Open Thread #172

January 28, 2011 at 6:54 AM

Happy Friday!!!!!
More work that I can handle but that is a good thing!!!!!
Seul has become my favorite character so far of 2011, My Princess, is so far the top of the crop MP FTW!!!!

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I was reading that some people thought that the "Kiss" scene at the end of chapter seven was not a "Good" one, but what I really like about that scene was that there was no "Music" to enhance the mood, and the kiss was a good one IMHO, it was done not in the spree of the moment, but Seul even when she was drunk she was still in control of the situation is not like he took advantage of the situation since she kiss him first.
But I must say that I am a bit conflicted about kiss, because some body raise the question of whether it is appropriate to kiss some one while one party is drunk and the other is not.
I guess there is a fine line between taking advantage of somebody while that person is intoxicated, but I do not think that our main lead abuse his power when he kiss the Princess, at least it did not appear that way!!!!!

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January 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM

i've watched the kiss scenes so many times now with and w/o music. both works for me! So enchanted w/ this couple, still can't help squeeling with glee each time i see it. hehehe

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Informantxgirl

January 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM

I'd have to agree. :) I also think having the scene be silent helped to keep the viewer focused on the action - reinforced by the extreme close-ups of the leads. Then when they kissed, the camera pulled away, like we were giving them privacy. I thought that was very effective in selling how hot a kiss it was, we can't even look at it too long (though not as hot as the train station one in Coffee House, imho).

That being said, I hate Hae Young this week; no, LOATHE him. Did not know I could have that level of fury at a drama lead. I was completely enraged by his actions, even if I get them, but he made her cry and got her mom to turn against her. That's not cold - that's arctic. I also wished she had clocked him but good, or even nicked him with a carving knife (I'm a bit bloodthirsty, lol). Those little poundings she gave him didn't seem to be enough for the level of harm he inflicted on her. Making me lose my only family? Yeah, even if I stole your fortune, there's no right. I wanted to deck him so bad. I know I will go back to loving him soon, but if I were there...he'd be laid out flat on the ground. Just saying.

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January 28, 2011 at 8:25 AM

Me too :(

I can't wait to see Pilsuk all pretty & confessing to Jason, so excited even though i have a feeling he'll reject her ;(

And i also hope Eunjung will become a bit better by each episode, i don't want her to end up all alone ;(

As for Samdong I don't want him to become deaf, noooooo Cheolteru andweeeeee

Anyway, Dream High & My Princess are making the beginning of 2011 better for me =)

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tapegunslinger

January 28, 2011 at 8:58 AM

Me too, me too! Pil-sook and Jason are my fave couple.

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vanillasalt

January 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM

same here! I think they're my fave couple out of the whole drama. They'd be such a cute married coupel, i think. haha!

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5 x0mi07

January 28, 2011 at 7:06 AM

happy friday everyone! i hope my friday can be just as happy but i've spent the whole day worrying about the egyptian people. i've gone there more than ten times since i was a kid; almost every summer since i was eight. and from everything i saw, even in my grandma's house, i never knew over 50% of the egyptians earned less than 2 USD per day. now the egyptian people are fighting for their freedom and the corrupt govt cut off most of the country's phone, mobile, & internet services to stop the spread of protest. my dad's family lives in alexandria..=,( i can't seem to bring myself to watch mp to calm my nerves. i'm so worried.=( please pray for the safety of the egyptian people!=,( tnx..

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dom

January 28, 2011 at 7:50 AM

oh my god... i just read the news..I can't imagine how hard it is living without any form of communication and freedom. I hope there no more violence..

I hope your family is all well... and I pray for the Egyptian..

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meenuby

January 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM

My prayers are with the Egyptian people and your family. And the Yemenis and Algerian people.

Ever since the Tunisians ousted their president, this collective wave of protest and discontent has continued throughout the Middle East.

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lessaofpern

January 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM

My prayers are with your family and with all the people of Egypt.

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Lenita

January 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM

right there with you!

if any consolation, we had terrible things happened in indonesia, but sometimes the news make it much worse than it really is. hoepfully that's the case here as well. hang in there!

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January 30, 2011 at 6:15 PM

thank you as well.=,)

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6 jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 7:07 AM

Hello everyone!
It is so nice and cozy here on the thread.

I have a K-drama clothes question.

Why why why do they go to bed fully clothed, jeweled and hair still up?

Heh. That WOULD be satisfying.

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YY

January 28, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Her hair looks a lot like the German helmets in WWII

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izzie

January 29, 2011 at 6:29 AM

*scared. looks at lego.*

Lego: Hi! I'm your friend!

*shudders.*

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Josina

January 28, 2011 at 8:21 AM

Hello all,
I've only started posting in the recaps for SG and MP recently, but as my kdrama addiction is escalating it's been great to come here and learn I'm not the only one who is afflicted : )

As for the pyjamas: I think it was only in The Woman Who Still Wants to Marry where I spotted a main character wearing PJs. Can't think of any other instances.

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ck1Oz

January 28, 2011 at 8:34 AM

KHJ never changed out of his checked pajamas for all of the PK special episodes.Yes?

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tapegunslinger

January 28, 2011 at 9:00 AM

In a lot of the daily dramas, I see the newlywed couples wear pajamas. And I think they did in Playful Kiss.

January 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM

That's one thing about Kdrama: it's the male leads who are more likely to look back at themselves in five years time and think, 'was I conscious when I agreed to wear that?'

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annie

January 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM

So true. Although I was pretty close to poking my eyes out at some of Mae Ri's outfits in MSOAN.

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jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Didn't the contemporary audience LOVE his style?

Although, with all that flourescent stuff, we did see a hint of things to come for Joo Won.

