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Oh Hae-young Again: Episode 18 (Final)

Do-kyung has learned some very important lessons in his journey, the most important being that happiness is a decision you make, and that every choice has consequences. The choices aren’t necessarily right or wrong, but the decisions you make determine what kind of life you will live. You can choose fear, or you can choose love, but which will you regret as you lay dying?

 

 
EPISODE 18 RECAP

Do-kyung and Hae-young spend all of their time at Do-kyung’s place, basking in their love, and Hae-young narrates that now that she believes him, she feels at ease. Knowing that the world she sees isn’t all there is makes her feel part of something bigger, and it comforts her.

At one point they watch a television interview of Lee Byung-joon, the singer who was slated to die the same day as Do-kyung. He’s asked to say something to his fans, and he looks directly into the camera as he says, “I’m alive because of you. Thank you.”

They don’t leave Do-kyung’s house until June ends, and they go directly to Dr. Park’s office. He’s a little overwhelmed to meet the woman from Do-kyung’s visions, and he tells Hae-young that everything Do-kyung experienced was true.

They also visit the older doctor, who says that seeing the future is possible, but it doesn’t mean all visions come true. Do-kyung reports that he’s not having visions anymore, and Hae-young is hopeful that they can relax that he won’t die soon, but the doctor says that nothing is ever sure. Everyone dies eventually.

On their way out, Hae-young proposes that she and Do-kyung move in together. She hates knowing that he’s been living in fear, alone, and wants to be with him all the time. Do-kyung says that he was never scared, and promises that instead of moving in, he’ll propose to her.

Just as Hoon and the ducklings are finished moving their equipment to the new studio, they get the call that the old studio has been released back to them. They’re thrilled, but they whine when they realize they have to move all that heavy stuff again, ha. Hoon is so relieved he looks ready to cry.

As Do-kyung watches the red stickers being removed from his property, he gets a text from Tae-jin. It says that he’s done nothing wrong, and wishes him to live with ease and stay away from Chairman Jang.

Tae-jin also breaks ties with Jang, who calls after him that he’s not suited for business. Tae-jin sees Do-kyung’s mother forcing her way into the building, but he doesn’t interfere.

She goes up to Jang’s suite to yank on his hair for messing with her son, and she’s so terrifying that even Jang is a quivering lump in front of her. She says that his money is useless when he never even leaves the house, and entertains himself manipulating young people. She threatens him not to give her a reason to come back here again, and he meekly agrees.

The neighborhood ladies are happy to see Soo-kyung step off the bus these days, but their job has been usurped… by the baby’s father. They’re a little shy around each other, but Jin-sang walks Soo-kyung home, slowly, even carrying her purse for her. So cute.

Jin-sang is dying to put his arm around Soo-kyung, but he can’t bring himself to touch her, so he just ends up flailing his arm around uselessly. He finally takes her by the waist, and she nervously returns the gesture, but they both look painfully awkward.

Still, they’re reluctant to let go when they arrive home. Soo-kyung starts to head to her room when Jin-sang gets a burst of courage, and he grabs her hand, spins her around, and into his arms. Then he looks like he has no idea what to do with her, ha.

He ends up half-dumping her on her butt, and when she finally makes her way to her room, Jin-sang spends the evening wondering why this thing is so difficult. He storms over to Soo-kyung’s room, yells out a Goodnight!, and stomps back to his room to sulk.

Hae-young gets teary-eyed at dinner and tells her parents that she wants to marry Do-kyung. Mom just waves at her to go, now, and starts to clean up her dinner before she’s even finished. Hae-young packs her things, and poor Dad looks torn between his two girls.

Hae-young begs her parents that they have to tell Do-kyung she has their consent, or he’ll never agree to this. Mom finally relents and Hae-young jumps up before she can change her mind, and they all head over to Do-kyung’s place.

He’s currently listening while Jin-sang explains that he finally realized how he feels about Soo-kyung… he respects her. HAHA, he says this like it’s the most upsetting thing ever. The problem is that he respects her so much he feels awkward even touching her.

Do-kyung just starts berating himself for telling a woman who wants to live with him that he’ll propose instead. He didn’t really mean it — he wants to live with her, but he’s sliding back into his old ways, saying things he doesn’t mean. “How many times do you need to come back from death to come to your senses?!” He jumps in his car to go after Hae-young.

She and her parents are on the way to his place, Hae-young begging Mom to look happy about this. Mom just mutters that Hae-young is being ridiculous, making her cry again.

Do-kyung accidentally turns down a one-way street and finds himself in front of the family’s taxi, but luckily Dad recognizes him. They all step out of their cars, but before anyone can say anything, Do-kyung hits his knees in front of Hae-young’s parents and asks their consent to marry her. Whoa.

Dad gratefully thanks him for speaking up first, and says that they’ve already given consent. Mom tells them to go live together from now on, and not to wait too long to get married. She urges Do-kyung up, and gives him a hug. Awww, Mom.

As Do-kyung backs out and the taxi moves forward, Dad looks at Hae-young with so much love in his eyes, it’s lovely. Hae-young silently begs Mom to look at her, and she finally does just as they’re driving off.

Hae-young wastes no time attacking Do-kyung once they get home, and she jokes about how frustrated she’s been sleeping alone at her parents’ place every night. Ha, as they canoodle on the couch, we see that Jin-sang is still there, hiding and looking for a way out.

He’d been there waiting for Do-kyung to return, and had scrambled around as Do-kyung and Hae-young necked all over the house, barely avoiding being seen. He texts Do-kyung that he’s stuck behind the couch, but Do-kyung’s phone fell out of his pocket while Hae-young was ravishing him, and poor Jin-sang is stuck.

They’re interrupted when Soo-kyung knocks on the door, and Hae-young pretends to be just leaving — they’ll tell her about their new arrangement tomorrow. Soo-kyung is looking for Jin-sang, and points out that his shoes are here, which is when they realize that he heard and saw everything.

