Moonlight Drawn By Clouds: Episode 11
by javabeans
I was half afraid for this week to roll around for Moonlight Drawn By Clouds, because it felt like we’d been happy for so long that doom was just around the corner. But I’m pleased to report that as of today’s episode, my heart is still intact and beating just fine, if a little pinched at the poignant moments today brings us. The emotions are a bit more subdued in this episode, but not in a bad way; I love this kind of sweet, heartfelt storytelling where love is about so much more than pure romance.
EPISODE 11: “Promise”
Head Eunuch Han says that he has been looking for Ra-on for a long time, and Yeong arrives in time to hear this and ask how the eunuch knew her name.
There’s a long moment as everyone takes in this information. Then, Eunuch Han explains that he knew Ra-on as a child, although she doesn’t remember it now.
The men sit down for a private talk, and Eunuch Han explains that he owes a great debt to Ra-on’s mother. He had looked after her closely for a time, but lost contact after a sudden separation.
Both men tread carefully, wary of saying too much but feeling that they know what the other person knows. Yeong asks if Eunuch Han “already knows too.” Eunuch Han replies, “That [she] is unable to be a eunuch?” That’s confirmation enough.
Yeong says that the eunuch now has the opportunity to repay his debt, and requests that he take good care of Ra-on as the head of the eunuch department. Eunuch Han agrees to do so.
Ra-on tries to ask Eunuch Han about the meeting the minute he steps outside, but he advises her to hold her questions until he seeks her out separately. For now, she’s left to wonder.
Later that evening, Yeong tells Ra-on that he will reschedule their meeting with Teacher Dasan. She asks what kind of man he is, and Yeong replies that Teacher Dasan is a good person to learn things from, “except for one thing—his drinking habits.” Hearing that Teacher Dasan goes around talking to animals when drunk, Ra-on fondly recalls that her grandfather used to do similar things.
Yeong’s gaze softens as he calls Ra-on’s name softly, then leans in close, holding her stare. Then he playfully taps her with his brush, dotting her forehead with ink, and giggles to himself.
Ra-on doesn’t laugh, though, and his smile fades. Yeong replies more seriously, “It is my heart.” Ra-on asks what he means by that, and he replies that he “had his eye on her” a long time ago—a pun on the phrase that sounds like “paint a dot.” Yeong smiles, looking proud of his wordplay, and I’m pretty sure the camera cuts out just before Ra-on gives an eyeroll.
Now that Byung-yeon also knows that Head Eunuch Han is part of the rebel cause, he asks if he’d hidden his identity in order to punish those who betrayed them. Eunuch Han says that he’s never worried about Byung-yeon, because Byung-yeon knows too well who destroyed his family.
Eunuch Han adds that he has served three kings, and that the moment they ascended to the throne, what started out with small expectations ended in frustration and despair. “There is no more hope for a Joseon ruled by the Yi family,” he says.
Byung-yeon asks what their secret society will do to ensure a new hope for the future. Is it another uprising? Head Eunuch Han replies that an uprising is merely one means: “How can a riot give hope?” Well, I sure hope that means you have a better idea, Mr. Cryptic Smartypants.
Eunuch Han asks if Ra-on truly remembers nothing of the last rebellion ten years ago, and Byung-yeon confirms it.
Yeong visits the little grocer girl in her jail cell, watching her cry with a heavy heart. He recalls how she had spoken of the king with hope, as someone who would care for his people’s sufferings. Despite being burdened by her plight, however, he can’t do much to help her.
At court, the ministers propose a harsh interrogation of the girl to get some answers about her supposed rebel activities. When Yeong protests the cruel punishment, the ministers counter that her crime is grave enough to merit a death penalty. Yeong demands that proof be submitted of her alleged spying, but the minister replies that interrogation (read: torture) will provide that evidence.
Yeong declares angrily, “If it is true that a ten-year-old child has learned to be a spy before learning to read, then the people who deserve stern rebukes are myself and you all.” He orders the girl released, and this time, they concede.
The king’s meal taster discovers that the food she is about to eat turns the silver chopsticks dark—a sign of poison. This throws the court into an uproar, and officers search the palace top to bottom for clues, which turns up one man who’d been noted a suspicious entrant to the palace. And who should it be but the father of that grocer girl.
Still-lovesick Young Master Jung lurks around for a glimpse of Princess Myeongeun, ducking out of sight and trailing like a heartbroken puppy. The princess ignores her court lady’s urging to eat—she’s determined to maintain her newly trim figure—and heads out for a walk.
She pauses to look at herself in a mirror, and only then glimpses Young Master Jung in the background. She catches him following in her tracks and confronts him about it, and Young Master Jung is so nervous and incoherent that it just makes her assume the worst.
The princess takes him for a creeper and yells for help, then trips while backing away. Young Master Jung lurches forward to catch her, grabbing her closely to himself… before his knees then give out and he goes falling backward. Ha, romantic gesture fail.
Princess Myeongeun lands right on top of him, then slaps him in outrage. He asks if she’s okay, and she slaps him again. But he just asks yet again if she’s okay, and it confuses her into stopping the slaps; she leaves him with a warning not to lurk around anymore.
It’s only after she’s gone that he opens the box he’d been carrying, containing the princess’s favorite sweets.
The Ministers Kim inform Yeong (I’m sure with relish) that the culprit in the poisoning attempt must be the girl who was released on the prince’s orders. Both the father and daughter have suspiciously fled, and the ministers pressure Yeong to order them captured and executed.
All of the eunuchs’ quarters are searched, including Ra-on’s, and that turns up a woman’s hanbok. While proof of nothing on its own, it’s odd enough to raise suspicions.
The grocer father and daughter are caught in no time, and Prime Minister Kim uses this opportunity to pressure the king to hasten the prince’s marriage, arguing that it will stabilize restless public sentiment. The king is reluctant to force the issue, saying that Yeong has no desire to marry now, but the prime minister asks pointedly, “Has following the prince’s wishes ever resulted in proper results?” Would we even know, master of sabotage?
The prime minister states that he will begin the bride selection process, and assures the king that he will alleviate his troubles.
That evening, Yeong thinks back to the advice his mother once gave him, when he had asked what kind of king she wanted him to become. She had told him to be a king with keen sight who was not deaf, so that he would not ignore the plight of those in lowly positions.
Moreover, she had urged him to treat every one of his citizens as though they were his only one. She had taken Yeong’s hand and asked, “Will you promise your mother that you will become this kind of king?”
Now as he lays his head wearily on his arm, he asks Ra-on, “Is what our eyes see the truth? Whose words should be trusted? What happens if what I believed to be right is wrong? When everything is difficult, what should I do?”
Ra-on shares something her grandfather used to say: that a sad heart leads you to doubt everything. He repeats the words, then smiles at her: “Then, I need you.”
He asks her to ease his doubts with her joy. Ra-on beams warmly at him, resting her face on her hand, just inches away from him. They sit there for a minute, staring at each other lovingly.
She asks if that worked, and he replies yes, that it has filled him with joy (ra-on).
Prime Minister Kim meets with Ha-yeon’s father, Minister Jo, to revisit the issue of their children’s marriage. Minister Jo looks both relieved and apologetic to realize that the prime minister already knows that the king spoke to him secretly about marrying Ha-yeon to the prince. Then he looks distinctly queasy at the prime minister’s confidence that Ha-yeon will marry Yoon-sung as initially planned.
Prime Minister Kim declares that the bride selection will yield a princess from the Kim clan, and gives Minister Jo the choice to either take his hand, or to find his own power cut off.
Eunuch Sung takes the lady’s hanbok found in Ra-on’s things to the queen, who tries to figure out what it means. She can’t quite believe a eunuch could actually be a woman, but decides she will have to confirm her suspicions directly. Eunuch Sung suggests that the prince won’t like that, but the queen seems to relish the idea of his reaction.
The issue of the poison weighs on Ra-on’s mind, and she asks Do Ki for information, as he has learned a little about poisons. Ra-on finds it curious that the tainted food was fed to animals, and none of them died.
Do Ki tests the tainted silverware with specially prepared water, then demonstrates to Ra-on and Yeong how the dirt wipes off—something that doesn’t happen with poison. It’s unclear what caused the color to darken in the first place, but finding that out will be their next task.
Yeong heads out into the city to visit the healer, and as he walks into the yard, a woman walks out—wait, Ra-on’s mother is still alive? He looks curiously at her as she passes by, but Yeong can’t know what Ra-on’s mother looks like.
Ah, so Teacher Dasan is currently serving as neighborhood healer. Yeong asks him again to return to government service, and when Dasan points out that the palace already employs many qualified doctors, Yeong clarifies that he doesn’t mean in a medical capacity. He needs help saving a wrongly accused girl, and reminds Teacher Dasan of his words to never give up on a single citizen.
Ra-on is brought before the sneering queen, who shows her the hanbok discovered in her quarters. The queen declares that she will confirm her doubts with her own eyes and orders Ra-on stripped.
Ha-yeon comes upon Yeong in the courtyard, and asks if he’s out for some fresh air. He notes that she has become increasingly fearless, which she takes as an admonition. She apologizes for her rudeness, but Yeong clarifies that he meant she’s fearless for walking around alone at night.
Ha-yeon asks hesitantly if he disliked her at the outset because she was too forward about her feelings. Yeong replies that there’s a woman in his heart, and that it’s not her fault.
Ha-yeon’s heart sinks, and she asks what kind of woman it is. But before he can reply, Eunuch Jang comes running in and gasps out something about Ra-on and the queen’s palace. Yeong heads out immediately.
Thankfully, when Yeong arrives, Ra-on is still clothed and her secret intact. For now.
The queen kneels to look at Ra-on’s face closely, cooing how much of a shame it is to waste such a beautiful face on a man. At that, Yeong’s eyes sharpen and he orders the queen to take her hands off Ra-on.
The queen presents him with the hanbok found in Ra-on’s room. She explains that with all of the rumors and suspicions swirling around the prince lately, she thought to address them here, before witnesses, to clear them up once and for all. How thoughtful of her.
Without betraying any emotion, Yeong tells her to go ahead. The queen presses Ra-on to answer to why she has the hanbok, or to remove her clothing and prove herself. Ra-on struggles to find something to say, unable to defend herself.
Then Yeong orders Ra-on harshly to do as the queen commands—shocking everyone, including the queen herself. He next turns his scorn on the queen for going to such lengths over one eunuch, toying with everyone at court over rumors. “So let us reveal now who is right,” he states. “And if there is any mistake, I will demand that the utmost responsibility be taken.”
So now we’re playing chicken with his bluff, and while the queen looks a little unnerved at Yeong’s conviction, she orders Ra-on to obey. Not bothering to wait, she starts to claw at Ra-on’s robe with her own hands, and Yeong has to stand by and watch.
But then, a new visitor is announced: the king’s head eunuch. He tells the queen that it is no difficult task to strip one eunuch of his clothing, but requests that she confirm the situation in a manner that preserves the dignity of the eunuch position.
He reminds the queen that Ra-on passed the eunuch department’s examination, and that Eunuch Sung personally oversaw the re-examination. That puts Eunuch Sung on the spot (since we know he skipped out and let Eunuch Ma take over), and he has to agree.
Head Eunuch Han then makes the argument for her own modesty, saying that it would be less than decorous for the mother of the nation and a pregnant queen to look upon a bare-nekkid man. What would happen if the king were to hear about this?
Now Yeong plays devil’s advocate, asking Eunuch Han to leave them be, since both he and the queen are the type who cannot let doubts go unaddressed. He presses the queen to continue and put these suspicions to rest.
But now, the queen is beset with concerns for herself, and self-preservation wins out. She lets go of Ra-on and orders her taken away. Phew, safe for another day, although that was quite the risky gamble Yeong took. If the queen had been the least bit stupider or smarter, we’d have been screwed.
Later at Ra-on’s quarters, Yeong sits at her bedside while Ra-on sleeps. Byung-yeon arrives and asks if something happened. Yeong replies, “I am only trying to keep a precious person next to me. Why do regretful things keep happening?”
Byung-yeon doesn’t know what to say, but Yeong just says he’s thankful to his friend, which seems to throw Byung-yeon into another bout of guilt.
He calls Yoon-sung for a drink, which is unusual enough to make Yoon-sung wonder why. Byung-yeon replies that felt nostalgic, and also that he felt Yoon-sung would be in a similar mood.
Yoon-sung asks after Ra-on, having heard of the incident with the queen. Byung-yeon says she’s fine, “Because the prince is with [her].”
Yoon-sung says that when they were younger, he wanted to be the prince’s most reliable friend, but at some point he became an uncomfortable presence. “And for the first time,” Yoon-sung says, “I found a woman I wanted to keep at my side—”
“Don’t say it,” Byung-yeon interrupts. “Just keep it in your heart.”
But Yoon-sung overrides that warning, saying that he won’t keep things inside anymore: “This is the first time I’ve wanted something this much.”
The next day, Teacher Dasan makes his way to the palace, and pauses to ask a passing eunuch for directions. The second he sees Ra-on’s face, his eyes widen in recognition—and then, Ra-on’s eyes widen too. They circle each other warily, studying each other’s faces, and declare simultaneously, “Grandfather?” “Ra-on-ie?”
She hushes him before anyone can hear him call her by name, and tells him she goes by Sam-nom here. He’s naturally curious to know how she came to be a eunuch, but she tells him that’s a long story, and then they hug warmly. Teacher Dasan marvels at their reunion after so many years, and Ra-on recites his own words, that people who are destined to meet will meet somehow.
Teacher Dasan thinks back ten years, to when soldiers had shown up at his door looking for the rebel leader’s wife and daughter. He had managed to harbor them in his home safely then, at least for a time.
And then, Yeong shows up and asks curiously how these two know each other. Ha, always one step late to the party, aren’t you? They all stand there a moment, putting the pieces together, and Ra-on realizes, “Then… Grandfather is Dasan…?”
Yeong gapes. “Grandfather?”
Teacher Dasan is brought in to inspect the food served to the king, and he picks out one dish as the culprit: an herb whose sulfurous content turned the silver dark. He eats some to demonstrate that it’s safe, then wonders why all of the royal doctors kept their mouths shut—they should all have been aware of its properties. Why let the situation turn so dire?
