Beautiful Mind: Episode 12
by murasakimi
The mysterious man in the wheelchair finally makes his move, and what he reveals pushes a few of our characters to the brink. It’s time for father and son to take center stage, but right when it seems like they are beginning to see eye-to-eye, a dark truth comes to light with some devastating consequences.
EPISODE 12 RECAP
As a child, Young-oh draws a picture of himself and his father, and in voiceover he says how much he loves his father; and how, like an angel, he came down to save him. We flash briefly through the events that led to Young-oh’s adoption, and the fateful surgery that at once healed him and disabled him.
Back in the present, we pick up from where we left off with Dr. Lee and Director Kang. Dr. Lee demands to know if they are accepting foreign investments, and whether they have relinquished ownership of their research to those investors who only care about money. He begs Director Kang to reconsider his position, going so far as to get on his knees.
Director Kang uses this moment to bring Dr. Lee’s attention to the other man in the room: his old colleague, DR. OH YOUNG-BAE, an investor from a company called Green Pharmacy. Young-bae turns in his wheelchair and meaningfully comments on how well Dr. Lee’s son has grown up.
In his office, Young-oh makes some tea as Min-jae opines on how Young-oh must have been expecting some kind of development in his frontal lobe, which is why he requested the MRI. Young-oh denies it immediately and claims to be pleased with the results. Now he has confirmed that emotions can confuse people, but they have nothing to do with his condition.
With a tiny smirk, she throws his words back at him, saying, “Your lips may lie, but your body cannot.” She then removes the teapot from his hand to stop him from overfilling his teacup.
He seems stunned to be betrayed by his body, and swiftly moves off topic to avoid further discussion. Then he inquiries about the patient she needs help with.
Young-oh and Min-jae meet with the patient, who describes a mysterious and excruciating ghost pain on her face. Min-jae colors in the patient’s medical history and explains that she had a brain tumor removed a year ago. The patient begs Young-oh to cut out all the nerves on her face, willing to do anything to stop the pain.
Solemnly, he tells her that unfortunately, her nerves were already removed during her previous surgery. He explains that she has a chronic condition known as neuropathic pain, which occurs when nerve fibers are damaged (or in her case removed), and causes the body to send incorrect signals to other pain centers. Sadly, there is nothing that can be done to eliminate the pain. The patient storms out angrily, as Min-jae watches with tears in her eyes.
When they are alone, Min-jae gets a little philosophical as she wonders if the woman is meant to suffer because life without suffering is not real. She then uses it as an opportunity to explain her side of things, and says that Young-oh was the only one who was nice to her without having a reason, but when she discovered that his kindness was fake, her life suddenly seemed fake as well. She became angry with him, but over time she came to understand that what she really felt was pain.
Having expressed interest in her use of the word “pain,” Young-oh asks what she means. She hopes that Young-oh can accept suffering as a part of life one day, because perhaps that is what normal people do, though she isn’t really sure herself. Then, as if she had been waiting for the right moment, she asks if they can start over from the beginning.
Dr. Lee and Young-bae meet privately, and Dr. Lee wastes no time asking what Young-bae wants. Young-bae simply wants him to join his company and invest in their stem cell research. Dr. Lee rejects his proposal, stating that he’s committed his life to this research in the hopes that one day surgeons will no longer be needed. Big pharmaceutical companies like Young-bae’s are only interested in making money and driving up the prices of medicine, while sick people in need serve as collateral to their greed. He refuses to ever give up his research so that they can line their pockets.
Sensing that he isn’t getting anywhere, Young-bae tries to attack Dr. Lee’s weak spot by bringing up his son. Young-bae reminds his former colleague that he promised to devote his life to raising Young-oh into a normal person, but that doesn’t seem to be his real focus. Provoked, Dr. Lee grips the fabric of Young-bae’s jacket and tells him that he has no right to ridicule his life. Unfazed, Young-bae replies back bitterly, “Don’t I?” and points out the fact that he is in a wheelchair.
He pushes Dr. Lee’s hand away, and contemplates paying Young-oh a visit for a consultation to fix his legs. Young-bae then asks if Dr. Lee’s son knows that his father’s mistake made him the way he is. Dr. Lee tenses up at the implied threat, and Young-bae concludes that his son must not know. He threatens to tell Young-oh the truth if Dr. Lee continues to refuse his offer.
Jin-sung arrives at the hospital and repeatedly calls Young-oh, who refuses to answer. She slips into a crowded elevator and tries again. The elevator empties on the next floor until she is left alone with Young-oh, who was standing in the back.
She gathers her courage to face him; after hesitating at first, she then bursts out indignantly, demanding to know why he isn’t picking up the phone. He tries to leave without answering, but she stops him and says that because he’s much smarter and more eloquent than her, she knows she can’t win by arguing. So instead, she asks if it is possible not to complicate their relationship; all she wants is time to spend time with him.
He doesn’t answer, and after she’s done talking, he coldly leaves her alone in the elevator.
In another part of the hospital, Dr. Hwang meets with a patient’s very pregnant wife to discuss the her husband’s condition. He is terminally ill with cancer. He needs a very dangerous surgery but the likelihood of survival is low, and moreover, should he survive he will likely be paralyzed and need to rely on a respirator for the rest of his life.
The wife is surprisingly very knowledgeable on the potential outcomes of her husband’s condition, and seems levelheaded about the entire situation. She tells Dr. Hwang that her husband has been rejected by twelve other hospitals that have refused to operate because of the hopelessness of his case.
She articulately explains to Dr. Hwang, while holding her husband’s hand, that she doesn’t expect him to cure her husband or extend his life by years. She just wants him to give them a little more time so that her husband may see the birth of their child. It’s then that her voice breaks and her eyes well with tears as she explains their very modest hopes.
Young-oh, who overhears the entire thing, steps in and offers to do the surgery.
Later, Dr. Lee meets with Young-oh to express his surprise that Young-oh agreed to do the surgery since he’s always selected patients based on the probability of success. He wonders aloud if Young-oh is desperate to prove his superiority by taking on such a risky case. Young-oh’s response is vague as he replies that he is also curious to see why he’s doing this.
Young-oh hands the operation consent form to the patient, but reiterates how difficult the surgery will be and the life-altering consequences it may have. The husband smiles softly and puts on a brave face, having heard all the risks many times before. He then asks Young-oh what kind of person he is, since accepting such a dangerous surgery with so many potential complications could harm his medical career should things go wrong.
His wife offers her take, and says that she doesn’t care what his motives are so long as he helps her husband. With that in mind, she signs the consent form.
After her second rejection by Young-oh, Jin-sung pays Suk-joo a visit to tell him of her job transfer to the Violent Crimes Division and requests a check-up to make sure everything is alright.
The air becomes strained when she brings up the regenerative research and its recent transition to commercialization. With the mood ruined, she quickly gets up to leave. He tells her that he’ll call her when he gets her test results back, making her pause.
She turns around to ask why thinking with your head causes pain in the heart instead, especially when she thinks of a certain someone.
The surgical team wheels the husband down the hall for the operation, but his wife blocks their path. Young-oh asks the couple if they want to do the surgery again, and the husband speaks up to overrule his wife’s interruption. The wife protests that she’s scared, and urges him to reconsider. He’s not having it, and tells Young-oh to proceed, because he’s going to make it through the surgery.
On the operating table, the husband asks Young-oh to be understanding of his wife’s behavior; neither of them have any other family members, so they need each other. However, it is precisely for that reason that he cannot give up on the surgery. He is determined to see his son and confirm that he will be strong enough to take care of his wife. He asks Young-oh to promise to do his best for their family.
The surgery goes well without any complications. Having successfully removed all the detected tumors, Young-oh relays the news to the wife. When he begins to explain in more technical language, the wife cuts him short and asks if that means he’s okay. Young-oh pauses and nods, but adds, “He is for now.”
Young-oh meets with the couple as they prepare for the husband’s discharge. They talk of their plans to go shopping for their baby, and Young-oh reminds them not to miss their follow-up appointment. The wife lingers behind to give Young-oh her sincerest gratitude, and Young-oh watches them leave with a worried look on his face.
Dr. Lee swings by to comment on Young-oh’s successful surgery, but Young-oh corrects him; the tumors not detected in the scans taken prior to surgery have already spread to the spinal nerves. Young-oh plans to switch to radiation therapy to address them.
When Dr. Lee asks why Young-oh allowed the patient to leave when he still needs care, his son replies:
“Doctors don’t save people’s lives, they only extend their lives. Arguing, laughing, talking, and eating with their loved ones. Those daily, meaningless things, people on average tend to find happiness in those things; a happiness that I have not yet felt… No, those are feelings I have never learned or experienced.”
Stirred by Young-oh’s words, Dr. Lee asks if the patient’s desperate desire to live was the reason he took on the surgery.
Alone in his office, Young-oh looks over the keepsake collection in his drawer. He remembers Jin-sung’s words in the elevator about wanting only to spend time with him, and connects them with the words of the wife who wanted the same with her husband. He muses over the similar language wistfully.
The couple’s shopping date is cut short, and they return to the hospital worse off than when they left. Young-oh rushes to the husband’s side, who gasps out an apology between labored breaths. He apologizes for pestering Young-oh into permitting their excursion against his advice.
