It’s Okay, It’s Love: Episode 6
by gummimochi
Sometimes the hardest things for some are the easiest for others, like disclosing heavily-guarded secrets or formulating words to describe one’s feelings in the moment. Still, there’s more to fear than words when there are both corporal and non-corporal threats running around prepared to attack our hero at any moment. Because a bathroom lock may not be enough to keep all of them out, if at all.
On our ratings table, Joseon Gunman still held the lead with 12.2%, Fated To Love You pulled up with 10.3%, and It’s Okay, It’s Love rounded out the pack with a solid 10.0%.
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EPISODE 6 RECAP
Jae-yeol goes in for a kiss, followed by another. Hae-soo reciprocates, then snaps out of the heated moment. She slaps him, and then breathes slowly to tamp down her belated anxiety symptoms.
He takes a beat before suggesting that they buy new outfits to get out of these wet ones. She refuses, saying they can keep wearing what they have on. “Do they call this bipolar disorder?” Jae-yeol asks, perplexed by her reaction.
While Jae-bum checks in on a mysterious favor he put in before his early release, Sunbae Jo balks at the claims that Jae-bum is a good person when his criminal files state otherwise. When Tae-yong tries to justify Jae-bum’s actions, he’s told to explain the picture of a beaten and bruised Jae-yeol at sixteen, then. Yeah, you can’t really argue with that, but also—should you be sharing legal records so freely, doc?
Sunbae Jo challenges him to think about how bad the situation must have been if their mother had to call the police. Furthermore, these records note that Jae-bum was the one who killed their stepfather and trying to blame it on his brother.
People like Jae-bum don’t feel guilty towards their wrongdoings like the rest of society, so the best treatment in those cases is for them to remain behind bars. Tae-yong acknowledges that Jae-bum is still throwing murderous threats against Jae-yeol, but neither can he give up on the family who believes in Jae-bum.
Jae-yeol buys new threads for himself and Hae-soo, who promises to pay him back. “I don’t take money from a woman I’ve kissed,” Jae-yeol replies. She’s particularly sensitive about calling it a kiss at all when it was one-sided.
He doesn’t let her off the hook for that, telling her outright that he can understand if this is a reaction to her anxiety issues. Anyone would have been flustered if someone suddenly kissed them, she argues. And he kissed her twice.
“You didn’t hate it the second time. Like me,” Jae-yeol counters. He isn’t interested in her thoughts about it, but how she felt about their kiss. “I hated it. I’ll say it again, but I hate you,” she firmly answers. “Someone who flirts with just anyone…”
“Not anyone, but someone I feel something for,” he interrupts. “Not just because, but with sincerity in that moment. I kissed you because I like you, not because I was just flirting.”
Hae-soo betrays a small smile, but then barks at him to come clean—they were both in a good mood and in the middle of nature. He was acting on impulse, wasn’t he? Jae-yeol doesn’t deny it.
He doesn’t see what’s so absurd about it either—does she like men who strategize and calculate those sorts of things? When she says they should put an end to this argument, he catches her off-guard again. “Let’s date,” he says. “Should I give you time to think about it?”
She declines, so he drops the subject too. And then tells her to sit up front when she tries to climb in the backseat. She warns him not to make a pass at her like he did in the water, but he assures her that it won’t happen again.
Despite Soo-kwang’s protests that he won’t do So-nyeo’s bidding anymore, he trails behind her anyway, though he emphasizes that he isn’t heading to her place because he at all likes her. I… still don’t get what the deal is between these two. Is Soo-kwang’s interest purely friendly oppa to dongsaeng or something more? But then, Soo-kwang—she’s a minor.
Things are still prickly between Jae-yeol and Hae-soo at home that evening. Sunbae Jo asks if they fought again, and whereas Jae-yeol dismisses the question, Hae-soo freely explains that Jae-yeol kissed her and was slapped for it today.
As per usual, Jae-yeol tells it like it is and confirms that it happened, acknowledging that she was fine in that moment, though she isn’t now. She calls him an embodiment of impulse, which prompts him to ask if she didn’t feel what he did.
“You really didn’t feel it?” he repeats. But Hae-soo shakes her head, saying somewhat unconvincingly that her answer will always be no. Jae-yeol walks out of this argument first, leaving her fuming in his wake.
Sunbae Jo knows that something’s up, so he loudly bangs on Hye-soo’s door so that they can talk. When Jae-yeol comes out of his room to complain about the noise, Sunbae Jo takes Hae-soo’s side and yells at him.
Hae-soo invites him inside, and Sunbae Jo gets right to the point: “You felt something with Jae-yeol, didn’t you?”
He doesn’t let Hae-soo rely on her defense mechanisms and tells her to face him. When she does, his voice softens to ask what she wants to protect by making the one person who has actual feelings for her feel like a sexual harasser. Her sexual phobia that she’s tried her whole life to get rid of?
He’s asking as her doctor and supervisor—did Hae-soo think of her mom when she kissed Jae-yeol? He demands an answer, and Hae-soo answers, “No, I didn’t.”
Sunbae Jo remarks that it’s the first time ever since she tried kissing at all with her ex-boyfriend. He continues: “How did you feel? Did you hate it or not?”
Hae-soo bites her lip and answers vaguely: “I didn’t not like it.” Sunbae Jo wants a direct answer, and Hae-soo looks emotional as she answers honestly: “I liked it.” But Hae-soo says she doesn’t understand these feelings and why she has them for a player like Jae-yeol. Sunbae Jo leaves her to sort out her feelings.
Soo-kwang admits that he nearly cried while listening to Hae-soo’s confession through the door. He envies Hae-soo for the small progressive steps she’s made, and longs to overcome his condition too one day. How great would it be if he didn’t have an episode while being physically intimate with a girl?
While Jae-yeol thinks of Hae-soo that night, her alarm to light the candle goes off. She comes out and discover that he’s already there, the candle lit. He says the alarm was a nuisance, but aw, that’s nice of you.
Sunbae Jo explains the depth of Hae-soo’s sexual phobia to Jae-yeol the next morning. Her prickliness is a defense mechanism, not because she doesn’t like him. The reason why he’s telling Jae-yeol all this is because Jae-yeol should quit now if he isn’t sincere about Hae-soo.
Speaking of whom, Hae-soo catches the tail-end of that conversation, and snatches the glass of water out of Jae-yeol’s hand. She plays it cool, admitting that she did feel something yesterday, but that was a fleeting moment. He can understand that ’cause he’s a player, right?
He surprises her though by saying that if she has any inkling to continue things with him, she can either knock on his door or call his phone and let it ring three times. If she doesn’t like him, she can just do nothing. He takes that glass back for another sip before returning it to her. How cheeky.
Apparently Sunbae Jo hasn’t gone into the house yet because he shouts to Hae-soo that her temper’s a bigger issue than her anxiety. How ironic of her to tell her patients to find their will when she has to do the same for her issues.
Those words still stick with Hae-soo while she and her team deliberate on whether it’s safe to discharge the patient with the now re-attached arm. She says there isn’t much they can do if the patient has no will or volition. After Doctor Lee dismisses the others, she notes that man is an orphan and his story is similar to Hae-soo’s father.
She then asks if Hae-soo is going to attend her divorce anniversary party, because yeah, that exists. It’s great how Hae-soo’s like, “Can’t you guys celebrate that on your own?”
Jae-yeol is all for seeing his hyung if it’s what will make his mother happy. He tells Mama Ok-ja that money is no object when it comes to throwing Jae-bum a lavish party (hopefully sans forks and sharp objects this time), then gets called away to a meeting.
Sunbae Jo calls Tae-yong to bring Jae-bum into his office, so that they can meet in person and decide whether he should be reunited with his family or not.
Jae-yeol and Kang-woo discuss each other’s love lives in the car. Kang-woo suggests that Jae-yeol pursue someone else than that pretty noona who’s playing hard-to-get with him. But Jae-yeol says that Hae-soo has got a lot of charm about her, and Kang-woo finishes, “Like that feeling like she’s taken over your soul?”
Kang-woo says he plans to concentrate on his writing, but still goes to see his crush Hyun-joo by her window. Jae-yeol asks if he isn’t going to treat that crooked finger of his, but Kang-woo insists that it’s fine.
All of a sudden, a group of cars come charging from the opposite direction, forcing Jae-yeol to swerve past to avoid them. Apparently this is a common occurrence, and Jae-yeol tells Kang-woo not to ride his bike on this road lest he get into an accident.
They pull up to Kang-woo’s place, a shabby-looking countryside abode. One that almost looks familiar, I’d say. Jae-yeol looks curiously at it, too.
They bid each other good luck and goodbye, but then they both hear screams in the distance. It’s Kang-woo’s father, beating his wife outside and dragging her by the hair along the road. Kang-soo gets kicked away when he tries to intervene.
That’s when Jae-yeol rushes over and starts pelting Kang-woo’s abusive father that quickly turns into a brawl. Jae-yeol unknowingly drops his phone in the grass. Seeing the woman get beaten triggers a brief flashback to when teenage Jae-bum was being kicked by their stepfather and young Jae-yeol had grabbed the knife on the table.
He snaps back to reality (er, his visual reality) just in time to see Kang-woo pick up a rock as a weapon. Jae-yeol hollers at his rage-filled face and shakes him vigorously. “Pull yourself together, Han Kang-woo!”
Jae-yeol punches Kang-woo and tells him to take his mother and run. Kang-woo drops the rock in his hand and leads his mother away, sobbing. Jae-yeol stays behind with the abusive father; he gets kicked down at first, triggering another memory: Mama Ok-ja using her body as a shield against his stepfather’s blows.
As that fades away, Jae-yeol gains the upper hand in the fight, punching and kicking the man down on the ground. Unbeknownst to him, this entire scuffle is recorded by a nearby. Oh man, I hope we get to see that footage.
