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Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 6

As if our resident damsel in distress couldn’t get into any more trouble, a sudden marriage is thrust upon her that she’s in no way equipped to deal with. (For that matter, neither are we.) It comes down to her troop of loyal princes to save her from an uncertain fate, though some need a little prodding to agree. And in the end, there’s only so much that they can do for her—the rest is up to Su.

Note: There are some different versions of these episodes floating around the vastness of the net, but for our purposes, we’ll be recapping off the version streamed live in Korea. So don’t be alarmed if you read of some scenes you haven’t seen, or don’t read of some that you have.

 
EPISODE 6 RECAP

Everyone’s dressed in white mourning robes for the funeral of Lady Hae, but it’s her husband, Wook, who lights the funeral pyre. Thirteenth prince Baek-ah keeps to himself as he cries over his own drawings of his late sister-in-law. Not just a sister-in-law to him, it seems.

Su sobs as the pyre goes up in flames, with So taking particular notice of her sadness. Wook remains in control of his expression.

Next thing we know, we find Su sitting with Baek-ah, who talks about having to wait to join Lady Hae in the afterlife. Su cries about how much she misses Lady Hae, and the two commiserate together. Are you guys friends now? When did this happen?

Su comes upon Wook sitting on the floor in his library later that night, but says nothing. He stares forward as he begins to talk aloud, though it seems like he’s talking more to himself than to her: “Why could I not say it? I knew she wanted to hear it, but I could not tell her that I loved her. I did not think that I did love her.”

But then, he says, he realized that his feelings were love, and that he did in fact love her. He was confused between what he thought were feelings of gratitude and general comfort with her, but in the end, he realized it was love.

Wook begins to cry piteously as he asks Su what he should do now. Like a lost child, he reaches forward to grab her skirt, desperately needing her comfort and assurance. “I should have told her,” he cries. “She waited so long.”

Wiping away at her own tears, Su kneels before him and takes him by the shoulders as she tells him that Lady Hae already knew. It’s not enough to soothe him, as he only sobs more deeply while blaming himself for being unable to tell his wife while it still mattered. He pushes Su’s arms away as he retreats back into himself, crying.

On her own, Su worries about what she’ll do now that Lady Hae is gone, but is interrupted by an insistent knock at her window. She opens it, and up pops a hand puppet dressed just like her. Joining it is another puppet of tenth prince Eun, as the real tenth prince alters his voice and uses the puppets to perform a cute little play of their first meeting (and his first beating).

Su can’t help but smile at the display, and Eun pokes his head up between the puppets to make sure his show is having its intended effect. Of course, he promptly proceeds to fall, having been standing on a servant’s shoulders to reach her window, which also serves to make Su laugh.

She admits that she was touched by the puppet show, adding, “You’re awesome!” (She uses the modern Korean term “Jjang!” with a thoroughly modern thumbs up). Eun’s glad to hear it, since he knew she needed some cheering up. But he hilariously wonders what the thumbs up means, and when she explains that the thumb rules over the five fingers, he thinks that’s a bit too much—the king should be the thumb.

He tries his index finger instead, thinking it a little more respectful. She laughs and goes along with it, telling him again that he’s jjang. He adopts the term as well, and mimics their conversation with the two puppets, adding some flourishes of his own, like Puppet Su gushing over how good looking Puppet Eun is. Hah.

Third prince Yo antagonizes So as has become his habit, but this time, So pushes back. He even helps his younger brother, Baek-ah, after Yo insults the artistic prince for his less than desirable lineage. Yo claims Goryeo is in danger, and So calls him out for acting like a big shot when their father still rules the throne. It’s all big talk, So claims, since Yo wouldn’t dare say any of these things in front of the king.

Su pays a visit to Lady Hae’s grave, mulling over her life here in Goryeo and how long she’ll have to live as Hae Su. These were the sorts of things she wanted to talk to Lady Hae about while she was alive, but she never got the chance. Even so, she thanks her cousin for all that she did.

Baek-ah and fourteenth prince Jung find her there and greet her warmly, so I guess we’ll have to take it on faith that Su and Baek-ah bonded over Lady Hae’s death. Jung can’t get over how fun it is to say “Fighting!” the way Su taught him. Hah.

The trio runs into Princess Yeonhwa in the palace, who claims to have good news for Su: she’ll be getting married. Cut to Wook finding out about the marriage, which Princess Yeonhwa and her elder supporters seem to be all about. It’ll be an advantageous match, and they’ll have to move on it quickly or risk losing it.

Something about it all seems fishy, and there’s only so much protesting Wook can do without looking suspicious. Baek-ah, however, is more than upset on Su’s behalf, and tries to get So to agree with him. So is unwilling to do so, since it’s Wook’s family affair—and after all, Su is of marrying age.

The other princes are thrown into a panic at the news, with Jung notifying everyone that the man Su is intended to marry is old, and has many sons. They realize that she’s not being married, she’s being sold—and ninth prince Won seems to be the only one who could care less. (Yo, who probably would care less, isn’t present.)

Wook overhears them, and asks for more information about the home Su is supposed to marry into. After hearing the details, he asks for his brothers’ help.

Slave girl Chae-ryung cries piteously as she packs her mistress’s things to prepare for her marriage, while Su looks to be in shock. Finally, she snaps herself out of it and tells Chae-ryung that she has to run. Chae-ryung completely supports her decision, and vows never to speak a word of her escape.

Luckily, Su is helped out by tenth prince Eun, who sneaks her out using the same window he used to perform the puppet show. Baek-ah also lends a helping hand, eventually getting Su to Wook, who disguises her in a hood as he leads her to a horse. “I can’t send you away like this,” Wook says, in answer to her questioning look.

Princess Yeonhwa spots Wook galloping off with Su sitting on the saddle in front of him, knowing full well who’s under the cloth. She orders a chase, and joins in it herself as her search party catches up to Wook, Jung, and his wrapped bundle.

But when it’s revealed that Eun is the one hidden under the silk, Princess Yeonhwa knows they’ve been fooled. The real Su is with So and Baek-ah, galloping as fast as they can on horseback. As they ride, Su looks back at So and thinks that she’s surprised even he pitched in to help her.

As if he can read her thoughts, So thinks, “It’s not because I like you. I simply don’t want to see you live a life where you’re controlled by others. That kind of life is not worth living.” Aw, you big softie.

All the princes converge on a common point in the forest, only to be stopped by Astronomer Choi and his party. He says he’s come to take Su into the palace, and it’s with dawning horror that Wook and the other princes come to realize exactly what he means.

“The king will marry Lady Su,” the astronomer says, much to the princes’ surprise. Wook confronts his uncles (well, the late Lady Hae’s uncles) over the match, but they’re both pleased as punch that they could become in-laws with the king. And if Su were to have the king’s child, even better for them.

Still, So refuses to let the men take Su, despite Princess Yeonhwa telling him that all of them could pay dearly if he doesn’t comply with the royal command. Su, hearing this, decides to go on her own so that no one will get hurt because of her.

Before she does, So stops her to ask if she won’t regret this. She tells him not to worry, and that she’ll try talking to the king. She can only offer a smile to Wook, but looks back up to So. Then, she’s gone. The princes are left to digest what just happened, which doesn’t seem to be an easy task.

