Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People: Episode 5
by dramallama
With Gil-dong’s childhood behind us, we’re introduced to the simplicity of his adulthood. While Amogae was the dark, morally-compromised hero, Gil-dong seems to be the exact opposite: simple, dorky, and quite fearful. It’s an anticlimactic introduction to our hero but in the best way because Gil-dong is just an adorable little boy in a grown man’s body. He’s got plenty of growth to endure in the coming days, and we’ve got plenty of episodes ahead of us to watch it unfold.
EPISODE 5 RECAP
As Gil-hyun makes fake silver taels in the forge, his sister EORINI approaches him with a bouquet of field grass and asks when Gil-dong orabeoni (a ye olde word for oppa) will return.
Now much older, Amogae looks over his flourishing village and thinks to himself: “I didn’t die, and I survived. My children didn’t die. They survived as well.”
We flashback to the time when Amogae waved to his crying children on top of the hill, while on his way to trade his rotting goods. He had promised that he would bring back scholarly Chinese texts for Gil-hyun and taffy for Gil-dong. We return to the present, where older Gil-dong sits on a hill looking pensive.
Rumors of a famous peddler spread among the nobles’ daughters. This peddler can help single women get married and help childless couples become fertile. So while he may simply be a merchant of women’s goods, they call him the “merchant of craftiness.”
Ga-ryung (the captive we briefly saw in the first episode) tells Nok-soo (the concubine in the first episode) the success stories from this merchant, but she expresses doubt. Ga-ryung insists that it’s real and tells her that this merchant can share how to capture a man’s heart. That seems to catch Nok-soo attention, as she momentarily stops painting.
As Gil-dong returns home, a crowd of children follow him singing along and eating his rice cakes. He’s intercepted by Ga-ryung, who checks his identity and baits him with alcohol to meet her unni, since he’s also rumored to drink like a fish.
Behind the shade, Nok-soo requests Gil-dong’s service in helping her capture a man’s heart. He can’t guarantee success and asks to know who she’s targeting, to which she answers, “The king. I want to make the king my man.” Gil-dong scoffs and asks her to reveal her face. She signals Ga-ryung to lift the shade, and they stare at each other, the tension growing.
Upon seeing Nok-soo’s face, Gil-dong disses her by saying that she’s not the fairest woman, as the rumors make her out to be. Ga-ryung lets out an exasperated gasp, but Nok-soo uses the diss to her advantage: This is way she’s so talented, since seducing people with a pretty face would be too simple, wouldn’t it?
She asks if Gil-dong would be able to help her win the king’s heart, but Gil-dong gives her a different offer. He jokingly asks her to be his partner instead, since he likes her audacity. Before he continues with his insincere offer, he’s slapped across the face by Ga-ryung, which comically snaps us out of the dramatic scene. He’s shocked by the sudden slap, and she scolds him for speaking to Nok-soo so rudely.
Nok-soo stops her before she gets carried away, and Gil-dong gives Nok-soo his real answer. He refuses to help, since he doesn’t even know how the king looks like and because his younger sister’s birthday is approaching. He bought her new shoes, and he can’t wait to give them to her. He tells Nok-soo that next time they meet, it’ll be fate. He also bids Ga-ryung a cheeky farewell and gets on his way.
He skips onward with his entourage of children trailing behind him as Ga-ryung watches him curiously. We hear a voiceover of a conversation between two men talking about Gil-dong’s merchant work. They say that women fall lovesick with him after he offers them goods, and one man claims that he sells something other than women’s items. He refers to it vaguely as “whatchamacallit,” but he’s implying that Gil-dong may be selling his body.
As Gil-dong continues his trek home, he thinks back to his interactions with Nok-soo and the slap from Ga-ryung. He shakes his head and says that she’s charming. He doesn’t specify who, but we can presume that it’s Ga-ryung he’s talking about, since he touches his slapped cheek and smiles.
Before he enters the bamboo forest, Gil-dong is stopped by fellow travelers, who invite him to walk through the dangerous tiger forest together once a few more people join their group. Gil-dong assures them that tigers are not that scary, as he’s faced a tiger before, but the travelers don’t believe him. One traveler urges the other to continue with his news about the Ikhwari elder getting in a fight with the gangster Heotaehak, and Gil-dong listens in.
Amogae hears the news of gangster Heotaehak, and Ilchung explains that he’s a business man who’s done almost everything to make money. In particular, he’s made money from creating counterfeit civil status documents, through which he’s turned nomads into slaves and created a business by selling them off. Gil-hyun warns his father that Heotaehak is disparaging their cloth business, and he advises that they meet soon.
As advised, Amogae meets with Heotaehak for a tense business discussion over drinks. Heotaehak describes his lucrative business of selling nomad-turned-slaves. Due to the severe drought, there are an endless amount of nomads that cause the king great stress. Heotaehak claims that people like him relieve such pressures off the king and provide these nomads with a means of survival. And for him, it’s like catching gold with his bare hands with limited effort.
Amogae wonders why he’s looking to share such a lucrative business, so Heotaehak explains that his work — turning free people into slaves — is illegal and wants to use Amogae’s extensive connections with government officials to preserve his business. In return, he offers Amogae’s forty percent of the profit.
Hearing the deal, Amogae nods at the potential profitability, but he refuses the offer. He acknowledges that they’re both engaging in illegal work, so he’s in no place to argue which business is dirtier or cleaner; however, he doesn’t do business selling people, especially one that turns young children into slaves. Heotaehak tries to appeal with the profits of this business, but Amogae asserts that he nor his people will engage in such business.
We return to the Gil-dong, listening in on the travelers’ gossip about the fight between his father and Heotaehak. One traveler says that Heotaehak isn’t just any gangster and that his underlings are all former warriors. They figure that the neighborhood gangsters can’t prevail over bloodthirsty warriors.
Another merchant joins the traveler group with more opinions against Amogae. He can tell Amogae used to be slave, just based on his name. He works at the slave courts, and he says that all slaves who rebel against their current status are eventually ruined, so Amogae is bound to be ruined sooner or later.
