Woooord to ze JB. Nothing concrete is ever given to us. Because of that sense of betrayal, I remember literally throwing my pillow at the TV screen when I saw this ending.

I vote that you were too blinded by Jang Nara's cuteness to ever suppose that she could be so wishy-washy. :P

@ JB, Dahee.

WORD.

@ Samsooki the Deluded

What happened to learning and moving on?! o_O
*shakes head while sighing "ya, ima"*
:P

I think it's ambiguous too, coming from a person who hasn't seen a single minute of the drama. Thanks for all of your great posts though - I enjoyed reading the commentary. I might have missed this, but how did this debate/discussion get started in the first place? :)

Crap.

I want a patented Kim! Rae! Won! hug. :-(

OH so I did see the drama years ago and I did think that YR ended up liking KRW's character more.

I love this series and i have been fan of both KRW and jang nara since this drama. [BUT i couldn't watch wedding i hate the lead male actor dont know y never seen him anywhere else anyhow] I dont remember thinking the ending was unambiguous. I think a girl can feel butterflies for a person and find a soulmate, a partner who will be able to share her life with another. I felt that it was perfectly natural for Song yi to feel that way, for a girl like her who didn't have any serious romantic relationship or any knowledge of it. it would only be weird if she didn't feel butterflies for the perfect prince that you read or see in romance novels or movies. BUt she sticks to her characteristics as straight forward person when she chooses she gives precedence to what she knows and is comfortable with companionship friendship etc with KRW.
{i didn't hve time to re watch it yet. n watched it eons ago..but i remember the happy feelings that the drama gave] Just a quick question: remember your first crush u knw the one that fit all the description of your ideal prince charming, you KNOW U feel as Song yi does. When u see first him again unknowingly u heart skips a beat. Doesn't it? Don't lie

So interesting!

Never thought Samsooki would go to THIS extent to defend the show. *Bows down to your perseverance!*

That aside, I'm all with you Samsooki. That Song Yi actually chose KRW's character over KJW's. Of course it wasn't a straightforward conclusion of SY's feelings, but I certainly FELT that she had more feelings for KRW despite the lingering infatuation she had for KJW's character.

She may not have ended up WITH KRW's character, but there's no denying that she LIKES/LOVES him more. She doesn't have to end up with him for us to know that she loves him.. you just feel it.

@samsooki....man, you better surrender...you will never win an argument with women...haven't you learn that from your wife?...LOL...but I agree with you...I think JN ended up with KRW....and I do like the drama despite it's lightness...what i hate from JN though is her voice...it's too sharp for my liking...

You guys are all too much! I really, truly, was going to go to bed, before midnight for once, but, no, I just had to take a peak, and now it's two hours later. It's been like watching a train wreak! Sorry, Samsooki, if they had ended it with the fountain, I'd agree with you regarding the ending, but the butterflies, etc. made me think the little brat decided she was getting a "do over" or that it really was more fun to keep stringing both guys along. Maybe it was meant to be a joke, but I didn't get it -- too mean. However, I LOVED the debate and all the comments. So glad I wasn't eating or drinking!!!

can we go back to 2010?

Ending? There is only true ending for our lovely Patzzi.

(wait for it . . .wait for it . . . )

PATZZI MUST DIE!!!

in the two guys one girl in K-Drama she normally ends up with the one that needs her the most and more importantly the one she shows her real self to most comfortably. In most as in bright Girl its the rich jerk that needs the girl to get past whatever mind freak he having trouble with and thus grows up and so forth becoming a full adult and better person with his 'soulmate'

Actually both bright Girl and MLP had odd endings really, in bright girl she heads off to the army and what not. and in MLP they give the hint of her willing to share herself between then two men rather than pick one over the other. But I always decided she simply wasn't willing to give up the friendships the three had, to make a romantic choice between the two men. Perhaps she was not ready for 'love' or grown up enough..or perhaps thats me just transferring from her chinese Bratty Princess drama lol. As I said in other thread on this because MLP was so short it is was up to the watcher to fill in the gaps The story very much the bare bones. Perhaps why so many have different views on the drama.

