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I Remember You: Episode 5

Our bickering duo comes together to solve this new case, inevitably reliant on each other for progress. It seems that these two complement each other in a way that opposites do (and don’t), and I can finally say that with confidence now that we’re given more about Ji-an’s past. For the two involved, the pieces and hints have not come together, but we’re slowly putting together the bigger picture of how these two are inextricably linked.

 
EPISODE 5: “Borne back ceaselessly into the past”

Ji-an tries to muffle her hiccups in the closet, and Hyun glares at her. As Myung-woo and Team Leader Kang approach the closet ready for some serious self-defense, Ji-an silently signals to Hyun and pops out of the closet.

The two investigators jump back in shock, and Ji-an sheepishly grins at her ex coworkers. She apologizes and admits that she desperately wanted to return to the field, so she snuck in.

Myung-woo’s instincts tell him to inspect the closet, but Ji-an jumps in front of it. She accuses Myung-woo of sexual harassment — for his comments about her attractiveness as a woman — and threatens to report him. He tries to convince her not to take the comments seriously, so she decides to use Hammurabi’s Code as a guide for her next steps. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth — she’ll just reciprocate his actions.

Ji-an chases the investigators out of the apartment, and Hyun watches her with a slightly impressed smile. He steps out into the dark room, finally able to have the place quiet for himself. He contemplates the motivations for this murder. Was it related to Lee Joon-young? Is this an unrelated case? Then why did the suspect kill Officer Yang?

“Beyond the physical evidence, the crime scene also holds emotional evidence.” Officer Yang did not defend himself against the attacker, and Hyun deduces that it must be guilt that held him back. Hyun takes a look at the pill he found on the floor, which he recognizes to be cancer treatment pills. What would be on the conscience of a dying man?

Lawyer Jung drives home while thinking back to Old Man’s words. Someone he knew died, and another disappeared. He shows him a picture of a man and asks Lawyer Jung to find his son. We cut to the pictured man, now an imprisoned man.

Jumping back to the crime scene, Hyun presumes the motives behind the killer: a grudge, punishment, revenge. The killer walks into a room of another home and looks over a killed mother and young daughter.

Ji-an slurps noodles with her ex co-investigators, and Team Leader Kang apologizes for his inability to keep Ji-an on their team. Ji-an shakes her head and says, “I’m sorry (in her head: “for housing a criminal suspect”).” They exchange apologies a few more times, though Ji-an keeps insisting that she’s more sorry. Heh.

When Ji-an returns home, she finds Hyun falling asleep. She warns him not to leave the rug, threatening him with her expert martial arts skills, and he responds with a weak yes.

Then Ji-an finds his shirt with a cut and blood stain in the back and flips his shirt up to find the cut. Although Hyun tells her to ignore it, she grabs her first aid kit to clean up his wound.

Hyun pretends to sleep through her nursing, so he doesn’t get to witness Ji-an slowly tilting her head and leaning closer to his face to get a closer look. She thinks back to their proximity in the closet but quickly snaps out of it by slapping herself. HA.

Despite all her threats, Ji-an ends up curled up and sleeping by Hyun. He wakes up and carries her into her bed. It’s super sweet until he shoves her onto her bed, but he walks away with an amused smile. It’s still super cute.

The next morning, Ji-an’s nose flares to the aroma of breakfast, courtesy of Hyun. She wakes up to a clean house (also thanks to Hyun) and approaches the kitchen, excited to try the food. Hyun looks at her with disgust and says that he won’t be giving her any food until she washes up.

Ji-an messily shoves the food into her mouth, and Hyun repeatedly hands her napkins to clean up her mess. It’s clear that she could care less, so Hyun ends up cleaning up after her. But that sparks a memory, back to when Hyun used to clean up after his younger brother.

Snapping back into the present, Hyun tells Ji-an to pay for her food. He wouldn’t have fed her for nothing, right?

Ji-an enters the office and greets her old team. She claims that she’s just here to clean her desk, though Myung-woo knows she’s actually seeking information about the case. He blocks her attempts to peek at their case board, but their funny antics are interrupted by Chief Hyun and Deputy Chief Kang.

Hyun has once again recruited his indebted friend, who complains about being Hyun’s chauffeur and wallet. He can’t just order him to buy new clothes, a new phone, and lend him money (except he just did, ha). Hyun casually explains that he’s a murder suspect, so he can’t use his own cards.

Indebted Friend freaks out a little and quickly obliges when Hyun asks him to drop him off. As he’s about to report the self-proclaimed murder suspect, Hyun warns him not to report. If he does, he’ll be the accomplice. Hyun leaves with a wink, and Indebted Friend glares in frustration.

Hyun tries to meet the doctor who did the autopsy for Officer Yang, but he’s serendipitously noticed by Joon-ho in the lobby. They recognize each other, pleasantly surprised at the coincidence. Joon-ho tells Hyun that another body was discovered with a similar wound, which brings a smile to Hyun’s face. Chances are, it’s the same killer.

In the autopsy room, Joon-ho describes that the wound resembles the one Sharon Stone’s character makes with an ice pick in Basic Instinct. He’s confident that it’s the same killer, though this newly discovered corpse’s facial expressions seem to show more struggle. This corpse, Jo Hyuk-joo was the first victim, and Officer Yang was the second.

Hyun thanks him before heading out, but Joon-ho mentions that he should treat him after he clears his name. Hyun slowly turns around and agrees to do so. Hmm, kinda sketchy that you knowingly helped a murder suspect, no?

Meanwhile, Ji-an searches through Officer Yang’s files under Hyun’s specific orders. He calls her with an update about Jo Hyuk-joo and asks her to search him, since he has a criminal record.

After the call, Myung-woo approaches her, asking what she’s up to. She smiles nervously, helplessly frozen in her search through Officer Yang’s profile. But thankfully, Myung-woo stops at the news that a new body has been found. The team leaves in a hurry, leaving Ji-an to pack some case files for home.

