Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 15
by HeadsNo2
Our heroine finally does some stepping up this hour, and it couldn’t come at a more welcome time. Just when we thought we’d lost our eyes and ears into this strange world of princes and transparent political machinations, we get a semblance of that back with the resurgence of Su as a thinking, decision-making human being. All this action will probably end in high stakes death threats for her, but what else is new?
EPISODE 15 RECAP
Given the choice between saving Su or remaining faithful to the late King Hyejong, So drops his sword and drops to his knees before Yo. With tears in his eyes, So grits out his allegiance to the new KING JEONGJONG, third monarch of Goryeo.
We get a flashback of a young Crown Prince Mu, an equally young Astronomer Choi, and a tiny So (before he was scarred). Astronomer Choi had reassured Mu that he had the star of a king, but he’d asked Mu what he would do if his lifeline didn’t last very long.
The young prince had claimed that the length of his life wasn’t as important as who he spent his final days with, proving that he had a good temperament even as a child. That’s when So Lite chimed in to say that he wanted to become king too, and Astronomer Choi told him not to worry—he would also become king.
In the present, Astronomer Choi looks down at the pitiful corpse of King Hyejong and calls upon the other princes to respectfully see to his remains. Elsewhere in the room, Su whispers for So to rise to his feet, claiming that all of this happened because of her.
In answer, So drags her out of the palace, only to be stopped by ninth prince Won. Won delightfully informs him that under the new king’s command, if Su were to somehow disappear from Damiwon, then he’d spread the news throughout Goryeo that she poisoned the late King Hyejong.
There’s turmoil over at tenth prince Eun’s home as King Jeongjong seeks to solidify his power by ridding himself of his pesky brother. Eun and his wife have already escaped though, so the king returns to the palace to commend Wook on his evil deeds. Apparently, it was Wook who advised him to use Su to keep So in check.
The king’s uncle, Minister of the Left Wang Shik-ryeom, bids Wook to kneel before his new king. Wook keeps his poker face on as he does so, repeating the same chants of “Manseh!” as So did earlier.
King Jeongjong sits on the throne he coveted for so long, decreeing that Eun must be found in order for their plot (of making Eun’s grandfather seem as though he was planning a revolt, or something) to work. I love how Wook is all, “If only we knew a hunting dog skilled in matters like these…”
Eun’s grandfather Wang Gyu is caught and executed, along with other members of Eun’s family. Queen Sinmyeongsunseong watches the butchery and smiles her biggest smile yet, since she couldn’t be any prouder of her son. I’m officially convinced that this woman is the devil.
However, what King Jeongjong says next takes her by surprise: He wants her out of palace affairs, which he’ll take care of from now on. She can just live comfortably, which is not what the new Queen Mother wants.
She’s especially incensed that King Jeongjong is even entertaining the idea of keeping So around, despite Jeongjong’s claims that So saved his life by holding back when he stabbed him on the edge of the cliff. He gives So the mission Wook not-so-subtly hinted at: Find Eun and kill him. If he doesn’t, then he’ll be putting Baek-ah, Astronomer Choi, and even Su in danger.
After So’s gone, the king proves that he’s not grateful at all to So for saving his life, and finds the sympathy So showed him upsetting. As to why he’s keeping him around, he tells his mother that it’s more fun to try taming him for now.
So tells Grand General Park and Astronomer Choi of the new mission the king’s given him, but leaves out the part about killing both Eun and his wife. Since Soon-deok is General Park’s daughter, he warns So that he won’t stand by and let his daughter get caught up in a fight amongst princes.
Later, So pulls Su aside to tell her that it’s now common knowledge that the king died from mercury poisoning, but no one knows who the culprit is. He wants her to lay low for the time he’ll be out of the palace, and tells her to go to Astronomer Choi if she’s in danger.
Su knows enough to guess that she’s been used against So for the mission he has to go on, but he simply pats her on the head and tells her not to worry about it before he pulls her into a farewell embrace.
Despite knowing that only she and Chae-ryung attended to the king, and despite Chae-ryung’s immediately suspicious protestations that it most definitely wasn’t her, Su doesn’t suspect her in the slightest. There goes that.