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Josina

January 28, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Probably, but that's kind of my point: the clothes all seem achingly contemporary and will date quickly.

Then again, I am more bothered by the hundreds of innocent rodents they had to butcher to dress the cast of SG.

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Brandi

January 28, 2011 at 9:05 AM

WIN!

But I'm more upset with the "Strangled by the Red String" trope in most kdramas. Basically, you have two pretty people together who have NOTHING in common, except for their "love" or whatever for each other. Ok. But what do they talk about when they're not talking about their opposing parents? What?

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8 maria

January 28, 2011 at 7:10 AM

hello, ladies and (very few) gentlemen! (any gentlemen hiding out there?:P )

happy happy friday. although i'm stuck at home writing a draft of my thesis, i still sneak in a little time to indulge my (latest) falling prey to the Second Lead Syndrome (AGAIN!) !!!!!

i love you, Jungwoo!!! even with your Indiana-jones-in-the-city outfits.... all i need is your smile, and my day is totally made!!! :D :D :D

apart from you, however, i must admit, im liking the seol-HY pairing, because i think none of them think it can actually work out, and it makes them very cavalier about revealing their true feelings. like a really twisted version of doing whatever the hell you want because there will be no real-world consequences for your actions. DUN DUN DUN-- can you believe He Young actually TOLD Seol that he was one of the things she was giving up by being a princess? it's so tantamount to actually saying, "you have me. that's not the issue here. YES i like you, and you like me, I KNOW. "!!!! oh, the angst! that line kills me!
i can't wait until they figure out that it CAN happen, and THEN i'm so totally there for the ensuing passive aggressive courtship. ....well, i think that's pretty much where we are now, eh? :P

also-- my heart's kind of confused about rooting for Hyemi-Jingook or Hyemi-Samdong, but i know one thing for sure---- SUSHI AND CHIPMUNK FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
i wonder how her confession will go next week?!?! can't waaaait! is it next week yet??

and REALLY REALLY OT-- but did anyone catch the latest epi of Bones??? THAT LAST LOOK OF BOOTH TO BRENNAN KILLED ME!!!!!! AAAH!!! <3 <3 <3 knew it! .....the days of B<3B are upon us!!!! :D

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January 28, 2011 at 7:14 AM

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Mayounaise

Tess

January 29, 2011 at 1:51 AM

That teacher is srsly psycho. I love Dream High to bits, but I would NOT want to attend. It's a battle zone, with murder attempts left right and centre!!

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leonardswench

January 28, 2011 at 11:26 AM

Okay, here's my plan. Sunday afternoon I'm "free" for a few hours and I WILL figure out the digital camera and get the Taekyung hair on disc before he outgrows the phase ... wait, it's been six months or more, is he going to outgrow it???

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January 28, 2011 at 7:35 AM

that would be Viola. and if I remember it right, the SLS meds are administered via IV.

I only have Joo-Won sanity pills. which reminds me that I'm running out of stock again. can't share. sorry.

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izzie

January 28, 2011 at 7:47 AM

lol. those meds didn't go commercial, I think. cuz no one wanted to take it at the time that it was launched.

@Izzie

Yes, you are right about the antidote to combat the Second Lead Syndrome not going commercial. Initially, we projected enormous returns, but our finance department underestimated the fervency of the fangirls, especially those affected by the JSV or Jae Shin Virus. *carefully Does Not look at Izzie*

They absolutely refused to take their meds, and almost rioted. Who am I kidding? Forget almost, the rioted full scale. Mothers and ahjumas, halmonims and young girls took to the streets, to demonstrate. They refused to go to work or school, and there were fights over conflicting claims of "Mine."

With civilization on the brink of collapse, we regretfuly had to pull our product from the market. *sigh* And we spent so much money on R&D too. :(

@ I Am Not Jomo, Really

What are you implying?! :P

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izzie

January 28, 2011 at 9:02 AM

"carefully Does Not look at Izzie"

rant on
Why do I feel sometimes like I have no control over anything in my life including my POSTING NAME!
/rant off

January 28, 2011 at 8:36 AM

Awww you guys missed me! That is so super sweet! :) *hugs*

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January 28, 2011 at 7:34 AM

Happy Friday Beanie Family! Oh man, all I have to do is survive 6 hours of work today. *sigh* At least it's not a full day. Anyways, haven't started watching any of the 2011 dramas yet, although Dream High is definitely on my to watch list, for now the recaps will do until I'm ready to sit down and have a full on marathon. I might follow Paradise Ranch if there won't be any further recaps because I need to know about those darn kids and whatever the hell happened that caused them to split.

Anyways, I've really gotten myself into trouble with Qualifications of a Man (Q of Men?) because I got hooked and I'm trying not to watch all the episodes I can get my hands on in one go. Like any variety show, it takes getting used to. Once you do, you fall in love with the cast and their oddities. HAHAHA. Sometimes you get tired with how repetitive some episodes are because sometimes you hear the same thing (as in the Choir/Harmony and the Band mission). But in the end, you laugh, you cheer them on, and you even cry for the ups and downs, and the sad goodbyes. Hopefully, With JJ down with Runaway: Plan B, we can see more from him and hopefully he will have a chance to really develop a character for the show, especially since they are one man down (let that be a lesson kids, drugs will ruin you). I will be catching up with Strong Heart soon enough because I hear it is really good, but right now I'm way behind on 1N2D, and it's sad that that show too lost one cast and has had (or will?) have to say good bye to another one of their own. Why is it I've become more of a variety show addict than a drama addict? Because Running Man is also another one I enjoy (thank you isubs for your hard work) and I can't wait until episode 26 is subbed, when they go to manhwa land and dress up. Soooooo cute with Bo Kyung as guest.