When Hae-soo tells her housemates to call Jae-yeol home for dinner, they teasingly tell her to call him instead and let the phone ring three times. Ha. Although Hae-soo initially laughs at how Soo-kwang has adopted Jae-yeol’s fashion, she says she likes him far better than that player.
Soo-kwang knows that Hae-soo’s exaggerating since she belongs to Jae-yeol, words she finds insulting. Hae-soo protests that she’s worked so hard to preserve her purity to just give it away to a guy like Jae-yeol, and Sunbae Jo calls her out on that—she can take that virtuous purity into the afterlife for all he cares.
A battered-looking Jae-yeol deals with a pair of confused officers at the police station, arguing with conviction that the address isn’t an abandoned building but is the home with an abusive father.
So when Jae-yeol comes home late that night, Hae-soo spots his disheveled and bruised appearance. She bangs on his door until he finally opens it, and he says that their signal was for three knocks. “What does seven or eight knocks mean?”
Hae-soo fetches the first-aid kit and finds Jae-yeol in his bathroom. She takes a look around before sitting him down. He insists that he’s fine, but she says he shouldn’t have been caught looking injured by a doctor. As she treats his wounds, she asks what happened, and Jae-yeol says he couldn’t stand by while the kid he knows, Kang-woo, was being beaten by his father.
She asks why he got himself involved in someone else’s family matters. He replies that’s what other people said when his stepfather beat his family. No one ever got involved, and in the end, the whole world became witness to his family’s ruckus.
He tells her that this is the first time he’s ever had a girl in his bathroom and isn’t used to sharing his past like this. But it feels comfortable and there’s nothing to hide.
Hae-soo asks after the scar on Jae-yeol’s shoulder, but he shares something else instead: “After you saw me sleeping in the bathroom, the feelings I felt for you in the water were serious, even though they may have seemed impulsive.”
As she checks the cuts on his face, he takes her hand with his. A long, charged silence passes between them, and then Hae-soo pulls out of his grip. Then Jae-yeol pulls back the shower curtains to reveal his sleeping quarters: his bathtub.
Hae-soo silently takes everything in, then bids him goodnight. But Jae-yeol elaborates on the pair of camel paintings: “Nomadic people in the desert tie up their camels to trees at night like this. But as you can see they untie them in the morning. But the camels don’t run away, because they remember being tied up to the tree in the night… just like how we remember the pains from our own pasts. That means the pain and trauma from our pasts… are what keeps us pulled down. I have my bathroom… and you have your anxiety.”
What an incredibly vulnerable moment for Jae-yeol to share with anyone, let alone Hae-soo. He climbs into his bathtub after Hae-soo leaves and draws his knees to himself before laying down.
Just outside the bathroom, Hae-soo takes a minute to let everything sink in and lays down to sleep in her own bed, thinking of Jae-yeol.
It’s the day of the divorce anniversary party, which Sunbae Jo explains gives him a reason to see his ex-wife, who doesn’t have any friends. Jae-yeol unexpectedly hits a sore spot when he asks Soo-kwang about So-nyeo. He does, however, get Soo-kwang to smile again when he compliments him on his new look. Ha.
Aw, their divorce anniversary picnic actually looks pretty fun, that is until Doctor Lee has to fork over money for losing at a game. She storms off early, upset, with Sunbae Jo not far behind. In an attempt to lighten the mood, Jae-yeol offers to take Hae-soo’s disabled father for a walk.
Hae-soo wonders why her family is speaking to Jae-yeol in banmal, to which she’s told that he asked them too. She worries that Mom’s drinking too much, but Mom stubbornly refuses.
When Sunbae Jo catches up to his ex-wife, she asks if he really hates the idea of meeting up alone that he’d go ahead and invite the whole neighborhood. He asks if she’s upset that Hae-soo’s mother joined them and says that Hae-soo’s father is always cooped up at the restaurant.
He misses the point entirely that Doctor Lee simply wants a separate day and time to spend with him, though he asks haltingly if they’ve got anything to say to one another. She turns on her heel when he asks her what the problem is, and mutters half to herself: “I’ve still got residual feelings for you, that’s what.”
While Jae-yeol is a sweetheart to Hae-soo’s family, Mom scooches over to ask Hae-soo if she really doesn’t have any feelings for Jae-yeol. This isn’t a topic Hae-soo wants to talk about, her irritation exacerbated by seeing her mother’s tipsy state.
So when Hae-soo raises her voice and stalks off, Mom yells in her drunken state about how her daughter’s always annoyed with her when she’s lived a hard-knock life herself taking care of her husband. Hae-soo’s unni interrupts their mother’s rant with the disclosure that they both know of Mom’s affair with Ajusshi Kim.
At home, Hae-soo asks if Jae-yeol enjoyed their family spectacle today. He says that’s nothing—seeing a big, happy family is what annoys him. He once dated a nice girl from a wealthy family, but he later found her boring because she was always so happy and optimistic. A person needs to experience the bitter and sweet points of life to grow as a person and make a relationship interesting, he notes.
As they drink together, Hae-soo confesses that she’d probably have feelings for him if he weren’t a player. He’s got plenty to offer with a great sense of humor, capable, and not bad to look at either. “And there’s something about you,” she adds.
He’s too risky of a gamble to be boyfriend material at her age, to which Jae-yeol counters, “Try saying that after you date me. You’ll be surprised by how enigmatic I am if you date me.”
Hae-soo spits up her beer at that, and Jae-yeol leaves her with some music he’s been listening to recently. It’s cute how she grooves to the beat, imitating his dance moves.
While Hae-soo administers the sodium amytal aka truth serum to the patient with an imaginary baby, we see Jae-bum meeting up with someone to retrieve an unknown object. He tells Tae-yong to head off without him and asks where Jae-yeol is. Oh no.
Hae-soo starts the drug-induced therapy with her patient, who discloses that her husband was passed out drunk in the bedroom while their baby was crying in pain. She blames her husband for not knowing that their child was dying, and herself for being an awful mother.
We see Sunbae Jo break into the truth serum stash for his session with Jae-bum, who’s eager to get his hands on it. I honestly can’t believe Sunbae Jo would even place a syringe within arm’s reach of a man who stabbed his own brother, but he makes a quick save when he nearly slips up.
But then he makes the mistake of leaving Jae-bum alone while he goes out to grab coffee for him. I… I… I have no words. Jae-bum runs past him, repeating Jae-yeol’s location over and over.
As the psychiatrists debrief about how their patient and her husband will move on, Hae-soo says she’s sure that their love will help them overcome this tragedy. She smiles, reminded of how those words align with Jae-yeol’s comments of how love gives people strength to prevail over misfortune.
Doctor Lee surprises Hae-soo by asking her to dinner, only for the latter to decline because she might have plans (with Jae-yeol, hopefully). Doctor Lee contemplates whether to call Sunbae Jo or not, but decides against it.
After Jae-yeol wraps up his radio show, he notices the missed call from Hae-soo. He wonders if it rang twice or three times. Hae-soo calls again moments later, though, and he waits. One… Two… Three.
And then Hae-soo hangs up on the other end. He receives a text from Hae-soo confirming that she let it ring three times and that she’s on her way home right now. Jae-yeol can barely contain his elated reaction, then rushes out to meet her.
Noting the heavy traffic, Jae-yeol hurriedly climbs into a cab just as Jae-bum pulls up and follows behind in his own taxi.
Meanwhile, Hae-soo waits for him at the bus stop in their neighborhood. Jae-yeol gets off and waves at her from across the street to try and get her attention, to no avail. But then Jae-bum attacks him from behind, catches him, and sticks him in the neck with the syringe. Aaacccckkkk.
As Jae-yeol’s eyes roll backwards, Hae-soo looks around just as a car passes…
COMMENTS
On top of the world in one minute, and his entire world spinning in the next. Once I saw Jae-bum be released from prison, I knew that Jae-yeol wouldn’t stand a chance in surviving a single day before being attacked by his volatile brother, whose fixation over the truth serum was often frightening because I had no doubt that he’d go to any lengths to get his hands on some.
All thanks to Sunbae Jo of course, who inception’d the idea into his client’s head. And while this show will likely never receive a gold star in professional competency like so many of its fellow medical drama predecessors, I’d at least hoped that Okay would remain competent enough so that I could maybe understand the screw-ups. But what we saw in this hour was an act of stupidity by leaving the convicted felon alone in an office surrounded by sharp objects and possibly the very thing he desired within arm’s reach. So I understood that someone had to slip up in order for Jae-bum to drive the dramatic conflict forward, but I couldn’t divorce that need with Sunbae Jo’s incompetent blunder that endangers someone else’s life. Even if I could understand that Sunbae Jo would want to administer the drug on Jae-bum to find out the true culprit in the stepfather’s death, there are so many other actions surrounding his decision that negates that opinion. Then again he’s also Hae-soo’s first-love-housemate-doctor-supervisor, because that relationship isn’t complicated at it is.
At this point, I can’t trust either Jae-yeol or Jae-bum’s memories on that fateful night their stepfather died, because we’re being given morsels of information to deliberately keep us in the dark. So while I’m curiously intrigued by what Jae-yeol might say due to the drug’s effects (that is, under the assumption that Jae-bum had successfully managed to run off with a truth serum-filled syringe. I’m cautious only because we never explicitly saw it happen), I also feel that it’ll be too early for us to know the truth just yet.
In that vein, I’m now more concerned about Jae-yeol, because now Kang-woo isn’t the only person he can imagine in his head. I’m talking about Kang-woo’s parents and the abusive father in particular. What’s so frightening is that we saw Jae-yeol engage in a fight with the man, but that camera suggests that all is not what it seems. It opens the possibility that Jae-yeol inflicts self-harm, which would be Fight Club-esque, and that CCTV footage is the only objective evidence of that event. It makes me uneasy over what else his brain can do now, because we saw that he imagined the face of Kang-woo’s crush on another woman, and it very well could be that these new people are also figments of his imagination.
