Drama viewership ratings for the week of Aug. 8-14, 2016

1 Rin90

August 14, 2016 at 3:14 AM

Daebak DOCTORS!! Cnt wait ep 17.. much tense for ths episode~ ughh..
I hope they increasing scene for leading actor and actresses rather than sae wo's appuchi...

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I know people will disagree, but Doctors should have been a 12 episode drama. The plot is so thin, and the drama is succeeding off the initial episode hype. I know, that yes I was one of those who hyped it up in the beginning (*my bad*), but since then the drama has stalled and now I can barely continue watching.

The boardroom fights are boring and so amateurishly written that it's clear they exist as filler. Once again another Korean drama that depicts its doctors as egotistical, and not caring about putting patients lives at risk.

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pogo

August 14, 2016 at 5:36 AM

Sadly, pre-production is no guarantee of quality (see: D-Day, Uncontrollably Fond)

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anonon

August 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM

Sadly, pre-production is no guarantee of quality (see: D-Day, Uncontrollably Fond)

Cheese in the Trap... Yeah, lots of things can still go wrong.

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celine

August 14, 2016 at 6:14 PM

I originally thought that pre-producing dramas is better than live-shooting because boy did we see dramas that went downhill because of the insane schedule (not to mention dead-tired actors). However, I've come to realize that both have plus and minus points. One point of interest is the opportunity to change certain aspects. Pre-producing a drama means no room for change once it airs unless they are willing to spend money to re-do some scenes/episodes. Doing live-shooting provides more flexibility. I think this difference is especially crucial once viewers' reactions or feedback come in.

In an interview, LJS seems to not be a huge fan of pre-production because he said he wants to know the feedback of the viewers so he can improve or change in the succeeding scenes. In addition, he said that viewers' positive feedback provides motivation for the cast and crew.

Both pre-producing and live-shooting can either be a hit or miss. Meeting halfway could be an option like what W did with EP 1-8 being done before it aired its first episode. If I remember correctly Flower Boy Ramyun Shop was sort of like this too (or was it the script that was finished halfway the entire series... not sure).

How kdramas work is really fascinating. That's my take-away from this conundrum. hehe!

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PBY

August 14, 2016 at 4:36 AM

I've seen both episodes. Park So Dam is great, but the rest - not so much. It started off super cringey and without much substance, but it somehow got better? I can't explain it.
Overall, it seems like something fluffy and glittery, to be watched without much analysis. It contains a lot of overused tropes, but maybe it'll take us somewhere new?
I just sincerely hope they don't squash/dull So Dam's characters into a helpless whiny damsel in distress.

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bips99

August 14, 2016 at 4:47 AM

I liked it ... its sort of the shows that are so bad that they are good :) ..

its kind of fun to watch. I'm actually liking AJH in it too. I have heard he is a terrible actor. But here he is just going with the flow and being so OTT that its fun.

Sadly i think JIW is a complete misfit here because he is playing the role so seriously when everything else is so campy and cheesy. i always get exited for his shows but he really has the worst script sense in the world

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dramalatte

August 14, 2016 at 5:32 AM

I also think same thing. I like the actor but I also think he was miscasted... idk maybe it's character or something. Whatever it is I ain't feeling

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fayyyy

August 14, 2016 at 6:51 AM

@bips99 Exactly! I mean JIW has this 'look' on his face as if he's trying to tell how heavy his burden is, while I kept thinking that people are living in the fear of death in other parts of the world and here the chaebol heroes act like the sky is falling on their head tsk tsk. His expressions are little too serious and at times I don't even want to consider his pain when it's PSD's character who has much to deal with.At least his harabuji is willing to take his share of pain but he has this 'who cares' look on his face, huff. Emotional baggage is fun, but the plot trope is overused, yeah.

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Cha

August 14, 2016 at 8:22 AM

I actually enjoyed it too ???AJH also improved a lot from his previous drama..i don't think the drama is that bad ?

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missme

August 14, 2016 at 8:50 PM

It's cheesy as hell, but funny. After watching plot heavy dramas for the last few months, it was weirdly refreshing watching.

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Sinjuma

August 14, 2016 at 10:15 AM

Yes, agreed with you.

The show somehow feel patchy and all the characters except Park So Dam were like so one-dimensional. The plot seems predictable but it is okay for me to watch since the show is easy on my eyes. Lol.

One thing though, JIW's hair looked very dry and fried?

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August 14, 2016 at 5:28 AM

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August 14, 2016 at 5:54 AM

Cinderella is actually good. If you like Goong, Coffee Prince or even My Girl, Cinderella is you kind of drama.

I can't wait for the next episode.

Well I am not probably amongst the majority as the current dramas that work for me are CF, Second to Last Love and Cinderella. I dropped W & Doctors. It is not I don't like these two but these dramas I could afford to watch later.

