The Man Living in Our House: Episode 10
by LollyPip
Na-ri has a decision to make that will affect her and Nan-gil forever, but she’s torn between choosing love or loyalty, and everyone is pulling her in opposite directions. It’s hard enough to know that your entire future rests on doing the right thing, but what to do when there’s no clear answer?
EPISODE 10 RECAP
Uncle confronts Nan-gil and Na-ri with his legal complaint against Nan-gil, and leaves with Wan-shik after begging Na-ri to testify on his behalf. Wan-shik confirms that Uncle said everything he was supposed to say about Na-ri’s father being dead, and they head back to the city.
Na-ri asks Nan-gil if there’s anything he’s still hiding from her. He says that Dada Finance is making Uncle pursue an annulment of his marriage to her mother, and that it’s possible Dada also forged her father’s death certificate. He tells her that he’ll keep looking for her father, and she says she believes that Uncle did see him a year ago.
Deok-bong lets himself into Deok-shim’s room, hilariously leaving and coming back in again when she doesn’t scream at him. He asks about her fighting skills, and she immediately knows he’s talking about her scuffle with Yeo-joo. Deok-shim tells him how Yeo-joo manhandled her, sure that she used to be a school bully.
Deok-bong asks if something happened at school, but Deok-shim just asks if he really likes Na-ri more than Yeo-joo. She says that Yeo-joo looks like his first love who betrayed him, then clarifies that she’s not looking out for him or anything, she just likes Na-ri better.
Na-ri finds Nan-gil kneading dough and asks why he didn’t tell her about Uncle’s complaint. He says he was trying to figure out how to tell her, since he has to win, but he was struggling with asking her to testify for him. Na-ri says she won’t be his witness, because having the marriage nullified will help them be together.
Nan-gil reminds her of what this place means to him – it’s even more important than she is. Na-ri still refuses, since it would mean that Nan-gil stays her stepfather forever, and even if their love isn’t meant to last, she can’t continue with things the way they are.
She’s confused and upset, and she tells Nan-gil to stop trying to change her mind before she says something hurtful. She says they should both think about this, and leaves.
In the morning, Young-gyu is startled by the three ladies from the TV show, who’ve come bearing coffee and wide smiles. They chat up Young-gyu and a very bored Nan-gil, who’s more interested in why Na-ri just left her house with a shovel.
Deok-bong has some questions for Secretary Kwon, such as why his grandfather would make a gift of land to Na-ri’s mother when she was only fifteen years old. He asks her to find out and she wonders how she could know what happened in 1975, and Deok-bong asks how she knew what year it was. HA, busted.
Yeo-joo finds him, having lied that she’s Deok-bong’s friend to gain entry to the closed museum. She asks if he wants to make a deal, and Deok-bong looks intrigued.
Nan-gil must have caved on allowing the TV show, because next thing he knows he’s being told to just behave normally while they film. Writer Lee says it will be simple, just a quick interview then the guests will taste the food.
Nan-gil says he has one condition, that he wants to use the show to look for the restaurant’s original owner. Writer Lee thinks that’s a great hook, and agrees. The moment he does, she swings into action and calls the entire production team to film today.
Nan-gil goes to see what Na-ri is doing with her shovel, but she snaps at him to go back to his fun with the TV show ladies. She says she’s turning the ground into soil for a garden, and when he asks why she didn’t check with him as the home owner, she retorts that he never checks with her first about anything.
Angry now, Na-ri says that she’s decided to testify for Uncle, and have the marriage annulled. Nan-gil can’t really be mad since she’s fighting for their relationship, and he gently checks her hands for blisters. He tells her to wear gloves, but she snatches her hand back and calls him a weakling for needing gloves.
Yeo-joo explains that she wants to help Deok-bong get together with Na-ri — since Nan-gil is her stepfather, they can’t ever be together, so this is Deok-bong’s chance. In return for her help, Deok-bong can introduce her to some of his friends so she can find a rich guy to marry.
Nan-gil brings Na-ri some gloves despite her protests, and tells her that he’s filming the television show today. He says he’s doing it to help find her father, but she just sees that as more reason not to testify for him — if her father is alive, then Nan-gil can’t be her legal stepfather anyway.
She says that then they can get married and have a baby, and before Nan-gil can even process that, Young-gyu interrupts with his usual impeccable timing. Nan-gil has to go, and Na-ri glares at him as he heads back to the restaurant.
But he suddenly turns back and takes her hand, and takes her to her mother’s forest by the lake. He explains that he needs to tell her something that her mother wanted kept secret.
When Nan-gil had first come home and Mom had shown him the threats from Dada Finance, sh’d told him that her parents used to run a small orphanage near the lake. One night there was a fire, and all but one child had died. Rather than take responsibility, they left that child behind and fled to the U.S.
That child was Kwon Soon-rye — Secretary Kwon. Oh, this explains so much. Mom had told Nan-gil that neither of them ever forgot what her parents did, and that she has to protect the land the orphanage was on, no matter what.
Her dream was to let the forest grow, then donate the land, in memory of the children who died in that fire. Nan-gil had promised to help her protect her dream, and he takes that promise seriously.
Na-ri understands now why Nan-gil is so determined, but she admits that she’s still upset. She asks why Nan-gil is telling her this now, but he says she already knows. She reluctantly understands why he’s so passionate about saving this place.
Yeo-joo’s plan starts off with Na-ri seeing her and Deok-bong together, and Deok-bong scoffs that it’s not very original. Yeo-joo says it’s just a test, to see how Na-ri reacts, and if she’s interested at all.
They arrive at Hong Mandoo to find it swarming with television cameras, and Writer Lee freaking out because Nan-gil is gone. Luckily he and Na-ri are almost back, and Young-gyu hustles him inside.
Na-ri goes back to work on her garden, and Yeo-joo sends Deok-bong in to make his first move. Na-ri completely ignores him, so he picks up a shovel and starts to help her. On Yeo-joo’s advice, once Na-ri looks up at him, Deok-bong makes this weirdly awkward eye contact and moves closer.
Yeo-joo is upstairs remembering her little tutorial, and how she’d gotten flustered when she looked Deok-bong in the eyes. She tells herself not to waste time anymore on a man who wants someone else.