But when Chae-ryung tells her that Eun’s entire family was killed, Su has a dramatic flashback to what So just told her about having to leave the palace to hunt down a traitor. She knows now that he was talking about Eun and panics.
She shuffles around listlessly afterward, only seeming to come back to reality when Soon-deok approaches her, disguised as a court lady. Since Eun trusts Su, they tell her that they only need to hide in her room until they can prepare safe passage out. Su promises to do what she can to help them.
Poor Eun still thinks that he can get help from his brothers, but it’s Su who puts a stop to that line of thinking when she reveals that So’s been sent to find him. She carefully sidesteps around telling him what’s happened to his family, and thankfully, he’s blissful in his ignorance. Soon-deok seems to know much more, but of course, she’d be mad to tell him now.
Evil minister Park Young-gyu is in attendance as Woo-hee tries to broker a deal with the new king for the benefit of the starving people of the Later Baekje region. King Jeongjong seems wary of her claims that she no longer has revenge on her mind, and proposes a different deal, one that would be more beneficial to him. (We don’t get to hear what it is.)
While at a tavern with So, Baek-ah makes it clear that he doesn’t trust or respect their new king, and worries whether So actually plans to capture Eun and take him back. “You don’t trust me either,” So says ruefully, causing Baek-ah to backpedal quickly. He’s managed to track down four boats that Eun and his wife could take, but he doesn’t know which of them they will take yet.
Woo-hee finds the two half-brothers and exchanges pleasant greetings with So, who knows that Su will be happy to see her. But it’s when Woo-hee says that she’ll return to the gyobang that Baek-ah sputters, and he doesn’t seem soothed when she tells him that she won’t be a gisaeng, but just a dance instructor. As they talk, the sinister Minister Park watches.
So confronts Wook over the very suspicious events surrounding their late brother’s death, explaining that the plot to poison him with mercury for two years was much too detailed for someone like Won to come up with. It could’ve only been Wook, and the fact that the king hasn’t killed him means that he’s working with Jeongjong.
Wook forces a smile as he claims that So has always been suspicious of him, and throws back So’s accusation that he killed their brother with one of his own: “How about you? Are you going to become the king’s dog and kill Eun?”
He claims that they’re both just struggling to survive, causing So to ask what changed him. “I did not poison the late king,” Wook finally says. It doesn’t seem like So believes him.
Since Su’s been called to tend to him, Jeongjong asks her what she would do if she were tortured for a confession about the mercury in the bathwater, which she denies having any part of. Su manages to win some points when she says that she would blame it on him, even if she died doing so.
Impressed, King Jeongjong interestingly notes that she’s the same as she used to be when she was younger (interesting because no one seems to mention that the actual Su had a past), and assures her that he won’t get rid of the only leverage he has over his brothers.
With that in mind, Su asks him to divulge who the real culprit was just to sate her curiosity—she won’t be able to tell anyone anyway, since all Jeongjong would have to do is accuse her of killing the king to make her disappear.
Before he can answer, Wook’s entrance is announced, and Jeongjong smiles wickedly as he says that Wook arrived right on time. Su just got her answer, and she can’t control her expression as she turns to look at Wook. Jeongjong just fans the flames by telling Wook that Su is simply dying to know who poisoned the king, and gets a kick out of Wook falsely claiming that the king died of an illness.
Once they’re outside, Su seems to already know the answer when she asks Wook whether he had any hand in the poisoning. It seems like she’s testing to see whether he’d lie to her directly, but the scene abruptly cuts to Queen Sinjeong tearing into Wook for his latest string of traitorous decisions.
“Is it because of Hae Su?” the queen asks. Much to her dismay, Wook answers, “Yes. I did think of her. It is because of her. Su said I tried to have everything for myself, and that that was wrong. But what of it? I tried to protect my family and my heart. What’s so wrong about that? Mother, you told me to live a proper life, and I lived my life that way. So… why am I still lonely?”
With tears in his eyes and on his cheeks, Wook claims that he’s already chosen the path he has to follow. He will get what he wants even if it means taking a different path than what he once intended: “I will no longer lose what I desire like a fool.”
Cut back to him and Su (oh, it was a flashback) as he flatly tells her, “I have done nothing wrong.”