From the look on his face, it seems Yeong has an idea why. And just in case we weren’t a hundred percent sure of the culprit, the Ministers Kim crow to themselves that the prince will probably be quaking in his boots, because no doctor would dare flout the prime minister’s orders and inform him of the truth. They figure that the prince should soon realize that nobody in the palace is on his side.
But they’re one step behind, because this discovery enables Yeong to release the grocer and his daughter from prison. He goes to see them, and the father immediately recognizes him as the prince and drops to his knees in gratitude. The girl recognizes him from the lantern festival and only now is told that Yeong is the prince.
Yeong apologizes for the trials she’s suffered, and she asks if her wish to see the king has come true. He says yes: “You have not forgotten what you wanted to ask the king, have you? Be sure to watch and see if I am making a good nation.”
Yeong and Ra-on walk Teacher Dasan out to the palace gate, and Yeong thanks him for his help and asks when he will give him his answer (about returning to service). Teacher Dasan deflects once more, saying merely that he’s an old man who couldn’t possibly be much help, and turns to go.
Ra-on stops him to ask if Teacher Dasan has heard from her mother. We know he must be aware she’s alive, but he merely replies that he’ll hope to deliver better news next time.
The king informs Yeong of his intention to proceed with the marriage, and Yeong protests once more, saying that he doesn’t wish to enter an unwanted marriage. His father understands that feeling, and says that he has not lived one day without fear or confusion since ascending to the throne at the age of ten.
He likens the feeling to walking against a rough current: “I had felt certain that I had taken ten steps, but found that I was only standing in the same spot, moving my legs in place. In order to go from the current to a safe place, must I not at least grab on to a tree branch?” He tells Yeong to marry Ha-yeon.
Ra-on straightens books in the library, thinking of Eunuch Jang’s words about how nice it would be for the prince to marry into a strong family and gain supporters. Yeong finds her there, whispering into her ear, and asks what thoughts have her so preoccupied.
Ra-on asks him to accompany her to her quarters, and he happily complies, walking with her to her building… then back to his, then back to hers again. He teases her about being loath to part ways, and she tells him these days, she is happiest when he calls her name.
Yeong replies that he’s happiest then, too—to call her name, and have her there in front of him. She tells him she won’t wish for anything more, but Yeong disagrees, saying that he will aspire for even more: “When you like someone, is it not natural to be greedy for more?”
Ra-on agrees with a smile, replying, “I am already your person, so do that.” However, she adds that she doesn’t want him doing dangerous things for her: “Just because I cannot be by your side as a woman, my love will not disappear. So…”
He cuts her off, catching her drift and wanting her to stop. Ra-on continues, “Please do not refuse your marriage anymore.”
It upsets him so much that he storms off, while Ra-on does her best to choke down her tears.
Yeong mulls over the conversation he had earlier with Teacher Dasan, where he had confided that Ra-on was the woman he had wanted to be with. Teacher Dasan had asked why he would go to such lengths over a mere eunuch. Yeong had replied that she was his beloved, who just happened to be in the guise of a eunuch.
Yeong had asked for his help overcoming their status difference and their crossed fates. But Teacher Dasan had told him, “The person she needs is not you.”
That thought makes his face grim, but he wears an even more determined one the next morning, when he drops in on Teacher Dasan with something important to discuss.
Later that day, Yeong sits with Ra-on and tells her about the lantern girl and how she’d said the king would know what a good nation would entail. Ra-on asks what kind of nation Yeong wants Joseon to be.
He thinks, and says, “I would like for children to live as children, and for women to be able to live happily as women.”
Yeong takes her hand in his, both of them still wearing their eternity bracelets, and says, “Until I make that kind of nation for you—can you wait? In the new Joseon that I make, you will be my first person.”
They smile sweetly at each other, but then his gaze grows long and he thinks back to his conversation with Teacher Dasan this morning. Teacher Dasan had asked what would happen if reuniting Ra-on with her mother would prove dangerous to Yeong. He’d pointed out, “If you covered it up and pretended not to know, you and Ra-on might be able to live happily.”
Now, Yeong tells Ra-on earnestly, “If, in a difficult moment, you must let something go… that must not be me. Can you promise me that?”
Ra-on promises readily. Yeong looks relieved, and says, “I think my wish has been fulfilled now.” She asks what wish that is.
“My wish asking for your wish to be fulfilled,” he replies.
Ra-on’s face turns serious as that sinks in, and Yeong adds, “I’ve found your mother.”
Yeong’s gaze shifts to something in the distance, and Ra-on turns around to see her mother standing there, smiling at her. They slowly walk toward each other, and Ra-on calls out to her mother.
Her mother says, “I’ve come too late, haven’t I?” and then envelops her in a hug as they sob in each other’s arms.
From a distance, Yeong watches with tears in his own eyes.
COMMENTS
This wasn’t an episode of grand romance or quotable confessions, but it had such quiet moments of intimate connection that I thought it was quite moving. In fact, the quieter it got, the more affecting I found the interactions, such as them sitting quietly together writing at a desk, or staring in each other’s eyes, or clasping hands sitting next to each other. It’s not that one style is better than another (i.e., grandiose versus small, dramatic versus prosaic), but that it feels that this relationship is maturing before our very eyes, and it feels appropriate to where they are: feelings confirmed, hearts on the same page, finding joy purely in each other’s presence.
It’s probably that element that made me think over the course of the episode that these two are so well-matched that it feels like their bond transcends romantic feelings; it’s not a romance that feels driven by chemistry, though they certainly have that too. But they provide such emotional support for each other that it feels like such a crying shame that they can’t marry and live normal, happy lives together—at least, not within the framework of their world and their positions. They make each other better people, and her influence on him reminds me of his mother’s influence—urging him to see things through the eyes of people less privileged, to consider everybody and not those in higher, louder, harder-to-ignore positions. I get the sense that Yeong is growing as a person through his love for Ra-on, and not in the sense that he only does good things to benefit her. Rather, it feels like his love for her is spurring him to see the world differently and find ways to improve it
I love that line at the end, when he wishes for a nation that allows children to be children, and women to be women—essentially, that doesn’t punish you for being born the way you were, that doesn’t take the deck that’s been stacked against you and then smother you with it. And it was a lovely way to draw the parallel with the lantern girl, who gets her wish at the same time that Ra-on gets hers. (I’d previously thought it odd that they should hide his prince status all this time, but it was worth the delayed gratification when the girl met him as the prince today and got to make her wish for a better country.)
How sweet is it that Yeong is the one who enables both, and it tickles my fancy for a couple reasons. One, it’s just plain touching that he had a hand in two very important wishes, but also, they tie into loftier ideals about making a better nation. Through them, he’s living out his mother’s wishes that he see every citizen as equally precious, and that nobody ought to be overlooked or neglected. He’s living by example, not just spouting ideals the way the politicians do, twisting them for their own benefit.
Most of all, I especially like that this takes a nebulous concept of wishing on a lantern (which is to say, a fantasy) and puts Yeong in the driver’s seat, once again making him the author of his own fate. Last week he refused to accept the sad fairy tale and declared that he would write his own happy ending, and today he enabled two wishes with his own actions. (The drama doesn’t tell us how he found Mom, and I suspect we’ll find out tomorrow exactly how, but I think it’s fair to guess that he saw her at Teacher Dasan’s and put some pieces together.)
It’s this idea that I’m clinging to as the royal wedding approaches—that Yeong will assert his will and find a way to change his fate. I’m not sure it’s possible to avoid a wedding altogether, but I’m still holding out a huge hope that the drama will find a way to give us a satisfying resolution anyway; as of right now I have no clue how that’ll happen, and if it doesn’t succeed it might just crush me, but I’ve trusted this drama with my heart this far and I’ve been okay, so I’ll just trust it a little longer. If nothing else, the drama has proven time and time again that Yeong can outwit his opponents even when backed in a corner, as he did with the queen—admittedly I was nervous that he overplayed his hand, but you could argue that his skill includes reading his opponents and making appropriate calculations based on their reactions. Just… don’t fail me now! You can’t! You won’t! I won’t let you.
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1 Moon Gin
September 26, 2016 at 8:22 PM
Rise Moonlight ... rise!
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
September 26, 2016 at 9:05 PM
FLY. HURTLE. ASCEND.
Fly to Jupiter and Mars!
This show is like paradise. To me, this show is to historical-fushion-rom-com what Signal is to mystery thrillers and what Misaeng and Age of Youth are to slice-of-life dramas.
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bellalitious
October 1, 2016 at 5:57 PM
I LOVE what you said, that's excatly what I think!! Those are my favorite dramas ever and now MDBC is getting closer to that list!! :D
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Aedyna
September 27, 2016 at 4:37 PM
And embrace the Sun!! :D
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2 Grace Yoon
September 26, 2016 at 8:26 PM
Two articles in major Korean dailies refer to MDBC's success as a "surprise" or as "unexpected". Here is my response:
"Moonlight Drawn By the Clouds"
"This underdog David of a drama sent shockwaves to its Goliath foes...
It caught everyone by surprise...
It was the unexpected...
It beat all the odds...
With the slingshot of stellar acting, mindblowing chemistry, solid, cohesive script, brilliant directing, cinematography, and musical scoring...
The David-Goliath story repeats itself."
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delurked
September 26, 2016 at 8:59 PM
@bibimbap I love how you put it! Indeed. Or rather, it shows us that with proper acting, chemistry, writing, and directing, any David can become a Goliath. ? You go, MDBC!!
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Purrpal
September 26, 2016 at 9:20 PM
+1
I expected a light, fluffy, simplistic show, but oh God! This show really is unexpectedly good. So good it hurts. The good way.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 9:37 PM
Amen!
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dilemmacan'tdecideaname
September 26, 2016 at 10:33 PM
I love it when the underdog beat the giant. MDBC is just awesome all around!!
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Moon Gin
September 26, 2016 at 10:40 PM
It's great to know that a show with low initial expection has now taken Korea by storm and becomes a fave of many international fans too. Keep the good work MLDBC!
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Leo
September 27, 2016 at 2:13 AM
15 + alpha.
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3 Shannie
September 26, 2016 at 8:29 PM
I just love this drama. It's just a joy to watch. The plot is still solid, even though something felt missing in this episode.
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luna
September 26, 2016 at 10:11 PM
same here, somthing felt off...
but couldn't quite put my finger on it...
tho im so excited with episode 12 preview....
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Deedee
September 26, 2016 at 11:12 PM
I love this drama too, and it's joy indeed.
But now I am really really concerned. The manwha author's interview taught me that Prince Hyomyeong actually had existed. Then wiki taught me bad news.
So what's next? How can the sow handle History?
I fear I will be robbed of all the joy the show brings to me very soon.
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newbie
September 27, 2016 at 1:39 AM
In ep 1 or 2 the face reader said, that the prince was destined to die early and that Yoon-Sung would make a great king... So having the historical facts in mind the ending is either already set in stone or they are going to fake his death so he can live on happily ever after with Ra On. But do we really believe the prince will turn his back on his duties?
*goes off to check the Kleenex supply*
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deedee
September 27, 2016 at 2:08 AM
I remember the face reader. But i thought it's was superstition. And mainly I thought the prince had never existed to begin with.
Why choose him writternim? Such a bizarre idea when there are so many unknown princes from multiple concubines in Goryo and Joseon.
And like you I don't believe he will quit being a prince so...
I am seriously thinking to pause the show until the end, not ready for tragedy.
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Suyeon
September 27, 2016 at 6:09 AM
To be frank, Prince Hyomyeong's story isn't necessarily a unique case.
"Such a bizarre idea when there are so many unknown princes from multiple concubines in Goryo and Joseon."
True, but many of them died young as well. A lot of times, for a kingdom that has multiple male children among royalty... You hear about who ascends the throne and nothing of the king's siblings. This could mean one of two things: the king or the court wiped out any potential competition or the princes lived in exile (if they survived childhood illnesses).
"The manwha author’s interview taught me that Prince Hyomyeong actually had existed. Then wiki taught me bad news. So what’s next? How can the show handle history?"
What we know: Crown Prince Hyomyeong died before he officially became king, leaving behind a small son with Queen Hayeon (Sinjeong).
What we don't know: how did he die?
My grasp on Korean isn't strong enough to translate any direct sources, but to die at such a young age without a cited reason implies political motivations of the Kim clan. His son Heonjeong ascended the throne at 8 and died at 21. The Andong Kims had total control by then.
Drama-wise, the show might address this by abdicating Yeong for Yoonsung (or find a way to fake Yeong's death), since it sort of fits how history went in that a distant relation took Heonjeong's place after his death (Yoonsung is Yeong's... step-cousin, iirc). *Sigh* so confusing. I honestly wouldn't be upset if the story didn't follow history in the overly strict sense cause it just raises more questions than answers (technically, it's already going against history, cause the real Yeong would already be married and his child born cause he's 19).
maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 8:06 AM
And history-wise, Yeong would belong to the Kim clan since his mother is supposed to be Queen Sunwon, the one and only Queen consort of King Sunjo. So in that sense, they swapped Yeong's mother as well. And Yoon-sung technically took Yeong's place as Ministry Kim's grandson. I read on baidu that rumor has it Yeong was trying to control Andong Kim clan's power by using the influence of his wife's Pungyang Jo clan, so the Andong Kim clan retaliated by poisoning him.
celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:36 PM
The tone of this episode is more subdued unlike the previous ones. We didn't get to see YeongOn be super cute and sweet like before. There's no action. I guess you can say that nothing big happened at first glance, but if you look into the story, things are moving along at a steady pace. It's just like what JB pointed out.
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4 neener
September 26, 2016 at 8:30 PM
Why did we think that her mom was dead? Nice touch Show. Thankgoodness there's no Truck of Doom when Ra On met her mom.
I know we should talk about this episode, but I just can't get the preview for tonight's episode out of my head.
The music in this Show again is just PERFECT! Every beat just makes you feel so involved!
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Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 8:54 PM
I don't think anyone thought she was dead after the flashback on the day they were separated.
(Anyone can outrun the soldiers in Joseon lol).
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neener
September 26, 2016 at 8:59 PM
I guess I was the only one xD And I should have noticed that anyone can outrun the soldiers in Joseon hihihi
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Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 10:02 PM
No, you were not the only one. I could've worded it better sorry.