Deok-bong attempts the next step, casual touch, but when he reaches up to Na-ri’s hair she bats his arm away and he hops back a few steps. He seems happy when Na-ri tells him that Uncle has filed for an annulment, but he just asks if she’s really going to quit and move out here to farm.
He tells her to stop taking her upset out on the land, and come back to Seoul with him. Confused and upset, she follows him to his car, but says she’ll sit in the backseat when she sees Yeo-joo with him.
First, she goes over to the restaurant, and gives Nan-gil her mother’s phone back. She says that she feels as if he won’t be calling her anymore, so if she needs him, she’ll call Mom’s phone. She apologizes for adding to his stress, and says that they both need some time to think.
Curious, Deok-bong asks Yeo-joo what happened between her and Na-ri. Yeo-joo honestly tells him about stealing Dong-jin, and when he asks why, we see a flashback of Na-ri talking to a couple of her flight attendant colleagues. They’d been trash-talking Yeo-joo, and Na-ri had said that Yeo-joo just wants to be liked.
She’d told them to stop badmouthing Yeo-joo, unaware that Yeo-joo overheard the entire conversation. Now Yeo-joo says that even though Na-ri took her side, it upset her more than the girls who badmouthed her. It made her jealous, and want to compete with Na-ri.
She says that she was curious what kind of man would date Na-ri for nine years, and openly admits that she’s an evil bitch. Well, at least she knows, because that’s the worst excuse ever. Deok-bong says that it must be difficult for Na-ri to even look at Yeo-joo after that, and Yeo-joo says admiringly that Na-ri isn’t your average woman.
Filming begins for the TV show, and a trio of idols are brought in to taste the mandoo. They do a cute little intro, then Young-gyu stalls the shoot by looking straight at the camera, ha.
Yeo-joo stage-whispers wooing advice to Deok-bong on the drive back to town, as if Na-ri isn’t sitting right there. Na-ri is onto them, but she’s too despondent to really care.
Back at the restaurant, filming for the show goes well, then one of the idols reads the story behind the restaurant. She mentions that they’re looking for the original owner, who went missing one day years ago.
Uncle reports to CEO Bae’s lawyer that Na-ri might not testify on their side in the court proceedings against Nan-gil’s marriage to her mother. Wan-shik arrives, nervously telling CEO Bae that Kwon Deok-bong will be Nan-gil’s lawyer, which makes CEO Bae sit up in surprise.
They make Uncle call Na-ri to plead for her to testify on their side, but she stays silent. Uncle pretends that she’s agreeing to testify, for the benefit of the scary men in the room with him.
Deok-bong goes back to the restaurant that evening and confronts Nan-gil. He asks why Nan-gil hasn’t asked him to represent him at the trial, and Nan-gil says it’s because he’s after his land, too. Deok-bong tells him not to underestimate his feelings for Na-ri, making it clear that he’s waiting for Na-ri to come to him.
But Deok-bong proposes that they focus on the trial first. It’s in his best interest to win, since it would preserve Nan-gil and Na-ri’s relationship as stepfather and stepdaughter, and give him a chance with her.
Nan-gil goes inside, where his chefs tell him that they checked out the hospital, and confirmed Na-ri’s father’s death. He still wants to look into it himself, unwilling to let go of the hope that he’s alive. Young-gyu bounces into the middle of this tense scene, and slinks away when he meets three sets of death-glares, ha.
Deok-bong takes Na-ri out for coffee, and bluntly asks if she’s still considering dating him. She points out that she was never considering it, and he says gently that she’s mistaken about him. He thinks that in his attempt to seem confident, he accidentally came across as arrogant.
He says honestly that he really likes her, but he may have seemed impulsive and thoughtless. When Na-ri says that she didn’t misunderstand him, he perks up and asks her to reconsider dating him.
He changes the subject, and says that he’s also here as a lawyer, to ask her to testify for Nan-gil. He makes it clear that her testimony will win this case for whichever side she chooses, but that if she doesn’t testify at all, Nan-gil is almost sure to win.
Nan-gil and his chef sidekicks go to see the woman whose information Wan-shik handed over, who supposedly has Na-ri’s father’s death certificate. They find her working in a laundry, and though she tells them that Hong Sung-gyu died five years ago, she’s suspiciously nervous.
Nan-gil goes back to the restaurant that night and cries, unable to shake the memory of Na-ri’s father lying in a pool of his own blood. He answers when Na-ri calls on Mom’s phone, and she tells him that her final flight is tomorrow. She says that her mom had always promised to take her last flight with her, and asks him to take her place.
He agrees, and Na-ri points out that it’s his first flight. She admits that she’s already bought his ticket, and suggests they treat this as a little vacation before the trial. Nan-gil fights tears again, and softly says, “Okay.”
After hanging up, Nan-gil opens the safe in his desk drawer, and takes out a USB card.
The following morning he shows up at the airport as promised, and nearly suffers a panic attack from the crowds of people. He stops to take his medicine, but decides to power through it, since Na-ri is counting on him.
He feels better by the time he boards the plane and finds his seat. Na-ri greets him formally as his flight attendant, and he obediently nods as she gives instructions on sitting in an exit row. Aww, his happy smile is adorable.
She joins him after landing, and he complains that his first flight was scary. They agree to just play and have fun for the next twenty-four hours, and head out to enjoy the day.
Nan-gil and Na-ri head to the beach, where Na-ri calls attention to the fact that neither of them are doing very well with the trial looming closer. Nan-gil thanks her for his first flight, and she says they shouldn’t be distracted, and just enjoy the day.
As they walk along the shore, Nan-gil says that just as Eskimos have many words for snow, he has many words that mean Hong Na-ri. She asks for examples, and he lists things like pretending a slingshot strike doesn’t hurt, reading while walking, and dancing with butterflies.
Na-ri defends that kids do a lot of silly things, and Nan-gil teases that she was in college when she danced with the butterfly. Ha. They get into a shoving fight, and Nan-gil sweeps Na-ri up and pretends to drop her into the ocean.
Nan-gil thinks of several more words for Na-ri as they play — tripping while looking at clouds, losing a childhood home, digging in the frozen soil. “The most beautiful thing in the world, Hong Na-ri.”
