Warm and Cozy: Episode 10
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Good news: Things get better! Not-as-good news: Better is a relative term. At least there’s more cuteness sprinkled into today’s episode, along with more decision-making, which keeps the frustration levels down, and our hero inches closer toward being able to express his feelings in a functional adult way. I suppose it’s a good sign that after living his whole life in a state of arrested development he’s starting to make strides, and feeling the sting of the consequences when you take things for granted, and those things decide they’ve had enough of that nonsense.
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EPISODE 10 RECAP
Town folk crowd into Warm & Cozy, giving Jung-joo the ol’ wink-and-nudge about her marrying the mayor. She tries to correct the misconception, but those ajummas are still keen on pushing the two together.
Poong-san marvels at the crowd and says it’s all because they think Jung-joo’s going to be the mayor’s wife, which makes Gun-woo snappish. Dude, you had your chance, buddy. You deserve to stew!
The sight of all that cash in the register makes Jung-joo happy, and Poong-san asks if she’s okay with the rumors. She figures she can’t do anything about them, while Poong-san plays the imp by telling her that Gun-woo doesn’t like it. Maaaaybe it’s because he dislikes being busy, or maybe it’s that he doesn’t want her being the mayor’s wife…
Jung-joo thinks back to Gun-woo’s emphatic declaration the other night, where he told her he was going to treat her even better now, and wonders what he meant by it. She goes to ask him that directly, and he replies honestly, “I don’t want you becoming the mayor’s wife. I have to treat you well for you to be my woman.” Wait… this is a fantasy, isn’t it? There’s no way real Gun-woo would be this mature.
Yuuuuup, Jung-joo snaps out of it and returns to earth. She marshals her nerves to ask the question, but she’s overcome with emotion and rushes at Gun-woo in a sudden back-hug. She asks if his words meant he was going to like her back, and he half-laughs, “Did you figure it out now? I’ll like you—don’t become the mayor’s wife.” She thrills at the words, beaming and hugging him tight, and promises not to marry the mayor…
…annnnnnd then she wakes up again, clutching a lamp instead of Gun-woo.
#$%^&*()*#@$%#
Gun-woo breaks the reverie and asks if she’s mindless with happiness over liking [him/it/unspecified object]. She gets defensive before he clarifies that he meant liking that they’re doing so much business. Then he realizes where her mind went and gets cheeky, saying it’ll take a while for her to recover from her “sickness” since she’s got it so bad.
Then Gun-woo reminds her of his “I’ll be good to you” speech, which makes Jung-joo perk up—until he says he secured three restaurant reservations. He promises to keep being good to her, and she slaps on a disappointed smile.
He gives her a box to carry outside, then stoops to tie her shoelace, patting himself on the back for being good to her again. She asks why he’s treating her well, and he replies, “If you trip, you’ll get hurt.” THAT’S NOT WHAT SHE MEANT AND YOU KNOW IT.
She looks him in the eye and asks for an honest answer: What’ll do if she keeps liking him? Gun-woo replies that it’s not bad having her like him, as it makes him feel nice to be worthy of her feelings, and that he ought to continue being a good person. And so, he doesn’t feel motivation to help her get over him.
Jung-joo balks at his reasoning and snaps that she’s going to stop liking him. We know it’ll never happen, but I applaud the effort.
Mayor Wook hears that a Jeju restaurant owner is planning to move to the States for a few years to help raise her granddaughter. She doesn’t want to sell her restaurant but can’t leave it empty either, so Wook offers to put her in contact with someone who could run it in her absence.
He heads over to Warm & Cozy with wildflowers picked from near that restaurant and suggests taking Jung-joo to see them in person. She’s hesitant at the implied meaning, and he says gruffly that he didn’t mean right this minute, but promises to pick more flowers for her, and more, and more—so that she’ll grow attached and want to go with him one day. Awww.
Jung-joo puts the flowers in a vase, telling herself when all her balloons are popped (for Gun-woo), she’ll be able to go see the flowers.
Gun-woo doesn’t need to be told where the flowers came from, and in a roundabout way mentions going to buy flowers of his own. He makes it a point to say that they’re for another woman, whom he’ll be seeing this weekend.
He means his mother, whose death anniversary is approaching. According to his siblings, Gun-woo has a tradition of visiting his mother on the eve of her memorial day, to avoid seeing their gossipy relatives who still wonder who his father is. You know, drama, you keep telling me I should care who that is, but I don’t. I really don’t.
Noona wonders how Jung-geun’s love life is going these days, since he didn’t bring anyone to that party. She offers to set him up with a gallery director, only to have him one-up her, saying that the woman he’s seeing is a chairwoman.
Meaning, of course, chairwoman of the divers association. Jung-geun heads over there with his determined face on, clutching the black pearl necklace Hae-shil refused. He misses hearing an older ajumma asking her for a ride home, so when he sees a diver sitting in Hae-shil’s bike, he slaps his helmet on her head and ushers her onto his motorcycle instead. Away they go.
Jung-geun pulls over at a scenic spot overlooking the sea, all proud of himself at how cool he’s being. He dangles that pearl pendant and tells her to take it, then lifts the helmet visor and realizes he got the wrong lady. He immediately apologizes and offers to take her home, only to have Ajumma offer to help him.
A short while later, Ajumma returns with Hae-shil, who reluctantly stays to hear him out. Jung-geun finally introduces himself properly and asks for a date, which is really all it takes (was that so hard?), and Hae-shil agrees with a smiling “Why not?”
Mr. Gong is busy setting up a date too, thinking Wook’s courtship needs a push. He enlists Gun-woo’s aid in tricking the two into a movie date, calling it a “secret seduction” (the name of Yoo Yeon-seok’s new movie, which opened last week), where each would bring one-half of the couple, then ditch them in the theater. Gun-woo flatly rejects, so Mr. Gong just asks Poong-san next, putting Gun-woo in a pissy mood.
Gun-woo glares at Wook’s flowers and makes a move to chuck them, though he gets caught by Jung-joo and pretends he was just checking on them. Bringing up his weekend plans, he offhandedly offers to buy her flowers too, though before he has a chance to explain what it’s for, Poong-san interrupts to ask Jung-joo to the movies this weekend. She lights up at the free tickets and agrees.
Ji-won (blerg) hears from a friend that Gun-woo’s interference the other day was to save her from humiliation, and feels bad for the hand injury he sustained in the process. Should I be glad you have a conscience? But what good is it if you ignore it all the time?
Jung-geun brings Hae-shil in for a makeover, though he adds that it’s not because she’s poor, but that he wants to see her looking more beautiful. He admits to riding the motorcycle to look cool for her, and asks if she doesn’t want to look pretty for him. Hae-shil teases that he fell for her wearing a diving suit—could he handle it? I’m thinking no, but he agrees to try.
She emerges looking lovely and sophisticated and asks what he thinks, and Jung-geun looks at her critically. She’s missing something, he says, and holds out that pearl necklace, which he places around her neck, saying that she looks with black pearls (hint hint). Next on the date course: a fancy dinner on a yacht.
The weekend rolls around, and Gun-woo readies to head out to visit his mother’s grave. He hangs back to ask about Jung-joo’s movie plans, then proposes a game of rock-scissors-paper, where if he wins, she’ll accompany him instead. He tells her in advance what hand he’ll play (meant to give your opponent the choice to voluntarily lose to you), only to have Jung-joo instinctively play the winning hand against his paper.
Miffed, he tells her to enjoy the movie and heads out, while Jung-joo reasons, “If you just said you wanted me to go with you, I’d go with you.” So easily said, and yet, apparently not so easily done.
Poong-san and Jung-joo go to the movie theater, where he excuses himself strategically as Mr. Gong does the same. He sends Wook in first, making an excuse about buying snacks…
but at the same time, Gun-woo arrives and takes the empty seat next to Jung-joo. He asks for a rematch of rock-scissors-paper, informing her that he intends to play paper again—and this time, Jung-joo purposely loses to him.
Brightening, Gun-woo takes her hand and leads her out of the theater, just as Wook arrives at his seat and sees them leaving. Awwww. He sits alone, looking glumly at all the couples surrounding him.
Gun-woo says his errand isn’t pressing and asks Jung-joo if there’s anything she’d like to do today first. She rattles off a list of restaurant tasks, but he suggests they not do any of those and offers his hand, which she takes. Instead, they enjoy the afternoon doing date-like things like window-shopping, eating street snacks, and taking photographs. And when she falls asleep at a cafe, he just watches her with a smile.
Hae-shil thinks back to the end of her date with Jung-geun, when she’d said it had felt like a dream, that she wasn’t quite herself. He’d replied that she’s Hae-shil either way, just as he’s the same guy as that Mr. Song who’d followed her to the diving school. How can he say such mature things and then act like a five-year-old throwing a tantrum? It’s a mystery.
