Warm and Cozy: Episode 12
by javabeans
It’s amazing (…or is it?) how, when a character stops acting stupid and turns on the decisive swoony switch instead, my general dissatisfaction with a show can make the flip over into satisfaction, even when the plot continues to be silly and illogical. Warm and Cozy isn’t a drama with an outright WTF plot, where things happen out of the blue or for no reason—it does have an internal logic. It’s just that the logic is often dumb. At least now, in the absence of a sharp plot, we have characters being heartfelt and sincere (finally!), which goes a long way to delivering some warm fuzzy feelings (and even some heart palpitations). That said: Is it progress if someone goes from being an outright idiot to a noble one?
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EPISODE 12 RECAP
Gun-woo’s sweet pinky-swear and finger-kiss gets replayed in Jung-joo’s dream, but when she wakes up in the morning, she thinks it was only in her fantasy. Finding the contract taped back up, she assumes it was her own doing.
Gun-woo asks if she remembers how she got home last night, only to have her say she took a taxi. In her memory, she imagines herself drinking very responsibly with the mayor, calmly settling the bill, and arranging a cab ride home. She credits her “perfect homing instincts” for getting her home safely, like a salmon. Gun-woo asks, “Then was what I saw yesterday a carp?” (A carp, in Korean, is often invoked to refer to someone lacking in the smarts department.)
He refreshes her memory with his version of events, in which Jung-joo tries to take a cab home (by yelling out into the open for a taxi and wandering off) and he pays the bill. She mistakes him for the mayor the whole time, and insists that he go home first while she waits for her taxi.
So Gun-woo calls Jung-joo pretending to be the taxi driver, and asks why she didn’t call the man she likes—surely he would come to get her. Jung-joo mumbles that she couldn’t do that: “He’s not even mine, and all this while I’ve been too shameless with him.”
Back in the present, Gun-woo says he’s pretty sure she was a carp and not a salmon, and announces, “Yesterday I renewed our contract.” Jung-joo declines the renewal, saying that she knows he helped her mother, but doesn’t want to be a shameless person with him. So they can consider that money taken from her deposit on the restaurant, and now the contract is void and they’re free of each other.
But Gun-woo says they struck a new contract last night. Appalled at the idea that she accepted something further from him, she declares that she won’t take anything from him anymore. He, on the other hand, refuses to take anything back.
Hae-shil wakes up in Jung-geun’s suite and smiles to see him sleeping next to her (fully clothed). She quickly shuts her eyes when he stirs, pretending to sleep when he tells her he kept his promise to be here when she woke. He sighs that he has to go to work but doesn’t want to leave without exchanging words, and asks her to wake up.
He leaves the bed and Hae-shil gets up, only to find him watching her from the other side. Anticipating that she’d want to get home right away, he admits to wanting to raze her house while she was sleeping so she couldn’t leave. She replies that she still has a workplace to return to, and he’d be hard-pressed to dry up the entire sea.
Jung-geun’s worried about her returning to diving, but she says a diver’s boyfriend has to be prepared for possible risks. She asks, “Will you try dating a diver?” He likes the sound of that, and agrees to be her boyfriend.
Jung-joo wonders what Gun-woo means about a new contract, then recalls that Wook was there—perhaps he’ll fill in the blank spots. But then a memory floats to the surface, filling her with dread to recall how she asked Wook to seduce her so she could marry him.
Wook is still reeling from last night, dully recalling how Jung-joo lit up to see Gun-woo there in his seat. He regrets leaving to get medicine, and says bleakly, “It hurts to death.”
Jung-joo shows up at the mayor’s office and hears that he’s out sick today. His employees lay on the sympathy thick to get her to drop by and check on him, although when she arrives, she finds him heading out to work. She apologizes sincerely for the night before, feeling bad that she poured salt in the wound while knowing how he feels about her. To make her feel better, Wook says he doesn’t remember much after drinking.
Jung-joo notices a button on his shirt dangling by its thread, and he yanks it off before realizing that just makes it worse. So he asks for her help putting it back on, and proceeds to fidget awkwardly while she sews the button to his shirt. Uh, are you so sure working a needle that close to his heart is a good idea? Then again, maybe it’s meant to be symbolically relevant. (Then again, with this drama, maybe not.)
Wook asks if she’s going to run Warm & Cozy with Gun-woo now, confused when she says their contract is over. He thought something happened after he left, but she admits blanking out. She asks if something happened, and Wook briefly remembers how Gun-woo claimed her as his girlfriend before saying noncommittally, “Nothing much.”
Welling up with hope, Wook says he thought it was all over, but sees that the knot hasn’t yet been tied. She thinks he means the button, which she finishes sewing. Wook asks if there’s still a chance for him, just as the moment is broken by Mr. Gong and two diver ajummas, who cluck knowingly at the cozy scene (and snap photos for good measure).
They leave so the couple can continue their romancing, and Jung-joo wants to clear up the misunderstanding. But Wook holds her back and says he doesn’t care about rumors because it’s true he likes her—does she want Gun-woo to know how firmly he’s in her heart, to know just how much of a fool she is for always losing to him? He reminds her that she was the one who asked Wook to chase Gun-woo out of her heart, and that using a fake is another stratagem (of war).
Wook offers to be that for her, and urges her not to fall for any of Gun-woo’s tricks or let her determination shake. Jung-joo agrees that she can’t trust a confession from Gun-woo, and considers Wook’s words.
At the restaurant, Poong-san’s confused to hear Gun-woo declare firmly that Jung-joo won’t be leaving for that other restaurant with the mayor: “I won’t send her away. I like her so much I can’t send her away.” He picks up his spade and says calmly that Poong-san had better not mention the mayor to him anymore, lest Gun-woo lose his calm.
So naturally, Gun-woo is flabbergasted when Mr. Gong comes running up with the scoop—and the picture—proving that Wook and Jung-joo are finally dating. He asks for Gun-woo’s cooperation in leaving Jung-joo alone today to be with Wook, and Gun-woo snaps that he won’t cooperate because he likes Jung-joo.
Mr. Gong goes to Poong-san for clarification, but neither can be sure of how the feelings actually stand. If Gun-woo likes Jung-joo, are those feelings returned?
Gun-woo waits outside as Jung-joo arrives in Wook’s car, and shoots dark glances as Wook gives her one last reminder not to shake in the wind. Inside, Poong-san tries to figure out how the relationship stands (dude, get in line) and asks whether Jung-joo was with Gun-woo last night. She, on the other hand, hears that Ji-won dropped by last night and draws the conclusion that Gun-woo went out with her.
Meanwhile, outside the rivals share some snappish words: Gun-woo says pointedly that he brought Jung-joo home last night, and Wook says blandly that he didn’t see him. It’s basically a round of “Fine” and “So there” and “Hmph” between them, and I find it amusing how Wook is dismayed at his own pettiness, while Gun-woo has no such qualms.
Gun-woo takes issue with Jung-joo going to see the mayor and calls her a carp for misremembering last night—he was there. But she doesn’t believe him, especially since Wook confirmed not seeing him. Gun-woo grumbles, “So because of how I acted before, you’re seeing this as a joke.” WELL DUH, boy who cried Ji-won.
So he decides to tell her seriously, straightforwardly, what happened: Last night he went looking for her out of concern, found her, and renewed their contract because he didn’t want to send her away. “Yesterday, I gave all of me to you. You’ll accept, won’t you?”
She asks if she really asked for the restaurant, and he bursts out, “Not the restaurant, ME! I gave you me! Lee Jung-joo, I like you.”