Gil-dong chimes in on this conversation by sarcastically agreeing that all people who don’t know their place should be gone to make this world livable. He tells the travelers to promise to obediently remain in their class, no matter the injustices done on their family. He specifically targets the new traveler by urging him to vow to pass on his miserable slave status to his children, and that comment initiates a fight.
Soboori and Yonggae wonder when Gil-dong will return, since he always returns in time for Eorini’s birthday, but Amogae feigns disinterest. Just then, Gil-dong opens the door, and the group warmly welcomes him back. Gil-dong offers to bow his father upon his return, but Amogae leaves the room, telling his son to eat first.
Sitting on the rocks outside, Gil-hyun assures Gil-dong that their father was the most worried, even though he may not show it. Gil-dong doesn’t seem convinced and proceeds to offer his brother a gift. It’s a rare book, and upon seeing his Gil-hyun’s pleasure, Gil-dong wonders why he won’t take the civil service exam. Gil-hyun argues that people like them will only get the grunt work, even if they pass the exam.
Suddenly, a pair of hands covers Gil-dong’s eyes — it’s Eorini, and she tells her brother to guess who it is. He guesses that it’s his “ugly” sister, and she’s adorably offended at the comment, which prompts Gil-dong to jokingly call her even uglier.
Gil-dong bows to his father, and Soboori asks how his travels were. Gil-dong describes all the beautiful ladies he met in his travels, and Soboori quickly tries to divert the conversation into one about settling down. He agrees that he should find someone to marry, but he pointedly asks who would want to marry the son of a gangster. At that comment, Amogae leaves the room, followed by Gil-hyun. Once his father leaves, Gil-dong worriedly asks Soboori about Heotaehak, but Soboori assures him that they have it under control.
That night, Gil-hyun tells Gil-dong not to worry about their invincible father, but that doesn’t seem to quiet any of his concerns. Their worries are interrupted by Eorini, who comes into her brothers’ room with her pillow, claiming that she’s too scared to sleep alone. The brothers reluctantly let her sleep between them, and we soon see the reason for their hesitance, as she flails around in her sleep. She effectively chokes both brothers with her arms and kicks them in sensitive places, while the brothers laugh about their sister’s unbreakable habit.
The next morning, as Gil-dong tries (but fails) to play cat’s cradle with his sister, Keutsae approaches him to suggest a visit to the gisaeng house. Gil-dong tells Keutsae that he’ll be cold rice (read: completely ignored) if he goes there with Gil-dong, and Eorini agrees. Gil-dong asks about his father, and Keutsae tells him that he left to meet with Magistrate Eom. He only took Soboori, Yonggae, and Ilchung, while the rest of the crew is off on their own. That sets off red flags for Gil-dong, and he rushes out in search of his father.
Gisaeng friend Sun-ah greets Amogae as he enters the gisaeng house to meet with Magistrate Eom. As they wait in the room, a drunk man stumbles in and spits curses at Amogae. Defensive Yonggae gets up to deal with the disruptive drunk and fights off the rest of the intruders. When the intruders make a run for it, Yonggae and Ilchung chase after them, and Soboori ventures outside to see where they ran off to. Sensing a strange silence, Soboori begins to turn around but gets knocked unconscious before he sees who hit him. After he falls, we see that it’s Heotaehak’s underlings.
Worried for his father’s safety, Gil-dong runs through the snow to the gisaeng house and quickly backpedals at the corner when he sees a group of Heotaehak’s warriors blocking off the entrance. Inside, Amogae puts down his glass when he senses his enemy’s presence. Heotaehak’s son enters the room with his underlings and tells Amogae that he’s like a tiger without its claws. Outside, Gil-dong clumsily climbs over the wall into the gisaeng house to try and save his father, but unfortunately he’s faced with a group of warriors. Oh no.
Heotaehak’s son tells Amogae that this unfortunate situation is his fault, for failing to train his underlings to not leave his side. Amogae asks what he plans to do, so he takes out his sword, saying that his father wants Amogae’s life. Not so fast, says a voice from behind. It’s Gil-hyun, with the rest of Amogae’s crew. Amogae says that they knew about Heotaehak’s tactics beforehand, and that’s the son’s cue to flee.
A fight breaks out outside, and Amogae strolls out to witness the scene. Soboori shows up, recovered but still in pain from the knock to the head, and they hear Gil-dong yelling for his father. He runs toward his father, and in his moment of confusion at the sight of the fight, he’s captured again by his opponents. Gil-dong swings wildly, missing every punch, and Amogae watches curiously. Eventually, Yonggae steps in to save Gil-dong, who’s then dragged away to safety.
The two sides gather outside the gisaeng house with their troops, ready to fight. Keutsae belatedly joins the Amogae Avengers, and each member prepares their weapons: Keutsae with his fist, all grown-up neighborhood hyung Eobsan with his gloved fist, Ilchung with his fan, Gil-hyun with his knife, Yonggae with his two beaters, and Segul with his rope. Yonggae yells a battle cry, and they run into the brawl.
Heotaehak’s son puts up a good fight, but he’s ultimately outnumbered by Team Amogae. On top of that, Heotaehak is dragged to the scene, all roped up and terrified. Amogae teases Heotaehak by asking whether he should cut off his tongue or his down-there, and that causes him to pee his pants.
His son has to look away from this mortifying sight, and Amogae decides that he’ll cut off one of Heotaehak’s ears, so that he’ll listen only with one ear to Amogae’s words. Soboori holds the ear, and Amogae slices the ear off, as Gil-dong watches with watering eyes.
Amogae’s people celebrate their victory with drinks, and Gil-hyun apologizes to Gil-dong for leaving him in the dark. Drunk Yonggae mocks Gil-dong for yelling for his father like a frightened child, but he quickly shuts up when he notices his crush, Geumran. He tries to sober up and practices his lines in front of the brothers. He calls for Geumran, but when she approaches, he chickens out and says he never called for her. Gil-dong asks if he’s scared of women, and Yonggae nods while sitting on Gil-dong’s lap like a small child, ha.
