Marriage Not Dating: Episode 8
by LollyPip
The fake engagement is beginning to change from a little white lie meant to help Ki-tae and Jang-mi each get something they wanted, into a monster that’s growing beyond their ability to control. Jang-mi especially starts to realize that this thing is getting out of hand when it (and her suddenly enthusiastic new mother-in-law) start to take over her entire life. The line between what’s real and what’s pretend is getting dangerously blurred, and pretty soon Jang-mi and Ki-tae are going to have to either come clean and take their punishment, or admit that possibly, they don’t want this fake engagement to stay fake any longer.
EPISODE 8: “Marry me if you can”
Curtains part, and a luminous Jang-mi stands in a gorgeous frothy confection of a wedding dress, as Ki-tae’s mother smiles at her approvingly. Jang-mi thinks to herself, “This person called my name like a flower” (jang-mi means “rose”). Ki-tae’s mother says her name gently, and it echoes in Jang-mi’s mind.
A few days prior, Ki-tae’s mom deep-cleans her fridge and thinks about Ki-tae yelling that Jang-mi can’t be left alone. Grandma asks if she’s feeling all right, and Mom says that she thinks she lost and that Ki-tae is serious about marrying Jang-mi. Grandma asks what she’s going to do, and Mom supposes that the marriage will happen.
A ringing phone wakes Jang-mi and she groggily answers, only to instantly wake when she realizes that she’s answered Ki-tae’s phone and it’s his mother calling. Mom says that she must be at Ki-tae’s house since she answered his phone, and that she’s there and coming up. Now. Time to panic.
Ki-tae and Yeo-reum are spooning on the couch and awww, Little Spoon Ki-tae is smiling! Jang-mi shudders to see them snuggled up, and pokes the boys awake. Ki-tae shoves Yeo-reum to the floor and hugs himself in horror, but Yeo-reum only seems mildly surprised, thinking he was spooning with Jang-mi.
We see that last night when Ki-tae saw them on the couch together, he had carried Jang-mi to his bed. She must be a heavy sleeper because he just dumped her on the bed, but went back to cover her with the blanket. Sweet.
Yeo-reum accuses Ki-tae of being jealous, but Ki-tae insists he was just being chivalrous to let the woman use his bed. Yeo-reum fusses at him for not taking care of himself when he’s sick, but Jang-mi breaks up the bromantic moment to tell them that Ki-tae’s mother is here. There’s a mad scramble as everyone runs in circles, and finally Ki-tae shoves Yeo-reum into his bedroom just as Mom comes in. She comments that they must be living together now, which Ki-tae runs with, earning a smack from Jang-mi.
Mom notices the mess from last night, and her sharp eyes don’t miss the fact that there are three glasses on the table, which Ki-tae deftly explains is because one glass got dirty. Mom then wants to see the bedroom and luckily, Yeo-reum hears her coming in time to hide behind the bed.
Mom is here to see what furnishings the “newlyweds” will need, as she checks out the bedding and mattress. Ki-tae says that Jang-mi will handle all that, but Mom says she wants to do it for them. She returns Jang-mi’s cell phone with an apology for yesterday and says that she’s decided to stop being suspicious.
She calls Jang-mi informally by her name for the first time, and Jang-mi hears it in that weird echoing tone from the opening scene. She says, “Jang-mi, Gong Ki-tae…get married,” and suggests this weekend for the families to formally meet. Shocked faces all around.
Later, Mom and Aunt Mi-jung talk in the car, where Mom assures Mi-jung that she’s dead serious about Ki-tae and Jang-mi getting married. She says it’s not up to her to decide if they get married, but to do her best for the marriage. Mi-jung quips that her best can be scary, and Mom says the scary thing will be if they actually get married.
Jang-mi is in shock, and Yeo-reum comments that Mom’s blessing sounded more like a curse to him. Jang-mi appeals to Ki-tae to do something, worried about her parents if the families meet, and he just sighs that he understands. He doesn’t want her parents to be hurt, either.
Later Ki-tae calls Jang-mi’s mother to thank her for the samgetang, and she mentions that his mother already called her to schedule the parents’ meeting. Ki-tae says uncomfortably that he wants to talk to her about that, and she offers to meet him at his office.
Yeo-reum sits with Ki-tae and thanks him for ending things with Jang-mi now. A prickly Ki-tae asks what it has to do with him, and Yeo-reum says that now he can date her openly. Ki-tae bristles even more, and Yeo-reum seems to take pleasure in detailing all the couple-y things he plans to do with Jang-mi and watching Ki-tae get flustered. In fact, he calls Jang-mi right in front of Ki-tae to ask her to a movie this weekend, since she’ll be free by then.
