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Time I’ve Loved You swaps writers (again)

I really wish I could be a fly on the wall behind the scenes of SBS’s weekend romance drama The Time I’ve Loved You, because there’s way more drama offscreen than there is on. The production has already had an eventful string of PD and writer changes before ever going on the air, and now the drama is onto its THIRD writing team beginning with Episode 5 which aired this past weekend. What is going on over on that set to send writers packing every few weeks?

The remake of Taiwanese drama In Time With You stars Ha Ji-won and Lee Jin-wook as best friends of seventeen years who keep dancing around the possibility of romance but keep missing their timing. (Orrrrr, Lee Jin-wook just needs to spit it out before I sock him in the unmentionables, is what it’s about.)

The drama encountered its first wave of problems when PD Jo Soo-won (Pinocchio, I Hear Your Voice) left the show after a disagreement with the production company on the direction of the script. Soon after that, PD Jo was brought back, and writer Min Hyo-jung (Full House, Attic Cat) was swapped out.

That’s when a new pair of writers — Jung Do-yoon of Gumiho: Tale of the Fox’s Child and Baby-Faced Beauty, and Lee Hana of Sly and Single Again — were brought on to replace the original writer. They were able to rewrite the show from the start before the premiere, but it pretty much put the series on the live-shoot schedule from Day One.

The show has lingered in single-digit ratings (currently hovering around 7%) during its first three weeks on the air, and SBS decided that they weren’t happy with the way the show has been performing and opted to swap out the writers yet again. New writing team Ga Il (Ji Go, Ji Soon, In Hae) took over beginning with Episode 5, though so far there hasn’t really been a huge difference in the show’s performance over the weekend.

Honestly, I see why it’s not a huge ratings winner, despite its starpower and high expectations — not a whole lot happens in any given hour, though the overall mood and performances are well executed. At least with the introduction of big rival Yoon Kyun-sang, there’s some drama in this drama? I worry about how many writers have cycled through this show, but who knows, maybe the third time’s a charm?

The Time I’ve Loved You airs on Saturdays and Sundays on SBS.

Via Joy News, E Daily

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Whoo boy..."What would Anthony Do?"

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Exactly my first thought.

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Hi! Is there any site doing a fashion recap of this drama? Ha Ji Won had some really great outfits, am just really curious as to what brands is she wearing. koreandramafashion is not really active nowadays...
well, I don't really like the 2nd lead. I cannot empathize with him. he is not much of a competition.except for his tall physique, that's all there is to it. I think L had more intense encounters with Oh Ha Na.

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I agree. Bring back L

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i totally agree with you @amie @chachi bring L back to show. He is swoon worthy than the 2nd lead now, no offense meant to the fans!

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I want to know about her bags in this show they are beautiful

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First thing he would do is make it less boring. Then he would reduce the noble idiot factor by 50%.

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It's funny that they havent even completed writing the story before filming ?

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where's willy wonka's 'you must be new around here' meme when you need it.

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That seems to be pretty common...not completing a story arc at the beginning of filming. That is why so many dramas start out strong and crash and burn in the last few episodes.

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In my opinion, your comment strikes at the core of what may be the greatest failure of k-dramas. The current status-quo does not ensure that only completed, fully-realized scripts are put into production. As a fan from the US, this single thing really, really bothers me about what are otherwise extremely well done and interesting dramas. There doesn't seem to be the same standard as is in place here in the West in regards to requiring that shows be produced only from top-quality, finished scripts. Please kill the live-shoot system. It really needs to die a quick and brutal death.

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I agree. This system stunts the writers. Instead of them exploring their creativity more, they tend to end up pandering to executives and/or audiences instead.

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+100!!

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All too true. And quite often they try to "adjust" the drama to be more in line with the fan(atics), and end up just making a mess.

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That's pretty disturbing, but I really like the easy friendship so far, so I just hope things will work out.

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they have a great source material, what are they hoping for?

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Indeed. The ratings are bad, because the drama is just plain boring. Ha Ji Won also needs to stop playing with her hair.

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I find all Korean actresses and idols play with their hair constantly, drive me crazy.

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And that's why i loved the original and can't seem to get really, truly excited over this version.

It's the storytelling and the mood and the characterization that I can't truly get behind on.

They have only retained the cute and the fluttery and the charming but lost the angst and the pathos and the unexplained longing that DaRen has for You Qing in every smile, touch and glance which she remains clueless about.

In the original version, you seem to understand the reason why Da Ren has kept his feelings hidden for so long and there is a general acceptance that he's naturally a wimp when it comes to You Qing even if there are times that you get frustrated because it was shown that giving way and keeping things bottled up is inherent in his nature, while You Qing is the ballbuster, tough as nails best friend.

They lost that here and somehow it just makes Won look like a scaredy cat who has very shallow reasons for not telling Hannah his true feelings when she seems to reciprocate the same and willing to go the distance if only he asks her.

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Sorry, but in the original version Li Da Ren is an idiot without character, i like more the korean male version.

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There was nothing idiotic about Li Da Ren's character. Just like donnapie mentioned, he had a legitimate fear of losing You Qing that prevented him from confessing his feelings. The original scriptwriter did a brilliant job portraying a complex dynamic between the two, something that Korean version is failing to establish.