Moving from his mind to his heart, however, I really did enjoy Jae-yeol’s moment of vulnerability and how he unveiled his most secret place to Hae-soo. His blunt frankness and his ability to act on his impulses when it comes to his feelings is a nice foil for Hae-soo, who ruminates over everything before making her first step. He challenges her to stop thinking and speak her emotions out loud and perhaps understands better than anyone around her how the past can continue to plague the present. Because she has her anxiety, and he has his bathtub. But maybe they won’t need to protect those things for much longer ’cause they’ll be busy protecting each other.
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1 bathtub!
August 8, 2014 at 10:22 AM
This drama always ends by giving me the chills. I have no idea how I will survive this week.... Oh the best drama suspense yet =-O
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dukseonnoona
August 9, 2014 at 1:03 AM
let's just comfort ourselves with the fact that JJY is the main lead here, so he won't die at least until may ep 15. haha :D
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dukseonnoona
August 9, 2014 at 1:05 AM
*until maybe ep 15.
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bathtub!
August 11, 2014 at 9:57 AM
Haha so true.... I'm relying on jjy now! ;-)
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2 bath tub!
August 8, 2014 at 10:25 AM
Best drama ever.... I have no idea how I will survive the rest of this week... Oh the chills in the suspense.... Best drama ever!!!! Hope it doesn't go downhill in later episodes.... Careful jaeyulah!!!
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3 Yoyo
August 8, 2014 at 10:27 AM
wait I'm confused. Didnt he drop his phone during the fight. How did haesoo call him then??
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Technokeats
August 8, 2014 at 10:37 AM
그렇게!
This show blindsides from so many different directions... It's like "Uhh, what just happened???" :-P
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 10:55 AM
Well, he could just have picked it up afterwards.
Dropping the phone is something that could have been used as a narrative device, or it might just have been to show that in physical fights like that you might end up dropping things.
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seven
August 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM
Not sure if what he dropped was actually his phone. It was blue, while his phone is silver. Also, looking at this screencap I found, the shape seems off as well ( http://media.tumblr.com/aabcd40f09b0ec64a2bbf537a5786405/tumblr_inline_n9yx9zazvl1qz502k.png )
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nokcha
August 8, 2014 at 2:34 PM
If it is a phone, I wonder if it is an old one from his past and he carries it around.
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jinni
August 8, 2014 at 4:36 PM
Its his usb drive he always carries D:
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Pat Munzer
August 9, 2014 at 12:19 AM
It sort of looks like a switch blade
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lemon84
August 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM
I re-watch this drama.. and I think the thing that jae yul drop sumting in blue case not his phones.. if u watch ep 1.. at the club jae yul take sumting looks like candy from that blue case..
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Marj
August 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM
Could it be his medicine?
Or maybe not. I remember he said he didn't do anything about his sickness.
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4 salmonfish86
August 8, 2014 at 10:28 AM
waiting for the next ep!! really love this drama so much, great storyline and acting from Jo in sung and gong hyo jin *.*
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5 Technokeats
August 8, 2014 at 10:33 AM
As wacky as it is, I'm beginning to love this show! It has suspense and twists and turns.
Having said that, would I fall for someone who sleeps in a bathtub? Hm...
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iatetoomuch
August 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM
Jo In Sung can sleep in the dog house and I'd still take him
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DeeCee
August 8, 2014 at 3:16 PM
He could sleep in a mud pit, and I'd get in it with him!
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KDaddict
August 8, 2014 at 6:26 PM
True, but the other night he slept in a public toilet! That's where I'd draw the line. ;)
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Crystal
August 8, 2014 at 8:16 PM
Or an outhouse for that matter.
Crystal
August 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM
Jo In Sub's gaze will make you want to follow him anywhere, but I couldn't follow him to the public bathroom.
Crystal
August 8, 2014 at 8:48 PM
***edit - Jo In Sung***
adekmanja
August 9, 2014 at 2:33 PM
ha ha ha!!! :)
u all yr comments made me :)
6 ZappyR
August 8, 2014 at 10:34 AM
The only thing that's more gorgeous than this drama's cinematography is Jo In-Sung =)
I find the drama kind of slow, but the chemistry between GHJ and JIS more than makes up for it. That scene where they just look at each other in silence ... I can practically feel the sizzling tension between them. Plus, with the roller coaster ride i'm on in FTLY, i welcome the relaxed pace of this drama.
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Pollywood
August 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM
especially in that bathroom scene!
H.O.T!
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damianna
August 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM
That hand-holding scene. No wonder The Beatles had a song that fixated on holding hands cause it's so swoon-worthy when done right.
Gong hyo jin is like a chemistry generator or something. I love seeing her with every male lead she's with.
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AJ
August 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM
What's making me love this show more every episode is that the chemistry is not just sexual -- you can really see how and why these two people will fall in love, not just fall into bed (not that I'm not looking forward to that). It's as much what they say as how they say it.
What's making me fast forward is the teen girl with the attitude and sense of entitlement -- couldn't they have found a more interesting partner for Kwang Soo -- maybe a single mother with something other than psychological problems?
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM
Yeah... the teen girl gets on my nerves as well, particularly her self-entitlement. Teenagers can be all kinds of things, but to me that seems more like an exaggerated k-drama character than a reflection of real-life teenager. People – bratty teens included – don't just walk into houses, go through cupboards and take food from the fridge (except thieves). The only times I have seen that... is in kdramas.
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KDaddict
August 8, 2014 at 6:31 PM
And when she offers to make SK ramen, she just keeps on walking ahead of him, w a smug expression on her face, fully expects him to follow. I don't know what she has to be so smug about. It's Not like she is such a great catch or sth.
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 4:35 PM
i like the single mother idea, that's definitely better... the teen girl's just so so wrong :(
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7 rez
August 8, 2014 at 10:51 AM
I love how the show goes oo.
I just hate Sunbae Jo because of the amytal treayment. From what I've learned, when a psychotic patient said he is not crazy, it means the opposite. He is psycho!!!
Oh man... I cant imagine about the truth next week and how hae soo's reaction about another disappointment. Even thats not jae yeol fault...
Thanks gummi.... For wonderful recap..
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Kim Yoonmi
August 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM
Just noting that psychotic and being a psychopath are not the same thing and you're confusing the two.
Antisocial has a set of parameters and he sadly, even if they are trying for that, fails them. For him to be a psychopath, he fails it because his inner world is too filled with concerns for other people and *caring*. He's not even saying he disreguards other human beings and their feelings. He cares too much. He cared what that other prisoner thought and said. He cares about his brother and the impact. He doesn't externalize well enough for him to pass.
People who are psychotic have a loss with reality and this does not have anything to do with psychopathy. It's a separate diagnosis.
I know I shouldn't be preaching science on a show that gets it wrong, but maybe because it gets it so frickin' wrong that I want to double the efforts to correct it.
One can be psychopathic, but it's not the same as psychotic.
But yeah, this show about lost me on this episode. I'll give it a chance net week, but the science is so far off base it's effecting the social aspects of the show. It's making my affect for the show slow down.
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8 alua
August 8, 2014 at 10:51 AM
<an act of stupidity by leaving the convicted felon alone in an office surrounded by sharp objects and possibly the very thing he desired within arm’s reach
Agreed, that was just plain stupid, esp. because Sunbae had realised at that point that the guy is NOT harmless at all (unlike what Jae-yeol's idiotic childhood friend seems to want to believe). I think it would have been possible to come up with a better way of Jae-bum getting hold of the truth serum, even just beating Sunbae up and grabbing it from his hand right away would have been more credible.
Then again, I think the whole truth serum thing is pretty ridiculous.
Other than that, I am loving this drama. I want to move into that house! Love how they hang out and take care of each other. Loved how sunbae talked to Hae-soo and got her to admit that she liked the kiss. Really felt for Soo-kwang expressing his hope that one day he'll be able to be in a relationship, kiss and have sex without getting a seizure – he too revealed a pretty vulnerable side of himself there. I just wish his current crush wasn't on a minor, but I'm going to trust that maybe she'll just give him the confidence by accepting him as he is, without them getting into a relationship but Soo-kwang being able to have a relationship with someone else in the future.
Jae-yeol revealing his inner sanctum... very moving, because he was showing his most vulnerable side to Hae-soo. I'm also kind of digging that this probably means we'll get plenty of scenes in the bathroom (and bathroom tub) in the future... which is totally random but the sort of weird thing that can really make a drama. Note how he curled up in the bathtube – a sort of fetal position. Very telling as well.
Jae-yeol imagining even more people... wow, that was pretty hard-hitting. He's in a serious state and there's no denying it. I can't wait for this to be revealed, if not to everyone, at least to Hae-soo.
Hae-soo's mom: uuuuughhhhhhhhh.
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Adal
August 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM
I actually feel bad for Hae Soo's mom. To be married to an invalid for so many years and to be the sole provider for her family must have been really, really hard and difficult. For a healthy woman still in her prime and confident in her sexuality, the one outlet she chose was to engage in an affair. Marriages are tough enough when both partners are healthy adults not to talk of being married to someone unable to meet one's physical, emotional and psychological needs.
I feel Hae Soo is not giving her mom enough credit for sticking it through, nor is she seeing her mom as a person with her own needs; dreams, wants and desires. Although, the truth is we seldom see our parents as people with their own faults and foibles until we are much older (adult). Age wise Hae Soo should regard her mom with adult eyes but Hae Soo is emotionally stunted, still views her mom with the eyes of a child and is reacting to her based on that. A sad situation, really. I hope Hae Soo does more maturing during the course of the show and can view her mother with kinder, more sympathetic eyes.
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 12:38 PM
I do have issues with her affair, but I can also sympathise to an extent.
Where she annoys me more is when she's pushy with Hae-soo – like she wants to bully Hae-soo into a sexual relationship. It's just none of her business at all.
Hae-soo obviously has some serious issues as well, though, again, if she does not wish to have a relationship with a family member that is having an affair (for whatever reason), I can understand that as well. I do wonder whether there's not more to as well – e.g. who the mother is having an affair with might be one of the reasons why Hae-soo is reacting so strongly (to the point of having developed a phobia). We'll see.