When Jang-mi’s mom meets with Ki-tae, he tries valiantly to tell her the truth but can’t get the words out, dreading hurting her parents since they’ve been so good to him. Jang-mi frets at work, wondering what’s happening since her mother hasn’t called her, and Hyun-hee approaches to ask how the wedding plans are going.
Jang-mi doesn’t really know what to say, and Hyun-hee interprets her hesitation as not wanting to seem happy in front of her, since her love life isn’t going well. Jang-mi feels bad and starts to tell Hyun-hee the truth, but is interrupted by a text from her mother.
She finds Ki-tae at his office and demands to know what he did to her mom. He smirks that he didn’t do anything, and she waves her phone in his face, showing him the text from her mom saying she’s having surgery today and needs a ride home. Ki-tae says with satisfaction that he just did a teeeeny little eye surgery on her, no big deal.
Jang-mi wails that he’s doing surgery when they promised to break the fake engagement, and Ki-tae is all innocence, claiming never to have said that. He says they just have to block the family meeting. HAHA, is he planning to keep up the fake engagement to keep her from dating Yeo-reum?
Jang-mi finds her mother recovering with her eyes bandaged, and when Ki-tae takes the bandages off, he’s all compliments while Jang-mi just gapes in horror. Mom’s eyes are bruised and swollen, and Ki-ae says not to worry, she’ll be all healed in a week. He pretends dismay when Mom points out that the family meeting is this weekend.
Mom is worried that going to the meeting like this will cause Ki-tae’s family to judge her, and Jang-mi says she’ll take care of it. Mom makes her swear not to mention she had plastic surgery, but Jang-mi says she has more sense than that.
But her big plan is to tell Ki-tae’s mom that her mother had hemorrhoid surgery. Because that’s less embarrassing than plastic surgery? She asks Ki-tae’s mother to push back the date of the family meeting, and Mom agrees, though she looks suspicious.
She calls Jang-mi’s mother directly and expresses concern over her surgery, causing Jang-mi’s mom to fuss that Jang-mi wasn’t supposed to tell. She tells Ki-tae’s mom that she’s not in pain, just a little swollen and embarrassed to show people, not realizing that Ki-tae’s mother thinks she’s talking about her butt.
Ki-tae’s mom offers to come visit, assuring Jang-mi’s mom that she doesn’t need to see that part of her body. She expresses some passive-aggressive “concern” that she must have offended Jang-mi’s family somehow since they pushed back the meeting and now her visit is being rejected. She says that Jang-mi’s mom must not care about her daughter’s wedding, and it works – Jang-mi’s mom agrees to the family meeting this weekend.
Ki-tae’s entire family sits stone-faced at the restaurant, and Ki-tae runs in late and flustered, not having been notified that the meeting was still on until the last minute. Finally Jang-mi’s family arrives, and everyone frowns to see Jang-mi’s mother in a pair of enormous sunglasses.
The families exchange formalities while Jang-mi and Ki-tae have this hysterical silent conversation just with their facial expressions: “What’s going on?” “This is all your fault!” “What did I do?! This can’t be happening.” “Nothing we can do about it now!” HAHAHA.
Ki-tae’s mother has the server bring a donut pillow for Jang-mi’s mother, who’s confused but sits to be polite. Grandma gently points out that the sunglasses are making people uncomfortable, and Jang-mi’s mom honestly admits she’s had eye surgery. She asks Jang-mi what she told them, and when she realizes what kind of surgery everyone is under the impression she’s had, she jumps up and tosses the donut pillow and assures everyone that that end of her is perfectly fine. It’s hilarious how everyone giggles, even Grandma.
They all eat in awkward silence, and Jang-mi has to contain her eyerolls when Ki-tae’s dad plays the doting husband, loading his wife’s plate for her. Jang-mi’s dad just stuffs his own face, leaving her mom to futilely harpoon her own food with her chopsticks, since she can’t see well with the sunglasses on.
Ki-tae’s mom finally brings up the wedding, saying that they were hoping to have it in two months, and Ki-tae and Jang-mi throw each other panicked looks. Ki-tae’s mom tells Jang-mi’s parents not to worry, that they’ll take care of everything since Ki-tae already has a home with mostly-new things. She says that she will take Jang-mi to do everything that needs doing.
Ki-tae’s family drives home in silence until Grandma can’t hold it in anymore and dissolves in adorable giggles, which sets off Aunt Mi-jung, and even Dad grins at how ridiculously the meeting went. Buzzkill Mom says it wasn’t funny to her, and Grandma comments that Mom has a hard road in front of her. Mi-jung actually sympathizes with Jang-mi, who’s about to endure a level of suffering she’s never known before.
