Oh My Venus: Episode 15

113 January 6, 2016January 23, 2016

by LollyPip

There are quite a lot of loose ends for our hero to tie up, heading into our last week. Foremost is re-establishing a long-neglected relationship, but luckily for our guy, he’s got a lot of cute on his side to soften his ladylove’s heart. But it’s not just her he’s got to charm, and she’s got some charming of her own to worry about.

EPISODE 15 RECAP

Joo-eun agrees to stay with Young-ho on the night of his birthday party, Christmas Eve. He shows her that he kept the bandage she stuck on his hospital door, and thinks how sorry he is to have kept her waiting for him. She asks what his birthday wish was, but he says it wasn’t for him, but for her — he wished that she wouldn’t get sick.

She snuggles into him and he says he hopes they can spend a relaxed, warm night together. But Joo-eun has other ideas, and when Young-ho kisses her chastely on the forehead, she goes in as if for a real kiss, but lays her head on his chest instead.

Young-ho starts to look uncomfortable and asks if this isn’t a bit intense for a “warm” night, and Joo-eun jokes that she’s used to cuddling with You Bastard like this at night. Lucky sloth. She chastises Young-ho for coming back looking so sexy, rubbing his chest and tapping his chin, and Young-ho can’t take it anymore.

He takes back his “warm night” comment, and says almost desperately and in a strained voice, “Erotic night, okay??” Joo-eun gives him the okay, and that’s all it takes for him to flip her over, complaining that she seduced him first. Joo-eun just says they seduced each other, and pulls him down for kisses and other shenanigans.

They’re both reluctant to wake in the morning, and Joo-eun sleepily pokes Young-ho just to make sure last night wasn’t a dream. She makes him promise to see her all the time from now on, which he easily agrees to, and they cuddle in for more sleep.

Joo-eun wakes again later to find Young-ho awake and staring at her, and whines that she’s hungry. He jokes that she’d better get dressed if she wants to eat, otherwise it could be an erotic day as well. Sounds like an excellent plan to me, but Joo-eun gets dressed and goes down to breakfast.

She adds some seaweed soup to the meal as a surprise for his birthday, but he’s more worried about her thyroid with this kind of salty food. She tells him that as of a month ago, she’s off the medications, because she’s gotten to such a healthy place on her own — or well, with his help.

Young-ho sincerely congratulates her on getting healthier (and sexier), and Joo-eun reminds him that she can do anything she sets her mind to. She gives an overwrought fake speech about overcoming hypothyroidism even in the face of immense stress, and declares herself now to be Kim Young-ho’s Daegu Venus.

They spend a relaxing morning in, watching television and cuddling, until Young-ho gets a naughty glint in his eye and says he needs to check something. He sneaks up on Joo-eun until she’s laying on her back… and we cut to them doing planks in the workout room. HAHA, leave it to Young-ho to focus on exercise. There’s more than one way to exercise, you know!

Young-ho sticks to the conventional way, to Joo-eun’s annoyance. She spends the day distracted by watching him work out, even getting turned on when he gulps a drink — but when he finally props her on the table and goes in for the kill, her mother calls. HA, he actually apologizes under his breath to her mom and covers up all his exposed skin.

Mom’s in Seoul, at Joo-eun’s place, and she and Young-ho are both disappointed when she has to go. He drives her home and proposes that they make up for lost dating time, and she promises to be twice as happy. Young-ho starts to ask if he should met her mother, but Joo-eun says there’s time for that later. She goes in, and Young-ho has big puffy hearts in his eyes as he watches her go.

Joo-eun finds that her mother has brought about a year’s worth of food with her, and she passes off the fact that she’s still in last night’s party dress by saying she went to a wedding. Of course, this turns out to be a mistake, as it gives Mom an opening to berate her for not getting married herself. Mom wants to meet this guy she knows Joo-eun is dating, but Joo-eun puts her off until later.

Joo-eun goes to the office for a meeting, which turns out to be a sexual assault case. The accused wants to settle, as he works for the government, and Soo-jin initially appears to be amenable to the idea. But she gives Joo-eun a pointed look, and that’s Joo-eun’s cue to turn on a video in which the accused is shown assaulting the woman, right on camera. Boo-yah.

Young-ho’s grandmother apparently does care about Stepmom and Young-joon, at least a little, because she gets a report on what they’re doing these days. Her lackey also tells her about Joo-eun, her background and where she works.

Back at Joo-eun’s meeting, the accused goes white as a ghost while his lawyer tries to pretend the video isn’t of his client. Soo-jin says they also have an audio file that’s being analyzed to prove who the people in the film are, as well as other videos with other women. Since they were uploaded to the internet, they’re free game to be used in court. There will be no settlement.

After the meeting, Joo-eun notices Soo-jin’s ring, and also that Soo-jin doesn’t seem to feel well. Soo-jin deflectes and asks about Young-ho, seeming genuinely happy for Joo-eun. Joo-eun brings up a sensitive subject –- that Soo-jin seems too thin, and she asks her to eat more.

Again Soo-jin tries to smile it away, but Joo-eun warns her to go to the doctor, or she’ll drag her there herself. Soo-jin chirps a cheerful “Happy New Year,” but as soon as she’s out of Joo-eun’s sight, she wilts and holds her stomach as if it hurts.

She ignores a call from Woo-shik, so he texts that she’s not eating much lately, and invites her out to eat. In her car, Soo-jin downs more pills, clutching her stomach again. She calls what sounds like a doctor’s office, asking to be seen today.

Awww, Young-ho is so excited when Joo-eun calls him, and he tells her that he sent Ji-woong and Joon-sung to her house with a fruit basket to keep her mom company. Evidently, Ji-woong and Joo-eun’s mom are still great friends, which is adorable. Joo-eun arrives home to find the three playing a cutthroat game of Go-Stop, ha.

Soo-jin finally answers Woo-shik’s call and says that she was just in a meeting earlier, and he’s very concerned that she’s not eating like she claims. He asks her where she is and she lies that she’s at the office, not realizing that he’s watching her from a few parking spaces away.

He follows her into the hospital and to the gynecology department, where she’s apparently already had tests done and wants to know her results. Woo-shik smiles to himself, probably thinking she’s having his baby, but I fear it may be something far worse.

Joo-eun joins the Go-Stop game (I love how Ji-woong calls her mother “Ma’am’s Mommy”) and soon the doorbell rings. It’s Young-ho, carrying flowers and takeout and looking downright terrified. Joo-eun lets him in to meet Mom, and warns him not to laugh, because Mom’s wearing his clothes he left behind. But he puts her hand over his racing heart, declaring himself too preoccupied to laugh.

