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Myung-wol the Spy unable to complete shoot, to air special

Oy vey. The reports are conflicting, the response is growing heated, and confusion abounds over the immediate fate of Myung-wol the Spy, which was thrown into chaos over the weekend when its star, Han Ye-seul, didn’t appear for her scheduled shoots.

The trouble began on Saturday the 14th when Han, who was scheduled for an early morning shoot, didn’t appear. Her side seemed as confused as everyone else, and stated that the shoots had gone so far into the night that she only had two hours after being released before her next day’s call time. Then stories emerged that Han and the PD, Hwang In-hyuk, have been at odds since the very start, which has only grown more contentious as filming went on. They’d fought fiercely on set earlier in the week, and Han had repeatedly requested a PD switch. A new PD was brought onboard but PD Hwang remained, which appears to have been a halfhearted non-attempt to appease her.

According to a production rep, Han expressed her problems with the schedule, and when those differences were not resolved, told the director that she wouldn’t make the Saturday shoot. The explanation was her ill health due to the shooting schedule, but apparently the crew still expected her, and the cast was in standby mode until shooting was eventually cancelled.

Han didn’t shoot on the 15th, either, and with the drama up to its neck in live shoots, that left the show with only 40% of its scenes shot for this coming week. KBS and the producers met on Sunday for emergency meetings to try to resolve the conflict, but ultimately the show was too far behind and they decided to go with the time-honored solution to many a last-minute broadcasting emergency: a special episode, whipped up to fill the timeslot.

That’s the plan for Monday; producers are still not sure what to do with Tuesday’s broadcast.

Okay, so those are the facts. To be honest, this story doesn’t add up for me, which is why I hesitate to make any declarations. I recall that Han had made the request before the drama began that the shoots adopt a less killer schedule, along the lines of a five-day workweek. Those rumors faded once the drama got under way, which suggests that she found a way to reconcile herself with the schedule. Or perhaps (and now I speculate) she was assured of a lighter load, only to be worked to the bone anyway.

I do think that Han’s behavior is clearly unprofessional, but because of the way this story has been reported and sensationalized in the past day, I’m not ready to condemn her yet. She would have to know how damaging to her image it would be to refuse to shoot — and she’s already getting lots of heat from netizens — so I wonder how bad it must be for her to risk it anyway. Then again, maybe she didn’t think. Who knows what the real story is?

As we know, the K-drama live-shoot system is hectic, possibly dangerous, and definitely crazy. It’s flawed, but as long as productions believe that the rewards (freedom to adjust on the fly, cater to ratings) outweigh the costs, they’ll keep doing it as long as they can get away with it. But one can’t help but wonder when the broadcasters will get sick enough of the madness to impose some rules from the top down to create some safety nets. In the case of Myung-wol the Spy, it’s one actress refusing to shoot, but in other cases, a delay of just a day or two from accidents and injuries can take a drama off the air (see: Boys Before Flowers, You’ve Fallen For Me). Surely we need more buffer time than that.

If Myung-wol fails to air this week, on the upside (glass half full!), perhaps they won’t need their two-episode extension after all. The story doesn’t need the extension, and it was more out of consideration for follow-up drama Poseidon than for Myung-wol anyway. If Myung-wol resumes broadcasting next week, it can end with Episode 16 and still let Poseidon premiere as scheduled.

There, I turned that frown upside-down. It’s sort of a twisted grimace, but hey, it’s not ALL bad news, right?

(Also: I say this because of the massive derail in the thread below, but let me just remind you to please, please keep things civil. Arguments fine, attacks not fine. Don’t make me come over there.)

Via Star News, TV Report

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Love the MW and Ryu pic!

This story is getting me really curious since there are so many conflicting reports. And it's strange for HYS to do something like this that will jeopardize her professional image and her management is all butter fingers! And also strange that the PD will go ahead and air out the dirty laundry while the drama is filming. There must be something more to this. And I wonder what is supposedly so wrong with Hwang PD.

Feel really bad for the bystanders like Eric, Lee Jin Wook and the rest of the cast and crew. How awkward must it be to just stand around, wait for HYS, and watching this war between the PD and HYS.

I still don't get the live shoots. I feel like other countries can still produce hit shows WITHOUT live shoots, so why does korea need those live shoots? I don't think anyone in the industry is going to take these live shoot problems seriously until someone dies.

There is no way they are going to get a Tuesday episode out too with only 40% of the thing filmed. It probably took 2 entire days to get that 40%, so I doubt Monday is enough to get the other 60%

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Technically, a lot of countries that run "soaps" have the on-going film process. It's just more obvious in the Korean industry, imo, because of short drama runs, high production costs, and the amount of national and international attention on the success of drama in Korea.

But yea, I totally feel for your "it must be awkward for the others" thing. In these types of situations, I understand the need for clear-headed thinking and the obviousness of the reasons for why other stars dont put their input but that doesnt prevent me from wondering what the others are thinking (Lol, some of the fan comments are already like, "OMG HE TWITCHED. That MUST mean he's angry," lol. Not nec. for this situation but in general).

Let's just hope that this isnt a ratings hype and she's just the fall girl... that would be silly lol.
I just hope they continue the series and have it end on a happy note (Which I'm sure it will, knowing the hush hush PR faces of the industry). I need that continued wackiness on the series.

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Javabeans. Okay,

I have come up with the perfect solution. Javabeans, as you know, some of us have seen your face... So, you are a perfect replacement!!!!

Just fly over to Korea right now! You CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

Take her place, finish up the drama and you will be come an overnight sensation!!! You can even help with the writing when you are not acting. It's a win/win situation!

You can pick Girlfriday up on your way and she can be your body double. She'll do all the difficult scenes like swinging from ropes and fighting and stuff.

And you get to Kiss Eric and Lee Jin-wook!!!!!

It's PERFECT!!!!!!!

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LOOOL! Where'd you see JB's face....now i'm really curious if she looks like HYS

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Now that's a secret! One I am not allowed to reveal. :-)

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I should also make some clarifiers. My comment is meant to be funny, but also indicate that both JB and GF are very beautiful women. And, I think they are so wonderful they would be able to take an actresses place and get the job done!

I love you JB and GF!!! *HUGS*

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If they weren't "pretty" it wouldn't matter in the slightest either. They are cool. They are smart. And their wit and sassy-ness are top notch.

I never met them, but I think of their writing as an inspiration. They have that way of making already beautiful things even more amazing and possible controversial things more logical and clarifying. I really admire them both!

Though, of course, them being physically "beautiful" is perfectly fine. Yay for them!

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I think they would make perfect spys, because they are ALL THAT!!!

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*chortle*

MJP we have to think this one through. If both Girlfriday and Javabeans are gone who will be recapping tango-licious scenes? Who will be there giving us shower-scene-stills before they have even dried are male leads down (down...down..)? We need them here....waiting to post things.

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Samsooki, Santa, Gummimochi, Kaedejun, Aberdeen_Angus (sp?) etc. The talent is all there!!!

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Ah! That's true, that's true!

Well....since we have replacements....Just ship 'em. If JB and GF are there they can probably vouch for the important things on our behalf: shower scenes, french kisses, the absence of illogicality!

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EXACTLY!!!

There is a flight leaving LAX on Monday 8/15/11 at 8:30 a.m.

JB and GF... Can you make it?

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Will they have to take a Breath-O-Lyzer to get onboard the flight?
If so, good luck with that...

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err, my understanding and basic working assumption is that if javabeans and girlfriday both go to korea to star in a k-drama, that they will take me with them, because my head would explode in jealousy if I got left behind... sorry...

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That's ok. You can go too! There are still the others to do the writing! But we have to draw the line some where. No other DB writers can go!!!

Just JB, GF and Samsooki!

Hurry now, you missed the first flight of the day. Should we have the broadcasting company send a private jet over to pick all three of you up?

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It is also basic understanding that until September 19th-ish....all three of you will be sleep-deprived, working with a bunch of tired people and a potentially very demanding PD, preparing and filming 22 hours a day. Two meals a day promised though!
Still up for it to sign the contract?

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@ Ginnie,

Food, shelter, water, all very minor details when one can be sitting in on set watching Eric in the shower (rawr). Plus it's a broadcasting station right? Anytime Girlfriday looks like she is going to faint or collapse from malnutrition they could always dangle the concept of a Lee Seung-gi cameo in front of her or what-not.

They'll be fine.

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GUYs! This is seriously getting so dramatic, that I don't even know who to side with! In all honesty, now I'm just P-I-S-S-E-D...as a fan of SMW, and being so pumped because of how the last episode ended. I was waiting this whole week for the next one! and now its not gonna air *sigh*....But in all seriousness HYS need to open her MOUTH and start saying something...because this just looks bad...she should clear up allot of things....now that we realized that it actually has to do with the PD and HYS. A simple explanation on her side...might make this look better, like maybe that she was demanded to be on set when she shouldn't be (instead of 2am...5am filming) and because of this she would leave when she knew it was her time to go...like not over-working herself.

*Note: This is stuff i'm just saying that she should say, if true! Who knows if this is what actually is occurring.

