3 episodes of Jackpot tomorrow. At this point I am dragging myself to the end for two reasons only: Yeo Jingoo and the possibility of watching In Juhwa suffer a painful (scratch that excruciating) death. Fire should be involve for good measure...

Finished Memory! That was such a charming watch. I really enjoyed the feel and tone of the drama. Loved Lee Junho's character and the actors (Lee Sungmin particularly) were just wonderful.

Started watching Tree with Deep Roots. How awesome is King Sejeong? I actually love him. Song Joongki was amazing in establishing the character. I sympathized with him immediately and I am rooting for him no matter what. I have yet to warm up to Dulbok (the lead). I can't connect to his anger issues.

Still watching Amachan. Up to episode 116 so only 40 episodes to go. I hate that Futo-something-sushi-roll-name producer. Still love Stove-san even if he's a little pathetic. Wish we could see him more often.

Looking forward to POLICE UNIT 38 (it's finally here! Seo Inguk Ma Dongseok!!) Doctors (It looks pretty but I am iffy about the story...) and Wanted (Looks promising if we can trust the teasers).

Have a great weekend!!

I had a question for you beanies.

June 17, 2016 at 8:02 AM

That sounds terrible…as they say, when it rains, it pours! I remember when I was in my old apartment, I had one month left on the lease and we had a beg bug outbreak in the whole building, everyone had to immediately pack everything so they could do their extermination, meanwhile I had major boards exams to study for and moving - all the while hoping I wasn't taking any bugs with me to the new place!!!

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Alessar

June 17, 2016 at 12:30 PM

I'd rather have my floors ripped up than deal with bedbugs!

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22 PeepsLeAwesomePotato

June 17, 2016 at 8:53 AM

Achievement unlocked this week - Audio manipulation and uploading and hosting and embedding in webpage! Yaaay!!

It took me a ridiculously long time but man, the things I learnt along the way. Although, if anyone knows of a good audio hosting site, please let me know.

This week drained me out, sort of, so much so that I had an inception sort of dream earlier. It was three dreams in one dream =_=lll

I don't really feel much for the dramas this week, except that HaeYoung's giddy exuberance made me laugh and giggle involuntarily and I like that Noodles is upping the ante with all the truth bombs being dropped.

Happy Friday! I am excited about new batch of dramas- after disappointing Jackpot and Vampire Detective.
and My apologies in advance- for extra posts this time which might cause you inconvenience (or stress doing mental proofreading).

It was busy week this week. There were three production press conferences - Police unit 38(Seo In-gook), Beautiful Mind(Jang Hyuk), and Doctors (Park Sin-hye). Which one are you most excited about? Here are some coverage of the press conference.

OCN's 'Con Police unit 38/tax squad 38' is to be aired today 17th.[Xsports News, Sports Seoul, The fact, OSEN]
Production team is hoping the show surpasses the ratings of 'Bad guys'(4.128%) which was the highest (OCN shows). Same writer(Han Jung-hoon) and filming director(Han Dong-hwa) are working on this drama. The title of drama is another word for 'Tax collection team Unit 38' which came from K-Constitution CHAPTER 38 which defines the duty of paying tax.

June 17, 2016 at 11:47 AM

Thank you for all of these :).

I'm most excited about Police Unit 38. I'm hoping for a lighter-hearted caper. Life's been stressful and I feel like I don't need more from my entertainment. And also, I like the male leads (idk much about the female but she looks like she'd be a good fit too). Here's hoping.

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24 gaeinalee

June 17, 2016 at 9:12 AM

Happy Friday, everyone~!

Idk whether to feel blessed or doomed. Starting today, Korean dramaverse owns my life and soul. I have to fit RL in between of:

- OHYA & Doctors [Mon-Tue]
- Wanted [Wed-Thurs]
- MoTW, FiP & Police Unit 38 [Fri-Sat]
- FiP [Sun]

Gotta ditch social life from today and welcome the sleepless nights and Panda Eyes... *contented sighs*

And happy bday to @ObsessedMuch~! I watched PU38 live just now with you in my mind, dear. SIG is truly a smooth operator there.. the sexy one. With or without jailbird uniform. ^^

PU38 casts are superb! Lots of senior and talented actors there. I enjoy watching it so far.