When she tries to return the pearl necklace, Jung-geun says he’d like her to keep it, just as he’d like to keep having her. He tells her to return it if she means to reject him, or to go to see him wearing it if she doesn’t. So for now, she looks at the pearl in its box, mulling over the decision.
In a cafe, Jung-joo eats a shaved ice bingsoo, saying it’s just as pretty as a flower. He says this can count as the flowers he’d offered to buy her, and that leads to a bickering round where she says it’s not the same as real flowers, and he says she could have stayed with Real Flowers (Wook) at the theater rather than losing on purpose.
She digs into her bingsoo angrily and says the cold will make her come to her senses, and Gun-woo supposes that she wouldn’t go with him if that happened. She snaps at him to go alone, and so they end up splitting up—he to his mother’s grave, and Jung-joo to the movie theater.
She runs into Wook there, and he says he saw her leaving earlier with Gun-woo. Jung-joo explains leaving him to return here, though she sighs that she doesn’t know why she’d gone when he didn’t force her. But she’s smarting at his petty meanness, like laughing that she’d voluntarily lost at rock-scissors-paper.
Wook notes that they turned a simple game into a psychological battle, to which she says, blinking back tears, that it’s not even a fight because she’ll always lose to Gun-woo. It upsets her, but she can’t help it because those are her feelings.
Wook suggests running away to eat at a restaurant near the wildflower patch, because with him she’d at least be even in a draw. He points out that running away is one recognized strategem of war when you keep losing in a fight.
Jung-joo is about to go with him, but when she steps aside and runs into Poong-san, she learns that Gun-woo must have really hated the idea of seeing his mother’s grave alone. That changes her mind, and she tells Wook apologetically that Gun-woo’s just played the winning hand again, and she’ll be losing again—she can’t help losing to him, because she likes him that much.
Gun-woo, for what it’s worth, wasn’t making fun of her for fun’s sake; he just seems perpetually incapable of saying the honest thing and hides behind wordplay. So as he heads to see Mom, he sighs glumly that he should have gone with Jung-joo when he’d taken her hand earlier. He’s especially concerned that a certain someone will have come by again this year, and in a flashback we see that last year, Gun-woo had found someone else’s flowers and food offerings at Mom’s grave.
Ji-won drops by Warm & Cozy to see Gun-woo, but sees that the restaurant is closed for the day and visits noona next. That’s when she hears that Gun-woo has a childless businessman uncle who wants to lure Gun-woo into working for him, and perks up at the thought that Gun-woo will inherit that company. UGHHHHHH. Go find a fire, and die in it. It will be fueled by the hatred of your viewers and thus burn eternally.
At the cemetery, Jung-joo reminisces about once thinking they might be twins. They don’t know why her father was in that photograph with Gun-woo’s mother, and as both parents are dead, they suppose they may never know. Gun-woo asks if she ever located her mother, and Jung-joo shakes her head—until Mom comes looking for her, she doesn’t think she’ll be able to find her.
And wouldn’t you know, just then Poong-san fields a call asking after Jung-joo, asking if she runs that restaurant. The middle-aged woman asks for directions to Warm & Cozy, then looks down at a photograph labeled as Jung-joo’s dol birthday.
Gun-woo leads Jung-joo to his mother’s grave, and his face darkens to see the same offering as last year already there. He has a guess as to their source: “My father.” He’s never met the man, but he knows that his relationship to his mother didn’t end well.
The townspeople don’t like the nosy novelist couple poking their noses into the story of Hae-shil’s dead husband, but they ignore the warnings and persist in coming back, like a cockroach that won’t die, or herpes. The novelist wife asks Mr. Gong to confirm whether the man in a photograph is that husband, and his reaction seems to support that it is—and it’s that same photograph with Gun-woo’s mother. Does that make Hae-shil’s husband Jung-joo’s father? What fresh makjang is this?
Noona tries to set Jung-geun up with her well-to-do acquaintance, only to have him say he’s waiting on his chairwoman’s decision. Hae-shil arrives at the resort wearing the necklace and is asked to wait while Jung-geun wraps up a meeting. Noona mistakes her for the maid and gives her cleaning instructions (ouch) while inviting in the blind date, although she does tell the woman that her brother’s seeing somebody else. Both ladies wonder at what kind of impressive woman she must be, and Hae-shil’s heart sinks to see what kind of expectations he comes with.
She excuses herself to leave, and noona talks down to her like she’s the maid again—and then recognizes the pearl she’s wearing and actually accuses her of stealing it from her brother. It’s only when Hae-shil says she’s here to return it that the thought crosses noona’s mind that she might be the woman her brother’s seeing, though she’s aghast at the idea.
Hae-shil hands the necklace back to Jung-geun’s secretary, who delivers it to him apologetically. Jung-geun catches a glimpse of her leaving the resort from his window, heavy-hearted as she walks away. Hae-shil keeps her head up, though she can’t help from crying as she goes.
Gun-woo tells Jung-joo what it was like growing up not knowing who his father was, wondering if he resembled him. It’s why he played soccer when he heard Dad might be a soccer coach, and took up painting when he heard it might be an painter. Yet according to his mother, Dad was a really awful person—and he wonders if he’s like him.
Jung-joo hastens to say that no, he’s a good person, reminding him of how well he treated her. He says that her liking him makes him feel like he is a good person, though he recognizes that if he were one, he ought to let Jung-joo go and not encourage her to keep liking him. But he’s bad, he says, because he doesn’t want to do that—he wants her to keep liking him.
Hurt, she says, “You really are a bad jerk.” She gets up and leaves, and he heaves a sigh.
Noona vents to Ji-won about her older brother’s taste in women, and Ji-won urges her to worry about her little brother too—they can’t just leave Jung-joo dangling around him. United as one front of meddling evil, noona calls Gun-woo while Ji-won heads to the restaurant to confront Jung-joo.
She tells Jung-joo that she means to accept Gun-woo now (…that she knows he’s going to inherit), and that makes it silly for him to hang onto this restaurant for Jung-joo’s sake when really, he only ever started it to wait for Ji-won to return. Which she has. So Jung-joo should leave now.
To enable Gun-woo to cut her loose, noona gives him a check for double Jung-joo’s deposit, to pay her off and get rid of the restaurant. She instructs him to return to Seoul immediately, where he can figure out what to do next with his life.
Gun-woo hugs the envelope close and sighs in contentment, saying how exciting it is to see such big numbers again. Then he slaps the envelope on the table and thanks his sister for the thrill, no intention of actually keeping it. Aww. That’s sweet. Noona shouts after him to take the money, but Gun-woo’s more fixated on the flower vase nearby, plucking a rose to take with him.
Jung-joo’s mulling over Ji-won’s snide words when Mr. Gong arrives at the restaurant with a grandma in tow—Wook’s grandmother, in fact, who insisted on meeting the wife she saw on television. Wook arrives in time to intervene, apologizing for the inconvenience and wondering if more relatives are going to show up unannounced.
Then he notices that she’s alone again, and suggests going to pick more flowers. He urges her to try that running away tactic and offers to hold her hand if it’s difficult, and Jung-joo considers.
Gun-woo arrives just in time to see Wook waiting for Jung-joo, hiding the flower behind his back as he asks what they’re doing. Wook steps aside to let them talk, and he looks (unreasonably!) betrayed to hear that they’re going out to eat dinner. He even offers to make dinner for them here, but Jung-joo says they’re not only going to eat dinner (take that!) and also plan to look at the flowers.
Gun-woo tells her he’ll show her a really expensive flower right here, but she cuts in just as he starts to take out the flower, saying she’s done losing to him. She holds up a hand for another round of rock-scissors-paper, but he sees he’s lost and declines.
Jung-joo leaves decisively, though once she’s outside she can’t help looking backward, fighting with herself. Recalling Wook’s words about leaving with him to at least result in a draw, she tells him she’ll go, and gets in the car.
So Gun-woo sits in the empty restaurant all evening, waiting for her to return, having replaced Wook’s flowers with his own.
Jung-joo returns that night with a fresh armful of wildflowers, and stops short when she finds Gun-woo’s rose in that vase. She tells him to put his rose in his room and pulls it from the vase, replacing it with Wook’s wildflowers.
Undaunted, he asks where she’ll be putting the rose, only to have her reply that it’ll go in the trash can.
She tosses it in the sink, and Gun-woo exclaims that she has no idea how expensive it was—it was worth at least 100 million won. She thinks he’s just blowing steam and says she won’t lose to him anymore. He asks, “Will you be able to do that?”