So finds Su after hearing about her meeting with the king, though she assuages his fears by telling him that the king has no plans to kill her or kick her out of the palace. So knows it’s because the king plans to use her to manipulate him, but he’s just happy she’s safe for now.
In stark contrast to Wook, So comes clean to Su about being sent to hunt Eun down when she broaches the topic. Even though the king wants Eun dead, So says he’ll do whatever he can to help Eun escape, though that doesn’t jive with the premonition Su had about So cutting Eun down in cold blood.
So wonders whether he can keep trusting Astronomer Choi, since he didn’t even know that Yo would become king. Choi admits as much, but claims that Yo was born with the star of a traitor, so there must have been some deviation along the way that caused him to change course and become king. They’re not going to try and blame this on Su, are they?
Wook keeps repeating the words of warning Su once gave him about So, since he now feels like her prophecy is coming true—everything is becoming So’s, and Wook can’t stop him. “What should I do?” he wonders.
Despite Soon-deok’s best(?) efforts to blend in as a court lady, Jung is able to recognize her by her quick reflexes. Luckily, he’s Team Eun, and joins in on their plans to get Eun and his wife safely out of the palace. Since all the ways out are closed, Su remembers the secret tunnel beneath the palace.
Soon-deok wants to see her father before she leaves, but Su doesn’t think that’s a good idea—it’d put her too close to So. Soon-deok asks why Su doesn’t trust So considering the relationship they have, seeming to trust So more than Su does.
Her words, along with King Taejo’s “Do not get so hung up on the future that you lose what you have now” advice causes Su to admit that Soon-deok is right about trusting So. She volunteers to fetch Astronomer Choi herself, which she was reluctant to do before because of his ties to So, and ends up leaving him a note when he isn’t in his tower. That’s safe.
Jung and Soon-deok work together to clear the rocks blocking the secret tunnel, and he seems mildly discomfited by her constantly brushing her sweat-soaked hair away. He gives her a hairpin of Su’s to hold her hair back, causing her to wonder if the pin belongs to the woman he loves.
He smiles as he admits that the hairpin’s owner risked her life for him, specifically remembering the time Su saved him from those thugs in the forest by waving a stick around. Admitting that he fell in love with her when he saw her sing, he now admits that he hopes that she’ll only sing for him one day. Aww.
Soon-deok can relate to him, having felt the same feelings once herself. She describes her childhood (as we see it in flashback), claiming that she was always different from the other girls because she didn’t like the same girly things. That’s when Eun Lite offered her a ring made of flowers, which she happily accepted.
In the present, Soon-deok tells Jung to have courage when it comes to the woman he loves. She’ll be cheering him on, but Jung gives himself his own cheer: “Fighting!” Cute.
Princess Yeonhwa pays a formal visit to the new King Jeongjong, deliberately showing off the ring he once gave her. Jeongjong laughs at the sight of it, and tells her that he’ll be sending her off to the Khitan to be married. “Congratulations on your marriage, Yeonhwa-ya.”
Yeonhwa can’t help but wonder why it is that everyone who sits on that throne tries to control her through marriage: “You must believe there is no better way to control a woman other than marriage. I’m disappointed in you.” But Jeongjong reminds her that her brother betrayed him, so he can’t very well accept her as his queen.
Now that the Jeongjong avenue is closed, Yeonhwa thinks about So, and how he already proclaimed to love someone else. Left with no other options, all she can do is cry.
Because Eun is suffering from cabin fever so badly, Soon-deok allows him one excursion to the baths, since those aren’t occupied at night. Eun tries to get some while he’s at it, but Soon-deok avoids his grasps for her clothes.
She’s wowed when Eun makes her a rabbit out of a towel, so he decides to make all sorts of things for them to play with, which includes two toy boats that they use to race against each other. When Eun wins (because she let him), he prepares to give her a smack on the inside of her wrist, only to notice that her wrist is already reddened from him doing that too much. Yikes. At least he refrains this time.
Soon-deok then gifts him with his favorite slingshot, which she managed to take with them despite all the chaos. Eun admits that he never wanted to be a prince, and Soon-deok says that they’ll be able to live out their dreams freely once they move to the island of Tamra.