The husband begins to fade, wanting only to be able to hold his child just once. Young-oh orders him to stop talking, and reminds him that he promised to help him meet his child. The husband chuckles weakly and says, “You say nice things in such a mean way, just like my wife.” Young-oh asks the husband to promise that he won’t give up.
Young-oh commences the radiation treatment. The wife accuses Young-oh of looking down on them because they don’t have parents. Despairingly, she says that she asked Young-oh for more time with her husband, but not while he’s in pain and barely alive.
Young-oh holds her by the shoulders and tells her that he promised her husband that he was going to do anything he could to give him time, but in order to do that, he needs her to also be strong—there isn’t a miracle treatment to prolong his life without pain.
Director Kang and Assistant Manager Chae meet with Young-bae to discuss Dr. Lee’s resistance to accepting the financial investment from Green Pharmacy. Young-bae promises that Dr. Lee will yield in a matter of time, but instead, Director Kang wants to know what Young-bae is using to blackmail Dr. Lee with.
Director Kang correctly guesses that it has something to do with Young-oh, but then asks if it has something to do with his birth. Assistant Manager Chae steps in to wisely say, “Secrets only have power if they remain secrets.” He asks Director Kang if he wants to satisfy his curiosity or make a deal, forcing Director Kang to back off.
Speaking of Dr. Lee, he gets the rundown from Suk-joo on the status of the first clinical trials for the regenerative treatment. Suk-joo expresses his faith that Dr. Lee will never relinquish the patent, but Dr. Lee responds evasively that their priority right now is to make sure the treatment is as successful as possible.
Once Dr. Lee leaves, Suk-joo asks Gi-ho to prepare an ECMO, which is basically a form of life support that imitates the natural functions of the heart and lungs in the event of cardiac arrest or lung failure. Understanding that the safety and success of these patients will determine the fate of their research, Suk-joo warns his colleague to prepare for the worst.
That night, Young-oh sits besides the husband to monitor his progress as his father observes from the outside. Dr. Lee asks for the patient’s status, and Nurse Jang informs him that the man has developed an infection, but Young-oh is attending to him personally and giving him meticulous care.
As fate would have it, the husband’s heart begins to fail the next morning, and Young-oh needs an ECMO to buy some time. Unfortunately, there are only three in the hospital, and Suk-joo has one of them.
Young-oh goes immediately to see his fellow surgeon, but Suk-joo denies the request. He needs the machine to be on standby should anything go wrong with his more important patients. Young-oh shoots back that while he’s waiting for the unknown, another patient is dying as they argue. Suk-joo doesn’t back down, stating that his patient’s lives are also on the line. Moreover, this isn’t just a vanity war for Suk-joo, the entire media is watching the progress of the regenerative cell treatment and the lives of his patients. If anything happens to them, then all their research will have been for naught.
Desperate, Young-oh bows his head to Suk-joo and begs for usage of the ECMO, but Suk-joo isn’t persuaded by the humbling gesture—he knows that Young-oh’s patient isn’t going to survive anyway. He refuses to relinquish the ECMO just to save a patient with such a small chance of survival.
Young-oh then reaches up and holds Suk-joo by the throat while he orders one of his surgical aides to transfer the ECMO. After safely securing the machine for himself, Young-oh sharply asks if Suk-joo still considers himself a good doctor after what he just said.
Having lost the machine, Suk-joo goes to tattle on Young-oh to Dr. Lee, stating that Young-oh is acting unlike himself and has become far too attached to his patients to make pragmatic decisions. Dr. Lee just smiles.
Dr. Lee meets with Young-bae again to tell him that he’s decided to accept his terms and work with Green Pharmacy. Young-bae replies that must mean he has chosen his son over his noble interests.
Elated, Dr. Lee says that his son is finally “becoming complete;” that he’s becoming closer to “a normal person,” and all his labor is finally bearing fruit.
Things go from bad to worse for Young-oh. He desperately tries to resuscitate the husband from cardiac arrest while one of the doctors implores him to call the wife. However, she has gone into labor. Young-oh doesn’t give up as the patient flatlines. But shockingly, the patient’s eyes then open, and he seems to be coherent.
The husband reaches a limp hand up to tell Young-oh to stop, but Young-oh persists, promising not to give up. The husband weakly begs him to stop once more, and only then does Young-oh finally give up and leave the room as the husband passes.
Young-oh staggers through the halls of the hospital as his father’s words flash through his mind, asking him from a time before if his goal was to keep a patient alive so long as they are breathing. Or from another time, when he asked if Young-oh understood why he opposed a “monster” like him becoming a doctor. He slumps down to the ground in the stairwell, looking dazed.
Meanwhile, back with Dr. Lee and Young-bae, instead of being pleased with Dr. Lee’s surrender, Young-bae is visibly annoyed. He tells Dr. Lee that once again he’s chosen to protect his self-interest, just as he did twenty-five years ago. Dr. Lee asks what he means, and Young-bae replies that the one who made Young-oh into a monster was Dr. Lee himself. He tells him that the surgery on Young-oh wasn’t actually a failure like Dr. Lee thought. OMG, what?
Young-bae says cryptically, “If there was anything that went wrong [with the surgery], it was me.” He doesn’t explain himself and instead leaves Dr. Lee with this thought: “Your surgery wasn’t a failure, but you created a monster after all.” Don’t just let him leave! He’s in a wheelchair for God’s sake.
Dr. Lee hurries over to see Min-jae and ask about Young-oh’s old CT scans, which she saw when she was at a smaller hospital where Dr. Lee used to work. He unleashes a flurry of questions, wanting to know where the records are, what they looked like, and whether the scans looked normal after the surgery.
However, Min-jae is too taken aback to answer, and Dr. Lee leaves. Once he is gone she realizes something and goes through her memories of her research on Young-oh, but we don’t find out what her realization is.
At the same time, Young-bae meets with Assistant Manager Chae to debrief him about his meeting with Dr. Lee. Young-bae says he previously thought that had medical practices been as advanced then as now, what happened to Dr. Lee would have never occurred. But he realizes now after meeting with Dr. Lee that he was wrong, because Dr. Lee stayed the same all these years.
“Since that day, everything that has happened to Young-oh cannot be attributed to medicine. It’s the human condition: ambition, selflessness, humiliation, and fear.” To that, Assistant Manager Chae wonders what will happen to Dr. Lee and Young-oh, but Young-bae brushes it off and says they got what they wanted—control of the regenerative cell research.
Devastated by the loss of his patient, Young-oh sits alone in his office brooding, which is where Min-jae finds him. He asks her if he’s a monster, because no matter how hard he tries, nothing changes. Guilt-ridden, she corrects him and says he isn’t a monster, but rather a victim of medical malpractice. Under the pretense of a perfect education, he endured years of discreet and persistent abuse at the hands of his father in order to maintain his reputation: “You’re his failure.”
Dumbfounded, he seeks out his father until he finally finds him at home, nursing a drink and staring at their wall of social cues. Young-oh tells his father that he has thought long and hard about what he would say when he finally found him, but came up empty. He begs his father to teach him the correct expression to make right now.
Young-oh: “You saved my life. You are my only family. You taught me everything about life. When I found out you were the true monster, and raised me to be a monster, what expression should I make? You never taught me how to deal with this kind of difficult emotion.”
Young-oh begins ripping down the sheets on the wall and declares, “I no longer want to live as your failure.”
COMMENTS
This was definitely Heo Jun-ho’s episode. His portrayal of Dr. Lee is so nuanced; even when he is furious there’s a kind of restraint, as if he is fighting against his own nature, his own ideals. Without Heo Jun-ho, the revelation of what Dr. Lee did to Young-oh would not be fraught with so many complexities. When Young-oh starting ripping down the papers from the wall, it felt liberating, but at the same time utterly devastating. Perhaps Min-jae is serving as a mouthpiece for the writer when she says that Dr. Lee was trying to hide Young-oh to protect his reputation, but because of Heo Jun-ho’s portrayal, I always felt like he was doing it to give his son a shot at a normal life. I think, based on the way Young-bae was describing Dr. Lee’s unchanging nature, both could be true.
Now it makes sense to me why the show was so evasive about Young-oh and his condition in the beginning. Although the characters acted like they knew exactly what was up with him, Young-oh often behaved in very contradictory ways. How terribly tragic that a man who’s driven by high morals and who always tries to do the right thing has been unknowingly and relentlessly psychologically abusing a child that he was committed to helping. In his arrogance, instead of accepting Young-oh for his perceived flaws and allowing him to grow naturally, he tried to mold him into the shape of a human being. All while withholding the one thing he truly needed: the love of a parent.
I’m absolutely not trying to defend Dr. Lee’s actions, but I hope that, like the abusive mother in Episode 10, underneath Dr. Lee’s behavior there is some kind of love. And those wounds inflicted in the past, despite a parent’s deepest intentions, can only begin to heal with relentless, unwavering love. Just tell him you love him! Come on! Please?