He sheepishly stands from behind the couch and slinks out with Soo-kyung. Before he goes he congratulates them, then says that starting tomorrow they’re going to… something. But it’s okay, because they have consent. HAHA.

Do-kyung warns him not to sneak over here again, but Jin-sang defends that he was here from the beginning! Um, that’s not better. He gets upset and says that he saw everything, everything, and starts to describe it all to Soo-kyung. OMG, please stop talking.

Soo-kyung takes Jin-sang out for a walk and advises him to reveal himself sooner next time. She uses him as a post to stretch on, which makes him way uncomfortable, especially when she slings a leg onto his shoulder.

An-na nervously waits for a regular customer to come into her coffee shop, and hey, it’s Oh Man-seok! An-na rattles off his complicated coffee order, and calls Hoon over with his script. Man-seok tosses the script on the table and tells Hoon to just describe it, and he’ll see that way if he’s good with words.

Hoon takes a deep nervous breath, and totally kills it. His eyes are fiery and he grows emotional as he tells Man-seok the story, and it works. Man-seok says that Hoon and his girlfriend seem full of energy, and agrees to star in the show. Hoon: “You’re so awesome.” Oh Man-seok: “I know.”

Hae-young calls Mom to ask if she’ll be there when Hae-young formally meets Do-kyung’s mother, but Mom says she’s thrown her away — why should she care? Hae-young asks why Mom can’t just be nice, and Mom is all When was I ever? Good point.

Mom may not be ready to come around, but Dad calls Do-kyung, who hilariously stands and bows even though he’s just on the phone. He has Do-kyung write down a list of ingredients which are good for your health, and hangs up. Hee.

Hee-ran meets with Hoon, and An-na takes over the conversation, making Hoon blush with her compliments. Once they’re alone Hoon announces that he has something really embarrassing to say… “I love you.” An-na returns the sentiment with a squeal, and Hoon dramatically leaps into her arms. So silly, these two.

Do-kyung and Hae-young officially announce their marriage plans to Soo-kyung and Jin-sang, not that it’s really a surprise. Jin-sang makes his own announcement, that he and Soo-kyung are dating, and Hae-young does a spit-take to learn that Soo-kyung is pregnant.

Soo-kyung is surprised that Hae-young has her parents’ permission to live with Do-kyung, though Hae-young points out that she and Jin-sang are living together too, technically. An-na and Hoon come sailing in to tell everyone they love each other, and An-na is mostly excited that Hoon can now fart openly in front of her, heh.

Jin-sang wonders how that’s a thing, and Soo-kyung narrows her eyes at him, telling him there are steps to follow. Jin-sang pouts that he and Soo-kyung are the only ones in the room who haven’t declared their love, but Soo-kyung tells him not to say it until he feels it.

Jin-sang deflects attention by throwing Do-kyung and Hae-young under the bus, announcing that they’re living together, which is their cue to go upstairs. They find a care package of food from Mom, with a note “To my future son-in-law.” Awww.

She apologizes for not eating with him more often so she’d know what he likes, but she remembers what he ate those two times they did have a meal. She made all of those side dishes for him, which is so sweet. The note goes on to say that she thinks people marry out of loyalty more than love, but she hopes that they stay together for a very long time.

Mom does show up for lunch with Do-kyung’s mother, who immediately tattles that they’re living together. Mom deadpans that she’s the one who dropped Hae-young off, and Do-kyung betrays a tiny smile. Do-kyung’s mom snarks that Mom is “so American-minded,” but Mom says that they won’t always feel as in love as they do now, and some people never get to feel that.

She looks at Do-kyung as she says that she doesn’t want them to be embarrassed, and just to be happy. Do-kyung’s mom gets nasty as she says that people won’t see it that way, especially considering how they met, and Do-kyung finally speaks up that he asked Hae-young to move in.

When his mother starts screeching about “taking the proper steps,” Do-kyung tells her that Soo-kyung is pregnant. That shuts her right up, and Hae-young and Mom both look like they’re trying not to laugh, ha.

As they leave, Mom says that Do-kyung’s mother isn’t that tough, and she should be easy to manage. Do-kyung’s mom asks if Soo-kyung really is pregnant, and who the father is, and her demeanor totally changes when she learns that Soo-kyung landed a lawyer. Ugh.

The delicate pregnant flower in question manages to clog the toilet so badly she’s ready to just sell the house, and Hoon calls Jin-sang to come fix it. He shows up with a plunger and an air of determination, assuring Soo-kyung that it’s okay, and he goes into battle for his lady. That’s love right there, folks.

The director of the movie Do-kyung’s been working on introduces him to some colleagues, praising his excellent work. Hae-young texts Do-kyung to bring home dinner, then remembers he has plans. Halfway through the meal he excuses himself, and brings Hae-young the pork belly she was craving.

His mom calls Soo-kyung to grouchily congratulate her on the baby, though she seems to genuinely be happy about it. She tells Soo-kyung not to worry about Jin-sang straying, since he’s gotten that all out of his system, though Soo-kyung complains that things aren’t romantic with him. She’s upset that they can’t even hold hands or say “I love you,” and wails that he even touched her poop. Awww.

Hoon is thrilled to have a new sister-in-law, and he asks Do-kyung why he left his meeting early tonight. He’d told Hae-young the meeting ended early, and she’s touched that he came home just for her.

The singer Lee Byung-joon has a small concert, and the older doctor comes by to check on him. Byung-joon asks if he’s trying to save him or the other guy, and the doctor says that it’s both.

Hae-young thinks about her last meeting with Tae-jin, who’d asked how he should explain all this when he eventually meets someone new. She’d said that there’s only one part he should leave out, and he apologizes to her. He thinks now that he was meant to say that mean thing to her, so that she could meet someone better for her. He sincerely wishes her happiness, and she tells him that he really was good to her.

When An-na learns that Jin-sang unclogged a toilet for Soo-kyung, she sighs that it means he’ll stick around for life. She wonders how he could do that when he hasn’t even said “I love you,” and Hoon quips that they’re going through the steps in reverse — baby, then dating.