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There's a tendency (perhaps a need or requirement) for the male lead's in Korean dramas interest to almost immediately be reciprocated by the female lead, even if it's in secret. Actually, if his interest doesn't openly think of him as the the greatest thing since sliced bread, then she has to secretly believe he alone makes the world a better place by the end of the 2nd episode. They'll even give you a flashback to make it clear that she's loved him as long as, if not longer, than he's loved her.
Korean dramas leave true longing to 2nd leads and murderers. It's so entrenched that most viewers become hostile to the female lead when she doesn't immediately respond to any small show of kindness from the male lead regardless of whether he's been treating her like trash for much of the drama.
It's intentionally subversive and something I, ironically, find more frustrating when reading comments than when actually watching the shows since it seems so obvious what's going on when I'm watching.

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Like, like, like this comment. So agree with you.

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"Korean dramas leave true longing to 2nd leads and murderers."

LOL

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lol bet you hated Boys before Flowers, can not think of a better example of the girl expected to fall for the lead just because he show interest and is a complete jerk before hand, and got hate for not accepting him right away.

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I thought Da Ren's character was pretty well developed in the Taiwanese drama. He spent his life surrounded by strong women, so I could understand why he was a bit of a pacifist/pushover.

Also, there were several reasons why he didn't confess (as established in the drama):

1. Issues of timing- You Qing or Da Ren always seemed to be in a relationship while the other was free, so there wasn't really a good time. (Da Ren was also trying to find love other than You Qing so it would be okay for him if they were just friends.)

2. His fear of romanticising You Qing- he was afraid that because of his feelings, he was attributing thoughts and feelings to You Qing that weren't truly her, and his romantic feelings would thus have a possibly false foundation.

3. His dumb high school self- in a moment of fear of rejection, he told her he couldn't love her, and thus You Qing dismissed him as a suitor. With so many years of friendship on the line and no romantic advances from You Qing, he would have no reason to think she was romantically interested in him.

As for the Korean male version, so much of his past is shrouded in mystery that I find it hard to relate to him or root for him. I'm afraid that a lot of this stuff with the book and super serious "I will never love you" from the beginning will be poorly explained/glossed over with the writer shift.

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@donnapie @roo

I so agree with both of you! I've been thinking about this lately, and am hoping you can critique the thought process.

One thing I've noticed with the Kdrama fandom, is if they don't see quick beats of progression in situational benchmarks (first attraction, first confession, emergence of relationship obstacle, resolution of obstacle, first explosion of cute, first kiss, etc.), they criticize the plot for dragging. But if a drama follows this format precisely, they criticize it for being predictable and trope laden.

However, the few Taiwanese dramas I've seen seem to dive deeper into the inner emotional landscape of the characters. So the plot beats are driven by relational benchmarks. Like, the establishment of personality traits, the revelation of the emotional baggage that'll keep the OTP apart, a progressive set of beats showing how the characters develop better self-awareness, resolve issues, heal and become suitable for having a lasting relationship, etc.

For instance, in Fated to Love You, people criticized the Korean version for dragging after the midpoint. However, what I saw them doing was resolving all of the collateral emotional damage done by Gun's chaebol upbringing, parental abandonment issues, 'family curse', etc. The circumstances/conflicts seemed redundant on the surface; but in reality the redundant conflicts were delivering distinct beats of emotional progress.

Same thing for this drama. There hasn't been much progress in their circumstances. But what I thought the last episode did well, was to give better insight into Won's emotional landscape. It showed us the origins of the pain, fear and insecurity that he's kept hidden inside. The mask he wears to conceal it. And how doing that has paralyzed him from moving forward with Hana. I also liked how it showed us how present circumstances are beginning to cause a crisis of confidence.

It's so easy to want the characters just confess, and move forward. But to do that would be a hollow and unsatisfying progression. Wouldn't it? You'd have to make their only barriers circumstantial. How interesting is that?

I've wondered if maybe all they need to do is hang lanterns on the emotional beats so people can have a better sense of progress being made.

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Your conclusions and Girlfriday's are correct but I think we're a bit overestimating the original. Taiwanese dramas are plotless as a genre based mostly on their ability to create a romance (not the platonic sort but the "erotic" one) in terms of gaze, touch etc. Period. That's it. Koreans apparently have weirder and stricter censorship. Pathos in rom-com is a term tending to "hyperbola".

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Completely disagree, but I guess you've already made up your mind.

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Amen! Took the words right out my mouth!

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I agree, the best part of the Taiwanese version was Da Ren, but only because of the way he transmitted his love for Young Qin: he was intense and hot, and gave life to the drama. That being said, I enjoyed it very much.

I was happy to see that Choi Won was a different character here, namely with a spine, but they lack plot and the story feels a bit empty. They introduced the 2nd lead in episode 4 when in the Taiwanese version this guy appeared far later...looks like they run out of ideas very early. As a fan of Ha Ji Won, I am a bit sad because it could have been awesome...

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I'm enjoying this drama for the cute and pretty- I love the colours, OST, and Hana's styling. I find the OTP likeable, even if Won is frustrating at times and Ha Ji Won can still improve on her naturalistic acting. I am enjoying it to a certain extent, but... I have not gotten sucked into this like I was in the original.