Jung-joo gapes, gobsmacked. Then she marvels, “Wow, I almost lost again just now!” Now it’s his turn to gape as she declares that she won’t fall for his trickery anymore: “I’ve chased you from my heart. Now someone else will come in.” Muahaha, I have to say this is really satisfying. You can’t say he didn’t earn that.
Gun-woo sighs to Poong-san that she doesn’t believe him, and now understands the boy who cried wolf. Poong-san warns that the story doesn’t end well for the boy (Gun-woo: “Didn’t he receive forgiveness later and live well?”), who ended up eaten by the wolf.
Meanwhile, Mr. Gong has overheard the exchange and interprets it to mean that Gun-woo harbored a one-sided crush and has been rejected. He tells Gun-woo to give up like a man and help out when Wook’s family members drop by to see Jung-joo.
Which leads to a parade of cameos (ish), with Kim Sung-oh playing Wook’s reserved doctor hyung, and then also his free-spirited rancher younger brother. Oh, please tell me there’s a sister in the mix.
Lucky for us, there is: Noona the teacher comes by last and looks approvingly at Jung-joo. Wook explains that they all take after their father—played, of course, by Kim Sung-oh. Jung-joo says all the siblings misunderstood their relationship, but Wook says he didn’t clear anything up. Jung-joo took the same approach with Gun-woo.
She asks Wook whether Gun-woo came by last night to pick her up, and Wook hesitates before answering that he didn’t see him. He tentatively asks her to come with him to buy his niece a gift, saying she could consider it a date. She replies that she’s not good at pretending anything, making his head sink in disappointment—then revives his spirits by adding that that’s why she’ll try to treat it as real. He replies, “I’m happy with even that.”
In the wine cellar, Jung-joo tenses up when Gun-woo joins her to ask if she truly doesn’t believe that he came to get her last night. Her back turned to him, she says that the contract was her last bit of pride, tied up with her entire life’s savings. That’s gone now, and she has nothing. Even if he says he gave her something, she doesn’t remember it, and she has no intention of accepting it.
Gun-woo replies that he has no intention of taking it back, and he’s okay to take his time showing her. He holds up something and says it’s a freebie, which triggers her memory of the dream pinky-promise. She stares wide-eyed, and he leans in (rawr) to ask if she remembers. She stammers that she doesn’t, and he disappointedly calls her carp again.
After he goes, she starts to look for the freebie he left, but stops herself—she knows it’ll shake her resolve. She tamps down the urge to steal a glimpse at the necklace he won for her, which she’d tucked away in her shell.
Gun-woo’s noona storms up to have some words with Hae-shil, determined to get rid of her with an envelope of money. Satisfyingly, Hae-shil refuses the payoff, saying that she’s lost her head over Jung-geun, but not because of money. Instead, it’s his good-looking face that won her over, elegant like a black pearl, and she’s quite partial to handsome faces. And while Jung-geun’s looks will fade and her affections may wane, that’ll be for her to deal with later. When noona reaches for a glass of water to fling in her face, Hae-shil slams her hand down on the glass, saying that she almost died in the ocean—a tiny glass of water is nothing.
Jung-geun’s faithful secretary eavesdrops and reports back to him, and of course Jung-geun takes her words literally and beams at the thought of his face winning Hae-shil’s heart.
Noona vents about her brother’s girlfriend to the Nosy Novelist, who has by now put together the whole family drama and clucks over their crossed fates. (A refresher: Gun-woo’s father killed Hae-shil’s husband, and Jung-geun’s mother is somehow to blame.) But curiously, she pretends she was barking up the wrong tree and advises noona to forget about it all. Does Nosy actually have a conscience?
Gun-woo pouts to hear that Jung-joo’s going out with the mayor and guesses she’s doing it just to show him. She tells him to think whatever he wants to (literally, “according to your heart”), to which he replies that he can’t because he already gave his heart to her. He says he’ll do as she wants, then—but she says she wants him to let her go, which makes him huffy. If she remembered last night, he says, she wouldn’t treat him like this. She huffs back that she’s a carp, remember?
He leans in close and stares in her eyes, saying that her instinct is more like a blood-sucking carp—and he’ll let her eat him up. (So many jokes, none of them appropriate.) He waggles his fingers in her face, telling her (instinct) to wake up. But she just sees more joking and slaps his hand aside, to his frustration.
Jung-joo goes on her shopping date with Wook, picking out clothes for his niece’s birthday. He asks her to wait while he drops off the gift, and it turns out she runs into the girl first when she taps on Jung-joo’s car window. Jung-joo agrees that she looks just like Wook, though the show keeps her face purposely hidden.
Gun-woo fitfully waits for Jung-joo to return, and is disappointed to see Ji-won arrive instead. Ji-won begs Gun-woo not to change, shedding a few tears as she offers to wait for him in the meantime. Gun-woo isn’t fooled by her tears, saying he knows her well enough to know they’re fake, and she actually rolls her eyes to be called out.
He tells her that the reason he worked to keep his feelings constant wasn’t because he wanted to keep liking her—it was his decision to only like one person. Ji-won surprises him by honing on the matter: It’s to prove he’s not his father, who promised he’d never stop loving his mother, only to betray her. Ji-won tries to convince Gun-woo that he’s only confusing his feelings for Jung-joo, but he replies “Does it look like I’m confusing my feelings? I truly like Jung-joo.” He sends her away.
Time for Gun-woo’s father to make his reappearance, and he’s recognized by Mr. Gong right away. Dad hadn’t intended to return here, but he saw news of Hae-shil’s accident at sea and wanted to repay his debt to her after killing her husband. He served his full15 years in prison, but the emotional burden continues to weigh on his mind. He asks for Mr. Gong’s help, anticipating that Hae-shil won’t want to accept anything from him.
Hae-shil walks home with Jung-geun after a date, and tells him the concert was frankly a little boring. He liked it, but says it’s too bad he couldn’t find something to suit her tastes better. Then she invites him in for ramyun using a famous line from 2001’s One Fine Spring Day, and they’re cheered to find they both like the same movie.
Gun-woo perks up when Jung-joo finally comes home, but is pouty to hear that she met Wook’s entire family. She offers him rice cakes Wook’s mother made, and he shoves it aside, accidentally knocking the whole thing to the ground. She thinks he meant to do that, and he tries to ease her anger with food offerings.
He presents her with a plate of carp-shaped buns and apologizes for messing with precious food made by somebody’s mother. He admits that hearing her talk of someone else’s parents makes him feel small, because he can’t compete in that quarter.
Mollified, she says consolingly that he has his siblings. Gun-woo says that growing up, they each lived with their respective fathers’ families, and he wasn’t well-received because nobody liked his mother. She suggests that he’d feel better if he met his father, since she was glad to meet hers despite everything. At that, Gun-woo starts to confide in her before stopping short. Instead, he just says that he doesn’t want to meet his dad.
Dad, meanwhile, is asked about the woman thirty years ago who was pregnant with his child. Did she wait for him? Dad doesn’t respond.
Hae-shil describes to Jung-geun how it felt to lose her husband, and how she spent every day as though it were the day after his death. Ten of those years were spent sad, ten years wronged, and ten years at a loss. She’d thought it was her fate to live the rest of her life in one day, but after meeting Jung-geun, the days started to move on. Jung-geun promises that she won’t have to return to that day anymore, and will clear away everything that might take her back. Uh, foreshadowing alert?
Gun-woo advises Jung-joo to not be as mean as he was in letting someone else’s feelings drag on, and to wrap things up with the mayor. She agrees that she’s not good at leading people on and is giving the relationship sincere effort, but he knows that won’t work, and draws an analogy with the tools in his kitchen. He’s so in tune with it that he knows just how hot his oven is, or when his water is about to boil.