This is the first An-na’s heard about a baby, which she thinks is terribly romantic. Now they can wait until the perfect time for the love confession. She says that they’ll know the love is sincere, and overhearing that, Soo-kyung starts to relax.

HAHAHA… turns out, Hoon and An-na staged that whole thing to help Soo-kyung feel better about the way things are going with Jin-sang. Not only that, but Jin-sang actually pays them for their little performance. An-na gives Hoon the eye, and says that it is pretty cool to do things in reverse. Hoon’s in trouble.

The two Hae-youngs finally go out for that drink, and our Hae-young asks the other if she hates her. She says that she does, ha, and our Hae-young retorts that she’s hated her since school. The other Hae-young says that our Hae-young is the winner, and our Hae-young thinks they shouldn’t decide winner or loser based on a guy. Good girl.

The other Hae-young says that she won’t be coming to the wedding, and she also plans to find another job. She sincerely wishes Do-kyung and Hae-young happiness, and as she leaves, our Hae-young calls out to her to be happy herself.

Jin-sang and Soo-kyung spend their evening crazy-dancing in the street, until the mood hits them and they lean in for a kiss. Jin-sang’s knee goes out, but he gets back up when Soo-kyung mocks his “rooftop party” booty dance, and he wonders what their baby will be like. Awesome, I’d say.

Hae-young knows that Do-kyung is planning a fancy proposal and tells him not to try too hard, though it’s obvious she’s looking forward to seeing what he’ll do. Do-kyung narrates that he used to live closed up, as if he was determined to be unhappy. Even Hae-young knew he wasn’t capable of feeling emotions, and he never even knew if he was happy or not.

He thinks that’s why he was shown his dying moment, so that he could have the chance to change and live differently. Even after being hurt herself, Hae-young wasn’t afraid to love him, and to ask him to love again. Her lack of fear made him want to be with her, and he wanted to be like her. Now it’s his turn to love her fearlessly.

As he waits outside the restaurant for Hae-young, a car chase comes screaming toward his location, and Do-kyung hears the horns honking as the cars grow closer. Flower petals start to fall around him, and he looks up to see a drama scene being filmed on a rooftop. Just below, a billboard announces that singer Lee Byung-joon has died. Oh no, no no no.

Do-kyung barely has time to register that this is the moment he’s been fearing, when a car comes around the corner and crashes straight into him. The car plows into the curb, and we see that it’s Chan-soo, Tae-jin’s ex-partner, who was driving. Do-kyung thinks that he let his guard down, and that the only difference between reality and his vision is that it’s daytime instead of night.

He thinks about Hae-young, but this time he can remember her happy face rather than a sad one. He wishes for her to hurry to him and hold his hand as he goes, understanding now why characters in movies always struggle to touch each other before they die. It’s not knowing where he’s going, and the fear of being alone. The touch of the one he loves will reassure him that he’s not alone as he dies.

As she dances to her lunch with Do-kyung, Hae-young sees the ambulance and notices the billboard announcing the singer’s death. She immediately realizes what this means and runs, calling silently to Do-kyung to wait, that she’s coming, that everything will be alright.

She reaches him just as he closes his eyes, and takes his hand, telling him over and over that it’s okay. Do-kyung’s last thought is that now, he’s relieved.

He’s rushed to the hospital and into surgery, where everyone they know comes to wait. Hae-young’s parents, Do-kyung’s family, even Hee-ran and the ducklings are there. The waiting room is deathly silent despite all the people, until Hae-young’s mom checks a calendar and says they should set the wedding date for September third.

Everyone looks uncomfortable, but then Do-kyung’s mom says calmly that it might still be hot, and suggests October. Jin-sang argues that he and Soo-kyung should marry in October since she’ll be showing soon, so they all agree on September third.

Do-kyung’s mom says to keep her wedding gifts simple, and Hae-young’s mom is all, What wedding gifts? She loses her temper when Do-kyung’s mom asks for a mink coat and an alligator purse, asking what the alligator and mink did to deserve it, heh. Suddenly everyone is yelling, everyone but Hae-young, who can’t decide if this is funny or crazy.

But looking back, she found that moment comforting, because they went past praying for Do-kyung’s life and just assumed he would be saved. She’s also sucked into that energy, and she thinks about the beautiful wedding dress she’ll wear when she marries Do-kyung.

In the corner of the waiting room, the television reports that singer Lee Byung-joon isn’t dead after all, and has regained consciousness.

Do-kyung and Hae-young’s wedding day is perfect, and the ceremony goes off without a hitch. They exchange rings and kiss on command, and walk down the aisle hand-in-hand under a shower of flower petals.

Do-kyung narrates that after you have a near-death experience, you live life differently. You know what’s important, and happiness is all that matters. “Right now, I’m as happy as a person can be.”

Hae-young adds that with Do-kyung, the time they spent crying and laughing, the bitter and sweet times, the times they fell and got back up, are the times she’ll look back on when she dies. “And I will say this… everything was perfect.”

COMMENTS

Hang in there for the wedding party dancing to the theme song, it’s adorable!

I really liked the ending, because I really had been lulled into a sense of complacency just like Do-kyung. I think that he wasn’t able to avoid his accident, not entirely, because as the good doctor said, you can’t change everything. But because he was able to change the date and circumstances, Do-kyung was able to alter events to just an accident instead of his death. And this time, if he had died, he would have died knowing he loved and was loved, and with Hae-young beside him. There’s not much more that you can hope for in life.

At first I felt like resolving the whole “will he die or won’t he” issue happened too soon, but now I appreciate where the show was going with that. Do-kyung didn’t just have to decide to live in the present for that small bit of time until he could change the circumstances of his death… he has to keep doing it, every day, as long as he lives. It took so little time for him to backslide and start taking the safe path again, telling Hae-young that he’d propose instead of living with her. I like that the drama explored how easy that could happen, and how Do-kyung had to remind himself not to live that way anymore. Habits of a lifetime don’t resolve so easily, and you have to consciously decide, day after day, to live differently. Because you never know when you’ll die, and as it turns out, his avoiding one accident didn’t necessarily mean he’ll live a long life. Now he knows that you never stop showing that love, and making the best choices you can.

