Falling for Innocence: Episode 8
by HeadsNo2
Big changes are in store for our hero this hour, as he realizes that the head and heart aren’t as disjointed as he’d originally thought they were—transplant or no transplant. He also figures out (with a lot of outside help and counseling) that he can actually decide the course of his own life, and that seems to come as a shock to him. But at least now he can start making a difference doing what he believes in, which I’m not sure is something he’s ever attempted before. It’s amazing what a little conviction can do.
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EPISODE 8 RECAP
One kiss, then another. And another. But just as both Min-ho and Soon-jung are beginning to lose themselves in the moment, a sudden bump jostles them out of it. They are riding in the back of a car that’s being towed, after all.
While Joon-hee settles on an engagement ring, Ok-hyun’s forensic analyst reports that there is no blood to be found on Joon-hee’s car. Ok-hyun doesn’t want to believe it and insists he perform the test again, which makes me think that she’s not that great of a detective if all she really wants to do is bend the narrative to prove Joon-hee killed Dong-wook.
Joon-hee reports to work the next day as acting CEO, but finds that he doesn’t like ordering Soon-jung around the old fashioned way. In front of the other board members, he happily proclaims that he can’t wait for her to start working in his office.
Even though both he and Soon-jung have spent a night thinking about their kiss, Min-ho still can’t seem to get it off his mind the next day. Oblivious to his emerging soft side, Ji-hyun prepares him for a meeting with the chairman of Gold Partners, where he’ll discuss who he’ll sell Hermia to.
She doesn’t understand that Min-ho’s reluctance is because he cares now, so when he claims that Hermia can’t be sold since it hasn’t yet gone bankrupt, Ji-hyun tosses out that it’s only a matter of time. Besides, isn’t Min-ho excited that he could become the next vice chairman of Gold Partners? (Short answer: Not really.)
Soon-jung becomes increasingly nervous at lunch when her coworkers discuss boys and intimacy, since she can’t help but be reminded of her kiss with Min-ho. But Joon-hee choosing to sit at her table sends her coworkers scurrying in order to give them privacy.
She’s a bit uncomfortable about how this will look to others, especially because Joon-hee’s using banmal with her and putting food on her tray. Joon-hee couldn’t care less about what others think, and asks her to dinner tomorrow night.
She acquiesces if only to get him to stop embarrassing her by feeding her. Hah.
Secretary Oh laments the fact that Min-ho’s car broke down the other day, since he’ll need it tomorrow to meet with Hermia’s prospective buyers. It’s funny how mum Min-ho gets when the breakdown is mentioned, but then he asks, just hypothetically, how he would act if a woman who hated him kissed him when she was drunk.
Of course, Secretary Oh knows instantly that Min-ho is talking about himself, and asks if he—er, “that idiot”—likes the girl. “A little,” Min-ho shrugs. So Secretary Oh’s advice is that he absolutely not cling to her after just one kiss. We don’t hear what he says next.
Papa Ma approaches Soon-jung with a new product planning report the central factory had been working on with Hermia’s research and development team, convinced that it could be enough to revive the company.
He wants her to take it to Min-ho in the hopes that he’ll want to save and nurture what his father once built instead of selling it off to the highest bidder like he plans to do. Soon-jung is at first reluctant, but agrees to try and help.
Soon-jung waits outside Min-ho’s gate and frets, ending up in such a state that she all but jumps when he appears behind her. He steadies her, but then takes a more hands-off approach as he remembers the advice Secretary Oh gave him: Girls like bad boys, so the more he acts like a jerk, the more she’ll like him. What could possibly go wrong?
It’s cute that in the flashback Min-ho had enough self-awareness to note, “I’m always the bad guy, so why did women not like me?” Hah. But in the present, his attempts to act cool fail as soon as Soon-jung hands over Papa ma’s planning report.
“Can’t you please give this company one more chance?” she asks, before he can get a word in edgewise. “Your father devoted his life to the company. It’d be a shame if you were to close its doors like this.”
But he interrupts her not to talk about the report, but because they haven’t said a word to each other since the kissing incident. She claims that she thought it best to keep silent since they’d clearly made a mistake, something which Min-ho takes offense to. She may have been drunk, but he was being sincere.
He’s actually hurt that she’s only there to talk about work, and none of her work-related apologies seem to land with him. So he switches to business mode and tells her to get that report out of his sight—did she think that sentimental garbage about rebuilding the company would get to him?
Soon-jung replies that she did, because she sees his secretly helping Chairman Kang and his solitary mourning period after his death as proof that he’s changed. He remembers how she’d told him before the kiss that it wasn’t too late for him to start leading a better life, and wonders if that’s what she wants him to do now.
But he’s scared of what the future might hold if he were to forsake everything he’s known to be that better person, and yells at her when she tries to intervene. He won’t change his mind or the way he’s lived so far. He’s going to keep doing things the way he always has.
“I’ll protect you,” Soon-jung proclaims. “I will help and protect you so that you won’t be ridiculed or confused. I’m being sincere,” she adds, that word holding extra meaning now that he used it when talking about their kiss.
In order to pave the way for Hermia to be sold and for their job titles to remain secure before, during, and after, Joon-hee makes clandestine arrangements with Director Yoon to break up and silence the strike currently underway at the central factory.
They’ll make it look like Gold Partners was behind it in order to deflect the blame—as long as they make sure Hermia goes bankrupt, Joon-hee adds, they’ll be rewarded handsomely by Gold Partners.
On the day of his meeting with the CEO of Gold Partners, Min-ho can’t help but think about what Soon-jung said to him the night before. “You came back to life from the brink of death,” she’d added. “Couldn’t you live a different life if you were given a second chance?”
She stressed that the people who were suffering most from his revenge are the hard-working and sincere employees of the company. It was his father’s dream to build that company, so she’d earnestly pleaded with Min-ho not to do anything that would disgrace his father’s name again.
But his answer is still the same, as he gives Soon-jung the report she purposefully left with him in the hopes he’d look over it. Her only job now is to go to the central factory and collect some account books for him, which means she has to call Papa Ma to tell him the bad news.
She doesn’t know that she’s about to walk into a warzone, since Joon-hee has already made the arrangements to break up the strike. Min-ho only finds out belatedly from Ji-hyun, who couldn’t be any happier that a bunch of people are about to get hurt very badly.
Min-ho heads off to the central factory to try and warn Soon-jung of the danger, but the buses full of club-wielding strike breakers get there before he does. They attack the well-meaning strikers, and Min-ho arrives just in time to see Soon-jung attempting to help an injured Papa Ma…
…Only moments before one of the thugs bludgeons her on the head. Blood trickles from her forehead as the world goes black.
Min-ho sits by her bedside in the hospital as Secretary Oh informs him that she suffered a minor concussion, but will otherwise be okay. As a sickly looking Min-ho gets up for some air, the injured employees from the central factory point their fingers at him and blame him for everything.
He doesn’t correct their misconception, but instead rails at them for being so reckless with their lives: “Who told you guys to do this? Why did you risk your lives over something you can’t change? What is this measly company to you?!”
Papa Ma answers from the crowd that it’s because they wanted to live like humans—and because people like Min-ho, who aren’t even human, treat them as less than human.
Min-ho’s anger seems to be directed at their plight and not at them as he asks them if today taught them that they can’t win in a fight against inhuman people, which only riles them up further. They think he’s confessing to the blame, only for Soon-jung to call for all of them to stop.
Standing between Min-ho and the angry mob, she proclaims Min-ho’s innocence and adds that him showing up to the protest is proof that he didn’t order the strike breakers. At her insistence, they calm down.
Looking pretty ill himself, Min-ho asks Soon-jung why she took his side, only for her to say that she didn’t—she just told them the truth. She knows he wasn’t behind the strike breakers because he wouldn’t have sent her to the factory if he knew she’d get hurt.