What I find disappointing is that Jin-sung’s professional life has basically dropped off a cliff ever since it stopped having any medical relevance. I get it, this is a medical drama, but would it kill anyone to show her kicking butt as an improved (and competent) detective? Is it too much to ask? With the episode cut down I guess it must be. It can’t be denied that Young-oh is the center of this show, but it bothers me that Jin-sung’s just been casually pulled into his orbit. Oh, well.
I stated before that in consideration for the show’s episode reduction perhaps the patient of the episode stuff could be cut down, but this episode proved just how wrong I was. It’s the lives of these patients that shape our story and characters, moving the pieces along and pushing our characters forward. The pain and suffering of these very vulnerable and desperate people reflects a bit of themselves into the hearts of our doctors. This show was advertised as a story of how Young-oh would find his humanity by falling in love, and while that has been true, it’s also the love his patients have for their loved ones that has just as much impact, or arguably more, on his understanding of the human heart. What could be more fitting than that?
There were a lot of great lines in this episode, but my favorite was when the husband said, “You say nice things in such a mean way.” I love how Young-oh’s sincerity reached him. We’ve seen a progression in the last few episodes of how Young-oh’s relationship with his patients is changing, and with the couple, we watched their desires become his. We witness him truly adopt their desperation to live, even exceeding theirs. A couple of episodes ago, Jin-sung mistakenly believed that Young-oh was starting to love his patients, he corrected her and said he was talking about her. But after this episode, I think he was the one who was mistaken.
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Tags: Beautiful Mind, Episode 12, featured, Jang Hyuk, Park Se-young, Park So-dam, Yoon Hyun-min
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1 Evi
July 29, 2016 at 8:22 PM
I thought Young Oh can't feel emotion but how come he can react to certain cases with anger and sadness?
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Bongsookie
July 30, 2016 at 2:45 AM
From my understanding, it's because YoungOh was misdiagnosed from the beginning. Dr. Lee thought that YO became a monster because of his surgery (he did know that the surgery was successful) so he treated YO like a monster - when in fact YO wasn't one. YO has been conditioned into thinking that he's a monster all his life. it comes back to the nurture vs nature question. YO's true nature is that he's normal just like everyone else, but because the way he was nurtured he became someone who believed he cannot feel emotions ie he ended believing he was born "monster". I feel sad YO to be honest :(
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Bongsookie
July 30, 2016 at 2:46 AM
I meant he did NOT* know that the surgery was successful
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prettysup
July 30, 2016 at 3:12 AM
Even if his frontal lobe was really injured, that just make him unable to empathise with others. But he is still able to feel emotions himself, I think.
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Bongsookie
July 30, 2016 at 4:57 AM
Ah that's very true. Even if his frontal lobe is damaged, he's just not able to empathise...that doesn't mean he can't feel emotions himself or react to those emotions. And It's been pointed out twice in the drama that he can empathise when he sees himself in the same situation as his patient (the little boy who got abused by his mother) or he directly feels himself (ie. patientthat died in this case).
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2 junny
July 29, 2016 at 8:22 PM
Thanks for the recap, murasakimi! This is such a heartbreaking episode, from the brush-off Young-oh gave Jin-sung, to the eventual revelation and realisation. Heo Jun-ho has done a marvellous job with Dr Lee, such that you couldn't have judged him too harshly and on a one-dimensional basis for what he's done. I do feel he loves Young-oh deep down, but has never been able to fully draw on it because of his own guilt about what happened to his biological son.
I too lament the disappearance of Jin-sung's detective life, but I'm hoping it will make a mini comeback in the last two episodes - maybe she and Chief Noh will finally do something about the shady research. I'd love it if they teamed up with Young-oh and Dad... damn, where are those extra two episodes when you need them? Sigh.
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CatoCat
July 30, 2016 at 5:54 AM
Dr. Lee enters Min Jae room and asks about Dr. Young Oh. Right there half second desperation Next half side Crying face Next half second a face anger. This is Actual Acting.
What a job Heo Jun Ho. The way Dr. Lee looks, The way Dr. Lee Speaks. Earlier scene noted by many the way Dr. Lee drank Coffee while watching Dr. Chae.
This episode made my heart uneasy. Officer Jin Sung is waiting for Re-Investigation of the episode and that i hope will start again in episode 14 2nd half?
This show deserves 20 episodes to fully satisfy the director + writer and audience.
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3 kalpana
July 29, 2016 at 8:25 PM
thanks for the recap
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4 prettysup
July 29, 2016 at 8:26 PM
Thanks murasakimi for the recap! This episode left so many unanswered questions! How did KMJ draw the conclusion that YO is a victim of malpractice? Why did his scan show an injury if his father's operation was a success? Can't wait for ep 13 to find out....
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5 bunny
July 29, 2016 at 8:40 PM
Thank you for the recap and comment, Murasakimi. I was looking forward for this this whole week! :)
The episode cut has eminent effect on us viewers. Beautiful Mind is such a gem with its story gently crafted and emotions (or lack thereof) showcased. With the episode cut, we cant help but being puzzled sometimes, or having things unfold less moothly, having few stories seem to be dropped off. It must have been hard for them too.
Beautiful Mind remains on my favorite drama list, despite of the episode cut. My heart always pounds whenever I saw the subbed version arrived, and each episode makes me cry and smile like a dork every single time - although I'm not the kind of viewer who would usually cry over a drama.
Beautiful Mind, FIGHT! Happy ending please? :) It's so fun to see Jin Sung and Young Oh together. It's like having our faith on human kind restored. plus, they're so cute together.
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6 prettysup
July 29, 2016 at 8:52 PM
I dont really mind JS taking a back seat in this episode. YO needs the time and space to figure out the truth about himself before he can proceed with his relationship with JS.
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7 Barbrey
July 29, 2016 at 9:10 PM
Thanks for the recap Murasakimi but I still don't understand what is going on with Young Oh. My understanding of his condition up to this episode was that Dr. Lee's operation was indeed successful (on repairing the problem that Young Oh shared with Dr. Lee's natural son) but while successfully repairing that problem, he had damaged Young Oh's frontal lobe in an area that governs empathy, leaving the boy without empathic function.
So was the man in the wheelchair saying that there was no malpractice after all? Or just reiterating what we already knew?
And why was Min Jae looking at those scans?
Now we're being told that Dr. Lee was abusing Young Oh. I didn't see evidence of that in scenes when the boy was young. All those empathy exercises are the same ones you would do with some autistic or asperger children.
Anyway, I'm confused, and I don't know if that's because they haven't explained the problem yet or if I am just misunderstanding the subtitles.
Can anyone clarify?
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deathbychocolate
July 29, 2016 at 9:25 PM
I think Young-oh was normal all along, there was no accidental damage on his frontal lobe after the surgery which is what the man on the wheelchair was trying to convey when he said that he was the one who made the mistake. If Young-oh brain functions was indeed normal, then he was abused by his father in the sense that upon growing up he was taught that there was something wrong with him, that he was different from others, he was singled out and made to read emotions of other people without feeling it because he was taught he's not capable of it. Young-oh was made to think that way, imagine what it can do to young child's mind. It's abuse in a mental form. It's kinda scary and tragic.
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loveprevails
July 30, 2016 at 1:05 AM
@deathbychocolate (for the 7.1 comment)
You hit the nail on the head. :)
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Adal
July 30, 2016 at 6:31 AM
@deathbychocolate
I agree with your analysis completely. There was that scene of a little boy drawing a picture of his father and himself, and thinking how happy he was that his new father who saved him, adopted him. So young, post surgery Young Oh was perfectly capable of feeling emotions, until his perfectionistic, adopted father bred his belief of having emotions out of him.
Ironically if Young Oh was raised by average parents, he would have been perfectly capable of leading a normal life. He was emotionally abused for most of his life.
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deathbychocolate
July 31, 2016 at 12:27 AM
My heart bleds for him everytime his father called him a monster. :(
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lolalarue
August 1, 2016 at 1:07 AM
I think that's what they're trying to say in the drama but I don't understand how the scans can show that to be true. They showed damage to the frontal lobe back then and now, right? So how does the other Doctor know the surgery worked but not the Dad or Min Jae?
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michykdrama
July 29, 2016 at 9:30 PM
I think you are right about the surgery bit, and my best guess is that wheelchair dr oh was possibly hiding the fact that he knew YO had emotions from Dr Lee, so that is why he said he was also responsible for YO becoming a monster. Because Dr Lee took Dr Oh's advice and brought up YO with the false assumption that he was a potential psychopath. Therefore Dr Lee inadvertently "nurtured" YO into an actual psychopath. It's the whole "nature vs nurture" argument of what shapes human behavior.
I have a much longer version on my blog if you like to check it out ?
But again, it's just my guesses, I may be wrong!
https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2016/07/29/beautiful-mind-sharing-my-thoughts-on-what-has-happened-so-far-from-a-medical-point-of-view/
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deathbychocolate
July 29, 2016 at 9:30 PM
Remember what he said when he was drawing that father and son figure post surgery? He said he was happy. It's an indication that he can definitely feel those emotions.
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prettysup
July 29, 2016 at 9:38 PM
Your questions are the same as what everyone else has at this point of time. They havent explained yet.