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neener
September 27, 2016 at 1:06 AM
No harm done Kiara. You're one of the beanies that I totally respect xD
Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 8:04 AM
I'm so not worthy /bows. Right back at you neener!
Ah In
September 29, 2016 at 1:43 AM
@ neener, I don't know, I thought she was dead/tortured/imprisoned/never to be heard from again too.
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delurked
September 26, 2016 at 8:57 PM
Hahaha, you mean Trishaw of Doom? ??
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
September 26, 2016 at 9:01 PM
Cart of Doom. Horse of Doom. Palaquin of Doom.
Basically, truck of doom's royal ancestor. If Truck of Doom held his reputation for so long, and appears in so many dramas, you just know that he had to be chaebol. Because ordinary people aren't stuff of korean dramas.
*I am gonna be bricked for saying that last line*
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:21 PM
I have to say I am partial to Palanquin of Doom. Boy would I love to see that happen. hihi
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Ah In
September 29, 2016 at 2:25 AM
Horse of doom seems like it could crush any audition
Palanquin of doom sounds grand and all but I don't see it outrunning anyone or being particularly tragic .... unless it gets dropped on someone
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neener
September 26, 2016 at 9:08 PM
LOL! That would be really interesting to see in a sageuk drama in the future xD
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stuffed
September 26, 2016 at 9:09 PM
LOL! To think that the Truck of Doom might just be the revolved version of Trishaw of Doom. That's awesome @delurked!
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stuffed
September 26, 2016 at 9:10 PM
I mean to write evolved
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delurked
September 26, 2016 at 9:26 PM
@Peeps Your comment totally piqued my imagination!
Truck of Doom is probably a troubled 13th generation chaebol, descended from other financially successful vehicles of doom, who suffers from ego issues from being involved in Every Makjang Drama Ever since saeguk times.
Oh and the occasional existential crisis during well-written dramas that get by without (gasp!) ever using that trope. ?
@stuffed ??
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
September 26, 2016 at 9:30 PM
13th generation chaebol? Must have been Goblin's bitter right-man. Forever second, never the first. And hence the anger management issues.
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Aigoooo
September 27, 2016 at 4:12 AM
The White Truck of Doom is powered by the tears of Second Lead characters who have all lost the girl/guy.
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Ah In
September 29, 2016 at 2:38 AM
I wasn't sure what a trishaw was so I googled "trishaw of doom", amongst the results was an article
"Trishaws Unsafe Even Without Bad Driving: The Sunday Times"
Ha ha ha ha, I do believe you have found the perfect vehicle for beleaguered makjang writers, it doesn't even need a plot-hole to malfunction and wreck havoc
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stuffed
September 26, 2016 at 8:59 PM
Somehow I didn't think that the mom would reappear. This is such a nice surprise (to me). I didn't think that the lantern wish would have any effect on the rest of the story. I will forever be amazed at how every single detail is counted.
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Grace Yoon
September 26, 2016 at 9:05 PM
It's a skillfully, intelligently, reflectively written story where every detail is at the service of delivering a powerful narrative! How I wish every drama would be written this way!
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neener
September 26, 2016 at 9:10 PM
I know! I'm tempted to take notes while watching and I don't even do that at school :P
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Purrpal
September 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM
MDBC really is carefully constructed. It's narrative done right (and tight). I'm loving how the recurring motifs keep coming together in perfect harmony.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:25 PM
I did not expect her to make a reappearance too. We were not told if she died, but I may have subconsciously wrote her off because I didn't think her reappearance would help the story. It was a lovely bit of surprise. I, however, agree with Teacher Dasan that reuniting Mom and Ra-on will not help YeongOn. However, it is nice for Ra-on to finally have Mom by her side.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 9:48 PM
I think it's a nice touch that Teacher Dasan didn't straightforwardly reveal about Ra-on's mother, because it shows that he was considering for Yeong's sake as well. Don't you just love it when the crown prince is showered with love by the people around him? It warms my heart to think they DO support him as the crown prince.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 10:09 PM
Yeah because we learned in the latter part that Yeong already told Teacher Dasan that the woman he loves is Ra-on.
It's nice to see that there are people who support Yeong. However, I can't help but sometimes feel that he is alone in his battles even if Ra-on, Teacher Dasan, and Hoon are there. Maybe it is because the Kims are far too many and powerful and Yeong is still in the dark about the rebellion groups and how some have infiltrated the palace. Heck! His own very close friend is, strictly speaking, not on his side and I don't know up until when Kim Hyung can keep on being on his side. I can really feel the weight of what's to come for Yeong as a Crown Prince.
maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:49 PM
I was talking about how Teacher Dasan didn't reveal to Ra-on about her mother, meaning he did consider in his head how this would affect Yeong even if he didn't know then Ra-on was the girl he was talking about, though I think he did suspect it. Initially I felt that Yeong is alone in his battle as well, but now that I'm seeing how everyone reacts to Yeong, I'm thinking he has all the emotional support he needs, heck even Kim Hyung has his best interest at heart when he told Yoon-sung to keep his affection for Ra-on in his heart (meaning shut it).
neener
September 26, 2016 at 11:13 PM
I believe in Kim Hyung but that preview .... Huhuhu
maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 9:44 PM
Well, I assumed she died as well, because the show made no effort to mention about her other than Ra-on's been searching for her high and low.
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mary
September 27, 2016 at 5:49 AM
I also assumed she's dead... because otherwise why wasn't she looking for Raon? :(
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imbuk
September 27, 2016 at 9:20 AM
I thought about this too, why didn't she come to the chuseok festival too, looking for her daughter? Maybe we ll get to know about this in the next episode.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 9:26 AM
Maybe she did, but she had no way of recognizing the older Ra-on? It's not like she can freely call out to Ra-on as well, in fear of exposing her.
5 Alex
September 26, 2016 at 8:31 PM
I have no words to how addicted I am to this drama. These two better get there own happy endings!
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6 michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 8:32 PM
Thanks Javabeans for the great recap. I love the snarky comments/nicknames you threw out. Mr Cryptic smarty pants and master of sabotage! Hehe.
But I need to ask- So does the Prince know Ra On's real identity, meaning who her dad is? Did Master Yoda, I mean Master Jung tell him? That's why Master Jung said who Ra On needs isn't Prince Yeong, meaning she needs her mother. Which is why there is so much angsty foreshadowing I guess?
But regardless I'm so happy Master Jung is on the Prince's and Ra On's side. And the continue to make the Prince so Darn Perfect. Urgh.
I don't know what Eunuch Han's game plan is- is he good or bad? Why is he manipulating Byung Yeon?! For that actually he should be classified as Pure Evil- Be gone you corrupter of Puppy Byung! Don't be swayed Byung Yeon- the Prince and Ra On need you!
Also, I admit to having done an embarrassing fist pump of relief and vindictive joy when Queen mother was outmaneuvered. ?
Anyway fortunately there were the cute moments in between to bring some relief between the more exciting scenes. And since we are heading into angst-ville I decided to gif those scenes.
Gifs coming up soon!
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
September 26, 2016 at 8:59 PM
Eunuch Han just seems very disillusioned, not really a bad guy. If one has seen THREE kings come and go and they've all failed him despite his hopes, I don't wonder how he doesn't see how Yeong can be any different.
Yeong hasn't actually implemented anything big in court or the country's affairs and while WE know that he's VERY capable and shrewd, Eunuch Han just sees another soon-to-be-extinguished bright spark in the Crown Prince. I can't fault him, actually, when he's right next to the king everyday, watching the King snivel in fear and indecision.
I can't help but wonder if Yeong will ever bark at his father for going against his promise of being a reliable dad to him when he needs him. Because from what I've been seeing, King has been throwing Yeong under the bus since the next day he made that promise.
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
September 26, 2016 at 9:09 PM
since the
nextday afterhe made that promise.Was wondering why that sentence didn't make sense to me. I must have been conked out a bit by this show's beauty, haha.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:16 PM
I agree. Him of all people saw how the Kings were. However, surely he also knows that the one sitting on the throne is not to be blamed for everything given that the royal court is filled with the Kim clan who only wanted to stay in power for as long as they can. If he wishes to remove an incompetent King, then do so. However, he should also root out the problem with the Kim's rule of the royal court. Then again, he said that Joseon will not prosper under the rule of the Lee family, so it makes me wonder who he has in mind to rule? He can't be on the side of the Kims. The Kims have long made the people suffer with their corruption. For now, I cannot read Eunuch Han just yet. His intentions may be noble, but I don't know about his means.
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
September 26, 2016 at 9:27 PM
Maybe he doesn't even want a monarchy. But heck, who knows, really. I don't see what the gang's plan is other than raid and destroy...
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:02 PM
I think that's what the rebels been striving all this time, not just dethrone the king, but to overthrow the Lee's family.
Aigoooo
September 27, 2016 at 4:23 AM
I better see those Kims sitting in a torture chair by the end of this drama, especially the constantly smirking pipsqueak one. lol
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mary
September 27, 2016 at 5:51 AM
@Celine, since Eunuch Han is part of the rebellion, I guess he wants to put Ra-on's family on the throne? They did prove themselves to be sympathetic to the common people's plight.
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celine
September 27, 2016 at 6:35 AM
@mary would that be possible though? It'll be an interesting twist to the story...
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mary
September 27, 2016 at 7:14 AM
I don't know hahaha I'm just guessing based on my wishes and whatever factoids beanies share in the comments. XD
Elle
September 26, 2016 at 10:02 PM
THIS. I think Eunuch Han doesn't have anything against Yeong, personally. It's just that the Lees have failed in ruling Joseon or have met a bad end, judging from the kings he'd served.
Sunjo, Yeong's dad, is shown here as a failure of a king (and he was pretty weak in real life as well). He'd started with good intentions but was beaten into submission by the Andong Kims.
Jeongjo, Sunjo's dad, was by most accounts a visionary king who died under suspicious circumstances (i.e., he was probably poisoned because he was only 48 and by all accounts in perfect health when he died). He's the king in Sungkyunkwan Scandal.
Jeongjo's grandfather Yeongjo is generally considered a good king, but he's also that guy who ordered his son to climb into a rice chest on a hot summer day and stay there until he died. In Secret Door, he was portrayed as paranoid and bad-tempered. Eunuch Han was young then. I'd imagine witnessing something like that would leave a lasting impression.
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Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 11:07 PM
Jeongjo (Yi-san) was one of the best king in Joseon for all those reasons and more.
His grandfather Yeongjo was a great king but his accomplishments seems to be overshadowed by Sado's death.
(It's recorded in the Annals that he left the palace (incognito) a lot to mingle with his people and find out what they need).
I wonder if the writer was thinking about him when she made Yeong a wandering prince. He is outside the palace a lot for a prince.
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CoffeeCat
September 27, 2016 at 1:02 AM
Eunuch Han reminds me of Varys from Game of thrones. They're servants of the Empire through and through, not a particular monarch. And if it means the betterment of the people, they would instigate rebellions and use people as pawns. What do you say?
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stuffed
September 26, 2016 at 9:03 PM
"I don’t know what Eunuch Han’s game plan is- is he good or bad? Why is he manipulating Byung Yeon?! For that actually he should be classified as Pure Evil- Be gone you corrupter of Puppy Byung! Don’t be swayed Byung Yeon- the Prince and Ra On need you! "
Yeah. He worries me somehow especially his comment on the 3 kings. If he really is, I pray that Kim-hyung and YS will be at the CP's side to fight against evil.
But what Peeps wrote makes sense too. I just hope that the CP will be able to change his mind before it's too late
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Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 9:06 PM
Eunuch Han was part of the rebellion that was led by Ra-on's father (10yrs ago). He said that Ra-on's father and him were good friends.
If Ra-on's father was a bad and evil guy then we can say the same for Eunuch Han.
Yeong hasn't make the connection yet that Hong Ra-on is the rebel leader Hong Gyeong-nae's daughter.
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michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 9:32 PM
When I say evil, I guess I mean selfish and self serving like the Kims. Meaning Eunuch Han may be disillusioned, but he shouldn't do anything that will throw the whole country into anarchy/chaos in order to be not considered "evil".
For now I think he means well but I am worried he will overlook the fact that he could be helping Prince Yeong make a change and get rid of the Kims (or at least lessen their stronghold on power), in preference for "rebelling" just to shake things up because he doesnt like how useless the current King is.
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Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 10:33 PM
I see your point. He may not be powerful but he has eyes in the palace and an army of rebels at his disposal.
I think I'd give him the benefit of the doubt because he supported the rebellion for the people and he knows very well how corrupted the government officials are.
I think Byung-yeon is conflicted right now. His father was executed for helping Ra-on's father and the rebels. He has every right to seek revenge but he sees goodness and hope in Yeong because he cares about the people.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:53 PM
I thought Byung-yeon's father was only feeding them? Not that he had any active part in assisting their rebellion?
michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 11:02 PM
@maryxiah
Yeah he only fed them, but given the fact that these corrupt official would want to torture a little girl for treason, do you really expect any better of them? Im not surprised that they killed him for that alone.
Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 11:13 PM
Feeding them and giving them supplies means that he supports their cause. That's why he was executed.
maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:08 PM
Part of me was thinking, if Yeong had known Ra-on to be the rebel's daughter, he might delay Ra-on's reunion with her mother. But then he did ask Ra-on: “If, in a difficult moment, you must let something go… that must not be me. Can you promise me that?” That makes me think, could it be he knows?
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Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 10:36 PM
It's possible that he already knows while searching for her.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:56 PM
I'm hoping that he knows, because it'd be cruel if he had reunited them, only to find out he had just made it more impossible for them to be together.
celine
September 26, 2016 at 10:37 PM
My thoughts too!!! If Teacher Dasan already said to Yeong that the reunion of Mom and Ra-on will not bring them happiness, Yeong may have asked for more information which led to Teacher Dasan helping him reunite Mom and Ra-on. I don't think Yeong found the mother all on his own. And those words about not letting go of him even in the most difficult situation, he probably knows about her past already...
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Quillene Petite
September 26, 2016 at 9:30 PM
Love the comments!
Evil thoughts playing in my mind ...
Since the CP is for revamping the system in Joseon, His army is now Eunuch Han's... people based but they have to align forces but it's too dangerous to out his plans to Eunuch Han because he and his group have their own evil agenda.