Yeo-joo goes on a blind date that Deok-bong set up for her, and things are super awkward right from the start. He tells her that something is odd about all this, because Deok-bong doesn’t date, so for him to be chasing after a woman is very strange. She asks why Deok-bong doesn’t date, and he says that Yeo-joo looks just like “her.”
Na-ri decides that Nan-gil knows too much about her from watching her grow up, and thus he must die, ha. He says that only a person who loves without hope can know so much about another, and he loved her without hope for a very long time.
Na-ri asks why he chose a love like that, and he says that he had nothing, and it was better than nothing. He tells her that he doesn’t expect or want anything from her, that he’s happy just like this. Na-ri says that she’s not, and that she plans to testify for Uncle so that they can be together like any other couple.
The authorities show up at Dada Finance with a search warrant, here to investigate complaints of illegal loans. They seize everything they can get their hands on, while CEO Bae and Wan-shik watch from their secret observation room. They know that this is Nan-gil’s doing, because he’s the only one who could have provided proof of their illegal dealings.
Deok-shim runs into Deok-bong’s room to report that Nan-gil and Na-ri are on vacation together, which he’s already heard from Yeo-joo. Deok-bong tells her to knock from now on, then smiles and says that she must like Nan-gil a lot to come into his room for the first time ever.
Deok-shim complains that he’s too calm and must not really like Na-ri, but he tells her that when she’s an adult she’ll understand. He explains that their trip is a goodbye, which gives her something to think about.
Na-ri pouts that night when Nan-gil mentions that they have two rooms, hee. Talk turns to Mom, and Na-ri says that she wishes she could see Mom smile again. Nan-gil says that she’ll learn all of his darkest secrets at the trial, and that he thinks she should go and hear it all. But he tells her first that he’s been to prison, and a flashback shows us that Mom came to visit him once.
He’d been at peace, knowing that he was coming home once he got out. He’d bragged that he made even better mandoo than Mom did, and she’d left him with a sad little smile (and aww, it was Wan-shik who’d brought her).
Nan-gil says that he thinks Mom’s plans started with him, and that’s why he so desperately wants to protect her land. Na-ri says that she understands, so he can stop explaining.
But he goes on to say that he regrets calling her back that day, the day he confessed his love to her. Na-ri tells him to stop again, and goes to outside to think. He joins her, and she says sadly that their hearts are too different.
She asks what he wants her to do, and Nan-gil says that her trusts her to make the right decision. She says that she wants to find her father because if he’s alive, it will prove that she and Nan-gil aren’t related. Even after forgetting about him for years, now she longs to see him because of the man she loves.
She tells Nan-gil that she can’t be wise about this, so he says he’ll decide for her. He tells Na-ri that the land is hers, and asks her to help him not to lose it. She pushes past him to go inside, and he calls to her back, “Hong Na-ri. I love you. Even if I can never say it again, I will love you.”
The day of the trial comes too soon, and Dada Finance calls Na-ri as their witness. She takes her place at the stand, and prepares to testify. The lawyer asks her if her mother ever told her about her marriage to Go Nan-gil, or that she married him and transferred ownership of her land and restaurant to him, and Na-ri says that she didn’t.
He asks if she knew about her father’s debt, and she says she didn’t know. The lawyer asks if she thinks the marriage is null and void, and Na-ri looks over to Nan-gil. She remembers his promise to love her even if he can never say it again, and thinks to herself, “If we can’t even say we love each other, then let’s stop here.”
COMMENTS
I knew there had to be a reason why that particular piece of land was so important to Mom, and by extension to Nan-gil. It makes sense now that we know about the fire, and Mom’s dream to grow a great forest to commemorate the children who died and that her parents betrayed. I also understand why it’s so important to Nan-gil — not only is he also an orphan, but he’s idolized Na-ri’s mother his whole life. Taking on her dream is his way of repaying her for her kindness to him when he was young, and for helping save him from CEO Bae (and it also explains his statement to Na-ri that he won’t sell until a tree he planted by the lake grows tall). It’s not often that I agree with drama characters who set material concerns above love, but in this case, Nan-gil has a very noble reason for placing greater importance on saving the land than on his love for Na-ri.
It also explains why Secretary Kwon is so resentful of Na-ri’s mother, even after her death. From Secretary Kwon’s perspective, she was very nearly killed in a fire as a child, then the family that was supposed to protect her just up and fled the country and abandoned her. I can see why she puts all that resentment onto Mom, and though it’s misplaced, it’s not easy to let go of leftover hurt feelings from childhood. It’s understandable that she’d grow up with a lot of resentment and anger.
I don’t know that I’ve ever flip-flopped so much in regards to a second lead character, but Yeo-joo practically has me doing gymnastics. One episode I feel bad for her and just want her to find a man who loves her, and then the next episode I think she just needs to be alone with her evil self forever. I thought that maybe Deok-bong could help her see the error of her ways, but instead she’s egging him on in pursuit of a woman who has clearly and repeatedly told him that she’s not interested, of course in exchange for introductions to rich men. And there’s no guarantee that Na-ri will suddenly develop feelings for him even if Nan-gil remains her stepfather.
So I’m not terribly happy with either of them at the moment. Yeo-joo needs to back off of people who are in love with someone else, whether for herself or for anyone else. Deok-bong needs to evaluate why he’s so fixated on a woman he barely knows, who has told him from Day One that she’s never going to go out with him. And they both need to stay away from each other, at least until they’ve done some real hard soul-searching and learned why they consistently pursue unavailable people.
That said, I do like Deok-bong a lot, and I love how self-aware he is. For a guy to tell the woman he likes that he’s been trying too hard and made the wrong impression isn’t an easy thing to do, and I respect his honesty and ability to give up his ego. And on some level I even admire his tenacity, because although Na-ri has told him that she’s not interested in him in that way, he’s never come across as too pushy or aggressive in his pursuit of her. He just gently reminds her that he’s still there, and only whenever he sees things that aren’t going well with Nan-gil. As long as Deok-bong keeps backing off whenever Na-ri draws a line, I can’t fault him for giving it his best shot when he sees an opening, because at least he’s being honest and respectful about it, even if he is barking up the wrong tree.