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Arawn
July 30, 2016 at 12:05 AM
I honestly think this is because show is... pretty poorly written. Heh. I've said this many times already. But yeah, still watching because I do enjoy it but sometimes I do wonder how good this could have actually been IF the writing and directing were good. But oh well.
When it comes to Young-oh problem, I am somewhat confused myself, too. It should be clear even to a blind mouse that Young-oh does indeed have feelings and very deep and profound feelings at that. And in any case, sociopaths/psychopaths are not people without feelings so even if Young-oh is/would be one, there would still be emotions. Sure, a person might not be able to emphatize with other people or to readily recognize emotions in others, but it does not mean he hasn't got them himself. In fact, making decisions would be impossible. There are rare cases of people who have such a severe brain damage that they cannot feel anymore* and there people cannot even decide which ice cream they want because such decisions require emotions.
So, it doesn't even matter whether Young-oh's frontal lobe is damaged or not. His upbringing was abusive no matter what. EVEN if he is a full blooded sociopath, telling a kid he's a monster, abnormal and instilling in him a profound sense of otherness and shame of himself, is abuse, plain and clear. And teaching a kid only to recognize emotions in other but not explaining the wider context, like what different emotions usually mean to people etc. is also extremely dangerous. That is a way to create an expert manipulator who just uses other people to his own means.
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Mariah
July 30, 2016 at 9:53 AM
The writing quality really suffers in comparison to the other recent show with these themes ... I Remember You. When you put them side-by-side, the way the kids are messed up is similar, by perception rather than by medicine, but I think the pacing and the way that the monster aspect is discussed is much better in IRY.
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Lilium
July 30, 2016 at 1:23 PM
To be fair I think, the monsters theme was primarily what I Remember You was about so they were able to extrapolate on that. But this show also contains other themes like patient care, medical ethics and prejudice against people with disabilities.
I still think that they are different show doing different things.
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Barbrey
July 31, 2016 at 1:51 AM
Thanks for everyone's answers. We will see what happens next week. I have a fairly good u derstanding of antisocial personality disorder, so it never made sense to me he was diagnosed with that in the first placebased on a brain lesion. Children get diagnosed with Conduct Disorder, not Antisocial Personality Disorder, because the brain changes as the child grows. Lesions can heal, or the brain compensates in other ways, like for that woman who would be in pain for the rest of her fe (poor thing!). But Dr Lee is a neurosurgeon. It beggers belief he doesnt know all this stuff.
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Arawn
July 31, 2016 at 12:16 PM
It's the writer of the show who doesn't know this stuff.
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8 michykdrama
July 29, 2016 at 9:17 PM
Thanks for the recaps murasakimi!
I enjoy reading the recaps because it brings me back to the feelings I had while watching the episode and makes me want to watch parts again!
This episode was definitely confusing but I'm hoping we get all the answers next week and it all ties up nicely despite the cut! ?
The writer is going strong with the medical jargon so Medicaps are up on my blog ?
I also added some thoughts separately on the medical stuff from the past few episodes and how it affected my guess for what is happening with Dr Lee and YO and his surgery/scan etc.
https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/beautiful-mind-episode-12-medicaps/
My thoughts for next week are conflicted- I really want to know what is going to happen ?, but that will also mean that it's coming to an end!! ?
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yunn
July 29, 2016 at 9:49 PM
sigh....2 eps wouldn't enough to finish the story.it would be so many open ending.hhhhh......just wish,that YO and JS relationship wouldn't be end by open ending too.......KBS,may your olympic program,be your nightmare.feel so great,that your UF be kicking by W.
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michykdrama
July 30, 2016 at 12:30 AM
Yeah I'm not watching UF but W is really great so I'm secretly (ok, not so secretly) pleased that KBS is getting their just desserts for cutting this show! Also, there is news that KBS is adjusting the start date for Moonlight drawn by clouds which I was looking forward to so I'm also a bit pissed. Anyway UF isn't doing badly, just that it's not a runaway hit like they said it would be.
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prettysup
July 30, 2016 at 3:18 AM
Yeah we need this show to have at least 20 episodes
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fayyyy
July 30, 2016 at 10:02 AM
I guess kbs had not had enough money from DOTS? Unlike YO feeling a lot of emotions for KBS, ha.There's still some weeks left till Moonlights air for god's sake.As the news is already out that olympics was not really the reason,it's outrageous that KBS decided to cut off the last two episodes.How much money did they need for just 2 episodes? It hurts to think that two less ep of this gem of the drama would be missed.Besides,can't get enough of Dr.Oh.Still a bit sad that we dint get enough of JS-YO this week.
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prettysup
July 30, 2016 at 5:31 PM
They wanted to cut 4 episodes initially, but writer-nim insisted that it is impossible, so in the end they settled for 2 episodes.
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kietrek
July 30, 2016 at 6:09 PM
@michykdrama, thanks for providing the medical information... Your comments are insightfully and thorough than my grumpy brother who does not have Time for my questions. He simply told me that the scans taken in the past and scans taken by MinJae should not be the same. Was he right? My bro is a doctor by the way
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9 prettysup
July 29, 2016 at 9:41 PM
Quoting this sentence by 40somethingahjumma from the soompi forum : "To me the greatest mystery regarding Beautiful Mind is not whether the frontal lobe was actually damaged or if there's some conspiracy against the Dr Lees but that this drama is so unloved in its native heartland."
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10 May
July 29, 2016 at 9:51 PM
Every episode tugs my heart :'( Still cant believe that theyre pushing through with the episode cut........ THIS EVEN HAS A BETTER PLOT THAN DESCENDANTS OF THE SUN :(
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michykdrama
July 30, 2016 at 12:16 AM
Haha. To me DOTS didn't exactly have a stellar plot. Song Joong Ki was the best part of it, and he made up for the lack of plot ?
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Sook
July 30, 2016 at 12:57 AM
Just as LYO said to nurse Jang " I can find 100 other nurse faster than you."
I will say "I can 100 dramas with better plot than Dots. "
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11 loveblossom
July 29, 2016 at 9:57 PM
I can't believe Young Oh's patient didn't survive.... I know the chance of surviving was low, but I really didn't expect him to die that fast. We just had the tragedy in the previous episode.
I'm so used to seeing the group of doctors gossiping like it's a thing they must do each day. I like that there are a few of them supporting Young Oh now though.
Ugh, the father & son relationship breaks my heart. It's sad that Dr. Lee tried so hard to teach Young Oh to be "normal" that he actually made things worse. That last scene was profound. “I no longer want to live as your failure.”
The lines in this show are awesome. “You say nice things in such a mean way.” stood out to me too!
It sucks that this show is ending next week. Not sure if it will end with satisfaction.
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Sook
July 30, 2016 at 12:10 AM
Who is KMJ to judge Papa Lee? Who is she to declare to LYO "You are his failure?". The biggest monster is this cold blooded bitch KMJ!!
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junny
July 30, 2016 at 6:02 AM
The gossipy doctors are a riot, and it's heartening to see how far they've come with regard to Young-oh. Only Drs Soh and Yoo are still somewhat sour, but the rest of them have warmed up to Young-oh in their own way.
But I still get a kick out of seeing their startled faces whenever Young-oh pops up out of nowhere to interrupt their gossip, hehe.
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stpauligurl
July 30, 2016 at 8:28 PM
If you look at the group of gossipy doctors, they are like the chorus in greek dramas. The background group of voices who provide the summary of the plot and keep us informed of what is going on. That is the only function I can figure them out to be.
I too love how Young-oh surprises them all the time. Slowly they are all coming to respect and admire his skill. Just like the rest of the staff of the hospital. Obviously with the exception of the upper echelon management and the research team.
This is such an excellent show. My hope is that they will lengthen the last two episodes like the writers did with Dear My Friends. The last two episodes were almost 90 minutes long each.
LOVE love love this show and am so sorry the length got cut short. But every time they lengthen a show (see LR and OHY) the plot drags and gets muddy. Maybe this will tighten up the story and allow us just to watch the best parts.
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12 Needaname
July 29, 2016 at 9:57 PM
We are in the same boat Barbrey. I am so confused too. What does Dr Oh mean? Is what MJ said true? Is she hiding something?
I feel so sad for YO. He's gone from a monster to a victim of malpractice to a failure. He was so troubled when he asked MJ if he really is a monster as she knows him best. And all she can say is no, you're a victim of malpractice! That is why MJ can never love him! She either sees him as a monster or victim! How about seeing the man, human being that he is...Ah, that's where JS comes in. She just wants time with HIM. As he is.
No wonder YO is such a mess! JS needs to bring him back to her hometown to be among normal people!
Even though JS wasn't featured much in this episode, you could tell she was still the driving force behind YO. He took notice of the young people when the wife said she wanted more time. He was trying to give that time to the couple. As JS wants to spend more time with him. I felt he did for her, as he couldn't do it with her, he made a promise and it was so devastating when the husband died. It was more than just his death, it was all of YOs newfound convictions/beliefs shattered as well. I really want to know what happens next. This drama is so emotionally draining and stimulating at the same time. It's been a while I have been so emotionally invested in a drama! I am so sad it's ending next week. I am afraid it's going to take a long time to recuperate.
Thank you so much for the recap! It's such a beautiful drama! Whatever happens on the next two episodes, I will treasure this drama and its characters.