The original is not perfect. Like the other Tw dramas I watched, the family storylines take a lot of screen time, and I admittedly found some scenes boring and unnecessary. What made it good for me is the overall mood, the strong chemistry between the leads (a lot stronger than in the Korean version) and the non-dramatic ness of it all. Daren might be a wimp, but I can totally understand (or at least, suspend my disbelief) why he cannot admit his feelings. While watching Won, it's like "Really? That's it?" and I even questioned why he liked Hana in the first place.

So, I think I'll be dropping this. Or maybe just get back on board to see the ending. How disappointing.

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@donnapie, you put it on spot, and i totally agree with you, i just cant seem to get the real feeling here in Kversion, the angst and the pathos as you have said is short in execution by both Won and Hannah, i also like that the tversion is more natural and spontaneous especially the lead actress. HJW is overacting here in my opinion, I like her as an actress but in this drama, she is just boring (but she is so goddess here, so young and fresh looking and her wardrobes are well chosen and fits her beautifully)...though i am still giving this a chance and watch the next few eps esp now that they have switched writers again, hoping for a better performance...

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The netizen might surmise that Ha Ji Won's team had something to do with it; that her team wanted more of X and less of Y, whatever that might be.

But regardless, it will be hard to shake the feel of artificiality in the story now.

If something happens to HJW's character now, I will wonder if it was written in because someone told the writers to put it in after the fact, or because it was there from the beginning (organically, if that means anything anyway).

My preference is that the story, if it is a good one, is told the way it should be told. Yet what happens if the story is boring or nonsensical? Shouldn't new writers have a chance at fixing? I dunno, I guess so.

Maybe none of it matters.... if cynicism should rule the day.

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So HJW's team *might* have something to do with it? Hum.. Interesting.

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It's SBS who want to change the writer, as they are the producer now, and they want a higher rating.

Ep 5 & 6, Choi Won is the one changed so much, you could see He is still very nice to So Eun on ep 1-4 but on ep 5 the way he treated her is huge different. I think SBS want a triangle love story between Hana, Won and Seo Hoo.

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That makes sense. The only thing that makes the drama feel a bit off to me right now is how Hana's character is being written. In the original she had a VERY thick shell of self-centered arrogance wrapped around a core that (occasionally) seemed worth redeeming. So we could understand why the male lead had doubts. Why he hung on. And why she would be inclined to overwhelmingly poor relational decisions.

They're playing Hana as being so sweet, connected and intimate with Won that it doesn't make much sense why they can't easily move forward together into their happily-ever-after.

Seems to me that a way to resolve things in a believable way would be to serve up a healthy measure of inner angst (and perhaps some sort of emotional trauma secret, for her) to make sense of it all.

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This writer swapping thing is getting old. Some new drama please! I absolutely love this drama, but hey! let's have flying monkeys and werewolves too! How's that for new?

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And suddenly my vague fear that Jin Wook has a serious medical condition is looking a lot more likely.

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You mean Won?

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Yes, that guy.

I really shouldn't post things until I drink my first coffee.

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Oh, please please please NO. Please.

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Hmm...that 's a bit far-fetched, though it reminds me of a similar situation in I Need Romance 2, with the lead character who was, interestingly, also played by Lee Jin Wook.

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I don't know if it's because I knew about this writer's change before watching episode 5&6 or what, but I could feel the change a bit. It just feels a lot less cute and funny and more....artificially melodramatic? Which is so stupid because the cute was working so well before, and I was happy to just watch normal people being for once.
Any info on what this writer team has worked on before?

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I didn't know about the change of writers but I definitely felt something was off in Ep 5, which is why I'm a bit hesitant to watch Ep 6. I thought things were a bit sloppy towards the end.

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I didn't know either, but I was like what is up w/ episode 5?! I definitely felt the subtle humor and quiet, reflective moments were gone. Episode 5 should've added a spark of energy and tension to the overall story, but it was slower than a snail and flatter than a plateau.

I like Hyung though. He has charisma and presence and is doing great w/ what non-existent material he has to work with.

I'm watching episode 6 and am totally unimpressed w/ the ongoing comments about aging. Instead of keeping Hana's self-reflective thoughts on aging, they changed it to other people making annoying comments about her age.

If they were going to change writers, they should've gotten the writer of 9 End 2 Outs (but I guess not b/c that drama didn't do well), Answer Me, Misaeng or YWCFTS.

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Lol, I'm laughing myself silly and shaking my head after watching episode 6 b/c I just DON'T GET IT! Why does SBS plagiarize all the wrong things (the trailer--it's illegal!) and not all the right things (the best of In Time With You--it's a remake--that's what you're supposed to do!!!). Their logic befuddles me. Really, all they need to do is sit down, watch ITWY, break it down into episodes, remove the boring stuff/keep the good stuff and w/ the addition of great directing/editing/styling/humor, how can you possibly go wrong?!!

I'm walking away after episode 6; all the characters, situations and conflicts are forced and contrived, and I can't imagine it getting better from here.