So I’m still unclear whether Do-kyung was seeing the future, or seeing the past, in his visions — I liked the theory that he was looking back on life as he died, but now it seems more as if he was simply seeing possible future events and was able to change them. It makes more sense if he was seeing the future, because if he was seeing the past, he wouldn’t have been able to change anything. And I’ll admit I was a bit disappointed to find that both doctors exist, but it was a fun mind-bendy way to watch the show, unsure of whether they were real or simply figments he invented to help him cope.

I really adore how the show explored so many different kinds of love, and how they’re all valid and worthy. There was Do-kyung’s love for the first Hae-young, based on his pity for her background and desire to make up for the lack of love in her life. His love for our Hae-young was different, more passionate and tempestuous, but in the end it was the love that made him want to change and be a different person. Jin-sang and Soo-kyung’s love was more tentative and awkward, but Jin-sang really came through for her in the ways that mattered in the end. Hoon and An-na had the cutest love, silly and scatterbrained, but no less true than what Do-kyung and Hae-young share. We also got to see different kinds of parental love, with Hae-young’s parents especially, but even Do-kyung’s mother showed her love for her son by threatening the man who was endangering his well-being. At least in the end, she chose her child over herself and is making an effort to be a better mother, so there’s always hope.

Speaking of, I can’t help it — as prickly and harsh as she can be, I just loved Hae-young’s mom so much. Everything she does, even the mean things, are because she loves her daughter more than anything in this world, and wants her to be happy. She can’t always express her love in words, but she always comes around, and at the end when she packed all the foods she remembered Do-kyung eating I just couldn’t stand it. Even when she was against them, she knew this was the man for Hae-young, and made an effort. That’s real love, right there.

This really has been a show where there’s no clear-cut “good” or “bad” characters, and it’s one of the reasons I’ve enjoyed it so much. In real life, very few people are so clearly defined as those in dramas, and it makes these characters so much more interesting. The good people do bad things, and the bad people are sometimes good. Neither Do-kyung nor Tae-jin were Hae-young’s fated-to-be one and only love, and I have no doubt that if she’s married Tae-jin, she would have lived a happy life. It’s just the way things turned out, that she fell for Do-kyung while Tae-jin was gone (and in her defense, it’s not like she knew he would come back for her — she thought he broke up and moved away). It’s made the characters frustrating and sometimes hard to understand, but ultimately their faults and shortcomings are what have made me fall for them so hard. Because they’re not cookie-cutter characters that are easy to categorize, but they’re just like real people who make mistakes and sometimes do the wrong thing, even if they have the best of intentions. It’s been the wonderfully written, realistic characters that have made Oh Hae-young Again such an incredible journey.

 
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LolliPip, thanks for recapping OHYA... Your writing, along with the comments and insights of many dedicated Beanies, made for a dandy viewing experience! It was so much more fun with all the good company, especially while trying to grok the metaphysics and trickiness of Writer-nim. Kudos to the cast and crew, who were gung-ho til the final curtain... I'm so glad I came along for the ride.

Episode 18 gave a whole new dimension to bathroom humor...

Armed with a plumber's friend, JS strides into the bathroom at Chez Park to do battle. As he rolls up his sleeves, he gives himself a pep talk. He does the breath of fire, then raises the lid, hollers after taking a gander, and pulls off his tie.

His battle cries resounding, JS's plunger-fu works, and, flushed with triumph, he gives a victory shout.

Hoon, reading on his bed, turns to the camera with a look of utter glee on his face...

We have just witnessed Act 2 of A Love that Goes in Reverse Order. I prefer to think of it as Passionate Plunger. (Act 1 would have seen Hoon surreptitiously clogging the toilet before Noona used the facilities, and her subsequent disaster.)

I don't know which cracks me up more: JS's earlier epiphany that he respects SK rather like Admiral Yi Sun-Shin... or her abhorrence of dealing with clogged water closets. It seems so out of character -- except that she is a very complicated character.

While watching the rest of Hoon's script playing out, the various levels of love that An-Na spoke of reminded me of Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross's model of the Seven Stages of Grief in On Death and Dying. In a really warped way.

On the other hand, there is Mama Hwang's touching note to DK in the care package she dropped off:

"We need to eat together a few more times for me to know what side dishes you like, to know what I could make for you. But we've only eaten together twice, so I didn't know what you like. So I made some guesses... I think of marriage as something you do with loyalty rather than love. Marriage is what you do when you are prepared to cut off a finger when you break up. So please live together for a long time."

Cut to Mama snoozing in bed while Daddy Oh makes cooking notes from TV. Awwww.

I loved how she went over to the calendar and started figuring out the date for the wedding while waiting outside the operating room... acting on the assumption that Son-in-Law Park was going to make it. At times during the show her violence really put me off, but moments like this -- and her going toe to toe with Evil Mom at lunch -- made her one of the truly memorable characters I was pleased to meet in OHYA.

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This! :)

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OHYA also made me think of Elisabeth Kubler Ross. Yoda's words about fear and love have been echoed in various wisdom traditions, as well as by various authors, but I found an excerpt from a piece by Elisabeth Kubler Ross and David Kessler to be especially relevant:

Dying makes our worst fears come forward to be faced directly. It helps us see the different life that is possible, and in that vision, takes the rest of our fears away…Thus, one lesson becomes clear: we must transcend our fears while we can still do those things we dream of… To transcend fear though, we must move somewhere else emotionally; we must move into love.

It's true that there are only two primary emotions, love and fear… Every moment offers the choice to choose one or the other. And we must continually make these choices, especially in difficult circumstances when our commitment to love, instead of fear, is challenged. Having chosen love, doesn't mean you will never fear again. In fact it means that many of your fears will come up to finally be healed. This is an ongoing process. Remember that you will become fearful after you've chosen love, just as we become hungry after we eat. We must continually choose love in order to nourish our souls and drive away fear, just as we eat to nourish our bodies and drive away hunger.

