Triangle: Episode 18

107 July 4, 2014January 24, 2016

by gummimochi

One kidnapping throws everything and everyone in a tizzy this hour, forcing our rivals in love (and brothers) to work together—however briefly—to secure her release. Never has watching two brothers fight over one girl’s affections, corporate power, and everything in between been this heart-wrenching, especially when the truth is so close.

While Doctor Stranger still held the lead with 10.1%, Triangle inched up on its competitor, as this episode hit 8.9%. Still yet, Trot Lovers remained steady, netting a 6.1%.

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EPISODE 18 RECAP

After failing to flag down the van that kidnapped Jung-hee, Yang-ha makes an angry phone call to Chairman Go, accusing him of resorting to abduction to get back at Young-dal. “She’s someone special to me, too.” But Chairman Go takes offense and denies doing anything of the sort.

Recalling when Director Hyun spoke of how Yang-ha recently fell out of favor with his adoptive father, Chairman Go had remarked that Chairman Yoon was crueler than he thought.

Still, it seems Chairman Go was truly unaware of any kind of kidnapping, since he tries to find out who the victim was, only to be told that it’s best to leave Myung-jae to his own devices. Elsewhere, poor Jung-hee is tied up and alone, hollering for help that may never come.

Myung-jae is pleased that things are going according to plan—there’s no point in letting Young-dal know that his love one’s been kidnapped since he’ll come crawling to them once he finds out, anyway.

Missing Jang-soo finally makes contact from Macau, having been recently released from his captors. After hearing that Yang-ha intervened after finding out about their plans in Macau, Young-dal tells his scared friend to return to Korea quickly.

It’s only now that Young-dal learns that Hanchang Group (Chairman Sung’s casino enterprise) has a working relationship with Myungahnsoo Group, and connects the dots that they’ve been had.

He grabs a fistful of Yang-ha’s suit when the latter comes storming into his office, but he’s told that they’ve got bigger things to worry about than business right now—Jung-hee’s been kidnapped.

Yang-ha pins the blame of her abduction on him, and because this is Realization Hour for Young-dal, he works out that Myung-jae somehow found out about Jung-hee. The truth finally hits when he tries calling, but her phone goes unanswered.

At least he sends Jailbreak to the house to cover up Jung-hee’s disappearance so that they don’t worry by informing her family that she’ll be working the graveyard shift. Aw, that’s sweet.

Once Dong-soo is filled in, he warns Young-dal against any rash behavior since doing so will be playing into Myung-jae’s hands. While Dong-soo has his former detective team look into Myung-jae’s whereabouts, Boss Min and Manbong try to keep Young-dal calm.

Young-dal is a bundle of nerves, unable to bear sitting idly while Jung-hee’s in danger, but Boss Min says one wrong move could endanger her further. Hardly able to endure seeing Young-dal so distressed, she asks Manbong if they should really act, but he advises against it.

Both Young-dal and Yang-ha brood separately, thinking back to their last conversations with Jung-hee. And for what it’s worth, Jung-hee might be scared, but unharmed.

After Director Hyun learns of Jung-hee’s kidnapping the next day, he calls Chairman Go to devilishly say that her involvement could kill two birds with one stone for them, since Jung-hee is someone both Young-dal and Yang-ha care about.

So Young-dal suggests to his rival to temporarily put aside their differences and work together to save Jung-hee. Young-dal acknowledges that he’s the reason why she’s been taken, but points out that Yang-ha isn’t exempt either, because he could have stopped Chairman Go.

Yang-ha argues that Chairman Go knew nothing, a naive kind of thinking Young-dal scoffs at. Her kidnapping was definitely Myung-jae’s doing, which means he’s teamed up with Chairman Go.

Detective has a guess on where Jung-hee might be held captive, but he warns Dong-soo against infiltrating the location on his own. Dong-soo assures him that he won’t. While Jang-soo belatedly hears about Jung-hee’s kidnapping, Young-dal gets some advice from Shin-hye on how to proceed, though we don’t get to hear what that is.

Meanwhile, Jung-hee finally meets her captor Myung-jae, who tsks at her—this is the unfortunate consequence for dating the wrong guy. Then we interrupt this dramatic moment to focus on this short PPL close-up.

Evidently Shin-hye’s advice turns out to be the same words Young-dal’s been hearing all day: Stay calm, don’t act first, and don’t show any sign of weakness because his enemy could use that against him. Furthermore, giving into the kidnapper’s demands will only make Jung-hee’s rescue more difficult.

So when Young-dal gets an incoming call from Jung-hee’s phone, his thumb hovers over the screen. He’s clearly conflicted on what to do, but then musters up the courage to pick up.

Oh thank god—it’s Jung-hee’s voice on the other end of the line. Even though hearing her panicky, fearful cries trouble him, Young-dal does his best to sound as detached as possible. Myung-jae takes over the call, but he falls at getting any kind of concern out of Young-dal.

It’s a good thing this conversation isn’t a video call because while we can see how Young-dal’s bothered expression betrays his gruff replies, neither Jung-hee nor Myung-jae can. His eyes start to fill with tears as he tells Myung-jae that he doesn’t have a girlfriend, so Myung-jae can feel free to do whatever he wants.

Having to listen to Jung-hee’s intensified terror and desperate pleas to come and save her eventually become too much for Young-dal to take. He wipes away his tears as he’s forced to grit out words he doesn’t mean: that Jung-hee means nothing to him.

Jung-hee can hardly believe what she’s hearing even as Young-dal spells it out for her: “Do you think I’m the same lowlife who used to chase you?” Now he’s a big-time exec who can’t be held back like a casino dealer like her. It’s only after Young-dal hangs up first does he beat himself up for the callous words he didn’t mean, holding back angry tears.

Myung-jae looks legitimately confused at his stone-hearted words while Jung-hee sobs. He isn’t happy with his informant Top Dog (ah, so he’d squealed about Young-dal’s relationship with Jung-hee) but neither is he willing to let go of their hostage just yet.

Yang-ha, meanwhile, beelines it for Chairman Go’s office to demand Jung-hee’s release. He’s not having any of Go’s excuses today, though a brief flicker of surprise passes over his eyes at the mention of his affections for Jung-hee.

Yang-ha growls that he won’t forgive him if something should happen to her, adding that Chairman Go will keep that in mind lest he wants to lose his stake in Daejung’s casino and resort.

When Go uses the card that Yang-ha doesn’t have the authority to pull such threats anymore, Yang-ha calls those mere rumors and declares this at the end of their dealings together. But Chairman Go asks how he’ll face Young-dal if Jung-hee goes free, to which Yang-ha offers a gift—in exchange for leaving Young-dal to him, Yang-ha will give Chairman Go a stake in the deal struck with Myungahnsoo Group.

That does the trick to secure Jung-hee’s release, and Yang-ha finds her shaken and alone, but unharmed. He unties her and asks if she’s okay, concern written on his face. She nods.

Gently wiping a tear from her cheek, Yang-ha draws her into a comforting hug. And… is it just me or does Jung-hee look like she’s having second thoughts about him? Um, maybe it’s just because she’s been through a traumatic experience.

That intimate moment is cut short, however, when Manbong arrives with his crew and mistakes Yang-ha for the kidnapper, only for Jung-hee to clarify the situation. Did Young-dal send Manbong over to rescue her?

He must have, since he paces nervously in his office. He’s utterly relieved to hear that Jung-hee is safe now, though he doesn’t know that Yang-ha got there first. Infuriated by how Top Dog has betrayed them, Boss Min issues the order for him to be found.

Yang-ha drops Jung-hee off at home, telling her take some time off work. Even in her exhaustion, Jung-hee says she’ll be back soon and turns to leave, but Yang-ha stops her to tell her to think of this whole situation as a bad dream and put it behind her.

“It’s such a relief that I can wake up from this bad dream,” she replies wearily. As Yang-ha sends her on her way, neither he nor Jung-hee are aware that Young-dal is standing just around the corner.

As soon as Jung-hee’s alone in her room, she slumps to the ground and breaks down in a new wave of tears, recalling Young-dal harsh words versus his sincerity. As for Young-dal, he broods and drinks alone, remembering Jung-hee’s wishes for his life and her desperate pleas over the phone.

Yang-ha lives to see another day as Daejung Group’s heir thanks to securing that deal with Myungahnsoo Group. He smirks to see Young-dal losing a little respect (and patience) with Chairman Yoon, and dismisses Director Hyun’s worries that Hanchang Group is becoming a bigger threat.