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7 chaeyeon
September 26, 2016 at 8:33 PM
I feel really really really really bad for yoonsung...
and watching the preview for today's episode.. omg...
my poor yoonsung... T__T
please give him more love..
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suegarbaby
September 27, 2016 at 6:06 AM
Mee too~~! I feel bad that poor Yoon Sung hardly had much screen time in these past 3 episodes. I know that there is so much happening what with the Chief Eunuch Han reveal, the Queen Kim reveal and with all the palace machinations going on, but I really do want to see more of Yoon Sung! Heck, even the little lantern girl got more screen time than our poor Yoon Sung.
... but looking at the ep12 preview, we may get to see more of Yoon Sung after all!
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8 Tori
September 26, 2016 at 8:38 PM
Words cannot describe how in love I am with this drama in every aspect. I feel like when it's broken down the premise is simple but the quality of production, acting and everything all around from top to bottom just elevates it to a whole new level.
It's been a really long time since I've watched a drama I've loved so much because this drama has more heart and character in it than I've seen in quite a while. And honestly Yeong is the man we all need in our lives, someone who won't back down and willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish his dreams. There's just something about a character who's not willing to take no for an answer and just finds new ways to impress me that just captures my heart.
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9 Patitahm
September 26, 2016 at 8:38 PM
Don't worry, doom is coming, it usually comes in ep. 13 (sometimes is 12)
U.U
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SJH
September 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM
Based on preview, the doom will start tomorrow.. i can't... ?
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:27 PM
My motto in life is "let's get it over with". So doom/angst/heartbreak, come at me. hihi!
Beanies will be here to console one another, so no worries.
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neener
September 26, 2016 at 9:27 PM
Are we all prepared for the upcoming doom? Are we???
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luna
September 26, 2016 at 10:13 PM
me me me... im so welcoming the angst/doom
bring it on writer-nim!!!
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Elle
September 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM
I can never be prepared! I thought I was, going into this episode. And then I saw Yeong and Ra-on so in love and so in sync and now I just can't stand the thought of separation and angst.
That preview hurts me.
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Monmoondays
September 27, 2016 at 8:58 AM
I have not seen the preview and i was already crying by the end of the episode, i just feel great sadness is about to come. They both facing the reality that they may not be together.
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dilemmacan'tdecideaname
September 26, 2016 at 10:37 PM
No, not me. I'm not ready :(
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:58 PM
I'm ready, I just don't want it to go over an episode, I wish they resolve all the angst, all the political plot in a swift and efficient manner because I certainly don't want to dwell in misery for too long.
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michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 11:29 PM
I'm ready for it to come, so that it will then go! Lol.
I feel like I'm on tenderhooks constantly waiting for something bad to happen, so much so that I can't enjoy the cute moments that much.
Once the angst and doom pass, then we can bask in the cute once again! Because I'm sure that this adorable pair can make me smile even if I'm crying my eyes out just before that. ?
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10 kimbabie_
September 26, 2016 at 8:41 PM
As much as I love Ra-on and Yeong together, I need more screen time for Yoon-sung. He's intriguing and I want to find out more about him.
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delurked
September 26, 2016 at 9:00 PM
+1
I mean, the writer of the original source material also said that Yoon-sung was her favourite character, right? I'm dying to know why!
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:09 PM
I think she already explained why she is partial to Yoonsung in her interview. She said that Yoonsung is such a pitiful, heart-wrenching character given that he's under his grandfather and he suffers from one-sided love. Therefore, she feels for him as a character.
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Annika
September 26, 2016 at 9:11 PM
It's because he's the most pitiful character according to the original novel writer. Like his grandpa taught him how to smile properly not to show any other emotion kind of teaching him how to put on a show on his face. That's so sad.
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Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 9:41 PM
Because she made him pitiful. He's probably the sacrificial lamb for Ra-on and Yeong to have a happy ending.
The fortune teller/ face reader or whatever he was in earlier episodes predicted that one would die early and the other would be a good king.
At the time, Yeong and Yoon-sung were switching clothes. Yoon-sung-sung was wearing the prince's clothes and Yeong was wearing Yoon-sung's.
I really think it means that Yoon-sung will be the one that will die young instead of Yeong. Kind of an interesting fate switch. I'd take that over switch at birth lol.
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delurked
September 26, 2016 at 9:47 PM
? That's intriguing!! I totally forgot the prophecy/fortune part.
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michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 9:53 PM
AHH! thank you for this. That scene was bugging me because I was wondering why Prince Yeong was wearing less "princely" clothes that Yoon Sung.
So now it makes more sense. they swapped clothes! (sorry first time Saeguk watcher here so I still don't know a lot about their clothes and stuff)
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Catgirl
September 26, 2016 at 10:09 PM
OH NO. I mean, if that's true then I'm happy that CP can avoid death, but I kind of don't want Yoon-sung to die young either! His character is intriguing and a little sad... Can they both just have their happily ever after? :(
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:13 PM
Omg, I totally missed that. I didn't know they switched clothes! But I don't see how Yeong would have ruled as a king if it was never stated in the history as well.
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Kiara
September 26, 2016 at 10:42 PM
It could mean that he would rule as regent with kingly authority or that he was honored and regarded as a king. He is also known as King Munjo in history.
maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:02 PM
I could accept it if he ruled as regent, but if he was to rule as king, it should have shown on the timeline, which didn't happen, even if they did honor him as King Munjo in history. But didn't they honor him as a king simply because his son ascended the throne? His son couldn't succeed as king without honoring his father as the king.
Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM
He would still ascend the throne because he was the only heir.
It took years for Yi-san to elevate his father's status to emperor. Yeong's son was very young when his father died. I think he had to go through the same process before his father was honored as king.
celine
September 26, 2016 at 10:16 PM
Whoa! Really??!! They were wearing each other's clothes? Omo! And all this time, I saw it as somehow historically accurate for Yeong... I have to watch it again! OMG! This is a revelation! Damn, should I be paying attention to details such as clothes too on top of paying attention to every single little movements of PBG's micro-expression?
Thank you for pointing out that detail.
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stuffed
September 26, 2016 at 11:07 PM
Is this true? Because god knows how many times I repeated that scene to make sure that they are who they are but I was pretty sure they we wearing exactly what the face reader mentioned. YS is the one with the crane-embroidered head-gear who is said to have the face of a great king. Is it possible for the CP to give YS his throne?
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:37 PM
Or maybe the face reading happened before they switched clothes, we have no way of knowing the order of events based on the short flashback.
Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 12:13 AM
Thank you! I went back and re-watch it many times and you are right, I'm the one who made a mistake. I thought they switched headgear sorry guys.
No It's not possible for CP to give YS his throne.
I think I'm trying too hard to figure out a way for Yeong and Ra-on to have a happy ending lol.
I still think the record will say that Yeong died. That would be the only way for him to leave the palace and live with Ra-on.
Yoon-sung has the face of a king but that's it. He didn't say he will become a king or live a long life.
michykdrama
September 27, 2016 at 1:52 AM
@kiara
oh Im sad again. haha.
But can I ask, since if I'm not wrong you are well versed on Saeguks (from the OT thread)- Is the Prince always supposed to dress different from YS and BY? As in I am just wondering if there was a reason why was Yoon Sung wearing the whole elaborate head gear? Or is it that the head gear and outfit is not very important, in that any one can wear it and it doesnt mean anything.
Because people can tell Prince Yeong is the Crown Prince from his attire now, (which is why he changes out when he is going about incognito) so I am wondering if that would be the case last time as well.
maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 2:21 AM
@michykdrama Well, I could be wrong but I think they wore the headpiece because they were students (I noticed the Sungkyunkwan students were wearing similar headpiece?). As for the design, I think it's a symbol of higher social status. I'd assume everyone in the palace would recognize the crown prince based on his face alone. But people on the streets wouldn't, so he could just have a change of clothes and go incognito.
Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 8:35 AM
Don't be sad girls. This show is too light hearted to end tragically.
I just hope they are not going to do those alternate endings or open ending. It doesn't need to be complicated.
Su
September 26, 2016 at 11:49 PM
Was it clear in the show that they actually switched clothes?
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Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 12:16 AM
No not at all. That was just me mixing it up.
maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 1:00 AM
Aww, now we're back to square one where Yeong dies young and Yoon-sung has the face of a king.
celine
September 27, 2016 at 2:39 AM
Faking his death would be the way to go OR the writer decides to hell with history and make him live long and be a king.
SJH
September 26, 2016 at 11:58 PM
Really? You make my day.. I really hope Yeong and Ra-On have happy ending somewhere outside palace. Maybe Yoonsung will rule and die young after Yeong give him the throne.
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Myuu
September 27, 2016 at 12:17 AM
Knowing history and knowing the fate of the Crown Prince, that wasn't a good omen. If you know the life of Crown Prince Hyomyeong...it is quite sad.
I just hope that this story will give a good twist in it.
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helloghost
September 27, 2016 at 1:27 AM
hey, i just saw the episode where the face reader appeared (ep 2, around 50:02) he said the one who was wearing a headgear with cranes embroidery has the face of a king, which is Yoon-sung. The scene specifically panned over to the crane and doesn't show which image Yeong has in his headgear, so that means the CP still destined to die young and Yoonsung has the face of a king. ?
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delurked
September 27, 2016 at 2:02 AM
MY GAT - NOO ?
kimbabie_
September 27, 2016 at 4:07 AM
EHHHH?? Yeong and Yoon-sung were switching clothes at that time?? I. TOTALLY. DID. NOT. NOTICE.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 5:18 AM
LOL, I don't know why but this cracks me up. No, it was a misunderstanding, read up, we got it mixed up.
Elle
September 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM
Honestly I just want him to confess already so Ra-on can reject him properly. I'm not really fan of his assumption that she will go to him once Yeong breaks her heart.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:31 PM
And boy was I glad that finally Yeong was able to tell Hayeon that he loves someone else. Come their wedding day, Hayeon knows that the marriage is merely a political device and it is best that she also knows that he has someone else he truly loves. I really like that Yeong is a straight shooter. He's not one to make you confused.
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Elle
September 26, 2016 at 10:03 PM
I love that Yeong is straight with her. At least Ha-yeon won't have any illusions once they're married.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:17 PM
Yeong has been straight with her since day one, and never in any way entertain any thoughts of hers. But I'm glad that at least she knows he's in love with someone else.
celine
September 26, 2016 at 10:20 PM
Exactly. Although with her determined personality, I will not be surprised if she will try to woo him into falling for her. Pfft! Good luck with that.
SJH
September 27, 2016 at 12:01 AM
Yes, i want him to confess too so all the feelings are clear to each other. Especially if he must die in the end.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 2:23 AM
i don't think Yoon-sung would confess knowing Yeong has Ra-on's heart, he's just doing the gentleman thing of waiting out for Ra-on to be broken-hearted over Yeong's engagement and eventually notice him.
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imbuk
September 26, 2016 at 11:32 PM
I, on the other hand, need more screen time for chae soo bin. I love her character, she is so straight forward about things especially in her scene today with the crown prince and somehow that makes her endearing to me and hence different from all the second leads we have come to expect. I don't want her to get married to the prince but I would love to see more of her.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:41 PM
She seems like a really nice girl and I want her to be with someone who will love her. Kim Hyung? Yoonsung?
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imbuk
September 27, 2016 at 1:48 AM
Me too! I loved yoon sung and ha yeon's scene together few episodes back and I wanted them to get together and have more scenes. But, I don't think our story has time for that anymore. Maybe, they'll get married because master of sabotage (awesome name for him, javabeans :) ) seems determined to get them married and then they'll probably figure out that they are perfect for each other? :p
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GedSkaiKru
September 27, 2016 at 6:05 AM
I don't know if it's just me, but I really see chemistry with Ha Yeon and Yoon Sung, plus they understand each other emotionally..I hope the writer-nim give everyone a happy ending...I'm not one for overly manipulated plots, but for this one, a happy ending for everyone and happy ever afters is something I'd really appreciate..especially after reading CP Hyeomyeong's history...sigh...
celine
September 27, 2016 at 6:36 AM
They do have chemistry and they have the same love plight. I hope they find comfort and love with each other.
SJH
September 27, 2016 at 12:04 AM
Yes, i like her character too. Both second leads are quite nice and i cannot hate them as long as they didnot become evil later.
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11 michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 8:42 PM
This is show which will launch a thousand, no a million, scratch that, a billion female crushes on PBG.
Seriously, where can you find a guy that looks like that, is adorable like that, and is swoony like that? And is smart too? His character has just the right amount of self doubt to be endearing and avoid being too arrogant, and that broken past that makes you want to care for him and mother him.
Every episode they add on something that makes him even more perfect to me!
And you know whenever characters are Too Perfect, they aren't meant to be in this world for too long because they get called back to heaven to be Angels.
I'm in complete denial though. *continues to smile idiotically at her gifs, ignoring the metaphorical truck of angst and doom I feel is coming*
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delurked
September 26, 2016 at 9:02 PM
Face that launched a thousand ships, indeed. (And of course, each of those ships involve PBG-us as the OTP ?)
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stuffed
September 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM
Let us stare at the gifs too pretty please. LOL
That look he gave her *melts into puddle of ice cream*
On second thought, maybe it's not a good idea as I'm at work now. I might squeal uncontrollably.
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michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 9:21 PM
Not that I want you to squeal at work but...
Which look are you referring to?
So that I can be sure to gif it. hahahaha.
I take no responsibly for whatever sounds happen after that. My gifs are silent. XD
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stuffed
September 26, 2016 at 10:18 PM
Oh! I meant to write his stare. See, even my thoughts are incoherent already
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michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 10:46 PM
hahaha! it's ok Im the same.
I posted that the gifs were up below but i didnt add in the link! lol
Anyway for you to (silently) squeal over at work. Hope you end work early today! :)
https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/gifs-to-get-us-through-the-angst-to-come/
delurked
September 27, 2016 at 2:06 AM
OMG @Michykdrama your gifs are THE BEST. ? ??
I died at that cheek tap. I died.
dilemmacan'tdecideaname
September 26, 2016 at 11:14 PM
Let me melts with you into PGB puddle of goodness
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Quillene Petite
September 26, 2016 at 9:16 PM
Hi, Michykdrama!
We're just a little halfway so don't worry... they're not perfect yet. hahaha!
