Goodbye Mr. Black: Episode 2
by girlfriday
This is definitely more of what I wanted from Goodbye Mr. Black—our hero on the run, pushed to the brink with nowhere to go and everyone closing in on him. He was less interesting as the perfect golden boy who had it all, but now that we’re starting to see a glimpse of what he’ll become, I like where we’re headed. Is it wrong that I’m rooting for our hero to lose everything and everyone he loves? I’m just excited for Dark Lee Jin-wook to enter the building is all.
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MC Mong ft. Lyn – “도망가자” (Let’s Run Away) [Download]
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EPISODE 2 RECAP
As our golden boy naval officer Ji-won arrives at his fancy hotel suite in Thailand, his thoughts wander to Kaya, the woman he met in the street. He’d asked his friend CEO Kim about her, and learned that she was an orphan found in a heap of trash after a tsunami flooded her town, and was left with no memory of who she was.
Ji-won gazes at his family photo and calls Dad, which is the scene that closed out the last episode. Dad’s just been shot and best friend Sun-jae is frozen with fear and indecision. Sun-jae trembles as he picks up the phone, but can’t manage to utter a sound, and when Ji-won senses that something is wrong and asks who this is, Sun-jae hangs up. Ack, that was the moment, wasn’t it?
Sun-jae sees a figure passing by and runs after the killer, pausing in front of a broken mirror that disfigures his reflection. (Yunno, in case we didn’t get it without the Symbolism!) He manages to fight the gunman and get the upper hand, only to have a gun turned on him by Teacher Baek, the mysterious puppetmaster who’s been angling to take over Sunwoo Group.
Teacher Baek says it looks like Sun-jae is done playing the surrogate son, and asks what he’s going to do about Chairman Cha because he’s still breathing. At the same time, Ji-won calls his little sister Ji-soo because Dad isn’t answering his phone. She’s alarmed because she’s out when she should be at home, so she lies and says that Dad is asleep.
Back at the scene of the murder, Teacher Baek points out that Sun-jae can’t exactly go back to Chairman Cha now, and though the Chairman might’ve thrown him away, Teacher Baek needs him. Teacher Baek dangles the carrot: “I’ll make you the owner of Sunwoo Group.”
Sun-jae doesn’t believe him, but Teacher Baek points out that Sun-jae would’ve killed Chairman Cha himself if Baek hadn’t pulled the trigger first. He asks if Ji-won will really take his word when he ended the call like that, and says that Sun-jae’s life has been pathetic thus far because he always made his own choices: “Don’t choose. Just trust me, and you’ll get everything you want.”
Tears fall from Sun-jae’s eyes as he thinks of running away from his father, disowning him, and the false step that led him here. He doesn’t say anything, but Teacher Baek can tell he’s got him and they lower their weapons. And then just to be sure, Baek’s henchman puts the final bullet in Chairman Cha, who dies immediately, and the family photo he’d taken out with his bloody hand flies away with the wind.
Ji-won calls his girlfriend Mari and asks her to check on Dad, because he can’t trust Little Sis and is pretty sure she’s off on a date with Sun-jae or something. They’re adorably sweet with each other and he brightly suggests they get married here on the beach in Thailand, remembering that they used to come here often when they were kids. She loves the idea, and he beams.
Sun-jae returns wearily to his hotel, where Ji-won rams him up against the wall in the hallway. He accuses Sun-jae of keeping something from him, and Sun-jae is so freaked out and on edge that he fights back (dropping a pen in the process), not catching that Ji-won is joking as usual.
Sun-jae says he had to come on a last-minute trip to run an errand for Chairman Cha, and doesn’t notice that there’s blood on his sleeve until Ji-won points it out. He says he had a bloody nose earlier and insists he’s too tired to have drinks, leaving Ji-won disappointed.
In his room, Sun-jae frantically washes the blood out of his shirt and then belatedly remembers the pen he’d had in his coat pocket. He panics when it’s not there, and scrambles down the hotel hallway where he discovers it on the ground. It’s a recorder, and it contains his entire conversation with Teacher Baek.
Sun-jae narrowly misses being discovered by Ji-won in the hallway, and returns to his room where he sits fully clothed in the shower, just sobbing.
The next morning, Ji-won tries calling Dad again and reluctantly heads into the training facility. Sun-jae waits until Ji-won has gone and he and Teacher Baek set up a trail of evidence to make it look like Chairman Cha was fighting a drug addiction, and that he died of an overdose-related heart attack.
Sun-jae plays the part of the grieving surrogate son in front of Chairman Cha’s secretary, and insists that the drug addiction be kept private within the family. Once he’s alone with the body, Sun-jae turns cold and tells Chairman Cha not to hate him too much: “You threw me away first.”
Back in Seoul, Sunwoo Group’s shady Director Seo calls Teacher Baek as soon as he hears the news of the chairman’s death. Teacher Baek just tells him to stand by and watch how Sun-jae handles things, but Director Seo books the first flight to Thailand instead.
Word finally reaches Ji-won at the training camp, and his father is already laid to rest in a coffin by the time he arrives. He opens the lid in disbelief and asks Dad to open his eyes for just a second, and finally Sun-jae has to pull him off and plead with Ji-won to get it together. He whispers that it wasn’t just a simple heart attack, and that drugs were involved.
Ji-won doesn’t believe a word of it, and is hellbent on reinvestigating everything himself to prove that this was a setup. Sun-jae holds him back repeatedly, insisting that they have to keep this quiet to preserve Chairman Cha’s honor. Ji-won refuses to accept that his father had a drug problem, until Sun-jae shows him that the same painkiller that his doctor prescribed for his leg pain was what he took in excessive quantities.
Suspicious Director Seo arrives and pushes for an autopsy to be done in Korea because there are rumors floating around about the chairman, which of course puts Sun-jae on edge. He defers to Ji-won to make the decision and holds his breath…
Ji-won looks determined to follow through on the autopsy and investigation, but once his little sister arrives with Mari and cries over Dad’s body, he decides that they won’t do an autopsy after all. Sun-jae finally lets out a breath of relief.