Well, off to work. Take care dear Beanies. HWAITING jb and fri!

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Lisa

January 28, 2011 at 11:18 AM

I've also become a kvariety junkie, Ani. Last year I only saw 5 or 6 complete k-dramas (having watched 130+ dramas in the previous 4 years). Instead, i watched all 100+ episodes of Family Outing seasons 1 and 2, plus the shows you mentioned and more.

My favorite new variety program is 100 Out of 100 aka Oh! My School.

Jeez, started on 'East of Eden' days ago. The childhood story was great, Kim Bum also was great. But, when he grew up to be SSH *sigh* everybody seems to act well accept him, lol.

I love his two brothers tho, they acted well. But the story mehhhhh, his mom screamed at her sons all the time. I couldn't connect with SSH and he even got the AWARD!

Phew! gotta rant somewhere. 56eps and I was like fast forward most of the time.

I just realize I have no love for makjang at all, they tend to make tearjerker scene with no reason. -_-!!

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clichique

January 28, 2011 at 10:49 AM

If you're watching My Princess...

SSH does so much better with comedy. He should've gone down the road of comedy years ago. But instead they kept putting him in the super dramatic stuff.

And, yes, I will bring up THE. HEAD. TILT. thing that SSH does to emote, which he did all the time especially in East of Eden, anger and frustration scenes. Yeah. Hate it. Still hate it.

Also, since you reminded me of East of Eden yet again, I am STILL flaming PISSED how they threw away Lee Dahae, this PERFECT PLOT PIECE AND CHARACTER to give way to the STUPID love story between SSH and Lee Yeonhee that I thought was childish bla bla bla I HATED IT.

Sigh.

/Rant

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jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM

I challenge you to go 2 theads without mentioning the head tilt.
Oh! And you can't thesaurusize yourself out of this.
No:
Slope, slant,angle,gradient,incline,tip,lean,pitch

or any other allusions to tilting.
Other examples of taboos:
"Is the room crooked, or is it SSH's head?"
"Someone fix that hat on SSH; its evenness doesn't match his head."

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Josina

January 28, 2011 at 12:05 PM

Bent?

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jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM

also TABOO!

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Josina

January 28, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Vertically-challenged?

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jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 1:17 PM

I am watching you...

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izzie

January 29, 2011 at 6:53 AM

almost... sideways?

bobble-head?

January 29, 2011 at 6:58 AM

it's like a yawn. contagious. I'm tilting my head right now. argh.

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nonski

January 29, 2011 at 5:23 PM

lols....clichiqe did make me notice...and now it;s actually bothering me in every episode...can;t help but look if he really is headtilting....

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samgetang

hahahahahaha! with shower on hand --- very fountainy :-) hahahahaha!

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jomo143

January 30, 2011 at 1:28 PM

samgetang
Just when I thought that the Hand Towel allusions had reached their limits of absurdity, you come up with
The Leaning Towel of Korea.

I believe you have shown me there are no limits.
This makes me very happy indeed.

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samgetang

January 30, 2011 at 6:47 PM

leaning happily, too ;-) delighted to oblige, jomo :-)

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samgetang

January 30, 2011 at 6:50 PM

can we make a monument of him? near the palace, pls? :-)

(sorry, clichique! this is not going according to your plans...)

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leonardswench

January 28, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Ignoring any mention of EoE since my blood pressure WILL stay down today ....

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19 Alex

January 28, 2011 at 7:41 AM

As a relatively new kdrama fan, I have to ask: Is Korean society *really* so extremely prudish when it comes to nakedness, kissing, touching and sex?

Kdramas seem to suggest that a couple is expected to barely hold hands until they're safely married. Sometimes couples that have been together for years seem to do nothing more than give each other a quick peck on the cheek from time to time.

And nakedness is evidently such a huge thing, almost like Victorian England; even divorced women are shocked at seeing a guy's bare chest, or even shoulder - even her own boyfriend's!

Someone who asks for a kiss is immediatelycalled a pervert... in fact pretty much everyone is called a pervert unless they are completely sexless.

Drama convention or actual social ideal??

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January 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM

The last K-movie I watched was Kiss Me Kill Me. Can I just pretend that SamSoon and My Princess are the reality, rather than that?

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clichique

January 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM

First of all, someone mentioned Korean censorship. That is definitely very very strong here, so very little skinship is seen on TV at all. But I don't think the barely hold hands thing is valid anymore, I feel? That's a little extreme.. and I haven't seen dramas imply things like that for a while.....

Second of all, Asian culture is very conservative in nature. You need to understand that this conservative culture has been put in place by Confucian values, etc.

Yes, families put great thought into marriage. In Asian culture, the family is everything. That is why a lot of couples ultimately do not stand in the face of opposing families, because that is just an Asian value or a Confucian value. The divorcee or widow is because it represents that the woman isn't pure - I know, it is rather chauvenistic, but also I feel like in China, being a divorcee or a widow, especially with a child, means that the man himself will not be able to have his own child, you know?

Anyway I'm sort of having a brain fart today so nothing's coming out very coherently today. But this is some of the reason behind this. Asian culture is heavily rooted in Confucian values and that is not going to change even with modernization, etc.

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hookedonmonix

January 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Although, that rule only applies to the main couple in their relationship with each other. It seems that in many dramas (not just Asian dramas) the male is often enjoying a steady stream of women until he meets the lead female, with whom he proceeds with caution. And, of course, he always had a sexual relationship with the ex who he pines over.
I can't speak to the social convention of it, but dramatically speaking there's no tension when everyone gets what they want right away.