--Elisabeth Kubler-Ross & David Kessler from "Life Lessons: Two Experts on Death and Dying Teach Us About the Mysteries of Life and Living"

One of the things I really appreciated about OHYA was that it didn't fast-track the character growth. Even in the final episode, after having learned the same lesson over and over in previous eps., DK said something like "How many times do I have to die before I learn to say what I really mean?". I think that it's important to remember that after we take a few steps forward, we often go backwards, or fall on our arses... we just need to keep on going and make a dance out of it.

And lol@ The Passionate Plunger scenario. I loved that the imperious Isadora is also someone who slinks away in shame because of a #2. Btw, I wasn't previously familiar with the saying "I think we're are all Bozos on this bus", but I love it because it's so liberating. Thanks for that, and for providing so many other references and connections.

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Aloha, risa...

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one reminded of Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross's work, which was truly pioneering. I read it so long ago that I've forgotten most of the details except for the stages of grief.Love is Letting Go of Fear by Gerald Jampolsky, MD instantly came to mind when Doc Park first spoke of love and fear, and when Dr. Yoda later elaborated on DK's visions.

Final Gifts: Understanding the Special Awareness, Needs, and Communications of the Dying by hospice nurses Maggie Callanan and Patricia Kelley is a gem that has helped me deal with the passing of several elders. But it's not just for the dying. A lot of it is applicable to anyone willing to pay attention to this taboo aspect of life.

In a metaphysical vein, I loved OHYA because it raised questions about cosmic connections between individuals. Several years ago I viewed one of Rudolf Steiner's "mystery dramas" which dealt with karmic relationships that extend across multiple incarnations. ("Mystery" in this case has nothing to do with whodunit, but with the Western mystery schools such as those in ancient Greece, Egypt, and Hibernia.) Fate, reincarnation, and karma are appealing themes I've enjoyed in such Korean dramas and films as ARANG, 49 DAYS, SNOW LOTUS, BUNGEE JUMPING OF THEIR OWN, and TRY TO REMEMBER.

Apropos of visions: It just hit me that in my own Irish-American family there have been several women with second sight. One was a seventh daughter...

Re: We're all Bozos on this bus

I don't know if you are familiar with Bozo the Clown. He was the host of a popular children's TV show in the US in the 1960s (and later). So the title of the Firesign Theater record means "I think we're all clowns on this bus." Firesign Theater did elaborate spoofs of radio plays in the 1960s through the early 1970s, including a couple with private investigator Nick Danger, Third Eye. The sound effects are great. YouTube has a bunch of them.

For a metaphysical twist, check out the 1970s radio serial "The Fourth Tower of Inverness." Plenty of cosmic debris and dandy sound effects. It's on YouTube.

Les Crane recorded Max Ehrmann's poem "Desiderata" in the early '70s. Very uplifting, and apropos to OHYA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bUTcy6w2Rw

If it's too cheerful, check out National Lampoon's "Deteriorata" -- also on YT.

It's funny how so many of us here drove ourselves around the bend trying to grok DK's visions. I'm heading over to catch up with MOTW as long as I'm on a roll. SCARLET HEART: RYO is on my list for live watching. I've enjoyed your comments and insights, too, and look forward to our paths crossing again. Happy trails! ;-)

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the doctor is the one who wrote the love letter to OHY...

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WHAT?!

*Frantically going back to find the name of the kid in that earlier episode*

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Yeah, I did a double take, too!

Ep. 15 circa 46:00 -- Lee Kang Yong

So neither Dr. Park nor Dr. Woo (aka Yoda) wrote the letter. That would have been too darned much...

I think the reason for Dr. Park's jitteriness upon meeting OHY in the flesh is probably akin to sighting the legendary Mob Dick, or a unicorn. ;-)

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In a drama that spanned the gamut of emotion from deepest grief to giddiest joy, the music in OHYA, and certain bits of dialog -- especially from a couple of letters -- hit me the hardest.

In episode 15, 6-year-old DK's recording of "Baek Il Mong" ("Daydream") and young SK's melancholy rendition of "Let's Go Live By the Lake" were two of the highlights for me. They get me where I live.

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Awesome drama - awesome ending! However, I still don't understand Do Kyung's connection with the Lee Byung Joon? Why does that connection exist - esp. with each other's deaths?? I don't believe that was ever clarifed.
Any of you guys know more??

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I believe (and Lollypip/another commenter already mentioned this) that there is no direct connection between Lee Byung Joon and Do Kyung - he's just one of the results/effect of the choices Do Kyung made to change his fate.

In Ep 17 when the Dr hypnotized Do Kyung, he mentioned that when he was dying in his vision he saw the billboard with the news that Lee Byung Joon also died that day. So the good doctor took it upon himself to help save the singer too. His life and Do Kyung's are not tied in a way that one will live only when the other lives.

As for this last ep when the vision finally came true and the billboard also mentioned that Lee Byung Joon was dead, it may have been just coincidence, or maybe it was also in the singer's fate to share a momentous/tragic moment of his life on the same day as Do Kyung's. I think that's the only link between them.

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+10000

This is exactly how I interpreted it.

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I think one of the reasons I really liked this show despite all of it's imperfections, was that the raw human moments often drew me in and spoke to different real life circumstances; not in the big dramatic moments but in the small moments of life.

OHY really acted as a catalyst, provoking some interesting often deep discussion on this board. Reading the recaps and comments beanies posted really elevated the drama watching experience for me. I really loved to read peoples insights into OHY, whether it be dissecting and analyzing the characters or relating stories from personal experiences.

I even really appreciate the monitoring of comments, because I feel like dramabeans is a classy place where people can disagree and state these cases in a respectful and well articulated way. Thanks to so many people on here who always elevated the conversations with their unique take on various aspects of this drama. That, I will truly miss.

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Hi i totally agree with your comments. Love the show, recaps and people's comments. And also got to know Eric and Shinhwa

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yes raw human moments!

i know osme people were saying how watching this drama and moments between the two leads, they felt like they were actually watching a real life couple's most personal moments and had to look away at times... i totally agree!