Jang-mi’s family gets home and her parents immediately start fighting over whether it’s a good idea to let Ki-tae’s mother pay for everything. They accuse each other of being rude and unmannerly, and Jang-mi goes to her room for some peace. She gets a text from Ki-tae asking her to come outside, and he shyly gives her a gift for her parents. Awww.
Ki-tae asks if her family is okay (Jang-mi: “It would be weird if it were okay.”) and Ki-tae apologizes. He offers to take care of her mother’s wrinkles forever, which lightens the mood. But then Jang-mi gets a call from Ki-tae’s mother, whose voice echoes in that eerie way again when she says Jang-mi’s name.
The next day, Jang-mi and Ki-tae’s mother go shopping for bedding, Jang-mi looking like she’d rather be getting a root canal right now. Her attempts to refuse Mom’s generosity are met with insistence that she just wants to do something nice for them, so she’s forced to accept.
Pretty soon, Jang-mi can’t turn around (or even go to the bathroom!) without Mom calling her in that overly sweet echoing voice, and finds herself deftly manipulated into buying a new bed and a television as wedding gifts for Ki-tae’s family members. Jang-mi thinks to herself that when Ki-tae’s mother says her name in that tone, she’s compelled to obey.
It’s the last straw though, when Jang-mi finds herself at the doctor’s office with her feet up in stirrups. WHAT. She flounces out to the waiting room (still in the drape, hee) to protest her loss of dignity. Mom sighs that Jang-mi’s mother never brought her to the gynecologist, and lays out the plan: She’s to have a child as soon as possible after the wedding, then two more after that, all in the next five years. Jang-mi protests again, but Mom just insults her dedication to the family and sails out with a smile.
Yeo-reum waits at a restaurant for Jang-mi, but she’s had her own arguments used against her and been dragged to an acupuncturist. Yeo-reum tries to reach her for hours, but she’s not allowed to answer her phone, and he eventually has to give up his table to other customers. By the time she breaks free and joins him, the restaurant is closed, but he cheerily holds up a bag of takeout with a smile.
They head to Ki-tae’s place to eat, where Jang-mi is confronted about all the furniture and household items that have been delivered. She despairs that his mother must have magical powers, because by the time she realizes what’s happening, she’s agreed to everything she wants. She asks for him to pay her back for the wedding gifts she bought, and a stunned Ki-tae tells Yeo-reum that she must want to marry him for real.
Good-natured Yeo-reum invites Ki-tae to eat with them, but it backfires on him when Ki-tae and Jang-mi bond while planning how to deal with his mother. When Ki-tae steps away, Yeo-reum expresses his jealousy and they plan a date for the next day, joking that they’ll run away together. It’s Ki-tae’s turn to be jealous when he comes back and the two lovebirds are all smiles.
The next morning, Yeo-reum packs a picnic with food from the restaurant, and when the chef threatens to tell Hoon-dong, he just says that fine, then he’ll just tell him about what the chef’s been taking. Oh and he’s taking a few days off. Cheeky.
Jang-mi meets Yeo-reum on her bike, but Ki-tae is right there to fuss at her for dating in broad daylight when she’s supposed to be engaged to him. Yeo-reum hands off the picnic and goes to get his bike, and Ki-tae takes his chance – he pretends to see his mother and hops on Jang-mi’s bike, yells at her to get on, and flees. HAHA, did he just hijack their picnic? Poor Yeo-reum can’t even follow, because Hoon-dong grabs him to talk.
Hoon-dong confronts Yeo-reum about Jang-mi, asking how long he’s going to keep confusing her. Yeo-reum asks if he still has feelings for Jang-mi, but Hoon-dong says he’s mostly worried about his best friend. Yeo-reum smiles that Hoon-dong is the only one who doesn’t know what’s going on, and tells him to go talk to Ki-tae. Hoon-dong thinks he’s trying to horn in on his friendship with Ki-tae as well, and Yeo-reum just laughs.
Ki-tae bikes as far as he can, Jang-mi complaining the whole time, until he finally runs out of steam on a steep hill. They end up in a park, and she gripes at him that her personal life has been ruined because of him, and now he’s sabotaging her real love life. He latches onto this – did Yeo-reum ask her to officially date? She says love isn’t childish like that, and Ki-tae asks if they’ve kissed.
She admits that they have, and Ki-tae accuses her of being easy for moving so fast. Jang-mi gets fed up with being criticized by the guy she’s doing all this for, tells him that she knows his mother isn’t at the restaurant, and takes the bike and leaves him there. Serves him right.
Only, when Jang-mi arrives back at the restaurant, there’s Mom waiting for her. She asks after Ki-tae, who’s at the gym ignoring his phone. Mom takes Jang-mi to a wedding dress boutique, and Jang-mi can’t help but be swept away by the beautiful gowns. Mom has already chosen a gown and literally shoves Jang-mi to the dressing room.