He’s killing me in his adorable tie/sweater/jacket set all scared to death, but he still jokes that it’s a good thing he changed or he’d be wearing the same outfit as Mom. PFFT. Joon-sung gets the hint and skedaddles Ji-woong out of there. It’s so cute how the boys both ask Mom to be nice to Young-ho.

By the “I’m being naughty right now” look in Mom’s eye, she’s having way too much fun sizing Young-ho up and letting him sweat, and she finally asks him if he plans to keep dating Joo-eun. When he stammers out a nervous yes, she’s all Okay then, and that’s that. You can practically see the color rush back to his face, ha.

Soo-jin is sitting up in bed that night, looking like the weight of the world is on her shoulders, when Woo-shik lets himself in. He brings porridge but she has no appetite, and goes for the presents he brought instead. She opens one and finds little baby-sized booties, and Woo-shik confesses that he saw her at the hospital.

Soo-jin tells him that she’s not pregnant — in fact, she never will be. Marriage and kids would only cut into her career, which she says is her priority, but it’s obvious she’s fighting back tears. Woo-shik notices that she’s also taken off her engagement ring, and now he grows nervous. He tries to get her to talk to him, but she just yells at him to leave. He does, and she starts to cry before he’s even left her apartment.

We see now that the doctor told Soo-jin that she has polycystic overy syndrome (basically, a hormone imbalance that interferes with reproduction) and that she’ll have difficulty trying to conceive a child. The doctor also asks about her antidepressant use, saying that they can affect things as well. Soo-jin says that she hasn’t taken them for a couple of months, only her anemia meds.

The doctor kindly tells her that it won’t be easy, but with time and treatment, she may someday have a child. But she can’t promise anything, and “have hope” isn’t something Soo-jin can do easily.

Late that night, Young-ho texts Joo-eun and says that she’s a lot like her mom. He warns her that his family won’t be so easy to deal with, but Joo-eun just fires back that she’s not that easy, either. But anything is better than not seeing him. He invites her to go on a date outside of Seoul tomorrow, and fake-cries that he can’t spend tonight with her too.

The next day they go to the temple where his mother’s memorial stands, and I love how Joo-eun gets just as nervous to meet his dead mother as he was to meet her alive one. Awww, as an avid knitter myself, it kills me that the scarf little Young-ho was making for his mother when she died is enshrined there, with the needles still in it.

Joo-eun introduces herself to Young-ho’s mother, and promises to be with him for the rest of his life. She asks for his mother’s guidance, and thanks her for giving birth to him. Now I’m crying.

Later Joo-eun contemplates her own scarf, now knowing the significance of it to Young-ho. She gets a text out of the blue from Young-ho’s grandmother, asking to meet her the next evening for dinner. She hides the message from Young-ho, instead showing him the little stone tower she made. He asks if a two-stone tower really counts as a tower, but she counters that they represent the two of them — his heart, and her heart.

They stroll through a pretty Christmas village at night, enjoying the beautiful festive lights, and take adorable selcas together. Joo-eun comments that all of the people on dates around them seem crazy in love, which Young-ho interprets to mean she’s crazy for him. He pushes her to find out just how crazy, admitting that he’s crazy, too.

He looks nervous when Joo-eun wants to leave a wish on a wall full of them, but then takes it super seriously and makes Joo-eun laugh. It takes him forever to decide what to wish for, and while he’s writing, Joo-eun remembers the one time she glimpsed his grandmother, and how severe she seemed.

When Young-ho finally emerges, Joo-eun says that her wish was pretty simple, and can be simply granted. As they walk, she waves her left hand around and comments that her hand is cold — she’s totally angling for a ring, hee. She even jokes that a bottle cap would do.

She backs off when Young-ho gives her a stern look, and he silently picks up the little ball of yarn that hangs off her scarf. He unties it and backs away, unraveling the ball, and (I knew it!) there’s a ring inside. She’s had it all along. ~sniffle~

Joo-eun looks at him with wide eyes, and reaches out to take the ring, but he lowers his end of the string so that it slides down to him. He holds it up and says that he wants to put the ring on her, so could she come a little closer? And then he holds his arms out for his hug, and Joo-eun runs into them.

Turning serious, Young-ho says, “Kang Joo-eun. I might make you a little sad. I might make it a little hard for you, too. But I’d like to spend the rest of my life with you.” Joo-eun nods her Yes, and Young-ho puts the ring on her finger. “Now Kang Joo-eun is mine.”

We see their wishes, and Joo-eun’s is to be with Young-ho. Young-ho’s wish is to be with “Oh My Venus, Kang Joo-eun.”

COMMENTS

Aww, that was the sweetest, simplest, most perfect proposal ever. I’ll admit, I guessed when he gave her the scarf and we saw that little ball, that there would be a ring inside. But the way Young-ho presented it to Joo-eun was so great. I love how squishy and adorable Young-ho-in-love is, now that there are (almost) no obstacles stopping him from being with Joo-eun. The important thing is that his internal obstacles for being with her are gone, and he’s finally just letting himself be in love. I think he smiled more in this episode than in the whole previous fourteen episodes put together, and it was glorious.

Now that the walls between them are down, we will most likely have to deal with the final thing that could keep Young-ho and Joo-eun apart — Grandma. I’m worried that Grandma will try her hardest to get Young-ho back in her clutches, both on a company and on a personal level, and I hope that he’s found the strength in himself in the past year to resist her this time. But a part of me is also really looking forward to Joo-eun’s inevitable showdown with Grandma, because I have no doubt that Joo-eun can handle her just fine.

I do have to say that I’m definitely with many of you guys, in that I was a bit disappointed when Joo-eun just accepted Young-ho back as if a whole year hadn’t gone by without a word from him. And worse, that he just ignored her texts and messages that entire time. I do get that he had to focus, and he knew he could do that best if they weren’t together. But did he have to totally freeze her out? There was no way he could have occasionally answered her texts, or called her, and given her some hope to keep waiting for him? Okay, so maybe he was scared he’d want to run back to her. But were a couple of visits totally out of the question? I don’t really get why they couldn’t have talked and visited during that year.