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yayabean

August 14, 2016 at 6:35 AM

I watched both episodes of Cinderella and I would not place it in the same category as Coffee Prince at all. Instead, it gave me a Boys Over Flowers vibes.

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August 14, 2016 at 6:44 AM

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Needaname

August 14, 2016 at 8:37 AM

Well, I watched the first two episodes to support PSD after BM and it is in my opinion not that good, but an easy watch. I think the main thing is that it seems outdated. The lavish mansion, the overly rich boys, the poor female working 10 part time jobs..etc. I did not watch BOF but Hana Yori Dango and it does have the feel of HYD. But, all this overacting, overkilling the characters to establish the story is a bit much, as in so out there you just have to go along that ok this is happening and move along. I think the issue with shows like these is always how do you get the story going without having to make everyone so extreme? Especially when it's supposed to be fairytale like as in not real so how do you make it relatable? Ok we understand stepmom is supposed to be evil, does she need to be that bad? It takes it to the extreme that it's hard to relate to the characters as they are just so out there. JIL pretty much had one expression the whole time, we get it, no need to overkill. I think my favorite character so far is HJA, at least he is more nuanced. Anyways, hopefully the next episodes will be better!

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windsun33

August 14, 2016 at 12:16 PM

Think of it like guilt pleasure... like it eating chocolate cake in middle of night.

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windsun33

August 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM

It's actually doesn't take itself too seriously and has lots of funny deadpan tongue-in-cheek moments which I like!

As long as the focus is on park so dam's character I'm sold. She is kick-butt awesome at the moment. I hope she doesn't get all boring once she falls in love. I'm 100% ok with her not ending up with any of the "Knights" and just wanting to see her grow as a character and kick some chaebol ass! ?

There were many moments in Ep 1 where I rolled my eyes and went like, "Seriously?!" But honestly, the 2nd episode is still much better than the first.
I think the PD and writer went too far in Episode 1 trying to show us how the the 3 knights were 'prince-like'.

I like it overall. I'm willing to give it a go for Park So Dam =)

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3 Rin90

August 14, 2016 at 3:20 AM

watching scond to last love ep 1&2 on sOne and ths drama chaemitta.. funny. I will follow ths drama!

W 2 W - how will kangcul fight with faceless? And chukahamnida for the rating. It will break 15% lets hope. But didnt want UF drop either ~ just like Doctors + monster, monster manage to gt 10++ viewrship. Im dropping monster since i watch doctors. Will catch up later.

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Rin90

August 14, 2016 at 5:24 AM

Im enjoying BLood tough im not ajh fans.

I too feel that JIW doesn't suit the drama. He is too ... maybe serious, stern for this light comedy. I don't know exactly what but something doesn't work for him here.

I was also surprised by AJH surprisingly appropriate acting. But I remember I long believed that Park Shin Hye was a consistency poor actress as well. Now, thanks to Pinocchio and Doctors, I have accepted that she was not entirely responsable for her past decade of embarrassing acting. The characters she had to portray may not have been the most inspirational and maybe AJH is pulling a PSH?

As for the plot itself, I almost quitted at the beginning, during the intolerably cliché scene between Cinderella, her stepmother and her fake sister. I stayed because the drama reminds me Atashinchi no Danshi with Maki Horikita and I finally got entertained. I want something not too sadly deeply emotionally involving and for now it fulfills my needs

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fayyyy

August 14, 2016 at 6:58 AM

@bips99 Thanks for explaining and sharing my feelings lol.

@Rio Yeah please watch the drama...AJH is actually nailing his role,at least for me. With the cheesiness of the show his mood and vibe bode quite well. Also he and PSD's scenes together are funny and offbeat, it's a shame that the drama is being pre produced or else I would have totally been a fan of the show if it was PSD-AJH.. There had been so many different take on the cinderella story so far, so it would not have hurt if for once a bad boy-prince gets the girl. We have had too many nice prince in fairyland,also it's AJH's character who got the shoes from cinderella lol, and at the same time he picked her out from the lot in the pub. May be I saw some similarities a little too quickly and chose a side. But anyway I'd stick for two or more episodes to see how it goes, might drop it later on.

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Deedee

August 14, 2016 at 7:51 AM

We could be surprised you know. As you said, many different versions of Cinderella have been made, and we could get another one here.

After all, it's a TVN's drama. To fulfill their content trend leader reputation, an unexpected prince could get the girl.
Maybe the secretary ? Anybody but JIW please.

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Maru Hime

August 14, 2016 at 8:10 AM

@sky

I'm so glad that there's another person apart from me actively shipping AJH with PSD in the Show. I've never seen him in other dramas but he's such an adorable idiot here. I mean, he looks model-perfect and then he opens his mouth with Ha-Won and says all sorts of incredibly funny and stupid stuff.