As Dad’s body is cremated, Ji-won takes out the compass he always carries, given to him by his father when he joined the navy. He clutches it in his hand, and salutes his father one last time.
Meanwhile, our minor-league con artist Kaya waits to pawn off more passports, and her thoughts drift to cheeky and thoughtful Ji-won. Her con artist friend/broker Sung-min doesn’t give her nearly enough payment for the passports, despite the fact that he’s got a safe chock full of money and gold. He must be sending money to his daughter back home, because he talks to a portrait of a little girl.
Kaya waits till Sung-min steps out of his house to dump a trashcan over his head for shortchanging her, and she warns that next time, it’ll be poop water.
Ji-won sits by his sister’s bedside with this faraway look in his eyes, and his girlfriend Mari worries when he steps out for some air. He promises to be back soon, and then heads out to the crime scene where his father’s body was discovered. He imagines Dad’s last moments as described by the falsified police report: Dad bought drugs from a local dealer, overdosed, and answered that last phone call from his son just before dying.
Ji-won turns around to go back when something catches his eye—a suspicious-looking man who’s clearly on his tail. Ji-won lures the spy into the marketplace and disappears, and then follows the guy sent to tail him, ha, all the way back to his compound. It’s a large warehouse filled with drugs and weapons, and Kaya’s broker Sung-min is there too, operating on one of the henchmen. But the person Ji-won recognizes is the boss wielding a gun, whose face he remembers from the lobby of Dad’s company.
Ji-won grabs Sung-min to ask who the boss is, but Sung-min takes out his scalpel and stabs Ji-won in the side. Ji-won knocks him out with one punch, but he makes such a ruckus when he goes down that everyone comes running out to see what happened.
While scrambling to hide out of sight, Ji-won sneaks inside the warehouse and discovers the bloody family photo that his father had held in his last moments. It’s proof that he was murdered here, and Ji-won fights off the henchmen so that he can escape with the evidence.
Sun-jae calls looking for him, and is terrified when Ji-won says he’s found proof that Dad was murdered. More henchmen come out in droves, so Ji-won makes a break for it. Cue: high-speed waterway chase, that ends with a shower of bullets as Ji-won dives into the water.
Sun-jae goes to see Teacher Baek at a boxing match and tells him that Ji-won is special forces; he’ll surely have survived. Teacher Baek is unruffled and points out the two boxers in the ring below, and how the one who fears his opponent more will lose in the end. He asks if Sun-jae is that afraid of Ji-won, and wonders if he’ll go so far as to kill him.
But Teacher Baek has a minion brought to him instead—the one who lost his gun to Ji-won during the chase and swam away. The man pleads for mercy, but Baek’s right-hand man shoots him in cold blood and Sun-jae flinches.
Meanwhile Ji-won swims to safety and limps down the street clutching his side, and stops at an outdoor café when he sees a news broadcast about the murder of a local man… where he’s the supposed killer. Agh, Teacher Baek dumped that body back in the river and handed over security footage that happened to capture Ji-won in the moment when he stole the gun, and it looks like Ji-won shot him point-blank.
We see Teacher Baek approving of the frame job, making sure to make Sun-jae complicit every step of the way. Now that Ji-won is a wanted fugitive, the hotel is crawling with cops, and Sun-jae stops Mari from running out to go looking for Ji-won. He agrees with her that Ji-won wouldn’t have killed anybody, but says the evidence against him is going to be difficult to fight.
Director Seo comments on how conveniently everything is falling into place, and asks Sun-jae if he’s not the person moving all the pieces around. Sun-jae feels a pang of guilt but shouts back defensively that Ji-won is his friend and Chairman Cha was like a father to him, so no further explanation is needed. Yeah, you’d think so.
Mari discovers an open window when she return to her room, and just as she hoped, Ji-won appears and wraps his arms around her from behind. He urges her not to turn around and look at him because he’s a mess, but she turns around anyway and clutches his face longingly.
He swears he didn’t do it, but she doesn’t need convincing. She just asks if they can go home now, and he says with a smile that they’ll have to postpone their wedding a little longer. He asks her to go back home and wait for him there, and promises to come for her. When someone arrives at the door, he disappears the second her back is turned.
Mari bursts into tears and tells Sun-jae that Ji-won was just here, so Sun-jae goes running and catches up to him, and Ji-won slams him into the wall again. Ji-won says the whole thing was a cover-up and he knows who’s behind it, making Sun-jae sweat.
He knows no names but remembers Teacher Baek and his henchman’s faces, and says he’s going to Korea to reopen this investigation and figure out who those men are. Ji-won refuses to involve Sun-jae because he doesn’t want his friend getting hurt (agh, just twist that knife, why don’t you).
Sun-jae knows he can’t convince him otherwise, and just tells Ji-won to go through China first, and he’ll figure out a way to get him back to Korea. You mean in a body bag, don’t you? For now he acts as a decoy and gives Ji-won the chance to escape.
Ji-won goes straight to Kaya and helps her get a wallet back from a pair of street thugs, and asks for her to get him a passport so he can leave the country. He doesn’t have a photo, so he tells her to find someone who looks like him, leaning in close so she can memorize his face. Like she hasn’t already. Kaya scoffs, “Where will I find a face like yours?” Right?
He gives her all the money he has and his watch too, and when she asks where she can find him, he says he’ll come to her: “Wherever you are, I’ll find you.”
Kaya goes to Sung-min with her wad of cash and looks through his stack of ID cards, frowning when she can’t find one with dark brows, a tall nose, and red lips. Sung-min says the wanted man on the front page has those features, and tells her to turn her attention to catching that guy, offering to split the massive cash reward.
He shows her the newspaper and her eyes widen to see Ji-won right there on the front page, and Sung-min tells her he’s a murder suspect who didn’t actually commit murder, not that he’s about to tell anyone he knows that.
Kaya goes to the beach and Ji-won is stalking her as promised, and when he comes out from behind a tree, she gives him his watch, his money, and his new ID card, wrapped in the newspaper with his face on the front page. She tells him she doesn’t ever want to see him again, and he takes the hint.