At the very least, when Young-ho came back, Joo-eun should have sat him down for a very serious talk, and told him that if they were going to pick up where they left off, some things would need to change. Things like not pushing each other away in times of need, and not ignoring each other. For a woman whose biggest beef with the school friend who stole her boyfriend was that she dropped her as a friend without a word way back in college, I expected there to be at least a short “don’t you ever do that again, jerkface” talk with Young-ho. He got off way too easily, and it was out of character for Joo-eun to just let that whole year slide without even mentioning it. I suppose it’s not too late, and I know I certainly wouldn’t be marrying him (I don’t care how “sexy” he is) without a discussion about partnership and what it means. Hopefully she’s still got a little come-to-Jesus planned for Young-ho before any wedding takes place.

On the non-romantic front, seeing Soo-jin and Joo-eun working together, finally, is so gratifying. I know a lot of viewers don’t find her redeemable, and I agree there are a lot of things she’s done that have been problematic. But she’s always seemed immediately regretful whenever things went too far and Joo-eun got hurt, and I do believe them when she and Woo-shik both say they never did anything about their attraction until Woo-shik and Joo-eun broke up. You can’t help your feelings. I think they found themselves attracted, but did the right thing and waited until Woo-shik’s attachement was severed before acting on it. And if Joo-eun forgives Soo-jin, then that’s all I need to forgive her. Seeing them acting as a team, when we know they’re both extremely bright, driven women who know how to Get Things Done, is fantastic.

So I do feel bad for Soo-jin, thinking that she can never give the man she loves any children. Even though she’s got her own brand of Noble Idiocy going on, and maybe should ask Woo-shik if he even wants kids before breaking off their engagement. But I can see how she’d overreact in the face of her sorrow. But I like them together, and I hope he can get her to listen (for once) and can convince her that he’s not here for her reproductive abilities, but because he loves her for who she is. I think more than anything, she needs to know that she’s worthy of love, even if she brings nothing but herself to the table.

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1 Schmazel

January 6, 2016 at 3:10 AM

Loved the proposal scene too!

By the way, does anyone know the brand/designer of Joo-eun's black purse? The one Young-ho gifted her?

I probably won't be able to afford it in my lifetime, but I'd still love to know. ?

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Schmazel

January 6, 2016 at 3:29 AM

Should've added a picture. Here it is:
http://s630.photobucket.com/user/dramabeans/media/drama/2015/OhMyVenus/Venus7/Venus7-00040.jpg.html

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meaniebomi

January 6, 2016 at 3:41 AM

I've been wondering about the bag too! would love to know the brand and model of the bag! ^_^

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nolifebfcoffee

January 6, 2016 at 5:00 AM

If I am not completely mistaken, that is a Balenciaga bag (Le Dix Soft Cartable)

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Schmazel

January 6, 2016 at 5:13 AM

Thank you!! Now let me go stare at the prettiness that is this bag...

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Shorebunny

January 7, 2016 at 10:38 AM

http://www.balenciaga.com/Item/Index?suggestion=true&sitecode=BALENCIAGA_US&cod10=45270673vl

the larger version is $2225

Marie Balangue

January 6, 2016 at 3:44 PM

You're amazing, Schmazel!

http://www.balenciaga.com/us/top-handle-bag_cod45211755qv.html

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Schmazel

January 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM

All credit to nolifebfcoffee for telling us! ☺️

merry

January 6, 2016 at 5:19 PM

I love this community! We are of varied interests. Thanks to #jusash for responding to my query on the dress from the last episode. Thanks lollypip for the recap.

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Shorebunny

January 7, 2016 at 10:36 AM

http://www.balenciaga.com/us/le-dix-soft-handbag_cod45268306cx.html

You can get it at Barney's for $1935

There's also a larger version as well.

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2 Miss

January 6, 2016 at 3:20 AM

This is my first time to comment
This movie is the definition of 'Awesome'

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iphiecham

January 6, 2016 at 3:25 AM

Totally... Couldn't agree any less

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Sup

January 6, 2016 at 1:00 PM

*** (Almost) Spoilers ***

Every other 14 episodes but the last two - they seemed rushed and desperate to fill the broadcasting time - as if they didn't have enough material, so the had long recaps and ”going back on the memory lane” minutes. I think they need to implement a new system - a drama finishes ether BEFORE New Year or long AFTER.

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crazyahjummafan

January 6, 2016 at 6:06 PM

I feel as if the writer had run out of ideas by ep 14. So last two episodes had quite a bit of fillers - long, unnecessary flashback scenes.

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3 iphiecham

January 6, 2016 at 3:24 AM

Wow...I don't want this drama to end......,thanks for the recap

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4 alua

January 6, 2016 at 3:33 AM

They have known each other for a couple of months, he disappears for a year with zero contact, then returns – no serious discussion of what happened – and they have an erotic night, followed by a proposal?

I cannot cheer for this couple. The show did so well in giving them an adult relationship early on, but this... is a teenage fantasy in a Disney princess story.

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Beez

January 6, 2016 at 4:28 AM

Exactly!

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Lovie

January 6, 2016 at 5:30 AM

It's quite the opposite. Relationship requires trust and respect to make it work and last long. These two ingredients differenciate relationship between those that last long and those which are broken. Sometimes in an real life adult relationship less talk is more effective and avoiding unnecessary melodramas is better because it may only cause misunderstanding and conflict. In real life, relationship is more about giving than receiving.

JE is a very mature person. She does not need reassurance in her relationship with JH. Rather, she respect JH decision and gave the space he needed. Clearly, JH was battling against himself and that is quite difficult to deal with. JH's way of coping is by handling on his own. JE very well knows this kind of character of JH. That's why in the hospital, JE didn't go inside the room but rather say she would wait for him, healthier and sexier.

I don't mean to contradict your opinion but respect it as that is how you see it in your perspective.

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TG

January 6, 2016 at 5:53 AM

I agree with you Alua. This relationship is a bit of a farce. He didn't see or talk to her for a year. Apparently he didn't seem to communicate with much of anyone for that whole time, or go to work, or do anything, which is not healthy. What if they had kids and something like this happened? Would he have disappeared on them too? What if he was paralyzed? You can't cure everything through force of will and therapy - if he couldn't have walked would that just have been the end of the relationship? I agree that this has turned into a teenage fantasy. Not that I mind too much - it's not bad - it's just fluff.