She does do the innocent little girl so well, perhaps too well as she basically only offered like roles, heavily type cast.
I remember her Sena in Wedding so innocent and I was totally shocked that she had a fling when she was younger when she was oversea, because she played that role so well I couldn't believe she had had a physical relationship before. Though after watching if a few times I decided it was just a kiss shared..while the guy was very much a playboy he was also one of those that divide girls into two type one he sleeps with and tosses away and those he puts on a pedestal and dates..ie the ones you take home to show mother. As he remembers her after a three day fling and was serious on seeing her again when they got back, I would say Sena was very much of the second kind for him.

ditto to Belleza's PATZZI MUST DIE!
I really don't care for more of this wishy-washy k-drama...

being sick one day and i missed this whole charade of MLP ending, LOL...
MLP is the first ever KDrama i watched, which was didn't shown on my local tv (and i actualy have to rent the vcd), because my friend (who luckily rent a room just above the vcd rental, so she can watched them for free) suggested it...
it has been years, so i kinda forget the ending, but i remember feeling a little bit confused about who JNR ended with, KJW or KRW...
i need to watch it again one more time to jog my memory...
but i do agree about the Pattzi character you mentioned in your earlier post, as loud and (almost) obnoxious as she was, she is never fake... that was the one thing i like about her character...

Erm..when I watched MLP 7/8 yrs ago, I thought JNR ended up with KRW. I'm glad I did not imagine it, heh :P

I'm not sure if people will ever agree if this ending was gutsy or gutless...

I for one think it was gutsy. It reminded me of all of those dramas and movies where the girl ends up with the "best friend" type of guy, who has always stood by her. Except here, it isn't such an easy decision. It isn't a cookie cutter ending because she hasn't been head over heels for him all this time without realizing it, or anything like that.

She stayed with KRW's character not because she was in love with him, but because her (platonic) relationship with him was more important to her than her (romantic) relationship to KJW's character. In the end, she chose friendship over romance.

I can see how her actions could be viewed as her stringing one or both of the men along (since she knew they loved her), but she was pretty open and straightforward with her feelings (or lack thereof), so I'm not sure that would be totally fair.

lol does kim raewon's character have a name???

edit: i guess kim jaewon's character don't got a name neither lol.

well.... well.....

im with Samsooki.... with his "true love coin", its like what i miss or something we forget the most.... A simple LIFe... A simple Love.. no complication.... no pretenses...

ahmmmm.... what you feel is Happiness (its like the first time you got your own doll/toys). that feeling we usually forget even if that wish do come true.

whatever it is.... Jang Nara acts naturally in her character

And the battle continues...LOL

I've never seen the show and if the drama had ended with this scene as stated above, I think that we could hope that they would end up together... Although even her explanation of choosing him was vague to me: "Song Yi (thinking back to what KJW told her): He told me to choose based on what was most important to me, and so I chose you…whether this is really lurrrve, or whether it is only friendship, or if not both of those, maybe it is some of crazy mix… I really don’t know…

She admits that she isn't sure its love or what it is. I could buy that he's the one(coin) and so what about the butterflies and all that bs but this statement smacks of indecision. She hasn't really made a "love" choice but a comfort choice. What she does know is that he's important to her, therefore, she'd rather to be with KRW(and shoot, I would too!). But does that mean "they" love each other? No. It means he loves her and she likes him and feels comfortable with him. To me she isn't even saying she's choosing him as a partner or that this feeling that she has is better than the butterflies, etc.

If the writers really wanted us to believe that, wouldn't they have made that clear? Wouldn't they have let us know that what she has with him is what she really wants for life, over the standard sweaty palms and giggles? That their relationship is her kind of love?
If the audience was supposed to take this scene and say "Oooh that's love!" Wouldn't Patzzi have said that "I don't know if this is how everyone else does it but this is how we do it and I wouldn't trade that"?