I just love how real the depictions and who well-written the characters are.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:37 PM
He really is the "It Guy" these days. Thank goodness he has great talent to go with his good looks, so no one can say that he only got popular because he's such a handsome young man. I became his fan because of his talent first. Well... he was still an adorkable kid when I first saw him act and not the manly dude he is now, so that could be why I did not notice much the handsome face. hihi
Speaking of the guy, KBS Entertainment Weekly just had an almost 10 minutes special on PBG's charms! I laughed! I hope we get subs soon.
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delurked
September 26, 2016 at 9:48 PM
@Celine Really!? Hahaha, have to get my hands on thatttt
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 10:23 PM
Found it! KBS World yt account already posted it. Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-e2Hx9ft1E
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delurked
September 27, 2016 at 2:17 AM
I smiled so hard for the whole video that my face split into two.
"Bo-gum MAGIC"
NN
September 27, 2016 at 5:11 AM
@Celine - this is a great clip, thanks!
bomi98
September 26, 2016 at 10:07 PM
Kbs world yt already have it.
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aceyyy
September 26, 2016 at 10:20 PM
WILL YOU WAIT AS I MAKE SUCH A COUNTRY FOR YOU HE SAID. MAKE. A. COUNTRY. FOR YOU.
THESE KIDS ARE KILLING ME.
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michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 10:59 PM
haha! yeah... very few people can actually say that and mean it XD
I might just try and gif that once I get my hands on a version of this episode with the subs included. <3
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aceyyy
September 26, 2016 at 11:12 PM
Aww that's nice! Yeah the other series where I loved this kind of exchange was in City Hall, when they were sketching out her hopeful plans for the town together.
I don't know how you do it when you gif, but this was another episode big on his little expressions - I was screenshotting the minute changes as they came along eg when he was flopped on the writing table (squishyface!) and in the scene with the queen (pokerface!).
Then when he helped the little lantern girl up and his face was lit just like that by the sun, he looked so regal in that - yet moments after that princely regalia made him look sad and forlorn as he approached Ra-on from behind (sadface :()
And of course especially in the sunset scene right before he reunites her with her mom the little changes in his hopeful, wistful looks just kill me as he acts with full awareness that he might be setting in motion a chain of actions that may not be advantageous to him but all he asks for in return are a simple promise (I normally don't pay much attention to episode titles, but I LOVE how this series calls back to them in multiple layers) - his empathy when it comes to her mom (every time PBG pines for his mom) it just kills me. Dead.
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michykdrama
September 27, 2016 at 3:35 AM
I did it! haha. Enjoy and swoon over Prince Yeong.
https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/gifs-to-get-us-through-the-angst-to-come/
(The one you inspired is the 3rd last gif)
:)
aceyyy
September 27, 2016 at 7:26 AM
Squeee! Thanks ?
celine
September 27, 2016 at 2:42 AM
Yeong is killin' me with his lines and sincerity. Ughh How to be Ra-on? lol
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 5:25 AM
That scene killed me inside. There he was being all swoony and making promises to make a better nation for her, a nation where she could freely be his woman, if we didn't know any better, he'd have convinced us he'd be a better king for his people, only he never made it in history. *bawling*
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aceyyy
September 27, 2016 at 7:33 AM
Ugh I know right ? It's terribly morbid but I keep matching his age in the drama against... How much time I know he has left. I think he was regent for three years and since the drama mentioned he's past his 20th birthday I just... ?
while watching reply 1988 my whole internal monologue was like Taekieeeee even though I know it's not going to be you (I had to tell myself that all the way up to ep18, to "prepare" myself), and I recently finished watching hello monster where I was like poor puppy... But killer puppy ? And here as well, despite the squee, I always have to rein it in, for the historical inevitability...
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12 Alyssa
September 26, 2016 at 8:43 PM
A bit of a slow episode for me. This episode feels like the calm before the storm...my heart is ready for all the doom that's about to befall upon us :( Get your hearts and tissues ready, beanies!
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:04 PM
I was actually a wee bit disappointed that we did not see the much-anticipated angst and imminent separation in this episode because I was ready. hihi I made sure to prepare myself over the week. Not that I want them to be separated. I just want it to happen asap, so they can work their way through reunion and taking down the bad guys. I guess the show is saving it for this week's cliffhanger.
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Quillene Petite
September 26, 2016 at 9:18 PM
I'm actually glad he made her promise first that if there ever was something difficult to go through and let go of, it would not be him.
In a way, I think he is preparing himself and he also is giving her a head's up so now that they've promised, he can buckle down for battle.
Shrewd king this one! Love it!
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:41 PM
Yeah and Yeong asked her to wait for him until he makes the new Joseon. That was a wonderful scene. It shows that whatever happens from here on out, their love for each other stands. At least they have that understanding. I just don't know how Ra-on's identity as the daughter of Hong Leader will factor in. I'd like to believe that it will not affect their love for each other.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:20 PM
Since Yeong has established himself as a really trustworthy guy, I'm gonna believe he'll make anything happen. Even a happy future with Ra-on where they'll have Ra-on (joy) for the rest of their lives. I'm starting to like using the word of Ra-on every chance I get.
SJH
September 26, 2016 at 9:10 PM
Indeed.. i know the angst is coming but i'm still not ready.. will prepare my heart again for the heartbreak..
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13 lostmysanity
September 26, 2016 at 8:46 PM
Kind of didn't like how helpless she was in front of the queen, but I guess there was nothing she could do with her status. Though it feels too common that every time she's in trouble the CP will have to help her time and time again.
She recovered a bit quickly from the incident with the queen though, I feel that she seemed so fine after that but I guess I shouldn't be one to judge.
On a side note, as a eunuch she seems to be mostly carrying books and in the royal library looking for books that the CP never seems to read :') just thought it was funny
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Elle
September 26, 2016 at 9:20 PM
To be fair, it's been established early on that eunuchs are especially vulnerable to the whims of the royals. Eunuch Sung gets literally thrown out by Yeong and everyone takes at as normal. I can't see how Ra-on can save herself when she's directly in their line of fire.
I'm not surprised Ra-on was able to recover from her confrontation with the Queen. This is the same girl who was almost (a) thrown into a dung/piss-filled pit by gangsters and (b) killed by the princess. She survived on the streets with only a somewhat undependable surrogate dad for company. She's lived a hard life. She's resilient.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:50 PM
There's nothing she could do to save herself. And it will always be Yeong who will save her because, aside from Yeong will always want to keep her safe, she is part of the eunuchs who serve Yeong. The King, Queen, Prince etc. each has their own set of eunuchs and court ladies. Yeong is like Ra-on's boss and so he will look out for his people.
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Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 12:55 AM
I miss the street smart Ra-on from the first 2 eps. She was hilarious and resourceful. She is more of a damsel in distress inside the palace walls.
I think those books are records of the prince's daily activities etc that she is writing down. The historiographers were expected to do the same for the king.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 1:15 AM
But I actually love the fact that Ra-on was so conscious of her status as eunuch in the palace, everytime she tried being bright and resourceful, she ended up causing trouble and I think that's why she was restraining herself, in order not to cause more trouble for Yeong. And she can't help being a damsel in distress anyway, palace servants are pretty much disposable, she had to rely on Yeong. That's what bf are for.
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Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 9:11 AM
Yea I get it that it's necessary for them to be close in order for their relationship to develop and she is expected to behave in a certain manner but still.
I guess that's why I'm not a fan of palace romance. It's suffocating to be at the lowest rank. The constant need to be rescued by someone with higher authority can get old pretty fast.
Does that even make any sense?
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 9:48 AM
I get where you're coming from. If this was modern age drama, we'd be rolling our eyes from the heroine lack of self-reliance. Though I do agree that Yeong has been constantly saving Ra-on from danger, I do think that in some ways Yeong relied on Ra-on as well, other than the emotional comfort of having her by his side, she has proven useful for him when she saved the dance for him, find ways to proof the food wasn't poison and etc. So it wasn't just one-sided.
I just find comfort in that she's the more level-headed one, despite being the more emotional one, she's more cautious of prying eyes than Yeong, because everytime they sneaked around together, they get so close of giving me heart attack.
celine
September 27, 2016 at 2:45 AM
I miss EP 1-2 Raon as well. However, being her old spunky self will only get her in deeper trouble in the palace when as a eunuch you are expected to just follow. I am actually excited to see her exit the palace some time soon. She will be less conscious of her actions and be less anxious for her safety, but then she'd be anxious for Yeong's.
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Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 9:16 AM
Yes and that's why a good ending would be for them to leave that dang palace. Their relationship is not based on politics.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 1:08 AM
I've actually seen a few scenes where Yeong was reading, but I don't want much of that scene, that'd take time away from much interesting plot.
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14 celine
September 26, 2016 at 8:53 PM
I just love JB's comments on this episode. I can only wish that I have the same talent in writing my thoughts in such wonderful, clear words. She echoed my feelings about this episode.
"it feels that this relationship is maturing before our very eyes"
Indeed. As much as I enjoyed the banters and fluff that have been showered to us in the past episodes, this right here is the beginning of what will test the relationship and show how much YeongOn has matured. What decisions will they make for their love?
"these two are so well-matched that it feels like their bond transcends romantic feelings... They make each other better people... his love for her is spurring him to see the world differently and find ways to improve it"
Indeed one of the things I truly love about YeongOn is that they complement each other, they learn from each other, and they depend on each other. One may be a Prince and the other a girl disguised as a eunuch, but these two never felt imbalanced in their relationship. They're so in-tune with each other that I never felt that one is pulling the weight more than the other. Sure Ra-on gets in trouble, but given her guise and her place in the palace, it's bound to keep on happening. In her own little ways, Ra-on is helping and saving Yeong as well. Her words have spurred him to action to do what is right many a times. How can we not root for these two? /cries
Oh and YeongOn is now the official name of OTP. Korean media and even their own crew/staff call them YeongOn. <3
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delurked
September 26, 2016 at 9:16 PM
“... these two never felt imbalanced in their relationship.”
Truthfully, I did feel that the difference in status (eunuch-king, Joseon woman-man) did affect my perception of their relationship at first. While it was easy to squee over Yeong during the earlier episodes, I personally found it a little less natural to root for YeongOn as a couple, especially when Yeong took the active-wooing stance while Ra-on struggled for about an episode or so. A relationship is built on reciprocity, after all!
But ever since Ra-on came to terms with her identity as a woman in love with Yeong and allowed that to shine through her (KYJ really sold the look of a woman in love this episode!), I can say that they've really become well-matched.
???
Now, let the angst begin! HAHA
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lizzieb
September 26, 2016 at 9:40 PM
Seriously. KYJ is just nailing it. I'm in love with the way she looks at him, and I'm never this way. I'm always gushing only about lead guys and their gazes. Here I absolutely love them both. They radiate warmth and unconditional love that it just translates so well on screen.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM
Long after this drama ends, I will still thank the drama gods for putting PBG and KYJ as the leads of Moonlight. They're perfect! They just nail every scene and every little emotion.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:26 PM
The way they look at each other is just perfect, filled with love, affection and adoration. It's a textbook look for a couple so deeply in love. Their chemistry certainly does it for us.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:25 PM
Did you see how assertive she has been after coming into terms with her feeling? I feel like she loosen up a lot around Yeong too. She was practically giddy at the sight of Yeong and wasn't afraid to show it. I like that Yeong was the one doing the wooing, I feel like it's a gentleman way to do it, but I also like the way Ra-on reciprocate his gesture, not overly cheesy, but warm and gentle and giddy, just the way we would when we have our first loves.
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delurked
September 27, 2016 at 2:18 AM
+100!
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Quillene Petite
September 26, 2016 at 9:21 PM
YeongOn... yeah! bring on more YeongOn! Can't wait for tonight! :)
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:22 PM
Yeah, one of the reason why I love reading JB's recap is to read her thoughts/take on the drama. I love how articulate she is in presenting her thoughts, it's like she read my mind and presented it in a way everyone would agree.
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imbuk
September 26, 2016 at 11:49 PM
I loved javabeans comments and insights too! It kind of gave me clarity. Thank you, javabeans. :)
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celine
September 27, 2016 at 2:55 AM
JB puts all our incoherent, muddled, mushed thoughts into clear words, especially in episodes where our emotions have taken the best of us. How she does it, I don't know because for sure JB squeals just like us (maybe even more hehe). Thank goodness we have her in our midst. hihi!
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15 passmethewrinch
September 26, 2016 at 8:55 PM
I really do fear where the story goes on from here. At this point, there really seems to be no way for that happily ever after for our Yeong and Ra On. I am really hoping that I have not trusted this show too much with my heart or else there will be lots of tears in my future. I know pain and doom are on their way but there better be huge recompense at the end!!
Also, PBG eyes' just still continue to entrance me week after week. I'm already dreading not seeing him regularly on my screen...
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 10:41 PM
Moonlight is far from over but I am already dreading not seeing PBG and KYJ on screen after it ends. :(
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kayak
September 26, 2016 at 10:52 PM
I'm dreading the end. There better be no Happy Ever Afterlife type of ending.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:06 PM
I'm dreading no YeongOn on my screen. And yeah, no afterlife happily ever after. I cried when they did that on Shine or Go Crazy. That drama certainly went crazy.
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16 stuffed
September 26, 2016 at 8:56 PM
It's amazing to see how CP managed to one-up himself in every single episode. For every conflict that he is presented with, he grows to be more mature thanks to the wise words of wisdom he gets from his mother and teacher Dasan.
I almost forgot that this is the same CP whom we were introduced to earlier in the show but I am thankful that the writer still retains the goofy side of him.
THIS
"...it feels that this relationship is maturing before our very eyes, and it feels appropriate to where they are: feelings confirmed, hearts on the same page, finding joy purely in each other’s presence."
and THIS
"I get the sense that Yeong is growing as a person through his love for Ra-on, and not in the sense that he only does good things to benefit her. Rather, it feels like his love for her is spurring him to see the world differently and find ways to improve it"
For a show that claims to be a youthful romance, I beg to differ. This should be reworded as youthful but mature romance, one that transcends any other romantic pairings out there who claim to make mature decisions for the sake of others but never considered how the others really felt. Okay, I should probably stop here here before I spurt out more nonsense.
Thanks JB!
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17 rasonic
September 26, 2016 at 8:57 PM
Every episode of this drama has been amazing! I can't wait for it to keep getting better :) Moonlight 화이팅!