Perusing through the files, Ji-an complains to Hyun that she almost had heart attack trying to be sneaky around Myung-woo and had to make Seung-joo a spy for her. Her complaints come to a sudden halt when Hyun pats her head, telling her that she did well.

Hyun continues to give orders about further investigation, and Ji-an eventually ends up falling asleep. When she wakes up, she can’t find Hyun anywhere and runs out of the house, convinced that he made a run for it. But he’s just chilling on the stairs with a beer, and Ji-an breathes a sigh of relief.

Looking afar, Hyun notes that he can’t see the stars well from here. He points out the Big Dipper and throws out a backhanded compliment that at least she has good eyesight. As she glares back at him, Hyun continues that the Big Dipper didn’t exist until people connected the stars, and the constellations were interpreted differently depending on context.

It’s similar to a case, he claims. Individual points don’t have meaning until they are connected to draw a bigger picture. He asks if she’s drawn any connections, but Ji-an shakes her head. Hyun can’t draw the picture yet either because they’re lacking the connecting piece.

Sharing a beer, they end the night gazing at the stars.

A hooded figure follows an older man into a building, and the next thing we know, we’ve got a new crime scene. Our investigative team arrives, and Seung-joo calls Ji-an with the updates that their new victim is the retired Officer Choi.

Hyun overhears the call while making breakfast and stops to search his memory for the connecting link. He smiles at the narrowing of evidence and heads out with Ji-an.

In the car, Hyun describes the connecting case as a big publicized murder 15 years ago. It’s the murder of the mother and young daughter from the earlier scene. They revisit the crime scene, and Hyun describes that the charged suspect was the father, who claimed innocence in court but ultimately became imprisoned.

There was one sole survivor: Park Dae-young, who was ten years old at the time. He was at hiding at the scene of the crime. Then Hyun thinks to himself: “Like me, the sole survivor.” Ji-an notes that this boy grew up as a criminal’s child. She thinks to herself: “Like me.” Huh, interesting.

The hooded figure returns home and sees the old crime scene of his mother and sister. Dae-young tells his family that he only has one more person left. As he retreats into his room, we see the imagined crime scene disappear.

Seung-joo gets a message from Ji-an, asking him to look up Park Dae-young. Myung-woo catches him in the act and wonders how she’s investigating this case. He and the rest of the team suspect that Ji-an is working with none other than their suspect, Lee Hyun.

And right they are, as we see the duo walk to the prison and ask to meet with Park Young-chul, the father of our suspected killer. But they can’t meet him at the moment because he’s meeting with a lawyer.

Cue Lawyer Jung’s exit from his visit. He explains that he was here on a request to gain more information, and Hyun notes that this is a fun coincidence. Lawyer Jung quotes the Greek philosopher Leucippus about not believing in coincidence, for everything has a reason. They start to go off on their knowledge about philosophers, but Ji-an quickly cuts them off before they become full pompous assholes.

Before he takes his leave, Lawyer Jung asks Hyun if he seems familiar. Hyun doesn’t recognize him from the past, so Lawyer Jung leaves with his creepy wide smile. Ji-an comments on how Lawyer Jung was probably not important enough or didn’t leave enough of an impression, like her. The duo leaves, but we see Lawyer Jung’s smile fall at that comment.

As they walk away, Hyun says that it could be the exact opposite: He might just remember trifling things but not anything of significance. Just then, Ji-an receives a call from Seung-joo. He tells her that Park Dae-young’s location hasn’t changed throughout the years and that he has no cellphone records.

Before they go inside, Hyun decides they’ll play good cop, bad cop — him as bad, her as good. Hyun asks Park Young-chul about the murder, to which he proudly states that he’s the killer. Seeing through his lies, Hyun shows him the picture of his dead wife. Park Young-chul shakes in traumatic distress, and before Hyun can show him his dead daughter’s picture, he aggressively yells, claiming again that he’s the killer.

Hyun spits back passionately that Park Young-chul must have ordered his son to become the killer, and our innocent prisoner drops down in tears. At this point, Hyun signals Ji-an to finish the job and leaves the room.

Ji-an admits to Park Young-chul that she, like his son, is a criminal’s daughter. We flash back to the fake ambulance leaving the prison with Lee Joon-young, his accomplice, and the responsible prison guard — Ji-an’s father. He disappeared with the ambulance, so he was framed as a conspirator. Though she didn’t believe any of it, Young Ji-an was still ridiculed and marginalized.

She tells Park Young-chul that no matter how much she believed in the innocence of her father, it didn’t make her youth as a criminal’s daughter any easier. She knows his son’s plight better than anyone, and she wants to help.

Ji-an meets Hyun outside, having successfully gained Park Dae-young’s location. Before they continue, she asks if he really believes what he said before. He doesn’t really think that Park Young-chul ordered his son to kill, right?

Ji-an relays the location to our investigative team, and Myung-woo asks where Team Leader Kang is. He’s constipated. Wait, what?! Haha, he’s been in the bathroom for the last 20 minutes. Chief Hyun orders the team to get on their way and says that she’ll update Team Leader Kang.

Dae-young looks through the pictures of his targets. All are crossed out except for the last one: Old Man. He puts the picture away, ready to head out for his last kill.

The team and our duo race off to their destinations. Myung-woo leads his team through Dae-young’s house, but it’s empty. He desperately searches through the suspect’s belongings and finds the pictures. He recognizes the picture of Old Man: It’s the superintendent public prosecutor, Shin Jang-woo.

As our investigative team loads the car to head over to Shin Jang-woo’s house, Ji-an and Hyun arrive. Ji-an pleads to go along with them, and Myung-woo reluctantly allows it. He sees Hyun come out of the car and bitterly comments that he needed to handcuff this guy (Dave, he always calls him, though his real name is David).

