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1 kakashi
December 26, 2014 at 6:20 AM
I wish everyone only the best for the coming year! May all your hopes come true.
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shukmeister
December 28, 2014 at 12:15 PM
Kakashi -
Happy holidays to you too, especially given your busy busy schedule.
:-)
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2 zakin89
December 26, 2014 at 6:23 AM
Happy OT!
Hope everyone had a nice Christmas =) I for one had enough food for the next 2 weeks but I still have to sit through two rounds of fondue on Sunday and the 31st xD
Miseng is over and damn what a final week *sob* I will dearly miss Sales Team 3 and the newbies and all the other awesome characters ♥
Still have to watch the second eps of the WED/THU dramas but... dear lord the King in King's Face is annoying me -.-
Looking forward to Family Is Coming (yes I'll watch a weekend drama for once xD) and Kill Me, Heal Me and Heart to Heart though I'm not sure I will watch the latter bc I don't really like Choi Kang Hee but we'll see.
I also hope that viki gets the license for these dramas *starts praying*
I'm also very much liking Dr Frost whose episodes just fly by! I'm amazed every week how fast that hour is over =)
I am nearly caught up with my variety shows as well and I might even catch up on Healer bc my tlist is only writing good things about it :)
I wish everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR and may 2015 be full of new awesome dramas!
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4D
December 26, 2014 at 7:02 AM
Yes, watch Healer! I'm pleasantly surprised at how much I'm enjoying it. It's also one if the few shows I'm watching which hasn't gotten depressing yet....I think kdramas shouldn't be so dark during holidays lol.
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korfan
December 26, 2014 at 7:07 AM
I'm liking Healer also ..... and I've only watched 2 episodes!
So far, it's like a little action flick, with a deeper backstory of some sort.
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fab
December 26, 2014 at 8:24 AM
And at episodes 6 the back story got very very interesting. Awesome drama overall.
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dfwkimchi
December 26, 2014 at 9:50 AM
Yeah - Healer! i marathoned the 6 episodes starting on Christmas Eve into Christmas day!
Another 'new' hot face for me to spaz - Ji Change Wook!
I like Park Min Young's character here. Did NOT like her character in New Leaf.
Lots of intrigue - put the technology part is intriguing and Minja Ajummah is DAEBAK!
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4D
December 26, 2014 at 5:31 PM
Yeah Ji Chang Wook is a new discovery for me too. I'm trying to hold back on having a kneejerk reaction to his pretty face and marathoning Empress Ki (waaaaaay too many episodes for me to take on right now)!
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Chandler
December 26, 2014 at 12:19 PM
Oh, I'll join in this Healer party. I'm loving it.
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Lixie
December 26, 2014 at 8:34 AM
Healer is so much fun. :)
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3 whimsicalnet
December 26, 2014 at 6:36 AM
Happy holidays and a happy new year! May we all be blessed with many good dramas in 2015!
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4 naomi9l
December 26, 2014 at 6:37 AM
i heard WTF rumor that kim soo hyun won daesang.....OMG how can alien beating man with physicological complex,...,,,....
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sartorius
December 26, 2014 at 9:29 AM
Its because he's probably the only BIG star to actually show up! These "awards" shows just give stuff to people who show up.
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5 Wag_a_Muffin
December 26, 2014 at 6:37 AM
Merry Christmas, Cookies! And if you don't celebrate Christmas, then accept my wish and know that I'll accept any celebratory greeting you wish back at me.
I am thankful I found dramabeans. I am thankful FOR dramabeans (and all the hard working recappers and news sharers and dramabeaniebabies who post here.)
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jensredshoes
December 26, 2014 at 7:22 AM
Merry Christmas to you also WagAMuffin!
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Wag_a_Muffin
December 26, 2014 at 2:04 PM
I miss the like button!
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 8:29 AM
Merry Christmas to you too,... err can I call you Cupcake, Wag_a_Muffin? :)
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Wag_a_Muffin
December 26, 2014 at 2:05 PM
Of course.
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6 naomi9l
December 26, 2014 at 6:42 AM
Happy new year Too....hope next year we will welcome many amazing Kdrama ^^
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 8:33 AM
Yes, that is a hope all of us share, to a very great extent. May our drama watching days of 2015 be full of thought-provoking yet fun-filled entertainment which we can follow from beginning to end, without ending up feeling like we'd like to strangle the writer or PD or actor,.... you get the idea. Happy New Year!!! :D
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 2:16 PM
Or that start off with the best 2 hours of TV you've ever seen, then go straight into the toilet. (You hear me God's Gift and Angel Eyes?)
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 3:23 PM
@ revlow
I fortunately avoided You Hear Me and God's Gift, however I was OK with Angel Eyes. Lee Sang Yoon was easy on the eyes and the parts that were not drawn out or tropey were quite OK... but yeah, there were quite a lot of tropey parts *giggle*
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 3:34 PM
The first two hours of Angel Eyes had me crying like crazy. Kang Ha-Neul (Baek-Ki in Misaeng) was amazing, as were Nam Ji-Hyun and the rest. Kim Yeo-Jin as Mom and what happens? Dang that bathroom scene in Ep 2 had me weeping uncontrollably.
thursdaynexxt
December 27, 2014 at 7:36 PM
"Start off with the best 2 hours of TV you’ve ever seen, then go straight into the toilet."
LOL!! Yes, I hate it when they spend too much time in there!
The first 2 episodes of Angel Eyes were some of my favourite kdrama episodes this year. Kang Ha Neul didn't hurt, either! Kim Yeo Jin was amazing as the Best Mom.
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7 Tuushi
December 26, 2014 at 6:42 AM
Happy Days K-addicts.
Long time lurker and a fan of this place and its amazing people.Thnk u for making our addiction less insane.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 7:12 AM
Second that!
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tee
December 26, 2014 at 8:15 AM
+1
Happy Holidays everyone!! May we all have our dreams come true in the incoming year.
Thankful for the Beanie family and the entire Dramabeans Crew.
Thankful i found you this year.
Hope to see us all spazzing about awesome dramas in the incoming year
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 8:35 AM
+10 and I third that LOL!
But Tuushi, what makes you think my addiction or I am not insane? *maniacal laugh* ahem... *grin*
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Tuushi
December 26, 2014 at 9:41 AM
Some call it crazy when u fake a cold to stay home and marathon a show lools.
I am guilty of that.
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thursdaynexxt
December 27, 2014 at 7:38 PM
I heard that some people aren't interested in watching kdramas. What is wrong with them? :D
Welcome, and see you around the boards!
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8 bibapr57
December 26, 2014 at 6:43 AM
Merry Christmas beenies!!! I hope the end of 2014 and 2015 brings us good dramas and episodes. We shall see! Pride and Prejudice and Pinoccio has me in knots... I can't wait!!!
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9 redfox
December 26, 2014 at 6:44 AM
oh, friday?
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redfox
December 26, 2014 at 8:38 AM
hi there, I was sort of busy. had forgotten about Friday.
just sneaked into my Moms´place with the excuse of sending bills for workshops, Now I am long done and procrastinating, watching dramas. I want to catch up with Mr Back.
why is life so demanding, there is always some problem that appears just when you find time to rest. I had no time to eat on Christmas, cause this exhibition I applied to likes a different idea that I didnt manage to make in material, and they want it for January 16th.
gaaaaaah help meeeee! It´s a bigass tapestryyyyy...:!
but I did so much work already, I deserve a break.
what are the things that usually come between you and your dramas? Like, when you thought you finished everything and then bang! some kind of trouble is dropped right out of the blue, and you say, no way, I had all things covered!
oh, and Tim and Helena broke up. Who´se job will be taking Johnny depp for a walk?
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 9:01 AM
Hi redfox! Your life sounds a lot like my mother's, one crisis after another. But as she says, crises are only given to those who are strong enough to deal with them. I hope your tapestry gets finished in time!
So many things come between me and dramas - sleep, work, and occasionally even the OT itself! (between composing comments and replying, that can take a precious hour that could have gone to drama watching). And in winter, weddings. Lots of weddings.
Can't believe Tim and Helena broke up. And your comment about Johnny Depp being taken for a walk gives me the image of them putting a dog collar and leash on him. It's a funny image.
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redfox
December 26, 2014 at 9:09 AM
yes, going to weddings can be time consuming.
I imagine you trying to sneak a look at some drama at a wedding.
hmm isnt Johnny Depp supposed to get married next year? then... dont know about the walks.
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 10:02 AM
I saw a picture of the girl Johnny Depp is marrying.
No offence to anyone, but it shows all the symptoms of a classic case of midlife crisis, complete with trying to date and dress 20 years too young for him.
Beanfan
December 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM
I still haven't gotten over his divorce with Vanessa Paradis.. I've loved her since I watched, "Girl on the Bridge."
redfox
December 26, 2014 at 10:06 PM
oh, that is one of my favorite movies ever. it was constantly balancing on the edge of do or die.
10 Tuushi
December 26, 2014 at 6:46 AM
^^^Is it the Holidays.i kept wishing people a long weekend lol
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11 korfan
December 26, 2014 at 6:49 AM
Hello Everyone!
I hope you are all doing well today. ..... To all of those who celebrated the holiday, I hope you had a Merry Christmas!
Thanks to all you who made 2014 a lot more fun and interesting. ..... Drama-watching is made all that more enjoyable knowing that, all of you and the fabulous Dramabeans Team is along for the ride!
I wish all of you good things for the coming year.
Watched this week:
Secret Door - Still catching up on this. Due to the Christmas holiday, I fell a bit behind. ..... That King. Wow. The odds were always against the prince, it seems.
Healer - Just started watching this. ...... Definitely slick. ..... Definitely interesting. I'll keep watching and see what happens.
That's it for now. Everyone take care and have a Happy New Year!
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12 Sue
December 26, 2014 at 6:53 AM
I'm in a Caribbean cruise and suffering from serious drama withdrawals. The bandwidth here is not goog enough to watch anything. Does that mean I have to go out in the sun? Seriously, I'm here because my mother wanted to take a Christmas cruise with the family. But in my life she has dragged me to so many cruises I've lost count. This particular cruise I've been in two times before. So before you think I'm crazy for wanting to watch dramas here keep that in mind. Plus I live in Puerto Rico 5 minutes from the beach, so sun and surf don't have the appeal for me they have for others. At least my niece is a fellow kdrama lover, so I'm in good company. I'm also thankful that I'm able to spend quality time with everyone in my family, so rare these days. I hope you all have the opportunity to do the same. Happy Holidays everyone!
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Odessa Jones
December 26, 2014 at 7:14 AM
LOL! I guess if you already live somewhere sunny, a cruise is just a way to be deprived of dramas for a few days! But yes, I'm glad we're "forced" to do the quality time with family once a year! A cruise sounds like a great way to do it--no dirty dishes! Merry X-mas!
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shukmeister
December 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM
Sue -
My mother insisted that I not bring my computer during a family cruise last year. I interpreted that as "no laptop", so I brought my netbook and a 1T external hardrive full of lovely lovely dramas. Hey, I needed something with USB ports to recharge my camera and stuff, too! [shifty eyes]
That aside, I hope you enjoyed the cruise! While it's true that I live on the Atlantic Ocean, I also loved the chance to interact with my parents (who were celebrating their 57th anniversary on the cruise), and my sibs and their children, who also were on the cruise.
My nephew and I both love anime so we had a spirited discussion of what is the best mecha-show ever created, before most of went to the piano bar for karoke and to see Dad serenade Mom with a Tony Bennett toon. :-)
Then at night it was time to snuggle down with Monstar.
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revlow
December 28, 2014 at 7:18 PM
Is Monstar good? I'm intrigued since it's the same director as Misaeng.
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shukmeister
December 30, 2014 at 6:40 PM
revlow -
I liked it! The plot is typical high school bad boys versus richy snobs, but Jun-hyung of B2ST did a great job for his debut drama, and the music was enjoyable. And anything with Kang Ha-neul is worth a peek.