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Okay, that's it then. I don't think I'll also be watching the rest of episodes and just wait for Heads recaps. It would be less painful then.

*sighs*

I love HJW but things seem to be going downhill with all the drama behind camera and it's obviously affecting the show.

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It's mind boggling to me as well how they manage to screw up so badly. Rather than being angry or disappointed, I actually feel amused, just like you. This has turned into a tragic comedy for me. It's seems they're trying so hard to improve the drama but instead they mess up more and more, but I don't understand why, how, when their homework was already done from the beginning. It wouldn't have been that hard of they just kept the good stuff. Instead they tried being more ambitions and change things around, which should be ok provided they know what they're doing. They don't, so a more straightforward remake would have been more appropriate in this kind of situation. They honestly bit more than they could chew.

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+1! Episode 4 was when I started to really feel the show but then Ep 5 and 6 happened and now it feels strangely distant and artificially melodramatic again. Ugggh, SBS people could you please just stop whatever it is you're doing and let us watch the cute in peace?! Stop trying to make fetch happen because fetch ain't happening!

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LOL +100

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Yeah, I wonder any projects this writer team worked on before?
At least the last writer team has funny romcoms under their belt. And experience is important in writing the remake and not lost the essence.

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*normal people being normal

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I have not seen the original so IMHO, the first four episodes have the same plot, I can't tell the difference between ep 2 vs 4, same stuff different day..

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This saddens me immensely for LJW's sake who's doing really well as Won.

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There is something bothering me.

In the original, the female lead was really strong, selfish and harsh, difficult to handle. That is why *spoileeer* when they were young the male lead who had 2 strong woman in his house, said he would never fall in love with a 3º difficult woman. He would never fall in love with strong headed female lead who did and said what she wanted. (SPOILER ENDS)

So, in the korean one, Hana isn't as difficult as the tw female lead, and there isn't much to understand WHY Won would say "I'll never love you" seems like the korean version is going by "mother issues" and etc.

I don't see much fear by Won. Why he can't confess? In the tw version, he really had fear of losing the girl, because he had no idea how she would react.

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I think you nailed it. I tried and tried to like this version. I am not one to hate a new version just because I like the first one. I was able to watch the k-nodame with no problem. But this time it really really bothers me that the female lead is so whiny. It is like they took the main plot and swapped the main characters. Their essence is gone.

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I' m with you guys on the same boat. I think the show is cute but has no real depth.

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This drama is sorely lacking in build up, tension and feels for a rom-com. I am a huge fan of Ha Ji Won but I find myself struggling to get through episodes 5 and 6 right now. I'd hate to see this drama fall by the wayside if they don't amp it up a bit.

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Ohhhhhhh! Me too! I absolutely adore HJW and struggled with Ep 5 (haven't watched Ep 6 yet). I actually enjoyed the biking and picnic scenes but the rest *cringes*.

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I like the drama as it is, please don't ruin my pleasure. I think the tension is going to come up now that the male rivalry is set up so it might get things moving faster.
It's completely out of context but, Yoon Kyun-sang look so tall and imposing (for lack of better words). It was striking in the first scene with HJW and LJW. And I don't know if there is a problem because of his build or if it's fashion, but sometime his suits looked a little to short for him especially the arms... shallow observation I know.

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@Hippyloyta
In Anthony's hands, this might become a makjang-fest. Lol. He'd do anything for ratings. Oh wait. Maybe with a writer he likes, there'd be less melo.

But hey, there's always that guy from another prod company ruining everything.

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I've watched the original Taiwanese version.

I actually like the characters in this drama more. You Qing was one headstrong woman and while I can resonate with the character, I think the writers took her to one extreme. Li Da Ren on the other hand is a real doormat. I much prefer the Korean version of Won.

Having said that, the new character dynamics make it seem even odder that Won couldn't confess to Hana. But then, I also couldn't understand why Li Da Ren couldn't do so with You Qing as well considering their many years of friendship.

There were many comments that praised the TW version saying that it dwells on the friendship aspect more and the realization of love came later. I beg to disagree. Li Da Ren realized that he love You Qing right from the start. It's his own fear and cowardice that prevents him from confessing. To be frank, I didn't like both characters very much in the TW version but I like the friendship aspect and that's what held me on to the story. In the K version, I like both characters and the friendship aspect. I just didn't think the premise works for these two characters when they have to explain why Won didn't confess; unless they are going to pull one of the famous K tropes.

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I didn't see the TW version, but I agree with your assessment of the K version. I really like these guys as friends, and from a slice-of-life point of view, the drama works. Where it fails is in creating a realistic obstacle. In that way, it reminds me of Reply 97, in that the day-to-day interactions are really sweet and warm and fun, but the romance, no matter how great the chemistry of the leads (and both dramas have great chemistry), in both, the obstacle isn't really believable. Reply worked better for me, because there was much more focus on the characters and their lives/friends/families. TILY is less of a slice-of-life drama and more of a straight romance, so the weakness in the romance really hurts it.

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Won has a mommy issue, his mom left him for love (after a divorce?) and knowing how South Korea is still hard to accept a divorce or people who remarries, it can be seen that Won is having a similar hard time with Li Da Ren as a teen. This baggage will make Won having a fear for having a normal relationship and among the reasons for having his silly declaration to Hana, twice, that he never loves her.