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18 TDEK
September 26, 2016 at 8:58 PM
It's very rare for a drama to make me care so much for the characters. This drama is defintely one of the rare ones.
There are many instances whereby I would watch a drama with an intensely gripping plot and while I do enjoy it very much but for some odd reason I can never connect to the characters on an emotional level at all.
But this one.
It's a pretty simple story but it made me feel SO MUCH for the characters. Its the type of story that touches on emotions. And I really like that.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 9:58 PM
I feel you. Moonlight's plot may not be grand but it serves with heaps of heart and emotions. I am sucked in. It is really the overall work of the production team and the wonderful cast that made this drama special despite its familiar setup.
"There are many instances whereby I would watch a drama with an intensely gripping plot and while I do enjoy it very much but for some odd reason I can never connect to the characters on an emotional level at all."
Yep. I felt this too very recently in the insane plot of W. I stuck with the show for its plot, but I did not connect with the characters and I was not sold with the romance.
I guess this only shows the vast range of drama offerings out there that we can choose from. There are those we watch for the plot and others for the characters.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:27 PM
I think it's the simple things that tug at heartstring, because we can connect to the simple things as if we're the one going through it, a feeling that transcends time and space.
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19 kurazo4
September 26, 2016 at 9:00 PM
That last scene is so heart-wrenching. *sobs*
Thanks a lot for the very fast recap! You're awesome! *wink*
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20 jessanno
September 26, 2016 at 9:01 PM
I loved this episode! This drama continues to hit the mark for me week after week. I am quite satisfied with how it is progressing.
Yeong is such a dream boat! Seriously, I love the way he loves Ra On. He knows what he wants. He anticipates her words and emotions and acts accordingly. And the same goes for her. Ra On knew the poisoning was bothering him and she decided to help ease his burden. They are quite the pair! I just want them to be happy forever!
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21 kimchikay
September 26, 2016 at 9:08 PM
Great Episode! That moment when Ra-On was almost undressed by the queen had me on pins and needles…I knew it wouldn't really happen but still….!ACK!
My prediction is a happy ending….Ra On is the rebel's daughter, Crown Prince wants to resolve the impending uprising thats happening…what better way to resolve the issue then by having Ra On and Crown Prince married? So I'm pretty sure she'll marry Crown Prince in the end - after another 6 episodes of puppy angst and turmoil….
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dilemmacan'tdecideaname
September 26, 2016 at 10:26 PM
I was screaming at my computer "where are you Yeong, Ra-on need you!" and then when he said go ahead and the queen was able to...I scream where are you head ennuch?!!!
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Dahlia
September 26, 2016 at 10:36 PM
That's my thoughts exactly. It will be a love and political marriage at the same time.
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Kiara
September 27, 2016 at 1:01 AM
A daughter of a rebel leader would never be allowed to marry a prince let alone the future king but this drama is far from authentic so anything can happen.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 2:37 AM
I wish that's the least of their problem, but she's committed a crime by cross-dressing as an eunuch, basically deceiving the king, and she's of low born too.
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celine
September 27, 2016 at 3:00 AM
Yeah, the writer has taken a lot of liberties already. Sure they used some historical figures, but they can do whatever fits the story they have in mind as long as it's not completely ludicrous. This is not even straight up/strictly sageuk anyway. I kind of take comfort in this thought.
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pickledplumtree
September 29, 2016 at 2:44 PM
Exactly my thoughts! It actually seems like it could end wrapped up in a pretty bow.
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22 lizzieb
September 26, 2016 at 9:13 PM
Here again in the middle of the night, as it is simply impossible to sleep without responding to Moonlight Moonday.
Our Yeong is growing more and more confident each episode that it makes me scared of just how crushed he might get once he finds out what happened to his mom. I'm not ready to find out myself, and I'm definitely not ready to watch him break. So I hope, I really do hope we get to have or see more people help him without a personal agenda. Like I maybe even want to see Ha-Yeon be a friend Yeong can trust. Eehhhh okay, I dunno, we'll see eh?
'Cause it looks like the broship with Yoon-Sung isn't sailing anytime soon. ?
The feet shots! They kill me every single time, and this time I just couldn't take Ra-On keeping it all together and then break down like that. I'm so happy she gets to have her mom back after all. I cried buckets. Do you guys think Yeong has been made aware of what Hong Ra-On's role is in all this? Teacher might have told him when he let RO find and meet mom because:
“If, in a difficult moment, you must let something go… that must not be me. Can you promise me that?”
I'll try not to think about that for now.
Finally. #YeongForPresident
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Lessa
September 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM
#YeongForPresident should be an official trending twitter hashtag
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23 Jana
September 26, 2016 at 9:14 PM
Dear Crown Prince Lee Yeong, the Wish Granter.
My wish is to find a person who would love me like how you love Ra On. It would be an added bonus if he looks anything like you. But since you're in the Joseon-era, I'll take your lookalike from the modern-era whose name happens to be Park Bogum. Please make my wish come true. Thank you and I love you.
P.S you're not obliged to reciprocate the 'I love you' because I know that your 'I love yous' are for Ra On only.
P.P.S Promise me that you won't get hurt and that you will live happily ever after with Ra On. <3
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CaLex
September 27, 2016 at 12:23 AM
i was laughing so hard with your comment. A lot of girls are wishing for a Prince Yeong or a Park Bo Gum in their lives!!!
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celine
September 27, 2016 at 3:02 AM
Korean viewers are so envious of Ra-on because she's the receiving end of all of Yeong's affections and by extension, of PBG's. They want to hate her but they can't because Yoojung is playing her. hahaha! Also they love YeongOn together.
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24 Quillene Petite
September 26, 2016 at 9:14 PM
I love how this show is evolving. Using a play on words/silence, reality that the characters are in, and imagery that make it very poignant to us who are watching... all from the outside looking in.
Concealment in different forms are beautifully presented and uncovered with each episode. First, it was superficial... clothing and name changes. Then, we see a deeper, darker side as we learn about duty, family, ambition, and even fate and how all of these weigh down a person hiding something.
We see a shrewd king in the CP which is why the king has been left flailing and always taunting his own incapacity as his main disability.
The gambit that the prince takes is spurred on by the love he has received from his mother, the advice of Teacher Dasan and his and Ra-on's feelings for each other.
I personally think that the CP's underlying motive of decapitating the Kim clan is still utmost and the only question now, with the power struggle is that who will draw first blood.
I think the CP has started with the release of the little lantern girl. I just hope Eunuch Han was able to see that.
It is but natural to wish our heroes (and heroine) come out unscathed but then ... to let them win this early would be just like pulling the plug on this riveting drama. So, I happily settle in to look forward to the next episode... and the next... and the next...
Cheers, beanies!
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 10:57 PM
Me too! I like how this show employs parallelism in the story lines tied with the episode's theme. In addition, the use of imagery and play on words are nice touches too. It shows the attention to details. I almost forgot about the wishes tbh. I thought it served its purpose in the episode about wishes, but here it is again nicely tied to the story and character development.
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Anh
September 27, 2016 at 1:00 AM
I love the parallelism of the title of ep and the episode's plot too. It kinda give hint to what will happen in the ep. I also love how small problems arise and solved within 1-2 episodes that contribute to the slow revelation of the bigger issue.
Each episode is just a clean cut instead of drag that some dramas tend to tune into
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25 Anh
September 26, 2016 at 9:16 PM
Omg! Can we discuss how Yeong let Raon meet her mother, knowing how that would make everything more impossible for them to be together?
Im sure the plan was for Master Jung to adopt Raon, but letting Raon reunite with her mother, that plan is trashed.
And when he asked her not to let go of him no matter what, I feel forboding future, maybe he has to marry Ha yeon, set the country straight, then come to raon? That ehy he asked he to wait no matter how long it takes and how hurtful it is to wait? To be the first person in his new Joseon
Gawd! The feels in this ep
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helios
September 27, 2016 at 6:09 AM
+1 My favourite kind of drama conflict is when two people reasonably cannot be together and unknowingly worsen those chances. The anticipation for how they will be written out of that impossibility and feeling catharsis from the wrap-up is always the best haha.
It's sad but heartwarming that LY tells RO to wait for him. They have so much faith in their love for one another. :) If RO does have to wait, I hope it's not for a long time, otherwise it would be too tragic if they reunite years down the track. Plus, I don't think this is that type of drama.
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26 Quillene Petite
September 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM
I love the Meet the Parents episode by the way... CP... meet your in-laws! hahaha!
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:07 PM
LOL, it's a shame Ra-on hasn't met hers though she did meet Yeong's stepmothers.
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27 Wanne
September 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM
Thank you so much Javabeans!
Watched 15minutes of the episode and had to stop due to work. *wails*
Been refreshing this website though because i just need to say, i was expecting an angsty episode.. Actually, we've been expecting that episode by episode, yet they still manage to make it sweet and heart-warming. Seriously love this drama so much!!
I have a feeling it will be a happy ending for our couple and i can only see it happening by CP living as normal people with RO outside the palace, either people know or not and history write him as dead.
Somehow, with this writer and the storytelling so far, i feel that we are in good hands.
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28 Mina
September 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM
I want to Eunuch Jjang to burn Seja Joha's Lakers jersey... I mean, purple and yellow hanbok because it's so fugly!
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Elle
September 26, 2016 at 9:30 PM
I'm not a fan of it on its own, but I think it looks glorious in the light of the setting sun.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:01 PM
Me too. I think it fit the scene with that wonderful sky. I'm not a big fan of his bright colored clothes though. PBG manages to rock them still (and the hanbok designer raved about him in traditional clothes), but I prefer darker tones. My fave is the maroon one he wore when he rescued Ra-on from the Qing envoy.
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Ren
September 27, 2016 at 2:32 AM
That there was my PGB moment. That right there, that moment in slo mo, when he stepped out from behind Byung Hun.... all dressed in maroon and burgundy..... That was when I decided I wanted to adopt a PGB dongsaeng.
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celine
September 27, 2016 at 3:08 AM
He was just so damn regal in those dark colors. He looks great in the royal blue garb, but I find it to be too flowy. hihi I like the ones where his waist is cinched and he's got arm bands of some sort just like Kim Hyung.
maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:09 PM
What? I thought he rocked every hanbok he wore on the show!
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blnmom
September 27, 2016 at 4:56 AM
LOL. And, dang it. Now I'm going to be thinking of sports teams every time he gets a new hanbok.
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29 Cathy
September 26, 2016 at 9:26 PM
I love the evil queen so much!!! A true witch in this fairy tale. I love her. I looove her!!! (Seriously, the actress is amazing!)
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:30 PM
And I love the evil look on her face, makes it easier for me to hate her.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:06 PM
YES! The Queen rocks being evil! I dread seeing her onscreen because she is that good at being evil. On the other hand, I love seeing her because she has a commanding presence, especially when she is being evil like in this episode. I was so anxious the whole time when she wanted to reveal Ra-on. That scene is one of my faves. I just love the mind games that went between her and Yeong. I do agree with JB that Yeong played it a bit too far this time and it could have ended badly, but he was very calculating.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:10 PM
Did you see the glint in her eyes everytime she has this evil thought or when she was challenging Yeong? Oof, she send shivers down my spine.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:46 PM
I was on pins and needles whenever she's on screen /shivers/ especially since Ra-on is understandably helpless in front of her. I was worried that Yeong's expression will betray him. Thank goodness he was able to hold it in the entire time.
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Ren
September 27, 2016 at 2:35 AM
How good is she!! She gives me the shivers and I'm not even in fairytale drama land inside the TV.
You know an actress is good when you buy that evilness and believe it for real.
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imbuk
September 27, 2016 at 1:52 AM
Yes, she is too scary. Her scornful expressions are all so amazing.
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thursdaynexxt
September 27, 2016 at 7:20 AM
That showdown was one of the best moments of the show!! My heart was pounding like I'd just watched a mad action scene straight outta The K2!
The queen gives me chills. She was so pantingly eager to get her claws into Ra-On that I half expected her to sprout fangs and go all red-eyed. Since she's pretending that she's pregnant with a royal son when she's really carrying a baby girl, I pity the girl and the poor surrogate pregnant court lady who's going to come to no good end at the hands of the scheming queen!
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30 maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 9:27 PM
This show is not only good with the ending, it's good with the preview as well. I was so convinced on the last preview that Ra-on's identity will be uncovered and she'd face death sentence, I was raking my brain thinking how Yeong would've gotten her out of the situation. And I was apprehended thinking today's episode might end up in a tragic way.
When Yeong was confronting the queen, I was silently screaming, "Don't challenge her!" It was a battle of outwitting each other, and I was so relieved when eunuch Han came to the rescue. But that hasn't change my opinion him, today's episode just confirms that the rebels have no intention on forming alliance with Yeong, they wanted to dethrone the monarch, and I'm totally okay with that development. I love how this show always exceed my expectations yet moving along on the path that I wish it'd taken. I, for one, don't want Yeong to form an alliance with the rebels, it would be so out of character and such a big betrayal for Yeong's father. I get that the king's weak but based on their interactions thus far, I truly believe that Yeong loves his father and would seek out his best interest as well as ruling with his people's best interest in mind. And an alliance with the rebel wouldn't be much different with an alliance with the Kim clan, essentially he'd have to rely on their power, I wanted Yeong to rule the nation with his chosen people by his side, just like what he said to Ra-on: “Until I make that kind of nation for you—can you wait? In the new Joseon that I make, you will be my first person.”
I don't think there ever was a moment where I was not moved by whatever Yeong said, everything that comes out of his mouth seems so wise and mature for his age and it makes me want to believe in him and his happy ending. I was particularly moved when he told Ra-on:“When you like someone, is it not natural to be greedy for more?” Heck yeah, be totally greedy, be so greedy that everyone literally have to wish for your happiness, be so so so greedy that you DO get your happy ending. I'm so happy that we have a hero worth rooting for. Because he's not a pushover, know exactly what he wants and actually go for it.
I think if the knowledge of the history didn't ruin it for us, we'd probably be heading forward with a much carefree attitude, but I want to believe that it's a happy ending for our couple. I can't bear to see them apart. I do agree that more than the romance itself, these two complete each other and spur each other into maturity, beyond that, it's their trust in each other that makes it particularly moving. And I like the fact that Yeong finds mother's influence in Ra-on, and she's the best support there is for him, even just the look of her gives him Ra-on (joy).