Queen Sinmyeongsunseong confronts the king over choosing a new bride now, of all turbulent times. Worse yet, he’s in such a hurry that he’ll have the bedding before the actual ceremony even takes place. She wonders if this has something to do with him still suspecting her in the crown prince’s assassination attempt.

King Taejo basically tells her to mind her place, since he still doesn’t quite trust her and her greed. And since there are disputes on the borders, he claims, he needs the help of the Hae Clan—and the only way to get it is to marry a girl from that clan. Queen Sinmyeongsunseong huffs, and she puffs, but fails in blowing the palace down.

As she’s being carried to the palace in a palanquin, Su tries to think over her options without letting herself devolve into panic. In the palace, ROYAL CONCUBINE OH (Woo Hee-jin) is notified of the king’s soon-to-be wife.

Astronomer Choi gives Su a tour of Damiwon Palace, and completely ignores Su’s attempts to try and talk her way out of marrying a man she doesn’t know. Enter Concubine Oh, who comes to take a personal look at the new bride.

The astronomer couldn’t be happier to exit the scene, and warns Su under his breath to just follow her fate. That fate includes being checked over by Concubine Oh and her maids, since the concubine claims that a woman with scars on her body can’t marry the king.

Su crosses her arms over her chest protectively, unwilling to disrobe in front of strangers. The maids take her and strip her forcefully, with Concubine Oh claiming that they’re on a timeline—she’s to share the king’s bed tonight. What on earth is going on?

Queen Sinmyeongsunseong seems to be much more upset about the king’s potential new bride than Queen Sinjeong, but has no idea that the girl is actually Su. She finds this out when fourteenth prince Jung comes in to beg for her intervention.

Now Queen Sinmyeongsunseong understands why Wook’s mother was so calm about the wedding, because she stands to gain from it. But then Wook enters, presumably to plead with his mother for her intervention. When Queen Sinmyeongsunseong asks why he’s against Su’s marriage, Wook says it’s because he sees her as a younger sister. Also, it’s all very sudden.

Next up is Princess Yeonhwa, though we don’t get to hear what she has to say. In the meantime, Baek-ah tries to get So on their side, though he seems willing to let Su sort her own business out—she volunteered to go, after all. Baek-ah tries explaining that they’d all be dead if she hadn’t (for disobeying a royal command), but So just asks if he has feelings for her.

“I am not the one who has feelings for her,” Baek-ah retorts, though he doesn’t say who does. Instead, he tells his half-brother about how he and Su bonded after Lady Hae’s death, supplying us with flashbacks about their drunken antics following the funeral.

Su had asked him about his own feelings for Lady Hae, but Baek-ah explained that his status was too low for him to do anything about his feelings back then. Thoroughly wasted, Su had bemoaned the status system in Goryeo, and told Baek-ah to wait a thousand years—there (then), no one is above anyone else.

Though he’d tried to hush her, Su had gone on to tell Baek-ah that a person only lives once, and that death can come at any time. “You can just fall right out of the sky and end up living in a place like this,” she said, alluding to her own situation. So with that philosophy in mind, she’d advised Baek-ah to just live in the moment, and do whatever made him happy.

In the present, So gets after his little brother for listening to Su spout such nonsense, but Baek-ah firmly believes in what she espoused about status and rank. If it’s this bad for them as princes, how bad is it for ordinary citizens?

Baek-ah has no aspirations for the throne, he adds. “I only want to be free. That’s what you want too. And what about Hae Su?” So knows as well as he does that a girl without parents or siblings won’t survive in the palace, and that the king won’t pay any attention to her past the wedding night. She won’t survive living such a life, and they both know it.

Su looks like she’s had better days after her full body examination, and asks for some time alone—none of this has set in yet, since she didn’t even know what was going to happen when she woke up this morning.

The second Concubine Oh leaves, Su plans her escape, remembering the secret passageway from the bathhouse… but she’s foiled in that attempt by none other than Concubine Oh.

Now it’s So’s turn to confront Astronomer Choi over the marriage, likening him to a rabbit who always digs two holes to always guarantee at least one escape route. He knows Choi wouldn’t have just banked on one plan, and demands to know what the other part of his plan is.

King Taejo is notified that Su is waiting in the marriage chamber, which gives him momentary pause. It turns out that even he didn’t know he was marrying Su, only that he was marrying someone from the Hae household. Though he wishes it didn’t have to be Su, he’s pretty businesslike about it, and is ready to do what must be done.

Su waits in the wedding chamber dressed as a bride, but as King Taejo walks toward it, he’s stopped by the sight of his son, Prince Wook, kneeling in his path. Wook knows that what he’s doing is dangerous, but he asks the king why he’s bringing another household into the palace.

The king explains that he needs the help of the Hae Clan to settle border disputes with the Kitan (the people of Manchuria to the north), then asks Wook what stake he has in stopping the marriage. That’s when So steps in to provide another solution.

Their intervention doesn’t please the king in the least, but So goes on to say that he has a witness who saw one of Lady Hae’s uncles conspiring with the Kitan, adding that the Hae Clan should be punished, not brought in as in-laws. Their strength should be hindered in his view, and not helped.

But King Taejo says he will proceed with the marriage, since none of the options So presented are feasible. He has a responsibility to protect the border, and he sees no better way than to marry within the Hae Clan. Punishing them is not an option.

Su, having overheard the boys trying to stand up for her, runs out of the chamber. The king advances with the princes powerless to stop him, until he hears a crash and turns around. In her hand, Su holds a bloody vase fragment, which she’s used to cut her wrist.

In a shaking voice, Su tells the king that she cannot marry him with a scar on her body, which she’s now created. “Let me go now,” she pleads, and the king can’t help but admire her gumption. He orders Lady Hae’s uncle brought in, and Su proceeds to collapse.

Wook scoops her up in his arms and carries her outside where the other princes have been waiting. They all hurry around her, their faces painted with worry, as So watches on from the palace steps.

While unconscious, Su dreams of falling into the water, and of a death shroud covering King Taejo. She sees him drown, and also sees the fourth king of Goryeo, King Gwangjong, falling to the ground with a knife in his hand.

His face is obscured because she can’t remember which prince becomes King Gwangjong, but she does know that he kills his brothers in order to ascend the throne. “Which one of the princes is it?” she wonders.

She wakes with a start to see Concubine Oh at her bedside, who affirms that Su is alive and unmarried. She took over caring for her in lieu of a doctor, but Su is still being held in the palace. She also notifies Su of her impending punishment now that she’s conscious, but Su is ready to face it—she has no regrets.

Wook enters the room next, and Concubine Oh seems to understand why Su did what she did to escape the marriage. He comes to sit at Su’s bedside and takes her bandaged wrist in his hand as tears form in her eyes. “Everything will be all right now. It’s over,” he soothes her.

He informs her that the marriage has been cancelled because of her scar, and that the Hae Clan will stop pressuring her to marry. “Last night, I felt so pathetic,” he says in a low voice, almost in a whisper. He admits that he bent so low as to pray to his dead wife to return her to him, and that he would pay his wife back by showering Su with all the affection he could never give her.

“I asked her for her forgiveness, and for her to send you to me,” he confesses. “I begged her. If you had become the king’s woman, I would have never been able to forgive myself.” Crying, Su says that she was so afraid she’d never see him again, and couldn’t bear to part with him just like that.

Wook pulls her into his arms and tells her that she’s safe now—he lost her once, so he won’t let it happen again. She cries into his shoulder as he continues to soothe and comfort her.