But ohhh lets make this more juicy...maybe she can't come out at all because the PD harassed her- GASP! :O That's whats been said by many on forums...this is seriously getting so out of hand.

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Han Ye Seul is no rookie to the industry, so she would have known that an action like this had a 90% probability to turn into a smear campaign for her with the way netizens tend to go. That being said, this makes me think that there must be a very serious and pressing matter going on that she would risk her reputation and future job offers.

Sidus HQ is such a big agency in Korea, yet I feel like they are not handling this matter on par with what is required to go against the big guns of rumor-mongering and KBS. They need to step it up to defend their actress, this is all getting quite out of hand.

I hope a resolution can be found soon. I did enjoy this drama. :(

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I think she went through something similar a few years ago? I don't remember what exactly, but some people were saying how unprofessional she was, something was said. LOL I couldn't be more vague.

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I think it was the fact that she left an award show right after another actress was announced the winner of the award. She was a nominee so it made her look bad, but she also stated on her site, that she wasn't feeling well and that's why she left, and she would stay if she felt better or something along those lines....that was in 2008.

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On the other hand, I WANT her blazer! I've been looking for the same one for ages.

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On the one hand, yeah, this is terrible for the production and maybe (based on comments on the first page) she could've been more professional about it, but at the same time, I can't help but feel sympathetic to her. I've definitely been in a place where I feel like I'm being taken advantage of but I can't complain about it and I can't complain about it and I can't complain about it - until one day you're so exhausted and so angry and so fed up that you don't care anymore; you're done. That doesn't magically resolve the problem here, with regards to the production, and certainly it doesn't absolve her of certain responsibilities or expectations, but I still can't really fault her.

On a semi-related note: Lord, I hope they revise the live shoot system soon. It seems like every week there's word of another accident or a breakdown on set fueled by exhaustion, and that's just the actors and the directors. How much stress must the staff and crew be dealing with? How many of them are in accidents or missing nights of sleep trying to rush to get episodes down on time?

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Er, let's pretend I meant to write "down" instead of "done." That sentence still works, right? Right? Right.

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I totally understand what you mean. Allot of people on here are saying that she is so unprofessional and all that jazz- and how Park Shin Hye went to work even though she felt sick- but it's also the fact that maybe she was pushed around and also had her issues, but just decided not to say anything. I get kinda annoyed that people think they know everything about someone and their life stories! There's a major possibility that many others in the acting business are being pushed around just like she is, but they just decide to stick with it, and risk their health. People should think about it...she's been overworking herself- ( she's in every scene, and if not in a scene it's no more than a 2 min) and this is also a SPY show which consists of stunts, that she might or might not have to do. I give her kudos for sticking up for herself...but we still don't know the whole story...so i'm on stand-by right now. She needs to come out and say something.

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Memlu - totally get your point about trying to be accommodating, accommodating, accommodating, then BAM! to be done. Just done.

S.M - good point about the physicality of the show.

That said, I hope she got or is getting a lot of sleep. And that that accounts for lack of good PR spin on her/her agency's side.

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hv u guys read the article in allkpop!!!
eric wasted 16hours just waiting to go back filming without resting & wearing thick makeup!!!

that's professional i say!!!

HYS u owe everybody a sincere apology!!! i hope your reason is good enough to make us forgive u!!
or else you'r just too much

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Read it...and I don't know where I stand on that either...Allkpop said "from our sources" What sources? LOL people could just be making bullshit up and telling it to the paparazzi who than write about it.

I swear this is how it could have went.

Someone saw him leave the set with the same clothe and go in his car.

*End of STORY*

Than they report it, saying that he's been waiting at home with the same clothe's for sixteen hours, because he's went home with it. That's just gross and I'm pretty sure he went to bed (that what they stated on allkpop, even though he was 'anxious' he still tried to sleep) which means he must have taken his make-up off.

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Actually they quoted a news article. If you want to blame someone, blame Star News.

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Thanks for pointing that out...I was seriously wondering what sources they had, and if they were so in touch with Eric, if they could somehow give me his address *wink* hehe

But yeah, still either if its Allkpop or Star News. It these 'sources' that they use that I just don't trust- at all.

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I kept reading that article and literally laughing onto my keyboard.

"Eric is in a situation where he has been waiting for filming to restart since 7PM on August 14th. Because he is unsure of when filming will continue, he was unable to change out of his costume and makeup." (Allkpop article you mentioned)

Seriously? He is just waiting, in his make-up, not sleeping, wearing his CLOTHES from the shoot?

Surely he can't be so flustered he can't put on a pair of pajama pants for fear of not being able to take them off again in a timely manner? I mean.....how long can it possibly take to put on a suit? Surely the 12 hour mark would be a sign that a shower and new make-up will be needed anyway? He can't be sitting there, for two days, huddled up, wondering when to make a mad dash out of his house to the set of his drama....make-up and clothes perfectly intact....How distraught can one man be Allkpop and your "sources"??

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Hahahahh! That's what I was saying. I was actually picturing Eric all alone in his dark apartment, siting on the edge of his bed, sweat rolling down his temple...and his phone an inch away from him on LOUD. The image itself made me piss my pants, it's just so ridiculous, what are the staff and crew also waiting for 16 hours (people who have families, mind you and a LIFE) . Is the PD on his chair? Is that random guy holding the mic in the air, waiting for the minute Han Ye Seul comes on set? People need to use there heads, Eric can sit and relax, because when they do call him, many other things need to occur before he can actually start taping.

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Hahaha "Is that random guy holding the mic in the air!" and "sweat rolling down his temple....and his phone an inch away from him on LOUD."

I love you S.M.!

Best lines ever. I had that image too! He was huddle in a ball...on his couch...staring at his phone that was perfectly placed in front of him, smacking himself every time sleep was about to kick in.

It's just so ridiculous that the article didn't come of as "sympathizing" but rather "SYMPATHIZE WITH ME!" And by that I don't mean Eric, but rather whoever this "source" is and article writer who clearly doesn't know the limits of creative justice.

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Hahhaha now i'm seriously dying...him "sitting in a ball" and "smacking himself". Ah and if you just read what some of these people are writing on Allkpop...like come one. Do they actually believe this? It truly scares me how some people don't even second guess where these articles are coming from.

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Allkpop doesn't write their articles. Those are translated from Korean sources. How accurate & smooth their translations are another question, much depends on a particular poster

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S.M.,

I seriously was laughing myself into my own "neurotic ball." What I love even more is the indignant readers of the article!

One of them notes, "poor eric. he didn't even say anything"

(He can't speak. He's looking at his phone, in his clothes and makeup from the set....17th hour, you know?)

And then some hundred-some stating how "poor" he is.

Yes. Yes he would really be poor if he is at home....in his apartment....16 hours later....in the same clothes and make-up waiting to rush OUT of his apartment...

Everyone MUST be on set, perfectly done-up, (holding that mic dammit!), until our female lead chooses to teleport herself into the middle of the set.

I love that article *smile*

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I could quote a hundred more, no one seems to be logical at all.

This article was obviously made to make Han Ye Seul look worse than she already is. Now everyone is bashing her, for making "poor" Eric wait 16 hours "confined" in his house. Not daring to take his make-up off. He probably didn't dare even take a piss, because what if they called him while he was on the toilet *gasp*. Than everything is ruined. A whole other week of now SMW, because Eric decided to use the restroom.

@ Aime- I meant the commenters on Allkpop

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Whoever said he could use the toilet?! He must be prowling on the outskirts of the set at all times.

They have a wacky plot anyway. They can work it in. Like Myung-wol suddenly disappears and we have 1 hour of clips from the distraught (no, but really) crew, and Eric, equally distraught, pacing.

I'd watch it.

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Hahahah ah Mia <3

IF only people used there brains a little bit more, they would see how crazy this is all is.

Totally agree! Or they could have her go into operation, use a double, they could make some lame excuse like she hit a blood vessel or something- and need intensive care. And then maybe they can go all secret garden on us. Have Myung Wol go into Erics body!

The ideas are endless. Or maybe, maybe THEY could actually spend time on the ancient books ( I don't really give 2 cents about that story line) which they really need to make sense of. And that spy girl.

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Angst is delicious! Let them embrace it! The potato-spud from the shot gun has rendered her unconscious (enough velocity...), Eric starts the obligatory body-tremble (17 hours in the same pair of pants I would be trembling too), and then they can do whatever they want....as long as it's rain soaked.

(How about the OTHER North Korean spy starts comforting him! Same plot....no girls? They can be jealous and tough...together ♥ Aww.)

Oh those books....I don't even watch the drama but the recaps about the books seem so....unexciting. How contrary to what books really are! Shame on them, tsk tsk.

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Yes maybe 4 shower scenes each for both Ryu and Eric. It would please us all and forget all about Han Ye Seul and the controversy.

I wouldn't mind if Eric and Ryu started jumping into "Without You" from 2pm while in the rain.

It totally refers to Myung-Wol...."I'm gonna be okay, gonna be okay....baby, without you"

Ofcourse you guys are you have eachother...love BROMANCE.