Jung-joo retorts that because he kept treating her well and doing nice things, she started to lean on him and therefore lost to him. But now, she won’t depend on him for anything, and she won’t lose either.
“Try it if you can,” he challenges. And while she’s working that out, he swwops in and surprises her with a kiss. She stares wide-eyed for a few moments before her eyes flutter closed.
Gun-woo pulls back, asking, “You lost, didn’t you?”
COMMENTS
I have the nagging feeling I’m supposed to find that ending scene swoon and romantic—just a hunch! maybe?—but for the life of me, I just can’t see it through that happy-giddy-sweetness lens that I want to see it through. What does it say about this one-step-forward-one-step-sideways-and-around-the-block plot that I have no actual expectation that Gun-woo’s kiss is forward movement? That I’m gun-shy about him doing it, setting Jung-joo all awhirl, and then retreating behind a jokey facade? That’s nothing more than an emotional drive-by, and it’s sort of become his modus operandi at this point.
Yes, there’s still hope that the ending scene is meant to herald in positive developments, and that he’s being pushed toward declaring his feelings rather than hiding behind all the wordplay and doublespeak, which has been his crutch till this point. It drives me dingbatty, the way he says something actually meaning one thing, and then steps back and pretends he only meant the face-value interpretation. That the loaded meaning was just Jung-joo’s wishful thinking, thereby making her think she was imagining all sorts of things when he’s in total control over her interpretation the whole time!
So fine, let’s leave open the possibility that Gun-woo’s kiss is earnest, ignoring that unsettlingly smug smile at the end. But if I believed for a second that he was kissing her because he likes her or is overcome with love or because he plain just wants to kiss her, I’d be the first one jumping up and down with giddiness, making enough high-pitched noises to set a neighborhood of dogs off on a barking fit.
I don’t doubt that Gun-woo cares, and that much of what he’s doing for Jung-joo in the name of “treating you well” is sincere—if I didn’t believe that we’d have no drama. And I do think his fatal flaw is that he is so protective of his feelings that he just won’t put himself out there—he won’t be vulnerable, so instead he pretends everything’s lighter than it is. Trouble is, when you make everything shallow, everything you get back remains shallow.
Jung-joo’s his opposite, allowing herself to be open and sincere, and while this approach gets her hurt over and over, it makes her much more admirable. But you can’t have a relationship when only one side is willing to be serious, and as a result it feels like Gun-woo’s playing a childish word game while Jung-joo’s trying to have an adult conversation. And there’s no hope of communication then!
It’s interesting, then, this drama’s repeated use of the phrase “treating you well”/”being good to you,” which in Korean is used to mean being nice above and beyond a standard level of politeness. It doesn’t necessarily mean romantic interest, but it can certainly lead to crossed signals and confusion, as Jung-joo experiences. He’s acting in all sorts of pseudo-boyfriendy ways, but always retreats behind the “treating you well’ excuse to keep things safe and platonic.
It’s an unintended side effect that in English, the phrase sounds extra ironic because in “treating her well” he’s actually treating her badly. (It may be a little ironic in Korean too, but the phrase is common enough in Korean to describe this kind of attention that it doesn’t feel as contradictory.) It’s something that comes out in his comment to Jung-joo about wanting to be a good person but feeling he might be bad, because his selfishness to want to keep feeling like he’s good (because Jung-joo’s feelings make him feel worthy), it actually encourages him to be bad (in wanting to keep fanning her like for him).
It’s funny that Gun-woo’s selfishness is one of the things that endears him to me, because he seems more like a real person that way and not so much an unrealistic paragon of virtues. Those people are such bores! But… there’s a fine line between selfish and charming and selfishly infuriating—actually, scratch that. It’s not such a fine line. It’s a big, wide line and it shouldn’t be that hard for Gun-woo to stay on the good side of it, and I want the writing to bring him back around before I spew rage-marbles at Yoo Yeon-seok, the unwitting victim of aggravating character development. (Though to be fair, the fact that Yoo Yeon-seok is playing Gun-woo is probably the biggest reason I’m still attached to Gun-woo at all, because he plays him with a cuteness and innocence that mitigates the assy factor.) I want to root for you, Gun-woo! Help me help you! If you don’t, I’ll just have to pout into my popcorn and cry.
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1 mongoose
June 11, 2015 at 8:22 PM
lol the mayor
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sel
June 11, 2015 at 9:20 PM
LOL the mayor.
But actually, his theater scene made me like moan in sadness. The poor guy cannot catch a break. :( And he's so wonderful.
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DramaCents
June 11, 2015 at 11:47 PM
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redd
June 12, 2015 at 12:31 AM
I have second lead syndrom right now..
Hiks.
He is so wonderful..
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chairmanmeow
June 12, 2015 at 8:34 AM
Looks like I'm suffering from serious Second Male Lead Syndrome! Oh Mayor, what do I do with you?!
But at least, I got the kiss that I was waiting for!! ;)
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sweettangerine
June 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM
Geez, we"re ten episodes into this, and it still hasn't gone anywhere. So disappointed in the writers. I'm just gonna watch this for the adorable mayor and the relaxing Jeju Island scenery.
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2 mizzyfreak7
June 11, 2015 at 8:32 PM
Wonderful review- the comments about the end scene nailed exactly my feelings about it...I felt like the music and build-up were pushing me towards a romantic, glow-y moment but I ended up just feeling like he was jerking her around (and the same with the writers and the audience!) I LOVE Jung-Joo and the way her character is written so I wish I was swooning a bit more about her leading man instead of wishing for an ending involving mega financial success for her instead...
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KDaddict?JCW
June 11, 2015 at 11:06 PM
How can anyone root for JJ to be w GW? He's such a jerk.
In yesterday's thread sb said that a guy who is as immature and selfish as GW would be undatable in real life! Ain't that the truth.
The dating in this drama is all kinds of wrong. Makes me wonder if the writers have ever dated in their lives. Many gals/women date handsome men who can be sweet at times, but are in actual fact incapable of being considerate of their feelings, and get their hearts broken into a million little pieces that can't ever be pieced together again. They too like JJ have fallen hopelessly for sb like GW.
I'd like this to be a cautionary tale for those who don't know any better, i.e. the ending should involve a lot of pain and rebirth for Lee Jong Joo, to warn young women AWAY from the likes of GW.
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DramaCents
June 12, 2015 at 1:46 AM
I am going out with someone very immature and childish and sharp-tongued. That person wants to win all the time. I like him too much to leave him but he thinks too logically to be able to understand any emotional stuff.
Leaving GW will not be that easy to JJ..he will not let it be easy
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DramaCents
June 11, 2015 at 11:49 PM
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fgb4877
June 12, 2015 at 12:09 AM
Dear Jung-Joo-ya, would you please consider risking your knuckles and break a couple of teeth for Gun-Woo to lose that smug face?. Pretty pretty please?.
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Aigoooo
June 12, 2015 at 12:24 AM
I think it would be a great twist if she actually completely lost interest in him. That should slap the smugness right out of him and maybe he'll learn not to play with women's emotions like that. A few episodes of him getting ignored/stood up, groveling to no avail should do the trick.
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Kat
June 12, 2015 at 1:22 AM
I wish!!! Hong sisters, can you please do that???
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Chesens
June 12, 2015 at 5:58 AM
Oh yes please! I'm praying that the twist is that they really are twins!
Jung Joo ends up happily with the Mayor! Who picks wild flowers for her, who said he will hold her hand if things get tough... Please Jung Joo, just pick him!
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osmanthustea
June 12, 2015 at 9:41 AM
For once, a makjang would be useful!
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Yesindeed
June 12, 2015 at 6:45 AM
I think a slap would be too kind. I think her response should be "No, you lost. You lost because I'm through with your childish games. I'm leaving." Then she walks out and starts working at the other lady's restaurant. Then it is his turn to pursue her, and keep losing until all that smugness is stomped out of him.
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AnyDramaWillDo
June 12, 2015 at 7:05 AM
Yes! GW is so smug thinking that he won, but I hope his behavior shows her that he is not yet worthy of her heart. I think a graphic of the rest of the balloons popping would be great! He has a lot of growing up to do before he is worthy of winning her heart.
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osmanthustea
June 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM
YES
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3 Gaelicmaiden
June 11, 2015 at 8:48 PM
Thanks for the recap! You summed up my feelings about the kiss PERFECTLY. It says something when I saw the scene raw, and instead of squeeing like I usually do at a Kdrama kiss, I just think, "Wonder what assy thing GW is saying/doing this time?"
I'm not sure if GW is in denial about the depth of his feelings for JJ, or he honestly hasn't realized them yet, but watching him give her just enough morsels of affection to keep her coming back, while not making any real commitments or declarations himself - Well, he's really not much better than JW.