But as for our leading couple — ugh, what a dilemma. And it’s especially difficult because I can understand both sides of the issue equally, and I see why both Na-ri and Nan-gil feel as they do. Nan-gil is deeply principled, and he made a promise to Mom to protect her land and her dream, no matter what. To do that, his marriage to her has to stay valid, so that he keeps ownership of the land. And his promise to Mom predates even his most casual relationship with Na-ri, so to him, the land and the forest are his first priority.
But for Na-ri, who places love above material things and who was never privy to her mother’s secret or her plans for the forest, she just wants to be with the man she loves. For that to happen, she has to testify against Nan-gil, and help get the marriage annulled. At least Na-ri has only one interest to protect — her own. Nan-gil seems like he’s being torn in two, between his promise to Mom and his love for Na-ri. Either way this turns out, he wins and he loses. I have no idea what Na-ri will do, but I have a feeling that whether she chooses to testify for or against Nan-gil, things are about to get a lot more complicated.
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1 hana
November 23, 2016 at 4:15 PM
I really can't feel sympathy for Yeo Joo. I understand her parents relied on her for money, a lot of families are like that, it does NOT excuse her behavior. She makes it her mission to date men that are taken, it wasn't just Nari. Also her reasoning for going after Dong Jin is ridiculous. Nari was the only person at work who was nice to her and because of that she wants to ruin her life? Okay fine at least Yeo Joo knows she's not a good person but just because you admit it that doesn't make your horrid behavior okay. I would also like to point out she has NEVER apologized for what she did. She even had the balls to say I did you a favor by taking Dong jin from you. Excuse me B****! Sadly I think the end game will be Dukbong and Yeo Joo *cringe*. I just really can't stand her. If she had been written with even a valid excuse or even maybe some conflicting emotions in her actions maybe I would feel different but I just can't when she obviously only cares about herself. She has proven she literally doesn't care about anyone or the pain she causes. She is truly a terrible person and you can't say boohoo her parents, she grew up poor. Not an excuse to steal a man at a womans funeral.
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Omomomo
November 23, 2016 at 5:16 PM
YJ'a behavior was obviously very shitty but let's not forget that it was Na-Ri's scumbag of a fiancé who fell for YJ in three seconds flat. Not trying to excuse YJ, but it always irritates me that the women get the preponderance of the blame in these circumstances. If she were friends with Na-Ri it would be another story, because that would be a betrayal of their friendship. As far as I'm concerned, she did do Na-Ri a favor (albeit inadvertently). So many kdramas where men treat women horribly and are then miraculously redeemed by the end. I'm all right with a female character being an unapologetically selfish b every once in a while.
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hana
November 23, 2016 at 5:24 PM
I'm not excusing Dong Jin at all, I wasn't happy with his actions either I'm glad Nari cut him off and never took him back but at least he apologized and seemed to have some genuine feelings for Yeo joo. He's gone so obviously I'm not going to talk about him in an episode like this but Yeo Joo is still around and seeing how she forgot Dong jin in the 5 minutes it took for her to get to the hospital I don't think she had a good enough reason to purposefully try to ruin Nari's relationship. That was always her intention whether Dongjin fell for her or not. What kind of person sets out with the motive to wreck a nine year relationship?
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lindl
November 23, 2016 at 6:00 PM
In my view, the answer is to condemn both men and women for bad behavior, not to condone the same behavior in women just because it's condoned in men.
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hana
November 23, 2016 at 6:20 PM
I hold both of them responsible for sure. Dong jin was wrong for cheating on Nari. Yeo Joo imo was a bit worse because she set out to seduce him. It wasn't like they met by chance and fell in love. Yeo Joo admitted she did it on purpose because she felt Nari had everything and she was jealous. She set out to ruin the relationship and gloated when she "won". The only time she felt any pain was when in her mind she "lost". It was all a game, she never loved Dong Jin. Nari grieved the end of her relationship to Dong jin, she cried and got drunk hell she even lost her eye sight due to stress!Yeo Joo was over the break up by the time she got to the hospital she hasn't grieved at all. Within one day she already is plotting and asking to be set up on dates. It proves she never even had feelings for Dong Jin. Is she even human? I wish she didn't have so much screen time. I also hate that she's gonna end up with Duk bong. I like his character and want him to find happiness but not with her.
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lindl
November 23, 2016 at 7:09 PM
I agree with all of your points.
Melissa
November 30, 2016 at 3:31 AM
I kind of disagree. Yes, Yeo Joo is a class A b*tch but she is definitely not worse than Dong Jin. The only difference was that Dong Jin reflected on his 9 year relationship and realized how hurtful his actions were. Yeo Joo has no such benchmark that she can compare her wrongdoings to and so her underhandedness makes sense. I'm actually super glad that they at least had enough courtesy to give her character the opportunity to talk about her inferiority complex over Na Ri.
What I DON'T like is how they are literally forcing Yeo Joo into Na Ri's face. She is there when she has no need nor business being there, going out of her way to the freaking countryside simply to cause minor waves and annoyances in Na Ri's life. She makes random decisions and they show random bits and pieces of her as an obvious bait into making us feel sorry for Yeo Joo. I think the character is a solid character...I just feel like the writers can't write their way out of a donkey's butt.
lolalarue
November 23, 2016 at 7:15 PM
I just wanted to also say that no matter what Dong Jin did, his behaviour doesn't excuse hers. Each person is responsible for their own actions. Even though you've said you're not trying to excuse her by the very fact of pointing at Dong Jin you are essentially deflecting the blame from Yeo Joo.
I think there are several reasons people aren't talking about Dong Jin. First and foremost is that he's not around anymore! He's not inserting himself into the picture and let's face it Na Ri should no longer have ANY reason at all to see Yeo Joo (not for DJ, nor her work). It's the hanging around that personally enrages me. That feeling is exacerbated by the fact that Yeo Joo is unapologetic and has shown absolutely no remorse or growth. If we must contrast this with Dong Jin, he at least admitted his mistakes, apologised, let Na Ri go and had intended to take 'responsibility' for Yeo Joo until she managed to burn that relationship beyond saving. He at least had genuine feelings, while she did not.