Ah man! Now im seriously curious if there gonna drop HYS. Just like the dropped Megan Fox from Transformers. Wonder who would play her....that girl from MY GF is a Guhmio looks good. Shin-Min Ah....i think?

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S.M.,

You're gonna get a kick from this (not literally, how awful, though on this comment board.....possible).

On the Allkpop site they changed the picture of Han Ye-seoul in their post "KBS Will Take Legal Action on Han Ye-seul if She Does Not Show Up" (Sorry, that's more like the entire article..not a title.)

Anyway, the picture used to be her in a pretty white dress. It is now her in her North Korean uniform, aiming a gun in the distance. Heheh. Subtlety is thy name "reliable source" subtle....IS thy name (and that was me being subtle.)

Oh I demand at least 4 shower scenes. "Without U" followed by "Hawaiian Couple" "Cute, Cute...You are so cute! You are my cute lover. I love your collarbone."

I'd watch it. As long as their was collarbones....

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Just saw it, I also thought it was RUDE. Because she is in her NK outfit...and you know how crazy some of the SK's are about NK. Allkpop is not helping her at all, since this is the site that everyone who want's all things k-ent go too.

Allkpop needs to stop being so BIAS.

I also wanted to tell you about the recent news article about Taecyeon from 2pm and Jessica from SNSD. That made me LOL....people are going crazy just cause there hanging out together at a starbucks. It just made me think of the article about Eric. Everything always gets exaggerated. This article is getting them some heat. There companies already stated that there just friends.

One thing might I add....How to people even know its them? It kinda looks like them but still no faces.

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I think that bit is exaggerated too. I'm sure he's no longe in his make-up.

I hope this can be resolved quickly because there are many people involved...not just HYS and the PD.

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@Mia & SM,

I think the most part of that 16 hours wait was probably him waiting on film set instead of resting at home hence the unchanged costumes & make-up? He & crew were on standby on film set from 7AM on the 14th and production called it off at after 8AM on the 15th since Yeseul didn't show up. They manage to film parts with other casts though.... I guess they were on standby since they were still hoping Yeseul could come hence the wait?

I'm guessing, 'the source' in the article sounds more like some one closed to the drama production/staffs rather than just a random passerby. It seems normal practice in K-biz that they rarely disclose a specific name unless it's from the big wigs themselves. It's always like: from an official, a rep from such and such or from the 'sources' so I am not surprise :D

I feel sorry for those get caught in the dispute between the actress & production over PD Hwang

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I see your attempt to think logically. Unfortunately, this article is trying very hard not too. I would recommend you read it for yourself (don't be drinking water)...

http://www.allkpop.com/2011/08/eric-has-been-on-standby-for-over-16-hours-waiting-for-filming-to-resume

We're not so much poking fun at Eric himself (I doubt this situation is not-exaggerated), we are more so poking fun at the article - which is making some creative word-choices. (Common! "Anxious" for 16 hours? Can't take of mascara for 16 hours? Can't put on a different pant for 16 hours? S.M. and I are simply letting our imaginations take on a comical note. This topic is too serious anyway, so it's natural eh?)

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hehehe I did read that article before the reply. Agree that the article (or the translation choice of words) sounds more ridiculous than what it tries to convey XD

I'm just saying that the 16hrs wait was probably while he was standby on film set instead of the comfort of his home hence no cleaning off makeup or changing to a comfy PJ :D aish I'm also guessing like every one else base on when the stands by started XDD

How I wish CR were there so they start cracking the books' secret TOGETHER and get a leg up while waiting for MW to show.... wait, it's going to be long since replacement (JB) & her twinmate (GF) are coming all the way from LA :D

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Mia said it all. We aren't poking fun at him, and I know the logic your trying to put behind this. The article says he is confined at home- so I don't think he was waiting around on set, esp for a no-show like Han Ye Seul. It's just ridiculous that he can't seem to do anything for 16 hours.

The article is made to be poked fun at! Please read it, and laugh with us. This is just exaggerated to seriously make this more dramatic than it already is.

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S.M., I ♥ you. (Aime, you're very likeable too, naturally.)

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confined (lol-ing at the choice of word) at home could mean after he got back from the set :D

The 16hrs wait wasn't all sat around doing nothing since he and the other cast did film for the scenes don't have YS in it. You can read the article here.

http://absolutshinhwa.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/11-08-14-han-ye-seul-absent-from-filming-in-the-end-and-refuses-to-participate-in-15th-aug-filming/

any way, my 1st time watching Yeseul, Eric & JW drama and it's sad it turns out this way.

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Omg people. Eric is an adult. He can go to bed all by himself without milk and cookies and a bedtime story. I mean come on.

And for once and for all time people ALLKPOP is NOT a credible source. They are a gossip rag k-entertainment blog. Fun, but not going to hold up in the court of law. They've been doing it for a hot minute, but people act like they're quoting The Wall Street Journal or something.

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sigh I was so frazzled over this and went and watched Scent of a Woman. All better :) <3

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LOL!

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This is not good and it is loose-loose situation...

nobody is benefitting from failing to air the episodes, when all the viewers are all hyped up to heat of Myung-Wol...

I want to see this drama till the end. oh please please.. everybody just tolerate and co-operate with each other.

We're passed half of the story..

Aja-aja Fighting!!...

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Even though I don't know the whole story, sometime the way Asian people (I am also Asian) handle the business can be very unprofessional sometime! I assume that since HYS grew up in the US, she likes to speak up for herself when it starts to seem unfair to her! Fighting!!! I will still love you and watch your every work!!!! Big Hugs and LOVE!!! <3

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Now it's come out that she's not actually sick. She asked the PDs to be changed out and they didn't comply exactly (They just added another one) and after she found out, she called in and said she's not coming anymore.

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She was sick but the PD didn't comply with her requests for the schedule so she could have some time to recover so it's a combination of both reasons...or rather her health is the root and the PD change is the reason that stemmed out of her health issue and many others I'm sure.

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since when does "personal conflict" = "health issues"?

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Oh I'm sorry, I guess you believe everything that a PR rep has to say.

Anyway, once it goes to court, we will know what happened.

If she's really feeling ill treated, why didn't she come out and say it previously? Doesn't make sense.

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@Laeah!!!! Just a note to tell you to get a life, and a friend of a friend who is in the K-Drama industry toll me that you are behavior is beyond "Idiotic," stop trolling other peoples comments and get yourself a proper life, since you look like an attention seeking individual (Ho)!!!!!!!!!

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*Edit* "Your behavior"

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Aw Amg

Did you have to insult me because you don't have any reasonable argument to counter mine?

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Did Sidus HQ come out saying that it was because she wanted a PD change? Or was it just the other party? Because if Sidus HQ came out saying that as well, than of course it must be true, but if its only the other party than once again there are both sides to the story.

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It's from KBS.

But what did KBS have to gain from going public if they really did wrong?

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@ Laeah

and what does han ye seul have to gain from this? nothing but a tarnished reputation. i'm not a fan of han ye seul, but i don't like seeing you targeting her like this. you mock other posters for believing news sites but you're getting those same "facts" from those same sites. so you are more "right" because...?

unless you happen to be han ye seul or kbs or the PD in question, maybe you should just get off your high horse and chill for a bit.

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@snow - I know for a fact that she's not a good person. Again, if she handled it in an appropriate way, none of this would be happening, period. She brought it on herself.

Even though I know she's not a good person, if she had taken a clear stand against something and had evidence to back up some wrongdoings instead of calling and saying she quits and being continuously late and then her reps telling the media "she's sick" and agreeing with KBS's claims of her being consistently late and leaving and such.... I would be behind her 100%.

But she didn't do it... so I don't have any trust in her.

Han Ye Seul's side didn't say anything about this matter until KBS reported that she was missing.

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does that mean you know han ye seul personally? or just what you heard from others? because frankly, if it's another case of hearsay, then there's too much of it and you can shove it. also, you seem to assume she can just slap a lawsuit on kbs for contract violation. what do you think kbs is? your local grocery store that failed to deliver your groceries on time?

i think since something of this magnitude is happening, there must be things going on that are not privy to the public and the media are just running away with the bits they can seize on. we don't know what han ye seul can or cannot say, or how much she's said has been vetted by her reps, or how much the media has twisted this story. i mean, they even put out a story that eric was in costume for 16 hours... do we assume too that he didn't once go to the bathroom but sat waiting and waiting and waiting...?

just because you think she's "not a good person" doesn't mean she's the mastermind of all this. it takes two hands to clap. i don't think anyone of us is saying that she's the angel in this situation, but you're just projecting some kind of senseless hate on her before all the facts are known. and that's what i take issue with.

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I am close with a person who does know her personally. And the woman has the type of personality where she is deadly blunt. I have faith she'd not lie about something like this.

What about JYJ? They sued SM. Yes, it's still not perfect, but it's better than being under the contract. They still won. KBS is a big organization, sure, but if she was in the right, why would she hesitate? They would be nothing to lose if she knew 100% she had done nothing wrong.