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DramaCents
June 12, 2015 at 1:48 AM
I think that the man-child is used to a dynamic and wants it to continue, because changing it would be too much work for the lazy ant
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4 primaoptima
June 11, 2015 at 8:52 PM
I was never the type to root for the second lead but gaaahhh I wish Jungjoo would give more chances to Wook!
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Chesens
June 12, 2015 at 5:59 AM
+1
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5 nonski
June 11, 2015 at 8:55 PM
yesh! things got way better, thank you for the recaps!
off to read!
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nonski
June 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM
thanks for your thoughts JB! i thought i was the only one feeling that way on the end scene on their kiss. there, you put it rightly, the smugness in his smile which belies something i am hoping is not the case. i am happy that the kiss happened, and it seems that on the whole episode GW did actually great in trying to overcome his handicap and is trying to really get into JJ but the action/motive behind the kiss, just to prove a point, i don't think i can take that. sorry but no i can't! i am still positive that we'd have something to salvage this in the opening of episode 11 so i don't want to let my mind wander so much. i like my GW and JJ! their chemistry is very visible. the date scenes... perfect!
check them out here:
http://nonskibg.tumblr.com/post/121284738417/dating-101-warm-and-cozy-way-lets-go-lets
http://nonskibg.tumblr.com/post/121285212452/dating-101-warm-and-cozy-way-lets-stroll
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nonski
June 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM
http://nonskibg.tumblr.com/post/121285648702/dating-101-warm-and-cozy-way-moments-together
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6 evw09
June 11, 2015 at 8:56 PM
The Great Gatsby has nothing to do with this show, it should be called 'Playful Kiss: Grown Folks on Jeju Island edition'. Gun Woo is Baek Seung Jo, a boy who is incapable of openly admitting his feelings thus incapable of having a mature relationship until his back is pressed against the wall. Lee Jung Joo is Oh Ha Ni, who continues to chase around a guy who insists he has no feelings for her and yet she allows herself to be toyed with. The kiss at the end of the episode was so Baek Seung Jo. (The 'still like me' confession was the exact scene from Heartstrings). The difference though is Baek Seung Jo and Oh Ha Ni were in high school so their games were more tolerable. Here, we have to grown individuals who are 30 years old. It's not cute.
One more thing, Gun Woo's brother is despicable. I hate that he keeps trying to change Hae Sil and make her conform to his world. I loved that she pointed out that he fell for her in her diving suit. Jung Geun looks down on her and doesn't think she's worthy of being with him. I can't root for any of these couples in good conscious, and in true K-drama fashion, I'm too committed to stop watching now. Just someone please, please rescue the Mayor from anymore heartache because he's the only one that really deserves to be happy amongst the whole lot.
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fgb4877
June 11, 2015 at 10:02 PM
... I still vouch for Hyung and Hae-Shil. He is really trying hard to find a middle point for them to encounter, but as you can see it is a tricky business. The sister doesn't have half a neuron available, she knows Ugh-Yeo and her antics for God knows how many years, his "infatuated" little brother tell her exactly what Ugh-Yeo is cooking, and STILL considers her a sound and reliable source of information to act upon!!!.
And Ms. Javabeans, thanks for the recap. Gun-Woo is an utterly unreliable first male lead (like Flower Bouquet in Fantasy Couple), so what you feel is the distrust that kind of character brings upon by simply not being commited to his words and his actions. His character is a nice person, but unreliable and therefore must be put in the Hell of Friendzone Forever.
And I agree that the smug smile and comment ruined what could had been a good cliffhanger. I am happy that since episode 8 it started to feel like a Hong Sister's Drama, but I don't know if it was sloppy writing or it will become a part of the arc (like this moment is coming to bite his *first vowel of the alphabet*ss).
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fgb4877
June 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM
BTW Ms. JavaBeans (or any Beanie with knowledge), May I ask a sociological question?. What is like the dating scene in South Korea?.
I am asking because I think of KDramas as a muddled mirror about the reality there, and because I've seen many times this:
* Is better to be a Chaebol (or let's say affluent in actual life) than being nice, understanding and reliable (as the Mayor). Is Korean people that attached to status?.
* Complicated is better than simple (GW`s relationship with JJ is narratively more rich than the one she has with the Mayor, and lets be honest: if there were no Gun-Woo or Hyung-Hae-Shil, the warm and cozy relationship between JJ and the Mayor wouldn't sustain the ratings), which would be translated in real life as: does Korean people expect Drama and uneasiness on their love life?, or is it a by-product of marrying in an usually not say loveless but blind marriage?... which brings me to...
* How much of a role really plays family in their love life?. In this Drama (and in almost all I've seen) we have meddling Noona (I am about to call her No-one instead of Noona), all of Mayor's family in these two episodes, and the extended family of meddling Jeju Townsfolk.
* How does all of this relate to the Korean IN concept?.
Please be free to discuss this post and add your own questions/uneasiness.
Thanks in advance.
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KDaddict?JCW
June 12, 2015 at 1:26 AM
Hi, Miss FGB,
I don't pretend to know it all, but here are my thoughts for why they're worth.
There are some general underlying cultural values that differentiate Korea from western societies.
First, it was Confucian for many centuries. Some of those values still remain as the underpinnings of society even today:
1. like the value of family, and the respect for elders. That's why we keep seeing parental or familial interference in dating relationships. They have the 'right'.
2. women have to be demure and passive and need to be wooed; hence we see a lot of wrist-grabs, man-handling, and force-kisses, bcos good girls (in the Confucian system) r prim and proper, n don't go around offering themselves or their kisses. Even if they like the guy, hugs and kisses have to be pried out of them.
These 2 sets of happenings often drive us viewers w more modern sensibilities batty.
Second, I'm sure you've watched some sagueks, which show that in Joseon times, status was inherited. Yangbangs had all the power, commoners and slaves had none.
1. Sure, it's no longer Joseon times, but some remnant of that history still remains, in the sense that Korea is a very hierarchical society. You need to know your place in society, and if you don't you'll be put in your place. Hence we see a lot of Very obnoxious behavior from higher ups in dramas.
2. That's also why there is this hang up about marrying up or down; his family sizing up her family, his credentials, vs. her credential/dowry, to see if they are properly suited, or else one side loses in the marriage deal, and let's not be fooled, marriage is always a deal.
Third, is complicated better than simple?
That's only the case in dramas. Like u said, who wants to watch a drama in which both leads are mature, sensible, reasonable, have no quibbles or troubles, right?
Fourth, things r always exaggerated for dramatic effect. I wouldn't take KDs to be a good reflection of K reality in general, but don't doubt that there r some nuggets of truth in them.
Fifth, Let's not forget that there is the matter of wish-fulfilment in dramas. There is only 1 true love, they've known each other since they were 4 years old. For the sake of escapism, drama heroes and heroines are often not realistic. The guys are chaebols and geniuses, the girls have hearts of gold. What's the fun if they are too real?
Just some random thoughts.
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fgb4877
June 12, 2015 at 9:28 AM
Dear Ms. KDramaddict, as always it is a pleasure to read you.
I had the same perceptions, but wanted an external point of view to corroborate or dispel those myths. I consider Dramas as wish-fulfilling vehicles, but these whishes speaks volumes about the societies they come from.
Again, thanks for your quick answer.
Hmyzone55
June 11, 2015 at 10:20 PM
I had the same exact thought!
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KDaddict?JCW
June 11, 2015 at 11:21 PM
I agree w @evw on "GW's brother is despicable", even tho I was so upbeat on the older couple for 8 eps.
Hyung is as smug and full of shit as they come. I hate KD rich men who bring their GFs in for a makeover. What it says is that: You can't afford any of this stuff, so I'm going to impress your pants off w all this finery, and w/o them, you aren't fit for me to be seen w you. Well, that incenses me.
It's so superficial and insulting.
Talking about superficial, I don't know whether I hate Jiwon or the sister more. Sis assumes HS is a cleaning lady AND a thief just cos she is dressed modestly. What's so wrong w pants and a cotton cardigan over a blouse? Now I know JW, Sis and the blogger are birds of a feather!
Blogger has no bloody right to go around asking after sb's life to write a story out of it. I want to hit her on the head whenever she appears, esp. w Sis!
Warm & Cozy is becoming Stupid & Infuriating.
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Adal
June 12, 2015 at 8:53 AM
Preach it!
My thoughts exactly. Especially on the blogger and the ghastly noona that so haughty she sizes up a person based on dress alone! Ugh!
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osmanthustea
June 12, 2015 at 9:44 AM
Ugh, they kinda deserve each other, the two friends. At first I thought noona might be a bit free-spirited and sensible, but now I can't stand her too.