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BC

January 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM

I don't know guys, why you see it so black and white. I'm the same, when there is something I need seriously to deal with I don't have time to waste on the lovey dovey stuff and I don't appreciate any calling of my beloved one. He knows that I'm strange in this, he's then more upset than me and if I'm in pain, it's hard to talk anyway. That's why I fully understood the decision made by Young Ho, that he needed to focus on his recovery and he told it by himself, if he would listen to her voice, or read her messages or see her, he would break and would run to her and she told him, she will wait until he'll come back.
I thought they knew themself for more than few months, because to loose weight with exercises and diet (we're talking about 25 kg to loose) it takes more than few weeks of time (I lost when I was in the US 15kg in a month and half, but I had no car, sleeping 3 hours per day and working hard in two jobs). That's why I'm for the @Lovie trustworthy, healthy and realistic relationship. I'm happy with it and it makes sense. :-)

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NoIdeaName

January 6, 2016 at 8:29 AM

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Rachel

January 6, 2016 at 7:03 AM

Is any drama supposed to be realistic? This drama gives you exactly what you want in terms of chemistry between the two leads.

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Dody

January 6, 2016 at 7:35 PM

exactly!! seriously logic and realistic just don't mix with korean dramaland so like this i can enjoy a drama with such great chemistry .. i'm happy with what we got, and sad that it ended :'(, i know it doesn't have the greatest plot and has lots of flaws "the flashbacks that was really unnecessary" but the cast is just so lovable, and SJS/SMA couple is too much for my shipping heart damn it!!

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Marie Balangue

January 6, 2016 at 4:33 PM

Agree with Lovie.

Love waits. What's a year?
Maybe culture has something to do with it. Most Kdramas show love stories that start when the main characters are kids, separate, and come back to each other many years later.

Maybe spiritual beliefs have to do something with the waiting -- think about karmic cycles and meditating on feelings that may be fleeting. Time will be the test of the impermanence.

As for the trust and respect -- there is trust that the love will not change with time and absence. Respect - of each other's space (in this case, Young Ho needed the space more). Focusing on something difficult to achieve is easier without the emotional component.

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stuffed

January 6, 2016 at 5:21 PM

Agree! People forget that this is an individual's choice. The way one person deals with a problem is not the same as how another would. It's Joo Eun choice to forgive and forget, no matter how out-of-character that is. I guess, her estranged relationship with Soo Jin may have affected her. So she chose not to be angry and have another misunderstanding in her way.

Of course, from the this drama's point-of-view, it could be just another plot point to make things appear more dramatic - possibly to increase ratings. But the pay-off was pretty good with them getting back together hot and heavy. Or at least that satisfies the shallow me. Cheers!

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LookieLooWho

January 6, 2016 at 6:00 PM

@alua,

THANK YOU!! I feel like I watched a totally different drama than everyone else. It's like the couple has no sense of object permanence.

As far as I'm concerned, Oh My Venus can go into the same garbage pile as Warm & Cozy. Wait... I just noticed a trend... From henceforth, I shall be leery of any show that makes reference to anything, or anyone, being warm and cozy and/or comfortable.

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Shorebunny

January 7, 2016 at 10:42 AM

agree! Suddenly the adult great relationship turns into fantasy island and her mom should've railed on his ass a bit more, too!
I also didn't like how there were no repercussions for the evil couple. How he got away with all his scheming against the lead couple with no humble pie to eat of his own and how girlfriend/sunbae/boss for me being sterile ( which pcos doesn't do to every woman but whatever writers-check the med facts next time.) and not having any children for pretty boy is okay by me. Perfect punishment for her vain ass indeed. But it wasn't satisfying because they way they wrote it and played it out.

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5 Kdramalove

January 6, 2016 at 3:47 AM

I love this drama. This drama
paved me the way to love So Ji Sub.

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6 zital

January 6, 2016 at 3:51 AM

Same sentiment here- A disney princess tale.

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7 kdramafan

January 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM

Thanks for the recap LollyPip.

I thought the story was all over in the last episode apart from nasty girlfriend's sickness being unexplained but was happy to see this episode pop up at the regular time in my drama line up.

The episode started out as if YH and KJE were never going to do anything physical beyond kissing which had me thinking things were going to d-r-a-g but a couple of minutes in they do in the cutest way and the episode just got sweeter and sweeter.

Roll n Ep. 16 :)

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8 Beez

January 6, 2016 at 4:28 AM

I don't get it. Was there some reason Yong Ho wanted to avoid the erotic night and only have a "warm" one?

I mean, Joo Eun made it clear she was ready & willing. Some lingering concern over his health?

Why does he act as if, if she hasn't "seduced" him that he never would've made a move? I know he was half kidding but it did seem as if he was prepared to only canoodle.

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Cocoboo

January 6, 2016 at 10:23 AM

I think you'll find the answer to your question in the final episode.

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9 AJK

January 6, 2016 at 4:31 AM

I love cute as much as the next person, but this show could have done something so much more interesting with this kind of chemistry and star power. The whole accident/recovery business sent things south in a major way, just as the dreaded illness did in Fated To Love You.

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NoIdeaName

January 6, 2016 at 8:31 AM

YESSSSS

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Miranda

January 6, 2016 at 2:41 PM

They permanently lost me when FOUR separate people all in separate cars all somehow were in the exact same place at the same time. Come on.

And I think a huge opportunity was missed in not having Joo Eun participate in Young Ho's rehab. Seriously? The Joo Eun from the previous episodes did not at all strike me as someone who would just let that slide. For a week, maybe. For two weeks if she's a saint. FOR A YEAR? No. It's also incredibly unsettling when you think that he might pull this vanishing act in future, because he's apparently gotten away with it this time.

This drama just totally lost its way. So Ji Sub has done a fantastic job of walking the incredibly thin line of a man who genuinely worries about health rather than appearance, frankly I'm not sure anyone else could pull it off. And SMA is always great in that "looks like a doll, talks like an ahjumma" sort of way. But starting at the car crash things went ridiculous and shallow, and I'm disappointed in the show.

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AJK

January 6, 2016 at 8:49 PM

Me too. Probably the most disappointed I've been with any Korean drama ever. The first 6 episodes I liked as well as any show I've ever watched.

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Miranda

January 6, 2016 at 11:57 PM

I forgot about Min. FIVE people in separate cars.

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Beez

January 7, 2016 at 11:47 AM

I do agree with most of your post except that everyone was in their cars chasing Yong ho's car so that pay is not as far-fetched as if it was coincidence.

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Miranda

January 7, 2016 at 9:53 PM

BUT HOW!!? Joon Sung has Young Ho's car (and he also left in a flurry of excitement seemingly a good 30 minutes + earlier than everyone else). So he's been on the streets of Seoul for a while, driving to his Mom's house (not a typical Young Ho destination!), and somehow EVERYONE FINDS HIM SIMULTANEOUSLY.