Young-dal calls up Jang-soo asking if there’s any other way to curry favor with Chairman Yoon. Jang-soo doesn’t know of any, but Young-dal picks up an interesting tidbit: Chairman Yoon and Sung are in talks of an arranged marriage between their children (Jiyeon and Yang-ha).

Director Hyun takes the concerned approach with Jiyeon (her name’s Yoo-jin, but for consistency, we’ll stick with Jiyeon), saying how it bothers him how she’s just being used by Yang-ha.

Madame Jang and her lackey are barred from entering Daejung Casino. Ah, was this her plan to net some Daejung VIPs? Boss Yang tells them not to worry—he’ll pull some strings since his son’s on payroll here. But Jang-soo just waves them away later.

Young-dal and his buddies put their heads together to come up with something, anything before they’re made fools of by Chairman Yoon. Since Yang-ha went behind their backs, they’ll just repay the favor in kind, Young-dal figures. But he doesn’t say how.

Myung-jae pays a surprise visit to Boss Min’s, and the two exchange terse pleasantries before she tells him to cut to the chase. Like he told Young-dal, he has a similar warning for Boss Min and Manbong: to stop supporting Young-dal and walk away.

Neither Boss Min and Manbong intend to do anything of the sort. They’re awesome.

Yang-ha can barely hide his happiness when he receives a dinner invite from Jung-hee. She runs into Young-dal on her way over, and awww, Young-dal even looks happy to see her. Still angry, she walks past him.

Yang-ha is beyond excited about their plebian outing, though she says it’s to repay him for saving her. Nearby, Young-dal looks on with a forlorn expression. This feels like a repeat from Episode 12.

As Jiyeon spots Yang-ha leaving the building with Jung-hee, she recalls how Director Hyun told her specifically whom Yang-ha has feelings for: Jung-hee.

When Young-dal meets up with Jiyeon later, he’s surprised to hear that she already knows about both his current corporate and past gangster reputation.

Somehow Shin-hye’s social network surpasses anyone else in this show, because she sits down with Yang-ha’s right-hand man. She knows that he was responsible for Yang-ha’s adoption process. And perhaps for the first time in this show, she doesn’t get the info she wants because someone tells her that she’s poking her nose into people’s personal lives.

Shin-hye, however, finds this all too convenient and tells Dong-soo that she knows who his baby brother Dong-woo is. But… you don’t have even have any solid evidence!

Still, it doesn’t stop her from telling him that Chairman Yoon was the one who adopted Dong-woo. In other words: “Yoon Yang-ha is Jang Dong-woo.”

COMMENTS

Seriously, seriously Shin-hye?! Even if I know you’re right about the Jang brothers, you still manage to find ways to blow my mind whenever you state presumptions as fact. Sigh. (punches a pillow). On the teensy upside when it comes to Shin-hye, though: It was about time that someone told her no and that her meddling does no one any good, even if she is the resident character who runs around collecting information for the show.

For what it’s worth, I’d been wondering how much longer we’d needed to wait for either Dong-soo and Young-dal to find out about baby bro’s current identity and whereabouts. So while I’m not exactly thrilled at such a swift execution within the last few minutes, things are going to shake up between our three Jang brothers soon. If we spend time seeing all the brainstorming for future secret plans actually being executed than being given more brainstorming sessions, that is. To that end, I can tell that Triangle is asking for my patience once more while it brews up more conflict in the latter course of its run. We found out that Young-dal didn’t anticipate that Yang-ha would intervene in his business plans this round, and although I want to trust that Young-dal’s semi-secret strategy will be clever, I also miss the Young-dal who told us his thought processes so that we can anticipate for the future with him.

Basically, I’m hoping that the payoffs for all this setup comes ’round soon, because right now these pair of episodes feel like two steps backwards and one step forward in terms of progression. It might be why I couldn’t feel as scared or panicked for Jung-hee when she was kidnapped, especially when we got some random baddie we were supposed to be scared of in Myung-jae Hyungnim but weren’t because he seemed to pop out of thin air. So then at least twenty minutes of this hour was devoted to see every character who needed to know about Jung-hee’s kidnapping find out about her kidnapping. Still, it was Young-dal’s conversation with Jung-hee that remains a standout moment—we could see how much it pained him to be so harsh at Jung-hee to buy just a little more time. And although he had to act tougher than her kidnapper at the time, his actions (and expressions) still show that he does indeed care for her.

And because Jung-hee had fought for their relationship multiple times, even while she was held captive, I could also identify how betrayed she would feel by Young-dal. It still doesn’t make me feel any better about her rekindling a friendship with Yang-ha (that’s hopefully out of gratitude and nothing else, because I love our couple) which almost feels like lather, rinse, and repeat at this point in the game. Maybe the truth that youngest bro has been unknowingly trying to take down his hyungs will break him out of his reverie. Or maybe we should let the boyish crazy man enjoy his moment. For now.

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1 Lizzz

July 4, 2014 at 4:34 AM

The DalHee relationship has finally encounter its first real situation of danger. While I do understand and support Youngdal's actions during the kidbapper's call scene, I don't get why he doesn't explain himself later. Is he giving up on their relationship for real? :( I cannot with this.

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Lizzz

July 4, 2014 at 4:40 AM

This isn't related to this episode, but I still wanted to share it.
It sometime surprises me how connected the actors can get to the scene they are playing. This kind of made me cry too.

http://youtu.be/LKFi_ST-9pE

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Belen

July 4, 2014 at 6:12 AM

That's a sad view, but it happens. Actually, it seems like Jaejoong himself was gave in adoption by his own mother too. Probably all his feelings collided just there.

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Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 7:23 AM

If I recall correctly Yoochun has said Jaejoong doesn't stop crying once he starts so that probably adds to it!

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alua

July 4, 2014 at 7:23 AM

Wahhhhh. Someone should have given him a hug! Or patted him on the back at least....

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lyla

July 4, 2014 at 4:55 AM

i think this is what young dal want...make jung hee stay away from him , this is the most important battle for him no one can make sure jung hee will safe again and by the way last time young dal can't said he dislike jung hee just like what jung hee want in young dal room but end up with back hug lol but now he did that and in cruel situation...

i think its better for jung hee if she stay away from young dal maybe she can go to vegas and when young dal finish the battle then jung hee can back like an awesome women lol

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Lizzz

July 4, 2014 at 6:46 PM

I believe Junhee is already an awesome woman, but yeah I get what you mean. She can always be better.
Yes. I get the reasons behind Youngdal's behavior, but I don't think that giving up on their relationship is the best decision. It will never be.

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selia

July 4, 2014 at 5:32 AM

I think, until he has some of this "problems" sorted out, he is not gonna reach for her.
She is safe now, but if the bad guys know he cares that much she will be a target in the future.

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Belen

July 4, 2014 at 5:52 AM

He wants to protect her. That's a fact, but you are right. Either he is really giving up on their relationship like for real now or he does feel confident enough to take her love back when all this mess passes.
It may get worse when he finds out the truth about Yangha being his brother. I have the feeling that he won't have the heart to deny anything to his baby brother.

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Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 6:30 AM

Yeah, aside from the present conflict it seems that YD might feel so guilty about letting his brother be taken away that he willingly gives up getting Jung Hee back.

Very curious as to how the next episodes go as I still get the feeling that Dalhee will end up together.

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Belen

July 4, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Exactly. I don't think he will be able to go against his brother. That's just not like him at all.

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Helen

July 4, 2014 at 7:34 AM

"I have the feeling that he won’t have the heart to deny anything to his baby brother"

All hell will break loose when they discover they are brothers... and Junhee is going to be in the middle of all that. I wonder what her thoughts will be when he finds out that she is the main reason why 2 brothers have grown to hate each other so much.

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Lizzz

July 4, 2014 at 6:49 PM

This. Yangha won't have to do anything at all. I'm pretty sure Youngdal won't have the heart to go against the brother he feels the most guilty about.

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alua

July 4, 2014 at 7:00 AM

By keeping with the lie and hiding his feelings (and denying their relationship), he'll keep her safe, for now.

I do think she at least have an inkling – like that he might have lied to protect her. And, knowing him well enough, strength to believe in him, even in the face of rejection.

Even if she doesn't, I hope her feelings for Yang-ha haven't changed at all. I wouldn't find it compelling, because if her feelings for Young-dal were real, they shouldn't change in an instant, and even if she thinks what he said was true, she should be struggling with feelings of heartbreak, not thinking about Yang-ha.

