Marriage Not Dating: Episode 14
by LollyPip
It’s an episode full of frustration for poor Ki-tae, both emotionally and physically, as he learns about life as the boyfriend of a successful entrepreneur. He and Jang-mi both learn a little about how important it is to communicate honestly, and I can only say thank goodness, it’s about time. Because when your girlfriend’s ex is giving you relationship advice, you’re probably doing it wrong.
EPISODE 14: “Sorry for not being cool / Thanks for not being cool”
Ki-tae is interviewed in his home, where he discusses his love of his house. He says he was once alone here as a child and this is why he loves to be alone here now. The doorbell rings and he tries to ignore it, but the ringing gets increasingly frantic, and Ki-tae explains that there’s this girl who recently began intruding and ruining the peace of the house. His tone of voice and facial expressions betray annoyance and frustration as he says that since that girl came, he’s uncomfortable when he’s home alone. The ringing turns to pounding as Ki-tae adds, almost angrily, that now he wants to be with that girl.
We rejoin Ki-tae and Jang-mi just as he opens the bottle of wine, and Jang-mi suggests that they date casually, without marriage in mind. Ki-tae asks what we’re all wondering: “Who are you?” HA. Jang-mi says that she’s serious, because in the past if she wanted someone she just went for him and it always ruined things.
Ki-tae starts to argue that that was with Hoon-dong, but Jang-mi interrupts and says she doesn’t want to ruin things with him, which deflates his frustration. She suggests they keep things secret from their parents, at least until she gets a job and his clinic is back in business. She wants to look better in front of his mother next time, so she won’t think she’s only after Ki-tae’s money.
Jang-mi says that this time she wants to be a proud daughter and a good wife to him, and Ki-tae grins. But he pokes fun by telling her she’s jumping the gun – he never said he wanted to marry her. Dude, you earned that snarl. An annoyed Jang-mi gulps her wine and starts to leave, but Ki-tae offers to take her home. She declines and gives him a quick smooch, which buys her time to leave while he stands there all twitterpated.
The next day, Ki-tae literally dances into work, where the nurses tell him that the blogger deleted all her negative comments. Not even the news that there are no patients on the schedule yet can get him down, and he boogies off to his office.
Hyun-hee runs Hoon-dong ragged with her ever-changing demands, and his mother criticizes him for becoming a slave to his wife. She turns on Hyun-hee next, to take her to task for taking up the best restaurant table for studying, and calls them both immature. She refuses to support them anymore and demands rent on the restaurant.
Yeo-reum leads Jang-mi into his newly-completed restaurant/bar, and she sits him down to tell him she’s dating Ki-tae. He breezily says that he just wants her as a business partner, and she relaxes and asks him if he thinks Ki-tae will be okay with them working together. She asks him for advice on how to be in a cool relationship, but his advice is to end it. Since Ki-tae likes her, Yeo-reum doubts he can be cool about it.
Yeo-reum’s mystery investor arrives, and Jang-mi is surprised to see that it’s Hyun-hee. She says it’s a secret from Hoon-dong for now, and that she used her own savings to invest. She explains that she’s doing this because she wants her own money, not just her in-laws’ money.
Jang-mi suggests they do this without her, and Yeo-reum tells Hyun-hee that her boyfriend might not like it. Hyun-hee correctly guesses the new boyfriend is Ki-tae, and agrees that they shouldn’t tell him since once he knows, Hoon-dong will know too.
The bar’s sign is delivered, and Jang-mi is surprised to see they’ve named the place “Ju Jang-mi” (How punny – ju as in liquor like soju). Hyun-hee says they planned all along for her to be involved, and Jang-mi is touched but grumps that it’s a tacky name for a bar.
Ki-tae’s mom gives him an envelope for Jang-mi, and says that since the blogger’s comments have been deleted, they should give Jang-mi what she wants (money). Ki-tae argues that his mother misunderstood and Jang-mi was helping him, prompting Grandma to hopefully ask if they’re seeing each other. Ki-tae denies it, but says that he’s begging her not to go. He tells Mom that he was so mean that Jang-mi needed a shoulder to cry on, and that’s why she was hugging Yeo-reum. It’s cute how Grandma and Aunt Mi-jung stick up for Jang-mi.
Ki-tae accidentally interrupts his father in the middle of a call to his mistress, and Dad invites him over for a drink. Dad’s clearly already had a few, but he notes that even though Mom told Ki-tae to do whatever he wants, she’s managing to pull him back in.
Dad says he understands Ki-tae falling for a girl like Jang-mi, because he must have felt suffocated. He says that he found the perfect solution – keep marriage and love separate. Marriage is stability, and love is excitement. He tells Ki-tae that he should marry Se-ah, and date Jang-mi. Gross, Dad.
Ki-tae tries to hold in his anger as he tells Dad that he used to try to understand him, wondering why Mom wouldn’t let him go knowing he had a lover, but now he knows it’s Dad who wouldn’t let go. Dad says that his responsibilities burdened him, and he knows that’s why Ki-tae wants to live alone, to avoid those burdens. Ki-tae agrees that he’s selfish like his father, but that he’s never felt so ashamed about it until now. He warns Dad never again to put Jang-mi on the same level as that woman, and leaves.
Ki-tae arrives home to find that Jang-mi has laid out mountains of food, and she tells him they’re the bar’s menu items and asks him to try everything. He declares the food delicious and Jang-mi relaxes, since he’s so fussy that if he likes it, anyone will like it. Hee.
She drops the bomb that the bar’s cook is Yeo-reum, but assures Ki-tae that they’re totally fine working together, no feelings whatsoever. She says that they’re in a cool relationship anyway, but Ki-tae protests that he didn’t know “cool” meant this. Jang-mi says that she’s okay with him being friends with Se-ah, so he should be okay with her working with Yeo-reum, and he can’t argue with her logic.
Jang-mi says that she considered not going into business with Yeo-reum since she and Ki-tae are dating, but she really needs the job since she doesn’t want to look like a gold-digger. She says she won’t do it if he doesn’t want her to, but Ki-tae remembers his mother sliding that envelope of money at him, and his father’s disgusting suggestion, and reluctantly tells Jang-mi to do it.
The next day Ki-tae slumps into Hoon-dong’s restaurant, and Hoon-dong asks him why the sudden change of mood. Ki-tae asks why someone would only be casual around him but not anyone else, and Hoon-dong correctly guesses that this is about a girl. He says that before the girl tries to get away, Ki-tae needs to make sure everyone knows she’s his.
“Ju Jang-mi” has its grand opening, and one of their first customers is Jang-mi and Hyun-hee’s old manager from the department store, who actually looks super cute in street clothes. Their next customer is Hoon-dong’s chef, and Hyun-hee makes him promise not to tell Hoon-dong. Yeo-reum and Jang-mi play matchmaker by sitting Chef across from Manager, and they both seem to find the other attractive. Cute.
Hoon-dong and Ki-tae show up to see the new bar, and Hoon-dong’s eyes bug out to realize Jang-mi is the girl Ki-tae’s been talking about. Yeo-reum comes out to say hello, followed by Hyun-hee, and her secret is out. Hoon-dong stomps off followed by Hyun-hee, leaving the other three to go inside.
Ki-tae tries to act like the cool boyfriend and smiles whenever Jang-mi looks his way, but he’s jealous to see how much fun Jang-mi and Yeo-reum have working together. Yeo-reum sees through him though, so Ki-tae saunters over to assure him that he’s totally fine with them working together, no problem at all, no sirree bob. Yeah, that’s not at all transparent.
Se-ah shows up next, and Jang-mi blinks when Ki-tae says he invited her since she works in the area and can bring in customers. It’s Jang-mi’s turn to be totally fine with them being friends, and she goes overboard serving Se-ah. Her uncontrollable nervous laughter makes me so embarrassed for her.
Ki-tae drives Jang-mi home that night, both of them silent and awkward. Jang-mi thinks to herself that they talk less now that they’re in a relationship than when it was make-believe, and she brazenly suggests they go to Ki-tae’s place. He’s startled, but his thoughts go to the Naughty Place again and he guns the motor. Ha.
As soon as they get there, Jang-mi retires to the restroom, leaving Ki-tae to hover outside the door as he grins in anticipation. Jang-mi calls through the door for a toothbrush and he pops in to get one, then in his eagerness he offers her use of his skin cleansing device, of all things. Weirdo.
After her shower, Jang-mi climbs in bed and Ki-tae offers to massage her tired legs. It’s not a bad seduction plan, only he’s so good at it that she falls asleep on him. He tells her sleeping face that this is a little too cool, but he lets her sleep and settles for snuggles, letting it go since she’s so cute.
But Ki-tae is in for more frustration than he bargained for, as they go on a series of dates and Jang-mi falls asleep on him every time. They cuddle on a bench in the park and he asks how the bar is doing. She says it’s really busy, and he says the clinic is doing well, too. As he boasts how great he is, she falls asleep on him again. Ouch, his poor ego.
The bar is bustling, and the two shut-out loverboys watch forlornly through the window as their ladies give everyone attention but them. It’s adorable how they get in a fight over whether Jang-mi should be doing all the heavy lifting for Hyun-hee. Ki-tae argues that Jang-mi isn’t that strong, while Hoon-dong just assumes he hasn’t been hit by her yet.
Apparently Ki-tae was lying about the clinic, and he spins in his chair in boredom, lighting up at a knock on his door but wilting when it’s only Se-ah. They go to lunch and she invites him to work with her, sweetening the offer by saying they’re planning to bring in 3D technology (a new way to show patients how they will look after the surgery is complete). She assures him she’s only interested in him as a doctor.
Hoon-dong (who observed the whole conversation) takes this information right to Jang-mi, letting her know that Ki-tae’s clinic isn’t bouncing back like he said. She claims to be fine with Ki-tae working with Se-ah, though her voice is a little too shrill to be believable.
Jang-mi calls Ki-tae but he says he’s waaay too busy to talk, and Yeo-reum says she looks depressed. She wants to be understanding, like Ki-tae is being about her working with Yeo-reum, but she’s disappointed he didn’t tell her that work was still bad. Yeo-reum tells her honestly that she’s being dumb, and to just go talk to Ki-tae, but Jang-mi just goes back to work.
Aunt Mi-jung the Spy has changed loyalties and is now working for Grandma, and reports that she found where Jang-mi’s working. She starts to tell who she’s working with when Mom interrupts and scares them to pieces.
Mom heads right to the bar and immediately clocks that Yeo-reum works there, but doesn’t say a word. Jang-mi brings her makgulli and kimchi pancakes, which Mom declares delicious. She surprises everyone by apologizing for misunderstanding Jang-mi, but warns her to stay away from Ki-tae if she isn’t sincere about him.
Jang-mi tells her she has nothing to worry about, that she doesn’t want to hurt him and that she’s got a life she’s happy about thanks to Mom and Ki-tae. Mom doesn’t look appeased though, as she watches Jang-mi work and gulps makgulli, worried for her son.
Jang-mi heads to Ki-tae’s place after work to find him neck-deep in research, but she doesn’t ask about his clinic for fear of hurting his pride. She hangs out while he works, but not even her creative calisthenics can get his attention. She finally goes to bed alone, without telling him about his mother’s visit to the bar, and admits to herself that it’s hard to be confident about their relationship.
The next day, Ki-tae and Se-ah go to the bar to put their heads together about work, while Jang-mi glares at them and hovers, trying to hear what they’re talking about. Se-ah greets a colleague who’s there to talk to them about the 3D technology (Oh hey, it’s Julien Kang!), and they all speak in English, leaving Jang-mi feeling left out. She thinks again how she and Ki-tae talk less now that they’re dating.
Yeo-reum takes matters into his own hands and visits Ki-tae, paying back his loan while he’s there. He tells Ki-tae that Jang-mi is working hard not to hurt him, and accuses him of not doing enough to make her feel secure. Who knew Yeo-reum would ever lecture someone on how to be the kind of guy a girl can depend on?