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Adal
August 8, 2014 at 1:34 PM
@alua You've raised good points, but I see it differently. I don't see it as her trying to bully Hae Soo into a sexual relationship, merely as a mother concerned about her daughter's single state in a culture that takes pairing off and partnering very seriously. I speak from experience, in my culture similar things happen all the time. I have an unmarried sister who's almost 40 and I can't count how many times, a relative, (not just my mom, even cousins, aunts and uncles) have had similar conversations with her asking why she's not married or doesn't have a partner. In my sister's case she's single by circumstance, not by choice, but the pressure she faces is immense. I have seen similar things happen to other family members in similar circumstances. I take it as their way of expressing love, though it can be a tad embarrassing.
@Anon, it's always easy to judge a person until we've walked in their shoes, and while I don't condone adultery in the least, there are extenuating circumstances in Hae Soo's mother's case, that is deserving of pity.
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM
Yeah, I'm aware of the cultural factor here. I just feel that their relationship is so volatile that I'm surprised the mother keeps pushing this issue – it just seems really insensitive and like a crossing a line in a way that can only have disastrous results.
Also, she's not actually pushing marriage, but her badgering is about physical, sexual relationships (which is not the sort of thing most people want to talk about with their parents anyhow). I find that quite weird – like almost as if she knows that her daughter has a trauma that stems from her affair and feels that if Hae-soo were in a (sexual) relationship, things would be magically resolved and the mom resolved of her guilt.
dohplay
August 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM
I'm annoyed too. It's also the fact that she acts like her marriage with her husband is the representation of the truest love. It's a tad hypocritical and I can see how Hae Soo can't stand seeing that hypocrisy shoved in her face whenever her mom acts all lovey dovey with a husband she is cheating on. Or maybe I just hate her because she was that annoying aunt in Master's Sun.
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 3:00 PM
She could also divorce and keep caring for her husband and have a relationship with someone else then.
That may be a pure technicality though, one that wouldn't really change the scenario other than for people to be able to say "okay, technically she's not cheating".
Another question I have is whether the other person in the affair... is married? Or whether there's any history with this person that would make the cheating even more problematic for Hae-soo (e.g. someone who did wrong to her father or that made a move on her or something).
Anon
August 8, 2014 at 12:48 PM
That's where I'd have to disagree. Affairs/cheating, that's something I could never forgive. Marriage is about commitment, about trying hard enough to make up for the differences. Obviously the mother wasn't strong enough to handle it and that's understandable. If that was where the story stopped I'd feel sorry for her of course. Having to have two roles in the family. Having to lead it by herself.
But she turned around and cheated. Lied and betrayed to the very family she worked so hard to keep together.
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yumii
August 9, 2014 at 8:56 AM
I can be puritanical about my personal choices because of the variety of options I have, but relatively lenient about characters involved in love affairs in film and literature.
I have no idea about what triggered the infidelity in this story, but marriages are sometimes broken emotionally and the parties (especially women) might not have a legal option to end it due to a variety of oppressive forces. In those cases I appreciate watching those characters eking out a little joy while in hell.
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Marina
August 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM
I agree that Hae Soo's mom is a sympathetic, normal character. People on this blog know how I feel about moral compas, and that's not the issue here. Nothing wrong with a person with severely disabled spouse to have an outlet for her emotions. Or she, the mom, would have been the one with bolted up emotional problems. And she has to work and take care of her family.
Speaking of parents and their placement in modern psychological therapy. Aside from Jae-yeol mother - I have no patience for mothers who let their children and themselves be abused for years by a father or a boyfriend - there is always way out, don't have to take it, so I don't feel sorry for her. Anyway, I'd like you to know about, "It's all your parents fault," mentality in some treatments. The counselors, basically, insert parents as potential evil enemies in patient's head. They do it using hypnosis and other means. It's a fashionable trend in modern psychology - nothing you can do, nothing is your fault, blame it all on parents. That's why so many kids falsely accuse parents of wrongdoing (it has been documented in many cases) when in treatment. Even parents in this show (remeber, the boy who draws pictures of sex organs?) readily admit guilt where there is none should be found. The mother of the boy says, "It's all my fault he is acting like that, because I was making out with my boyfriend and my poor son saw us." Did you notice how none of the doctors treating her son disputes her statement? The writer got this blame-the-parent guilt game right. Unfortunately.
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 4:44 PM
The situation with Hae Soo's mom is another is a complex problem. You're right, to see beyond her mom's fault is something she has to do, for HS to forgive her mom, and eventually overcome her own anxiety...
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MostlyAmused
August 9, 2014 at 11:11 AM
Hae Soo's mom raised two daughters in a difficult situation. It is normal for a daughter to be offended by a parent's infidelity, but at some point a healthy adult daughter will also come to appreciate what her mom has provided, especially one who was in practicality a single parent.
No parent does everything right. Sometimes there is no right path and we just do what we can - martyrdom and extreme self-sacrifice of a parent can also have ill effects on kids.
It looks as if the mom was attentive and caring to Hae Soo's dad through many years of dependence, and continues to be. She seems to care about her daughters as well. I hope the characters come to a better understanding of each other as individuals beyond their "roles" in each other's lives.
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9 Allthetime
August 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM
I actually think Jae Bum got the sodium amytal from his friend he met when with Tae Yong, instead of from Sunbae Jo. (He put the syringe in his pocket before he left Jae Bum.)
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM
More likely he got a knife (to stab Jae-yeol with).
Sodium amytal seems to be banned in most countries now, if it is still in use in Korea, I would imagine that it's not that easy to get hold off unless you are a doctor. Plus, why would he have visited the doctor at all if he already had it? Syringes you can get in any pharmacy.
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bernie
August 8, 2014 at 10:04 PM
so true. sodium amytal is very unreliable.. esp as people can be coerced into having false memories of an event... hm. i wibder if Jaebun knows that, and is going to give Jaeyeol a false memory of the night their stepdad died so that JB will "remember" being guilty in a future trial or something. lol or maybe that's too convoluted idk haha
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lildreamer 13
August 8, 2014 at 11:28 AM
I saw the same thing sunbae jo took the Amy talk with him in his coat pocket. So either he got it from the friend he met, or he got into the locked cabinet.
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Ahriah
August 8, 2014 at 7:49 PM
I think what Jae Bum got from his friend was a syringe. He faked Sunbae Jo out by taking out the fake syringe - SJ, thinking it was the real one, put it in his pocket. He left to get the coffee, thinking it was safe, since he had the amytal. That's when JB took the real amytal syringe and ran off.
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10 whatsthescenario
August 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM
1. Wow. What a great kiss!!!!!! Beautiful scenery, passionate feeling, great scene.
2. Hos is a prisoner getting furlough from prison. How is he allowed to roam free without even as much as an ankle bracelet to track his every move. How is his family, that he has tried to kill before, not warned about his "day trip"
3. How irresponsible is this doctor to leave a room, when a prisoner is sitting there unguarded with a needle and Amytal at arms reach???? How stupid is that!
4. I'm loving this drama anyway, despite the wacky science.
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 4:57 PM
Yes, i am also baffled by the flaws in the story. I mean, most of the events in the story are carefully laid out, especially the relationship progress between JY and HS, even the story between sunbae Jo and his ex-wife and JY and Soo kwang's developing friendship... i admire sunbae Jo's relationship with HS, even. But what happened to the way he's dealing with Jaebum? There should have been another way for the volatile Jae bum to find JY without making Sunbae Jo an incompetent doctor, and you're absolutely right, how can Jaebum be allowed to roam freely? eeesh. that's frustrating, really.
Still, i absolutely adore the kiss scene! perfect!
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dohplay
August 9, 2014 at 10:30 AM
Stupid Tae Yong knows Jae Bum wants to kill Jae Yul as soon as he gets out. Yet he tells Jae Bum Jae Yoel's work address without even giving Jae Yeol or Sunbae a heads up.
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11 Pollywood
August 8, 2014 at 11:02 AM
On the one hand I'm all for HS jumping JY and having steamy pornographic scenes in the bath tub ...
But on the other hand it would totally counteract her background and her disorder, and I would find that terrible and disappointing.
So, for the time being, the Show really can't win with me *sigh* but I am still in for the Magic-Penis-Cures-Disorders ride. Ikou!
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12 skwonto
August 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM
ACK. I love this show. The ups and downs. All of it.
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13 Supper
August 8, 2014 at 11:19 AM
i laugh so hard when Kwang Soo imitates Jae Yeol style xddddd suits him very well really handsome.
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14 Hugepuffball
August 8, 2014 at 11:22 AM
I don't watch currently airing dramas often, because at some point I usually just stop keeping up with them. BUT, I am left constantly refreshing the page every Wednesday and Thursday for subs and recaps.
I've never before known the pain of having to wait a week after such a cliffhanger. WAAAAEEEE
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM
Your comment made me smile. The pain... really. Welcome to the club :-)
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dinaa
August 10, 2014 at 5:39 PM
I totally understand you. I usually wait for the drama to end then marathon its episodes.
However, this time I'm watching week by week, and the pain is REAL..
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15 Pollywood
August 8, 2014 at 11:25 AM
Reasons why JY not only imagines KW but actually EVERYONE ELSE (HS, Sunbae, SooKwang at the least) as well:
(1) When they are in a car together, JY is the one driving
(2) The house/hospital/coffee shop belong to JY - who is to say that anyone actually lives there.
(3) Their personal relationships are not intertwined further than the people JY actually meets and/or hears about.
(4) JY is obviously very very sick. Poor baby. ._.
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 11:34 AM
I would like a show with an extreme twist as that but I doubt it would happen here.
Characters have relationships before Jae-yeol knows of them after all (first few episodes). Once he meets his roommates, of course he gets entangled in their lives.