Flustered, Min-ho mutters for her to stop acting like she knows everything. “I promised you that I would protect you,” Soon-jung adds. Then she asks if he came to save her, and thanks him for it. Min-ho just gets more flustered as he says more to himself than her, “I’m going crazy because of you.”
“Who am I that you’re grateful toward me? Who am I for you to protect? Why do I keep getting tangled up with you?” he asks, genuinely confused. Today was an important day for him, yet he still dropped everything to go to her. He just can’t understand it, or her.
Ji-hyun is hopping mad that Min-ho missed the meeting with the CEO of Gold Partners, even though Joon-hee did a good job on his own. Min-ho can make up for it by meeting with the CEO and a prospective Hermia buyer at the central factory in a few hours.
While Joon-hee prepares a big spread for his dinner date with Soon-jung (which we know, based on drama history, that if a second male lead puts that much time and effort into anything the first female lead will not be attending), Soon-jung hears from a little birdie at work that Joon-hee might’ve been behind the strike breakers.
Joon-hee finds out that she might know at the same time, and sees her in her current state. She looks at him accusingly and draws back when he tries to touch her bandage, asking, “Why don’t you ask how I got hurt?”
Min-ho takes his internal troubles to Doctor Jo, emphatically explaining that his head and his heart seem at fundamental odds, and he doesn’t know which to choose.
“I keep finding myself wanting to be a better person for the woman who makes my heart race. I want to live sharing the same dream with her. But this… isn’t me. It’s just a physical symptom. It isn’t me,” Min-ho says.
Doctor Jo disagrees, though he admits it could be because he believes that God had a hand in Min-ho’s new heart. Then he proceeds to state the obvious: The reason for Min-ho’s revenge is now gone, he has a new heart and thus a new lease on life. As long as Min-ho realizes that his new heart is as much a part of him now as his head, and not some foreign body operating with a will of its own inside him.
Soon-jung confronts Joon-hee over what people have been saying, only for him to admit that he did call the strike breakers. She’s taken completely aback, horrified that he’d do such a thing when it resulted in so many injuries, and so much lost hope.
He argues that someone else would’ve done it if he hadn’t, which causes her to gasp, “Joon-hee-ya, why have you changed so much?” He tries to explain that this is just the way of the world, and that the factory workers would be better off finding jobs somewhere else—Hermia is past the point of saving anyway.
They go back and forth over the lack of merit in his argument before Soon-jung admits that she’s starting to become afraid of him. The Joon-hee she sees now isn’t the one she thought she knew, which shatters him. Out of all people, he was at least hoping she would understand him and accept him.
There’s a noticeable shift when Soon-jung stops calling him the familiar “Joon-hee-ya” and switches to the very formal “Chairman Lee,” adding that she’ll still do her job but that he shouldn’t expect congratulations from her.
Min-ho again skips out on his meeting with the CEO of Gold Partners because he’s had a change of heart, and shows up to crash Joon-hee’s board meeting instead.
What’s up for vote is Joon-hee’s candidacy for CEO, since it hasn’t been made official through a ceremony yet. Currently he’s the only candidate, at least until Min-ho submits his own name.
Joon-hee is unsettled by this sudden move, and even more so when Min-ho says that his goal as CEO will be to revive the company. When Joon-hee says he’s lost his mind Min-ho doesn’t deny it, but claims he lost it when he witnessed the violence at the central factory yesterday. That catches Soon-jung’s attention.
To further upset things, Min-ho declares that they won’t be voting on their permanent CEO today—it’ll be put to the shareholders. Oh, and Min-ho kind of maybe bought all his uncle’s shares in Hermia so that he owns the biggest stake in the company now. Even though the stocks will become worthless if Hermia were to go bankrupt now.
When Joon-hee asks what’s behind Min-ho’s sudden change, he answers, “I couldn’t understand why I had to keep living the way I used to. There’s no happy medium in life, and you can’t have everything you want. That’s why I want to decide which life to live. No matter what anyone says, I’ll save this company.”
Outside the meeting, Joon-hee again asks Min-ho what’s gotten into him, only for him to say that he realized yesterday that he has something he has to protect. “This company and Kim Soon-jung,” he clarifies. He won’t let Joon-hee have either Hermia or Soon-jung now. The fight is on.
Soon-jung approaches Min-ho to thank him for what he’s done, only for him to comically shush her. It doesn’t work, and he childishly pouts that this is all her fault. And that he’s afraid of heading into unknown territory—how did his father live with this burden?
“I already told you that I would protect you,” Soon-jung reminds him with a smile. “I’ll use all that I have to help you. Until you can become a good leader like your father, I’ll be by your side to cheer you on. I’ll help you.”
Min-ho pulls her into a hug, suddenly shocked by the fast beating of his heart and his own actions. But he asks if she could just let him lean on her a while, and maybe pat his back comfortingly. She does, which, aww.
So while Joon-hee goes on a destructive rampage about Min-ho throwing his hat in the CEO ring, Min-ho walks Soon-jung home and orders her to take three days to rest. “And I’m sorry,” he adds. “I’m sorry that you got hurt.”
Secretary Oh gets a similar answer when it comes asking Min-ho why the sudden change, since Min-ho blames it on his heart and Soon-jung. He doesn’t really give Secretary Oh a choice in staying with his crazy bottom when he tears up his plane ticket to America (remember that other job Min-ho’s supposed to have?).
But Secretary Oh manages to blow Min-ho’s mind when he remarks that now that Min-ho and Soon-jung are on the same side, there’s no reason for them not to be in love. Min-ho falls asleep that night with a lollipop in his mouth and a wide smile on his face.
Joon-hee returns to the dinner setup where he’d planned to propose to Soon-jung, unveiling a giant picture of her he had printed and hung on the wall. He stares at Mega Soon-jung regretfully, interrupted only when his father calls after hearing the news of Min-ho’s CEO upset.
After his father hangs up, something slips out of a bundle he picks up: It’s Dong-wook’s cell phone. In a very brief flashback, we see that he was the one who ferreted the still-ringing phone away from the crime scene, ergo he must’ve been the one driving the car that hit him. Dun dun dun.
And no sooner does Soon-jung go to visit Papa Ma does Secretary Oh find out that it was Papa Ma’s son who donated his heart to Min-ho. Min-ho has to temporarily drop his plans to surprise Soon-jung with a lollipop bouquet (“I’m giving her what I like best!”) in order to track down his heart’s last living family member.
Though he was explicitly warned not to be so obvious, he goes right up to Papa Ma’s house, readies to ring the doorbell…
…And gets caught outside by Soon-jung, wondering what happy coincidence brought him to Papa Ma’s house. Papa Ma, of course, is less enthused—he and Min-ho recognize each other sourly from the factory fiasco, even though only one of them knows who the other really is.
COMMENTS
This episode was a nice change of pace from previous weeks, and I’d pin that squarely on Min-ho having a solid goal and motivation to accomplish it, which is definitely a change from where we were. Because try as this show might (and has, repeatedly) to tell us that the Min-ho Of The Past was motivated by cold hard revenge, they could’ve done a whole lot more in the way of showing us that. And by failing to establish that early on, what we got was something more detrimental to both our hero and story as a whole, unless we’re supposed to count things like Joon-hee making Min-ho look like an angel by comparison as a character trait.
I’d peg the trouble with Min-ho on an unwillingness to have him really commit to anything, despite all claims to the contrary. It’s almost weird now to hear characters tell their perspective as though they all knew that the only thing keeping Min-ho alive until now was his desire for revenge, when it so clearly just wasn’t. But then it so clearly wasn’t much of anything else, either. There’s a certain point where the cellular memory idea becomes more of a crutch or catch-all when it’s used to explain away idiosyncrasies in Min-ho that vary by the day, instead of showing a more gradual shift from the man he was (and who no one seemed to know, not even him) into the man he’s slowly becoming.