Eun returns the favor by giving his wife an ornament to wear, though at first, she thinks he’s gotten it for Su. Embarrassed, he says that it was for her, and repeats the same words he’d said when he gave her the flower ring as children about “all pretty girls” liking such things.
Of course, Eun is quick to say that she’s just okay and not necessarily pretty, but Soon-deok is so overcome with happiness that she kisses him. Then, she suddenly grows paranoid that kissing could make her pregnant, causing Eun to maturely note that they should’ve lived happily like this from the very beginning. But now, it’s business time.
Yeonhwa comes to the baths looking for Su the next day, and like Chae-ryung, she takes notice of all the homemade toys suddenly lying about. She orders Su to leave So immediately, and claims that she can get Su married out to a decent family.
Su says that the reason she wants to marry So (and not just into any good family) is because he makes her feel like she’s worth something, adding that she has no reason to leave him as long as he stays true to her.
“Now I know why I’ve always hated you,” Yeonhwa grits out. “Feelings and marriage are just silly games to you. It isn’t life and death for you like it is for me.” After promising to make Su pay for her refusal to bend to her wishes, Yeonhwa storms off.
Wook advises King Jeongjong to get rid of So as soon as possible, but even the king has enough sense to know that it’s too soon for him to act without arousing suspicion. In that case, Wook claims his only chance is to drive a wedge between So’s two biggest allies: General Park and Astronomer Choi.
Yeonhwa barges in unannounced and intent on making a deal: If they like what she has to say, then she doesn’t have to be married off. It’s only revealed in a scene with her and So that Yeonhwa revealed Eun’s hiding place, having recognized the towel-animals in the Damiwon bath as his doing.
Su sees Eun and Soon-deok to the secret entrance of the cave and tells them that Jung will be waiting for them on the other side. Soon-deok thanks her, and Eun says he’ll see her when he returns, which seem like some famous last words if there ever were any.
Before they can enter the tunnel, Jung comes rushing out to tell them to run—there are guards everywhere. He’ll hold them off for as long as he can.
Su tries to find another escape route, but they’re surrounded by the sounds of swords and screams. Soon-deok tells Su to take Eun, assuring him that they won’t dare to kill her, a general’s daughter. I don’t think she honestly believes it, but she wants Eun to so that he can escape.
Despite Su’s best efforts to drag him away, Eun refuses to leave his wife. “What can I do?” he sighs. “I am all she has.”
And then, he pulls himself from Su’s grasp. She can only look after him with tears in her eyes.
COMMENTS
Huzzah, Su did something! It’s amazing what a difference a little proactivity makes, since I suddenly found myself invested in her story this episode. And all it took was for her to have things she wanted to accomplish! How hard was that?
But in all seriousness, it really did feel like she was wandering around without goals or anything she necessarily wanted, which made it intensely difficult for me to get on board with pretty much anything she was doing. And on a much larger scale, I still don’t know what she wants out of her time here in Goryeo, and found it somewhat confusing that she suddenly reverted back to fearing So based on her still unexplained premonition. And then she reverted back to not fearing him based on other people’s advice, which was a bit disappointing—I would’ve liked for her own feelings about So to dictate how she felt about him, rather than other people having to remind her that she should trust him based off her feelings.
On a smaller episodic scale though, I was just happy that I could finally follow her, though I’m wary of trusting the show to keep delivering on the Su front after they let us down following that epic Court Lady Oh episode. Still, we’re at that stage in the game where we have to take what we can get, so I’ll take Su finally thinking for herself and even (gasp) defending herself. Against a king, no less! And I could completely buy that she’d do whatever she could to save Eun because he was her first friend in Goryeo, so giving her that common goal with both Eun and Jung went such a long way toward making her more relatable to us.
Even without Su’s premonition, dramas have taught us that hope is bad, and too much of it will kill you. So when we started spending a disproportionate amount of time with Eun and Soon-deok while they planned their escape, we pretty much knew that they were doomed. The show only cemented that fact by suddenly giving tons of screen time to the couple, which for once, was actually bearable. Most of that credit belongs to Soon-deok, who’s simply way too good for Eun—and the tragedy is that he didn’t realize what a saint of a wife he had until it was too late.