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DeeCee
August 8, 2014 at 2:12 PM
Pollywood, I love your theory, and it would be fabulous if it were the storyline. But I don't think that it is for the following reasons:
1. Not that it proves anything, but I think he's the only one who owns a car, so if they take a car, it's his and of course he would drive. Everyone else uses public transport/taxis.
2. In theory, those other people were already living in the house before he knew it existed. He didn't hear about the house until his friend showed him the birthday? video that they had made. And he made a point of buying it after he agreed to move in, so there would be no reason to show people living there before he moved in if they were figments of his imagination.
3. We see pretty much everyone interacting with people that JY doesn't know - Hae-soo's family and coworkers, people in the bar that they all fought with, everyone at the concert, etc... Plus I don't think he knows that his brother is seeing Sunbae Jo, and that whole scene with Jae-bum escaping could not have happened unless Sunbae Jo exists.
4. I totally agree that he is very sick, but on the other hand, until recently he seems to have been coping in society quite well. Nobody, including his best friend from childhood, seems to have caught on to his hallucinations. I wonder if his budding relationship with Hae-soo is stimulating something in his brain that is cranking up his mental issues into high gear.
I guess we will just have to patiently wait for things to become clear!
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM
Hi Pollywood!
Very Shutter Island-like idea... A large part of the story and some of the characters could be figments of his challenged mind. How mind-boggling would it be for us if Show gives us that!?! Cool!
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Marge
August 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM
You're very clever...
BUT wow, I am hoping this isn't true :((
It would be such a horrible plot twist if the whole thing will be concluded as man's imagination- or should I say, hallucination.
GAHHHH
AAAGGHAHHAHAHAAAFSDSA nNOOOO
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16 nana
August 8, 2014 at 11:27 AM
People Kwang Soo & Schoolgirl it's a love line, it's so obvious, now is minor but this is dramaland, the years fly, and she ends up studying psychology, say that in her character profile.
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17 ultramarineblue
August 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM
Thanks so much for the recap!
Just my two cents but I think Jaebum got a syringe from his friend and then switched it with the syringe filled with sodium amytal. Therefore, the one Sunbae Jo took back was the empty/non-amytal syringe. He probably thought it was ok to leave Jaebum alone b/c he had the syringe in his pocket not knowing it had been switched.
But anyway, I LOVE Hae-soo and Jae-yeol together and the fact that their romance is developing bit by bit with understanding and acceptance. She doesn't cry or feel sorry for him; she just takes it in. This does make me worry whether she does have a breaking point though which may be when she finds out about his hallucinations or when he becomes a patient?
Either way, I'm looking forward to next week!
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM
<He probably thought it was ok to leave Jaebum alone b/c he had the syringe in his pocket not knowing it had been switched
How would he not have noticed the switching? How would JB have gotten a syringe that is like the original one?
The only thing that might explain Sunbae Jo's stupidity would be if the syringe didn't contain the truth serum, but some harmless substance... i.e. Sunbae anticipating that something like that might happen. Just because even if he knew nothing about Jae-bum, a professional wouldn't leave meds out for any patient to freely take.
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seven
August 8, 2014 at 12:11 PM
The switching (if it occurred at all) would have been when Jaebum tripped (kicked?) Sunbae, who crashed into a couch and spent a few moments crying in pain. Granted, the fact that he was about to leave Jaebum alone for a moment with the Amytal while he went to get him water kind of ruins any suggestion of professional competency.
I'm open also to the theory that the syringe didn't contain Amytal, but them I'm wondering what it could be and how Sunbae planned to play it off after Jaebum realized that the drug wasn't doing its work. Also the legality of injecting anyone with something that they didn't give consent to.
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 12:33 PM
I think it would work on the placebo effect... especially since the serum isn't reliable anyhow (one of the reasons why it isn't used anymore / banned in most countries... indeed, I would be quite curious to find out if it is in fact still used in Korea or whether Sunbae was making that up from the start).
Not sure about the legality, but if it's something harmless, e.g. a relaxant or something that does nothing at all, I don't see what case could be made. The ethicalness of it all, that's a whole other pot of worms of course.
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Sur
August 8, 2014 at 7:39 PM
Sunbae cant be making up the amytal because HS uses it in the hospital too on that baby imagining girl
18 Adal
August 8, 2014 at 11:39 AM
OK it's official! Jo In Sung has the sexiest gaze this side of the universe!♡Anyone else feel hot and bothered just by watching those smoldering stares? I was screaming at my console: "Get a room already! " and "Kiss him back! You know you want to". Hot! LOL. Mamma mia!
Seriously, how dumb can a psychiatrist be to leave a truth serum and a needle in the presence of a convict without strapping him up first? Especially since he's fully aware of his patient's violent tendencies and furthermore, said patient is delusional. The whole thing reeks of stupidity and is just a plot device to push the story along.
BTW, did Hae Soo see the abduction/stabbing or not? I'm on pins and needles til the next episode.
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poulpion
August 8, 2014 at 4:54 PM
ah ah! yes, he's hot. It's funny because I totally didn't get the fuss about him before. I watched What Happened in Bali? and That Winter... and I didn't find him attractive at all (to be honest, I got gay vibes from him ^^; I don't know why!)... anyway, now I SEE it! ^^
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thursdaynexxt
August 9, 2014 at 2:25 AM
Agree! My eyes are opened! I didn't get his hotness in That Winter (or even in Frozen Flower, when he was nekkid as a baby...).
I think the difference is in the character he's playing here. He's a player, after all. And those knowing eyes and slight smile ... I'm a goner!
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fab
August 9, 2014 at 7:04 AM
Jo In Sung! Pfff that gaze weakens the legs... Sigh. Unconsciously I keep rewinding his scenes because I get distracted and 'forget' to read the subs. Those close-ups can kill...
Unlike others on this comment, I always had this weakness for him.
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19 DongniPongni
August 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM
This show gives me goosebumps. Sometimes in a good way and sometimes in a bad way but i'm always left wanting more. Maybe i need to see a psychiatrist too XD
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 5:42 PM
LOL at your comment! even when I'm crying out in frustration, i still wanna see how it goes. Addicted to show, are we. Let's make that doctor's appointment :D
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20 wildfly
August 8, 2014 at 11:50 AM
Wow.
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21 browncoat_78
August 8, 2014 at 11:52 AM
I love this show. A LOT. But if I had a bone to pick today it's that Hae Soo's "trauma" is just such a joke compared to poor Jae Yeol and yet there are times when I feel like the show is trying to compare them - that these are both broken people who will find healing in each other. But JY's trauma and damage are soooooo far beyond HS's petty problem I just can't even. She needs to just get over herself; whereas it's a miracle JY can even function as a human being after what he's been through.
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wildfly
August 8, 2014 at 12:26 PM
if she is seriously wrecked, she couldn't help him, and i think that's what her role will be beside the romance. i mean, when JY was talking to his younger alter ego, they discussed it - she is the one who can save his soul.
so we need a trauma that'll make her 'interesting' in his eyes, explain the push-and-pull game, but not serious enough to interfere with the plot.
besides growing up in a family where the dad is a cripple is not so simple, adultery aside. but her phobia is no joke. also, she is a 30+ virgin :)
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skelly
August 8, 2014 at 12:43 PM
I think that HS's problems are just being used as the opening storyline - that things will get much more serious, and much more dramatic - as we delve more and more into JY's issues. If they both had issues as horrific as JY, the story would be over-the-top, perhaps almost comical.
I don't believe they are trying to equate HS and JY's issues so much as show that everyone has issues. And I think the point they are trying to make is that it is REALLY hard to just "get over yourself" - that not only do you need the help of others, but it may be that you need just one person to reach you in the right way.
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM
Hmmm, I am not sure I want to judge people on their traumas – what may seem ridiculous to us, may not be too others. Most phobias, after all, are quite ridiculous, particularly the degree to which people react.
Plus, I wonder if we have really been told everything about Hae-soo's trauma.
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Kim Yoonmi
August 8, 2014 at 1:37 PM
Hear, hear. What's traumatic for one person may not be for another. People can be in the exact same situation and then one develops a trauma and another doesn't. Traumas can be huge or small, so socially the show is correct.
Some soldiers, for the same platoon and unit develop PTSD and then the soldier in the same platoon and situation might not develop it for that particular situation.
I'm disagreeing with how it manifests though...
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 5:46 PM
yes, i also think there's more to HS's trauma than what we're shown this early in the show...
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Helen
August 8, 2014 at 5:55 PM
Personally, I don't think it's too good of an idea to be judging anybody's 'severity of trauma and mental issues - much less claim that anyone needs to 'get over themselves' , even if you have been in a similar position etc...since, y'know, everybody's different.
And while I can see where the 'comparison' of JY and Hs in the show is...I think it might be another part of the Show encouraging us to be open minded, something that's its done fairly well, thus far ^_^
Anyway, I loved this episode and all the ones before it...also wary of judging the Amytal slip-up after re-watching...for all we know - there might be some twist in the next episode...
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Megumi
August 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM
C'mon do you really believe all the people have same kind of mindset? because if you do then I must say you're very naive to think like that, things that might look petty to you can be a big deal to someone, a trauma you have as a child however small that may be can affect you your whole life unless you get some kind of professional help to control it, and even so you can't be sure that you will be cured of it 100%, in HS case you can clearly see that she's not enjoying this at all, she's fed up with being scared of physical intimacy and wants to wipe that traumatic memory she has of witnessing her mother kissing another man, she wants to beat it but it's definitely not easy at all like you are making it out to be.
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22 Sasaeng
August 8, 2014 at 12:25 PM
He sleeps in a tub? Kyle XY, anyone?
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kopytko
August 8, 2014 at 3:18 PM
Whenever the sleeping in the bathroom is mentioned, I inevitably think of this song http://youtu.be/s4pvAoge1Is
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Adele
August 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM
Also, he took a shower in one of the first episodes, and we did not see his torso.... So we have no proofs he has a belly button!
