Thing vs. Thing: Foursomes 4eva
by javabeans
girlfriday: So there’s this strange phenomenon in dramaland, whereby everything good comes in groups of four. Why is this? Who determined that four should be the magic number?
javabeans: I think, as with so many things, we can trace the root of the problem to Boys Before Flowers.
girlfriday: It’s a great mystery of the universe why that show spawned as many things as it did.
javabeans: Great mystery, or simple answer? (Lee Min-ho. ‘s all you need. I mean, SERIOUSLY. He can kick off any and all trends, no matter how nonsensical. Pink trousers. Corkscrew curls. Cropped-too-short pants. Bare feet and boat shoes.)
girlfriday: Um… he still has all those things, minus the curls.
javabeans: And yet, still so hot.
girlfriday: There are almost too many groupings of 4 to pick just two. Who do we have?
javabeans: F4, obviously.
girlfriday: And F44, the ajusshi version.
javabeans: Sungkyunkwan’s Joseon F4’s gotta be in the mix.
girlfriday: And then there’s the OTHER Joseon F4, with the Rooftop ducklings.
javabeans: Damn, are we tapped out already? But there are still so many 4’s left! There’s ANJELL 4, and Ramyun 4, and Triple 4.
girlfriday: Triple didn’t have three?
javabeans: Oh. I guess that makes more sense.
girlfriday: No one ever said math was our strong suit.
javabeans: But still! More 4’s! Sol Pharmacy Brothers 4, Ojakkyo 4… I do wonder, though: Why are all the ladygroups trios, then? I Need Romance, The Woman Who Still Wants To Marry, My Sweet Seoul… THE NUMBERS DON’T MATCH UP. If this were the real world, that would be a sad, sad story. Always a lonely seventh wheel.
girlfriday: It would be bad for meetings.
javabeans: Except at date-meetings, there’s always that bitch who hogs two boys, so maybe it works out after all.
girlfriday: They pre-screened the group to get rid of her?
javabeans: If only that could happen in real life.
girlfriday: You can only be my friend if you fill out this waiver for the FBI to do a background check?
javabeans: That, my friend, is what we call a red flag.
girlfriday: I’m pretty sure that’s past flag, and into foot-on-landmine scenario.
javabeans: *Mmm, distracted by Lee Min-ho.*
girlfriday: FOCUS!
javabeans: IT’S HARD. (That’s what she said.)
girlfriday: Get it together! Eye candy in multiples of four!
javabeans: Okay, okay, back to F4. (Hello again, Lee Min-ho.) Maybe we can’t pick just two F4’s to Thing-versus-Thing, so we expand the theoretical cagematch to four groups of four.
girlfriday: Thunderdome: Foursomes.
javabeans: I’m not sure that means what you think it means.
girlfriday: Or does it?
javabeans: Touché. Let’s do this systematically, and start with leaders. There’s Lee Min-ho, Jang Dong-gun…
girlfriday: Wait, why does Yoochun get to be a leader twice?
javabeans: Ha, I just realized that. Although I guess you could argue that Daemul is the leader of one of those. Or we can swap out ducklings with ANJELLs, if we want to go with iconic foursomes.
girlfriday: Both can play.
javabeans: Are we doing FIVE fours? The math is going to be the end of me.
girlfriday: We can do it! It’ll work. I think.
javabeans: That’s what she said?
girlfriday: STOP THAT.
javabeans: It’s like an earworm. You just can’t get rid of the annoyingly catchy song at will, or without first infecting others.
girlfriday: But you could keep it to yourself.
javabeans: Why spare others when I could share? I’m not a noble idiot here.
girlfriday: Well you’re certainly not noble. (Snaaaaap!) Okay, so leaders… well they’re all pretty diva-esque.
javabeans: I’d argue that Daemul is the “best” leader in that (s)he inspires the others to follow, whereas Hwang Tae-kyung and Gu Jun-pyo are sorta ruling with an iron fist.
girlfriday: Though Yi Gak kinda wins in that he’s a royal, so his posse literally bows at his feet.
javabeans: He gets the easiest pass as leader given his bloodline, but the flipside of that is that he doesn’t earn it, no?