Hyun doesn’t follow along and surveys the killer’s room. He notices the shelves of books and notes that Dae-young must be into literature.

Dae-young sneaks into Shin Jang-woo’s home and into his room, where he’s sleeping. But another man jumps out of the covers: Team Leader Kang. He warns Dae-young to surrender, but to no avail. Team Leader Kang shows off some expert skills and handcuffs our suspect just as the rest of the team barges into the room. Maybe our team leader ain’t heodang after all?

As the team leaves, Team Leader Kang boasts about his skills and how he was ready for a day just like this. He starts to talk about his long arms and legs but slips down the stairs. Ha, I take that back. Team Leader Kang is truly heodang.

Hyun picks out some books and flips through F. Scott Fitzgerald’s The Great Gatsby. He finds a marked line, which reads: “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”

Dae-young breaks down into tears in the police car, and his father cries in his jail cell. The team sees him crying and watches sympathetically.

Deputy Chief Kang commends the team for successfully capturing the suspect, and Myung-woo cautiously brings up the topic of Ji-an. Team Leader Kang adds that they couldn’t have stopped the fourth murder if it weren’t for Ji-an, and the whole team agrees. Deputy Chief Kang walks away in a huff, but Chief Hyun assures them that she’ll try to convince him.

The team walks out (Team Leader Kang limps) to grab a drink with Ji-an, but they’re all unsettled by this case. According to their research, the officers made a mistake in their investigation and Prosecutor Shin Jang-woo purposefully prosecuted an innocent Park Young-chul as the killer of his family instead of the real killer (and first victim) Jo Hyuk-joo, who had a connection to the prosecutor. Seung-joo angrily argues that they should petition for retrial.

During a prison visit, Park Young-chul tells Lawyer Jung that he’ll withdraw his petition for retrial. Ji-an narrates that they didn’t know the reason for his withdrawal until 2 months later. Park Dae-young admitted his wrongs in a speedy trial, and through some higher up power, he was placed in the same prison as his father.

As they approach each other in person, Dae-young repeats the Gatsby quote: “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”

Ji-an returns home and thinks about Myung-woo’s comment when they went out for drinks. Park Dae-young spent his whole life living in the house where his mother and sister died. Team Leader Kang says that he must have lived along with the deceased.

Hyun prepares tea in his home and casually imagines his dead father in the kitchen. Ji-an wonders, “What would life be like, to live along with deceased family?”

 
COMMENTS

We got a break from the comedy and the quick pace, but I appreciate the more contemplative nature of this episode. The slower pace is reflective of the personal content revealed about our characters, and I found it fitting to digest the information about Ji-an at her pace. Now that we’re told about Ji-an’s father, I find her obsession with Lee Joon-young and Hyun a little more understandable. Much like Hyun, the loss of her father relates back to Lee Joon-young, though her struggle seems to be quite different. While Hyun faced guilt and trauma, Ji-an would have dealt with frustrating silence amidst misunderstanding. Her moment of vulnerability in her role as good cop was palpable, and I love how the reveal felt very natural within this storyline.

I do wonder how much Hyun knows about Ji-an though, and if he knew that her story would relate to our innocent father. So far, Hyun only gives to get, and such attitude is a little off-putting, especially when human life and emotion aren’t objects that can easily be exchanged. When Joon-ho revealed that a new corpse was found, I found Hyun’s excitement a little chilling. Was he happy about the dead body because he could clear his name? Or because more bodies means more evidence? My gut tells me it’s the latter, as we’ve seen his brutal honesty when it comes to solving cases. His lack of emotion — except for amusement and sometimes excitement — worries me, but I hope that it’s something we’ll see slowly developing over time. I mean, how else is he going to end up romantically paired with Ji-an? Not with them backhanded compliments and amusing manipulation.

Speaking of, the romance in this episode was definitely amped up a notch. Sharing living quarters definitely helps facilitate the curiosity. They notice each other, and that’s what we need to get this ship sailing. Compared to a traditional rom-com, we’re given crumbs on the rom side and a whole cake with the com side, but that makes the romantic moments even cuter. Like the whole scene where Ji-an slowly tilts her head to Hyun’s level out of curiosity, and he carries her into bed. Heee.

But chemistry and perpendicular sleeping aside, I found this subplot quite intriguing and poignant. Father and son meeting inside a prison was a tragic depiction of the flawed justice system, and it definitely highlighted Old Man as the antagonist. Despite how involved Lawyer Jung is with Old Man’s business, I hope that his connection to Hyun is a good one. The Gatsby quote was a great addition to the theme of this episode (and this drama as a whole), as we saw the parallels of our young killer and Hyun stuck in the past. But having your past justify your present and future actions becomes a dangerous rationale. It’ll be interesting to see if Hyun considers and chooses to go down that similar slippery slope. Or slipper stairs, for that matter. Hehe.

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Not watched this ep yet, but thank you so much for recapping, dramallama!! Brilliant drama!!

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i dont know why but the chemistry between the two lead actors doesnt seem right...romance seems forced!!..but that apart I'm lovin' it! Moreover i find the interactions between the lawyer and the doctor super intriguing!

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I agree about the romance part... For me, she is giving her all but the actor looks a bit stoic and the chemistry looks more forced from his side even though he is a good actor...or it could be just the way his role has been written because supposedly he is supposed "special"...