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ObsessedMuch

June 19, 2016 at 11:21 PM

Thanks a lot Gaeina Lee. You are amazing for remembering my birthday and for wishing me.

Social Life? I have forgotten that phrase since I found Kdramas! :D But really 2016 has been really good and I am finding it hard to find free time for myself!

SIG sure is smooth and sexy- with or without clothes. though surprisingly I prefer him in clothes cuz then I can admire his beautiful face :D

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25 fanwho

June 17, 2016 at 9:12 AM

Press Conference for 'Doctors'- Can Kim rae-won and Park Sin-hye's chemistry appeal to the viewers' heart? [OSEN, Xsports News]

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michykdrama

June 17, 2016 at 2:53 PM

Thanks @fan for these too!
I don't know How you have time but I'm really glad you translate and put these here!
Excited for this to see Jang Hyuk and hoping that there is chemistry with the leads (cuz that is what the show is basing on)
I think it will have tough competition with Doctors and prob not do well ratings wise but hopefully not too badly! I'll feel bad for Oppa if the show does badly...
Glad I can watch both and don't have the choose tho!

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June 17, 2016 at 9:20 AM

I loved last ep of Dear My Friends- it was best and I am waiting for Jung-ah (and Choong-nam)'s revenge in coming eps. YAY!
Actresses in 'Dear My Friends' gathered for an interview in April [Cosmopolitan].

This drama was possible thanks to the writer No Hee-kyung who said "It started with my thought how I can have all actors whom I like in one place." How writer No was able to get trust of actors and has special relationships with them? "Actually I don't think I know actors' strength when I first meet them. Only after I work on one project with them, I can see their weakness and strength. So I think I like them better when I do the second project rather than the first one. I am slow I guess. Usually other writers say they can tell the strength and weakness just by looking at actors' faces, but I can see them right only after a project ends." Her project contains philosophy about life and that could be the reason the people watch dramas like 'It is ok It is love', 'Padam padam', 'Goodbye Solo' again. "I think everything actually starts from philosophy, since philosophical reason ties to idea on values. Since I think we argue or love because of that value, I get to write those lines. But this drama is different. It has lines likes what we use in daily life- 'Eat', 'Wash' etc, so as I was doing it, I had fun."

This is first time for Kim Hae-ja to work with Writer No. "As you can see in my previous projects, this is the first time I play this kind of role, so I really tried to be friend (with the character). As time passes on filming, I felt that this was a good project."

Na Moon-hee worked with the writer before. "Writer No has knack to look into people's mind. When I first met her project, I was really impressed." (She was in 'The world within' in 2008) Go Do-shim who was in 'More beautiful than flower' in 2004 said, "I was happy that I work with people I have worked for a long time. Loved just the fact we gather like this."

Go Hyun-jung also had expectation. "Even during shooting I feel longing every moment because I wonder if I am ever be able to work again with these great sunbae(senior) actors. There are many times I get emotional while shooting. Just a minute ago, when I was standing by Joo Hyun sunsaeng-nim(teacher) for shooting, I was overwhelmed with many thoughts. Also I have mother-daughter relationship with Go Do-shim sunsaeng-nim, and there are many conversation I can relate to. The viewers also might think "Ah, I also talked to my mother that."

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June 17, 2016 at 9:21 AM

About close relationship among actresses, Yoon Yeo-jung said "I have known Park Won-sook for such a long time that there is nothing to feel insecure about each other. When I practice my line, I said "I can't get used to this line", and Won-sook said "Unni, do I work with you on the phone?" Starting from this kind of atmosphere, I think our teamwork will shine in the drama." Go Doo-shim agreed "There are worries since this is the first time that all these elder actors work in the same drama, but because of that, it is so much fun."
Joo Hyun also has idea that a good project can be produced when actors/actresses with much experiences work in harmony. "Actor's dream is playing great role like this. We also have that much expectation doing the project."

Even though there are variety of programs in many channels, most of stories are played centered around young generation. Go Hyung jung said "In Korea, when we get older, even a little bit, we get to do mother and father role. I loved theme in this show is real adults' story. Also once shooting started, they were real professionals and very busy taking care of each other- that sight was just beautiful."