Am I being too optimistic? I just think that if they really wanted the Patzzi to make a definitive choice, and she, being the spunky, honest, tells-what's-on-her-heart gal then there would be no doubt. But instead what it sounds like to me is a bit of fanservice. The ending gives everyone a bit of what they want which equates to nothing much at all.

Sorry Samsooki...but you almost had me :)

ok i got it now. for those who wants JNR end up with KRW, you can follow samsooki to stop and conclude MLP in that fountain scene above. for those who wants to know JNR's real feeling and which boy she will choose, i think you need to watch 'till the end, and probably (or definitely) will have the same conclusion with JB and dahee...

so...as #13-kau said, can we now go back to 2010, please..??

One more post and this debate will have taken up the entire front page of JB's site.

*crosses fingers and hopes someone feels the need to write another post on the subject*

Man, Samsooki, you are persistent!

To give you your due, if the drama had ended at exactly what you mentioned above, then I would've thought, "Oh yeah, so JNR did choose KRW in the end, cool."

....BUT the "one year later" time jump annoyed me to no end, but it added ambiguity to the ending. There was no specific confirmation in the ending that said JNR DID end up with KRW - nowhere in her behaviour (whether with KRW or not) does she show any sign of specific attachment.

EVEN IF she's not the kind to outwardly exhibit affection with a boyfriend, there should have been little hints in the way she acts with him to show that their relationship has moved on to being more than friends - but there ISN'T.

So yeah, WORD to JB and Dahee - I have to agree with them on this one. (I am not dissing the merits of the drama - it was, still, an enjoyable watch, but not, I think the best that K-drama has to offer.)

I just want to say I enjoyed this mini-recap. I love Kim Rae Won. He was the first Hallyu wave actor I fell in love with. I didn't even care about Yon-sama.

Samsooki I am almost convinced, but can't get that after 1 year scene from my head when Patzzi had both the men swung in her arms. I still don't get that. Sorry Samsooki i love reading your defense but i will still stick with Dahee and Javabeans explanation of bizarre MLP ending.

when annoyingly dumb=nice/honest/cute/still MIGHTYCUTE= instead of having one thumbelina in your pocket, u have TWO; and if u did not fall in madlove with him one whole yr after THAT hug...

all females can automatically kill u off coz nth screams 'I'm a dumb evil patzzi' more.... all we're asking, free up one of those K!X!W!, would ya?! and she won't and still 'MIGHTYCUTE' hence PATZZI!....MUST!....DIE!

AW. that's what i thought too! SYMBOLISM! ok... and a little of hints by Jang Nara as well. heh. i still like this as one of my first dramas cos it wasnt too intense and it doesnt really bring me on a emotional rollercoaster ride... hehe. watched this drama when i was 12.

Geee...it seems that you guys are really having a great life as compared to those poor souls in Haiti. What's the point of discussing something which is so old and outdated. Can't you all do something more constructive? Wake up guys and gals, don't waste so much time discussing about k-drama.

So long friends, this is my last posting in Dramabeans. Am going for a long retreat in the Himalaya....bye bye,,,,,

Eeeek! I've missed so much of the action!
I kind of found both the rebuttals to be completely weightless, sorry JB and DH! *ducks*

Let's make it clear, Song Yi totally chose Kim RAE Won!
You simply had to pay a little attention to the drama to know it was all about him all along too.

The drama opens up with SY, HW and KRW all as wee kids, SY takes a shining to KRW but HW manages to manipulate him right there and I think that's where the Patzzi - Kongzzi rivalry ultimately began - over KRW!
When the three reunite as adults later on, SY is still smitten, but seeing how HW makes a beeline for him, she dejectedly sighs to herself about how handsome he still is.
Their relationship develops over the length of the drama and you'd have to be blind not to see that he's the one she'll end up with. NOT that it's predictable or anything.