Holding up two fingers to Jung-joo’s forehead, he says, “You’re boiling, like always. You haven’t cooled in the least. Jung-joo-ya, I’m not just nice and warm-and-cozy with you like I used to be.” He places her hand on his heart so she can feel the beating, and says, “Right now, I’m hot.” That you are.
Jung-joo’s clearly rattled, but she says she can’t trust what he says and tries to shy away. He pulls her closer and holds both her wrists, saying wistfully how hard it is for the boy who cried wolf to clear the air. “I’ll end up eaten by the wolf,” he says, and asks her to cut him some slack, patting her face lightly before letting her go. She slumps, totally turned upside-down and all around.
Mr. Gong approaches Hae-shil about a potential buyer for her house, saying that he really wants the land and is prepared to pay ten times her asking price. She’s thought of moving and considers it, though even Jung-geun says he wouldn’t pay ten times the price, even though he likes her.
With that in mind, he says he wants to introduce Hae-shil to his family, and drops in to Warm and Cozy to tell Gun-woo that she’s his girlfriend.
Mr. Gong calls in the novelist couple to confirm something, having figured out that the woman in the photograph had a child who would have been born shortly after the accident. He asks for information, and that leads to Gun-woo, who explains to Mr. Gong that he knows the basics of his parents’ relationship.
But he doesn’t know about the Hae-shil connection until Mr. Gong tells him, and his immediate decision is to keep it from his brother, who is, after all, unconnected to Gun-woo’s father. If Gun-woo leaves, there’s nothing to link them together.
But Mr. Gong informs him that Dad has resurfaced, and it’s not likely this’ll blow over uneventfully.
As diving class wraps up for the day, the others gather around to ask Jung-joo about meeting the mayor’s family, all wink-wink-nudge-nudge about the budding romance. She remains quiet but uneasy about their assumptions, and when Wook shows up, they scatter quickly to allow the couple to be alone. Wook congratulates her on her catch today and invites her to drink with the others, since he’s treating. She agrees, but touches her forehead to note with dismay that she’s not “hot” for Wook.
Jung-geun introduces Hae-shil to his sister (formally, at least) over lunch at the resort. Noona is grudging but goes with it, while over a few tables away, Gun-woo listens to the friendly bickering with a heavy heart, feeling burdened. He’d been invited to the meal but can’t bring himself to join them, and while the others wonder at his lateness, he gets up and leaves. The only one who notices is Ji-won, who sees through a window inside.
And thus leads to the predicted outcome: Gun-woo decides to leave Jeju. He’ll leave Warm & Cozy behind and return to his wandering lifestyle from before, and asks Mr. Gong to convey a message to his father, who happens to be listening around the corner: “Don’t appear.” Even hearing that Dad means well, Gun-woo says not to approach the people he loves, and Gun-woo will enable everyone to cut that unlucky tie.
Gun-woo returns home in a heavy mood, not responding to Poong-san’s invitation to join the villagers for drinks. Poong-san argues that they’ll all be rooting for the mayor to win her over and he can’t counter that alone, and Gun-woo should make sure to go to be with Jung-joo.
Gun-woo does make his way down to the party, though he keeps out of sight and at a distance, watching with forlorn eyes. He thinks of everything they’ve been through and how he awakened to his feelings for her, and says, “Jung-joo-ya, I have to run away from here. Will you… go with me?”
COMMENTS
To answer my question from up top, I do actually think it’s better to be a noble idiot than a plain ol’ garden-variety idiot, because even though we’ve long established around these parts that noble idiocy is ineffectual and aggravating, at least one’s motives are understandable. When Gun-woo was mocking Jung-joo’s feelings or dangling for Ugh or weirdly tonedeaf to his own heart, it was actively difficult to understand him as a character, as a person born of this earth, as someone we were meant to like and root for.
So with his recent turnaround, I’m not only glad because it kicks the romance up a notch (and wow, did Yoo Yeon-seok turn up that sizzle to scorching), but because I’m relieved to have a character whose motivations I understand. Even if they’re misguided and simplistic. I’ve been bored out of my mind with this parental storyline all series long, but at least now it affects our characters directly, and as an added bonus, there’s no twin-incest misunderstanding. (Funny how that’s a valid concern in a Korean drama, eh?)
For what it’s worth, I did appreciate the exploration of Gun-woo’s family issues—namely, his lack of family and rootedness that spills over even the parts of his life that aren’t readily obviously connected to it. For instance, the discovery that his devotion to Ji-won was more of an intellectual decision (…however without intellect that decision was). I don’t doubt that he did genuinely like her at one point, and maybe their long history made him able to overlook all of her (many, many) obvious flaws, because there’s at least a long-standing fondness there. But if he was determined to preserve his feelings out of a deep-seated, perhaps unconscious, desire to prove his worth, to show that he’s a better man than his father… well, things make a lot more sense.
It’s a shame, of course, that this wasn’t revealed earlier while I still had a shot of giving a damn about the Ji-won angle, or at least early enough to preempt a lot of my internal tirades against Gun-woo’s poopyheadedness. Family and loneliness and feeling lost in the world—those are powerful things, and would that the drama played them out to greater narrative effect. I would have given up so many Ji-won scenes (ALL of the Ji-won scenes! I know, it would be such a sacrifice) to have spent more time exploring how Gun-woo’s peripatetic adulthood was actually born of his childhood loneliness, and not just, you know, because he’s a lazy scamp with lots of charm.
In fact, I do wish the whole angle with Wook’s family in this episode had been played out longer, because (1) it enriches the themes I just outlined, and (2) it would even the rivalry a bit, giving Wook an edge in one aspect that really mattered. And I did feel my heart pinch when Gun-woo said he couldn’t offer Jung-joo the family she’s always yearned for, that he loves her enough to want that for her sake rather than seeing it as a point of similarity between them.
In any case, I’m super relieved that Gun-woo stepped it up big-time this week, not just because it allows me to connect with him, but also because it allows me to connect with Jung-joo. Kang So-ra has been noticeably great all series long in grounding this character and making her relatable (which is so important, because if she didn’t have that talent, I’m sure I’d have been beyond frustrated with Jung-joo on top of everyone else), but only now do I feel like Gun-woo is ready to match her. Obviously they were adorable before too, but emotionally I get that spark now—and with Yoo Yeon-seok turning up the heat full-force, I feel invested in a way I could only hope for earlier. I know we’re in for a stretch of pain and sacrifice and probably separation and that’s going to drive me nutso, but if we’re going to have to live through that bout of frustration, I’m glad that I at least feel that the romance is on the same page now, and that the connection is strong enough to outlast the dreaded angst. Though really, would it be so terrible to have everyone decide to live their happiest lives and just be adorable and cheery for the last couple episodes?
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1 calicali
June 18, 2015 at 8:08 PM
Wookie in drag. That is all <3
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Haru
June 18, 2015 at 8:45 PM
His eyes are so beautiful x3 Good lawd he was so hot in Fashion King. He made me feel so bad for him when he said he shouldn't have left :( Its too bad that Gun-woo has such sizzling chemistry with our Jung-joo~ poor Wookie doesn't stand a chances :(
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amie
June 19, 2015 at 1:57 AM
LOL scene courtesy of Wookie. but the sweet scenes, I have to say came from Hae Shil and her black pearl. the morning after when she woke up with him by her side is just too cute. and her complimenting the sister being the white pearl sister of the black pearl, already won the other over.