Like, when he was talking about being so great and having goosebumps. "Do you see my goosebumps?"

And thanks to the comments, I realized that JIW does feel lilke he's acting in a melodrama. Which is not suited at all for the show right now.

I love how people are calling it cheesy and campy cuz that's what it is. I'm in the minority I guess but even though I know how silly Show is, I still love it.

EMBRACE THE CHEESE!

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fayyyy

August 14, 2016 at 9:06 AM

@deedee yes anyone but JIW :S. I don't mind the secretary or even the third brother he seems like falling for the damsel in distress too. Sadly when we know who's gonna be with who, the fun portion fizzles a little. For that single reason I'm always a fan of reply series.There's equal chance for every candidate in line .
@Mawu haha glad to be on the minority team. Also yes it's funny how he tries to woo ha won but every time she is oblivious to his charm.

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August 16, 2016 at 7:40 PM

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rhiaa

August 14, 2016 at 8:35 AM

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(joining the campout for the recap!)

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6 CatoCat

August 14, 2016 at 3:38 AM

Age of Youth gained few points and Cinderella and The Four Knights hasn't generated much of k-netizens praise. JTBC's low budget original show touch the strings of heart and TVN's the glamorous channel's high budget show kind of flopped in it's 1st week.

TVN should be the one taking risks and bring forward innovative content. Instead that space of taken by JTBC.

W - Two Worlds will eat UF alive. This is what i wish for.

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vkook

August 14, 2016 at 5:31 AM

Actually Cinderella and The Four Knights was pre-produced without a broadcaster. Even after they finished filming, no station was willing to take it. Then tvN took the drama and make a new timeslot for it. It's kind of like they are just betting on it. If the drama gets a good rating, then it's great. If not, they have nothing to lose either. In fact, i think it created quite a buzz on the internet because, well, no matter how cheesy the plot is, Cinderella stories never get old.

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CatoCat

August 14, 2016 at 7:23 AM

Who wanted to burn money on this kind of script? TVN must have paid something to get the rights to air it. Why would you produce a drama when you haven't planned or made a contract with any broadcast station?

This actually feels like a technique used to erase any proof of black money. It happens much in highly corrupt countries.

As most commentators have said the 1st 2 episodes lacked concept and felt like different scenarios put together to make something coherent.

It looks like a High-Budget show. Direction Promotion of Luxury goods and brands but i will keep watch it for Modern Cinderella's up and downs with 3 Knights.

Kang Ji Woon just flips every table in the show. Writer was thoroughly confused how to create a proper character and result is in front of audience.

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Surgically-enhanced slice of life? Ahhh...

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swetu

August 14, 2016 at 5:11 PM

Same. At first I was one of the ones defending it, but then I noticed I lost all interest in watching. It is boring, stale and nothing happens. There is no attachment to any of the characters, not even the leads.

There is no character development, it's almost like listening to an audio book, non of the characters feel "real".

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ninani

August 15, 2016 at 8:57 AM

Doctors? I've dropped it on its 1st ep. I kept asking to myself why i lost the interest:

Is it the character? Probably. Why would u create a rebel-arogant-strong female if then u will put her in a series of unfortunate event when she's bcame an usual melo helpless girl who needs a lead male to save her?

Is it the actor? Maybe. I've seen many PSH's dramas and she almost always playing the same type of character. Kinda boring for me.

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yulyuli

August 15, 2016 at 10:20 AM

Maybe she is only offered those types of roles? Or maybe character growth is a thing and a strong girl crying her sorrow doesn't make her any weaker? And where did a male save her this time? Lmao people just can't seem to get over a show that shall not be named, and where the female lead wasn't even the worse (a hint: the male leads (2) were even worse, but oppar worshipers are too damn blinded)

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8 Bùi Quốc Khánh

August 14, 2016 at 3:57 AM

Age of Youth now increase, but with super slow speed.
I'm so sad that The Good Wife contine to down, maybe this drama not suitable for Korean people.
Five Children become more makjang and stupid after ep 30~. Script make me feel annoying.
Hope Wanted will do their best in final week, so sad that they stills not done fliming.

I really enjoyed the first two episodes of Cinderella and the Four Knights! I appreciate that the lead lady is kind of a badass about her life which is a nice change of pace for usual Cinderella romcoms.

As always I'm ADDICTED to Let's Fight Ghost and Doctors! I'm so stoked to see where they're going and also sad to know they'll be ending soon.

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Alessar

August 14, 2016 at 7:13 AM

It is an actual Cinderella Story complete with wicked stepmother and stepsister, but you're right it's really nice that the main woman on this show can kick the ass of the obnoxious guys she's going to be living with. Honestly at this point I like the fourth guy, the assistant to the chairman, much better than his actual three grandsons. It's fluff but I enjoyed it. Now that she's out of the obnoxious house I think it'll be a more pleasant show to watch. And I actually think that you know who's acting was a little bit better perhaps because he got coaching from his wife.