girlfriday: Yeah, he gets backlash when his minions realize that in the 21st century, they get to be on equal footing.
javabeans: And they’ll always have their minor rebellions against him, whether it’s by withholding their beer or crunching food symbolically. On the plus side, at least one of those ducklings is prepared (and trained) to give up his life for him, which I’m not sure anyone else can boast.
girlfriday: I think Daemul’s got a pretty solid bodyguard in Guhro.
javabeans: I buy that he’d risk his safety to save her. I’m not convinced he’d give up his life entirely, though. But Guhro totally wins in the broodiest sidekick category.
girlfriday: Probably. But who’s his competition?
javabeans: Um… rapping gangster chaebol boy?
girlfriday: Or Jung Yong-hwa? I think Kim Min-jong is headed that way.
javabeans: No, not Kim Min-jong! *Sadface*
girlfriday: I know! I have so much involuntary love for any character he plays. It’s such a holdover from the 90s. There’s gotta be a clinical term for that. 90s Idol Hangover?
javabeans: Drama Association Beer Goggles?
girlfriday: The Transitive Property of Drama Hero-dom?
javabeans: As things stand now, though, Guhro’s probably the most thwarted in love, stepping aside so his leader can have the girl instead. Although he didn’t sing her a tearful song, Jeremy-style. I guess Shi-woo hyung might count, but to be honest, I’m not sure he could emote anything, so I put Jeremy ahead of him on the pain scale.
girlfriday: I luff Jeremy. So squishable.
javabeans: He really did give that character added oomph. And yes, *squish.* Guhro did get a bromance out of the deal, though, so you can’t feel too sorry for him.
girlfriday: And not just a consolation bromance, but an epic bromance to end all bromances.
javabeans: Which bromance was more epic, though—that one, or the fanfic slash three-way between the ANJELL boys?
girlfriday: I think Sungkyunkwan still wins all slashy awards. That drama spawned more fanfic than… anything ever.
javabeans: True, Sungkyunkwan’s real-life slashfic way outnumbers ANJELL’s fictional slashfic. The math wins in this one. I wonder if Yi Gak had the best posse, in that none of his boys challenged him for the girl, but were busy little Cupids instead. I suppose F3 were supportive, too, but you can’t really beat matching tracksuits or couple (quartet) tees, can you?
girlfriday: F4 had a quartet of sports cars? Yeah, I dunno.
javabeans: Maybe that’s the rich people version of male bonding. Driving, skiing, shooting, and kayaking together. This is how we support our leader, by having matching cars and boats and helicopters. OH WAIT, JI-HOO. He totally challenged Jun-pyo for the girl. It was a whole thing!
girlfriday: OH. I forgot all about him!
javabeans: I was like, I know there’s a fourth guy, but who was he?
girlfriday: So maybe he wins for most broody unrequited whatchamacallit.
javabeans: He did have pancakes of sadness and other tragic foodstuffs.
girlfriday: And sad hair. Or… was that just regular hair?
javabeans: You can never tell with idols. He had a violin, though. Those are sad, right?
girlfriday: They are when you play them in the snow.
javabeans: And they cut your fingers, mirroring the cutting of your heart.
girlfriday: Pffft. Well then I’m back on Team Guhro, ‘cause he got cut with SWORDS.
javabeans: That was never any contest. Guhro could cut you with his stare.
girlfriday: Rawr.
javabeans: Although if we go back to the whole hair thing… Guhro, mebbe not so much. Does Jun-pyo win for rocking a hairstyle that has no business being rocked, or does Hwang Tae-kyung win for the sheer crazy?
girlfriday: Hair Award goes to Hwang Tae-kyung, hands down.
javabeans: Also, the guyliner award.
girlfriday: Very important. He probably also wins the skinny jeans award, though Yi Gak pulls in quite a showing.
javabeans: Who put up with the most humiliation for the girl, you think? Jan-di sure put Jun-pyo through the wringer, but Yi Gak had Troll hair and acid washed jeans. Still, I’m not sure you can top vomit in mouth.
girlfriday: Yup. Winner. Or… Loser. Each foursome always has a playboy, right? Er, more of a playboy than the others?
javabeans: Lessee, there’s Kim Bum with the saxophone of all cringiness. And Yeo-rim the fashion designer, though he seemed way more cuddly with his bro than with any ladies.
