Yeah…just a bit of snark on my end towards hipsters (which is ridiculous, because I myself can have been known very hipster tendencies). Also, all my New York friends now live in Brooklyn…
I love that despite everything between them Han-gyul can still recognize Chan-young’s strengths. I think he’d be a wonderful mentor and teacher for him.
16 episodes is not enough. There is so much more potential stories to explore of their past and their future, and so many interesting characters. Scenes didn’t feel like fillers T____T
I have fulfilled my duty as a daughter and had a delicious dinner with my mother, so I can now proceed in peace to finish up The Liar and His Lover. Onward!
OK, before I start in on the final two episodes I just wanted to say a few things about CEO Yoo, who I find to be an incredibly interesting and complex character despite how little story is actually devoted to her. In many ways she connects all the threads of the various plots together.
I’ll start by talking about her as a businesswoman and CEO. I love that she is in this incredible position of power. I love that she looks as badass as she acts, and she takes no s*** from anyone. She is also comfortable calling out the men around her when she thinks they are making mistakes or generally being asses. We mostly see this with Jin-hyuk (for obvious reasons) but she also does this with In-woo and the producer who stole his music. She is not happy that In-woo let himself get screwed in the past, though she is also smart enough to realize that she cannot force him to do anything he doesn’t want to. She knows where her role as CEO ends and her role as friend starts. She is the same with Jin-hyuk, whose ability to spot talent she respects, but whose ability to manage talent she is starting to realize has been compromised.
Even if I don’t agree with why she wants to break up MUSH&Co., I can understand and even respect her reasons for wanting to do so. I see why she immediately saw Han-gyul as the one who should write a song for So-rim. She is perceptive and sharp when it comes to her work, and it shows. She only makes assumptions because she is not on hand every single day at SOLE N.
Finally, I want to talk about her style. As anyone who has followed along with me on this little adventure knows, I ADORE her style. It’s impeccable, badass, feminine, strong, and perfect. I love that she never makes the people she deals with forget that she is a woman – she always has jewelry on and she often wears very feminine colors. But at the same time she chooses materials and cuts that are slightly masculine, and which place her firmly in a man’s world while keeping her a woman. Leather shirt with rhinestone and spike necklace, a pinstripe suit in boxy but tailored cuts, structured blazers and shirtdresses that are figure defining without being clinging. It’s apt that the metaphor she and In-woo use to talk over work are her heels, because they allow her to be female and walk in a man’s world, but they also represent the constant pain she has to fight because she is underestimated. Her father underestimates her, Jin-hyuk disrespects her in his mishandling of the label, even In-woo distrusts (to an extent) her ability to right past wrongs. But none of this weighs on her, and she keeps moving forward and sticks to her convictions instead of focusing on a misstep (or a broken heel).
Slow clap… I love how “antagonists” like Chanyoung, Jinhyuk, Yoona, CEO Yoo in Liar are written. They are not really villains, even if they pose obstacles, because they are not evil, or devoid of feelings or their own set of maybe different but understandable thoughts and motivations, which, btw, are oftentimes motivations we can root behind or at least respect, even if we disgaree with their methods. Even the outright villain Sejung’s behavior didn’t feel unfamiliar, albeit still detestable and despicable. It was something we or someone we knew could have felt in our impulsive and mercurial youth, even had they not acted on those jealous impulse.
Very Nice. I do think she has a major “flaw,” which is her tendency to expect others to discard their feelings and unease as easily as she does. She expect cold professionalism from them as a sign of maturity, but maybe her definition of what’s mature and what should be prioritized is off and not always right for them.
I’d actually argue that she doesn’t expect this of others, despite the fact that she herself practices it. Instead I’d argue that she holds others to the same high standards of professionalism that she herself practices. The difference being that for her, coldness and disengaging works, but others can still maintain high standards without being disengaged. I think she expects her artists to be emotional, but she doesn’t expect those who manage them to be reckless the way Jin-hyuk has been. She knows he is emotionally invested in the music, but I don’t think she expected him to let this mess spiral the way it did. And it did that because he didn’t do the work required of him, which was to nurture those boys.
I love that this show has moved into drama in the bands and the pressure they face rather than focusing on relationship drama. As a result we get to see our couples support each other and grow.
And how much do I love it that “love” is just almost a supporting character in this drama, and that it manages to avoid the temptation to focus on it. Not as easy to do as it sounds.
Oh, the feels! I totally thought that this would be a good clip to show high school kids on how to talk to someone if you think they are suicidal. What a great conversation. Full of support, no judgement.
Same, but I also love that his character got this wonderful little story right at the end. It sheds so much light on the Crude Play dynamic and Han-gyul.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 8:44 PM
OK, but, like where in Brooklyn is the open mic Dad’s about to attend at? And do they have fair trade locally roasted coffee?