Don’t get me wrong, I do like the man he’s becoming, because it means he’s at least becoming something. He spent the first half of the show only kinda-sorta-not-really wanting the most ambiguous revenge ever, which seemingly centered around his uncle seizing Hermia from his father but not revolving at all around Hermia itself, which Soon-jung keeps having to remind him is almost inseparable from the idea of his father. We haven’t been shown that Min-ho is such a filial son that he was out to snatch Hermia from his uncle based on principle alone, because if that were the case, it wouldn’t make sense that he was so interested in selling the company once his uncle was no longer running it. Why did he need a new heart to see that selling Hermia would be tantamount to taking it away from his father all over again?
More importantly, would even Min-ho be able to state the original aim of his revenge? Was it to take Hermia from his uncle and then just do what his employers wanted because…? And if the answer to all that lies in him just being a bad guy, you can’t buy into it without disregarding Min-ho’s amorphous motivation up until this point, because it’d mean he was just floating around doing things for purposes unknown. I’d even buy it if he were just that greedy and ambitious before, but even those ideas weren’t really hammered home. Up until Min-ho showed up at the board meeting all I found myself wondering was what he actually wanted.
But this week does mark a turning point by using Min-ho’s new lease on life to create tangible goals for his near future. We may never know what his old goals were, but at least now we can definitively say that he wants to save the company and ride off into the sunset with the girl his heart can’t help but beat for. That’s the wonder of character motivation at work, even though by that logic, we should all be sailing the Good Ship Joon-hee. But hey, on the bright side, at least he’s not a murderer. He’s just second lead, which might actually be worse.
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1 aoiaheen
April 27, 2015 at 8:10 PM
Thank you for the recap. There were so many cute things about Minho this episode. I loved how he wonders why women , who supposedy all for bad guys, didn't fall for him when he has always been a bad guy.
And I love his hug , since I'm anyway leaning on you , can you pat me? Awww so kid like.
I agree about his earlier motivations. He seemed not to know which direction he wanted to go with the revenge. I'm glad he has a purpose now.
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2 lara4liwa
April 27, 2015 at 8:13 PM
whoaaah finally here, love that Min-Ho yellow pastel outfit, thank u HeadsNo2 ^__^
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3 KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 8:13 PM
Poor Min Ho has only ever been driven by the burring desire for revenge. As Soon J pointed out to him earlier, it was strange revenge to have to dismantle the company that his father built. Now that his uncle is dead, doing so would make even less sense. So, I'm not too surprised that with SJ nudging him, he is beginning to see his task, his reason for living, and his place in the world differently. All Good.
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4 KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 8:16 PM
Sec: If men are bad, women don't like them.
MinH: I was always bad, why didn't women like me?
Sec: Ha ha. Is being a lunatic and being a bad guy the same?
It's a good line from the writer, but it's also the actor's delivery makes this line really funny. It takes so few words to show us that Min H has been living in a way that made no sense prior to meeting SJ.
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5 nasalhazel
April 27, 2015 at 8:21 PM
Yeah, that giant photo of Soon-jung is not at all totally nuts to have hanging on the wall.
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KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 8:29 PM
Ha ha. He isn't quite right in the head, is he? I mean why would you buy an engagement ring, plan a proposal Before the girl has let you out of the friend zone? Before she willingly holds your hand; Before there is even one little peg on the lips? Makes us wonder what kind of idea of romance he has.
But wait till the relationship goes all the way down the tubes, and his obsession turns full blown negative. I'm afraid to find out how far he'd go to bring her pain.
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Camille W
April 28, 2015 at 3:51 PM
Your questions are spot on. Its seems as if Joon Hee is the real crazy bad guy here. I wonder if the writer knows what he/she is doing. Characters seem to float between good and bad all the time. Poor hopeless JH. I was wondering if he was being creepy about liking Soon Jung or maybe he was trying to woo her by showing her that huge photo when he proposed. Idk. But what I know is a broken-hearted and rejected 2nd lead can be a very bad thing. Kinda reminds me of Secret or Bridal Mask where the 2nd leads went crazy evil.
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shin rae mi
April 29, 2015 at 3:43 AM
That was also what happened to Sly and Single Again. The writer turned the second lead into a bad guy. :-(
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Khule WY
April 28, 2015 at 5:17 PM
Haha, I entered from feeling pity to Woah creepy much,he went overboard with the photo but that was a great photo.
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6 KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 8:21 PM
I love the way SJ talks to Min H. She always manages to say exactly the right things to put a balm over his hurting heart.
Like when she tells him no mother would scold her son for coming to see her, but would instead feel sorry for having left him alone in the world; and would ask why he has been living in a way that hurts so much.
And now, she defends him in front of all the protesters, w/o a doubt that smashing the picket line wasn't his idea. That kind of understanding and trust is priceless.
No wonder he looks into her eyes and is a total goner.
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7 lilly
April 27, 2015 at 8:22 PM
Waaa I really like this episode. Thank you for the recap. I enjoyed every moment of this drama
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8 apluszee
April 27, 2015 at 8:22 PM
I (personally) think that the old Minho's only goal was to bring Hermia down or at the very least steal it from his uncle by making it bankrupt, just to pay back what the uncle had done to his parents in the past. It wasn't really a proper revenge, it's just an idea of it. Yknow, by buying/selling Hermia so that his uncle would know how his parents would feel like when Hermia was taken away from them. He wasn't really invested in the idea of taking Hermia for himself nor interested in being the company's president.
but obviously, that has changed now. He never understands why his parents & uncle want to protect the company so much until well Soon-jung comes along, and realises that he didn't want the company to fall in the wrong hands (which I believe why his parents & uncle were trying to do!)
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SpinThePickle
April 28, 2015 at 4:42 AM
Yes, his revenge seemed to be: Hermia is the thing you want most in life. I will take it from you. I only have a short while to live, so I will take it from you in the most expedient way I can think of. I don't care who else gets hurt, the only thing that matters is that you don't have what wasn't supposed to be yours.
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9 Butterfly
April 27, 2015 at 8:23 PM
This drama is far from being flawless, however I enjoyed the OTP moments enormously. He is so lonely and fragile that I can't help but want her to be with him. Their chemistry is awesome. Love both actors.
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10 KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 8:36 PM
The ending also makes me worry. Now that Min Ho finds out his heart belongs to Papa Ma's son (and SJ's fiancé, which he'll find out soon enough), is he going to go into denial, to say that all those feelings for SJ he has been feeling aren't actually his? Just as the inclination to salvage the company is only Papa Ma's son's wish to save his own father's job? And then turn his back on them?
It is only ep 8. If there is none of that going back and forth on Min Ho's part, it is too early to have smooth sailing from here till the end, isn't it?
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annie
April 27, 2015 at 11:29 PM
Yeah I'm nervous about that too - of course this revelation will cause some angst, but I'm hoping they won't go the super obvious route. Min-ho's surprisingly good at taking advice when he's actually asked for it, so I'm hoping he'll take the doctor's words seriously and not totally deny every that happened between him and Soon-jung since the surgery.
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annie
April 27, 2015 at 11:30 PM
*everything that happened
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Fitri Iphiet
April 29, 2015 at 1:19 AM
omo... that's what im afraid of too..
aigooo.. your words make me more curious right now..haha..
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11 jessie
April 27, 2015 at 8:43 PM
I think Min-ho's goals were to ruin his uncle and destroy the company that he felt caused his father and mother's deaths. Soon-jung needed to remind him that destroying Hermia would not bring him the relief he sought, but instead would take him further away from the family he was quite obviously missing. His entire life was based on this paradoxical notion that he couldn't face his father until he avenged him, but to fully avenge him required the destruction of the very thing his father tried so hard to build.
Min-ho's a pretty interesting character. For years Hermia represented weakness in his bloodline, just as much as the disease he inherited. Embracing Hermia now leaves him as vulnerable as he's ever been. I'm looking forward to how the show handles that.
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Anvesha
April 28, 2015 at 12:36 AM
I agree. The whole crazy revenge of Min Ho centered around making his uncle suffer and taking.. destroying the company for which his father was betrayed. It wasn't completely logical obviously as Soon Jung keeps pointing out but it makes sense in some ways.