Gratefulness yes, a polite thank-you dinner, but not any 'second thoughts'.

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2 Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 4:50 AM

I guess Youngdal is even more determined to keep Junghee out of his revenge battle now that some harm is actually inflicted on her because of him. He might think he could explain everything to her once it's over.

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Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 5:23 AM

This was meant as a reply to @Lizzz.

I seriously need sleep.

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Lizzz

July 4, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Hopefully he does have a plan. I already miss DalHee :(

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3 Pungpung

July 4, 2014 at 4:53 AM

Youngdal has time to comb his hair and pick out a new outfit while his girlfriend is in danger? Only in kdrama.

Only in kdrama where you'll see Dongsoo is fine after a coma and JungHee is fine the next day after a traumatic abduction. Though I kind of hope that she'd be traumatic so Shinhye can treat her as well.

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lyla

July 4, 2014 at 5:02 AM

i'm glad jung hee is as strong girl she even show that to yang ha after the kidnapped and thanks that they don't make her into a week and traumatic girlfriend who keep craying and scared...

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Pungpung

July 4, 2014 at 5:12 AM

She is a strong girl, but in real life no one can really get up and go to work the next day after suddently getting abducted, tied up in a dark room for 24 hours and have gangsters coming to touch your face out of your will and call your boyfriend to threaten him using you as bait, only to have him disappoint you by calling up a break up.

It sounds romantic in drama since you can tell he was 'saving' her but in real life, she'd be dead even if he breaks up with her. Gangsters in real life aren't generous.

Then again, this is a kdrama, enjoy your drama.

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Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 5:29 AM

"It sounds romantic in drama since you can tell he was ‘saving’ her but in real life, she’d be dead even if he breaks up with her."

I was thinking this too. But apparently, Shinhye reigns over this drama so all her advices must be heeded as absolute laws and orders.

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PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 5:53 AM

She won't be dead before the gangsters get what they want but she could be seriously harmed physically.
Anyway this is KDramaland why the gangsters are polite with ladies and do nothing but make empty threats over the phone and get hung over as a conclusion.

JH is a strong girl, so strong that she could stand on her feet the moment she was rescued,gave back a tight hug with Yangha,protected him with her hand from Manbong,and walked away fast without evident sense of exhaustion.

I just started to wonder why she cried so hard alone when no signs of danger appear in the last 12 hours.

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lyla

July 4, 2014 at 7:00 AM

"JH is a strong girl, so strong that she could stand on her feet the moment she was rescued,gave back a tight hug with Yangha,protected him with her hand from Manbong,and walked away fast without evident sense of exhaustion."

this is what i see from her, i though she gonna be in a bad trauma but she can even protect yang ha and when she is save and back to her room she cry again just because he remember young dal word not the fear and the trauma....lol i don't know if in a real life this kind person exists but who know...after all in the end we talk about kdrama and only in kdrama...lol

anyway, she cry because she scared , she should know something like this will happen to her if she with young dal, and i think young dal already make some plan with help from dong soo looking for the place, manbong in rescue yang ha in negotiation with the real enemy here and young dal in "pyscology battle" lol..

Belen

July 4, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Hahaha~

"I just started to wonder why she cried so hard alone when no signs of danger appear in the last 12 hours"

Well, she didn't cry out of tiredness. She cried because of Youngdal's words. She wasn't in harm anymore so she had more time to think about that and yeah her heart broke.

PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 7:09 PM

@Belen

Sorry,my English is poor.
I wasn't refering to her cry at home after she was rescued.I was refering to her loud and frightened cry in the 12 hours when she seated alone in the underground place while nobody came up to harm or even talk bad to her.

lyla

July 4, 2014 at 6:43 AM

lol thanks this my drama i will enjoy, and for sure this is not your drama and i even doubting you like kdrama, since you keep saying the same thing...only in kdrama...lol ridiculous thing always happen kdrama..can't stand this..feel free to stop watching...

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alua

July 4, 2014 at 7:17 AM

It doesn't matter how strong she is.

I did Search & Rescue in high school. Once, the people we searched for were found dead and we had to carry them out (covered bodies). Afterwards, EVERYONE, the professionals, the voluntary students, etc. had some post-traumatic counselling session before they let us get back to real life. Some of the people that broke down were the ones you thought were the strongest.

You just don't go back-to-business after extreme, life-threatening situations. Not even people who have experience or were trained for such situations do. Jung-hee doesn't need to be crying, but kidnap/one hug/ one good night's sleep /and it's as if nothing every happened is not realistic. Well, maybe it will hit her later. (If I were Yang-ha, I'd be concerned if they just have a happy-smily dinner, but then again Yang-ha has some issues that might make him not realise that such a thing would not be normal.)

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Orion

July 4, 2014 at 5:02 AM

"Though I kind of hope that she’d be traumatic so Shinhye can treat her as well."

You get a treatment, you get a treatment, everyone gets a treatment!

If Shin Hye had been this prolific since Episode 1, this would have been a drama special. Give her 2-4 episodes and she'll have cured everyone, reunited everyone with their brothers, parents, childhood sweethearts, cats and dogs and probably also brought about world peace and found God.

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Pungpung

July 4, 2014 at 5:06 AM

By the end of this show, we all will be treated by Hwang Shin Hye, alumni and valedictorian of Kdrama Academy of Genius.

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lyla

July 4, 2014 at 5:07 AM

i think there's something wrong/off when suddenly shin hye know yang ha is dong woo when the man who know about yang ha process adopted didn't tell her or...maybe there's gonna be flashback in next episode why she knew that...suddenly ..in rational way...lol

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Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 5:36 AM

She deducts that since the secretary (?) man wants to hide Yangha's babyhood before the adoption, Yangha must no doubt be Dongsoo long lost baby brother who is, wait for it, ADOPTED too. (Since we all know there can only be one person adopted in each drama.)

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Belen

July 4, 2014 at 5:57 AM

LOL
She could have been Dr Miracle, but she isn't that efficient.

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kecik

July 4, 2014 at 5:29 AM

Then Shin-hye will tell Jung-hee about what Young-dal had done to safe her....
I think next target to blackmail Dong-soo will be Shin-hye herself..

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4 lyla

July 4, 2014 at 5:11 AM

i think young dal will use jiyeon for take the revenge to yang ha...he said something like backstabing yang ha back...and if this is happened before he know yang ha is his bro..i can't imagine young dal feel..he already feel so guilty because he can't protect his bro

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Belen

July 4, 2014 at 7:21 AM

All this comes and goes between Youngdal and Yangha will get back to them and hit when they discover the truth.

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5 Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 5:20 AM

Thank you for the recap.

Episode 18 wasn't as bad as I expected from reading comments, though there are some pointless scenes at the casino dealers lounge after Junghee's abduction.

I like Youngdal's scene in the car talking nonchalantly to Mr. Kidnapper while his eyes are crying blood and tears. Jaejoong is good in scenes required intense emotions, the kinds that are easily underdone or worse, overdone by actors with limited experience and training like himself.

I totally understand why Junghee gives Youngdal the cold shoulder given what she's been through (I would punch him if I were in her shoes, and I am not a violent person at all). Her only fault is being persistent in her involvement with Youngdal while maintaining completely ignorant about who Youngdal is up against and what those despicable man are capable of.

Shinhye is really a demigoddess who guards over both boredom and unattainable ability to obtain the truth from vague assumptions. I almost believe we need to worship her.

I think I have more to say but I need sleep for my thoughts to be coherent. And France vs. Germany in a few hours. :D

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Helen

July 4, 2014 at 7:44 AM

"I like Youngdal’s scene in the car talking nonchalantly to Mr. Kidnapper while his eyes are crying blood and tears"

That was probably my favorite scene in this episode. I do agree with you, Jaejoong was pretty good there showing frustration and sadness while at the same time keeping a steady voice. Jinhee was good too, you could almost feel his fear and desperation.

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6 Maria

July 4, 2014 at 5:40 AM

This episode was physically painful for me to watch. I have no idea how I'd act if I was kidnaped, but when Jung-Hee was in the warehouse for a good minute ALONE and kept crying someone save me and clearly getting no response, I kept yelling please try to move!!! Hop the chair over behind the pillar, inch it, make it fall over, do something other than just sit there and cry. It would have made the actual kidnapping much more bearable.