(I joke, but only a little. Because, really?)
beodimel
August 26, 2017 at 9:14 PM
Sorry, I don’t get the joke… American?
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 9:17 PM
Yeah…just a bit of snark on my end towards hipsters (which is ridiculous, because I myself can have been known very hipster tendencies). Also, all my New York friends now live in Brooklyn…
beodimel
August 26, 2017 at 9:22 PM
Ah, ok. I still don’t understand the ref, but hipsters I get XD
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 9:34 PM
Ha, no worries, my jokes aren’t necessarily gonna land with everyone. It’s all good. 😉
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 8:22 PM
Love these bbys. I feel like I’m saying that a lot, but y’all can get used to it.
beodimel
August 26, 2017 at 9:15 PM
There were a lot of lovely moment this episode. Was the rooftop moment ep 15 or 16 again?
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 9:18 PM
15, haven’t started 16 yet. Probably will in a little while.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 8:15 PM
I kinda feel like the writer just remembered \”Oh yeah, Yoo-na and Jin-hyuk were supposed to be a thing. Here are a few scenes for that.\”
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 8:12 PM
Someone should’ve told past Jin-hyuk this look wasn’t working for him.
(Also, I love his early and earnest enthusiasm for the music for its own sake.)
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 8:07 PM
Seriously, GOALS. I love a good menswear inspired top with feminine accents. Also, that skirt looks like it may be Chanel? Love me some Kaiser Karl.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 8:01 PM
Sneaky sneakers sneaking. I love these guys.
Marina
August 26, 2017 at 8:05 PM
CY is not human.
chingu
August 26, 2017 at 10:03 PM
Damn. How does that guy on the right not fall back?
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 11:51 PM
Really good abs
chingu
August 27, 2017 at 12:02 AM
*rubs my belly* I see.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:57 PM
Love this.
Marina
August 26, 2017 at 7:58 PM
Baby changed his definition of “perfect music”
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:49 PM
I just love that they can laugh together, at least a little, for now.
Marina
August 26, 2017 at 7:59 PM
Like JW said, it’s when SR smiles that people are happy, which means when around her, no one can get mad. Hee.
beodimel
August 26, 2017 at 9:16 PM
Nbd wants to upset Sorimmie.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:47 PM
I love that despite everything between them Han-gyul can still recognize Chan-young’s strengths. I think he’d be a wonderful mentor and teacher for him.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:40 PM
I really wish we’d had a chance to see more of these two together. I think it’s a great dynamic which should have been explored more.
Marina
August 26, 2017 at 8:01 PM
16 episodes is not enough. There is so much more potential stories to explore of their past and their future, and so many interesting characters. Scenes didn’t feel like fillers T____T
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:35 PM
These two are nauseatingly cute.
Marina
August 26, 2017 at 8:01 PM
I’ll be honest. As nauseating as that, I want to be Sorim so bad and receive a kiss like that. *sigh*
beodimel
August 26, 2017 at 9:17 PM
But juuuuuust the right amount to make us grin like no tomorrow.
zgs1994
August 27, 2017 at 6:06 AM
They’re so pure. <3
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:31 PM
I’M DYING.
Chan-young is all of us.
bananapurge
August 26, 2017 at 7:33 PM
kjdsk;ajfd;fkjad;
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:27 PM
Aww, bby, you’re cute.
But you’re 100% still a puppy.
bananapurge
August 26, 2017 at 7:34 PM
Poor puppy’s pretense at maturity lasted for about 10 seconds before going back to his usual act of puppy jealousy.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:23 PM
What? I’m not crying…These aren’t tears…Whatever…Shut up…No, you’re stupid
(I love that So-rom comforted Han-gyul the same way he comforted In-ho by reminding him he is important and loved)
bananapurge
August 26, 2017 at 7:35 PM
the quiet moments with his mom and the hands…
Sorim gives the best hugs.
zgs1994
August 27, 2017 at 6:07 AM
My fave scene! The way he just crumbles into her arms and she holds him together! Augh, I just simply love these two! <3
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:09 PM
I have fulfilled my duty as a daughter and had a delicious dinner with my mother, so I can now proceed in peace to finish up The Liar and His Lover. Onward!
Marina
August 26, 2017 at 7:57 PM
OH. MAH. GADDDD. I CANT WITH THE LIAR PUPPIES. WHY SO CUTE T_________T
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 7:08 PM
OK, before I start in on the final two episodes I just wanted to say a few things about CEO Yoo, who I find to be an incredibly interesting and complex character despite how little story is actually devoted to her. In many ways she connects all the threads of the various plots together.