I am enjoying Min Ho and his confusion even though I'm not a big fan of the cellular memory transference theory this drama is about.
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12 KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 8:43 PM
Isn't it sweet that after having slept w countless women that he didn't give a hoot about, now a little kiss w SJ sends him into uncharted territory, and he acts like a 12 year old asking for dating advice from his sec? The contrast is astounding.
I love this writer for putting in various small but revealing and entertaining char moments, and Jung Kyung Ho for bringing the char's tender new-born feelings to live. Agree w you all that he is a skilled actor.
You should watch him in Fasten your Seatbelt, if you haven't. He does intense/inane/insane so well. ?
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13 Blcktron
April 27, 2015 at 8:44 PM
Did anybody realize that the SJ's secretary friends were talking about Mr. Sung from One International in Misaeng during lunch LMAO. The whole part about him being a player and getting fired for cheating with a married women!
Anyways I just love this show, and am also really excited to see which path MH takes now since the reveal at the end.
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Alessar
April 29, 2015 at 10:51 AM
I did! I couldn't remember which character they were referring to though.
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Adal
April 30, 2015 at 10:32 AM
I wondered what that reference was. But it just clicked for me and finally makes sense. LOL!
Glad that the writer has a sense of humor to piggy back on Misaeng! It just shows how phenomenal that drama was.
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14 meowingme
April 27, 2015 at 8:46 PM
I love this episode, but the ending terrifies me. Min Ho in love is super cute, but will he reject the love if he feels it's just his heart, and not his head. Gahhh!
And I hurt for Joon Hee too, please come back, it's not too late!
I swear, this drama plot is so cliche, but all the actors are so good you can't helped being sucked in. Secretary Oh and the bromance, aaw!
Btw, when the secretaries are talking about office romance, anybody notice that their subject is "Sung Daeri, a womanizer who got fired from One International because of affair with married client"? *die laughing*
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15 KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 8:50 PM
Oh, and did you see the way Jung Kyung Ho/Min Ho flips his jacket with force when he declares his run for the CEO position? Good God! That was Charismatic w a capital C! My heart took a flip along w his jacket.
I'd love it if a guy gives me a lollipop bouquet. I can enjoy each one as I fall asleep each night w a wide smile on my face thinking of him. Judging by the size of that bouquet, the lollipops would last a couple months! Much longer than a regular bouquet!
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sfgirl
April 27, 2015 at 9:42 PM
And when you wake up, you might end with a lollipop stuck in your hair.. And I am speaking from experience. They can be dangerous!
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yoeslee
April 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM
LOL
Never thought that a lollipop could be that dangerous.
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KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 10:20 PM
LOL. That's funny, but then if the guy who gives the bouquet is as cute as Min Ho, then having the lollipop stuck in hair might be worth it? :D
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Dani
April 28, 2015 at 9:49 AM
I for one would say, YESSSSS it's definitely worth it!!!!! Give me the lollipop!!!
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annie
April 27, 2015 at 11:06 PM
The way this man wears his clothes is just... it shouldn't be allowed. *fans self*
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Dani
April 28, 2015 at 9:50 AM
I think he doesn't need to have shower scene, those tight suits enough to be dreamy about.
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annie
April 28, 2015 at 4:35 PM
Agreed.
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ahsaem
April 28, 2015 at 2:48 AM
That jacket flip- I tried to do it too but I can't :D
I love the way he acts. That scene in which he laughs when the doctor tells him he might be in love was hilarious. I watched it three - four times.
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SpinThePickle
April 28, 2015 at 4:44 AM
He has such an expressive face.
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16 Cocoboo
April 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM
I was hoping we'd see more relationship-building and romantic moments between Min Ho and Soon Jung before either of them found out about Dong Wook, the heart donor.
This episode was great. Seeing Min Ho with a new purpose and doing good was awesome. Soon Jung is slowly warming up to him and they're just starting to connect! I don't want Min Ho to worry about his feelings and analyze whether his feelings are really his or DW's...
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Camille W
April 28, 2015 at 3:58 PM
@Cocoboo I agree with you fully. Some more romance development would have been nice. To me Soon Jung still feels a little robotic. Where is the fun side we always hear about?
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annie
April 29, 2015 at 11:31 AM
To be fair, the girl is in mourning - it's been like 2-3 months since Dong-wook died I think.
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17 riya
April 27, 2015 at 9:32 PM
I wish the drama showed how he fell in love naturally instead of the fact that he became interested only because of his new heart.
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KDaddict?JCW
April 27, 2015 at 10:27 PM
I think they showed it alright. Just put yourself in his shoes:
He's been orphaned and betrayed (by family--uncle and relatives) at 9, having had to fan for himself and bear his pain alone. Suddenly, here comes a woman who is strong yet caring, responsible to a fault yet giving, understands him completely and trusts him despite him being a jerk. All her qualities are qualities that he admires and see lacking in everyone else. Every time she enquires after him, he melts a little. I think that's actually how he falls in love w him, regardless of that heart of Det Ma's that goes boom bang a boom when she is near.
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18 sfgirl
April 27, 2015 at 9:45 PM
These last two episodes were interesting to me because they had reverse trajectories for our two male leads. One evolving and the other devolving... I thought it was a nice contrast. And we know that dramaland rule # 31 is - rude but evolving boy gets the girl..!
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Camille W
April 28, 2015 at 3:59 PM
Haha. Your so right.
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Cipher
April 30, 2015 at 2:13 AM
Choi Young-Do would disagree with you. *goes cry in a coner*
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19 yoeslee
April 27, 2015 at 9:50 PM
Thanks HeadsNo2 for the recap.
I love this show, this episode especially, it's got some dialogue that i like, that can touch my heart, kudos to the actors.
Check this drama solely for my love for Kim so-yeon,but man, what a pleasant surprise to discover Jung kyung ho!
Who's this Jung Kyung-ho? never watching him in anything.
He's got a weird voice (methink), so annoying at first, but now it's kept ringing in my ears like a super fine melody HAHAHAHAHA I kept replay his scene, just to hear his voice hehehe
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escape
April 27, 2015 at 10:19 PM
I first found him in "I'm Sorry I love You" and was instantly charmed by him. What a hottie he is.
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yoeslee
April 29, 2015 at 9:24 AM
"What a hottie he is."
Now i know hehehehe
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August
April 28, 2015 at 7:55 AM
"What a pleasant surprise to discover Jung Kyung-Ho! Who’s this Jung Kyung-Ho?"
TV Shows
▪ Falling for Innocence (JTBC, 2015)
▪ Drama Festival 2014 - House Mate (MBC, 2014)
▪ Endless Love (SBS, 2014)
▪ Drama Festival Lee Sang That Lee Sang (MBC, 2013)
▪ After School Bokbulbok (NATE/Btv/Tstore/Hoppin, 2013) cameo
▪ Heartless City/Cruel City (JTBC, 2013)
▪ The Great Gye Choon Bin (KBS2, 2010)
▪ Road Number One (MBC, 2010) cameo
▪ Smile, You (SBS, 2009)
▪ Ja Myung Go (SBS, 2009)
▪ Time Between Dog and Wolf (MBC, 2007)
▪ My Sweetheart My Darling (KBS1, 2005)
▪ Sorry I Love You (KBS2, 2004)
▪ Sweet 18 (KBS2, 2004)
▪ You're Gonna Know (KBS, 2004)
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Camille W
April 28, 2015 at 4:03 PM
Never seen or heard of any of these. Where has he been hiding? A number of us are pleasantly surprised by this actor. He's different but in a good way. He's not drop-dead gorgeous but he has charisma and he can act. He's quite likeable too. So rare for a male lead. I can say I like him not because of looks but cuz of acting chops....can't always say that for some actors out there. *cough*cough* Lee Min Ho...fangirls don't kill me plz.
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yoeslee
April 29, 2015 at 9:54 AM
+1
Totally agreed with you.