About aging, Writer No said "What matters is the person's character or personality regardless of age, but we tend to divide them by age, and the prejudice goes deeper that way. I wanted to let those go and observe - watching with depth someone's mother or father for 24 hours. I imagined the emotions and excitement coming from that. Themselves as they are without covering up. Also I thought to portray the passion of elders whatever level(not much) they have. Spring to Summer was much better fit than Fall or winter to describe them.

Kim Hae-ja added, "I don't think it is important to have mindset or thought about how we should get old. Rather, as it flows, knowing better about yourself is more important." Park Won-sook said, "Youth is confusion. Now it is all settled but when I think back, it was confusion. If young people are too restrained, they are not young. I really feel respectful when I see a smart young person. Because I didn't have much idea about marriage or career that time. But I think I did good becoming an actress. Also because I had confusion during youth, going through various pain and suffering, I am who I am now." Go Do-shim agreed "Right, and I think grown up's duty is to stand in their place firmly." Sin Gu said "Corners are wearing out and disappear. That is years and life."
Bak Won-sook added, "You look older but your mind does not get older, it only matures. Every day seems more special and beautiful. So I love today."

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June 17, 2016 at 9:22 AM

At the same time they are amazed about current youth. Yoon Yeo-jung said, "These days circumstances got much better for actors, but competition is extremely tough since opportunity is limited. When I see a young person who can dance well, sing well, speak foreign language well, I am amazed. Still, even though all are doing well knowing what to do, it will be nice if they can live as the way they are." Na Moon-hee adds, "The capability of Youth and Old are different. There are things you can do only in that time period. I hope we can enjoy the way it is."
Their message - Enjoy now and live fully when you are young.

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mashimomo

June 17, 2016 at 12:16 PM

Fan - thank you so much for taking the time and translating the interview! I feel like Dear My Friends is overlooked by a lot of viewers due to the casting but definitely deserves as much attention as the other airing dramas. I agree with Na Moon-he that writer Noh Hee kyung has a talent for tapping into the actor's inner mind and comes across as very real. I also think that she creates a good atmosphere on her dramas, and noticed that most of the actors on her dramas have worked with her at least once. I especially love this cast because they feel so relatable and real. I also love the "special" cameos by Jo In Sung, Kwang Soo, Sung Dong-Il and Jang Hyun-Sung, who are normally headliners in a drama but adds to the story on this one.

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June 17, 2016 at 9:23 AM

More interviews with Yoon Yeo-jung (Choong-nam).
[OSEN] Set is located in the valley where even the bus can't reach and in a tiny temporarily made waiting room, Yoon Yeo-jung who had 50 year acting experience was reading the script.

She said she decided to take on the show even before reading the scenario because of the writer No hee-kyung. "I decided without reading the scenario. Writer No asked me "Do you want to do a piece?" I did only two projects with her. It was not like we did the project together often, but it might be fate since you can only do a project when it fits to your schedule."
Since she hadn't read the script before shooting start, she misunderstood about the character she was to play. "In the beginning I thought Oh Choong-nam was a woman who was just big-mouth, so I acted that way. But writer No monitored my acting and said "This is not it" and explained who was Choong-nam and how she had lived. As you may have seen in earlier episodes, she has never been married, went through touch time due to financial difficulties, and has intelligence complex, so she likes professors. Hmm. And you know writer No's character? There is no evil character. Choong-nam is not an evil character. So I came to understand her character I had to portray. We ended up re-shooting."
She said some trait of the character is similar to herself. "Me? I am Ggondae (nagging elderly). Ggondae. You can't hide your age. No matter how you live pretending you are young, there is something you can't avoid. Ggondae has meaning to insult older people, but I think it means sometimes grown-up too. Human relationship depends on the situation. When you meet me on my feel-good day, I am grown-up, and when you meet me when I don't feel good, I am Ggondae, I think."