Ah,Jiwon, what is she still doing here,really. ah, yes, still looking for a rich guy to marry, that bitch has no shame. i wonder what happened to her engagement before, maybe the guy found out that she is just after his money and dumped her?
Geun woo and Jung joo, oh, the push and pull, but can't blame the girl for being cautious and trying to lean toward the other who seems real with his intentions but we all know it's not much of a contest.
just as the title suggests, everything in this part of jeju is warm and cozy, the place, the food,ah the good food and most of all, its people... makes my heart smile.
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Schmazel
June 19, 2015 at 4:29 AM
Mayor Wook and Noona Hee-ra have beautiful light brown eyes. I could just stare at them all day...
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM
He really has the most gorgeous eye colour, when they shoot him with the light in his face he's absolutely spectacular.
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Onion
June 18, 2015 at 9:10 PM
Wookie's second brother looks awfully like Michael Jackson ROFL
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nicnac
June 19, 2015 at 10:02 AM
+1.
Why is he beautiful though? like, for real for real...
SN: This from the same person who played a thug who tortured a woman with a blowdyer in "Ajusshi"...
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 9:37 AM
lol yeah, all the roles I've ever seen Kim Sung-oh in have him playing either batshit crazy (I cheered when Won Bin tied him to that chair in Ajushhi) or an absolute buffoon (My PS Partner). This is the first where he gets to break the pattern and show us just how good he'd be as a romantic lead.
I mean, I totally root for Gun-woo and Jung-joo but let's just say two episodes ago, our Mayor was making it really hard. Now I just want him to actually find a nice girl for real, to introduce to his massive clone family (maybe a cameo from Shin Mina or Gong Hyo-jin?)
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2 nonski
June 18, 2015 at 8:08 PM
yay! thanks so much for the recaps JB! off to read!
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3 songsong
June 18, 2015 at 8:27 PM
Thank you for te recap!
This episode reminded me why I love YYS. I hope he gets the girl this time especially its the charming & beautiful Kang Sora!
Now that BGW realized & admitted his love for LJJ, I hope we can get some real warm & cozy & even hot moments between the OTP! Well, they only have 4 more episodes to do that haha.
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4 whatis
June 18, 2015 at 8:32 PM
yay for recaps. I skipped all jiwon scenes... thanks for filling in the holes!!!
I feel soooo bad for the Mayor. :( I don't care if it's cheesy as heck, I would like him to have a girl at the end of the series! Can't stand it watching him be all sad and pooped.
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yayabean
June 18, 2015 at 8:55 PM
I totally agree. The Mayor deserves a girl at the end of the series. How can someone in Jeju not be interested in him?! He is sweet, he has a job, he is caring and not too forget handsome. Ugh!
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h311ybean
June 19, 2015 at 6:39 AM
Gun-woo's noona seems available, but I'm not yet sold on her for the mayor....
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 9:38 AM
Noooo he deserves better! I wonder if the Hong sisters can pull out a last cameo favour and get one of their former leading ladies to pair off with our Wookie....
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5 fgb4877
June 18, 2015 at 8:36 PM
Dear Javabeans, thanks for the Recap. I haven't seen the episode yet, but it seems that Gun-Woo's growth will be fueled for lots of angst.
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6 heyitschristina
June 18, 2015 at 8:42 PM
I feel like the Hong sisters may have lost their touch :(
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nami
June 19, 2015 at 2:13 AM
It's been a while they lost their touch or I'd rather say it's a miss or a hit with their dramas (at least for me)...after Big, I promised myself to never watch one of their dramas again (Big was such a dud, particularly the ending that left me so pissed at them grrr)... unfortunately I relented, I fell for YYS's charms (swoony and talented to boot) and the rest is history *sigh* The drama is okay, nothing to write home about, typical formula that could have worked 10 years ago but feel so outdated nowadays. Though I'm a relatively new fan of YYS, I feel so disappointed for his first main leading drama, he deserves so much better imo...well he still manages to deliver though his role give him little to no opportunity to display/showcase his talent, that's a pity :(
I can only hope he'll land a better role for his next drama (if there's one, might as well stick to movies)
Still, I will finish this one (for the cast's sake) but this time I swear Hong sis won't get me to sit before one of their dramas ever again (may I turn into a frog if I waver one more time)
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heyitschristina
June 19, 2015 at 12:33 PM
Yea I should have known better after the mess that was Big *sigh* I feel like Warm & Cozy is a bit lazier in their writing though. For example the fact that both the leads parents conviently died and how the novelist lady has to pretty much spell out what is going on in her various conversations
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abc
June 19, 2015 at 2:29 PM
to me it's just a typical Hong sisters drama. it feels like ppl keep expecting something more because of all the glorifying on their dramas. Not that the dramas are bad, it's just their style imo. i actually like this amidst all the dramas nowadays that try hard to impress(not that trying hard to impress is bad either). this is like something i'm familiar with, a comfort food, befitting the title warm and cozy.
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 9:45 AM
Ironically, 11-12 are actually the episodes that made me feel like they recovered a little of it. At least things happen and there isn't the sense of time being wasted, thought they should really get rid of the novelist lady, she's useless for any dramatic purposes other than exposition and I find her butter-won't-melt-in-my-mouth expression annoying as hell.
It's just a shame that it took this long to actually rev this drama into something approaching second gear. It's a disservice to both leads, who have talent and chemistry in spades. At least the script is making some use of those now. I know the feel of W&C is meant to be pleasant and lazy, but it could have really done with more sparkle in so many ways.
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7 Catali7
June 18, 2015 at 8:45 PM
Seriously. There's only a few episodes left. Can't we just have them filled with cute? Please? I think we viewers who are still watching should be rewarded, and what better way than to skip the separation and angst and go right to the happy and adorable? Please? With sugar and sprinkles on top? :(
It doesn't feel like we will have been given enough couple time between our two leads if a separation and all the family angst is shoved into the last few episodes.
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Onion
June 18, 2015 at 9:44 PM
I agree. I'd rather have 4 episodes of sizzling romance between YYS and KSR. Forget the logic and story line. Just fill it with cute! I hope murderer daddy agrees to leave quietly.
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Catali7
June 18, 2015 at 10:10 PM
Right? I hope he just says , "Yeah, I'll respect my son's wishes and stay out of his life and this town," and then GW and JJ go skipping off merrily into the sunset and they all live happily ever after.
Is that so much to ask? :)
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Marthe
June 19, 2015 at 2:56 AM
I agree! Enough of the not so interesting drama. Let's have more 'warm and cozy' feels for GW and JJ please. They have great chemistry.~
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Onion
June 19, 2015 at 5:27 PM
Maaaaybe not quite skip off merrily into the sunset too quickly. These two beautiful people live in the same restaurant and practically share a room... Let's see those curtains come down... Ya know what I mean LOL
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Catali7
June 19, 2015 at 8:20 PM
Lol Onion! I had hoped that the curtains coming down was implied when I said skipping off merrily into the sunset... And if it wasn't, I most DEFINITELY want a do over. :)
A scene from one of my favorite old movies, "It Happened One Night," came to mind when you mentioned the curtains falling lol. I'm blowing trumpets (reference from that movie) and screaming happily, "Mr. Gorbachev... *hem hem* I mean, Hong sisters!! TEAR DOWN THOSE CURTAINS!!"
Myvilvil
June 19, 2015 at 12:58 AM
I want adorable and cheery, warm and cozy, hot and sexy for the last four episodes...