He puts the money and watch back in her hand before walking away, and Kaya stops to warn him that he sticks out like a sore thumb because of his height. (I love that she’s always complimenting him sideways: “Why are you so needlessly tall?”) She tells him to wait two nights because the market will open in a few days, and a flood of people will be crossing the border. She tells him not to get caught, and he tells her to run away if people are bothering her, and not to get hurt.
When the marketplace opens, Ji-won gets in line with the other merchants to cross the border. He does a crap job of answering questions though, because he doesn’t understand that they’re asking him to take off his hat. He’s seconds away from being reported when suddenly Kaya shows up by his side with her wig on, smoothly telling the officer that this is her husband and he has a head injury, pfft.
They barely make it through, and she tells him that they’re supposed to be married and he should hang his mouth to sell the brain deficiency, and he laughs. Ji-won doesn’t notice that the border is filling up with Teacher Baek’s henchmen, but thankfully Kaya spots the killer. The problem is, their acquaintance CEO Kim spots Ji-won first and calls out his name, blowing their cover.
Ji-won makes a run for it and CEO Kim does what he can to give him a head start and make up for his mistake, but Killer catches up to Ji-won as he’s zip-lining across the street and shoots him in the shoulder.
He lands in the street just as a truck is headed his way, and instead of getting out of the road, he lies perfectly still right in the path of the oncoming truck… and disappears right out from under it when it drives off. Oh, is he hanging on underneath the truck? Smooth getaway for a guy with a gunshot wound.
At the hotel, Sunwoo Group’s executives arrive in Thailand en masse to meet with Little Sister Ji-soo, who’s likely the only person with power of attorney over her father’s shares in the company right now. Eep, don’t sign anything!
Teacher Baek’s henchman goes to Sung-min with a photo of Ji-won and Kaya, asking if he knows about the stolen ID card used. But Sung-min lies that he knows nothing about it, keeping Kaya out of it for now.
Kaya returns to her little cottage and calls out hesitantly, “I’m here! I’m here…” She looks a little disappointed that Ji-won isn’t following her like he was before, and mutters out loud that it doesn’t matter whether he lives or dies.
Suddenly Ji-won’s shaky voice calls out, “I can’t die.” He’s sitting under her stairs, clutching his bleeding shoulder. He continues, “I have nowhere to go. I have no money. But let me sleep here for just one night.”
Before she can answer, he passes out.
COMMENTS
I love a good fugitive story, so I wouldn’t mind it if we spent a good chunk of the drama with Ji-won on the run. We’ll likely get more revenge than running when all is said and done, but there’s a nice arc here in watching the sweet naïve Ji-won learn how to survive among sharks. He’s physically capable, given his military training, but he’s also kind of hapless and making all sorts of mistakes, and I’d really enjoy watching the character develop street smarts and actually outwit the bad guys, rather than just get lucky and barely escape with his life. And I’m sure that a plucky streetwise girl would be happy to teach him the ropes.
I know the setup is clichéd, but I really like Ji-won and Kaya together. She kind of brings him to life, and they have a really great energy together that makes me forget sometimes that terrible things are happening to him. I suppose she could be written with more duality—say, to make us worried that she might’ve turned him over to the police for the reward money—but honestly I’m okay with one genuinely good person in the world helping Ji-won out, because he’s about to be betrayed by everyone and could use a friend. I already liked her, but she won me over when she showed up to rescue him at the border with her lame cover story and made him laugh. It’s also just obvious that he finds her really cute, which makes the romance aspect something I’m looking forward to during the episode, instead of something that feels shoehorned into the classic revenge narrative. Because you could get a lot more revenging done with a resourceful girl friday by your side. Just sayin’.
I’m glad things are moving quickly in terms of the betrayal, because we’re getting great character moments for both Sun-jae and Ji-won as they go further down diverging paths. I’m surprised at myself sometimes as I’m watching, because I have sympathy for Sun-jae and feel suspense whenever he might get caught in one of his lies. I know he’s doing terrible things, but I find myself rooting for him, at least in the moment, to steer clear of danger and not get caught by Ji-won. I’m sure that’s about to change the more he lets himself become the villain, but right now he’s still just reacting to everything out of cowardice and self-preservation, and I find his actions sad but relatable. I like that his motivation is made very clear from the start, and that we see him making all the wrong choices incrementally.
I do wish the writing could be a little sharper and stay ahead of the audience, because so far there’s nothing in the first two episodes that I didn’t already anticipate. (I mean, a bloody family photograph is your Big Evidence of foul play? Really? And what kind of cops are foiled by Photoshop?) But the big moments land for me because of the actors, which is really what I’m watching for. And hey, maybe I’ll even be rewarded with more action like today and an endearing romance on the side.
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Tags: Episode 2, featured, Goodbye Mr. Black, Kim Kang-woo, Lee Jin-wook, Moon Chae-won, Yoo In-young
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1 Fitri Iphiet
March 17, 2016 at 8:23 PM
after reading your comment about ep 2, i think i'll give this drama a try once again. ep 1 was so failed for me. i mean, i didnt even like it. preference.
from this 3 dramas airing on wed-thur, my fave is dots. haha... i know, this drama is kinda cheesy but... joongki is love. #bias
uhm... in this drama, i love the 2nd guy. i havent watched anything with him but seriously... he's such a badass... haha.
thank you for your recap ^^
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2 NamNavi
March 17, 2016 at 8:33 PM
I think I'm gonna drop this drama soon...
I love Moon Chae Won, I love Kim Kang Woo but I still got problem with Lee Jin Wook...
Well that just my personal problem with his acting.
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aX
March 18, 2016 at 8:48 PM
... just what I was afraid for.
let's hope it (ahem, he) gets better for MCW sake!!!!
i'll stay tuned simply for her and KKW.
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aX
March 18, 2016 at 8:48 PM
Just what I was afraid of*****
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Blue
March 23, 2016 at 3:34 AM
LJW is really growing on me, but he doesn't top KKW who is by far a superior actor. Which is probably why he was given a role with more emotions to showcase.