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 9:33 PM
Ok, apparently I wrote too long and need a second paragraph.
And how sweet is that they dread so much being apart! Sending each other home back and forth! Dawwww. If I was Ra-on, I wouldn't want the crown prince to go home at all. Rawr. It's a shame Yoo-jung is a minor, because there are a few scenes where I wish they'd make kissy faces. The "I've got my dots on you" scene set the right mood just for that! Gah.
On a side note, I think Beige's "Because I Miss You" song came out kinda late, because the feels are totally gone and I wasn't as excited for it as I was in the beginning. But I do understand why they chose to release it now. Previously I thought this was a theme song for YeongOn, but now that I think about it, it's actually a theme song for their longing for their mothers. It was played during the dance scene where Yeong was reminiscing his mother, and today it's used on Ra-on union with her mother. Gah, so many poignant moments. This is why I love this show so much, they balance out everything so perfectly.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:57 PM
I love that scene when Yeong put the dot on Ra-on. The laugh that PBG let out after putting the dot on KYJ was real and evil! lol I kept on replaying and I swear it seems like PBG wanted to laugh some more. And when he said flat out poker face "it comes from my heart" I died of laughter.
While I think KYJ is perfect as Ra-on, I admit that I find it such a shame as well that we will not be getting some more in the scenes between YeongOn because she's only 18 yrs old (Korean age).
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 10:06 AM
He sure was holding back his laughter. Just a smile on his face puts a smile on my face. I just couldn't get enough of them making moony eyes at each other.
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imbuk
September 27, 2016 at 2:01 AM
I loved that scene too, where crown prince said that this is not enough for him and he wants more. I think the biggest plus in their relationship is that they have no miscommunication. They both tell each other how they feel and what they want directly. It just goes to say how strong relationships can be if we have good communication.
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31 I think the prince knows
September 26, 2016 at 9:27 PM
that Ra On is the rebel leader's daughter. Right before reuniting her with her mum, Yeong asked Ra On to promise him that when faced with obstacle, she would not give up on him. I think that obstacle will be Ra On's mom and the Prince knows that their families' twisted fate will not make it easy for him and Ra On to be together. As teacher Dasan pointed out, if Ra On and her mum reunites, then it would make things more difficult for Yeong but Yeong's desire to make Ra On happy came before any selfish desire. He really loves her!
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32 Sir pawcelot
September 26, 2016 at 9:33 PM
Bla bla bla
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Sir pawcelot
September 26, 2016 at 9:38 PM
This comment was addressed for the troll, but luckily she/he has been removed. Yeay!!
Yeah finally they released the ost when ra on danced. I 've been waiting for this. ??
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mary
September 26, 2016 at 11:00 PM
Please ignore the trolls and focus on the current drama's recap instead. It just makes it harder to moderate trolls once a bunch of folks reply with their own essays (no matter how rational and well-thought out the replies are).
Trolls want to be noticed. The best way to fight them is to ignore. They look pathetic when they get 0 replies.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:12 PM
+1 billion
"Trolls want to be noticed. The best way to fight them is to ignore. They look pathetic when they get 0 replies."
EXACTLY!
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michykdrama
September 27, 2016 at 12:10 AM
Thanks @mary for your hard work! Really appreciate it.
*sends hugs and blows kisses*
We should light and let go a Moonlight Lantern for you with a wish on it since they seem to come true. (See comment #46)
So what will it be- meeting SJR in person? Calling him Oppa? A peck on the cheek? All of the above? XD
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33 dramaniac
September 26, 2016 at 9:36 PM
Dear Moonlovers,
I appreciate your opinion, I sincerely do. However on a thread that was purely positive and not putting down other dramas I see no need for that sort of negativity. Perhaps you could express your thoughts in a manner that would simply praise Moonlovers instead of putting down Moonlight.
And you aren't the only one, I've seen many people that have the same opinion as you do. But the problem is, an opinion is no longer simply an opinion when you begin to make other people feel as if their opinions aren't sufficient and that your opinion is the only one that matters. I'm not necessarily saying you're doing this, but it's something that I've come across and leads me to feel as if my joy of reading recaps has become spoiled. So please, for the sake of a kind and supportive atmosphere, be positive!
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dramaniac
September 26, 2016 at 9:38 PM
This was meant to be a reply to the first comment reply made by Moonlovers is better
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 9:56 PM
+1 I don't understand why they feel the need to defend Moon Lovers in Moonlight's thread. They can sing praises all they want in Moon Lovers' thread. I find myself getting riled up everytime I see off putting comments too.
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34 Moonlovers is so much better!
September 26, 2016 at 9:39 PM
I don't even read the recap for this drama. I just came here to express my opinion (and more or less my frustration at why it's getting high ratings). Though congratulations on the high ratings, it must be nice to love a drama that gets high ratings, I have yet to experience that. While you guys enjoys success Moonlovers is tanking because of fluffy dramas like this. Yeah it's a matter of taste and I'm probably being annoyed for no reason. Peace out...I will go back to Moonlovers recap.
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lovely
September 26, 2016 at 9:45 PM
you just need to admit you disaapointed with the rating results and the failures in various aspects and come back to support your drama, PEACE.
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kim
September 26, 2016 at 9:53 PM
???????? This is hilarious and so random.
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Bongsookie
September 26, 2016 at 9:57 PM
Depending on how you take it, I thought the first comment was hilarious. Seems like it got deleted but it was sarcastic and negative....borderline rude. So looks like replies to that first comment that got deleted moved down here instead?
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kim
September 26, 2016 at 10:05 PM
Oh. That explains it. I never read the first comment.
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Bongsookie
September 26, 2016 at 10:15 PM
Well I don't remember the whole comment (it was long) except for one sentence that says something along the lines of "this drama is a poopy drama about a poopy prince pretending to be an adult playing politics"? I thought that description itself was so random. I'm actually proud of us Moonlighters for being mature about it and not feeding more fuel to the fire. I personally love both Moon dramas so I don't get the hate but the comment did went a bit overboard. Hence that probably explains why Javabeans deleted it. No one likes their mood to be ruined right? :)
michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 10:56 PM
Yes, I do hope that everyone remains level headed and does not do anything silly like try and argue back or go over to the Moonlovers thread.
Let's all be nice yeah? That way the troll loses.
World peace and K dramas!
Besides I bet it's what PBG would have wanted. Im sure he would be sad if his fans were flaming another show because of his.
Quoted from someone I read online:
*Park Bo Gum, part time actor, full time Angel* <3
Bongsookie
September 26, 2016 at 11:10 PM
"Park Bo Gum, part time actor, full time Angel"
Aww I love that quote/description of him. It's so fitting because that's exactly what he truly is in real life. I don't think I've seen such a kind and angelic person before Bogummy. ❤
maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:12 PM
@Bongsookie I just love it when everyone around him gushes about him, just goes to show how kind and down-to-earth he is in person.
TDEK
September 26, 2016 at 9:57 PM
I don't quite understand your purpose of posting here. This place is for people who are watching this drama to post and share their opinions about this particular episode. I assume that you're not even watching this drama? So what are you doing here, my friend? & Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion of preferring the other drama over this one and wanting to promote that opinion somewhere BUT this is the wrong place to do so.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 9:58 PM
AND this comment instead proves exactly why Moonlight deserves the rating. If you get so defensive over Moonlight doing so much better, then it must have done something right.
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Dramakichi
September 26, 2016 at 9:59 PM
So if you don't read the recap, why comment and be so negative just because this drama is getting good ratings? I personally happen to like both dramas and am honestly kinda bummed, too, that Moonlovers isn't doing better in the ratings games. They're both different, even though they share the same genre of being sagueks, and they both have their pros and cons. We should all learn to enjoy the dramas that we like, and be happy for others' successes, not be so angry and annoyed. Everyone has their own opinions and likes and dislikes - we all can't like the same things. If we did, everything would be vanilla. Enjoy and appreciate them all! =))
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luna
September 26, 2016 at 10:07 PM
lmao...... haters gonna hate... trolls gonna troll...
Rise moonlight RISE
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Moon Gin
September 26, 2016 at 10:29 PM
I understand the disappointment of your fave drama not doing well in rating but a comment like this makes one sounds like a sore loser.
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PeepsLeAwesomePotato
September 26, 2016 at 10:31 PM
Moonlovers is tanking because of fluffy dramas like this
I'm actually amused that you think that this drama is the reason Moon Lovers is "tanking". Of all things... "We're tanking because the competition is too strong!" Lol...
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Sancheezy
September 27, 2016 at 12:36 AM
woow
enjoying success when someone is tanking???
tbh I didn't like PBG before I saw his acting, it's after IRY that I get how different and subtle he is as an actor I'll root, but I always liked KHN in everything, and I watch his variety show and he really deserves the praise if he is getting any,
so, as people who like to comment on Moonlight and seems like to criticise ML in another post, I actually really care about moonlight cause I loved BBJX and KHN, so I definitely not happy with the way ML is but they (the producer and crew ) need a wake-up call that a good drama needs to have balance or goodness in most if the things they presented than just grand view on actor or visual,
a product will get judge because of the product's quality for people not who endorse it or only the fans comment,
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35 Hangummy
September 26, 2016 at 9:42 PM
I think it's a matter of preference. A lot of people genuinely like the story (and Park Bogum, of course) and if you prefer the moon lovers then go ahead, no one pressure you to finish this. Also, just because you dont like it, it doesnt meant you can call the other poopy :)
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azzo
September 27, 2016 at 12:10 AM
Yes, I agree with you.
I totally understand a fan's frustration when they love a drama so much but it doesn't get high ratings, but what I don't get is why the hate on other dramas?! It just makes no sense to me! what is a poopy drama to you could be a jewel to someone else so it's not fair to ruin something beautiful just because you're angry. You can choose to pour your love in the other drama's comment section instead of coming here to ruin the mood! I've hated dramas before so I just simply chose not to watch them, or follow them, how hard could that be? you just don't watch!
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36 lydwinnec
September 26, 2016 at 9:49 PM
mmmm, everybody is entitled to express his/her own opinion just like you said, therefore don't you think it is a little ironic for you to question the korean taste?
in my opinion, just to say that people are drawn to mdbc just becausr of park bo gum is a little weird...., just to remind you, in term of stars powers moon lovers have far more with stars like lee jun ki, iu, kang ha neul, exo etc. and each of them have big fans...
let's say park bo gum DID DRAW people to watch mdbc, don't you think moon lovers should have at least the EQUAL if not MORE power to attract people with that many stars it had? please go check those articles in early 2016 when they announced MDBC and ML, many of the netizens said that MDBC is doomed because it have to face ML with so many beautiful faces in it plus story that has already proven credible for the audience (bbjx)....
no offense and this is just my opinion, you probably just a troll who try to start fans war but i hope you have smarter argument next time, someone has to say this at least one time..
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:32 PM
True, I thought Moonlight was doomed the moment it was placed in the same timeslot with Moon Lovers, well well, look how it has taken us by surprise.
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Suyeon
September 27, 2016 at 9:22 AM
Goes to show how the cookie crumbles, eh? Star power alone does not make a successful product if the initial impression is a bad one. First impressions are lasting and hard to shake. Both of these dramas are fusion-sageuk/young-adult sageuk based on pre-existing works with popular actors and crew so no one can say that the ratings game is rigged...
I have no opinion on Moon Lovers, so... no comment. I don't watch it and reading recaps in hopes of gleaning interest simply hasn't given me that 'spark' or urge to tune in for the long run.
That said... Moonlight doesn't revolutionize anything (if anything, it's like Coffee Prince: the sageuk), but they took a premise we already knew and made it feel refreshing to watch with gripping characters, well done pacing, well done acting, gorgeous cinematography, and not failing to tie loose ends...
Who would have thought something as simple as a little girl selling lanterns would make its way back to being involved in a treasonous series of cases? Who would have thought Eunuch Sageuk Plastic Surgeon with the poison acupuncture would wind up being helpful, knowing how poison reacts? The child gets her wish to meet the king (or at least Crown Prince). Raon's mother is found... and as a bonus, Teacher Dasan - who always seemed to be iffy as far as his role beyond Yeong's confidante - is actually Raon's grandfather! No wonder she's so good at giving advice. It's a good work that knows how to integrate all characters into the fold so that they don't feel completely like one-offs without significance... That's hard to do.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 10:43 AM
I do watch Moon Lovers, but I'm not gonna draw comparison here.
Moonlight doesn't premise on revolutionary anyway, it's all the too familiar setup and setting, maybe Sungkyunkwan Scandal much? But I do appreciate that we're given meaty stuff despite being promised rom-com. I just can't stop singing praises how much this show wow me. The way they connect dots between one story to another, layering their emotions on top of another, slipping in the themes unnoticed, and nailing the imagery and all, I'm just speechless everytime I watch a new episode. This show really have my heart.
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lydwinnec
September 26, 2016 at 10:40 PM
i'm replying the troll but it's comment got banished...
but i see it wrote new comment with the same troll boogies all over it
seeing the symptoms (unable to comprehend, self righteousness, desire to fight etc.) idiocy seems to be branded in it's DNA
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Hangummy
September 27, 2016 at 1:48 AM
Exactly! I love Baekhyun and Bogum and I remember being worried about this drama because Moon Lovers is showered with a lot of stars. But in the end, Park Bogum eyes win me. (Lol)
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37 Jenny
September 26, 2016 at 9:51 PM
One thing's for sure, I don't want to be Kim hyung in this story. Like?? WTH. I'll loose my mind brooding what to do. It's very paralyzing.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:35 PM
Whatever happened to Kim Hyung's character change after Chuseok? I don't think he changed at all. In fact, we've not seen much of it at all.
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kayak
September 26, 2016 at 11:05 PM
Perhaps what they meant is that he would be so overloaded with everyone's secrets and keeping track of which secrets he can't tell to this or that person that he would be rendered silent and unable to fly in the air as often.
In that scene with Yoon Sung, although it wasn't played for comedy I loved Byung Yeon's weariness when YS was all "I'm in love with a wom--" and BY was just like "Keep your secret in your pants, I'm busy drinking tea, I've had a hard day" and YS tells him anyway.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:15 PM
BAHAHAHA, this comment really made my day. Hilarious!