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yings
June 12, 2015 at 1:03 AM
This is so true!!! The Kiss to prove a point IS so "Playful Kiss".. And I was wondering why did this premise seem so familiar! Ahhhh... I was on team GW... but now.. Earnest Mayor just seem like the better choice for JJ. GW is not 맨도롱 또똣 .. He is just 답답해 . Despite the word plays.. which I enjoy... this drama is just living up to the standards that the Hong sisters could have done! :( Sigh.
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yings
June 12, 2015 at 1:04 AM
Sorry.. just NOT living up to the standards of the Hong sisters!
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DramaCents
June 12, 2015 at 1:59 AM
Wow..I was just thinking: "This reminds me of the graduation kiss from Playful Kiss". I feel like the situation, the kiss and the smug face..all were copy pasted. And I, for the love of God, fail to see why anyone would do that? To turn the a**hole man-child of the hero into the biggest a**hole man-child in the K-drama world?
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DramaCents
June 12, 2015 at 2:00 AM
For anyone who wants to revisit that Playful Kiss' kiss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuKQRztoWFM
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June 12, 2015 at 2:03 AM
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youcallitwinter
June 12, 2015 at 4:40 AM
Oh dear God, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking while watching the scene; I'm pretty sure even the "then stop if you can" dialogue just resonated the Playful Kiss railing kiss. And Geun-woo was definitely Seung-jo throughout this episode.
It's genuinely frustrating, because, at this point, even the nice things he's doing, he's doing with the complete knowledge that he wants to further her feelings for him. At least before his misunderstanding re: her early death lent credibility to his actions, even when they thoroughly confused her emotionally. But now, in every scene that he's close to her, or does something for her, he openly brings in how much it must be affecting her. And it's even more frustrating because she keeps expecting more sincerity from each succeeding gesture, even though he's basically going around in loops.
He's mentioned multiple times that he's stringing her along because he likes how her liking him makes him feel, not because he has any feelings for her. He's asking her to continue liking him without the expectation of anything in return, while he's going to like Ji-won till the end of time. And she actually does, considering she still asks him the meaning of his words, even though the meaning never changes. The way I see it, the Mayor (rightly) feels exactly about Geun-woo/Jung-joo as Jung-joo does about Ji-won/Geun-woo, in that neither can understand why a person would choose to keep going back to someone who's deliberately playing with them, has no intention of committing, and hurts them on a regular basis. Considering how up-in-arms Jung-joo was about Ji-won's treatment of Geun-woo, it's ironic that she hasn't yet realized that she's the Geun-woo to Geun-woo's Ji-won in their relationship.
I cheered her on, when she threw the rose away, and didn't seem hugely affected by it (as she shouldn't have been, it was just a flower), but OBVIOUSLY the kiss had to happen then. All I hope is that it's catalyst enough for her to realize just how much he's manipulating her emotions and leave his sorry ass, at least for him to come to some real-world realizations of his own. To have grow up people behave in this way is just not attractive.
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Adal
June 12, 2015 at 8:57 AM
+100
The drama reeks of subtle abuse of power in relationships. I hope Jung Joo wakes up to reality soon and the mayor wakes up too. As much as I ship him with Jung joo, he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning her affections when she's so hung up on GW.
And what exactly are the Hong Sisters doing anyway? The plot had so much potential than this up-and-down-play-with-my-affections-kind-of-thing. There are so many threads they could have gone on to make this drama more interesting than it is. Smh.
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susan
June 12, 2015 at 7:04 AM
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7 Onion
June 11, 2015 at 8:59 PM
Ugh Baek Gun Woo! If there is no progress in the next ep I am so rooting for mayor!!!
(But YYS and KSR look so cute together... T.T)
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songsong
June 12, 2015 at 12:55 AM
Yes YYS & KSR look really good together! Perfect!
So I am still rooting for BGW & LJJ.
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riarallahssi
June 14, 2015 at 12:08 AM
Oddly enough, more than the visuals and even though I am really very frustrated with BGW right now, I'm still rooting for BGW and LJJ.
I mean, the mayor is nice but I think someone here has previously pointed out that it wouldn't be fair to be with the mayor when she has feelings for BGW. LJJ has to sort her own feelings out before dragging the mayor into it. I agree with that much.
As I feel empathetic with LJJ's situation, I think she's gotten in way too deep before she could realize that BGW can't be loved. The thing is she has seen that he is worth loving and had fully embraced the thought before finding out that it may not be a good idea. She hit the point of no return. She fell. Even though she's finding that she may have been wrong, forgetting is still easier said than done.
Luckily BGW loves her too. It's just that he's such a frustrating idiot. Of course, if he continues to miss out on his straws then it's just right for LJJ to go on mend her self-esteem and then it's just BGW's problem from then on.
BUT....I just so badly want to see BGW smart up and man up and just be direct, and beg for her to stay. The drama has taken me to my last straw and I just have to see him man up by episode 11 or that's just it.
Here's to betting they're together by 11 because well, they're together in the drama poster.
In real life, men like BGW don't ever man up and girls like LJJ marry the mayor. But this is dramaland, so I'm confident BGW will be able to do what most men in real life can't.
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8 sartorius
June 11, 2015 at 8:59 PM
I agree with everything that was said about this episode! Gosh, i feel like they keep going around in circles....excpet the circles are the same. They just put a new spin on things....but its the same old shiz!
As for the only couple that i care about, Hyung and HS, that was sad. It sucks that when she finally accepted him, she had to see that display!
Also le sis has not been added to the bitch pile along with girl-who-cant-act-especially-with-her-eyes!
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9 Ziva
June 11, 2015 at 9:05 PM
Question:
Is Hae-Shil supposed to be around the same age as the older brother? Or was Gun Woo's mom older than his dad is what they're implying...??
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10 Gaelicmaiden
June 11, 2015 at 9:16 PM
Holy crap - get out of my head. I had the exact same thought about the comparison to "Playful Kiss", and how it's more annoying on this show since they're adults, not high school kids.
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11 yayabean
June 11, 2015 at 9:17 PM
I feel so sad for the may
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12 sel
June 11, 2015 at 9:19 PM
"UGHHHHHH. Go find a fire, and die in it. It will be fueled by the hatred of your viewers and thus burn eternally."
HAHAHA.
And as insufferable as Ji-won is, Gun-woo's noona is also getting worse and worse as it goes on. She's oblivious and a meddler, which is horrible.
This kiss definitely wasn't a romantic one, but at this point that's not what I'm expecting. I think in the past few weeks they really fleshed out Gun-woo's character. In the first few episodes he seemed like a bit of an idiot, and while he still has that, we also see that his childishness doesn't mean he's not conscious of what he's doing. I feel like they subtly revealed his assholery the past few weeks. It definitely makes him interesting, though obviously harder to bear.
I actually really love the set of characters in this drama. There isn't much of a plot, but I'm always sold when I like the characters. And I actually really love this main couple. (And the mayor! And the brother and Hae-shil too, and most the townsfolk. So I guess I just love this batch. Mostly.) There's something fresh about these characters, who are genuinely wacky but strongly relatable in some moments.
That said, I worry about what's going to happen when we're already 10 episodes in and I feel like we've almost been at a standstill for the past four episodes. The pace established so far is so slow.
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alwaesboo
June 11, 2015 at 11:59 PM
agreed! i think the characters are v relatable and interesting to watch. even though its slightly less than ideal... i like how geon woo is not the typical ideal man who is without flaws. he's not dumb or indifferent.. he cares and is very much aware about what is happening around but at the same time his sense of self preservation takes a higher priority. (though i think that will evolve with time)
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KDaddict?JCW
June 12, 2015 at 1:00 AM
“UGHHHHHH. Go find a fire, and die in it. It will be fueled by the hatred of your viewers and thus burn eternally.”
Jiwon,
Go find a fire, take Noona and the noisy blogger with you, and die in it.
Someone should tell the Hong sisters that it's time for them to hang up their shingles, or go back to writing school.
If not for YYS, I'd have ditched this thing 9 eps ago.
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DramaCents
June 12, 2015 at 1:51 AM
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Chesens
June 12, 2015 at 6:04 AM
I couldn't stop laughing!!!
Ji Won will be burned alive by our hatred!!! Just golden!
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aco
June 12, 2015 at 7:11 AM
Amen... this drama doesn't freaking know what it want's.. Another Big, maybe even worse than that drama... How can they step so low in quality from their last drama, Master's Sun Which I loved... I feel really sorry for the actors...
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windsun33
June 12, 2015 at 10:07 AM
IMO the Hong sisters have not written a new drama in about 5 years - they have just recycled the olds ones.