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3 foreveryoung
March 17, 2016 at 8:35 PM
I have watched the first two episodes and I think I will give it up. The writing and directing are both boring for me. I'm very sorry for MCW. She waited so long for this drama even when it moved its channel and the drama turns out to be not good.
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4 Sera The Ms Temper
March 17, 2016 at 8:48 PM
Waaa yet to watch but gonna watch soon during lunch break.
Lol, guys. Just drop it if it does not suit your taste. No one forcing you to watch anything you don't want.
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Diana
March 17, 2016 at 8:56 PM
+10000000
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foreveryoung
March 17, 2016 at 9:04 PM
Don't worry, sera, I'm dropping it now.
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michelle
March 17, 2016 at 9:11 PM
lmaoo +1
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5 rathermarriott
March 17, 2016 at 9:03 PM
The first two episodes failed for me. I should not have expected so much from this one. The premise was good. The casting was great. MCW seemed to know how to pick a project (not the case with LJW though).
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6 Mikey
March 17, 2016 at 9:09 PM
I can't with this struggle version of Jason Bourne. The plot is overdone, slow, and the action scenes are terrible and not enough of moon chae won's beautiful face. His flying kick towards the end was hilarious. Ji Won couldn't even fully extend his leg. I'll give it a few more eps but i've been disappointed so far.
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7 cupkate
March 17, 2016 at 9:16 PM
I love the chemistry between MCW and LJW. And yes I am excited for this drama though I wish the writing is also good. My wed-thur will be exciting again especially you guys are recapping this. Yay!
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8 Sob
March 17, 2016 at 9:17 PM
I'm leaving. I saw first episode and getting bored but still wanna try since it was one of my fav book. But second episode just gave me fixed decision to give up. Maybe I'll try when the show have more positive reviews in the future.
I like Moon Chae Won in Princess Man and love Kim Kang Woo. But not sure about the rest. The directing such a mess especially the actions one.
Thanks for the recaps.
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9 guiya
March 17, 2016 at 9:17 PM
This drama is for eople who likes deep plot. When I started to watch dramas, I liked cheesy dramas, but after nice guy, I changed my taste. Secret, Cruel city, I remember you and nine are my favorites from all I watched and there are a lot of it. I have waited for this drama and don't disappoint me.
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Bebot
March 18, 2016 at 1:09 AM
Then I recommend SIGNAL to you i'm sure it will be num 1 in your list :D
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msmaymay
March 18, 2016 at 12:02 PM
People highly recommend Signal so I gave it a try... My sister in law yelled at me because I stopped watching it at episode 8 or 10, don't remember....... I just couldn't continue because to me, personally, it wasn't going anywhere since I predicted the outcome of the last case of the show already. But it's good show just not that GREAT like how a lot of people are putting it. (again this is my opinion)
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ColourMeHaneul
March 18, 2016 at 1:41 AM
+10000 :)
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Fitri Iphiet
March 18, 2016 at 2:13 AM
i like deep plot and i watched all those dramas you mentioned. plus i watched signal. for your information, that drama was beyond amazing. nah, since i watched signal and just finished it last week, so... this drama totally failed to grab my attention. signal thrilled you since the 1st episode, while this one... uhm...
i'm a fan of thriller/deep plot drama... so i have high expectation for this one. but since i read the recap, i'll try to continue watching it. if ep 2 still fails, then i totally quit :D
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Sera The Ms Temper
March 18, 2016 at 3:05 AM
same with me, hehe.
I am thinking, maybe my taste becomes different due to age. in my younger days I never watched anything beside rom-com. And I am not that old, yet. kkk :p
Thanks to Secret, I started to love melo and then after watched Nine, I am more into thriller / dark stories.
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Adal
March 19, 2016 at 6:42 AM
Me too. I think my tastes changed as I got older. I used to be strictly a rom com girl, but now I prefer the darker dramas.
No matter what the genre, the drama has to be well made to capture and keep my attention. This one isn't well made at all.
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msmaymay
March 18, 2016 at 11:59 AM
WOW. I love all your favorites too and then you should know that... it takes more than 2 episodes to determine if these type of shows are good or not.
As for me, I'm not dropping it. I am waiting for at least 6 episodes to watch it though. I have a thing for 6 episodes for all dramas. EXCEPT DOTS.
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guiya
March 18, 2016 at 7:59 PM
I think We should have the same kdrama taste. I like this since begining, but i believe when start the revenge will be better. Yes, secret didn't have a good begining, i remember you started like a police comedy. Cruel city was intense since it started, nine since second episode.
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Blue
March 23, 2016 at 3:57 AM
You have a point! Did you watch Mask? It's the same writer who did Secret. His next series Deal comes out this year too.
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10 inthetrap
March 17, 2016 at 9:22 PM
I tried to finish the first two episodes but that's it, even though I love Kim Kang Woo and like Moon Chae Won.
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11 sweetsour
March 17, 2016 at 9:25 PM
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Ai Sky
March 18, 2016 at 1:23 AM
Yes, I think so.
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Kgrl
March 18, 2016 at 7:34 AM
Ep 2 was markedly better than ep 1 with the pacing and transitioning, also less chessy. There was also a deeper look into the characters. The cast has great chemistry despite shoddy directing and editing of the episodes.
The silver lining to this is that I'd rather be disappointed in the beginning and go uphill from there, then be totally in love and then frustratingly devastated by the end *cough*CITT*cough*
Hopefully, ep 3 will continue to solidify the cast and story.
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sweetsour
March 18, 2016 at 9:38 AM
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12 blo
March 17, 2016 at 9:48 PM
But I want this to be good. Can't lie though. I found part of the first episode to be cheesier than I would have liked for a drama like this. Maybe I need to change my approach and my expectations.
On the bright side, I read some knetz comments for ep 2 and a lot of it was optimistic. So can we hope that it will continue to get better? The premise is great and I LOVE Kim Kang-woo. I am definitely okay with a standard setup, as long as the rest of it stays ahead of us. Well, thank you for the recap.
