Open Thread #377

1 redfox

January 9, 2015 at 6:11 AM

Hii

this time, I want to continue where we left off. Crushes. Except now the question is: have you ever daydreamed about, pictured to yourself the meeting with your crush, imagined it in your mind – talking to them, meeting them by chance somewhere etc. What you would do or say, what would happen ( not like the „I would helplessly scream, say „OMG I LOVE YOU!“ and faint into a puddle.“ Yes, we already know that´s how it would REALLY go. I am not talking about the miserable truth, I am talking sweet dreams!)

Because in dreams, anything is possible. Imaginary conversations, where everything works out perfectly and all the words come out of your mouth in an almost correct order. Good enough, right? No? But don´t the kdrama heroes like chicks who are clumsy, stuttering, but cute? Well, cute like a drunk penguin…Maybe it will help, if you imagine being drunk and then meeting your crush. Then it excuses word-slips? C´mon, it is not real, you can do all the embarrassing things you can imagine! And you can also drunk-confess your crushes, knowing they will put it on the account of alcohol, but it still affects them…just like the Healer was affected when Young-Shin unknowingly confessed her crush directly to him over the phone, thinking he was someone else. So pretend that you are clueless, drunk and jovial, and…

Or could we start actually SEEING our crushes in everyday situations and forgot the line between reality and fantasy? Like Gil Ra Im appearing before Joo Won in Secret Garden? TBH, there was a bit TOO much daydreaming in that drama. I rewatched bits to get a laugh, and it seems the writer actually must have been daydreaming and just put everything down asi t came. Or think of imaginary Cheon Song Ji making Do Min Joon jealous? Or any drama hero imagining seeing their crush everywhere they turn and hugging a pillow in frustration… Then… hide that soju. Or could it be the other way around? What if it is not you imagining it, but you are instead a product of THEIR imagination? Could we enter THEIR dreams? Become their imaginary friends? Accompany them to shopping mall, agency, red carpet and close that bathroom door, you dirty noona. But if I am imaginary, I can go anywhere, right? „Oh don´t worry, I didn´t actually break into your house, you are just daydreaming?“ hah.

Ah otoke. Will meeting someone you either had a crush on, or just admired for a long time, are grateful towards, want to give your thank you´s, or just desire to meet for whatever reason, ever be possible? In reality it will be so brief you´ll think you WERE dreaming, I bet. Cause such meeting, even if they miraculously happen, will later seem unreal. Impossible. But … we can create a world of fantasy… Hopefully we won´t start hallucinating about them in broad daylight. Although for the lack of a better alternative, I´d take the hallucination. I could even hallucinate somebody out of army service *wink wink* if the real thing is hopelessly stuck there. Really,...

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redfox

January 9, 2015 at 6:12 AM

Speaking of hallucinations, I just had time to catch up on some dramas I didn´t have time to see before. Like It´s Ok, That´s Love. It was fun, although I have issues with many things. Hae Soo being so stuck on the same questions over and over, and her mom being just too much too vicious. And just, you know, some details were like seriously off and it disturbed me, like every random person is a mental patient in the same hospital, and mental illness being basically received by everyone as worse than death or cancer, I mean the overdramatic reactions were too much. And continuity in spots just faltered. Like scars disappearing. And that there were no goddamn social workers doing their job when a man beats his wife!
But all was made up by the cuteness and warmth between the characters. Ok, this whole drama felt like a daydream of a love-deprived single she-male manga artist, somehow. So sugar-coated and kind of unbelievable, like it wasn´t reality. Or it was some meta by the writer, hinting that drama is still a fantasy in someones´ head first. Painted so pink, cause what we see comes from someones´imagination. Reminding us, that drama is not reality.

Or maybe it WAS all a dream, perhaps we imagined the whole thing? Perhaps even recaps are imaginary? Maybe this drama didnt exist? How many times do we think that about our own lives… I am just dreaming! What is real? But that´s why we love daydreaming and wish our life was a little more of what we can imagine, and a little less plain reality. We let dreams carry us away. And maybe that makes us a little disconnected from life sometimes. And wouldn´t we wish that our companions would treat us like someone from a fantasy novel?
How to make wishes come true and sweet dreams into reality? Or is just dreaming enough?

I am not sure I could handle a character like Soo Kwang in real life though. Not even in a dream! He was criminally cute and funny, CRIMINALLY! Some things are better imaginary - if he´d visit my dreams, my liver would explode. But the trouble is, Kwang Soo IS real. Probably. I wouldnt be able to imagine a person like that.
But why was I smiling all the time? It was the pretty, the pretty! Truthfully, sometimes Hae Soo said annoying things and kind of irked my nerves, but she was ultimately so pretty too. Although they should both check into a mental hospital for anorexia. They are WAY too thin. On the other hand, with the smiling and sweetness it got pretty damn close to Stepford wives creepy aura, which was a different kind of „dreamworld“.

Omo…OMO! there is a weird thing on Dramacool – „ROOMMATE FROM THE STARS“ ????? Huh? Did I fall into a treehole and go to Christmas Town? Whose fantasy is this? Some sort of fan fiction??? OMG it is Jae Yeol´s new hallucination-roommate from the stars, Do Min Joon? Seriously, who did this and was he on drugs? But this is awesome! Putting these two things together gawd, I am dying. Hahahaa ….see? see, where daydreaming...

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thursdaynexxt

January 9, 2015 at 6:42 AM

Hahahaha, yes, Roommate from the Stars (on YT) was a perfect mash-up, and timed to a tee! KSH's reactions were pretty priceless too, but I wished JIS had been there too, to share the moment!

Yay for some good craziness from a major station!

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Wag_a_Muffin

January 9, 2015 at 7:31 AM

Does anyone know where I can find past mash-ups? I know they do them at the awards show and I was wondering if older ones are available anywhere.

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Wag_a_Muffin

January 9, 2015 at 6:32 PM

I found this one of the 2013 SBS awards--a heirs mash up. Anyone find any others? http://www.allkpop.com/article/2013/12/2013-sbs-drama-awards-edit-heirs-to-make-kim-woo-bin-and-lee-min-ho-the-main-love-line

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 7:19 PM

Is that SBS Heirs cut shown anywhere with subs?

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redfox

January 9, 2015 at 7:49 AM

ah so that´ what it was!

So. Sometimes daydreaming can give us great / insane ideas and put the pieces of a puzzle in our brain in the right spot, when writing a story or designing or solving everyday problems….isnt it normal, really? … I must say, my imagination is often so vivid, I picture myself in a situation and I might laugh or cry on the street, mumble under my nose, wave my hands, not pay attention or bump into lamp posts, cause I a min a different place in my mind. Potential skizo alert here. No, actually, it sound pretty bad, but it is just that my thoughts are very active. I cannot stop imagining stuff and thinking of different life scenarios. Maybe I am disconnected from reality. I often talk to myself and giggle and stuff. …what, you don´t? Why are you all looking at me like that with a syringe in your hands?

Then, I´d be satisfied with meeting even just a hallucination of my biggest idol Tim Burton. As long as it doesn´t appear as a headless horseman and chase me in the woods… it could happen.

The other day I thought I honestly WAS hallucinating though, I saw this Jaguar and it was XK from 1954 and I just, and I let out this noise – this NOISE that was neither human nor animal and my feet went limp, and I reached hands towards it and IT JUST VANISHED. Ah noooo. Should I bump into another lamppost in hope to see this vision again? *bump*. It doesn´t work. Now I see nothing. Now I am looking at a Pinterest board of vintage Jags and going „Guuu guu guuguu guu! Yaaayaayaa! Buuuuuuu!“ HELP….ME….

Some people I most often imagine meeting…just cause they are awesome and have played a huge part in my life, sometimes being my lifeline with a song or a thought when I was having a hard time, saving me from a really dark spot. They are… they are… but I can´t tell you. I just can´t. I am embarrassed. We need like a SECRET CONFESSION BOX where you can drop an anonymous letter or something, when you cant say it but need to get it out. And there could be a Daily Confession and everyone would be able to do a guessing game who among us said it.

Oh, But I CAN tell you, what I imagine it would look like, if my imaginary alter ego (an actual fox) would imagine-meet the Great ninja Teacher Lee Jun Ki. He would think: „Weird. Suspicious. I go to the right…this fox too goes to the right. I turn left, this fox turns left. I go straight, fox goes straight. It copies everything I do! Is it a stalker? Is it a stalking vampire pirate fox with a paralyzing toxin in its spit that will turn me into a zombie who bites his own legs off? Creeeepy! Hey, fox, shoo! Shoo!“ Fox doesnt move, but keeps staring, wearing a red headband and a black scarf. Great Ninja teacher slowly back away and calls the dog catchers, cause hei s actually a delicate idol boy. Fox: I was just trying to leaaaarn! *Sigh* I need to be more positive. Look, I really need to learn stuff like fighting halluci…I mean ghosts, and run along the rooftops and fight tortured villains. Or torture villainous...

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redfox

January 9, 2015 at 6:12 AM

Then. Valid Love. This drama has started to feel like walking on pin needles or hot coal. I don´t want to hurt my feet, stepping in. Some aspects of it… I never understood how people get a thrill from walking on hot coal, but now I can´t resist either. How can they take the first step? How do some of them actually walk slowly? You have to be an old yogi not to just run over quickly. And then you need to let out stress, squeeing. And then you go back like the addicted idiot you are! Cause that old yogis´apprentice is just so handsome… and you really want to impress him with your …ok, nonexistent pain tolerance. Hey, I am a redhead, it takes me half a day for the pain to pass when I hit my toe on something, two days, if my finger gets pricked by a large needle. And a month before a burn stops hurting. I feel the same about Valid Love. I need a recovery period. I can´t even watch two episodes on consequtive days. All the more so cause the words in every characters´mouth have so much weight, that the viewer almost feels crushed under it. It is So. Good. But I feel like ultimately, we are still going to get burned. I am not sure if everyone will safely get to the other side.

Wannabe ninja out. Stage is yours. Imaginary conversations, dream-dates with your crushes, idols or quilt ridden hallucinations, and imaginary future Healer training sessions START!

Believe it or not, I am afraid of the happy ending I imagine the writer is hinting at right now. I don't want them to split nicely and find 2 soulmates so easily. It wouldn't fit, it would be an easy way out, totally different from what the show was before. Maybe I'm wrong though and that's not the plan.

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redfox

January 9, 2015 at 7:11 AM

On oceans and plastics...maybe I've become so incredibly weak hearted now. I still cringe at how most of my friends buy water bottles to drink for their whole family instead of investing in a water filter for their tap water. Back when I was young I'd stand on a soap box relentlessly lecturing how much trash we're contributing by doing that. Now I can't even say a word. America and plastic bottles...why don't we care? why? *but this then will get me so depressed for the whole week...ugh...*

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redfox

January 9, 2015 at 8:02 AM

Nomad, I hurt myself so bc of the trash issues, I try to open peopls eyes and they dont care and I feel the same way as you, depressed, hopeless, just this close to give up alltogether. it is hard to swallow all the setbacks. you think things are starting to change, and then it drops back a lightyear.

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harmonyfb

January 9, 2015 at 6:55 AM

In real life, I would be painfully conscious of the awkwardness of meeting someone who you are not at all acquainted with, but about whom you know a great deal.

If one of my favorite K-drama actors wandered into my workplace, I'd know they were on vacation (I live in a beach town) & I'd probably try to treat them as any other tourist.

yeah, me too, I would talk, maybe goof off like blow soap bubbles on the balcony and sing.
also, it would be good if I can meet a crush who can play a guitar and sing. private concert *goggle eyed* That would be a dream come true.

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Bea

January 16, 2015 at 3:54 PM

Hi redfox!
I completely agree with you there. I like the actors because they make us love the characters. So it's all about the characters and the story. I fantasize that heaven is where God will let me be the lead in all of my favorite dramas :-)
It's the escape from this reality. But as you implied earlier, for all we know we are currently part of a bigger drama that's being produced on a grand scale... I think Shakespeare said as much :-)

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AJK

January 10, 2015 at 8:33 AM

Much more a character/script person than an actor person -- I pretty much actively avoid knowing too much about an actor since I don't want any baggage to come between me and the story (Iris -- I'm looking at you -- well no I'm not -- not any more).

I'm far more likely to get a "crush" on the writer and ask him or her to dinner.