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*...supposedly he is “special”…

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Jang Nara did a small interview and the low viewer rating of this drama was mentioned, she said she found is sad the viewers where not picking up on the drama, suggesting the story line may be more detailed/complicated than viewers where used to, but had confidance in the production and her cast members and was making sure to give her everything to the drama and not be distracted by the viewer ratings

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“He doesn’t look like a bad guy when he sleeps”. She indulged and lost in admiring his Sleeping Hunk sight. In fact, the moment she settled for not reporting him, she has already trusted and believe his words, just like when she was a kid, she trusted him, even when he has not even once defends himself, when people thought his was a monster, having not even cried once after the whole tragedy. Here, we see the willingness of Ji-An, to self-convinced herself he is not really bad. Sweet Ji-An.
“you did well.” (Hyeon pat her heads as both of them sorted thru the files, ahha…. He really knew her well, how much “power” lies in his hands (or touch)… LOL, and she instantly went numb, and obedient. Here, we see the simple cuteness of Ji-An, so ready and easily pleased and “be conquered”…hahaha!!! Cute Ji-An.
“… in the house his family died in, I wonder how a person would look who lived like that, it is living among the dead.” This is the most painful sentence in the whole ep, Here, we see the ability of Ji-An to feel for Hyeon, putting herself in his shoe, aching for him, as someone who was addicted to pain, addicted to living with the dead, as good as a living dead. Thru out the whole show, there are many moments, where we keep finding Ji-An allowing herself to ache her heart over Hyeon and even Min, (and even once LJY). To be able to feel pain like what someone felt, is a gift, precious in this age of ignorance and self centered living. Beautiful Ji-An.

actually i rewatching the 16 ep for Cha Ji-An.

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I´m loving the "romance"! It becomes more evident in ep 6, but it´s decidedly one-sided, so I guess your complaints are justified. Still, for some reason I really like how it´s handed out in small proportions, it makes them more special somehow and all in all, these two have a loooong way to go anyway.

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Agree. Ji-an has definitely developed a crush on hyun, but it seems only to be one-sided at this stage. Compared to Ji-an, Hyun is much more reserved and it is much harder for him to open up for a relationship. I really appreciate that the writer doesn't rush them into romance and fill the drama with kisses and hugs just for the rating and i wish she would keep the good work

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i think their lack of romance hinges on the trust issues between them (more on this in the next episodes) but it's hard to fall in love with someone when you think they are withholding if not outright lying about important information that you need.

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True. With that said, I just can´t wait for the Monday to come already!

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Really? I guess it really does depend on who views what...cause I feel the chemistry sizzling since the first episode. How interesting...

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It's pretty high concept still, and that's a good thing. I'm pretty sure I know who all the players are and what they're doing - and I even have an inkling why - and yet I'm still very interested in how this all unfolds.

I'm especially liking Seo In-gook, who has great screen presence. His characterization of David is very compelling. I'd like to see him stretch in his next role - I think he'd be great in a strong and complex role in a film.

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Share with us too!
Apart from the obvious, the team leader could also be the "guy"...

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:-) Okay

The seemingly most obvious: Lee Joon-Ho is Lee Joon-Young. Jung Sun-Ho is younger brother Min.

What can be reasonably inferred: Lee Joon-Young had help escaping from prison. He is also completely able to dispose of bodies so that there is never any evidence of his crimes (although somehow the chief prosecutor knew he had committed them.) So, let's say that he doesn't act alone.

What this inference and the high concept (are monsters born or made?) together imply: Someone is training "monsters".

And here is where it gets interesting: Was Lee Joon-Young a trained monster? Is Min now a trained monster? Or is, perhaps, Lee Joon-Young doing the training? Is Lee Joon-Young a 'good' character or a bad one? Did he save Lee Hyun?

And this is my guess: Lee Joon-Young will turn out to have been a 'good' character. Still a psychopath, but yet a force for good in Lee Hyun's life by rescuing him from being raised in a dungeon. And he will turn out to be the key in unravelling the mystery of the 'monsters'.

Back to the prosecutor: If he's fabricating evidence to lock up murderers, but is interacting with Jung Sun-Ho, is Jung Sun-Ho a spy from the monster world?

And Lee Hyun - why is he blanking on his past? And why was his father interviewing Lee Joon-Young at length? Did he have something to hide? I expect none of these people to be what they first seemed.

See? Really interesting. I think Lee Joon-Young is watching to see how Lee Hyun turned out. And I don't think he created Min (Jung Sun-Ho) into a monster. I suspect their monster traits both have the same progenitor. Remember the quote form Lee Hyun's book? A person becomes a criminal personality when natural traits encounter specific life conditions - you have to be predisposed to harm others and then nurtured into it. So, I think Lee Hyun is Lee Joon-Young's control group - what happens when someone with naturally criminal traits aren't nurtured - do they still turn into a criminal?

Fascinating.

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Oh, yeah, and there's a romance. :-) It's almost an afterthought with a background concept this good.

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Have to agree wholeheartedly that while it seems clear who are the baddies etc, the show still manages to insert a delicate detail here and there to keep the viewers interested. For example, how hurt, insulted even, Jung Sun-ho looked, when he heard Ji-an and Hyun talking at the prison. I´m totally on board, lol! So excited to see how it´ll all work out! Besides, the way how they handle "case of the week" procedures is truly rewarding. Not only do they emphasize some character traits or let us get a glimpse of someone´s past, they actually serve as a puzzle piece for the bigger picture. The more the clues, the more deliciously ambiguous it gets. Bring it on:)!

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The craziest theory I entertained is that Lee Jong-Young is part of the family--like the eldest brother. I know it's insane (cos it is) but it sorta made sense in a few ways. Like the dad's fear that one of his kids might be a psychopath could really just be because he already had one. And dad interviewing him could've been a lot more personal then, and JY's interest in the family more understandable. Plus, JY finding the house so easily could be explained too.

But then again, it's like especially unlikely for the family to have 3 sons all of whom have apparent personality disorders. Plus it doesn't totally jive with LJY's intro to LH, or dad's treatment of him. Now that I think of it, I suppose dad attacking him is a big sign otherwise.

Yeah it's definitely a crazy theory.

In the .1% chance it's true though, I'll claim credit.

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That theory is really interesting! Like you said it might be a bit of an overkill if all of the brothers had similar personalities that led them onto different paths in turn nurturing them into initiating and following contrasting lifestyles. I can hear the writers sorting out the pot to the fanfictions now.