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13 Beverly A
July 29, 2016 at 10:08 PM
This drama is just so much better than Descendants of the Sun but I guess we'll never know its full potential. Sad.
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14 Iluvjis
July 29, 2016 at 11:02 PM
Director's cut DVD! Director's cut DVD! Or a full version release on KBS World's YouTube channel. That's what we need so we can enjoy the gradual unfolding of the story as originally planned not this compressed splice & dice version.
On another note, my favourite line in this episode was when YO more or less told the young wife to stop whining/being childish 'cos it wasn't helping matters & YO had no time for such nonsense. Can't remember his exact words but while watching I was thinking to myself "Preach it, YO!"
JS had nothing much to do this episode & that thumb drive on the clinical trials remains forgotten/abandoned (no copies?) - a victim of the episode cuts. Even if the data on the thumb drive was not enough to prosecute the hospital, it could've still caused quite a stir if released to the public. It was important enough for an (attempted) murder of the doctor in the earlier episodes.
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lolalarue
July 29, 2016 at 11:11 PM
Yes, I was so happy when he just shut down that whiny stuff. Your husband might find it cute but no one else does! Hahahaha. Young Oh you were on point my friend.
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15 lolalarue
July 29, 2016 at 11:09 PM
The magic of the surgery at that hospital is that after having your spine operated on you can leave the hospital the next day! Those pain meds must be amazeballs. Or perhaps the regenerative medicine is being secretly given out to people? Ah, who cares, this always happens in kdramas. Hand waving that completely.
Oh how much do I love that Lee Young Oh is being slowly changed by the people around him. It seems that Jin Sung was the key to open him up but the other doctors, nurses and patients around him are bringing him back to life. It's wonderful.
Though I understood the necessity this ep, I still felt the absence of Jin Sung. Two minutes screen time is just not enough!
Can't wait for next week but like everyone else it's not going to be enough.
Couldn't we have had two 2 hour episodes? That could've worked and not messed with the Olympics coverage.
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SuziQ
July 29, 2016 at 11:35 PM
I couldn't understand that part too.
Why did the whiny wife asking her husband to go shopping so soon after surgery? That sped up his death...
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prettysup
July 30, 2016 at 3:11 AM
I asked the same question on michykdrama's medicap blog, you may want to check out her reply here:
https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/beautiful-mind-episode-12-medicaps/
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nicnac
July 30, 2016 at 3:10 PM
This! I have been wondering that myself. All these other shows sneak in an extra 15 minutes here or 30 minutes there. Why could KBS at lease do that much.
As soon as I saw Evil Prof. Ex-Coworker in the earliest episodes, I knew something was up. That actor is usually portrays a villain and it turns out to be true in this story, too. I would not at all be surprised if he purposely misrepresented LYO's condition as some sort of sick revenge. But that's as melodramatic as some of the scenarios the Gab Five have come up with. They truly trip me out, though.
As far as his relationships with the other people in the hospital, namely Dr. Yang and nurse Jang, I think they had always taking a liking to him, to a degree. Nurse Jang surely had a crush on him when he first arrived at the hospital, and even thought Min Jae was a bit of a B for doing what she did to Young-Oh. Dr. Yang consistently hiding behind YO when something was popping off. Even seeking Young Oh out when his middle school friend had the allergic reaction(at least it seemed to me like he sought him out)
Clearly Chairman Kang has been watching Kdrama... why a did the secret that would put the Elder Dr. Lee in check have to be a birth secret?I actually laughed out loud when he asked that.
I wonder if Jin Sung's question to Dr. Hyun wasn't a veiled heads up. A, "I want to make sure I can fully pursue this career so that I can bring justice to the families that got plowed in the name of medicine." so to speak. That would be neat if that were the case, but likely not. I think we did get to see some of her detecting skills though. More often than not a detective's work is more along the lines of what she's been doing than karate choppin' bad guys. Again, could just be me. Since this story is about Lee Young Oh and his journey of self discovery I don't mind that we didn't see a lot of JS this ep. I didn't like it, but I could understand it.
If I can get a moment of true catharsis, and I mean ugly cry catharsis, with YO and JS I'll be ok with how this show ends. Shallow? Absolutely, and I'm not sorry. JS should at least have the chance to reciprocate what YO did for after SJ so deeply disappointed her. Plus, hasn't the underlying theme been tears?
The only irksome dropped plot for me was the whole reason he was being drugged. If they can manage to explain that, that will be a bonus.
Otherwise, Jang Hyuk has been doing the damn thang and I really have enjoyed Park So-Dam. Even though the wait for her availability cost the show two episodes, the chemistry was worth it.It should've been 20 eps anyway but that's moot at this point.
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stpauligurl
July 30, 2016 at 8:31 PM
Agree +10000000!
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loveycat
July 31, 2016 at 11:18 PM
Why i got a feeling that Jin Sung's sickness will be back. Remember she is a patient for years in her younger age. In this episode suddenly she take a check up and Suk joo will get the test result. The underlying theme for Young Oh is tears, he felt not normal before he can cry, and then Jin Sung talk about time she want spend with him.
Why all of this like a premonition for us that something will happen to Jin Sung??
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16 niyati
July 29, 2016 at 11:36 PM
Holy shit show! The biggest medical mystery of our age is going to be the collective insanity of the doctors in the hospital. How in hell has Dr lee never seen the pre and post op MRIs of his son? Who performs neurosurgery without taking a good look at the brain scans! How did you dispense post op treatment if you never saw the scans? Even if he was told by someone he trusted that he screwed up, humans have this instinctive disbelief towards problems that compels them to check fir themselves. How can these people be so smart and so stupid at the same time?
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TM
July 30, 2016 at 2:54 AM
That's also something I'm curious about. How could dr Lee just believe he did malpractice without checking first. And on what basis did wheelchair dr say that Young Oh is a victim of malpractice
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red
July 31, 2016 at 12:35 AM
maybe because of what he is going thorugh at that time,,his true son died and he was not there during the final hour, his wife angry with him and left him,,maybe this kind of thing clouded even the smartest of man..just maybe..
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prettysup
July 31, 2016 at 5:00 AM
Yeah I also think that he may be emotionally tormented at that point of time to think properly.
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niyati
July 31, 2016 at 10:47 PM
Sure.. Agreed except: He adopted the kid, and his post-op care would have been in his hands at some point. Maybe he was too grief stricken initially. For a few months, maybe even for a few years. But the child would need regular followups and scans, to monitor his progress, especially in the initial years. Say he didn't do that himself, say he asked someone else to do it, but that someone else would still get back-up scans and would be sure to mention any discrepancies to Dr. Lee.
And more importantly, His trauma excuse is legitimate only for a limited time. The initial surgery happened when Young Oh was around 10, He is now close to 30. Not looking at your kid's scans for 20 odd years due to trauma is stretching things more than the pond in Bring it on Ghost!
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17 icy
July 30, 2016 at 12:34 AM
Here's episode 13 preview...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z47odrhKGIU
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yunn
July 30, 2016 at 12:57 AM
thanx,mmuahh...... but look like, [SPOILER FROM PREVIEWS] it's too hearth breaking.
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lolalarue
July 30, 2016 at 1:29 AM
Yeah, I definitely won't have that, but I have to say if it gets her on screen I'll be glad for a medical scare for Jin Sung.
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mary
July 30, 2016 at 2:20 AM
Eeeeeeeeeeee! Don't describe the episode previews!
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dramaspresso
July 30, 2016 at 7:32 AM
I think we all kind of knew it was coming though, girl wasn't given heart troubles for no reason.
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A. Schimidt
July 30, 2016 at 12:39 PM
About this preview and one of my commets here on dramabeans that people didn't believe me.
I TOLD YOU GUYS.
She wouldn't have a heart desease for nothing.
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loveycat
July 31, 2016 at 11:23 PM
oo my..., I just comment a minute ago
15.2.2 loveycat July 31st, 2016 at 11:18 PM
"Why i got a feeling that Jin Sung’s sickness will be back. Remember she is a patient for years in her younger age. In this episode suddenly she take a check up and Suk joo will get the test result. The underlying theme for Young Oh is tears, he felt not normal before he can cry, and then Jin Sung talk about time she want spend with him.
Why all of this like a premonition for us that something will happen to Jin Sung??"
And then i see the preview...
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18 Julia
July 30, 2016 at 2:53 AM
I have a husband with Asperger's syndrome and watching LYO social life in this drama makes me shed tears. I know Asperger's and pseudopsycopath is COMPLETELY different, but the loneliness they depict is true. LYO scene trying to chime in between doctors' gossip time is not necessarily funny, I can imagine how desperate he is to have conversation with others (cried). JinSung, dr.Yang and nurse Jang had their share of misunderstandings, but despite that they still try to approach LYO with different perspective and it MUST touched him big time (I cried again). These people gave hope to him for a chance at least living like normal people :') Hang in there Jin Sung! Facing with LYO rejection is nothing! There will be more and worse to deal, but there are also far moreeeee beautiful things ahead.