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13 yayabean
June 11, 2015 at 9:19 PM
Aish! Phone battery died b4 i could say my heart goes out 2 the mayor. Poor Wooksokie.
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windsun33
June 12, 2015 at 10:08 AM
I thought phone batteries only really died in Korean dramas??
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14 monaco
June 11, 2015 at 9:27 PM
One word for this drama, FRUSTRATING!
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15 Myvilvil
June 11, 2015 at 9:28 PM
I'm actually loving this drama. I started watching this when I saw YYS in the movie preview of Perfect Proposal and I became hooked ever since. I know GW is such an ___hole in treating JJ sometimes but when you think about it..choosing not to take the 100 Million won and he being just defensive over his feelings or refusing to admit how he feels when it was so obvious to his friend Poongsan and to us, of course..
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sancheezy
June 11, 2015 at 9:37 PM
Waah nice that you like it
I feel that the love story is unique, can be fruatrating but then in life, I know that this is actually happen
I like them so much
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16 meekat
June 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM
ARGHH i don't get why they didn't just roll with the end of ep 8 as the big confession moment and the start of GW and JJ's adorable romantic relationship. the regression in the loveline during the last two eps is just infuriating.... i can't even
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17 panshel
June 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM
They should have just ended with the kiss. Save his assy “You lost, didn’t you?” for episode 11. Then at least I would be looking forward to next week's episodes like I had with this week's episodes after his fluttery "It’s uncomfortable" and "I’m yours." But alas, this week felt like a complete standstill, reversing all the progress we made last week.
I feel the most sorry for Wook who is just putting his feelings out there, but Jung Joo is either too dense or inconsiderate to notice. Not that Wook isn't aware whom she likes, so at least he's prepared for the impending heartbreak.
No Korean drama would be complete without the quintessential makeover. So would that make Hae Shil, Jung Joo's step-mother? I don't understand nor am I all that interested in solving the parents' mystery.
Thanks for recapping, javabeans!
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18 sancheezy
June 11, 2015 at 9:33 PM
I feel unjust with the editing
It seems that the cut between each moment is too fast or the ost play is akward start
Anyway, even the plot ia going sooo slow, I keep liking it to see the chractet development
It's maybe 1st drama when I think that a character need to developed because he needs it, not because they're in the extremely difficult aituation or have some trouble to overcome but because they already changed and they need to realized it
The character in this drama is unique and fresh, their development is flesh out imo, it's nice to see them just interact and realize something valuablr in theit lite
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19 bugdocmom
June 11, 2015 at 9:38 PM
Enjoyed the recap - my head was spinning after this episode.. But: I agree with your assessment and conclusion about GW in your comments section, javabeans. I don't think his character is badly written at all. He is, unfortunately, true to himself in the time frame that he's in. JJ's expectations of GW are too high and may be unrealistic with who GW really is - I hate to say but JW doesn't seem to have very high expectations of GW and finds him predictable. JJ is years behind JW with regards to the 411 on GW's past, etc.
Give it time, I say. GW will come around.
This episode had many clues surrounding the mysterious parents - etc - Hae Sil's deceased husband..
I didn't enjoy the make-over scene at all. I was surprised HS went along with it .. JG's reasoning: "I want to see a more beautiful side of you" was ridiculous. WTH was THAT about?!?
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Coral
June 12, 2015 at 12:50 PM
Well, the make-over scene was not that bad in my opinion. He said that he went to her diving school and he wanted her to step into his world as well. He wanted to know if she would make the effort for him, as he already did for her. I am not a fan of make-overs in dramas, but this one did not feel like she needed to stay in heels to keep his attention in the future, just that he was asking her to participate in his way of life too.
If they get closer, I guess he will need to go and drink some makgeolli with the ahjummas and she will need to dress up sometimes for the high class parties he will attend. I hope it is possible for them, because they are a cute couple.
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20 lifoser
June 11, 2015 at 9:47 PM
Fun fact: the movie they went to watch was actually Perfect Proposal in which YYS stars in...
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songsong
June 12, 2015 at 12:59 AM
LOL really? No wonder YYS has to lead her leading lady away....
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Coral
June 12, 2015 at 12:40 PM
Hehe! I know, I felt bad for the poor major, having to watch YYS to get the girl also on the big screen...
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21 Catali7
June 11, 2015 at 9:51 PM
The comment about JW throwing herself into a fire had me crying with laughter!! I swear, these recaps are so much better than watching the actual episode. I really REALLY wanted to like you, Warm and Cozy. Why are you doing this to me? :(
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fgb4877
June 11, 2015 at 11:44 PM
For me more than the Drama itself, is the comments here that makes my viewing experience :) .
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Catali7
June 11, 2015 at 11:58 PM
I went and watched the episode, and it was so anti climactic! There were no warm and fuzzies when GW kissed her-only a mild apathy tinged with the faintest colors of irritation.
The comments here are officially better than the drama.
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windsun33
June 12, 2015 at 10:12 AM
Apparently not doing that great in Korea either. Not terrible ratings, but not doing exactly great. Mask is beating it about 50% better.
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Catali7
June 12, 2015 at 3:40 PM
Snap. Have you watched Mask yet? Is it good? I need a new drama to watch :)
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Lunatic4KD
June 12, 2015 at 10:58 PM
Mask is amazing! Watch it.
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22 mccooks
June 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM
I wonder if Gun-woo is expecting Joon Joo to love him the way he loves Ji Won, like it's the truest expression he understands about romantic love. Instead, he is seeing in Joon Joo a healthy response to betrayal, rather than his own idiotic idealism. I would love it if JJ's example finally triggers GW's release from herpes girl. Wouldn't it be great if JJ taught GW what it looks like to love himself. I hope he ditches JW in a cataclysmic humiliation.
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fgb4877
June 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM
... He is expecting indeed fairy dust. By his logic about sincerity in the moment, Jun-Joo carving a knife in his chest because she felt mad when he sold her gold key to buy champagne at the moment would have been a natural and really honest thing to do.
But there are some stupid people that thinks that love is endurance, and foolishly puts that love under stress and through mistreatment, and then they get disenchanted or even mad because it ends. Love is the flourishing of trust in so many ways, anything that undermines that trust also erodes love.
Love is also a compromise that puts your empathy to test: If he/she did that to me, Would I be glad?. Even Agape (Love that trascends) asks not to be mistreated. There are rules about love. Don't be fooled into thinking you have the power, the upper hand and that you can do anything and confront no consequences. JW has eroded all the goodwill she had from Gun-Woo. And him calling her a liar is proof of that.
My take is that JJ's treatment on GW is starting to release the Ugh-Yeo disease, since she had been there for him, and gave him an example by showing what a warm relationship is. In fact I think GW sees JW at this point as a friend he cares for and accepts (as a way to care for and accept who his mother was) but with some limits: as we have seen JJ is out of them. Him putting limits is a mark that he is starting to fall apart from her, since creating borders is part of diferentiating him from her.
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23 wonder10
June 11, 2015 at 9:54 PM
This recap totally summed up what I felt about this episode. I'm so done with GW's bs, I was rooting for him from the beginning of the series because he and JJ would make such a cute couple but not anymore! I felt sooo sad for Wook because he kept on getting stood up. I mean JJ went to the restaurant/flower field with him but she still had GW on her mind. I don't know if I can root for GW even if he changes. I guess we'll have to see.
Don't even get me started on JW! I mean she is so irrelevant and I hate the fact that she still has some kind of control on GW. I just wish she would leave the island and and live in Seoul with other materialistic people. I really hope that JJ starts leaning towards Wook (though very unlikely) because I would be sooo happy! Please drama do not disappoint with next week's episodes! *fingers crossed*
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24 wookah
June 11, 2015 at 10:01 PM
Geon Woo still hasn't got his head on straight and my patience has reached its limit. I'm so sick of seeing GW and JJ's relationship go round and round like a merry-go-round. Either grow the hell up and confess to JJ or let her go (preferably to the mayor - cause he's just so wonderful).
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Catali7
June 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM
+1,000,000,000
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redd
June 12, 2015 at 12:35 AM
+1,000,000,000,000
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Elena
June 12, 2015 at 12:38 PM
You are so on point. I also want JJ to dump him, he's not likeable anymore...
However, I do not want her to accept the major. She never felt attraction and it would be kind of sad. I would prefer her to meet a nice new guy that is really good to her, someone that she likes. Time for JJ to stop liking this idiot GW (sorry YYS, I'm still your number 1 fan).
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25 Aigoooo
June 11, 2015 at 10:17 PM
Did not buy that kiss at all as progress. I thought it was more like a kiss to keep her in check because she is starting to waver. Maybe she can disappear for a bit with the mayor. I think GW needs to experience a bit of a mental breakdown to give that idiotic brain of his a jump start.