I'm not sure when I called her names personally (I've quoted what I've heard) or attacked on anything other than based on the facts that I know. If it turns out to be something else, I will be the first one to change my mind, but this situation is suspicious and it doesn't look good in her case.

As for Eric going to the bathroom - did they need to give a play by play? Do you think they never go to the bathroom while in costume? Kind of an illogical argument.

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and look at where that got JYJ. blocked pretty much all over (bar their acting stints).

and you're right, they didn't need to give a play by play for eric. similarly, they're not doing it here for han ye seul - for reasons we don't know. like i said, fine if you don't like han ye seul, but with your posts so far, it's more than just not liking her based on what your friend said. it's pretty much picking at every single thing and painting her the villain. whether she is or not, the jury is still out. even if she is, will you be painting the town red with "i told you so!"? because that's the vibe i'm getting from all your posts so far and it's really made for unpleasant reading... all this based on something your friend said. i am not implying your friend lied, but excuse me if i don't see the need to air it all across this board.

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JYJ wanted to be free from SM, they got their wish. I didn't say it was perfect, but they are still making tons of money and still have tons of fans.

I've never said anything about it until now, actually, because it applies to the situation.

She has done more public stunts before too. Walking out of an awards show immediately after she lost to someone else? (She claimed she was sick then too.)

If it does happen that I'm right, I'm not going to be anymore satisfied. I just want to get to the bottom of it. People are making all kinds of speculation, this is mine. I believe what I believe based on the evidence I've been exposed to. If it turns out I'm wrong, so be it.

To be honest, I'm working on my final paper and this is far more interesting than working on it.

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are JYJ really making money? i don't know and don't care.

yeah i think we're all aware of han ye seul's previous gaffes. i don't think anyone posting on this board is under the illusion she's the angel in this situation. i have also read about the awards incident - i prefer to cut her some slack, but there will be others who'll be unforgiving and dredge it up every time she commits yet another gaffe.

she could be horrible, or just horribly misunderstood. but i'd rather not hit her when she's down. and right now, it's her reputation that's worse hit than kbs. so maybe it's not beyond us to be a little more generous at heart, even if she may not be the most likeable person on earth.

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so sorry to butt in, but how in the world did JYJ got dragged into this? please leave the poor boys alone, they don't need any more of this drama.

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JYJ do make money
Their homes are worth 2-3 million dollars each and thats profits from just one working year

DONT drag these boys into this mess
They work against an industry that does their best to destroy them and all they stand for

They have enough on their plate TYVM.

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What i'd like to know, is what is wrong with the PD??

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He didn't approve her schedule from the beginning and asked her to put more effort in. Pissed her off. So she asked for the PD to be changed.

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how do you know she didn't put in effort? how do you know that the PD isn't at fault? are you the PD or what?

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@ Laeah

Did Han Ye Seul...kill your family or something? o.O

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Lol! this made me laugh so hard. She really needs to let go of the vendetta and do some breathing exercises.

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I don't have a vendetta, but there is a lot being misstated from what actually happened and it's irritating to me, yes.

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@Simmy - I'm perfectly calm, dearie. :)

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hahahahhaaha :P i'm sorry that was so funny :P

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Did I ever say that was my personal belief? I said the PD asked her to put more effort in.

If the PD was at fault, why didn't she come out first and say something?

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"Han Ye Seul had been making continuous requests for the PD to improve the conditions she was working under."

Nuff said. She obviously got upset because he wasn't following her requests, and thus asked for a new PD. He asked her to put in more effort? I'm sorry if i was working my butt off, and in harsh conditions and some dude tells me to put in more effort when I already am. Than of course i'll be ticked.

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You get upset with me for making "assumptions", but aren't you making assumptions too?

How do you know what her behavior was like off set?

Somehow, I don't think your boss would pat you on the back if you were always late and left early.

What if she simply didn't want to work late hours like the rest of them? Is the director supposed to change the whole system because of one person?

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When did I get mad at you for making assumptions? o.O

You need to get your head sorted out, there's to many people on your list to comment back too.

Funny thing is that they DID decide to change the PD. Isn't that stating that there must have been a problem with them two if they willingly changed the PD?

It also funny that you seem to only take what you like form the article. You totally cut out the part that she MADE constant REQUESTS for the PD to improve the conditions she was working under.

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They didn't change PDs, they added one more along with the same PD. She didn't like that, so she called and said she wasn't going to show up anymore.

She made requests to fit filming to her personal schedule, damn what everyone wanted. Is that fair to everyone else?

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But they still changed the PD.

I understand some of what you say. But in all honesty I just don't like to be on one side of the fence, and I don't think anyone should. You're really giving it your all to make Han Ye Seul look like a major bitch. No one knows the real story. So many things have been said from both sides. She was demanding better conditions, and certain hours, and the PD was saying that she put in more work and effort. She seems to be someone who is very strong-willed and knows what she want's.

She's filming 5 times a day, taking one day off of the required seems fair, and they met too her demands, but apparently now shes working over-time till 5 am. And don't say because she walked out from other schedules and that why she worked till 5 am, maybe this is how it was going on all along, maybe she was being pushed to working extra hours, and that's why she didn't show up on the 12th untill 3pm, because she needed rest.

Just think of it this way, she seems to be on the show 90% of the time. And don't say they don't need her, if they filmed 40% with her and now they need to still finish 60% with her. You know she's working her butt off, as well as the fact that she is a SPY. She needs to do stunts- maybe a double does it for her sometimes, or maybe she does (just like Lee MinHo in City Hunter...he did one scene and bruised badly)

I think what makes you think she's so bitchy is the fact that she seems to say what she want's. I don't find that bitchy, unlike others...who work there hardest as well, but also risk their health, she seems to care for herself. This is probably how many actresses and actors work. But i find her personality very unique because she speaks up for herself.

In all there are many speculating stories going around, she has yet to state anything other than what her company said. We should all just wait to hear from her again.

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I am surprised I didnt know actors/actresses would be able to change PDs in a show.

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Dang! And I was so looking forward to Ep 11! Now I'm worried what's going to happen to the drama....and I haven't even seen Ryu shower yet....

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Oh, yes Ryu in the shower!

YY, you always think of the best scenes! Maybe you should go to Korea to help out finish the storyline. Are you up to it?

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The best comment ever...
Yes I want Ryuuuuuu

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LOL. Wow, looks like alot of people hating. I'm curious, where are all these news coming from?

Anyway, myung-wol the spy is a funny drama. I was waiting all week to watch it after the cliff hanger from last week. (sigh) Now I won't get to see it! blah!

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I'm so glad you are reporting it this way. It's true that so many people are being nasty and ignorant, accusing the actress of many things.

I hate seeing ignorant people say that she is lazy, doing this for attention, etc. It's true that she's not correct in what she's doing, but we also don't know completely what is going on. I don't think anyone has the right to attack or accuse her of anything unless they work within KBS (and know what's going on), or are the PD or HYS. If you don't know the situation don't make ignorant remarks. People who do that are not true 'fans' and only care about what they want, regardless of the actors/entertainers that have to suffer for it.

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The truth will only be known by those who work behind-the-scenes. I think the media is sensationalizing the issue way too much, so I can't really pick sides. I see faults with both sides, but overall, I don't really UNDERSTAND anything.

What did HYS's original contract state? I think the root of the issue is her contract. So many people are claiming this and that about her contract and using her contract as evidence against or for HYS. Either way, HYS's image has definitely suffered from this and the drama also will probably limp along. I feel bad for everyone involved in this and wish the truth were clearer.

Is this timeslot for KBS cursed? SMW is having problems, and the next drama airing (Poseidon) definitely has (and probably will continue to have) problems...sighh

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OK - my final word on this debacle.

Han Ye Seul, honey, I hope you're getting all the rest you need.

Eric, I hope you're taking advantage of the break in filming and getting yourself some beauty sleep as well.

I do hope to see a follow up to that hot kiss between you two (Eric, loved the way you pulled her tightly toward ya! Go, my man!) and the angsty non-confessions and tears at the end of Episode 10, I hope you all take care of yourselves.

And I hope that the other members of the cast and crew take advantage of this break to get some much needed rest.

Let the producers, directors, broadcast execs, and PR execs do the hand wringing.

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anais, love your post, and yes, agree that the kissing scenes between Eric and Ye Seul are fantastic! So real and natural, and yeah, the way he manfully (Jomo would say MANLY) pulls her towards him each time is to-die-for! I compare the kissing here to the kissing in My Princess and remember how awkward those were with the girl frozen like a block of wood, while poor Hand towel tries his best to draw a very unresponsive heroine into his arms.

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Amen!

Plus, this would be the perfect time for her MW character to lapse into a K-drama coma! She shot herself in the head with a blank so she'd be able to sleep her way through a few episodes, right?

Problem solved.

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I thought of that, too, Cynthia! Exactlly. She could just sleep while other people just go in/out of her room, talk around her, cry over her,....the possibilities are endless. Then when it's time to go home, they could just wake her up. Geez, Ryu could even take a warm shower in the attached bathroom while watching over her. Just sayin'.

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And maybe Eric could join him?