*ahjumma mode*
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Yuki
July 30, 2016 at 5:03 AM
As someone gifted myself I know very well about isolation: feeling the same and different at the same time, seeking contact but seeing how the others are annoyed or simply can't handle the ways I'm different. It can be discouraging thinking that only hiding well your true self you can gain acceptance and stir true love in the hearts of others. I cried a bit reading your comment, your husband is lucky to have met someone like you. :)
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Julia
July 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM
Dear, you did your best to survive, and it's human :)
There will always be a lot of people who see us one-sidedly, and only a few who goes beyond.
On the other side, I think I am the one who is lucky to have met a gifted person, just like you.
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Yuki
July 31, 2016 at 4:16 AM
You are very kind :) It's so good to see that there are people able to look deeper in the hearts of those who look and behave differently and enjoy being together. Hope you and your husband find lots of happiness, I will keep trying myself. :D
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19 nAEE
July 30, 2016 at 3:21 AM
Heo Jun Ho's acting is freaking good! The way he portrays Director Lee Gun Myung is like you want to love him & hate him but then you just want the relationship to work between father and son. And you just want to love him again T_T ..
He's a gem! Where have you been for all this years ahjusshi?!
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junny
July 30, 2016 at 6:06 AM
He seems to have done more films than dramas - hadn't touched a drama since 2007's Lobbyist, and if I remember right, he joined Beautiful Mind to reunite with Jang Hyuk. They'd starred in Volcano High way back in 2001.
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prettysup
July 30, 2016 at 6:29 AM
He does theater works also.
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PakalanaPikake
July 30, 2016 at 3:09 PM
Agreed -- the nuances he brings to the role are wonderful. I think that he is every bit as misunderstood as his son.
I noticed that he has a way of "shrugging" his scalp... but not until after I'd seen LYO do it repeatedly. The son is mimicking the father's mannerism! Very cool! (It reminds me of visiting my in-laws in a distant part of the country for the first time for about a week, and suddenly realizing where some of my hubby's mannerisms came from. It was uncanny, especially since the family resemblance between him and his dad was so strong...)
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20 sorrynotsorry
July 30, 2016 at 4:24 AM
I've enjoyed this show, especially since around episode 6, but it jumped the shark with it's resolution of how our good doctor got to be the way he is. I think there is a limit to the nurture of nature and nurture, and so to me this pushed the limits of what I can believe.
In the early episode, the father had his son seen by an "expert" who confirmed that the son wouldn't be able to emote. And I never got the feeling ever that the father was doing what he did to avoid malpractice. It was because of his own son and being horrified by thinking he'd made a mistake and wanting to make everything ok. I don't know a doctor that wouldn't have reviewed everything himself, including x-rays to confirm things and yet we are lead to believe he just casually believes what the other guy says.
Also, I don't think it's possible to tamp down emotions to the level that was done on this show for such a long period of time. So for me I am in this for the completion of the story, feeling a little let down. I guess I should have guessed where it was going because it was originally called Frankenstein so that was a clue.
There has been little of PSD in the last two episodes, and I understand why but hopefully we'll see her back. The hospital politics has been boring and a waste of a 2nd male lead. It's like it took the writer a certain # of episodes to get that we just want to see the good doc and how he interacts with everyone around him. The father and son dynamic has been interesting, even if I can't buy the resolution. Also like that the ex-fiancee wasn't a meanie like we thought (well not so much anyway).
Even though I have my issues with this episode, I'm still looking forward to seeing how everything finishes up.
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junny
July 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM
My guess is that medical science was not as advanced back then - it's been almost 30 years since that surgery - and even the experts Dad may have worked with then would probably not have as much of a grasp on the disorder as we do now, so essentially he was grasping at straws. Even 30 years on, while there are many researchers who argue that psychopathy overlaps with, but is distinguishable from ASPD, you'll probably also get researchers who argue otherwise.
As for the social conditioning, I think it is possible - there are examples in reverse of individuals being influenced to commit acts of terror and brutality. Perhaps that was not an apt analogy, but the human mind is complex, and I do not rule out the power of suggestion (in this case, framed as possible abuse).
I don't deny that the writing isn't perfect and there are flaws, and maybe other dramas have more deftly handled these sorts of topics, but I do think it's still doing an admirable job making me think about these issues and the lens through which I view them.
I think if we had the full 16-episode run, some issues would have been slightly better fleshed out.
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21 JanuaryBlues
July 30, 2016 at 5:21 AM
Poor YO. I dont think even supposedly normal doctor would go thru all that much trouble for their patient. He is too hard on himself. Even Normal people have trouble relating to their pwn and others emotions.
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22 Adal
July 30, 2016 at 6:44 AM
I feel the effects of cutting down the episodes quite keenly in this episode. After the hiccups of the first four episodes, the pace was going along nicely but now everything feels so rushed including Young Oh's discovery of his abuse by his father to cover up his medical malpractice.
I do believe Dr. Lee cares deeply for Young Oh and wants him to succeed and be happy, because he too, looked entirely devastated when he realized what he had done to Young Oh. I can't help thinking that if Dr. Lee's wife hadn't left him and stayed to raise Young Oh, then she would have soften Dr Lee's edges and provided some much needed emotional support and stability for the boy. That is, if she doesn't abuse him herself in her anger, pain and resentment that her own son died and she's raising a stranger's child.
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Adal
July 30, 2016 at 7:11 AM
I'm also a little upset at how little screen time Park So Dam had this episode. I hope she isn't being punished inadvertently for the low ratings.
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yunn
July 30, 2016 at 8:12 AM
Park So Dam acting is mature.every cast acting is great,is better 100 time,than doctor.it's not fair if they want to blame PSD.
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Lilium
July 30, 2016 at 1:11 PM
I doubt that they've singled her out for anything.
I imagine it's just that the storyline doesn't call for her being in this episode much.
Undoubtedly it's the episodes cut that's contributed to her presence being diminished here.
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23 Islander north
July 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM
Who is actor playing dying husband?
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Sharon
July 30, 2016 at 7:41 PM
I believe the actor's name is Lee Jae-Woo. He was the friend with the same name that died early in a That Winter the Wind Blows. He was the real brother of the blind girl. He was also in Padam Padam as the other veterinarian that liked the main female lead.
I was wondering if the actress that plays nurse Jung is really pregnant. I think she's a great actress, I really wish she'd get larger parts. She was wonderful in Birth of a Beauty.
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Islander north
August 1, 2016 at 8:06 AM
I thought it was Lee Jae Woo, I remember him from Neighborhood Hero, but Asianwiki doesn't give him credit for this drama. I was going to say so in my post but this website has to be refreshed so often it was my 5th time typing post!
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24 bips99
July 30, 2016 at 9:32 AM
Whoa! I did not see this coming!
Mental abuse is terrifying. And I think its completely possible to turn someone's emotions "off" or at least condition them to such a point that they do not recognise emotions at all. I think physical abuse incites more reactions because there is visible proof of it happening. Mental abuse though invisible is far more crippling
... Obviously the effect of "cut" is being felt. From the ludicrous idea that the dad did not check the scans themselves to actually not lingering on YO's reaction to this discovery and instead jumping straight to confrontation - Damn you KBS!
Fabulous fabulous acting from HJH. i'll miss you show
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fayyyy
July 30, 2016 at 10:16 AM
Damn,I feel sad in this thread.
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PakalanaPikake
July 30, 2016 at 4:27 PM
The Swiss psychiatrist Alice Miller addressed the very topic of "poisonous pedagogy" in a number of landmark works with titles that say it all: "The Drama of the Gifted Child," "For Your Own Good," and "Thou Shalt Not Be Aware," among others. The first book examines the inhumane child-rearing practices historically used (mainly in the West, IIRC) to exert control over children that amounted to what she called "soul murder." It is horrifying, especially considering that these practices were inflicted on "normal" children in the name of creating obedient, law-abiding citizens. Some of the case histories she presents are ripped from the headlines and deeply unsettling.
Diane Connors: The Roots of Violence: Interview with Alice Miller, in: OMNI Magazine, March 1987.
http://www.naturalchild.org/alice_miller/roots_violence.html
Considered against such a real-life backdrop, LYO's upbringing is indeed abusive...
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25 Minaminami
July 30, 2016 at 10:07 AM
Woah! This ep blew my mind. I just cannot brain it. Lookin forward to see how's everything will unfold. Indeed YO is learning to connect his brain with his heart, poor puppy havin such a conflicting situations where he feels sad when the patient died but unable to truly express it with tears and also when he felt betrayed by his father. He just need love and support by people around him to feel these emotions.they can't be learned individually like papa Lee did. 2 more eps and I can't wait but sad at same time.not ready to say goodbye
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prettysup
July 30, 2016 at 5:36 PM
Same here, definitely be withdrawal symptoms after next week.
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26 carpetfibers
July 30, 2016 at 11:27 AM
Beautiful Mind has certainly been my favorite drama to come out this summer. As YO's condition has been slowly revealed, it's made me think how, more generally, we often trick ourselves out of having certain emotions because we've been led to believe they should manifest in a certain way.
This is what success is.
This is what happiness is.
This is what suffering is.
And when we feel that success or happiness or suffering, but it does not mesh with what we've been told it looks like or should feel like, we quash the feeling and move forward. The process leaves you feeling lonely and isolated, and, perhaps, even worse still, unable to actually capture and experience the emotion for what it is.