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samgetang

January 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM

"...there’s no tension when everyone gets what they want right away."

that's why it is called tension :-) there is a source of stress or sign of struggle...without which there is no drama, anticipation, excitement, reason for being, goal, etc...

if everyone got what they wanted at first episode, then there is no more story to tell.

i remember the quintessential romance novel, pride and prejudice, our lovely liz and brooding darcy...they got to 'fess up only towards the end and they did not even get to kiss (in the latest film adaptation starring hunk matthew and sexy kiera, the kiss was even added only in the US version of the film only as an afterthought ;-)

but this story stood through the test of time, became the yardstick by which all other rom novels are measured and darcy, well he became female-dom's ideal man :-) .

which brings us back to the tension. i think that's why kdramas are hugely popular now. the moment they go the western way of easy-to-get, quick-fix solutions to life...then it would be downhill for them, too.

same applies in real life, i guess. we tire easily on things we did not take much effort to attain or build. beautiful things especially relationships take some time to unfold....we love the waiting time, yeah! :-)

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hookedonmonix

January 30, 2011 at 8:23 PM

"if everyone got what they wanted at first episode, then there is no more story to tell."
-that's what I was trying to say, but not as well. :) I was pointing out that the tension is the story.

The tension is what I like about K-dramas. Some of the (in dramas at least) social conventions mirror P&P era England, and so the stories play out the same. Those "rules" are needed to keep the tension. There's of course the internal conflict keeping a couple apart (where they hate each other, or think they do) and the external conflict, like parental opposition, socioeconomic disparity (the rich can't marry the poor), meddling exes, etc. In a 16+ episode drama, you need a healthy mix of those factors. So.....wait, what am I talking about now?

because this is an open thread.

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22 hester

January 28, 2011 at 7:52 AM

Happy Friday, addicts! :)

So--I need a little help... I totally lost steam on Secret Garden around episode 14 and still haven't finished it.

Now, I am filled with apprehension that all the awesome might be gone, now that the glare from all those sparkles has worn off. :-/

It doesn't help that I always skim through the recaps (because I'm intensely curious but hate spoilers) and Ra-im's tearstained face is so oft present in the episodes to come.

What to do??

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Neimat Ilyas

January 28, 2011 at 8:01 AM

NOOOOO Continue watching!!!! I admit it did get slow right at where you've stopped....or no actually even before that...but just WATCH IT....beyond all those tears theres still a bit a cute and even Humour~! WATCH IT WATCH IT WATCH IT!!!!

If you want you can read the episode that put you to sleep and then watch only the ones that look interesting~!

January 28, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Thanks for the encouragement guys! I'm going to start by watching one episode tonight... fingers crossed that I'll get sucked back in! :)

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Elle-Emme

January 31, 2011 at 3:41 PM

watch it marathon it

you will get swept up again

i did a rewatch too after having given up

I heard they would put Ice in their mouth before shooting a scene so their breath is not as warm as it is...but it doesn't really hold for very long....and besides ICE inside your mouth in that freezing weather is just inhumane!

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Tess

January 29, 2011 at 2:17 AM

This made me smile :) HOW do you notice something like that? Everyone else is stressing over Second Lead Syndrome and you notice that Hye Mi looks a bit cold :P

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K

January 28, 2011 at 8:11 AM

I know....... i prefer FB

: )

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Kristal

January 28, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Just start a facebook fanpage for the site. I'll join fo sho! I actually thought of starting it myself but didn't know if anyone would actually join or the owners of the site would be ok with it.

January 28, 2011 at 8:34 AM

hahaha that crazy~! Oska500D!

maybe the special will fix the problems with the evil mother or something.....or the children get soul switched~!! I dunno =P

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halfmoon

January 28, 2011 at 8:10 AM

I'm currently keeping up with Dream High, My Princess and Paradise Ranch (though I'm still trying to bring myself to watch the second ep after the just so-so start).

And I think I'm addicted to Dream High. Why why why did they have to show the preview for Episode 8 at the end of Episode 7, it's just making me more anxious for it. I'm re-watching clips of the performances from Episode 7, to hopefully successfully keep me from going insane (LOVE THE PIL-SOOK/JASON/JIN-GOOK/BAEKHEE ONE).

January 28, 2011 at 8:33 AM

That line he said confused me as well, i was like "wth"
She's never been his so it's like he was saying "Stop being a princess & we can be lovers" this is not something he could trade or something but i just can't hate him, he's too cute to be evil :D

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jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM

I understood it as HIS issue of wanting her to stop and MAYBE she would be with him. He has never really had her.

The words kinduv slipped out against his will.

Which is why Seul was so shocked after he said it, and he had to do the door lean.

door lean [n. compound] A Kdrama phenomenon which occurs after the lead character admits a supressed truth. The force of the words leaving the body drives the hero back, and he is unable to support himself without the aid of a sold surface.

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MJP

January 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM

I think you are absolutely hilarious!

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Hanami

January 28, 2011 at 11:10 AM

LOL "door lean... A Kdrama phenomenon..." LOL
That was sooo funny!

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Josina

January 29, 2011 at 2:12 PM

I actually ended up on this site because after my third kdrama I thought, 'what's up with those piggybacks?' and I LOVE those cultural guides.

Cool! Im amazed with how the Korean wave has reached out far and wide in all parts of the world. Not surprising though. Been to Korea and had a glimpse of their culture and history. It's steeped in sacrifice and love for their country -- that's why their stories have depth of character, heart and soul... even the fluffy, sweet varieties like MP. You can always get something you can chew your teeth on.

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32 Kender

January 28, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Happy Friday~~~!

I checked out New Gisaeng Story on a whim the other day.. It's interesting, but a bit slow and a bit odd and I really don't know how I feel about it.

Er, higher threshold. Higher tolerance for crap.