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13 Eny
March 17, 2016 at 10:12 PM
Love this drama, yes this is the only drama that i watch right now, i love deep n touching drama, that's my taste, cheesy drama fun to watch but easily get boring with that n forgetable easily.hope this drama continue to be good
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14 Nathan
March 17, 2016 at 10:14 PM
Haven't watch this drama, but reading the comments on this site I can't help to feel ouchhh for MCW...
Is it that bad that people want to drop this drama? Maybe it just not suit the taste of international viewers because Korean viewers seems to like it...
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miracle
March 17, 2016 at 10:21 PM
Unfortunately and sadly, Korean viewers do not seem to like it. The rating was 3.9% for both episodes.
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Lala
March 17, 2016 at 10:29 PM
It's due to everyone watching DotS because it airs in the same time and they must choose. It's nothing to do with they don't like. If you have watched and following one drama till mid air, I doubt you'll just drop it for another newcomer.
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Young Jae
March 17, 2016 at 11:04 PM
Very much agree with Lala's comment. It's a very tough competition against DotS which has gain a strong base of viewers and fans by now. Too bad, GMB came too late to join the competition.
Anyway, I am only watching this now. Been waiting for this since I heard the news about it last year, so, good or bad ratings in S.Korea, I am definitely not giving it up.
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NamNavi
March 17, 2016 at 11:58 PM
Any drama that aired in this time slot gonna be buried by DOTS no matter how good the drama is.
Even Comeback Ahjussi buried by DOTS and they started at the same day.
Many of DOTS fans watch Comeback Ahjussi & Goodbye Mr.Black on rerun and they really like it, it's just they prefer to watch DOTS live.
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crazyahjummafan
March 18, 2016 at 12:21 AM
The ratings alone is not a very gauge of how good a drama is. The high ratings of Dots compared to the much lower ones for Come Back Ahjussi and Goodbye Mr Black doesn't mean that it is waaayyyy better or that no one is watching the other 2. Dots is a very good drama, but CBA and GMB are not too bad either. There are worse dramas with better ratings and better dramas with lower ratings than they should get. I feel that it's just the timing and the popularity of DoTS that unfortunately puts the other 2 down.
NamNavi
March 18, 2016 at 12:43 AM
@ailin Like I said no matter how good the drama is it's gonna be buried by DOTS. I bet if SFD change their time slot to Mon/Tue they gonna be buried by DOTS too.
So in this case we can't assume that Korean viewers don't like CBA & Mr.Black just because their ratings are low.
crazyahjummafan
March 18, 2016 at 6:55 AM
@ NamNavi
Not disagreeing with you. I think my comment was for an earlier one. Sorry!
Nathan
March 17, 2016 at 10:40 PM
The comments from Korean viewers for this drama are all positive. No complain about the storyline or directing or even Lee Jin Wook acting seems superb to them...
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Lanlan
March 17, 2016 at 11:02 PM
True. You cannot say it is loved by korean viewers if so few Koreans watch it.
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Eny
March 17, 2016 at 11:32 PM
I think rating counted on people who watch tv, n people who already watch descendant of the sun wouldn't easily change channel to new drama so the rating low but korean viewer could watch it online n i heard many positive comment on internet n it doesn't count on rating
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Blue
March 23, 2016 at 4:03 AM
I agree. If they hated it that would be vocal on the internet. I also think they watch it online or watch the reruns because of DOTS.
NamNavi
March 17, 2016 at 11:49 PM
Ratings not equal to like/dislike, this drama got positive comments from Korean viewers and they think that this is a good drama..
They like the acting and the directing unlike comments here that complain about LJW acting and also the slow and not smooth directing.
Here we can see somebody said that LJW action scenes seems funny but Korean viewers said that his action scenes are so cool and awesome.
T/N: Cheese got high ratings too but people are hating on it and the negative comments are everywhere.
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Fitri Iphiet
March 18, 2016 at 2:18 AM
yet, DOTS OSTs slaaaaaayy the chart. we can se ein gaon, melon etc, all the songs of DOTS are there. and most of them are in top 7. Soooo... kinda sad that Baek Ji Young and Ailee didn't make it to the top 10. just by this, we know how popular DOTS :D
while for cheese. it was purely because ep 13-16. People praised CITT since the very first episode. but then it turned bad since the PD seemed to be obsessed with 2nd lead. So... we know why.
but then again, it's preference. i think people who watch LIVE love DOTS more. cuz the rating tells everything :)
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NamNavi
March 18, 2016 at 2:35 AM
You're missing the main point here and your comments not related to the issue at all. Read the original post and understand it.
Copy & paste from original @Nathan post here:
"Haven’t watch this drama, but reading the comments on this site I can’t help to feel ouchhh for MCW…
Is it that bad that people want to drop this drama? Maybe it just not suit the taste of international viewers because Korean viewers seems to like it…"
Nathan
March 18, 2016 at 2:51 AM
I don't care about the ratings because I don't even live in Korea to watch it live. For me ratings is not equal to likability of the drama. I'm more into what people said about the drama itself...
Reading the comments in this site make me kinda think twice to watch it but reading the comments from Korean viewers make me kinda interested to watch it...
Well ratings is not that important to me, even if the ratings is low if I like the drama then I still going to watch it. Example: I Have A Lover
Example of high ratings drama that I dropped half-way: The Heirs, Yongpal, City Hunter
Fitri Iphiet
March 18, 2016 at 3:27 AM
i got your point. you meant, good or bad drama isn't based on the rating. and i respect one's preference. and agree with you guys to that point.
but nathan asked "Is it that bad that people want to drop this drama? Maybe it just not suit the taste of international viewers because Korean viewers seems to like it…”
i just want to tell, well, perhaps this drama isn't bad, but if korean viewers like this so the rating won't end up in 3.9%. and the ost didnt even make it to top 20. while, dots did well in every sector. that's it. if you think it's not related, it's okay. i just want to tell :D
i know it's about preference... but is it wrong to give an information like this???
so, my suggestion, since you like I have a lover which had very bad rating for weekend drama, probably this one suits your taste, nathan. and fyi : i dropped those dramas your dropped :)
Nathan
March 18, 2016 at 4:47 AM
Yui. I still think that ratings is not equal to likability.