And though Jung’s been pretty low on the princely totem pole up until now, his role’s been increasing these past few weeks, and I actually like where we’ve ended up with him. His one-sided crush on Su is likely going to bite him and us in the behind later, but the show was smart to use its one remaining and uncommitted prince (Baek-ah’s sort of been decommissioned with whatever it is Woo-hee’s still around for) to help move the plot along. Even though everyone’s pretty much had a crush on Su by now, I really felt for Jung and his innocent, pure love for our heroine in ways that I never felt for Eun when he was in the throes of his one-sided love. Maybe it’s easier because we know what’ll happen to Eun even if I’m dreading whatever Su-related reasons the show might cook up to justify it, but not knowing what’ll happen to Jung is much more frightening.
At least Yo is making for a more entertaining king than his predecessor, though I couldn’t be more disinterested with the political machinations in this show. It feels like they’re checking the boxes for the basic requirements needed to make a fight for the throne seem appealing, but the story’s been so erratic when it comes to the succession of kings that it’s hard to really drum up interest when everyone on the throne or hovering directly around it is terrible. Yes, that means you too, Wook.
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151 Johan
October 15, 2016 at 10:35 PM
Again????
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http://www.itechpost.com/articles/41837/20161015/moon-lovers-scarlet-heart-ryeo-episode-16-postponed-drama-airing-affected-again-by-baseball-game-broadcast.htm
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pogo
October 15, 2016 at 11:09 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/prays to all the sports gods to end the game early
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Kivan
October 15, 2016 at 11:38 PM
I hope they don't cancel! ??
They've released new stills for the following episode and the wait is KILLING me
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JoseMiro
October 16, 2016 at 9:22 AM
Tbh, now I'm terrified, if they give us sweet/happy moment in the next 2 eps, are they planning to put us in hell for the last 3 eps??
Aiizz show..please don't be so mean, tell me I'm wrong..okay ??
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pigsnout
October 16, 2016 at 7:02 AM
Nooooo why are they doing this :(
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Napkiin
October 16, 2016 at 8:44 PM
the game lasts for 3 weeks... sucks Korea doesnt have a sports channel :(
hopefully the game finishes on time so MLSHR airs !
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152 endo
October 16, 2016 at 12:13 AM
The spoilers in Instagram is killing me.?
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Kivan
October 16, 2016 at 12:19 AM
SAME OMG
The entire fandom has gone mad on Twitter, it's insane
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pineapplegongzhu
October 16, 2016 at 9:28 AM
Which Twitter accounts?
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Puni
October 16, 2016 at 6:29 PM
Ditto! Instagram has gone crae.. so many spoilers. one or two was fine, to feed the addiction.. but had have seen quite a few now. Hope the episode delivers and they weren't too far ahead.
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Cidorta
October 17, 2016 at 6:43 PM
More than spoiler are few sec for episode 16 episode, was this shown in China but not Korea today? Because I found episode 17 previews
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153 pigsnout
October 16, 2016 at 6:55 AM
After a long time I picked up this drama again and finished all the episodes in 1 week......I understand why people are so addicted.
But I got so angry with Chae Ryung, Soo trusts you and you get into the Damiwon only to poison the king? Go be boiled alive or whatever. And Wook the greedy bastard can go with you.
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Barbrey
October 16, 2016 at 4:02 PM
Hear hear.
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pigsnout
October 16, 2016 at 11:10 PM
Thank you! In the earlier episodes comments everyone has so much sympathies for Wook even when he literally turns his back on Soo.... but who is making him plot to murder his brother? Mu isn't even like Taejo, sending anyone away from the palace or killing anyone.
If Wook loves Soo then he could have asked Mu to let her out once he became king.....then you can marry her and live happily even without yourself becoming the king. But instead you poison the king in a way that means Soo will get blamed for it? I'm so sick of him saying he did it for Soo, he wants to possess her but without any care for Soo's own happiness or her wishes or even her safety. That's not love. Maybe desire, but not really true love.
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154 Johan
October 16, 2016 at 12:20 PM
looking forward to this one..
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BLb_lJbAFp3/
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155 Barbrey
October 16, 2016 at 6:50 PM
I've been formulating another theory about the time travel, predstination plot on page 3 just today, and it led me to a hypothesis that just occurred to me.