Jang-mi gets all calf-eyed when she tries the dress on, and has to remind herself that no matter how gorgeous the dress is, she has to stay sharp. She tells Mom that it’s boring and finds a short-short wedding dress, saying she wants to show off her great legs. She stands up to Mom’s insistence that the dress is inappropriate, and they have a stare-off.
Se-ah finds Ki-tae at the gym and apologizes for trying to trick him, but he refuses to even look at her. Se-ah says that he seems confused about who loves him and who’s fake, which finally gets his attention. She says that she wants to make up and invites him on a trip to the beach, once again pushing just that one step too far. Ki-tae just says that he hates crowds and leaves, accidentally leaving his phone behind.
Jang-mi tries on the skimpy dress, figuring that if she insists, Ki-tae’s mom will drop the whole wedding business. But she’s foiled again when she strikes a hilarious pose in the dress, but falters when she sees that Ki-tae’s mother called her mom to shop for wedding dresses with them. The moms compliment Jang-mi’s natural beauty, but Ki-tae’s mom ruins it by saying that her taste is “kitschy.”
Jang-mi’s mom takes offense at Ki-tae’s mother’s comments that Jang-mi has no taste because she’s never had nice things, but holds her tongue when she offers to make sure Jang-mi has nice things from now on. She gets Jang-mi’s mom on her side by offering to buy the nicest name-brand wedding dress. You know, I hate how manipulative this lady is, but I have to give her props for being good at it.
Jang-mi tries calling Ki-tae again for a rescue, and Se-ah finds his phone where he left it at the gym. She answers, and Jang-mi is desperate enough to tell her where she is. Next Yeo-reum texts Jang-mi to remind her that they were supposed to run away together. When he tracks her phone to the dress shop, he figures Ki-tae’s mom got hold of her again.
Se-ah meets Ki-tae at his car, returning his phone and telling him that Jang-mi needs him, offering to take him to where she is. Ki-tae looks extremely wary, but Se-ah assures him that she wants to be on his side and holds out the memory card with the photos of Jang-mi and Yeo-reum.
Jang-mi tries on another fancy wedding dress, but Ki-tae’s mother just says she’s chubbier than she thought and shouldn’t wear revealing dresses. A more demure dress has the mothers worrying over the high price tag. Jang-mi thinks to herself that she had fantasies about her wedding gown like any other girl — she wouldn’t have cared if it were a simple dress, but only wanted to stand in it in front of her love and be told she’s pretty.
Another dress has the mothers in sync now, and Ki-tae’s mom tells her to suck in her tummy, tilt her chin down, criticizing her posture and attitude without a word about how absolutely stunning she looks in the beautiful gown. Every time Ki-tae’s mother says her name in that sickeningly sweet tone, Jang-mi gets closer to breaking, until finally she can’t take it anymore and runs. The triumphant smirk on Ki-tae’s mom’s face is appalling.
Jang-mi flees out into the street just as Ki-tae and Se-ah arrive at the dress shop. Ki-tae finds himself unexpectedly face-to-face with Jang-mi looking like an absolute bridal vision, and he’s frozen to the spot, unable to move or speak. If he hasn’t fallen for Jang-mi yet, he’s a goner now.
Jang-mi isn’t as affected, as she stares at Ki-tae with an expression that both accuses him of getting her into this mess, and pleads with him for help. Se-ah gets out of the car and sees the smitten expression on Ki-tae’s face, just as Yeo-reum drives up (having “borrowed” Hoon-dong’s car). Behind Jang-mi, the mothers come out and call to her.
Ki-tae finally breaks out of his stricken state and tells Jang-mi, “Wait. I’ll come to you,” but it’s not enough. She’s had all she can handle being torn between him and his mother – she gets in the car with Yeo-reum and they speed away. Jang-mi sits in stone-faced silence until a simple, “You look pretty,” from Yeo-reum sends her over the edge and into great, heaving sobs. It’s the right words, but from the wrong person, and she cries out her frustration and pain as Yeo-reum drives her away.
Ki-tae is left watching her escape with another man, maybe only now realizing how much he cares about Jang-mi, and how much he’s allowed her to be hurt.
COMMENTS
Oh, that ending scene hurt so good. I’ve been waiting for us to get to this point, where Jang-mi can’t take it anymore and finally breaks. I think it’s high time that everyone, including Jang-mi herself, realizes that she’s been trying so hard to please everyone else, with really nothing in it for herself, that it’s starting to hurt her deeply.