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mary
September 27, 2016 at 6:09 AM
He has a stressful job. Maybe he sews dolls to relax. Maybe that's how he got real good at it. Even before Ra-on, Crown Prince was causing mayhem left and right...
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thursdaynexxt
September 27, 2016 at 7:29 AM
Not to mention, poor Byung Yeon hasn't had his room to himself since Ra-on came! He's probably sleep-deprived to boot.
Who knows, maybe he doesn't always sleep up in the rafters, and wants to sleep in a proper bed for once?
maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 10:29 AM
I was going to comment "he can have my bed." But then I did a quick google and found that he 97-er! Eeek!
thursdaynexxt
September 27, 2016 at 7:26 AM
Yeah, Byung Yeon's timing on that one was spot on! :D
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM
Kim Hyung needs love. And tons of hugs. I am willing to give him bear hugs!
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neener
September 27, 2016 at 12:48 AM
I'm willing to give him ALL my love! It's such a shame we rarely get to see the other characters but we still have more episodes. Bring on the brooding sesh!
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38 GINA
September 26, 2016 at 9:59 PM
This is just the complications I crave in melodramas and tragedies and it's a feat that a supposed "romantic-comedy" sageuk is delivering it so well.
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39 halfmoon
September 26, 2016 at 10:01 PM
I wonder if Yeong knows about Ra-On's true identity yet (daughter of a rebel)...
Aside from the last scenes, I liked how:
-- Yeong was just being himself in front of Ra-On: all slumped over his desk like a guy after a long hard day at work,
-- how Yeong seems afraid of Ra-On after jokingly painting a dot on her front head: like if his girlfriend was going to nag at him...
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40 Bongsookie
September 26, 2016 at 10:01 PM
Have not got the chance to watch this episode yet and recap is already up!! Thanks JB :) I'm loving this drama a lot and can't help reading every piece of article about Moonlight. ❤
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41 Gail
September 26, 2016 at 10:04 PM
Okay, the previews, isn't the running in the rain looking for cover an homage of a film? Was it The Classic with Jo In-sung? I'm not sure but I've seen that one before. And that loosening the gat thing... Sungkyunkwan Scandal. I love such Easter eggs. They did the Temptation of Wolves to in the pilot.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:36 PM
Yeah, they pulled The Classic and Sungkyunkwan Scandal in the preview. Woooo, my radar is up when he untied her gat, what was he gonna do?????
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Bongsookie
September 26, 2016 at 10:45 PM
Would it be the same scene on his wedding night? ;) I won't say what happened in the novel version but this has me curious....if it is, I hope they film it right to avoid negative criticism...
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:18 PM
Yeah, I know. But no matter how right they film it, it wouldn't matter, it'd be too wrong given Yoo-jung's age. It might no go that route anyway, this show likes being a tease.
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42 Grace Yoon
September 26, 2016 at 10:04 PM
I will espouse Teacher Dasan's winning strategy of "killing your enemies not with HATE but with HONEY".
I will offer the "HONEY" of a "POWERFUL, COMPELLING STORY".
I don't even venture to comment on the other drama because I have not watched it and I cannot judge something I have not watched carefully.
If one has watched MDBC episode by episode and comes out of the experience saying that she doesn't like it, then well and good. "Different Strokes for Different Folks."
But if one has not watched and makes these judgments based on others who also have not watched and are just sour-graping, then the assertions have no logical basis.
After carefully watching each episode I saw that although it has included the cliche trope of a cross-dressing eunuch...the principal plot is about the profound friendship and love between a Prince who struggles between a hapless King-Father who couldn't avenge the mysterious death of his Queen---the Prince's mother--- and institute improvements in Joseon, and the sinister politics that tend to paralyze every effort of the King to reform the nation AND a young woman thrown into a painful circumstance of having to disguise herself as a boy, then a young man---hence, the crossing eunuch sub-plot---because it turns out that she was the daughter of the rebel leader and that affiliation forced the mother to disguised her as a boy to save her life.
The sub-plot as far as the Prince is concerned involves outwitting and subverting the evil machinations of Premier Kim and his minions and protecting and consummating his love for Raon. As far as Raon is concerned, it's rediscovering her identity as a woman and living as such with dignity, and strongly holding fast to her love for Lee Young.
With a plot like this, who in her right mind would say that MDBC is a "fluff" or "plotless"?
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:22 PM
Nice essay, you have here. :) The power is in the story-telling and delivery. And I can only hope that MDBC continues to do so until the end. I always have this feeling that things will take a wrong turn even at the very last moment of the final episode. I guess I've learned my lesson about not getting way too invested in a drama, but damn Moonlight is doing so well that it makes it hard to reign in my excitement and love for it.
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43 Paola
September 26, 2016 at 10:04 PM
Oh please. Moonlovers is sinking way below Moonlight it's not even on the same level. I take offense just by the fact that you put them on the same level together. Moonlight is at 20% ratings whilst Moonlovers is JUST at a mere what? 6%? If you're talking about internationally, please feel free to visit kdrama websites and check which of which is on the top. Even KBS TV clips in YouTube increased just by the mere photo of Bo Gum in the thumbnail. So please don't go there. PLOTWISE, you can check the recaps here in dramabeans how Moonlovers SUCKS
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Honey
September 26, 2016 at 10:08 PM
Nah, Moon Lovers reached 7.1% today but yeah, it's more comparable to Woman with a Suitcase which premiered with a 6.9%. Even Korean media are writing articles left and right how Moonlight is a wall at this point.
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michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 10:36 PM
@Paola
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but can't we all be a bit nicer about it? No need to sound angry or use harsh/rude words.
Just because Moonlovers isn't your cup of tea doesnt mean you need to come here and bash it.
Moonlight is amazing on it's own, regardless of how Moonlovers is. Moonlight doesnt need anyone to defend it by putting another drama down.
Moonlight fans Im sure have many more wonderful things to say about it rather than just bashing another drama. Besides Im sure that's what PBG would prefer, don't you think so?
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44 Anh
September 26, 2016 at 10:10 PM
Oh and another thing I love about moonlight is almost every one can handle those micro expression, like seriously, the conversion between Minister Kim and Minister Jo, Minister was displaying such awesome microexpression there, like he despite Kim (his mouth twitch, etc)
In moonlight, there's no such thing a one or two actors carrying the whole show with superb acting, everyone acts well and it creates a balanced harmony
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45 Lin
September 26, 2016 at 10:11 PM
:(((( Ugh. I don't expect a flood of praise in the recaps comments but seeing such tirades on how Moonlight doesn't deserve the ratings and Moon Lovers is so much better just spoils the fun. Let's reserve those in other threads please. :|
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46 MaeAsh
September 26, 2016 at 10:16 PM
If you think about it, all their wishes in the lantern festival came true.
1. The Princess wishes for her to be pretty and slimmer and it came true.
2. Master Jung wishes to see the Princess again. It came true because now he can see the Princess since he is in the Palace.
3. The little girl wishes came true today when she met Young and he told her to watch and see if he make make Joseon a bett nation.
4. Raon's wish to see her mother again. It happen this episode.
5. CP's wish for RO's wish to came true.
See all the wishes we were shown came true. Maybe Yoon Sung should have wish on the lantern too and maybe he can finally have a shoot at Ra On. LOL
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 10:38 PM
OMG, I thought I was the only one who noticed. Sadly, Yoon-sung was too late to the wishing party.
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lovely
September 26, 2016 at 10:50 PM
OMG i love your comments !!
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berries
September 26, 2016 at 11:13 PM
thanks for pointing that out!!
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:25 PM
ooh nice!!
See, this is why I love reading comments here in DB. I've got other beanies with laser-sharp eyes that remember such details! I'm not very good with this type of observation. hihi thank you!
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helios
September 26, 2016 at 11:36 PM
This is awesome! The writer really doesn't waste a scene. And poor YS is always too late lol.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 12:22 AM
But he was the first one to find out she's a girl, alas, she's not destined for him.
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neener
September 27, 2016 at 1:10 AM
When in doubt, read the comments. xD
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Sancheezy
September 27, 2016 at 4:39 AM
you are right, the king need to send his balloons too,
and yoon sung should send his too, just make it fly,
now I am curious if ha yeon also sends a balloon
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mehungie
October 1, 2016 at 7:20 PM
This is so lovely! Your comment needs to be read with heart eyes!
So, do we think Yeong will become king in the show then? Since the little girl's wish is to meet the King, not the Regent Prince... I sure hope so!
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47 dilemmacan'tdecideaname
September 26, 2016 at 10:18 PM
I can sit quietly and watch them all day and my heart will be fill with love.
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48 Moon Gin
September 26, 2016 at 10:33 PM
Despite shipping the OTP, my fave character in this drama is actually YS. Perhaps his situation has made me sympathizing with him. He loves RO, he wants to be best friends again with CP, and he wants to be close with KY ... but none would reciprocate his feeling. Too bad he was born in the wrong clan, because he's a good man born in a corrupt surrounding.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 2:53 AM
I don't know why, I just can't for the life of me feel for him. I mean it's a pity that he's vying for Ra-on affection, as well as Yeong and Kim Hyung, but to be honest, he didn't do anything to deserve Ra-on's affection (he did cover for her, but that's out of HIS affection for her, she never in any way gave him hope), as for Yeong and Kim Hyung, it's just his sad fate to be born into the Kim clan.
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crazyahjummafan
September 27, 2016 at 6:56 AM
Fate? what fate? Being born a Kim? Having the PM as his grandfather? He should take a leaf outta Yeong's book... and not allow circumstances to determine his destiny.
For instance, at the civil exam, he could have done something. He did tell Yeong that he was going to, but he didn't.
He's no the Yoon Sung I liked in the earlier eps.
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maryxiah
September 27, 2016 at 10:32 AM
He certainly didn't stop trying to be their friends, but he can't help it if Yeong keep him at arm's length. I was bothered by the exam thing as well, he knew they were corrupt and cheating, but he didn't do anything to stop them until Yeong came along and changed the question.
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mary
September 27, 2016 at 6:14 AM
I feel bad for him. Even if he tried multiple times to assert his loyalty for his friend in front of his corrupt family, Crown Prince and Kim Hyung still won't get close to him. He never dropped their friendship and still he's branded as part of Team Evil by his blood ties alone. :(
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49 michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 10:37 PM
Gifs are up!
See if you can guess the scenes based on the names I came up with ?
1. Marking you as Mine
2. Peekaboo Young Master Jung
3. Swoony moment Fail
4. Look into my eyes
5. *tap tap*
6. Save the Bromance
7. Boo! Ra-On-ah
Enjoy Beanies ❤️
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michykdrama
September 26, 2016 at 10:41 PM
Sorry in my PBG-staring-haze I forgot to add the link! XD
https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/gifs-to-get-us-through-the-angst-to-come/
*blow kisses!*
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Bongsookie
September 26, 2016 at 10:54 PM
@Michykdrama
Oooh thanks so much for making these! I swear your blog is such a treasure box ❤ I can't wait to get home after my class and watch this episode already!!
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Quillene Petite
September 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM
Yay! Thanks! Off to swoon with the gifs because 10pm KST is still so far away and I don't want to let go!
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Bongsookie
September 26, 2016 at 11:21 PM
Since caring is sharing, here's some more Bogummy goodness to look at too. It's a blog by another fellow beanie @kfangurl. Although I haven't seen her here for a while but I've always been following her blog.
Enjoy! ❤
https://thefangirlverdict.com/2016/09/16/newly-taken-with-park-bo-gum/
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Quillene Petite
September 26, 2016 at 11:18 PM
Yay! Thanks! Off to swoon with the gifs because 10pm KST is still so far away and I don't want to let go! I actually thought when he marked her as his, she would do the same to him with the ink he placed on her forehead.
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imbuk
September 26, 2016 at 11:25 PM
Thanks for the gifs, michykdrama! They are wonderful! :)
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:23 PM
LOL, I love how the music fizzle out when Master jung's legs gave out.
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:26 PM
Thank you! You are an angel!
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michykdrama
September 27, 2016 at 3:33 AM
I added a few more! With subtitles for added effect :D
Link is the same as above.
8. I want...
9. Can you wait until I create a nation... for you?
10. It comes from my heart
11. Grandpa!
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50 Mina
September 26, 2016 at 10:50 PM
You know what, I want a sad ending for this one. But I'm sure KBS won't do that.
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Bongsookie
September 26, 2016 at 10:57 PM
Well if they are staying true to the web novel then I'm highly positive there won't be a sad ending. I mean this drama was advertised as a fusion saeguk romcom. It's refreshing, fun and has a lot of heart....it would be out of place for it to have a sad ending. Even Bogummy said not to worry about the ending :)
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celine
September 26, 2016 at 11:28 PM
" Even Bogummy said not to worry about the ending "
OMG Did he really??!! When? I need assurance of at least a happy ending. I don't mind hardships and all problems they want to throw at OTP, but give them a happy ending.
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maryxiah
September 26, 2016 at 11:45 PM
OMG, did he really? (Two) But I have a feeling it's gonna be alright, we were promised fun, light-hearted sageuk.
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celine
September 27, 2016 at 12:01 AM
If they decide to go for sad ending, then they risk the hate of the entire Korean population. The viewers fell in love with YeongOn so much that they hate seeing them sad and apart. The writer should know better than to bring on the pitch forks locally and internationally. hihihi! I do agree that a sad ending is rather inconsistent to the overall feel of the show.
Bongsookie
September 27, 2016 at 3:54 AM
@Celine and maryxiah
I read it on an article/comment posted on Soompi (it had a link to the source). Now I went back and couldn't find it since the threads moved so fast and that comment is lost somewhere there. But yeah I remember reading it, unless my eyes (and memories) were wrong haha :)
berries
September 26, 2016 at 11:13 PM
in the promotions, kbs promoted this as a light-hearted drama. i doubt there would be a sad ending too
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helios
September 26, 2016 at 11:27 PM
In any other drama with similar narrative circumstances, I'd think a sad ending would be appropriate too. But the light tone MDBC has set would make a sad ending inconsistent with the fluffiness and light angst on which the show's popularity has been established.
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Sancheezy
September 27, 2016 at 4:42 AM
if the protagonist is 5 years older than what we have, I may thought they'll did it but with all the love and the tone, sad ending will be the opposite of the show premises
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