KJW's character was in the drama simply as a revenge tool to put some ants in HW's pants, seeing how anxious she is to lure him into her trap, but he's probably the only person completely immune to her charms. Haarr haarr!

The ending was just KJW dropping in to say, hey, ''no hard feelings, we is still tight''. Aka. The end means hardly anything, have to pay attention to the drama as a whole and its dialogue - the dialogue was as blatant as it gets, as per the recap.

The ending was really funny. ''psssh... never knew she was so big-headed!'

On another note, what millionaire? Who cares!
Shrek's Puss in Boots has nothing on KRW's wide eyed look, so haunting, especially in MLP. Melt-melt. Gorgeous guy!

@5 - langdon813
''I want a patented Kim! Rae! Won! hug.''

Me too! Me too!

it might be an ambiguous ending but go samsooki! go go!

What happened to the episode recaps of the most recent episodes of Pasta? I don't care one bit about Jang Nara, just want my pasta fix!

actually, i'm waiting for ep.4 pasta's review...

i didn't watch My Love Patzzi, but the screen shots that Samsooki made of Jang Nara more than proved javabeans and dahee's point about her ridiculous acting. LOL. those facial expressions are just ... way too much to take seriously.

I did enjoy my love pratzzi but I was also disappointed with the ending......I watch it because of KRW....hehe...I dont know Jang Na Ra then. Shes cute but her expression can sometimes be really overacting......

But now I am waiting for the Pasta recap. Lets go forward.....

If I was JNR character I would choose KJW character because their couple and the story of their love was more convincing and logic than KRW and JNR. I don't know but I always think JNR feel pity for KRW character

You three are bonkers. In an adorable way of course! Now there'll be a huge rush of people trying to watch My Love Patzzi. The statistics will go off the chart. Sites like Viiki and mysoju will be scratching their heads going wth why is everyone suddenly watching this has-been drama? Sudden demand will create an internet buzz and MLP will be touted as a Revival Mania Drama. The network will show reruns. JNR will emerge from obscurity to tour Asia...

Me, I'm not falling for it. I'm suspicious of any recommendation from someone professionally trained to argue either side of a case. ;-) (Hey! I sympathise! This must be a hundred time more fun than negotiating your 87th syndicated loan agreement (or whatever).) It also seems to me that this show is not bearing up the weight of analysis that's being heaped on it. And, finally, those screencaps of JNR *animated* would bust my annoyance-meter. Ok, all right, I may take a peek at ep 1, because I'm incurably curious. But no more. No more.

to do with Jang Nara cuteness, it is real, simple as that she the one actress who doesn't have to act cute simply because she is. Indeed if anything she so oozes the cuteness she has to rein it in if anything.
Indeed the one role where she really acted cute to achieve mega cuteness had to be her Chinese Bratty Princess and even the the lead actor said she was more cute in person than one could ever show on film.
Of course I like cute things, I like Ariel Lin and Rainie Jang to as well as kittens so ..lol I am a hopeless case.
All I can say for a girl that many say has no looks no body shape can not act has a weak singing voice, and doesn't have a big production company promoting and backing her, why has she done so well and lasted so long in a very mean and cold industry not one but two countries as well as most of Asia?

Oh wow, aside from whether My Love Patzzi was a good drama or not, I never knew that the ending for it was up for much debate like this. I agree w/ you, Samsooki. Jang Nara definitely chooses Kim Rae Won at the end.

Yeah...Jang Nara chose to stay with KRW... ..I'm with the deluded Samsooki on that part , but I totally agree with the almighty tyrants ,Javabeans and Dahee ,on MLP being a lower than mediocre drama.

Lord, this is fun! I love that this old drama has created so much passion. Can you guys find another show which you disagree passionately and argue about that next?

Samsooki, while I admire your perseverance, you can't just declare that the hug is The End when there's a whole other "One Year Later" bit that follows. It's like Phoebe's mother turning off Old Yeller right before the poor dog gets shot. You're concentrating on the happy sweet part, rather than the traumatizing (okay, maybe only upsetting) scenes to come.