I also know she was terrified and traumatized, and I totally get where her anger is coming from. BUT, seriously?!!!! How many times has Dae-Gu warned her about these upcoming dangers and how he will have to act despicable for quite a while longer. How many times has he told her how much she means to him that he can't risk dragging her down to his level?!! That embrace? I applaud her rejection of his rejection, but Jung- Hee, you kept saying you'd watch over and protect him, and now that you got the first actual conflict ......?

And fucking Yang-Ha!!!! Damn it, who gave Go a piece of the pie KNOWING he was a murderer?! The lackey may have been targeting Dae-Gu but YOU were the one who hired the man he was indebted to. And you would have never been able to get to Jung-Hee if it weren't for Dae-Gu giving you the critical information that linked those two thugs together!

And it ticks me off to no end to see him rush in and rescue her acting as if he's a badass against these gangsters and taking all the credit. Dae-Gu was the one who swallowed his pride and called a temporary ceasefire despite his underhanded back stabs. And seeing him go out with Jung Hee, with that smug shit faced grin? It makes me want to knee him in the balls and slap her with a white glove! Seriously Jung Hee, you wonder why he is so fixated on you? Because you DO things, like go with him to casinos to learn how to bet, or now dinner, and for FUCKS sake whenever he starts his poor little unloved rich boy spiel walk the fuck AWAY!!!! Cold-hearted ness be damned. STOP hearing him out!!!! I mean geez, he talks about taking your feelings for someone else like their a prize. He fucking PROPOSED ( or at least said he would eventually) to you when you haven't even been on an actual consensual date. That in and of itself should have creeped you out and sent you running at the sight of him.

I often waver between completely hating Yang Ha, especially the scenes where he's a baby looking so adorable. But right now, I'm so mad at this upheaval of DaeHee's relationship that I want hope he lands in a padded room when he finds out about his brothers.

Rich Girl with the bangs, you're not my favorite character, but for the love of DaeHee, do whatever it takes to get Yang Ha (except hurting Jung Hee) abduct him in a creeper van. Chain him to an anchor, stalk and obsess over him; let him get a taste of his own medicine for once and see how he likes it! Do something! Dig your manicured nails into his heart and don't you dare let go!

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selia

July 4, 2014 at 5:45 AM

You are kidnapped, waiting for someone please someone save me
your boyfriend basically told them to do whatever they wanted that you are not important to him.
Then somehow someone you know came on and rescue you, someone who even if it was some creepy way has told you he has feelings for you, tried to help you and now is the light in such a darkness...
Tell me what do you think she should do?

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Maria

July 4, 2014 at 6:50 AM

Yeah, but in this drama world where Shin Hye can get away with breaking every ethical guideline AND magically connect all the breadcrumbs together, one could assume that she was alone for hours when no one was sight when she kept screaming!! Try to formulate something.

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Maria

July 4, 2014 at 7:32 AM

I'm not saying I wouldn't accept his help, but even still I'm not sure that I personally would see him as a beacon of glory light. I also don't know if I would be able to hang out with him like normal knowing his what he wants and his actions. I'd be grateful, but ... maybe it's because as a viewer I know how he acts when alone and it's the frustrating idea that you know what underhanded things he's done and you know that she doesn't know, and the fact that you know that she doesn't know about what you know as the viewer makes me want to jump into the TV like Blues Clues and wave a banner that says: News Flash! He threw YD in Jail!!!

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Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 5:54 AM

Who is Dae-Gu?

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Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 6:12 AM

Reading the comment it seems like s/he means Young Dal / Dong Chul.

I'm curious about where Dae Gu came from haha

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Orion

July 4, 2014 at 6:16 AM

'You Are All Surrounded' is my guess. :P

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Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 6:19 AM

I know who she meant but I was curious too, haha. Because if we are giving pet name to "Dae-Gu" I want to join the fun. :D

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Maria

July 4, 2014 at 6:58 AM

Lol YES let's!!!!! If our head evil man can be branded as a cabbage patch doll, then let's give him a nickname.

I propose "Dal-Dae-Gu" or something that blends them together. Thoughts?

Maria

July 4, 2014 at 6:42 AM

LOL Geez Maria fail!! I've been running on like no sleep. Young Dal. Lol I should only watch one drama at a time. Dae Gu and Young Dal are both undeniably amazing as main characters. You're all surrounded what have you done to my brain?!

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alua

July 4, 2014 at 7:47 AM

I'm not going to judge anyone on how they act (or don't) in an extreme situation like a kidnapping with a threat on your life. You don't know how you'll react in a situation like that, even if you have been warned of the danger.

Yang-ha... well, he's got some serious issues. It's infuriating, but in line with his character. And in line with Young-dal's not try and correct the situation because he wants Jung-hee safe.

Jung-hee... I can buy the gratefulness right after the kidnapping, but the rest... that's typical kdrama. Of course she should have avoided him pretty much from the moment she rejected him and he kept pursuing him, but this is how dramas often create conflict in a sadly contrived manner. I really, really hope they don't make her doubt her feelings and shift her sympathy towards Yang-ha.

Maybe we can pretend that she's ignoring Young-dal know because she has realised what he's doing to keep her safe? (It would be painful for both, though I would prefer that to a scenario where she's possibly developing feelings for Yang-ha instantly after a break-up with the one she firmly believed in up to now.)

Mostly, I just want her to keep it firmly platonic with Yang-ha, without anyone else needing to intervene (rich girl included). Because it does require someone else, I'm just not going to be able to believe in the JH/YD's love when they do end up together. Plus, YH needs to sort out some issues before he is in a relationship with anyone else. But I don't think dramas have got that memo yet that love rivals don't need end up with someone else in every single story.

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alua

July 4, 2014 at 7:52 AM

Damn for all the typos.

*pursuing her
*if it does
*drama writers have got that memo

I was typing and eating at the same time, if that's any excuse. x_X

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krista

July 4, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Umm if someone kidnapped me, and then I was rescued by someone, I don't think I'd be freaking out over who should take "credit" for saving me...and it's true YD told YH about Go's involvement, but it was YH who convinced Go to let JH go, and it was he who went there to go get her. Him being there was not all thanks to YD. They BOTH did their part to rescue her, and if YD really loves her and is the perfect dude you make him out to be, then he shouldn't be worrying about who gets the "credit." All he should care about is that she's safe.

As for it being all Yang-ha's fault she was kidnapped...um...no. Just because he worked with Go does NOT make it his fault. YD worked with Go in the past, and she was kidnapped to get at YD, not at YH. You can't blame it all on YH just because you don't like him as a character.

When it comes down to it, YD will forgive YH and cease his revenge because YH is his baby bro. No one is going to be in a padded room, since it isn't actually the 1960s anymore.

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Daisy

July 4, 2014 at 7:10 PM

“ if YD really loves her and is the perfect dude you make him out to be, then he shouldn’t be worrying about who gets the “credit.” All he should care about is that she’s safe.”

YD haven't been worried about “credit” at all ,from beginning to end. Indeed ,he just cared about her safety.
So he say nothing. YD is a fool . He made me have a heartache for him.

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7 selia

July 4, 2014 at 5:40 AM

The abduction. Ah. no comments.
JH reaction is expected, I don't know why people criticize her.
As for YD, even if it breaks us, he better keep his distance from JH at least for now, until it's safe.
Let's see what happens next episode.

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PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 6:05 AM

Her action was expected when she was on the phone.But before or after that?
I thought she was a strong girl who at least met some bad boys.Why she acted so freaked out and weak even when nobody showed up to harm her,or when the gangsters were three meters away giving no threatening gesture or words at all?
And her strength and mind suddenly came back when the danger was removed.
I seriously doubt if this was a bad writing or directing or acting.Cos I just couldn't feel her love for Youngdal even before all this cliche kidnapping thing happened.

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Pungpung

July 4, 2014 at 6:18 AM

I would considered the aftermath of that scene as kdramaland's logics to get the scene over with and the plot rolling. Because Baek Jin Hee was very believable in her cries. And honestly I would cry like her if I'm in that situation. That scene was saved by her and Jaejoong, she made it convincing that she's in danger and is traumatize. When one is traumatized one can't think thoroughly of what to do, and instinct comes in. And he was very convincing that he was on edge but can't do anything. If one of them fail that scene, it would be pretty hilarious to watch. Just imagine Triangle was acted out by the rest of Dr Jin cast and Jaejoong plays YangHa while SSH plays YD and PMY plays JungHee, then put SSH and PMY in that scene.