He tells Ki-tae that Jang-mi wants to be with him, but says he doesn’t act like he wants to be with her. Ki-tae asks why he has to listen to this, and Yeo-reum says it’s because he likes Ki-tae too. Awww. Though he does make sure Ki-tae knows he doesn’t mean he likes him like that.
Jang-mi’s dad sits alone and contemplates his wedding ring, which won’t come off no matter how hard he tries. He writes a postcard to Jang-mi’s mom, and later she receives a whole handful of them. HAHAHA, they all just have one word on them: “Dummy,” “Moron,” and “Mutt.” That is just so awesomely immature.
Mom shows them to Jang-mi then tears them up, and it gets even funnier when Jang-mi remembers that her parents met as pen pals. She says that at least Dad is writing to her, and she should write him back. She asks when they stopped talking and Mom doesn’t remember…she says it just happened. She says that love is over when you close your mouths, and Jang-mi has a sudden epiphany. Good girl.
She rushes off to Ki-tae’s place, as he’s dressing in a spiffy suit and remembering Yeo-reum’s words that he hasn’t been a man Jang-mi can rely on. She calls to tell him she’s on her way, but he panics and says she can’t come now. He’s cagey about why, just saying he’s got something important.
Jang-mi shows up anyway and pounds on his door, yelling for him to open up, and finally just unlocks the door herself. But he’s right there and won’t let her in, saying he doesn’t want her to see…something. She complains that she’s been honest about working with Yeo-reum and demands to know why he’s not being honest with her.
Jang-mi calms down enough to notice a pair of sexy red heels in his entryway, and Ki-tae just says he’s got a visitor and can’t talk now. She’s even more suspicious when she notices he’s dressed up, and shoves her way past him, only to find she’s barged into the middle of a magazine interview. Whoops.
Jang-mi asks why Ki-tae didn’t tell her about this, but he’s embarrassed to be using his pretty face to sell his clinic, hee. They both relax and tease each other (“So you’re a pretty boy?” “Of course, didn’t you know?”), and the interviewer asks if this is Ki-tae’s girlfriend.
Jang-mi denies it but Ki-tae throws his arm around her and says that she is. Jang-mi says it’s not good for his image and asks what if his mom sees, and asks the interviewer not to print that. They continue where they left off with Ki-tae saying that a girl has been making him uncomfortable, and everyone looks tense until the interviewer tells Jang-mi that he really wants to be with her.
Ki-tae and Jang-mi talk later, and Jang-mi finally voices her worry that they were more comfortable when their relationship was fake. Ki-tae jokes that it’s too late to show him her good side – he already knows her bad and embarrassing traits, so she should just be comfortable. She asks why he didn’t tell her about the clinic not doing well, and he admits that he wants to look good in front of her too.
Ki-tae admits (with the cutest puppy-dog eyes) the thing that’s been bothering him the most – that he wants Jang-mi to rely on him and not Yeo-reum. She says that on the contrary, she gains energy to work so hard from all the sleep she gets by leaning on him, and Ki-tae fairly twinkles with happiness to hear it.
Jang-mi says she understands his friendship with Se-ah but honestly confesses that she doesn’t really want him working with her. Ki-tae tells her that he’s been working and studying hard so that he can keep his clinic, and that Se-ah only helped him make business contacts.
Much more relaxed now, the two of them joke together, and Jang-mi proposes that they drop the whole “cool relationship” thing since being open is much better. Ki-tae agrees but makes a request – it’s okay for her to sleep comfortably next to him, but he doesn’t want to only sleep anymore. RAWR. He asks Jang-mi to be with him tonight without sleeping, and they both giggle when she agrees. So cute.
By morning they’re snuggling in bed together, as someone lets themselves in (has Ki-tae still not learned to change his code??). Jang-mi staggers out clad only in Ki-tae’s shirt, looking like a woman who’s been well and truly tumbled. She gasps to see Ki-tae’s mother there, as her own clothing strewn about the room tells Mom exactly what happened last night.
COMMENTS
Well first of all, I have to give a giant HOORAY! The secret that Ki-tae and Jang-mi are dating for real is finally out for all to see. It’s a shame (though hilarious) that it was Jang-mi’s hot pink panties that ultimately told the tale, but at least now everyone knows the truth. I’m glad that Ki-tae’s mom wasn’t kept in the dark for long, because I do think that deep down she wants Jang-mi to be the girl she thought she was. We all know that she is, and that Jang-mi and Mom have the potential to be great allies in Ki-tae’s messed-up family, but I want them to know it too.
I liked seeing the reversal in these last two episodes, how it’s now Jang-mi who’s successful career-wise and Ki-tae who is struggling. I think it gave them both a bit of perspective into the other, to see things from the opposite point of view and to understand how things can change in an instant. And it’s to their credit that they used the reversal to try to understand each other more, instead of becoming petty and bitter about it.
I’m honestly not sure how I feel about the show’s suddenly using Yeo-reum and Se-ah as forces of good rather than conflict. Their sudden change from near-villains trying to break up Ki-tae and Jang-mi, to Se-ah actually helping Ki-tae in business and Yeo-reum giving him relationship advice, is more than a bit strange. Unless I missed something, neither of them had to face any consequence of their previous actions or seemed to really have any reason to have changes of heart, other than that it serves the plot because someone was needed to do those things. It’s really the only weakness I can find in an otherwise solid story, and I find it very jarring that they just went from Bad Guys to Good Guys with no logical transition whatsoever.
But back to the positive, because there’s so much positive – I’m glad that Jang-mi and Ki-tae learned that honesty is important in a real relationship, because I was starting to get pretty frustrated. Jang-mi was right that they talked more, and were more honest, when their relationship was fake. I wanted to yell at her when Yeo-reum told her to just go talk to Ki-tae already, but she didn’t. I get why, because being in a relationship is scary, and being honest about your fears and insecurities makes you vulnerable. Showing someone your true self opens you up to rejection. But I loved their discussion about it, and how they both admitted it, because non-communication between leads is such a staple of dramas and I rarely see the characters actually sit down and actually talk about it.
And like Ki-tae said, he already knows Jang-mi’s bad and embarrassing sides. In fact it’s probably what allowed them to fall for each other in the first place, because not having to worry about keeping the relationship (since it wasn’t real) gave them both the freedom to be themselves. So by seeing each other as they truly were, instead of the facade a person usually presents when in a new relationship, they were able to truly fall in love with the real person they were seeing. It’s a foundation most couples don’t get, that chance to see the other’s true self right from the start, which is what makes me love this couple so much and think they have a chance to stay together. They know exactly who they fell for, without anyone being on their best behavior. And I love that when they started dating and they tried to present that “Best Me” side of themselves, they were both uncomfortable with how fake it felt. These two are gonna make it.
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1 happybyul
August 17, 2014 at 8:05 PM
YAAAYYY THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! loved this episode:D
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Renee
August 18, 2014 at 3:34 AM
Same! I fell a little bit out of love with this show because of how crazy the second leads were. I still really enjoyed it but just didn't get so excited. But, my love his been rekindled and I love this show even more than I did in the beginning. I was smiling and giggling the whole time and really just can't contain myself. I need the next episode.
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Dr. Hwata
August 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM
I, too, found the two second leads of this drama at times crazy and at times out of place.
But it was in this episode when I suddenly realized that they are very much like friends in my circle: they are changeable, incomprehensible at times and even hurtful some other times; yet we seem bound never to leave each other for good and to unite against any perceived common enemies or struggles. And we give as good as we receive.
In short, being friends doesn't mean being lovey-dovey or agreeable or sweet with each other at all times - that is how I am with my social acquaintances, but not with my friends or members of my family.
LollyPip writes:
"I’m honestly not sure how I feel about the show’s suddenly using Yeo-reum and Se-ah as forces of good rather than conflict. Their sudden change from near-villains trying to break up Ki-tae and Jang-mi, to Se-ah actually helping Ki-tae in business and Yeo-reum giving him relationship advice, is more than a bit strange. Unless I missed something, neither of them had to face any consequence of their previous actions or seemed to really have any reason to have changes of heart."
But I do understand. It is because they're friends who've become members of a family of choice. And there are consequences for previous actions, as much as there are acts of contrition for them.
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panda
August 18, 2014 at 3:49 AM
That scene where they dropped being in a cool relationship and Gi Tae told her he wanted her NOT TO SLEEP was made of unicorns and rainbows. Lol. I have watched it about 6 ce. It was oh so so cute
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Andrea
November 1, 2015 at 1:27 AM
I ***LOVED*** that scene! I LOVED that they talked about wanting to have sex, and that they BOTH agreed to do it. None of this jerking her by the arm and then mauling her unwilling face: instead, we get clear, up-front, adult communication about sex, and then some cute, embarrassed blushes on both sides. I squealed with happiness when she ran her foot up his leg after that chat, and then he tiptoed his fingers up her thigh. It was so sexy, but mostly, it was so *real*. This is what real people do when they are about to begin a sexual relationship: they flirt and mutually agree to sleep together. The lack of rapey overtones in this couple's sex life is (sadly) so refreshing. I love it. ^_^
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adekmanja
August 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM
@Happybyul: Such lovely, heart warming episode !
thanks Lollypip for the recap.
I am also so terribly happy to watch this episode and yunno what...? geeeezzzz... I kept watching and re-watching the last 10 - 15 minutes especially the part where there's the tete-a-tete between Jang-mi & Ki-tae on the sofa after the interview...
Ohhhhh.... so sweet how they pour their heart out - the worries of each other and the climax is the direct "request" of Ki-tae to finally seal their cool-relationship to an end! hihihi!! so cute one! ;) added with them both without much more words but tickling each other, rawr.... can you feel how it tickled too?? ha ha ha!!
Oh my... each time I think about it, I can't help help to grin :) and feel excited for them.
Incredible!! so with such feeling, gah... I tried to ignore the absurdity of Se-ah's weird kindness.
Since I used to swoon over Yeo-rum before and was once hoping if this could be a twist where the 2nd male lead to end up with the main female lead plus how cute & adorable he is + unbelievably 6-packs, so when he is being chummy and even said he likes Hyungnim Ki-tae, auwwwww.... I'm all out - melted... *lol* :) :) :)
**(did anyone see the clips of behind the scene thingey where Hoon-dong in his yellow duck outfit poked into Yeo-rum's chest..? kih kih kih! so funny lah...!)
now they are busted by Ko-tae's Mom! gah!! glad that they dont have to hide (no more lies vs Ki-tae's shirt in episode 13: Lies & more lies !)
Grandma is so supportive & I am quite sure based on the glimpse of the preview, they both are pushed to admit their true feelings and their relationship in the open to the families.
For once, the snapshot at the beginning of this episode 14, compared to all previous episodes as the style of this series for each episode, those earlier snapshots always gave us - well to me, give the wrong impression without watching the whole episode closely and especially to episode 5 or 6, where they gave hint how JM & KT on the bed but the actual scene is totally different and kind of the same for episode 13 too.
Ok, what I am trying to say is that in conclusion for this episode 14, this snapshot scene at the beginning is exactly what it is but with a more definite explanation what it is about and also it is with a happy note too!!
further, compared to the earlier episodes when Ki-tae was portrayed as an aloof person who loves living alone, so arrogant and confident with himself, his choice of colour for his clothing was mostly black & white with different shades of grey, then slowly with the joy and cheerfulness transmitted from Jang-mi and to reflect that he started opening up, the colours of his clothes started to be more colourful and the suit he wore for the magazine interview is pinkish red! so vibrant and cheerful, dont you think so?
ohhhh..... I'm to swayed away with the characters in this series I know... terribly sucked into them!...
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adekmanja
August 18, 2014 at 5:01 PM
(me again... cant stop blethering tonite...!)
what left now:
1. Wedding bells for JM & KT? ermmmmm.... would we got to see Jang-mi in a lovely wedding dress with Ki-tae saying her looking beautiful?? please.... ;)
2. Their parents... :(
2a. Divorce for both JM's & KT's parents??