I know what I'm saying. Words, I know how to use them! ><

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supah

January 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Whut? I'm not the only one on the planet watching this? Niceness.

I'm liking the show, I'm liking it a lot, but not loving it.

I'm on-board with the couple too. I feel they have chemistry together and adored their little bonding scene over 'Andre'.
I'm actually surprised as to how much I like the actor Sung Hoon. I do see the little nuances and a sensitivity and boy-next-doorness, which oh so subtly sets him apart from evvvery chaebol-type in every Daily-Weekend drama, everrr!

And it's so old-fashioned! The hairpin! Awwww! And he sighed! *clutches heart and dies a little*
I'm also unable to forget the score that plays in the scene he first sees her.
But the moment he veers Kim Min-joon-wards I'm checking out.

I think the veteran actors are great! But a little pissed off that Im Hyuk is playing an... well, Idiot. But maybe I'll grow to love him as I did in other roles.

Also strangely looking forward to Sa-ran meeting mother #3, the head cook.

What did you think of the voulez-voulez chick? Her perpetually glum face is so weird, considering what she gets up to, but she's weird in a totally good way.

Aww, Kim Ho-chang?! <3
He'll always remain Taejunaaah to me, aka. the guy Song Joong-ki kissed -- right on the lips. (O, I haz video evidence.)

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Kender

January 28, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Y'know, I say I don't know how I feel about it, but I've been rewatching scenes all day, and visiting the Soompi thread, and the official site, and watching the trailer again, and editing subs so my buddy xiaoSxin can watch it, and I typed up this long-ish post.. Obviously I like it much more than I'd thought. XD

I like Sung Hoon too, he's pretty. (I'm shallow haha.) I literally squeed myself into a puddle when he was fantasizing about getting Saran's number on the ski slope. He's so suave in his head, it's adorable. And when he and Saran were unable to sleep because they were thinking about each other it was SO CUTE. Also, his hate-hate relationship with poor Andre.. XD

Also! At the sogaeting, she put that barrette on the table because she KNEW Damo would recognize it, and he KNEW she knew he would. And the speed with which he grabbed it is basically proof that he's interested, so even though the girls played dirty and set him up with Rara, both he and Saran know the other is at least a little interested. (And the mild flirting during the drinking game was adorable.)

I foresee conflict coming with Damo's doctor friend though, the one who likes Saran. And obviously Rara's gonna be a brat 'cause she wants Damo and, well, is a brat.

One thing I really wanna know is what the deal is with Mom 3. Moms 1 and 2 I get, but how does Mom 3 fit in? Is she the real birth mother who gave her baby up, and then Mom 2 gave the baby to Mom 1? Was she a surrogate who got unusually attached? Was she Dad 's mistress and gave up her baby to him, only to have him give it to his brother? Then why does Mom 2 care? WHAT IS GOING ON?

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January 28, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Oh, yes, that answers my question exactly. :-) Thank you for the link!

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Alex

January 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Also, thank you for the friendly welcome. :-)

I have seen some dramas in which sex wasn't such a big deal (Kim Sam Soon, Soulmate - though I've only seen some eps of it -, and Dal Ja's Spring).

Lately, there have just been so many odd attacks of "OMG I inadvertently saw a guy's naked shoulder OMG OMG I am shocked!!!" and "how can I get her to (gasp!) touch my hand without seeming like a pervert?" and "we've been a couple for months but if he tries to kiss me I act shocked and call him a pervert".

Initially I just thought the occasional odd prudishness was a kdrama convention, or played for laughs. I guess that's what it is, mostly. :-)

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January 28, 2011 at 9:06 AM

Romance Hunter looks like a great kdrama - are there subs anywhere?

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January 28, 2011 at 8:44 AM

Could I request some spoilers please.Someone recommended the JD Pride.

That is all good except it's all broken links.The one episode I found was ep 11 part 1.

I have no idea what happened.There was a Chinese subbed,audio not synched of a scene where he ?proposed.I don't have a clue as the voices were not in synched with the video.

So why did people like it?So what happened to the couple?

Mysoju,dramasub,dramafever is not working and I'm not in the US so can't get dramafever. or dramacrazy.

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ck1Oz

January 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM

Sorry I meant I can get dramacrazy but that had broken links for ep 11 as well.

JD PRIDE SPOILERS**************

Halu and Aki do get together in the last episode...
I think people like it for its raw energy, for Kimatku(???) charisma and the beautiful chemistry between the leads.......

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January 28, 2011 at 2:32 PM

I LOVE Pride, and I hate hockey. ha. But Kimura Takuya is amazing. I tried re-watching it recently. The broken links of dramacrazy have only been for one segment of each episode (usually the first) until the last ep.

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ck1Oz

January 28, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Thanks for all that.I will look harder for the links.

Epdrama are full of ads and they ask personal details like email etc before proceeding.

Thanks, the acting and chemistry are feedbacks I was looking for.

@Isablehl-wow I love silentregrets.Great site never heard of it before.

Haha...my weekend is now full.

And the best part they have Fated To Love You which I've just started.Thank goodness now I don't have to go to a streaming site now.I am doing figurative cartwheels at the moment to have found this site :-)

I've been having major SG withdrawals and am trying TW and JD because the styles are so different.

Since I'm posting....annyeong questions987.I betcha you're here somewhere.

I've got DH ep 1 uploaded ready for you.Me...as you can tell will be watching TW and JW.LOL.

It's been flat out this week.No?GO when up when 2 of us were doing final edits yesterday and softsubs were being cut.We were like 30 min behing the main subber as well.It felt like a merry go round.
Aish...I felt a wee bit stressed.