Ratings, or song charts show that DOTS is on trend and high popularity. It is the same with other on trend drama..
Example : Producer and also Reply 1988.
Some drama didn't do well in terms of ratings just simply because of unfortunate time slot. And right now is Comeback Ahjussi & Goodbye Mr.Black facing this problem. They like the drama but they have to choose so they choose the one that they like more. That doesn't mean that they didn't like those two dramas because many DOTS fans said that they watch the rerun of those two dramas.
Well we all already know that DOTS is untouchable right now. And I don't even want to talk about it. Here I am to talk about this drama alone without comparing it to other drama in the same time slot.
Sky
March 18, 2016 at 1:33 AM
Can you give me some evidence showing at the Korean viewers like it? Thanks
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NamNavi
March 18, 2016 at 1:56 AM
Go to kkuljaem.blogspot to read the translation of Korean Viewers reaction to this and other dramas.
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Sera The Ms Temper
March 18, 2016 at 3:12 AM
Nathan, to satisfy yourself, give it a try next week. I mean, wait until epi 4 and give yourself a try. I think it is more fair to decide, because not everyone will get the feels by watching first two episodes only.
Do not always rely on ppl's reviews. I personally do not believe review from ppl unless I watch it by myself. Then i will decide to continue or not.
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Nathan
March 18, 2016 at 4:31 AM
I already comment on pervious episode that I maybe gonna watch it when few more episode coming out..
I'm here just to read the comments and what others think about it and if the comments are really bad maybe I shouldn't waste my time and data to download it.
I did the same to Pied Piper too.. Surprisingly that drama got bad reviews from Korean viewers but quite positive reviews from international viewers. Many Korean viewers said it's not as smooth and interesting as Signal so I decided to just not watching it.
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15 miracle
March 17, 2016 at 10:29 PM
This is another evidence that star power cannot make a drama successful without a good script and a good director.
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16 mindy
March 17, 2016 at 10:30 PM
It's in no way BAD so far, but it also isn't anything spectacular. I'm going to hang on, sometimes even some of my favorite dramas had just okay beginnings and ended up great (Healer comes to mind... Wasn't really sucked in til ep 4 or so).
When I choose to watch a currently airing drama I tend to stick to it, so unless this gets bad I probably won't drop. I'm okay with a just "okay" drama every once in a while as long as it keeps me entertained (which GMB has done so far).
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RoseTyler
March 18, 2016 at 6:20 AM
Totally agree! I had the exact same thoughts about this vs. Healer...it was just okay until episodes 3-4, then I fell in love. I'm fine with being a little entertained if it doesn't become spectacular.
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17 Lanlan
March 17, 2016 at 11:05 PM
It's not bad, it's better than Come back Mister but it isn't good either. Anyway just two episodes, may be is early to draw a conclusion so I will try to watch next week episode and decide from there
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TJ
March 18, 2016 at 5:13 AM
I only watched two episodes of Come Back Mister....huge disappointment for me because I like Rain. Just can't do the stupid plot or watch Kim Su ro do overact with that look in his eye like "I'm doing this for the money" don't hold it against me.
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18 Marina
March 17, 2016 at 11:38 PM
Is that me or Kaya looks more a good mannered Japanese lady tourist than the homeless hardened street girl? It's these little misses, and a ton of them, not the huge mistakes, that make some dramas irritating and unwatchable lately.
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ET
March 18, 2016 at 3:26 AM
Kaya does not look like a good mannered Japanese lady tourist but you are right that she doesn't look like a homeless hardened street girl.
They could have hit on a good idea for this character and her backstory but it appears that the writer isn't very detailed in the characterization and it's not helped by the PD. Besides her general appearance, I'd find it hard to believe Kaya's mannerisms are very Korean instead of Thai.
I am not sure if it's an issue of time, budget or lack of attention to details that is the reason for these misses. We can tell the good writers and PD from the lesser ones not just for the big things but the small ones too.
It would be a waste of a good source material and cast to be let down by poor writing and incompetent PD. It won't be the first and certainly not the last.
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crazyahjummafan
March 18, 2016 at 7:02 AM
Kaya's mannerisms are more Korean than Thai because she was found in Thailand (Phuket) at the age of 18. Even though she lost her memory, perhaps of how she landed in Thailand, she still remembers how to speak Korean and her 'Korean-ness' is still retained. It's not like she was raised in Thailand.
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Marina
March 18, 2016 at 10:37 PM
I know Kaya's back story. That's why the actress doesn't look anything close to a street girl fighting for garbage scraps with tough guys in the back alleys of Thailand. She looks like a tourist in that setting. Besides. Anyone on this blog have ever seen homeless girls or boys from Korea on the streets of their countries? No? I didn't think so either. Homeless or very poor Korean kids mostly exist in Korea. Not in America, India, Russia nor Thailand. Not sure about Japan or China. Maybe some hippies who like the outdoor living? I've seen a few guys that looked like young Vietnamese gang members in Cali some years ago, but that's about it. Seems like writers don't understand Korean global diaspora much.
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Marina
March 18, 2016 at 11:47 PM
Correcting myself on 'Korean diaspora' - I meant South Korean. Now. If Kaya's appearance on the streets of Thiland would have been introduced as earthly as "she escaped N. Korea like many other abandoned children do," it would be too unsexy in a drama. Nooo. A rich hero from a good family can't fall for a girl of unknown commie blood line. Can't have that. Bet a thousand bucks they will make her a lost heiress to some conglomerate fortune.
19 Ai Sky
March 18, 2016 at 1:35 AM
It's really breathtaking episode... I found my heart racing as the episode go on. This episode is much better that 1st ep.
I remember someone said that this drama is more like movie and I think it's true. In the last scene I found myself in deniable moment because it's just ended. even though the execution is not good enough like movie, I just feel like watching movie. Both actor did a great job and I love Khaya. Actually I want to watch DoTS after watching this one, but my heart still beating hard and fast... This is the first time since a long time... Thanks GMB... you gave me soul of Drama that I miss so much...