When I think back to when I was younger, I was surrounded with happiness, but because it was not what I believe happiness should look like, I missed those opportunities for joy. Probably the greatest thing getting older has given me is the realization that contentment is happiness. By removing expectations and definitions on emotions, I'm given so much more freedom to feel and experience properly.
Poor YO from the very beginning was told that the things that he felt were not real, not genuine, and that only by mirroring the pictures on the wall could he hope to even pretend at being 'normal'. I kept hoping, throughout the show, that this would not be the case, just because of how horrible it is.
All the suffering YO must have felt, and even then, to have been denied the truth of even that feeling. Ugh. There's just no redeeming Dr. Lee for me from this, regardless of the actor's quality.
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Lilium
July 30, 2016 at 1:25 PM
+100
Very well said.
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junny
July 30, 2016 at 2:04 PM
Beautifully put. Although I'm still inclined to cut Dad a bit of slack, it's truly been horrible for Young-oh.
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PakalanaPikake
July 30, 2016 at 5:29 PM
I'm inclined to cut Dr. Lee a little slack. My sense is that he did the best he could to train his son to live as normally as possible, based on information from his colleague -- although evil Dr. Oh's assessment is smelling more and more to high heavens. If there's any malpractice here, it seems HE is the one who committed it -- or at least was negligent in not following up once he found out he was wrong. I've been suspecting he had a serious case of professional jealousy going.
As for Dr. Lee's tutoring and parenting, he's done the wrong things for the right reason... And I get the impression that he himself had a pretty arid childhood. If LYO was shorted in the parental love department, I'm willing to bet that it's because Dad could not give his son what he had not received himself. Emotional deprivation, the gift that keeps on not giving. (See 24.2 above.)
I'll be watching closely to see how Dr. Lee responds to LYO's plea for help in dealing with his emotions. I was creeped out by his statement that he no longer wants to live as his father's failure. So he wants to live as Dad's success? Or he no longer wants to live? I'm not sure how to parse his statement.
One more thing: I was royally peeved when Min-Jae told LYO that he was his father's failure. "Failure" is a judgement, not a person... Dr. Kim, you deserve the Albert Schweitzer Award for Compassionate Bedside Manner... Not!
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junny
July 30, 2016 at 5:42 PM
Yes, that's what I feel about Dad as well. And I'm reminded that Dad did have the intention of protecting Young-oh, to the extent of giving away his life's work to his frenemy.
I hope Young-oh's declaration at the end means he wants to break free of Dad. You know how Dad tried to restrain Young-oh in episode 2 by placing his hand on Young-oh's shoulder, as a sign of authority and control? It creeps me out, the underlying menace in that simple gesture.
As for Min-jae, eh, she's so irrelevant at this point. All she does is be the harbinger of doom - I really wanted to bitchslap her when she took it upon herself to tell Young-oh. I don't buy her half-baked apology either. Where does she get off feeling so entitled to wreck his life again?
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michykdrama
July 30, 2016 at 5:01 PM
I've said this elsewhere before but I'm going to play the devils advocate here and say that I actually empathize with Dr Lee. Not that I condone his actions towards YO, not at all. But to me, context and motivations are important as well, not just the outcome. That's why manslaughter and murder are considered very different in the eyes of the law, yes?
Because as viewers we have had the privilege of seeing into YO's thoughts and mind, we empathize greatly with him and know that he has been victimized and his motivations are pure. (That and Jang Hyuk's awesome performance). So it's easy to forget that someone labelled YO as a potential psychopath when he was young and he did have a brain injury to substantiate the claim. It's very easy in hindsight to blame Dr Lee for not recognizing this as a lie, now that we know that's it's not true. But at the time, Dr Lee was emotionally unstable himself- had just lost his son, wife left, blamed for malpractice, and now he is told he is responsible for "creating" and condemning a child to life as a monster. People can say he did it to hide his "failure" but he did adopt YO and introduce him to the world as his own son. And to me, he did do what he thought was best at the time, with the knowledge he had, to try and prevent him from becoming a "psychopath".
Its very hard being a parent. It's very hard to love a child that your own flesh and blood. What more one who is a daily reminder of your own lost son and failures in life?
So when people say Dr Lee is unforgivable, I feel quite sad for him because I ask myself: Will my son next time understand why I made difficult decisions or hate me for what things I hoped for him to achieve?
And I have to say again I love love love this show because even the "bad guys" are really just shades of grey.
Just wanted to get that out, even if no one sees this. An alternative point of view. ?
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PakalanaPikake
July 30, 2016 at 7:36 PM
@Michykdrama,
You've been read...
As was the case with OH HAE YOUNG AGAIN, this drama is populated with characters who are fallible, flawed, and pretty realistic.
I'm glad you pointed out the fact that the audience is privy to information about LYO that is unbeknownst to Dr. Lee -- and LYO himself.
As a working single parent, Dr. Lee had his hands full. In my book, he gave it his best shot. Was it good enough? No.
Is LYO entitled to be angry as hell? IMHO, yes, he is... and the healthiest response for him would be to appropriately express that anger, and any other feelings, without hurting himself or anyone else... preferably in the presence of an attentive, compassionate witness. The last thing he needs is someone telling him what to feel...
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PakalanaPikake
July 30, 2016 at 9:03 PM
@murasakimi,
Many thanks for your recap... It really helps with keeping track of LYO's emotional weather.
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carpetfibers
July 30, 2016 at 9:11 PM
It goes to show that the actors are doing wonders to re-interpret the show's writing. I originally thought that Dr. Lee's motivations were kindly meant, exactly in line with what you wrote Michy, but the show continues to put forward dialogue and interactions that go counter to Heo Jun-ho's portrayal of Dr. Lee. Do I want to think Dr. Lee actually loves and cares for LJO as a parent because HJH is giving such a nuanced performance, or because the writing is actually suggesting this?
I'm leaning toward the former, if only because of the numerous instances in which, almost strangely considering HJH's portrayal, Dr. Lee calls LYO a monster and almost glories in seeing him crumble from the accusation.
I think, had the writing been tighter, they might have gone with the nuanced approach HJH is providing, than the straight-up 'Bad Parent is Bad Parent' standard kdrama trope.
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junny
July 31, 2016 at 4:53 AM
Yes, that's what I find difficult to reconcile. That confrontation in episode 6 is especially chilling, and I wonder if Dad had convinced himself, despite his best intentions, that Young-oh was a monster soon after he declared an interest in medicine. And then over the years that he kept tabs on Young-oh, Dad just somehow reinforced his belief without really giving Young-oh a chance to prove otherwise - or when Young-oh tried, it just had the opposite effect.
Yet, he did seem worried when Young-oh disappeared from Hyunsung and had people looking for him... or was that just another exercise in control? I think it was only from episode 10 that Dad actually started realising he had not, in fact, done his best for Young-oh.
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michykdrama
July 31, 2016 at 6:33 AM
I know what you mean about the writing- definitely could have been better, tighter, and I never could understand why the writers don't finish the script BEFORE they start filming- to me who is super OCD it boggled my mind. But now that I see the network companies just decide to cut episodes willy-nilly, i can understand a bit better why the writers don't bother to have every thing set in stone- because it can change so suddenly!
I am holding out hope that the writer will pleasantly surprise me next week, because I think Jang Hyuk and Heo Jun Ho deserve at least that much.
Fingers crossed!
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27 meahri
July 30, 2016 at 11:48 AM
My comments are going to sound like we're talking about a real life person, but I'm sure that can be attributed to how amazing Jang Hyuk has been in this role and the extent to which he had brought Young-oh to life.
I can truly empathize the devastation Young-oh feels and not being able to feel like the rest of us. I remember when my father-in-law was suffering from throat cancer and when they had to surgically remove his voice-box...I remember the utter devastation of knowing he would no longer speak, and feeling so very, very badly that it would be difficult for him to express himself. I cried like a baby knowing I would never hear his voice again.
I know there's a difference in the situation -- my father-in-law at least had been able to speak prior to the surgery, whereas Young-oh never had the ability to feel. BUT...Young-oh, though out his life, has been reminded of that which he doesn't have, which I think is just as painful. And to be reminded constantly, every time he is a witness to the emotion-charged moments played out by his patients and their loved ones.
I find it extremely interesting that there is no question that Young-oh feels this loss. It's very evident in his actions and comments. The only difference in he and everyone else around him, is in the way that he expresses himself.
I'm looking forward to when Young-oh seeks the company of Jin-sung again, because I think he desperately needs a hug. :-( I think I need one too.
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28 August
July 30, 2016 at 4:11 PM
Thanks for the recap Murasakimi but I have to disagree with you in regards to seeing more of Jin-Sung's
professional life as a detective (competent or not). I don't want to nor care to see more screen time focused on and devoted to Jin-Sung. The first few episodes showcasing her "at work" were traumatizing enough. Personally, I enjoy a Beautiful Mind way more when the narrative focuses mostly on Young-Oh, whether in flashback scenes enlightening us about his past and youth, him interacting with patients and Nurse Jang, the dynamic between him Dr. Lee, Suk-joo, Min-Jae, Director Kang, and the rest of the hosipital staff.