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Alessar
April 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM
If his instagram is any indication, this guy is a total riot in real life. He posted pictures of lamas with his character's hair photoshopped on. Bonus trivia, he and the actor who plays Joon-Hee are total friends in real life and Kyung Ho actually introduced him to the woman who he's now engaged to!
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Wendy
May 4, 2015 at 2:33 AM
Jung Kyung Ho was always a promising actor after "Time Between Dog and Wolf" (2007). His performances as leading man in "Ja Myung Go" and "Smile, You" made him a familiar name to Korean drama fans. Returning from the army, he did "Heartless City" where his bromance with Yoon Hyun Min (our current Yoon Hee ^^ ) shone. "Heartless City" is not also a critically claimed drama but loved by all of its viewers. I personally think that Jung Shi Hyun (his character name in "Heartless City") is the most impressive role delivered by always charming Jung Kyung Ho ^^.
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annie
April 28, 2015 at 4:36 PM
He was in Sweet 18?! I totally don't remember him, and I've watched it twice!
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yoeslee
April 29, 2015 at 9:52 AM
Hi August,
Wow, thanks for the lists. Never knew that he's in Sorry i love You and Time Between Dog and Wolf. Both of these dramas are in my waiting list.
And, thing about a waiting list its that, they got longer every years, and time is just my worse enemy!
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August
April 30, 2015 at 11:19 PM
Hi YoesLee,
Yes indeed, sometimes time can be one's worse enemy! Last year I watched Time Between Dog & Wolf but Sorry I Love You is still on my waiting list. Hopefully, this year I can squeeze in time to clear it too from my to watch list (aka neverending pending queue).
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20 escape
April 27, 2015 at 10:19 PM
If a man gave me a bouquet of his favorite lollipops, I'll marry him instantly. :D
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21 annie
April 27, 2015 at 11:25 PM
Thanks for the recap!
I think Min-ho's plan before the transplant was revenge against both his uncle AND his father. Thus the plan to bankrupt it, depose his betraying uncle and then sell the company that had been his father's dream, destroying what had been important to both of them. Because he feels betrayed not only by his uncle but by his parents for being naive fools who got taken for a ride. I feel like he blames both his uncle and his parents for the way he was abandoned as a child and everything he had to endure after that. I guess what the show failed to show is how he came to forgive his parents, and came around to being ashamed of what he did, and to value his father's legacy, which is implicitly what he's saying at the end of this episode.
I feel like there must have been more that went on in his head that weren't privy to. But then I also feel like this writer tends to be very sparing with the dialogue, saying a lot with a small amount of words and trusting the actors to deliver the emotion, and the viewers to pay close attention, and I kind of like that. That one sentence of Minho's when he describes himself as incredibly pissed off at seeing the violence at the strike breaking - well he's saying so much more with that statement, isn't he? I kind of like that there are things left to our interpretation - people don't often spell out their motivations so clearly in real life either.
And now to squeeeeee over this OTP - HOW MUCH DO I LOVE THEM? SO MUCH.
I love how Soon-jung has basically told him multiple times now that she'll protect him, making Min-ho the damsel(?) in distress. I love how she sees through his BS and calls him on it. And how he responds to her belief in him by getting all blustery and embarrassed and trying to hide his better self from her. (Not that it works.)
Also love how he asks Woo-shik for romance advice in the most transparent way possible, and then fails to be smooth enough to use it because Soo-jung makes him nervous. And he's the more vulnerable and flustered one, while she's cool, collected, and the one giving him comfort. Also I love how they talk about everything with each other.
Ok I'll stop now before this turns into complete fangirling nonsense. I just love this show more with every episode!
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KDaddict?JCW
April 28, 2015 at 3:55 AM
I agree w you that Min Ho's plan before the transplant was to revenge against his uncle AND his father.
1. He certainly blamed his father for being an idealistic fool, and ran his factory in such a fashion, which gave his uncle a chance to rustle it away from him. So he's set out to prove that only the fittest survive in the corporate world, while good personnel relations and human resource, which his father treasured, are such beans. Only numbers and profits matter and win.
2. His uncle has used the past 25 years to build up that factory and expand the business successfully, slipping somewhat in the last few years. So Min Ho naturally has been wanting to take that business away from Uncle Dearest, and destroy it.
That's killing two birds w one stone. That setup makes sense to me very much.
You asked when Min Ho came to forgive his parents and became ashamed of his former approach to life. I think it was at the strike, when he saw how it would have, could have been him, who ordered the striker breakers in. Suddenly, bcos of where SJ was, he saw it from the other side, from the workers' pt of view, and as he confessed to Joon Hee and the board, he saw sthg he wasn't meant to see, and he got angry, like you mentioned.
I'm sure all those times he did similar terrible things, he wasn't on the grounds to see it happen. It's like what they say about Generals only fighting wars in the Operation Room, not smelling the gunfire nor the bloodshed, or else they couldn't go on.
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annie
April 28, 2015 at 5:10 AM
Yep it makes sense to me too.
Good point about seeing the consequences happen in front of him, and especially seeing someone he cares about getting injured. That's definitely the impetus for his decision to save the company.
He said he was ashamed of his actions/ashamed to face his parents earlier though, in the car before the kiss. It would have been nice to witness his moment of revelation about that as well. But I guess Min-ho has always done his thinking quietly and in private.
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Nabi
May 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM
Yes!! I actually ventured into the Comments section (contrary to my usual habit of just enjoying the recap and then moving on) to say exactly what Laica and KDaddict both already said about Min-ho's plans and motivations above. Although his desire for revenge may have been centered around his uncle, it was never limited to him. I always thought that Min-ho felt betrayed by *everyone* at Hermia, including his own parents, and I was surprised enough at HeadsNo2's differing interpretation that I wanted to know if I was the only one who had seen that. Glad I'm not the only one, on this point at least!
I usually agree with most of HeadsNo2's interpretations, but in this drama we seem to be seeing very different things. I am actually much more frustrated by the lack of information we're getting about Soon-jung's motivations and inner feelings than I am about Min-ho's. At first I was on board with her as a character that always maintains a rigidly professional facade irregardless of her inner emotions, even sometimes at the expense of living authentically in her personal life. But while I've been following Min-ho's character growth in recent episodes, Soon-jung seems to have regressed into a total blank slate at the same time that Min-ho is moving forward. Very, very frustrating!
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Nabi
May 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM
p.s. regarding Min-ho's turning point: I actually saw Min-ho gradually softening toward Hermia in general, the factory workers, and his father's business philosophy long before the strike-breaking scene, but I do think that it was the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak.
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August
April 28, 2015 at 8:37 AM
Nice points.
"I kind of like that there are things left to our interpretation– people don’t often spell out their motivations so clearly in real life either."
Me too and so true. Things being left open to interpretation and not always knowing what people are thinking...In life, for many of us, we may encounter and orbit around people that are somewhat larger than life, the life of the party, and others whom are content to fade into the background. It's certainly possible to interact with people without ever fully knowing what they are always thinking. Not having all the answers and trying to figure out Min-Ho, Soon-Jung, & Joon-Hee doesn't bother me much. Maybe it's because I have full confidence in the acting talents/abilities of Jung Kyung-Ho, Kim So-Yeon, & Yoon Hyun-Min to convey emotions, to portray important non-verbal signs to the audience about their characters and the respective motivating forces behind their characters' behavior.
It's been my opinion from the beginning of Episode 1 that layers are being peeled back and characters (mainly MH, SJ, & JH) are grappling with a perceived truth vs. discovering the real truth about themselves and coming to grips with it.
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annie
April 28, 2015 at 4:39 PM
"I have full confidence in the acting talents/abilities of Jung Kyung-Ho, Kim So-Yeon, & Yoon Hyun-Min to convey emotions, to portray important non-verbal signs to the audience about their characters and the respective motivating forces behind their characters’ behavior"
I agree with this so much. The writer is lucky to have such a talented cast to interpret her script; I really get the sense that all three of them have really thought about their characters and have a good grip on who they are and what they want, even if we don't see it all yet. They are definitely revealing themselves in layers, and it gets more interesting with each episode.