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i think this is one of the most satisfying endings i've ever had. i mean everything was wrapped up pretty nicely with no loose ends. its great how they tied up the whole "death thing" in the previous episode, which gave more time to concluding the story in the last episode (except with that brief car accident scare but i wasn't even worried/sad when watching that becuz i knew the writers could not be that heartless to actually take away do kyung from us!)

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thank you, thank you, thank you lollipop for doing such wonderful recaps on this show! i enjoyed everyone you did! didn't always agree with your theories but they were interesting & made me think about this drama on different levels.

i have to say that the ending of the show was the cutest, which reminded me of many black movies ending in a dance scene. (ok if someone else said this again my disclaimer, i didn't read all the previous comments, my apologizes.) movies like best man. they are fun & show how the cast enjoyed working together! however i missed having the other hae young & tae jin in that scene. i know that they wouldn't be at the wedding, but they had that instigator there dancing with do kyung's mother, so why not them. but that so minor.

this drama is my 'my name is kim sam soon' for this decade! i love hae young's character with all her flaws! she wears her heart on her sleeve. while do kyung kept everything close to his vest. he was like her father in some ways & there is that belief that we are attracted to men who resemble our fathers. but weren't they (hae young & do kyung) a balance for each other, & that they could learn from each other. we watch do kyung grow to be somewhat more expressive with his feelings.

i loved do kyung's family dynamics. still don't understand why Jin-sang, ends up at their home when he could have gone to his mother's. what was that relationship like?
it seems even when he was growing up he spent most of his time at do kyung's house.

speaking of which i liked the awkwardness of Soo-kyung and Jin-sang relationship. maybe a little to over the top at time, but that transition in relationship can be just that.
loved hae young's parents. actually loved all the supporting characters! i agree that there were truly no always good character & no always bad character. we are all flawed, weak, & selfish at different times. welcome to humanity!

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Yay! I really liked this show and they all did so well in their roles.

I admit there were times when I thought they would "jump the shark" but I am glad that did not happen.

One of my favorites and I'll be glad to recommend it.

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Finally the show wraps up. After CITT I totally lost interest in Kdramas. This was the show that brought me back so its kind of special.

I think till about episode 10, it was gold. I still re-watch them when bored. After that the writing felt ... messy. Like the tight story idea flew all over the place. And i blame the extension ... In fact if you cut out some parts (hoon/anna - wth was that ?), the show could be wrapped up perfectly in 14 episodes.

But one thing i loved about the show was how no one was outright evil. Nor was anyone mary-sue. Everyone had a moral compass, everyone made mistakes, everyone acted a little despicable, everyone loved, everyone hurt, everyone was the bigger person at some point, everyone had their own story.

i got introduced to fabulous bunch of actors most of whom i was unaware about. Plus all the crazy fun i had @ DB discussing everything (Omg! that kiss :P) ... all in all, a wonderful time

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anyone else upset that we didnt get a love scene from oh hae young and do kyung? :D

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I'm sure there are lot. But that kiss scene at the last episode is perfect and satisfied for me. It's very very sexy and yet cute and funny at the same time with Jinsang around ahahaha

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Yahhhhhh.......
Its amazing ending, with a great story till the ends.
Make my days every monday and tuesday ups and down.
Great story
Great plot
Great and a lots of best couple...
this pieces was gems...
who wouldn't repeating for numerous times over and over again each scene (especially those lots of kisses...gahhhh.... Eric and Hyun Jin daebakkkk..i hope there's something happened between them)
Love the family
Love the siblings
Love the friends they ever have.
Oh Hae Young parent was best parents ever!
I've dreamed for having parents like that, that always believed and always stood up for they precious daughters...well, we'll hate and love our children repeatedly for some reasons, but at last we will support them anyway.
This serial make me learn a lots of things... to be more human, to be more appreciate and keep love yourself and fight for our own happiness

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Lest we forget: Episode 10 cameos

Lee Pil-Mo's touching performance as young DK's gentle and loving dad. And Lee Yu-Ri as DK's mom, Heo Ji-Ya, who was a piece of work even back then.

Episode 7 cameo by Yeon Woo-jin as JS's lawyer buddy, Gong Ki Tae, out to seduce OHY away from DK.

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Still on cameos, can anyone confirm that the singer Lee Byung Joon is the actor Lee Byung Joon, Hyun Bin's frenemy in Secret Garden?

This guy : http://asianwiki.com/Lee_Byung-Joon

In ep 17 at about the 1:06 mark there was a scene with just the older doc and the singer. I thought the voice was familiar and on closer inspection of the video, I thought the actor could be him. With VERY different hair than he usually wears in other dramas. Can't confirm the credit though. :-D

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Yes, he is the actor that was in SG, and a ton of other dramas. (He wasn't the one really singing though-- that was a one-man-band called The Black Skirts).

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Yup. It seems, in this drama, he used his own name, but he's a famous singer, instead of an actor.

Haha. I was torn between Signal, OHYA, & Mirror of the Witch for the best OSTs of the year, but now I think OHYA has the edge for incorporating one of their songs so beautifully into the story. Pretty awesome.

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Ha ha..thought so. Quiet a nice surprise to see him play an understated melancholic character here, although as a cameo, how much of a char can he have? Very different than the usual comic relief I see him play, the inept competitor in SG or the ludicrous father in law in Wang's Family.

"One-man-band" - kind of paradoxical isn't it? But nice song though.

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I loved Lee Pil-mo's cameo! It gave me such a craving to see him play a single doting-dad who finds love.

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Man, I want to see the BTS for this week!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHPsMLug1jN/?tagged=leejaeyoon

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Dang... I'm not ready to say goodbye to OHYA yet...