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Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 6:49 AM

Oh no I didn't need to imagine that but I just did..
*Cringe laughing*

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kecik

July 4, 2014 at 6:54 AM

gah!! I can't watch any drama and movie with PMY and SSH in it. I'm happy enough with Jaejoong acting~ hee and also our idol whisperer LBS-nim~

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pigsnout

July 4, 2014 at 6:55 AM

Hahaha Dr Jin.....SSH playing Young Dal could actually have happened, he was offered the role before Jaejoong.

I have never been so glad an actor turned a role down. Thank god.

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PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 7:00 AM

Your comparison is interesting,but I guess PMY will most probably give a better show. Though PMY played an annoying character in Dr.Jin,she still presented her character as consistently tender,determined,and tough as can be. Junghee is on the contrary.She is supposed to be tough,brave and considerate.But what Bae Jinhee shows us is a girl who is determined and reasonable at one time, and then wavering,gentle and careless at other times.Her character is strong on the appearance but weak and inconsistent throughout the drama.

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Orion

July 4, 2014 at 7:32 AM

That is not necessarily an issue of the actress though. What you are describing are character traits. If she is asked to seem wavering or worried, she acts that out. If that is what the PD or writer want or all she can manage with lacking material, then it is not her own issue.

The problem is, actors know how to act better than PDs or writers, so unless you let the actor do what they feel is best, it can fall apart. Guidance is good, to bring out the best from an actor. Demands are not. They stifle them.

The writing has major issues in this drama, so it looks the actors are just doing what they can with what is given. Which, for most characters in this aside from Yeong Dal, is sadly not enough.

I personally have not been impressed by Baek here, but Jung Hee's character inconsistencies are not necessarily her own fault, that's my point.

PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 9:02 AM

My personal opinion is the inconsistency in this character is caused mainly by the writer,then the actor,finally the filming and editing.

Junghee's is kind of bounded by her original appearance and character.The way she walk is tiny swift steps with a gentlely reserved posture.She liked to smooth her hair to the side with her head slightly leaning while walking.And her normal talking pitch is a little childlike and the speed is slow.Except when she was agnry,her voice is sweet,sometimes sounds like pouting.Bae Jinhee is a cute girl with a slim tiny figure,which tends to make a princess image intead of a tough upbring or the head of a family.
(Same here for Yangha.He was so tiny that I can't take him seriously when he walked or talked angrily.And he looked matched with Junghee.)

As you said,actors know how to act better than PDs or writers, so unless you let the actor do what they feel is best, it can fall apart.

There are some scenes that I think if she could act more detailed,the chemistry between her and YD would be more sparkling.Like the scene YD was ill and Grandma asked JH to buy some medicine for him.She acted not quite concerned about his condition.
There are other scenes that could be tuned down a little,like the scene when she found herself alone trapped and tied up.Her crying was too loud.If I was kidnapped to a strange place I would more likely to keep myself invisible so as not to draw attention from unkown dangerous man instead crying out loud for such a long time.If she just showed frighten on her face and looked around ,sob quitely,that would be more convincing without tuning down the exciting level.

Maria

July 4, 2014 at 6:54 AM

Thank you! There that's what I meant. On the phone, totally legit reaction. But before? Sigh...

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Belen

July 4, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Well, she isn't the usual weak female lead. She doesn't behave like your usual girl in love. I suppose the way she shows her Love is with care.

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Ruirui

July 6, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Hmm, so I'm not the only one who feel that the lack of chemistry come form JH, I can't feel her love for YD too, even when she said her feeling to him. Is it directing or acting problem? I sense the 'spark' more YD with noonim and even the new girl character (YJ) even they just meet.But offscreen they are more have chemistry, but on screen, kind off lack, and it's come from JH.

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Helen

July 4, 2014 at 7:52 AM

"As for YD, even if it breaks us, he better keep his distance from JH at least for now, until it’s safe"

Unpopular opinion, but you're right. It's for the best. Still, I'm praying to dramagods for a miracle that can save DalHee.

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8 KDaddict

July 4, 2014 at 6:04 AM

What I find really strange is how at the end of this ep, psychologist suddenly decides that she knows YH is the baby brother. Like seriously!

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Maria

July 4, 2014 at 7:23 AM

And by the secretary no less! It's always the quiet secretaries that possess these nuggets of knowledge!

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Belen

July 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM

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9 Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 6:17 AM

What bothered me about Jung Hee's response to the abduction wasn't so much that it was unreasonable, but that it seems out of character. So far the series has presented us with a female lead who has had a tough upbringing and is now head of the family. In the first episodes we see her slap Young Dal for mishandling her (never to be seen again) brother and later stand up for her colleagues who were bullied by their seniors. Knowing this and the fact that she's told YD that she wants to look out for him despite seeing firsthand the type of trouble he's been in kind of suggests that she isn't one who would cry and beg, not at least without a fight.

I don't mean to downplay the scariness of the situation, I just wonder if the character's suffering and reaction was used in this episode as a device to heighten the conflict between the pairing and make out YH to be a hero. It feels very artificial to me.

Also when Man Bong stroll into the warehouse it's strange how she doesn't react to them. I mean she doesn't know if they're friend or foe, and YangHa isn't going to be much protection...

I personally understand Young Dal's decision not to approach her after the abduction. Telling her the reasons for his behaviour and then following up with, 'now you see why we can't be together' isn't ideal. He may have given her that hug last episode but I read it as a genuine response in the moment type of thing that happened in private. He probably underestimated the possibility of someone actually kidnapping her. Now that it has happened, he knows she is in real danger especially should they continue to interact in public. He has already told her he can't ask her to wait, so going up to her, apologising, explaining then saying goodbye would be cruel, as much as leaving her to believe those words is also cruel.

I would rather the one I love be free than be under a lingering hope that if enough time passes we can reunite.

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Maria

July 4, 2014 at 7:38 AM

I agree with the last part. I'd want someone I love to be happy, and even if it's not ultimately with me, they should be with someone who will.

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10 Pungpung

July 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM

Out of snarks mind, back to some discussions for the sake of a kdrama.

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What I don't understand is mostly why do people think JungHee will go to YH just because he saved her? JH felt gratitude for him to be there, it make sense to me for her to treat him to dinner. And let's not forget, JungHee is left out of a lot of things in this story. Yet people are expecting her to be wise and a know-it-all to understand what YoungDal did. She is not ShinHye, she does not yield the power of kdramaland knowledge for the plot of Triangle. Leave the poor girl alone, her boyfriend broke up with her when she was in the middle of life and death. The man that she loves knows she's in danger but decided to leave her to the wolves.

Though I joked that she went to work the next day looking fine, but she broke down right after she came home and it seemed that she is still confused and angry at him and is trying to find something to do to get that thought out of her mind. Of course this is just the ending of ep 18, we need next week to see how she acts. For now, I'll just say she is putting up a front. She is going to be seeing him in the casino often, love and affections don't go away in just a day even after something traumatic as that.

I see a lot of people, kdrama watchers on viki and other places are blaming Jung Hee for eating a dinner with YangHa or being nice to him? Why is it her fault? She is a nice girl since the beginning, I mean she went and date YoungDal when he's known to be a gangster. Blame YangHa for being a creep and not knowing how to respect her, actually this kid seemed to not understand 'friendzone'? Girls can be nice to men that they don't have romantic feelings for. Maybe tell the men to stop thinking everything as a 'flirt' and 'leading' them on. Also, just because she's with YD doesn't mean that she's not allow to go with another guy to dinner, don't bar the girl from hanging out with anyone she wants to be friends with, we're in 2014 not 1960's.

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pigsnout

July 4, 2014 at 7:14 AM

Seriously I agree with every word you said. Why blame Jung Hee for wanting to thank Yang Ha for saving her life, did we all forget that they became friends during the year Young Dal spent in jail? It is Yang Ha's fault if he is incapable of understanding that she had no romantic feelings for him, NOT hers!

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PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 7:26 AM

You bring a point!
Junghee and Yangha became friends while Youngdal spent his time in jail wishing for another visit from Junghee.Poor boy.
I don't know if they're real friends or not though,cos in Madam Jang's eyes,Junghee obviously had a thing with Yangha.Junghee was too careless to notice the close leaning of Yangha?What a naughty girl she is.
Then,when Youngdal came back.Everything changed.Suddenly Junghee is no friend to Yangha any more with no reason.She acted so nerved up with the gossip that Yangha would go to LA with her.The way she talked to Yangha in the office is pure hostility and rejection.
Why suddenly so cold to Yanha?