2b. JM's mom had terminal illness or pregnant (?) coz she was at a hospital?
2c. JM's parents get back together?
ok my dear crazy beanie frens of MND, stay cool till Friday yeah!!
cheerio :) xxx
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2 happybyul
August 17, 2014 at 8:06 PM
also, CANNOT get over jang mi and gi tae's adorableness together, they're so much more fun when they're candid and being all smiley and lovey dovey around each other:)
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3 lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 8:07 PM
Yesss..been waiting for this recap but now I'm depressed..so glad I found this show but hated waiting every week for new episodes..love making comments and keeping updated with everyone and their views..but 2 episodes left!!!! Now I have nothing to fill weekend drama void
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Sayee
August 18, 2014 at 12:00 AM
Wait, what?There are only 2 episodes left? That's not possible! The show just started like...............
f*ck.
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adekmanja
August 18, 2014 at 4:14 PM
@lessonlearn:
I know!! It's going to be the last 2 episode this Friday & Saturday!! what to do then?
how can we ask for special episode? if ever this is possible... :)
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4 happybyul
August 17, 2014 at 8:09 PM
also, can someone please just knock gi tae's dad out and leave him in an abondoned warehouse? thanks.
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 8:28 PM
I wasn't on the dad's or mom's side..but after this episode..yeah the dad is a straight up douche..kt mom needs to kick him to the curb already..or at least find herself a man..hehe maybe bike matchmaker can help her out
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snoe
August 17, 2014 at 10:02 PM
GT's dad is a vile excuse of a human being.
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 11:08 PM
Yepp..can't even argue the back story game anymore..how does someone tell their son to live a false life..is he happy enough to let his son live the way he is
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Kim Yoonmi
August 17, 2014 at 11:30 PM
It was horrible in Korean and then horrible translated into English and then horrible the other times I listened to it and the cavalier attitude that he gave.
I do like that KT's mom straight asked him for a divorce, but it's clear it's KT's dad that's the one hanging onto the relationship, not visa versa. I find that refreshing in story terms, since mostly in dramaland it's usually the one being cheated on that hangs on with all they have.
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Emma
August 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM
I'm glad they clearly showed it was the Dad hanging on as well. I agree that too often they show the one being cheated on as the person clinging desperately to the relationship. I had an inking of what Dad's character was like when he mentioned that it would help his career promotion chances if Gi Tae ended up with Se Ah, but it was crystal clear in this episode and I think it will go a long way in helping Gi Tae find some understanding with his mom.
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lessonlearn
August 18, 2014 at 5:37 PM
the parents are playing such an important role of what not to do in a relationship..usulaly the kids follow the trend of their parents but luckliy kt and jm parents are so bad at relationships that kt and jm now has the best role model to not follow..
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nomad
August 17, 2014 at 11:40 PM
Truly a disgusting form of a human being.
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happybyul
August 18, 2014 at 8:12 AM
*abandoned* I apologize for my spelling:D
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5 makarit ak
August 17, 2014 at 8:11 PM
1st comment from philippines
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6 makarit ak
August 17, 2014 at 8:11 PM
good drama -1st comment from philippines
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7 Chandler
August 17, 2014 at 8:15 PM
Thanks for the recap :)
I swear, if Ki-tae would simply change his passcode, half the bad things that happen in this drama wouldn't happen LOL.
Haha, but I'm actually glad this happened. I've had a feeling for a while now that a later episode would end with Ki-tae's mom walking in on them and it's one of those turns that I weirdly still enjoy despite the fact that I expected it all along. I know that this situation is particularly bad because Jang-mi literally just told her there was nothing between them, but given the way Ki-tae very effectively cleared Jang-mi of all misunderstandings this episode (Go him!), I'm not that worried about how they go forward from here. In fact, I'm actually so excited.
I loved how this episode dealt with Ki-tae's and Jang-mi's growing relationship and the importance of communication :) In fact, the show is doing such a wonderful job of exploring the issues that new relationships bring, that I almost wish it had gotten here a little sooner (even though I've actually thoroughly enjoyed the pacing). But, all in all, I think this drama is on track to having perfectly satisfying final episodes next week. There's just enough conflict left to balance out cute with some nice emotional payoffs and I have faith that this drama can accomplish this wonderfully.
AHHHHHHH. But seriously. I really don't want this drama to end and that's a very unusual sentiment for me.
There's so much goodness in this episode:
1. When they were jealous, they were both SO FUNNY. It wasn't even that embarrassing for either of them because they were both acting ridiculous. So, together, they ended up just being an adorable pair.
2. Ki-tae's dancing. Um. Too cute. (Also Hoon- dong's "You can't see me?" was freakin' hilarious)
3. I loved how Ki-tae was willing to go at Jang-mi's pace and how he supported her even though she was working with Yeo-reum. All the dynamics of their relationship were wonderful to watch play out this episode because everything they did came from the right place. Jang-mi wanted a "cool" relationship precisely because, more than ever, she wanted things to work out with Ki-tae. And he was so focused on trying to be understanding of her and not to pressure her, that he didn't realize that just because she says she wants them to act "cool" doesn't mean that he needs to stop trying to convince her they should become more than that. He was great about always being there for her to lean on, but as they got more and more caught up in trying to succeed for each other and trying to seem on top of/okay with things, they had less honest conversation as a result.
This is perhaps why their conversation at the end is one of my favorite moments of them by far because they were dealing with such a real relationship issue. When you try so hard to accommodate the other's needs, or don't want someone to worry about you, you only really end up with unnecessary distance between the...
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Chandler
August 17, 2014 at 8:18 PM
...two of you. So I loved how they openly talked through their struggles and reevaluated their relationship.
4. It was really lovely to watch them both work so hard so that they could feel proud next to each other. I especially loved how Ki-tae was willing to get interviewed by a bunch of strangers in his apartment! He really has come such a long way. Really, the main reason they had such a hard time communicating was simply because they were working so hard all of the time.
5. Lastly, HOLY JESUS. Ki-tae was so hot and cute and funny when he told Jang-mi he wanted to do more than sleeping. Like seriously. How does he do that?! I was laughing and swooning all at once. I swear, in so many ways, aesthetically Yeon Woo-jin is not my type. But seriously, his expressions and the way he says/does certain things have me so smitten. And then they were just too funny and adorable on top of that!!! Why do I only get 2 more episodes of them?
Wow...how do I write this much?
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 8:34 PM
This drama has been the death of me since the first week of airing..never ever will I start a drama early on knowing it can be as good as mnd!! Hehe..but there was jus soo much good in this episode I have almost no complaints..All your observations were on point and even though dad was a douche...His tiny scene still moved the plot and story along so well..The thing I really agree with from lollipip is yr..His sudden change in attitude made no sense from the beginning..first mysterious and aloof, then clingy and childish and now Idk exaclty what phase this is..Seha I can see her turning since she always wanted to be my kt side even as a friend so helping with his business made a ton of sense..plus she was rejected so many times she probably had enough and realize that kt isn't for her anymore
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lis
August 17, 2014 at 9:54 PM
You made such great points, Chandler! I totally agree with you about YWJ, too! At first, he was not really my ideal type in looks when it came to Korean actors. But he has truly grown on me and made this character so absolutely lovable. I totally overplayed the last scene between the OTP so many times. How can any person deny Gi Tae's request when he looks so hot and delicious asking for it?? :)
Thanks for the recap, LollPip! I've been waiting for it all day and for my chance to squee over this episode.
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lemonicricket
August 18, 2014 at 6:29 AM
Totally agree about YWJ too, he's hilarious! I loved that scene of him and Hoon Dong (also consistently hilarious) dancing away like little dorks. I also can't help laughing every time Ki-tae looks up and instantly deflates when Se Ah enters a room, and she just kind of comes in with that sort of half resigned, hey whaddaya gonna do look - I swear that must have happened like ten times by now!
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Chandler
August 18, 2014 at 9:53 AM
I was actually going to say something about this! I think it's hilarious how at least once per episode lately, there will be a scene where Ki-tae is either waiting for Jang-mi or for patients etc., and it will ALWAYS turn out to be Se-ah, every single freakin' time. Like, it's happened so many times in a row now and for some reason I find it really funny.
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adekmanja
August 18, 2014 at 5:19 PM
@ Chandler: wow Chandler dear. such great recap of the recap! he he!! your views well captured the other main interesting parts of this episode and kind of includes all the cute things happening! luvs it terribly...
can't explain better, just adores the way these 2, Jang-mi & Ki-tae progress in their relationship, how they get closer and their mutual understanding, ahhhhh.... so penetrating!
especially the understanding of "not just to sleep comfortably but..." kih kih kih!! I still can't get over it... the script is one thing, the way he looked at Jang-mi and the way she responds too, rawrrrrr.....
so very happy with the nice good feeling at the end of this episode, so I am ignoring any other negative parts and only focus on these two lovey dovey couple... :)
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8 lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 8:24 PM
'You can sleep comfortably, but I don't want to just sleep' greatest line ever!!!
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adekmanja
August 18, 2014 at 5:11 PM
oh I know.... I have been rewatching this scene again and again...! how sick do I sound??
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lessonlearn
August 18, 2014 at 5:39 PM
hehehe..you sound perfectly healthy to me..it be weirder if we werent rewatching the scene over and over again..lol
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adekmanja
August 18, 2014 at 5:55 PM
ha ha! you caught me there!
oh... how I'm gonna miss this cute bantering and "chatting" over this lively lovely drama eh!!
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angskeet
August 19, 2014 at 1:34 PM
It's good that both don't beat around the bush to get what they want hahah. It's nice to see something different for a change in korean dramas!
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9 karen
August 17, 2014 at 8:28 PM
Loved! This! Episode! SO many reasons why, but here are a few!
1) the sound effects. They kill me every episode but esp this time when they coincide with GT's dance moves. And oh the dancing! From both GT and HD!! So cute!
2) the understanding. GT really sees how JM's is looked down on by his family. And also he finally (as well as me) sees how his parents relationship truly is as well as his dad. So skeazy. Its way worst that he got married with adultery preplanned.
3) the last 10 mins!! From their open dialogue to their cute little moments to the mom walking in to a pretty evident scene. And with the cherry on top JM walks out in GT's t-shirt... and obviously nothing else on!!! PRICELESS!!!
4) the letters. JM's dad left with side stitches. I really thought it would be a cute heartfelt letter! But I loved that it wasn't!
5) Just the all the good old pettiness we have been missing out on! The crazed awkward laughing scene at the restaurant was such an obvious moment where JM was trying to be "cool" and failing miserably.
These were just some highlights of mine but it was such a fun hour watch!! So sad i have to wait a week for more of these two and to see how exactly his mom handles the situation she walked into!!
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10 Z
August 17, 2014 at 8:28 PM
1) My son is only three years old right now. But, if 20 years from now, I walk into his home and see women's clothes strewn all over, I'm turning around and running right back out and pretending I don't know anything. What mom stands around and waits to see who comes out of the room so that everyone can die of awkwardness? Boundaries, lady! That's why you and your son have so many issues as it is... you ain't got no boundaries!
2) Dad is a slimeball. Such a slimeball.
3) Rape Girl is all "Don't tell my husband that I'm involved in this new cafe business... oh, hold on, let me just invite everyone I know and then put on an apron and work out in the open for the world to see."
4) I love it when my Rom-Coms stay Rom-Coms! For the first time ever I'm watching, not one but two shows that have stayed funny even through the angsty parts. This show is so super hilarious.
5) The Julien Kang cameo made my life! Why is that man allowed to walk around being so very beautiful? That's a crime, right? I realize that I've never actually watched any of his shows, though? Can he act? The little snippet I saw here was not very promising.
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Karen
August 17, 2014 at 8:34 PM
Your #4 what is the other rom-com?!?
Also I very much agree with you on #1! I would get out of there as fast as i could!
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Z
August 17, 2014 at 8:49 PM
Oh sorry, meant to mention, the other one is Fated To Love You. Even in the really sad episodes a couple of weeks ago they managed to introduce some levity and they bounced back quickly after some necessary angst.