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Selenette
April 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM
@Laica
I still wish we could hear more of Soon-jung's narratives, though. So far, my comprehension of the character is assisted by Kim So-yeon's nuanced performance. But I still wish to know what she's been thinking of when she's not being straightforward.
For example, we all know how Min-ho is so affected by the confession, and his dialogues keep alluding to it. As for Soon-jung, we see that her knees were weak when she came home after "the strange night", which means that she also is affected by the confession...and she seemed uncomfortable the next day. But I still wish to hear her (her thoughts).
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annie
April 29, 2015 at 11:25 AM
Hmm, you're right. Now that I think about it, Soon-jung is actually a really private person. Maybe because of her upbringing as the child of a dad she couldn't respect, with her isolation at school resulting in her having only Dong-wook and Jae-hee as confidants, one of whom is now dead and one has just lost her friendship by betraying her. Plus her relationship with her coworkers is friendly but pretty one-sided - they share everything with her and she comforts/helps them, but at work she's always "Miss Smile" and she never shows a crack in that facade, not even to the other secretaries.
We did get that one scene with Det. Ma's father where both acknowledge how they're barely holding on, and how difficult things are, which is why they haven't talked much. I guess Soon-jung has mostly been dealing with her grief while at the same time reacting to Min-ho's crazy antics and all the company drama.
I'm hoping this week's episodes give us a glimpse into her head though, like we got for Min-ho in episode 8.
22 Nikilann
April 28, 2015 at 1:41 AM
"But hey, on the bright side, at least he’s not a murderer. He’s just second lead, which might actually be worse."
LOL. Just. Best end of comment ever. haha.
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annie
April 29, 2015 at 11:30 AM
Or maybe he IS the murderer, and his dad is a witness - and he's the one who picked up the phone in order to protect his son/finish the job?
Dun dun dun.
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23 cat
April 28, 2015 at 2:57 AM
I really enjoyed todays episode.thanks for the recap
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24 jomo143
April 28, 2015 at 4:23 AM
Thanks for the recap!!!!
I think JKH is a magician or hypnotist or mesmerizer. The way he looks and sounds so confused working through the whereisthetruckthathitme? of falling in love. The hospital bed scene (not no THAT type of bed scene!) he looked at her like he could sketch her with his eyes.
The rise and fall of the pitch and intensity in his voice reaches deep inside me and grabs my heart.
And the little tiny add-ons, too. When they are in the back of the car he agrees that it IS indeed a strange day, "Kuh-chee?" When he asks her in the hospital, "What are you really? Please let a person breathe, huhn? It makes him so real.
I love also that while SJ watches him suffer through all the changes of conscience, she welcomes it. She wants him to experience the uncomfortable times just like every one else has had to all their lives.
LOVE HIM. Love her.
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annie
April 28, 2015 at 5:03 AM
Everything you said in your comment. Yes. That voice and the ways he talks, OMG.
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Khule WY
April 29, 2015 at 12:04 AM
Yeah I like the way he's portraying it,great acting on his part.
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yoeslee
April 29, 2015 at 10:06 AM
"When they are in the back of the car he agrees that it IS indeed a strange day, “Kuh-chee?”" <------- these! When he said it,the way he said it, i thought my heart stop beating and i stop breathing!
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25 cubelovelo
April 28, 2015 at 4:49 AM
oh dear...i couldn't agree more...++++1
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26 NagaKarat
April 28, 2015 at 4:49 AM
Min Ho wants revenge on his Uncle and he was on a limited time. He knows he is dying, that tomorrow can be his last. By being cruel and callous and not caring what happen to the people who worked at the company he raided and dismantle is the shortest and fastest route to his goal. Why should he care what happen to Hermia's worker or his father's legacy. he is going to be dead soon anyway and his chances of surviving is just 1 percent, but that 1 percent happens and now he has all the time in his hand, not knowing when he'll die like everybody else. Add to the fact the target of his revenge died and that his new heart is distracting him with unused emotions no wonder he is confused.
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27 SpinThePickle
April 28, 2015 at 4:51 AM
Detective chick - I don't get her at all. You think she'd be RELEIVED that it wasn't her friend that killed her partner and his best friend. It doesn't make sense that she would be so desperate to pin it on him of all people.
The yellow jacket and pants - ack! Not a fan. They normally dress him so well. That was just too much mustard there.
Min Ho -so freaking vulnerable. It was awesome to watch him deflate when he was alone after being so bada$$ and confident in the boardroom.
Also, his secretary seems like he has always rather liked Min Ho. And Min Ho, despite being known as a tyrant, has always been very permissive with his secretary (letting a lot of comments slide) so you know he had to have some good qualities before the transplant too.
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annie
April 28, 2015 at 5:06 AM
Good point about his relationship with his secretary. He's the scary boss to everyone else but the casual way Woo-shik talks to him since before his surgery, with no real consequences, is evidence that they're actually more like friends.
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Selenette
April 30, 2015 at 1:02 PM
@Laica
I keep replying to your posts. They're just so exciting. :D
Isn't it fascinating that Joon-hee & Dong-wook's two-decades long friendship was built on love rivalry and ended in Joon-hee's lies? On the other hand, Woo-shik & Min-ho's friendship began as a superior-subordinate relationship but was built on respect? These four are like mirrors to one another.
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28 cinnamon
April 28, 2015 at 5:14 AM
Sigh...when I wrote about Min-ho's scene saying, "...a little..." in Dramabeans recap for episode 7, I've just now realized that I had actually watched episode 8 without sub before writing the comment and somehow I thought I remembered the "a little" part somewhere in the previous episode which led me thinking he had said that twice. Was it my imagination since I could not exactly remember in what episode it was?
And, yeah, I have to confess that I mostly watched the episodes before the subs were released. Hhh...just could not help.
Thanks for the recap for the episode 8 HeadsNo2... I like the recent two episodes best.
Things I like in this episode:
- MH's typing act pointed towards SJ
- SJ's expression when she told MH where his seat was
- Secretary Oh's laughter when he left MH after telling him there was a difference between a lunatic guy and a bad guy..
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August
April 28, 2015 at 7:44 AM
"I have to confess that I mostly watched the episodes before the subs were released. Hhh…just could not help."
So far I've managed to hold off watching until subs are at least 95% complete...but I'm constantly tempted to give in and watch raw. Waiting is so hard though because I'm eager to watch them but I don't want to miss out on the little details of dialogue/banter between MH & SJ, Secretary Oh & MH, etc. My weekend just doesn't feel complete until I've watched both episodes fully subbed.
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cinnamon
April 28, 2015 at 8:32 AM
Hhh....lol
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gammiron
April 28, 2015 at 8:29 AM
That 'a little' gesture appeared three times already, one in this episode, one before his doctor talk about love (I think it was episode 6?) and the other one before Wooshik calls forth the power of exorcism to chase away the evil spirit inside Minho in episode 4. :D It's funny that when I watched this episode for the first time, when he started making that gesture I could predict that he was going to say "a little", complete with the tone of his voice, hahaha~
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cinnamon
April 28, 2015 at 8:40 AM
Already three? Then I must have missed one... Thank you, gammiron... I'll definitely check the scenes from those episodes you've just mentioned... :)
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29 KDaddict?JCW
April 28, 2015 at 6:17 AM
Jung Kyung Ho:
Just finished ep 4 of Cruel City. Hot shit. Holy shit. The show is so cool. And his acting! WOW.
I saw his shower scene in ep 3. He certainly has muscles galore. But then why does he look so thin and small under that leather jacket when he saves the girl from the bullies in front of the orphanage? He looks just like the teenager he's supposed to be in that scene. But his acting!!
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MikoD
April 28, 2015 at 7:00 AM
I thought that was Joon Hee's shower scene?