I’ll start by talking about her as a businesswoman and CEO. I love that she is in this incredible position of power. I love that she looks as badass as she acts, and she takes no s*** from anyone. She is also comfortable calling out the men around her when she thinks they are making mistakes or generally being asses. We mostly see this with Jin-hyuk (for obvious reasons) but she also does this with In-woo and the producer who stole his music. She is not happy that In-woo let himself get screwed in the past, though she is also smart enough to realize that she cannot force him to do anything he doesn’t want to. She knows where her role as CEO ends and her role as friend starts. She is the same with Jin-hyuk, whose ability to spot talent she respects, but whose ability to manage talent she is starting to realize has been compromised.
Even if I don’t agree with why she wants to break up MUSH&Co., I can understand and even respect her reasons for wanting to do so. I see why she immediately saw Han-gyul as the one who should write a song for So-rim. She is perceptive and sharp when it comes to her work, and it shows. She only makes assumptions because she is not on hand every single day at SOLE N.
Finally, I want to talk about her style. As anyone who has followed along with me on this little adventure knows, I ADORE her style. It’s impeccable, badass, feminine, strong, and perfect. I love that she never makes the people she deals with forget that she is a woman – she always has jewelry on and she often wears very feminine colors. But at the same time she chooses materials and cuts that are slightly masculine, and which place her firmly in a man’s world while keeping her a woman. Leather shirt with rhinestone and spike necklace, a pinstripe suit in boxy but tailored cuts, structured blazers and shirtdresses that are figure defining without being clinging. It’s apt that the metaphor she and In-woo use to talk over work are her heels, because they allow her to be female and walk in a man’s world, but they also represent the constant pain she has to fight because she is underestimated. Her father underestimates her, Jin-hyuk disrespects her in his mishandling of the label, even In-woo distrusts (to an extent) her ability to right past wrongs. But none of this weighs on her, and she keeps moving forward and sticks to her convictions instead of focusing on a misstep (or a broken heel).
bananapurge
August 26, 2017 at 7:32 PM
Slow clap… I love how “antagonists” like Chanyoung, Jinhyuk, Yoona, CEO Yoo in Liar are written. They are not really villains, even if they pose obstacles, because they are not evil, or devoid of feelings or their own set of maybe different but understandable thoughts and motivations, which, btw, are oftentimes motivations we can root behind or at least respect, even if we disgaree with their methods. Even the outright villain Sejung’s behavior didn’t feel unfamiliar, albeit still detestable and despicable. It was something we or someone we knew could have felt in our impulsive and mercurial youth, even had they not acted on those jealous impulse.
Marina
August 26, 2017 at 8:03 PM
Bravo, brava. I loved the segment on her clothes. I wished her stylist could read this and see that a connoisseur appreciated her work. 😉
SnarkyJellyfish
August 27, 2017 at 10:26 AM
I wish her stylist could read it and send me some of these clothes!
beodimel
August 26, 2017 at 9:21 PM
Very Nice. I do think she has a major “flaw,” which is her tendency to expect others to discard their feelings and unease as easily as she does. She expect cold professionalism from them as a sign of maturity, but maybe her definition of what’s mature and what should be prioritized is off and not always right for them.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 9:32 PM
I’d actually argue that she doesn’t expect this of others, despite the fact that she herself practices it. Instead I’d argue that she holds others to the same high standards of professionalism that she herself practices. The difference being that for her, coldness and disengaging works, but others can still maintain high standards without being disengaged. I think she expects her artists to be emotional, but she doesn’t expect those who manage them to be reckless the way Jin-hyuk has been. She knows he is emotionally invested in the music, but I don’t think she expected him to let this mess spiral the way it did. And it did that because he didn’t do the work required of him, which was to nurture those boys.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 2:30 PM
I love that this show has moved into drama in the bands and the pressure they face rather than focusing on relationship drama. As a result we get to see our couples support each other and grow.
loa82
August 26, 2017 at 2:54 PM
Exactly, this drama has so much more than surface level, so many layers, and executed well and nicely too.
loa82
August 26, 2017 at 2:55 PM
And how much do I love it that “love” is just almost a supporting character in this drama, and that it manages to avoid the temptation to focus on it. Not as easy to do as it sounds.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 2:26 PM
These two are breaking my heart.
Mrs. and Mr. Clarewalt joint account
August 26, 2017 at 5:49 PM
What matters is that their pain comes from caring about each other and worrying for the other. It’s beautiful.
Ally
August 26, 2017 at 6:58 PM
Oh, the feels! I totally thought that this would be a good clip to show high school kids on how to talk to someone if you think they are suicidal. What a great conversation. Full of support, no judgement.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 2:15 PM
Oh s***, sleeping pills In-ho? That can\’t end well.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 2:10 PM
I love these boys.
loa82
August 26, 2017 at 2:53 PM
It breaks my heart that Inho used to be the positive one who (literally) pushed Hangyul to submit his song and got them signed.
SnarkyJellyfish
August 26, 2017 at 3:03 PM
Same, but I also love that his character got this wonderful little story right at the end. It sheds so much light on the Crude Play dynamic and Han-gyul.