He is not in my face, while she is.
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lolalarue
November 23, 2016 at 6:08 PM
Totally agree. Yeo Joo is just not going to happen for me, stop trying to make her happen. Personally I don't think Yeo Joo has given up on Deok Bong. I think she's using this to get close to him (despite her mirror convo) and leverage that closeness for profit (somehow).
I really despise this trend of excusing terrible behaviour on the part of women in response to 'sexism'. This behaviour is terrible irrespective of sex. Dong Jin is just as culpable, but as @Hana says below at least he apologised. Yeo Joo is constantly unapologetic and in Na Ri's face using her for whatever the new agenda is. I wish we could cut her off but instead I just roll my eyes and skip ahead.
I really miss the days when Na Ri shut Yeo Joo up with a cutting remark and I wish she'd throw her out to sleep in the cold when she shows up at her door. Na Ri isn't even visiting her own friends why is she letting this user hang around? Yes she has more important things to deal with but send her elsewhere?
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Omomomo
November 23, 2016 at 6:24 PM
But that's just my point. Dong Jin isn't just as culpable - he is much, much more so. I don't excuse Yeo Joo's behavior - as I said, it was really shitty. But what Dong Jin did was unforgivable and he got off way too lightly. But, you know, how nice for him that 'at least he apologized' and now gets some kind of redemption.
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hana
November 23, 2016 at 6:33 PM
Yeah it is nice when you show normal human emotions and have remorse for your actions. You do get some kind of redemption when you repent and accept the consequences for your actions. Dong jin did that, he realized he was wrong, he apologized and he left Na ri. Yeo Joo feels no remorse, has never apologized and continues to insert herself in Naris life for no reason other then because it may benefit her. What has Yeo Joo done to redeem her?
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lolalarue
November 23, 2016 at 6:45 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Omomomo
November 23, 2016 at 7:32 PM
I don't disagree; my frustration is directed at the writing in this show. Once again, we have a situation in which a man cheats on his girlfriend, yet whereas his character is allowed some redemption the 'other woman' is presented as a shameless man-stealing hussy. I just find it tiresome.
hana
November 23, 2016 at 7:38 PM
I agree that it is the writing of the character, thats why I said I wish they had written her differently and she had shown a bit of remorse or had some conflict in her choices within herself. But she doesn't. I don't understand why they wrote her this way. I think the show believes they are showing her actions as being comedy when it's not funny at all. Nothing she has done is funny. It's not cute when she forces her presence in Nari's home. The scene when Yeo Joo pushes Duk shim against the wall is done in slow-mo like we are supposed to be impressed. All it did was make me roll my eyes. Both Yeo Joo and Duk shim are written very poorly and I don't understand why when I think Nan Gil and Duk bong are written very well. The loud friend is also very annoying to me. But since I can only basis my judgement on what is written thats what I will do.
lolalarue
November 23, 2016 at 8:59 PM
@Omomomo and @hana - 10000000% agree to the concept that the writing is at fault here. She is written terribly and it is incredibly sexist. It is tiresome and frankly I don't understand why as @Hana said that they wrote her this way. I just can't have any empathy/sympathy for her. She is written as an irredeemable and 'shameless man-stealing hussy'. That's not funny? So why does that seem to be the end game? Just mind boggling.
Also mind boggling, the way the little sister is written. It's not quirky to stalk someone, sneak into their house and run people off roads. High pitched screaming to get your way isn't endearing. I find myself feeling sorry for her in other moments and then they just ruin her characterisation by having her be mentally unsound with no real consequence for her actions.
paramount
November 23, 2016 at 9:25 PM
i agree that it seems like dukbong & yeo joo are end game which i also hate. i feel like if you're going to give an "evil" character a happy ending, it should be one of personal growth & self-realization instead of "hey she found her rich man & got what she wanted!!"
the only consequences for her actions have been her co-workers being rude to her (& they were already like that before she pursued dong jin).
even if someone gets hit with karma for their bad decisions later, we aren't always there to see it in real life. i want to see sweet justice via dramas!
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Lessa
November 24, 2016 at 12:56 AM
I also think that Deok Bong and Yeo Joo will be end game, even though it makes absolutely no sense. I feel sorry for Deok Bong. I wonder what mistakes in his past life he did to deserve eternal damnation with that kind of girl. Sigh. Poor, poor Deok Bong.
Im starting to miss Do Jin, I hope he comes back to take Yeo Joo to Hong Kong. PLEASE!
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2 Lord Cobol
November 23, 2016 at 5:14 PM
I know watching kdramas takes willing suspension of disbelief, but a plane with TWO empty seats next to Nan-gil !?
And master schemer Yeo-joo is too dense to see where her scheme with Duk-bong is headed??
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FWIW, I think the last time I saw ANY empty seats was Dec 2001 (when air traffic was still messed up after 9-11) and I was on an Embraer "regional" jet with about 40 seats and I was the ONLY passenger.
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endo
November 23, 2016 at 5:21 PM
Yes. It happens. When we went to Korea. Of all our 6 flights. We have 2 flights that have empty seats beside us.
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hana
November 23, 2016 at 5:36 PM
I was on a flight to China before that was almost empty. Ive been on plenty of flights that weren't completely full.
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PakalanaPikake
November 23, 2016 at 11:05 PM
Lord C:
Not only TWO empty seats, but two empty seats WITH EXTRA LEG ROOM! ;-)
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Melissa
November 30, 2016 at 3:39 AM
lol i'm not sure where you flew to, but I've been in half empty economy class coaches several times. Once while flying to Canada from India, I was the only person in my entire isle. I turned up the chair arms and straight up lay down on the seats and went to sleep. I was later awoken by the stewardess to give me my lunch and then dinner. It was ultimate.
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3 SuShin
November 23, 2016 at 5:39 PM
This is the first time I see Nan-Gil as vulnerable, he's literally torn between his own feelings. That crying scene has so much impact and I just want his pain to come to an end. He was perfectly fine when he can only admire Na-Ri from afar but now that he is with her he's not even OKAY- bittersweet-love. Na-Ri last words in this episode can be interpreted in both ways, to stop loving each other and stay stepdad-stepdaughter forever or to stop being related legally and lose everything including the chance to be able to reunite ever again. I'm also torn, I want Nan-Gil to get both the woman he loves for so long and the land he cherishes as mom's precious memory. Do I expect too much from you, show?