To the strains of Haydn's "Emperor's Hymn" during her lunch meeting with Mama Hwang and the kids, Semi-Evil Mom (who's sort of redeemed herself after scaring the hell out of Chairman Jang by promising to self-immolate and take him with her) launches into her sanctimonious views on propriety. I loved how DK and Mama H. double-teamed her with Mama's statement that she dropped OHY off at his door, and his statement that he'd asked her to move in... When that didn't shut up his mother, it totally made my day when DK exercised his nuclear option and informed her that SK was pregnant. Priceless!

As for the scene with Jang, for a second there I thought he was secretly into S&M and tickled to find a dominatrix.

*hands Semi-Evil Mom a feather and black leather elbow-length gloves*

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Re. Jang: I totally had the same thought!! Hahah!

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I am so relieved to learn that I am not the only one who thought that!

*hands Semi-Evil Mom SK's baseball bat*

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Aaaand withdrawal syndrome is on. ?

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I know I'm late, but I wanted to say thanks to Lollypip for the awesome and thoughtful recaps!! I really loved this show and am going to miss it. I don't think the extension really did it any favors, although it was nice to see a couple after they get together for once. But overall it was a great combination of writing, acting, and directing that made it special for me. The smoking chemistry between the leads certainly didn't hurt.

At first I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't some big twist at the end to explain the visions, but now I'm happy that it was a simple message to live simply and for love. The first half was angst and suffering from the past, then angst for the present, and the latter 5-6 episodes about settling in for a future happy life. It's now one of my favorite dramas, with a high rewatch factor. Looking forward to the special episodes.

Also - a dance number is NEVER a bad way to end a show.

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Also – a dance number is NEVER a bad way to end a show.

The best dance finale I've seen in recent memory was in THE BLIND SWORDSMAN: ZATOICHI (Japanese film, 2003). Riverdance Edo channels Bill Bojangles Robinson -- cosmic!

Zatoichi Dance Festival Ending (Best Quality)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op0b7AyaQn0

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Thanks for recapping all 18 episodes of Oh Hae-Young Again (aka Another Miss Oh). Figured it'd be another memorable journey and roller coaster ride of emotion - afterall it's an Eric (aka Eric Moon/Moon Jung-Hyuk) drama - a one of a kind experience like in Que Sera Sera and Discovery of Love.

Aspects of the drama were very entertaining and gripping. However, I feel conflicted by the some of the contradictions and nuances played out in this drama.

Pros:
∙ We actually get to see the male lead work for a living as a sound engineer/editor in film/tv shows. A nice change - beyond the job & title of Chaebol, doctor, lawyer, "genius", king/prince, businessman, CEO, etc.
∙ Memorable OST's - "Like a Dream" by Ben)
∙ Styling and wardrobe choices worn by Park Soo-Kyung
∙ The way the drama ended.

Cons:
∙ Not cool justifying certain (red flag) behaviors just because the lead character is self-confident yet at times unsure of himself/herself and happens to be crazy passionate about a mate/have a love addiction for relationship.
∙ Giving a free pass to unhealthy behavior, glancing over a "passionate" fight scene between two people just because it ends with a kiss, obsession to the point of self-harm, workplace violence, immoderate drinking (high-functioning alcoholism?), vandalism, etc.

Random Musings:
1) Duk-Yi & Kyung-Soo - Homemaker Mama Oh? Retired Papa Oh? Always wondered how they supported themselves financially/what they did for a living?
2) Nice to see Duk-Yi/Mama Oh dressed up at the family/lunch meeting with Do-Kyung and his Mother, Ji-Ya.
3) Pretty Oh Hae-Young - challenging the assumptions of a 2nd lead; the paradox of being pretty and smart/top of the class.
4) Tae-Jin - flip side as others have remarked...if this was any other kdrama Tae-jin would be the 1st lead seeking revenge for losing his fiancée/girlfriend, job/status/financial hardship, and being wronged...falsely jailed.
5) Can't help but wonder and be curious about what other k-actresses would have stepped up to the plate and delivered in the role/portrayal of “dull” Hae Young.
6) Several of the other main/minor characters would have benefited a great deal from to pursuing and entering into counseling and therapy too.

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“Please live. We are grateful that you are alive.”

10 Quick Mantras that Will Motivate You When You Need it Most
http://www.marcandangel.com/2016/06/29/10-quick-mantras-that-will-motivate-you-when-you-need-it-most/

"It’s not what you say to everyone else that determines your life – it’s what you whisper to yourself that has the greatest power."

1) Learn to value yourself, which means: fight for your happiness and peace of mind.
2) “Do you want to be a prisoner of the past or a pioneer of the present and future?”
3) “The most satisfying time to take the next step is now!”
4) Even the tiniest daily ritual changes everything in the long run.
5) Transform your disappointment into forgiveness…and then determination.
6) Temporary pain is inevitable. Long-term suffering is optional.
7) Be present.
8) “It’s not personal (it’s really not), even though it feels personal.”
9) Your decisions in each and every moment determine the quality of life that you live. “I choose my response, and that changes everything.”
10) You must make a firm decision that you’re going to let go and move forward. “I don’t care how hard this is. I don’t care how disappointed I am. I’m not going to let this get the best of me. I’m moving on with my life.”

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"Truth be told, happiness is not the absence of problems, but the ability to deal with them...Always look at what you have, instead of what you have lost."

8 Things to Remember When Everything Goes Wrong
http://www.marcandangel.com/2014/01/08/8-things-to-remember-when-everything-goes-wrong/

1) Move on from what hurt you, but never forget what it taught you. Just because you’re struggling doesn’t mean you’re failing.
2) Everything in life is temporary. Every moment gives you a new beginning and a new ending.
3) If you believe in something, keep trying. Don’t let the shadows of the past darken the doorstep of your future.
4) Don’t allow your scars to hold you hostage. You can’t make the scars in your life disappear, but you can change the way you see them.
5) Every little struggle is a step forward...the struggle is not found on the path, it is the path.
6) Don’t ever let someone else’s bitterness change the person you are. Change because it makes you a better person and leads you to a brighter future.
7) What’s meant to be will eventually, BE.
8) Life’s best lessons are often learned at the worst times and from the worst mistakes. Sometimes you have to go through the worst, to arrive at your best. Keep going. Keep growing.