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harmonyfb

January 10, 2015 at 1:39 PM

I pretty much actively avoid knowing too much about an actor since I don’t want any baggage to come between me and the story

Oh, man, how I know where you're coming from on that. I have several actors whose work I can't enjoy any more because I know what jerks they are in real life (Mel Gibson, I am looking directly at you.)

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 6:32 PM

Honestly I don't think I'd want meet any celebrities. I live in NYC and I'm totally in the mode where when you see a celebrity you act like their just a regular person. I actually have a Korean friend who worked in the industry (low down on the pole) but she has a few celebrity friends and f course has word with other, and her friends know others...and yeah, I've had some fun daydreams where I go to Korea and end up having dinner with my friend and some celebrities. But it's completely a daydream. I've even told her flat up that when I visit I don't want to meet her friends. She laughed and asked me why and I was just like....um, because it would be awkward? What would I say? I don't speak Korean. I'm sure their English is not that fluent. And really....daydreams are nice, but I'll stick to the every day. Plus even in my daydream my dorky awkward self comes out. I can't actually imagine an encounter going well. So much for the strength of my imagination.

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January 9, 2015 at 6:11 AM

Happy Friday Beanies!

This has been not the greatest start to 2015. I’m still very sad about the shootings in Paris. I was born there and know many people still there so it’s hitting me extra hard. I’ve also picked up a second job for a few weeks and am running low on energy. Small complaint. But I’m still trying to keep up on my shows! I’m lucky that one of the jobs allows me to watch some shows while working. Decent amount of down time. And this week has been a lot about catching up, since I got very far behind during the holidays. On to the drama thoughts:

PRIDE & PREJUDICE: So this was my marathon catch up show this week. I watched 5 or 6? And now I’m finally up to speed! Anyone else keeping up with this? And man, great ending to this last episode. Things got a bit slow in the middle and I know there are certain levels I’m missing with their lawyer talk, but I’m still enjoying this show. There are a lot of tidbits they worked into this that keep coming back and it’s nice to feel that some shows really do plan things out. I also am still enjoying the side couple as a bit of a breather from all the heavy stuff – can’t wait for Choi Woo Shik to play lead soon. I especially laughed in the one scene where he gets frustrated and complains that all his cases always end up being related, lol. Yep, our thoughts as well! Although honestly it seems like they’ve pretty much dropped every other case in their office. Chief Moon really does just dominate in his scenes. I love his constant back and forth and scheming but despite the cliffhanger, I’m sure his full motives won’t be known until the very end. And Lawyer Jung!!!! Please no. Ahhh! I want him to explain this sudden shift in personality and his thoughts and….give me some reconciliation! Oh my angst-y heart. I don’t really care about the main romance, but I still do like the overall dynamics of the main three. And cute Chan! I am still baffled by why they had to choose this title though. Oh! And the one thing she wanted to do was go to the Ferris Wheel for their date…this seems like a big thing in the kdramas I’ve been watching.

DETECTIVES OF SEONAM: Anyone watching this? I wouldn’t be surprised if nobody is. It’s very weird. It’s tackling a lot of heavy subjects though – and pretty rapidly. Mostly I watch and feel baffled, but I do seem to keep coming back to it.

AFTER SCHOOL (Season 2): Well, the second half wasn’t quite as gross and awful as the first half but it still was completely lacking the charm of the first season. Also the episodes started to get longer and longer. I’d like to keep one short show on my viewer’s list though. Any recs? I’ve only seen this and Love Cells.

FROST: Caught up! It’s getting better. I’m happy now that they’re delving a little more into their personal lives and backgrounds. It does seem like they sort of put the evil cell phone mastermind on hold for this last episode. I do think their grasp of psychology is lacking, but I’m overall starting to...

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john

January 9, 2015 at 6:44 AM

4D ~

DETECTIVES OF SEONAM. I'm watching it. Is it a one episode a week ?

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 6:56 AM

Yep, it's one episude a week.

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Because of Reasons

January 9, 2015 at 6:56 AM

I started the first episode of Seonam High School Investigators. (It was part of my pilot testing the first half of various first episodes to see which shows I'd pick up, especially since I'm cutting back on my drama watching in an effort to be more productive in the new year.) Anyway, I couldn't get a good feel for the vibe/intent of the show, so I decided to put it on the back burner to get back to once it's finished airing.

Instead I picked up the light and fluffy Sweden Laundry; watching Sweden Laundry reminds me, in a good way, of reading a fun, silly not-very-complex YA novel.

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 7:55 AM

I can't blame you for dropping/pausing Seonam. It's been for episides now and I still don't have a good grasp on the sum or tone of the show. It's bizarre but I keep watching anyway. Being just once a week helps though.

January 9, 2015 at 7:45 PM

Pride and Prejudice sometimes drives me nuts because it has those great episodes where everything comes together, and those great cliffhangers, and YES to the hilariousness that is Choi Woo Sik, and Lee Tae Hwan is a brand-new discovery of unbelievable K-drama goodness...

BUT, the plot this week looking undecided on where to go or how to get there. So then I get annoyed, because I'm like, Look, there's this other show, Healer, that's figured out how to be logical and make sense. Can't you just try? (But P&P made sense up to ep 10.)

LOL, I'd be a terrible mom, I'd be like, look at your sister, why can't you be more like that?

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 8:00 PM

Lol, Healer seems to have just blown all the shows out of the water in terms of favorites. And yes mom, it's not good to play favorites and compare ;) I think the episodes may make more sense when the full picture is revealed...although it may not. Lol. I think part of my issue with this show is that a lot of how I feel is going to depend entirely on how things reveal themselves next week.

Yay for more Choi Woo Sik love!!! And yes, I think Lee Tae Hwan was a great discovery. I watched the After School seasons just because I liked him so much in this (which was why I was extra disappointed in their second season, sigh). I'm hoping this leads to even better thigns for him. He's SO young which means he has some time to build his resume but I think he has a ton of potential. (I'm honestly still in shock over his age..)

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January 9, 2015 at 6:12 AM

Drama thoughts part 2:

HEALER: Well, I’m sure there’s nothing left to say after the enormous threads on this show but I’m really enjoying this show and how it brings out the best of a couple different genres. I’m also very happy that Moon-Shik is starting to have more layers. I still wish there was a way for him and Moon-Ho to make-up in the end. I have a tender spot for brothers this year with all these kdramas – and they’re milking it for all it’s worth. I also like that I can’t necessarily see where things are going. And that cliffhanger. So nervous about what Moon-Ho will do now…as well as being curious about Healer’s findings. Also, please maintain at least one cute scene in each episode…we’re in double digit territory now which usually means some angst and I’m not ready for it without some cute to break it up. I do think it’s a bit iffy for you to be in love with a guy you’ve never really met, and also to be ok with him kissing you…but I’m willing to ignore that.
SAM SOON: Well, technically I have one episode left but it will be finished today so I’m just going to post now. I wanted to make sure I finished this before Jekyll started because I try not to overlap shows with the same actors (does that make me weird?). This seems to be THE classic and I wanted to watch it. Honestly though I have very mixed emotions. I really don’t understand the relationship dynamics. I really do like Sam Soon but I admit that even though I’m routing for her, because she’s the lead….I don’t really understand why the other couple didn’t happen. In all other circumstances it would not be Sam Soon who I was routing for. The girl was sick and was told by her mother-in-law to not say anything and just leave (so yay, sick and alone) and then she comes back and does everything right and still…eh. And Sam-Shik really does just mess with them both so badly that he’s kind of a jerk. But Hyun Bin is so charming in all his roles (and somehow he does often play charming jerks) that I still like him. There are a lot of cute moments but because of the second lead female storyline it really also doesn’t sit well with me in a lot of areas. But I’m still happy with them as a couple and like their scenes together.
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I wanted to watch the beginning of Kill Me, Heal Me but the only legal site I saw it on was viki and subs were at 92% so I’ll hold off for a minute. The last time I watched a show in the 90% range I thought “oh, it’s close enough to 100%” and then sure enough in the most crucial scene there were not subs lol.

Also there are far too many shows that I kind of want to check out this weekend, provided there are good venues to watch it on. 2015 you already are killing me with so many shows!! Heart-to-Heart, Spy, and Persevere Gu Hae-ra…what’s a girl to do?!

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Elle

January 9, 2015 at 6:44 AM

Re:Sam-Soon. So I'm one of the bes who loved it to pieces and it's an all time fav. As far as why Sam-shik choosing Sam-soon, there are two choices. Accept the show's premise and believe he just had a change of heart or suspend your beliefs and just go with it. I don't believe the show's premise is that far fetched. Even though he appeared to have waited 3 yrs for Hee-Jin to come back, three yrs is a long time and he may have let go in that time even if he didn't feel it or admit it. Maybe holding onto her b/c a crutch and when Sam-soon barreled into his life, he was ready to let someone in. He didn't expect it to be Sam-soon, no one did, but sometimes you love who you love.

But yeah, he was definitely a jerk but where would drama land be without a cold-chaebol-turned-sweetheart.

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Elle

January 9, 2015 at 6:48 AM

Excuse typos, on the iPad & it sucks.

I meant I'm one of the ones who loved it.

It should also be *chose, not choosing.

And holding onto her *became a crutch.

Sheesh.

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 7:06 AM

No worries, I'm on my phone at work and the autocorrect hates me so I completely understand.

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 7:04 AM

Oh I don't think it's far-fetched, but this is clearly not real anyway so I'm trying to figure out the writing to sm extent. I can completely see him moving on from her...even with the background excuse she left him in his time of need for three years without contact. But he dies take her back and acts like it's all good...until he doesn't. He just seems like he really strings both of them along in so many ways.

I'm used to the chaebol trope but usually they're a jerk to just one girl and they end up with her in the end. Here it seems deeper, like there's some serious mind games and emotional manipulation with both women.

I did like it overall even though I dint think that's coming across well lol. But yeah, I feel like normally the supporting character would be more like a lead and would get the guy. I mean she gets Henry (who's waaaaaay to nice and understanding lol), but....um, I'm so inarticulate today. Sigh.

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Elle

January 9, 2015 at 7:26 AM

Hmmm, interesting. When I watched it I felt like he went back to Hee-Jin in part b/c he was always going to and in part b/c he found out abt her illness. I thought his angry act was just an act and once he found out abt the cancer it was even harder to admit his feelings changed. I didnt feel like he was too jerky to Hee-Jin after they got back together, but my memory is not the greatest. I probably have to rematch.

I thought she was the jerk--to him, to Henry and even to Sam-soon. Poor, ridiculously hot Henry. I also didn't like Sam-soon feeling like he was her last chance in life. That kinda annoyed me but overall I liked her.

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Elle

January 9, 2015 at 8:01 AM

@oftheshore--No rotten fruit from me.

Maybe I should back up a bit. I don't like the cold jerk trope. In fact, I kinda hate it but it is embedded in the the dramaverse so I just go w/it. Which is why I have the same complaint every time--I always like the second lead & never understand why any woman would reject someone who legitimately cares abt her for a jerk. I don't like being treated badly and finding someone who worships little ol' me will never be looked down on in my book.

So Sam-shim should have been slapped and sent packing. He was really quite horrid to Sam-soon but apparently kdrama characters let go of those things a lot faster than I can so I was happy she got her man in the end.

@4D---I too hate the way they handled Sam-soon' confidence level and the general way Kdramas handle weight and age. I'll probably start ranting so I'll just say that I just remind myself to take it with a grain of salt. It's just a show I tell myself but I'll be glad when this issue starts getting a generally more modern spin.

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Elle

January 9, 2015 at 8:02 AM

Oops, that went in the wrong place, lol. I'm sure you two will get my drift though.

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 8:04 AM

I think he went back to her in part for the illness but not because he felt bad for her but instead that he suddenly realized why she left and couldn't be angry at that. I think he was a jerk to Hee-Jin because he said they could be together again and then spent all this time sneaking behind her back with Sam Soon. He knew he was essentially cheating. I think she was sometimes mean to him in return but mostly outbid frustration... She was gone for three years bating cancer and thinking of him and she comes back only to be constantly confronted with him hiding truths and spending time with another woman.

He also have so many mixed signals. Who washes someone's feet while they're breaking up and then hugs them tightly? It's so emotionally manipulative. Look you can't really be mad at me cause I'm being so nice even though I've basically been seeing two women at the same time.