But it is not an intellectual stretch, or a thought-provoking treatise on the education system or anything like that. :-)
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13 4D
December 26, 2014 at 7:00 AM
Happy Holidays Beanies!! I had a wonderful Christmas with my mother coming down to the city....and we went out and indulged with Korean BBQ! Sooooo delicious.
On the other hand I am now behind in all my dramas.
Healer - I got to see episode 5 but have seen 6 yet. This show is unexpectedly adorable. I am really enjoying it and don't realize how much I like it until the episode ends and I can't remember where the last hour went. I hope they're able to keep up the tone of this show.
Let's Eat - watched episode 9 with my mom. She wanted to see some if the food scenes if talked about...and if course it's the episode where she goes put with her mom to a place with hot dogs, nachos, and popcorn lol. So much for showing off the Korean food.
Dr. Frost - I'm through episode 4 now. I'd thought from previews that this might be a turning point episode but nope. The way they shoot things makes it really obvious for viewers what's going on and so the surprise element is usually gone. Frost also doesn't seem that smart when the audience is clued in before he is. I may have to put this in hold. I really want to like it but it's not happening.
Behind now in Pinocchio, P&P, and Modern Farmer as well. Sigh. I'll probably watch MF at work today.
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14 Diana
December 26, 2014 at 7:02 AM
Merry Christmas all,
Dear santa, please give us SEASON 2 OF LIAR GAME ^_*
More Romantic Scenes of Healer and Chae Young Shin :*
and health for our Recappers hehe
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4D
December 26, 2014 at 7:06 AM
Dear Santa, please include me in the list if wishers for Liar Game Season 2! It's really the only way I'll be ok with that ending (I still like the show I just....ah!)
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opaque
December 26, 2014 at 8:41 AM
Same!! I really want a season 2 ᵔᴥᵔ
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United
December 26, 2014 at 8:55 AM
I wonder how popular liar game really was in Korea and hope it doesn't prevent season 2 from coming out. The ratings weren't great, but I heard it received some critical praise in Korea.
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redfox
December 26, 2014 at 12:33 PM
yes, yes, yes, please!
not just cause the fans want it, but all the actors were clearly enjoying it and they ALL did good parts. I want to see the actress who played Jaimie return, and Shin Sung Rok was quite visibly having the time of his life playing Do Young. we need to give them a chance to encore!
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united
December 26, 2014 at 1:21 PM
Also, this show needs a season 2 to answer its unanswered questions.
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15 CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 7:10 AM
Hello all:
Hoping everyone had a wonderful Christmas, Winter Solstice, Kwanza, Chanukah! And hoping everyone has a great 2015.
Dramas:
Missing Misaeng. <-- yeah, some wordplay cannot be resisted.
King's Face: I do not know why this drama is not working for me. Seo In Guk is really good but the meh factor is pretty powerful.
Valid Love: Am liking the story but not buying the main female character. Am I so makjangized that I just have a really high standard for suffering? Waiting to see if hubby and lover are related. (Yeah, too much makjang, i guess.) Really interested in how Paralyzed Sis sub-plot fits into the overall theme of stasis and maturity.
That little whiff of Right-to-die debate in that little conversation between stunted younger sun and stunted dead was a little scary. Would "valid love" mean pulling the plug on Paralyzed Unnie? Or straight-up murdering her so she could be free? Would young lover-boy do that kind of thing? Gonna keep watching it cause Uhm Force's pain is enthralling to watch and Lee Soo Hyuk is majorly hot. Anyone else think the female researcher might be the one sending the jealousy-inducing messages to hubby?
Seonam Girl's High School Detective: Now this is aegyo done right!
Between Punch and What's With this Family? (Valid Love, Secret Door, and Modern Farmer as well) I feel as if I've been spending a lotta dramatime waiting for someone to die. Hope I can handle it. I might watch Mr. Back but..will that be another case of waiting around for another character's death? Dramaland, don't get me morbid thinking of mortality...give me a Miracle Ex Machina.
Everyone's been praising Healer so now I'm trying to just jump in. Apparently my kneejerk reaction bugaboo about birth secrets should be challenged. And I should just push myself and grow out of it. Or else, I'll be avoiding a lotta good dramas all the time. Might do some marathoning since it's only up at 6 episodes.
Waiting, waiting, waiting for Unkind Women, and wishing I could find a good anime. Might treat myself to Attack on Titan this weekend.
That's about it. Have a great weekend, all! Thanks to all the great recappers on Dramabeans for all the great work they've done this year.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 7:15 AM
did i write "stunted younger sun and stunted dead"? Darn, the brain! (And the lack of proofing before I click.)
Meant "stunted younger son and stunted dad."
Or maybe there's some weird Freudian slip thing going on.
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korfan
December 26, 2014 at 7:28 AM
Carole -
"Am I so makjangized...."
*laughing*
Definitely a term only a dedicated kdrama watcher can come up with!
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lulu88
December 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM
+1
That was a clever: "makjanized"
*applauds*
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dramaqueen4
December 26, 2014 at 2:11 PM
Thanks as always for your thoughtful comments, Carole. Did you think Carpenter Kim's character seemed more sympathetic this week? Still trying to figure him out. And yes, there's something off about that researcher...
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:34 AM
I like him a lot; i do worry about what he might do to "free" Ilri. He seems to have fallen in "rescue-love" with her. Which can be dangerous if it's taken too far. Knights in white horses can be dangerous, especially if they don't really understand "family."
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 11:03 AM
Did I write "knights IN white horses"? Ah, gosh, Carole learn to proof before you click! I meant, of course, "knights ON white horses." I know of no knights inside horses...but I suspect that if I did, I would find them even more dangerous than knights ON white horses.
revlow
December 27, 2014 at 2:07 PM
LOL!!!
4D
December 26, 2014 at 7:33 AM
Healer marathon for the win! I think it's a pretty easy show to get sucked into.
I've been curious about Seonam Girl's but wasn't sure if people were watching...I've been looking for reactions to it.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 7:40 AM
The first part of Seonam Girl is flighty and fluffy with this cruel crime going on. So we get to know everyone at first. The girls are all pretty cute and typical of Shoujo. It's sweet... but the darkness of high school and of estranged parents keeps peeking in. Am only at the first episode with the biting crime.
I'll catch up on Healer by Monday. Fingers crossed.
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4D
December 26, 2014 at 5:35 PM
*crosses fingers* Me too....but I only have one episode. I'd like to try and catch up with all my shows though but that's going to be tough. I have one Healer, one Modern Farmer, three Pride & Prejudice, three Pinocchio.....and then a few if I want to try Seonam Girl.
Not to mention I'm really enjoying Let's Eat and I want to ignore the rest and watch it haha. Why do I need alife outside of kdramas?
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comix
December 26, 2014 at 11:30 AM
I watched the second episode last night. It gets darker, lots darker. But I'm still enjoying it.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 2:32 PM
Yes, much creepier than I anticipated. I am for the most part enjoying it. Has some clever bits thrown in.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 7:42 AM
So wish they'd translated this. Missing Misaeng a lot and this hit the spot even though I didn't understand a word they were saying. http://youtu.be/dyrbwOp-Z28
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 2:34 PM
Geez, I can't even watch this without tears welling up. And I don't understand a word they are saying. :-(
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Odessa Jones
December 26, 2014 at 7:47 AM
I love K-drama new year's resolutions like this one:
"grow out of kneejerk reaction bugaboo about birth secrets"! That covers a LOT of shows.
Birth secrets are another cliche I have a weakness for. (Is there any cliche I don't love?) I've come across real-life examples that are as weird as anything on TV, and literature has a few good ones, too. One of my favorite novels is Graham Green's "Travels with my Aunt," which has a good understated British birth secret, no makjang involved. And I love that one of our most ancient, most human and interesting stories has at its heart a totally makjang birth secret (Moses). I imagine people sitting around a fire five thousand years ago getting totally absorbed in his story.
It's really emotionally profound to think about what would be different in our lives if we had different parents, and what would be the same. What's the center of our identity, and what's the stuff we picked up along the way? Would we feel differently about the world with different parents? The philosophical questions are cool, if the writer can bring them up without too much makjang.
I hope you'll let us know how your "birth secret bugaboo" project goes. I'm interested to hear your thoughts about which birth secrets work for you and which ones don't. Are there shows you rejected when a birth secret showed up? Good luck, and a very happy new year!
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 8:18 AM
I hope to succeed in my resolution.
With me the birth secret thing is kinda personal. And it's not so much about hypothetically being born in a different family, it's more about the emotional pain of separation.
There was a major custody battle between my mother and my paternal grandmother when I was a kid and my paternal grandmother stole me from my mother at one point. It was very traumatizing looking around for my mother and not seeing her..and my grandmother saying I wasn't going to go back home.
This really affected me and kinda marked my psyche I think. In fact, I was so afraid of my child being stolen at the hospital that I went through my pregnancy in a state of hypertension. And when my younger son was diagnosed as autistic, the issue became even worse. Now it was no longer the lost child, but the sick/disabled child stories that I couldn't watch. Everytime I hear of some lost autistic kid or some murdered child or some child who went into a coma or some stolen child, my fibromyalgia flares. Did I forget to mention that sanity is not my strongpoint. I do address some of these issues in my novels as storytelling is my most elegant use of my neuroses. But I still have problems watching stories with these themes, even if they are comedies.
The good dramas I dropped were the sajeuk Su-Baek, King's Daughter. I held out (against the kneejerk rejection) when heroine didn't tell her lover she was pregnant. I was pretty proud of my bravery there. Then there was the baby switching and that was too much for me. Am not sure I can deal with that.
Recently dropped a daily You are the Only One, because the Mom gave up her child and now grown child is searching for Mom.
I gave up Secret but returned because everyone loved it so much. But I had a negative reaction to heroine having to pretend she was her child's "aunt" at the end. Even thinking about that now is getting me weepy. I dropped Rainbow Family, although I love Jung Il Woo.
I kinda sorta made it through Birth of a Beauty and I made it through Incarnation of Money.
I avoided Mother (J-drama) and Mama though. And simply could watch Nobody Knows, a Japanese film. (I kept running out the room and asking my husband how everything was going.) I also did that with "Time of Drunken Horses" an Iranian film.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 4:24 PM
Oh, my gosh Carole. Your childhood sounds so traumatizing. I'm so sad to hear what you went through.
Made me think of Gloria Vanderbilt. I don't think I can recommend it to you, but to anyone else, her autobiography Once Upon a Time: A True Story is a fascinating memoir of her early childhood.
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 10:19 PM
@ Carole McDonnell
Thanks for sharing your personal story. I wanted to respond earlier but had to go out. I too am sorry that you had to go through that experience and that it has actually affected what shows you can bring yourself to watch. It is a reminder that we cannot dismiss lightly in others, what may appear as idiosyncrasies to us, but which might be the result of a traumatic experience for them.
CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM
Oh it was pretty harrowing, definitely. But I survived.
CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:36 AM
LOL @Growingbeautifully
True! People do tend to think I'm odd and eccentric when they meet me but after a while they see I'm pretty okay.
thursdaynexxt
December 27, 2014 at 8:10 PM
Thanks for sharing your story, Carole. That's a lot of baggage, but really admire your attitude, courage and compassion - it really comes through in your comments!
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Odessa Jones
December 28, 2014 at 8:47 AM
You're so amazing, CM. Thanks for sharing your story, which is genuinely like something in a K-drama. When traumatic stuff happens, we might need to avoid stories about it. It's a luxury to be able to think of birth secrets as a distant, theoretical thing. I'm sending a ton of good wishes for your "birth secret project" this year!
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fab
December 26, 2014 at 8:54 AM
Good one!
Feast of The Gods had a great idea for a birth secret. But somehow it failed miserably in the execution. I was so bummed out that I just didn't watch the ending.