It’s a festival for Amogae’s people, and they’ve gathered around to watch Gil-dong arm wrestle Keutsae, who’s supposedly the strongest of them all. Gil-dong visibly struggles to stay in the game, as Eorini cheers on her brother. From afar, Amogae watches the match and announces that whoever wins the match will win a great prize. Gil-dong’s face cringes as he musters all of his strength, and he ends up winning, much to his own surprise.
Gil-dong brags to his brother and father about his win, and we briefly flash back to young Gil-dong’s manifested strength. Amogae and Gil-hyun seem to remember this time with a hint of concern, while Eobsan hyung claims that Gil-dong is actually really strong. No one believes him, though, seeing how he couldn’t even defend himself earlier that day. Nevertheless, the villagers are celebratory, and they sing and dance loudly. Amogae watches his people celebrate and smiles.
Everyone passes out, and Amogae walks through the pile of drunken bodies. Gil-dong approaches him and asks for his prize from winning the arm wrestling match. Amogae agrees to hear his request, so Gil-dong drops to his knees to ask that they flee Ikhwari. He’s worried that Heotaeak will seek revenge and knows that many others are out to kill his father. He found a nice place with good land and water and begs his father to establish a quiet farming life there.
Amogae asks if the land and water are really nice, but he’s only giving Gil-dong a false sense of hope. He asks his son, “Don’t you know what will happen if we live as farmers?” Gil-dong responds with the same question, “Don’t you know what will happen if we continue to live as thieves?” Gil-hyun overhears Gil-dong’s disrespectful plea and drags him away for a scolding.
At the large tree decorated with cloth, Gil-hyun yells at his brother that in the land of Ikhwari, their father is the king and the heavens. Gil-dong acknowledges that everyone knows of Elder Amogae now, but he asks his brother if he knows how their mother died. He says that their father killed their mother, specifically their father’s greed. “People who don’t know their place will die before fulfilling their full time. If we continue to live like this, we will all die. Father will die, [you] will die, and Eorini will die before her time as well.”
From behind, Amogae asks his son, “Gil-dong, then do you think you can live out your life?” Amogae touches the tree and tells his sons about its history. The tree was gifted from a shaman from Jirisan, with the purpose of supporting a great energy that will inhabit Joseon. Amogae says that he then asked the shaman how Gil-dong will live his life out. He doesn’t share the response but asks Gil-dong to wrestle against him, without going easy.
They begin the wrestling match, and they seem evenly matched. As they round in circles, Gil-dong experiences a moment of great strength and lifts his father up. Amogae tells his son to keep using his strength, but Gil-dong eventually gives up and puts his father down. Angered by this, Amogae throws Gil-dong on the ground.
When Gil-dong looks up, Amogae demands that they wrestle again, but he says that he can’t. Amogae tells Gil-dong to uproot the tree or break the rock, but he cries that he can’t. Amogae approaches his crying son and asks why he can’t. He wonders if his encounter with the tiger has anything to do with Gil-dong’s reluctance to use his power. But Gil-dong claims that it was all a lie — he never saw a tiger. At some moment, he lost his strength, and he cries that he’s nothing now.
Amogae looks at his crying son and sees the spitting image of young Gil-dong crying at his father. More sympathetic now, Amogae wipes the tears on Gil-dong’s face and holds his son’s face in his hands. That evening, he summons Soboori and says that he’s going to rest now, meaning he’s going to pass on his business. Gil-hyun watches Gil-dong sleep, looking troubled about his brother.
The next morning, Soboori asks Gil-dong if he asked his father to give up his business. Soboori knows that Gil-dong must be the one who convinced his father, and while Soboori looks worried, Gil-dong runs away overjoyed. He goes to his father and confirms his plans to settle into the farming life. His father walks out saying, “Farming life should be nice. Plant barley and beans. And maybe even two pigs.”
Gil-dong cautiously asks Gil-hyun if he doesn’t want their father to give up their business. Gil-hyun says that it’s his father’s choice, but he’s also tired of people out for their father’s life. The brothers smile at each other, finally in agreement.
Eorini asks Gil-dong if she’ll have to work on the farm now, and Gil-dong says that he’d rather not have their “ugly” sister do any work. She pouts at being called ugly again, but he quickly appeases her by gifting her with a new pair of shoes. And with that, he’s off on another merchant travel as Eorini yells at her brother to come home sooner this time.
On his way out, Gil-dong stops by the Shaman Tree and stacks a rock for his prayer. He prays that his father and family will be safe during his travels, especially since their father has decided to lead a new life now. He adorably leans in to hear the silent response from the tree and thanks it for the protection. He happily walks off, but a gust of wind blows and knocks down the rock stack. Bad omen.
Magistrate Eom offers to introduce Amogae to Choongwongoon, a man of royal blood who became infamous for killing one of his lady servants. Amogae isn’t interested in a connection with such a person, but Magistrate Eom convinces him by suggesting that this connection may be useful for his sons’ futures.
At the royalty’s house, Amogae asks Magistrate Eom if the royal families look any different. Magistrate Eom confirms that they do and jokingly says that Choongwongoon looks like a pig. They laugh while lying prostrate and immediately stand up to greet the entering royal prince.
Choongwongoon (Kim Jung-tae) greets his guests, and Amogae humbly asks how a royal person would look for a person like him. Rumor has spread about Heotaeak’s defeat, and Choongwongoon requests a job from Amogae. He throws a scroll at him, and Amogae unrolls it to find a picture of a woman. She’s a runaway servant girl, and Choongwongoon wants to find her. He adds that if there is a man by her side, they can go ahead and kill him.
It’s a barbaric request, and Amogae sits in silence. We see Gil-dong happily walking off on his merchant travels, and we hear Amogae’s agreement to farm life voiceover the scene — “Farming life should be nice. Plant barley and beans. And maybe even two pigs.” — hinting that the prospect of the simple life is at stake.