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August 14, 2016 at 4:38 AM

Cinderella is now a confirmed FLOP, the ratings go down in the second one........

Glad Doctors finally broke the 20% mark.

Not surprised UF went up since there was no competition on Thur. I expect W to be back in top spot when it returns.

I don't mind Cinderella and the Four Knights so much. I like the cast and knew the familiar troupe wasn't gonna break any ratings records. I'm just watching cuz it's easy-breezy and not much of brain work involved. XD

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13 What. Wow. Weally. Wicked.

August 14, 2016 at 4:49 AM

W is the best kdrama I've seen since Healer. Quite similar in a number of aspects:

1) Both "crack" dramas where it's soooo easy to get addicted to and yearn for more (no idea what will happen next).

2) Didn't reach domestic success (similar ratings) but have a fervent and passionate following here on DB :p (recaps need to surpass 1,000 soon).

August 16, 2016 at 7:59 AM

I find LJS damn gud actor. He has been appreciate for his acting skill in every of his drama. So, to make JCW look awesome, you don't need to bring LJS down. I personally found KC's character amazing..
It's a humble request not to insult one actor who is actually good to appreciate your favourite and well it is a fact that W is one 1 in it's slot..

PS- I am not insulting Healer, I liked that show as well

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gem28

August 14, 2016 at 6:40 AM

Why do people overreact. Pogo stated facts, how is she being rude?? Its a fact that although Healer had a spectacular run for most part story wise minus the last two episodes, it didn't quite deliver in terms of ratings. That does not nullify the fact that it was a good, addictive show.

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Ririri

August 14, 2016 at 6:59 AM

Because the way she said it looked like Healer was not a good show. I cannot know her intentions through words, so I could be wrong. Sorry if it looked like I over reacted

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August 14, 2016 at 9:24 AM

Like everyone else said, literally all I did was point out the ratings, since the comment I was responding to compared the ratings/success of the two dramas.

Not sure what's rude about that, or why the actors' abilities come into the picture.

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Ririri

August 14, 2016 at 10:45 AM

mary

August 14, 2016 at 8:48 AM

Yep. Healer was up against Punch in that timeslot. I remember live watching both and loving both Punch and Healer for different reasons. But just for accuracy/record-keeping purposes, Punch was the first in that spot while they were airing. I think this is what the replies are referring to when they correct the (2) in the original comment.

Anyway, even if I want my shows to get higher rating, I also don't mind them being low (see Age of Youth) as long as there's community like here in DB to spazz/chat with.

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azkaa

August 14, 2016 at 5:42 PM

For all the time you sneakily insert Age of Youth related comment, i am in love Mary ? LOL

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ixora

August 14, 2016 at 9:04 AM

In reply to sorrynotsorry,
yes you are right. Healer went up against Punch at that time which also has KRW as the lead. I didnt watch the whole story of both dramas, but all I know is that both Healer and Punch were well received based on comments from korean netizens.

I didn't deny that W is better in terms of ratings, did I? Comparison isn't only done through ratings, there are other aspects too. I just didn't like the fact that only because of ratings some people like to push Healer down.

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soapbox

August 14, 2016 at 8:36 AM

@Ririri

Nobody put down Healer as a show, the people replying that you got mad at were purely talking about ratings which is the whole point of a ratings post.

And like I said, everything else you mention is subjective. You think Ji Changwook is a better actor, that's fine. Personally, Ji Changwook's acting gets a bit too theatrical to pull much emotion from me besides the occasional swooning. When you say hurt and anger, I've never seen him manage to show something as genuine and raw as Jongsuk did at the end of W's episode 5. I don't know about anything else, but Jongsuk's strong point has always been the ability to evoke empathy so his hurt and anger speaks more to me.

See? It's all subjective and neither of us are wrong but it's a bit meaningless in a ratings post. And it's even more embarrassing to argue about because I think both Jongsuk and Changwook have a long way to go anyway, neither are Oscar-worthy.

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Ririri

August 14, 2016 at 10:20 AM

I am sorry for bringing up actors' acting skills, but I thought an actor's acting also helps with the ratings.

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aimi

August 14, 2016 at 4:52 PM

Since you brought up the issue of who is better at acting, in my opinion LJS has better range than JCW but you agree to disagree right?

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Cipher

August 14, 2016 at 6:53 PM

Since I saw you bring up Pinocchio in the comments below and seem to like to compare them, I have to point out the total viewing of Pinocchio on its officially licensed site in China is 1.84 billion while that for Healer is 0.6 billion.