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 8:13 AM
Carole - my life is Misaeng without that drama, I tell you!
I was rather long-faced for a while today when I realised that Friday would no longer bring me my favourite Sales Team - no more puppy and friends! /sad face
Ah, well, I hope the cast is taking a well-deserved rest. They certainly seem to have had a good time on their group holiday in the Philippines, Byun Yo-han posted the most adorable instagram photos of them (Lee Sung-min looking like a classic dorky tourist with a hat.....I am dead).
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 2:39 PM
ME TOO!!! I was going to write exactly that after reading through the comments. Friday will never be the same. :-(
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 2:42 PM
Didn't realize they were on a group holiday. I'll have to look at those photos!
Side note: Did you see my long-winded post to you yesterday about all things Byun Yo-han...filmography, social media, etc? Just making sure.
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 6:42 PM
I did see your comment with the Byun Yo-han filmography! Thanks so much for leaving it, it's a huge help :)
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 7:38 PM
Great! You're welcome. :-)
growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 8:22 AM
@ Carole McDonnell
Great, you started on Valid Love. I was hoping that there'd be a thread here to discuss it. Anyone else watching this show?
1) I too have difficulty with Il Ri. In fact, I find I cannot like any of the main characters. I find them so hard to identify with (unlike the characters of Misaeng, how I miss it too....)
2) I read in the previous OT, (I think it was), comments that could explain her character, and I thought maybe one might be able to understand her or feel a bit sorry for her..., however the way she is portrayed, as someone rather out of control, just rushing in headlong, being impetuous or thoughtless, immature... somehow does not work for me. Maybe she is written to be an anti-hero? Not the kind of main character one would root for?
3) The question your raised about who is sending those photos is something that occurred to me. I wondered if Carpenter Kim himself had got someone to take photos to send to Jang Hee Tae to mess up their marriage.
4) I was shocked actually that when he first received the message, he allowed his colleagues to know what was upsetting him. It would have been something best kept hidden (dirty laundry and all that) and now he is faced with their curiosity and questions (his own fault). If anything happens to Kim or Il Ri, he'd come under suspicion now that other people know the situation he's in.
5)As for Il Ri's friend taking issue with her over her love affair, what gives her the right? Too intrusive but dramas seem to depict it as the norm and the characters do not seem to get all that upset with this kind of intrusion. I find it upsetting but maybe that's just me.
6) I'm waiting to know how sister, Hee Soo, got paralyzed. The parts of the show I actually like are when Hee Soo is 'talking' and we see what's in her mind. She has some pretty good insights, if only she could speak to Il Ri.
7) Uhm force was like a dull force until he got jealous. It's only now that I'm beginning to find him interesting. He seems to be doing what I'd expect, and maybe what many others might do in the same situation. Leave it alone and hope for the best or confront and really blow everything up. It may seem like the cowardly way, but this I find understandable.
8) That is a valid point about Valid Love. What is valid in the name of love? To kill someone (put him/her out of misery), to force that person to stay alive and to accept care against his/her will? To insist on loving or marrying someone when one may not be mature enough to have decided? To go with one's feelings and hang the rest of society?
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 8:36 AM
Wow! I had the same idea/worry about Carpenter Kim. But does he know anyone in town -- does he know anyone period?-- who could help him do that?
Jomo wrote a first impression of Valid Love here: http://yobosayo.wordpress.com/2014/12/23/valid-love-first-impressions-2/
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Lixie
December 26, 2014 at 8:48 AM
I'm watching VL and I love it. :) The holidays were busy so I haven't checked this week's eps yet. There were really a lot of comments on the last OT about her personality and I think you have a good grasp on her, she really is super impulsive and even her husband tells us that. She is also sometimes careless and selfish, though she has a caring and responsible side too.
I don't think we need to like her or accept what she does or excuse her actions in order to enjoy the show. I like all characters, even though I consider ALL of them to be rather selfish people, they are so human. :)
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spazmo
December 26, 2014 at 10:05 AM
regarding VL - i was taken aback when her husband forced his kiss on her and pulled her into the bedroom. kudos to lee si young for that look on her face... the drama is turning dark...
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 12:20 PM
Yeah, I find myself wondering if murder or some such is afoot. ;-) ahead.
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 10:22 PM
The husband's behaviour is what I'd expect of any husband who feels betrayed by an unfaithful wife, and before the affair is aired between them, ie before she knows he knows. He was re-staking his claim or rights out of anger/spite.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM
Plus there's the older man needing to show his woman that older men can be passionate in bed. Let's not forget the age disparity and the "youth" of the intruder in hubby's marital bed. A man's sense of his virility is at stake here.
United
December 26, 2014 at 9:03 AM
It's good to know someone else is watching Seonam Girl. I like the quirkiness and directing style of this show.
I'm watching Healer, but I'm not loving it. I love the rom com part of the show, but I'm turned off by everything else, which includes the action and cliche birth secrets.
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Chandler
December 26, 2014 at 12:45 PM
I'm actually not turned off at all by the birth secrets in Healer, despite usually having an aversion for them, because I'm enjoying the execution and the tone of the show so far. I think it's something about the mystery surrounding the five friends and their pirate radio broadcast...the birth secret feels like it could be a result of something much bigger. The drama has been deliberate about not unveiling everything at once which is making me interested in the backstory in a way I'm usually not. So for me, I guess Healer is taking a cliche I usually hate and making it fresh and engrossing. And I really like that. (Of course, this all depends on me still being as satisfied when the mystery does unravel)
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 7:44 AM
Misaeng Special http://tv.soompi.com/en/watch/25145
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 2:08 PM
It's fabulous!
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16 Odessa Jones
December 26, 2014 at 7:28 AM
Happy holidays, everyone! I feel so thankful I found the community here! American TV lately makes me want to emigrate. (Repeat to self: highly rated shows about zombie apocalypse are not indicators of end of civilization.)
A great X-mas present: my high-powered baby sister the doctor is taking her longest vacation possibly EVER in a couple days. TWO weeks in a row to stay at home and chill out. After listening to me burble about K-dramas for ages, she asked for my staycation recommendations. A big responsibility! I have great hopes of not only reeling her in, but also her good-natured boyfriend who likes corny stuff more than she does. Apparently he wanted to watch "Annie" the other day. Where did she find this guy? I just wish she didn't live 2000 miles away. It would be fun to watch with a live person!
I hope everyone here is having joyful holidays and I wish you all a prosperous, healthy and happy new year!
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 7:51 AM
@ Odessa Jones
LOL! "It would be fun to watch with a live person!"
I'd never think you'd watch with one who wasn't!!! LOLOL!
I know exactly what you mean but I just had to say this... You can watch with me, I'm alive! Just not very near to you *laughing so hard*
Cheers!!!
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Odessa Jones
December 26, 2014 at 8:17 AM
@ Growing beautifully
LOL! Glad you laughed! I thought of that when I was writing that sentence. I don't want anyone to think I'm hanging out with zombies! And I feel like I'm watching with everyone at Dramabeans, so I am sort of watching with other people, just not--um--present and accounted for people?
But does that mean Beanies are unaccounted for? Or maybe unaccountable? lol
Merry holidays!
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 8:27 AM
:)
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 8:23 AM
@Odessa Jones - oh dear, the new Annie? I've heard that's terrible (which is sad, because I love the little girl they cast as Annie).
It depends on your sister's taste, but if committing to entire kdramas at a go is too much, how about drama specials? KBS has some good ones available to view on their youtube channel - I am especially fond of Anticipate Love (aka Expect To Date and other names) and Sirius. Twenty Years Old is also adorable and fluffy. And all of these are 4 episodes or less!
If your sister is bent on full-length dramas,try Shut Up Flower Boy Band (I think the start-a-band-with-friends theme is pretty universal) or Answer Me 1997, Queen In-hyun's Man, or You From Another Star. (I recommend QIHM and Arang and the Magistrate if your sister is open to sageuks)
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spazmo
December 26, 2014 at 10:11 AM
pogo - all my favs!
im siwan was excellent in Anticipate Love!
seo joon young was excellent in Sirius!
gikwang was cute in 20 Years Old!
if the boyfriend likes "corny" - shouldn't they start with My Girlfriend is a Nine-Tailed Fox? adorably corny cute!
; )
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 10:20 AM
of course they should! Because it's Shin Mina, aka The Most Beautiful Woman In The Known Universe.
But if we're trying Hong sisters levels of corny, maybe Delightful Girl Chun-hyang is a good place to start? I mean, you can't get cornier than a contract marriage between high schoolers.
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spazmo
December 26, 2014 at 10:33 AM
i must get back to that one... i started it some time ago...
; )
pogo
December 26, 2014 at 10:23 AM
P.S. re: Sirius, I also want to give praise to Park Hyung-shik, who plays the teenage double role of Eun-chang and Shin-woo.
He was SO GOOD, seriously.
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spazmo
December 26, 2014 at 10:36 AM
*pun*!!
and yes, you're right... i can only remember one name from dramas, sadly... usually remember the cutie leads that become my "flavor of the month"...
; )
pogo
December 26, 2014 at 10:25 AM
oops and now this is spamming
But I also want to give props to the girls of Anticipate Love (and Choi Daniel of course, who is a master of smirky hurt) - to BoA and Kim Ji-won. And also to Lee Da-in, who basically carried Twenty Years Old even though it was her acting debut (where is her agency hiding her, really?)
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 10:33 AM
Uhmmmmmmm.. Anticipate Love, you say??? Now I've got to add something else to my list. I just added Another Parting to my youtube list because crazyahummas suggested it...and because Seo In Guk is in it. So many dramas so little time.
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spazmo
December 26, 2014 at 10:38 AM
it's not siwan's 'best look' - but he was oh-so-good in it... such a nerdly... but a sweetheart...
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spazmo
December 26, 2014 at 10:38 AM
it's only 2 eps, isn't it?
pogo
December 26, 2014 at 10:53 AM
It's only 2 eps, Carole! Hardly any commitment.
I was really impressed by how nuanced the characters were, particularly the second leads (that's Im Shi-wan and Kim Ji-won - he's a nerd and she is a classic bitchy female second lead, but they both play their characters with such an edge of vulnerability that I can't hate either of them, even at their worst).
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 4:34 PM
I agree. Drama specials might be the way to go. I'll look through my list.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 5:47 PM
Okay, dug some specials/ mini-series:
* I'm Dying Soon - (KBS Drama Special / 2014.04.04) With Oh Jung-Se and the adorable Kim Seul-Gi
* Kang Koo's Story (2014) - TV Movie - 2 episodes.
* Old Goodbye (aka Old Farewell, or Old Hello) MBC Drama Festival. (2014). With the Jjangs (Jang Hyuk & Jang Na-Ra) of FTLY.
* Our Slightly Risque Relationship -- KBS2 Drama Special (2010)
* Rock Rock Rock (2010) Four-episode drama special. Biopic about the life of Boohwal lead guitarist Kim Tae-won. No Min-woo is quite good in this.
Lastly, and I know I'm going to get pummeled for this...
* Haneuljae's Murder (2013) MBC Drama Festival
Cute, lightweight fun mini-series:
* After School: Lucky or Not (1st Season, 2013)
* Be Arrogant (aka Dodohara) (2014)
* Infinite Power (2013) sort of meh, but I'm leaving out the real mehs. Plus yet again there is the adorable Kim Seul-Gi.
Could go on. Will stop there.
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Odessa Jones
December 28, 2014 at 8:37 AM
Oh my gosh! So many series and specials to add to my list! I listed a bunch of shows for my sister and I told her which ones have endings that will make her cry and which will make her laugh. Crossing my fingers she won't think I'm crazy after watching some!
revlow
December 28, 2014 at 8:35 PM
Hi Odessa,
I just saw your blog -- how cool! (You can get to it by clicking "Odessa Jones" at the top of her postings).