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KDaddict?JCW
April 28, 2015 at 8:00 AM
I was talking about Jung Kyung Ho's shower scene in Cruel City. ☺️
It couldn't be his buddy, who has been knived and is laid up in hospital bed at that time.
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patinalee
April 28, 2015 at 7:41 AM
Glad that you're enjoying CC, even more so when it's not your usual genre. :-)
I've always thought JKH looked somewhat narrow-shouldered which may explain why he looks thinner than he actually is. But whatever deficiency he may have in physique, if any, is more than made up in his acting chops! First saw him in CC, back-tracked him (and LJK and NSM) to TBDAW and now having a good time watching him here. Intense, charismatic, mesmerizing, awesome actor! :-D
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August
April 28, 2015 at 8:43 AM
Glad you're enjoying Jung Kyung-Ho in Cruel City. Very fine acting indeed. JKH owns the character of Baksa Adeul (The Doctor's Son/Jung Shi-Hyun).
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Khule WY
April 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM
Just watched Hc last week, It's everything, have fun it's so awesome, I want to scream it out loud.about his build,I didn't notice he was small or whatever but he does look younger in endless love just finished 10 episodes.I think that girls generation that's dating him would like to tell you guys to back off her man.I'm really happy for him that he's dating someone famous. other actors maybe bigger stars but he's dating girls generation.
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Adal
April 30, 2015 at 10:35 AM
+1
It's a pity Cruel City wasn't recapped on DB. I would have spent all my comments squealing! It has all the ingredients of an explosive drama!
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30 Dani
April 28, 2015 at 6:50 AM
That hug...and his reaction when she did pat him, I thought he got an o***m hiaaaaaa. I think the character suit the Kim So Yeon so much. Not much expression on her face, as I really hated her expressionless face on I need Romance 3, though I love that series (mainly because Sung Joon, but still..). I always love dapper guys, especially with all the tailored suit and nobody rock that better than JKH. I don't care that he is not tall, not a muscle man, he looks gorgeous in suit. Plus he can act, or did I put it in the wrong order? hahaha.
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cinnamon
April 28, 2015 at 9:03 AM
Hey! I thought the same thing on your before 'hiaaaaaa' part. lol. But, the expression was uselessly (might be?) funny...hahahah
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Dani
April 28, 2015 at 9:47 AM
Aleev07, I know right?!!! That face!!!! Huahahahahaha
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Roftlert
April 28, 2015 at 9:14 AM
Aigoo!!! Is it too much to babbling such a bias comment to lead actress like this. Kim So Yeon always good on expression whether this drama or her previous job.
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Dani
April 28, 2015 at 9:46 AM
Ha ha ha I enjoy her in this drama, that's for sure. But, the other one, though I love the drama, I just couldn't grip the expression much. It's my personal opinion, and you are definitely entitle to yours as well ;)
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31 MikoD
April 28, 2015 at 6:59 AM
"While Joon-hee prepares a big spread for his dinner date with Soon-jung (which we know, based on drama history, that if a second male lead puts that much time and effort into anything the first female lead will not be attending)"
Or she'll attend only to confirm that she can't love him because her heart belongs to another. Joon Hee's attempt at wooing SJ made me uneasy than sympathetic. He's forceful, and a bit thick-headed. It's a little distasteful too that as the former bff of her fiance, he should have given her some time to get over the loss and grieve. Instead, he forces hand holding and snippets of one sided nostalgia. Though it didn't seem like Soojung is grieving much these days, he should still be sympathetic. Sure he's loved her for twenty years, she's loved her fiance for that long and should be given time also.
Joon Hee's tirade scares me... He's a dangerous one now that he has been promoted to the drama's big baddie.
In any case, Minho rocked this episode for me. I'm on his side all the way.
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MikoD
April 28, 2015 at 7:03 AM
P.S. I absolutely adore MinHo's relationship with his secretary. Then sharing thoughts, Secretary speaking openly with his boss warms my heart. And that MinHo sits up front, rather than behind, makes believe that he considers the Secretary as his friend rather than an employee.
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meowingme
April 28, 2015 at 9:48 AM
I love that Secretary Oh managed to slip in a request to buy tie, and complaining about plane ticket refund, such a cutie!
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32 Small Birdy
April 28, 2015 at 7:13 AM
Thanks for the recap!
Love all the actors in this show. Both guys look gorgeous in suits! Especially like the white suit Min Ho wore in Ep 8.
I hope the writer will give us more OTP moments - the sexual tension is unbearable! I wish they'd just jump on each other already!
Love the drama and love reading the recaps and comments.
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Dani
April 28, 2015 at 7:25 AM
"I wish they'd just jump on each other already!" Hahahaha my kind of sentiment, girl.
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33 Joserb
April 28, 2015 at 9:27 AM
Since I've read Falling for Innocence's recap from ep.1 until ep.8. There are some JKH's fans keep comment how excellent he is in Heartless City. OK, that's your right to suggest if you like that much. But you guys keep refer to that drama in all ep. recap at Dramabeans. Isn't seem too much. While this drama is "Falling for Innocence" and people who read this page not just JKH's fans. Please be carefully considering.
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wired
April 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM
Totally Agree!!!
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Khule WY
April 29, 2015 at 12:00 AM
I understand it could be irritating and I for one only got to know about heartless city through other people talking about it on falling on innocence comments and I got an outlet to talk about it since I was late to it,last week to be exact and couldn't stop gushing about it,not only for min ho,that lawyer guy is in it as well and I guess them reunited just makes people reminisce the old drama,I apologise for it but please bear with us,I'll tone it down,don't know about the rest of the beanies because that drama was FREAKING AWESOME Lol,ok now I've stopped. Biane.
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omo!
April 29, 2015 at 3:37 AM
Hey!!! You not only one. I'm also boring to dieeeeeeeeeee bcoz of those kind of people. Whenever I see wording "Heartless City" I skip immediate!!! lol
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August
April 30, 2015 at 11:32 PM
@ Joserb, wired, & omo!
Oh dear! Goodness gracious. Like klava, I can understand how it could be irritating and why one may feel the need to redress a genuine grievance in regards to this. Accordingly, I would like to merely respond to the complaint and discuss the rule of conduct at issue.
(A) Rather than just singing praises for and only commenting on Heartless City (aka Cruel City), I feel that it's necessary to state and point out that most of the time we raved and posted about Falling for Innocence too. Whether it was a reaction to a certain character or their behavior in FFI; a response based upon what transpired plotwise; or expanding upon the general topic of discussion for a particular FFI episode.
(B) Reading the recap threads from episodes 1 - 8 for Falling for Innocence, a couple of people made mention of the fact that they did not know much about Jung Kyung-Ho, Kim So-Yeon, & Yoon Hyun-Min nor had they seen any of their projects prior to this drama. Hence, for some people once they discover/come across a talented actor/actress in a project that delights them - they will seek out more projects from the actor/actress in question and try to pass the time along/fulfill a yearning for the next episode to air by watching that persons kdramas/films acting repertoire.
(C) As fans of kdramas - Old School Heads & Newbies tend to be at different stages of the game in terms of frame of reference, our viewing experiences, and levels of interest in particular actors/actresses. Its common place here on Dramabeans for beanies to recommend dramas to each other; to happily share their appreciationin for and excitement about the acting talents of noteworthy kdrama actors/actresses; and take pride in doing so.
(D) Dramabeans did not recap HC - which is their prerogative. Nor back then did HC have a Series Review here like Surpluss Princess, Let's Eat, Who Are You?, Nine: Nine Times Travel, Queen's Classroom, or a Podcast unto itself like Miss Korea. And by no means is it the only drama to not be recapped here nor have a Series Review. The good news is - Dramabeans did indeed recognize and give high marks to HC in their 2012 year end review. Like other beanies have done in the past and routinely do here, we merely helped spread the word about HC and recommended it due to the fact that Jung Kyung-Ho & Yoon Hyun-Min - 2 of the main actors in HC - have now teamed up again this time in FFI. Which to some people, is definitely a relevant and welcomed tidbit of kdrama info to know.