By saying domestic success you mean in Korea right? Then no. 2 is not quite true because so far W is the current no. 1 in its time slot since its second week and it is a really talked about drama in Korea now. Healer, on the other hand, was more successful internationally than in Korea. Its ratings were okay averaging in on 8% and it did reach 10% once.

Here in DB, Healer was on a whole new level. The following here was insane. I am not sure if W will reach that, but so far it is the most talked about here.

Since W is yet to reach its halfway mark, its current success is not guaranteed yet. Things can change, but so far it is doing really well.

I enjoyed Healer and am enjoying W although I definitely don't think Healer was the best kdrama and the jury is still out on W. Let's assume W doesn't derail like crazy and plateaus for the rest of the run, I think it will still qualify as a fresh and more exciting story than Healer.

The thing that Healer had going for it for the romance. Hopefully, W is getting there but I am not that sure.

In terms of AGB nationwide ratings, W easily beats Healer which didn't surpass 10% except for one episode and average 8.6% for the whole series. Average for Seoul wasn't far off with 9.2%

JCW and LJS both do well if cast in the right roles and have their own charms. But I wouldn't say JCW can show a better range of emotions. I have watched at least 3 dramas of each actor, LJS does hit me in the gut when it comes to emotional scenes more than JCW but then it could just be a personal preference.

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Ririri

August 14, 2016 at 7:48 AM

I agree that W is better when it comes to ratings, but the story isn't something new although they are executing it beautifully. Also, good ratings isn't the only thing to measure success.
But I don't want anyone to argue anymore. So yeah, W is better than Healer in every aspect be it the storyline, actors or ratings.

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deathbychocolate

August 14, 2016 at 10:27 AM

W's story isn't something new? Compared to what? I'm sorry but I have to disagree to that. The storyline is quite original and fresh in my point of view.

And saying that W is much better than Healer in all aspect just to avoid arguing? I love both shows but it didn't came to mind to compare both of them, besides with what standards?These two shots have different genre too and W is still airing.

Anyway, the people above are just trying to explain that to you a.) Ratings are hard fact. Very objective b.) Actor's preferences are highly subjective. You made a mistake in your 2nd point that's why pogo corrected you and instead of thanking pogo, you called pogo rude. And then you started comparing actors and clearly prefers one of them, that's fine because that's your preference but don't expect others to agree with you as well. Some might, some might not.

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Ririri

August 14, 2016 at 10:38 AM

That comment was not made by me, fyi. I remember someone in the OT said that there is a Japanese drama with similar plot, so that is why I said that it isn't something new. I know W's ratings are better than Healer's. I never said anything about ratings, I just didn't like the way pogo had put it. I was wrong to call her rude, I am sorry

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August 14, 2016 at 6:33 PM

Actor preference is subjective indeed.

I originally did not understand the love for LJS and the rave both in Korea and internationally about his acting, but when I watched him for the first time, I got it. haha! I have yet to see another actor who can do what he does in emotional scenes except maybe for Yoo Ah-in.

JCW is promising, but I have yet to see him truly explore the different aspects of acting. His memorable performances on the small screen for me were really in Empress Ki and Healer only. He has yet to really breakout. He did great in Healer, but I think he can do so much more and I cannot wait for him to reach the same heights as KSH, LJS, and LMH who are recognized Hallyu stars locally and internationally.

I cannot wait for his new drama K2 with Yoona!

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Loren

August 14, 2016 at 9:59 PM

@Celine

If you like LJS's emotional spectrum, you should definitely check out Yoon Shi Yoon. (And none of his recent stuff, cause lately he's been taking all the wrong roles. But his classics are all top notch!) His emotional acting and LJS's are really my style!!! They both know how to speak such volume and feeling with their intense scenes! Whereas others always seem to fall just that teensy bit short, like they haven't completely emersed themselves in the character like YSY&LJS seem to. I like Yoo Ah In too.

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August 15, 2016 at 1:27 AM

@SoDamn @Loren JCW has done and is still doing theatre. Theatre acting requires a lot of experience and good skills I think, and critics who watched his play even said that he is an actor with thousand faces. But as you said this is all subjective, I was just stating what acting critics said. But don't give the credit of someone's nice work to senior actors.
He acted so perfectly because he knows how to not because of senior actors. What if you did something well and all credit was given to someone who just advised you? How would you feel? If LJS became a hallyu because of acting then Ji Sung should have been one too because he acts better than LJS.

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Ririri

August 15, 2016 at 1:36 AM

Ji sung is better than LJS is only my opinion and I don't want anyone to agree, but I think many people thinks the same.
I don't see how LJS has explored different aspects of acting? He has also played average roles except 1 or 2 like JCW.