I'm sure you know this, but for those who don't:
KBS Drama Specials
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMf7VY8La5RFDYJ5Q2kKXIw3KSptfNHUM
MBC Drama Festival
http://www.hulu.com/drama-festival
Anyone know if there are others?
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dfwkimchi
December 26, 2014 at 10:09 AM
I'm from the Dallas area and I have pretty much STOPPED watching American TV for the last 24 months and have been watching mainly Kdramas.
There was nothing to watch - only reality shows. I get bored with cast and show premise after 2 seasons - so alot of the series just don't grab me (the exception is the Law and Order series). I like the 16, 20+ or the 50+ episodes of kdrama. After the show - i move on to the next cast and plot/show!
Saved $800 annually since 2012 when i cut off my cable - have not missed it since!!
So many kdramas and so little time!!
I am very thankful for streaming sites and this forum here at Dramabeans that adds to the fun and educattional aspects of watching kdrama with a virtual community.
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17 jensredshoes
December 26, 2014 at 7:32 AM
Merry Christmas! I'm from the Chicago suburbs and am flying to LA next month to see FT Island in concert. I'd love to meet up with any dramabeanies who are going too. I'm gonna pretend it's a mini Korean vacation and spend the day in Korea town before the show. Will I see any of you there?
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dfwkimchi
December 26, 2014 at 10:03 AM
Lucky u!! -- I read this past week that they had added NY and LA concert dates for late Jan.
I am in the Dallas area and SOOOO TEMPTED to use my advantage miles to go to LA to watch them.
I have been streaming many of FTIsland's old concert on youtube in the past month (i found out about them from watching Lee Hong Ki in Modern Farmer) and i really enjoy their rock music!!
Wish they would add a Dallas date - more and more Kpop groups have been performing here - 2PM is the most recent one.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM
@ dfwkimchi. Did you watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_fwtUmsn8 yet. They are crazy good in this! They take up the first 1/2 of the concert.
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dfwkimchi
December 27, 2014 at 4:31 PM
@revlow - thanks for sharing - they are an energetic group!
Like i said - this 50+ ajhumma will go rock and head bang with the young'uns if FTIsland comes to Dallas! But until then i have to be satisfied with streaming their concerts on youtube while doing house work and the MTV Unplugged special to relieve stress.
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 4:44 PM
I could not believe how much running and leaping around Hongki did in that concert -- NONSTOP. And he never lost his breath! I'll have to watch the MTV Unplugged special. Thanks for the recommendation.
Grooveshark.com has a pretty good playlist of their songs. I find Pandora and Spotify pretty useless for Asian music, whereas I can often find it at Grooveshark. I'll listen to the Seo In-Guk playlist on the rare occasions I get off my butt and do housework.
thursdaynexxt
December 27, 2014 at 8:56 PM
If you see them, can you remind them there's a rather largeish island called "Australia" they might want to check out? We've got great beaches and adventure sports!
Hong-ki's a powerhouse, and the number of songs in their discography is just insane (plus they do Korean, Japanese and Chinese versions of songs)!
I love Hong-ki running around the stage, but particularly love the FT ISLAND MTV Unplugged concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEbLeSMUmkM. Jaejin does a cute intro at one point with Elsa's "Let It Go", which morphs into FT Island's "Let It Go". After all, they did it first, haha!
revlow
December 27, 2014 at 10:07 PM
LOL! Yes, I think I might have heard of that little island. :-D "...beaches and adventure sports." LOL! I can't stop laughing.
Thanks for the link! I will definitely watch.
owl
December 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM
Hi jensredshoes, a mini Korean vacation, sounds fun! I have all the FT Island's Hangul Live 4 minute Korean lessons on my blog (click owl). They are on lesson 37 and have promised a year's worth, 52 lessons. It's fun, they throw in a little music, skits, and review.
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18 kanz
December 26, 2014 at 7:45 AM
Happy Holidays everyone!!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! ^^
Time to catch up with lots of dramas, Misaeng, Pride and Prejudice, King's Face, etc.
I love what I'm seeing so far in two dramas about reporters, Healer and Pinocchio. Although reporters/journalism, maybe only have 1/3 portion in Healer. Both deal with injustice, wealthy people who can buy and change the news, social problems and accidents in the past. It's scary to see that reporters don't have the real power to report the news, because it's all set from the higher-ups. News can be spinned in a way so what we get in media maybe not exactly the truth. I learned about this in uni for a while, but to see it unravel in front of my eyes in form of dramas are completely different experience.
We have a set of idealistic and righteous reporters, Kim Moon Ho and Chae Young Shin in Healer and 4 rookie reporters in Pinocchio. But their ambition to unravel the truth in both dramas have found a number of difficulties from people who doesn't want the real truth exposed.
I have read before that SK reporters esp entertainment ones love to write trashy news. But that can't be compared to political/current affairs reporters who always fear constant threat.
Like what I read here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-south-korea-journalists-fear-a-government-clampdown-on-the-press/2014/12/09/ff13603e-7a2f-11e4-8241-8cc0a3670239_story.html
I also read in some other article, but forget about it.
Anyway, this kind of dramas hopefully will offer some critical perspective and social commentary on journalism and society in Korea in general. So far I enjoy Healer and Pinocchio even though they have quite different story and vibe. :D
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Odessa Jones
December 26, 2014 at 8:00 AM
Thanks for posting that WP link. With big newspapers and networks cutting way back on foreign correspondents, it's harder to find articles like that. And that's just everyday economic pressures hurting good journalism--it's so much worse for journalists to work under the threat of libel suits. I hope papers in SK push back.
If you're watching P&P, it's convoluted as heck, but something it does well is show injustice as a systemic thing that doesn't get solved by making one or two people scapegoats. Now that the holidays are finishing up, I really have to catch up in Healer. Curious to see their idealism about the news.
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Rovi
December 26, 2014 at 8:00 AM
That's what the people got for voting Park Geun-hye. (except for the Seoul area, who majority voted for Moon Jae-in)
As if she didn't threaten a clampdown on Kakao Talk messages; it's entirely her fault her government's a mediocrity following the MV Sewol tragedy, and now she can't take some criticism?
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kanz
December 26, 2014 at 8:13 AM
@Rovi Ah really she wants to take down KakaoTalk?? Wow, she's much more paranoia than I thought.
@Odessa Jones try watching Healer. It's not perfect, but the storyline is amazing so far!! Writing, directing, acting has been fabulous.
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 8:25 AM
it's at times like this that you remember that South Korea is actually only about 25 years removed from its own days of being largely under a military dictatorship. I feel bad for the people affected by this, really.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM
@ pogo. I know. Every time I see a Korean movie about that period I am shocked to remember recent it was.
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19 halfmoon
December 26, 2014 at 7:53 AM
Hope you all had a great Christmas!
Misaeng -- missing this show...
Mr Back and Modern Farmer -- I need to catch up
Healer -- seeing all these raves, I'm probably going to watch you.
You from another star -- can you believe that I haven't seen it? I guess I should!
Ronja -- I got busy and didn't watch it for a while. I should catch up again.
1N2D -- the last show with the two chefs was enjoyable.
Return of Superman -- going to miss Haru and Tablo. Can't wait to see Uhm Taewoong!
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korfan
December 26, 2014 at 7:59 AM
sophie -
Don't worry about not having watched You From Another Star yet.
You should see my list of dramas I haven't watched yet.
So many good dramas, not enough time!!
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4D
December 26, 2014 at 5:41 PM
I also hadn't watched You From Another Star....when all the end of the year reviews started coming in I realized I should get a jump on it. I'm only on episode 7 though. I'm enjoying it but it's hard to ignore the hype and just go in with no expectations. Also I'm watching too many currently airing shows that are taking priority.
I'm on a Park Hae Jin kick though....but his character is a bit, um, 2D right now. Sigh.
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20 Rovi
December 26, 2014 at 7:55 AM
Hi beanies~!
Who else was bored watching KBS earlier? I can't believe I wasted almost 4 hours of my life watching a mediocre program...
Coming up: my bets on who'll win the major acting awards.
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21 oftheshore
December 26, 2014 at 8:01 AM
Happy holidays to everyone! Have you had a good celebration - or, if you don't celebrate, some well-deserved time off with family and/or friends?
What's a good drama to marathon when you're alone on Christmas/holidays? Essentially, I'm just looking for something to cheer me up that's not YFAS (already rewatched) or Coffee Prince (close to rewatching, but rewatched way too many times).
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redfox
December 26, 2014 at 12:20 PM
something really silly and almost bad. cause who cares, no one can walk in on you.
like the flower....no....what was that again. lee min ho and stuff
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oftheshore
December 26, 2014 at 4:25 PM
OMG, Boys Over Flowers?:) See, I tried to rewatch it once and got a major case of second-hand embarrassment and had to stop (not joking)! Maybe I just got old...
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 3:19 PM
Hmm. Offhand I'd try a couple from this year:
* Fated To Love You, and
* King of High School (aka High School King of Savvy or King of High School Life Conduct).
Fun... and touching. Possibly others here will say FTLY too serious, so if you are just seeking fun, you might want to try King first.
Trying to winnow it down to the fun ones, other years:
* My Girlfriend is a Gumiho
* Reply 1997
It's always so hard to find the "fun" ones. One of the things I love about Kdramas is how they miraculous balance light comedy with serious drama. I've got others I really like, but less sure... even with comic elements, might be too much drama for what you're wanting.
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oftheshore
December 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM
Thank you! I dropped MGIAG too quickly, not sure why - I think it had something to do with work, and then I just never got back to it. FTLY is an option, too!
Was thinking or Really, Really Like You - I recall it was not too dramatic, if a bit stupid...
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 4:51 PM
That's funny, I dropped MGIAG too, or rather only watched the first few minutes and thought this is not for me. But I am sooo glad I went back to it. A while ago at DB, I read someone say the same thing about MGIAG, in a discussion about dropping and re-starting Kdramas.
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 3:58 PM
@ oftheshore
Thinking about shows that are cheerful... it's hard. All the melo elements are mixed into practically every show I've seen. Cannot avoid some angst and tears but if you don't mind going through some of that stuff...
There's the re-united ex-spouses: Sly and Single, Emergency Couple which had to me more fun than tears.
Middling Oldies : My Princess, Lie To Me - kind of nice romance
With music : You're Beautiful and Heartstrings - just mindless entertainment but less romantic
Then Cyrano Dating Agency, A Gentleman's Dignity, Marriage Not Dating are more on the lighthearted vein.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM
Yes, I forgot. Sly and Single & Emergency Couple were fun.
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oftheshore
December 26, 2014 at 4:32 PM
Thanks for the ideas!
Sly and Single Again is definitely an option, adding to the list.
Since you've mentioned Cyrano Dating Agency, I think rewatching the film could also be a good idea. I remember liking it a lot and even laughing at the jokes, and I've forgotten enough of the plot to warrant a rewatch.
You're right about the tears being a mandatory element - Christmas makes me think of My Girl, and that one sure had a lot of melo in the second half!
Another idea: re-read JB's recaps of Witch Amusement. Seriously, if you've never read those, you should, even if you've never seen the drama (and I can tell you, the only reason to watch it is the odd bromance).
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 5:13 PM
Thanks for the tips about JB's recaps.
A few fun movies in case you haven't seen them:
* All About My Wife
* Castaway on the Moon (not a comedy per se, but has comic elements, and I just plain love it)
* Fasten Your Seatbelt
* Going by the Book
* Hello Ghost
* Penny Pinchers (also not strictly a comedy.)
* The Plan Man
* The Weird Missing Case Of Mr. J
* Whatcha Wearin'? (aka My P.S. Partner.) It's a racy movie. Would be rated R in the USA.
There are others in my comedy list, but I think these are more the laugh-out-loud variety.