Manager Min is a scary ninja who might just have a tracker on Young Ho's car, so he gets a pass. It's kind of hard to imagine that Young Ho has a tracker for himself, so let's just say he knows where Joon Sung is headed and got really lucky. Then we have Nutty Uncle, who apparently left the hospital and psychically knew exactly where Young Ho's car would be. It's hard to imagine Stepmom somehow tailing Uncle immediately from the hospital, but let's say she did, so she's on the psychic train too. This is in descending order of likelihood, obviously.

But that doesn't explain why Joon Sung has been driving so slowly that ALL of these people could catch him, since he left ages ago.

Five cars. Two starting locations. One professional fighter who drives like my grandma. And they ALL just happen to be in the same spot in the same 30 second gap. Madness!

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alua

January 8, 2016 at 12:06 PM

LOL. I love your analysis Miranda. I'd probably do the writer some good to read it, to realise how to maybe improve with the next script s/he writes.

10 Torrie

January 6, 2016 at 4:39 AM

The proposal was one of the sweetest scenes ever in oh my venus. Pale faced young ho was hilarious. I like soo jin, despite her actions way back. I fear grandma's reaction...grandma is worth a thousand obstacles in their path. I wish young ho will finally see past dad's rock hard facade

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11 Beez

January 6, 2016 at 4:44 AM

I do have sympathy for Soo-jin because I thought all along she was taking diet pills since she would clutch her stomach in pain (hunger, I thought) then reach for the pills.

I kept thinking "ain't nothin' wrong with that wench but she needs to eat!"

I don't think in real life that what she's diagnosed with would be painful in the way they showed it. Wouldn't she normally find out about it after trying to get pregnant or miscarrying?

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Erryn13

January 6, 2016 at 5:19 AM

PCOS can be extremely painful. In addition to the reproductive difficulties, it causes weight fluctuations, heavy, irregular periods and awful cramping. So I, for one, completely get the stomach clenching, now.

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kimchikay

January 6, 2016 at 7:52 AM

Not neccessarily.

I have PCOS and haven't concieved nor am I trying too. Much of what they told her is true and while I never went through the stomach pains, I have fellow PCOS'ers that do get that sort of thing. The thing with the syndrome is the symptoms vary extremely.

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NaijaNoona

January 6, 2016 at 8:07 AM

Like Erryn13 said, PCOS can be very painful. I know folks who have been on hormonal birth control not for family planning purposes but for managing PCOS symptoms.

I wasn't sure how to feel about Soo Jin having had something physically "wrong" with her all along—like Joo Eun's hypothyroidism, a bit convenient for the plot—but I guess the message could be that her focus on outer beauty led her to ignore her body's signals that something else was off. Maybe? IDK. I'm pretty satisfied with this drama not having particularly deep takeways ;)

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Miranda

January 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM

I have no idea what they were trying to do with the pills/pain thing... Not thrilled they paired depression meds with infertility either, since there's absolutely no link between depression meds and female infertility.

I think they were trying to imply the PCOS diagnosis was reached through an endometriosis diagnosis, which certainly can double you up in pain that can be so bad that one of the treatments is literally burning holes in your ovaries. But PCOS it's more weight gain, hair growth, etc.

It was a pretty weird choice for the show, and not a particularly logical one medically. On the other hand if they'd shown that Soo Jin was ANOREXIC and had starved herself to the point of irregular periods, then that might have been interesting. But the late-in-the-game PCOS stuff was just weird.

It's one of the weirder moments in your life, being told that you will have a very hard time having biological kids.

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maripaz

January 6, 2016 at 8:38 PM

+1 I didn't know if it was the subs or what but I was mildly irked at the implication that the antidepressants put her over the edge to someone who will now have a really hard time conceiving.

I like the message of being healthy but actually dislike the push that if you believe, you can do anything. Sometimes ther is something medically wrong with you, and you need meds. Believing harder won't cure anything.

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Miranda

January 7, 2016 at 12:02 AM

I seriously hated that Young Ho left for a year and wouldn't see Joo Eun again until he was fully rehabilitated. As you say, there are events you don't physically bounce back from no matter how hard you try, and the implication that you can only come back when you're totally recovered is nuts. And unrealistic.

I mean, are we supposed to think that Soo Jin is best off hiding from the world until she gets a report that she can have kids? What bullshit is that?

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Beez

January 7, 2016 at 11:51 AM

Anorexia - EXACTLY! It would have played into the show's theme to contrast with JooEun's regimine if healthy weight lost. It's so obvious that I can't believe the writers didn't go there.

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12 Tg

January 6, 2016 at 5:04 AM

There is zero substance to this show and no real plot. They are attractive and pleasant to watch for an hour but that's about it.

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NoIdeaName

January 6, 2016 at 8:32 AM

Agree. Cute moments drove the plot rather than an actual story

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KDaddict?JCW

January 6, 2016 at 5:28 PM

Exactly.
And that's why it's hard to get invested in the love story.

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Sula

January 6, 2016 at 5:34 PM

Agree. I love the two leads, which is why I watched, but had it been anyone else, I would have bailed long ago.

And these last two episodes were a waste, with zero conflict or exceptionally little plot movement.

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DeeDe315

January 6, 2016 at 6:08 PM

Totally agree! They could have ended this one at 14 episodes and we really wouldn't have missed much. Loved the chemistry of the leads and was even OK with Henry. The lack of a real story and story lines that didn't go anywhere, was this drama's weakness.

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leila

January 13, 2016 at 6:23 PM

AGREED! just watching it for their faces. this show really has no plot.

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13 Adal

January 6, 2016 at 5:21 AM

Shin Mina is a class act. I love seeing mature people fall in love. No false shyness or false modesty at all! It is so refreshing to see. Want an erotic night? Go for it! And she can be just as assertive as a man. She and So Ji Sub are sooooo cute together. Lol.

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14 wackycashew

January 6, 2016 at 5:30 AM

Thanks for the recap, LollyPip!

Can't believe we are in the final stretch already. I agree with you that there needs to be a sit-down discussion about the year that he disappeared and that's NOT how they will handle things in the future as a couple.

It was a very sweet proposal and one that viewers were probably looking forward to after seeing that dangling ball of yarn from the scarf. XD I think JE will have no problem standing her ground with Grandma, so I'm looking forward to that in the finale.

Love that JW and JS are still in contact with JE's mom. Yes, love the ma'am's mommy! Hahaha... Professional Go-Stopper! =P YH being all nervous meeting Mom was so cute. And yes, love that JE felt equally nervous meeting him mom and the words she said were so touching.