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26 susan
June 11, 2015 at 10:19 PM
I'm just watching for the recipes at this point.
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fgb4877
June 12, 2015 at 12:13 AM
I saw it on Good Drama and they didn't show any recipe nor advances on episode 11. What did I miss?.
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susan
June 12, 2015 at 6:48 AM
Ooh! They do them at the end and they're very nice!
MyAsianTV is where I'm watching.
So far,
Seaweed and rapeseed flower salad
Conch seaweed soup
Mel (anchovy) noodles
Abalone rice
Citron tea
Seafood pizza
Spicy rice cakes
Spicy meat (pork) soup with fernbrake
Hallabong orange sherbet
No recipe ep ten :-( tear...
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Cocobeans
June 12, 2015 at 10:34 AM
Why is ther not a drooling emoticon available!! i demand a droolie !!!
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Herfy
June 12, 2015 at 11:42 AM
That's it. I'm driving to a Korean restaurant this weekend. I live in Texas but am lucky to be in a big city with lots of food choices!
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susan
June 12, 2015 at 11:48 AM
You'd be even luckier if you lived by me - I'd invite you all over and cook all kinds of Asian food!
genuinecity
June 12, 2015 at 11:57 PM
Lol.
Have you actually tried 'em?
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susan
June 13, 2015 at 1:34 AM
Mel noodles, orange tea and seafood pizza. Conch and abalone are not easy to come by.... :-) I'm going to make the sherbet next.
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27 Camille W
June 11, 2015 at 10:19 PM
Im a bit angry with that last scene. Like Jung Joo I feel like I've had enough. Why does Guen Woo play games? And im kinda confused with that scene. Did he kiss JJ to spite her or...WHAT? Then to see poor JJ's heart broken face. Dude ur so cruel.
P..s thankfully we got a kiss. I was like will he do it?! And then the critic/fangirl in me was like, couldnt GW have put in some more passion in there? But the actress who played JJ did well. I could see her feelings very well, from letting go, to bliss to pain and confusion. If GW is just doing this for spite then I wont find it so easy to forgive him. On the othervside, I was like Mischievous Kiss moment yay!
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28 ck1Oz
June 11, 2015 at 10:19 PM
I am so over GW. No I didn't swoon over the kiss. The last statement? That was so dog in the manger and selfish.
At this point in time I am wondering why I am watching this drama.
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29 dramaqueen4
June 11, 2015 at 10:21 PM
Ugh. I have tried so hard, but I just can't get behind this drama. The mayor is great and I like JJ, but I've gotten to the point where I can't stand GW and his manipulative attitude.
When this drama started, I was intrigued at the possibility of the Hong Sisters creating a "nice guy" lead, but now he's my least favorite of their male characters. Even though his concern for JJ was sweet, the second female lead is too underdeveloped for me to get the fixation with her--or his motives in playing with JJ's feelings. As recently as two episodes ago, I still held out hope. But now, I'm making So Ji Sub's "get lost" gesture from Master's Sun every time this jerk in sheep's clothing is on-screen.
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fgb4877
June 12, 2015 at 12:19 AM
It is because all other male leads were congruent with themselves and the female lead. Even the stuntman in My Girlfriend is a Gumiho was consistently coward from start to finish, and tried to get rid of her. But when they warmed to their ladies they became steadfast, and even before them usually the surprises they gave to their ladies were positive when things really mattered.
This character does not have a backbone and is utterly unreliable.
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30 cmak
June 11, 2015 at 10:34 PM
This episode had my blood pressure rising steadily as it went on, and that rarely happens in a rom-com! Or at least, it shouldn't anger me this much. I have watched a many a Hong Sisters drama, and I am already 10 episodes in so I don't think I'll drop it at this point, but I think it's sad to say that I enjoyed watching "Big" throughout the series more than I am enjoying this drama up to this point (sans "Big's" ending because we all know that was a horrible mess). I haven't hate-watched a drama in a while--the last one being "Heirs"--but I feel so much animosity towards GW! If YYS didn't add in that touch of naivete so well I would be spewing hate at him 100%. When he kissed her I actually felt mad that he would do that without being sincere about his feelings knowing how she feels. And then when he rubbed it in her face my eyes just about rolled to the back of my head.
1) GW is a grown-ass man so I don't understand all the push-pull. They are too old to be playing this game and I am over watching JJ put her heart out there honestly and have him toy around with it.
2) I wish JJ would call GW out on his BS more, but I think she's holding her ground pretty well considering how much back-and-forth he's doing. BUT, I feel SOOOO sad for the mayor because she's basically using him too, even though he's allowing himself to be used. Sigh I would be so on board with JJ and the mayor getting together. He's sweet and considerate and brought her flowers! C'mon show, if you want us to be rooting for GW you shouldn't make the mayor so appealing.
3) Of course another relationship thwarted by differences in class. I felt bad for Hae Sil but at the same time I feel she is old enough too to approach hyung and have an open conversation about what a bitch his sister is and what is going on between them. I guess I'm just a very direct person, especially when it comes to relationships, so when there are misunderstandings just for misunderstandings' sake it drives me crazy. Just communicate! Why do dramas make that so difficult -.-
Out of the five dramas I am watching, I'm sad this is the one that is the least entertaining because I had the most expectations for it. Hopefully (sigh and I say this every week) there is more progress with GW because there are only a few weeks left and I don't think I've ever made it this far into a drama actively rooting against the lead hero to be with the heroine.
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31 Mandy
June 11, 2015 at 10:36 PM
I give up... on myself. Just as I was wondering how I could possibly still be rooting so wholeheartedly for a jerk as bad as Baek Gun-woo, I actually went ahead and swooned over that kiss.
If I were honest, I relate to how protective he is of himself, how much he hates the idea of breaking boundaries and just letting himself go. Its extremely relatable I'd describe myself to be very similar too. The problem is that while he's out to protect himself, his feelings and his heart, he openly hurts others in the process. But hearing him admit he actually thinks of himself as a bad person - it makes him admirable in a twisted way. There's no misconception in his mind that behind the happy, easy attitude, there's a selfishness that knows to hurt those around him all the time.
In that effect, it is somewhat refreshing to see a male lead from a HS drama start off as 'nice' (sorta) only to discover he has a crappy side in him. Its almost always the other way around and watching Gun-woo overcome his fears and just allow himself to get hurt, I think that's what I'm really looking forward to. That being said, in no way am I defending his actions. This kid is such a jerk and he really needs a good, hard kick where it hurts the most. I'm just admitting that despite his BS, I still love him and whether thats YYS's magic or not, I'm rooting for him to get his head together before its too late.
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Lunatic4KD
June 12, 2015 at 11:07 PM
I'm with you 100% @Mandy. This is exactly what this drama is all about and I have known people like this in my own life. They do things self-protectively to test the waters - to see if someone could REALLY love them. It's a test - and a testament to some big-ass trauma he went through as a child when he made judgments about the relationships he saw around him and what he learned. This script is actually 100% right on and accurate and fascinating and intelligent because of it. It's funny to me to read all the upset comments when it seems so obvious how tender and real this is to a person't struggles in real life to be loved. I am LOVING this and am looking forward to the obvious conclusion.
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32 apple pie
June 11, 2015 at 10:52 PM
What the writing want Guen Woo to be !!! love Guen Woo is so lovely from the ep 1 to 8 but now what happen, the kiss did not feel please, it seems very sad actually !!! Help !!!
my lovely actor Yoo Yeon Seok , don't waste him , the writing doing a bad thing to him !
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33 Camille W
June 11, 2015 at 10:59 PM
This recap is spot on tho. I felt like the kiss was suppose to be a big moment but it just was flat. While I will admit that the kiss got me a little happy. When I thought abt it, it was half baked. If anything im upset and I feel it for JJ. This episode is basically ep 9 extended. Or actually ep 8's ending recycled for the second time. This is the Hong Sister's laziest drama. And I usually like their work. I might have to think twice b4 choosing their drama in the future. The non-development here is sad bc I actually looked forward to this week's eps. But im not leaving. I'll see it til the end.
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34 Gidget
June 11, 2015 at 11:05 PM
I don't understand why we're giving JJ a free pass. She's making pretty bad decisions. In fact, the real problem isn't GW. It's that JJ is interested in a man who treats her so poorly. She should have more self respect.
I just can't agree that someone selfish is a realistic or sensible love interest; and finding someone unselfish (virtuous) is an unrealistic objective and would be a bore. I'd say it's foolish for her to be interested in someone who's inherently selfish. And sensible to hold out until she finds someone who values her enough to treat her well.