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4D
December 26, 2014 at 5:45 PM
Castaway on the Moon!!! I saw it here (NYC) at the Asian Film Festival and my friend and I enjoyed it so much. I felt so bad for the director because he was so surprised that the audience was giving him such good feedback because he says it was a huge failure in Korea and got bad reviews....um, but I thought it was quirky and good.
oftheshore
December 26, 2014 at 6:10 PM
Ooooh, thanks! I've seen My P.S. Partner and Penny Pinchers, but will check out the rest! Despite the title, I highly recommend How To Use Guys With Secret Tips. It had quite a few funny jokes and a quirky feel with some Wes Anderson/Pushing Daisies style and magical realism mixed in.
revlow
December 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM
@ oftheshore -- I almost put How To Use Guys With Secret Tips in there! I liked it a lot.
revlow
December 26, 2014 at 6:25 PM
I have a lot to go through, I'm up to 105 movies. I do keep a list, but might be a good idea to start keeping separate lists of categories. However, that might be impossible with Korean movies -- so wonderfully hard to pin down.
revlow
December 26, 2014 at 6:27 PM
Oh, and I forgot hysterically funny action movies like The Good, the Bad, the Weird. Keeps you on the edge of your seat while laughing.
revlow
December 26, 2014 at 5:57 PM
Such a good movie. It is on my "must-sees". Hard to imagine why it would get bad reviews. How sad for the director, but how wonderful he received the warm vibes in NYC.
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4D
December 26, 2014 at 5:43 PM
Honestly I'm watching "Let's Eat" right now and it's making me very happy. There is lots of yummy eating and it's pretty light-hearted. I admit I haven't finished the show but I can't imagine it takes a sudden dramatic twist in tone later. It's just so enjoyable.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:41 AM
I think I'll force myself to watch the ending of this. I really liked it until my ship sailed. I so loved Lawyer Kim.
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4D
December 27, 2014 at 12:48 PM
I love Lawyer Kim too but I think it was too obvious for me that they wouldn't get together so I didn't get too attached to them as a pairing. On the other hand....season 2?!?! It's Lawyer Kim time!
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owl
December 26, 2014 at 9:38 PM
I love marathoning Love Rain (but i ff through 1-4 and pick up when JGS is on the train in Japan in the present day).
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harmonyfb
December 27, 2014 at 8:35 AM
Marriage, not Dating. It's funny, funny, funny - and ends on a high note. :)
Panda and Hedgehog and Let's Eat are good feel-good dramas that are entirely devoid of suspense, but you'll like them anyway. :)
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oftheshore
December 27, 2014 at 12:25 PM
I sooooo want to watch Let's Eat, but afraid it will just make me permanently hungry.:)
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harmonyfb
December 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM
Oh, man, that show - it made me hungry for things that I know for a fact I would hate (it made mackerel look delicious. Make sure you have yummy foodstuffs near when you watch it.)
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22 pogo
December 26, 2014 at 8:08 AM
Hi everyone! Merry Christmas to those who celebrate - it's been a while since I've been in OT, I missed it!
As for kdramas:
Misaeng:
Best. kdrama. OF ALL TIME.
I have no other words, other than if someone wants to leave a message for Lee Sung-min, you can leave it as a reply to comment #20 in the Misaeng episode 20 recap - there are plans to have them translated and posted to his fan cafe. And if you want to send Lee Sung-min a fan letter, you can send it here:
Actor Lee Sung-min
Hodoo and You Entertainment
Marriott’s Park Centre, Building A #801
28-3 Yeouido-dong , Yeongdeungpo-gu
150-881, Seoul, Korea
(many thanks to @tt for posting that info in the final Misaeng recap - I am now about to send a fan letter for the first time in my adult life! Such is the power of a really excellent drama!)
Other than Misaeng, here's the drama rundown for the last few weeks
Pinocchio - remains awesome, though this week was not as heavy on my tear ducts as last week. Adorable Christmas episodes, even if I missed hyung a bit the four reporter buddies and Dal-po collapsing drunk into Grandpa's arms was beyond adorable. And finally, we get closer to what the real evil behind the scenes is - first time in this drama I'm not fast-forwarding through Kim Hae-sook's scenes! (and where is our Cha-byun cameo?! Isn't he hyung's lawyer?!)
What's With This Family - I really, REALLY love Dad, and it breaks my heart that he's trying to be a noble idiot and keep his terminal illness from his family. There's a lot to be said for a drama led by a skilled senior actor, and I love that weekend dramas give them this chance that prime time weekday ones usually don't).
I also love Kim Hyun-joo to pieces, and the love line between eldest noona and her Director is the funniest and cutest thing ever. They're so much fun together!
Other than that, there were movies - I watched Miss Granny, Mourning Grave, Friend and Friend 2 - all four were excellent (Kim Woo-bin's saturi may sit a bit funny, but he does menacing and sexy -but-boyish like no one else) I guess the one DB is most likely to be interested in is Mourning Grave. Thoughts on that to follow (it was really scary!)
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 8:32 AM
What's With My Family? Sooooooo good! I don't want Dad to die but I feel he will. It's funny but I think his niece is going to be really broken up about the news when she finds out. He's almost like the only Dad she's ever had...and I think the screenwriter might show that there is so much more to her than selfish gossip. Anyway, I'd like screenwriter to do that.
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 8:52 AM
yeah, cousin Young-seol has already shown that she has a heart of gold underneath all the gossip, and is especially fond of eldest noona,
I mean, remember her basically going full Sister Bear on Kang-shim's ex for daring to come back into her life? And then conspiring with our Director to help him out with Kang-shim? She really just wants her to be happy, even if they fight. (and likewise with Kang-shim being ready to tear off Son-in-law Seo's head for daring to suggest that Young-seol's baby might not be his)
It's such a perfect family drama - no makjang, sure there's plenty of drama but it has a nice warm feel.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 3:22 PM
Agree!
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pogo
December 26, 2014 at 8:55 AM
P.S. in further Kim Woo-bin news, The Professionals just opened in Korea three days ago, and it looks on track to be a hit (750,000 admissions + and counting, with the weekend ahead).
Do well, Woobie My Wuv!
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meh
December 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM
In regards to What's With This Family: I really wish the father will undergo treatment for his cancer. In the drama, the father is scared that the treatment will not help. I know it's just a drama. But, speaking in real life, my mother was recently diagnosed with cervical cancer in stage 3B. After she finished her radiation and chemotherapy, her OBGYN told her that these treatments have tremendously help her. So, with the last episode and when the father refused to take the treatment, I really wanted to let him know that although those treatments hurt alot, they do help the cancer. I hope he goes through the treatments and survive in the end to see the impact and positive changes he have done to his children and see both his daughter and youngest son get marry to their respective love ones.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:44 AM
Am so glad your mom is doing well!
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pogo
December 27, 2014 at 11:00 AM
I'm glad your mother is doing well now! I would like the drama dad to please get treatment too, but drama characters are infamous for noble idiocy (which this totally is, thank goodness real life parents have more sense!)
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23 MickeY
December 26, 2014 at 8:41 AM
Happy Holidays Everyone :)
Three Meals a Day - Fishing Village preview is here :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj7l6C_7ARM
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 12:28 AM
Looks like it'll be fun. Thanks, MickeY!
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24 opaque
December 26, 2014 at 8:51 AM
Happy holidays everyone!! (◠‿◠✿)
I have no clue what my resolutions will be for next year...but I think using more emoticons will be one of them (^▽^) as long as I don't start annoying people...
And I guess just being positive and less reliant on other people emotionally.
No dramas are catching my attention right now. Watching In Time With You because of all the beanies praising it on the remake article. So far, I don't like it too much but I think my tolerance has just worn down (am I getting booted out of kdramaland ●︿●). Otherwise RM and the 19+ couple on WGM are my go-to ^^
What are everyone's else resolutions for 2015? Fighting!! ＼(^-^)／
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM
I've decided to learn the letters of the hangul by Jan 22, the start of the next ESL class. I'm learning words but there really is a time where you have to say "I HAVE TO LEARN THIS ALPHABET!"
Other than that: lose weight, avoid wheat, avoid processed foods, drink tons of water.
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25 dfwkimchi
December 26, 2014 at 9:56 AM
Happy Friday all,
What? today is Friday - but NO MISAENG ?!?! - wow - will miss that show.
This weekend will also say good bye to our fav villages of Modern Farmers - oh so sad!
Picked up Healer - all 6 episodes in the last 2 days - crossing fingers that the plots will execute well thru the end as there is A LOT of INTRIGUE going on.
I think by this weekend, all the kids in 'What's up with this Family' will find out about their dad!
Looking forward to 'The family is coming' - weekend drama.
Will have to marathon some old series over the New Year week. On my list is Coffee Prince and My name is Kim Sam Soon and Return of Iljamae. Don't know which one to check out first **scratch head**
Have a safe New Year all beanies and here's hoping for a very good crop of dramas to watch (and handsome faces to spaz about) in the coming year!!
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26 wonhwa
December 26, 2014 at 9:57 AM
I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I just finished Liar Game and it was a blast. Who knew that what I really wanted for Christmas was a smart, twisty thriller full of sexy antiheroes? I don't post frequently, but thanks DB for creating and maintaining such a great community for thoughtful, fun commentary on all things k-drama!
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amberscube
December 26, 2014 at 11:45 AM
Liar Game was indeed a blast to marathon. I find Lee Sang Yoon charming enough in Angel Eyes but in Liar Game, ommoooo *fans self... he's HOT!!!! Who would have thought that the not even but almost a kiss scene had me squeeing like crazy! And that scene where he smiled when he was having a yogurt drink... Oh my, i just died.
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wonhwa
December 26, 2014 at 2:04 PM
Yes, he was quite lovely to watch. And the cast as a whole had great chemistry which just added to the fun.
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4D
December 26, 2014 at 5:54 PM
I started Liar Game with very little expectations...more of a "Oh why not try it?" but I was so glad I did. Although I was one of the few who wasn't thrilled with the end. I'll be OK with it if there really is a season two but if there isn't then....:/ But those antiheroes, as you say, were exactly what I didn't know I was missing.
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wonhwa
December 26, 2014 at 8:01 PM
Overall, I thought the ending worked, although I agree that there were numerous plot strands that weren't resolved. I personally would have loved for the show to delve deeper into Skinner and behaviorism, since there seemed like so much thematic and dramatic potential there. Oh well, perhaps if season two comes along . . .
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27 atz
December 26, 2014 at 10:12 AM
Anyone watching N no Tameni(J drama)? According to what I read, many Japanese viewers find the story excellent, and some believe that the drama surpassed the original novel.
I watched the first eps and it is heart breaking,,,
Nobunaga concerto and Gomen ne Seishun finished in Japan. Nobunaga 's ending received some negative opinion( original Manga is still going so the script writer created his own ending in this drama).
Gomen ne got the worst viewership but many viewers find the drama fun and interesting. Viewerships sometimes do not reflect content of dramas.
Talking about not so good viewership but great production, I heard that the Three Musketeers really got sucked,,, no 2 and 3. Why, why why????
Have a wonderful New Year.
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spazmo
December 26, 2014 at 10:21 AM
haven't watched the finale of Nobunaga Concerto, which i have been enjoying (it's still raw on myasian)...
waiting, waiting for subs for Kyo wa Kaisha Yasumimasu eps 8-10...
finished Suteki na Sen TAXI - so funny to see takenouchi yutaka's deadpan humor!
hmmm, guess i'll put a bookmark on N no Tameni, haven't watched a jmelo in awhile...
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 12:29 PM
uhm... I might watch N. Thanks.
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meh
December 26, 2014 at 1:54 PM
That drama sounds awesome. I love mystery crime dramas/movies. I am a sucker for those. Will watch this one. Thanks.
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thursdaynexxt
December 27, 2014 at 9:08 PM
Wonder if Nobunaga's Concerto is still worth watching? J-dramas can be pretty good at endings that leave you up in the air, or just plain WTF - but I'm used to it!
I enjoyed the first half, but am catching up on a bunch of stuff (including Yoona's Street and Modern Farmer).