I think she wasn't very nice to Hebry either but she did say up front that she was not interested in him...and he decided on his own to follow her to Korea. I do think she's pretty awful to Sam Soon...but again, she's the other woman...would you be nice?

I actually don't particularly like Hee-Jin. I find her bland and her choices are not ones I would make so it was hard to relate to her on any real level.

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 7:53 AM

Oh I forgot the violent part! I watched that scene a while ago so it wasn't fresh in my mind.

I haven't watched Valid Love because it didn't seem like my kind of plot. I think perhaps, at least for me, there are just certain people who are more charming and therefore get away with things in life. I hate that it seems that way but I think it's true. I've seen girl stay with guys who do things that the girls would have never accepted from anyone else. There's a different presentation...and probably hormones as well. And obviously these shows are fantasy. We imagine Sam Soon with have that sweetheart loyal chaebol husband even though his past actions actually indicate that he more than likely won't be like that. People change but not at their core.

January 9, 2015 at 8:09 AM

Kill Me, Heal Me - ep 1 was one of the best 1st episodes I've seen in a long time. Twin Ohs are alredy my favorite brother and sister pair. I fell in love with Park Seo Joon in Witch's Romance, and he came on so strong in the airport scene. Plus the reunion of Ji Sung and Jung-Eum after Secret, well - I am so in. the multiple pesonality disorder - 7 pesonalities in the character Mr Cha - I think Ji Sung will pull it off. Bonus: ms Husky played by Kim Yoo Ri and the crazy is off the charts!

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shaynanigans

January 9, 2015 at 10:52 AM

Anther cameo....
I'm pretty sure it's Kan Mi-youn who plays the girl who throws her drink in his face and later water-tortures him.

January 9, 2015 at 9:11 AM

I also had a really hard time buying the main couple in Sam Soon. The actors had tons of chemistry, but I never quite believed that either character would make the choices they did, and I wasn't entirely sure that I wanted them to. Do you really want to root for a tough but insecure woman to fall for someone with a tendency towards verbal abuse?

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January 9, 2015 at 8:02 PM

Yeah he had some really bad moments. And doesn't he like punch the wall next to her head in one scene? On the other hand, he also gets hit a TON in this show as well by the two women but also his mother. I know it's somewhat cultural...lots of kdramas have the guy telling the girl to hit him until she feels better....but it just all feels wrong for me. I'm really never ok with hitting.

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January 9, 2015 at 6:16 AM

*Agsgsgdgkklkfsrgvnfsnkts *
Translated by couch-kimchi.com Jung Hoo asks Moon Ho if he knew what happened in 1992. Moon Ho tells him, “If you let me see your face, I’ll answer all your questions.”

Secretary Oh tells Moon Shik that someone is investigating the car accident case.

Detective Yoo tells Young Shin that Healer is a suspect of at least two murder cases.

Young Shin says, “Healer-nim, I want to meet with you. Consider this as my invitation.”

Moon Ho says, “The eyes are alike, are you Jung Hoo?”

Lu

January 9, 2015 at 12:13 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!

Honestly, I'm having a REALLY ROUGH WEEK since I live in Paris and with all the things that are happening right know I'm really on edge. There was a hostage taking close to my house. So frightening.

So with this preview, you just LITERALLY made my day !!
The fingers crossing... And Moon Ho knows !!!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHH !!!!
HEALER I LOVE YOU !!! .<)

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January 9, 2015 at 7:49 PM

Oh, sweetie, what a terrible week in Paris! It's the news everywhere. Stay safe and think about Healer.

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January 9, 2015 at 7:28 PM

Gaaah, that hand hold! *melts into a puddle*

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January 9, 2015 at 6:20 AM

@growingbeautifully, here's the countdown :70 hours left for episode 11. ♥ ?
Every one, to help y'all wait for Monday and get through real life, ( it's haaaaard), here's an amazing blog :jichangwookkitchen.com where a couple of bloggers have translated ji Chang wook's KBS and MBC Awards speech and his recent interview (the interviewer got to touch and measure his shoulders *jealous glare * anyway, 50 cm - that's how broad his shoulders are, ha!)

Ps. Isn't yoo ji tae amazing at acting out his scenes? That scene where he talks to his hyung after the elevator almost- accident, SO intense. I cry each time I watch that scene. It's a perfect transition from anger to helplessness
Also, I feel attached to the secondary characters, the awesome dad, the guy who works with him and always screams :hyungniiiiiim. And Ahjumma too. When she swears :D

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January 9, 2015 at 6:58 AM

@ Saema and Lixie

Hi there you two,
Healer Episode 11 Countdown: Yes it's now into 70 hours and counting. Thanks Saema!

So far, the supporting characters as well as main characters have been great. It's been a very satisfying 10 episodes with a lovely cliff hanger in both the romance department and the investigation into various truths/back stories department. So compelling at this stage that all of us Healer Beanies are hanging on together trying to make Monday come a little faster. LOL!

Am I missing some thing? Where is this Healer support group? :D

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Now more than ever, Je suis CHARLIE, I am CHARLIE.

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January 9, 2015 at 7:58 AM

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January 10, 2015 at 9:04 AM

I love Paris and have only received the kindest and most thoughtful help when I have been there, in spite of my pitiful high school French. I am often on my own and love to just walk all over the city and stop into a cafe or museum. Paris and Parisians are better and stronger and more beautiful than these a**holes can ever understand. Thank God for Paris, for Charlie and for Ahmed. "Fighting" as our Korean friends would say. And take care Darcy.

FYI -- for anyone who might be interested, Amazon offers subscriptions to "Charlie Hebdo" -- which plans to publish as usual next week.

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January 9, 2015 at 6:23 AM

Has anyone watching Kill Me, Heal Me yet? I really want to know what others think about this one. I know some might have complained about HJE constant screams in this 1st two episodes, but I think if other actress take on this role, it wouldn't be as close as how crazy she is. I won't complain, I love their dynamic so far. LOL Park Seo Joon. Can't wait what is his deal.

And, LOL I love all Ji Sung(s) as for this moment.

On the other note, I'm going to Japanese-Korean Festival tomorrow, I don't know what to expect yet. Just looking around maybe.

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Chandler

January 9, 2015 at 6:56 AM

You know, it's weird. I actually love Hwang Jung-Eum best when she plays characters like that. I LOVED her High Kick 2 character, yelling at and pranking Daniel Choi each episode.

January 9, 2015 at 7:40 AM

Ji Sung is my favorite actor, but I am having trouble finding this completely subbed. Even at 92% I feel I'm losing crucial information so want to wait to rewatch 1 before heading on to 2. So far I love Ji Sung's nuanced performance as the "real" Cha Do-Hyun. He does that totally-confused-but-trying-hard-to-hold-it-together look so well. But the eyeliner guy is quite appealing, also, lol.

soon, Blood will come along.
That is most likely going to be a wonderful snarkfest.

I must say, BoaB was fun - because of you guys.

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January 9, 2015 at 9:35 AM

I am halfway through ep 1 (even with just 95% subs^^) but I guess I'll have to wait at least until ep 4 to be able to know if I will continue.

I love Ji Sung + Hwang Jung Eum though so... I guess I'll endure it^^
Also I didn't know that I needed Ji Sung with guyliner in my life but apparently I do :D

It seems that viki has the exclusive license for this one and as of now they're still a small team of subbers... Still... both eps are at 95%/96% and it seems like no one is finishing them... My guess is that it's because of difficult dialogue? I don't know... I don't dare criticising them though because I know how much work subbing is (I've just completed some German subs for Family is coming) and am just glad there are people who do it =)
Healer subs were pretty slow in the beginning as well (I think since I just started to watch it 'live' this week^^) but they are faster now bc they have more people now.

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January 11, 2015 at 9:43 AM

To be honest I'm not even sure that Do Hyun is not just another splinter of the whole. I know he's the dominant personality and Se Gi wants to be (dominant- he obviously feels that Do Hyun can't take care of them because Se Gi always takes over when/right after Do Hyun is about to get his bum kicked) but all of these "characters" are different facets of Ji Sung (Ima just call him that when im talking all 7 personalities so I don't get confused!). Even Do Hyun seemed to be extreme in his niceness and care for others so I'm not sure how everyones going to come together but it's been interesting! And may I say that I'm convinced only Ji Sung could creditibly pull this role off. Both Ji's are amazingly skilled at their craft.

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January 11, 2015 at 4:37 PM

Yimmi

Happy Friday everyone!

Excited to have made it to OT today. I’ve missed the last few ones. Still not much to add b/c I’m dreadfully behind. I’ve been swamped with RL and now my Kdrama addiction is crossing over into RL and interrupting the progression of my addiction. It’s so circular and funny to me. I launched the blog I mentioned a few weeks ago dedicated to classic K-dramas and movies.

Well, it’s a roaring success . . . in failure, lol. I spent a couple of months preparing but I realized all that time was essentially wasted b/c I don’t actually know how to blog. I’ve been beset by my technical ineptitude and my computer deciding to stop working. So I’ve been using an ancient laptop (it’s 10 yrs old and soooo slow) and my iPad which is just not working. On a positive note, I’m really having fun laughing at my foray into blogging. I’m sure I’ll get to hang of it one day, but I’ll always look back on my naïve self thinking my prep work of browsing blogs and looking at what I liked and didn’t like and designing the look of my blog (but not having the aptitude to actually do what I designed) was good prep. Hell, I still haven’t figured out how all you guys make those nifty headers with the pics and graphics. I’m that clueless.

Oh, that reminds me, I have changed my name. I will no longer use a_diva after today b/c I didn’t want to blog under that name. I will be Elle from now on. Hope no one is using that name

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January 9, 2015 at 6:32 AM

Ooops, hit submit before I was done. Probably rambled long enough anyway.

I was just going to add-- I haven't started any of the new shows (I'm that behind) and am trying to decide on one to pick up. I'm onboard Binnie's train when that comes around but I've been gong back and forth between marathoning/catchng up on Punch or Valid Love. Any suggestions? And does Valid Love have the same type of vibe as that Son Ye-jin movie My Wife Got Married?

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museofmanymasks

January 9, 2015 at 7:27 AM

Haha it's ok Elle, we can be blogger newbies together! Funny I'm having the same issue with my laptop and am using this ancient refurbished Dell as old as Methuselah but I named it Winifred (yes I named it in hopes of convincing it we were on the same side but mostly I yell at it).

I did no prep work and am flying by the seat of my pants. Don't know how to do headers either so I pretend I'm a minimalist.Its funny because I am young enough that I think I'm expected to have more technical eptitude than I actually do. I have the somewhat happy dilemma of having more ideas than the time necessary to develop them but I'm having fun too!

I lurked around your blog a bit and I like it and am cheering from the bleachers. Excited at the potential films that might come. *Cheshire grin*

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January 9, 2015 at 7:49 AM

Funny we're having same issues with our baby blogs. You had same thought as I did--I'm not that old so shouldn't I know how to do this? But I don't so oh well. I'll keep checking out your posts. I really like your blog's concept too! So I look forward to reading more of your scenarios. It'd be hilarious if we see one of your ideas pop up in dramaland!

As for me, I wrote up a tentative posting schedule to alternate between a movie every few weeks in between whatever drama I'm working on, but just not sure if I can actually deliver until my computer is fixed and I figure some things out. So for now, the one movie that's up will be it. If I get computer back next week maybe I can do another movie sooner rather than later. Have to see.

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January 9, 2015 at 9:18 AM

oh - and it helps if you team up with people.

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9 Marilyn

January 9, 2015 at 6:33 AM

*Apologies in advance for the spam* ^^;

I’m a graduate student who is researching the Korean Wave in the United States. I’m seeking to interview K-drama fans who live in Northern California, and so I'm posting this "ad" to recruit interviewees. If you have lived in the United States for at least 10 years, are not of Korean descent, and consider yourself a K-drama fan (even a casual one!), I would love to talk to you. Please contact me at [email protected] if you can help me out.

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10 harmonyfb

January 9, 2015 at 6:38 AM

News has been horrific this week. Let's talk about happy things, instead.

What I've Watched:

Gap-Dong: A little at a time, there.

Agent Carter: Not a K-drama, but y'all, seriously, you need to watch this. Set in the late-40's, with a secret agent heroine who kicks butt and takes names. "Oh, SNAP!" describes 90% of her dialog.