Even though she has 50 years of acting experience, it is hard for her to get 'sunbae'(senior) treatment on the set, because Kim Young-ok(Nan-hee's mom), Na Moon-hee(Jung-ah) and Kim Hye-ja(Hee-ja) are her sunbae she calls Unni. "Actually even now when I come to set, I can't distinguish if I am shooting or not(real life). (Even during the interview, she called Joo Hyun 'Lee Sung-jae', his drama character.) I have been acting with Na Moon-hee and Hye-ja unni for 50 years. We know each other too well. Strength as well as weakness. It is kind of ambiguous if I say I am acting. I have less shooting then my sunbae-nim, but I am the only one with swollen lips and feeling like dying out of exhaustion. I am so embarrassed."

Once she goes home, she becomes a daughter in front of her own elderly mother who is over 90 years old. "Mom has 3 daughters. I think it is nice to have many girls. I am the oldest, and it is obviously different. I think I can understand why in old times, people wanted to inherit all to the eldest. Even though I talk rather blunt, still there is something different. I don't know if I can say 'Because we went through good and bad times together. The...

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June 17, 2016 at 9:24 AM

The relationship is not just mother and the child, but is closer to the 'same blood' who know about each other too well."

When she is done with this drama, she wants to take a break. "I'd like to take a rest after this shooting. This fall my movie "Deadly woman'(The Bacchus Lady) opens. I appear as Bacchus(energy drink in Korea. Funny- isn't it God of Wine?) grandma. You can safely think Yoon Yeo-jung's 70s is the period to put things in order. I am limiting my work little by little. I am not saying I won't do any acting. I want to do projects with directors and writers I like to work with. The thing I realized while living to 70's.. Life is something you never know. It doesn't go as you've planned, and not always fair. That is life. You only know when you get there and experience first.

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June 17, 2016 at 12:21 PM

Wow, thanks for these! I love Dear My Friends. We're so lucky there's a writer like No and these awesome veteran actors.

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June 17, 2016 at 9:25 AM

And I am consistently amazed at cinematography of 'Mirror of the Witch' (and how cute was Yoon Si-yoon in last episode). PD Jo Jung-hyung of 'Mirror of the Witch' explained about the show and its leads.[OSEN]

About Kim Sa-ron, he said "In the beginning, she did the acting fitting to her age, and the show explained that she fell into the icy lake so she does not get old in looks. Currently the character has 17 year old face but actually grown-up(20's). Kim seemed to have difficult time and felt lacking, but I think she is doing well." He says she is a born actress. "Kim prepares for her role in detail. She is a cheerful high school girl when not in shooting, but once camera rolls, she tries to do acting fitting to her character. That is amazing and makes me think that she is a born actress. In the beginning she seemed to be confused, but once she passed 17 year old role and only needs to play one character (Seori), she was doing well."

Some people limit their exposure to entertainment. it's a way of creating a clear line between personal life ad work.

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phoenix220

June 18, 2016 at 7:15 AM

fan, thank you for your translations! I really enjoyed reading the articles.

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June 17, 2016 at 11:34 AM

don't apologise, we all have different tastes. I'm often left scratching my heard over some people most of Korea seems to think is THE ultimate beauty, and there are people who don't think oppa is beautiful either. It takes all kinds!

I actually thought the thin wall from her end made sense, she was holding back because she knew she was dead and they couldn't have any kind of normal romantic relationship. So for me, the vibe worked. At least it wasn't completely absent/negative chemistry like Joseon Gunman's OTP.

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Kiara

June 17, 2016 at 2:00 PM

I have nothing to watch or look forward to till August (Scarlet Heart, Moonlight/Cloud and Age of Youth). Hopefully one of tvn's shows will surprise me.

There is not a whole lot of summer flicts in the cinema that I want to watch either beside Jason Bourne. Such a boring year lol.

I'm freaking annoyed at Marvel for what they are doing to Captain America (comic). Kind of ruined everything he stood for, at least to me.
I thought Chris Evan's comment "Hydra?!?!? #sayitaintso" was interesting. Sounds like he is with the fans here.

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Kiara

June 17, 2016 at 2:33 PM

*flicks*

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pogo

June 17, 2016 at 2:37 PM

yeah, none of the upcoming shows look like things I want to watch (W has an interesting premise but the teaser looks way too cheesy, I just can't with it). Bring It On Ghost is out because of the casting, squick AND dead eyes is too much for me to take even with Kim So-hyun.