One of my favourite things to do with these types of dramas is to read theories which is always a lot of fun when experiencing drama withdrawal. So thanks for piquing my interest because it is certainly a good scenario to fantasize about.

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I loved the look into Ji An's past and how it motivates her very different from Hyun?

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I´m so grateful that we finally got some "time alone with Ji-an". I mean, it was hard to get on board with a character that was most of the time up til´ now pretty much used only for laughs. The bickering between Ji-an and Hyun never really kicked in for me before, because you know she should be something more than that, but the information we were given only summed up to what? She´s hardworking, has messy sleeping habits, exhibits stalkerish behavior now and then, and oh, she´s not as intelligent as Hyun. Not much, right? But I´m really loving how they´re connection was explained this ep.

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This show keeps getting better and better.
I really wanna know the deal with Lawyer Jung and Joon-Ho.
There is something really creepy about Joon-Ho.
And why was Lawyer Jung upset that Hyun couldn't remember him? Who is he?? Is he little brother Min?
Thanks for recap dramallama! :)

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How can Lawyer Jung know that Hyun is his long lost brother if he's really Min tho?

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Honestly, I'm kind of wondering if Joon Ho and Min left that house together - like maybe Hyun sort of confided in Joon Ho and Joon Ho knew about and was interested in Min.

Basically a psychopath raising a psychopath.

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Thank you for the recap!
I really am enjoying this drama.
Everything is still veiled in mystery though, from Ji An, to Lawyer Jung (that I notice is very young for a lawyer, maybe he's a genius), and Team Leader Kang (especially the latter, his heodang-ness is suspicious).
But when it comes to drama like this, one law applies for all: expect the unexpected.
So, I'm looking forward for the next episode!

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I find Team Linder Kang to be fishy: I think is a lot smarter then everybody are thinking and he is playing some long game. As a matter of fact, I think almost everyone in this drama are hiding something and playing a long con. The young detectives, the lawyer, the pathologist....

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Agree... lack of trust, the real world indeed crazy like this, not all about cheesy drama exist in reality

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Ha, you beat by a second!

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oh.. atlast i am receiving recap... thanks you dramallama...

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Is it just me or is this drama unexpectedly awesome!? I cannot even quite put my finger on why, but of all the dramas I'm watching right now I think this is the one I look forward to the most and I really didn't expect it to be that way. I almost passed on it altogether but had to check it out because of Seo In Guk being so awesome and the DO cameo. I don't know what it is. Directing and writing I guess? It's just really good. It does a lot of little things very well, and the directing is super slick and pretty too. Maybe I'll be able to put my finger on it when all is said and done, but for now I'll just enjoy the ride and hope it doesn't crash down to earth.

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Same here, I´m enjoying it immensely, though I´m not quite sure what dose the trick for me here. Perhaps how it actually manages to be all in one? A crime thriller, comedy and romance?

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That's one of the things I like most, that I spend as much time laughing as I do being curious or creeped out.

The writing/directing/acting/music are all spot on right now, I'm hoping that they can keep it up for the run of the show, and then have a 2nd season. If you have a good detective show, you can run it forever, like Law and Order. Of course the ratings would have to go up for that to happen...

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I really hope they can keep up with the good work, though I think they have just the right amount of material for one season only. Maybe they can have the second season about Lil´Bro.

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YES!

The first 4 eps bit shaky and not so well written and directed. Maybe they forced Hyun's geniuses things too much and made the cop looks lame. But ep 5 and ep 6 is Great! No lame cops, no lame investigative scenes, and the comedy is still FUNNY. I lol at many scenes of Ji Ann, Team Leader Kang, and the three-muskeeters cops haha...

This show is wonderful at making me lol but a second later creeped and a second later my heart just beat for the romance. Such a roller coaster.

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well for me this is expectedly special.... :)

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oh!!! and awesome too!! :)

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I agree, although I'm not sure there really is something you can put your finger on. I personally just like the overall tone - it's like the show is it's own personality if that makes any sense. It's just really enjoyable right now.

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Let's hope the rest of Korea will finally get on board too...this drama is what I'm looking for the most in a week!

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i read here and there that this drama is popular online though but it's not translate into the rating. maybe people who watch this drama prefer to watch it online or rerun.

has million of buzzword (20 M) on SNS cr kkuljaem

has highest Content Power Index weekly around June 22- June 28 with 266.5 points surpassing other programs

no. 1 drama top 20 for week 26th (online opinion quotient of korean television programs) from huffington post

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Thanks for these numbers. I reached 5 and 6 last night and couldn't figure out why the ratings were low in Korea--this is an awesome show. Reminds me of our US procedurals, mixed with a slowly bubbling romance, which is fine by me. I really believe his question to her at the end of 6 (no spoilers) is a key for him to trust her more and let those feelings grow.

I guess it's because it's going against an established historical drama, as well as the remake of In Time w You? (love both of those actors but found the story a little slow after comparing it to this, ha). I just had this fear that someone at KBS will make a knee jerk decision because of lower ratings and decide to cut episodes. Which would be a shame for such a great show--well scripted, beautifully directed, and great acting.

By the way, I like Jang Nara generally, loved her Baby Face Beauty role and others (couldn't finish Mr Back though). But that persona gets a bit tiresome. Love the feistiness and cursing here, lol. Oh and her fantastic vulnerability talking to the prisoner about her father and her scarred childhood due to the false accusations. Just great.

Seo in Guk is always great in my opinion. Just a guy with some natural acting talent who works hard. Always have loved his facial expressions in his dramas. Toned down here because of the role, but the micro expression at her hiccups in the closet was fantastic. Very natural.
Not to mention he's a gorgeous young man in this role.

Lee Chun Hee is a hoot. Very handsome but what a doofus! Don't watch Korean variety but looked up the Family Outing episode where he washed the radish with soap. LOL! Can't look at him without laughing now.