(E) HC falls into the category of being an under the radar (cult classic) type of kdrama like White Christmas.
(F) Recently during the Kill Me, Heal Me recap threads here, beanies often would mention and reference back to Ji Sung's previous projects. Again there like here, there were some viewers famaliar with Secret Love, Protect the Boss, Royal Family, Swallow the Sun, Save the Last Dance With Me, etc. and some that were not. But at least people walked...
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August
April 30, 2015 at 11:34 PM
Continued...
(F) Recently during the Kill Me, Heal Me recap threads here, beanies often would mention and reference back to Ji Sung's previous projects. Again there like here, there were some viewers familiar with Secret Love, Protect the Boss, Royal Family, Swallow the Sun, Save the Last Dance With Me, etc. and some that were not. But at least people walked away with new recommendations to add to their to watch list as a result.
(G) Throughout the span of all 20 recap threads for Hyde Jekyll & Me here, references were made to Hyun Bin's former kdrama projects and roles (e.g. Secret Garden, Worlds Within, The Snow Queen, My Name Is Kim Sam-soon, etc.). During the course of HJM's run here, a gamut of human emotions were expressed and comparisons to his other dramas, characters/roles, etc. were made by HJM viewers and par for the course.
(H) Just wondering:
• If referencing and constantly expressing excitement for JKH's other roles/projects (e.g. Heartless City, Time Between Dog & Wolf, & Smile You, etc.) in addition to his current one as Kang Min-Ho in Falling for Innocence here in the recap threads seems too much of an encumbrance...Whatever will you do for Ji Chang Wook's next project with all the fervor and love for his Healer character Seo Jung-Hoo that's sure to commence?
• Are you currently watching any of the other kdramas airing right now? If so, what's your take on/response to all of the comparisons to and fandom love for Healer in the viewer timed comments directed at many of the dramas currently airing right now and others going as far back if not even further back than Love Rain?
Do note and keep in mind that we can agree to disagree. I tried to explain, clarify/defend, give valid reasons objectively, and disagree without being disagreeable in my response to the subject of your grievance based on the raised issue of concern as initially stated above.
For now signing off. Peace Out!
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JAC8934
May 13, 2015 at 4:24 AM
I don't know, for those who never know him before and now know him because of this drama began to watch his previous drama through the commenter list and their comment
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34 orange
April 28, 2015 at 9:41 AM
+1
I'm also tired for those comment.
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35 NyxMiyusama
April 28, 2015 at 3:30 PM
So I had this thought last night and I wasn't sure if I should share it or where. after a nights sleep though ill just leave it here.
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NyxMiyusama
April 28, 2015 at 3:32 PM
No Idea what happened up there. technical difficulties.
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NyxMiyusama
April 28, 2015 at 4:20 PM
Ok imma stop hitting THAT button! And because the last computer refused to type properly I've switched to another. Serves me right I guess for trying to type on an actual keyboard. Is this a sign?
ANYWHOO!
It has to do with a biological reason he is changing other than the Cellular Memory Phenomenon (which is real, I had been waiting for them to put a name to this). It promptly blew my mind. So as I was collecting the various bits of my mind and clinging to any shred of what was once my reality. I had a revelation.
He got a NEW heart! Not just boyfriends heart. A new properly functioning healthy heart one that works the way its supposed to.
Think about it the heart operates the freeways, interstates, highways, streets etc. of the body. Shipping the various nutrients, chemicals and gases to where they are needed. As the brain decides what quantity should be imported and exported to each organ and how fast.
So lets say you get terrified so much that your fight or flight instinct kicks in and you begin to hear your own heartbeat pounding in your ears. As your heart is preparing the body to either Fight or Flight, at the brains request.
Now look at Min Hos unhealthy heart which had accompanied him all his life through all the trials of his life. I thinks its safe to say that his heart didn't work properly from the start. So lets say it only worked at the bare minimum to keep both itself and the body alive. Im not saying that Min Hos wouldn't get scared and prepare for the flight or fight. I'm saying it might take a little longer to keep up with the brains demands, thus allowing the brain more thinking time to assess the threat level and be like you know what maybe I was wrong. Over time this becomes the norm for the heart and brain. thus allowing Min Ho himself to be a colder person.
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annie
April 28, 2015 at 4:42 PM
Interesting theory. I wonder if the writer is going in that direction/if we'll see any reference to this.
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nyx_miyusama
April 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM
This is getting to long in now realize that i may seriously overthink things and i will never use a laptop again.
His shiny new, properly functioning heart that can now flutter when it sees a girl and can seize up with fear without there being a danger of having a heart attack. just so happens to come right when the one thing that drove his life, revenge ,ends.
so while cellular Memory contributes it might actually, be more biology at a time that min ho never thought hed live past. much less see
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Alessar
April 29, 2015 at 11:00 AM
Not to mention the psychological pressure from knowing you are, essentially, a terminal patient. Getting the unexpected transplant at the literal moment he was on death's door knocking loudly was something he was probably still processing.
I think it's important to keep in mind that even when he found out his uncle was terminal, he went off to consider how to use the info. He did say he planned to, but of course Joon-Hee actually did it, and that lady from Gold and he did the coup in the board room. At the very moment his opportunity to finally take his revenge was given to him, he hesitated-- and then it was taken away. And then, he realized maybe it wasn't that important after all.
It's said "living well is the best revenge" and I think this show is illustrating it. Unexpectedly he's outlived his uncle and now his father's company is back in his rightful hands. So... screw it. Time to be a good guy. And get the girl.
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36 Khule WY
April 28, 2015 at 5:22 PM
My best.moment was after the kiss, the way they both turned like nothing happened was awesome, the hug was good too.
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Giegie
April 29, 2015 at 12:46 AM
I loved that scene, a little more than the kiss itself. Min-ho's reaction specially, or maybe I just love eveything Min-ho does! :D
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Khule WY
April 29, 2015 at 11:34 AM
Me too, me too, doesn't it feel like we are getting the same feels we had for healer, if all we ever talked about then was Ji Chang wook ,here it's all about Min ho /Jung kyung ho.
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37 Selenette
April 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM
Thanks so very much for the recaps, Heads.
Anybody here knows the song that played in the J HASS (the PPL) boutique scene (where Ji-hyun takes Min-ho shopping for a formal suit)?
The rhythm is great, and ominously enough, when Min-ho casts aside his suit when he looks at his reflection, the song stops at the word "DESTINY."
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Selenette
April 30, 2015 at 12:55 PM
Turns out the word is "you dance for me"
and the song is "Tonight I'm Yours" by Ola.
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38 luvyluna
April 28, 2015 at 8:03 PM
I'm glad this drama not seriously revolve around how to conqueing company bulsh*** things that certainly will make their watcher getting bored. Who want to get in business bored thing after we get home and want to relax? I'm glad it's more pointed to build the changing character from baddest to be bad in a good way n heart. heck, I even love it more than hyde n Jekyll. ! The heroine actor did some gestures that certainly different from others drama's that make him looked real like a man in real life, not an take-care-image on screen. Love this drama a lot..
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39 g14
April 28, 2015 at 11:52 PM
In my opinion,soon jung loves kang min ho as kang min ho, not because of the heart of her fiance...
Kang min ho even doesn't eat lollypop in front of soon jung. He's just warmer but still shows bad..
so..the person whom soon jung falls in love is min hoo...
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40 PinkSushi
April 29, 2015 at 7:34 PM
All I have for this show is love. Love <3
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41 Chloe
April 30, 2015 at 4:39 AM
I really love it when he acts cold. Like when he says the cruelest stuff at the meeting or in front of his uncle. Great acting. I wish we were shown more of that before his current wavering heart.
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Selenette
April 30, 2015 at 1:04 PM
@Chloe
We still have Joon-hee, Ji-hyun. etc. I'm sure Min-ho will still act coldly in front of these schemers and say cruel things, too.
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