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wanie
August 17, 2014 at 9:39 PM
You should watch high kick 3: revenge of the short legged. Julien Kang acted in there :)
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harmonyfb
August 18, 2014 at 3:30 AM
>What mom stands around and waits to see who comes out of the room so that everyone can die of awkwardness?
THIS. I'm the Mom of a grown daughter, and I would never just stroll into her apartment without calling, let alone knocking! (So rude. And potentially awkward...or scarring, even. ::laugh::)
And if you did walk in someone else's house and there were intimates strewn across the floor, the least you could do would be to call out so that they have warning that someone is there (so they don't do something like wander out with no panties on in front of their secret boyfriend's mother. Oy.)
>I love it when my Rom-Coms stay Rom-Coms!
This is the first one that I thought actually stayed light and funny throughout (except for that one episode, but I can forgive because it went right back to the funny). Even when it has me feeling sorry for the leads, I'm still laughing.
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11 Angskeet
August 17, 2014 at 8:31 PM
I think this drama will end very well! I'm excited for EP15&16!
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12 tapiocapearl
August 17, 2014 at 8:38 PM
This is good. I'm stoked for the last two episodes now, and I just love that we finally get to see Jang-mi and Ki-tae be boyfriend and girlfriend. When it's just the two of them on screen, it feels like a completely different show. I enjoy watching their honesty with each other and their cuteness, of course. They have been such an awesome pairing.
I agree with you on Se-ah and Yeo-reum not really getting their comeuppance. So they are just two gorgeous people who meddle in multiple people's lives and they get to be nice, caring friends at the end? If that's what the writer wanted from the beginning, for everyone to be nice and cheerful with each other, then why bother making those two characters go down the road of desperation in the first place? It's like the writer couldn't make up their mind and just tried things. That is my only gripe with this show now.
I'm sad Mom was again lied to just when she was warming up to Jang-mi again. I can't even fault her for her impending coldness because it is justifiable this time around. I'm waiting for this drama to wrap up nicely and give all the characters I like and love their deserved ending.
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alcoholicbubbletea
August 17, 2014 at 10:11 PM
Yesss ive commented on ep 13 about how i cant believe that were given such a sweetheart version of yeoreum just an episode after he deliberately hugged jangmi just for gitae's mom to see! Like, as a viewer i cant believe he could work with jangmi with no other motive and in ep 13 i thought he wasnt gonna keep his word and seduce jangmi but this ep he was such an angel. Doesnt make sense! Se ah is still acceptable bc technically she was helping gitae and she doesnt care about jangmi. But yeoreum? Um... like someone here mentioned before, he went from being extremely good looking, to prince charming then gold digger then homeless puppy then manipulative bitter ex and now hes a saint. Wut. I know people change but at least make it like hoon dongs progression. Sigh.
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ruminations
August 18, 2014 at 12:56 AM
I can't help but wonder what comeuppance HYR deserved in all honesty. I would hardly call what he did meddling. He was courting, rightfully so, a single woman who had shown an interest in him.
Yes, hugging her deliberately in front of Gi Tae's mom was a bit a douchey, but it was also a human thing to do. He didn't premeditate it, it was a split second decision and a really desperate one at that. The girl he had been courting and was showing a legitimate interest in and up until that point was doing the same, suddenly says she is no longer interested after he opened up to her. Yeah I can imagine in the grand total of 30 seconds after hearing that he was like "Oh that's cool, no biggie". It does not mean his actions weren’t wrong it just mean he is not some evil person.
That's literally the only thing I got on the guy. Please let the boy writhe in hell.
If that’s called meddling that when should hold GGT up to the same standard. I just don't like how everyone throws shade at HYR, when GGT did the same thing. Why such a double standard? GGT used to sabotage their dates all the time, and manipulate JJM into abandoning HYR. I don't see how he is any better? Just because he ended up with her?
Half of mom's reaction was based on GGT and JJM's actions and their fake marriage. It' not like HYR was fabricating the truth. They had been dating. The situation was already there, he just bought it to light in a ill manner. Therefore GGT and JJM need to held accountable for their reactions as well as HYR.
I actually enjoyed the fact that the writer took this route. Sometimes in life you got to learn to bow out gracefully and I like that eventually both second leads came to that. They learnt they can be bitter and manipulative and alienate the people they care about (just because a person does not reciprocate ones feelings does not make this null and void), or they can accept it and support them. It’s called being mature.
God isn't it nice to see people being mature? I think it was appropriate character growth and not so out of the realm of possibility.
Just to clarify I love GGT and JJM, they are my ship and probably one of the greatest couples in dramaland. JJM and HYR, never had that spark, that raw energy that the lead pair have. So I don’t have second lead syndrome or anything. I just don’t think GGT and JJM are patron saints, and people need to hold the accountable for their actions too . Too many people seem to have the lead couple bias.
Plus why the need for blood? The lead couple is happy and amazing. HYR and KSA are moving on with their lives. I think losing the ones they care about is comeuppance enough. Why the need for more suffering? I would rather see some more cute GGT and JJM moments than HYR and KSA getting their comeuppance to be quiet honest.
But maybe I am weird like that :)
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Chandler
August 18, 2014 at 1:17 AM
Very well written. I agree!
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alcoholicbubbletea
August 18, 2014 at 1:42 AM
i dont think people want more conflicts. just i would appreciate yr more had we been given some sort of a progression. its as if the writer was too in love with the main pairings that the second leads are changed just to support the main pairings and arent given personalities of their own.
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ruminations
August 18, 2014 at 2:34 AM
Lol sometimes I read these comments and I am like have we been watching the same show. For HYR the progression is 100% on point.
He has always been cool and casual about him and JJM's relationship, no matter how emotionally invested he was. He is going to be cool and casual about if after. Because thats the kind of person he has, is and will be.
How many guys would not make a huge fuss about someone they are basically dating kissing another guy. Not too many. How many guys would be like ,"Yeah go ahead and be fake engaged with little or no explanation to how its beneficial to you or me, sure thing sweetpea".
He was really tolerant of JJM and HYR's relationship. She said he liked him he took her word for it. She said he was no longer interested he had his moment and carried on. I think the reason why he acted like that, because well know HYR has huge abandonment issues. In that moment I think he was confronted with that and so he reacted harshly.
I think he has been given a personality of his own and the show has been consistent with that. He doesn't want to be lonely and gets attached to things, but he also knows life goes on. He learnt that after his mum left, he practiced it after him JJM were over. He is not going to stomp his feet and scream and make a huge deal about it. He has always had a moral compass, returning the money after JJM found it about him spying, paying for the truffles, generally using only expired ingredients and paying GGT back for his loan. He is not going to try and hit on someone who he respects and admires like GGT's woman. It's not in his nature.
Correct me if I am missing something, I rarely rewatch episodes, but I don't think HYR's character lacks progression at all.
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ruminations
August 18, 2014 at 2:37 AM
Lol sometimes I read these comments and I am like have we been watching the same show. For HYR the progression is 100% on point.
He has always been cool and casual about him and JJM's relationship, no matter how emotionally invested he was. He is going to be cool and casual about if after. Because thats the kind of person he has, is and will be.
How many guys would not make a huge fuss about someone they are basically dating kissing another guy. Not too many. How many guys would be like ,"Yeah go ahead and be fake engaged with little or no explanation to how its beneficial to you or me, sure thing sweetpea".
He was really tolerant of JJM and HYR's relationship. She said he liked him he took her word for it. She said she was no longer interested he had his moment and carried on. I think the reason why he acted like that, because well know HYR has huge abandonment issues. In that moment I think he was confronted with that and so he reacted harshly.
I think he has been given a personality of his own and the show has been consistent with that. He doesn't want to be lonely and gets attached to things, but he also knows life goes on. He learnt that after his mum left, he practiced it after him JJM were over. He is not going to stomp his feet and scream and make a huge deal about it. He has always had a moral compass, returning the money after JJM found it about him spying, paying for the truffles, generally using only expired ingredients and paying GGT back for his loan. He is not going to try and hit on someone who he respects and admires like GGT's woman. It's not in his nature.
Correct me if I am missing something, I rarely rewatch episodes, but I don't think HYR's character lacks progression at all.
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alcoholicbubbletea
August 18, 2014 at 7:01 AM
ah well, if you put it that way... thats understandable. im just more on lollypip's train of thoughts. i mean, i do want OT6 to end up together, like another beach getaway would be lovely. its just hard to swallow for me, especially with no time jump. i would understand yeoreum not being pushy to jangmi, but him being #1 shipper was a little off for me.
like with reply1994 (i keep referring to that show its the last one i managed to finish, sigh). chilbong went back to the sinchon group all nice, but after some time spent separated. i could understand that more.
i do agree that the main leads need some schooling. but what i liked about gitae's character is that he's learning to be a better boyfriend, he's not suddenly a nice boyfriend.
but yeah, people see things from different POVs. i hope youre not too upset by the comments about YR here ^^
Adal
August 18, 2014 at 5:00 AM
@ ruminations Thank you so much for your comment. I read the recaps and the subsequent comments which left me baffled. What did Yeo reum do that was so wrong? Are we watching the same drama, here? If anything, Jang mi and Yeo reum were the ones legitimately dating, and I can 't count the number of times Gi Tae sabotaged their dates and even kissed Joo Jang mi when she was still dating someone else.
The fact that Jang mi and Gi Tae ended up together doesn't excuse his actions. If you want to get technical about it, you could even accuse Jang mi of two timing her boyfriend Yeo reum, who was being remarkably patient with Jang mi's and Gi Tae's 'fake' relationship.
If anything, the ones who need their comeuppance in this drama are the lead couple. Don't get me wrong, I ship Gi Tae with Jang mi more than anything and think they make a cute and lovely couple. But I'm not wearing any blinders or developing selective amnesia just because they are the main leads who everyone wants to end up together!
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adekmanja
August 18, 2014 at 5:38 PM
@ ruminations : well & nicely summed up !
I really like the way you lay down the way and why YR acted the way he did things. Though there wasnt much sparkle between him & JM, and I am not someone who has the 2nd lead syndrome, I admit I have doubt in the beginning & as you correctly highlighted that Ki-tae is equally such and a**hole too but the story is cleverly crafted that viewer like me was swooned to focus on how the OTP to develop feelings to each other & started to try to stump out the 2nd lead especially when they are given the evil calculative & manipulating scheming approach.
anyway, I am so very happy with the state Jang-mi & Ki-tae is now, and I am totally ignoring all the angst caused by YR & Se-ah earlier *lol*
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13 Alexio
August 17, 2014 at 8:44 PM
How did Hoon Dong, the boss, end up peeling onion for Yeo-reum's restaurant? Haha. I think he's bored at his own restaurant.
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 8:48 PM
I think it was more to gossip to jm about how kt is doin since..by far the bestest and most caring friend..lol
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Kim Yoonmi
August 18, 2014 at 6:39 AM
Which is a type of reversal in of itself. =P The men's friendship is more like the women's in shows. Whereas the women's friendship has the element of men's in most shows.
HD, clearly cares about his friend a lot, even accepting that his friend might be gay, even after dating all those women. Also, dancing with him. =D
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14 Jennifer Calabrese
August 17, 2014 at 8:48 PM
Anyone else notice that her bra (left on the couch) was white but she was clearly wearing a black bra - you could see it under her white shirt...those little things drive me crazy!