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YYS over flowers
June 19, 2015 at 8:38 AM
I've really liked YYS since Answer Me. He and Kang Sora could totally go the Healer route a la JCW and PMY and playfully tease, kiss and snuggle through the last four episodes. Rawr. Buy honestly I think that's hoping too much from the Hong Sisters.
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Catali7
June 19, 2015 at 8:21 PM
ME TOO
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Apple Pie
June 20, 2015 at 11:52 AM
Oh Yes, there shd be more romance between YYS and KSR, gave them more couple time Please Please Please don't waste time okay ?
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8 yayabean
June 18, 2015 at 8:50 PM
Thank you for the recap. I liked this ep better than ep 11. On ep 11 the return of the "con" mom was unnecessary and I was almost expecting something similar in this episode but with Gun-Woo's father instead. I'm glad that was not the case.
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9 elvira
June 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM
Now I want to see the rest of Wook's family!
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10 jee
June 18, 2015 at 9:04 PM
I have a questions regarding Hong Sisters works to all you who are fans.
I do admit that they DO produce some of the most memorable and adorable pairings in kdrama history and such awesome jokes. I;ll give them that.
BUT, their writing style - where people just refuse to say what they mean like normal people do, always circling around in metaphors that are super forced most of the time. it makes me so frustrated because it feels so unorganic, like they just try their darnedest to sound so smart-ass that it loses its root that makes me sympathetic to what they're saying.
Sadly, this drama has been one prime example where their tendency to do that becomes ever glaring. Like that mayor scene in ep 11 where he asked JJ to come with him to the flower garden, he couldn't just say he wants to go out with her and has to ask her in the most frustratingly roundabout way? And GW also did this, where he just says one bad metaphor after another about not wanting her to leave (balloons, flowers, treat you nice, contract). It drives me so batty because had they spoken straightly, it will simply flow much better with the story. Like, I get they like their puns, but they just go overboard that it actually corrupted the story's emotional center.
And this is not solely on W&C alone - Masters Sun, YAB, My Girl - the worst parts of those dramas are the never ending metaphors the characters use to sorta not-confess when they really do.
So, really, can you explain the appeal of their metaphor-loving writing?
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Aigoooo
June 18, 2015 at 10:08 PM
It's their style. Sometimes it works (The Greatest Love) and sometimes it doesn't (Big). It can be a mental exercise trying to decipher the metaphors if you are not used to their writing. They just don't like going the direct route where the boy says I love you and the girl says I love you back. I think they tend to go overboard on the metaphors in their later dramas just because it has become their signature style.
Personally, I think they use it as filler dialogue just so they can stretch a scene. hehe
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eunchans
June 18, 2015 at 10:35 PM
I'm so with you. I do appreciate some emotional honesty, dramas where people are straight with each other and stop talking round and round in circles because they can't say what they truly mean (for no apparent reason). This really frustrated me in Master's Sun in particular, and basically really dragged the show down for me.
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juniper
June 18, 2015 at 11:08 PM
First of all, I would suggest that this is a drama that very few people are finding amusing or enjoyable. It's certainly in their bottom three for me, which is a very very low place to be. If you look at the Hong sisters from a traditional critical perspective, it's obvious they're crap and they're never going to measure up to the likes of classic trendies like Kim Sam-soon, let alone more serious and complicated fare. But I feel like that's kind of missing the point with them. I find the Hong sisters' complete lack of reverence for honest, organic emotional narratives refreshing because the bar has been set so low for trendy canon the last 5-10 years or so, that it's nicer to see a drama that has fun not trying versus one that fakes it and plods along miserably (miraculous exceptions like AM 97 notwithstanding). In 90% of trendies, we're being asked to take everything seriously--including paint-by-numbers characterizations, insipid thematic territory that rarely ventures to have a point of view, and a literally lifeless side cast that exist solely to a) act as sounding boards, b) get in the way of the main pairing, or c) become a comedic B couple. In the Hong sisters' peak years (~2009-2011), their dramas were almost a deconstruction of the genre. On the surface, each drama is the same old tired story, and sure enough, when they entertain any narrative ambition, they fail harder than any other trendy. However, there's no need to look that far, because it's not the point. I could almost see those three shows as post-genre success stories--were it not for their overwrought third acts that inevitably lift the illusion, complete with egregious tonal shifts (a tendency thankfully toned down from the infuriating bait-and-switch comedy and melo that characterized Delightful Girl, but still). Also, there's the overwhelming sense that it would be giving the Hong sisters too much credit.
Anyway, take any of one of their shows from that period--You're Beautiful, My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, and Greatest Love--and you start to see what I'm talking about. Second leads are cheerfully disregarded as emotionally insincere storytelling mechanisms, and explicitly utilized as such when expedient (look at UEE's character in You're Beautiful for a good example); side characters are walking jokes; their set-ups are always undisguisedly obvious trope mines; and romance is distilled to its puerile essence (they're OTP but we have sixteen episodes to fill, so sit tight), relegated to fittingly dumb-as-bricks object metaphors, and buried in a magic mountain of witty wordplay, zany slapstick, and general ridiculousness. Instead of carefully constructed narrative build-up, they simply talk in glorious loopedy-loops around the romance for a good 12 episodes before they finally give in. Structure? Who cares! If you've seen 5 trendies, you know what's going on; it's not about the journey anymore. And it's a wonderful, refreshing ride, being in the...
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juniper
June 18, 2015 at 11:09 PM
...hands of someone who presumably gives zero shits (pardon my French). All pretenses are dropped: of course the male lead is a functionally retarded chaebol with the emotional life of a rock! Of course the female lead is a long-suffering Candy caught in his orbit! He's rich and smart, and how! She's poor and good, and how! Now watch these two bicker and circle each other (and bring out each others' most petty and ridiculous thoughts and urges) in some kind of heightened reality of rom com canon. To use possibly the craziest, most impossibly honest character they've made as an example--almost all male leads are some stripe of Dokko Jin (handsome chaebol, popular with women but mysteriously above it all himself, and by virtue of some magical coincidence in love for the first time with some uglied up manic pixie candy girl), but the Hong sisters are the only ones that drop the act and treat Dokko Jin like the one-dimensional crazypants he is--an adult man unable to recognize physiological signs of love (gee, why is my heart rate climbing?), compulsively wooing a woman who disgusts him (the chicken and flower metaphors; the scene where he physically musters his strength to drive past her, but literally can't do it and just sits there making faces; the auction for her shoes, etc). You see what I'm saying?
Okay, so obviously you didn't ask for an essay...guess you got one anyway, sorry haha. But yeah. That's the kind of thing that sets them apart, in my eyes. The trouble is, the farther and farther they wander off the reservation, the more it seems like they bumped into a winning formula through sheer dumb luck, rather than any kind of intentional genre deconstruction. Which sort of spoils the fun, a bit, sure, but could never ruin it entirely.
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korini
June 19, 2015 at 2:12 AM
I admire you in-debth analysis. I suppose the point was to explain why you DON'T like Hong Sisters writing. Your arguments are quite valid. Hong Sisters do not write average rom-com and frankly I found shocking the "unanimous" Master's Sun hysteria. Their leading ladies are tired, from burdensome family backgrounds, inexperienced in love. A lonely has-been in Greatest love, a gumiho, a loser insignificant teacher in Big, an orphan in Deligthful, a ghost-seeing unfortunate creature, a nun... lol... Even in Fantasy Couple where the roles were probably reversed, the leading man is a guy raising his orphan nephews.
The leading male roles are as a whole inmature due each one to his his own particular circumstances. Dokko Gin, for example, whom you mention has spent most of his life in the hospital. Their path to maturity passes from their romantic choice and the responsibilty they assume for that choice.