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pogo

July 4, 2014 at 8:50 AM

....so Jang Madame's impression of her allowing him to lean in to show her the ropes at a baccarat table, as a friend, is somehow an indication of romantic interest that overrides literally every word that has ever come out of Jung-hee's own mouth when it comes to her feelings for Yang-ha? And it makes her a 'naughty girl'?

Why suddenly so cold to Yanha?

I don't know, maybe because he was supposed to be her friend but put her on the spot by basically implying to the whole casino staff - her workplace, btw - that they were dating. And then told her he was going to propose to her despite the fact that Jung-hee has always been clear that she doesn't have those kind of feelings for him.

It was Yang-ha who damaged that friendship by trying to force it to be something more, just saying.

Don't get me wrong, in a different drama and if Yang-ha was less selfish I'd have shipped them. But this is not that drama.

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PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Maybe we just have different opinion on girls reactions towards boys.
Madam Jang's impression is also my impression as an audience.She didn't notice Yangha's intimate posture.And that make her looked careless or naughty.
Maybe she was just used to talk with boys that way and think it's normal(which I think not).

About Junghee's attitude towards Yangha,you made a good point.She was annoyed by his trick.But the way she talked with Yangha in that office from the start showed no intention of communication at all. The happy talk previous in the casino just gave me impression that they were quite close friend.But then she didn't express her concern in a friendly way,but rejected coldly.

They're all small details that I think some slight adjustments would turn out differently.

We see things in different ways.So be it.Just enjoy the drama!Hope I can get over this character in the next episodes.

Maria

July 4, 2014 at 7:19 AM

It's not so much the idea that she'll go running into Yang Da's arms after one dinner, it's the idea that obsessive him will totally take this as re affirmation that they should be together. So when I say walk the fuck away, I mean look at his behavior, of course it's normal to be nice to someone and listen to their troubles, but Yang Ha is NOT normal... And I'm not saying people with depression or panic attacks shouldn't receive help or compassion. But around Jung Hee? Look at how his perfect composure changes when things don't go his way! He doesn't compute the word No! It makes my skin crawl!!! From Day 1 he was downright sketchy when he blackmailed her to comeback to his suite and drink with him! It's been underhanded tactic after another, look at how he drove her to an unknown place to talk instead of driving her where he said. If he goes that far to have a conversation with her having dinner with him ... What methods might he try to get her to keep having dinner with him?
He's not quite that unhinged but I wouldn't say he's not cutting it close.

Also, in the translations, did they explicitly say that Jung Hee and YD were boyfriend and girlfriend? Because even though their chemistry totally says it is in an unspoken way, I never thought they had officially labeled themselves that. So it's kind of weird when people say her boyfriend broke up with her if they never called themselves that to start. I thought it was more wishful thinking on their part.

Unless this is me thinking YD couldn't read rather than couldn't study all over again.

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Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 7:32 AM

Hmmm they might have never said it in words but its pretty clear that they were dating whatever label you want to put on it. We didn't spend much time on it but they went on dates and YD even went as far to insinuate her cooking for him thus living together etc in the future.

I guess viewers just assume that the guy under Boss Min who betrayed YD somehow knew that they were together or that he really cared for her openly.

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Maria

July 4, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Maybe it's because they showed us like 2 dates. I really wish they had more of a backstory on Jung Hee, am I the only person who's irked that her other brother has dropped off the face of the planet and no ones asking where or why? I want to see flashbacks of YD as a teenager, or Yang Ha as a preteen rather than just them sitting in a room talking about their past behaviors.

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Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 10:14 AM

No I agree, I've been wondering if the actor for the brother went missing or something because there's been no sight or mention of him since! I really want to see YD living on the street too, it'd be nice to see what shaped him to be how he is today, walking the line between douchebag and boychild with heart of gold. With Yangha some insight into his relationship with his adopted father would be great, but then again there are a lot of things left to be desired in this drama!

Lindy

July 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM

I so agree with you. In the first few episodes, the characters of the three brothers were so rich with potential, that of three very broken men, each coping with the damage of their heartbreaking pasts and how this damage has affected their present lives.

Dong-soo suffers from intermittent rage disorder and horrible guilt which has blighted his life. Young-dal is full of self-loathing and it seems as if he has internalized all the abuse of his childhood and youth. It's not hard to imagine what he has endured because there are many examples in real live of what happens to "throw-away" children like Young-dal. He is not just addicted to gambling and womanizing but to extremely risky behaviour and it's his way of dealing with a deep sense of shame. When he fails, as he always does, and suffers the consequences, it's because he deserves it because he's "bad". Yang-ha is suffering as well despite all his so-called advantages. He's been in treatment and on meds since his teens for anxiety and depression because he's been adopted to fill an agenda, the chairman's need for a heir, rather than to be a son.

We do see a bit of Dong-soo's backstory but nothing from his brothers except what they tell, rather than show, us. To me, this was what was really interesting and refreshing about Triangle and it's been just squandered by this plot to take over a casino or to get revenge or whatever the heck is going on. I confess to being completely lost and disinterested because the plot has been MIA to me for quite a while now. What a waste!

pogo

July 4, 2014 at 12:50 PM

hey they do mention Jung-hee's second brother by name several times, they just never show him! Even Young-dal mentions him in ep 17...it's funny because she really doesn't need to have two brothers but they just mention him for consistency's sake I guess.

But her other brother is amusing, I found it really cute how he scrambled to tell his noona that Young-dal was in the house in episode 17.

Lizzz

July 4, 2014 at 8:00 PM

OMG You read my thoughts here! I'm rooting for some scenes of their younger years. I want to see young Youngdal messing around, I want to see young Yangha acing in everything just to please his father, I want to see more of Dongsoo too!

Pungpung

July 4, 2014 at 7:47 AM

You actually don't need to label each other boyfriend and girlfriend to be known as so. Youngdal and JungHee knows their relationship as boyfriend and girlfriend, because she asked him and he retaliated by giving her a hug. This is something that YH and her doesn't do. When YH comes on, she says no, he stops. She said 'no' many times, he got friendzoned a lot. He understands this but he is stubborn and is indenial. This is the different between YD x JH and YH x JH. JH is the one to ask YD immediately what she is to him and showed him her anger when he didn't show her what she wants to see. His hugs are confirmations. She gets cheeky with him in ep 17 when he came to get his clothes by saying that he's rich now and outright saying that it's hard for her to just stand by the side and watch him, she wants to spend time with him, actively want to be with him for no reason. That is a relationship of a boyfriend and girlfriend. While when she hangs out with YH, she thinks thoroughly and only does it when it's needed for work or when she has to returns gratitude. She went to the private casino because it would help her in her competition. Madam Jang does not know that, Madam Jang sees a guy and a girl together happy playing a game and she judge and think a couple, it's actually normal and happen in real life as well.

The hug she gave YH after the kidnapped was a much needed needed hug, from anyone, particularly one that she knows. Manbong came, she doesn't know who he is, but he did told YH off and said under the line of 'what kind of a bastard would do this' I think this give her confirmation that Manbong is not evil. So she said that YH is the one who save her.

I hope this all clear up some confusions. Some relationships does not require a lot of skinships to get the point across.

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Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 8:00 AM

Adding to that the Korean word Jung Hee uses when asking YD if they can meet comfortably is also used to mean date.

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PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 7:20 AM

The problem isn't that she invited her to dinner but that they talked so happily together,like there's no breakingup or kidnapping at all.Yeah,we come back to the Junghee is a strong girl piont,maybe she was just pretending to be strong in front of Yangha.But I have to say,her pretending happiness is no less than the scene of dating with Youngdal.Recalling my memory,I find she was much happier at the private casino with Yangha,compared with the dating time with Youngdal.She seemed to be nervous with Jaejoong and acted a little unnatural.
Sorry,but that's what I feel.

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Pungpung

July 4, 2014 at 7:32 AM

You seemed pretty work up over JungHee being happy? Is she supposed to mope in front of other people? Yes I do have problem with plotholes of kdramas and joked about it, but I do see people dealing with traumas differently.