When Astronomer Choi asks King Taejo what he plans to do with Su, the king nonchalantly says he’ll send her into slavery. Astronomer Choi is quick to do some damage control, claiming that Su could be of much more use as a court lady—Concubine Oh put in a request for her, since Su knows so much about herbs and cosmetics.

He frames it in such a way as to make Su seem pivotal to the success of the royal household, but Taejo knows his sons likely had something to do with it. He doesn’t know what her relationship to the princes is, but he seems game to go ahead with Astronomer Choi’s suggestion.

Wook and Su go for a walk in the garden, and share a silent moment as he looks down at her bandaged wrist, then pulls her sleeve down to cover it. In voiceover, we hear him say that he’s happy to take her to see his late wife, believing that she would’ve liked to see them together at her grave. Aw. So cute. So morbid.

Astronomer Choi meets them to deliver the news of Su’s new appointment as a court lady, and surprisingly, Su’s all for it. She knows court ladies get paid, and Choi’s more than happy to tell her about all the perks she’ll enjoy if she does her new job well.

Su is pretty positive about the job, and tells Wook not to worry about her. He gives a manly clearing of his throat before handing her a piece of paper, which she unfolds to reveal: \^ㅁ^/. (He uses the “ㅅ” and “ㅁ” Hanja characters to make up the face. It looks more like Hangul, but Hangul wasn’t invented yet.)

But the best part? Wook tries to imitate the symbol for her, and literally couldn’t be any more awkward about it. Love. At least he’s happy that he’ll be able to see her often in her new appointment.

All the princes (minus the crown prince and Yo) come running out to see Su, all hovering around her protectively as they each tell her how they worried about her and tried to save her. Su smiles up at all of them, until she remembers that one of them will go on to be King Gwangjong and kill all his brothers… and she wonders if it’s either Wook or So.

When it’s time for Su to go into the palace, fourteenth prince Jung gives her a little, “Fighting!” Wook tells her not to be afraid, and So just tells her nothing, even though he takes note of her bandaged wrist and small bundle of clothes.

Su walks alone into Damiwon Palace, and clutches her small bundle ever tighter when she sees the formidable Concubine Oh standing before her.

 
COMMENTS

This was a bit of a strange watch, and I wonder if that has something to do with the airing order having changed due to the first week’s triple header. I’m trying to figure out if this episode would’ve been better served had it come directly after Episode 5 as opposed to one week afterward, and while I think that might’ve mitigated some of the problem areas here, it wouldn’t necessarily have fixed them.

It’s hard to know whether there’s an issue in the editing, directing, or writing, but this episode more than ever had a sort of disjointedness about it, like we were seeing scenes chopped from other scenes that didn’t need to be in any specific order. A through-line emerged as the episode wore on that I was more than happy to cling to, but I felt more confused than Su ever was about what was happening to her and why. We slowly but surely came to understand the king’s reasoning even if he seemed to get short-sheeted in terms of information, but it all happened so fast that it was hard to actually get invested in Su’s struggle to not marry the king of Goryeo.

It was adorable that all the princes jumped to her defense though, even if Baek-ah’s storyline was resolved so quickly—and the presentation of it was a little lacking, what with them acting friendly directly after the funeral to us getting a flashback explaining their sudden friendship after the fact. I love Baek-ah being supportive and cute, but he lost a little bit of his personality in the process, since all the princes (minus Yo and the crown prince) all dote on Su now. Still, maybe complaining about having so many men at one’s disposal is neither here nor there, and we should just be happy that Su has such a ready and willing support system.

But since Baek-ah was on her side by whatever offscreen means necessary, it was great to have him be the one to convince So as to why he needed to intervene in the marriage. Even so, So’s reason for intervening was mostly left up to the imagination, and we got only snippets of moments from him this hour. I can’t help but want to see more So despite loving every moment with Wook and Su, primarily because I don’t want to be disappointed in the end by going down with the wrong ship. But man, this show really isn’t making it easy to not care about Wook and Su, who are just so sweet with each other—how are we honestly supposed to resist that?

It feels like we’re on the verge of a major shift in the story at least, with Su moving into the palace and out of Wook’s direct orbit. Maybe this means she’ll be in So’s orbit more, and we’ll get to know more about our most enigmatic of princes. But maybe, it just means we’ll get to know more about Su, who’s perhaps better off not knowing who becomes the future King Gwangjong. What you don’t know can’t hurt you, even if it kills everyone else.

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I deduced the reason for the close ups.

The reason for the extreme close ups is the same reason that closes ups were used for The Empress Of China Drama.

Lee Jun Ki's and Kim Ha Neul's chests were too hot for broadcast.

The Morales of china girls will collectively sink backwards at seeing that V.

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Omo, those cleavages, those costumes and the subsequent close ups to hide them. I laughed my ass off at what happened during Empress of China.

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I watched the Hong Kong version of it where they added some fabric to cover their chests via CGI, probably the only time TVB did the editing right coz that drama only lived for its great visuals.

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I actually like the fact that she knows all but nothing about the history. For her to know everything would be compliant with the source material but it would be too convenient especially since the era she's stuck in isn't that well documented in the first place. Plus there's the fact that documented history that people learn in schools isn't necessarily true, knowing it might not have helped her out at all.

The editing though, they had too much material and couldn't fit it in is what I take away from this. Audiences want LJK but giving him that airtime means that her relationship development with the other princes suffer (Baek-Ah for instance). Especially so because So and Su have no real reason to interact. In Wook's palace it may have made a bit of sense but in the King's palace with wayyy more people why would they really meet, especially since their relationship at the moment is the easygoing platonic type where you don't feel the urge to search for the other.

Also as someone else pointed out So's thoughts playing out on his face about Su scarring herself was just brilliant.His scar damne dhim and her scar saved her, the dichotomy of it is brilliant. It's the main reason why I love this drama, there's so many nuances to the characters even thought they're so subtle that they might need to be pointed out for you to notice

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We should use this drama in literature classes.. And write few thousand word essay lol

Too bad im long past those times... ;___;

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If my HS teachers had made me watch kdramas so I could write reports on them, it would have ruined kdramas for me in the same way they ruined classic literature.

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Ahhh wtf, now i'm pissed. Why is there more than one versions?! I guess I watched the edited version because there were scenes mentioned here that I haven't watched! Grrr. Wae? WAE?!

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I commented on ep 5's recap last night (bcs I just need something to do while waiting for the subs) and there I mentioned how I was looking forward to how Su and Baek Ah friendship will develop after Lady Hae's death. But it turned out that I was about to be disappointed :(
There's just so much potential basis for their friendship IMO. The fact that Lady Hae pointed how they are similar, etc. It's such a shame that they decided to jump over it and made it feel like BaekAh just suddenly care for Su.

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I am kinda confused...

I watched the raw episode that was aired yesterday and rewatched the subbed version today and the two episodes were different?

Like some scenes from the raw episode were longer and some scenes were completely cut off?

For instances the scene where the queen went to talk to the king or when 3rd Prince was trying to pick on 4th Prince etc?

Does anyone know how there's two different versions of the episode?

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It's not just the two episodes I'm worried about but the # of scenes they had to remove to fit into this 20eps drama. My ♥ is breaking for the actors/actresses.

SHR FIGHTING!!