COMMENTS
The simple farming life was never a possibility, was it? To Gil-dong, it was the dream, but it never seemed possible for Amogae. He’s come too far to return to a simple and innocent life, and he’s become far too infamous to escape imminent death. It was clear that Amogae and Gil-dong disapproved of each other’s life choices due to fundamental disagreements about each other’s fate, and I think that was the core of the father-son conflict we saw in the first half of the episode. Amogae believed that Gil-dong was wasting his potential and gift of strength, and Gil-dong believed that his father was greed for wealth beyond his life’s determined quota. Despite the tension between Gil-dong and Amogae, it was also clear that they care about each other more than they let show. I found it sweet and humanizing to see Amogae take off his Ikhwari Elder mask and finally embrace Gil-dong as his father in the end, even if his promise to pursue a farmer’s life would never be fulfilled.
It’s an interesting conflict that continued to pop up throughout the episode — whether one should strive for social mobility or stay complacent in maintaining social order. I find Amogae’s approach with determining and stretching his own fate more appealing, and I presume that Gil-dong will soon adopt this philosophy once he realizes the means through which he must protect his family. I’m curious about Gil-dong’s Mighty Child abilities, which actually seem nonexistent at this point. It doesn’t seem like he’s just pretending that his mighty strength just doesn’t exist, as he seems equally if not more frustrated with his inability to use his strength. I’m with Amogae on his hunch that the tiger interaction had something to do with the loss of power, and I’m looking forward to seeing how he’ll regain his power.
Until then, I’m pleased with the Gil-dong we have right now. I really enjoyed the dorky and simple Gil-dong we were introduced to, since he seems like the complete opposite of our expected hero. He was incredibly cautious and child-like, and I loved the juxtaposition he provided in the setting of his father’s duplicity. Gil-dong and his interactions were much more comical than I had anticipated, and I enjoyed how Gil-dong was the comic relief to his father’s intense life-or-death games. Yoon Kyung-sang is doing great with balancing palpable tension and despair with his simple and adorable side. I wouldn’t have expected any less from him, and I’m excited to see how much more we’ll get to see in the coming episodes.
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1 Greenfields
February 14, 2017 at 5:04 PM
Loved it, loved it, loved it.
I enjoyed all of it - the fighting between the gangs, the unexpectedly soft Gil dong, the music, the dialogue, everything. No complaints.
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Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 9:22 AM
They have been true to the time period so far and what it's like to be at the lowest rank in Joseon and who their enemies were.
I'm not too fond of this gang war that came out of nowhere but maybe it makes more sense for them to go this route then have to deal with Japanese pirates of that era who were harassing the poor peasants. (Korean actors speaking another language? No thanks).
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gambitfan3000
February 16, 2017 at 12:32 AM
I wouldn't say it 'came out of nowhere'; it's the first episode of the 'post-prologue' half of the beginning of the series, so they're still allowed to do some introducing of elements and 'first level' bosses for our young protagonist to beat up. Besides, gangs fighting for territory is kind of what gangs do, so a successful Ah Mo Gae being targeted by his schmuck of a counterpart is hardly out of the question.
Really loving this series, especially after that abortion of a Hong Gil Dong show a few years ago. I could honestly forgo the 'Mighty Child' plot altogether and just watch Ah Mo Gae run his criminal empire. Unfortunately, I fear that this will be the last of our happy episodes for a good long while.
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Kiara
February 17, 2017 at 8:51 AM
My point is that it might take the focus away from the main/ real enemy of "the people", the yangban who governed the countryside.
I guess I just don't want to see revenge as the motivation for Gil Dong because some gangster killed his father.
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Kiara
February 17, 2017 at 9:30 AM
Since slavery is a big issue in this drama, I guess it makes sense to deal with the likes of Heotaehak and his thugs who are scamming the poor peasants and turning them into slaves.
(Kind of like Jackpot, where they set up gambling dens and becomes the loan sharks. When people can't pay their loans they becomes their slaves and then they're sold for a very high price. Even sad when innocent children are involved because their father owes money to these thugs).
I never once thought of the Gil Dong in the novel or that fantasy Hong Gil Dong drama. This reminds me more of the real life hero who is the inspiration behind Gil Dong's character.
This is creative and realistic within this particular time period and surely this writer did his homework.
I have no complains, I'm just worried I guess. It feels like we haven't had a good fusion sageuk in years.
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2 harunomasu
February 14, 2017 at 5:08 PM
I couldn't believe I'm watching sageuk again, after the long (but satisfying) Six Flying Dragons, but I blame Yoon Kyun-sang for it :p
I really love this episode, especially his interaction with Ga-ryung. He's so charming and cheeky I could see why women love him more. But it seems that episode 6 is the door to doom that would make our smiley hero not smiling anymore D:
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3 Juliesean
February 14, 2017 at 5:27 PM
Daddy is gonna get killed isn't it??? He's so riveting in this role. I don't want him to die .......
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Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 7:38 AM
I'm going to miss Kim Sang-joong. Still a Stud and a half in his 50s.
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4 Juliesean
February 14, 2017 at 5:31 PM
Sorry, pressed oo fast.
Only after his father's death will he regain his power and change in philosophy. Something traumatic like this will change him. Isn't this one of the laws of kdramas?
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Lord Cobol
February 14, 2017 at 5:43 PM
Yes, it's like the two themes of this ep were:
1: How many ways can we jinx ourselves?
2: How many chances can we give Gil-Dong to not recover his superstrength - yet?
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5 elvira
February 14, 2017 at 6:08 PM
Good God,
Never thought watching Yoon Kyun-sang smiling from ear to ear and showing his dimples will make me this happy...
Hahahaha...
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juliesean
February 14, 2017 at 6:36 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts. He's gonna be broody and angsty till the end....
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jomo143
February 14, 2017 at 6:47 PM
And he's so genuine!
At first I thought how is he going to be able to capture the sweetness and righteousness of his Little Him, then I realized they cast a Little Him who captured YKS's essence.
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 8:38 AM
@jomo you nailed it.