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mimi
March 18, 2016 at 5:44 AM
+1
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crazyahjummafan
March 18, 2016 at 7:03 AM
I'm enjoying the show too. Sometimes, if I don't nitpick, I end up enjoying a show more. This one's for entertainment. And I'm getting it!
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Gidget
March 18, 2016 at 5:53 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying that!
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moonglow
March 21, 2016 at 2:32 AM
+1 I totally agree with you. I am watching all 3 dramas at the moment and think that GMB is the best of them all. Come back ajushi gets more and more boring (i don't get the point of proving da hye's husband death as an accident) and DOTS is just oh... so.. very.. cheesy.. only watch this show to see joong-ki's face. So overall, i think GMB is better storywise. Well, this is just me.. ?
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20 genkibaka
March 18, 2016 at 2:40 AM
I knew the directing going to be bad because the director is Han Hee pd. And I knew I cant hope for revenge action packed drama because the writer usually writes melos. So I guess my expectations are different from others therefore I enjoy the drama more (?) .....
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21 Dongsaeng killer
March 18, 2016 at 3:58 AM
Thanks for the recap! Enjoying it so far
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22 TJ
March 18, 2016 at 5:09 AM
This was decidedly a much better episode. The plot is pretty standard and that's fine as long as the acting is good and the dialog. It doesn't look promising in either department that there won't be a lot of cringworthy moments. I see a lot of people don't like LJW but guys like him have their place in Kdrama. He's much better at brooding than trying to be comedic. I can say that about a lot of korean tv actors. I'll watch for another week or two. I've stuck with much worse in the past.
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Sarang
March 18, 2016 at 7:45 AM
Lee Jin Wook should avoid comedic scenes. I mean, he looks too-try- hard-mode on which makes uncomfortable to watch. But I think he match the stoic cold hearting kinda roles.
There aren't many versatile actors though. So, I think it doesn't really big matter.
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Eny
March 18, 2016 at 9:32 AM
I don't think so, which part of this drama he look trying hard, some comedic scene in the first episode seem natural to me
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23 mary
March 18, 2016 at 5:11 AM
Thanks for recapping this :')
Don't want to sound too shallow but I'm curious about this because of Rim, of course!
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gaeinalee
March 18, 2016 at 6:17 AM
Mary, it is what we expected from you.
Where were you that time when we launched a search hunt few weeks ago? Eloping with Rim? ^^
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Gidget
March 18, 2016 at 5:55 PM
Yup, we all ship Mary and Rim. ?
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24 Nick
March 18, 2016 at 5:45 AM
As for me..I enjoyed this drama very much...:)) Love love the casts n the plot is very exciting! Can't wait for for nx episode ...Wednesday comes quickly ^_*:))
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25 gaeinalee
March 18, 2016 at 6:09 AM
I watched DotS for the beauty.
CBM for the laugh.
GMB for the story... and LJW's beauty too, of course.
I simply enjoy these 3 for each individual charms. And if I could stand the pain of watching LJW's last drama that shouldn't be named, *cough* The Time The Drama Tortured Its Audience *cough* then I could finish this easily for sure. ^^
Thanks for the recap, GF~!
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26 Affie
March 18, 2016 at 6:24 AM
Omggggggghaaaaadddd! I'm so waiting for Dark Lee Jin Wook to enter the building toooooooooo!
I really love the show so far!
Good bye Mr Black, fighting!
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mimi
March 18, 2016 at 12:07 PM
+1
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27 Val3rian
March 18, 2016 at 8:10 AM
Why? Why do people hate this drama just because of LJW? I personally think this is a good drama, and with Moon Chae Won character added to the action, it balances the dark side of LJW.. I hope this drama will pick up its rating soon and hope that it won't be cut off early just because of the rating..
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Eny
March 18, 2016 at 9:40 AM
Many people hate ljw after he was choosen as the lead male of time we were not in love with ha ji won as the lead, many want their favorite actor with her, i notice this because i'm reading this site often before that drama not much bad comment about his casting news like in nine n the three musketeers but after that drama anouncement every article about ljw project full of hate comment, even if it casting news about another actor in his drama
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guiya
March 18, 2016 at 11:17 AM
I watched nine but his last drama was bad. He wasn't the one problem in this drama, she likes me neither. They were too old for this drama, I don't like when adults act like a children. It was the same with DOTS, She acted like a silly girl in the first episode when she was watching him in CCTV,This was the scene that made me don't want to watch anymore, I wanted to watch this for SJK.
The success of this drama is the cinematography and SJK, he is like flower boy but with good acting skills (SUPER COMBO), but for my taste wasn't enough.
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ColourMeHaneul
March 19, 2016 at 5:10 AM
+1000 @ guiya ❤️
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28 jazzmine
March 18, 2016 at 11:34 AM
My criteria for a good revenge drama is Bad guy with Kim Nam Gil... still one of the best dramas for me... anybody else??
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aX
March 18, 2016 at 8:52 PM
I would've been more sold with Kim Nam Gil and Kim Kang Woo... lol Just the thought of it!!!!
Hoping for the best for this drama though! :)
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Eny
March 19, 2016 at 5:07 AM
I like bad guy n green rose n so far like goodbye mr black too
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29 gudel
March 18, 2016 at 11:57 AM
amateurish cinematography
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30 pyromaniac
March 18, 2016 at 12:27 PM
I was wondering how they would turn a gunshot wound into a drug addiction, an overdose-related heart attack.
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31 miroufleur
March 18, 2016 at 1:14 PM
Watched both episodes and to my surprise i liked it.
OTP have a very nice chemistry, i'm looking forward to their romance.
OST 1 MV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwKhty4YFXc
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32 i'm taeken
March 18, 2016 at 3:47 PM
I guess I'm in the minority but I love this more than Dots, song joong ki and Kim ji won are my reasons for watching Dots
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Maria
March 18, 2016 at 6:59 PM
No you're not. I'm give up DotS in ep 2 and 've waited for this drama since SJK's handsomeness could not even make me stick to the story.