Hong Sisters are not romantic like the known melo k-drama writers. They write about seemingly mismatching couples. They explain a bit cynically that a rich guy who falls in love with a poor girl is not the prince charming taking pity on a lovely damsel, but a weird dude who has lucky enough to find a woman who can tolerate him without strangling him. They don't re-write the Cinderella story. If anything, they re-write Candy.
The second leads issue is a different story. It's the usual k-drama technical problem. Which actors are available? Will they be some trendy idol? Are they any good? Will they act at all? Will their roles be shortened, changed? I can't blame them in that, because I've seen much worse.
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RoseTyler
June 19, 2015 at 6:17 AM
Agree with both of you!!
songsong
June 19, 2015 at 10:06 PM
I am a fan of metaphors so I love their writing.
I can see so much of it in Warm & Cozy.
Love the conversations here especially those of YYS & KR.
Only thing missing is skinship haha.
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Lixie
June 21, 2015 at 11:11 AM
I love the metaphors, for the record, there are a lot of people that do talk like that so it never feels forced to me.
Besides there are plenty of honest moments you just haven't been paying attention, I'd say there is more sincere talks in their dramas than in most other kdramas.
Take Jung Joo for instance, she is a pretty blunt character, her confession was one of the most straight in kdramas. The girl in Master's Sun had a lot of moments like that too. Geun Woo isn't a person that talks in the way you would have liked, he is into power games and mind control, he is childish, lonely, playful, he would be acting completely out of character if he was more the romantic hero people would have liked him to be. :)
You don't like their style, it's ok, but it does happen in real life too. :)
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11 Mikee
June 18, 2015 at 9:16 PM
Leave ? Leave the person who finally really loves him? Leave JJ, leave what makes him a better person, a good man ? Leave when he finally found his happiness ? Nah, he won't --- he can't, even if he wanted to.
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12 samsooki
June 18, 2015 at 9:18 PM
It is actually a little odd.
KSR is actuallyy fav person in the drama by far, but her character is practically senseless. And I mean that literally. She has no eyes, no ears and no nose. She cannot detect anyone or anything. She is so bad, she would be almost in line to be a detective lieutenant in a police force, ready to be hypnotized by some sexy psychotherapist or other. Such a character is so out of the realm of possibility that it makes me antsy to fast forward even though KSR is my fav person in this drama.
Geunwoo on the other hand... is not unbelievable. He is totally believable. Except I dislike his character too and his range is far more limited than KSR's range.
All in all, I just want this drama to be over with.
There are no bad guys in this drama, there is no more tension remaining anywhere in this drama, and all that remains is for some loose ends to be tied back up.
How many more outdoor soju drinking scenes will be required before this interminable drama ends.... sigh.
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calicali
June 18, 2015 at 9:34 PM
Could be worse... This could be Big 2.0
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YYS over flowers
June 19, 2015 at 8:09 AM
LOL. So true. Be thankful it's not!
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fgb4877
June 19, 2015 at 8:44 PM
Drama is still not over, so don't feel reassured yet ;) .
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KDaddict?JCW
June 19, 2015 at 12:37 AM
And you haven't even mentioned the extremely annoying and unbelievable blogger couple! I want to smash my computer whenever I see them, even more than when I see Jiwon. It's such a cheap, low, lazy, uncreative writing technique to let some "writer" do your exposition and big reveals.
Urghh....
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13 Z
June 18, 2015 at 9:21 PM
This is the stupidest excuse for Noble Idiocy I've ever seen. I'm not here for any of this foolishment!
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14 Aigoooo
June 18, 2015 at 9:31 PM
I guess we will be heading into angst infested waters next episode. Gun Woo going noble idiot just because his father killed Hae Shil's husband seems a bit lame and that conflict also seems old fashioned. I get that he is doing it for the sake of his older brother's happiness but him running away does not mean the link will be broke. He just won't be around if/when she finds out. Plus, inheriting a blood relative's sin does not compute for me.
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15 Ellyn@20
June 18, 2015 at 9:54 PM
The OTP really takes forever to be together.. But still, I love them just as much because they are meant to be!
Even though I can understand why JJ doesn't believe in GW's confession, my heart still hurts for GW because he sincerely means what he says to JJ. Btw, GW's second confession to JJ is just too swoon-worthy! <3
JJ, please give GW another chance. You will, right??
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songsong
June 19, 2015 at 10:09 PM
Yoo Yeon Seok just nailed the BGW character!
Of course LJJ will give him another chance, won't you Kang Sora?
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16 kookicookie
June 18, 2015 at 10:22 PM
looooove this music
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bugdocmom
June 18, 2015 at 10:28 PM
Me too - when will the OST/ album be released? Or is it available? Does anyone here know??
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August
June 18, 2015 at 10:57 PM
I can count on Ha Neul-Hae & Kong Bo-Kyung's OST Butterfly to do the job of distracting me from my frustrations with Warm and Cozy as a drama.
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songsong
June 19, 2015 at 10:10 PM
Yes all the 5 OST are great!
Love each & every one of them.
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Apple Pie
June 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM
Right , all the 5 OST and those music , melody so good !
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17 bugdocmom
June 18, 2015 at 10:27 PM
Funny and heartbreaking episode all rolled into one! Brilliantly done, Hong sisters! BGW is getting a taste of what he did to LJJ. And I don't blame her for holding on to her doubts- she's been burned by BGW before so it's realistic - but oh so painful to watch!
Ahh the comic relief - the Mayor's family -- loved it!! Totally unexpected and pleasantly surprised.
KSR and YYS - what a visually stunning OTP. They are simply adorable together... The stylist(s) of this show is a genius. He/she/they make everyone look like their best selves.. Awesome!
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songsong
June 19, 2015 at 10:11 PM
Totally agree KSR & YYS are visually stunning & to top it all both great actors!
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Apple Pie
June 20, 2015 at 12:04 PM
Yes , they could give us more actually, however, the limitation of the drama writing.
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 9:51 AM
yes, the Hong sisters really cast the perfect pair as leads, and I was so happy because both are actors that people have been waiting to see in leading man/leading lady roles after they stole the show in dramas where they weren't the main leads (Chilbongie!).
And their chemistry is fantastic and adorable. But please, can they just exploit that chemistry and not force a Noble Idiocy Separation? I really wish the script had been faster-paced and just tighter in general, they deserved a better drama to lead up.
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 10:51 AM
Though I want to have a stern talk with whoever is doing Kang Sora's makeup.
She's too beautiful to be subjected to that purply/mauve lipstick that is ALL WRONG for her skin tone, jeez did these people not see Misaeng? And don't even get me started on that sloppy gradient lip application that covers half her mouth with concealer and the other half with horrible lipstick in tones that don't suit her.
Or, for that matter, the weird grey-toned foundation that doesn't appear to match her skin at all. Whoever is sponsoring the makeup on this drama needs to examine their life choices.
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18 Lunatic4KD
June 18, 2015 at 10:28 PM
I'm not too worried about much protracted idiocy on Gun Woo's part because the set-up is a LONG long way from reaching the worst case of noble idiocy I've ever seen - that had me shrieking army computer a year ago - and that was Angel Eyes when she retreated to the island. That drama was becoming my number one favorite until it was totally ruined.....SO, Gun Woo - go ahead and go for a bit, or TRY to go. I'll enjoy the angst and the cuteness as they snap back together. I must say I do love his intense sincerity in his love confessions...they are so hot we can feel the heat. Warm and Cozy is likely to melt into the pool of forgettable dramas when it finally ends but at least we are well entertained right now. Me?? Counting the days until another episode of Mask!