As for Deok-Bong, I think he deserves better. He's not a super nice guy but at least he's never hurt anyone on purpose. To get what he wants, he tries to get it forthrightly. In contrast, Yeo-Joo is full of scheme. She's trying to manipulate everyone around her because she can never manipulate her own life. In the process of getting what she wants, she knows exactly who will get hurt yet she still go on telling herself that she has the most rightful reason to do so.
Now that everyone points out Yeo-Joo looks exactly like Deok-Bong's ex, makes me wonder his encounter with her coz he didn't seem to care or even recognize her as 'my-ex-who-betray-me look alike'. There's more to his side of story and I'm so curious.
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crazyahjummafan
November 24, 2016 at 4:21 AM
"That crying scene has so much impact and I just want his pain to come to an end."
That scene really hit me. Kim Young Kwang did a really fantastic job there. I wanted a certain magic tablet to draw me into the drama so that I could hug and comfort him.
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4 Misskfans
November 23, 2016 at 5:51 PM
YJ is this typical bitch who love attention. I hope she will receive bad ending. She annoyed me soo much. Yup, she admit she a bad person so please go away. Stop ruining good person life. Nari stood uo for her so she repay by stealing her bf?!! What a joke
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lolalarue
November 23, 2016 at 6:15 PM
Honestly Yeo Joo is the archtype of 'bad femininity', isn't she? She conforms to her cultures standards of beauty and callously uses them to profit and make herself feel better (at the expense of everyone else). She doesn't even like the guys she manages to seduce and she certainly victimizes their partners. She basically defines the term 'b$tch'.
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5 lunatic4kd
November 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM
Wearing and running in high heeled boots on the beach. Hmmm....don't think I'll try it!
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6 lindl
November 23, 2016 at 6:04 PM
I was so in love with this drama and now it's beginning to pall. Too much Yeo-joo, and I'm not really convinced by the central conflict between the leads. Also, why does everyone in a drama have to look like someone else in their love interest's past (or have to have met his or her future love interest, unknowingly, as a child)? These things hardly ever happen in real life. And when they do, it's no big deal.
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maripaz
November 25, 2016 at 2:33 AM
I actually like yeo Joo more now that she's showing an honest side to deok bong, not that I like her character, but compared to.before, she's more interesting. I'm also not convinced with the central conflict. This trial isn't an end all be all is it? Can't she testify for nan Gil , help him figure out a way to get Dada finance off their backs and keep the land, and then figure out the step dad thing? Wasn't that a plan at one point? Of course, love rain centered a 20 episode drama around the "oh no, our parents love each other so we can't" conflict that sassy go go solved with one line: "I'll just move to my other parents family register."
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Ally
December 15, 2016 at 4:43 AM
I'm glad someone mentioned Love Rain. There is so much similarity between several scenes and dialog, esp in episode 8, that it's almost annoying. However, it was the first movie where I was introduced to Kim Young Kwang! Love the crying seen he does here. He's not the best actor, but I don't like the "flower boy" look and he is more believable as a normal, albeit very attractive, person.
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7 Nana
November 23, 2016 at 6:38 PM
I'm trying not to lose interest because l was really invested...however now l'm not as excited about the show. I wish we saw nari develop her feelings more for him, l don't buy that's she's already in love with him. Also where is the comedy? I'm comparing this show to my wife is having an affair, where it's drama but also manages to pack in quality humor. I haven't given up but we will see...
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hellocam
November 23, 2016 at 6:56 PM
I feel the same way :(
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kethysk
November 24, 2016 at 8:25 AM
Glad I'm not the only one.
I have said several times that I really love how assertive Na-Ri is; I LOVE strong independent women with a good head on their shoulder. I also believe in REALLY liking someone straight off the bat, like you and him just immediately click/bond.
However, I really can't seem to believe how "in love" she is with Nan-Gil. it's not so much because we don't have a properly defined time line (i.e. how much time has really passed since she 1st met him at the house? Does anyone know???) but also because she really truly doesn't act or look like she is.
sure, she SAYS it at every opportunity. but her actions are not those of a woman in love. It looks more like she's writing a guide book about HOW to be in love and trying to articulate her body through it. There is a chemistry between them but now, I feel that it gets ruined with her long "This is how we're gonna proceed" monologues about love.
So, no, I'm not giving up on this show yet, but I'm becoming less and less convinced the more Na-Ri talks on and on... Nan-Gil's the only one's whose feelings I find believable, and even there, I am at odds with his puppy-in-love behaviour with Na-Ri... Where are you, Dear Self-Assured Confident Man???
here's to hoping it picks up (?)...
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pickledplumtree
November 24, 2016 at 7:28 PM
Yes, I miss the funny and although it would probably happen to me too, bc KYK, but Na Ri sure dove head first into this love after her love (or if not love the whole time, then relationship) of 9 years ended.
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8 silentkecik
November 23, 2016 at 6:55 PM
I wish to have some of Deok-bong's character that being honest to the woman that he likes. I don't have the courage and I think I will embarrassed myself in front of the person that makes my heart skip a few beats.
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V
November 23, 2016 at 7:29 PM
Hope it works out for you. ❤
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9 BossyPixie
November 23, 2016 at 9:18 PM
Nan-gil's struggle between his commitment to Mom and his love for Na-RI is absolutely heartrending. I can understand why he can't let go of the land for Na-ri. Mom is the only person in his whole life, up until just recently, who has loved him. To break the commitment he made to her would be tantamount to denying that love. Whereas with Na-ri, he has lived most of his life loving her from afar. I believe he thinks he can just continue like that. I think he's deceiving himself there. Also, he may not fully believe that Na-ri truly loves him or will continue to do so when she learns all about him. Nan-gil has a very low self image, he see's only the bad things he has done, and I think he feels he doesn't deserve Na-ri's love. Also, he many see protecting the land as a way to atone for his wrongs.