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 9:59 PM
Hehe..I didn't notice the bra but I counted how many underwear and shorts there were and I kept seeing one too many pair..lmao
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patinalee
August 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM
Well, it wasn't Jang Mi's first nite at Gi Tae's. Can we assume that she had spare clothing stashed there? :-D
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 11:09 PM
Lol..so your argument is she went into the bathroom..put series lingerie on and came back out?? I would think the black bra was much series then the one on the couch..but that's me :) them hot pink panties were a nice touch though :D
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15 panshel
August 17, 2014 at 8:48 PM
I love the resolution to last episode's cliffhanger. He didn't pout nor beg; just simply asked, "Whoever said anything about marriage?" So Gong Ki Tae. I thought the events would unfold with Ki Tae accepting Se Ah's job offer; then because his clinic closed down, Hoon Dong's restaurant would have no customers, so he would go work at the bar; then because Se Ah's hospital is close to the bar, they would all hang out there like Cheers. Where everybody knows your name~ But I am relieved Ki Tae is doing everything he can to save his clinic. I felt proud seeing him study because he finally stopped waiting around for Jang Mi while she played aloof. I cheered at his snide remark about her always being sleepy every time she is around him. Is their bar 24 hours? Her constant falling asleep was so inconsiderate of his feelings. I could feel their awkward silences through my computer screen. Couples usually run out of things to talk about years into their relationship, but they just started dating. That is not a good sign. Thank goodness they were back to their Chatty Cathy selves after dropping the "cool" act. I don't see anything wrong with Mom catching them, other than the embarrassment for both parties. But this is a good way for her to realize they are together and are serious with each other. Where in the world did Hyun Hee get the money to open a bar? Thanks for the recap, LollyPip!
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Chandler
August 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM
I think her constant falling asleep was partly meant to show how comfortable she was around him. I don't really think she was that inconsiderate (a little bit, yes) because she obviously treasured the moments she got to sleep on his shoulder and even sited it as her reason for being able to work so hard.
Also I don't think they necessarily ran out of things to say, but that they simply had to make it through that awkward friends-to-lovers transition. When you think about it, they've never really gone through the "how do I impress this person" stage because they moved directly to the "I can be myself around this person" stage as soon as they met. So now that they're dating, it's almost like they felt the need to go back to the stage they missed because now they care what the other person thinks. It actually shows how much they've come to respect each other. They just needed to mess up a bit first to see that the reason they wanted to be together in the first place was because they had a relationship in which they could be themselves.
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liza
August 17, 2014 at 11:54 PM
Well said, Chandler :) as always I like all your perceptive comments!
'the reason they wanted to be together in the first place was because they had a relationship in which they could be themselves'. I like this one because it's essential in order to make a relationship works in the long run. This is what makes their relationship extra special and meaningful. Even when she intends to appear good in front of him, she can't help but shamelessly fell asleep on their date. Granted she's just too tired working at the restaurant which is fine an excuse. Though I find it absurd and frustrating, I like it that she can do that comfortably around him
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liza
August 17, 2014 at 10:18 PM
I remember she mentioned to JM that the money came from her savings when working at the boutique
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 11:11 PM
Yep..she said it was the money before her marriage and considering the business wasn't doing well and they were asking for handouts from the mom I can believe so..but jm only out in 5000..it shouldn't be that cheap with those three to only put in 155 for a business so I'm guessing she out in a lot more
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harmonyfb
August 18, 2014 at 3:42 AM
>Her constant falling asleep was so inconsiderate of his feelings.
Oh, no - it's accurate. Opening your own business - especially a restaurant where you're running at full speed for hours at a time - is exhausting and stressful. Until you've toughened up a bit, you're going to be doing nothing but working and sleeping.
I just wonder how JM's explaining to her mother where she's been every night. ;)
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Adal
August 18, 2014 at 6:48 AM
Agreed. I think the stress of opening her own business and the fact that she was so comfortable with Gi Tae was why she kept falling asleep on him.
As for her mom, frankly, I don't think she cares where Jang mi spends the night. Remember what Jang mi told Gi Tae, both parents were so busy working and spend their nights in seperate rooms so when she woke up she hardly ever saw her parents, they were like strangers living in the same house. It was only when Gi Tae was with them, that they made an effort to appear as a family. She probably didn't even notice that Jang mi sleeps elsewhere.
As for Jang mi, the atmosphere at home must be toxic, and she would probably like to avoid that as much as possible.
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Chandler
August 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM
Exactly. The thing is, she could have chosen napping during those times, but instead she chose going on dates with him. And what's a boyfriend for if not for lending a shoulder in time of need? :)
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adekmanja
August 18, 2014 at 5:51 PM
oh sweet thoughts Chandler! Like it :) My justification to my hubby why I can sleep soundly coz I fully trust him & comfortable when he's driving ! hehehe! ;)
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panshel
August 18, 2014 at 7:49 PM
I do understand her reasons for falling asleep and Ki Tae was more than sympathetic, but I still felt hurt on his behalf. To compare, when students fall asleep in class, there are a number of reasons (homework, studying, part-time jobs, partying), but to the professor, they can't help feeling it is because their lecture is boring. On the park bench, she fell asleep in the middle of his sentence, so niggling at the back of his mind would be he is not interesting enough to keep her awake. He didn't say "you're always sleepy whenever you see me" maliciously (he said it in a nice tone), but I liked it because it showed he noticed and he was bothered by it.
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16 lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 8:58 PM
The ost my han groo was such a pleasant surprise..she sounds so happy and cheery jus like her character
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17 Marina
August 17, 2014 at 9:46 PM
No. More. Evil. Second. Leads. From now on. Kdrama is changed forever. Coz that's what we want. Oh, and this particular mother-in-law is so human, I just want to hug her.
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 10:01 PM
I say do away with them all..do we really need crazy second leads don't don't exist anywhere other then kdrama land..but yr transition was so bumpy and didn't seem seamless for me to even take serious and the acting made me care even less..overall the 2nd leads were the weakest to me and hh and hoon were much better characters
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liza
August 18, 2014 at 12:17 AM
It seems like the writer is panicking that YR got lots of haters due to his jealous antics so the sudden transition is a way to win back our affection for him (but not me because I never care about him anyway). Also what's so wrong with second leads being evil all the way to the end? It's not like it never happens in real life
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Marina
August 18, 2014 at 6:37 AM
In real live normal people give up their unrequited loves pretty fast and move on - lots of other fish in the ocean. If they don't, it's called obsessive tendencies and they ether become addicts, seek a therapist or, unfortunately, buy a gun and show up at the ex's door. Only in Kdramas the rejected lovers become a weird combination of Cruella De Vil, Count Monte Cristo and after plastic surgery Frankenstein. All rolled into one with a complicated revenge plan.
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lessonlearn
August 18, 2014 at 2:16 PM
hehehe..really without them would of OTP have gotten together..at least seeing how crazy other people act can have a positive impact on your own life..if someone was that obsessed with me i would jus ignore there phone call like Hoon in the beginning but where would all the fun be in that
18 catrona
August 17, 2014 at 10:05 PM
Does anyone know what were ratings for episodes 13 and 14?
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM
U can most likely check them on the mnd wiki page or Asianwiki..they usually got the ratings a day after its been air
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Chandler
August 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM
I know that 13 had the highest rating yet at 3.3, but I'm not sure about 14 yet :)
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 11:15 PM
The show is killing it for the paid cable ratings but I think it still falls short to reply 1997..it's much higher the king of savvy though
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windsun33
August 18, 2014 at 3:07 PM
That 3.3 is one of the highest I have ever seen for a cable show - it is usually in the 1.2 to 2.0 range.
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lessonlearn
August 18, 2014 at 5:41 PM
its one of the highest but reply 1994 and 1997 hit pass 7% which was the record before the most recent one beat 1997..
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19 azraqey
August 17, 2014 at 10:11 PM
I can't count how many times I've replayed this episode. I love the honest conversation and all conversation Jang Mi-Gi tae had. They looked so real and it reflected how a normal couple looked like.
How come Yeon Woo Jin's voice is so soothing every time he speak? *clutched hand at heart and died thousand times*
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20 mg
August 17, 2014 at 10:16 PM
Love this show to pieces. HD and GT's interactions always kill me. HD had a douchy past but deep down he's just a kind hearted manchild. Their friendship is so endearing because both are honest to each other and understand each others weaknesses.
HD: "You can't see me"
GT: [shaking around on cloud 9] "What?"
HILARIOUS!!!
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Chandler
August 17, 2014 at 10:34 PM
HAHA loved that moment.
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lessonlearn
August 17, 2014 at 11:13 PM
Everyone is finally on the hoon train with me..I like that even though he looks ridiculous he still plays out his roll..and for him to be happy since kt is hapoy with jm thay tells how great a friend he is..then the fighting outside about how tough jm is and how she beat him..lmao
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mg
August 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM
Agreed!! HD is the best comic relief in a kdrama in a long time. Seriously that actor and Yeon Woo Jim have the best reaction expressions! That coupled with the sound effects make this drama so fun to watch.
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tapiocapearl
August 18, 2014 at 12:27 AM
Total WWE fan here. That "you can't see me" thing was a reference to John Cena, and I just love it when K-dramas make references to things I know and love here in the U.S. That was a totally cute scene.
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21 crimsonone
August 17, 2014 at 10:17 PM
If looks could kill - Han Yeo Reum would be dead!! Those side eyes he was getting from Mama Gong when she visited the restaurant were lethal. She most definitely is NOT a fan!
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tapiocapearl
August 18, 2014 at 12:07 AM
She and I would get along so well!!
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patinalee
August 18, 2014 at 12:23 AM
And neither am I! I thought he was a turd for all his interactions with my favourite couple - from him conceitedly informing Jang Mi that girls usually ask for him and not Ho Doong at the restaurant (1st episode) up to wheedling a bunking arrangement with Jang Mi after being kicked out from the restaurant and everything else beyond. He progressed into a low-down turd with that intentional hug in front of Gi Tae's mom, calculated to draw bad blood between Jang Mi and Mom without any benefit to anyone, himself included, with the fall out rippling through both families leaving heartaches everywhere.
The sudden transformation from low-down turd to Mr. Nice guy is inexplicable, hard to believe.
Rant over. :-)
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22 yumii
August 17, 2014 at 10:20 PM
Thanks for the recap of my favorite drama running.
". . .then in his eagerness he offers her use of his skin cleansing device, of all things. Weirdo."
I assume this was product placement same as the billboard for Restylane that is crowding his desk.
Read more: http://www.dramabeans.com/2014/08/marriage-not-dating-episode-14/#ixzz3AiZmuSG8
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tapiocapearl
August 18, 2014 at 12:29 AM
Ugh, PPLs. They make me laugh. As do integral scenes in dramas where they force the actors to speak English.
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fab
August 18, 2014 at 6:10 AM
I wanted to hear Julien Kang speak Korean! Because he can, we've seen him in Golden Cross.
I thought the cleaning device was hilarious! She got a smooth skin from it, that's some considerate bf...
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Moonbean
August 20, 2014 at 7:03 AM
He was speaking mostly Korean in Potato Star. But he was playing a foreigner so his character had an accent and would often mix words up.
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23 Ek Ladhki Thi is Kim Eun-sooks no 1 fan
August 17, 2014 at 10:25 PM
I'm getting a very Coffee Princey vibe from this show, especially these last few episodes. They remind me of when Han-kyul and Eun-chan finally start dating and then the whole I want to be a woman worthy of you business came up. Also, the leads are so relaxed with one another it also feels like Coffee Prince. I must really miss YEH to see her and CP everywhere. On the one hand, I don't want this show to end because I want more Ki-tae/Jang-mi but on the other hand, I want to watch their story being laid to rest with the feeling that all will end well.
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mjfan
September 19, 2016 at 10:21 PM
Oh yeah totally agree I also got coffee Prince vibes coz of how comfortable and relaxed the leads are together
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24 peaches
August 17, 2014 at 10:39 PM
1. let's not call hyun hee rape girl anymore. please.
2. yeon woo jin's dance moves are A++
3. is it just me who's noticing this...but in almost every scene where jang mi's sleeping, her eyes aren't closed all the way through, and i can see the tiniest sliver of the white of her eyeballs peeking through, which is quite distracting actually(~_~;) no hate though, seeing as i love her character and how she's been portrayed by han groo so far.