What I'm Waiting to See:

Jekyll & Me: Hyun Bin, nuff said.

Blood: Yessssss. Soooooon.

K-drama Moment:

1. I had a 'Conversational Korean' cd set on my desk, and one of the regulars walks in and asks "Who's studying Korean?" Apparently he lived there for a while, and he promised to bring me some learning worksheets. :)

2. So...y'all know I bought some dvd sets with my own money & donated them to the library. I've been keeping track of their circulation stats, and had showed them to my immediate boss, who was not impressed & refused to order any.

So this week, I mentioned it to the Big Boss, showed him the stats, and he said "Well, how many did you want to buy? - Just tell the Order person to buy them & that I said it was OK." YES.

So as of this week, we've ordered "Secret Garden", "Shut Up! Flower Boy Band", "Crime Squad", "The Master's Sun", and "A Tale of Two Sisters". (I had also recently bought "Vampire Prosecutor 2", so we'll have that, as well.) And once it's available, I'll get us "Misaeng". That'll make 9 series and 2 films, and I'll be able to use their stats to expand our foreign offerings next year (when I'll be asking y'all for J-drama suggestions).

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January 9, 2015 at 6:53 AM

I love so much about this. :) Somewhere in the world, there is a library which has korean dramas and someone who has increasingly bigger schemes to promote the hallyu wave. Keep us posted! :)

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January 9, 2015 at 7:25 AM

Lol at the scheming. I live in a country thats big on kdramas they always have a large range to choose from and always updated as soon as it's finished airing. It's safe to say they are pirated.My mum wants me to move countries and go live in Kenya with her and I'm dreading it.As much as I love the country, there are no kdrama shops,and my mum and friends who live there think I'm crazy coz I love dramas,I don't need the judging. Plus Internet is crazy expensive and to be able to stream or download an entire drama is out of the question.ah STRESS (puppy's voice).

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January 9, 2015 at 7:38 AM

Lol at the scheming.

Hey, library politics are just as labyrinthine and complicated as any court sageuk. Those of us who don't have ordering privileges must learn to manipulate those who do. ;)

I live in a country thats big on kdramas they always have a large range to choose from

Alas, even though we have a couple of Korean markets in the area (and at least two Korean restaurants), there's nowhere to buy boxed sets of K-dramas. I've had to internet-order all of mine. And I have a sneaking suspicion that they are pirated, but the subs are so good I'm not going to think too hard about it.

(My opinion is that I'd buy them from reputable sources if there were any here.)

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January 9, 2015 at 7:57 AM

Well, our TV & movie collections are 95% white people, and they're almost all American or British. This is a small world; we need to mix it up!

January 9, 2015 at 7:40 AM

I'm so excited about it - and the Big Boss was really impressed at the circ numbers (I've been keeping careful track), given how short a time they've been in the system. :)

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thursdaynexxt

January 9, 2015 at 8:02 AM

It's an addiction. With serious side effects, like sleep deprivation, itchy fingers, and the occasional hallucination/vivid dream. It oughta come with a Warning Label (preferably pics. of abs.)

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January 9, 2015 at 8:12 AM

WARNING: May cause drama fever! Symptoms include: sleep deprivation, constant daydreaming, desire for fanfic, and desire for chocolate abs. There is no known cure, but there is treatment: buy another box set. ;)

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January 9, 2015 at 4:56 PM

Oh, what we do for our love of korean dramas. I work for a charity and there is a korean-based 'sister' office and they have a project in this un-named country (recently came out of conflict). We wondered why they were there; the answer was: the wife of the country's leader or president is a korean drama fan and asked their government to provide support to or invite this charity group's projects. Mmm, might not be my way of doing development, but however which way we impact for the good on people's lives why not, right? All by way of kdrama love.

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January 9, 2015 at 7:11 AM

Indeed! My thoughts go out to the people of Dammartin-en-goele. It's just too awful and familiar a scene, not to mention the fact that they're still on the loose.

The dealer I've bought from is called 'eaglecolor' - they have really good subs, some of their profits go to a charity, and they ship like lightning. :) Just fyi.

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January 9, 2015 at 7:14 AM

I too am waiting for Binnie. I keep trying to dial down my expectations but it's hard. Did you see him in a Fatal Encounter? Is it wrong that though the movie was pretty good, all I can think about is the muscles he had on display? I keep wondering how long it will take for the drama to do a broody shower scene or any other total fan service moment to show off his new physique. Not looking forward to Han Ji-min unless she shows some acting skill more akin to her performance in Fatal Encounter. I didn't know she had it in her so there's hope.

January 9, 2015 at 7:27 AM

No. Just waiting with bated breath.

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January 9, 2015 at 7:46 AM

Later this month. :)

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January 9, 2015 at 7:13 AM

@kanz: thanks for the peek into Kill Me, Heal Me!

I was also put off by the initial premise, then lured back by the cast and promise of comedy. If they keep to the funny, I'm in!

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January 9, 2015 at 7:41 AM

I'm agree with you, especially about the beginning part. The shot was like some kind of old foreign sitcom series until they all return to Korea. LOL.

Hi Everyone!

I hope you are all doing well today.

Saddened to hear about the tragic incidents in Paris, France. ..... It's disheartening to know this is the world we live in.

Watched this week:

Secret Door - Yes, still watching this! Just 2 more episodes left to watch.

Healer - Still in the beginning episodes, but oh so good!! ...... Absolutely love in this!

Mr. Back/Baek - Decided to check this out. ..... I don't know if it will be, but it looks like a fun ride.

Pride and Prejudice - Also decided to check this out and give it a try. ..... It was ok. I think I need to watch a couple of more episodes and then decide whether to continue or not.

Downtown Abbey - Because you have to throw in something different into the K-mix!! Heh! ....... Seriously though, it was good to see everyone back.

Ok, that's it for now. ...... Everyone take care and have a great Friday!

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January 9, 2015 at 8:43 AM

I'd advise you not to watch Mr. Back. It's just bad, like really bad.

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January 9, 2015 at 10:17 AM

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January 9, 2015 at 9:40 PM

neverending -

Oh, that's interesting ...... I'm curious to know what made it really bad.

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January 10, 2015 at 2:07 AM

First of all, there's no plot. I'm not going to spoil the drama too much so lets just say that other than the grandpa turning young overnight and him falling in love with a girl 40+ years his junior, there's nothing else to it.

I've actually watched the first 8 episodes or so, and then followed the screen caps. In my honest opinion, the first 2 episodes are fun and good. But after that there are immediately warning signs that the drama is going to turn into a disaster.

I have no idea why the female lead even falls in love with the male lead at all. It seems way too fast. I think it's an effect of that that Jang Na-ra and Shin Ha-kyun appear to have very little chemistry in their romantic scenes. To be more precise, they have selective chemistry. In certain scenes they feel great but in others (esp the kissing scenes) it's cringe-worthy. Or maybe it's just in comparison to FTLY... or maybe it's that Shin Ha-kyun looks a little old, and Jang Na-ra looks like a baby. The father and son scenes were also awkward to watch, that is, even Lee Joon and Shin Ha-kyun had no sparks.

There is also the issue of an old man romancing a young girl. I guess you can say that it's just a drama and it doesn't matter, but I thought it'll be much better if the love-line was between the son and the female lead instead. The whole romance in the drama just makes me feel uncomfortable, and I think people who have a sort of traditional mindset may feel the same way too.

Besides, Jang Na-ra's character was so contradictory. It's like the scriptwriter couldn't decide on a personality for her. Plus, the character doesn't contribute to the story at all. Both hers and Lee Joon's characters had nothing to talk about. They were just eye-candies. And Shin Ha-kyun always has this awkward expression on his face. I know that he's known for good acting, but I think he's doing it in a way so that he's supposed to be feel like an old man even with his "youthful" looks. It makes sense, but it feels weird. It feels a bit too much.

These are just my personal opinions though. However, I think majority will agree that it's definitely not a good drama even if they don't agree with all of the points above.

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January 11, 2015 at 7:22 AM

neverending -

Thank you for your response and for sharing your thoughts on the drama.

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January 9, 2015 at 6:53 AM

Not watching a whole lot.

Pride and Prejudice
The Virtuous Queen of Han
Detectives of Seonam Girls' High School

I did watch the Indian film Three Idiots which was recommended on last weeks OT.

I liked it. Kareena Kapoor !

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January 9, 2015 at 7:03 AM

Haha, me too. There's usually like 300 comments by the time I get here! But now theres only 17 and I'm too lazy to write anything for open thread anyway LOL (likely because I've been living and breathing the Healer thread allllllll week long).

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January 9, 2015 at 7:12 AM

Me too! It was like "oh there's Pinocchio!" Haha

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15 Mystique

January 9, 2015 at 6:57 AM

Hi Everyone!

Tis been a while since I have commented on OT. Happy New Year beanies!!!

Finally got a week and a half break from ugh school, traveled home to celebrate Christmas (Jan 7th) with the family and of course catch up on dramas in the midst of all the hubbub.

Healer: I dozed off halfway through the first episode, and I didn’t bother finishing it but then people started raving about it, and I was like maybe I missed something, so I picked it up again and Boy, oh boy do I love this drama or whaaat?. I finished the first 8 episodes in a day and that night I kept dreaming about the drama and it was all that occupied my thoughts the next day and the day after that. Could.. This… Be… Love..?? I should have waited longer before picking it up bcos now I have to start waiting impatiently for new episodes . IS IT NEXT WEEK YET?

Punch : Tried watching the first episode and it was so not my cup of tea. I don’t think I have ever watched a drama where I despised every single character.

Birth of a beauty : I enjoyed the first few episodes but school work kept interfering and I couldn’t keep up. Let’s just say picking it back up was not a good idea. Writer-nim stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking, not that it would do any good anyways since the drama is about to end. *RME*

Family Outing : Yi Han Oppa, I’m watching this because of you. Well let’s see how it goes since I’ve only seen just one episode.

Kill me, Heal me : Enjoyed the first episode,still waiting on subs for episode two.

Roommate : Yep, I’m still sticking with this one. I’m actually sort of enjoying season 2 better.

Is anyone watching King’s face? And how good is pride and prejudice?

Have a good weekend everyone!!!

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January 9, 2015 at 7:19 AM

This is what Healer does to you!!!

I checked out King's Face when it aired and enjoyed it's first 4 episodes a lot. It moves really fast and it's pretty exciting. BUT I'm not really in the mood for saguek right now, so I'm holding off. That way I'll also get to hear how it turned out in the long run.

And Pride and Prejudice was a drama that I did like at first, but it didn't completely grab me. Then I kept watching and suddenly I got super invested and really enjoyed it...but I've been distracted by Healer (I only have time for so many!). I plan to pick it up again as soon as I have time. For me, it's a show that has actually become a lot better than I originally expected, despite perhaps some pacing issues in recent eps.

Also I've been slowly making my way through Family Outing too! Just watched the episode with Lee Jin Wook and had NO idea that he had such a hilarious relationship with Yoo Jae-suk!!! They are priceless and now I want LJW to guest on Running Man!

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January 9, 2015 at 7:25 AM

@Chandler: re Family Outing - nooo, don't mention LJW and YJS to me. Now I HAVE to watch it! :)

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January 9, 2015 at 8:29 AM

OH just try and resist this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR7_dpuZDp8

Muahaha.

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January 9, 2015 at 8:31 AM

Seriously, though. I never think I've seen Jae-suk get so frustrated with a guest he just met before. It's priceless.

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January 9, 2015 at 8:45 AM

Muahaha is right - you're absolutely evil! :)

Just snorted my way through that video - Jin Wook working his aegyo on Jae Suk! And on me! I'm a goner!

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January 9, 2015 at 10:37 AM

Haha, yes. I already experienced the *facepalm* moment LOLOL!

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January 9, 2015 at 7:21 AM

@Mystique:

Family Outing/the Family's Coming has me curious (I also second your: "Yi Han Oppa"!). Might give it some time to find its stride before starting.

Besides, it's more fun if you've got a solid 3-4 episodes to marathon when I first start watching a drama!

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January 9, 2015 at 8:27 AM

OHHHH that Family Outing! Haha, I feel silly. I've been meaning to watch that for Jin Yi-han too so I don't know why I didn't put that together LOL. I'll probably check that out tomorrow!