girlfriday: There’s the eunuch playboy Chi-san. Still don’t get.
javabeans: Yeah me neither.
girlfriday: There’s Lee Jong-hyuk, the married playboy. He wins for Biggest Cad.
javabeans: When marriage enters the equation, you stop being a playboy and just turn into an ass. And on the flipside of that, it makes eunuch boy the most harmless playboy.
girlfriday: What about on the friendship scale? F44’s gotta win ‘cause they’ve been friends for twenty-two years. Though… with the time-travelers, have they been friends for three hundred years?
javabeans: I think you have to be conscious for that time to count, so F44 wins. Hwang Tae-kyung seems to have a distant relationship with his ANJELL boys, so he’s on the bottom end of the friendship meter.
girlfriday: I’m trying to figure out what F4 has in common except being filthy rich.
javabeans: F4 have been friends for the greatest percentage of their lives, though, meaning they have shaped each other more than F44, who met as adults, right?
girlfriday: More or less. They met at 18.
javabeans: Whereas F4 have been together since kindergarten and spent their formative years together. Although… I’m not sure that’s a good thing, actually. Can’t you imagine them all being so fixed in their roles that they go to college and are the new jjangs, and then fearfully look over their shoulders half-expecting Jun-pyo to be there with his tyrant’s orders? Compared to, say, the Sungkyunkwan 4, who meet young enough to grow into their ideals together, but have distinct roles outside the group. You know, like avenging and fashion designing.
girlfriday: Ha. I do agree that Joseon 4 has the best grouping of distinct personalities. They have the best new friendship, and F44 has the best old friendship.
javabeans: Do you not love how in this very small sampling of an entirely unrelated topic, we have TWO cross-dressing heroines in disguise cohabitating with their future boyfriends?
girlfriday: Hahaha. So then we have to throw that into the competition too! Which foursome has the best non-boy?
javabeans: Both heroines are doing it to help out their family, so nobility scale is even. On the idiot half, however… One’s a smarty-smart scholar, and the other one glues her fingers together. What adult woman does that?
girlfriday: The kind that vomits in other people’s mouths?
javabeans: Ha. But Mi-nyeo (I just can’t call her Mi-nam, when she’s not a nam and not her brother!) helps her man deal with a crippling condition. Sun-joon needs no such help.
girlfriday: But Tae-kyung finds out right away that Mi-nyeo is a girl, whereas Sun-joon actually accepts the fact that he loves Yoon-hee even if that means he’s gay. Winner!
javabeans: Tae-kyung never really got the chance to test that, so I can’t hold it against him. If Sun-joon were faster on the uptake, he wouldn’t have HAD to face that question.
girlfriday: That’s true. He is quite dim in that respect.
javabeans: Tae-kyung wins for thoughtful gifts. He made her a Pig-Rabbit! And spent a hundred bucks on a plastic hairclip! He wins 100 points out of 10!
girlfriday: Haha, I forgot about his crazy scale and point system. Yes, he does win for best gifty, though it’s his own damn fault for spending that much.
javabeans: Maybe he thought it was 100 bucks out of 10.
girlfriday: He does math like us.
javabeans: Wait, if we’re no longer just restricting the conversation to ladies in drag, do we have to include Jun-pyo’s outlandish gifts into this equation? He bought Jan-di clothes and jewels and a one-of-a-kind necklace and a freaking private plane ride to New Caledonia and I think also Macau… If he’d had his way he would’ve bought her the world, or as much of it as he could afford. Stupid and misguided, but kind of incredibly sweet too.
girlfriday: Urg, rich boys. Then I guess Yi Gak and his black card, rooftop-room-remodeling self is some fierce competition too.
javabeans: Ohhh, right. He bought her a penthouse and a juice store too. C’mon Sun-joon, what’s with your lack of gifting? Or in this scenario, does that actually speak well of him?
girlfriday: Did he not get her anything? That can’t be true.
javabeans: Maybe… a pile of books or something?
girlfriday: Oh, he wrote her those adorable love notes tucked in books. Just what a brainy girl would want.