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There are 2 version because the ones sold to China and onetvasia are the original one. The current one airing in Korea is the director's cut, if you're watching it on SBS streaming link, that's also a directors cut

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There are two versions - 1. the Korean tv version that airs on SBS, and 2. the version released to Chinese streaming and other foreign sites (including subbing sites)

That's because Scarlet Heart is pre-produced, and while SBS could make changes to what they air on Korean tv since people complained after the first week, they can't do the same for the episodes/footage that's already been approved by China. So we're getting the messy original with subs, and the re-edited Korean version raw on SBS/the SBS website.

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I don't mind were getting 2 versions. It's a good thing even. But they're not doing much justice to the way they're adding scenes. It's like they're cutting and pasting scenes without care.

NONETHELESS

SHR FIGHTING!

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First, I knew Wook loved Lady Hae!! I said as much in last episode's comments. It's too bad he realized it so late.

Second, I need more Wang So. All the characters are enjoyable but none more than So. This is his story and the narrative should show us more about him and relationships with people around him and his fight for the throne. If the drama doesn't start now, it's gonna feel rushed. I'm happy that there are showing minute changes in his attitude towards Su. And Sung Dong II's character is appearing in next episode; seems like he is gonna be on So's side. Maybe he will be the one to push So to claim the throne.

I really want this drama to do good. Why is something always going wrong? At first, it was the acting, OST, and the close-ups. When it became bearable to most viewers, the issue became bad editing and uncoordinated scenes. *Sigh* I wonder if someone is backstabbing this production. After watching King of Dramas, who knows who is working behind to bring people down? Maybe the PD of this team is on the bad side of some big shot. Lol, I'm getting carried away.

Like many others said, I want LJK to have a ratings hit with this one. The guy deserves it!

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I'm also having that issue with the editing. The close up I have no issue. It is there to show raw emotions and all and I myself appreciate the close-ups. It's the editing I am most concerned about. Who did it that it's so messy like someone trying to ruin a directors career. KGT is a reputable director but after this... I'm not sure what will happen to him

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I hope they stop editing what they already have. I read in some comments that they edited out important scenes that should have been in the show earlier, like So and Su talking about mothers, how So defended Baek Ah and their bond, etc. That's a shame coz without them some developments seem like they came out of the blue. But even with all of the problems, I'm really enjoying the show and it's characters :)

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And thank you Heads for the recap!!

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Actually, best part of this episode is the set up of the power dynamics.

[1] Yo is the bully, but interestingly, So is the one defending.

[2] It's obvious that So is the one who gets things done. Even when he doesn't agree (originally) with Su's flight, he is entrusted with her

[3] The fact that 13th prince and all the other younger princes to go him with their problems is indicative of So's inherent leadership presence

[4] The forest scene is great to show exactly how powerless the princes really are in comparison to their father (not your every day family dynamic). Royal decree = trump card

[5] I also love how Jung and Wook both go running to "Mommy" with their problems...yet again, an interesting commentary on Queens and power in comparison to their offspring (who are male!)

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In Goryeo time, the females had the power and backing of clans unlike in Joseon.

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ugh! the ratings is upsetting enough! i am an international fan who relies soley on subbed version, why? why? why? why must things happen this way?

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Let's just enjoy it without caring for the ratings for now. Nothing we can do but to show our support. If only the editing would be better in upcoming episodes my heart will be at ease. Whomever is ruining the direction of each episode is doing a good job.

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(Very confused about all the episode confusion, what is happening re: the longer and shorter versions of the same episodes. Why are they putting explanatory scenes in different orders etc. Seriously, did they hand the editing to an intern.)

But, on the other hand, what a gloriously subtle way to show how much the thought of a scar itself doesn't affect Su. That she would do that to herself to escape what she thinks is a terrible fate. This would be an essential element in her bonding with So. I think, till now, So has always considered the accidental scar as a part of his fate. It has, in most ways, shaped him into who he is, both physically and psychologically. He doesn't currently have aspirations to power, which would require him to be socially accepted (or to at least have backing), but he still hides his scar, he would- as the legend goes- kill anyone who sees it. He believes everything that has happened to him has largely been because of his scar ("everything is because of this face.") He's on the defensive before there's a word said. And his experiences have all shown that he's right. He IS treated differently because of the scar, it's not in his head. But because of the scar, there's always been a distance to him where it almost feels like- being part of the society, he too is conditioned to believe that his treatment is justified. Believes that no one would look at someone like him. He is grateful to be accepted despite his face whenever he is, thus his affection for Su, but it doesn't seem like he thinks he should be accepted despite his face, as a matter of right or humanity.

So I honestly think this forward-carrying motif of scars is extremely fascinating. Because Su ended up with a scar on her neck (which conveniently disappeared v. quickly, lol), and there was an entire arc of it being covered up, being treated, of her being told, with a hint of romance, how a woman's body shouldn't have a scar on it- and, ironically enough, it is a scar that saves her. Something that had always been representative of imperfection, of powerlessness, of a terrible social order for So and Goryeo, suddenly becomes a symbol of power, of freedom. Su used exactly that social order and its commands to escape it. She couldn't escape physically, so she rebelled the only other way she could have, from within the system. This is what I've been wanting to see since I heard of the premise, because in a place of hard, male power, the only way for women to really survive is the exercise of soft power. To subvert ideals precisely by catering to them. Its the standards of Goryeo turning on themselves. Even the king is subject to them.

I find these elements very intriguing. It's choppy, it's disjointed, oddly edited, but there's no denying, it's very engaging and very smart, and doesn't treat its audience like fools. I appreciate that more and more.

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I always LOVE reading your analysis, Zoe! Such astute observations! I totally missed the significance of the scar as a way of connecting the two leads, but you're totally right!!

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Aw, thank you! I think it was watching her scar herself (as morbid and wrong as that sounds) that was empowering in a way. And even more interesting that it happened in front of So. It had always been a symbol of shame and antagonism for him, so to have it entirely change symbolism is a great move. It kind of shows that to be an outsider in the palace is not entirely a bad thing because the palace is contained in its own ways.

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What it also does is, it lays bare how sham the standards actually are. Su did not scar herself on the sly, pretend it already existed or she had hurt herself accidentally. She did it in full view of the Kings and the princes. Every single person there knew why she did it, and YET the King will not marry her for that reason, embedded culture and unwritten laws trump even the immediacy of political strife.

Also, how truly amazing that the princes spent the entire episode trying to save Su, and in the end, it was she who saved them. Because they could or would have been punished right alongside for interfering in a royal matter in the manner that they were, which was of their own accord.

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Zoe, i love your writing .... wait ... haven't i already said it before, like multiple times!!!

The scar analysis was so spot on . Though i do wish she had cut somewhere more ..... visible. Sort of to drive home the point to WS. This was one spot where they should have multiple extreme close ups of WS watching her deliberately scar herself thinking of it as nothing but as escape route when he thinks thats the worst aspect of his life

But then the scene was hurried and moved on ... I seriously wanted them to linger in WS's head at that moment.