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23 mystisith
August 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM
I know there is a twist with that syringe. We'll see the other half of the event next week and be aaaaaa...
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 6:07 PM
I hope so. I refuse to believe that Sunbae Jo is incompetent!
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24 Lu
August 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM
Now that Fated to Love You has officially broken my heart into a thousand pieces, I'm so very happy that this drama still delivers.
Jae-yeol has easily become my new favorite character -- not only because he's breathtakingly beautiful in practically every single shot, but also because I am ever amazed at his openness and raw vulnerability.
Not gonna lie, I cried when he showed Hae-soo this sanctum of his, the bathtub, because that's such a big gesture of trust... it breaks me. Also important to note how there was no shame in all of it. As someone with social anxiety, who is practically embarrassed about every single one of her weaknesses (and how they are or could be perceived) as well as her general state of mental health, it felt especially liberating.
Thank you, show.
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dohplay
August 9, 2014 at 10:43 AM
I almost gave up on that show (utterly bored with the story) but episode 12's ending is pulling me back in. Can't wait!
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25 Anon
August 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM
There are a couple things that bother me about the show.
The first one is implying that the truth serum actually works. It works the same way as getting someone drunk, it messes with their head/perception but does not intercept their ability to lie.
Another thing is something quite like what happened to Hae-soo happened to me - so this is a "personal" dislike. For me, I don't agree with "love" being able to trump all. As if to help give people strength or save them in tragedy. Love is just a feeling, and like a feelings - come and go. Love is nice but it's not the only thing in the world and to put your trust in it... well this is just my opinion.
These two characters have some serious issues that need to be resolved by them and them only. They need to learn to depend on themselves, before they branch out to a relationship. Focusing on their mental health is what's important.. I hope they don't magically cure themselves because of "love"
What I love about this show is giving their characters so much depth, even the minor ones, I'll be looking forward to the future development.
Personally there's something about Jae Bum's brother that leans me into believing him. Maybe... his desperation? And the way Jae Yeol acts around him, trying to get closer even though he knows better that he's out to get him.. perhaps some sort of guilt issue? Like him trying to resolve/make up for it? Well that's what I think.
And didn't he get mad at Kang-woo/himself for writing about him murdering his step father? More than mad, but overly defensive. Unless I made that up..
Well this is all still based on speculation.
I wonder, if Jae Yeol was the one who murdered his step father... what went through his mother's head to put the blame on his brother? That's betrayal on some other level.
It's just the way Jae Yeol and his mother act that's got me thinking.
And what is up with Soo Kwang's relationship with that girl???? So many questions! It's pacing nicely for its 6th episode though.
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xfantasiix
August 8, 2014 at 6:21 PM
' These two characters have some serious issues that need to be resolved by them and them only. They need to learn to depend on themselves, before they branch out to a relationship. Focusing on their mental health is what’s important.. I hope they don’t magically cure themselves because of “love” '
I think they have been trying to resolve the issues by themselves - well at least HS has, JY is planning to 'just live like that'. But at least for HS, for all her self-treatment and mind control exercise etc... she hasn't been too good at overcoming her trauma, has she? So maybe these two need each other; maybe not even for love, just for the understanding that the other person may be just as *screwed up* (for lack of a better term) as themselves...and that it's okay.
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Anon
August 9, 2014 at 9:22 AM
That's what I liked about the drama, how independent HS was. But suddenly, she no longer pictures her mother because she kissed someone who has "something" (her choice of words)? This very trauma that has excluded her from the norm relationships with men and basically ruined her relationship with her mother? Suddenly - this guy no longer makes her feel that way? A bit to far-fetched in my opinion. Esp since she's been struggling with this for so long.
There's this underlying message the drama is trying to tell us, that love gives us strength. Or love allows us to go through it. They've said that with HS's pregnant couple friends and the mother who imagined her dead baby too.
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xfantasiix
August 10, 2014 at 3:37 AM
I think I get where you're coming from with the 'oops trauma gone already' thing - cuz I was also worried that they would play of her 'life-changing (in a bad way) trauma so easily.
But I'm actually quite satisfied so far with how they've handled it. Since
1. It clearly doesn't sound like HS is all 'Yay, trauma gone!' - she actually sounds closer to the opposite; probably out of a fear of whats next, since, let's face it, this has probably haunted her her whole life and now shes making progress she's entering the territory of 'unknown' (even if it may be a good type of unknown)
2. I'm willing to bet that HS has never been quite this spontaneous before she met JY, so like Sunbae Jo said - maybe theres that thing of catching her off guard and 'de-sensitizing' her. Considering it doesn't seem liek something shes tried before - maybe this kind of desensitizing was the key all along
3. She's clearly struggling, GHJ does a wonderful job of potraying the obv uncertainty that HS faces; so the entire proccess actually doesn't come of like the fairytale 'love-cures-all' solution I feared it would try to feed us
That's not to say the underlying message isn't there - it is; but since it's not shoving the message down our throats (well, not my throat at least), and it's a drama, I actually okay with it ^_^
Still, if she's magically cured from her on out I'm going to throw something at my screen - I'm holding out *hope* that shes gonna stumble a bit from here onwards; this isn't the end of HS's problem, in my opinion ~
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dohplay
August 9, 2014 at 10:41 AM
It's actually only Jae Bum that's making the sodium amytal stuff to be more than it is. Yeah, it's not a miracle drug, but to someone like Jae Bum (maybe uneducated), it is.
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26 laraffinee
August 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM
I can't even begin to say how thrilled I am with this drama!!!
From the fabulous music selections, the smart script (finally!), the superb acting....on and on!!!
The house mates and the leads are doing such a great job with their characters! I LOVE it!
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27 Giegie
August 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM
I am itching to see the CCTV footage of JY's supposed fight with KW's father, how sad would it be seeing him hurting himself. His situation is getting worst, poor him. And that last scene made me utter unintelligible sound. Why didn't JB wait a day to attack JY? Just one day of JY and HS together! Anyway, the show must have changed their cameramen, there are no more commercial-like shots of JIS.^^
Thanks gummimochi.
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28 fun-lugha
August 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM
Too much pretty on one man I dont know what to do with myself-Kim Min Hee u must be one happy girl ;) On the other hand well done to Fated, I havent seen 300+ comments on a recap since YWCFTS...good stuff, seems like beanies have given their seal of approval!
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29 ana
August 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM
Lol I hope how this drama keeps pointing out that she's still in "high school" and that she's still a "minor". This doesn't happen too often in dramaland.
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30 letmesee
August 8, 2014 at 1:23 PM
What a great series this has turned out to be. I find it absorbing, sometimes unsettling, funny and sad particularly in this episode. It answered some questions (bathtub scene) but raised more for us to ponder.
I love Jo InSung's portrayal of Jae Yeol. This is the first time I seen him in a show but I am already a big fan. I have just make a decision to watch That Winter, The Wind Blows.
I like all the other characters as well. I can't wait to see the next episode.
Show, I love you, please give Jae Yeol a good ending!
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31 Kim Yoonmi
August 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM
I'm renaming this show, It's not OK, There is no Science
'cause the lack of science is finally putting nails into the social aspects of the show such that it's failing. The definition of trauma as they have it is wrong. Most people want to get over their trauma, not hang onto it like cross to bear and so on.
It's like you gave someone a psychology dictionary and then expect them to write a show about it and they just take it in order and at random and then mix things together without understanding the people behind them or have an expert to help them through.
I'm starting to feel more detached as they say things like love is a cure all. Love is a comfort, but not a cure all. Love will not fix her scars.
And then the plot hole--huge one of not understanding how truth serum works and its applications, and the leaving it out like he did only after 2-3 sessions with him makes me really forwny face at the show.
I want the social aspects of the show to work out, but at this point the lack of science is interfering with the social aspects and therefore my attachment to the show and its characters. They need a consult in there stat to help them smooth over the plot tangle mess.
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mystisith
August 8, 2014 at 1:57 PM
It's only a drama & one of the few with Me too, Flower or Good Doctor which bravely dares to tackle mental health on one of the Big 3 (not very attractive topic). If Show was "scientifically accurate", people would fall asleep or run away. That's why I will cut it some slack.
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Kim Yoonmi
August 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM
You can be scientifically accurate and still have the drama and conflict. And it won't be boring, it's the difference between doing your research and backgrounding your research and not doing your research and saying screw it.
All writers have a duty to their reader to do their research. The difference is what you do with that information. Me, as a writer is telling that other writer they need to do the due diligence and to use the information subtly, instead of going all WTH is this with half the research.
Even wikipedia could give more than this show's research. Writers, as a general function, do research, the difference from nonfiction writers is that we, the fiction writers, background most of the research we do, so that the amount you see is only represented 5-10, but because we researched, the 90-95% research we did works internally to the story, though not presented.
That's what I'm asking the writer to do here. Writer to writer, I know they half-donkeyed it and I'm not pleased, especially when the show centers on it.
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xfantasiix
August 8, 2014 at 6:06 PM
While I will agree with the scientific in-accuracy of the drama, I can overlook it - and the major reason I can is due to the disclaimer at the start of every episode.
The Drama isn't trying to be something it's not - It's not trying to be a drama that tells us 'okay look here, this is how trauma and psychology works'
It's a drama that says to me 'Here are a *slightly*-dysfunctional bunch of people in this world that we've created; take a look at how they inner personalities before judging them, and watch how they can help each other overcome their issues.'
So I'll suspend belief and go all in for the message the show is trying to tell me, but I'll keep in mind that the world created behind my screen is purely fictional ^_^
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starling_on_the_roof
August 8, 2014 at 7:39 PM
Are you sure that it is really drama that is inaccurate? Maybe it is the translation that is imperfect, given the fact that it is done by amateurs (both in terms of translation and medicine) and in a very short time?
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DHM
August 8, 2014 at 9:00 PM
As somebody who is seeing a therapist for help dealing with a series of traumas that resulted in PTSD, or possibly CPTSD, I couldn't disagree with you more strenuously (except on the 'truth serum' and Dr. Jo being irresponsible this episode).