Also meaning to finish Suteki na Sen TAXI when I get round to it!
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28 museofmanymasks
December 26, 2014 at 10:36 AM
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Happy OT everyone. Man, with everyone from out of state popping in and out, plus everyone in my house, including me, being knocked upside the head with varying degrees of a severe cold, haven't had much time for dramas.
Didn't have internet for a couple days while visiting, so I watched Bamboo Blade which was loaned to me on dvd. Animes are difficult for me to get into. I've only seen C: Control, this one, and Nodame Cantabile. Had I had other options, I wouldn't have finished it; it felt kind of pervy at moments. I enjoyed learning about the fighting form though. If I had time I'd be tempted to take up kendo. Overall, not as sticky as NC. Less manic hilarity I guess?
Waahhh I'm behind Valid Love *hyperventilates*
Managed to start Punch. Saw the first two episodes. I think I'm gonna like it here. First, I was almost in tears at the children on the bus FROM THE STILLS. It was hard to watch but I'm really glad they didn't go the easy, expected route and kill her as his impetus for change. And apparently cancer is not one either. I love me a good antihero. Mom's knocking it out of the park too. And so is his boss. The bromance is nice, in a twisted way; too bad this dynamic duo will split ways. Sad that it seems like Ohn Joo Wan won't be smiling much in this show, his smile is adorable in a way you feel to your toes. Not sure how I feel about the mustache yet.
Er that's it. Might be back if I catch up on VL but for now hope everyone's enjoying their break.
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Tara
December 26, 2014 at 8:41 PM
Hi museofmanymasks!
I forgot about Punch, after seeing the first ep...thank you for reminding me...another show I got to catch up on :) But I definitely agree with you that it was good that they didn't go the typical route and kill the child to provoke change in the parent...that really would have been too easy. Jung-hwan really is an anti-hero to the max...and even having a terminal disease seems like a bit easy way out for him to change into a decent human being.
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29 spazmo
December 26, 2014 at 10:42 AM
just wondering, so who went to see The Interview?
; )
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM
we saw it on Christmas night on google play. I'm a real cynic, though. I don't think North Korea had anything to do with the hacking. For all we know the US government is trying to make sure we keep our military in Japan and in South Korea. I'm just really suspicious of anything said or reported or believed in the US media. Plus we already know that Son of Fearless Leader is as bad as his father...so why is an entire movie dedicated to furthering our mockery, fear, and hatred of the guy?
Interview was fun..and anyone who likes fart-poo-raunchy jokes etc will like it. I saw it because older son was visiting us for Christmas and wanted to see it. Plus James Franco is one of the few American actors I have major crush on.
That said, I still think it's not funny to do a film about murdering a foreign leader, especially when we Americans do have a history of killing foreign leaders. Would Americans like it if some other country made a film about murdering our leader?
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Tara
December 26, 2014 at 8:31 PM
Hey Carole!
I definitely agree with you on the hacking, because it now just seems like one big ol' marketing gimmick. I suppose that makes a cynic but I'm not one of those conspiracy theorists in the least...it doesn't seem like they are even feasibly capable of pulling off something of this magnitude -- even if this movie was something that would horrify their govt. I agree with you about there even being a film about murdering a foreign leader...freedom of speech be damned, I don't think it's particularly good hindsight to poke a sleeping beast and unleash havoc.
I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard from friends who did...and they all thought it was nothing to write home about. Some have even said it was not worth the hype. I'll probably still catch it though.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:51 AM
It definitely looks as if the sony folks will benefit from the hacking, even if some of their relationships are messed up because of the leaked emails.
It really was silly fun but only if you're in the mood for it. Yeah, i doubt the North Koreans could pull off all this stuff. China maybe? Anonymous, maybe? but who knows?
I just hate the following scenario:
North Korea: We didn't do it.
USA: North Korea did it.
US population and everyone in the whole world: North Korea did it because the US CIA said they did it.
Stuff like that just sticks in my craw for some reason.
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Tara
December 27, 2014 at 12:17 PM
Carole...yeah, I definitely agree with you about your scenario because it seems that the US is blaming NK just out of convenience and not digging further to find the real culprit -- if there really was one, that is.
You would think that if NK really did it, they'd be blasting the news worldwide, boasting that they were able to hack one of the biggest entertainment companies in the world. And I also don't like how people here in the US are easily believing that it's true, just simply because the govt says it is.
I'll believe it when NK actually takes credit for it. For them to deny it all and having subsequent internet outages on top of that -- it smells fishy. The only people benefiting from all this really is the company, with all this free publicity and buzz for this movie.
My sense of humor is broad, so I think I'll find this funny...I suppose I'll know it once I see it.
ajewell
December 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM
I find it really hard to believe that this was all some sort of lame publicity stunt. For one, Sony lost big when the theaters pulled out, so hype or no, the loss in revenue doesn't make the "leak" worthwhile at all. Especially since it's so easy to watch online for free, and considering it's a dumb comedy, many people won't bother to buy it when it officially comes out anyway.
And two, why in the world would the goverment lie just to cover for Sony? They're not going to condone some lame-ass marketing ploy just to stick the middle finger at North Korea. And even if the government hadn't said it was them, people still would've assumed so, considering the hacking took place shortly after North Korea threatened to take action. Their internet outage is more likely due to some rogue hackers who are paying them back for what they did - not because the government wants to shut them up, or stop them from denying any involvement. Their internet isn't going to be down forever.
ajewell
December 26, 2014 at 2:08 PM
I saw it and enjoyed it. It was pretty much what you'd expect from a movie with such a ridiculous plot.
I wonder what South Koreans thought of it, like how it was portrayed in the media, how they reacted to the controversy, etc.
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30 Myka
December 26, 2014 at 10:43 AM
The Healer has gotten me hooked. I hope it stays awesome to the end. :'D
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31 VirG
December 26, 2014 at 1:06 PM
I find the ongoing Korean Air "nut case" more compelling than any of the current/recent kdramas, Misaeng included. I am still waiting for a kdrama that can match YFAS.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM
Ooo! I only kept up on the Nut Queen story the first couple weeks. Will have to find the latest!
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VirG
December 26, 2014 at 8:49 PM
Here is the lastest "episode".
South Korean prosecutors are seeking an arrest warrant for the former Korean Air executive Heather Cho who sparked outrage by kicking a flight attendant off a plane for serving macadamia nuts the wrong way.
The warrant would cover charges of violating aviation safety rules, including a change in a flight plan, assault on a plane, coercion and interference in the execution of duty, the Seoul Western District Prosecutors' office said Wednesday.
A decision will be taken on issuing of the warrant early next week after a review procedure, the prosecutors' office said.
Only in Korea? I just love kdramas - fiction or real life.
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 10:32 PM
LOL!
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM
LOL! Nut-queen! Love it. Can't stop laughing.
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32 meh
December 26, 2014 at 1:51 PM
Just finished watching Trick Season 1-3. Haven't watch the movies and specials yet. Love, love, majorly love Trick. (Background drop: Trick is a scooby doo-style crime solving drama that involves a smart magician and a physicist professor. Both are super hilariously with each other and solve crimes that involve with supernatural power. They find the tricks behind those supernatural power. Very funny and entertaining. Awesome story-line and acting too. Please do check it out. It is old but it is well worth it.) Ueda and Yamada has awesome chemistry and the ending of Season 3 was majorly cute. I wish lots of Kdrama will have that explosive chemistry that works well with the character development as well as the story line.
Just watched the first episode of Punch. I like it but I don't understand the direction of it. So, I'll wait for the all the episodes to get sub and maybe marathon it if episode 2 gets better.
I really need to finish Dexter before my Netflix expires. I dont plan to renew Netflix as I find their selections limited and unsatisfying.
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Lc
December 26, 2014 at 7:22 PM
Trick....I watched their latest movie recently and it brought back fond memories of when it used to show on my local screen, so it's added to my evergrowing list of shows to catch.
What I like about it is that while the physicist is held in higher esteem because of his qualifications, it's the female magician who solves the puzzle using her brains and street smarts.
Seriously, this and Boss (both seasons) are convincing me to look at jdoramas only for when I want to see female characters that are smart, strong and not just appendages to the male leads in the shows.
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meh
December 26, 2014 at 9:41 PM
Yes. Strong female characters that are smart and aren't candy-like is a delightful treat. Nakama Yukie does a wonderful job as Yamada. Throughout the seasons of Trick, Yamada has always remained my favorite character. Soo cool and awesome. :D
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33 Tara
December 26, 2014 at 1:57 PM
Hey everyone...happy OT!
Season's Greetings and Merry Christmas! :) Been baking up a storm, just in the mood to make pies, cookies and cakes -- this coming from someone who doesn't have a sweet tooth! This is the only time of year I eat them. My faves have been scratch-made Oreos and scratch-made dark chocolate brownies with minty frosting, so mm mm good :)
Pinocchio: I love all the scenes with Dal-po & family, and thank goodness this week was not a repeat of last week's heartbreaking angst. Grandpa and Dal-peng are my two fave characters here, and it was great to see that drunk Dal-po's ramblings made it back to the people that needed to hear it the most! I have the scene where Dal-po hands over the family's fave snacks and the aegyo finger guns on repeat...hoping I'll be able to make that into a gif! ;) I always had the inkling that there was far more to it than just Cha-ok and her reporting, and to see glimpses of Beom-jo's mom emerging as Big Bad was a bit predictable to me. As far as kdrama tropes go, every little thing is connected in some way...so yeah, that's where it's going til the finale.
Healer: Haven't seen this week's eps yet but read the recaps already. I love wimpy awkward Jung-hoo and I like how spunky Young-shin is, even if, secretly, Jung-hoo is the one kicking ass and saving the day. Jung-hoo slowly falling for Young-shin without knowing it is one dynamic I love seeing here, especially when Young-shin confessed to having an one-sided crush on the Healer...haha, his mind is blown ;) I wholeheartedly second JB in feeling giddy watching this!! :)
When I think of weekend dramas, crazyass mother-in-laws come to mind. I've fallen off the wagon in watching at least one, after being worn out from Jang Bori is Coming. Just thought I'd tune in to Rosy Lovers and The Legendary Witch and dayummm. Crazyass father-in-laws are more like it now! WTF. Typical makjang, typical dysfunctionality. Not my cup of tea. I will, however, get my act together and re-watch What's With My Family from the beginning...it's been so long that I forgot a lot of it, and to read the snippets about Dad has got me itching to catch it again.
I've been catching Pride & Prejudice on and off, but at one point I actually thought Kang-soo could be Byul? (Yeah, most likely off point for sure). I think I need to catch this from the beginning as well, because the mish-mash in my head ain't making no sense!
Hope yall have a great weekend, and Happy New Year! Hurrah to the '15! :)
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 3:39 PM
Dang, Tara. Those treats sure sound good. (drooling)
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Tara
December 26, 2014 at 7:45 PM
Hey revlow!
They were very good :) I first made both last year for a friend's Christmas party, and I had a lot of friends clamoring me to make them some nearly all year. I'll just say I will likely gain a few from all these goodies...haha :P
And you know those that say once you make something homemade, you'll never eat store bought again? Those two are prime examples of that, most definitely. And to think of the thin mints and oreos I used to devour...they really just don't compare.
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 3:42 PM
@ Tara
I haven't had breakfast yet and I also do not have a sweet tooth but reading what you baked is making my mouth water and making me more hungry!!
Pinocchio: I'm sad that we could not just have a good Chaebol mum, but now it's understandable why the 1st 2 episodes dragged on the horror done to the Ki father and family. Why it was so unrelenting and why the right kind of investigation was not carried out. It does not excuse the people in charge of investigating and reporting, but only makes it a bit more comprehensible.
Pride and Prejudice is convoluted too and I have to go back to watch some episodes because I skipped, but I got the gist of it. In the end Kang Soo and Byul are not the same person but victims tied to the same crime. If any show is more full of connections than Pinocchio it's P & P :)
Happy New Year to you too!