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Hehe, and I am always appreciative of your niceness :D

I was okay with where she cut herself, because I think it wasn't the scar itself that was important as much as the symbolism of it. Cutting herself more visibly might have been even more dramatic than it already was, heh, while I think it was more about making the point. And I love that So was there to witness it himself, because he, more than anyone else, understands what that can mean and imply in a society like Goryeo's. I think I was okay with them not lingering because it might have been too on-the-nose. For a show as dramatic and OTT as this one sometimes is, it really does subtlety well. And I have no doubt that we're going to see some lingering shots of him looking at her bandaged hand in the next episode. ^^

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I do think it's very sweet in a very morbid way that So and Su are now connected in one more way--their scars. They didn't get them in the same way, but Su has shown So that there is a way out of whatever seems to be set in stone. I really loved her agency in making sure that it did happen, and how she turned the rules and her clan's influence back on themselves. It was a really clever way to show that Su is more intelligent than everyone else around her gives her credit for, and also, like you said, the subversion of ideals that make up Goryeo.

So now I'm super excited, because we know that Su is now closer to So than anyone can be before. I remember seeing in the teaser trailer that she offers to take his mask off for him, and I was wondering why he would allow her to do that, given that it's his biggest taboo. Now we know--Su has shown him the bravery to subvert that taboo, that fear that he will never be loved or amount to anything. Su saving herself was a great way of opening up the path to our future central conflict.

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!+1000 I agree with everything you said! I feel like thought the So/Su moments haven't been particularly dramatic, the base being set for their understanding is excellent, whether it be with the First Emoji Ever Sent or their scars or their status as outsiders. Which is why I thought it was the symbolism of the scar that was so important for this episode, rather than the kind of scar.

I think, for So, the scar has always been a source of shame. That he feels there's nothing worse than being scarred, because it bought him nothing but misery-- being an outsider, being looked at as he is, having lost the love of his mother, of the people around him, because of it. But I think, in this episode, Su- in his presence- showed him that there are things worse than scars. Of course their experiences aren't the same, of course So's scar, being on his face, matters more, matters differently, but it's still an important realization.

And I think if So had initially thought that her being unafraid of him was either hard-headedness or foolishness or pity (or an interest in taming the wild animal), he will now realize that she really does see him beyond the scar, that the scar is truly immaterial to her, which is something that he may never have understood otherwise because his experiences have conditioned him in a certain way.

Which is why I also love how Su's influence is being felt in these subtle ways-- with people beginning to question the things they'd taken as accepted, that they'd been conditioned to believe, whether it be with regard to scars or rank or status. I like that this narrative is not about Su learning to live or adjust in a different time, but in tapping into those human emotions that are universal, that have nothing to do with time or place, that recognize that nothing makes oppression then any more legitimate than now.

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Ok so first I just want to say this without coming off as creepy or anything, but I do love the way you word your comments and the thoughtfulness you imbue your analysis with. Always such a joy to see what you think of the episode!

So, so, so on point with So now possibly realising that Su is truly unafraid of him, and that she doesn't judge him by the Goryeo rulebook in any way or form. It's what I feel makes the basis of the So/Su ship so solid, in that their relationship is formed upon mutual understanding that is slowly developing into something more. I'm not saying that Wook/Su is all fluff, but I feel that their attraction to each other is more superficial than So/Su, in a sense that they've never truly bonded over anything. To me at least. Maybe Lady Hae, but is bonding over your late wife/cousin a good thing...?

Ahhh so on point again about Su. In time travel fiction it's easy to think of the protagonist's effect on history as these big ripples, but as you've said, Su's influence is subtle. She's changing the minds of people, not literally the landscape or anything, and that in itself is more formidable than anything else. I like the thought of universal human emotions, that people in the past are really no different from us now, and Su is just reminding them of that.

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Haha, nothing creepy about it in the least, because we have so many of the same thoughts here, that I'm really enjoying reading yours as well!

I absolutely love Wook/Su and I always have a soft spot for angst and doomed love ships (and they have great sexual tension), but I really appreciate the Su-So build up. That is not a relationship I'd particularly thought I'd support through the previews or the premise, but then it turned around and really captured me with how deep the base was being set. This is why I usually fall for second leads in k-dramas, because they often seem to build a deeper understanding with the female lead since they bond over things other than just romantic attraction. And it's brilliant that this drama is following that trajectory with its lead couple.

And yes! I think there's so many times that this show has delved into the idea that, regardless of time and place, human emotion is the unchanging constant. Grief and regret in Goryeo are no different from today, and attraction and love just as potent. (Even pick-up lines survive thousands of years!) Which is what I felt in the episode where Su told Wook to sleep with the candles lit because he may have PTSD after he killed the assassin, which made me realize that just because people didn't have a medical name for it, doesn't mean that the thing itself cannot exist.

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Hahaha yeah I'm really enjoying sharing my views with people who hold the same sort of opinions! It's nice to talk about something we're all so invested in :)

Wook/So is so difficult to dislike because they have so much chemistry, and I have to agree that the doomed love aspect of it makes it even more appealing, in a sense. Because they won't be able to make it through, their relationship is more passionate in a sense? Like you've said it's really more of a typical first lead couple trajectory, and I like how the drama is subverting more than just Goryeo ideals--dramaland ideals too! It's going to be so interesting though, because Su isn't going to leave Wook's social circles even after they break up, and I want to see how the show is going to deal with the fallout.

Good call on the PTSD! I think Su (and us) are discovering that many things don't change about being human--we hurt the same and we feel happy the same. I reaaaaally hope the show continues with this and uses it to convincingly justify Su's decisions as the plot progresses, because she's human like the people around her. Humans make mistakes, and humans often also overestimate themselves--I think that was the core reason why Ruoxi messed up so badly in the original, and I hope to see an equally convincing take on Su here.

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Can't wait to see if they develop it more! With this show's editing, I'm never sure if they'll carry anything forward, lol.

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Did anyone notice that in some of the scenes in this episode will have future decision down in history? Hmmmm...
1. King Taejo thought of putting Su into slavery = in history Wang So enacted laws for liberation of slavery
2.Su had bemoaned the status system in Goryeo = Wang So initiated a system of civil service exams to select candidates regardless of social status or origins.
Now this show is making me go read Goryeo's history... very interesting......

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That's some pretty good observation.

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Yes! When 13th was talking to 4th that is what i was thinking - they are building the foundation for his future reforms and belief system. They really should have expanded on it.

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yes yes, and also yes to the replies below..

i really like these subtle 'plots', i like how this drama makes us think.. altho idk if thats intentional lol

i feel that character growth is and will be very evident. so, for example, we see how he was all violence at first, then starting to soften his emotions, then starting to be more political in his approach to solve haesoo's problem. and they dont just have him go through with his solution, bcs its flawed. it shows that he's still new in this field. yes, he has the right approach, but his lack of experience makes his solution not the most effective one yet. i'm really looking forward to his development in the future....

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The female lead doesn't have exact knowledge of Goryeo era as there is none to know about the era. There is very limited we know about Goryeo even with Google around. And little about the first four Kings of Goryeo on history books.

So what knowledge is HS required in this story?

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Also, I absolutely loved how good this episode was in showing everyone the limits of their power-- even the princes and the king. Everyone is oppressed by the system, even those at the top, but, as Baek Ah aptly said Su made him realize, if even they're helpless, how are the people living?

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I liked how the conversation between Baek Ah and Hae Soo gave him an outlet for talking about living freely. Another thing I hadn't thought about that this drama presents is the constant vying for, not position, but survival - individually and as a family (clan). While warring it out seems natural to some of the princes, Baek Ah represents the internal conflict that exists within this set up. He is not just a dreamy artist, but a creative thinker.