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Still loving this show. I don't know what it is but the overall tone just really works for me. I admit that I couldn't 100% follow the case they were working on (they spelled it out at the end but it still took me a second), but it's ok cause I still really like all the other parts. I do think they've made it fairly obvious who our players are but I also think (unless they're just toying with us) that the point is not in who is who but more in how things unfold.

I like all the players in this game. While I would call our leads romantic, I think they're more....profoundly curious about each other. I think our lead doesn't have a conventional brain/personality so naturally any possibility of a relationship is going to be unique. I still like the police team. Team leader Kang is especially growing on me.

I'm curious on people's thoughts on bang brother. I think it's definitely hinted at that he's the animal killer and psychopath, but I don't entirely get that from his flashbacks with hyun. He's manipulative, that's for sure, but....he still seems to care about his brother. At least that's the sense I get. Like he seemed genuinely sad when his brother was locked away. I'm not saying that negates being a killer but I think his childhood hints at him being more complex than a psychopath. Or was it something that pushed him to just being a psychopath. Sorry that was worded terribly. My brain is dead from work.

Also I'm rather enjoying the bits of Lawyer Jung. I had no idea it was going to be this kind of role...I'd only seem him in Cantabile which was quite different. He's very charasmatic. I can definitely see how it would be easy for him to get away with things.

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A psychopath can have his own sort of love - it's not exactly a love we'd wholly understand, but it can look the same. They're not all narcissists, for instance.

It's very possible that Min loved his brother largely because his brother protected him, but also recognized that Hyun could blow the lid off this thing and so also manipulated their father. To be honest I sometimes wonder if Min killed their father somehow, because the father was somewhat disengaged and locked up Hyun.

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The way CJA gets out of the closet with a casual "It's me, Cha Ji An" really cracked me up.

What's going on between our leads right now is all I've ever wanted from a drama. It's the perfect amount of romance for me. I really want them to trust each other and become partners (it's English for comrade btw) before progressing into something else.

Thanks for the recap!

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I like how they can communicate without speaking, like in the closet and when they were doing good cop/bad cop.

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I agree with @nahaluk, with everybody being suspicous. Especially the young detective (young moon shik from healer) when he omitted the fact that he was one of the first people to be in the crime scene when Hyun asked for the people present. And i didn't think Jang Nara and Seo In-gook would have chemistry but boy i was wrong!

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Right! That part! He´s weird enough. I mean, what´s with flaunting dotted sweaters (plus a big fat heart) at a crime scene?

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Also unexpectedly loving this show, and really looking forward to it each week.

There isn't much on the romance front yet, but this week was definitely a huge push forward. Can I also say that from his childhood it's obvious that when Hyun loves/likes/cares about someone, he takes care of them? Cleans up after them, cooks for them, etc. He seems to do that here in this episode. Pretty cute, I thought!

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Yeah, except he realized he was treating her just like his younger brother!

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I guess we really have to be patient when in comes to romance. For now it only amounts to little bits and pieces like Hyun letting Ji-an to tend to his wound and carrying her to bed, though he sort of changed his mind half way through, ha. I kind of feel sorry for Ji-an, like, you really had to pick that guy? He´ll always see blood stains before he sees you. But it´s nice to see them getting closer. I had to pick my jaw up from the floor when Hyun asked Ji-an, what she thinks of this case, while they were looking at the stars. Really? You want to know what she thinks? Like, you regard her as a "thinking person"? Yey!

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I feel pretty sure Hyun is playing like he doesn't remember or suspect who Ji An, Lawyer Min, or the Doctor are or could be...he's probably usings different events as opportunities to watch all of them because he knows/suspects. He probably denied knowing Lawyer Min because he seems to want some sort of acknowledgement. That Doctor is VERY suspicious and Hyun knows it. He didn't have to go there to check the body in person. Ji An...he definitely searched her house either when he cleaned it or before she got there.

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yup.. i also think that hyun knows little bit about the doctor, lawyer and ji an too... but he pretend not to recognize them in order to access more information about his past, their purposes... he is also playing games with people around him... this is my personal opinion.. it can be wrong... :)

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Poor Min, he looked heartbroken when his hyung claimed he couldn't recognize him! More and more I am convinced that shady lawyer is Min and the forensic scientist is Joon Young. I hope Min doesn't do something stupid just to get his hyung's attention. He looked peeved at Ji An's statement.

I like and appreciate how smart the detectives are on this team! For once, there is no dumbing down the police officers just to make Hyun shine. It's refreshing to see the police do their jobs like they are supposed to do.

Now we've finally gotten Cha Ji An's back story, the motivations for her actions finally make sense. Since she was also one of Joon Young's indirect victims, I wonder if that is why the forensic scientist seems close to her as well. So he can keep an eye on her, just as he is keeping an eye on Hyun? He must have known what she looked like, her father had a picture of her in his locket. I'm guessing Joon Young probably took it when he killed the guards and hid their bodies.

Anyone else getting Alfred Hitchcock vibes from this drama? The setting and music reminds me of many of his movies.

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Yup, what I like is that everyone gets to be smart in their own way.

About Lawyer Jung whom we think is Min, I have to watch that part again, but I felt the emotion was more anger than heartbreak. I notice that most comments refer to is as being sad, but I did not get that at my first watch.

You've got an interesting point about that forensic expert. If he is interested in the 'children' who were his victims, even indirectly, it would be possible that he has placed himself so that he can observe them. But it's such a creepy thought!!!

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Thank you for the recap, dramallama! I wouldn´t worry about Hyun not having any emotions, besides being excited when he´s right, when he gets a new bit of evidence and so on. The whereabouts of his humanistic heart are a little mysterious, but it´s obvious that catching Lee Joon-young means more to him than an intricate mind game for like-minded people. I really liked the Gatsby quote, though for me it didn´t feel like a justification.