javabeans: Who wins, star-moon necklace, or star-moon metaphor? One got lost a lot, and the other got beat into our heads a lot.
girlfriday: They cancel each other out.
javabeans: I’ll give it to the ajusshis for being the snazziest dressers. Those sharp suits!
girlfriday: Right? So. Much. Eye. Candy. The only other foursome with decent clothes is Sungkyunkwan, just ‘cause period costumes keep them from veering into fashion WTFery.
javabeans: Yeo-rim did have his flowery fans and luxury silk hanboks, but at least they were still beautiful clothes. A far cry from ripped Flashdance sweaters, saggy-crotched pants of doom, recycling-bin castoffs, or ascots and brocade waistcoats on a 19-year-old. There are just some things that get better with age.
girlfriday: So… which foursome wins the cagematch?
javabeans: The only way to find out is to lock them all in the cage and make them fight it out. Maybe in Jell-o.
girlfriday: Then… Winner: Jell-o.
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Tags: 1 show to rule them all, A Gentleman's Dignity, Boys Before Flowers, conversation post, featured, Rooftop Prince, Sungkyunkwan Scandal, Thing vs. Thing, You're Beautiful
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101 Stef
June 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM
I think foursomes (hehehe) ultimately started with the beatles and such groups.
I'm really liking these segments, i'll give a score of 10,000 out of 10.
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102 Hang
June 5, 2012 at 11:11 PM
So funny, I can't decide between SKKS F4 and ANJELL :)
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103 Rovi
June 5, 2012 at 11:33 PM
Are you including the upcoming Korean Hana Kimi, which BTW has been renamed? *cringe*Oh wait, that makes 3 (Sano, Ashiya, Nakatsu), I guess... *fail*Anyways, why no Flower Boy Ramyeon Shop? Boo~... T~T
But still, l♥vel♥vel♥ve your Thing vs. Thing... XD
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104 k-soup
June 6, 2012 at 1:54 AM
A.N Jell still No.1 in my heart! ♥
I would love to hear this in a podcast! :D
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105 gratisetamore
June 6, 2012 at 9:33 AM
DB , you sure is milking your bias dry against Kim Hyun Joong's character in BOF disguised as an essay of foursomes in Kdrama.
You did try your best to be an astute observer of Kdrma tendencies but I see through your disgusting colossal efforts. You run out of topic to explore?
In as much as you try to pull him down -obviously you are way down below him and all the rest who seem to enjoy all these tirades. Enjoy your fun , if you think you are going anywhere . Besides,misery seeks company.
Ciao!
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shaista
June 6, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Don't be bitter. Here's cookies.
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106 noi
June 7, 2012 at 1:32 AM
lmao~ personally, i'd prefer to address sungkyunkwan scandal f4 as "jalgeum quartet". and they're my favorite of all those on this list~ <3
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107 elly
June 7, 2012 at 2:04 AM
this is so funny.yeah i dun understd why boys hb to comr in 4s n girls in3s.haha.so there are no clear winner right?
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108 WhyWhy(Not)Me
June 7, 2012 at 2:12 AM
Awww all this talk about F4 and the powerful 4s make me nostalgic...as well as wondering when will i EVER get ONE (JUST ONE) guy like them?!?!T___T
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109 brenda
June 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM
Jalgeum quartet for me all the way. SKKS is my all time favorite historical drama to date.
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110 kaoru kamiya takishima
June 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Omo!!!!!! I read the title and screamed...
It's a funny thing I watched almost all those dramas except the F44's..
It started with BOF -- with Lee Min Ho's and Kim Bum's killer smiles...It all started my[I mean our,including my classmates] intense addiction to kdramas..
Then came You Are Beautiful -- Jang Geun Seuk ruled this time...
Recently, I finished watching Sungkyunkwan Scandal...And the SoonJoon/JaeShin/YongHa won my heart...
While the Rooftop Prince F4 are just adorable and funny that's why I love them... :D (esp Chi San)
..i started even thinking why most of them come in groups of 4 ..lol XD ...