We know that Ji Mong saw a different future than the one playing out, whose variable is primarily Su's influence on So, and Yo lives. This made me think about the whole story in terms of modern Su's presence or absence.
Medieval Hae Su and modern Ha Jin are basically the same reincarnated soul - the main difference is one was brought up with modern sensibilities and the other medieval. I'm going to write about this later, but I realized something. It's quite possible that medieval Hae Su was fated to love Wook in this timeline. Whereas modern Hae Su's fate is to love Wang So in the future. If you think about it, medieval Hae Su would likely never have had much interaction with So at all, and in fact he only appears after she dies. If medieval Hae Su had in fact survived her drowning without being thrust out by modern Su, she would likely have furthered that love story with Wook, but once again have disappeared off stage if she had been married to the king as a concubine. That's where the love story between her and Wook would have ended. Patpat made me think about this scene. There is no way a medieval Hae Su would have done what our modern girl did - slit her wrist to get out of it.
Anyway, this just touches on the bigger theory, and the thread's deserted except for a few of us die-hards so I will post about it after tomorrow. But I feel like a number of the things I thought of as anomalies might be cleared up by this hypothesis.
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Johan
October 16, 2016 at 9:39 PM
...looking forward on your next post.?
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LeoLikeVinci
October 19, 2016 at 12:05 AM
I have been obsessing over the time travel element of the story for quite a while now. Here is what i think.
I have three theories
1) Time travel could be used to introduce a foreign variable that gives the writers the ability to modify the events to change the course of history.
Gwangjong, in history has always been notorious for having killed his siblings and has the reputation of a tyrant.
The writers have shown that this is a result of the hatred that he was continually subjected to. Enter Hae Soo! She is someone who is, because of her modern sensibilities, able to empathise with and understand So, and because of the compassion that he receives from Soo, he does not turn into the monster that history knows him to be, and without the greed for the throne, he can have a happily ever after with Soo.
2) Time travel could also be used as a means to show that while a foreign variable can change the course of history, it cannot change history itself. The variables that define a phase of time, will inadvertently adjust around the introduction of the foreign variable, to ensure that the result remains the same.
This was why, though she knew it, Soo could somehow do nothing to avoid Eun's death. It eventually led there, and due to the change in the variables, So's maniacal laughter was that of a man distressed to the point of trauma, by killing his brother. If not for Hae Soo, So would probably have turned into a cruel man because of all the hatred around him, and killed Eun without having to be told. In that case the laughter would have been that of a manic sociopath. No matter how things change becuase of the arrival of HAe Soo, the result remains the same.
3)Though Wang So was always considered a cruel king, that might not have been what he was truly like, and there is a possibility that he was framed by other stakeholders to end up taking the blame for their misdeeds.
The time travel could have just been used as a window to let the audience see what the writers think might have happened behind the scenes in reality from the perspective of a person from the future, leading up to the creation of history as we know it. They might have wanted to depict their interpretation of Wang So, as the misunderstood good guy.
I think the third one is the most probable explanation.
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156 Titi
October 16, 2016 at 10:11 PM
http://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/378975-current-drama-2016moon-lovers-%E2%9D%A4-scarlet-heart-ryeo-%EB%8B%AC%EC%9D%98-%EC%97%B0%EC%9D%B8-%EB%B3%B4%EB%B3%B4%EA%B2%BD%EC%8B%AC-%EB%A0%A4-~-lee-joon-gi-%E2%9D%A4-lee-ji-eun-%E2%9D%A4-kang-ha-neul-~/?page=1271
despite the jawdropping gorgeousness, since when does his cleft chin disappear? Is it because he's getting thinner solely for this role?
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junebuggley
October 18, 2016 at 10:58 AM
Losing weight would make his chin cleft more prominent, not less. i think LJK had a few nip and tucks to his chin and jawline, but no big deal because he's still improbably gorgeous (i miss his original cleft chin and squarer jawline though).
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157 Johan
October 17, 2016 at 2:41 AM
http://www.soompi.com/2016/10/17/scarlet-heart-goryeo-releases-sweet-stills-upcoming-episode/
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158 Moon Lover
October 17, 2016 at 7:36 AM
Only 1 episode this week sob sob
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Baek
October 17, 2016 at 8:00 AM
Aww only 1ep this week.. sob.. hopefully i can survive the drama underdose.. my poor addiction T_T
At least on the bright side, with the current schedule, 19 and 20 will end on the same week..