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Ririri

August 15, 2016 at 1:50 AM

I don't know why some people are trying to prove me wrong when I had already accepted my mistake.
But I can't accept the fact the JCW shined because of his seniors, I mean really? As Taylor Swift said we all achieve we do because of our hard work not someone else's. Do you all really think it was right to say that? Not only for JCW but it applies to everyone who has worked hard to achieve something and someone else got credit.

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Loren

August 15, 2016 at 5:16 AM

@Riri yeah sure, I don't have anything against saying that JS is a superior actor to LJS, because only he has done a role where he plays 6 different characters in the same show! Obviously that requires a great amount of talent. What exactly has JCW done along those lines that is not run of the mil-ish type stuff, which didn't have better script and actors to make him shine! And I don't mean scarce theatre roles, that nobody here on DB has heard of. Since you want to bring every actor under the sun into the argument of what a BAD actor LJS is in comparison, the same can be applied to JCW. Infact even in Empress Ki, Jo Jin Mo and Ha Ji Won were on a whole other level compared to JCW. He is only a rookie actor, he has it in him to improve with each role he takes but right now he's nothing special. Even in Korea he is considered a B-list actor material.

But whatever, no use arguing since you already agreed that W is better than Healer in terms of storyline, actors or rating. Lol

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Ririri

14 Is Doctors worth watching?

August 14, 2016 at 4:51 AM

Got up to halfway of Doctors but stopped.

Just got bored of it. Show started quite promisingly but dragged and slowed down a lot.

The hospital politics and the lack of real and interesting conflict kinda put me off.

I think "autopilot" is a good description of how I feel about Doctors - I dropped it for many of the same reasons.

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michykdrama

August 14, 2016 at 2:59 PM

My friends who are watching Doctors say it's like every day happiness-no climax but just daily feel good-ness. So if that sounds like your kind of thing then go for it!

Personally I prefer my plots fast going and romance angsty with higher stakes. Girlfriday said it Perfectly when describing W's OTP: "The romance is all the sweeter when there’s death and mayhem constantly clipping at their heels, and every happy moment feels all the more precious because it’s slipping from their grasp even as they’re enjoying it in the present."

I live for the heart wrenching angsty bits, as long as the ending is happy! (It must to make it worth it!)
Perhaps I'm just a closet masochist at heart. Lol.

Anyway, I will still give Cinderella a try though the comments are making me nervous. Even Korean viewers are commenting the same things that others have commented above.

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sorrynotsorry

August 14, 2016 at 7:20 AM

I agree. All the time people are saying so and so doesn't know how to pick good scripts. I imagine the same 5 or so actors get picks of about every drama and the rest are 2nd, 3rd, 4th down the way. A Hollywood actress even mentioned this happens there...she would get a script and it would have already been through several actresses...usually the same ones before she'd get it.

@Celine

I think you raised a very good point which probably explains his bad choice in scripts. As much as I love JIW, he's nowhere near KSH, LMH, LJS level of popularity where he gets love calls from directors for the best scripts. Nor is he willing to take the second lead role in innovative but off-beat roles which would at least stretch his acting range and give him more exposure like Kim Bum, Namgoong Min, Song Jae rim or Lee Soo Hyuk does, so he's stuck in lead roles for B-list or C-list rom com dramas which never happen to be very good. I think he's also typecast.

I have often wished he'd pull a SIG and do other dramas other than rom coms. But, not every actor can do what SIG does. He's not insanely popular but he works with what he has and does deliver. In the end, it's all about choices...

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sorrynotsorry

August 14, 2016 at 9:51 AM

I agree, I think there is a issue with lead actors going into smaller roles but if the role is worth it re: new challenges, great script, I think they should do it.

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michykdrama

August 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM

Nope, not everyone hated Cinderella. I for one enjoyed it! Haha. I loved Park So Dam kicking butt and I LOVED her line to Grandpa: *spoiler?*

"Whoa, I thought that rich boys weren’t given decorum lessons on purpose. In case they grew up to be too good and donate all their money. So I thought they were raised to be people with terrible personalities who only care about money, on purpose!"

I was laughing so hard. I love humour like this that's tongue in cheek and poking fun at all bratty drama chaebols.

August 14, 2016 at 4:31 PM

" I suppose part of it is the “star” factor – PSH etc., which is not as much of a factor outside Korea."
Based on the comments on this site and some complaints online?
Doctors is still number 1 show on both Dramafever and viki where they had exclusive for UF and W.
Despites all the lost of interest and complaints it seems to do better than your favorite shows in both korea and online.

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August 14, 2016 at 5:44 PM

"Doctors is still number 1 show on both Dramafever and viki where they had exclusive for UF and W."

Yes, Doctors is No.1 and W is No.2 on viki, but you have to consider the fact that W is viki pass exclusive while Doctors is not. And Dramafever does not even have W. So I don't think it's fair to say Doctors is doing the best online now. At least not for certain, you know.