Hmmm. I think the drama just took an entirely new (and welcome!) direction!

I'd watch. And replay.
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" They assume I’ll do things that even Korean-Americans and certainly not white Americans would think to presume, primarily because the latter are aware of liability issues in a litigious USA."

I don't even... Just say: " They assume I’ll do things that Americans would not think to think to presume".

I can't even get into what was wrong with the original because the thread doesn't need another fight and because there were too many to list.

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There are cultural differences between all the -Americans. Note that I didn't identify white Americans as THE Americans. And I could have broken down white Americans further into Liberal Jewish Americans, Irish Catholic Americans, and whomever else I've worked with recently. Each person is shaped in some way (but not limited by) their heritage. And, as a Korean American living currently in SoCal, SoCal Korean Americans are WAYYYYY different from Korean Americans elsewhere. Heck, OC Korean Americans are very different from LA Korean Americans.

To identify the hyphenated nature of being an American is not a negative thing. Believing that identifying the hyphen makes the hyphenated somehow less American, eliding that difference, is more problematic in my view. My brain is foggy so I can't remember the precise terminology but isn't it more productive - I'm going to borrow queer studies terminology here, if I can remember its proper use - to queer what's considered the normative identity?

If my original post came across as otherwise, I acknowledge that I'm not at my most articulate and I did struggle with finding the right wording for that post.

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I'm a first generation 'something'-American and I completely understood your original post.

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Thanks. Appreciate it. :)

Oftentimes, I write on DB when I'm totally exhausted. Something to wake me up or keep me up, to ease my brain into work/into sleep. Then, I sometimes venture to articulate very complex ideas and feel a bit overwhelmed by the switch from "OH MY GOD, he's soooo hawwwwwwwt" to "queering the normative."

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I understand what you meant, the prob was the wording. I get ya :-)

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Even the off-screen drama of this drama is extremely dramatic, I'm both in pain & in love haha.
My stance is that, don't think we know enough to blame anyone. I have my suspicions and theories, but condemning people based on partial facts, hearsay, suspicions & theories is one of the worst thing one can do so I won't go there.

I pray that the matter be resolved relatively amicably sometime this week so we get to see quality episodes (as opposed to, rushed, badly edited, or forcibly dragged to fill the unnecessary 18 episode slots) next week onwards =)

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Ok. I haven't read any of the comments, so I'll just address the article and my own bias from working in Korea.

To be honest, from the facts alone (namely, she stated from the outset she wanted a more efficient work schedule, she apparently let it go, she had problems with the PD, and she warned him/her that she wouldn't be coming on the Saturday...) I believe her unprofessionalism is warranted and savors strongly of...assertiveness.

Sounds weird, right? But, I'm foreals. I think her problems with the PD stems from the shooting system, not the other way around, and the PD's attempts to appease her with lies, or at least half-truths.

Of course, I'm biased. I work here in Korea, on a pretty rigorous schedule for a public school, but I take it, because I love my job. What I don't love is the communication barriers, the outright lying to save face, the patriarchal hierarchy that allows superiors to lie and make outrageous demands, and that your "work family" trumps your actual family, to the point where my co-worker sees her newborn baby on weekends if she's lucky. Also, free time doesn't exist for anyone, and it's considered ridiculously selfish to demand a break (someone else must notice how tired you are and demand you rest, don't do it for yourself).

All this affects me peripherally, though; I'm mostly excluded from it because I'm a foreigner, and we're notorious for blithely stomping all over these cultural delicacies and clutching our contracts like they're divine edicts (often obnoxiously, but nonetheless...). When you're Korean, however, what's your excuse? And when you're a Korean who's obviously been abroad and seen people not sleeping on bus benches after a 14 hour workday but in their beds after an eight hour one, you're actually worse off. Caught between two worlds, I guess. It's difficult to adjust to either.

But, those are the normal jobs, not those of the bizarre celebrity economy. It just occurred to me that I probably know more about what actors do here for their jobs than in America. I'm sure Hollywood works hard, but I don't recall it being a regular thing for actors to be worked to exhaustion, to the point where they end up in hospital to recover.

That's pretty fucking serious. For an actor to take heat because she refuses to run her immune system into the ground indicates the perversion of the current live-shooting system, as well as the values of the entire culture, outside of the celebrity sphere. (I'm NOT saying those values are perverted. NO. Rather, I'm saying those values are being taken to a ridiculous extreme.)

I realize she's taking heat because she didn't show up for her shoot both days, but she told the PD, heatedly, she wouldn't be there on one. The PD obviously didn't tell the crew. And clearly somebody thought it'd be easier to lie to her rather than negotiate. She's one person against the PDs and crew, how can she successfully publish her side of it?

I think her mistakes are fighting so strenuously with the PD and being no-show on the Sunday, if she only mentioned no-showing it Saturday.

If she's sacrificing her image (and we all know now what a commodity that is...^^) then it must be bad, right. And I hope, too, that things are on the way to changing...

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thank you for this sensible and insightful post!

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I'm not surprise with HYS's assertiveness because she's grown up in the States.

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Ah! I didn't know that. I figured she MUST have spent time abroad, with those English skillz, and picked up the culture there, too.

That's cool.

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This post was really insightful and lovely. Without even the Han Ye-seul being the issue, I think what you wrote is an insightful and logical portrayal of unreasonable working conditions in some countries.

As someone who is looking forward to working abroad in the near future, I'm glad to have your insight added to my know-how. I'm originally from Russia and if our contract says 6 hours, you can be sure we leave AT 6 hours. No one would ever demand anything more - it's simply "un-logical" in my particular experience.

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Thanks Mia,

Like Laeah pointed out, foreigners here are definitely coming from a different perspective, one that at times is so different it's frankly fascinating to see the conflict at play.

Americans (and Russians? :) ) view business as impersonal and separate from outside aspects of society. At most, you are expected to be dedicated to your company. Your work is a contribution to the health of the corporation. Other companies are your enemies. Company picnics and dinners happen to make the employees feel more...affectionate?...towards their work environment. Business lunches are understood to be about the exchange of commodity. Ensuring employee happiness and a sense of community is seen as a way to make them more dedicated.

Koreans see it this way as well. It's so similar, but also different. You are expected to be grateful to be there. Pleasing the boss is key. The boss is the top dog, he can do whatever he wants. Feel like objecting? Don't. You can complain all you want to friends, but complaints at work should be strictly cute.

Your work is a contribution to society, and if you shirk it, you are disappointing The Country. Koreans are intensely proud of their country, and definitely up on their own history. They are in it together. Whereas, Americans are largely in it for themselves. This is why saving face is so important. You watch out for each other, you work hard, and you respect the elders who've been doing it longer than you.

Like I said, it's not a bad thing. Not at all. But in practice it can be taken to extremes that are simply unreasonable, no matter where you're from or what your perspective is.

So, yeah. :)

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Thanks for your wonderful level-headed insight. Are you perhaps imnopicasso? I know this sounds stalkerish, but the writing tone strikes me as the same.

And if you are her, I love reading your blog. :)

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Hi Tomo,

I wish I could say yes, just to witness your reaction, but sadly, I'd feel too bad for it to be worth it. Dammit.

No, I'm not imnopicasso, but it sounds like I'd enjoy reading her blog, too. Thanks for the heads up!

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Tinyviolin,

Thank you again for the treasure trove of information!

By making my own comment I hope I didn't come off as proposing my side as "logical" or "right" and S. Korea (among many other countries, of course) as "not right" or "strange". It's simply different and both have advantages and disadvantages. I was merely pointing out that to the lens of someone in the different system it looks, naturally so, as a different system. (Not that you misunderstood, nor anyone else, but rather I want to clarify so that there isn't a misunderstanding for future readers.)

It seems perhaps a bit "intense" for a work environment, but on the other hand I admit to being a bit envious as well.

I can imagine that so much bonding and communal effort in the work place would create a bit of a nuclear family of it's own. I can see the appeals of hierchy to a certain extent as well, whether the decisions are all made well I can't vouch for, but it would create a system where everything would be quite clear cut. In a country with a lot of backhanded politics and bribery (a lot) I'm envious of the clearer cut job descriptions and "order" that S. Korea seems to (generally!) have.

I'm not saying those things don't have their own problems, it's just an old case of "grass is greener" - though I think it proves merits are in every system and in every systems "problems" (as worded by some on the forum).

Once again I have to thank you though, I really enjoyed your personal knowledge and experience as well as the time you spent to share them.

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Welcome :)

You didn't come off that way, at all! No worries there.

And you're right, there are merits to every system. When people point out the disadvantages, however, it's easy to forget that.

I think if you came here you'd find it interesting. Well, interesting/ frustrating / inspiring / comical / tiring / confusing / fun, etc....Heh. There's really only so much you can put in words.

Back to the topic, not sure what prompted HYS to leave the country and drop the drama midway through. If it's built up frustration gone to overflowing, I understand it. Those working conditions sounded nightmarish.

Maybe she had a nervous breakdown. Maybe she literally just could not go on. Maybe something major is underlying this that we can only speculate about (likely... ) .