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159 pogo
October 17, 2016 at 9:05 AM
/sob
we didn't get our episode after all
I hate baseball :/
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160 Johan
October 17, 2016 at 9:28 AM
this is so heartbreaking!!!???
i am actually waiting for the raw version..& i stumbled upon this article.?
whaaaah!!???
http://www.soompi.com/2016/10/17/todays-scarlet-heart-goryeo-episode-postponed-tuesday/
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161 endo
October 17, 2016 at 9:45 AM
This is madness. China aired ep 16. Someone confirmed it to me. So, if China go ahead and air ep 17 tomorrow. We will be bombarded with spoilers until next monday? OMG.
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Ren
October 17, 2016 at 10:20 AM
Youku accidentally released it and fans managed to get a hold of it before it was taken down. There's chatter that SBS will air both episode 16 and 17 tomorrow.
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Moon Lover
October 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM
?? what is this madness, I don't want more spoilers. Can't avoid instagram, tumblr, facebook and youtube for so long. Hope they will release both episode tomorrow.
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endo
October 17, 2016 at 11:12 AM
So that's what happened. Yeah, fans managed to grab the episode tonight. I already watched the Raw version of ep 16. Somebody gave me a link.
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pogo
October 17, 2016 at 11:33 AM
yikes that's going to be a disaster - so now either SBS airs both 16 and 17 together tomorrow, or youku re-releases 16 tomorrow with no ep 17 (in line with SBS). And if they go out of sync, we're all screwed with spoilers forever.
What a mess, I wish they coordinated better.
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pineapplegongzhu
October 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM
The addict in me almost doesn't really care if Youku releases episode 17 tomorrow. I almost want them to. I'll watch it raw, and then happy to wait a week for the subs.
I saw episode 16 raw (found it on my normal viewing site). I wasn't planning on watching it, I was just going to re-watch some of the earlier episodes, but THERE it was!
Anyway, killing me because it looks like episode 17 is going to be REALLY good. AND WE HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK FOR IT!!
I'M DYING OVER HERE....and SBS doesn't seem to care!! *WAIL*
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endo
October 17, 2016 at 1:32 PM
I'm Guilty too and i watched the ep 16 raw. What happened is i asked an account how did they got a hold of that clip and they told me Youku aired it. And also responded back with a website to watch it.
Funny thing is i was able to finish it but once i refreshed. They already took it down. Haha. I'm a very moral person too. In fact, i pay monthly subscription to DF.
But i think i put myself in a situation wherein if they decided not to air ep17 this week, i'm gonna go crazy because the preview was DAEBAAAAAAK!
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pineapplegongzhu
October 17, 2016 at 1:26 PM
in my defense i will say that i am normally a very moral person (albeit, not very patient).....but we all sell out at some point.....
....and apparently mine is korean drama spoilers when chinese tv shows "leak" the episode that wasn't suppose to show.
#thestruggleisreal
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Ren
October 17, 2016 at 2:07 PM
I'm surprised by the moral outrage on Soompi. I mean for me SBS showed that they didn't care about the audience with the release of 2 versions of the show, constant spoilers in previews and press release shots and of course the uncertain scheduling around baseball.
Besides, the leak is unlikely going to affect tomorrow's ratings. It's only diehard fans who would scour the internet to see an episode a day ahead of time and they'll probably watch it again on SBS anyway to support the show. Meanwhile the uncertainty around whether the drama is going to actually air and the disrupted pace of the show completely tunes out casual viewers. If anything the leak has placed some pressure for SBS to air 2 episodes tomorrow.
Anyhow, the leaked version in HD is subbed now. I wish I would of know that streaming sites would be subbing it! It took me forever to read those Chinese subs. The things I do for this show.
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Barbrey
October 17, 2016 at 2:34 PM
Where I am this plays in the wee hours of the morning so I pretty much stayed up all night to watch it, checking in occasionally for the baseball update on soompi (I have never laughed so hard - that fangirl's devoted and she also knows her baseball!) to see if it would end on time. I realized I was being plain ridiculous -staying up all night for a one hour show that I can't understand a word of the dialogue, reading Korean baseball updates. I'm going to make myself the main character in an absurdist play.