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Tara
December 26, 2014 at 8:09 PM
Hey growingbeautifully!
I didn't realize you left me a comment on the Pinocchio thread, my bad :/ I kinda forgot about my post until now so I apologize for not replying!
Hehe, sorry for making you hungry by talking about the baked goods :) I'm not a professional baker by no means and cook a lot more than bake, but this time of year gets me in the baking mood. A lot of times, I'm browsing through recipes and I bake whatever sounds good.
I agree wholeheartedly with you about Pinocchio. The Beom-jo mom angle does make sense, because I was scratching my head for a bit and thought that it didn't feel like that Cha-ok's relenting reporting was the only bit that led to the tragedy for the Ki family. I, too, am sad that his mom is added to the ever growing list of Rich People Behaving Badly list, because she just seemed to be an overly loving mom to her momma's boy and seemed harmless. And you're absolutely right...now that her involvement 13 years ago is known, it make sense why things turned out the way it did and how skewed the investigation turned.
As for Pride & Prejudice, I saw the first ep and then skipped around, catching when I can. Definitely did not see them in succession, hence my confusion about Kang-soo...and I will start marathoning from ep1 this weekend.
And I know there have been people on the Pinocchio thread that complained about the excessive coincidences in the plot...but I don't mind that as much, as long as the story doesn't lose focus and gets it down pat. (I suppose my comments here made me sound a bit bummed.) I didn't really think of Pride & Prejudice for having lots of connections until I saw an ep from last week...so you're absolutely right, they are both similar in that respect :)
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growingbeautifully
December 26, 2014 at 10:33 PM
That's OK, I've forgotten about it too!!! :) Gotta go see what I wrote. *embarrassed grin*
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:54 AM
Oh you definitey should watch What's With This Family! It is soo chill and cool compared with the other weekend dramas (which I admittedly have not been watching.) Although..there are two crazy mother-in-laws in this one as well. Nothing's perfect, i guess...except Misaeng. But WWTF is pretty near perfect, i think.
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34 sulthanah
December 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM
Open thread:
Well, I wrote something on soompi to reply one comment there.
Please, read if you like MISAENG.
In other articles I think I explained my reason to you. Have you read it? or you skipped. Actually, I am waiting for your reply :-)
By the way, who is Siwon who starred in Misaeng? If you mean it is Choi Siwon, well, he did star in Poseidon, My Girl, then a drama from Taiwan along with Lee Donghae and he is from Super Junior not ZE:A. lol
No Siwon as the star of Misaeng. lol.You wrote his name wrongly here. May I correct it? IM SIWAN or his stage name is SIWAN not siwOn. or his birth name is Im Wongjae. Junyoungie slightly called him Wongjae in behind the scene of breath last stage in Inkigayo. Have you watched it? I dont think so.
I am stick on my opinion and always will be. It means that I have always stuck on my opinion that the right title is ZE:A's Siwan. He is nobody without ZE:A. and before you complain again, please watch Beatles Code when ZE:A and Siwan were there. He appeared but not too long because he had to shoot STAND BY for MBC in 2012. But, what he said will answer your complain.
After you watch beatles code, and you still complain, I give up. I will stop here. No need to continue.
Do you think that Siwan will reach what he reach today without Kwang Hee? Come on girl, he was noticed after Kwang Hee brought him in Strong Heart. Have you watched that show? I dont think so. If you watch the show, you will also understand what I mean?
Are you a ZE:A's? I dont think so. If yes, you will understand why the title has to put ZE:A. One of the reasons why they work hard is to spread ZE:A's name so that ZE:A will be a group which represent the country.
In addition, I give up on Soompi. Last night I read the title Park Hyung Shik bla bla bla without ZE:A. I think you have to watch Think 4 show from TvN. There Hyungshikkie said that ZE:A is his name.
Later if there is an article about ZE:A's members, and Soompi writer dont put ZE:A as the title, I will only read it and dont put any comments because I have given up on soompi.
Nice to meet you...let you know if you are SIwan's fan, you are also called ZE:A's. lol.
So, I made many mistakes when I wrote that you are not ZE:A's.
Read this one:
At a fanmeeting, a fan asks Junyoung:
“oppa, what are the names for members’ individual fandom??”
Then this is what Junyoung writes:
Kevin: ZE:A’s
Kwanghee: ZE:A’s
Siwan: ZE:A’s
Junyoung: ZE:A’s
Taeheon: ZE:A’s
Heecheol: ZE:A’s
Minwoo: ZE:A’s
Hyungsik: ZE:A’s
Dongjun: ZE:A’s
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Uri Leader will always be polite. You know why? He wrote according to the age. Kevin is the oldest, of course he is on the top. Followed by Kwang Hee, Siwan, uri LEADER (he is not the oldest but he has been the LEADER of ZE:A), Taeheon, Heecheol, MinWoo, Hyungshik, Dongjun. Should I write their...
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sulthanah
December 26, 2014 at 4:03 PM
I forgot to conclude. In conclusion, if you are Siwan's fans, you will be called ZE:A's. Welcome to our FANDOM! Hug from me.
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pigsnout
December 27, 2014 at 12:57 AM
Ummmm I wish you and your fandom well, but on dramabeans NO idol is ever identified the way you want us to call Siwan. Maybe in the beginning of a recap or in casting news db will mention that they are idols but it is ridiculous to expect this site's writers and commenters to do that. If an idol is doing a drama, they are identified by their own name and that is it. Because they are playing a different character and not "themselves" as they would do on variety or music performances.
And please don't think this is bias. Members of all idol groups are identified this way, not just yours - SNSD, B2ST, MBLAQ, JYJ, A Pink etc all have members who have acted in dramas reviewed here. They were all identified by their own name, just as Siwan is. If you cannot accept that, then dramabeans is not the place for you - commenters here simply do not care what idol group an actor belongs to as long as he is good. Sorry!
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sulthanah
December 27, 2014 at 1:52 AM
It is ok for me. What I mean is we have different opinion and it is good. I can see your point. Thank you.
It is open thread. I just want to write what I want to write because it is a free space to voice out what in our mind. In other pages of dramabeans, I try not to voice out what in our mind if they are not related to drama/actors. But, only here I am brave enough to write what I write above.
HAve you listened to Siwan's song? His voice is good. You can try to listen to his songs. Many of them are underrated. I will not suggest you any kinds of songs. If you ask, let me suggest. If not, I just suggest to listen to his songs without mentioning the titles.
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35 revlow
December 26, 2014 at 4:10 PM
Merry, Merry and Happy, Happy to all!
My week in review (first time I've done this):
Christmas was nothing special. Just me in the mountains, which is nothing new. Family in different states. Frankly, it's been so many years I no longer think about it, just like any other day.
Last week was a bit rough, though. In addition to the same ol' same old stresses (no job, no money), my birthday was on Sat. Dec 20th. I have never had a problem with birthdays, and in fact sort of embraced the milestones. This was different. The first time I been pretty blue about it. Let's just say if I keep saying I'm "middle-aged" that means I'm living to 120.
On top of that...
* It was the last Misaeng that day!!! Need I say more?
* And before that, there were the series finales of The Colbert Report and The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson.
* Plus the last Christmas show on David Letterman. The 28th and final appearance of Darlene Love singing "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)". That ALWAYS gets to me. (For anyone interested, Youtube has them going back to her first appearance in 1986.)
Tomorrow we say goodbye to the Modern Farmers. :-( Thank god I have you guys!
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 4:45 PM
An age-related Kdrama occurrence over the last couple months:
A few times I caught myself thinking about young actors "It's going to be interesting to see what he'll look when he gets to be old." Then, "Uh, duh revlow. You're not going to be around."
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Tara
December 26, 2014 at 8:21 PM
Hey revlow!
I didn't add this to my reply to your comment because I saw your post here :) I'm sorry I didn't get to do this last week, but Happy Belated Bitrthday!! I think once you get past the teens, birthdays just seem like regular days with no fanfare...especially if you're not one of those people who throw themselves birthday parties and let the world know they're turning __. I know mine have felt that way since 18...especially because I don't drink, even milestone 21 was just a regular ol' day. I'm sorry to hear about your circumstances, but I do hope that the new year will bring you some good news and vibes your way! :)
I apologize for not replying on past OTs, again because I'd forget about checking back on it and getting to it way too late. I'm glad you were able to catch up on the new season of 1N2D, and if I remember correctly, you're all caught up...? I haven't been able to catch them in a while, but I did watch the first 1/2 of the first Autumn Cooking Special (being a foodie, that's what caught my eye). I'm sending my winter break catching up on dramas and most definitely, 1N2D :)
It's weird how there's now a changing of the guard to all the new late night shows...I admit I haven't watched them since before Jay Leno announced his retirement the first time around (yeah...been a while).
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 9:29 PM
Thanks Tara!
I have to say the day got better. My neighbor asked me over to help decorate her Xmas tree. It was fun, and that got me out of my funk. (I hadn't decorated a tree since my kids were little.)
Brings up the amazing tale of the tree. A few days earlier she'd asked for help carrying the tree inside. HUGE tree... about 10 ft. But more than that, HEAVY sucker! Freakishly large trunk and heavy branches. Took three of us to to carry it up the steep icy staircase, with many stops along the way. The people at the lot kept asking her "Are you sure you want this tree?". They told her it was a "Three fireman tree.". That was because it literally took 3 firemen to chop it down and haul it out of the forest! (The tree lot is a community fundraiser for the Rotary, so firemen volunteer to help.) Trust me, the three of us ain't no firemen. It's a miracle we pulled it off!
The other friend had to leave, so it was just the two of us left to set up the tree. It was too big to even fit in the extra large tree stand! The two of us put our MacGyver hats on and jury-rigged the whole thing. Too involved to explain, but it was an engineering feat. We kept high-fiving each other "Girl power!". No one can believe we did it. We both were hobbling for days. I felt like I'd been hit by a truck. But it is a beautiful tree.
I'm all caught up with 1N2D. I liked the Autumn Cooking Special, too. Very funny.
I loved the tradition of Darlene Love on the Letterman Show. You may know this already, but for those who don't. She was the powerhouse singer behind some bit hits in the '60s. But she got screwed over by the producer Phil Spector, and many of her hit records came out with her voice, but credited the Crystals. From an article:
Twenty years later, divorced and broke, Love was cleaning a rich woman’s bathroom in Beverly Hills when she heard “Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)” on the radio—another of her songs for Spector. She saw this as a sign that she should resume her career. In 1986, the first break of her second chance came when Letterman, who loved the song, invited her to perform it on his Christmas show. That became an annual tradition.
Gives me chills just thinking about it. There's a great documentary she's in called 20 Feet from Stardom about backup singers. It's on Netflix.
Thanks again. Sending you warm wishes for the New Year!
revlow
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 9:41 PM
Oops, that's "big hits". I encourage people to look at the Youtube videos. This was a mash-up that was done a few years ago.
David Letterman - Darlene Love's 'Christmas' Mash-Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkJRCeCoCjY
LOL. I'm in tears again now watching this. Ha! I gotta laugh at myself. :-D
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revlow
December 26, 2014 at 10:10 PM
OOOPS again. This is a much better version of the mash-up. It's the **official** video:
Supercut of Darlene Love Singing "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" on David Letterman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfurmGiKZ5k
And from this year, her very last performance on the show...
Darlene Love: "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" 2014 - David Letterman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzj3S2p2W44
I think the last couple years have been some of her best performances. Her voice just keeps getting better.
Now, back to kpop. :-D
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lc
December 27, 2014 at 5:48 AM
@revlow, thanks for the video. After watching her 2014 performance, I googled her and was shocked to know that she's 73! She's simply glorious!
revlow
December 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM
You're welcome! Glad you liked it @lc. :-)
CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:56 AM
Happy birthday!!!!! Many many healthy happy ones more!
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 1:11 PM
Thanks Carole!