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Z
June 12, 2015 at 6:01 PM
This!. Once a man declares to me that he's only treating me nice in order to string me along, the magic is gone, no? What could she possibly still like about him. I honestly have less sympathy for her than I do for those dumb Candies for fall for cold Cheabol Darcies.
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KDaddict?JCW
June 12, 2015 at 7:54 PM
It takes two to tango. One has to sell (whatever garbage (s)he is selling), and the other has to bite.
Jiwon sells whatever it is that GW wants, and keeps wanting, despite her repeated betrayals or broken promises. GW is offering sthg that JJ wants, and wants badly enough that she keeps hoping, despite his ridiculous behavior.
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35 etroxon
June 11, 2015 at 11:08 PM
this drama is pretty disappointing for me =p hong sisters, have you lost your touch?
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susan
June 12, 2015 at 6:57 AM
Did they ever have one?
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windsun33
June 12, 2015 at 10:15 AM
The first two or three they did were decent and broke some new ground, but ever since they have just been rehashing the same old tropes and clichés.
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36 Aqee
June 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM
Gun Woo is an ass.
Wook is adorable.
Enough said !
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redd
June 12, 2015 at 12:36 AM
I would fall for Wook in real life. For sure.
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Adal
June 12, 2015 at 9:27 AM
Me too! Anyone who would go into the trouble of picking wildflowers for me and looking at me with those adorable puppy eyes certainly has my vote!
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37 alwaesboo
June 11, 2015 at 11:52 PM
Geon Woo is such an interesting character! So different from the typical male leads. Even though he's an ass, I love how he could set down that 100mil won and pick up the flower instead. Yet when approaching Jung Joo he's still failing horribly. Even though he goes around in circles with his rock, paper scissors,... I think geon woo is just an overthinker, which is more uncommon for men, but really... he's been playing these games ever since he's been on the leash for mok ji won. that's probably the only way he knows how to "mildang", or communicate his love.
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songsong
June 12, 2015 at 1:04 AM
Well said. I also find him an interesting non=typical k-drama male lead, Amen to that.
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38 simplyshirinie
June 11, 2015 at 11:57 PM
I still can't get over what happened at the end of episode 8... Was that even real? Seems to be no follow up...
I'm still shipping the OTP hard but I want both characters to change - JJ to toughen up and GW to mature. Please happen soon.
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39 Sabrina Lim
June 11, 2015 at 11:57 PM
"Go find a fire, and die in it. It will be fueled by the hatred of your viewers and thus burn eternally."
pwahahahaha....exactly. and I really think her face looks very very stiff. poor acting skills?
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40 geese
June 12, 2015 at 12:20 AM
i don't like all the word/emotion/feeling push and pull games...
i never like this pseudo in between relationship assumptions i want a clear yes or no...
nope i demand a yes if its yes and no if it is no...
do you love her or not...
for the life of me please clear it up sooner or else....
hmp hmp hmp hmp...
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41 NiaIpeh
June 12, 2015 at 12:22 AM
I love YYS (GW), and his cuteness, and his adorable childish smile... It's not that he's toying with LJJ, he's just unsure about his feeling. He'll find that he loves her, after he loves himself. His life is so miserable, and complicated. He'd better find who he is, who his father is, what's wrong with his life, does he really love JW, what he actually wants in his life.. That kind of questions, should be answered before he finally find the meaning of being loved and loving someone.
Just my opinion
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Apple Pie
June 12, 2015 at 11:46 AM
Yes ! Yes ! Yes!
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42 songsong
June 12, 2015 at 1:05 AM
Like they say a kiss is still a kiss in Casablanca......
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43 Coily Lozada
June 12, 2015 at 1:08 AM
I guess the ending scene is intended to make us anticipate the next episode like crazy.. is the kiss scene a tactic or the start of GW's admission that he has really fallen in love with JJ.. Coz at the back of minds, we're still rooting for the main characters :D
GW is a little frustrating, but nothing infuririates more than Ji Won haha :D
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44 DD
June 12, 2015 at 1:29 AM
A few episodes ago, I thought Hae-shil may have been Jung-joo's mom, but I don't know now.
Also, could Mr, Gong be Gun-woo's dad? He may have been poor before, but with his fingers in so many pies, he may have gotten rich and that's when Gun-woo's mom would've taken notice
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45 Me
June 12, 2015 at 1:39 AM
One of Hong sisters' crab drama. Boring and frustrating plot.
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46 Jira Panmanee
June 12, 2015 at 1:50 AM
Obviously, I find more interest and joy reading JB's recap and viewers' comments than watching the drama itself!!!
Thank you everyone for your contribution, you've made my day.
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47 alpha
June 12, 2015 at 1:56 AM
I actually love Gun Woo. He is so different from other leads. At least he doesnt treat female lead like a trash. He says everything as it is and doesnt hide anything and treats Jung Joo as special.
He has never received love before so this time he wants to hang on it a bit longer. Although I was also frustrated a big, let Gun Woo have time to think ok? Its not ao easy ro have a personality shift.
I loved this episode and the kiss.
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Apple Pie
June 12, 2015 at 11:48 AM
Its fair to GW
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48 korini
June 12, 2015 at 3:15 AM
My silly thoughts. Yes, the kisses (both brother's and Gun Woo's) were bland but I see in general in korean dramas an extra turn to conservatism. A kiss is a peck on the lips and no cleavage is allowed, but at the same time, the ladies wear the shortest possible pants paired with high heels. Weird, eh?
Anyway, I think our Gun Woo is not as you say a grown man, on the contrary he has principles but he's an inmature, pampered boy. He's the youngest and spoiled by all child in his family. He is probably a bit surprised by his feelings and I believe what the Hong Sisters are trying to say, is that both brothers are actually falling in love for the first time in their life, thus the push-and-pull stupid games. The brother seems more determined. And though I'm usually annoyed by the "total make-over" and "dressing-up", I thought in this case it was an effort to say "I want to include you in my world".
The Diver Lady may be more mature in age and character, but she's been a widow for thirty years leading in reality the life of much older and secluded woman while romantically, she has the experience of 19year old. So when the time comes to make the leap of faith, one word from the sister is enough to make her hold back.
On the whole I continue to feel "warm and cozy" about this drama and I find myself still surprised in a good way by some of its elements (like the rational explanation of his devotion to unlikeable girl in ep.9). My only objection and fear is the Gatsby-like-parents front. Hongs in general don't write well about parents and family stuff and in especially in Big, the result was a convoluted, overcomplicated train-wreck.
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osmanthustea
June 12, 2015 at 9:48 AM
"The Diver Lady may be more mature in age and character, but she’s been a widow for thirty years leading in reality the life of much older and secluded woman while romantically, she has the experience of 19year old. So when the time comes to make the leap of faith, one word from the sister is enough to make her hold back."
I didn't think about it that way. That's a good point.
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49 youcallitwinter
June 12, 2015 at 5:01 AM
YYS is so incredibly well-cast here, any other actor and about 70% of the audience would have left due to the sheer frustration that his character invokes. The shoelace-tying and I'll-tell-you-what-I'll-choose-in-rock-paper-scissors scenes, though, completely reminded me of Seung-chan/Cindy in Producers, maybe because it was so recent and those two scenes were a part of the same segment. The last kiss definitely reminded me of Seung-jo/Ha-ni in Playful Kiss, right down to the dialogues.
At this point, I'm really hoping for a Delightful Girl Chun-hyang moment where the female lead goes away and is successful on her own, and the male lead realizes how badly he's been treating her. What they definitely need right now is a separation of some sort, or, at least, to not be living in the same house, since the living arrangement currently is completely antithetical for her sorting out her feelings. It's almost painful to watch her hope for more sincerity from each succeeding "nice" gesture, even though he's explicitly stated that he wants to keep her interest alive. It's so typical Hong Sisters that every character is so self-aware (Geun-woo about his selfishness, Jung-joo that her emotions are being played with), and yet that self-awareness never concretizes into actually making an effort to change.
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Apple Pie
June 12, 2015 at 12:00 PM
Sure ! no one else but YYS can handle the charactor of GW. However, this drama seems let KSR becoming the main lead !
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Elena
June 12, 2015 at 12:32 PM
100% agree. YYS is awesome, he is good at playing bad guys, by the way. And if it was not him, I would have drop this already.
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50 Anna
June 12, 2015 at 5:05 AM
Here's what will happen next. .our male lead gets punched and left behind. I am sure mayor will ask her to run the restaurant that ajuma left.snooty evil girl Il will confess now that our male lead has money but she ll get dumped. Our male lead realize it was not love (; however it's late for him because the kiss did a lot of bad than good....hehe. the guys a jerk. If only he was not this cute
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