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Lunatic4KD
June 18, 2015 at 10:29 PM
Make that...'shrieking at my computer'...
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August
June 18, 2015 at 11:00 PM
"Counting the days until another episode of Mask!"
You're not the only one. It seems like Wednesdays & Thursdays can't come fast enough right now.
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Adal
June 19, 2015 at 5:17 AM
+ 1000000
Mask really is the best thing about Wednesdays and Thursdays isn't it? :-) Sorry to hijack another drama's thread.
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h311ybean
June 19, 2015 at 6:41 AM
I agree! As much as I love the Hong Sisters and YYS, every week I look forward to Mask more than I do W&C.
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19 August
June 18, 2015 at 10:44 PM
Kdrama fairies it's time to give Kim Sung-Oh a great leading man role. He's certainly paid his dues in dramas and movies.
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 9:53 AM
^this! If Gun-woo was played by anyone but Yoo Yeon-seok, I'd be ready to reach into the screen and make Jung-joo and the Mayor get together, he's just adorable, lookalike family and all.
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20 sephora013
June 18, 2015 at 11:09 PM
For a moment there I thought this would be episode without ugh as they weren't showing her at the beginning, guess not,
Aw poor Mayor, it really broke my heart when he was sitting all alone.
I just hope this noble idiocy won't last for too long, sigh.
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21 Mandy
June 18, 2015 at 11:54 PM
I can't wait for Jung-Joo to just find the necklace and somehow find Gun-woo as well before he goes on his noble idiocy spree. Gah, I hate that so much! Why can't he just stay??? Okay, forget it. I know the answer but it doesn't make it less infuriating. He's only coming around now and justifying my ridiculous undying love for him. Why take him away from Jung-joo?? Arrggh!
That aside, OH MY GOODNESS! Yoo Yeon-seok is fire! He just brings the hotness, rawr-factor and sexiness up 100 notches. He is so made for these kind of romances; I melted. Come to think of it, the noble idiocy is totally justified if Gun-woo really asks Jung-joo to come with him and they escape doing sexy things together. If that happens, I won't complain even if the HS drag it for another 20 episodes.
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songsong
June 19, 2015 at 10:15 PM
Oh dear please don't make me drool...Yoo Yeon Seok & Kang Sora doing sexy things together, a big thumbs up to HS & MBC if that happens LOL.
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22 yings
June 19, 2015 at 12:03 AM
Oh GW...please... Please do not be the noble idiot... It's time to be honest and truthful...and tell JJ to her face that you need her and you want her to run away with you.
And yes, Earnest Mayor deserves a good girl at the end of this ride.. Hong sisters, please do not disappoint!
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23 riarallahssi
June 19, 2015 at 12:06 AM
The boy who cried ji-won. LOL
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fgb4877
June 19, 2015 at 2:12 PM
...Where!!! *blood pressure rises* .
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risa
June 20, 2015 at 12:44 AM
That got a chuckle out of me, too. As did the fact that JB used "poopyheadedness" and "peripatetic" in the same paragraph. If only the drama were as well-written as the recaps...
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24 little-muffin
June 19, 2015 at 12:12 AM
This show doesn't really have a smart plot but YYS and KSR are really winning it for me.
I enjoyed the journey of Gun-woo a lot. Or maybe it's just my love towards YYS. I'm so glued to the screen for him especially now that he's so decisive towards his feelings!
Gun-woo ah.. please don't just leave like that. You need to fight more for your happiness! No angst pleaaaaseee...
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Chesens
June 20, 2015 at 7:07 AM
I agree!
Sticking to this drama because of Yoo Yeon Seok! There is something about him that tickles me! Hehehe... I rooted for Chilbongi in Answer Me 1994 and when I read spoilers that he doesn't get the girl, I stopped watching it.
I was annoyed with GW in the past 2 episodes but the turn around this episode was nicely done! I love that once he realized that he likes JJ, he comes out to her straightforward and blunt.
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25 KDaddict?JCW
June 19, 2015 at 12:29 AM
OK, here comes the Big conflict, and I'm baffled.
My father killed my half-brother's brand new GF's husband before I was born. It is a given that I must flee into oblivion in order not to affect their happiness.
It must be a Korean thing. Cos I don't get it. Do you?
I asked my husband: If my father had killed your father b4 I was born, and u found out while we were dating, would u still marry me?
He said: What kind of nonsense is that?
I said: It's rampant in KDs.
He: And you like that enough to watch daily?
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Jon G.
June 19, 2015 at 1:41 AM
It doesn't make any sense in a western value system, of course.
But in those societies heavily influenced by the neo-Confucian social system, it has some kind of logic to it. You are not just you as a person, all your social relations are considered part of your identity. And the core social relations are the relations to your parents. In a way, you ARE your parents. That's why you are responsible for your parents' deeds (in good and bad) even if they did them before you were born.
Many K-dramas actually contrast the more "modern", western-style concept of personal responsibility with the more traditional neo-Confucian concept of fixed social roles. And you will find arguments for the advantages and disadvantages for both world views in dramas.
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KDaddict?JCW
June 19, 2015 at 3:10 AM
I never watch KDs from a western perspective, and think that those who do often miss the pt that dramas are necessarily a cultural experience.
I'm very aware of the Confucian and neo-C value systems and their holds on some societies. 'm baffled precisely bcos I don't think that this "My father killed my half-brother’s brand new GF’s husband before I was born and therefore I MUST go" would be a given even in Asian societies. Even keeping in mind their C influence, this is too much to stomach. ?
And then if finally the writers resolve the conflict by having sb else kill HS's husband, and thereby absolving GW of any guilt, like it's the only way that it makes OK for him to stay, I'm just going to think very poorly of these writers' world view, in addition to their writing skills.
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fantasy
June 19, 2015 at 2:49 AM
the society I belong to,here if my father killed your father before I was born there would be some hesitation but it is not something impossible to get married. In case of Gun Woo, he does not have to flee or cut connection with his brother but it will still be awkward between him and Hae Shil, if she wont accept Gun Woo and because Hae Shil is the would be wife of his brother, hyung will also be affected.
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26 Tweetie
June 19, 2015 at 1:21 AM
I finally have time to catch up with dramas, but as much as I love Hong sisters and the leads. I think I am definitely giving this one a miss. Was so looking forward to this too. Sigh
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27 anna anna
June 19, 2015 at 3:00 AM
I use to hate our male lead for being silly but now our female lead is taking that honor. Despite the confession, she scoffs him off and does not take it seriously. Now she is misleading our poor mayor.
I am sure the father is not a bad guy, hopefully all misunderstanding will be cleared in the end :/
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YYS over flowers
June 19, 2015 at 8:29 AM
I don't think she is misleading the mayor. She is as always sincere and honest with him that she doesn't like him the way he likes her.
But he seems to have stepped out of character due to jealousy and desperation in trying to win her heart when he knows her feelings for BGW are now reciprocated. Does Wook liking Jung Joo justify him lying to her that he didn't witness BGW with Jung Joo when she drunk with his public declaration to the bar owner? At least he feels guilty about it.
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Apple Pie
June 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM
I feel sorry that the Mayer lied to JJ ! Don't likr him this way now !
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 9:57 AM
well, like Gun-woo himself said, he's trolled her enough times, was trolling even when he kissed her, and she just doesn't trust him with her heart any more. So of course when he does confess for real, Jung-joo's not going to take him seriously, especially when she's trying to get over him.