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6 pogo
February 14, 2017 at 6:50 PM
After meeting Ga-ryung and the future Jang Nok-soo, I'm starting to think we might have mixed up the descriptions of the female leads - Ga-ryung is clearly unmarried, and her unni appears a much more likely candidate to have become widowed and want to seduce the king as revenge. Just a theory.
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Sera The Ms Temper
February 14, 2017 at 8:30 PM
Your theory actually makes sense to explain the motive of Nok Soo to seduce the King.But I alao want to see the direction goes on the original description, because otherwise Ga Ryung probably will become a plain and less interesting character later on.
OK off to finish epi 3-6 by today so I can join the party on epi 6 recap lol. Just drop by to say Honey Lee is so gorgeous, she is like a woman born in that era. I had a short thought, how awesome and fabulous it will be if she is the one playing the Queen in Hwarang. But looks like she gonna fit here more. ;)
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 8:32 AM
I'm pretty sure Ga-ryung gets married at some point, her hair is in the married-lady bun when she's tied to the stake.... only question is, who's the guy? But I like that she has era-appropriate sass (it works nicely to have her spirited side come out when she's trying to preserve propriety - she slapped Gil-song for insulting her unni, after all)
Honey Lee is perfect for this role so far, she looks so completely at ease in gisaeng mode. And I love her voice <3
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Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 8:46 AM
I love them both!
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Chandler
February 15, 2017 at 9:14 AM
Yup, and I love that they're friends/seem to have their own aims to accomplish. I'm excited to see more of their lives next week, even if it's probably a sign that we'll be moving on from Dad's story.
Sera The Ms Temper
February 15, 2017 at 9:01 AM
The guy is not appeared yet I guess. But love both them. The slap is funny though. LOL. I keep repeating because love Gil dong's reaction kkkm.
Both female leads are really fit into their role. Honey Lee's voice is so sexy. An actress that I dont mind to see her in sageuk every year.
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Chandler
February 15, 2017 at 9:33 AM
Haha, I think I replayed the slap and the moment he thought back on it, all smitten, like....twenty times already. Not only was it hilarious, but it already got me shipping them so hard. I can't remember the last time I've been so excited for a pairing after such a small moment.
That said, I think their love will form rather slowly because it seems like he'll have a little something with NokSoo first, despite having some interest in Ga-Ryung. Which is, surprisingly, fine by me because they have lots of chemistry, as well. I love how, despite being somewhat of a dork at times, he's rather smooth with the ladies. Makes him a fun character.
That will give Ga-ryung time to get married and end up widowed, I guess.
Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 8:45 AM
Honey Lee is rocking it. She is well trained in Korean traditional instruments and music and I hope we'd get to see her play the gayageum.
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 8:57 AM
I'm still in awe of how perfect she looks in costume.
And obviously she got what she wanted, going by her first scene of this drama, but I want to see how it all plays out.
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Sera The Ms Temper
February 15, 2017 at 9:08 AM
She is moderately pretty in modern clothes but she really perfect in traditional costume. Not only she looks pretty, she carries the elegance together.
Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 10:12 AM
I enjoyed her better in sageuks and her voice fits her sageuk characters.
It's like how Seo Ye Ji's voice fits better in sageuks than modern dramas.
pogo
February 15, 2017 at 11:32 AM
@Sera - imo she has a really unusual, striking look in modern-day clothes but the classic costumes really bring out her elegance and poise.
@Kiara - yeah, her voice is right for sageuks. I love listening to her speak.
Sera The Ms Temper
February 15, 2017 at 9:04 AM
We just saw her very little but already fangirling lol. But yes hopefully there will be a chance to see her playing gayageum. I'll for sure will be drooling.
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acacia
February 14, 2017 at 10:42 PM
Hmmm my theory is a little different.
It seems like GaRyung is a servant girl in this episode and we have seen girls get sold off like nothing in other saguks... so I think GaRyung gets sold off into a marriage and becomes widowed later on hopefully through her own strength (girlpower!) or through the help of GilDong.
Also, the character description of NokSoo says that GilDong is her first love so I think the pre-story is not over yet.
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 8:28 AM
I still wonder how they're going to make it work, if Ga-ryung is the one who's widowed.
But going by her hair when she was tied to the stake, I suppose she got married at some point, so either way, we'll get our answers soon.
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acacia
February 15, 2017 at 11:22 AM
From my understanding Joseon widows keep their hair in a bun long after being widowed because they're still considered married to their dead husbands so we don't know how long it's been since she's been widowed when when she's at the stake.
I'm glad they made GaRyung into an intricate character even before we really know whats going on. I'm looking forward to how things turn out too ☺
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 11:30 AM
That wasn't the issue I was wondering about, re: Ga-ryung being possibly widowed at the stake, it's just that going off her hairstyle atm she's still unmarried, so the drama has to get her married and then possibly widowed? Or maybe just married, if Gil-dong is the one she marries at some point?
And according to the original character descriptions, that would mean she'd have to go from unmarried, to married and enough into the husband that she'd seduce the king as revenge when she's ultimately widowed.
acacia
February 16, 2017 at 5:00 PM
I see what you mean. I guess my theory is that your last sentence would be the part that becomes true. It is a 30 episode drama so crossing my fingers that it's plenty of time for them to flesh out that complicated marrying and being widowed to trying to seduce the king and yet still liking GilDong storyline.
My guess is also that she doesn't marry and get widowed from Gildong so.... who's this guy that scores our sassy chick?
acacia
February 16, 2017 at 5:02 PM
btw a random different question since I'm still new to commenting on db, but is there a way to get notifications when someone replies to your comment? Or do we just have to check out our comments/refresh to see that we get a reply? I always feel bad commenting back hours or days or not commenting back after someone replies to my comment
Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 1:03 PM
Maybe it's going to be one sided with Nok-soo. If Gil Dong loves her he wouldn't feed her ambition.
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Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 8:37 AM
@pogo
Joseon widows were looked down upon unless they have high status like queen regent/dowager who wield power behind the curtain. They were seen as a burden to their family since they weren't allowed to remarry etc, unless the king of Joseon says otherwise. (Yeonsangun probably broke every rules in the palace).