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January 9, 2015 at 8:35 AM

@Roommate - I was hyped for Jackson and his mother's date from the preview, but the community project that took place instead this episode did not disappoint me at all. It was so heartwarming to see the hard work by so many who joined in the effort to help the elderly get set up for the cold winter (wind, snow, ice included for real).

Pride and Prejudice - Chief Moon is the most intriguing character of all. I like this kdrama. I think marathoning it (since you haven't started it sounds like) would make the story more cohesive, as there have been some pre-empts along the way in real time.

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January 9, 2015 at 9:05 AM

@owl: *waves~~!!*

Re Roommate: it looked seriously FREEZING. We're talkin' frostbite.

The coal delivery mission was totally random and out of the blue (and I didn't even know people still used them as a heating method), but it was great how everyone pitched in.

So funny when he complained that in 2014, Jong Ok Noona kept calling him "ugly". This year, he's "old-looking"?! Poor Dong Wook, he just can't win! :)

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January 10, 2015 at 1:11 PM

I think he looks so much happier and handsome since Blade Man ended. I imagine sleep helps.

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January 9, 2015 at 8:41 AM

Yeah Healer's beginning is it's weakest spot. I started multi-tasking during it. But after that it became top of my list to watch....the minute it's out with subs I completely tune out the rest if the world. (Although there are still about 600 comments when u go to the recap afterwards lol.)

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latteholic

January 9, 2015 at 10:17 AM

I went through the same thing as well when I watched the first episode of Healer, but I enjoy it a lot now. Not quite a crack-drama level yet for me, but mostly because I'm too busy with real life right now...

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sunshine

January 9, 2015 at 9:17 PM

@Mystique: Yep, Healer's fantastic! Needs to be given a chance, and I'm so glad you did! No wonder there's not a single negative comment about the drama among the 1000+ comments it gets per episode nowadays!

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16 museofmanymasks

January 9, 2015 at 7:01 AM

This week went by fast. Guess it’ll take longer to get back into the after-Christmas swing of things. That said, less dramas, boo. Only made time for finishing Yoona’s Street (last two episodes will be today woot woot!) It only took me forever and there were frustrating times nearer to the end but I still feel I could not have chosen a better first outing for my first 50 episode drama. The bar is way up there now.

January 9, 2015 at 12:02 PM

Foreigners send food trucks? I'm sure that's true but I wouldn't know the first thing about doing that....did some international fans get together and do this?

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Newstory

January 9, 2015 at 1:14 PM

coby, Smile Donghae is 159 episodes! I was also thinking of watching it, but I'm not that brave) Empress Ki was upper limit so far (but the plot is so interesting you forget that there are 50 episodes).
I wanted to check out Bachelor (was surprised to find Kim Young Kwang there), but old Dramabeans posts are not good so I decided not to watch it.

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lan_lan

January 9, 2015 at 4:42 PM

@newstory

I'm currently watching Smile, Donghae and I definitely recommend it! The episodes are around 35 minutes so it isn't so intimidating. I started 2-3 days ago and have already gotten to ep. 40. Granted 2 of those days I was home and did nothing but binge watch lol.

JCW was still a little green with his acting but he was great nonetheless.

Just a slight warning though that for the first 25 or so eps, he was kind of pissing me off in his blind devotion to the girlfriend, but things definitely get much better from there. He has great chemistry with the lead actress there too!

The side characters are pretty entertaining as well. It has definitely help to ease my Healer addiction while we wait for the new eps.

January 11, 2015 at 10:16 AM

@newstory and @coby

Awesome! You guys will enjoy it! I am now up to ep 54 and it's still very entertaining. Yes, Park Jung Ah is the girlfriend when the show starts.

I might end up going to Empress Ki and Bachelor Vegetable shop too if I can't help myself. Sageuks and makjangs are really not my cup of tea but for the enjoyment of watching JCW I will sacrifice the hours. At least these are all completed so I can always push the forward button through unbearable scenes haha.

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19 NahlaJW

January 9, 2015 at 7:10 AM

Good Evening, how are you guys?
Finally we've finished 1st part of our final year project but with a bomb. The jury presentations told us that our project is too big for 3 girls so we need to work harder on it or we'll not be able to come up with anything at the end of part2..that was upsetting because we were fooled by our supervisor who didn't even defend his students and guided us in the wrong way ....it is our mistake also because we didn't confront him earliar about this issue ?? now all what I want is to do a decent work even if the objective of the project will not be achieved entirely.
sorry for throwing my problems here but I needed some how to speak it out loud ?

The other thing is I need to check this Healer ~ya dude who has become hot issue these days in DB hehehe
just 2 more weeks until I finish this crazy semester so ,Healer Yaaa wait for me ?

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20 yimmi

January 9, 2015 at 7:12 AM

Hello, fellow Beanies. Its a cold morning here, and I'm fighting off a hideous head cold, but i hope its good weather wherever you all are at. There are advantages to not being able to sleep though like trundling through the Dramabeans threads and actually commenting on the open thread for the first time...

Thanks for the heads up on the preview, Saema! I'll have to go check it out. This may sound strange after having waited so ardently to watch Healer ep 10 (I did try but dramafire had issues with the link) I've become strangely hesitant... I think I keep waiting for the stars to align for the right moment so I don't feel rushed (that just came out ruched a second ago and I do kinda feel that way too haha! -I think the head cold and lack of sleep have gotten to me- not sure if my mental processes are sane? right now).

@ 4D Anyway, yes I am watching Seonam Detectives and I have to agree 4D (oh this spellcheck! I had to laugh because while typing I looked back up and it had changed 4D's name to 4G) that it is a little strange at first, but I really, really like it. Its better than I thought it would be. It has a slightly creepy flair and crazy characters and so far the mystery of the lit. Teacher is interesting. Hope it stays that way.

@Redfox, I want to do your question justice so maybe you will let me answer you next open thread, if you don't mind? I have imagined it, LOL! And in my more realistic daydreams it involved me sitting in a cafe (of course- I mean where else do they hang out) while visiting SK on vacation. Imagined right down to the clothes but that's as far as I get. I don't know what we would say to each other so I'll think about that and get back to you on it...

Ah! My hot tea is here so I'm going back into lurking mode but I want to tell you all thank you! And thanks to dramabeans for creating such a great community for this drama crazed person! (Er not that it's just for THIS drama crazed person but I'm grateful)

January 9, 2015 at 4:30 PM

Woah! Maybe it's just me seeing double and not an actual double post so please just ignore the previous post (in which I asked you all to ignore the even more previous post). Thanks.

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4D

January 9, 2015 at 7:39 PM

Yeah Seonam is both creepy and crazy lol. I find it strangely addictive but I don't know that I can actually describe it as good. I'm still just....undecided I guess. I'm along for the ride though.

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21 CaroleMcDonnell

January 9, 2015 at 7:17 AM

Hi all:

I hope everyone suffering from ye olde arctic blast will find relief soon. I'm a bit annoyed with it already.

Dramas:
Valid Love: I'm really loving this drama. (Yes,although I will repeat to my dying day that the heroine is too overwritten and didn't need to be so overly-oppressed or overly-grieved for us to understand her.)

What I like about Valid Love is that it is that rare drama that is showing us the possible death of an old love and the transition to a new love. I haven't seen that in a long while. And done so believably. It's a bit like "that is life...you fall in love in ignorance, you get confused about love in anger or ignorance, you move on, everyone moves on." It's got a sweet humanity to it.

Of course the first love was killed by a hubby's overreaction to a (stupid) heroine's mistake. Cause I feel like he's on a path he doesn't want to be on but he can't stop himself from treading. Heck, everyone is on a path he/she is stuck in...so the humanity is tinged with a bit of nihilism isn't it? Humans are confused creatures of their emotions and are often tossed about irrationally. Scary thought, but possibly true at times.

What's Happening with my Family? Oh my! Soooooooo good! If the synop fr this drama had been, "Father learns he is dying of cancer" I would never have touched it. Am glad it wasn't. I keep feeling for Daddy Cha's Little Sister. She loves her oppa so much. How is she going to deal with his death?

Punch is so good! I'm so on the side of the bad guys. Except for Gang Jae. He's loving the new twist of power too much. I also do not like Dr Jang. Okay okay...maybe I just love Tae Joon.

I'm predisposed to watching Heart to Heart because it's giving me Flower Boy Next Door vibes. So maybe Flower Boy psychiatrist. I like social phobia stories.

Wondering if I should watch Kill me, Heal Me. Pondering... Jomo, if you're liking it, I'll give it a go. I'm thinking Jekyll is more my speed..but will see.

Waiting, waiting, waiting for Unkind Women.

@August @redfox

Can I say something that might seem a bit controversial?

I didn't blame him for that slap. He isn't a violent person, it was almost an involuntary reaction, he was crazy at that moment, have neither of you never pushed anyone in a very emotional situation? I'm not saying I condone any sort of violence but this was an accident. If she had thrown any sort of thing at him or pushed him, would you also be considering her as having used violence?

In the context of their relationship and what happened I think he did far worse than that slap.

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January 9, 2015 at 9:15 AM

The calm ones can become quite nasty when "their" woman has strayed. So, it's human nature that slap.

Not sure if that is shown as a good thing...if it makes us see that he loves her passionately even though he's so easygoing generally.

Or if Korean women would understand the slap.

Hey Carole!

After my reply above I probably don't even need to tell you I remembered you a lot in ep 11 of VL. Sometime I even questioned if those were really my thoughts or you whispering eheheheh, but no, it was just me. This time I have to say I did feel the writer was pushing a bit. Not that those people couldn't have reacted like that, but all of them together made me feel it was a bit over the top. I wanted to tell the writer I liked IR already no need to make her mom say anything cruel or for her to coincidentally meet the husband with other woman and get drunk.

I'll add a reply from above here.

>The real ending of such a story is what I fear: everyone going his/her separate way. But then if that happens, we’re set up to feel sorry for heroine...

I completely agree that would be the most realistic solution, honestly I thought we would have a time skip after the break-up. If they both had time to think and work things through I'd be more ready to believe she would give Kim a chance or be ready to come back to the husband. The same goes for him in a stronger way because after such a shock I can't buy the guy saying a new relationship started, unless as some form of rebound which is always unhealthy. I want this whole romance with his coworker to stop, it's not realistic for me. Where is a time skip when we need them???

If the whole each goes their way ending is what happens though I don't think we would necessarily feel sorry for heroine. I can imagine a dozen scenarios, it all depends on the execution. I could feel she had this really confusion time in her life when she almost loved two men and lost them both and still somehow became a more independent and confident woman just having lived that. I could imagine the husband already learning a lot about what different meaning love had for both of them and how much his reactions where different than what he wanted, how much he imagined to be a better person before and finally becoming this person. I could imagine Carpenter Kim learning about love probably for the first time and how it can make him softer and more tuned to his ability to connect to people and what it would bring to his life and how his actions have consequences. They can all walk away fine from all of this. Or we get one or even the most remote possibility, 2 couples by the end! Like I said before, I want to believe them, if possible I also want a happy ending even if we don't get any couples together.

It's odd but this week I started watching another show about an affair. It's an American show called The Affair. It's completely different and quite good. It's more about a mystery and how 2 people can have these crazy different recollections about the same events. It is interesting to find yet again I can't like the American characters even when they are so amazingly well written, it is lust what drives them not love so maybe it's the romantic in me that always misses that. Is there any...

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Lixie

January 9, 2015 at 1:23 PM

I confess it still strange to understand the divorce as a problem for a man or a woman. In my country nobody cares, the fact that she is still just 31, no kids, hardworking and absolutely beautiful would be the things that would count. I would like her to open a business by the end too, go live alone and be your weird self to the fullest. :)

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redfox

January 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM

hmm yes.
it would be nice if she became an artist and the two men became friends or something. though i dont know what they´d talk about...

ok I am starting to picture some separation time and her coming back to that workshop but an open ending.

open ending is the easy way out of this riddle though

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pogo

January 9, 2015 at 10:11 AM

If the synop fr this drama had been, “Father learns he is dying of cancer” I would never have touched it.

January 11, 2015 at 5:54 AM

OMAYGAAAAAAAAAAAH A SUBBED VERSION

Thank you very kamsa~

I saw this thrice without subs but watching it again from your link makes me LOL so much more now that I know what they're saying.