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gerry13
July 30, 2016 at 8:03 PM
Same here. So much time wasted watching jinsung and the bottle cap, jinsung having a crush and what about arresting Dr Lee twice and giving away evidence?
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junny
July 31, 2016 at 5:31 AM
Rather have Jin-sung than Min-jae, tbh.
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29 michykdrama
July 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM
Also, to Pakalanapikake:
Regarding your question previously on tears and crying:
There is the medical reason for tears- to lubricate the eye, protect the surface from damage etc. Then there is the emotional side of tears- i.e. crying. So yes, sometimes tearing is for a medical reason, eg when you get some dirt into your eye or like when you cut onions. No emotions involved but still lots of tears. Then of course there is the crying which is definitely linked to emotions. So I suppose actors probably can immerse themselves in character to evoke real emotions to trigger crying as opposed to just "tearing".
I found this very interesting link of psychology of crying. You should check it out.
Sorry my reply is so delayed! I didn't see your comment at first.
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2014/02/cry.aspx
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PakalanaPikake
July 30, 2016 at 7:43 PM
@Michykdrama,
Thank you so much! And not to worry... I know you are busy with real life and an offspring. ;-)
I'm keeling over and need to hit the hay now. Took a quick peek at the article, and will dig into it after a good night's sleep.
Thanks again for your Medicaps(TM) and Kdrama Medical Reference Desk! ;-)
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PakalanaPikake
July 31, 2016 at 4:07 AM
@Michykdrama,
Patients with Sjogren's syndrome, for example, have great difficulty producing tears. Nienke van Leeuwen, a PhD candidate in health psychology at Utrecht University in the Netherlands, has found that 22 percent of patients with the syndrome had "significantly more difficulty" identifying their own feelings than control participants did (Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology, 2012).
This caught my eye in the link you sent. Interesting. It reminds me of reading that botulinum toxin-paralyzed facial nerves (or was it the muscles themselves?) prevent the patient from experiencing the emotion(s) that is expressed with the associated muscles, if I understood that correctly. I'll pass on the poison... and keep my laugh lines, thank you very much...
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michykdrama
July 31, 2016 at 6:42 AM
Glad you found it interesting! I must admit Ive never thought about such things before this... As Ive told some people here Im really more a cold hard facts kind of girl so psychology is something I find to be fascinating but not something I can deal with on a daily basis.
Feel free to ask anything anytime, but if I don't reply you can drop me a message on my blog because sometimes I may miss messages if I don't go back and read the post again. :)
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30 midflower
July 30, 2016 at 8:58 PM
Omg I loved the last 2 paragraphs of this recap. Loved them! I also expected the patient stories to fall away, but they are indeed very important and critical to this story.
"You say nice things in such a mean way." :')
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31 yunn
August 1, 2016 at 8:18 AM
watch the raw of eps 13 at dramacoala.and it make cry enough......uhhhhh soo touching...even i don't understand what they said.
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Bongsookie
August 1, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Right? Best episode so far but I might need michykdrama's medicaps again for this episode. I mean that ending in episode 13...is that even possible?? I don't want to spoil anyone here but wow I didn't know that. For one, it will be hard (I'm assuming you go through various protocols), and another thing is well...I'll ask you in the next recap. But wow...best episode for me and I'm only delurking nowadays to comment. I've always been lurking here :P
How much to I wish this was a 20-episode drama. It has more than enough material for 20 episodes let alone 16. 16 would have been perfect! Why oh why do you have to cut this KBS?! :'(
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yunn
August 2, 2016 at 1:19 AM
Kbs has stop their heart to hear our wish,even with the petition issue,kbs just care about rating and maybe saving money (who know?).I wish,there will be another Jang Hyuk and Park So Dam,drama again (as couple).
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Bongsookie
August 2, 2016 at 1:34 AM
I've heard that the production team have heard/seen our petition last time I read on Soompi. Although they can't do anything about the episode cut they've promised to end it well for us fans so they're doing the best they can. I have high hopes that we won't be disappointed but I am bracing myself for an open ended ending. I think it's likely to end open ended like I Remember You did as well. In that case, I'll be hunting down some analysis to make sense of it and appreciate the ending :)
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michykdrama
August 2, 2016 at 3:52 AM
Saw comment number jump so I came to snoop and saw your comment ?
I've been hard at work so the Medicaps for episode 13 are up. I'm updating them with some other info I missed out but you can check them out if you like. It should be fully updated in a few hours (need to put kid to sleep first ?)
Needless to say there are SPOILERS galore so please don't click if you haven't watched yet.
https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2016/08/02/beautiful-mind-episode-13-medicaps/
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Bongsookie
August 2, 2016 at 5:23 AM
Whoops accidentally replied under comment 32.1.2.1 below. Thanks @Michykdrama and don't worry about it not being fully completed yet, I'll come back revisit your blog again later anyway :D
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32 shteffi
August 1, 2016 at 12:07 PM
Forget everything else. Let's just consider Jang Hyuk for a minute. First: looks. His face seems rounder and he is looking very very appealing to me right now, in this drama, in this role. He is not overdoing it. His tone is just right. He has owned his character (truly gifted actor).
I can't get enough of him.
My favourite drama at the moment.
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Bongsookie
August 1, 2016 at 11:25 PM
This is my first experience with Jang Hyuk...and first time I fell for an ahjusshi :P man, he rocks this role! Anyone know what other dramas of his is a must-see? I'm a new fan here :D
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yunn
August 2, 2016 at 1:07 AM
you may watch Chuno,Fated to love you,The merchant gaekju,.sometime korean ajhussi is more qualified than the korean oppa.like Jin Sung,Le Bum So,Park Shin Yang
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Bongsookie
August 2, 2016 at 1:28 AM
@yunn thanks chingu :) I was planning on watching Fated To Love You a while back because of JNR but I never got to it. Now I have a good reason to want to watch this! Chuno seems interesting too so that'll will go on my list. I heard of Merchant Gaekju but didnt know he acted in it so I'll check that out too. Kamsamida :)))
Oh haha I've never considered Ji Sung as an ahjusshi, he was always oppa to me. I guess in that case...Ji Sung must be the first ahjusshi crush for me? I haven't seen Le Bum So nor Park Shin Yang yet but I have heard of them just like I've heard of Jang Hyuk buthave never watched any of their dramas before...
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yunn
August 2, 2016 at 2:16 AM
you are welcome.Ji Sung may look like oppa,but his age is average with Jang Hyuk.so yes he is ajhussi.. hahah... ??i hope i don't hurt any other fans of ji sung.for Le Bum So,i recomended Giant,old series, and for Park Shin Yang you can search for his new drama My Lawyer Mr.Joe
Bongsookie
August 2, 2016 at 2:22 AM
Nice! So many good dramas to watch, my plan-to-watch list is getting longer each time. Haha
Anyway thanks again for those recommendations! ?
michykdrama
August 2, 2016 at 3:56 AM
@bongsookie
You also can check out Thank You- very heartwarming story about a child with HIV. Jang Hyuk is also a doctor in it (but it's not a medical drama) and I was very impressed how they handled the sensitive topic and how it also educated the public about misconceptions regarding HIV. the little girl in the show also put up an awesome performance.
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Bongsookie
August 2, 2016 at 5:21 AM
@Michykdrama
Whoa, thanks so much for the new medicap! It's like reading an extra recap analysis/comment section that's already up on the day I saw the drama. You're the best!! *Off to read* :D
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Bongsookie
August 2, 2016 at 5:28 AM
Ooh thanks for the rec! Wow Thank You was aired in 2007, which 9 years ago but it looks good, will def check this out too! :) I was also recommended A Tree With Deep Roots by another beanie too. Jang Hyuk has so many awesome dramas, I didn't realised what I was missing out on in the past :)
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33 Bongsookie
August 2, 2016 at 2:19 AM
PSD's Instagram update...our WiFi couple. Aww they finished filming!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BImTBnuAkHd/
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34 yunn
August 2, 2016 at 8:30 AM
watch thr raw eps 14.glad with the ending,but will be more perfect,if there is more 2 eps.
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Bongsookie
August 2, 2016 at 7:14 PM
I just watched the last episode! Whoa so amazingly heartwarming and ended well despite the episode cut! I'm left very satisfied and heartbroken that this drama is so underrated!! I loved it, this drama now holds #1 special place in my heart for 2016. I'm kinda glad that I have W to watch now, otherwise I would be in such a drama slump! Alrightone could hope but I hope this drama wins an award for excellent production/storytelling at KBS drama awards.
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yunn
August 3, 2016 at 12:55 AM
this drama,may get low ratted,but every cast and story,will left in our memory forever.it'd more valuable than just high ratted.????...... will so miss Jang Hyuk ahjussii and Park So Dam,and also Dr.ryu,Dr.Yang and Nurse Jang.(sorry i don't remember what their real name)
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yunn
August 3, 2016 at 4:35 AM
sorry wrong type,i mean Dr.Hyeon.
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35 Aijo
August 4, 2016 at 10:30 AM
This was the saddest episode. The scene in the husband's final moments was heartwrenching!
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