Jang-mi’s greatest strength, but also her greatest weakness, is her willingness to sacrifice her own wants to make others happy. She’s a truly good person who wants people to be happy, but she hasn’t yet matured enough to figure out that there’s a limit — if she doesn’t take care of herself too, she won’t be able to do for others. It’s time for her to stand up and say, “This is what I need, and this is what I want, and those things are important too.” And she’s fully capable of doing that. Her problem isn’t that she lacks a spine — far from it — it’s that she constantly chooses to put the needs of others before her own. She’s making the choice, but she’s going to have to figure out that there are other acceptable choices.
And nobody needs for her to do that more than Ki-tae. Yes, he’s starting to care for her, and I believe he’s already more than halfway in love with her. But he doesn’t respect her, and no wonder, because she doesn’t respect herself. While I believe that people deserve respect no matter what, I can see why a person like Ki-tae would have a hard time respecting a girl who constantly acts like a doormat to get people to like her. It’s probably even harder for him because he does know she’s capable of standing up for herself…after all, she does it with him all the time.
But it’s going to take some work on Jang-mi’s part, because watching her lie down and get stepped on time and again by others, is stopping Ki-tae from truly respecting her. And you can tell that he wants to, because he calls her out on it every single time, getting more and more frustrated when she keeps letting it happen. I think that once Jang-mi does start to defend herself and her needs, Ki-tae’s respect will snap right into place, because he wants to respect her, and for her to respect herself, so badly.
And she’s going to have to start with his mom. Ugh, Mom. Up until this episode I had a lot of compassion for her, because she really is living a tough life. Her husband steps out on her, her son doesn’t want anything to do with her, and she’s built such a thick cocoon of self-preservation that she barely has any personality of her own left. I’ve mentioned before that I think she and Jang-mi actually have a lot in common, in that they both sacrifice their own needs for their loved ones, but they just express it in such wildly different ways. I had hope that this would become a point on which they could bond, but now Mom is just getting worse and becoming more controlling and manipulative, and it’s driving me batty. I’m trying to trust that the show has a higher purpose for her than just the typical k-drama mother-in-law that tries to break apart the lovers but ends up pushing them together. But I’m seeing fewer of those hidden redeeming qualities and more of the sneering meanie, and I’m losing faith in her. I hope I’m wrong.
That said, I still think Ki-tae’s mom is the key to Jang-mi and Ki-tae finding each other, though not in the typical k-drama way. Ki-tae’s entire reason for this fake engagement is to thwart his mother’s desire to control his marriage, and by extension his entire life. If Jang-mi continues to go along with Mom’s plans in the name of peace, he’s going to feel more and more threatened that he’s going to actually be forced to marry her and be stuck with an extension of his mother. Jang-mi is going to have to stand up to Mom, and prove that she can’t be controlled or manipulated, in order for Ki-tae to find that much-needed respect for her and realize that he might actually want to marry her. She’s got to be strong and find her self-respect, so that Ki-tae can see that she’s capable of being a partner who is fully on his side, and who can get along with his mother but not cave in to her.
These two have a looong way to go. But I have faith they can do it.
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51 Kim Yoonmi
July 28, 2014 at 8:13 AM
I understood Se Ah a lot better from the one line she said to Gi Tae and his response back. I kinda feel a pang of sympathy for her and I can understand why she is doing what she is doing, though I don't agree with her actions and how it manifests.
She said, "Want to go to the beach?"
Gi Tae responded with how she should know how he hates people.
That one throw away line with the whole baby thing makes me think that she wants his attention like the school yard bully. While she was with him, he constantly made her feel lonely. She also wanted him to be present, but he never was, which distressed her.
She said she was alright when she wasn't. That she was OK being alone, but she wasn't. She is using the baby to try to tell him he's wrong about her, but too proud to say it directly. She tells him about the beach to try to show him he's wrong, but he misses it. She wants him to notice her, to change who he is, but too proud to spell it out for him and he's a bit too self-involved to see that he made her feel lonely like his father did to his mother.
She's been dropping hints like crazy to him, that he was wrong about the break up. She really did want to be with him. But her pride always wins out. She never gets down and dirty with her emotions.
For example, when Jang Mi calls her, I think it was genuine when she said that she thought it might be misconstrued and that she was trying to truly help (which is a subversion from the usual). Because she's put her pride before her emotions. But Jang Mi is the opposite.
I bet what I said will pan out further. Se Ah shows another side to adult relationships--which I like.. being physically with someone doesn't mean they are emotionally or spiritually there. This would give her plenty of reason to try to do the house thing. That's her trying to get him to respond in any way to her after he's being so distant.
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jomo143
July 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM
Another way SA has tried to communicate her very obvious feelings - but failed again without words - was when she brought in the destruction crew at his apartment.