Huehuehue

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22 PeepsLeAwesomePotato

January 9, 2015 at 7:20 AM

Because I've been living under a rock and have only recently surfaced to greet the world, I have only just been introduced to The Big Bang Theory... and it totally tickles my engineering fancy! *Cackles*

But this is a K-Drama blog, so lets return to K-Dramas.

Watching: Healer, Pride and Prejudice.
Was watching: Punch

I only have new stuff to watch on Mondays.

Healer, I like, because the action keeps you on your toes and the multiple personalities that JungHoo is apparently not keeping separate very well provides an interesting tension. I dunno, I just like it. It must be the execution.

Pride and Prejudice, I love, because... it's like mental calisthenics. Moon HeeMan is super interesting to me because he's all grey and he wants to get from A to B but he throws so many traps and obstructions along the way to keep others from reaching him such that his answers are always multi-layered and one has to think reeeeeaaaal hard to understand his real intention... I mean, I do see the show for its weakness (in that everything and everyone is somehow related to each other like the characters just live in their own bubble) but I do truly enjoy how its being difficult (maybe a bit too difficult as a drama for some) which brings me to why I'm not that interested in Punch.

Punch: Shin HaKyung is annoying me. She is so naive that it's unbelievable. How can a person who has been in the prosecutors-organisation be so naive, especially when she experience first-hand the pain and difficulties of her (now-ex) husband being framed when they were both newer in the industry? Also, I'm not really connecting with JungHwan. I still maintain my inability to understand why he hasn't quit yet. Like, dude has two months... why not just enjoy that time with Yerin in America where the original doctors specializing in his condition reside? Why jump to help the Prosecutor-General at all when he has his own new right hand man? Man, if I were him, the moment I got HaKyung out of jail, I'd have flown Yerin and Mom and Sis over to America, stat. If he really didn't want to tell them of his condition, he could have just copped the reason to him having had a scare with his diagnosing and wanting to take good loooong break. Shin HaKyung can continue trying to kick butts in South Korea if that's her wish. I cannot understand Punch because I don't understand JungHwan's motives at all, which makes me completely detached from his character and therefore, the story.

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owl

January 9, 2015 at 8:51 AM

Ah, a Chief Moon appreciator like myself! He is all grey. i like grey. I see him making a roundabout diverted pathway from A to B for the others. He is smart. And I still maintain that he is good (in a painfully no nonsense way). But with the tricky turns the plot has taken all the murky grey makes it hard to see clearly

Rather than P&P, I now refer to it as PPP - Prosecutors Prosecuting Prosecutors.

January 9, 2015 at 11:00 AM

That black bean ramyun togetherness meal was majorly awesome because it hurt both men so much to know their friendship was at an end. I just wish JungHwan would see that the friendship is totally all over by now. He should know Tae-joon well enough by now to answer that. Varying degrees of self-servingness with Dr Jang as the ultimate in that he is supposed to be a doctor the symbol of perfect healing and goodness and he is utterly unconflicted in his selfservingness. And then there is Ha-kyung who is totally unconflicted in her extreme goodness. I guess all these in between morally-conflicted folks have lingering emotions and JungHwan has a lingering loyalty and love.

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23 alua

January 9, 2015 at 7:24 AM

Still not watching any Korean dramas (Healer maybe at some point in the future, but don't have time right now).

Did watch two j-dramas this week though, which I would both recommend:

1) Tokyo Airport: Air Traffice Service (2012) – one of the Japanese workplace dramas, where they take the most random job (air traffic controllers in this case) and make a drama about it. And a lovely one it is. Superbly interesting (the things you learn about air traffic control, even if some situations are clearly fictional), very character-focused (with an awesome female lead but well-developed side characters too). It doesn't delve into issues the way Misaeng did, but it does explore the work environment and certain issues that come up. And how different types of people function in those kind of environments. There is a love line in the drama, but it's secondary (and no love triangle or anything of that sort), never overtaking the main focus of the drama (how a young woman settles into her new work place and grows, as an employee and person over time). Both laughed and cried with the drama too.

2) Gakko ja Oshierarenai! (aka Things You Can't Learn in School!, 2008). This one falls into a completely different genre of Japanese dramas – the "quirky" kind, with a mangaesque approach (over-acting for comic effect). Although this one has its flaws (some of the writing and editing could have been more polished), I found myself laughing till I cried at times. It's set at high school and focuses on 10 kids who join a social dance class – five boys who are the first male students at an all-female high school and five girls who are outsiders at the school.
What this drama gets right: it tackles, in a mostly light-hearted way, various taboos (bullying, abortion, teenage sex, homosexuality) and doesn't pretend about anything (e.g. that teens are sexual beings). I don't think it's as much a social critique as acknowledging certain issues that are out there. It's wonderfully realistic about the struggles that teens have and sends a great message with the way some characters just accept differences – not wanting to spoil anything, but everyone needs a Touma in their life. The way he reacts to his best friend's struggle in one of the later episodes is beyond awesome (as well hilarious).

I have never seen either of these two dramas recommended anywhere, they seem to be some of good productions have been off most people's radars (probably for the lack of any major stars in them). So I'm giving them a shout out here. :-)

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January 10, 2015 at 10:08 PM

Yuki Amami ❤❤❤

I will watch Boss anytime for her. She also starred in episodes 10 and 11 of Galileo 2, which are adapted based on Keigo Higashino's novel Salvation of a Saint.

Another strong female lead would be Reiko Himegawa played by Yuko Takeuchi in the police procedural Strawberry Night.

Maybe my opinion only, but Japanese dramas do better than Korean ones in terms of providing viewers strong and smart female leads.

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alua

January 11, 2015 at 12:45 AM

@Thursdaynexxt

I've only watched Kekkon Shinai (which I liked okay... I just think it copped out at the end with the message it was supposedly trying to deliver). Will try the others though!

@lc

I like Yuko Takeuchi, she often has interesting roles.

<Japanese dramas do better than Korean ones in terms of providing viewers strong and smart female leads

No, I would totally agree with that. I mean, we get our share of damsels in distress as well, but strong, smart female leads definitely appear more often.

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thursdaynexxt

January 11, 2015 at 11:03 PM

Hi @lc!

Bit late responding to your 23.1.2.1.2 comment, but -- I LOVE Takeuchi Yuko (and Strawberry Night ... and Kikuta ... you know what follows... :) )

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alua

January 9, 2015 at 11:13 AM

Should add I'm not sure I'd call Fukada's character gutsy – just that she is not defined by other (esp. male) characters, needs no 'saving' from anyone and is perfectly fine by herself. That's the problem I find in too many dramas with female heroines – that once you take out the male love interest, there's nothing left. No reason for the female's existence, nothing much else to define her, no interests that she has that weren't related to the male, etc.

Fukada's character is fine its own (although she also makes clear at some point that she'd happily marry – though if she doesn't, it that's fine as well).

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yimmi

January 9, 2015 at 12:29 PM

Talking about Jdramas has anyone watched Perfect Insider? I was wondering if it was worth my time. The reviews seemed to be pretty good.

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alua

January 9, 2015 at 12:52 PM

Sorry, haven't seen it.

I generally avoid Takei Emi's stuff because I find her very bland & with a limited acting range.

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yimmi

January 9, 2015 at 1:16 PM

Oh ok! thanks for the reply! I don't know too much about Jdramas having only watched Hana Kimi (and having loved all the craziness it was), Liar Game, Asuko March and a few others I can't think of right now so my knowledge is limited...

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alua

January 9, 2015 at 7:59 AM

Hope you enjoy it. As I said, it's not perfect but it's got its heart in the right place. Particularly because it doesn't pretend that certain things never happen and it's more realistic about sex than 99% of dramas with adults (it doesn't show anything explicitly, but it makes clear that things happen when people are relationships).

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alua

January 9, 2015 at 8:03 AM

Btw, Naka Riisa is one of the characters – in her usual role (she gets a bit typecast), but I have to say she just plays that kind of character perfectly. She's probably the most high-profile actor of those playing the teenagers in the drama. Nakamura Aoi might ring a bell with some as well (he's the narrative voice).

Of the adults, Fukada Kyoko and Tanihara Shosuke (the psychologist/psychiatrist – can't remember which – in Love Shuffle) are best known.

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January 9, 2015 at 8:15 AM

I've seen Naka Riisa in Gokuaku Ganbo and Lucky Seven.

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alua

Fukada's character in Gakko is a bit naive. It's funny, but not that interesting. A bit preachy, but as naive as she comes across at times, there is truth in her words – certainly some good messages for the teen students to take away. I think I tried one episode of Silent Poor but found it a bit weird? (Can't remember why... like it was trying too hard?). But might give it another shot...

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pogo

January 9, 2015 at 8:21 AM

@alua - I've been meaning to try Tokyo Airport for well over a year now, mainly because of Fukada Kyoko (I've been a fan of hers ever since Kamikaze Girls/Shimotsuma Monogatari, her character in that is one of my favourite characters of all time and she was flawless in that role).

I meant to get further into Hanzawa Naoki this weekend, but maybe I'll try this alongside.

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alua

January 9, 2015 at 8:23 AM

I've been meaning to try Hanzawa Naoki (since a few people have been recommending it)... noting down Kamikaze Girls/Shimotsuma Monogatari too.

:-)

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24 MistyIsles

January 9, 2015 at 7:30 AM

Happy Friday, everyone!

Finally caught up on everything, just in time for the premier of Spy, which I'm definitely looking forward to.

Healer: I love this show so much. That is all.

Pinocchio: is also still going strong, despite the distinct and painful lack of Hyung. Beom Jo scared me for a second, but I'm 99% positive he's recording everything and I can't wait for him to stand up against his mom--though I also feel really sorry for him. I didn't realize how much I missed In Ha interacting with her family, but episode 17 definitely made up for that. I love so much that she and Dal Po are going to face this together, and how Mom's slow crumbling might actually end up enabling her to change for the better and do what she couldn't before. And though I once figured they'd match Yoo Rae up with Beom Jo (simply by nature of their being in the main quartet of characters), I'm now very much wanting her and Gyo Dong to happen.

And Running Man: Seung Gi is always adorable, but Moon Chae Won stole the show for me this week. I was actually a little worried about her at first--she seemed so timid and nervous--but she rose to the challenge quite hilariously. (And charmingly.) I laughed so hard at her chocolate trade-off, especially since the others didn't seem to be able to argue with her reasoning. And there's always something extra nice about everyone winning together.

Have a great weekend!

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pogo

January 9, 2015 at 7:45 AM

Pinocchio: is also still going strong, despite the distinct and painful lack of Hyung.

Even thinking of hyung makes my heart twist, and having him back for those few seconds per ep just reminds me of how epic and amazing those reunion eps were before hyung went to jail. (I love so many characters and relationships in this drama, but my #1 favourite is easily the two brothers. Especially when you get younger bro looking up at older bro, with that helpful height difference, like a little boy.....damn it, I want to cry again)

YES to the increased presence of In-ha's family in episode 17, too. I feel like the drama is stronger when it focuses on characters instead of the dry mechanics of reporting and investigating - that stuff is mundane, give me more Dad and Grandpa! And maybe more than 30 seconds of hyung while you're at it.

I've come around to the idea of Cap/Yoo-rae and like it, but it does make me sad to see Lee Yubi so completely wasted in this role. She gets hardly any screen time (only hyung in recent episodes gets less, out of the main cast) and zero character development - even Beom-jo got his and Kim Young-kwang is rising to the occasion, but Yoo-rae.......in a Park Hae-ryun drama....yeah I am bitter about this.

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MistyIsles

January 9, 2015 at 9:47 AM

If nothing else, they could at least give us more of Grandpa visiting and telling Hyung all about little Dal Po growing up, and then Hyung could mention it to Dal Po, who would be mortified while Hyung just finds it the cutest thing ever.

And yeah, I agree about Lee Yubi.

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25 Sajen

January 9, 2015 at 7:31 AM

Pride and Prejudice- I'm still watching it because I want to know how it ends but really my only thought is this. Is it over yet?

Pinocchio- I don't think I can be coherent so I'm not going to say anything. Is it next week yet?

Healer- Same as Pinocchio.

Detectives of Seonam- I like it. It reminds me of a Japanese police drama with it's episodic nature yet maintaining some semblance of an overarching storyline.