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By the way, any thoughts on Hyun´s intensive bad cop act? Was that inspired by the guilt he´s been harboring himself over the years?

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I wish my Korean was better because I'm pretty sure there was nuance in what he said that didn't translate properly. He's either needling Ji An or genuinely opening up more than he meant to.

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My Korean is pretty much non-existent, so whatever the nuance was, it´s lost on me. It might be both, though at first I thought he got carried away more than he intended, but later when Ji-an asked about it, he had his usual smug smile on that it felt like we´re back to square one again.

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I thought he was pretending to act as bad cop, but he actually lost control a little. If I remember correctly, he was talking about the son getting revenge for the father, which he himself is feeling a little? Either SIG is really good at showing those layers or I'm reading too much into it.

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I've watched this episode and the next and I don't feel like the romance is forced at all! They're uber cute together hahaha

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"uber cute"

Yas! So agree with you! Their romance feels organic and not forced at all. Just the right amount with the mystery.

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I think the reason why the romance seems one-sided is becausr that's how LH's characterization is...the type who doesn't really care or bother about romance. I think it's safe to say that based on characters with similar background or characterization, Hyun probably never had a serious romantic relationship before, but seeing he is a grown-up man, he probably has had flings before...so maybe we'll see the usual cameo of an ex-fling who will make CJA jealous hahahahahaha XD As for LH taking care of JA like the way he used to do for Min, I'm sure we'll get more romantic gestures in the future. After all this is just episode 5. I can totally name a few with delayed romance in the plot...not to mention first kisses only at the end of a series. Anyway, I'm sure the chemistry will spike up soon :)

Now for the case, I love the subplot as well. I enjoy how they revealed about it and how it mirrors to JA and Hyun's own experiences. And the ending to it? The father giving up the petition perhaps in exchange for the son to be put to the same prison, which as far as I know is not allowed...of course, unless you pull some power strings, which as recapped is what happened here. And the ending of the episode? Chills! Unlike PDY who had his father left (so even had the slightest chance to be with him, his sole living family), JA and Hyun have no other family left (at least that's what they think...although, I doubt JA's dad is alive?). And they have been coping with the fact in opposite ways...LH constantly imagining his family there, which is perhaps his bottling his own emotions...and JA constantly chasing LJY to clear her father's name, which is perhaps what she feels like she needs to do before she can actually cry tears for his presumed and more likely death. But perhaps when it is revealed that Min is alive, maybe because of JA's family situation, it will just convince Hyun more to stay by her side...with the whole "I know it better than anyone else...how it feels to live life with a family of solely myself."...or something like that.

I also predict that the comment on JSH/most-likely-Min will definitely push him to do something to perk or irk Hyun. Although knowing a little of what happens in Ep 6, I am excited for more LH-JSH scenes! #bromanceALLtheWAYplease hahahahahaha

Sorry for the long comment :P

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BEST EP SO FAR!

Thank you dramallama for the recap, I always waited for the recap of this drama!

Shall I go shallow first? Just when I thought I had reached maximum adoration on SIG on ep 4, ep 5 proved me dead wrong. He is so good looking and full of charisma to the point that it's hard for me to follow/read the sub. That face, that facial expressions, and eyes, and lips, oh I could just go on and on. He was cute as a highschooler and mesmerizing as a prince but here he's drop dead gorgeous as a sexy profiler. Ok, Stop. Fan girl mode ends. Hehe...

Now, his acting. I mentioned before that Hyun's characterization seems bit inconsistent and contradictory. His past trauma should scarred him at some extent but adult Hyun is very well functioning in the society. Is this a hole in the writing? Or, is this something about SIG's projections on Hyun's characterization? Or, I just have to wait for the show to reveal more on Hyun's transformation from a traumatized child to this arrogant but endearing-and-warm-at-some-random-moment?

I still wait for the answer, but I must say that SIG's acting skill range really the highlight of that prison visit scene when Hyun got so intense and stormed out. This, and the comedy, and the romance, and the subplot, the parallel to our main plot story was done beautifully in this ep which made this the ep far better than the prev 4. 1 hour runs fast without any single second of boredom. PD-nim and writer-nim, please keep up the good work.

Now, MY HEART BEATS FOR THIS DRAMA!

Oh, finished ep 6 and it is as gooood. Yayyy!

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Really like your fan girl mode;)

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awww... thank you. I could write much much longer paragraph than that haha... thanks my sanity stopped me.

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SIG is getting better and better looking in each drama. And I'm amazed how his face perfectly fit in every role every image. Just with some change in dressing and hair, he's totally a different person. How can he be a 18-year old high schooler in 2014 and a 30-year old criminal profiler in 2015, and both images are so convincing

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Team leader's role is going lightly and funny, but i find him suspect, and the one team member who didn't include his name in the list was also fishy... lawyer and doctor have serious connection.... that was very interesting to see ..the smile on their faces... those were meaningfull.. actually they knows eachother very well.. but how??? i don't know... the drama is going immensly good... hope they keep the stuff same as they keep it till now...

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Thank you dramallama!

These are the notes I scribbled as I watched: 'Poignant, nice cinematography, time stopped for the son. How to live in the house where a murder took place or where one’s family died. Living with the dead. I want to laugh and cry with this show. Intense, well made, confident it will go forward well. Wonderful characterisation, no irritating characters, smart people all around. Another murderer caught in 2 episodes.'

That in a nutshell is what I think of this show. How I feel is positive... very positive and not just hopeful. This production feels right, it feels like it's being executed by a very sure hand.

I agree with the comments above on the pacing, the plot, the lovely funny parts, the serious undertone ... all working well to bring us from episode to episode with so far, extremely interesting and intelligent crimes/police work. And yes, as mentioned by others, these are not just fillers but they contribute to our growing understanding and knowledge of our team and open up more mysteries, answering some questions and piquing our interest to unravel more new puzzles.