"Mr. Gong Ki-tai, tear down those walls." Hello! He prolly kept her out of a lot of things the whole time they were "together." We know the marriage idea must have come from their parents not him. How relieved must he have been to have a concrete reason to break up. She touched something sacred of his. Even his mother couldn't block the strength and momentum of his anger back then.
The fable of the wind and the sun competing to see which of them could remove a man's coat applies here.
JM's warmth and constancy will prove more effective in the long run at getting to KT and having him remove his coat of armor on his own. While SE's violent and blustery force just gets him to hold the coat closed even more tightly.
When KT's rabid need to be alone to protect himself disappears, he won't care anymore who breaches his apartment walls. Because of JM, he has already let in two people he NEVER would have before he met her. LOL.
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Because of Reasons
July 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM
How relieved must he have been to have a concrete reason to break up.
I didn't get that impression at all from the flashback they showed. I got the feeling that Gi Tae genuinely cared for Se Ah (and that the fact that he did love and was close to her at some point in the past is what keeps him from totally cutting ties with her in the present). I think that the whole thing with them starting their married life in a place where he had been happy once was something very special and significant for him. He was opening up to share his happy place with her, he was opening up to share his past with her. For him that was a big deal.
And then not only did she make plans, without telling him, to knock holes in the walls of the home that had great sentimental value for him, and that he thought could be their cozy happy place together, she also did private investigations into his past, which robbed him of the opportunity to open himself up to her on his own terms. I think he felt tremendously hurt, disappointed and betrayed by that. It was then that he fully realized that Se Ah was just as scheming and calculating as his mother, and Se Ah's casual, almost amused, reaction didn't help matters at all (I found her actions and behaviour in that scene appalling, even more than her plot to extort Ci Tae's sperm).
If I recall correctly, despite his angry reaction that wasn't the conclusive end of their engagement. That happened later at a bar or something, which suggests to me that he took the time to think seriously about, and possibly reconsider, the major decision he was making. If he had been looking for any excuse to break up, he wouldn't have needed to give it any thought. He seemed genuinely sad about breaking it off, and there is a certain undercurrent in his present day interactions with Se Ah that convinces me that he did love her, but doesn't think that she ever really loved him.
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jomo143
July 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM
I agree that he did love her, so her betrayal was that much more painful
But it was the bar conversation that made me think he was using that argument as the reason, when actually he wasn't ready to open up to marriage in the first place. He was definitely projecting HIS desire to be alone onto her and trying to get her to agree that SHE wanted to be alone, too, to make himself feel better about the break-up.
If she had handled that situation differently, he may have found another reason. Who knows?
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jusash
July 28, 2014 at 3:03 PM
>I didn’t get that impression at all from the flashback they showed. I got the feeling that Gi Tae genuinely cared for Se Ah (and that the fact that he did love and was close to her at some point in the past is what keeps him from totally cutting ties with her in the present). I think that the whole thing with them starting their married life in a place where he had been happy once was something very special and significant for him. He was opening up to share his happy place with her, he was opening up to share his past with her. For him that was a big deal.
Yes, ditto the way I see it.
For him it was a big deal, even opening up to share his thoughts was a huge progression.
And even more significant was - Se-Ah was that rare person invited to share that precious 'meaningful' space, but because she handled ng she completely missed the boat with her carit wroeless insensitivity.
(though I also happen to think it seems unfair it's all about him too)
They're also pretty much alike in upbringing, which doesn't help. All the civilized veneers and polite graceful reactions masking the real thoughts = it eventually brought it all home to him, how it would be like reenacting once again life with mom. Ironic, because he's so also like Se-Ah in many ways ... been conditioned and groomed to the culture.
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Kim Yoonmi
July 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM
True, true. Though I also think this last episode drew parallels between him and Se Ah as well with the whole biking incident as well.
But still, it must have been tough for her from what's been written. I have no doubts of it. I also think Jang Mi demands a straight forward approach Gi Tae doesn't know how to do yet, and in that, he and Se Ah are alike, right?
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52 Because of Reasons
July 28, 2014 at 8:16 AM
If the guy playing Yeo Reum was a better actor, I would have a serious case of second lead syndrome at this point in the story. As much as I enjoy Gi Tae as a character, with things as they stand, I would have no objection to JM-YR being the final pairing (with some JM-YR-GT OT3 scenes thrown in for good measure) because I think someone like Yeo Reum would be good for Jang Mi right now.
I keep wishing that Jung Jin Woon could bring just a smidgen more... something to his portrayal of Yeo Reum. I get that the character is supposed to be enigmatic and cool, but I feel like the actor isn't getting it quite right; there's a certain nuance that's missing. Every time I watch a scene with Yeo Reum in it, I find myself imagining what it could have been like with a better actor in the role.