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hookedonmonix

January 30, 2011 at 8:26 PM

at least watch the end scene on you tube. You'll have to enter "eng sub" or "english subbed" or you'll get WAY too many irrelevant replies. just sayin'

January 28, 2011 at 8:57 AM

You are too kind. When in episode 8 She tells Seul to "get up. Get UP..." I imagined raking my nails across her face.

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January 28, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Really, I've imagined a dozen ending scenarios for the BOT, and all I really want to happen is for Seol to get both men and the monarchy and the museum and the wealth and the BOT gets ...

her real job back at Mdm. Toussards? OR
her new job at the newly commissioned Korean Aerospace Program and we launch her to Alpha Centauri to see if she survives the trip ...

January 28, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Well, I don't think we'll have to go to arms with the Alpha Centaurians, since there's that small matter of the missing fuel cell and inexplicable "Tennessee fire" in the engine compartment that means the BOT actually gets to be a million bits of nothingness in space for eternity ...

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January 28, 2011 at 3:21 PM

Oooh Nice one! I especially like the "Tenesse Fire" bit. Must never forget Brookeve unnie's method of solving all problems with fire! :P

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jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Today she had a new one:
Giving teenagers weapons seems to be a good option, too.

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January 28, 2011 at 9:19 AM

not recapping paradise ranch ep 2?

even though its rather flawed but the story makes me want to see, at least i want to give it a chance till ep 5, if they still appear adamant on not showing flashbacks and just keep vaguely referencing back to the thing, then i'll give up..

i'm interested to see what happened that rendered the girl to actually be pleased and want to chat up with her ex husband... i just cant come up with a story line that could follow her reaction...

anyway, i dont think the chinese subs help me in understanding the drama at all.

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jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 9:37 AM

I watched it, and was rather confused.

My recap would be something like:
She said this thing that made no sense, so he answered, and then they did this thing that was really confusing, and would never happen, so then, he had to looked SHOCKED and ANGRY.
So she cried and VOWED to get the ranch back.
But he WON'T HELP.

****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****

So she asked the other guy.
But he suddenly became SHOCKED and ANGRY.
So she cried and VOWED to get the ranch back.

So they put up a clotheline with surveying equipment.

****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****

Here is my suitcase, don't tell Grampa the truth.

****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****

Friends again? OK.

Jomo you are on a roll today!

****OH MY GOD! That is the cutest PONY I have ever seen!!****
ROTFLMAO :)

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jomo143

January 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Did you watch the show?
It is the cutest pony I have EVER seen.

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jully moue

January 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM

hahaha, thanks jomo, you made my night.

your recap are hella funny!

anyway, you remind me of the teaser recap that we once had for Bad Guy! (did you watch? I just read the recaps.)

:)

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YY

January 28, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Grampa????? Did you say Grampa????? There's a Grampa in this show????? OMG I am so watching it!!!!!

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January 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Absolutely exhausted..... -dies out-

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January 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM

me too...I despise Fridays!

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January 28, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Hi! Happy Friday! I return to school on Monday. Im excited but at the same time, vacations are over. Less k-drama time. I’m going to be almost all day in school. The good part is that I have a laptop and my school gives me free internet (yay!), and in my free time I can catch up with kdramas, Dramabeans…and homework (believe me, there will be free time, is the way I made my schedule).

Hey Javabeans, this are old news, old old news, but I just discover that Playful Kiss had special episodes. I was watching a clip from Dream High (ok,ok, I was watching the Genie clip for the tenth time) and I don’t know how I ended on a fanvid about the specials. I didn’t watch Playful Kiss, I just read the recaps. The reason why mention it it’s because in one of them he is using the messy perm again! I also think that he looks better with the perm. The perm is a little less messy, but messy at the end. Maybe you already watched it, but just a comment.

Happy weekend!

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January 28, 2011 at 10:40 AM

wow, my conjugation of verbs sucks.

I finished It's OK Daddy's Girl, and it was LOVELY!!!! True,it's more of a family drama, but it was heartwarming and I like how the main characters are smart and kind and realistic and have common sense.

I finished Secret Garden too...I read the recaps of te finale before actually watching it, but that didn't take away from the experience. Although I don't fully like Ra Im, I did like practically everything else. Loved Oska, Taesun, Seul, and of course JooWon!

As for My Princes it is perfect! I love my romantic comedies (as attested by the fact that I've seen My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, Personal Taste, Oh My Lady! , The Man Who Wouldn't Marry, You're Beautiful, etc. etc.)
and this drama fits the bill. Cute couple, nice plot, mostly sunny, but a bit of drama. the acting is actually pretty solid, and I'm sooo gonna keep watching this drama.

As for Dream High, a busy week has kept me from watching it, but drama marathon weekend starts now, and I'm definitely catching up on all the episodes. The drama did NOT appeal to me at first, because it was idol-filled and high-school-themed, but after reading the recaps, I might be missing out on something....

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Okay. Feeling rather drained. Nice for it to be the weekend. Alas!

Anyone watching Taisetsu na whatever oshiete kureta subete bla bla I am mixing all the Japanese together because the title is so freaking long. I have suspicions that psychotic/bipolar girl could be.... a man who had a sex change?! I seriously doubt Shuuji and psychotic girl did anything. And on second thought what if this was all a plot with his brother, the one who spitefully ripped up the wedding invitation?

Onto cheerier things... where are the Chinese wuxia girls? I remember there were some here... :( I started rewatching Count of Mt. Deer (Lu Ding Ji), the 1998 version, for probably the fifth time in my life. Yeah. Still brings me LOLs to this day... LOL.

ALSO. Finally. Australian Open. Sad that Nadal was injured during the game, but totally respect that he played through the entire game (I WAS ROOTING FOR HIM TO WIN!!!). Also... Federer, why did you lose. WHY.