162 Barbrey
October 17, 2016 at 2:20 PM
I just watched the subbed intl version at drama love. Surprised me, I had no idea it would be up. Or how affected I would be by it.
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endo
October 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM
Yes. I was already surprised when i saw the subbed version in that site. So i watched it the second time. I'm obsessed. Lol.
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Barbrey
October 17, 2016 at 3:15 PM
We're all in the same boat. I will be re-watching the SBS version once it's up with subs. I guess Heads will not be posting about it till it's officially released with subs so sometime late tomorrow.
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Moon Lover
October 17, 2016 at 4:43 PM
Gues that what I'll do too.
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pineapplegongzhu
October 18, 2016 at 5:33 AM
SUCH an amazing episode, huh?!
I really liked it, I thought our investment in the show is paying off, personally.
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163 Johan
October 17, 2016 at 5:27 PM
congrats! you are all so lucky.?
as for me, i tried to access the site but it was offline since early in the morning.
I have no choice but to wait.?
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endo
October 17, 2016 at 6:48 PM
If you are okay with just raw. Try Dramacoala. Unfortunately, dramalove was the only site that has sub.
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endo
October 17, 2016 at 7:01 PM
Sorry NOT dramacoala.. I meant Drama4u and i think Dramafire too...
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JoseMiro
October 17, 2016 at 7:03 PM
Just finish drama love with sub..it works
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164 Johan
October 17, 2016 at 7:37 PM
@endo,
thank u so much.?
i still can't open dramalove but luckily I can access dramafire .
It has subbed too.
so happy!!
thanks a lot again!!
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endo
October 18, 2016 at 9:34 AM
you're welcome. now i'm a bit cranky because there's no episode 17. lol. so imagine how would i feel once this drama ends. i've never felt so invested in a drama like this.
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165 Lemon Meringue
October 17, 2016 at 9:51 PM
Not sure if anyone is still here, but I just wanted to thank everyone for pointing out where I could watch ep 16. Boy, I'm still stunned by what I watched.
This is some addictive crack. I don't know how I'm going to concentrate on my work after this.
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Pei
October 18, 2016 at 12:35 AM
tell me about it! XD
I got this 30 minuted before lunch break and had to restrain myself for not opening the link during work hour, but after eating my lunch while watching it. Zero mood for working after !!
What kind of sorcery it is?!
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166 straws
October 17, 2016 at 11:04 PM
I heard it's not back to back episode tonight???. Who could confirm this? Only episode 16 will be broadcasted tonight while episode 17 will be scheduled next week ?. The worse, baseball game still around that week.
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167 Maui
October 18, 2016 at 5:18 AM
@Lemon Meringue....still here....@Barbrey "Surprised me, I had no idea it would be up. Or how affected I would be by it...." Agree, Oh my goodness, I have so many things running thru my head too after watching this....will wait to post more after the recap comes out.
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168 pineapplegongzhu
October 18, 2016 at 5:25 AM
Newbie question: is it possible for me to help with ML:SHR's ratings by watching it streaming?
I'm in England, and I usually watch the show on drama love because that was the only site I could find that I wasn't fearful to put viruses on my computer.
But, I'm really happy to help with ratings if I can.
Can anyone help me out with this question?
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SH QA
October 18, 2016 at 2:11 PM
The TV ratings are measured in Korea only. The online views around the world, would not impact the Korean numbers. The Chinese TV networks/internet site are measuring the viewership since the numbers are substantial (2 billion already). I imagine that the production company is well aware of the astronomical success worldwide.
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169 zgs1994
October 21, 2016 at 5:08 PM
I find myself asking, 'what is this Hae Su?' Because as far as I can see, she's not even a plot device... -.- What is the purpose of her character, tho?
Also, ANOTHER time skip? ~>~
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170 Jsaz
October 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM
Wook!! Please be strong
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171 Maria Violeta Berame
June 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM
Omg?.....i cannot take this anymore, after i saw the episode my heart super duper, whaaaaa.....y must be killed the 10 prince wang eun.? No more funny couple...scarlet heart..
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