I'm not a comic fan but knowing the history of Captain America, the making him a Nazi/Hydra thing seems doubly outrageous - can't blame the fans for being angry. And it certainly looks like Chris Evans is not into it either, though that tweet is probably the most he can say to express any dissatisfaction - he's the face of the franchise, he can't publicly criticise the comic's story decisions (though it's still in very poor taste that they chose to pull this just as Civil War was coming out).

And yeah, theatres are pretty empty for movies in English, but here we've just got a major new movie that's been fighting a pitched battle over censorship, which resulted in the would-be censors getting told by the Bombay High Court, Portia from Merchant of Venice-style, that their job was to certify movies, not censor them (and then the censors were petty and leaked a copy of the film ahead of its theatrical release).

So I shall be watching Udta Punjab this weekend, out of pure spite against those too-big-for-their-britches censors, and in the interest of free speech.

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Kiara

June 17, 2016 at 8:28 PM

Hope there is Eng subs for Udta Punjab. If you recommend it I will watch it.

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pogo

June 17, 2016 at 11:43 PM

Apparently it has good reviews but truthfully, I'm going to go for it even if it's terrible - it almost feels like a moral obligation to support it and stick one to the censor board.

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32 Riya

June 17, 2016 at 10:46 AM

Guys tell me your favourite actors in terms of acting. I am talking about those actors who display their emotions very passionately, and do not perform only "straight face acting". For me it's Ji Sung. What about you guys?

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redfox

June 17, 2016 at 11:02 AM

in terms of crossing the line between game and reality, Seo In Guk, Park Ki Woong, Jung Woong In, Kim Hae-Sook.
in terms of being genuine and natural, Gong Hyo-Jin, Kim Seul-Gi, Daniel Choi, Sung Dong-Il
In terms of being dramatic, nearly theatric - Shin Sung Rok (who also has perfect comedic timing though). And I think from women Park Joon-Geum, who doesn´t get appreciated enough cause she usually plays the evil chaebol mom but she does it so elaborately! and Hwang Jung-Eum is (over)dramatic sometimes

in terms of micro-expressions and fine detail, almost untangible changes in the eys - Park Bo Gum, and I honestly dont understand how such a young guy has the skill of a seasoned actor? From women, only Jang Nara can match the cuteness and innocence. Maybe also Lee Bo-Young

and Yoo Ah-In is a different class alltogether. He is unstoppably determined, like a person who wins in poker hundred times in a row without cheating. he knows where his going and works like a maniac, yet how come this human tank is such a dork in magazine photoshoots? from women, Jun Ji-Hyun is that level. She is the joker in the pack. Cannot beat her.

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June 17, 2016 at 11:08 AM

and I agree on Ji Sung. There is nothing this guy cannot do, charismatic, cute, absurd, hot, cold, ragged, misrable... he has a ton of emotions in his sleeve. that´s why I cannot even determine, what his "style" is. But he is always very good with props and "filling" the settings. Moving around and playing with everything at hand

June 17, 2016 at 1:18 PM

You are spot on Redfox!
Of the younger generation, the Kim triplets and Yeo Jin Goo might be the ones to keep an eye on.

Of the toddlers, Shin Rin-ah (the baby in the Marriage Contract) may take the cake!!!

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Kiara

June 17, 2016 at 2:28 PM

Dramas:
Lee Sang-min
Yeo Jin-goo
(When it comes to displaying emotions very passionately, these 2 are at the top. When they are happy I'm happy, when they cry I cry too).

June 17, 2016 at 11:10 AM

you can talk about anything drama-related, past present non existent, jdorama, chinese taiwanese etc or something with a very thin connection to dramas. like toddlers LOL

Hello,
Can anyone suggest good rural based dramas? My parents like shows with scenery and placed more in the country. They enjoyed Jeju Island Gatsby, Kimchi Family, and I forgot what else.

I think they like more mellow shows.

I'd appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks. :)

I just watched Mirror of The Witch episode 11 raw and all I could say is WHOAAA! So intense and SO damn good!!! This show will be the death of me. I am so hooked! It's so so unpredictable! ?