But, by her actions alone, I take back what I said about her being a professional. If she truly just Does Not Care, then more power to her. Unless an explanation is forthcoming, though, she's effectively ended her career.

Bummer.

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I worked as an English teacher in Korea as well. Yes, they make the newer employees do the grunt work. But did you know that the higher employees did that at some point as well? It's all an exchange. Yes, they save face, this is another cultural aspect that is hard for Westerners as a whole to understand. I'm not defending your boss, I don't know him personally.... he could be a jerk. But a lot of times people look at a culture through the lens of their own rather than looking at it through the lens of the specific culture. In that sense, it can be difficult living in Korea for foreigners. I'm not saying you have to adopt the same practices, but you should at least understand it fully before condemning it. Yes, a lot of Koreans are dissatisfied with work and yes, it's brutal, but complaining about it isn't going to change anything until the legislature does something about it.

Korea is pretty much the most competitive country in the world. I'm not supporting it. But I'm just understanding it. If there are serious problems, they should be addressed, but not in this manner.

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But Laeah, the system doesn't allow for other routes. For the past few years, I've been debating working in Korea. However, one of the reasons I've not jumped on it is because expectations will be different for me than for my non-Korean colleagues. It's already different here in California, so much so that my non-Korean colleagues/friends think I'm being hypersensitive but they really can't see it. I don't know if I will be able to stomach half of what Han Ye Seul must have stomached. Last time I was in Korea, when my relatives expected XYZ, I called my mother in tears begging her to intervene to relieve me of those expectations.

Just because certain practices have been a part of some tradition doesn't mean that it's right for them to continue. Just because some of the elders suffered through XYZ doesn't mean that the younger generations ought to. I thought the whole point of trying to make the world a better place is so that the younger generation doesn't have to pay dues so extreme to enjoy life's joys.

Similarly, it's one thing to understand and another to condone. The current industry practice is not right. Someone at some point will pay dearly at the current rate.

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I definitely think there should be changes, but who is the one leading the charge here? Han Ye Seul? I doubt it.

Something needs to be done legislatively.

I assume you are Korean American? I definitely believe it's much harder for KAs in Korea than foreigners. Foreigners get it easy most of the time because we are not expected to meet the cultural requirements (I got praised for knowing how to use chopsticks like every other time I ate out which is a little silly).

I think that a little bit of the "initiation" is not so bad. What I dislike is when the mutual relationship becomes one sided... when the Elder doesn't show love for the Younger or the Younger doesn't show respect for the Elder. If those both coincided truly, I'd have no issues with it. But often one abuses the other. In the workplace, it's usually the one with more power, obviously.

I think it's a delicate balance. But I don't believe that relationship style is innately evil or wrong as some foreigners might. I think it's just a different system. There are bad people and good people of all cultures, I guess, is my point.

Your Non-Korean friends probably just don't have the nunchi to understand. I totally get what you mean having lived there and been surrounded by Koreans every since. :) I've always found that KAs suffer the most because they look Korean on the outside, but are really no more than an American.

I think the "someones" have already paid the price. Look at the suicide rate.

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I hadn't even entertained the possibility of some legislative intervention. That said, I offer what I hope will become an analogous scenario. Some of the gains feminists made were the result not of explicitly feminist intervention but of practically minded self-interest on the part of women not in the least bit sympathetic to feminists. Although hyphenated last names or women keeping their maiden names are seen as particularly feminist gestures, I found that not to be the case in corporate America. Most of the women who were keeping their names or hyphenating were not in the least bit feminist but they already had very full rolodexes (yes, I'm giving out my age) and didn't want to lose clients with a name change. Not motivated by politics but by a capitalist self-interest. Similarly, Han Ye Seul may not intend herself to be the vanguard of change in the K-entertainment industry. She probably just wants some decent sleep. But that's how change oftentimes begins. Or at least I'm hoping so.

If a lawsuit ensues from this debacle, perhaps that lawsuit will be the one that serves as a watershed legal intervention.

How's that for marrying your and my take? :)

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"I do."

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Laeah,

I think you are reading a lot of anger into my post that isn't there. If my tone sounds too aggressive or jacked-up on hatorade, I'm sorry. That's not my intention. Honesty isn't anger.

However, I don't think I'm misunderstanding or relying on my "western" perspective to "condemn" the culture. I've been here long enough, and I have enough friends ~ some of them my colleagues, some of them a generation older than me, and a boyfriend ~ to believe I get it fairly well.

I admire their work ethic. I really do. It puts me to shame. I can't muster half the drive and energy some of my friends have. But I do see that it's often still not enough.

Also, I must have portrayed my job too negatively. I love what I do, most days. I work a lot, but I'm not *expected* to work those hours, unlike my Korean colleagues; I just put in those hours because I feel it's necessary. In other words, I'm bad at efficiency. :/

The example I gave about my co-worker sounds extreme, but the work attitude is so pervasive that it's accepted, rather than balked at. Foreigners are expected to object, but Koreans just have to take it, because they should 'know better'.

The problems should be addressed, but it's also a very sensitive issue, and the way the social hierarchy stands, coupled with the need to make no one uncomfortable, it's impossible to do so without stirring up some serious awkwardness and anger.

Of course, I don't believe Han Ye-seul is the leader in a driving movement to usurp the current system, LOL. But I do believe that these incidences are going to add up, to the point where there'll be enough attention on it to incur change.

I suppose when I post my opinion on a part of the culture I live in, I should also include my overall feelings, no matter how long the post is already. :) I posted in response to the article, so it's unfair to assume this is the entire sum of how I feel about Korean culture. Maybe that's not what you're assuming, but it seems so to me.

I genuinely love it here. Otherwise, I would leave. It's such a complex relationship I have with Korea... :) I can't express it all at once.

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Yeah, it's not a problem. While living in Korea I got really peeved with a lot of foreigners who came to Korea, didn't try to learn any Korean, didn't try to interact with Koreans, would basically treat Koreans like dirt, would act out in public, or criticize it to death without actually TRYING out the culture.

I get a little sensitive about it. I read some stuff that appeared to border that sentiment in your post, which is why I responded, though I know you aren't to the extreme examples I gave above.

It just bothers me, because while Korea does have downsides, I love it to death and I don't understand why those people (not including you) come there if they hate it so much.

Anyway, keep up the good work!

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I understand where you're coming from. Really, really understand it.

I made the mistake of complaining one night, over drinks ~ had a hard day, at least I have people who will understand, right? ~ and being taken aback at the amount of poison spewed. Basically, it was everyone taking turns being a belligerent racist. Loudly. Embarrassingly.

When I tried to say, hey whoa, it's not that bad, I was told to wait and see. I'd get there eventually.

Uh, no thanks.

I mean, I complain about My Ahjumma (landlady) walking into my apartment while I'm dressing, but I understand that she's not doing anything out of the ordinary. So I lock myself in.

It annoys me when an older dude cuts in line to buy cigarettes, meanwhile I'm standing with a lot of crap in my arms, or the taxi man won't let my cat in his car because he has a superstition. But I get that these are small annoyances and not indicative of whether Koreans have souls. (Seriously, I've been trapped in that conversation. Whocomesupwiththisstuff.)

When a boss doesn't pay or tries to cheat the contract, ok, that's big. But it's not Korea doing this to you, it's Boss Man. Who's Korean, yes. There's also a Korean Ministry of Labor, and the opportunity to open a Korean civil case against Boss Man, one of their own kind...

I think, honestly, the problem is people come from their home countries as citizens, to Korea where they are outsiders. Suddenly, they're on the other side, and it bothers them. A whole lot, apparently.

Anyway, yes, I agree with you.

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Thanks for the insight! All I have to say is, Dang! Those kind of hours are harsh.

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Most working Koreans literally do not sleep more than 5 hours MAX from middle school til they retire. Except for a few years if they go to college.

Pretty sad.

That's why they all emigrate.

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Dang, that's even sadder.

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Yup. I was in tears a lot of the time coming home from work because of the poor students.

At my hagwon, they brought in a 5 year old (KOREAN AGE, even). She would burst into tears. She didn't even know Korean, let alone English. We would play games and stuff and I tried to make it as fun as possible for her, but inside I was boiling.

Some of my students would cry when their scores weren't good. These are elementary school kids in an academy until 6-8 at night. High school kids were there all the time till midnight. They would go home to study until like 4am. Repeat for 3 years, basically.

It's ridiculous, but it's necessary in order to get ahead in Korea currently. You must get into a good middle school test into a good high school test into a good university test good enough in English (a language most will never ever use) and then look good, have enough "back", and look good on paper.

Pretty, pretty ridiculous. One of the darker sides to Korea.

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Laeah, thanks for sharing your experiences with us. Really thought-provoking....how far removed from reel life harsh reality is....

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Wow. Thanks for this post. Very insightful. Makes me second guess going to Korea to teach English. Your comment will always be in the back of my head.

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Don't second guess! Heh. But I'm glad to offer some insight. :)

As Laeah also pointed out, it's pretty ridiculous. For Koreans. Foreigners can be subjected to it, too, because hey, this is how it's done and you're here, so...But, largely, foreigners are understood to be lazy and an alien species, which is a perk.