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This makes me really sad because I just love how Lee Jin Wook plays Won. Well, Lee Jin Wook's performance in general. Hopefully this doesnt drastically change how he'a doing things. :(

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This is Anthony way, He will swap the writer, then suddenly they are sibbling, and Hannah got accident, have an amnesia, in the end jump into the future and she been telling this story when she already old woman. This will be happen if the next 4 episode if it doesn't got ratings wise.
Like Empress Ki, suddenly JJM got a less and less screentime, and in the end it became a Makjang Sageuk, with every male in the both kingdon fell for Empress Ki.
Poor Lee Jin Wook ...poor...poor poor LJW, if the 2nd lead appear, and they got rating rise, we can bet LJW will have his screenless time.
drama...drama...drama..#sighed...runtopreferotherchannelwithadorablenonhuman

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Or maybe just a couple of minor changes.

He might just reNAME it "These Boots Are Made For Walkin' " and make the whole thing a massive 16 episode ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

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I still love the drama. Didn't notice that there was a writer switch until I read about it here. Episode 5 and 6 did solidify that Won is definitely in love with Hana, and it seems that he might just act on it!

I'll just see how the story develops. I don't know if 7% is low, that seems to be the standard number for dramas now, even the ones that I think are well written and enjoyable, there's just so much good stuff out there this summer!

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As far as I know, if you hit double digits then it's a hit, 5% to 9% is about average and anything below 5% is a failure. Cable dramas like on TvN, anything below 1% is a failure and anything above 3% is a hit.

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I did not see the original version, but so far I don't think they needed this much star power or talent in the actors selected. This drama feels like an average story, very vanilla therefore not needing folks with high level acting chops. It is a waste of talent. Yes, LJW is doing a nice job with Won, but I am not pulled into his character. I loved LJW in other projects like Nine where he did a masterful job, but this is such a bland script/story. Same goes for HJW and her character...bland. My mind has started to wonder about their next projects because I want to see their acting chops again. The script was not much better with Warm and Cozy but there was a bit more to it that Yoo YeonSeok and Kang Sora could work which they did and managed to salvage but their acting skills.

I'll keep watching this because it is easy to watch and I giggle at the shoe PPL. Also, maybe the story improves? We'll have to see on that point.

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For me, the past weekends episodes were the worst - they portray Won was manipulative of HaNa's feelings and controlling of her life by pulling her away and not allowing her to get closure from a past relationship.

In the original, Li DaRen was angry with her decision but still a supportive and loving friend because it was HER choice...

I'm bowing out here but I hope it gets better for everyone, I mean, it's not hard writers...it's already written for you!

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*SPOILER: I just want to clarify - Won is manipulative of her feelings by not being honest about his true feelings for her (so she thinks he's not interested in her) and then leading her on by "accidentally" kissing her so she's completely confused by the mixed messages coming from his words and actions. (END SPOILER)

Sorry for typos above ?

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They are both acting well. I think the problem is just this sloooooowww plot more than anything. Literally nothing happens in this drama besides the endless "are they friends or more than friends" angle.

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I find the news of a writer swap really interesting. I dropped this drama midway through episode 3 - despite the lovely acting and good production values, I was just too bored.

How were episodes 5 and 6? Are the new writers better? Should I come back? Or is it still "sloooooowwwww"?

Thanks!

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Unfortunately still sloooooowww, lol. I'm giving up. I fail to see how the Taiwan version got so popular. No matter how good the acting or script may have been in that one, ultimately there's nothing happening with the plot.

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I know drama is reallllly slow when I also stop reading the recaps! :-)

Thanks for the feedback.

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Ikr? this kind of story is just not my cup of tea. How the original version got so popular is beyond me. Well I guess to each their own. For the lack of plot, I wish it should be done in 10 eps only coz 16 eps is just too damn long

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The original Taiwanese version In Time With You has great characters in the sense that you can see why they didn't get together earlier; the girl is oblivious and the boy loves her but is too afraid he couldn't handle her (when they were younger), and then later he is too afraid to change their relationship (because they have become such close friends).

That drama was short at 13 episodes, and each episode is about one sign of old age, Li Da Ren emailed You Qing a list on her 30th birthday.
Episode 01: Sign of old age - Forgetting things that happened recently more easily, but remembering things of the past more clearly.
Episode 02: Sign of old age - People call you so-and-so Jie (older sister) and so-and-so Ge (older brother), and you want to tell them to 'shut up!'.
Episode 03: The divorces of their friends start exceeding that of their marriages.

It's a small but relevant story usually about the main characters or the heroine's friends or family or colleagues, and then based on what happened during the episode, the heroine learns something about what makes a mature and sophisticated woman charming:
Episode 01: Finally learning to throw a wicked and beautiful punch as we tread on beautifully in our high-heeled shoes.
Episode 02: I'll use my own money to buy my own bag to create my own story.
Episode 03: Have a friend who will grieve for you for your broken heart.

You can find the whole episodes list here (http://film-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2012/01/in-time-with-you.html), Chinese text included just in case there's errors in translation to English.