I feel bad for SJ and definitely hopes that she can see her worth of being loved. I'm expecting WS to come through despite her pushing him away right now. And yes, so satisfying to see SJ and JE working together on a case.

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15 Kdramalover

January 6, 2016 at 5:44 AM

I love this drama. Though to some, it takes maturity and real life experience to comprehend the essence of this drama.

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16 stuffed

January 6, 2016 at 6:44 AM

After several years of kdrama watching, I've decided that the best way to enjoy kdrama romcoms is to suspend all logic so I can enjoy and appreciate them to the fullest. I've yet to watch a romcom that fully makes sense; perhaps I havent found one. But life's too short to be too serious anyway. If I wanted to be critical and philosophical, I'd go for kmovies instead, or not watch romcoms.

So with that in mind, I was able to appreciate OMV for what it is trying (or tried) to be. It's definitively a drama that is full of flaws but I wouldn't argue that it didn't make full use of the two stars (both in terms of skills and looks). And the message of health and healing is pretty refreshing, at least from the perspectives of a kdrama.

That said, I had fun reading all the comments on the what-could-or-should-have-beens. It is, for the most part, an educational experience reading different ways of viewing the issues present in OMV. Cant wait too see what's in store for the final episode recap.

Anyway, thanks Lollypip! Cool to know you're into knitting!

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Rachel

January 6, 2016 at 7:09 AM

Completely agree! I wouldn't be watching k-dramas if I wanted something actually logical and realistic. We watch them because they bring us joy and pleasure, which is exactly what OMV succeeded in doing.

I love the chemistry between the leads and all of the main characters and the mix of personalities. Let's be honest - at least no one died and at least the grandma isn't pulling boys over flowers nonsense (or i hope not in the next episode).

I love the idea of how no family is perfect but we learn to appreciate what we have. I love the idea of health, as well, and how he keeps saying that a healthy woman is the sexiest.

This drama was everything I could ask of it. Thanks for recapping, Lollypip!

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Qkha

January 6, 2016 at 7:30 AM

Couldn't agree with u more!!

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belami-js

January 6, 2016 at 8:38 AM

Same here. Very well said!

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Dody

January 6, 2016 at 7:42 PM

YUP AGREEEEEEEE

"how he keeps saying that a healthy woman is the sexiest."

this is one of the things i loved in this drama tbh .. with all the drama flaws it really has some pretty messages imo.

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Magentaz

January 6, 2016 at 7:28 AM

Agree to each and every word you typed there, Cantsleep-nim!

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Belle

January 6, 2016 at 11:33 AM

Thumbs up! I couldn't agree more!

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Beez

January 7, 2016 at 11:57 AM

I don't look for realism but if a show introduces a subject, I do look for it to be followed logically and followed up as opposed to abandoned. And if it is abandoned, I'm more lenient if it's because the show ran out of time based upon the number of episodes. But if they full up with backflashes when they could've used the time to wrap up the storylines they introduced...then I'm frustrated.

I'm okay with characters' actions not always being logical cause that's how people can be SOMETIMES, but if logic isn't adhered to when it comes to physical circumstances, and the majority of characters, the majority of the time, that's just crazy.

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17 Kai To

January 6, 2016 at 7:10 AM

The themes were quite revolutionary for Asian dramas - I do appreciate the fluff since it helps things go down easily for mass audiences.
Bubblegum is probably an example of revolutionary themes and being a serious watch and see how well it did.
Sometimes the mainstream audience isn't ready for things we already take for granted in Western T.V.
I'm happy to see a drama that address domestic abuse, weight issues, and competent women in top management positions and adult sexuality (amongst other issues) with the firepower of such star power of the two leads.

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minathens

January 6, 2016 at 10:33 AM

Yes-- I thought there was a lot of stealth substance in this one. Not necessarily perfectly done, but hey, at least they were trying. And the competence and overt, unembarrased physicality and sexuality of JE's character seemed really unusual compared to most of the K dramas I've seen, and really I'd even say most of the tv dramas I've seen period.

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AJK

January 6, 2016 at 2:19 PM

I thought all the substance was in about the first 8-10 episodes. Really good stuff re: adult relationships and inner versus outer beauty, etc. But it's been undermined by the almost incomprehensibly silly family/business/scandal machinations that seem like they've been dragged in from a 90s drama.

I barely made it through Episode 15. It was all fluff, which after the really great early development (intellectual, emotional and physical) of the relationship in the first 6 episodes, just felt cheap and unrealistic, like costume jewelry. Pretty to look at, but nothing of real value. Sixteen looks to be more of the same.

Probably what annoys me the most is the under-use or misuse of their secondary cast. They let so many promising story lines wither on the vine, or never really bloom into anything at all. I find a lot of Korean (and American for that matter) dramas overwritten. This one was under-written.

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Beez

January 7, 2016 at 11:58 AM

+++1

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18 kathfurio

January 6, 2016 at 7:14 AM

First time commenting.

Jusy really need to share how much I love the show.

Loving the proposal ???????

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19 Xxvxx

January 6, 2016 at 7:20 AM

Thanks for the recap! *does lip smacking sounds*

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20 MissUnicorn

January 6, 2016 at 7:41 AM

I used to wish for a drama with plenty of fluffs with no major obstacles to satisfy my disneyish-happily-ever-after daydreams. I think OMV is pretty much my wish coming true. Despite that, I guess I came to understand why many dramas try to avoid this whole full-of-primarily-fluffs situation. While the whole thing seems really sweet and all (love all the Young ho in love moments; the proposal was awfully sweet as well), there is this weird unsatisfying feeling after each episode. Kinda like an awkward aftertaste. And this sucks, because i really really like our OTP and the premise of the show. :/ I'm not sure if i'm the only one though feeling this way though.

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bluecow

January 6, 2016 at 11:47 PM

@Ting You're not the only one. I really love lovey moments, etc. but I feel like this show really lost its way somewhere (probably around the accident). It seems to me to just gloss over issues/conflict so the leads can get more fluff ASAP, but it gets repetitive and bothersome that they are skating over some serious obstacles by just making the characters amenable to whatever situation. It doesn't feel as earned, which makes it less satisfying.

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21 Claudia

January 6, 2016 at 7:44 AM

I think she knew. He was coming back to her. She lives and trust him. I do agree he should had called or something but that's his character. I think this drama is pretty much a love story and not much more. It was very enjoyable to watch. But a little wtf you just left speech would had been great. Having him fight for her love a little more. But oh well it's almost over. Overall simple love story.