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alcoholicbubbletea
July 28, 2014 at 8:34 AM
yes! i keep imagining someone like yoo yeon seok playing yeorum! (again, yeo rum keeps reminding me of chilbong)... i'd go crazy over him. jin woon just doesnt seem to act the part well.
but hes still a wonderful sight to see hahaha!
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lessonlearn
July 28, 2014 at 12:02 PM
haha..i think thats the concensus..he seems more sincere in his scenes with kt..lol but man can the guy not act..i rather not have a better 2nd lead then we might have another chillbong/oppa clash..
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53 Miho
July 28, 2014 at 8:34 AM
I think i should just stop following these recaps. There's no doubt you're doing a very good job. But everytime i see Yeoreum, i feel wronged. It should have been kitae in that place. I normally like second leads but i totally hate this. It's totally wrong wrong wrong.
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54 Adal
July 28, 2014 at 9:49 AM
BTW - Did Ki Tae's mom become a bitch because her husband was having a long term affair or did he start having an affair when he realized he was married to a witch and couldn't get along with her?
I wish the show would delve a little into this "chicken or the egg - which comes first scenario", it would help us better understand Ki Tae's mom's motivations.
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Kim Yoonmi
July 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM
The egg always wins.
Before a chicken was a chicken it was a jungle fowl. Even if you are Christian, the egg came first. Humans created the chicken by domestic breeding.
Beyond that, I think it's a bit of both at this point. She's too proud to be honest about her feelings. In the one scene he was with his girlfriend, she was a little needy and straight forward. His wife is cold.
But I think at some point her pride got in the way, which closed the emotional support he wanted, which caused the affair, which made her colder, which made him want to have an extended affair, which caused her to try to control her son, which made the father even more distant than before. Her rpide then fed the problem because she found out about the affair and still did not get upset. But it's clear, he, too, wants to connect because he tries to grab her hand and she pushes it away. He also doesn't seem to be that into his girlfriend.
In another words, more themes about loneliness and connection in that relationship. I suspect something along that line. Plus this show is arguing to some point that a relationship takes two people and no single person is at fault. It's been arguing that the perspective on the outside isn't want it is on the inside from episode 1, through the framing.
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55 staurofila
July 28, 2014 at 11:04 AM
Even if Ki Tae's mom is behaving like a manipulative witch, I still like her, because it seems there's much more behind her character; besides that, comparing her to most MILs that complain that they have "sacrificed" themselves for the family in order to get their ways, this is a mother who is ACTUALLY working as a slave and putting up with everything and everyone at home because she thinks that is her obligation. In fact, I guess she thinks that objecting his son's fake marriage -because she is certain that it is fake! or at least she was- is part of her duties. And well, you know, being a housewife myself, I conmiserate her, because she is the first RICH mother that I have seen in dramaland that cleans, irons and cook herself!
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Adal
July 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM
Yeah, but I see her "working as a slave" as another manipulative tool she uses. The ' "woe is me", I'm working hard, see my scrub the floor and all kinds of crap doesn't earn any points with me at all'!
They are wealthy enough to afford a maid for goodness sakes! She's the one who WANTS to go on her knees scrubbing so she can make the rest of the family feel guilty.
Jang mi hit the nail on the head, there was nothing stopping her from asking for help from other members of the family when cooking the memorial meal, but she wanted to do it ALONE and to use it to punish Jang mi. After all in "Bride of the Century", a bunch of housemaids and family members sat together and helped each other out when preparing the memorial meal.
I won't go far as to call her a sadist, but in this episode, she's pretty close to one.
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Kim Yoonmi
July 28, 2014 at 1:31 PM
I disagree it's for pity. I think it's for a sense of control. She can't control her son. She can't control her husband, she doesn't have much else in life. The one thing she can control is the house. Even the women her husband is having an affair with says so on their movie date. She needs to control the household. It's the only thing she *can* control.
She never asks for pity, though. She's too disconnected from her emotions for that. She's numbed her emotions with trying to get a sense of false control and everyone else around her enabled her to do that because they pity her.
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jusash
July 28, 2014 at 3:15 PM
I don't see all her scrubbing and cooking as "woe is me" too.
Housekeeping, cooking, scrubbing and cleaning is something she does well, and she gets lauded with praise and validation for her cooking, being a wine connoiseir etc.
In a life that she has no control/lost control over/is spiralling out of control ... mom has plunged herself into this as her outlet for stability perhaps
(When life gets too challenging and overwhelming sometimes, doing laundry is therapeutic - even psychologists agree. It is akin to that little corner of your life where you can momentarily create some MANAGEABLE order out of chaos).