I didn't want to watch the drama because I didn't find 'how it was marketed' interesting, but I still gave it a chance and I'm glad I watched it.

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Makjang type drama still reigns supreme every weekend. I think SBS think that this drama will get the same rating as the other makjang-type drama hehe

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Why they didn't work with I Need Romance franchise writer? She already proved she's pretty good with romance series especially her last writing Discovery of Romance which showed very strong headed female lead character. I think she's pretty good handling the story without villain, amnesia or makjang components with more realistic story around younger generations.

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Some people mighy say that Da Ren is a doormat in the original but again, you can't blame the guy because from the get go, you understand why he is that way. Again, characterization.

People might hate him but that's what i like about him. He's flawed and imperfect and HUMAN and not just some sort of super hero male lead romantic character designed to get the girl from the get go.

But to each his own.

I guess if you haven't seen the original, you may have no points of comparison but since i did, i feel regretful that this version turned out the way it did because c'mon! You have Lee Jin Wook and Ha Ji Won. If they only took a page out of the originals feel even if just a little, with it's directing, writing, cinematography and even the musical scoring, they would have taken this drama to another whole new level of epic lovestory proportions.

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Such a tremendous waste of HJW & LJW. I mean if they'd have worked on their script then this could've been SO good. We're only in week 3 and they've introduced so much angst already. Imagining the what could've been is truly frustrating.

Doubt if LJW will sign onto the Big 3 in the future considering the BTS drama that revolved with both Spy and this. He should stick with tvn since it's their shows that gave him both critical acclaim and a boost to his star power.

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Korean audience don't like slice of life dramas is what I feel. It was never gonna be a hit.

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they keep complaing about melos and chaebol but then don't watch slice of life dramas and complain there is nothing else lol

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I've been analyzing Korean dramas for the last year or so and I can say that there are three things that (when executed well) seem to result in high ratings: high concept, lots of action, or comedy.

By high concept, I mean a really really interesting premise that gets explored. By action, I mean both high makjang or high physical action.

When there isn't really some great intellectual premise to work out or some overwhelming obstacle to overcome, audiences understandably get bored. Exception: comedy. And comedy only works when the audience really really likes the characters.

I actually think that comedy / drama / romance is the best form of Korean dramas. When I think of the ones that have really taken off in the last year or so, they've all had elements of all three: You from Another Star, Healer, Pinnochio, etc.

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a well written, well acted, relatable drama will always be a hit anywhere too which was the case with Misaeng.

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I haven't watched that one yet. Am saving it for a rainy weekend. :-)

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Tbh, the Taiwanese version was extremely slow too, imo. There wasn't a whole lot happening and it was extremely character and relationship driven. That being said, it didn't feel as boring, tiresome and senseless as this one.

I don't see why Won told her he can't love her. Don't see why he can't confess. I see no genuine fear on his side, and I think that's more frustrating than anything. LJW has never impressed me, but this performance just solidifies that opinion. He can't bring in the longing, love and want in his eyes and that's where this drama loses whatever charm the original had. I dropped it after episode 4 though, so I cant judge the changes.

I think SBS was dreaming humongous if they expected ratings to somehow soar into double digits. That's not happening in a badly written drama, in a dead time slot with questionable acting. This writing swap can't possible do any good for the drama so I feel sorry for the cast.

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I hereby volunteer to be the final writer. Just give me total say so in what happens. I promise no amnesia, no "Surprise! You're actually siblings!" or brain tumor/liver cancer/fatal diseases.

All the actors are so good and fun to watch, I'd love to write lines for them. (Just find me somebody who can translate my English to Korean. Not how it's usually handled, but on the other hand, the subbing is already done!)

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I'd volunteer to be your assistant writer.. :D

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You're hired! (I'll let you know when they contact me.)

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Okay writer-nim! Let's increase the ratings and write this show properly!!

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LOL. Will you just be the one to do it, please? I'm tired of SBS changing writers again and again. Can't they just make up their minds once and for all and let us watch our show in peace? All these writer changes and behind-the-scenes drama is ruining the watching experience and just makes everything feel so empty and disjointed. I mean, what were they expecting? The TW version wasn't fast-paced or complex in terms of plot or storyline in the first place. Did they seriously think it'd compete ratings-wise with the makjang fest staples ahjummas and ahjussis like to watch over the weekend? I mean I know they'd hoped it would given HJW's star power but if the performance of the past SBS shows in this time slot were any indication, it's not likely to suddenly increase drastically.

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This drama's plotline is so cheesy. it reminds me of the older kdramas back in the early 2000s.

Every scene that comes out, I already know what to expect. And as mentioned, nothing happens within each episode. I think I've seen the same scene b/w the high school versions at least once in every episode.

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while i really enjoy reading recaps and everyone's comments in real time, sometimes i feel like we've lost the joy of watching dramas by being overly concerned with what goes on behind the scenes (the writer swap is one thing, but there seems to be this fixation on the ratings too). maybe it's because we want to make sure we are investing our time in a good drama because goodness knows there are so many dramas now - but i fully intend to finish this one simply because i enjoy it and LJW and HJW and even this supposedly boring as hell script is doing it for me. FIGHTING!!!