Which ways do you want her to act? To understand YoungDal? How would she if she doesn't know what's going on? Is she supposed to go into treatment? She is her own character. Her happiness and smile doesn't change from people to people, if she's happy she smiles, regardless of whoever it is. Why is she not allowed to smile in front of Yangha? Smiling in front of another man and hanging out having a dinner with him isn't dating. It's dating only if she says so, it takes two to tango. And also, when you dine with someone, or hanging out with someone you should be polite and at least smile and not keep a confused moping face.

Seriously I just don't understand this mentality of expecting the girl to only smile in front of her boyfriend only.

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PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 7:41 AM

"Seriously I just don’t understand this mentality of expecting the girl to only smile in front of her boyfriend only."

Did I mean that Junghee is only allowed to smile in front of YD?
I mean she shows no specially feeling towards him .She just doens't show chemistry with YD(Yeah,that's a mutual feeling).I mean since she was traumatized yesterday,considering she cried so hard,it's plainly strange to she is so hype.
I didn't mean to argue with you,so please don't overread my lines.

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Pungpung

July 4, 2014 at 7:54 AM

Really, I saw a lot of chemistry with them. Especially when their lines are so cheesy to each other. Especially when it's so clear in ep 17 when YD came to get his clothes. She was being cheekily chiding him and he knows.

You don't seemed to understand my post. She was traumatized, but she has her own ways of dealing with her traumatize. There is no one way to deal with it. She has her OWN ways!

I am not even arguing? I just want to know why it's JungHee fault? Why can't she deal with her traumatize by her OWN ways? Is there a set ways of how she should act to calm her traumatizion? With what you are giving me, she's not allowed to smile to another guy. Okay.

Okay I don't think you'll ever get it since your problem is that JH don't have chemistry with YD so whatever I say won't go through. Will not waste your time or mine.

PonyJay

July 4, 2014 at 8:18 AM

I have to say her way of dealing with trauma isn't so convincing and logical anyway.
If you insist,then just enjoy this couple.I'm actually very happy that people enjoy Dalhee,though I myself is completely disappointed.I've tried,but EP 18 totally turned my hope down.
If she is strong enough to deal with traumatizing,I wonder how she proccesses all the info she got until now?
I can see that she was very upset about Youngdal's revenge since Youngdal was missing waiting beside Dong-soo's bed.She asked him to give up, to think about their future.Even though she insisted that she understood Youngdal's feelings,she was kind of selfish to ask Yongdal to give up with the knowledge that YD had just found his brother who was just got stabbed by their enemy.,compared with Shin-hye's attitude towards Dong-soo.
Though she kept saying that she would stay with YD no matter what,she was upset,blaming him for not being able to accompany each other like normal CP.She was in doubt with Youngdal already.The kidnappping is a breakpoint.
Youngdal had expressed his thought about breaking up with JH.But I just wondered whether she was really listening to him at all,about the revenge,his worry,because she just showed complete ignorance.Not a single thought before or after the talk on the phone.

pogo

July 4, 2014 at 12:57 PM

I don't think Jung-hee is ignorant about what kind of life Young-dal has led, she knew his reputation, and when they fist met she's seen him get beaten up by gangsters and later sent to prison.

And as for asking Young-dal to give up on the revenge plan after finding Dong-soo.....I always read that scene as her basically suggesting that it was good he'd found his brother and that they should look towards the future instead of the past......because she's seen what his past contains and knows it's dangerous. She's didn't ask him to forget Dong-soo or ignore their relationship, just to concentrate on what he already had instead of going after dangerous people for revenge. And for what it's worth, I find her attitude more reasonable than Shin-hye's, who somehow knows everyone and everything in this drama and has no clue about professionalism or privacy.

Rafaela

July 4, 2014 at 6:04 PM

As you described Junghee and Dalhee is exactly how I feel. I have not seen chemistry with Junghee and Youngdal and glad the couple's breakup. I also felt more chemistry between Yangha-Junghee and the casino scenebetween they was cute. Even Madam Jang speaks something of YD and points to JH and YH, as said that YD lost the woman he loves; that scene was beautiful. She, Jinhee, I think be more comfortable with Siwan than with Jaejoong and I realizes that on BTS hug scene when, for me, she was so disconnected from the recording. It was just recording without much emotion.
I hope that if YD use Yoojin (Jiyeon) for revenge of YH, he can start to like her and have a real couple swapping.
Shinhye, despite the stupid things she does in relation to work, for Dongsoo it is firmer and certain of what she want, is that when Dongsoo do 2 wrong things (raid office and kidnapping) and she still supported him.
Junghee not understand YD life and think their lives will be a sea of flowers even with YD always tell her his problems.
The scene of the conversation she made while he was in the hospital was insensitive of her, because she thought only in her feelings and did not notice the sadness in his voice and ignored, even without intent, his feelings.
So for me, this couple never convinced and neither will convince and was happy for the breakup and only hope that by the end of the drama they do not come back and finish with other characters, for her Yangha and for him Yoojin.

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dashie

July 5, 2014 at 12:38 AM

I highly doubt Young Dale could love anyone else. The boy practically had a personality change because of Junghee and the once playboy went from shoving tongue down random ahjummas throatd to thinking for ten years before holding the girls hand.
If that ain't love... :)

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Rafaela

July 5, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Um ... Yes, Junghee contributed greatly to the change in attitude and life of Youngdal, he began to think of others and not just himself and show he is a good man and not just a playboy. But do not think that just means he has to stay with her at the end of the drama, there are people who are in our lives and help us a lot, but for various reasons we ended up moving away. I think it can happen to Youngdal.
As said before, this couple did not convince me and the conversation between them is boring and Junghee is trying, in this relationship, focus more on her instead of thinking of the good of both. Several times he said he has problems to solve and she did not for a minute to think or trying understand what he is saying, even with she already saw him being spanked and know of his reputation as a gangster.
I have no problem with the actress, but as the women protagonists in kdramas are treated, as being a sweet and good woman is synonymous with predictable, too sensitive and too easy to manipulate. It's not only Junghee who is like that, is many other female leads in dramas and I not sympathize with these types of characters.
I really hope Jiyeon can help Youngdal in his revenge, and also help him to forget Junghee with they finish together.

11 Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM

My guess is being abducted is way over what a tough girl can handle. I think I'm pretty tough too but I really don't know how freak out I'd be if I was duck-taped to a chair in an empty parking lot, especially after all the evening murder news. Logics and critical thinking are extremely hard when we are in a panic state.

But yeah, she treats Man Bong like he's a fluffy teddy bear who is there to comfort her.

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Ivy

July 4, 2014 at 6:41 AM

This is meant to reply @Deliane.

What's wrong with me today?

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Deliane

July 4, 2014 at 6:58 AM

Haha I was wondering if it was a reply!

I think maybe for me it was the way the scene played out, including how she suddenly was able to brush off Man Bong 5 mins later with her characteristic fierceness. For me it made the previous struggle even more fake.

BJH was very convincing though. Perhaps I wanted a little more resistance in the beginning, but accepting that she reacted the way she did I understand her later treatment of YD.

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12 lucy

July 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM

its kdramaland, what do you expect! there are and will always have tons of non-logical situation. LoL. but i still find this show is somewhat interesting.

this show its keep getting better in a slow pace. with a few more episodes left and i'm starting to wonder if there could be possibly a tragic ending for this show. well one of the brothers might get killed in the end. (though i really hope for a happy ending)

as for this episode, i find it to be more tense than before. as DalHee shippers, i get frustrated why must pushing the one you love away is the only way to protect the other? urghhh. and i find shinhye to be the most genius human being ever!! LOL. her character is important here but it just feel like 'does she has psychic power?'. shinhye is like too awesome to be true! hahahaha

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shahera5

July 4, 2014 at 7:13 AM

I am regularly pushing away the terror that Young Dal is going to be the one who ends up tragically dead in this series, either through noble idiocy or brotherly sacrifice. And that it will be the undeserving Young Dal left with the girl and the casino. What I want to have happen is that the three brothers combine forces, truly work together and kick butt - get rid of the gangsters, retire the Chaebol dad, and take over the running of the casino. Young Dal and Jun Hee get back together and live happily ever after making gorgeous babies. Yang Ha marries that other girl who actually seems like a good match for him. I saw this was billed as a melodrama, so not sure happy endings are allowed.

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shahera5

July 4, 2014 at 7:14 AM

* the undeserving Yang Ha.