4. i wish the roles had been reversed for a bit longer, with him being the clingy, needy boyfriend and jang mi actually succeeding in being "cool" and independent instead of them both caving at the end of the episode. it only lasted for an episode! but i guess that can't be helped, since there's only going to be two more episodes(T_T)
5. some people have been saying that yeo reum and se ah's characters have been inconsistent, but i don't see it that way. i think yeo reum was attracted to jang mi and did like her, so that manipulative hug was his last desperate attempt to hold on to her, spurred out of jealousy. i feel like he's resigned himself to the fact that jang mi and gi tae have a mutual attraction, and so dealt with his feelings privately. he's smoothed them away, and so now he's back to being his "cool," charming self. and, as he says, he also likes gi tae as a friend and his hyung.
se ah, also- at the beginning, she was cool and collected, very sophisticated. the sperm thing is a little hard to get over, i suppose, because it's quite weird, but there was that bit where she explained her view on marriage to jang mi in the hospital. she spiraled downwards as she witnessed jang mi and gi tae's relationship grow unexpectedly stronger and stronger. and now, she's finally accepted that they will likely never be together again in a romantic sense and so she's recovered her dignity and acting as a friend working in the same field, to him again. or, i am reading too much into their characters and the writing is spottier than i would believe.
6. ahhh i love this show. i could ramble on, but i'll stop here for now.
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Chandler
August 17, 2014 at 10:56 PM
Thank you for what you wrote about the second leads because I completely agree. I don't applaud all the writer's choices for their characters, but I don't feel like they simply went from Bad to Good, especially Yeo-reum. The one bad thing he did (the hug) was his breaking point and an understandable one considering the fact that he had to watch the girl he was dating fall for someone else right in front of him. He felt bad about being petty in that moment and has since backed off. He's probably helping now because he feels bad about what he did. I agree about Se-ah too, while still thinking that her character should have been written waaaay differently.
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fab
August 18, 2014 at 6:11 AM
YR was never a bad character to begin with!
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Dani Serodio Gamus
August 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM
I agree with your comments on Yeo-reum, not so much on Se-ah's. I think she has finally come to terms that she can't coerce Ki-tae away from Jang-mi but that doesn't mean (to me) that she's back to being a supportive friend. I'm not sure if she ever WAS a real "friend." I think she's made it fairly clear that she's had feelings for him long before they got engaged so even though it's never been said explicitly I can just image her throughout all their years of growing up together actively working to ruin any relationship of Gi-tae behind his back and being a friend to his face.
Right now I see her actions as continuing to be manipulative and opportunistic, just not in the same blatant way. I think she's gone back to hanging back and wait for the first sign of trouble from Ki-tae's relationship to try to weasel her way in. The easiest way to do that is to stay close and oh! How lucky for her! Ki-tae's clinic is doing poorly and it's already been established that her dad has wanted Ki-tae to work for him. I think she MIGHT have felt something resembling shame after she laid everything out to Ki-tae and he still rejected her but since she never truly seem to be remorseful of her spiral into insanity (I guess that's the Catch-22, you can't be crazy if you recognize yourself to be crazy?) I don't buy that she's repented and just being a good friend now.
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trotwood
August 18, 2014 at 1:52 AM
As a person who really thought Se Ah was the craziest second lead female ever with the sperm thing, I agree with you. I actually liked what they did with her character because what makes me crazy about these types of second female leads is that they make them so crazy and desperate that I don't understand them. Se Ah in beautiful, rich, successful, and smart. This is true for almost every second female lead like her. I have never understood how we are supposed to believe that women like them consistently fall a part forever when a man they love leaves them. She did her bit and took a ride on the crazy train. Who doesn't after a break up? But what I like here is that she does truly like/love Gi Tae and knows him and gives him up. She makes her last stance and then she releases him. She (like Yeo Reum and Git Tae) does not hate Jang Mi--the story set up the potential friendships on that beach trip. The two of them breaking up was not only good for Gi tae but robably good for her, too, in the long run. She has the potential not to be crazy, but she would have stayed that way if her tactics had worked. She is a smart woman(all the advice she gives to Gi tae is spot on), so I am happy to not see another smart (remember she is a doctor, too) fall apart permanently. Now it is time for Gi tae's mom to get a divorce!
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Jae
August 19, 2014 at 8:20 PM
I think part of the crazy is not unrealistic for her. She realized she needed to back off, but she's been there for years. And when you hang onto something and wait for it for years, letting go takes a little bit of crazy, not unlike. She waited and waited and then watched it all fall apart in just a matter of weeks. Even the crazy sperm thing was part keeping a connection and hoping it turns into something more, and part keeping at least some parting gift of the person she loved. It's not like the leads who have just met someone and become inexplicably obsessed with making them theirs. I think those kinds of leads are mostly chalked up to women with such huge superiority complexes that losing to anyone they think is inferior is just impossible to let slide.
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Jae
August 19, 2014 at 8:23 PM
Wow, I ended up with so many cut off sentences. I meant "her not letting go so easily is not unlike the lead's parents. Each pair has been together so long that even though it's basically been over for years the death throes are still ugly."
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BedeliaJane
August 18, 2014 at 6:42 AM
3. I notice JM's sleeping eyes too. But in real life, I have seen people who sleep like that.
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peaches
August 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM
right, i have family who sleep with their eyes slightly open too, so i'm just wondering if they specifically asked her to sleep like that to give it an air of realism. i mean, i've never seen a drama where the heroine slept with her eyes slightly open, unless for comedic effect...so i'm just really curious, especially since i doubt that the staff didn't catch it as they were filming or editing.
on a different note, i also disagree with lollypip's "poor kitae" for suffering emotionally and physically in this episode. jang mi had her share of jealousy too and hi, hello, jang mi was more worn out physically from all her hours at the shop. i know that's not what you meant by "physically" but...i just really, really hate it when people pity the guy when he's left sexually frustrated, as if the girl has an obligation and as if women don't have sexual needs too.
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Arhazivory
August 19, 2014 at 6:19 PM
I found it quite realistic. It's just a the whites of her eyes and it brought a very natural felt to those scenes. I give her props cause I can't fake that....well I'm not an actress so whatever. Lol
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25 Dani Serodio Gamus
August 17, 2014 at 10:46 PM
Thanks for the recap, LP!
I've really enjoyed Jang-mi and Ki-tae these past two episodes. Up until this week I felt like the show hadn't given me enough reasons to root for this pairing except for the fact that I was "supposed to." This is the first week where I felt like "YES! Thank you! Finally I can enthusiastically root for these guys!" I've been so frustrated for so long 'cause I WANTED to want them together but I felt like the show didn't give me enough reasons for it.
I thought the whole sex propositioning thing was a little weirdly set up/executed but I'm a big fan of the movement to make consent an explicit and sexy thing to do (As it is! Nothing is sexier than knowing your partner wants it as much as you!), a conversation to be had, so I'm glad they added it (whoop!).
My only real complaint about the recap is you bunching Se-ah and Yeo-reum together as the confusing "Bad-guys turned Good-guys." I never considered those two in the same category -- I don't buy into the proposed plot line where they were working together to separate Ki-tae and Jang-mi a few episodes ago. There was no reason to believe that except for dramaland's trustworthy ability to make important events happen coincidentally at the same time. Se-ah is just crazy times and she's honestly just a scary, scary crazy person -- I think she's not become nice, I think she just still being manipulative and opportunistic to get close to Ki-tae. Yeo-reum, on the other hand, has made a lot of mistakes but at the end of the day I've never doubted that he's always felt affection towards Jang-mi after getting to know her (and the same regarding Ki-tae). He had a moment of selfishness in front Ki-tae's mom but I think that by now he's realized it's game over. The three of them became a little family while the two boys lived together so it makes sense he wants to take care of his family, even if it's not what he might want for himself.
If anything the person (apart from Se-ah) that made a big change this episode FOR NO REASON AT ALL is Hyun-hee... untrustworthy, gold-digger was basically her unofficial title (rapist is the official one) and now she's trying to make her own independent fortune, support her friend and be a good person in general? UH.. A WHA, WHAT?!
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26 pimpy
August 17, 2014 at 11:33 PM
Can you tell me guys how can I get over with this drama? It's ending next week and as much as I want to see a happy ending, I also don't want to let go my nemo couple yet. I'm practically obsessed that I stalk all blog sites where this is recapped, videos on yt, tweets abt it and forums. Good thing there would be a tvN awards by the end of the year, I'm excited to have my feed of Jang Mi and Gi Tae again :)
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lessonlearn
August 18, 2014 at 3:20 PM
ohh u aint the only one dreading next week's last episodes..my only thought is to run through old shows to clear the weekends until something else comes on..heheh..
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27 Kim Yoonmi
August 17, 2014 at 11:51 PM
"Unless I missed something, neither of them had to face any consequence of their previous actions or seemed to really have any reason to have changes of heart, other than that it serves the plot because someone was needed to do those things."
Yeo-reum gave up somewhere after Jang Mi smacked down boundaries on his butt. After the hug, they had that falling out. And to reverse expectations, the writer let the characters do their own thing. That included making Yeo Reum stand on his own two feet.
Se-Ah gave up after she saw how much GT liked JM at the wedding, where he had the shouting match with JM and she gave permission for him to chase JM. That was her moment of change.
In another words, the writer chose self-respect for the secondary leads over hanging on indefinitely, which is what real people do. You can see that was the theme of the last few episodes, because at the top, it played it for drama, but when you got there, the change in music and acting (They were not the same cuts) you found that the scene was not so dramatic, and it was more about self-respect than it was about drama and conflict. Preserving the veneer.
The writer has been doing that a lot throughout the series, playing with the drama tropes and doing reversals. For example, JM says she doesn't want to be a Cinderella in this episode. KT is actually shown working and working hard (No telescopes--and the writer has made a point of it that they met up after he works or on weekends--such as when JM had to make pancakes and he couldn't show up to rescue her as the drama trope called for). Instead of the drama lovey-dovey scenes, you see JM sleeping on all of the dates. The event that KT prepared (which was hilarious, BTW) for the proposal got instantly dissolved. Even the last few previews have been playing with the expectation of the viewers to be to that stereotypical drama standard and then pulled a reversal by showing they had recut everything to be different.
Last episode they pulled a "Let's set up Big misunderstanding" and it turned on its head and became a confession. (I, BTW, loved that a whole lot--I watched once for how they changed up the dialog from OMG, groan.... he's going to misunderstand to, WHA? O.o; Confession? and laughing over it.)
So, this time the secondary leads get self-respect, but it's admittedly a subtle hand the writer pulled.
I also thought the first time I watched this episode. *cough* I watched it a lot of times, that JM falling asleep showed extreme trust of GT. The fact she wasn't uptight over it, echoed the words she said later about leaning on him. Also, it was a reversal of a type as well, because you expect lovey dovey scenes now that they are together, but instead, she's falling asleep, which adds a bit of undercutting and realism.
The beginning scene seems to remind us that what seems to be the surface isn't the truth. So the secondary leads choosing self respect not only follows their character traits,...
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Kim Yoonmi
August 17, 2014 at 11:54 PM
, but part of the theming and comedy of the series. Though sometimes the I gotcha in the series leaves me groaning a little.
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tapiocapearl
August 18, 2014 at 12:19 AM
It's one thing to reverse expectations, but then it's another to completely do something so unexpected that it makes the viewer wonder when and where the characters got personality transplants. I feel like that was what happened.
I like the point you said about how Se-ah and Yeo-reum chose self-respect and -preservation. That makes a lot of sense and fits with their initial characterizations. The problem is that the transition between the two sides was lost. One episode, Se-ah's a raging lunatic, the next she is back to being Ki-tae's best friend. One episode, Yeo-reum pulls a dick move, the next he and Jang-mi are co-owning a restaurant.
It's fine if they are nice now, but for me, I would've just liked a scene where they realized they did wrong and apologized to the people they wronged. Something as simple as that would've made all this cordiality in this episode that more believable. But because that didn't happen, I'm left to wonder why.