If the show is following the history, she was married and had a child before she became a gisaeng (her ticket to the palace as an entertainer). Although she was beautiful she used her talents to attract men. Like she said, a pretty face is too simple and she had more than just a pretty face.
Her motive and ambition is already well established in this episode. She was also a half breed servant and daughter of a concubine. There is not much going for her unless she finds a way to elevate her status.
We saw a slave/servant's ambition to free himself and his family. Now we have a another slave/servant/gisaeng's ambition for power.
I'm not sure what happen to her husband so you might be right about revenge.
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 8:54 AM
Interesting to know that about the real Jang Nok-soo! I knew widows were looked down on (and young ones even more so - lot like my country in the same era, that way).
It's not clear she was married in the drama since she could have been sold into the gibang as an unmarried girl, but the loss of a husband certainly makes a very convincing explanation for her abruptly expressed intent to seduce the king. If this is true, then it'll be a neat bit of mirroring between her and Amogae - both of them went on that path after losing a beloved spouse, and both plotted their way up.
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Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 12:43 PM
Yes it's hard to tell if she is married with the gisaeng hair but we'll see.
I think power corrupts no matter who wields it even good men and women will fall victim to it at some point. Amogae held onto it for too long and ended up paying the price for it.
Gil Dong seems to earn his living through legal trades I believe. He calls out his father's business the way it is. Like it bugs him that he still conduct his business through illegal means.
I agree, Amogae and Noksoo are similar in a way. They probably will share similar fate in the end.
Food for thoughts: Something that Gil Dong said to his father “People who don’t know their place will die before fulfilling their full time..." One of the merchant said "all slaves who rebel against their current status are eventually ruined, so Amogae is bound to be ruined sooner or later."
Is this the curse for going against Confucian social order?
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Sera The Ms Temper
February 15, 2017 at 9:12 AM
Thanks Kiara for this. It will be interesting if both female leads are seeking revenge on the King, although the method used will be different.
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Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 12:52 PM
I'm glad you are here. You have been late to the parties lately :).
I think I only get the basics. I'm not quite sure if she was a half breed. The only reason why I thought she was it's because her mother was a concubine and most noblemen were rich enough to afford a concubine or two.
Maybe she was a slave that her father fell in love with.
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Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 12:55 PM
Can't wait for more back stories especially Ga Ryung.
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mooses
February 17, 2017 at 3:43 PM
actually, I've seen pics of Ga-ryung with gisaeng hair and clothing, so she might be trying to go in the Jang Nok-soo route to get the king.
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7 jomo143
February 14, 2017 at 6:50 PM
Thanks for the recap! Love love this.
Cried like a crybaby when Dad finally went all soft on his baby baby son. Dad's been so good at not making his kids into people he wants them to be. If GD chooses the thieving life, it isn't because Dad made him do it, but it will be his choice.
The music, I love so much.
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Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 12:57 PM
Finally, a sageuk with appropriate music.
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WishfulToki
February 15, 2017 at 2:48 PM
Me too! Some tracks have a Western (cowboy) feel to it. I like it.
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PakalanaPikake
February 16, 2017 at 12:52 AM
You've got that right. I was definitely getting an Ennio Morricone spaghetti Western vibe a la "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly."** How apropos for the shootout at the OK Corral. Amogae and the boys kick butt and run the interlopers out of Dodge City.
** The 1968 hit cover version by Hugo Montenegro & His Orchestra is epic, and for my money packs more of a punch than the movie soundtrack. The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain also does a terrific rendition.
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8 bmore
February 14, 2017 at 6:59 PM
I thought I would die laughing when Ga-ryung up and slapped him! WHACK! It was So out out nowhere I LOL'd from the shock! What a great moment. I absolutely adore her already, but I am prejudiced too because I fell in love with Chae Soo Bin in Bluebird and she cemented me as her fan with her terrific performance in Sassy Go Go. She is wonderful! I'm in love with this show so far! Sageuk is my least favorite genre, but Six Flags and, so far, this are changing me. If they can continue to bring this kind of quality of writing and acting, I'll change my mind.
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Kiara
February 14, 2017 at 7:36 PM
She really slap the heck out of him haha. Gil Dong: "You are really strong for a small girl"
Love her already!
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Kiara
February 14, 2017 at 7:37 PM
*slapped*
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 8:25 AM
yeah, that was a nice solid smack there.
She's not actually that small fora woman, going off their press conference pics, but next to Yoon Kyun-sang most women look tiny lol.
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Sera The Ms Temper
February 15, 2017 at 9:16 AM
Yes she is not that small i believe. But yeah with Baby Giant all women can look tiny. Imagine if the small girls like Park Eun Bin or Kim So Eun beside him? Lol. PEB is experiencing it now with Lee Tae Hwan, and I wonder if Baby Giant is taller than LTH.
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Sera The Ms Temper
February 14, 2017 at 8:38 PM
LOL I am behind with the latest episodes but I saw the video. That slaps seriously killed the tense moment lmao.
You should check some past sageuk, Tree with Deep Roots is still among my favourite. I dont know if you have tried or not, sageuk is my favourite genre but these days sageuk has become so boring to be in my list, I rather rewatch some past sageuk. These days probably too many fanservice and unnecessary love triangle etc.
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voice
February 14, 2017 at 10:29 PM
100% me. I liked her character before even watching her because of Chae soo-bin
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 8:24 AM
That slap was perfect, I was dying of lols there. Can't wait to see more of them!
I like that Ga-ryung and Gong-hwa are assertive in ways that feel true to their time and station in life. And I love that we've started off the story with the two female leads so close to each other. That's not something we often get to see.
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Sera The Ms Temper
February 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM
Especially in sageuk, it is not so often to see two female leads are close. Even the relationship probably would be broken later, i hope we get to see their closeness and cute relationship for a while.