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Yuki

June 18, 2016 at 1:16 PM

Me too!! I watched holding my breath the whole time, it's that good. And where is the plot going? I wonder how things will evolve from this point, I can't wait till tomorrow to see what happens... :D

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36 PakalanaPikake

June 17, 2016 at 12:49 PM

In between the Mon.-Tues. one-two punches of OH HAE YOUNG AGAIN, I've watched FLOWER BOY RAMYUN SHOP (thanks for the tip, redfox!), which had some very funny scenes even if the ending kind of fizzled. Made sure to enjoy a couple of bowls of udon for total Sensurround enjoyment.

Because it was mentioned in one of the OHYA recaps, I watched the first episode of HEART TO HEART, and may get around to watching the rest of it soon. In addition to having a wacky shrink in the cast, Lee Jae-Yoon plays a sympathetic cop in this show, so it kind of makes up for the short shrift Tae-Jin has been getting in OHYA. The female lead is severely socially phobic, but gets out and about much more than the female lead in CASTAWAY ON THE MOON, which I watched yesterday to let my brain cool off from OHYA. Imagine my surprise when the peeping Tomasina with the telescope turns out to be played by Jung Ryeo-Won (alias Kim Sam Soon's nemesis).

If you think OHY's experiences are embarrassing, you should see what Jung Jae-Young's character goes through in CASTAWAY. I loved his performance in WELCOME TO DONGMAKGOL, so gave that a rewatch, too. One of my all-time faves, and Joe Hisiashi's OST is terrific.

I think it was in the OHYA episode in which Tae-Jin drops by DK's office that I spotted a movie poster for FATAL INTUITION displayed rather conspicuously in the hallway, so I watched it two days ago. Oh, Lordy... More premonitions -- that turn out differently from what was foreseen by the person cursed with visions of the deaths of other people. As one of the Beanies mentioned in an OHYA post last week, there are elements of Korean shamanism in the show, and that goes for FATAL INTUITION as well. Another Easter egg from Writer-nim?! This is getting ridiculous.

As for the film itself, the plot was deceptively straightforward. I got startled once or twice. The bad guy is always in plain sight, but the backstory with twists wasn't revealed until late in the movie. Joo Won was believable as hardworking and overly-protective oppa Some of the FATAL INTUITION OST consisted of particularly soothing piano music.

Now I'm wondering which other flicks on MovieSound's walls I should be watching... It was a fluke that I happened across the graphics for FATAL INTUITION while searching for an different show. Or was it? ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U61hIobKqHE

June 18, 2016 at 9:50 PM

there is also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF0r3uJZdY4
I find deep and low voices calming and balancing, while some high voices create an uneasy feeling.

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PakalanaPikake

June 19, 2016 at 12:51 PM

Sublime! One of my all-time favorite pieces from "Man of La Mancha." Bravo, Mr. Ots!

My folks took us kids to hear Jerome Hines of the Metropolitan Opera perform that role at the Paper Mill Playhouse in New Jersey at about the same time that Georg Ots made this film. He has a profoundly deep voice that I think you will enjoy hearing.

Thanks, redfox!

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38 d.

June 17, 2016 at 1:57 PM

Hello, first time commenting here~

Have been rewatching Shut Up Flower Boyband because I watched L and Kim Minseok on Celebrity Bromance and then spottedKim Minseok and Lee Hyunjae together on Radio Star. This is really my favorite all time drama and I am surprised to see that the screenwriter hasn't done any other works other than this (at least from what I see on her asianwiki page). I was excited to check out her other works but too bad there isn't any. There are many bad scriptwriters who keep getting their works accepted, but when I want to see more from the one whose work I liked, she only has one work :(

Beautiful Gongshim is still delightful and even if the story is predictable, I'm here for the characters. I feel like I can relate to Gongshim a lot, Dantae is awesome, and Junsu is like a puppy (I am going to be mad at the drama if they ruin Junsu's character).

Mirror of the Witch is still amazing and keeps me on my seat, the plot progress is pretty slow but somehow it still manages to keep me hooked. The newest episode is pretty awesome--want to talk about it but..spoilers.

Probably will start watching Police Unit 38 and Doctors...after exams end, sigh. For now I'll just keep watching Gongshim and MotW as a break from studying.