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mona
August 18, 2014 at 1:49 AM
The point about this episode is a cool relationship. And thats what make this drama so appealing, because they skip all the cliches and cheesy lines.
In YeoRum case,Jang Mi has asked him, how to keep it cool, like nothing happened between them, YeoRum answered, actually he is not cool, he just act like one. YeoRum likes JangMi. But, he admit that Gi Tae deserves Jang Mi better.
As Se Ah, I think, her transition happened when Gi Tae force her to leave with him at the end of episode 12. She realized that forcing the relationship will just make her become more pathetic.
one thing I always agree with you guys. since when Hoon Dong is in love with Hyun Hee, that makes him become a puppy???I still remember clearly what he did to JangMi.
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Kim Yoonmi
August 18, 2014 at 6:35 AM
Exactly what I was trying to point out. Thank you. The line where she said she would become pathetic. Good re-enforcing point on YR too.
When did he become a puppy?
He was always a coward (actually stated in the show), but it's clear that his model of women is not that stable. He chose someone like his mother who is far more assertive than Jang Mi ever was. He's kinda an M (Japanese definition of one).
It's just at the time you saw it, you thought it was because he was being a jerk and burning JM, but then over the course of the show, they pulled a few things that made it clear he's really a puppy in disguise.
The first was the reversal. When JM became more assertive, he liked that and was attracted to her more. The second is Hyeon Hee acting all soft and then turning around and acting much like his mother. It's clear on some level what he didn't have with JM was what he wanted--an assertive woman who chased after what she wanted.
So this clearly showed the reason he ran away from JM was because he's a coward and he didn't want to tell her that he never really liked her that much because he hadn't discovered his type was a reflection of his mother, and he's a coward through and through.
^_^ The movements in this show are subtle and small sometimes, which is somewhat a Korean writing style that many Americans, etc dislike, because it seems to oppose the huge cliché and arcing devices (As in it should be one or the other). But lit professors when they talk about Korean lit, seem to treasure and highlight that the most about Korean lit. Also the long separation....
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patinalee
August 18, 2014 at 7:17 AM
Thank you Kim Yoonmi, for sharing your thoughts. That last para was especially elucidating.
28 LOVE HS&SH
August 18, 2014 at 12:01 AM
Thanks for recap. Very sad coz this show is going to finish. Can't get enough of <3 GT& JM. My forever otp ever...
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29 Marthe
August 18, 2014 at 12:27 AM
I'm sooo happy with this show...so cute and adorable and real...it's what you would want and not want to see in a relationship. Kitae and Jang Mi are so good for each. YWJ and HG did justice to their roles. Two more episodes left...I'm so excited for that. I'm hoping there would be a grand proposal scene. *_*) When the show is over I can start watching it again from start to finish....no sleeping...lol *_*)
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30 whilethemusiclasts
August 18, 2014 at 12:48 AM
I'm totally in love with the leads. I couldn't care less about Se-ah and Yeo-reum though. But good god, Ki-tae and Jang-mi own me, through and through.
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31 Aly
August 18, 2014 at 1:35 AM
This episode was SO GOOD. I am just sooooo happy about all these developments. I adore the lead couple!
Next week the drama will be over. I think I might cry!
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32 pigtookie
August 18, 2014 at 2:36 AM
Fist pumps!!! x 100000
We're finally here, and I am so glad that we don't close on the story yet, but get another arc of them dealing with being a "real" couple and meeting a fresh batch of problems.
And ugh, I do feel bad for Omoni. From her perspective, Jang Mi seems to keep deceiving her.
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33 adrian
August 18, 2014 at 4:08 AM
One of the great things od M w/o D is the no one is a evil doer. No truly bad gay is here. Yeu Reum and Se Ha are friends with JM/GT and HD/HH, like each other and I expect to be another couple before the end of the plot.
YR has a solid motive to be friend with GT/JM, his bussiness. Both lend him money and help him when he was out in the street. SA finally realice that she cant do as she pleases with GT. That GT/JM will be couple for good, no matter what she intent.
Even Parents will be helped by GT/JM, before they marry, woes will be arrenged. Chef and exJM boss will be together as well..........
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Adal
August 18, 2014 at 6:56 AM
No one's an evil doer, except for Gi Tae's dad. He has no excuse, none at all. The biggest douche bag in my book at the moment...
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adrian
August 18, 2014 at 4:00 PM
GT Father thinks the old way/Victorian. That a wife is for family and sociaty. To enjoy -sex/life, wouldnt be proper to do it with wife, better to have some other woman.
It's dead grong, but GT Mo allowed to happend, as long he mainteain appearences. In that sence both are guilty. GT Mo if she could, GT should have marry SA and maybe repeated his father conduct in frustration.
To me the inexcusable thing was left a 5 years old girl alone by her parents. That almost caused JM dead.
Belived more good things coming, both families will solve the problemas they face, with JM/GT wedding
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Kim Yoonmi
August 18, 2014 at 7:53 PM
That doesn't have a place in Korean society today by a long, long shot. It's outdated by a long long time. In fact, the Korean government until recently had it so you could get jail time and even a fine on top in some cases for adultery.
And Koreans didn't go through the Victorian era... they went through Joseon, then the Japanese occupation and then the modern era. The way of thinking in Confucian society did allow for concubines, in effect (Which is how you got the middle class), however, hiding mistresses, not taking care of the resulting children, etc was frowned on highly. Also hiding them from your wife is a double no-no.
So on any level or from any era (minus the protection bits that obviously had to happen), he's wayyyy out of line and if he was caught in Joseon, he'd probably be flogged seriously. And somehow, for a fictional character, I think watching him get beaten for his indiscretions and cavalier attitude might just be satisfying to me. I think I would like the slow smile on GT's mom's face as she watched, but pretended to care given his messed up attitude towards her.
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34 harmonyfb
August 18, 2014 at 4:09 AM
I've made no secret of my love for Yeo Reum. And he was super-awesome in this episode (though the 'Wait, WHAT?' expression on his face when Jang Mi tells him that she's seeing Ki Tae just killed me. So much for his brilliant plan to win her back. Awww.) - I loved him giving Ki Tae relationship advice, and I loved his super-awkward "Thanks" outside the restaurant. ::roots for OT3::
But how cute were Jang Mi and Ki Tae in this episode? Trying soooo hard to be laid back, and yet...failing utterly. Also, 'let's keep our dating secret', but making sure all of their friends know - plus, let's publish it in a magazine. Heh. I'm surprised Ki Tae didn't post a billboard.
What I really loved, though, were the scenes where both of them realized that their parents could only serve as examples of what to avoid in marriage, and that they would have to deliberately choose to avoid falling into that trap. Yay, adult choices!!!
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Dani Serodio Gamus
August 18, 2014 at 6:38 AM
I'm another Yeo-reum fan right here! I was a bit disappointed with his moment of selfishness in front of Ki-tae's mom... even though I could understand the motive (some other man is stealing his girl!) I didn't like that the first time he really actively fights for Jang-mi he does it in such a hurtful way, not only to Jang-mi but to Ki-tae and his mom. I've forgiven the character because his actions since have gone back to the cool, easy-going person I like so much and he seems remorseful enough to help the couple away from their stupidity.
My only complaint is that I wish they had left him with a suitable female character so that all the Yeo-reum fans out there can dream of him getting with her in the future and also finding his own happiness. After being such a good sport about Jang-mi and Ki-tae he deserves it! Maybe the show will surprise me with a new waitress or perhaps a plucky delivery girl or SOMETHING in its last week. Oh! Oh! Maybe she could even be a chaebol heiress to a giant food/tv conglomerate and our boy with the easy smile gets himself a rich wifey AND a popular cooking show on TV -- if that face was teaching me how to make 1001 types of pasta, I'd tune in.
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35 fab
August 18, 2014 at 5:15 AM
Oh my the icy confrontations between Mom and Jang Mi will never get old.
I love how our OTP wanted the cool relationship which quickly turned into a cold relationship. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way how to truly go for each other.
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36 Adal
August 18, 2014 at 7:01 AM
Can't Gi Tae's mom just divorce Gi Tae's dad on the grounds of adultery? I don't understand why she's waiting for Gi Tae's dad to divorce her (it's clear that he never will). Not too sure about Korea's laws, but here in the US, she's clearly within her rights to initiate divorce proceedings.
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Kim Yoonmi
August 18, 2014 at 7:13 AM
Adultery used to get jail time, but unfortunately, it's his Dad that can't and won't let go.
international-divorce[.]com/d-korea.htm and Korean law states that the spouses have to mutually agree to the divorce, which is why she's turning her controlling on her husband--where it belongs and not letting him leave the house.
It does state she can do it on adultery grounds, but I think given her standing, it would be better for her to save face by him agreeing to the divorce as well, because adultery needs to be proven, etc. (JM can help with that!) Which means she has to prove he's been sleeping with the woman he's been seeing.
It might also be the best interest of her as well, for financial reasons, since she does not control the funds. A mutual divorce agreement would ensure her some money over forcing it.
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Adal
August 18, 2014 at 7:30 AM
Thanks for clarifying this. As for proof, that should be fairly easy, all she needs to do is hire a Private Investigator, I am sure there are some who specialize in these sort of things. There should be other witnesses than Jang mi who have been aware of her husband's affair over the years.
But isn't the wife entitled to alimony regardless of who initiates the proceedings? It's obvious that he's the breadwinner supporting her over the course of their marriage. Even if he tries to hide his assets, she's at least entitled to some of his pay, I'm thinking.
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Kim Yoonmi
August 18, 2014 at 10:55 AM
The link stated something like that she would have better financial support staying with her husband and ironically stated that the way divorces are set up is so men don't walk out on their wives easily (given K-dramas, that's just funny). As it stands, she is still just a housewife and would need additional support. I also think if he mutually agrees to it, then it's more likely he'd have to give her funds rather than she walks away with nothing, so it's less risk, better face saving, etc for her. It's also in her character not want to publicly fight him, which is part of the reason he chose her as his wife from what he stated. --;;
Either way, I don't think the writer is going to leave us hanging on the conflict of the parents (both pairs) before the end of the show. Or I'd be shocked if they did, especially with how things have been rolling. It would be in keeping with the show to actually have a divorce, since most shows are about keeping together instead. And I'm sure the writer will play it for all the funny they can muster. (Especially last I looked the divorce rate in Korea is actually higher than the US's--so they might play with that too.)
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37 alcoholicbubbletea
August 18, 2014 at 7:07 AM
hyeonhee is still not showing baby bump. which means... jangmi is such a playaaaaa.
she has more actions in the period of about 3 months than i did for the past 3 years.
oh life.
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38 lulu88
August 18, 2014 at 7:21 AM
Loving this show, as you all are.
Did anyone else notice that the closing scene for Ep 14 was the opening teaser for an earlier ep (7 or 8), or at least one that closely resembled that tease? I recall being disappointed when the teased scene didn't occur in the earlier episode. So satisfying how it occurred in the most recent one. Loved it.
Loved how the OTP actually discuss sleeping/not sleeping in an adorable, yet adult, manner. So refreshing.
Weird side rant: During a recent episode, folks were commenting on Jang Mi leaving her purse on a bench when she runs away from Gi Tae. I noticed that as well. Another one of those "Wait! What's with that?" type of scene is how often JM drops her bike but has it close at hand in another scene. With the blogger, she drops the bike by the side of the street and gets in the car, and remarkably, the bike is outside the chicken shop. I
I wonder, upon re-viewing this series if she does that enough to make a drinking game out of it? Hmmm.
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rainbow_angel
August 18, 2014 at 9:25 AM
Yay! I was wondering if anyone catched on that the scene with the feet was from the cold opening in an episode prior. I practically squealed when I recognized it! I'm glad that the writers are making sure to properly tie in their cold openings. Although there is another cold opening that I'm kinda disappointed about. It was the one with Ki Tae's proposal, in the opening it showed that the lady entering wore heels, but when the actual scene happened the lady (which we know to be Se Ah) wore slippers. (Anyhoo, I'm just being nitpicky, although that small bit of incontinuity kinda bothers me.) :P
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lulu88
August 18, 2014 at 10:41 AM
I wondered about the shoes in the proposal scene, too.