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Chandler
February 15, 2017 at 9:44 AM
That was something I loved about the Princess's Man. The friendship between Moon Chae-won and Hong Soo-hyun in that show got quite a bit of focus and I loved watching the ups and downs of their relationship. No matter how many times HSH tried to break their friendship, MCW refused and proved her loyalty. I was recently watching it and wished that more female relationships would be given this much focus.
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 10:19 AM
@Chandler - that was a really well-written relationship, and the actresses both brought it hard (Hong Soo-hyun especially).
It's nice to see a relationship between two female friends actually allowed to have conflict and imperfections and work through it. It's a nice change from conventional thinking which says good girlfriends never disagree and never fight.
Kiara
February 15, 2017 at 1:00 PM
So true and I don't know what KBS is doing with those writers. Their last few sageuks sucks even worse with the latest to date.
9 acacia
February 14, 2017 at 10:32 PM
WOW... I haven't been able to find a drama that has given me a desire to look up recaps and comment since SKL.
I love saguks and especially loved the Hong sisters' wacky Hong Gil Dong drama but with the recent drama drought I'm in, I was wary but am 100% loving this drama!!
1. GilDong's smile while remembering GaRyung's slap!! Adorbs!!
2. The family and extended "gang" family dynamics!! I don't know how long it will last but crossing my fingers because there are well-known actors in the mix of the members
3. KyunSang's tears and emotions really hit the heartstrings!! I really thought he was faking not being strong!
One question though: Eorini literally means little child in Korean. I'm not sure if I missed it, but has the drama ever given us why she doesn't have a legit name? I thought Amogae was all for having names that sound like legit names because he doesn't want his children to be judged based on a slave-name!
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enkeys
February 14, 2017 at 11:16 PM
I know, right? I was wondering if that's the nickname they gave her since she's literally a child but they've never called her other names and I don't think Amogae has ever explained to us why she is named that way either. I am kinda disappointed in Amogae lol
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byeol
February 15, 2017 at 3:57 AM
I think he wanted to hide Gil Dong's ability back then because he was still a child and they're poor slaves.
Amogae mentioned once that Mighty Child who was born not on a noble family are killed because they we're considered threat (I think it is one of Amogae's reason why he wanted to get off being a slave.)
Now that Gil Dong is grown up, he can more likely control himself & use that strength to protect not only himself but also the people around him.
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Greenfields
February 15, 2017 at 4:06 AM
Actually, as you probably already know, it's pretty common for names to have a meaning in many parts of the world. Japanese names, for example. In my country, India, most names hold a meaning - mine is the more poetic, almost romantic word for the sound of rainfall, but many people have names from common, everyday speech.
Maybe her name will be revealed later, or maybe he name her 'little child' out of love.
'Ah Moe Gae' or 'anybody' on the other hand - now that's a name given in condescension. The derogatory connotation comes not from front fact that word is in everyday use, but from what it means.
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Greenfields
February 15, 2017 at 4:07 AM
From the fact*
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acacia
February 15, 2017 at 7:32 AM
That's so interesting!! It's interesting to know that some Indian names hold names from everyday speech! I'm Korean-American so I've met a few Korean-Americans with similar common speech, usually nouns like Haneul (like Kang Haneul!!) which is sky and a friend is named NaRi which when combined with her surname (Kae) in the front means the flower, forsythia.
I guess my tiff with Amogae was that most Korean names have significance because each syllable or character represents a Chinese character that gives the name meaning. I'm sure Gil and Dong has Chinese character representation and Eorini is simply called "child" all the time because...? Lol i need answers Amogae!!!
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10 enkeys
February 14, 2017 at 11:20 PM
Yoon Kyunsang's cry is really the same as little Gildong cry which makes that scene sad and funny at the same time for me. But I thought Dad wants him to hide the fact that he's the Mighty Child? If that's so then wouldn't it be a relief to Dad if Gildong actually can't use his strength anymore?
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11 blessingwind
February 14, 2017 at 11:58 PM
I absolutely loved this episode! This would be perhaps the last time we would be able to witness such sweet ,blissful and happy moments of the whole ikhwari village. The storm is on its way to ruin and tear apart everyone , and a lot more suffering in store for them.
I really loved that the bond between the Gildong and his father Ah Mo Gae, is so special and warm, even though they both have conflicting opinions on one another. This would make the -father and son goals. The writing of this father and son scenes just so beautiful and it makes you feel so connected, be it Ah MO gae with the little gil dong and Ah Mo gae with the old gil dong.
I admire Ah mo gae, for becoming who he really is. From a slave with many hardships to a master whom everyone respect. That determination, that greed to save his family and find to freedom, is so powerful, that i just want to salute this guy. For me, he would considered one of the BESTEST fathers in k-dramas. I loved that he isnt a weak father character, who begs to save their child, instead he used his smart thinking and saved his family at the end.
I also loved that, Ah mo gae really cares for Gil dong,that despite him being in that 'gang' business for long time, and it would too late to return to the simply lifestyle he led before becoming a leader, , he actually with sincerity accepted to fulfill the dream of Gil dong, to leave the place and do farming. That just made me tear up, Just for his son, he is ready to leave all the wealth and lead a simple life.
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12 Barbrey
February 15, 2017 at 12:46 AM
I NEVER rewatch shows. Once the suspense is gone about what will happen next, I'm usually not interested in rewatching. For once, I'm breaking the rule. This drama is quality through and through.
I'm not yet quite on board with adult Gil Dong, I think because his character from Six Flying Dragons still hasn't faded - the dimwitted but loving Moose character - so I am not seeing the charismatic leader he'll need to be, like his dad, yet, but do hope the actor can pull it off. He is meant to be easily underestimated at the beginning so I will enjoy his similarities to his SFD character while waiting for the tiger to arrive.
I'm watching Hwarang at the same time - what a difference in quality between these two shows! And the historical Hwarang are so interesting, it's a shame the writer/producers could not have taken a page from the writer/producers book of this show.
But a lot of my praise is due to Kim San joong playing Ah Mo Gae. I hope he wins plenty of awards for this role!
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acacia
February 15, 2017 at 7:38 AM
Me too!!! I too can't get fully past his sweet Moohyul character!!