FRUSTRATION. Thank god it's Friday.

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ockoala

January 28, 2011 at 2:53 PM

You calling for me? Chinese wuxia girls. LOL. That's a nice way of putting it - rather than ockoala and mookie span the hell out of OT for 2 months last year spazzing about wuxia dramas.

You're watching the Jordan Chan version of DoMD? Not my favorite. At all.

I'm 100% a 1984 DoMD fangirl - still the best adaptation of a Louis Cha wuxia novel I have ever seen.

Young Tony Leung and Young Andy Lau created the first ever bromance on network television. Every bromance on any drama since then have to bow three times to these two guys.

Wei Xiao Bao had seven wives because he could not be with his true love - Emperor Kangxi. That is my story and I'm sticking to it.

Sometimes when I watch DoMD, I get this urge to pee, because I'm laughing too hard. Ah, good times. :-D

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January 28, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Sorry, got to the image of young Tony Leung and young Andy Lau and had total brain freeze and ovary melt ....

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January 28, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Might want to watch your ovaries and check your brain again after you see this:

http://img3.bbs.163.com/new/20101017/tvb/zt/zty_79/ae827bf63602576f2497db1209b9abd4.jpg

Both men at their utmost youthful peak. Before the hit their middle age prime, back when they were youngsters, but Tony could still out-act anyone in the room.

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clichique

January 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Nooo the gif doesn't work :(

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leonardswench

January 28, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Unnie, it doesn't work!!!!! I want my young hot Tony and Andy!!

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ockoala

January 28, 2011 at 9:32 PM

It didn't work? Bad computer. Bad.

Young Tony and Andy in DoMD 1984

http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/ockoala/Tony%20Leung/andytony1.jpg

Andy was Emperor Kangxi, Tony was Wei Xiaoboa, the world's most irascible scoundrel - and they were BFFs 4evar!

They met up again so infamously in 2000's Infernal Affairs.

IMO, the best movie to come out of HK.

http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/ockoala/Tony%20Leung/tonyandy3.jpg

They chemistry in that last scene on the rooftop was still imcomparable. They are my first and ultimate acting bromance in the entertainment industry.

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ockoala

January 28, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Hhhm, my proof reading ability seems to have evaporated? Sorry for the litter of typos in the post above.

Just wanted to say that in the picture on the lower right hand corner the young Tony/Andy pic, the girl on Tony's left is in fact Carina Lau, now his wifey.

She played one of his 7 wifeys in DoMD. TBH, none of the wifeys had any real chemistry with Tony. He saved it all for Andy. :-P

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clichique

January 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM

LOL that one is a very great bromance version, but I really like Jordan Chan's comedic timing. I like the lots of LOLs this version brings. Plus I think part of it is because I really grew up with the Jordan Chan version.

I will not go into the HORRID version that was the most recent Huang Xiaoming version where I wanted to punch the director because he ruined DoMD for me.

I almost felt like rewatching Smiling Wanderer for probably the fourth time... That book is tied as my favorite with Semi-gods and Demi-gods and both I've watched the adaptations many times.... Maybe I will when I'm feeling more serious. But it seems like right now I'm really up for comedy....

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January 28, 2011 at 4:42 PM

The only redeeming thing about the 2008 Huang Xiaoming version of DoMD (renamed The Royal Tramp in English) was the kids section.

Best kids acting I have ever seen from that little boy playing little Wei Xiaobao. Little Kangxi was alright, but little Xiaobao blew me away. Cute, precocious, and spot on comedic timing and acting.

Everything else was a disaster. Except all 7 wives were actually all pretty, as opposed to a couple pretty ones and the rest are all quite unattractive, which defeats the purpose of him getting 7 hot wives.

Smiling Proud Wanderer is my fave book, and Chow Yun Fat's 1984 version remains my fave adaptation.

I am really torn about Demi-Gods and Semi-devils, because it's a masterful book, but got you get your gut torn out when only two of the three leads gets a happy ending, and the one shafted gets shafted six-ways to Sunday in each portion of the book, I wanted to create a chart for "the million ways to torture and inflict mention and physical anguish on Xiao Feng."

Anyways, enjoy your watch! I do agree that it's easiest to love whichever adaptation you grew up with. Does that mean you also love LoCH 1994 and RoCH 1995 more than its 80s classics?

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January 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM

I do agree that it’s easiest to love whichever adaptation you grew up with. Does that mean you also love LoCH 1994 and RoCH 1995 more than its 80s classics?

(haha hope codes come out right...)

So true. Back to my lifelong fangirling of JinYung. His novels are just sooo out of this world good, ANY adaptation of it is decent and entertaining enough a watch, and pawns all the shiteous scripts they are making dramas out of last decades.

This is quite sad, really.

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January 28, 2011 at 5:00 PM

I dig the nick Chinese wuxia girls and I'll squeeze myself in as one. *wave and hughughug twinnie*

I fear 4 the OTers shivering and humming their Redrum at the thought of me waving my JinYong novels/dramas along with my 'I'm bacckkkkk!' muahahaha XDD

DoMD have just so many genres weaved in I'm not sure if we should label it wuxia tbh. It can very well be the mother of all the HK Gamblers, Gangsters movies. Comedy, roflmao funny. Bromance that beats all bromance [ very off tangent sidenote (because I saw 10 min of it unintentionally last nite) : Dong Yi, so u think King loving some servant girl is EPIC?! how bout King loving platonically his eunuch whom he finds out is not a eunuch and he's not gay, (not) eunuch may assassinate him, spies for his antagonists, they cant both live, yet they LURVE each other more than they love their mothers?!]. Pairings, 7 of them (and many more flings). if that rocks ur boat, we even have a lot of kinky pink stuff if they really do it true to novel. Then political intrigue, court conspiracies....o and wuxia you name it, it's there, marvelously done.