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PakalanaPikake

June 17, 2016 at 5:48 PM

Have been rewatching Shut Up Flower Boyband because I watched L and Kim Minseok on Celebrity Bromance and then spottedKim Minseok and Lee Hyunjae together on Radio Star. This is really my favorite all time drama and I am surprised to see that the screenwriter hasn’t done any other works other than this (at least from what I see on her asianwiki page).

Welcome aboard, deirdre...

I know what you mean. I'd love to see another show by screenwriter Hwang Jin-Young... but THE KING'S DAUGHTER, SU BAEK-HYANG is the only drama they've written, as far as AsianWiki is concerned.

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39 Nanda

June 17, 2016 at 2:21 PM

It's a sad week for me because my buddy Checker, the most cutest dog died on Wednesday.. thus I had no mood to watch dramas...I have so many to watch though.

I manage to see OHY and it was super cute! Though I find it kinda stupid on the kidnapping part.

Beautiful Gongshim is getting more interesting and I wish they speed up the romance part. I'm thinking Junsu will somehow date Gongshim? I hope I will be wrong and Ahn Dan Tae doesn't waste time.

I dropped Entertainer..so I'm wondering if I should marathon it or just watch the last 2 episode. I stop somewhere around episode 6 or 7.. I think with flashbacks.. I might still understand.

I hate Park YooChun for making my week worser. He was my bias..and the news keep on coming.

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Oshi

June 17, 2016 at 2:25 PM

My condolences about Checker. (hugs)

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PakalanaPikake

June 17, 2016 at 4:20 PM

Sorry to hear of the loss of your canine friend. Cherish the good times with your buddy.

Only Good Times - Keola & Kapono Beamer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvEDmPq4vTQ

The wait is finally coming to and end and November is almost here. I truely everything about mermaids as a mystic and on top of all that. Jun Ji Hyun will be the mermaid and on top of that LMH the chaser.

The water under filming and everything this could be historic and probably start a huge mermaid syndrome

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Heal

June 17, 2016 at 4:48 PM

Edit- I truely Love'

June 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM

I like Kang Dong Won as a film actor, but I knew almost nothing about his dramas. I still prefer his works in cinema even after this, tbh. To his defense, he was quite young back in the year 2003.

So, here some answers to your questions:

The doctor is Dae-hae's friend since high school. Her abusive step-father drove the girl away and that's how she ended up living in her friend's house as an adoptive sister.

She met her future husband when he was trying to approach Dae-hae; he mistook her for the future heiress to the family's fortune because of some (silly) misunderstanding. The man was KDW's cousin and one of the two possible suitors for DH according to the grandpa's will. He finally married the doctor after lots of fights between the couple and their families and one unexpected pregnancy.

The brother of the ordinary family was a doctor as well. By the end of the dram, he chose to volunteer for a mission in Africa (in a war zone, I think) with a network of doctors similar to "Médesins Du Monde". There's no single mother involved, just a young lady whose little sister used to have a grave disease. They both started living with his family since they had an evil stepmother back at home.

1% of Anything is a novel (according to Asianwiki) with less love stories and more family in it. It reminded me more of a 50-episode drama and certainly not a rom-com (like Family's Honor, a brilliant show of this particular genre). I loved the grandpa and I preferred the heroine when she did the "Cinderella Transformation" all by herself. She's a kind teacher with a pretty face and a hot body under all those conservative outfits. I guess the writer is a man, right?

I hope you found this a little bit helpful :-)

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ck1Oz

June 20, 2016 at 8:19 AM

Hah!!! I watched it twice and couldn't remember the details. So thanks heaps. In fact embarrassing to remember but can't even remember the suitor part. Only vaguely. I might now skip even watching it and save my time.
I actually should be studying harder for my Korean lessons and not procrastinate memorizing more words. So thank you for saving probably 30 over hrs of my life with this summary.

I love Family Honor and have watched it over 10 times. I like it a lot for the cultural aspects of the drama. Although these days it's tinged with disgust when I see PSH appear. My favourite is the older brother's romance. Just skipped fast forward it a few weeks ago.

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49 mutantreptile

June 20, 2016 at 9:23 AM

What's Shin Sung-rok doing these days?

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mary

June 20, 2016 at 9:48 AM

Getting married :D

Also Daddy Long Legs musical.

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