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26 pogo

January 9, 2015 at 7:37 AM

Hey everyone!

A bit slow on the dramas this week, I only caught up on Pinocchio and episode 17 confirmed three things:

1. I adore the OTP to pieces, and whoever thought of bringing Lee Jong-seok and Park Shin-hye together should get an award. Their chemistry is genuine and all the better for neither of them having to cover for any lacking acting skills in the other.

2. I miss hyung. He really is in that one scene an episode just to remind us he exists and tore at our heartstrings like no one else, right?

3. In-ha's dad is awesome, through and through. His adorable indignation at the idea that Dal-po had moved on to another girl, then his belated indignation that it was actually In-ha who was in there alone.....I laughed.

ok, it's four things:

4. Song Cha-ok is still a terrible person who made terrible choices, but the drama has been hinting for ages that she was more conflicted about them than she let In-ha or Dal-po know.

I made the mistake of wandering onto some 'feminist kdrama' blog this week though, and found the tumblr writer doing some very convoluted mental gymnastics to absolve In-ha's mother of all responsibility in the attacks against Dal-po's family 14 years ago.

(to sum up: she's a woman! the patriarchy! in a field that doesn't reward ethics! and the Ki brothers are wrong to blame her because she didn't personally kill their mother and ostracise the family!.......basically, literally any excuse to claim that anything a woman does is ok and not as bad as if a man did it, no matter how unethical and wrong. I just can't deal with this nonsense, and I'm so glad dramabeans is free of it. But it still boggles the mind that people can believe that nonsense like this is feminist in any way)

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Chandler

January 9, 2015 at 7:53 AM

Wow. And that's really supposed to be a 'feminist kdrama' blog? When the writer is excusing a character's actions...solely BECAUSE they're a woman? What a backwards world we live in, lol.

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pogo

January 9, 2015 at 8:15 AM

I went through some of that writer's other posts, and they seem to have the same cracked logic applying to all female characters/women. But tumblr is a hellhole where the delusional like to rant, so I don't expect any better from such a place.

(someone being unprofessional and lacking the skill to do their job? Have some compassion, she's a woman! If she's a woman and got away with it, it's even more awesome! Female character did something horrible? Don't blame her, it's society that made her do it/is to blame!)

I consider myself a feminist, but the above kind of thinking isn't feminism, it's just a pathetic set of excuses borrowing the name of feminism to dress up with.

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Tara

January 9, 2015 at 9:21 PM

Hey pogo!

Completely agree with all your points about Pinocchio...especially In-ha's dad! That was the best part of the ep for me...how he was all happy that In-ha's still Dal-po's heart, only to realize she was in his room! hahaha :P

I'm not a feminist but damn...wtf is that blogger thinking?!?? Just sounds like a bunch of illogical crap in trying to justify Cha-ok's actions...and then to try and say it's feminist? Nah...I ain't buying it.

While watching Pinocchio, and having Ro-sa being the Big Bad and puppeteering Cha-ok into changing the news...I interpreted this as pointing out that someone like Cha-ok wouldn't have made it as far as she could as Chief Reporter of MSC without the monetary & political pull of someone behind the scenes - Ro-sa. That being said, that is in NO way in justifying anything that Cha-ok did...she might have felt like whistle-blowing at first (which quickly went away when Director offered her the opportunity to the first female Cap), but she took the low road and sold her soul and morality to the devil.

For that blogger to think that a man wouldn't be in the same position and wouldn't be as bad if he had did it, etc etc...it just goes to show how closed-minded some people are and how they just don't get it. I, for one, am a bit peeved that the writer would be inserting this redemption arc...because she made horrible choices day after day and is likely going to be absolved of it -- just your typical kdrama ending, having the baddie get away with it for some reason or another and be forgiven. Sigh. Guess we can't get everything we want. Right? -.- But I still want lots more cute moments of Dal-po/In-ha, Grandpa and Dad, and Yoo-rae and Cap! :)

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January 10, 2015 at 6:20 AM

@Tara - this person seems to apply the same logic when real-life people are criticised as well - totally one of those "the men are always in the wrong unless they have done everything to please the woman, and maybe not even then - and the women always in the right!" crazies. I'm really not keen to share any part of my kdrama or any fandom with such people, but thankfully none of that rot has ever infested dramabeans - if jb and gf see that a character sucks, they will not make ten thousand excuses for her first!

(the same person also claimed that Yoo-rae was "gaslighted" in the drama.......I love Yoo-rae and think the story treated her terribly, but the notion that she was gaslighted is pure fiction)

and re: Pinocchio, I too would be very annoyed if Song Cha-ok got a total happy ending in exchange for apologising - it doesn't make up for her egoism, corruption and total neglect of In-ha for thirteen years! Hyung at least pays for his crimes with jail, but SCO is no poor helpless damsel, she knew exactly what she was doing and what would happen as a result, and showed/felt NO remorse for her actions as long as they remained covered up.

BUT I can live with the idea that she might grow towards becoming a less terrible person, simply because the drama has been hinting for a while that there was something behind the facade.

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January 9, 2015 at 8:09 AM

Other dramas:

What's With This Family - I don't know how this drama is managing to keep its moments of levity when the main character is dying, but somehow it does. I don't want Papa Cha to die, and not just because of how devastated his eldest and youngest children look over the news of his illness. (only 12 episodes left! For most dramas that's a lot, but it's the home stretch for WWTF, and I will miss this no-makjang, breezy, warm bit of drama for a while after it's gone)

Pride & Prejudice - not caught up yet! Off to remedy that soon....

And on the jdrama front:

I finished Nobunaga Concerto! It's a pretty good piece of fusion jidaigeki with a Prince &The Pauper-ish premise, and I like its time-travelling bumbler hero a lot (I can hardly believe Oguri Shun plays roles as different as the ones he had here and in BORDER, as in I can hardly believe it's the same actor). Of course, he doesn't look even close to being a high schooler, but he's a good enough actor to get you over that pretty quickly.

And I did like the setting and supporting characters a lot - it's a warm fuzzy reimagining of a rather violent part of Japanese history, but the funny stuff mixes well with the more serious/emotional parts and it doesn't drag or get tiring since the low episode count cuts out a lot of superfluity.

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Hope I have time to check out episodes 1 & 2 of Kill Me, Heal Me over the weekend.

Please, do share...
How in the world do you have/find the time to read all 1,000+ comments for the Healer recaps?

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January 9, 2015 at 7:54 AM

Jang Tae San definitely need more love! I really like Two Weeks. It made me edgy and persistent throughout, cheering Lee Jun Ki!

"How in the world do you have/find the time to read all 1,000+ comments for the Healer recaps?"

*Raises hand shamefacedly*: I actually took a day off work, fully intending to work, but somehow it turned into a day of trawling through 5 pages of comments (now 6 pages!), facebook/twitter pages, news sites, and watching all the BTS videos and interviews!

Seeing as we're only at the halfway mark, I don't think I can get away with doing that every week until the finale, especially if the comments reach 2000+! :)

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January 9, 2015 at 8:45 AM

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January 9, 2015 at 8:11 AM

I was excited that Jang Tae-san was the focus of Man-crush Monday too! I always felt like his character was underrated in 2013, for some reason. I remember he was one of my favorite characters of that year.

Also loved when Choi Han-gyul of Coffee Prince got a shout-out recently too, because I'd missed that man. *Sigh* One of my first ultimate k-drama crushes. I remember when he came along ALL my supposed crushes on other characters/actors evaporated. And it stayed that way for a loooong time (until, I believe, his future The Fugitive co-star Park Hee-sun seduced me in Mixed-Up Investigative Agency LOL). And now I'm wondering why I'm not watching that movie right now.

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January 9, 2015 at 8:51 AM

It was nice to see Gong Yoo as Choi Han-gyul in Coffee Prince on Man-crush Monday. Even better that it was for Coffee Prince and not Big.

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January 9, 2015 at 8:25 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh oppa in Two Weeks! (not Mary's oppa, MY oppa). I'm so glad to see he got some love for his performance as Jang Tae-san, that was such an underrated but awesome drama.

And oh, Love Rain! I realise it can get draggy but episode 5 is where the good part (i.e. modern-day OTP) starts. The drama is certainly flawed but Jang Geun-seok and Yoona did have good chemistry, and she was actually decent in her role.

January 9, 2015 at 9:56 AM

Yeah, I took notice of the cinematography, the quieter moments, and I didn't mind the 70's story-line. What was boring for me is the romance of the 70's generation. I'm not sold on their love or OTP status yet.

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January 9, 2015 at 10:07 AM

@August - honestly, you can skip the parents/1970s JGS-Yoona pairing. They didn't really serve much purpose in the present day except generating angst for the 2000s otp.

(I was really fond of Verden Vil Bedras, the background music that plays in episode 5 when the current-day otp first meet)

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January 9, 2015 at 9:02 AM

Love Rain, August! and you are on the critical turning point episode 5 (when it's the present day and JGS is on the train in Japan.) This is one of my all-time favorites when I think of how it all began (my venture into the universe of kdramas where I have been sucked in and now orbit without end). The white house of boys, well, and the end of episode 9, well, just let me know when you get there. JGS can be the best jerk sometimes.

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January 9, 2015 at 9:24 AM

Hi Owl,

Happy New Year!
Thanks, I'll be sure to let you know once I reach episode 9.

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January 9, 2015 at 9:30 AM

Thank you very kamsa for the prayers...may God save us (I'm in Nigeria).

Happy OT, beanies, and a belated Happy New Year!

Plunged straight back into work (the holidays already seem like a distant dream), but managed to catch up on some older stuff (like Marriage Not Dating - sweet and enjoyable, liked the spunky heroine a lot!) and tie up loose ends (like watching the ending of My Secret Hotel that I couldn't bring myself to do earlier. Disappointing might be too harsh a word. Sunken souffle might be a better analogy).

Mainly been watching all the Misaeng specials and BTS and anything else I can get my hands on, not to mention marathoning Healer and any related info I can get my hands on!

In between, I've been watching Birth of a Beauty, which finishes up soon. It's fluffy and mindless, sure, and the levels of melo tropey-ness feel like they've been plucke straight out of a 90s kdrama - but surprisingly it's not as silly as I expected. Plus, really like the chemistry between the two leads!

Also keeping up with Roommate - thanks to @owl for the recaps! The dynamic of the new group works really well, and Young Ji and Jackson are the cutest bickering sibling pair ever!

After Gu Hara was on the show, I was curious about Young Ji's background, so I watched the KARA Project, where she was voted in as the new member of KARA. (I know little about KARA, except for Gu Hara's role in City Hunter.) Wow, talk about a side to Young Ji that we rarely see!

Then I thought I'd look at Ryohei's path to fame too, so started watching Roaring Currents. Haven't finished it yet, but so far it's EPIC.

January 10, 2015 at 5:36 AM

haha, who knows what I was thinking at that hour of the morning?!!

Very apt, though: "a woman happily in love, she burns the soufflé. A woman unhappily in love, she forgets to turn on the oven."! (btw, I love that version of Sabrina with Audrey Hepburn and Humphrey Bogart!)

But there was definitely a Wallace & Gromit reference in there (cheeeese)! :)

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January 10, 2015 at 5:14 PM

Yeah, I thought the quote was perfect so I'm just going to go ahead and give you credit for it....even if you aren't sure you were making a reference, lol.

And I love both Sabrina and Wallace & Gromit! You have excellent taste even outside of the world of kdramas ;)

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January 10, 2015 at 5:55 PM

Thanks kindly @4D!

Other commenters have noted that our OTP has rather, er, limited cooking skills, so maybe any baking should be done by Dad! Better keep any explosive chemistry out of the kitchen! (but on rooftops and such, it's fine fine fine)

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January 9, 2015 at 8:15 AM

it's quite interesting to see that there are dramas that draw you, some that don't and some that u forget about. But dis year has interesting dramas and more to come.

1. Healer yaaaaaa...of course I t would be the 1st I talk about LOL. There's hasn't been a show that has been able to draw me in emotionally(more dan I can ever imagine)than this show. Don't get me wrong,other k-dramas ve different ways to give u feels but HEALER, nah, the show just draws you like a magnet. I just hope it stays that way.
writer-nim, pls don't disappoint me.

I have the .srt files for the first 2 episodes.