If you're coming to Korea, I would suggest trying to get a public school job. Private academies are typically the bane of the first year teacher, and you could get disillusioned pretty fast. Some have good reps, but be very sure of it, and very careful. It's a gamble.

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Yeah... when I'm done with my Masters I want to go teach at a Public school. haha.

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With your Masters you could even get a university job. I have a couple friends who've gone that route eventually and they love it.

Uni is like the top tier, the cream of the crop, the cherry on the sundae, the...oh, whatever, you get it. :)

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well i must say she has balls standing up for herself.
n im glad to read ur input- because really from music to dramas- korean entertainment industry is crazy- they work their actors/singers to the ground- literally- how many times we heard of them fainting from exhaustion with crazy schedules; too little time to sleep or eat properly.

Korea's system makes each big company a tyrant. There's slave contract and then there's crazy schedules of live shoot that should have been illegal - hello, have they heard of labour's rights? But because all meekly sticks to all this unjust situation and rules - they will be no changes.. at least in the short term i cant imagine positive changes.

I love kdramas n kpop- but its a cruel world out there the artist and actors are facing.

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This is a beautiful post. Thank you, tinyviolin.

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Thank you!

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Nooo so no new ep this week.. =( Well can't blame her if she told them way before they should take actions..she is not a slave after all you know..

This short of this could happen..

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So the conclusion is: they need to fix the SYSTEM.

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2 hours of sleep?
Crazy.
Health first, suing second.

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if lets say HYS did ask for a lighter load from the director and was ignored.. could it be because she was one of the leads? and it would mean cutting eric's time too? mostly anyway?

i heard that they shot the 40% around MW-less scenes.. and they filmed the others first.. i understand that live shooting is a pain and i definitely dont agree.. but i also think about eric.. he was waiting a lot in between and is also tired.. if not more.. from the look on him lately.. plus of course the crew waiting on her and everything was hold. i dont wanna call sides but HYS is being a bit too much really. to say she wouldnt go to the monday shoot (15th) according other sources i read. but i dunno whats going on. but they need to fix this.

dont agree with live shooting indeed so man things happen. but i just feel what about the other cast too... they need to keep healthy as well.

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eh, you're already calling sides. and javabeans has already clarified that the 40% was shot WITH han ye seul.

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We can't really point fingers because we don't know the whole story. I must say though, the off-screen drama is actually more interesting than the drama itself.

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I've been admiring the amount energy of HYS had put into this drama from ep 1 - 10. I wondered how exhausted she must be with all her action moves. I was really enjoying it. She can really act funny & kick ass. I hope they still get to end it well & not just leave it hanging. If she's not coming back to shoot, her part can end like she died when she shot herself thinking the gun blank bullets. Nkorea "kill Myung wol" orders etc...hm maybe?
Anyway I hope it ends well so Eric & Ryu are not left hanging. I will still keep on watching HYS. I like her & she was really doing well in as spy Myung wol.
I'll wait. Meanwhile there are other good dramas to watch while waiting...

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ya it does seem unprofessional on her part regardless of PD or crazy schedule. because all d crew were there on stand by- afraid to go in case she suddenly turns up. hope it'll be resolved soon.

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well after reading others comment, i stand by my earlier comments. Despite agreeing HYS to stand up for herself- i dont think it's the right method- the PD does what he does in every drama. If the system doesnt change i dont think the PD will change. Meanwhile everyone else involve in this drama project suffers from this commotion- at the end of the day- most people wants to avoid trouble and work for that pay to feed their families.

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It's funny. I think if everyone knew the PD's name and face just like we know HYS we would hold him more personally/individually accountable for his actions instead of accepting that he's just part of the system (read: he's not responsible for how he acts).

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I got this from Absolute Shinhwa

Apparently it's a transcript of the crews, commenting on HYS all the way back in July. I don't know what to say, but I don't really believe.

Number 1: This is from July, why didn't those crazy neitzens find out about this?
Number 2: I don't think a crew memeber would say things like this PUBLICLY. She's an actress, and your a crew member, they can fire you....but have to meet her demands. Like getting a new PD.
Number 3: It's just SO LONG! Why would someone say something so detailed.
Number 4: This is just to insane, they would have probably sued her ass, if she was being such a bitch.

Anyways guys read on...it's very interesting. I'm like 10% it true, and 90% not.

"I understand that actresses are stupid, but while we’re shooting Eric says his lines but she won’t do hers a lot of the time; she says she doesn’t want to do things that make her look funny so she won’t say her lines. She came all the way to far away Mungyeong, turned off her manager’s cell phone, and they just left the set together; because of that the other actors/staff had to put up with a really tight schedule and that made everyone tired. They had to go back to Mungyeong to film that scene. She wanted less scenes with her in them because she’s tired and asked instead to extend Eric’s scenes. In the scenes where she has to appear with Eric together she doesn’t show any consideration for Eric; she just goes in to quarrel with the director. Filming for the drama’s plainly going to be mostly all-nighters and the drama will practically be broadcast live, but she says she wants a 5 day workweek and she also wants us to finish up filming for the day everyday at midnight. We have to build up the Myeongwol-Kang Woo relationship and continue the melo story but she makes Eric look stupid because she doesn’t even try to understand what the script is about. All the news came out because of her but the next day she didn’t even look apologetic and she went around proudly. She never wants to do anything that makes her look funny or bad; in the scene where she had to get hit with eggs she treated the stuntman so badly when there was nothing wrong and she made the stuntman film the scene for her. Sidus can’t control her, so in the articles written against Han Yeseul they made Eric look bad too along with her when he’s trying his best. The atmosphere at the set is great when Han Yeseul is not there but when she comes in, it changes; it settles down. Even when we try to tell Han Yeseul’s staff and the production company about this she just acts as she pleases. If she does it one more time I think I’m going to swear directly in her face next time I see her. I’m sorry this is so unorganized, I’m so mad."

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And I also think if this was the case....the scenes would have been so awkward. Like no chemistry between the two leads. But the only reason why many were watching this to begin with was because of the TWO LEADS.

They all seemed very comfortable in the show, that's just me....or maybe there really good at acting?

But still who would take that B.S

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I have a few more points of disbelief but I mean if this were true I guess this whole witchhunt is a nice cold water shower of reality...

1. Didn't she pass around make up or whatever to apologize for the time she was late because she overslept? If she were so demanding and selfish like you'd have to be to act like mentioned above, she wouldn't have to do this.

2. If she did act like this, HOW does she have a job and dramas under her name? If I were a drama PD, I wouldn't want other PDs to hire her. That makes me skeptical of this dramatic behavior.

On a tangent, doesn't this remind anyone else of what Michael Bay said about Megan Fox and consequently she quit Transformers 3 (idr if that was the exact reason)?

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Not exactly, Megan Fox called him Hitler, the producer of the movie Speilberg asked Bay to fire her due to her inappropraiate behaviour

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LOLOLOLLOOL sorry I literally laughed out loud. How did I never hear of this before LOL

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The crew is gossiping/complaining about an actor on a show. This is hearsay and if it's true, it doesn't really tell us anything except that some people on the crew don't like her.

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I just want to say that I'm so so so sorry you didn't choose to recap Protect the boss instead of this one! Why don't you give up on this and take on P the boss, I don't think it's too late....pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Totally. I vote for Protect the Boss.

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live shooting is a common practice in korea ... since when ?

by agreeing to do a drama, i suppose the actors and actresses are already aware of what they're getting themselves into ?

to try and change the system is not going to take an individual effort, more help is required and should be done at an appropriate time say before the drama starts shooting ?

the drama's coming to an end, less than 1 month of filming needs to be done, maybe even less than that ... to suddenly pull the plug now, it's kind of sad for her co-actors.

just read a co-actor's tweet regarding this ... he sounds real tired waiting without knowing what's going to happen next.

no matter how well-planned's a project (in this case the drama), there're always interruptions like weather changes, venue unavailable, storyline change (in this case). it's the whole team (from PD to lighting to actors/actresses) that need to work together to ensure the project/drama is delivered on time.

and when u're not happy with the project (drama)'s personnel, still be professional ... then make sure you never ever work with that person u dislike so much anymore.

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I'm not going to comment on who's right or wrong. I just hope everything is resolved so we can get back to watching SMW. On the negative side for HYS, she just shot herself at the end of the last episode and this could lead to her being eliminated and the storyline taking another turn. Wow! I enjoy her, but definitely am watching for the male leads, so I'm in for the long haul (aka known as Eric and Lee Jin Wook). :)

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Han Ye seul is not a robot or a machine that can work 24/7! Endurance varies from person to person.

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She needs all the sleep she can get to stay pretty! Why is that so hard to understand? am sure y'all won't wanna watch pandas on TV, do ya?

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i just read in Soompi that she left korea to LA??

this is soo fuc*ked up! whatta a bummer this is the only drama that ive been watching and this is what i get?

WOW 0_o

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Yeah, apparently she's off to get married. lol
Sounds like an "illness" to me.