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Kfan

August 14, 2016 at 8:08 PM

doctors is no 1..........still w is the most talked and viewed drama in korea

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dramakid

August 14, 2016 at 11:01 PM

Why can't people just leave Doctors alone?. I'm not watching the drama but the jealousy the drama is getting about it's rating is way to much. It's not like it's their fault the drama is getting high ratings. W is actually doing well. It's increasing graudually. I'm sure before it finishes it's run,and if the story keeps it's freshness,then it'll most likely cross the 20% mark. Just be patient.just becos u don't find Doctors interesting doesn't mean other don't too. The time u use in typing your disappointment about the ratings,why not use it to appreciate the drama u love.

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August 15, 2016 at 2:35 AM

You have to consider the fact that Doctors aren't even exclusive in both viki and DF but it's #1 in both sites.
For a show that have no popular popular male lead it and keep getting hated on for winning rating in Korea it means something tight?

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August 15, 2016 at 2:39 AM

@diana most talked? Yes!

But most viewed? Are we talking about rating or their online views?
And Doctors won back #1 CPI last week too.

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HPfangirl

August 15, 2016 at 4:01 AM

Doctors is wiki pass exclusive though in some parts of the world. It just started earlier than W so ofc it naturally has more following initially...

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August 15, 2016 at 2:42 AM

Their subjects are different. Doctors is about humanity and growth. So it'd be a lot more slower and less fun than AOY, where it's about friendship and youth

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bd5

August 15, 2016 at 2:10 AM

Not necessarily different.

Not my type of show at all, but its type has been quite popular in the US as well ("Grey's Anatomy" - basically a night-time soap set in a hospital setting).

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bd5

August 15, 2016 at 2:12 AM

And yes, AoY is a "slice of life" show (and a very good one at that); "Doctors" is NOT a SoL show.

August 14, 2016 at 9:06 AM

Age of Youth is a total ❤❤
I just cannot get enough with this drama. I have been very loyal to jTBC this year and all are favourites. ?
The show is not finish yet but I'm already wanting a season 2 ?? lol

Love W as usual. The only two dramas that I really love right now.

Watched Cinderella too, nothing new with the plot but I'm enjoying Park So Dam as modern Cinderella. The 4 knight still not really captivating my eyes. ?

August 15, 2016 at 3:56 AM

This is really getting boring that when their fave doesn't get exactly the ratings they wish for it to have, they turn and blame or compare it to Doctors. I mean come on, seriously?? They're not even in the same time slot omg. First BM and now even W, I've seen somewhere even UF!

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August 14, 2016 at 9:38 AM

i am falling for Cinderella especially because of PSD's character. this drama seems light and cheesy , but i am loving the script, it's funny and I wish I could say some of the words she said.
W is on top of my favourite drama list. The chemistry between the OTP is awesome.
lastly, Lets Fight, Ghost is a surprise fun to watch drama! romance, fighting/action, mystery, horror, melodrama... where else can we find these topics.. but treated lightly.

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Adal

August 14, 2016 at 10:35 AM

Hi!

August 15, 2016 at 10:22 AM

Hey there fellow Disney lover!

Thanks to my pre-teen kids, I've developed a new appreciation for Disney's sitcoms?so I'll happily join the club...

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purpleowl

August 15, 2016 at 2:40 PM

@blnmom Suite Life was my favorite. Can't decide between the original or the sequel.

@Mothwabit aka Mawu anime & late elementary/middle school literature are my main form of entertainment after kdramas.

@Adal Disney Channel forever. I don't know if it's being a child development major but I just can't let go. My favorite is Liv and Maddie but I like several other shows.

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August 14, 2016 at 11:01 AM

anybody watching monster???

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windsun33

August 14, 2016 at 12:59 PM

I did for a while, but just so slow moving that will wait til it is done (50 episodes) and then catch the last two episodes to see how it ends. I did not find it particularly good, even for a weekend drama - something I fast forward a lot on, and gave up even on that about 10 episodes ago.

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August 14, 2016 at 3:32 PM

1. 'Doctors' keeps surprising and amazing me every airing week. Despite no coherent plot or storyline present it keeps drawing that massive audience. And also for me the main pairing doesn't click at all. Though I gotta admit I'm still watching because I'm just a sucker for Park Shin Hye.

2. 'Cinderella and Four Knights' is cheesy and on top of that has a real lackluster cast who can't make the storyline charming instead of cringe worthy. Don't really believe the ratings will change for the better.

3. 'Uncontrollably Fond' has its core audience rooted now. If the leads were better actors it might have worked with the overly angsty plot. Suzy and Kim Woo Bin don't get me invested and understanding towards their plots. In a melo you should feel sad and sobby for the characters. If I get annoyed and eye rolling at the main pairing than that means the actors don't do their job right.