I guess you're right though, perhaps it was a strategy to have him remembered as the sweet character at first to give that dramatic change! And we know he can because sweet Moohyul was quite the serious beast when he got that beard ?
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WishfulToki
February 15, 2017 at 2:57 PM
Rebel is such a joy to watch, and on an entirely different level than Hwarang. All legends have some historical truth, so I've heard. This show has grounded its characters into everyday historical Joseon, while the legend is still only a murmur. Can't wait to see the tiger awaken!
I'm also dying to know what happened at that encounter with the tiger...
Oh, Kim San Joong had me glued to the screen in City Hunter, and he's doing it again here.
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PakalanaPikake
February 16, 2017 at 1:39 AM
This show has grounded its characters into everyday historical Joseon
Writer-nim did the same thing in THE KING'S DAUGHTER, SU BAEK-HYANG. The immersion in everyday life in farming villages, inns, border fortresses, marketplaces, the palace, while traveling with jade carriers on the road, and among new recruits in basic training... It was so vivid, I felt as if I'd taken the Tardis to Baekje and Gaya. And then I didn't want to leave.
The settings were many and varied, too. I'm thinking back on the waterfalls near the "laundromat" where SBH grew up, and how beautiful they were year-round. -- In REBEL, we've already seen some stunning vistas, and I expect we're in for a lot more as we accompany Gil-dong on his travels.
I'm with you about learning what went on during the encounter with the tiger. Not to mention the significance of the branch of ume little Gil-dong brought back -- which may have had an influence on his meeting with the tiger. I've seen different subtitles referring to it as apricot and maybe plum or peach. Peach blossoms set off my supernatural detector. (Botanically, the stone fruits are all in the same genus, so maybe there wasn't much differentiation between the species back then.)
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WishfulToki
February 16, 2017 at 3:09 PM
I feel I should watch The King's Daughter SBH. I've seen you mention it a few times and you're telling me it's based on Baekje? They are always, always the enemy in the Three Kingdoms era dramas I've watched. Unfortunately 108 episodes is intimidating. :O
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13 sooyi
February 15, 2017 at 4:59 AM
Yoon Kyun-sang looks like a puppy when he has long hair :D I got that feeling too when I saw him as Moohyul in Six Flying Dragons.
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keiru
February 15, 2017 at 7:23 AM
I thought I would cringe when watching Gil Dong's scene with the ladies, I thought I could die from secondhand embarrasement. Surprisingly, it was such a fun scene ! Now I can't wait to see their next meeting !
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keiru
February 15, 2017 at 7:25 AM
Sorry, it was supposed to be a new post XD
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14 PakalanaPikake
February 15, 2017 at 7:33 AM
Thanks for recapping and commenting, dramallama!
I'm really wondering what kind of whammy the tiger put on little Gil-dong that he seems to have forgotten his own inadvertent role in his father's criminal career. It was never simply a case of Amogae turning greedy for social advancement or wealth. Wealth was only ever a means to free his family from the servant's life in the clutches of his greedy masters. He knew that Gil-dong would never be able to control his anger or his strength when the inevitable mistreatment became too much to bear.
Grown-up Gil-dong remembers his former strength as the Mighty Child, and is deeply pained to be bereft of it. But he seems to have totally lost the pointer to Dad's covering for him on more than one occasion -- most fatefully when the boy threw stones at Lord Jo's Horny Uncle after he attacked Mom.
It's funny how so many other characters project their own greediness onto Amogae, for whom wealth is merely a means of gaining safety.
My theory regarding Gil-dong's success with the ladies goes beyond his being a lover, not a fighter. I have a sneaking suspicion that the tiger may have bestowed animal magnetism on him. So far, however, Gil-dong looks more like the Cowardly Lion than a lithe and lethal feline.
Little Sister beating up her big brothers in her sleep cracked me up. It echoes a running joke in Writer-nim's previous sageuk, THE KING'S DAUGHTER, SU BAEK-HYANG, but ups the unladylike ante.
I was pleased to see Amogae's ssireum match with Gil-dong, and felt bad that the kid was so psyched out. My first encounter with traditional Korean wrestling was in the film LIKE A VIRGIN. Highly recommended, especially for fans of high school and collegiate wrestling. The late Coffee Prince, Lee Eon, who plays one of the sunbae grapplers, had been a wrestler in real life.
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pogo
February 15, 2017 at 8:37 AM
I love the sight gag of adorable, indulged Little Sister being a sprawling brother-choker in her sleep.
As for Gil-dong's strength and its loss, I'm not that surprised he's forgotten crucial parts of their story - he was very traumatised, and also very young. But omg Yoon Kyun-sang is heartbreaking when he cries.
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PakalanaPikake
February 16, 2017 at 12:03 AM
@pogo,
Thanks for the reminder. I sometimes don't see the Trauma Forest for the trees. ;-)
I love your way with words: "sprawling brother-choker" -- right on the money. ;-)
It's not merely a sight-gag, but serves as a touching exposition of the siblings' closeness. Little Sis has her two big bros wrapped around her pinky, and they wouldn't have it any other way. Even if they really should wear armored PJs.
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15 annerl
February 15, 2017 at 3:28 PM
A lot of people are leaning towards Daddy demise, but what I'm actually afraid of is Little Sis. I dunno, there doesn't seem to be an indication she grew older. Oh God. This is one hell of a sageuk.
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PakalanaPikake
February 15, 2017 at 11:52 PM
Maybe she will be separated from the rest of the family, have amnesia, and grow up with a different name. If she doesn't end up as a nomad sold off as a slave. Hmmm. I agree, it's not looking good, given how many baddies are after Amogae and his gang.
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16 Viki
February 17, 2017 at 12:59 AM
It feels like the intensity of the first 4 episodes died down after the kids grew up. Everything just seems too good to be stay "happily ever after" so we all know they are gonna face a big conflict soon. I hope Gil Dong gets his super strength back soon! But somehow I know it's gonna be due to at least one of his family members dying (father?!) :'(
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