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22 kimchikay

January 6, 2016 at 7:55 AM

Since episode 12, I feel like I'm watching a CF with two gorgeous people being very lovey dovey. As most CF's are, thin on plot but exceeding expectations on the visuals....so yeah....

So Ji Sub, I love you, but you really tested my loyalty here.

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Jean

January 6, 2016 at 8:26 AM

Agree. I really had to condition myself to accept that this drama is what it is especially after watching So Ji Sub in The Master's Sun which was one of the smartest dramas out there for me.

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MissUnicorn

January 6, 2016 at 9:45 AM

Omg 100% agree.

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Princess

January 6, 2016 at 9:58 AM

I read the same exact comment translated on Netizenbuzz aha
OMV is fun but its really lacking compared to his other dramas like Road No. 1, Ghost, I'm Sorry I Love You, WHIB, and Master's Sun and his movie Rough Cut

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Yellow Mellow

January 6, 2016 at 10:28 PM

Yeah, totally agree. With the plot as it was, I wondered why so many high profile actors accepted the roles?

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Beez

January 7, 2016 at 12:02 PM

My (limited) understanding is that since the scripts are not finished before they start filming, the actors don't know how is going to go.

I can't imagine how they pick their next projects. Big name Hollywood actors would be scared to death of picking flops.

Maybe Korean fans are more forgiving when it comes to that?

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23 Jellybean

January 6, 2016 at 8:20 AM

I have to admit i watch this only for So Ji Sub and this may be the most flawed kdrama i've watched after Heirs! I just loved SJS more than LMH that's why i stayed. Kim Woo Bin saved Heirs for me haha. Nevertheless, it wouldn't hurt to watch these kinds of dramas for a while.

It's funny though because i have both hypothyroidism and PCOS last year but after a healthy lifestyle my lab tests both showed normal findings this year. NOW WHERE IS THE SO JI SUB FOR ME? KIDDING.

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bbstl

January 6, 2016 at 10:18 AM

That's really impressive, congratulations on your hard work! You do deserve an SJS of your very own ?

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August

January 6, 2016 at 12:17 PM

Congrats on your better health and the good news about your lab test results.

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24 belami-js

January 6, 2016 at 8:45 AM

The ending, it has to be the best proposal scene in Kdrama!! It left me with such a big smile on my face! So Ji-sub, I love your smiling eyes!!!

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25 Scinoona

January 6, 2016 at 9:03 AM

I know they were actors, but i feel sorry for Kim Woo Bin. ?

SMA and SJS's chemistry are great and sweet.

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26 Mae

January 6, 2016 at 10:12 AM

Joo eun kept contact for the whole year they were apart: the 100+ texts etc. So it wasn't complete radio silence between them. She knew he could see them even if he didn't read them.

Besides she was always close to his 'support team' ie his two boys. Youngho and Jooeun were not together but still held a bond. I don't think its so incredible he came back and she accepted him with open arms.

That's love and understanding, not a Disney princess tale.

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AJK

January 6, 2016 at 2:25 PM

I don't think anyone doubts her love and understanding. But, by going it alone for a year, he seems not to have grown or been changed at all by loving her. He seems not to have learned that he can rely on and trust her, and that whatever condition he is in, she needs him.

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Miranda

January 6, 2016 at 2:52 PM

But did it remotely fit Joo Eun's personality? I don't think it did. She's a straight-talking woman who coached him into overcoming a psychosomatic disorder at the riskiest time in his career. She's more than proven herself to be a solid partner and able to judge boundaries.

It's INSANE that it would be okay for Young Ho to leave for a full year without once contacting her back, and I don't think she'd put up with it. That's not how life works, and it's certainly a worrying way to start a life you're sharing with someone else.

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jusash

January 7, 2016 at 12:48 PM

Yes, but she also has the security in her own self, and sense to back off when she feels he needs his own private space.

JH was so shy about the imaginary JE seeing him .. I think that spoke volumes about his inner vulnerable self, despite the exterior.

It also means they know/trust each other well enough, and JE knows YH enough to know what each other is about and that he will be back when healed even if she's not a physical part of the supportive process

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Miranda

January 7, 2016 at 9:56 PM

There's backing off, and then there's leaving the country and not responding or communicating for a year. There was nothing wrong with his brain, if he hates people seeing him weak (which is going to be one hell of an issue when they get older) then there's no real excuse for not at least writing each other.

Whole thing freaked me out.

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27 Cocoboo

January 6, 2016 at 10:25 AM

The proposal scene was the sweetest one I have ever seen! :)

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28 Abril

January 6, 2016 at 11:50 AM

The main reason I'm watching this drama is because it's romcom. I love the fact that it's not complicated like other kdramas, it's sweet and straight forward. I already have my own personal dramas and this series is helping me to distress. There are many loopholes in the story, yes. but if this will be complicated like other kdramas, then what will be the difference? I love the fact that this is refreshing and easy to watch.

That's all.

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qkha

January 6, 2016 at 7:37 PM

totally agree!!

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Dody

January 6, 2016 at 7:49 PM

AGREE !!
and seriously people need to chill, it's just a refreshing rom-com to laugh and distress your week, it was like that from the very beginning .. that's it!

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29 owl

January 6, 2016 at 12:17 PM

Just the fact that he knit the perfectly pink scarf himself and hid a ring in the dangling pom pom is enough to make the proposal as romantic as they come. I can set the entire rest of the story aside for that moment.

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30 August

January 6, 2016 at 12:28 PM

Taking the marriage proposal to the next level...the pay-off was certainly impressive.

Oh My Venus - Knitting & a surprise marriage proposal.
Imaginary Cat - A must see for cat owners and those partial to cats.

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31 Claudia

January 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM

Agree!! I like this simple little love story!!!

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32 May

January 6, 2016 at 1:41 PM

Why do I think the are somethings still hanging?
Don't get me wrong I still loved it but what happened to her father?
Any was that space on the wall empty? And they emphasize on it when Youngho visited
There are a few gaps in the plot that they all appears and never closed

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33 OppaOppa

January 6, 2016 at 1:42 PM

This drama was ok for the first 9 episodes.
Then it seemed to go nowhere for from 10-12.
Then 13-14 accidents appeared to be created for some drama as the writer did not know where to go from here. So Rom-com becomes melodrama, makjang. Without the top leads the drama would have been virtually un-watchable.

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34 Michelle

January 6, 2016 at 3:54 PM

This drama is awesome. Great acting from the leads esp. So Ji Sub. One of the best dramas of 2015. Definitely a must watch drama and something you would love re-watching.