SIG's portrayal of a 'special child with psychopathic tendencies' who's grown up and how he thinks and interacts differently is so good. He is still at the stage where most everything is a matter of calculation and balancing out give and take, but he has shown that he is able to step beyond that fixation, to give a little more without necessarily counting the cost and demanding a return. His slow 'mellowing' is what will keep me invested in his relationship with Ji An. On her part, how Ji An accommodates his idiosyncrasies and gets him to warm up (while in the midst of new cases) will also be a charming part of this show.

I love how the characters are written, and an eg. is how the police team are both utilized for the lighter moments as well as for the smart info gathering. Also each member of the team although playing a bit part, is given a distinct character/personality and they are slowly gaining respect for Team Leader Kang and becoming a closer team. What I look forward to, is not just Ji An and Hyeon's coming together but for the warmth of the police team to embrace Hyeon as well.

I believe the question of how our main protagonists (and the murderers we've been introduced to) live with their murdered dead is a theme that will continue to be played out. Do circumstances and how they converge make people psychopaths or killers or not. There has to be an in between being forgetful of the past or being actively destructive in the present. How do individuals go against the flow and move upstream or should they not rather go with the flow and deal with their past wholly and with acceptance.

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I came to this drama for Seo In-Guk - also intrigued by DO's excellent acting - and I'm still in it for SIG. The story is great and the pace is just right but I'm finding that Jang Na Ra doesn't feel right to me. I loved her in Fated to Love You with Jang Hyuk but she doesn't fit with In-Guk here. Or maybe it's just that I'm so blinded every time he comes onto the screen that her tiny body, face and mouth in comparison just make her fade into the background. I don't feel like I'm fingerling over Seo In-Guk, just seriously enthralled by his metamorphosis from a chubby Superstar-K winner to a legitimate singer and then actor and then, suddenly (so it seems) a beautifully chiseled man. That face of his is really amazing and his intensity (when he gets intense) is awesome. This young man has super-star written all over him. Let's sit back and enjoy!

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That's "Fangirling" - and NOT fingerling…..oh good grief I should proofread!

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LOL @ lunatic4kd

I'm glad you're enjoying Seo In Gook in this show. I agree that he is remarkably versatile. He can be a tall 'little' boy high schooler or a mature adult and carry it off with aplomb. He fits this role well, or maybe, most roles can fit him? :)

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Seriously the cinematography in this drama is so beautifull.

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Immensely enjoying this drama tho i'm still not into the romance part. I'm all here for the mystery. Well the plot as of now currently points out that the pathologist and the lawyer are the evil guys or something related to Lee Hyun's past. however im more intrigued with team leader kang and even the detectives. The show builds up for something big and i hope it doesnt disappoint.

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Loving this drama more and more.
Can see no trace of the sweet Lee Yoon-Ho that Park Bo Gum played at Tomorrow Cantabile. Lawyer Jung is like a 360 degree turn. He's really a good actor so I hope he'll get more projects.

His face when he heard Ji-an said that He probably isn't that important for Hyun not to remember him was just heart breaking. It's like someone just slapped him in the face.

So far, I'm loving this drama to its bits. And the scene where the son and the father met made me want o cry.
Now that we know where Ji-an is coming from, I can now completely understand why she followed Hyun arround.

The romance is starting to bloom. I hope Hyun shows more signs that he's really a human. Not just his occasional amusement and excitement 'cause it's really giving me the creeps.

Waiting for the ep 16 recap. <3

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I've been busy catching up with dramas I couldn't finish during the school year, but would you guys say this is worth the watch so far? :)

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I´m just contemplating here if I should watch ep 6 for the third time. I rarely re-watch, so that means "yes" for me.

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Haha wanting to re-watch is always a good sign! thank you!

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100%... i will recommend you.. you should go for it. till epi 6 it doesn't dissapoint me...

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thank you so much! will definitely be starting sometime this week:)

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I'm impressed by how the two lead actors make their age gap disappear in the drama. Seriously, can people really tell JNR is 6 years older than SIG?

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I really like this drama!
Lawyer Jung seems to be a really good lawyer. 'Good' as in able to make sure that his clients don't get a guilty verdict. It would be cool if he could really help Hyun, but I doubt that's gonna happen (and I don't mean help as in just being a lawyer for 1 case).

Btw, what does heodang mean? :/

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@ywcnois
Thanks to http://thefangirlverdict.com/glossary/ we have the meaning of heodang.

"Heodang: literally means “empty-head” and has the sense of someone who speaks without thinking, who might be smart but still says silly/funny/things that don’t make sense. Also described as innocent naïveté. "

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I called it, Lee Joon-Young is the Pathologist/Neighbor. Besides being the only one that I can think off that match his age ten years later. Its the hair, he is still sporting the same hair style.

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CSI and Sherlock fan here - and just like everyone else I'm totally amazed by the writing and directing esp in ep 5 & 6. The more amazing thing is that most Western series episodes are 1) written by teams 2) written at least a month in advance and takes maybe 2-3 weeks excluding the brainstorming 3) the episode takes a while to shoot when there are more interesting angles/direction

Given how Korean dramas are known to do everything on tight timelines/teams/smaller budgets, this is seriously impressive.

Go K drama all the way!

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Does the writer really write each ep script per week? And the actors and actresses receive the script only few days in advance? That's... wow!

I read in soompi that they started to live-filming since no prev in ep 6. Hope they still manage to keep the quality of IRY. Don't let me down, show, please.

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I'm really worried about the script now. Writer, please hold on to your original ideas, don't change the good work in favor of the rating. Please Please

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Film! In reply to the above-mentioned, to see SIG in an artsy solid and complex, award winning film is a dream for a self-confessed sig fan like me. I've not once been disappointed in any of his roles. Film is totally a genre i'm waiting for.

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*medium not *genre

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