As for the end scene, I think that Na-ri will testify in favor of Nan-gil. Na'ri is not a vengeful or mean spirited type of person. We've seen that she can see situations from the other person's point of view, for example her previous defense of Yeo-joo to their coworkers. I think that she will understand why Nan-gil is so committed to protecting the land and will honor that, even if she doesn't like it. My guess is that we will get a few episodes of them mooning over each other wistfully and trying to deny that they really love each other. Then, I think that Dad will be found. Most likely, he and Mom never got divorced, making Nan-gil's marriage to her invalid.
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lindl
November 24, 2016 at 12:09 AM
Thank you for your first paragraph. It's the most compelling explanation of the central conflict that I've read. Just watching the last two episodes hasn't been enough to get me invested. Maybe it's because I lost interest every time Yeo-joo appeared on my screen.
I agree with all the points (and all the guesses) in your second paragraph.
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crazyahjummafan
November 24, 2016 at 4:24 AM
Like what you wrote.
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10 paramount
November 23, 2016 at 9:34 PM
i just want to say that despite enjoying this drama & the main couple + dukbong, i honestly don't understand how nari progressed to loving nan-gil so fast or why dukbong even likes nari.
i've totally just accepted these things as fact & it doesnt necessarily keep me from being immersed in the story... but other people seem to have indicated feeling similarly so i'm glad i'm not alone!
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kethysk
November 24, 2016 at 8:26 AM
I second that sentiment !
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11 PakalanaPikake
November 23, 2016 at 11:02 PM
Thanks for the recap, LollyPip!
Deok-bong has some questions for Secretary Kwon, such as why his grandfather would make a gift of land to Na-ri’s mother when she was only fifteen years old. He asks her to find out and she wonders how she could know what happened in 1975, and Deok-bong asks how she knew what year it was. HA, busted.
It makes me wonder whether Na-Ri's Mom is an illegitimate child or grandchild of Deok-bong's grandfather. It could be that the folks she remembered as her parents actually were not her parents.
Or perhaps grandfather had a little fling with a minor, and the land way a payoff in lieu of a paternity suit...
Great catch re: Secretary Kwon's spilling of the beans and outing herself. LOL.
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patinalee
November 24, 2016 at 12:02 AM
Perhaps DB's grandfather had a hand (unintentional?) in the fire that destroyed the orphanage and was sorry about it. Gifting a piece of the land to Mom to be maintained as a sort of memorial to the dead orphans may be his way of atonement for the unfortunate incident.
Purely speculative of course, unsupported by anything shown so far. :-P
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12 dany
November 23, 2016 at 11:25 PM
So much angst in this episode. ..:(
I am so invested in this show and I didn't even plan to watch it.
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13 lolalarue
November 24, 2016 at 12:49 AM
I have been very vocal about how much I dislike Yeo Joo. But I think @Omomomo has pinpointed exactly why I dislike her. Writer sexism. She is not allowed to have a single redeeming trait except that she's got 'bad' parents. Not an excuse show. Why does Dong Jin get redeemed but Yeo Joo remains conniving to the end. She has been written as a completely vile person, unlike Dong Jin who was able to be redeemed at least in my eyes. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's gone (I'll miss your face Kim Ji Hoon) but I'm happy he's out of my lovely Nan Gil/Na Ri couple venn diagram.
I really wish Yeo Joo was given that much depth. I think Jo Boah must be a fantastic actress because even though I really, really despise Yeo Joo and want her to disappear from Na Ri's life, I'm actively searching for another Jo Boah series to watch. I'm thinking of Surplus Princess. I hope it's good.
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emzino
November 24, 2016 at 3:46 AM
please don't watch Surpluss Princess, that drama was good but the second lead syndrome was CRUCIAL just saying, you should watch Shut Up Flower Boy Band, she's adorable in that drama!
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pickledplumtree
November 24, 2016 at 7:33 PM
Agreed! Shut UP Flower Boy Band is one of my favs! I loved how the show revolved around the relationship of the bandmates more than even the romance. Go for it!
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mary
November 24, 2016 at 5:23 AM
Please watch Surplus Princess so you can meet applebutt :3
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silentkecik
November 24, 2016 at 5:29 AM
*smirking*
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pickledplumtree
November 24, 2016 at 7:33 PM
Of course. Watch both!
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pickledplumtree
November 24, 2016 at 7:36 PM
@Mary I feel like you are a little Song Jae Rim promoter sprite, hiding in wait of any possible opportunity to spread the joy of applebutt.
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mary
November 25, 2016 at 5:17 PM
It's the applebot A.I.
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pickledplumtree
December 10, 2016 at 7:42 PM
XD
RLD
November 24, 2016 at 3:07 PM
I think the character of Yeo Joo is hilarious. Yes, she is an immature Bee-awtch. But, this actress has made her funny, as well as infuriating. I hope they write in a "pivotal" moment for her, where all the crap she has done comes down on her hard enough that she "gets it". There is no excuse for her behavior, but, she is very entertaining!
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lolalarue
November 24, 2016 at 6:51 PM
For me the comical aspects always seem to come out when she's interacting with Na Ri, and that tends to infuriate me. It was much more palatable when Na Ri was shutting down all her antics.
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maripaz
November 25, 2016 at 2:40 AM
Watch it!!! I wasn't a fan of Jo boa when I had only seen her in shut up flower boy band (not an anti fan, just meh on her character). I loved her in surplus princess! She was annoying at first, but in character, and id just keep in mind the show was drastically cut at the last minute so the last two or so episodes are just odd. Don't expect cohesiveness. Just enjoy the ride! : )
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14 mushmush
November 24, 2016 at 1:26 AM
I like to think the line about "digging into frozen land" is also about nan gil himself. He has resigned himself to be a steward of his "moms" dream and land and loving na ri from afar is all he allows himself, so you could say he's "frozen" as well.
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15 emzino
November 24, 2016 at 3:51 AM
I can't be the only one that wants Yeo Joo to be with Deok Bong..... I'm not sure what Deok Bong's ideal type is but Yeo Joo's ideal fits DB and it would be a pleasant change to see her actually TRY to get a guy her own without any cheating included, or maybe I'm just a little biased because Lee Soo Hyuk and Jo Bo Ah are my favorite actor/actress and I've always wanted them to be in a drama together haha
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silentkecik
November 24, 2016 at 5:47 AM
Ah.. the second lead syndrome.. *sigh* I can't never get away with this disease.