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13 shahera5

July 4, 2014 at 6:54 AM

I thought Jaejoong did a fabulous job playing the scene in the car talking with the kidnappers, but I did think he could at least have sent her a text afterwards. "I'm sorry for the things I said back there. It was the only way to get you out of the situation. We must stay apart. I don't want you hurt again." I was surprised she didn't slap him when they passed each other. Then again, she was at her place of employment and he's a director so that wouldn't have been a good idea, at least if we're trying for some realism.

For the first time in the series I got irritated with all the emotional flashbacks after the kidnapping. There were just too many. I thought they were just filling time, probably due to the live shoot situation.

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Lizzz

July 4, 2014 at 8:17 PM

I'm OK with the flashback scenes, but I agree with you about Youngdal don't even trying to explain himself after the danger passed. She is his loved one after all!!

I'm so sad about their break up. :(

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14 Tara

July 4, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Thank you for the recap, GM!! Finally can write my thoughts down (although my apologies again for letting some things slip in the past recap).

When Ji-yeon caught Young-dal's eye in ep17 (even more so after finding out her connection to Yang-ha), I knew that Young-dal's "she's not my girlfriend" declaration to Frankenstein Man smelled like both a plan and a way to save Jung-hee. It's looking like both Young-dal and Ji-yeon will use each other for their own means--she will be getting back at Yang-ha for liking another woman (never scorn a woman) and he will gt back at Yang-ha for putting the moves on Jung-hee.

Although it still rankles me that Young-dal continued to keep his distance and let the misunderstanding hang (seriously, he couldn't give a simple explanation at home?? Argh) I get that he's doing if 'til he gets the threat out of the way.

But the easy flips over to Frankenstein Man and co. gives me concern about the "plans" that Young-dal has in his quest to take down Skunk Go, Yoon and Yang-ha. If they're depending on unreliable, easy to flip dudes and giving such impossible tasks to small-change wannabe gangsters (Jerry and Jang-soo) who are easily outsmarted by Yang-ha. I know it's not an easy task by any means, but seriously...for someone who's notorious for being the "trash of Sabuk," Young-dal should know better. Can't fight a 'clean' fight against scum...gotta do whatever necessary to win -- even if it means playing at their level and playing dirty. I mean, I would have thought he'd use toughie Manbong as his second-hand man to reinforce his gangster ways.

As for Jung-hee...I didn't think she would be so easily swayed into the arms of Yang-ha, the very jerk who was so trying so damn hard to force his feelings on her. Did he really seem like the knight in shining armor, saving her from distress?? -.- Of course she was in a life or death situation and Young-dal seemingly avowed her when they called to taunt him for kidnapping his girl. For someone who was so trusting and honest, I found it difficult that she'd just believe everything he said without questioning why -- didn't she think it was odd that he was saying all thee callous words to her kidnappers, claiming she wasn't anything to him...and took his words at face value?? Guess their "perfect" relationship needed some angst before the finale...since every drama otp needs that unnecessary breakup before reconciling.

And Shin-hye's ability to make the conclusion that Yang-ha = Dong-woo just from a few details is amazinggg *sarcasm* Seriously, was Yang-ha the only boy adopted from there? Despite the eye-rolling moments, I had wondered how they were gonna introduce Yang-ha possibly being Dong-woo. Thanks, plot device mover Shin-hye :/

So I am still going to watch on, despite the it holes and unnecessary angst towards the finale. I'm still itching to see how Yang-ha's reaction when he realizes Dong-soo and Young-dal are his bros...

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15 krista

July 4, 2014 at 11:29 AM

I thought this was about 3 brothers, but all anyone seems to care about is the stupid/ridiculous/unnecessary love triangle. I hope we can shift focus a bit next week, and get to the real heart of the story. :(

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16 mysterious

July 4, 2014 at 5:34 PM

I hope Young-dal and Jung-hee can set matters straight soon, because they are just too adorable for words. I never knew Jaejoong was such a good actor; his emotions are so real, so raw, it captivates you. And as far as Shin-hye goes....I am so sick of her. They make her out to be this great doctor/detective when I just want to slap her; her only purpose is to move the plot along, which she does in the most infuriating ways. How can she be so smart to figure out the connections when the brothers couldn't and yet not be smart enough to know what doctor-patient confidentiality is? I am so ready for her to go.

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17 jaejyj

July 4, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Thanks for the recap!
I did enjoy this episode than previous one. More action had taken. Youngdal made a right decision to cut off Junghee over the phone to save her, of course. And same time giving Myungjae a dilemma. I just hope Myungjae is the last big gangster to show up for this drama (same time, i'm thinking of Mrs Min's husband who suppose to be top of the top gangster). Salute to Jaejoong acting in car scene. No more no leas. It's the right emotion he should have. Yaungha reaction to Junhee crisis is just a lil' bit fuss IMO. He seems to take his save and jump her into next step. But knowing his psychological conditions, he seems to find no other way. I'm still rooting dalhee couple. Break up to make up, huh! I believe youngdal can easily handle junghee's misunderstanding by one kiss or one big hug. Not that I underestimate Junghee. But in kdrama, it can happen. Youngdal is right to push JH away since his battle is complicated. Better don't mix business with pleasure. If i ever have any slight disappointment? Yes. Shinhye finding about Yaungha's adoption history. If she keep finding of all 3 brothers past, the plot become more duller (on her part). I was hoping, since Youngdal is the one who is working closely at Daejun grp, YD should be the one who find out about YD. But, I'm not the writer. Like many other viewer, I hope Youngdal would not end up sacrificing himself (either his life or his future with JH) in the end for the sake of Yaungha to whom he had lost once. Next next episodes will be more and more interesting. Finger crossed!

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18 lintayu

July 4, 2014 at 6:56 PM

If I were Jung Hee, I would wonder how Yang Ha know her whereabouts when she's kidnapped. I would also wonder why Young Dal, who were so genuine about his feeling before then turned so cold toward her. Was it only because he's rich now? Then what the meaning of his back hug in her house then? She shouldn't have to ignore Young Dal just like that, but confront him and ask for explanation face to face, see his emotion through his eyes and hear the emotion through his voice, just see the "truth" from there.
I wonder whether Jung Hee knows the "message" that she has to avoid Young Dal for the time being, but that doesn't mean that she has to stop her feeling for him.
I'm a Dal-Hee (even Jae-Hee) shipper so this episode really breaks my heart :(

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19 dramafan

July 4, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Before Triangle started I was so excited anticipating how the brothers would discover each other. I know I should just try to enjoy the fantastic acting but the Shinhye clairvoyant role is a bit too much for me, how and why did Choi choose such a boring reveal method! (I think the original story must have been planned for more episodes and we ended up with chop suey) Makes me wanna cry, my hopes for the revealing moment with body tingling crying happy sad feelings whoosh gone by once again with words from a lacking character. It would have even been better if Dongsoo found Dongwoo first, helped the evil cute brat, betray Dongcheol (painful as may be, with us all cursing the writer) then find out later he's the brother, some drama with the story, give me the feels please. I admit the scene with Jaejoong at orphanage brought me much tears but only because his acting is just incredibly good, so why couldn't Shinhye have sent Dongsoo there with Dongcheol and have his memory at that memorable spot instead of blurting it out at a table in a cafe (yeah I know he was in hospital, so wait a few days Shinhye the plot spoiler), brotherly reminiscing I want, thanks but no thanks sh ice queen.

I'm neutral with Dalhee (seems like the storyline is for these two to be together and lots of folks like this couple but I just didn't get enough of the warm lovey dovey fuzzy excited feeling from them), though because of Dongcheol sad story, it would be nice for them to end up together, I have an inkling she'll find out the truth after much pain (a must in kdrama) type scenes like we just saw, and run back to him, I just pray that doesn't become the focus, at least give us the remaining episodes since we've gotten so little of, BROTHER focus, any interaction, fighting bonding just more please. And dear god please some new flashbacks, no more old ones that we've seen multiple times (that thousand piece puzzle which we only got a hundred pieces, can we get remainder now).

Even though I sound like a complainer, I am enjoying every episode (just with a lot of oh o.o really). Jaejoong acting is beyond awesome, LBS is so good as always, and first time seeing Siwan, what a cutie he is and I'm impressed with his acting, I've seen Jinhee in several dramas, always liked her. So I'm gonna hope for the final stretch, bases loaded in the ninth and that winning home run, leaving us all with cheers for Triangle.

Gummimochi and Headsno2, thank you both, your recaps and comments are the best! Always look forward to your point of view!!!