The bromance btn KangXi and WXB is dearest to me fr everything I love in DoMD, because imo that's the core of getting all the wheels spinning throughout the epic and I judged adaptations mostly on that. Needless to say, nth will EVER touch Andy+Tony in DoMD84 (yesyesyes, THE best adaptation of LC novel ever) True, u can see the styrofoam mountains and skies, it's 80s hideous makeup on every face and questionable taste in beauty. Despite it all, it's just the best of the best even as a stand alone drama in terms of writing, directing, acting. (and there's the Leslie theme song!!!! I miss Leslie *sob*)

Jordan Chan is truest to the novel WXB in looks, but he is completely void of that intangible charisma a Tony Leung has which is most crucial in the casting of the character if u r going to put it on a screen. It's not really handsomeness, we've never heard of ppl wanna PS a Tony Leung's nose/chin. I need to be charmed off my socks when he's doing everything a lowly pervie scum will do without much of a conscience yet fully conscious in front of my very eyes. It's more disconcerting to see it, than read about it in the novel, for me.

I do agree DoMD98's slapstick is funny, but I cant in the love of wuxia reduce DoMD to gags. I need to fall in love with WXB like any one of his wifeys so I don't think all of them r nuts and retarded or else I'll throw things through most of the drama. I need that love also to not doubt if KangXi and all the big shots have lobotomies. It's like a Forrest Gump, u need to love THE Forrest Gump to follow it thro. In the case of this slimy sleazy WXB, it's even a much higher obstacle to overcome of coz. JY did that marvelously in the novel, DoMD98, not.

I'd rather watch the Dicky Cheung one for laughs because that one didnt even pretend to be true to anything written in the novel. It's so remote fr it I'm 100% sure I'm watching sth else fr the get go and it works on that level, laughs and all.

And DoMD is truly the JY ode to Hong Kong, his home sweet home. What's so off with the JZJ/HXM one is the complete obliteration of the wry, HK style comedy, those clever dirty play on Cantonese. I'm not sure if the mainland reader even get all that fr the novel, let alone the dour dull ZJZ making yet another of his 'true to paper and ink and treebark' adaptation with no heart and soul.

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ockoala

January 28, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Can I just say WORD.

Or do I need to wuxia-spam OT again with you? I gladly would do that, you know?

But my sister wants me to finish Hot Gimmick so that I can discuss with her.

Seriously, I have to finish a manga for discussion. It's sad, we have no life.

Anyways, been sneak watching LoCH1983 teehee. SO FRAKING GOOD STILL. This is my pimp post of the day.

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January 29, 2011 at 1:45 AM

I second "WORD." I am mainly just rewatching DoMD'98 for laughs since I need major comedy in my life at this point, so that's why I stuck with the '98 version.

Okay, here is a tough question. I know Jin Yong is awesome and everything, but... if you had to choose a least favorite novel, which one would you choose?

I think there are a few that are less developed, i.e. Yuan Yang Dao, etc. that are shorter stories, but I feel like since they are not fully developed enough, I can't be justified to really call it a least favorite since I just can't say that much about it. But... right now my least favorite is leaning towards Shu Jian En Chou Lu (Book & Sword). I think it's because the main character totally kills it for me.

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January 29, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Hot Gimmick is a hot mess. Don't read the last one. Only read the alternate ending that some kind soul wrote, because otherwise you will want to burn the entire set, because really... tell me when you're done reading so I can get in on this conversation.

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January 28, 2011 at 10:03 PM

clichique, are you watching love buffet? I actually like it! Taiwanese dramas can get so annoying with an overly "cute" lead girl who overdoes it on the cute, so much so I want to puke. But this girl is funny, and I like Calvin (I must be the only one cos everybody else seems to be rooting for Aaron). Aaron's so sour he tires me. Calvin's all sunshiny goodness. Ok if you haven't watched it, got 3 words for you: This. You. Forget. (Gosh, writing the 3 words gives me goosebumps...HY! I LOVE YOU!)

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January 29, 2011 at 1:54 AM

Oh.. for some reason I thought it had Rainie Yang and for me, any TW drama with her is a deal breaker (I just cannot deal with her at all... period. And she always chooses characters I can't get behind... well, not always, but still, many of her past characters totally ruined her for me).

BUT turns out I am wrong. Maybe I will watch it. IDK, TW dramas are REALLY, REALLY hit or miss with me. And they definitely overdo the cute. It pisses me off like none other. Oh and their girls almost never have a backbone. Pisses me off more (omg so much rage... I need to take up yoga again). I hate seeing wet lettuces, and I always see them here. ALWAYS.

Read the synopsis... it is exactly like the manga Parfait Tic. Oh, wait, it says it's based off of that. Oh. Big surprise. TW dramas, WHERE IS YOUR CREATIVITY. Oh wait, sorry, I'm watching TW dramas what am I talking about. Wait. Wait. Did they not even change their names?? Like the original manga character Daiya -> Daya. And Ichi -> Ah Yi (which means one or ichi in Japanese).

January 28, 2011 at 11:54 AM

A coupla things.

Every time someone eats on a Show, I want to eat that, too, so I snack more.

All the freaking girls are so freaking skinny, I think to myself
"Wouldn't life be better if I were freaking skinny, too?"

We are at the last few days of January now.. Still no news or rumors of WHAT'S UP??

Javabeans, Girlfriday... have you heard or read anything at all? I've been waiting for this drama since LAST YEAR. The last rumor was SBS for MArch 2011.

Do you think that this drama will get shelved like Birdie Buddy?

yes! concentrate on happy thoughts!!

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