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I dunno man. For me, my watching a show never depended on ratings especially K-dramas, because I usually like those that have low ratings and dislike those that have high ratings (like Heirs). Not all of them but most.

I guess what's good for me isn't really what's popular for Korean viewers?

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Maybe there ought to be some substance in a drama besides stunningly beautiful actors angsting over romance? Seems when that's all there is as a hook the general audience in Korea goes elsewhere, no matter who the stars are. These days so do I.

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I like the leads but the second leads started to annoy me starting from ep.5. Now I know why. The stewardess hoobae is pushing herself on Won even if he has already drawn the line, and the pianist is generally unlikable from the start. Still, I'm watching to see how the leads would progress. Though I'm gonna seriously dislike Hana if she's going back with the jerk ex and let her heart waver.

My favorite current drama is definitely Oh My Ghostess. Park Bo-young is love and I can see why tvN paid a lot to get her.

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Oh My Ghostess! Loving every part of it. :)

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Don't knownif this is because of the writer change, but I'm so disappointed in Seo-hoo's character. He's such a one-dimensional jerk that is unlikely to exist in real life. Who the hell just waltzs in and out of people's lives with a haughty strut and expect ppl to think him suave? It wouldve been more of an alarm to Won if he was actually another genuine nice guy.

Same with So Eun. Her blantant maneuvers come off annoying rather than endearing. While Won hasnt exactly told her off, one should be able to tell when someone isn't attracted to you.

And freaking Hana is such a pushover. I dont see how theres ANY reason to dwell on a many who freaking left you at your own engagement party!!! Her character shouldve been like Lee Min Jung's in Smile, You when her crummy fiance left her on the side of the road.

These characters are too simple and unlikable. The only person I would befriend in real life is Won.

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I've read tons of comments from people with SLS who think he's dreamy.

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"And freaking Hana is such a pushover. I dont see how there's ANY reason to dwell on a many who freaking left you at your own engagement party!!!"

I wonder what the explanation will be that Seo Hoo missed the party AND did not contact her at all with explanation or apology. Accident/coma/amnesia? He is a star so that would be in the press. Won interceded in a way to Seo Hoo to think the relationship was off? I doubt Seo Hoo would have fallen for that. I don't know what could be a legit-ish reason to be out of communication for so long.

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THIS IS WHY I WATCH OH MY GHOSTESS AND I REMEMBER YOU.... and just read this drama over here at dramabeans.

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Girlfriday is right, the action is entirely off screen. This drama has been such a disappointment and a snoozefest. The two leads are just not connecting, writer problems or no writer problems.

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Hmmm, interesting. I hated ep 5 but loved ep 6. I keep praying to the drama gods to make Seo-hoo more like Won Bin's character in ... you probably know which drama. ;-) I'm disappointed that they're portraying him so far as a complete jerk but I think I may be getting what I prayed for with this change. Lol.

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Any angles here who'd like to tell who's Anthony? LOL

And what is the charm of this drama beside the chemistry? Because for me, most couples in K-dramas have good chemistry :)

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Anthony is a character from the drama "The King of Dramas" who was played the awesome Kim Myung Min....he's a CEO of a drama production company and the show basically shows us the cutthroat tactics Anthony would use to make sure his drama's were a hit lol such an awesome character.....and a good drama too!

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OH goodness...what is going on with this show. ACK.

For all those saying the plot is TOO slow or nothing is really "happening"....if you haven't seen the original, then basically...THIS is the point of the show.

The taiwanese version isn't heavy on the plot or storyline but focused solely on the two many characters, tiny nuances and details including their flaws were explored by means of Ariel and Bolin.

What I loved about the original is we really understood why these two people behaved this way. We understood Da Ren's choice of not confessing to You Qing and we understood You Qing lack of confidence in her love life despite being such a kickass strong boss lady in her professional life.

Anyway, I'm still staying with the drama, I just really hope these people follow the source material more than trying to make this more "dramatic" for ratings -_-

I always thought this show wasn't cut out for Korean audiences....it's just not the right target audience for high ratings and more of a quality piece work to be enjoyed by select few I believe

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Love the leads. But story sucks. Don't hate SoEun yet, but she's as annoying as hell because she's neither nasty or the damsel in distress that sinks her claws in Won & won't let go. And Seo Hoo, unless he had some disease, like that other drama about the artist who took off, and returned with an exhibition of his love/muse, had no real reason to disappear. (drama name?) SH was just an uncommitted playboy who had roaring hormones. "your face won't leave my mind - isn't a valid reason". 'I can come back at any time & we can date again" isn't a valid reason since Hana had another guy (married coworker) in between him. Why would it matter that he left Hana at the 'altar"? The stories are being played 1/2 way and it makes no sense Hana would waiver back to SH, and Won wouldn't confess (over his mom issues - Hana's never left/never will), and So Eun doesn't get lost in baggage claim for being an oversize bag. I hope the new production team clicks wt the writer and salvages the story, even if it's different from what the based it on before.

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Your thinking of Witch's Romance, that guy took forever to leave. Him and those stupid shoes.

I don't remember In Time With You well but from what I remember it established early on that her relationship with her old boyfriend was very toxic but it was one of those insane attraction things that make you crazy.