It's my opinion that the drama's ending is MORE disappointing if you believe that Jang Nara chose KRW during the fountain scene... because we then flash forward a year later and we don't get any confirmation that they are truly together and happy. We get Jang Nara and KRW bickering (which isn't all that bad if you pretend that Jang Nara is getting dewy eyed over KJW to make KRW jealous) which then gets interrupted by KJW and that's the end to Jang Nara/KRW solo interaction. It's a happy three-some from that point on... and frankly, happy threesome's are never a satisfying conclusion to romantic love triangles.

Now, I understand the interpretation that those happy threesome bits are to prove that they are all still friends despite what happened. But stuff like that only works when it's clear that the couple are... well, a couple. There's no signs romantic affection between Jand Nara and KJW. No affectionate gestures. No long looks between the two. Nothing, absolutely nothing to demonstrate that these two have been in a year long romance. Trust me, I live for stuff like that in my dramas. A little goes a long way for me and it doesn't have to be traditional at all. (Otherwise I wouldn't get such a kick out of Mi-nyeo and Tae-kyung's romance or Jung-in and Hyun-soo's courtship.) The end of MLP didn't even give me a shred of romantic interaction in the flash forward, forever dooming it in my mind as a sub-par drama.

I remember being bummed that Song Yi went for the nobody (I wasn't aware of KRW then, I only realized his heavenly existence in Attic Cat)... Even though most people think it's a waste of time now, but a LOT of people didn't think so a few years back. And I was a major Kim Jae Won fan before. I even watched My 19 Year Old Sister-in-law for him but ended liking Yoon Kye Sang instead... XD

She may or may not love him romantically, but I think he's her security blanket.

JB

Er, did you just change your drama rating for MLP? It rates... 7/7... the same as Hong Gil Dong?! I mean, I'm all for world peace and all that, but does appeasement have to go that far?

I think I like the *idea* of this drama. Or several ideas of this drama.

I like the idea that an evil main character is loveable on her own merits. (Unfortunately, they pretty much shot themselves in the foot on that one.) Most of us have met genuinely good people that just drive us CRAZY. The second lead didn't need to be a scheming monster - she just needed to be so treacly and limp that we could despise her vicariously through the eyes of the main character.

I like the idea that there's a main character out there who is open and honest - but only if that doesn't is a choice that she's making, or if it actually has some negative consequences above and beyond having a pair of guys fall in love with her near instantly.

I like the idea that the main character can see/understand things about the evil character that no one else can, but if this is promptly subverted, all the effect is gone.

I like the idea of subverting a romance and looking at different kinds of love. And, uh, I gotta say, there's a scene of male bonding on a bench that might suggest *one* option they could look at . . .

What I can't get behind is a main character who is:
a) so dumb and/or murderous that she doesn't realize that fooling with large mechanical devices with engines is dangerous
b) so dumb and/or murderous that she throws *ROCKS* at someone's *HEAD* - seriously, I know this is a comedy, but couldn't she have repeatedly tricked him into the garbage chute instead or something?
c) so dumb and/or masochistic that she continues to hang out with the least charismatic evil character in all k-drama history (seriously, honey, get some new friends and a different roommate, okay?)
and possibly
d) so clueless and/or sadistic that she either strings along both her love interests or, only a year later, jokes cruelly about their history, raking open what must be pretty tender wounds
and
e) none of this is problematic for pretty much ANYONE in the drama.

I don't find the actress totally annoying, but her character makes me insane. Also, negative bonus points for mysterious diseases.

Can anyone explain to me why the officeworkers in this drama stay in the dorms? I get why one might want some staff on the premises at all times, but the promotions/marketing/engineering (???) team?

Thank you Javabeans, Samsooki and Dahee Fanel for such a fun, witty and hilarious debate. You guys are AWESOME!

Thank you so much for brightening up my gloomy Wednesday! :D