Talk about second lead syndrome, what about 25 princes syndrome?

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Haha, the 25 princes syndrome is a real thing with me. I know people have their preferences and would rather not have some of the princes take up screentime, but I honestly love all of them. I find them very varied and very enjoyable ^^

I really like your point about Baek Ah! I think this episode laid bare to something he's probably thought of but never openly questioned as re: the fact that he could not fight for Lady Hae because of his status. And So as an outsider is best placed to understand that line of thought. What I love is that this drama has already positioned the throne not only as a system of power, but of change. If you want change, you need to change the system, and the throne is a means of doing that. It really sets the stage for So's historical reign.

Of course the interesting thing is that, despite Baek Ah's regrets, for Lady Hae, her marriage was a marriage for love. It wasn't that her lover wasn't able to win her hand and she was married to the politically convenient candidate, but that she actively chose to marry Wook. I think the agency that a lot of women in this drama have already shown in the sphere of limited action that they're allowed is amazing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMizRwpMH8

OMG they just released the second preview today consists of So-Soo in the garden, just the two of them having some moments together.. Gah!! I don't realize how much I miss seeing them talking so casually until I see this preview. A drug for my So-Soo sickness >,< looks like the ship is about to sail \^o^/

Please someone doing the engsub of the preview, they're super cute together

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Gah thaaaanks, SBS is doing something right. About the subs, I think if we watch that scene on a loop we'd totally understand what they say. I'm on it.

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Gah, this is what I watch for and what kdramas do best! ♥

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I think this looks like the version I've watched on dramacool. At least I hope so, I don't have time to look for the other versions. Sigh.
This was the first real threat to Hae Su, it's a shame it all felt disjointed. The premonition dream is a great detail though that sets the path to the real conflict. This episode was tugging at heartstrings and sometimes that's enough to keep it interesting.

Anyhow what really still confuses me is the way Su hurt herself to get out of the marriage. When concubine Oh mentioned scars as an obstacle I was like girl, get on it. But on the other hand I was glad she did it as a last resort. BUT why did she choose to cut her wrist? That's just suicide, she was more likely to die than just get a scar. There other places in her body that are not connected by delicate veins. Did she really want to die, or was she just desperate and acted in the spur of the moment?

Thanks for the recap, Heads!

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I felt she acted in spur of the moment. It was probably something she didn't even register till that moment (re: the King's wife can't be scarred) as a possible escape route till driven to the edge. I loved how she blatantly did it in front of them, no hiding, no pretence, just openly stating that if Taejo wanted a reason to not marry her, she'd give him one. It's interesting that he chose that (the cultural reason) over the more political ones that his sons suggested.

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Its bcs the political reasons so gave, would lead to a butterfly effect among other powerful clans. Not to mention what so said was practically still an accusation, without true evidence yet.

Haesoo's scar however, is an easy answer. Nobody could be blamed for her scar. Not much damage would happen from cancelling the marriage due to this reason since its something both the clan and the king couldnt help..

I guess thats why the king stayed quiet for a while before agreeing to letting her go, bcs he needed slight time to weigh the consequences of soo's action maybe?:p

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@fab - this is going to sound macabre, but death due to bleeding from slit wrists is not instant, and actually takes a while depending on what got cut - people are more likely to damage a nerve or tendon (and impair hand function forever) than cause their death.

But what's absolutely guaranteed is a major scar, and
Su cut herself in front of people who would notice and get her to immediate medical attention and not let her die. In a very bloody way, that was actually smart.

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I'm just gonna throw this out there but Baek Ah's character is literally the biggest waste of potential. I'd rather they show me scenes developing his friendship with Hae Su, their desperation for freedom and all that. I'd much rather if their drinking scenes replaced Baekhyun's little puppet show, as much as it was cute and I did enjoy it, that scene served little to no purpose to the plot and was really only there to satisfy like 10th prince's screen time quota. I feel like that would have been a nice little buffer between Lady Hae's death and Hae Su's sudden arrange marriage, but instead we're only given it as an afterthought, after Hae Su is thrown into trouble and they needed to explain why Baek Ah is suddenly also fond of her. Ugh so much disappointments.

Also Wang So + Baek Ah was such a much needed friendship/comaradie that it should've bee not developed earlier on too, instead of suddenly popping up this episode, and expecting us to buy it.

Which makes me even more upset to think they're going to be developing a love line for him soon-ish, as the directors/editors seem to find him so dispossable that they'd gladly switch him out in favour of other characters.

You're a 20 episode drama, we already have scarce screen time for a cast wayyyy too but for us to handle, but yeah sure lets throw in another 2 love lines. Wish they had been smart about it and decided to make it a 30 episode drama at least, I mean they clearly have enough material and resources.

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You're absolutely right, Su, Soo, and Baek-ah needed to be fleshed out more, a lot more. It's a shame they overlooked this trio, they have so much to bond over! I'd expected Jung to be more close to Su seeing how he's not completely on his mother's side about her treatment of Su. But Baek-ah is obviously intelligent and a bit more complex than the younger princes. Well read with a heart in the right place.

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Su, So, and Baek Ah's Chinese counterparts were like the OT3 in the original. I loved them to bits. Sad that they chose to focus on other characters instead.

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I agree! Initially I was hoping they had enough material for 21 episodes, but now I'm afraid that we'd have needed a minimum of 30 to tell the full story. :s

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The Wang EXO puppet show was what it was. For a couple of episodes I mixed up Baekhyun and Baek Ah, thinking Wang EXO's name was Baek Ah, haha! I am actually very fond of Baek Ah. He gets it from afar and does what he can in his position as whatever number prince he is in the line up. He is sensitive and observant and, hopefully, will be able to stay true to his convictions.

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About Baek ah-So relationship, is anyone aware that in episode 1, when all princes gathered and talked about So and suddenly So appeared? All the younger brothers immediately looked down, nobody greeted their hyungnim except Baek ah. Even if he was scared but he showed respect to So already since the very beginning. I like these little scenes that foreshadowing the upcoming events. And in SBS version, So actually defended Baek ah from Yo's insults so I think they have good reason to begin with.

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I love this drama regardless of all the flaws, criticisms and bad ratings. ☺

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Me too. :D

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me four!

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\^o^/

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Oh LJK, LJK, wherefore art thou, LJK?!?!

I thought you were the main lead here, but alas, you only showed up about 5min in the whole episode (T_T)

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Don't you worry! Episode 8 makes up for that. ??

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I mean episode 7 \^o^/

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Really!?! Thaaaaanks!!! \^o^/

*runs off to watch ep 7*

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While rewatching the episode, I was under the impression that freedom was the catchcry here. It was like reading a libertarian tract or a call to freedom. "Live free or die". Freedom to love and be with the one you love, freedom to make choices within the limits offered to you and freedom to help someone attain their freedom.
In Goryeo, freedom is a precious commodity that not even the King enjoys. He marries for political reasons to maintain the peace, for law and order. In a real enough way, he's just as much a prisoner of his chosen negotiation tactic as Soo is of this political union. It's a bloodless stratagem that takes a toll on his family that causes serious dysfunction within the family.

That conversation between Baek Ah and So was very telling. Both princes are well aware that they have titles but so little actual power to make their own choices. One prince was sent to be a hostage. The other came from a lesser family line. But the amazing thing is that they are willing to put themselves on the line so that Soo can have that choice. By this very act, they showed themselves to be men of quality.