..i loved them all, but I choose Sungkyunkwan F4/Jalgeum Quartet... I think the lovable bromance tops it all.. I was so happy to learn that Yoo Ah In and Song Joong Ki oppa won a best couple award (I heard Yoochun and Minyoung too) in KBS Drama Awards.. :D :D
btw, as much as i LIKE the SKK like team Park-Park(Yoochun/Minyoung) couple, i LOVE the Min-Min(MinHo/Minyoung) couple of City Hunter..they have more chemistry...
--if it is the body swapping thing vs. thing, oh well it is undeniably Secret Garden...its hilariousness(and Hyun Bin's funny way in portraying Gil Ra Im) is so daebak!
--in the cross-dressing, i don't know why but i don't like the martyrdom of eun chan *grins*.. i like mi man/mi nyeo more...(is it true that there'll be a korean version of hanazakari no kimitachi e??
P.S. sorry for the long comment.. :)
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111 grace, the one from Jersey, USA
June 11, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Thanks a lot, javabeans and girlfriday. :(
I was at the library yesterday, and thought
that I would check out a few things on THEIR
COMPUTER, with a fast visit to this site just
to see what's cookin'.
I started to quietly chuckle when I read of
Lee Min-ho's trendsetting ability, but when I
read the phrase "the pancakes of sadness"
(Ahhhhh. The pancakes of sadness and the
porridge of pain. It's almost paradise, huh?)
I TOTALLY LOST IT........I TOTALLY LOST IT.
I had to mumble to the people nearby,
"Uhhh, it's Korean TV. It's very funny stuff."
Of course, everyone who heard my excuse
for laughing out loud (SO MUCH) thought
that I'm a total idiot.
PS......If each of you both had evil twins,
then you two, would be 4, too. :) :) :) :)
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JangGeunSuk'sWife
April 14, 2013 at 5:44 AM
Grace. Oh you! Now I'm totally laughing out loud again @ your comment. As if Hooting throughout JB and GF's Thing vs Thing was not enough.
***PS……If each of you both had evil twins,
then you two, would be 4, too.***
floored me with this one.lol
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112 goldeng
June 28, 2012 at 6:31 PM
you guys are hilarious!! i was gonna say you forgot FBRamyun shop guys and Coffee Prince but theyre more than 4 with ahjussi and eun chan who was a boy too... but well, theyre awesome too!! :)) ohh i just remember my biases from all these Foursomes!! Yi jung! Jeremy!! Song Man bo! yoon oppa!!! <333 THEYLL FIGHT IT IN JELL-O?!! just tell me when and ill bring my popcorn *----*
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113 Kaye
February 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM
Hey! If Jun Pyo showers Jan Di with material things, Yi Gak/Tae Yong reconstruct the rooftop and gave Park Ha her fruit juice store, Tae Kyong bought Mi Nam/Mi Nyu the clip, made the pig-rabbit and gave her a necklace... You forgot that Sun Joon bought Yoon Shik/Yoon Hee a couple ring, its not just the love letters.. I don't know for the F44s, haven't watched that actually..
*just saying* although this thing vs thing is awesome, had a great time reading it, KUDOS!!
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114 JangGeunSuk'sWife
April 14, 2013 at 5:35 AM
***He did have pancakes of sadness and other tragic foodstuffs.***ROTF. hickhick.
GF and JB: seriously if i die from laughing, my blood will be on your hands!!!
Needless to say ( refer to profile name) my fav 4sum is the JGS quartet. *takes deep breaths coz heart starts palpitating*
Sure, BOF got me ODDing on Kdrama but its JGS' one eyed glare that got me into mini-cardiac-arrest-mode. Still does. The Rooftop Ducklings were a hoot too.
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115 zeffir
April 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM
Some "boys" 4 had a lady in them, so the math with ladies' trios would work ;)
Joseon scholars 4 are best in my opinion, but how you could say that F4's Ji Hoo was forgetabble? He was the one who brought me into k-drama and k-pop land!
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116 Haffy
June 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM
This review made me alternate between sniggering, giggling like a loon and quite literally rolling on my bed laughing out loud! (I'm pretty sure my roommates think I'm crazy) I'm still fairly newish to K drama (does 5 month count as newish?) and drama beans has been THE go to source for me in terms of what to watch vs what not to watch.. I haven't really taken the chance to comment before but just wanted to thank all the wonderful reviewers for their amazing recaps/reviews and always amusing commentary!
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