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This scandal has been bugging me the whole day -___- I don't know if it's because I'm a Korean born in Korea and living in the US but even though I see both sides like the promise to viewers and respect for other staffers, I have to side with HYS. Apparently she left a text message to others saying "It's all my fault. Live happily" and left to LA. She wouldn't be leaving if there weren't enough reason to abandon all that money and fame. If she only cared about her public reputation and money (like a diva should) she would just give a scare to the PD and come back. Unfortunately, according to some news articles I've read, her contract with Sidus HQ is ending so they're not putting up much of a fight to defend her and she alone is too weak to fight the giant that KBS is. I think it came down to a fight or flight situation with the media frenzy and witch hunt and she chose the latter but I really don't think we should be making extreme judgments without both sides of the story as Sidus HQ hasn't done such a good job defending so far -__-

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i feel for han ye seul too. i think it must have been very serious for her to leave like this - all the heat's now on her (if it wasn't already) and she didn't even leave an explanation to try and smooth things over, or tell her side of the story.

sigh.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
My fav actress and my fav character both gone NOOOOOOO What's going to happen now????????

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...If she really did leave Korea I hope she has her family and the people who love her around her to support her and take care of her during this difficult time. This makes my stomach turn, but if this is true, then “It’s all my fault. Live happily” sounds like a pre-suicide text...Please stay safe HYS whatever it is that is happening.

I think it's disgusting how some of these management companies don't protect their talent. In the US management companies are almost like lawyers and try to work in the interest of their talent and protect them, but some of these companies in Korea just seem to leave their talent out to dry. Reminds me of the Jay Park issue/"scandal" with 2pm. His management just completely left him out to dry.

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Whatever. If she really cared she wouldn't have let down everyone in the production to run off and get married.

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ok, i think all of us get by now that you don't like han ye seul, but what you just said smacks of inhumanity.
someone expressed concern over what could have been taken as a suicide note (even if it wasn't actually, or doesn't seem as such right now), and you have the gall to say "whatever"?!
i've been really trying hard not to feed your trollishness, but this is a little too much. you just don't say things like that. there's been a little too much suicide going around in south korea in general for ANYone to brush off suicide and normal human concern with just a whatever.
if choi jin shil had left a suicide note, and you'd seen it before she died, would you have brushed it off with just a "whatever"?
bash han ye seul however much as you want; whatever you or i or anyone on the internet says probably isn't going to mean much in the end. but don't play lightly with suicide.
my $0.02.

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Inhumanity for expecting her to show up to her job? Oh Christ.

I'm not saying she should go kill herself here. I don't want her to die. I'm saying she should go to work.

My "whatever" was in regards to the text message she "supposedly" wrote. (Please show me the article?)

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Go to work or AT LEAST try to defend or give an explanation of her actions, instead of running off.

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As an outsider, I'm new to this whole Netizen news and stuff, but even now I'm pulled into the "breaking new". The news feed on my computer keeps going off! Wow, they must work really hard in Korea. I always read about the vigor of working in entertainment, I never knew it was this stressful. I've always been like "how great would it be in the US if we got 2 episodes per week from our favorite shows?" but if it's this difficult and stressful then I can do without it.

I'm not on any one's side (lol, this is really scandalous!) because I don't know what actually happened, but if it's true that she actually came to the US, what do you think will happen to her here? I mean, do you think her acting skills are good enough to get her a job here? Is she not returning to Korea (Some reports say she bought a one-way ticket?)?

Sorry for any typos. I was too hyper to sit down and type properly (:

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I truly dont really know this actress, I think she is beautiful but havent seen her b4,so I dont hate or like her. I think both sides have their fault and problem, but truly look at what is happening, she really lack of responsibility, doesnt care abt the whole staff at all, not only the staff, what abt the audience? other companies who sign advertising contracts with the drama, blah blah .... doesnt spend a second thinking what left behind her behavior..

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I know how wors Live shoot system is but it is also a situation that shows actors reponsibility..Park shin hye attend on the filming set despite her serious accident and injuries Though her drama's rating was low ! I really feel bad for handsome Eric *sigh*

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P.S. i just read Eric new tweet ;he seems so nervous.

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Now I'm curious. Could you maybe translate his tweet? I tried google translation but couldn't make any sense of that ....

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umm Eric did not tweet today. He's stopped tweeting since the 12th. Are you sure it's his?

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Thank you!

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I think what HYS is doing is protesting against the system they are currently following which I think will become the inflection point of the K drama industry to revolve. May be it s about time now. I give thumps up for her to stand up for what she believe. But last time i heard one of Boys Before flowers's cast committed suicide due to sexual harrasment by the director of the production. Not sure which production though.

There are lots of other things behind the curtain in K - entertainment industry that we do not know. From what I see from both events (HYS n suicide actress case), it is really time for them to make a change for a better environment in future. HYS may be is the type of person who does what she is doing now set aside her diva attitude ( if it is true). There are lots of other actors and actress who wish they could have done what ye seul is doing but they don't have guts. At the end of the day actors/ actresses are just human being. Just change it for the betterment of the industry.

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Heh. Now there are rumours that she's left the country and gone to LA. -_-'

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It seems to me that she's really stressed out and depressed. This much pressure can drive anyone to suicide. Yes she was unprofessional but who's going to answer for her life if she couldn't take the pressure anymore? The media? The entertainment industry? The netizens? I feel sorry for her. I love the drama but I'd rather see her healthy and happy than the drama.

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Frankly the live filming on such a tight schedule doesn't make for better drama, just the opposite. I mean 90 % of k-drama start off well then as the show goes on and they get to the point where they pretty much making it as it is shown the drama just fades away and end in a whimper. The actor get paid a set fee no how many hours they have to work. On a two episode a week drama they lucky to get four hours sleep a day seven days a week. If that not bad for your health I do not know what is, then you add the ridiculous safety standard allowed and by the time an actor finished the drama, they normally carrying some sort of untreated injury. I have to agree that there had to be some agreement when she signed up to do this drama, that she would not suffer all the above and then it was ignored once they had her locked into a contract.
Unprofessional...or just time to make a stand?

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Yea, the latest is that she has left Korea for LA. So far, I've been on the fence or rather leaning more toward HYS's side. What is bugging me is the fact that she has remained silent all this while when possibly all of Korea and much of kdrama fans worldwide are condemning her unprofessionalism and tearing her down. If she is being assertive by standing by her contract for reasonable working conditions, she should also have spoken out and defended her position. Someone who is assertive would not stand to be misunderstood, no?

I can't help but wonder if there is more to the story than just contractual issues. Something so damning she would choose to leave the country and guarantee herself an unsalvageable bad reputation not only in Korea but also in the LA K-community where her parents reside, than to speak out and protect her reputation. And to leave a whole production hanging? If she's able to make it so far in such a cut-throat industry, I doubt her work ethics are so unbelieveably bad.

Well, whatever it is, I just hope that the truth will be revealed soon and the rest of the cast and crew can continue to work. Like what some commenters said, they still have families to feed. Even though I'm not condoning what she has done, I worry for her, as we all sadly know too well what a lot of K-celebs in the past have done when they cannot handle the stress. I really hope that HYS will hold up well. May the truth come to light soon!

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I love HYS so I hope things wrok out on her favor!

I will miss this story terribly until it comes back on

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Given that they produce these dramas at a breakneck speed I think it was only a matter of time, granted I was hoping for sooner, that one of the stars would make their concerns known and through that some moderate amount of change could be made for future dramas.

The sad thing about all of this is Han Ye-seul going to be vilified and in most cases put on a dreaded "black list" for the foreseeable future if things don't work themselves out rather quickly.

Just to clarify recall what happen to one of the stars of Painter In The Wind when he asked for, and I think expected if I'm remembering the facts correctly, his back pay from one or more of the broadcast networks and that got him black listed for years (it seems).

Given that everyone who works on a drama/show in general is worked to and often beyond a breaking point it may simply be time for the networks to rethink their format and/or manner of shooting these dramas.

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This whole drama surrounding this drama sounds like a real nightmare. I still can't believe some of the things I've read here. Is it really true she left for Los Angeles? Man, this is messed up. No matter the reasons for Han Ye Seul's quitting this drama, I feel really bad for the other actors, the crew and everyone else who is now left hanging.

I feel especially bad for Eric and Lee Jin Wook - isn't this drama their post-military service comeback project? First Poseidon (in Eric's case) and now all this trouble with Myung Wol the Spy.... Seems he's out of luck this year. T_T

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Well may be this time there s mw 's twin to replace ye sul?.
That Eric will fall madly in love just as much as her twin sister?

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Had she at least hold up her end of the bargain and showed up for the AGREED schedule, whatever the hours were, I can understand her stand about the live shooting & the health issue.

From what I see so far, it's her stance with the PD more so than the live shoot issue. I wonder what's going on between the 2 to cause such bad blood.

Whatever the issues were, stopping the entire production like this isn't the way to go. And now with news of her leaving for the US, how would it solve anything? May be when she's free from Korea, we can hear her side of the story

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