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lessonlearn
July 28, 2014 at 7:08 PM
I really dont see her unable to control her husband..it seems like he has free range but only to a certain extent..he can date her but make sure he doesnt get caught and he still has to come around as the great and faithful husband..seems like she doesnt care much for her husband either so im thinking that there marriage has been over for years but with kdrama land..they stay together to look good in front of potential suitors for their son..i feel once kt is marry off then it would be done with the wife and husband..heck i might go as far to say that she is ruining his son marriage jus to keep the husband around..lol but thats pretty wild idea
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56 Savannah
July 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM
I hope somebody sees this...
Does anyone know the name of the song that was played at the end of this episode? Basically when Jang-Mi runs away!
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Kim Yoonmi
July 28, 2014 at 8:15 PM
Should be on the OST and usually you can find the details of that on soompi.com.
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57 barbjean
July 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM
I am liking this show. But, have to way in on the relationship of the main couple. With that MIL being like that, they will not be able to enjoy being a couple unless they run far, far away. He may be attracted to her and want to protect her and all that and she may even find him attractive but the obstacle of family and trying to outwit family is going to have to be removed. Or, they'll have to move to another country.
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58 jam
July 28, 2014 at 10:31 PM
i am SO glad i started this series. our OTP are great actors!!!! i loveeee how natural their funny reactions are, but when they're serious, it changes just like that. their chemistry is really awesome too. as for jinwoon + sunhwa, their actings still seem one dimensional..but there's always room for improvement :) this episode tore my heart to pieces as well, but i know it's for the best for both characters to grow. cant wait to see what unfolds this weekend!!! thanks for the recap as always.
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59 Kdramawatcher
July 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM
Can I just begin by saying how I love how this drama is handling its second lead? For once, the second lead has a chance at the girl. For once, he isn't the stereotypical "nice guy" but he's, in fact, a realistic man. I love how hot and cold his attitude is, because, be honest, if he were the main lead we would condone that behavior because we're so used to seeing that. It's refreshing. I'm tired of seeing asian dramas where the second lead isn't flawed and is this perfect guy for the main girl. I still have war flashbacks at how the second lead was handled in Flower Boy Ramyun Shop. I mean, come on. It was so obvious who she should've chosen but that's a discussion for another trend.
Also, can I also talk about how wonderfully Jang-Mi's character is written? I get so much second-hand embarrassment for her and yet I'm yelling "FIGHTING" in her corner whenever Ki-Tae's mom tries to get in between the couple.
Ki-Tae is also another interesting character. At first, I thought he would be that typical asshole spoiled rich boy but he is not. In fact, I find him the most interesting in the show. His dynamic with Jang-Mi is fascinating: how he, who hates the thought of someone coming into his space, doesn't bat an eye anymore whenever she pays him a late night visit.
I'm excited for new episodes. I wonder how exactly things will play out for the next 12 episodes. I'm expecting lots of tears.
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60 Pyromaniac
July 29, 2014 at 8:19 PM
preview for ep 9 up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnbgHaBsAtk&feature=youtu.be
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harmonyfb
July 29, 2014 at 10:05 PM
GAH. Why isn't it Friday yet?
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adekmanja
July 30, 2014 at 4:02 PM
@Pyromaniac - thanks for sharing! from this I found so many other clips that helps to wait till Friday! he he!!
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Pyromaniac
July 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM
I find it helps deal with the depression and withdrawal symptoms.. a little dose every minute...
not sure what I am going to do when the drama finishes.. oh wait.. Marriage Not Dating marathon~~!
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61 adekmanja
July 30, 2014 at 3:59 PM
I'm only adding this comment after reading such amazing, critical, funny, touching... views and comments from so many of you! I usually watch dramas that are already completed hence easier to jump queue should there be any scene that kills your attention. I can't believe that I am now really deep into this drama now that I had started following from day 1 it was on air!! Now that I found this blog, ahaaa! I am exhilarated!
all comments by jomo (are you also on koalaplayground blog?), harmonyfb, Gidget, Lessonlearn, tapioca pearl, because of reason and so many of you, yunno what? your views only made me feel that I have missed so many intimate close up scenes in between. One scene leading to another is kind of catchy and a lot of "what is written in between the lines", what can be interpreted metaphorically... oh my.... simply amazing! for the very first time, I salute the skill of the scriptwriter of the dramaland!
Just like many of you, now Friday seemed so long and can't wait what's next yet to be shared with us :)
enjoy watching! and please do the re-cap ASAP !!
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62 Pyromaniac
August 1, 2014 at 2:23 PM
Ep 9 is out and I am a happy chappy. Just need to wait for English subs. Or maybe I should learn Korean.
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harmonyfb
August 1, 2014 at 7:50 PM
So...episode 9.
Ouch. Right in the fangirl! (When will I learn my lesson about fixating on the second male lead? When?)
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