In the end, Soo took fate into her own hands and carved out a different path to the one that was offered to her. She paid the price for freedom but at least it was her choice. I don't know if Wang So was in love with her before this but after what she did, there must be rumblings in his heart surely.

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+10000 that's amazing observation!

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This is why I commented before that this follows the spirit of the C-BBJX.

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+1000 That is exactly how I read the episode. I think the most telling moment was when the audience realized that even Taejo didn't know whom he was to marry, and when he said quietly to himself "why does it have to be her." He was no more powerful than his sons to stop the marriage that he himself was hesitant about.

And I absolutely adored the moment when Concubine Oh told Soo she'd be punished for her actions and Soo said that since she was the one who made her choice, she could live with the consequences, but she could not live without the freedom to choose.

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OMG, I love your POV. Regarding this... I don’t know if Wang So was in love with her before this but after what she did, there must be rumblings in his heart surely... He gets completely smitten in episode 7 :D

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I agree that Wang So looked at Hae Soo in a different way when she dramatically took her fate into her own hands before the king, no less!

One thing I also wondered about in this episode is if Hae Soo has an inkling that she can change history...

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dear SBS,
I will try to be patient with you, if this is not for LJK's sake, I certainly will crush, burn and throw you to heellll!!!

I don't care with this mess editing as long as it just happen during Wook-Soo's couple lifetime. But IF! I say IF later You dare to make this massacre editing with my ship! my dear sailing ship So-Soo couple. I'll go to korea, turn over SBS up and down until I find who's behind this terrible editing and smack their head!
I am just so frustrated cause everyone has work so hard.. and imagine that so many LJK's cut (and everybody's cut) being wasted.. it's just sooo haarrdd

my oppa's screen time just not even reaches 5 minutes and yet you still dare to play and drives me over the edge

note: I don't hate Wook-Soo's couple, I just prefer So-Soo couple

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Very happy about this eng-subbed preview for episode 7! SO EXCITED! Can't wait for more So/Su!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtoAiiPeeNU

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other than the editing, i seriously have nothing bad to say about this drama. to point that i have told myself to stop reading peoples' comments cause it just makes me mad (but sometimes i still do). it all comes down to preference and i figured i just watch as long as it makes me happy.

despite all the negative feedbacks, I am in love with this drama! i am a bit late on checking db today and when i look at the 530+ comments it has on db, i thought to myself 'how can it already have more than 500 comments? i thought nobody watches this?!'

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Thanks for the recap!

I'm glad Su found a way to avoid marrying the king (even if it involved self-harm). If I was in her shoes (being a woman from the 21st century), having to "share a room" with a perfect stranger would be no better than rape.

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This drama is not constant with it's execution, but the storyline is interesting, still it couldn't make me invested in it completely. Right now I watch it because there is not much to watch besides this one and I love LJK. I hope the editing team will make improvements.

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"Su is pretty positive about the job, and tells Wook not to worry about her. He gives a manly clearing of his throat before handing her a piece of paper, which she unfolds to reveal: \^ㅁ^/. (He uses the “ㅅ” and “ㅁ” Hanja characters to make up the face. It looks more like Hangul, but Hangul wasn’t invented yet.)

But the best part? Wook tries to imitate the symbol for her, and literally couldn’t be any more awkward about it. Love. At least he’s happy that he’ll be able to see her often in her new appointment."
*Swoons* Gah, why so adorable?

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I want more Wang So. I don't think he has even 15 min screentime.

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Tell me how can I change ship when all they are showing are Wook/Su moments? Those two need to have a show of their own because they look really good together and their chemistry is off the charts. I like 4th prince too (because who doesn't like an internally wounded hero? and that hero played by LJK?) but..but..I still really don't see the sparks. Although, I do believe that this show will not pull a CITT on us. Heh.

The best part of the episode for me was 8th prince realization that he DID love Lady Hae and regrets not saying it to her. That hits right in the feels. TT___TT

Questions (these may have been answered in the previous comments so no need to respond as I'll scroll through all them later on):

1. Why did Su cut her wrist to have a scar? Couldn't it be part of the arm where it wouldn't be fatal? Does this mean she can't marry the future king either?

2. Is Royal Concubine Oh a mother of one of our princes? Is she some sort of a doctor or pharmacist?

3. Why is 9th prince running around with all the princes related to Su? Like when she passed out form cutting her wrists, he was there acting all worried too.

4. Still no news on what song that's played on background when Lady Hae died?

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re: 1 - I think Su cut her wrist because she knew there'd be likely visible and permanent scarring there, which would get her out of marrying Taejo for good. If she'd cut her arm, there was a chance it would heal over - I assume she'd know that.

re: 2, 3, 4 - no idea! But I'm curious about 4 too.

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2. Not sure but I don't think Royal Concubine Oh is the mother of one of the princes. If she was, she would have a higher status and wouldn't "work" at the Damiwon.

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2. They keep calling her Oh sang goong actually, which means court lady. Kind of like the head of the maids~ not a queen though...

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The Crown Prince's mother, who Taejo married before he was king, was from the Oh clan.

Lady Oh is said in description to be someone Taejo loved before he became King. Her request for Soo is immediately granted in spite of requests from Queens. She's in charge of settling and inspecting wives for flaws - something the first queen might not personally do but would control. She's got a whole pharmacy, research centre at her disposal.

Taejo was from the merchant class before he became king. He had a wife and lover from the Oh clan before he became king - either one and the same or related. The Crown Prince was born before he became king. So it's possible Lady Oh's status was not high enough for her to become his Queen? But high enough to be CP's mom? Why doesn't Queen Sin know about her?

I have a feeling we've just run into the major web weaver of the founding of Goryeo.

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I think people should stop criticize how bad the editing already . There are many good point in the ep yet not many talking about at all .This is just ep 6 people , i know it will get better as time processes.
Did anyone watch ep 7 preview ? [SPOILERS REDACTED]
When are ep 7 coming out ? anybody know ?

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This episode was so choppy - and kind of boring - that I mostly played a game on my tablet with it on in the background. Right now the plot on Monster makes more sense and that's a terrible thing to be true. I'm not sure I'm sticking with this one.

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Even if there aren't may LJG scenes now, after seeing LJG in many sageuk attires in different dramas, I think I am prepared to wait and be patient if there is a chance I could see him in kingly garb for a bit, later on in this series :) maybe that is worth the wait!

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I was disappointed that Wang So had very less screentime but did the 3rd prince even appear in this episode?

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The problem with the flow may also from the need to show part of every princes as fan service to all prince fans. ( not that I complaint since eye candy is one of reasons I'm watching this)

Don't wanna compare Chinese version and korean one, but I think the flow in Chinese one is a bit more smoother because they only focus on prince 4, 8 and a bit 13. Others Princes really serve as plot side trigger. Korean version need to show enough of other princes to satisfy the fan and marketing the drama. Their intention might be to have fan pick their favorite prince, or something like that.

But I also think that the production could do the job nicer regarding to managing all flow, plot, prince's time. And agreed that editing job could turn off many people.

It is pity actually because everyone can tell that this drama is suppose to be major. The investment, the casts, costume, set and marketing are big enough for everyone to have anticipation. The original plot is also entertaining and has so much potential to be addicted. ( I mean if people can go crazy to Chinese ver. that guys is half bald and have braided hairs, really sorry Qing dynasty, the eye candy is not as important as the story)

All in all, satisfy but a bit disappointing. It is enjoyable and I want to rise my eye sugar levels.