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kethysk
November 24, 2016 at 8:34 AM
it's perplexing but after ep 10, I DO want Yeo Joo to be with Deok Bong too !! their twisted personalities mixed with their brash honestly would make them go soooo well together !!!
My reason for not liking Yeo Joo was beyond the "she stole Na-Ri's boyfriend". After all, you don't steal someone that doesn't want to be stolen. Na-Ri's Ex SHOULD have known better and it's all his fault. When you're in a relationship, YOU are responsible. Am I making excuses for Yeo Joo? No. As Na-Ri's coworker, she shouldn't have enticed him either...
Point: it's not about the cheating. it's about the CHILDISH PETULANCE and her CONSTANT PRESENCE around Na-Ri that truly bothers me. As in, giiiiiirl, seriously, don't keep getting involved with Na-Ri !! Why is she ALWAYS at her house? I don't know how Na-Ri handles it!!
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16 crazyahjummafan
November 24, 2016 at 4:31 AM
There were 3 scenes that I particularly liked in this episode.
1) The first was the scene where Young Kyu hears Nari telling Nangil that she wants to marry him and have his child. He then
calls her Ms Hong, only to quickly change it to Mrs Ko. Hee.
2) Their walk on the beach, where Nangil tells Nari that eskimos have different names for snow, and he has different names for Hong Nari...and proceeds to list down all the times he has seen her. I particularly like the one where he said "The HNR that talks to a tree. And later demonstrates just how she did it. So cute.
3) His crying scene. Done very well.
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j9
November 24, 2016 at 7:00 AM
I completely agree with you on those scenes. Young Kyu''s s reactions when he interupts them by accident tickles me.
2) I also LOVED his demonstration of her fusing at and kicking the tree, knowing she was probably drunk that time.
3) Yes, his crying scene was done really well. He didn't go way overboard and loudly boo hood as if someone had just died in front of him (like I see in so many dramas- one particular old Kdrama that''s still popular comes to mind).
His silent crying over this whole predicament was heart wrenching. KYK stayed true to Nan Gil's personality.
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pickledplumtree
November 24, 2016 at 7:39 PM
I've seen the overly dramatic crying so many times that I can't figure out which drama comes to your mind! Can you reveal it? I'm curious.
PS Yes I also agree those songs were the best!
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pickledplumtree
November 24, 2016 at 7:40 PM
scenes* were the best. Although I loved others as well. :D
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17 ilchul
November 24, 2016 at 9:05 AM
thank you for thee recap!! :)
finally we know why this land is so important, but still why did Deok Bong's father gave it to Na Ri's mother?!! does he have anything to do with the fire or was he just with kind heart which I can't believe based on this family's greed history!!
I can understand both Nan Gil and Na Ri's situation and desicions and that puts me in a dellima myself, I want them to be togethr and the only way for that is for the marriage to get nullified but if that happens then they'll lose the land and the bad guys will win and Nan Gil will be looked at as a con-artist which he isn't and will be likely punished which makes me lose my mind thinking about all that!! what to do?!! *sight* actually I'd like for Na Ri to stand by Nan Gil's side in th trial though that would keep the obstacle for them to be together for now, maybe that will give them time to find a way out of all this without losing thee land to the bad guys!! and yes I said before that I don't want Na Ri's father to show his face but now I changed my mind and he better show me that face of his or I'll kill him myself and I'm sure he's alive but either hiding out of fear from the gangsters or following their orders so he'd escape from paying them and in both ways he's a useless father and he better be useful for once in his life and help Na Ri and Nan Gil to be able to get together and for Nan Gil to top feeling the guilt of causing his death (though that wasn't really his mistake) when he's still living!!
I really like Deok Bong, he's actually a nice man who doesn't want to show that and we can see that the more we seee of him and I think I'd be ok with him ending up with that hoobae!! I'm not really mad at her since her plan to help him get closer to Na Ri isn't really going anywhere other than getting her closer to him!! LOL so as long as she's not harmful in anyway to my OTP she can do whatever she wants for all I care about!!
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18 Ajuma
November 25, 2016 at 10:54 PM
Generally, I find Korean dramas to be exaggerated and overacted. But I like Soo Ae as an actress since Mask last year. She has that X factor that draws audience to her. However, since this is a drama about romance , the male lead is also very important.
If you look at those popular Korean dramas about romance that are very popular even though the story is so so, the Korean audience is usually crazy about the oppas, especially the fair skin and the flowery type. Kim Yong Kwong is working hard in this show. Unfortunately, he is not so well accepted in Korea maybe due to his past remarks. Sigh.
I don't know why the story becomes so messy after the 3rd episode. The editing of the scenes is also a problem. Jump here and there. Hopefully, the story will become better in the last 6 episodes and the Korean audience who ran away can come back and give it another chance.
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19 ObsessiveCompulsive
November 27, 2016 at 12:51 AM
I for one am all for YJ's redemption. I think rather then looking at it as though the writer is giving "bad behavior" a pass I think we should look at it from a growth point of view. I would rather watch shows in which good/bad character have some growth and change instead of staying unmoved and stagnant. I hope YJ and DB will be together, and i hope they have an relationship of depth. I hope the writer gives them just as much care/thought as they do with the main leads.
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20 syntax
November 27, 2016 at 1:58 PM
Who is Kim Young-kwang's sponsor? How on earth does he get so many main role gigs with his horrible acting and personality??
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21 ProperIntro
November 28, 2016 at 10:07 PM
I think the problem I have with Yeo Joo isn't the cheating is that she doesn't give space or respect to Na Ri. She showed up to Na Ri 's memorial dinner/time of morning for her dead mom, because she was afraid the ex would would get back with Na Ri. She keeps showing up and she has no chemistry with Duk Bong. I hope she remains single and has a change of personality and moves on with her life. The writing has been getting weak, I got really bored with this episode. I don't know where the story line is going without the father and gangster drama. They should focus on the ptsd, treatment, and food with romance.
Also, the sister should have been disciplined for stalking, it's not that cute or funny. She's rewarded by working with him instead.
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