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guiya
March 18, 2016 at 8:13 PM
same with me. I left DOTS in the second episode, too cheesy, I didn't like her performance, he was great cause didn't have to act he is as he is, handsome and sexy, and good body now. It doesn't mean he isn't a good actor. He has good acting skills but the plot is ........
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ColourMeHaneul
March 19, 2016 at 5:16 AM
Yep DOTS is very swoony but after a while I was like "wait, what is the story line again?"
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33 lunatic4kd
March 18, 2016 at 6:44 PM
Wow _ I am SO STUNNED reading all the negative comments. I absolutely LOVE this. It reminds me somewhat of City Hunter with well-shot scenes in Thailand. The premise is well- constructed and it has a deep plot. I am loving Descendants of the Sun for the romance 100% but I really love this one for the plot. Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm in for the long haul...now searching probably for the rest of my life to find a drama so thrilling and perfect as Signal.
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34 JJComing4U
March 18, 2016 at 10:30 PM
This drama is amazing! At least it has some plot unlike DOTS. DOTS is just too cheesy. Although I am watching both atm. In terms of rating, it means nothing. Cruel City/Heartless city is the BEST drama I ever watched but I don't think it was as popular among other viewers. At least at that time. Maybe people were expecting cheesy, light, rom-com style action drama, but they are so overdone and I am glad this drama chose not to go that route. Overall, this is definitely the best drama that is airing right now.
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Emmygold
March 19, 2016 at 6:39 AM
this drama is okay though! but u cant say DOTS is cheesy with no plot... remember writers have their different writing styles and story line.
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35 Adal
March 19, 2016 at 6:34 AM
Funnily enough, what's off-putting about this drama, besides the choppiness of the directing and filming, is that they are using repetitive secondary characters! I've seen the faces of the actors who play Ji won's dad, loan shark bad guy and con man Ahjusshi in more dramas than I can count. And to be honest, I am having trouble remembering what drama I am watching anymore.
The casting director should have put in more effort in casting the secondary characters, imo. It seems the kdrama industry has a slew of secondary character actors which they just recycle according to the drama. The result is kdrama fatigue from watching the same actors star over and over again, sometimes in similar timed airing dramas! They shouldn't just pay attention to the lead actor and actress. Say what you will about DOTS, but one of its charm are the new faces of secondary character actors that spike up the interest and charm of the drama. It's refreshing.
I am not even a fan of Moon Chae won, to be honest, I acknowledged her acting skills but never really liked her. But I would be the first to admit that she's the one spot of fresh air in this otherwise stale drama. She's the only one who feels real. I'll keep watching the next few episodes for her sake. If I still don't like it, I intend to drop it.
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36 Emmygold
March 19, 2016 at 6:43 AM
thanks girlfriday for the recap! the show promises to be fun... moon chae won in another revenge drama sounds good, i love her role with song joong ki in nice guy..
@girlfriday why are you not recapping DOTS?
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37 AJ Tee
March 19, 2016 at 8:44 AM
Each on to his own, really. I don't watch DoTS but I'm loooooving GMB so far. I dropped Lee Jin Wook's last project TTWY, and I am initially wary of him taking the lead here in GMB opposite my beloved MCW, but I am totally on board at the moment.
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38 yingception
March 19, 2016 at 9:12 AM
Well I thought the first 2 episodes were promising enough. It's either that, or I'm missing out on how awesome Descendants of the Sun is because it seems to be the comparison.
Pretty leads, awesome location, stable acting, nuanced baddie. Goodbye seems to cut it for me for now! I'm actually looking forward to the next episode.
And... Question: Is Yoo In-Young NOT gonna be a villain in this drama? That feels strange, no? Haha, I really like her in villainous characters. The nice her comes off as slightly boring.
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39 suar
March 20, 2016 at 1:19 AM
Lee Jin Wook n Kim Kang Woo daebak!!!
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40 Bex
March 20, 2016 at 5:02 PM
I'm going to wait for this drama to stack up a bit(like I did with Secret) but I knew straight off the bat the LJW might not have been a good choice for this drama so I'm not surprised about some of the comments here. Still I need to get through Signal first before I start this so hopefully it'll get good.
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41 RLD
March 21, 2016 at 9:03 PM
I learned early in my discovery of KDramas that you have to give them three episodes to get the plot set up and the actors to find their groove. If I'm not intrigued by E3, it isn't going to happen for me. The people who are panning this out the gate, I feel, started out w/ reservations and are just being tough to please. This is Entertainment, not Tolstoy.
Me...so far, I'm happy as a clam. LJW is back to being an action guy w/a great haircut. This person has a good sense of humor, but, in a wry, intelligent way...not the average goofball, but, he can play the goofball moments. I know his character gets all dark and angry, but, I think Kaya will prevent him from going marose and keep the twinkle in his eyes from totally extinguishing. Good.
I, too, am watching DOTS. It is cheesy and the lead lady Dr. is driving me nuts w/ her wishy washy-ness, but, I'm not going to stop watching it cause it doesn't hit everything in my version of a "perfectly crafted" drama criteria. Despite their flaws, these are good, entertaining, shows.
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42 Blue
March 23, 2016 at 3:54 AM
I'm gonna go with the locals on this one, I do love the show and can't wait for episode 3.
But so far I'm not cheering for MCW and LJW as a couple in this story cause I am curious to see how LJW's character is gonna toss aside a love of 18 years that he promised to marry over this girl, unless his initial woman betrays him and goes with his best friend turned enemy. She seems to be totally forgotten since it's all about MCW.
The way he was flirting hard with MCW as a still taken soon-to-be-married man, even before this mess involving his father happened? I was like... dude don't you have a girl? It was like the production was rushing to make it happen, which made him look trifling. Yeah yeah it happens in real life, but it is shunned in real life.
Waiting for Song Jae-Rim's entrance. I've only seen him in Surplus Princess, so I don't know his acting well enough, so I'm patiently waiting.
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43 leila
April 4, 2016 at 8:05 PM
i'm confused by how they can pretend that the chairman died from drugs and a heart attack when there definitely would have been bullet holes in his body...?
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