The actors had some chemistry which helped sell it.

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Yes, Witches Romance where the former love interest had an accident but that still did not explain why he was not in communication as soon as he could have been.

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* Witch's not Witches

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On line rating for this drama is over 30% which indicated that the drama's interesting. However, lifestyles have changed, people stay out during weekend, so the rating on TV is at average 7%. The other channels which priory showed already got established followers. Moreover, the gene of this story is remade light heart roncom of which most of story was known. It's hard to get a high rating. Though the channel changes how many writers, it'll just create more burdens to the casts & crew, & probably ruin the story.
For me, I really enjoy the show, actors, actresses till now; and hope only that there will be no more interference to destroy it.

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It's no surprise this drama isn't getting the reception they were hoping for. Honestly the original never had a novel premise or gimmick to attract attention in the first place. Why then did it become so award winning and a ratings success? Execution. Well-written, rich, poignant dialogue, great characterization, believable and captivating dynamic between characters that were a whole lot more refreshing than the usual stock characters that populate dramas time and time again, just to name a few reasons.

Yet the Korean version simply kept the bare-bones not even slightly special derivative plot and discarded the actual winning factors. They either lost essential aspects (HaNa's original personality) or simply presented a shallow version of them. What results is a cute inoffensive show with no depth, no lasting power or actual impact. In the hands of a less competent scriptwriter/director In Time With You would have had the same fate.

There simply is no depth in this show while its original counterpart was overflowing with depth, at least for a TV drama and especially if you take into account how brain dead most rom-com dramas are. The original mains were complex characters. You could always understand their though processes even when you didn't agree with. The conversations they had actually managed to make me ponder. No such thing in this version. The characters here lack depth and they don't stand out in any way. It's just a bland, "fast food version" of In Time With You and it's a pity cause surely the original had its own share of issues and it could have been improved.

There have been some great K-remakes (a recent example is Liar Game), so it's not like any remake is bound to fail, far from it. This though is simply not one of the good ones.

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Agree with you. I wonder why I am not connecting with any of the characters in the drama. The 2 leads are known to be good actors yet I don't feel they are bringing their A game. I feel they are acting and not into their characters. Their rooftop conversations are just shallow. I thought the 2 close friends will have deep conversations. Maybe because they themselves have no idea which direction the characters are being written. I must say the drama is a disappointment so far.

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Thank you for wording this so eloquently! It's a shared sentiment for those who adored the original, including myself!

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On line rating is not reliable, can be manipulated by fans.

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Manipulated or not, but I believe online ratings also could be as one indicator the show popular or not. From last year, there were several dramas that got average ratings but big winner in drama awards such as Discovery of Romance, It's Ok It's Love and Pinocchio. Or some of them really accepted well overseas such as Healer, Birth of Beauty and My Lovely Girl. On the other hand, some high ratings dramas such as saeguk, can't do anything more than when they were airing. I think, TV station should be more aware about this fact.

The most important thing is, whether it's high , average or low ratings, all team production should show their professionalism till the end and consistent with the story lines. This is why I hate if TV stations too much interfere about the writings due to high demands of ratings. I understand they need money from CFs during it's airing, but as I mentioned previously that popular dramas mostly could be another source of their income especially from overseas.

So, if they could give solid storyline, this drama could be saved.

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HJW is my favorite actress, but here role in this one is so wishy washy. She normally plays strong woman characters whereas in this one she is MEH.....
17 years as friends is long enough.. I dislike Won dragging her away.. She needs to finally find out why her old boyfriend took a hike.
Didn't see the original, but this one is not interesting. Every week it's either Won being a wuss, his girl friend being a pushy pain, or HJW doing backward steps from figuring out what she wants to do.

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This is just sad. I feel bad for the leads and everyone involved.

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I've been watching the Taiwanese version to hold me over till next week and, while first dibs syndrome means I'm more invested in Won and Ha Na's story, I see the point of those who like the original better. 7000 days is zippy and not as thoughtful. I eagerly await Oh Ha Na's new outfits, the potential boyfriends' scene in the Korean version is flashier and funner, the school scenes are livelier but they're trying to milk Won's Big Secret too much. I'm kind of afraid the writers wrote themselves into a corner, there's so many things "left unsaid" in the last 6 episodes I wonder if the writers know what they're going to say at all.

I'll keep watching just for the outfits alone, but the show needs to start explaining some basic things (Ha Na's relationship in 2011, why exactly Won did what he did in high school, if her ex is really redeemable) or people are going to stop watching. We all know Ha Na and Won aren't getting together anytime soon, so his big resolution last episode was totally wasted on the audience.

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I haven't watched episodes 5 or 6 yet, but I've been liking this drama. The leads are so cute together. Their chemistry is wonderful to see. I wanna know Won's mystery reasoning against loving Hana too. Sure, it seems obvious that the leads will end up together...? But most kdramas are like that. (I haven't watched the original version)

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Really enjoyed the first 2 episodes, however upon watching eps 3-4 the momentum just stopped and I found myself bored.

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this is remake, for goodness sake. If nobody has a good idea, then just follow the original! Yes and I totally agree that they should stop this live shoot format. I dont know how many drama has been ruined this way.

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