One of the things I love about this show is how realistic it feels to me. Weirdly, several times something JY says about it is something I have just talked about with my therapist that week.
And no, of course love won't cure everything, but it's a damn site harder to overcome the trauma of child abuse without it than it is with it.
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soadus
August 9, 2014 at 4:35 AM
i think before the start of the show there is a disclaimer about what will be depicted in the story so I cut them some slack.
Practicing as a psychiatric nurse now and yes, we still use amobarbitals with caution. I repeat, with caution.
I will still hold judgment on what Dr. Jo did this episode and will wait for episode 7. As for now, while I scratch my head to some actions done by supposed psychiatrists in this drama, there are some aspects of the show that is so nice to ponder and i appreciate their attempt to humanise persons with mental challenges.
This is just refreshing to watch amidst the inaccuracy in psychiatry and psychology.
sorry for my poor english here.
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32 Just Jen
August 8, 2014 at 1:37 PM
Is it just me, or is Jae-Yeol breaking out of his color scheme (of red, yellow, blue, black, white, and gray)?
It seemed like he was wearing pastel orange and pastel green shirts in this episode.
And I wonder whether that blue object that fell out of his pocket during the fight with Kang-Woo's dad was intentional by the director or just and editing mistake.
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mai
August 8, 2014 at 6:14 PM
That was intentional. some speculated it was his phone, but clearly it's not. what's your guess? I just feel it's significant though...
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33 harmonyfb
August 8, 2014 at 1:59 PM
This episode really made me dislike HS. How can you watch someone come in all beat to hell and not immediately go to them? How can the first words you say NOT be "Are you all right?"
How can you so casually dismiss someone who is clearly opening a long-closed door into their heart? Even if you don't have any feelings for them, you acknowledge their confidence instead of just turning on your heel. Feh.
And honestly, I just want someone to grab her by the shoulders and say "Oh, so your Mom cheated on your Dad. Boo-effing-hoo. Suck it up and stop making it all. about. you. (Especially when the person next to you has been through serious trauma - her whininess reminds me of nothing so much as the matriarch in Cold Comfort Farm. "You've gotten a lot of mileage out of seeing 'something nasty in the woodshed', haven't you, HS?")
Why, oh, why won't someone call her on her ridiculously childish behavior?
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poulpion
August 8, 2014 at 4:44 PM
yeah, she gets on my nerves too, but on the other hand, we're clearly shown that she's supposed to be a bit of an ass, and thankfully, sunbae Jo is always here to call her out on her bullsh**. Like when she didn't want to ride the car with Jae Yeol and he just said "well, just take the bus then". And it's the same with Jae Yeol, he doesn't let her get away with her crap, and this is what allows them to make progress as a couple.
I also liked the moment when sunbae Jo talked to her about her defence mechanisms (one of my favourite moments). I had been hoping that he -- or anyone -- would have a straight talk with her about that, because since the beginning her bitchiness towards Jae Yeol seems to have been a defence mechanism against his being overt and uncomplexed about sexuality. With her trauma, this must have been giving her hives from the start.
I loved this line:
"What exactly are you holding onto so desperately that you're willing to use your defense mechanism to turn the one man who actually likes you into a sexual predator? Your panic disorder that you've been trying to get over all your life?"
I think the way she gradually came to admit she liked kissing Jae Yeol was really well made. I felt both sorry and happy for her. Sorry because it was so difficult to admit such a simple thing, and happy because she had the honesty to do it.
It was great that sunbae Jo could get through Hae Joo and that she apologised to Jae Yeol the next day. After all, everyone can be an ass sometimes, but the difference is between the person who refuses to consider she's wrong, and the one who can face up to her own crap and apologize.
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xfantasiix
August 8, 2014 at 6:32 PM
For me personally...While I will call her out on the childish personality, and occasional brattiness when JS and her mum are involved, I can't judge her for making it 'all.about.you'. Her attitude towards JS could very well be a defence mechanism, and while that doesn't excuse her behaviour, I'm not going to belittle her social/psychological issues because the may very well be just that serious to her and JS trauma is to him.
Anyway, the show is all about pushing forward the message of not being so quick to judge and belittle a person.
On a side note, the scene where Sunbae Jo and getting her to admit stuff to herself was quite moving - cuz as an audience we really do get to see how deeply affected she is - and don't think we should underestimate that, as it seems so many people on here are doing...
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harmonyfb
August 8, 2014 at 7:16 PM
>I can’t judge her for making it ‘all.about.you’
Oh, I can. ::laugh:: It's a pretty severe level of self-involvement. And the fact that it's shown against levels of trauma that are clearly horrific - it really makes her look whiny as hell.
I just keep watching it expecting her to catch on how trivial her 'trauma' was next to people who lost infants, or who were beaten by family members until their organs ruptured, etc. But she keeps clinging to it like it's a badge of honor. So annoying.
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S
August 8, 2014 at 7:51 PM
Well, we've all got problems. Hers might not seem much of a problem, but you realise it's actually pretty bad if she can't be intimate without being dirty. It's something she knows all her life.
Her sunbae HAS been calling her on her childishness, he has been doing it since the first episode. But you realise she doesn't even feel that she needs therapy, and that might actually be because she feels it's not much of a problem compared to someone else's. Hers is on the back burner. She doesn't find fault in how defensive she is at all.
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xoxo_b2uty
August 8, 2014 at 9:07 PM
I'm not sure how trivial her condition may or may not be but judging her for it echoes strongly against Sunbae Jo's sentiments in ep5 about the difference in people's attitudes towards 'severe' illnesses like cancer etc... and mental illnesses that people should just 'get over'.
Pinning one mental illness against another is not that much different from comparing illnesses of the body with that of the mind...and then judging people for it...
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Tori
August 8, 2014 at 9:44 PM
I agree that oftentimes Hae Soo makes it about her but I don't think you can call a person's trauma trivial compared to others. I think this drama makes it a point to show that everyone has their own issues and everyone deserves their spotlight. in episode 1 the line where Hae Soo tells the patient that she needs to understand herself before her parents really highlights that.
Noone knows what goes on inside your head so yes, while losing a baby will seem more traumatic on any given day I think that Hae Soo deserves slack because you don't know how large the trauma may feel mentally.
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thursdaynexxt
August 9, 2014 at 2:18 AM
The comments here exactly illustrate the point that Sunbae Jo was making about peoples' reaction to physical vs mental patients.
If someone catches a cold and is sniffling away, you tell them, "I hope you get better soon". If they're suffering from a mental illness (particularly when it's long-term or not triggered by a traumatic event), people are like, "Just get over it. Pull yourself together. Take your meds."
If there's anything I've learnt, it's that it's hard to really sympathise 100% unless you've been there yourself (and even then, it's not easy). So it's natural to have knee-jerk reactions about what we don't understand or can't see or measure. But we do need to understand that it can be a form of discrimination, and educate ourselves. After all, most of us are going to experience it in some way, sooner or later.
I've said myself that Hae-soo and Kwang-soo have a milder condition than many others in the drama. But after watching the confrontation in the rain between Hae-soo and PD Choi, it doesn't change the fact that it's had a huge impact on her for decades, and has a crippling effect on her quality of life - not to mention her ties with her mother. She still needs treatment.
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shinayame
August 9, 2014 at 6:59 AM
She did go to him. She saw him, followed him to his room and checked up on him. Then she got the first aid kit from her room, went into his bathroom and fixed him up. I don't mind that she didn't ask him if he was okay or that she didn't show how concerned she was outwardly; we already know about the facade she tends to put up around him. It's a defense mechanism, like Sunbae Jo pointed out But as someone who doesn't talk too much, I know that actions show much truer sincerity than words.
And I don't think she was dismissing him or turning her back on him by leaving. He'd just opened himself up to her for the first time. She's already unsettled by the way she feels for him and I would imagine that him making himself so vulnerable in front of her shook her even more. Maybe she needed time to think about what it meant that he made himself that vulnerable and how to deal with it.
Also Hae Soo's trauma could actually be a huge deal to her. It may not seem as big a deal as Jae Yeol's problems, but she doesn't know about those yet. And obviously it was a big enough trauma that it affected her relationships with men so significantly. In her world, her probelm is a big deal. And right now, her world doesn't consist of Jae Yeol the author with mental issues, but Jae Yeol the author-playboy, who's making her feel things she doesn't want to. So who are we to judge?
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34 Marina
August 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM
On a lighter note. Even with my dislike for Hae Soo character, (it started with her being mean to her mother and uncaring toward the boy she doesn't know is only Jae-yeol's imagination. I want to
shout that Jae-yeol is the best guy for her to forget her sexual problems and date him. Didn't she watch Frozen Flower?! He is just what a doctor ordered. :)
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alua
August 8, 2014 at 3:13 PM
I think the mother-daughter relationship is very complex – there has been a lot of hurting each other and probably with fault on each side. They are both not nice to each other.
But yes, she was surprisingly uncaring to the boy.
Is Jae-yeol the best guy for her? Sure, I ship them because they have great chemistry and because in this drama they'll work out, but in real life? He comes with a lot of baggage, and I mean A LOT as in possibly insurmountable. He's also quite grabby – as much as their kissing is great, he did already force two kisses on her, while knowing that her feelings and fears of physical intimacy (though she responded to the second one).
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Giegie
August 8, 2014 at 4:21 PM
I just saw that film few days ago (watched it out of curiosity after my friend told me to avoid it lest I change my mind about JIS who's been on my favorite list since Memories of Bali time) and yes,he's the right guy for Hae-soo, to cure her phobia. ;)
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35 pbjtimeee
August 8, 2014 at 2:07 PM
The recap just possibly spoiled Fight Club for me LOL
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kopytko
August 8, 2014 at 2:20 PM
I assure you, it didn't. It's one surprising ride of a film.