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My two bob's worth:
*I enjoyed visiting the Javabeans site to read LollyPip's great reviews; I loved every bit of OHYA.
*I liked reading comments by like-minded fans.
*I didn't mind when commenters chucked in a modicum of constructive criticism.
*However I am totally turned off by people who go on and on and on with negative comments, as this detracts from the established Javabeans tone of sharing enjoyment of dramas.
*OHYA can be enjoyed by parking our brains and immersing ourselves in the heart-full journey of the characters who are discovering how to choose happiness every day.

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Ahhhh! Finally its ended. I really wish I could slap Oh Hea Young. She such a brat. Keep demanding things to go in her way. Urghhh! Soo Kyung and Jin Sang are the only reason I keep watching this drama. At least them both is funny.

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I like this drama. It has indie vibe feeling that makes this drama unique and unforgettable. For me, this is well acted, well written and well directed. Kisses were real. Who cares about the show being unrealistic?! So long they delivers is enough for me, HIGHLY RECOMMEND. Not your typcal kdrama. Loved the cast. Loved the music. ?

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I have only watched the drama the night before yesterday, and binge watch all 18 episodes all day yesterday. At episode 5 I can't contain how much the show is captivating me, I could not believe I was only at episode 5 after all that has happened. At episode 9, I'm still in all time high. And it just keep going up until perhaps episode 16.

At the last 2 episodes, I just wished that Noona and Jin Sang did not push to being a couple. It would be like a love that's just hard to understand because it didn't happen, it's not romantic, and none at all platonic, given that they bear a child. But the fairy godmothers of happy endings had to ruin it and kicked everyone to fairy land that doesn't look all too convincing but very much stretched, considering each character.

And I might not get the popular opinion here but I wished Eric died, not because I think he deserves to. Dear, he was so pitiful, I could not blame him from ruining everyone's life for his misconcepted Oh Hae Young. But Eric should have died because that will make Park Do Young such a memory and unforgettable. The whole journey of having changed and going all out on love becomes less a cheesy storyline, but more of a you only live once feat.

I got to say, I liked how they bluntly started thinking that he would survive at all. But given a re-do I would so much wish he died. So that the whole day I spend lying on my bed binge watching this makes so much sense because its so tragic, and less disappointing that it was just another drama and I put my life on hold to watch all of it.

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Was away for 3 months from dramaland, so i have been marathoning on dramas.

After Squad 38, this is the drama i love the most. I do not know whether you guys have noticed, kdrama style has changed. before they made them unrealistic. Now its more real, something you can connect with. Shows great improvement.

I loved this drama. Some of us go through points in our lives were it's like a deja vu. I had that experience so many times for me to believe that it is real, why we go through it i do not no.

No. Its not as clear as DK's visions.

I love this drama, its more real, a bit of overacting, but real. Love it.

Kidos TVN after Cheese in The trap, didn't want to watch any makes from TVN but Signal and this drama helped.

Please recommend dramas to watch. I missed dramas that showed from May to August.

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Its only a fictional drama so it doesnt have to be realistic. It has to be fun & somewhat relatable at times. Yes eric char. was a little over robotic because it has to be that way. Imagine you have a useless gold digging mother, witness your father's death, your fiance didnt show up at the day of your wedding. So tell me how can a guy like that get through with it all. Answer, kill some emotion, never letting it affect him. About just oh hae young yes i admit its over the top! over-acting.i guess the writer/pd have this habit of making their female lead like that, maybe to give color/craziness to the series. But i absolutely like it. It fits her that way. Rather than a boring, depressive characterization of a bride who wrongfully cancelled her wedding just because her fiance dont like the way she eats. lies like that will make you crazy even more. The only thing i dont like about the show is the seeing the future thing. I believe it was unecessary cause the whole misunderstanding, mistaken idk identity stuff(same name) is cool.

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First time poster, Long time lurker of DramaBeans, I know I'm Super later in posting this but I only just finished this show and I have to say this is the first drama ever that's made me want to leave a comment.

Just want to thank lollypip for her wonderful recaps and say that I really appreciate what this show was trying to do, keeping to realistic, imperfect characters that you don't often see in other dramedy k-dramas. Most of the characters weren't outright villains nor heroes and that's what I loved about it.

This show had so much heart, and I loved the various juxtapositions in the story itself, as well as the life lessons they were trying to convey.

I do hope they'll explore a season 2 because I think there is a potential to flesh out more interesting stories, esp when they're great characters and the cast do have amazing chemistry with each other.

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Today is the day I finished marathoning through this show. I started watching 2 days ago and everything about this show is just so wonderful. You've made it into my all-time favorite list -ranking the first together with Misaeng and Ojakgyo Brothers. The reason? I just judged my favorite ones using one criterion - If my heart clenches when the leads are sad, that's one point. If my heart feels fulfilled when the leads, actors in the show are happy, that's the second point. If any drama can score those two scores, they enter my all-time favorite list ranking in the first place. And until now, there have been only 3 dramas that did that.

Thumbs up for you all cast and crew and the writer-nim, who together has done this WONDERFUL job. I loved Oh Hae-Young Again so much. And congratulations Seo Hyun-Jin for winning the best actress at the Baeksang Arts Award this year. You've done a great job. I'll continue cheering you on. But for now, I just can't think of you pairing with other men, you and Eric are just so perfect in this drama. It almost looks like you guys were a real couple! (Well I also know that Eric is getting married this July, so that won't be possible. Wow that shows how great these two actors are! Daebak!)

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I absolutely Kim Mi-Kyung (Hae Young's mom). She was the star of the show for me.

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This comment might be overdue but allow me to just say my piece :) I love Another Miss Oh! I love plot, the OST and the cast particularly the two leads. It's been a while since I watched a drama whose characters show great chemistry on screen and whose lines and dilemmas are so relatable. Seo Hyun Jin and Eric Mun obviously delivered! Definitely a must watch drama!

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