What a great ride! Hope you see another drama of So Ji Sub. Jeh-bal come back soon!

I can't believe I become addicted to him after this drama. His older dramas and movies are also worth watching.

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35 kat

January 6, 2016 at 5:05 PM

I think the reason YH did not allowed SJ to see him after the accident is because even though she looks and says she is strong, she always paralyses when she is in a stressful situation (remember "save me"?) Everytime she doesn't know how to react. He knew that and the best way to protect her was to keep her away...or at least that's what i think the writer meant.

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36 antonia

January 6, 2016 at 5:27 PM

looove this episode
sjs you're so sexy and sweet and i just want you!

thanks for this lovely recap

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37 anotherfan

January 6, 2016 at 5:31 PM

So I really think YH and JE awe my top OTP of 2015 dramas. Absolutely love them together. Love love love.

But at the same time, the script is terrible at best. But I think we all know that.

Without SJS and SMA, I would have dropped it like a sack of hot potatoes. Ok, that's kinda a lie cause if it were a few other select actors I would have stayed as well. SMA is a must. Point being the star power was absolutely key to making the script come alive.

I have so many gripes cause it really could have been so much tighter. They are lucky that there is a lot of cute to make us forgive the other shortcomings. I give them lots of points for cute and showing SJS doing cute stuff :)

I also think that JE should talk to him about the disappearing act. That would be the mature thing to do. He did apologize but I think it would be nice to have made it more obvious that he would not do that again. I think je's mom said it best to him in ep 16.

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38 min joon

January 6, 2016 at 6:26 PM

I loved the entire episode, and wow, what a proposal, which i only guessed at only about one half second before joo eun figured it out herself. . . just perfect.

But just as amazing as i found the end of this episode i was also very impresssed by the beginning half of the episode where. . . nothing happened.

After their cute sexy night, they wake up happy. They have breakfast happy. they watch TV happy. . . and they exercise happy. No conflict no plot whatsoever for twenty minutes, until they are interrupted by a phone call.

This was a very bold choice for the writers who really put their trust in the actors and For me this all worked beautifully.

I think this scene gave me an image of the characters as a real live couple. It shows how they will be after this "drama" has ended. (I mean. If they were not just imaginary and all.) Its also like getting a little peek into what happily ever after really looks like.

And its another example of how unique this little romcom has been. I really have loved these characters and i am so sorry that it is almost over.

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39 darren lim 8448

January 6, 2016 at 6:41 PM

THEY FINALLY HAD HOT S E X !!!

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40 JohnandVan Jackson

January 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM

I really loved the happy moments the two leads shared, what a nice uncomplicated story. I could def watch again. I am sorry to see it end. I so want these two paired again in rom com so cute, I smiled and laughed through out most of the show.

Loved the heroine so strong, and she kept up her healthy life style while her man was away, and respected his choice to see to his recovery the way it made him most comfortable. I think it is nice when you have a relationship that is supportive and it would have been nice to see His Venus help him recover. However, sometimes going it alone is what a person needs, and loved that JE was strong enough and in love enough to let her man do it his way, despite being separated from him. Anyway i so enjoyed.

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41 jusash

January 6, 2016 at 11:59 PM

THANKS Lollypip!

(1) I am fine with the one yr apart. As mentioned before, different people react differently to stress, coping, pain thresholds etc. I see it as cool they intuitively understood each other well enough to wait, trust and believe.

(2) What is also neat is daring to broach weight, health (both psychological and physical), inside beauty vs outside (Kdramas and Kculture can be too invested in image) ... having independent strong career women who dare to challenge men in corporate culture), her single-mom friend, having women take the initiative and lead ... there're many new pathways in this drama that is NOT quite the Kculture norm. It's celebratory!

(3) NOT cool was the multi car accidents. Totally unnecc to introduce makjang which this drama steered clear of thus far (that recovery episode also conveniently helped rid him of his psychological pain(

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42 jra

January 7, 2016 at 6:08 AM

Love this drama. The chemistry of SJS and SMA is so great I almost wish it's real. But the bts shows how comfortable they are with each other and keeps giggling after a cheesy scene so it's just work for them. Wish they'll be in another drama or movie soon.

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43 ek

January 9, 2016 at 8:15 PM

Love this drama so much! The proposal is perfect. Anyone know where was the proposal scene?

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44 Vonna

January 25, 2016 at 5:29 AM

While I felt as you did initially in regards to the absence and Soo-Jin's behaviour and Joo-Euns' response to both they are synonymous. The upset and anger and eventual forgiveness of Soo-Jin was due to SILENCE, absence & bitter misunderstanding. You yourself spoke of how communication was key. Whereas I too disapproved of how Young-Ho handled things. He had the boys keep constant contact with him and them with her. Which I think is often the thing lacking in Dramaland. We see enough of the story to be thrown into the emotional turmoil but, not enough to get on the band wagon of certain decisions. Also, factor in how close Manager Min was depicted in being with Young-Ho but, stayed behind in Korea you best believe he was keep tabs on Joo-Eun during that time. So while she was cut off from the physical & verbal display of love from Young-Ho she was not from his support system. While not completely abreast of specifics she wasn't in the dark either thus she was able to hang on for a year and move forward as she did when he came back. Her frustration at his absence had already been released through those 200+ text messages she had sent. Not excusing his decision or her immediate response to his return but, considering the feeling of loss with Soo-jin's friendship AND Young-Ho's absence no doubt left her feeling too much time has been wasted in a trivial way and thus they needed to move on to more important things. That couldn't be accomplished if she spent the episode making him feel guilty abut a decision too late to be altered. That was brought out often throughout the series with the "no use crying over spilled milk' analogy father & son often used. I think as viewers sometimes we can be lazy and expect the show to spell out every little thing for us like a book often would. But because it is visual we tend to overlook the subtleties shows divulge at times. For me, a good show doesn't spell everything out but, with a successful character build leaves me enough room to contemplate what in the frame work of what I've learned about their personalities makes sense with their choices. In other words, the show shouldn't do all the thinking work for you or else where is the fun in that?

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45 RBF

March 30, 2016 at 3:23 PM

I am new, sort of to Kdrama--I agree with most comments so far, but how come nobody commented on the pre-marital sex? This is the first I have seen on a kdrama-have I just been watching the wrong ones???

Nobody in the drama seems to be bothered that she is having twins BEFORE the wedding--is this common in Korea now, in 2016? All the dramas I've been watching have barely touched lips, though lots of hugging....and innuendo.

Help me understand, please! I'm not opposed by the way --just confused!