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28 Khule WY
June 19, 2015 at 4:01 AM
Wookie looked beautiful as a woman,his eyes, so pretty,wow Korea the men do really look more beautiful than some women.
Always loved this guy ever since secret garden,I just want him to get bigger and better leading roles.
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29 lifoser
June 19, 2015 at 5:26 AM
Omoooo poor Geun Woo, he feels so lonely..jung joo, RUN to hiiiiim.
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30 alienshore
June 19, 2015 at 6:53 AM
Was anyone else dying laughing when Kim Sung Oh came out in all those disguises? I don't think I've laughed that hard at a Kdrama in a long time. He seems like such a quirky guy, so I just love that they did that! That is one of the highlights of the show for me! If Geun Woo was being played by anyone other than Yoo Yeon Seok I would be suffering some serious 2nd lead syndrome. As it is, I would pick the mayor if it were me, but YYS is just sooooo darn swoony that I cannot fault Jung Joo for falling for him.
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Apple Pie
June 20, 2015 at 12:26 PM
Oh yes, actually, I am the one also dying laughing when he came out in thise 3 different guys.
However, he lied to JJ and misleaded JJ.
eps 12 is good enough that GW told JJ the feeling in 3 shots
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pogo
June 21, 2015 at 10:02 AM
Agreed with everything in your comment - YYS is the only thing preventing a serious case of Second Lead Syndrome here. But he really is too swoony, that scene where he told her he wasn't 'warm and cozy' anymore just had be fanning myself because it was that hot.
(and Kim Sung-oh as the mayor's family had me dead of laughter by the time his 'noona' came out, it's one of the show's best gags)
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31 Mioko
June 19, 2015 at 10:03 AM
I think its pretty good episode than others at w&c I too don't want to see another noble idiot! I really don't like noble idiocies in kdrama.oh because its too frustrating.let's wait see the next episode. Drama don't disappoint me!! By the what's the ratings of this drama??? ;-)
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32 evw09
June 19, 2015 at 3:08 PM
1) Casting: This whole drama is an exercise in good casting.
2) Writing: It really feels like the Hong Sisters are fumbling their way through this drama. I don't see the vision so while the ending will probably be warm and fuzzy (I know), it'll be lacking in substance. I'm worried that the audience will be left with no real resolution. At this point, we can't really believe that Gun Woo and Jung Joo will be able to have a functional relationship. We're 12 episodes in, in a 16 episode show, and our OTP still isn't an OTP. They can't even get together, let alone communicate. So any conclusion for this couple will be rushed and forced.
The reason being is our writers wasted so much time initially. But to the first point, thank goodness for good casting because our leads will be able to pull off whatever half-cocked ending the Hong Sisters throw at them.
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songsong
June 19, 2015 at 10:20 PM
I totally agree with you, the casting is fantastic. From the 2 wonderful leads YYS & KSR to all the supporting cast.
Kudos to the excellent cast!
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Apple Pie
June 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM
Right , good casting just help that much lol ! Anyhow , it becomes a bit wasting .
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33 katy
June 19, 2015 at 3:21 PM
cute all of them
i like this actress , good acting ,
natural look
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34 Z
June 19, 2015 at 5:54 PM
Someone help me out with something... Where did Jung Joo come from?
I mean, if her dad is Hae-shil's dead husband and Gun-woo's mom was pregnant with him when the accident happened, that means Jung-joo's mom was also pregnant then (because they are "twins")... when did he have time to impregnate her? Was he cheating on Hae-shil? Did everyone on the writing staff just forget about how the birds and the bees actually work?
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daydreamer11
June 19, 2015 at 6:14 PM
If you watch the show you'll know that JJ's dad is not Hae-shil's dead husband.
HS's dead husband passed away 30 years ago, while JJ's dad raised JJ but he passed away when she was young (so obviously they are 2 different persons).
JJ's dad + JJ's mom and GW's dad + GW's mom were 2 set of couples who toured Jeju together to have fun and date about 30 years ago.
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Z
June 19, 2015 at 6:21 PM
I thought the picture of the guy who Jung-joo says is her father was confirmed to be Hae-Shil's husband? I may have missed something because I'm a few weeks behind on actually watching the episodes (blame work and family).
Also, "If you watch the show you'll know" is SUUUUUper condescending. Nobody likes that.
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daydreamer11
June 19, 2015 at 6:57 PM
No, it was not confirmed that the guy in the photo was JJ's dad. When the blogger showed the photo to Mr. Gong, she was asking whether "the one who caused the accident (that killed HS's husband) was this guy?" but we were not given Mr. Gong's answer during that scene.
I'm sorry for it sounds condescending - maybe I worded it poorly but it was my first thought and reaction that you probably relied on the recaps only and missed out on the info, because if you watch the episodes you'll know it.
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daydreamer11
June 19, 2015 at 7:13 PM
*No, it was not confirmed that the guy in the photo was HS's dead husband.
Lol sorry I typed it wrongly
Z
June 19, 2015 at 11:35 PM
Oh, I see that makes no sense.
And no worries about the comment. Just remember that people can't read your tone over the internet.
35 bd5
June 20, 2015 at 3:27 AM
So basically, we've gone from Gun-woo being in "denial" to Jung-joo being in denial (but more so about GW's true feelings than her still having feelings for GW).
Still find the elder coupling more interesting and the whole "mystery"/makjang element silly and wholly unnecessary.
Poor Mayor Wook - called in sick b/c he was heartbroken and then JJ shows up wearing short shorts (but then proceeds to give him some false hope).
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36 tura
June 20, 2015 at 4:01 AM
“Right now, I’m hot.” can he say that? Poor JJ, he just keeps melting her. Love YYS so much
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Chesens
June 20, 2015 at 7:15 AM
Oh yes he can! And he must! To make up for all he has done in the past episodes!
GW is redeemed because of YYS' sexiness!
I was one of the Mayor-JJ shippers in the previous eps but he kinda lost a few points against GW when he lied to JJ the about GW picking her up when she was drunk. Not cool, man. Not cool.
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37 Apple Pie
June 20, 2015 at 12:46 PM
Originally, Major is so good to be a friend of JJ but he lied to JJ .
There are several shots felt so good for the eps 12. GW has said what shd be said to JW, and told JJ all his feeling toward JJ.
The rest of the eps pls give more romance time for both leads ! don't let them state apart ! don't waste time for the family's story. Finally, both leads shd pick a drama the writing is better then this one and both play the leads again , possible ?
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Apple Pie
June 20, 2015 at 1:02 PM
Just one thing to mention how sincere of the talk about the feeling express by temperature told by GW to JJ !!!
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38 faranak
June 20, 2015 at 2:28 PM
Temprature scene sooooooo HOT!!!! I almost died in yoo 's great acting and hottness! Thanks for recap
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39 Apple Pie
June 21, 2015 at 10:48 AM
Oh , also the scene JJ called taxi and GW asked why not called the one she likes !!!
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40 Ann
June 24, 2015 at 2:03 PM
I only watch the scenes where LJJ and BGW are together or when the adorable couple of Hyung and hae-shil is bickering. The story itself is not engaging.
P.s: it's my first comment . And am sooo excited to by a part of dramabeans community! ^_^
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41 Rai
June 24, 2015 at 5:26 PM
I just thought I must share the making of these two scenes
https://youtu.be/UVzefvKOp7E
https://youtu.be/lE5JKibpKc8
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Apple Pie
June 27, 2015 at 11:57 AM
these 2 BTS is very cutey , sometimes found that the BTS very attractive even ! I love to see both of YYS & KSR they are funny
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