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thursdaynexxt
December 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM
"Merry, Merry and Happy, Happy" - cute, concise, and covers all bases!
It's a special time of year, but definitely not the easiest! I hope that 2015 begins on a good note, and that you and your family will be able to see the silver lining soon!
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 11:51 PM
Thank you. I hope 2015 is a wonderful one for you and your family as well.
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36 revlow
December 27, 2014 at 12:23 AM
I apologize for the length of my posts. I need more sleep. :/
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37 newgirl
December 27, 2014 at 1:20 AM
I finished Misaeng on Christmas Day. So, so good! This show never disappointed me. It will be hard to move on to anything else; they set the bar that high.
Thank you beanies for all your recommendations. I see I have some Kdrama catching-up to do. Maybe Liar Game? We have been really blessed this year with some quality shows.
I wish everyone a very Happy New Year!
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38 harmonyfb
December 27, 2014 at 8:27 AM
Oh my goodness, I forgot yesterday was Friday! I hope those who celebrated had a good Christmas! We had a Nerdy winter holiday at my house, with many Doctor Who & Hobbit & Mass Effect themed gifts. :)
What I watched:
Misaeng: I was so sad to see this show end. This was another one where I felt like I was hanging out with friends two hours a week, and now they've moved away. ::sigh:: The last episode was so satisfying, though - and my husband said "They clearly blew their entire budget on the last episode". Location shoots, woooooooo.
That was it. Christmas week was a bit busy.
What I want to be watching:
Gap-Dong: I can't find a site that offers a strong feed AND decent subtitles. I may have to buy it so I can finish watching, grr. I tried to watch one episode & never could finish it last night. So frustrating.
What I tried and dropped:
Healer: I already didn't like it when the opening scene was the protagonist talking about how he'd objectify the female form in his video game. Charming (that's super-sarcasm, by the way.)
But I just wasn't impressed by the whole thing. I gave it 15 minutes, and turned it off. Bleah.
K-drama Moment:
My copy of Marriage, not Dating came, so I can lure in the rom-com fans at the library! Now I just have a couple more, and my palette of K-drama pimping will be complete.
Also, apparently, Kim Ji Hoon was 1-1/2 hours from my location in the last couple of weeks. That's almost like standing right next to him, comparatively (Korea is a 14-hr flight from where I live.)
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iamdeb
December 27, 2014 at 10:08 AM
Get prepared to have recommendations for kdramas similar to Marriage, Not Dating! It is especially harder to recommend for people who watch it as their first drama because it can set the bar high!
A friend of mine asked me for a drama like it and I still have not been able to get back to her! I plan to recommend Master's Sun and (the first half) of Fated to Love You lol. I need more ideas though.
I honestly consider myself lucky that my first drama was Boys before Flowers.
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM
Hi Deb,
If you haven't looked through them yet, there are some recommendations above for fun, uplifting Kdramas in thread 21 started by oftheshore through 21.6.
My first Kdrama was Pasta, and I was hooked. I consider myself lucky as well -- I just happened to come across it at Netflix, hadn't even heard of Kdramas. I've found folks here generally consider it so-so.
Here's pretty much my best-of list:
* Fated To Love You, and
* King of High School (aka High School King of Savvy or King of High School Life Conduct).
* Pasta
* Master's Sun
* MISAENG
* My Girlfriend is a Gumiho
* The Greatest Love
* My Love From the Star
* My Spring Day
* Reply 1997
(There are others that are really close.)
Of those, I think I'd suggest Fated To Love You, King of High School, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, and Reply 1997 for firsts... and my sentimental favorite Pasta. I had a first-timer friend call me up -- after 6 straight hours staring at the screen -- saying "Damn you, revlow!" She too was hooked. (And this is a friend who doesn't watch much TV.)
I imagine some folks will include Coffee Prince. That's been a first for many. I liked it, I just didn't like it like it.
Sly and Single is fun. So depends. What genre does you friend leans towards?
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 1:01 PM
Also, I'd consider Modern Farmer -- that's going on my best list when it finishes today.
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 1:04 PM
Oh, might not have been clear. The friend had been staring 6 straight hours at Pasta.
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harmonyfb
December 27, 2014 at 1:13 PM
I haven't tried Pasta yet - is it fun?
revlow
December 27, 2014 at 1:48 PM
I adore it! I think you'll know within a short time if it's going to grab you. It was my first love, instantly made me a Kdrama addict. But like I said, I've found others here think it's meh.
Pasta has a lot of great actors: Gong Hyo-jin and Lee Sun-kyun for starters. I fell in love with them and was off and running to see everything they're in. Has the incomparable Lee Sung-min, who chews up the scenery. No Min-Woo and others introduced me to the hubba-hubba Korean actor realm.
revlow
December 27, 2014 at 1:50 PM
Oh, just re-read your Q. I'm not sure it's heavy on the "fun". Was a fun ride for me, and has comic elements, but wouldn't consider it a straight-up comedy.
harmonyfb
December 27, 2014 at 1:08 PM
I'd probably recommend Secret Garden (it's not as good, but it is pretty cracktastic), Surplus Princess (at least up through ep 10), and Sungkyunkwan Scandal.
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 1:37 PM
LOLLLLLL! "cracktastic"! Thank you harmonyfb -- my first laugh of the day, and I can't stop laughing. You crack-ed me up.
Secret Garden, I liked it too...and it introduced me to actors I like. There are so many good ones, it's hard to narrow down. I liked Rooftop Prince. Miss Korea is cute, and managed to have me sobbing at the end of this silly little drama. Emergency couple is fun, and also had me weeping at the end. I really liked Gu Family Book. Cracked my way through that. (Well, actually I have no control over oldies and f'ing marathon them.)
I've found that I have a hard time with sageuk dramas. I wish I could hang with them, but I get lost. I do like it when it's a backdrop for some other genres, like Gu Family Book which has a fantasy element to it.
I'll have to watch Sungkyunkwan Scandal. It looks good.
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CaroleMcDonnell
December 27, 2014 at 10:59 AM
Did you try soompi for Gap Dong? http://tv.soompi.com/en/home
It's not the best police procedural ...it's got coincidences up the wazoo and it weirdly messes up its suspense. But dang, the subtext is a good one. And my bias is in it as our mad monk.
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harmonyfb
December 27, 2014 at 1:11 PM
No, that's one site I haven't tried - thanks!
That creepy kid in it, whoa. He's so shiver-inducing. I wish there were more procedurals available; I don't know why K-drama shies away from the cop show (I loved 'Crime Squad' & 'Bad Guys', but really I'd loved them ten times as much if they were just about the mysteries.)
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 2:01 PM
Gap Dong is also at myasiantv.com and Dramacool. You can see in HD at myasiantv.com.
I was very disappointed in Gap Dong. I had high hopes. I'd seen the movie Memories of Murder , which is based on the true life Hwaseong serial murder case. Gap Dong advertised it was going to be, but brother was it not!
The creepy kid is Lee Joon. He gave me the shivers. Hard to imagine he's the same actor who is in Mr. Baek.
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harmonyfb
December 27, 2014 at 7:50 PM
Myasiantv was the one I was trying to watch it on last night - the feed was terrible. So I switched over to darksmurf, and the feed was great, but the subs were terrible (to the point where I had to pause so I could figure out what the heck they meant).
But yay, Soompi seems to have a good, strong feed & excellent English subs, so I watched another Ep today. I'm actually surprised that Lee Joon got another job after playing that character. ::laugh:: He is pretty dang creepy in it. I'll have to hunt down "Memories of Murder", too. :)
revlow
December 27, 2014 at 10:01 PM
Yay, soompi!
I know... that guy creeped me out! Have you seen Mr. Baek? He had one scene where he was dancing very legit ballet. I wanted to know if what I'd just seen was real, certainly didn't look like a double or CGI. It was real. There are videos on Youtube. He's got dancing chops.
I was eagerly anticipating Gap-Dong. I thought it turned into a meandering mess.
Memories of Murder is directed Bong Joon-Ho. I've seen 3 movies of his other movies: Snowpiercer, Mother, and The Host. Very different from each other, all good. Quentin Tarantino placed Memories of Murder and The Host in his top 20 movies from 1992-2009.
harmonyfb
December 28, 2014 at 6:24 AM
Have you seen Mr. Baek? He had one scene where he was dancing very legit ballet.
There was a scene in "Gap-Dong" where he did a bit of that, too - I remember thinking "Huh - he's had dance training."
Memories of Murder is directed Bong Joon-Ho. I’ve seen 3 movies of his other movies: Snowpiercer, Mother, and The Host.
Aw, yisss. Those are all really good movies. Now I'm really excited about finding it! :)
revlow
December 28, 2014 at 7:14 PM
Ah, I forgot about that. I guess I was so dang creeped out by him that it just slipped my mind.
I especially love The Host. I've recommended that to several friends saying "Don't be misled by the name, the poster, or what you think of the monster genre -- it's so much more!". They've also really liked it.
4D
December 27, 2014 at 12:52 PM
I think Healer is actually best after the first episode. I also thought he was a bit of a tool when playing that game...but he doesn't seem to objectify around real girls and in fact seems more befuddled by them than anything. That opening scene almost feels like concept they started with and then abandoned.
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harmonyfb
December 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM
I dunno. Maybe I'll give ep 2 a chance, but it just did not grab me.
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4D
December 27, 2014 at 1:18 PM
It's ok, I think there may be a few other options out there ;)
It's almost a relief when a show doesn't grab me now. Although I stopped halfway through the first episode of Pinocchio because it really did no appeal to me....but then let commenters persuade me to go back. Sigh. Not enough hours in the day.
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revlow
December 27, 2014 at 2:21 PM
"It’s almost a relief when a show doesn’t grab me now." I know the feeling!
revlow
December 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM
@harmonyfb - K-drama pimping. Ha! LOL. You're on a roll today. Thanks for the laughs!
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korfan
December 28, 2014 at 12:10 AM
harmonyfb -
Yay! The copy of Marriage Not Dating arrived!
I was actually thinking about that this week because I remembered you mentioned before that it had been ordered.
With the k-collection you're putting together, 2015 is going to see an increase in people coming in to the library!
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harmonyfb
December 28, 2014 at 5:59 AM
Funnily enough, the patron who came in to rave about "Marriage, not Dating" (because I recommended Viki to him) hasn't been seen since. ::laugh:: Guess we don't need to fill his video needs anymore now that he has international tv on his computer.
I've had a bunch of folks asking about new ones, so they'll be thrilled. The number of conversations I overhear about attractive Korean actors amuses me greatly. Wait til they get a look at Jung Jin Woon.
Next, I'm getting "Shut Up! Flower Boy Band" and "Sungkyunkwan Scandal". Then I might switch over and get some Japanese dramas (or Taiwanese, maybe.) Drag our foreign DVD collection away from all-Europe, all the time.
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39 revlow
December 27, 2014 at 4:56 PM
In case anyone might like...
Someone added English, Romanization, and Hangul subs to the official Misaeng OST music videos. Here’s the playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUXFs3YhmN2lRQMBMN43IyCNEY3dVMv2Q
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growingbeautifully
December 27, 2014 at 7:40 PM
Thank you so much revlow! I enjoyed that.
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40 MissA
December 27, 2014 at 6:36 PM
Merry Christmas and have a great year in 2015.
Dear Santa, my only wish is Special Affair Team TEN season 3 will be aired in 2014. Please make it happen. AMIN (-/\-)
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harmonyfb
December 28, 2014 at 6:26 AM
my only wish is Special Affair Team TEN season 3 will be aired
From your lips to Santa's ears, baby. And add "Vampire Prosecutor 3" to that list, too.
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MissA
December 29, 2014 at 3:01 AM
aaaaah I mean 2015 hahahah
Santaaa, you have many things to do next year. Yeah, I haven't watched VP but hear many good things about it, So Santaaaaa, TEN3 & VP3 is a must in 2015 :D :D :D
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