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revlow

January 10, 2015 at 12:07 PM

Hi Ek Ladhki Thi, You might want to try the browser plugin called Hola, which allows you to appear as if you are browsing from another country. I've had good luck with it.

Here's where you get it: https://hola.org/ -- it will recocgnize what browser you are using and give you the appropriate plugin for:

Chrome extension
Firefox add-on

It will also work with Internet Explorer, but different method. Here are the details:

Which operating systems, browsers and devices can I use Hola on?

Hola may be installed as a browser extension to Chrome (version 22 and up) and Firefox (version 23 and up) on Windows and Mac PCs or as an app on Android. It is also available as an application (.exe) for Windows (for users that are using Internet Explorer). The Hola application for PC should also be used in countries with deeper censorship where the Hola extension does not work. All downloads are accessible directly from our home page. (Installation and use of Hola is subject to our Terms of service and Privacy policy). Hola does not yet run on the Safari browser, iOS and Windows media center.

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January 9, 2015 at 10:00 AM

oh, I forgot to mention: in the neighborhood where I live, kind of this bohemian /hipster district of wooden houses and pubs and cafes, someone has put up posters that he is a local carpenter and opening a workshop LOL I instantly thought of Carpenter Kim in Valid Love!!!

Just LOL.

looking forward to some real life juicy stories. I would just be the spy...

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January 9, 2015 at 1:09 PM

Please knock on the door and check him out,,,, maybe he will be your Carpenter Kim!?

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January 9, 2015 at 11:55 AM

Happy New Year! I posted throughout the thread so much that I thought I'd spill over to my other viewing love, Downton Abbey with a favorite quote from season 5
opening episode: “We need a way for you to live the truth without telling the truth.”
I just like that.

For all the Downton Abbey fans who can stomach a peek at a few moments of an irreverent evening with the gang in the name of PBS and other things British, I present:

http://www.thewrap.com/george-clooney-takes-over-downton-abbey-in-charity-holiday-spoof-video/

I have to say Mr. Mosley's tattoos are shocking even beyond Mrs Hughes' Madame of the Night garb. Did you ever??

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January 9, 2015 at 4:17 PM

Oooh, looks good. I heard about Dame Maggie swooning. Can't wait to watch! Thanks, @owl! :)

Hey everybody...happy OT!

It's been quite the cold week, with unexpected 4" of snow and then bitterly coldness. I love snow, but not when it turns into ice -.-

Pinocchio: I left a comment on the ep17 thread, but I do think it's back on track to being interesting again -- as much as I love the show, it has been a bit draggy. But it's now at a crossroads as to what Ro-sa is gonna pull, whether Cha-ok will sacrifice herself to save In-ha, and whether this whole dang conspiracy will ever be brought to life on the news. I'm liking that Yoo-rae is getting more screen time because she's been a sparkplug of comedy for me here...as well as Grandpa and Awesome Dad. And I am glad that Beom-jo hasn't become typical assy second lead, even more now that he knows his mom was the source of destructing Dal-po's family. It's being hinted at that he's probably going to be the one to reveal his mom's deeds, but it would be mighty interesting if Cha-ok would really take Dal-po's offer and out herself. I just want more cute moments of the Choi family, Hyung, and Yoo-rae finally getting some love her way! ;)
Random Q-I've always wondered because I think I didn't catch it, but who is the singer that Yoo-rae stans?

Healer: When I saw last Tuesday's recap, I did a double take with the # of comments...then again with this week's eps! WHOA. I wanted to leave a comment but thought it had plenty enough lol :P But I'm loving that it's getting so much love...because it's definitely warranted. I LOVE JUNG-HOO!!! ;) Gah, his little displays of affection for Young-shin, stealing glances at her & their cute moments = Young-shin is one lucky gal!! I also was impressed that he confessed to liking her readily, even if she is liking Healer and not knowing they're one and the same. I suppose I wanted Young-shin to find out that Jung-hoo=Healer first but it makes it interesting that Moon-ho knows. Moon-shik has some parallels with Cha-ok of Pinocchio...but nah, I still don't feel sympathy for either.

Kill Me, Heal Me: Caught bits of the first ep, but it didn't really grab me. It was a bit jarring at times, although I admit I'll probably be watching both this and Jekyll Hyde & Me. I'll rewatch it again this weekend.

I got a little over 2 weeks before I go back for the spring semester, and I have yet to marathon the shows I've been meaning to! I don't know how yall do it...it's been hard enough to catch just my 2 faves! I gotta learn more time management for sure! :)

Have a great weekend, yall! :)

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January 9, 2015 at 4:06 PM

Hi!!the singer in Yoo-rae's phone is Heechul, Kim Heechul! ^^

January 9, 2015 at 2:53 PM

Does anyone here Siwan's fans?

Don't click or you are going to be shocked and regret!

http://forever-zea-nine.tumblr.com/post/107521703061/the-charming-and-handsome-im-siwan

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January 9, 2015 at 2:58 PM

i was wondering why the rate of new comments in the healer ep11 was starting to slow down and now i understand. So this is where everyone has been.
i see the "healer ruined us support group" has completely hijacked this thread lol

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January 9, 2015 at 4:49 PM

Hello! I'm studying economics, and I learned that in the company shareholders are one of the owners. And they just elect who they want to be president in their company. I know K-drama everything's possible, but those chaebols always known that their "father" OWNED the company. Then those will be the shareholder instead?

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January 9, 2015 at 5:42 PM

A shareholding company have persons holding shares on it. The founder/owner may or may not have majority shares in that company. A shareholding company is owned by its shareholders and governed by votes of a board, constituted among the biggest shareholders or their nominees.

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42 Pranx

January 9, 2015 at 5:50 PM

Death of the prickly chaebol hero

I hope that with Healer, Pride and Prejudice and Pinocchio, the rude chaebol hero trope has been consigned to the dustbin. Wonder if Jekyll and Hyde will revive it.

My take on current dramas

Healer: Candy fluff. Addictive, but in the end, empty.

Pride and Prejudice: Eating crabs. Delicious if you put in the effort, but the effort itself can tire you out.

Punch: Not everyone's cup of tea. But for those who like strong tea, its the best!

Pinocchio: Long strand of hair in whatever dish you are currently enjoying (thats what the redemption arc feels like)

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January 9, 2015 at 8:18 PM

Hehe i like your food,drink discriptions of the shows. I agree with all except Healer.

Specially Pride is interesting but the cases got boring and the effort to watch the eps gets tiring at times.

Healer i agree started fluffy, ligh hero story but the mystery, the characters emotional depth makes it anything but empty.

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January 9, 2015 at 11:08 PM

I do like Healer for its fluff. JCW is totally killing it as Healer. I save it for watching after Punch, to unwind. The romance is cute. But will I come back to it? Maybe not.

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January 10, 2015 at 2:24 PM

Thanks for the Pinterest links, @revlow!

Much as I love Geu Rae, I think my fave pic in there is Wall Dog: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/296182112969305060!

Love the one of Geu Rae and the world map, too: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/296182112968709500.

Now just have to find one of Mr Oh with the heart-shaped city lights behind him!

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January 10, 2015 at 6:11 PM

Ooo. I hadn't see that one of Wall Dog, new since I last looked.

January 10, 2015 at 12:50 PM

Here's my take on current dramas I'm watching. First of all I couldn't agree more with ZogZog -- Misaeng has ruined me.

Valid Love -- I'm liking it. Hasn't bored me yet. It's interesting and different from any other Kdrama I've seen.

Pride and Prejudice -- I agree with KDramaNewbie. It's work to get through those crab legs. I guess too much work. I got stuck at Episode 15. This is shocking for me get this far and stop (hey, I ground my way through My Lovely Girl with Crystal from the Zombie School of Acting!). But I'm just not getting the payoff for my efforts. However, I think I'll give try Ep 15-20 as a marathon at some point. Comes highly recommended by owl, and I respect her opinions.

Seonam Girls High School -- I think I'm going to give this up. Thought it was clever at first, now mundane.

Healer -- I'm not as in love with this as everyone else. Other than the Hacker Ajumma and the Parkour leaps, seems pretty standard to me. Plus it tips over my tolerance of plastic surgery scale. I'll continue watching it, but not clamoring for each new episode. When I finish one it's sort of meh... but I'm glad enough I watched.

Pinocchio -- I like this. The back and forth "I shouldn't love you" "I can't help loving you" gets a little tiring, but the new chaebol/evil mommy is getting interesting. I'm enjoying it.

Sweden Laundry -- Like it. I have comments in another post above.

What Happens to My Family? -- Love it.

Birth of a Beauty -- Glad it's ending. I enjoyed parts of it, but spent most of the time screaming at the characters' idiocy.

1N2D -- Junkie

Roommate -- Double Junkie

Looking forward to trying the new batch once they get friggin' translated. (Seems to be slower everywhere, not just viki.)

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January 10, 2015 at 5:19 PM

Yes, it seems like it's so much harder to find fully subbed shows right now!! *sigh* I've become so impatient.

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January 10, 2015 at 6:04 PM

And even if I can't wait and jump in at 99% it's hit and miss. Sometimes it seems fine, other times hug chunks missing.

Oh, the woes of a Kdrama addict.

January 11, 2015 at 10:11 AM

Re Pride and Prejudice, I would suggest watching it till episode 17. You can consider it to be the end of the drama. I am. I am really not liking the latest twist.

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January 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM

LOL. Oh, boy. That does not bode well.

Last night I watched what I thought would be the end of Birth of a Beauty, only to realize they'd added another episode. Dang. I thought I'd be over with it. I don't know why I stay with these marginal shows. After last night's episode I thought "You know, this could have been an interesting two hour movie." Instead it's a 21 hour mess.

I am getting so tired of waiting for shows to get fully translated. I haven't even seen the 1st ep of Kill Me, Heal Me. It's still stuck at 99%. Guess I'll jump in anyway and hope for the best. I've watched some 99'ers that still have gaping holes.

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January 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM

New topic (if anyone is still lurking around):

Female Characters who started out Strong Women, only to become Weak and/or Childish Girls

I'll start it off...

**SPOILER ALERT for "Birth of a Beauty" and "Sweden Laundry"**

Birth of a Beauty -- Sara / Sa Geum-Ran
In the beginning she could fight off squads of bad guys and save people in distress. She was a judo champion. Now she can't even get loose of one guy who grabs a wrist. In last night's episode, which had the latter, she later talked about how strong she'd become as a kid once she dedicated herself to judo and became a champ. Huh?

Sweden Laundry -- Bae Young-Mi
She is the lead character's friend. In the beginning she was a tough cookie realist. A wise-cracker. Now she is nothing but a pile of goo, obtrusively swooning over the lead's brother. Would she fall for this slacker narcissist? Even if she'd had a crush on him for some time (they'd grown up together), you'd think she would have snapped out of it by now. After all, she wasn't this obsessive teenage stalker girl in the beginning of the show. So is this a new infatuation? Whatever the case she's lost sight of everything -- even her ruthless loan sharking that she'd been doing for years. And suddenly she drops everything to pine for a self-involved loser who wants nothing to do with her? Huh?

I won't even go into "The Greatest Marriage". That was just pathological what they did to her. What a waste of an interesting theme and character.

I know this seems to be a common development for Kdramas, but pull-lease! Maybe in addition to this topic we can celebrate the strong women who stayed strong women? (At the moment I'm drawing a blank. Not enough coffee yet, and just too pissed off at Kdrama-land's treatment of women.)

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January 11, 2015 at 1:46 PM

Oh, I just thought of one. Young-Yi in Misaeng. She had her demons, and dealt with them bravely. She didn't become a shell of her former self.

But then again, that was Misaeng. A very special one-off. I wish there could be more like that. Last night I actually considered starting it again -- for the 4th time! Can't seem to shake this withdrawal.

Back to the topic... any thoughts?

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January 11, 2015 at 11:27 PM

@revlow: checking back on the OT (some of us have been a bit distracted this week, and we all know why!)

Glad I could provide a laugh. :)

I was so downhearted about it yesterday that I was struggling to find any -- I wasn't even aware that I'd strayed from 2014 until now. You're right, beyond that I'm sure we could find lots more.

I have seen some older ones, but I wonder... was 2014 a particularly bad year?

I only started watching Kdramas 1 and 1/2 yrs ago. (66 Kdramas and 105 movies later, and I not just an addict but a Hard Core Addict? Is there a treatment facility?)

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