Since it was inside a home, who would wear outside shoes, stunning as they were?
Yet, maybe we're going to see some rule breaking in the next two episodes, or that was a product placement for fancy heels.
And, the product eludes me. I've not a clue who the shoe designer was. PPL fail.
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patinalee
August 18, 2014 at 10:51 AM
Se Ah did wear shoes. She would have taken it off at the door and changed into house slippers. I believe that's the Korean custom, as in many other Asian cultures: off with the shoes outside or at the door and into the house bare-footed or in stockinged feet or in this case, in house slippers. Remember the pair of red heels Jang Mi spotted just after the door when she crashed the magazine interview towards the end of this episode? It's not a continuity hiccup. :-)
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lulu88
August 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM
I'll need to rewatch ep 11. I don't think Se Ah wore those same shoes as featured in the opening teaser.
She definitely took them off at the door and wore slippers. In the teaser, the person wears the shoes inside, and along the proposal walkway (is that even a thing?).
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adekmanja
August 19, 2014 at 5:10 PM
@ rainbowangel :
I have been saying this so many times since I get myself sucked into this drama and joined this blog chat :)
so when you mentioned "if anyone catched on that the scene with the feet was from the cold opening in an episode prior. I practically squealed when I recognized it! I’m glad that the writers are making sure to properly tie in their cold openings"... I just find it the reason to re-watch the relevant episode! geeeezzzzz..... I was excited too just that from what I could see from that cold openings is that as if the two of them were wrestling on the bed out of their clothes. But Jang-mi was spotted with striped shirt and Ki-tae tring to unbuckled his belt wearing long trousers whereas in ep 14, towards the end, Ki-tae only wore shorts and Jang-mi wore the white blouse that was left on the back of the sofa with the bra!
I was hoping that could mean why Jang-mi was wearing the striped shirt the same in the cold opening but the one she was caught by KT's mom, yes, she wore striped shirt but at the round-neck collar looks as if there's red stripe.
then about the high heels shoe at the time KT planned to propose...
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adekmanja
August 19, 2014 at 5:00 PM
@ Lulu88 : as to Jang Mi with and then without her bicycle... gah... I noticed that too.
On a few occasions, and among the ones that I could remember...
1. After hitting Hoon-dong when she discovered Hyun-hee fell for Hoon-dong
2. When Ki-tae called, she's from work, stopped by Yeo-rum, and after being hugged by YR and busted by KT's mom, she just arrived at her parent's fried chicken shop
3. After KT sabotaged her picnic date then she was swooped by KT's mom to the wedding dress shop
4. She managed to catch up with the blogger coz the blogger got to stop at the zebra crossing and JM just abandoned her bike there??
but yunno what... becoz the scenes were so cute, I decided to just ignore those oversightedness.... ;)
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39 Kdramajjang
August 18, 2014 at 9:03 AM
I just love this show!!
They really bring the characters so close to home, it's just great and I love the writing. Overall, nothing gets dragged on for whatever reason
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40 cocobeans
August 18, 2014 at 9:44 AM
Lol i love that last bit, that will teach his mother to not just enter her grown son's house so early unannounced. :) I wish she caught them "in flagrante delicte" would have had her clutching her Pearls even more, no mother could stand that! ...well exept maybe mine, she would give some remark to me about "making sure i get the full service" before buying a padlock for the bedroom door, but still...
I think JYM 's parent still love each other , dad can't take of his wedding ring? (it hurts) then sends the insult postcards in the mail?
It's his petty way of saying he misses her.
Notice how comfortable they were snuggling when JYM and KT were staying over? Even though they had not shared a room in ages?
I Think they too need to let go of their "cool relationship" and admit there is still a blazing fire going on there ;)
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Kim Yoonmi
August 18, 2014 at 11:39 AM
But her son explicitly told her he wasn't dating anyone. And he's still self-centered enough to keep his passcode the same (His birthday... looks like he's a Leo or Leo Cusp?), though I think the reason he kept it the same all this time was because he liked JM on some level popping up randomly and entering as she liked, but didn't want to admit that to her. And now it's come to this... maybe he'll change it to JM's birthdate. =P
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41 alcoholicbubbletea
August 18, 2014 at 10:27 AM
What frustrates me this ep is that even after that talk with dad gitae has yet to call mom and apologize to her. As much as i adore him with jangmi i'd hate to have a son like that. His mom cares for him even though he doesnt see it. I hope we get to see him apologize (not just reconcile) to his mom.
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42 Yoori
August 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM
I really, really like YWJ as an actor and GGT as a character. As an actor, I think he's really great at becoming his character. Even in his previous work where he played the second lead (WAML), he was still somehow more interesting than the main lead. Like someone mentioned before, I too wasn't attracted to him but he is so growing on me. It's his eyes, he's got them crazy eyes that can do everything!
I enjoyed this episode but what I'm really looking forward is some cute 'n sexxxy time with our leads as a real couple! Rawr!
I am not ready for this to end, at all! I've been too spoiled with this drama to let it go like that!
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43 Pyromaniac
August 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM
so sad... only two more episodes left... but I have loved the ride so far...
I just hope Jang-mi doesn't lose her feisty streak.. as that was always a highlight..
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44 superlike
August 19, 2014 at 1:06 AM
Ahhhh! so glad to see characters after they actually get together, which in dramas, is usually the last ten minutes of the show. I'm glad that they showed the potential conflicts and imperfect components of dating, whereas usually from dramas after two characters get together all we see his hugging cutesy moments (which believe me I love) but how long do those things really last? I love how we get a little perspective into the strength and development of their relationship, so I feel somewhat more secure that their relationship will last.
Also, I'm a little confused about GT's parents' situation. I don't understand why they are "hanging on" (??) Is this just to save face?
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45 Gidget
August 19, 2014 at 5:55 PM
Gah...
Why show, why?
I've loved you. Really, really loved you. Like, I wanted to watch you again and again forever. But then you go and do THAT for the last two episodes.
It's one thing to create your world and say what you stand for. But it's another to use visual messaging to take pot shots that are designed to insult, provoke and divide. It's called hate speech. It's small minded. It's petty. And it's beneath you, show. Please stop. I want to keep loving you to bits; but you've made it really, really hard to do.
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adekmanja
August 20, 2014 at 5:22 PM
sob sob sob.... :(
happy to see jangmi & kitae happy but so sad that no more waiting like crazy for Fridays!!
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Chandler
August 20, 2014 at 8:46 PM
I'm actually genuinely curious of what you're referring to...was there something offensive about these last two episodes? Like I seriously have no idea what you're referring to here:
"But it’s another to use visual messaging to take pot shots that are designed to insult, provoke and divide. It’s called hate speech. It’s small minded. It’s petty. And it’s beneath you, show."
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46 adekmanja
August 21, 2014 at 6:43 PM
it's FRIDAY ! what's waiting for us? ;)
and its going to end this Saturday.... :(
sob sob sob and its raining - feeling so melancholy....
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ha.art
August 21, 2014 at 11:36 PM
Oh dear, I actually feel relieved that the show is ending this week. It has stirred up my last few weeks and totally crashed my schedule. Instead of doing assignment, I stayed up very late to rewatch and rewatch episode after episode. I have grown really crazy about this drama!!!
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47 harmonyfb
August 22, 2014 at 3:11 AM
::trills:: It's FRIDAY!!! (I'm going to willfully ignore the fact that this episode is the beginning of the end. ::hands over ears:: La, la, la, not listening)
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48 harmonyfb
August 22, 2014 at 8:55 AM
Just finished watching the unsubbed version of 15...while I'm sure I missed a LOT of plot (damn you, language barrier!), I just don't see how this can be wrapped in one more episode.
Seriously, showrunners, how can you? Answer: You can't, there's too much. I vote for at least one more week's worth.
::closes eyes and wishes really hard::
Also, I called the fake-out opening, but it was still satisfying. Heh. Now to wait for the subs so I can see how closely I was able to follow the dialogue while only recognizing one word in 20.
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adekmanja
August 22, 2014 at 3:44 PM
@ harmonyfb : I just finished watching ep15 too unsubbed... drove me nutssss guessing what's it all aboot especially between KT and his mom !!
yeah.... how are they going to wrap up all these in just one more episode??? how could they do this to us...!??
but of all these, I'm gonna miss reading and responding to the commentsss! *lol* ;)
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harmonyfb
August 23, 2014 at 7:05 AM
>I’m gonna miss reading and responding to the commentsss!
I know! I'm just getting to know y'all, and it'll be over? ::stomps foot::
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adekmanja
August 23, 2014 at 3:10 PM
@ harmonyfb : he he!! what other drama & recap are u following now? any suggestion...?
I am just about to start Joseon Gunman... almost finish now and I guess it's not the same as when you start from the very beginning and join the discussion - lol :)
this MND is just different. its finished today... it's Saturday when I replied this message...
but hey! we may "meet" again in other recaps!! ;)
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49 Kar
August 22, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Oh! After a few chapters stretching the drama get to where I wanted to get! While I was in this episode just a little disappointed, and grateful at the same time. Because it was not one of those episodes that make my heart beat, yet was so nice to see. I loved how they overcame their lack of communication! and as writers tried that topic! but I was disappointed with the final scene. I want this to be an "I need romance", I expected a scene like the introduction Episode 6. Not even a kiss occurred! and worse, Mom came to destroy us also the scene of the morning. I am even more angry about that. Anyway, I love this drama! but the couple does not have the chemistry that I would like. Maybe because this is not a drama of "ohh, how nice" if not of laugh at yourself. I think it was something that was known: When Gi-Tae was not the one who picked up the shoe Jang-Mi in the pool. Still, I expected a better bed scene. I hope I'm not being superficial. In fact the scene of the conversation on the sofa was very tender. But I expected more!
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adekmanja
August 22, 2014 at 3:57 PM
@ Kar : did you just did the marathon viewing of this drama in 1-2 days?
I did that to soooooo many other dramas, I rarely, very very very rarely would try to watch any drama when it started from day 1, though I did try one or two when it started, but it fades off very quickly and I can resist the temptation to follow ad wait longing for the next episode, week after week.
however, indeed I wonder why.... I didn't know why and what prompted me to watch this drama and since then I was hooked like crazy and in between Sat and the next Friday, I was searching and surfing for any previews, blogs etc on this drama. Now that I'm typing these down, oh my.... I do sound insane.
I can understand that if you just watch it straight in one go, maybe, just maybe you wouldn't get the "feel" like what so many of us here who dropped our comments and views, the way we were swayed and absorbed into this story.
I don't really care about their acting in bed but more into all around them and how these two developed their thoughts and feelings towards each other.
hmmmmm.... I know I'm going to miss this couple and to me they have great chemistry and I also love to see how Jang-mi interact with Ki-tae's mom. So, not just between the 2 lovebirds...
oh well, I simply love this drama and wonder if I will have this kind of longing and craziness again :)
to all MND lovers, I'm gonna miss you all too!!!
looking forward to a quick recap on ep 15 very very soon - grilfriday or LP, pleeeeeeaseeeee.... ;) xxx
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Kar
August 22, 2014 at 5:06 PM
Well, I started this drama two weeks ago, and yes! I did marathon viewing the first 10 episodes. Then I had to wait for the others, and also subtitles. For me form a delightfully comic couple, I laugh a lot with them, but do not be passionate enough with them. Because I have not seen sufficiently cheesy or sexy scenes. This might not be all bad, and simply are different from other dramas couples, and are more casual. But inevitably this makes for me are not a memorable couple. Although the drama it is memorable! and I like for other reasons and not for the chemistry of the couple or the beautiful scenes. I loved the plot, the comedy, the characters, and especially the editing and music this drama. I practically discovered in this drama that may like it a lot other things besides the main couple. :D
I am also disgusted that will end soon. :(
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