4.'The Good Wife' ratings are good I hope? It seems they have decided to make Tae Joon the ultimate antagonist now. Which could get very interesting to see how ruthless he gets now that Hye Kyung is with Joong Won.

Still I gotta say their elevator/hotel scene didn't get me hooked at all despite being so explicit. Yoon Kye Sang is doing the 0815 swooning smiles and longing looks acting. Not outstanding enough when acting besides Jeon Do Yeon. It seems like he's adapting to her acting instead of going toe to toe besides her. Their chemistry feels very flat

Yoo Ji Tae on the other side makes his presence known besides Jeon Do Yeon and is not afraid to go all in. Maybe that's why despite the writing pointing towards the other direction the chemistry is still so heavy.

I just wish Jung Il Woo would pick that up, to be honest, since so far he's kind of turning on the melo. :/ Come one, Jung Il Woo! We've all seen FBRS! We know you've got comedy chops!

Ahn Jae Hyun has also surprised me. No, he's not a great actor, but his just SO full of himself. It's kind of hilarious.

And the heroine is just a badass. When *Spoiler?* JIW's character was being all macho-bully-lead-guy and she just flipped him round and was like, "Touch me again, you die." Like, what with Park Shin Hye's character over on Doctors and now this girl- I'm liking it. I really am. xD

So, no. Nothing extraordinary. No major shocks, plot-wise. But it's fluffy and fun and next week the cohabitation hijinks start, so... I'm definitely going to keep tuning in. ;)

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August 15, 2016 at 2:33 AM

The characters in Doctors have changed so much from the beginning.
I doubt that you guys are actually watching or pay attention.
I mean looking at people here enjoy show like Cinderella but hating on Doctors lol. Makes so much sense

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Andee

August 15, 2016 at 7:42 AM

That's what I kinda feel is the problem. It's good to see some perspectives outside your own for sure, but more often than not some of the people who constantly express their dislike like that seem to push their own opinions on those who like it instead. 'Course, some parts of this community are much more civil expressing their opinions and discussing their concerns, but I can recall some times where it was like "This other drama is soooo much better than the one you're watching! How could you not watch this drama and like this crap?" Yeah, it's hard to not feel bad for having your own perspective in this case...

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sancheezy

August 15, 2016 at 6:00 AM

the people who loved cinderella and hate doctor as you said may not be the same person,
there's not much discussing regarding cinderella since it only has 2 ep but the doctors gain a lot of comment and already b aired for 7 weeks?

here http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Healer/Episode_Ratings

Actually I'm very much in-sync in korean rating except for yongpal, that drama beyond sux. City hunter is way better than Healer and I'm not even LMH fan. yup you don't need the best acting chop in order to success, LMH is a perfect example.

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devon

August 15, 2016 at 5:18 PM

also I just checked this chinese youku... pinocchio is no 1 followed by heirs and UF. Healer is nowhere to be found. LMAO!

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August 16, 2016 at 6:05 AM

Doctors! 20+% ratings finally!!!

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	Ep. #	Station	Rating
Monday, Aug. 8
Monster	39	MBC	Pre-empted
Doctors	15	SBS	21.3%
Bring It On, Ghost	9	tvN	2.8%
Tuesday, Aug. 9
Monster	39	MBC	9.8%
Doctors	16	SBS	20.6%
Bring It On, Ghost	10	tvN	3.6%
Wednesday, Aug. 10
Uncontrollably Fond	11	KBS	7.9%
W—Two Worlds	7	MBC	13.8%
Wanted	15	SBS	Pre-empted
Thursday, Aug. 11
Uncontrollably Fond	12	KBS	9.9%
W—Two Worlds	8	MBC	Pre-empted
Wanted	16	SBS	Pre-empted
Friday, Aug. 12
Age of Youth	7	JTBC	1.4%
The Good Wife	11	tvN	4.5%
Cinderella and the Four Knights	1	tvN	3.5%
Saturday, Aug. 13
Five Kids	51	KBS	24.1%
All’s Well With a Happy Home	48	MBC	20.4%
Flower in Prison	29	MBC	Pre-empted
Second to Last Love	4	SBS	Pre-empted
Yes, That’s How It Is	52	SBS	Pre-empted
Age of Youth	8	JTBC	1.4%
The Good Wife	12	tvN	4.2%
Cinderella and the Four Knights	2	tvN	1.8%
Sunday, Aug. 14
Five Kids	52	KBS	28.6%
All’s Well With a Happy Home	49	MBC	17.6%
Flower in Prison	30	MBC	Pre-empted
Second to Last Love	4	SBS	11.8%
Yes, That’s How It Is	52	SBS	9.7%