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36 Cocobeans
August 8, 2014 at 3:07 PM
For me the only sane person in this show is the one seeing imaginary boys.
We got a psychiatrist with anger management issues and really bad judgement skills (sure leave a convicted killer alone with a siringe full of potent drugs)
Another psych(o) who actually seems to LIKE having her sexual /intimacy problems because she seems to be clinging to it for dear life even when someone presents her with a way out (starts humming "let it go" from frozen )and don"t get me started on that idiot "best childhood friend"...you cheat your friend by helping his ex steal his book and you backstab him by getting his brother (who used to beat him and almost killed him once) help on his early release..what ? you're too chicken to kill him yourself and you hope he is gonna do it for you? With people like that around you, anyone would start seeing things. GOD I LOVE THIS DRAMA!!!
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MrPizza
August 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM
And Soo Kwang Likes Teen Girls Or School Girls Xdddddd
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37 mai
August 8, 2014 at 3:49 PM
Jae Bum hyung, so you’re officially the bad guy, eh?
Hae Soo-ssi, I’m glad you’re already so into JY before he discovered the gravity of his illness.
Jae Yeol-ah, thank you for letting us into your bathroom today… rough times ahead, but don’t shut us out, okay?
Gummi, thank you for the recap! I wouldn’t say I love you. But you know my feelings, right? :-D
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38 marie
August 8, 2014 at 5:01 PM
This show is sooooo Addictive I am loving it bring on Wednesday.
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39 Marina
August 8, 2014 at 6:24 PM
Different melodrama, language, century and country alert. This comment and link is not about this show, it's about how they cure phobia in Bolllywood. Stage and guitar phobia in this case ... I think. I was three when this movie came out, but it didn't stop me from watching it more than a few times by age ten. Take it as Friday funny. :)
http://youtu.be/P9vNLkHQYuE
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40 gocchan
August 8, 2014 at 6:50 PM
I'm so in love with this show.
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41 risa
August 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM
That last screencap made me realize that JY's bed was designed to look like an egg. I've seen plenty of oval bathtubs, but never an egg-shaped one before, and the yellow comforter and pillow are obviously meant to represent the yolk. Maybe one of the drama's messages is that it takes a village to help us give birth to ourselves?
I sure hope there's a twist revealed in the next ep. showing that Sunbae Jo's actions weren't as grossly irresponsible as they appeared~ otherwise, he ought to lose his medical license. (And why didn't he think to call JY and warn him when he saw JB escaping?) If there isn't a twist, I'll be mad at NHK who just shouldn't have gone there with the script.
Thanks, Gummi... hope you have a blast at KCON!
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sirena
August 8, 2014 at 8:59 PM
"That last screencap made me realize that JY’s bed was designed to look like an egg. I’ve seen plenty of oval bathtubs, but never an egg-shaped one before, and the yellow comforter and pillow are obviously meant to represent the yolk. Maybe one of the drama’s messages is that it takes a village to help us give birth to ourselves?"
We were on the same page regarding the tub :) You bring up an interesting point about it taking a community to nurture the individual. The individuals within the home are like a micro-community.community. Knowlingly or unknowingly they need each other in order to cope and overcome their issues/fears/concerns etc.
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42 sirena
August 8, 2014 at 8:52 PM
In my opinion Jae-yeol revealing his 'bed room' to Hae-soo was a more intimate moment than the kiss they shared. Jae-yeol trusts Hae-soo enough to expose more of his vunerability. I do hope that Hae-soo does the same.
Watching Jae-yeol fall asleep in the tub reminded me of the image of an infant within his/her mother's womb. The tub is shaped like an egg.The tub is white on the outside and yellow (the blanket) on the inside.
This was a great episode and I'm looking forward to the next.
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43 Niki
August 9, 2014 at 12:30 AM
Oh...now i see how Jae Yeol's bedroom tied-in with the poster of JIS and GHJ snuggling in the bathtub.
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44 chip n dale
August 9, 2014 at 1:34 AM
Hi, anyone know the song in the scene when jaeyul try to save do and beaten up by do's father ?? thanks ^^
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evergreen
August 9, 2014 at 3:52 AM
It's hero by family of the year.
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45 thursdaynexxt
August 9, 2014 at 2:22 AM
Totally random, but it's been a while since I've seen so many song queries for a drama.
When you take it out of context, the questions sound sooo strange and weirdly hilarious. I think my favourite so far is courtesy of Mexxdbest (Ep 1 comments):
"What was the song that was playing when Jae Yul was being stabbed by his brother?"
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xfantasiix
August 10, 2014 at 3:58 AM
Hahaha, I never thought about it like that - now that you mention in though; that does sound hilarious! :) Thanks for the laugh ^_^
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thursdaynexxt
August 10, 2014 at 6:10 AM
Any time! :) Music and laughter make the best medicine, right?
* goes off practicing Jae-yeol dance moves*
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46 loveprevail
August 9, 2014 at 4:04 AM
Okay, now things have gotten very, very complicated.
It's one thing to have an imaginary friend but to take it so far as to react violently and beating up somebody else when in fact he's doing it to himself, is extremely serious. There are no boundaries anymore which means it is severely dangerous. He cannot be left running around freely without proper supervision anymore. I guess the show must 'out' him soon.
I wonder when it all started? When did Kang woo first appear to Jae Yeol as real? Must be fairly recent because it seems like nobody knows about Kang Woo, only lately. And Kang Woo's story is shown to us as it's being revealed to Jae Yeol simultaneously. Hence, I'm curious as to why and what was the catalyst that created this manifestation?
So writer-nim, you do have a lot on your plate. I hope you can really pull this off because I'm really into this couple. Also, I'm open to the promise that love can conquer all...not the fairy tale way but that with the strength of love, there is no mountain high enough that can keep them apart and from overcoming the effects of the brutality and suffering that can and does happen in life.
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Lindy
August 9, 2014 at 10:46 AM
I agree that Kang-woo's appearance is a recent one. In the prologue, for lack of a better word, there's a lavish party and both Jae-yeol and Jae-bum are in attendance. As Jae-yeol tells his mother in Episode 6 to throw a no-expenses-spared party celebrating his brother's release from prison for the second time, perhaps this earlier party was celebrating the first release. Jae-bum stabs his brother in the neck with a fork and this is when we first see Kang-woo. He's in full school uniform, very distraught, and he asks Jae-yeol if he is okay. I think this might be the first appearance of Kang-woo in Jae-yeol's life and the catalyst is his brother's stabbing because we find out that Jae-yeol is definitely not okay and hasn't been for a long time. Then the action of the drama moves ahead two years.
Up until the time of the first party, Jae-yeol has lived as a successful writer of romance novels with happy endings. He's protected himself by sleeping in the nearest available bathroom every single night since he was 15 because his need to feel safe at night trumps every other need in his life, including that of intimacy with a lover. He knows of his past in that he hasn't suppressed these memories but it is as if they have happened to someone else and that someone else is Kang-woo. I think Kang-woo appears at the precise moment Jae-bum stabs Jae-yeol to say "Look, you (I) think you (I) are safe but you (I) are not. Your (my) brother is still dangerous; he still wants to kill you (me)." So then his writing changes. He's now writing novels about serial killers, gore, violence and death. But it's the Kang-woo part of him who is writing these novels. Jae-yeol is in essence plagiarizing himself.
Also I must somewhat defend Dr Jo. He knows how dangerous Jae-bum is, he's read the rap sheet. He's using amytal sodium, also known as amobarbital, which is not an illegal drug. It is, however, a very dangerous drug which must be used under controlled circumstances. Its use as a "truth serum" has been thoroughly discredited and I think Dr Jo is using it as a sedative because Jae-bum is highly agitated, suffers from some form of anxiety disorder and is dangerous. This is an indicated use of amobarbital.
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47 kwangfan
August 9, 2014 at 1:27 PM
Today was Lee Sung Kyung aka Crazy Schoolgirl birthday, Kwang Soo and the rest from the cast surprised her with a birthday cake.
kwang soo with the cake it's so cute
happy 25th anniversary Lee Sung Kyung
The photo link
http://instagram.com/p/re7-JOsfU5/?modal=true
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48 barbjean
August 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM
Love this show and thank you for the recap. It's challenging though the artistic license taken in the storytelling with Dr. Jo's actions. He seems so incompetent as a psychiatrist, especially with Jae Bum. Seriously, how did he even think it was OK to leave the guy there and go get coffee. Ai-eesh! Oh well!
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49 jhomie
August 9, 2014 at 5:12 PM
I'm loving the mental health aspect of this! I'm pretty sure that JJ has schizophrenia. Which once they find out, will either make or break his and HS's relationship. Especially since she said you can't survive on love alone with a mental health patient. I'm sad there's only gonna 16 episodes though
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Lindy
August 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM
I don't think Jae-yeol is suffering from schizophrenia. He's showing pretty classic signs of severe Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. His visual and auditory hallucinations, his OCD symptoms, his sleeping in bathrooms to feel safe etc. Jae-bum could easily be a paranoid schizophrenic, though, rather than having some kind of anxiety disorder but that's not clear yet. But putting him in prison for fifteen years rather than treating him certainly hasn't helped very much!
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50 bububububbles
August 9, 2014 at 10:07 PM
Ahh okay question : Why has Jae Yeol never tried to seek medical/psychological help? The fact that he suffers such trauma that he is only comfortable in a bathroom to sleep should indicate to him that he has a problem no??
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xfantasiix
August 10, 2014 at 3:51 AM
He has - he talked about his doctor telling him the negative effect of meds on his writing and so on at the end of the last episode; that pretty much tells us he IS aware, how much aware, well I'm not sure...but he IS definitely aware something is not quite right with him. He is the one choosing to, in his words, 'just live like this' ... which probably tips us off that he is not all that aware of the severity of his problems...
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Funfare
August 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM
Message from the Channel Manager of It's Okay, That's Love
The preview for episode 7 is here:
http://www.viki.com/videos/1047912v
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