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Nearly six hundred comments for a first-episode-of-the-week! I will never stop being surprised by how engaged the DB community is re: this drama. I can almost overlook the ratings for this, hehe.

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I came into this drama barely knowing anyone, I know some names, some faces but I was only watching cause of ma boi Lee Jun Ki. After like 3 weeks, I find myself easily able to name all 8 princes and distinguish them individually. I can even guess who said what in the previews. Is this how a kpop fan feels? ?

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Thanks for the recap! Your patience with the show is admirable as far as being the translator of missing things.

I feel like we are all experiencing the birth pains of either
new era of pre-produced dramas in SK or maybe a failed experiment.

When the creative teams have limited time to decide "should it stay or should it go?" they seem comfortable enough to be able to commit to the version they want aired, and good or bad, they leave it alone.
All of this extra time seems to be filled with second, third and fourth guessing, and there isn't a confident decider at the top who can command them to leave it the hell alone.

Who has the vision for where this shebang is headed? Who will everyone listen to? What would ANTHONY do?

I hope for our sake, as well as all the talented folks who worked so hard on these episodes they figure it out soon. What a colossal waste of LJK if they can't!

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Hi hi,
Just want to mention that Woon actually used the characters 人 (person) and 口 (mouth) both Chinese character to write the emoticons

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Okay, the writer better not end up killing Jung . I think this is the first drama (apart from page turner) where he hasn't been abused or nearly killed ( let's pretend that a guy didn't want to chop off his arm for now, it didn't happen anyway)
I don't want anyone of them to die!!!1 except YO and the ninth prince

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I love this drama. Thanks for the recap \^0^/

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Thanks, HeadsNo2, for your recap that explained the reason for missing subtitles sprinkled throughout this episode... Thanks for filling in the blanks. ;-)

It's confusing having the various versions floating around. But I'm still enjoying watching, and that's the main thing.

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brb gonna take a lighter and burn down the whole sbs for the bad editing.

JEEZZ. this show is like a rollercoaster ride. i get so hyped up over ep 4-5 then they do this to me in ep 6......

i am pretty convinced that they shot the drama as a 24ep but ending up squeezing them into a 20ep shoot. such nasty editing.. i hope they release a 24ep somehow... somewhat. *thinking of the wasted tapes, esp.. LJK*

LJK is prolly the only redeeming part even tho he only appeared so briefly in this ep....

please sbs pls please stop your nonsense editing and give me the deal i signed up for.

although i love KHN but the wait for more LJK parts is just killing me ;_; just gimme more of my LJK wheepppp.

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Don't you guys think there's something going on between Jimong and Concubine Oh? And Concubine Oh had some mysterious expression moments (she's very pretty too, her charisma... I was like O_O), I wonder if she would have important role in the future. Is there such character in the Chinese version?

Appearance wise, KHN is more like my type. LJK is super pretty too, it's just my preference.
But whoa, LJK... I can't quite put it into words what makes me craving for his scene. I just don't understand. I mean, if all 6 princes line up and I had to choose one, it wouldn't be him. But why I like to have him on my screen so much? I don't understand =' '=

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I thought Concubine Oh was extremely charismatic as well, she immediately commanded the screen as soon as she was on it :O

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I tried googling about the actress Woo Hee Jin. She's not as popular as I thought she'd be tho.
She had LJK's level of on-screen charisma (at least in this drama, haven't watch any other her or LJK's drama)

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Woo Hee-jin has been around forever.

She was the girl in the harem for the drama Feelings/Neukkim that javabeans talks about here:
http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/05/feeling-neukkim-1994/
In 2007, jb commented that she aged well. Now all those years later, she still looks fabulous.

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No... Lady Oh is The King's woman lol

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Sorry, I hadn't read comments about Lady Oh's being King's women before I wrote the comment.

What about what she said to Jimong to not lower himself in front of her anymore? Any thought?

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HOW OLD IS HAE SOO? She can't be 29. I thought she was 16 or 19

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Where did you hear she was 29?? I thought Hae Soo was 16!

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Taejo absentmindedly mentioned it when his attendant came to inform him that it was time for the wedding night. Like, he totally had no idea who he was going to be marrying (bedding, more like) was he?? Which makes it even more sad, in that he doesn't care as long as it's a Hae girl that'll do the trick of placating them.

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29 is the number of wives the king has!

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Yeah I wonder if it was a mix up in the subs - I think the Queen says 29 too - or if a replacement happened. Ha Jin was 25 before inhabiting 16 year old Hae Soo's body, a prior incarnation of her own. That's right in the summary for the drama.

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The king has 29 consorts.

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Now that I know about the two variants, I'm going to watch all the raws first in the other variant before watching the eng sub.

My brain is mostly ok with this, but wants to learn Korean faster as a result. =)

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I absolutely loved the expression of thinly veiled disgust when that one dude celebrated that Hae Soo could get pregnant with the next prince.

I'm so on board with SooxSo, all the glances they exchanged this episode left me flailing.

I love to read all the theories and meta about the series, it makes it even more entertaining to watch. Although I hope that for the next episode recaps, there will be less and less comments about the same-old dissatisfaction about editing, camera angles and music choices and more discussion about the episode itself :) Reading too much negative comments can really dampen the enthusiasm.

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QUESTION: Where do you guys watch the subbed episodes? I've only been to one site that seems (so far) free from viruses.

But, I would love to get the inside scoop where you guys watch these dramas. Thanks so much!

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I just figured something out.

Puppets is to Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart
as
Subway is to Beautiful Gong Shim

Just something to fill empty TV time.

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The many many comments here too prove that this drama is successful and popular internationally. Maybe it is not for Korean fans. I think channels should really consider going global with their dramas instead of just focusing on airing in Korea (and China..). It's goof we have sites like viki and dramafever, but they get the episodes later and need to subtitle it. Production companies should do this instead, pre-preoduce the show, subtitle it and sell it that way and air simultaniously. Ahh, yeah i know, sweet dreams. I am also watching this because of LJK and so disappointed at the editing. he barely appears. I'm sick and tired or Kang haneul's sad crying face. It's getting too depressive. I want to explore Wang So more. He has more potential as a character, more hidden secrets and general badassness. And yes, please someone put LJK in a blockbuster already. He so deserves it and so far all of the projects he chose were nearly flops since he came back from the military. And not his fault, either, generally bad writing or bad production or just the theme not suiting Korean tastes. I really really wanted this series to be good. But 7 episodes into the story and LJK still gets 5 minutes of screen time. I want to punch the director in the face! and don't get me started on KHN's ridiculous wig. It's so cheap it hurts.

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i hope ill be reading the next recap for the next episode very soon..?
im dying to know what they were saying!
its driving me crazy to wait for the subbed episode..so even even it frustrates me so much that i cant understand a thing, i cant help not to watch the raw. and whats more surprising..i'm grinning from ear to ear watching it.?
its just episode 6 & im losing already lots of sleep.

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In all my years of being a beanie, I have never been this tired and negative over reading comments in the recaps. This drama is pulling off another drama behind the scenes.

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I love reading the comments. There are really those good analysis of the drama and its connection to the actual historical events. Keep them coming. Well done. They're helpful esp for those who have no knowledge of history like myself.

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